WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:07.799 Well, welcome back. I'm joining us now as our guest Matt Troella, 2 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:11.640 And of course I've interviewed him several times in this excellent book, The Doctor 3 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:17.920 and the Lesser Magistrate, talking about the history secular and church history, about 4 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:22.519 how do we, you know, how should government be structured? And you 5 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:26.440 know, what do we do? Do we just blindly follow the leader? 6 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:30.399 Do we just do whatever Hitler tells us? Or do we exercise some kind 7 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:36.119 of moral responsibility? And what we do? And so when I saw this 8 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:42.759 story a teen arrested while preaching the gospel during a drag Queen event, I 9 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:45.399 saw that he was in Wisconsin. I thought, oh, I wonder if 10 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:49.399 that's Matt and I looked, and sure enough it was someone from his church. 11 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:52.320 So I wanted to get Matt on talk about that and talk about The 12 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:56.399 Doctor and the Lesser Magistrate, because so many times we talked about somebody at 13 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:02.079 the local level who stands in the gap against a corrupt upper official, right 14 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:04.519 who is you know, maybe a state official, maybe a federal official or 15 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:07.200 something like that. But what do we do with the corruption that's there? 16 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:08.840 And that's what people always say, Well, you know, we got an 17 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:11.439 awful sheriff in our area. And that's what I've said that you see in 18 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:15.159 twenty twenty could see what happened. They could see that, you know, 19 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:19.680 the depending on who the local officials were, that made all the difference in 20 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:23.480 the world. And I said, that's why we've got to focus more on 21 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:26.519 what is happening in our community than what is happening in the district of Columbia. 22 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:30.519 That's the more important thing. These people can stand in the gap, 23 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:34.840 but they can also be really bad if they are there. So joining us 24 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:38.359 now, as Matteill is great to talk to you again, Matt. Yeah, 25 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:40.959 good to be with you, David. And I love that you mentioned 26 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:45.319 the movie True Grit. It's a favorite here at the Chuola Home. Yeah, 27 00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:48.040 nomint all, it's one of my favorites. I especially like the remake. 28 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:51.280 I thought it was even better than the one with John Wayne but oh 29 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:57.439 absolutely yeah. But yeah, let's talk about this because you got somebody there 30 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.239 in your church, a teenager, nineteen year years old, and Marcus Schroeder, 31 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:06.239 this is a guy with true grit, absolutely has true grit. He 32 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:09.280 stood up to these people and let me just start before we start talking about 33 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.719 it, just so people can see this. I've got video of his arrest, 34 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.919 and they can get an idea of what happened and how he reacted because 35 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:21.360 they're charging him, amongst other things, with resisting arrest. And if you 36 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:25.120 see this video and now that you see that he's not resisting arrest one word. 37 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:29.800 Even in this, you still love your neighbor as yourself. But if 38 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:35.599 you bought and devour one another, see where or less you be consumed by 39 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:39.039 one another? Hey, what are you doing? What are you doing? 40 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:46.159 What is the problem? You hear that feedback here the police officer grabbed this 41 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:51.360 is the same one that we ever grabbed his mic And that's why you heard 42 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:54.879 the feedback. They say we can, we can? They say we can 43 00:02:54.919 --> 00:03:04.159 speak out here in the sidewalk freely. Nobody told us that there's often there's 44 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:08.039 no amplification. Are you guys reacting like thugs? Man there, straight up 45 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:12.719 thugs. Hey, you're you're you're taking away money. He has every right 46 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:16.319 to be out here engaging in speech. He has every right to be out 47 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:22.039 here engaging in speech. Okay, so you get the idea of what is 48 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:23.479 going on, Matt, tell us a little bit more about it from your 49 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:30.120 perspective. Sure, well, as you know. Yeah, the Sodomites control 50 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:35.479 like every major city in America with their evil influence. And so now they've 51 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:38.479 gone into the hill and dale. They've gone out to the villages, the 52 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:44.520 towns. They're pushing this filth everywhere. Vector's NGOs, non government organizations and 53 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:50.800 just private organizations who come courting these villages and towns with money and so and 54 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:55.240 lawyers and so. Most of these officials in these small towns and villages cave 55 00:03:55.319 --> 00:04:00.759 in, either because they want the money or because they're in timidated by the 56 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:05.560 lawyers. And they know that wicked people now have the force of law behind 57 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:09.520 them. Because we live in a nation we're good is now evil, and 58 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:14.919 evil is now good. So I run into people all the time who say, 59 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:16.240 look what they're doing in my town. I tell him, you must 60 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:20.839 confront it. If you don't confront it, if you listen to your average 61 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:25.120 churchmen who says, oh, no, we should just be liked and go 62 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:29.879 along and blah blah blah, you won't even recognize your community five years from 63 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:34.639 now because this evil is so pervasive. So Watertown's one of these small communities. 64 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:39.199 They did it for the first time last year. I was out there 65 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:43.759 with other people last year, speaking up, ministering, speaking to those attending, 66 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:47.959 rebuking the officials. This year, we had a much larger crowd. 67 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.040 They had more people, about one hundred and seventy five, but we had 68 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:57.319 about one hundred Christians out there, which was awesome to see. And the 69 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:00.959 police made it clear early on who they are going to aid in a bet, 70 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:02.360 and they made it clear they were going to aid in a bet the 71 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:08.839 wicked people. Understand, David, we have a statute ninety eighth five and 72 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:14.279 ninety eight eleven here in Wisconsin, which makes it clear that the sexualizing of 73 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:18.920 children in a public venue is a crime. Yeah, and so they could 74 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:25.639 have arrested these drag queens who are up on this stage gyrating around dressed completely 75 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:33.720 inappropriately, disgustingly. And here's the adults and the children giving them dollar bills 76 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:38.399 as they danced through the crowd like they're at some strip club or something. 77 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:41.800 Exactly exactly what it is. It's a recreation of that, except they do 78 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:45.560 it with homosexual men instead of with women. You know, that kind of 79 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.879 stuff has always been prohibited for children, and it's something that you know, 80 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:53.879 has to be kept off of the streets as well. But now it's okay 81 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:58.399 because it's the LGBT people who are doing it. It's amazing, that's right, 82 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:02.560 that's right. And so we're out there and the police don't arrest them. 83 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:06.720 Instead, what the police decided to do is come and arrest some of 84 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:13.879 the Christians. So there was this park called Riverside Park in Watertown, and 85 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:15.800 the police said, if you go inside the fenced area. Because I've been 86 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:19.519 to these rodeo shows before, right, it's my first time out on the 87 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:24.279 street. And when you're in a park, it's kind of a quasi public 88 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:26.879 thing. When someone has a permit to use it, you can still be 89 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:30.040 there as long as you aren't disrupting anyone. You can hold a sign, 90 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:32.560 you can talk with people. You're not going to go up on stage and 91 00:06:32.600 --> 00:06:36.800 disrupt thing or stand up and disrupt. They'll take you out. Well, 92 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:41.920 they arrested one woman from our church simply because she was inside the fenced area 93 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:46.519 holding a sign. They charged her with an ordinance for planting a sign. 94 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.160 I looked, I said, first thing to do. She was a little 95 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:53.959 concerned. It said, the first thing you do is look up the ordinance 96 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:57.120 itself. I looked it up, and I'm like, this ordinance doesn't even 97 00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:00.519 apply to you. This is where like if someone attaches some thing to a 98 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:05.319 telephone pole, or if they plant the sign in the ground, you are 99 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:10.519 holding your sign. When you're holding your sign, that's First Amendment activity that 100 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:14.680 men fought, bled and died for us to possess. So I told her, 101 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:17.079 I said, you're in fine shape regarding this. In fact, we 102 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:21.040 had the same thing happened down at the death camps the abortion clinics years ago 103 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:26.759 in Milwaukee, and we won at the appellate level challenging the police for arresting 104 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:33.680 us for holding signs outside the abortion clinic. It was ridiculous. So they 105 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:40.639 also arrested a couple of young people and one of them happened to be my 106 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:45.920 sixteen year old daughter. And my sixteen year old daughter was taken into the 107 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:53.959 command post there's the venue itself. Did the handcuff. They did not handcuff. 108 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:58.399 They had a cop on each side with their arms. They said you 109 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:03.319 are under arrest, and they took her into the command post that they had 110 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:09.680 there. So they arrested another young man, also one of my son in 111 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:13.639 laws, and took him into the same command post. They let him go 112 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:18.560 with the citation that said you can't be in a park anywhere in any Watertown's 113 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:24.360 parks for the next seven days. And I looked up the statute their ordinance 114 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:28.279 and yeah, the city gave them authority to do that, so fine. 115 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.480 They ended up letting my daughter just go about thirty minutes later. But while 116 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:37.240 we were there, there was like ten police officers lined up outside the command 117 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:43.639 post and some Christians were engaging them. So I took the opportunity at that 118 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.360 point while my daughter was in there, to engage the police and the doctrine 119 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:52.320 of the Lesser Magistrate, and went into a little history and simply explained to 120 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:58.679 them that according to Romans thirteen, their duty is to punish evil and reward 121 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:03.519 the good, and that they've turned it all on their head and they have 122 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:09.480 instead decided to punish those who are good and reward the evil. It was 123 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:15.840 very powerful, and in fact, if viewers would like, I maybe you 124 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.399 could put that in the details box of this show. Later there's a two 125 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:24.960 and a half minute video of me addressing the police there in Watertown. So 126 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.159 this is nothing new. When you look down through history, you'll notice that 127 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:33.320 from time to time, men make evil through law, and that's what's happened 128 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:39.200 here. Your mayor, the civil authorities here are joining with evil. And 129 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:45.480 those of you who are lesser magistrates you carry the guns. You're not just 130 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.320 mere robots for the state. You have to answer to God also for what 131 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:52.120 you do. So when they do something contrary to His law and word, 132 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:56.639 your duty is not to obey them, but to tell them no. It's 133 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:01.000 called the inner position of the lesser magistrate. Extremely important to understand it. 134 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:07.480 Romans thirteen again for those of your officers who just arrived, makes it clear 135 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:11.480 that your duty is to punish the evil doers. That would be the people 136 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:16.440 over there that are sexualizing children, and your duty is to reward those who 137 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:22.320 do good. That would be the people you've arrested. So you've totally perverted 138 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:26.519 your God given functional role, turned it on its head. And we wonder 139 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:33.399 how did evil get a foothold in Germany in the Soviet Union. It was 140 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:39.360 because of the blithe compliance of all the authorities that one after another down the 141 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:43.399 food chain said yeah, I'm going to look out for myself rather than do 142 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:50.399 what's right and say no, this is wrong and this is wrong. What 143 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:54.639 they're doing here is evil. This would are you kidding me? Do you 144 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:58.759 see what's going on up in that stage? Do you see they're normalizing this 145 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:03.399 to the minds of the children when you're older. These are the kids. 146 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:07.840 They'll be the people who decide whether you live or die when you're elderly. 147 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:13.720 This is what they're training them in. So you have to make a decision 148 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:18.360 to either go along, to get along, or to some point make a 149 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.279 stand, like at the very least, you shouldn't be arresting the good guys 150 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.960 and letting the bad guys have free rain. Your duty is to arrest the 151 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:35.240 bad guys. There is an ordinance right here in town regarding instructing children and 152 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:41.600 sexual matters. What do you think that's all about. They're instructing children and 153 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:46.799 sexual matters. You could arrest them, but you chose not to. You 154 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:52.639 chose to arrest the Christians who are simply out here praying and offering literature to 155 00:11:52.720 --> 00:12:01.200 people. And at that site. Also, we have a list of other 156 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:05.960 videos from the day showing the arrests that took place, because there's four people 157 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:11.080 arrested in all, including this young man Marcus Schroeder, who you had mentioned. 158 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:16.039 Earlier who attends our congregation. In fact, he's one of only about 159 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:18.720 five people I've ever met in my life. He told me he's listened to 160 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.960 every one of my sermons that are posted publicly, which of course is hundreds 161 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:26.840 and hundreds, and well, I can see he's in a great I can 162 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:31.320 see the effective and listening to your sermons as well. And what this guy 163 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:35.200 did beause I've got a clip of him standing before the council. Let's play 164 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.080 that now since we're talking about Marcus, and then you can tell us atle 165 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.960 bit more about him. Here he is talking to the council and at the 166 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:45.480 beginning of the program, let's just call it that. Let's not add the 167 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.480 city there, it's just the council. So many Christians have been hauled before 168 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.200 the council so many times. Here's what he said. Here he is, 169 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:56.240 I get a picture of the room. Goodnight. I just wanted to ask 170 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:01.080 a simple question. I know, you know ZI group showed up at the 171 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:03.200 event Saturday and people were talking about that, and I just wanted for all 172 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:09.360 of us to really think about this. What's rawn with Nazism? Like, 173 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.879 seriously, what's wrong with Nazism? Because imagine for a moment, that there's 174 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:18.080 no God above us, no how below us, no heaven to live for, 175 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.679 as John Lennon wanted to imagine, if we are truly the result of 176 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:28.120 evolved starred us and our ancestors were fish and were the descendants of monkeys, 177 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:33.399 then where do we find our value as human beings? What's rawn with Nazism 178 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:37.679 unless if you understands that the God of Scripture says that we are made in 179 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:43.120 his image, and so to murder innocent people is a violation to God's commands. 180 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.240 As a Christian, I can say that Nazis what the Nazis did and 181 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:50.879 Nazi Germany was completely horrific, and that they should have been resistant. In 182 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:54.960 fact, the number one people group that resisted the Nazis were Christians and the 183 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:00.919 reason why. The reason why was because they had a worldview that says that 184 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:05.000 people are made in God's image and that they have worth and value. That's 185 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:09.320 why Nazism is wrong. But if we're going to reject the Christian worldview, 186 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:11.519 then we can't hold on to the fruit that comes from the Christian worldview, 187 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:20.240 will denying the actual foundation. Intolerance is an interesting word. Tolerance, Intolerance, 188 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.879 hatred, love, bigotry, things like that, because really every culture 189 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:28.960 has something that it's intolerant towards and something that it's tolerance of. I mean, 190 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:33.120 there are things like murder and rape and and you know, stealing and 191 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.960 just crimes that we are intolerant towards as a society. And so every society 192 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:41.639 has something that's intolerant towards. The question is just what is our object of 193 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:46.759 intolerance and what is our object of tolerance. When I showed up Saturday, 194 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:50.480 all I did was read from scripture on the sidewalk. I read from the 195 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:54.120 Bible Galacians. And by the way, I wasn't reading romans want, I 196 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:58.960 wasn't reading any passage that spoke against homosexuality or anything like that. I was 197 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:03.559 reading a passage from the Bible about love. And I was arrested no reason, 198 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.080 not given any warning, not told anything about my amplification need to be 199 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:13.480 turning down. I was arrested and taken into custody simply for reading the Bible 200 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.000 on the sidewalk. You see, as we've become more and more tolerant of 201 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.759 sexual im morality in our culture, we've become more and more intolerant towards Christian 202 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:26.399 morality, and the more we become intolerant towards Christian morality, the more we're 203 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:31.200 going to see lawlessness in our streets. The more we become intolerant of Christian 204 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:33.480 morality, the more we're going to see Nazis, the more we're going to 205 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:37.480 see people who don't hold to a Christian worldview, who think that everybody is 206 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.200 a result of animals, and therefore, if we are animals, then why 207 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:46.480 can't we just act like animals. We were called a hate group, we 208 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:48.279 were told that we don't want to understand the other side, and I just 209 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:52.919 want to set the record straight. I am more than happy to have that 210 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:56.720 conversation with the other side. I did speech and debate throughout high school, 211 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:58.639 and one of the things that we were taught in debate is that you can't 212 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:03.120 an argument for your side, and so you're able to make the argument for 213 00:16:03.159 --> 00:16:07.960 the other side. I've sat down and had hours of discussions with LGBTQ activists. 214 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:11.440 I completely understand the other side. I want to understand the other side, 215 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:15.279 but drag queens twerking on kids in lingerie is unacceptable, and that's something 216 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:19.000 that we have to notice as a culture. We can have our disagreements, 217 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:22.240 but there comes a time when we have to understand that we are all going 218 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:26.639 to stand before God one day and we're going to have to give an account 219 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.639 for what we have done with the children in our society, the innocent minds 220 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:36.200 and the children who deserve to be protected. Thank you, Wow, well, 221 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:41.639 great speech Marcus Schroeder nineteen years old, somebody who is a student of 222 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:45.480 yours, and it certainly does show Matt. That was well said and he 223 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:48.799 hit all the points out. YEA, yeah, amazing he did. He's 224 00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:52.639 a good young man. He was raised in a good Christian home. His 225 00:16:53.799 --> 00:17:00.240 mother and father poured so much into him and it's been blessing in an honor 226 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.639 to know him over the last few years while as he attended our congregation and 227 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.640 be able to pour into his life more. And there was about thirty young 228 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:11.319 people out there that day, and most of them are very well spoken. 229 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:15.799 And what I've always noticed when the young people come out, David, it's 230 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:21.599 so encourages the older people. Yes, because so often you go to Christian 231 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:26.079 gatherings now to speak out publicly, and it's mostly gray haired people, that's 232 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:29.160 what I see. And so when they see yeah, when they see so 233 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:32.480 many young people, it is a great encouragement to their heart. It really 234 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:33.440 is, it really is. That's one of the reasons why I want to 235 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:38.559 cover this because you typically don't see that. And so tell us a little 236 00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:42.279 bit about you know where what happens at this point. You know where he 237 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:47.319 spoke before the council. I mean, we've seen recent things like this in 238 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:49.880 Pennsylvania, a similar thing. We had a guy show up at one of 239 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:56.079 these events and the police immediately arrested him. They have now thrown those charges 240 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:00.519 out because there's no basis for that. This is the type a thing we've 241 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:04.799 been seeing for years, years in the UK, and it's gotten you know, 242 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:08.960 everywhere you see this. Even had a person arrested in front of an 243 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:15.400 abortion clinic for bowing her head and praying silently. That's just beyond imagination. 244 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:19.119 But that's happening in the UK, and now this stuff is coming to America. 245 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:22.319 And if you point out, it's not just in the big cities, 246 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:25.920 it's in places like reading, Pennsylvania, It's in places like this small town 247 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:30.759 in Wisconsin that you are at. So it truly is amazing. And so 248 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:36.680 where is this at this point in time. Yeah, Like, as Marcus 249 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:41.079 said, as tolerance for evil continues to grow in our culture, intolerance for 250 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:45.160 Christian morality will continue to grow. And as you point it out, it 251 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:48.680 is growing. I mean, I know twenty three Christians right now that are 252 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:53.519 looking up to thirty two looking at up to thirty two years in prison for 253 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:59.680 simply peacefully interposing to keep a preborn baby from being murdered. Is that the 254 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.960 faith? That's what they're looking at. The fact stuff, yeah, fathact 255 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:07.079 Yeah, yeah, And just those trials have just started this week. Yeah. 256 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.240 And one of the people who had start his family swat team, he's 257 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:15.200 now going to run for Congress, So good for him, Good for him. 258 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:19.359 Yeah, good to hear. What's happening in Watertown is last night they 259 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:26.400 had a private meeting between the police and the council to talk all about what 260 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:34.160 happened there and about an impossible impending lawsuit coming against them, And that is 261 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:41.319 a possibility. We'll see as far as Marcus's charges go. I think it's 262 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:45.480 looking like Liberty Council may represent him on that and take care of everything and 263 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:51.960 good and you know, intervene in the situation. And I don't know how 264 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:56.680 far they plan on taking things from there. But this is a growing thing. 265 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:03.839 And what's unfortunate is that often when people are arrested outside these events, 266 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:08.440 and it's even happened in California where Christian people and non Christian people have come 267 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:15.000 out against this filth and they get arrested while all the filthy drag queen stuff 268 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:21.599 continues on. But what it does often to most people is it intimidates them 269 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:26.039 not to want to come and speak out. Unfortunately, it should when we 270 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:29.480 see that in boldness, right, it was gonna be like, yeah, 271 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:32.519 where's the battle, Let me get to the front line. That's how we 272 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:34.920 should think as Christians. But for most Christians, they don't think that way. 273 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:40.839 They're intimidated further into their silence. And that's the worst thing you can 274 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:45.200 do when evil is in the land is be silent and accommodate yourself to it. 275 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:49.079 And that's by and large what Christianity has been doing for forty years now 276 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:56.440 while this juggernaut of homosex has been tramping across the country. I'm reading Greg 277 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:03.079 Bohnson's work called Homosexuality from nineteen seventy eight right now. Everything he said in 278 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:08.359 seventy eight David is still applicable to today regarding all of the presupposition that they 279 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:14.599 sell this evil and filth through and on. So it's extremely important. While 280 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:17.880 the Church has spent all this time wanting to be loving, which just is 281 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:26.880 a misnomer for being indifferent towards this homo sex, they have taken the nation. 282 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.720 And so it's encouraging to see some Christians who realize they no longer have 283 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:37.079 the convenience of being indifferent towards the unjust and evil actions of their government and 284 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:41.519 evil actions of men, and must speak out and proclaim Christ and point men 285 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:44.119 to him. That's right, I said. For the longest time, I 286 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:48.039 said, Look, they say that they want tolerance, but as Marcus pointed 287 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:48.759 out, you know, what are you going to tolerate? You know, 288 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.359 if you tolerate, and what are your standards of tolerance. But in addition 289 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:56.400 to that, they don't want tolerance. They demand that you celebrate what they 290 00:21:56.440 --> 00:22:00.039 do, and you must celebrate it, and they want to celebrate it with 291 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:04.119 pride, and you know, through Pride Month, there was one incident where 292 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:10.200 I think it was in California. We had men parading down the street naked 293 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:14.160 and somebody called up the police and said, I want to report a naked 294 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:18.279 man who's walking down the street. And the cops said, where is it? 295 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:19.759 Oh, wait a minute, you're talking about the Pride parade. That's 296 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:22.640 okay, you know, And it's like, why is that okay? Why 297 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:26.839 is that okay? That should not be okay? I know, watch standard? 298 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:29.279 Is that okay? Why does that guy get a pass for doing this 299 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:33.319 stuff? Why can they do this lewd sexual behavior with kids? I mean, 300 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:36.200 we have all kinds of restrictions for kids. These are the people who 301 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:37.880 want to say, well, you know, can't have guns. You gotta 302 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:41.480 take the you know, can't drive, can't have guns. Gonna take this 303 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:44.680 further. And I agree with a lot of those restrictions because kids are not 304 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:48.279 adults. They don't let kids in casinos, they don't let kids in bars, 305 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:52.599 and yet they let these people do this stuff in public on the streets 306 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:56.960 and do it with kids. That's the thing that is truly amazing and must 307 00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:02.240 not be tolerated. It cannot be tolerated, I agree, And it needs 308 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:04.079 to be approached two ways. One to the people who are out on the 309 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:08.440 streets bringing God's word and gospel to men, and it also needs to be 310 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:12.799 engaged at the magisterial level with the magistrates, at the county, local, 311 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:18.559 village, city level. You have to go, I love what you said 312 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.240 earlier. Get your eyes off the shiny object over by the Potomac. You 313 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:27.240 know. It's just like we need to think locally and around where we live 314 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:32.640 and engage at that point. So you have to take the magistrates. The 315 00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:37.240 magistrates need to hear from you, and like Marcus went to the meeting to 316 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:41.960 speak, we teach our people that here routinely. So you go to the 317 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:47.799 streets and you go to the places where the officials are gathering and hold public 318 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:52.319 meetings, and you speak. It has to be twofold. Another group that 319 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:55.759 was out there that day you heard Marcus mentioned the Nazis, which we don't 320 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.079 know if they were actually Nazis. The flags they had looked like they were 321 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:03.559 just rolled out of a piece of plastic never been used before, and they 322 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:07.119 were all massed up. You couldn't see. They could have been federal agents, 323 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:11.000 they could have been Antifa, who knows who they are. But another 324 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:15.759 group that was out there was the Gaze against groomers. And what's concerned to 325 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:19.279 me, David, and I've seen many Christians and Conservatives. They get all 326 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:25.640 excited, Yay, the homosexuals are here to speak against transgenderisms. You know 327 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:30.519 what, I'm thinking to myself, are you crazy? The only reason we're 328 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:36.960 at the point of drag queen shows for children and child genital mutilation is because 329 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:41.440 of our nation's acceptance of homosex to begin with, because we spit on God's 330 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:48.039 law regarding sodomy so many decades ago. This is why we're where we're at 331 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:52.559 now. You don't join with evil people, you don't join with wicked men 332 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:59.720 and say let's take a stand together against evil, because the only reason we're 333 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:03.599 at this evil is because of the evil that they practice in their own lot. 334 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.079 I agree. I've played, I've played. I agree. I've played 335 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:12.559 clips from Gaze against groomers, not to elevate them, but to tell people, 336 00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:17.720 look, uh, they're they're pointing out that this is coming after kids 337 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:23.720 and under which you know what kind of Again, they are practicing homosexual sex 338 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:27.160 and all the rest of the stuff. But you know this is they're pointing 339 00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.920 out, this is going into pedophilia, it's going into the next thing, 340 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.920 and it is a logical progression. But even they're saying, you know, 341 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:37.319 hey, I don't want to be a part of this, and so where 342 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:38.519 do they draw the line? How did they know how to draw the line 343 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:41.920 not basing it on some moral standard, And that's that's how we get onto 344 00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:45.640 this slippery slope. But it's to underscore the fact that, as a matter 345 00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:48.400 of fact, there was some guy who was all made up as a drag 346 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:51.640 queen at one point in time. I've played his clip and he said, 347 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:55.200 hey, I want to talk to you heterosexual mothers out there. You don't 348 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:59.000 understand what this is. I mean, this whole scene is about sex and 349 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:03.359 drugs. You're naive if you think that you're teaching your kids tolerance, you're 350 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:06.799 teaching them the sex and drug stuff. And I know because I'm a quote 351 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:11.440 unquote conservative drag queen. We've also seen the same stuff about the celebration of 352 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:15.839 a Bruce Gender, you know, as he calls himself Caitlin and Sean Hannity 353 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.039 falls all over himself. Oh look, we've got somebody who's a transgender. 354 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.519 If I put them on my show, that shows how tolerant and open minded 355 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.799 I am. And I could get Bruce Gender to talk about how he doesn't 356 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:27.720 want women in sports. But of course he's fine with the rest of this 357 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:33.240 stuff, right, Yes, no, And that's exactly that's a great point. 358 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.480 It is so evil that they even see that. It's evil. Yeah, 359 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:42.519 as you're pointing out and what we've seen, and we're probably near the 360 00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:49.319 same age. I've watched this for decades now. One generation accepts something, 361 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:55.759 you know, tolerate something I should say, and the next generation accepts it 362 00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:00.680 as completely normal. And so now here the line is transgender is gental's mutilation. 363 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:07.359 Twenty thirty years ago, the line was homosex. Ten years after that, 364 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.960 it was homosexual marriage. We just keep stepping. The decline just continues. 365 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.680 What matters is God's standard, that's right, which doesn't change what is 366 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.880 His law and word declare on this matter. Yeah, and we even have 367 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.680 people like Andy Stanley, Charles Stanley's son, how they're saying the most courageous 368 00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:29.000 people in this church are the LGBT people. And he's holding events now to 369 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:33.240 help parents with their LGBT kids. Here's how you accept them and all the 370 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:34.920 rest of this kind of stuff. It's like, that's not that's not what 371 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.759 the parents are supposed to be teaching their kids. But he's completely left the 372 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.400 Bible. You know, if he started out a couple of years ago saying, 373 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:44.799 well, the Old Testament doesn't apply, we can forget about that. 374 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.680 Now, we can forget about this, and then it does forget about the 375 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:49.400 rest of this stuff. And he was one of the people who was adamant 376 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.640 that we had to keep the churches locked down, and he was attacking people 377 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:57.000 who opened up their churches in twenty twenty. It is all part of the 378 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:02.079 same perspective, I think. And when we talk about the lesser magistrates on 379 00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:06.359 a different issue in terms of the lockdown issue, I'm sure you remember in 380 00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:11.279 Moscow, Idaho, the people and Doug Wilson's church out there and how they 381 00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.359 had like an open air sing and they had some people that got arrested, 382 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:19.160 three or four people arrested. That's now been resolved as of July. In 383 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:22.640 January, they were found to be not guilty, and the judge really read 384 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.400 them the Riot Act. He said, look in your own regulation that you 385 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.440 created, you referenced both the Idaho and the US Constitution. He said, 386 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:34.400 we cannot, we cannot. We allowed for exceptions, and that said any 387 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:41.200 and all expressive activity and associative activity protected by the Idaho Constitution the US Constitution, 388 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.960 including speech, press, assembly, and or religious activity. And yet 389 00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.799 they still arrested these people who were in a public square and who were singing, 390 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.960 because they said that violated their COVID regulations. And the judge said, 391 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:57.000 nobody in your organization ever read this exception since ridiculous. And so six months 392 00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:02.000 later the three people got arrested. They paid them a total of three hundred 393 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.960 thousand dollars settlement. And we should go for this type of punishment. I 394 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.079 know that it comes out of the taxpayer's pocket, but it has to be 395 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:17.039 something that people see as punishment and as admission of wrongdoing. And of course 396 00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.640 there's still another case that is, you talked about one of the people from 397 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:26.640 your church being given a fine or something for holding a sign. And after 398 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:32.000 this happened with the scene, you had Doug Wilson's kids or something did some 399 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:36.480 stickers and said welcome to Soviet Moscow and put them on poles, and they 400 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.559 took pictures of it. And they are all kinds of stickers on these polls, 401 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:41.319 and yet they single them out. They were the only ones that they 402 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.119 came after with and charged them with a crime, and so that's still in 403 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:49.599 play there. But that's the kind of vindictiveness and selective prosecution that we expect 404 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:53.720 to see out of this kind of persecution because it really is a political persecution 405 00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:57.680 at this point, isn't. Yeah, And they'll win that case too, 406 00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:03.559 because it's content discrimination. You leave all the other speech up there on the 407 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.480 poll is single them out and charge them. Yeah, that's that's a that's 408 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.640 that'll be an easy win for them. You know, when you look at 409 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:17.480 that, the other groups are getting involved. As I told people in Watertown 410 00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:19.559 that day, I said, we got the Nazis here. We have to 411 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:23.680 gaze against grumers here. Do you see why it's so important for us as 412 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:29.440 Christians to be here. Yes, we need to bring Christian thought to this 413 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.559 fight, to this battle. Yes, And it's encouraging to see more and 414 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.000 more Christians engaging in the battle. That's right. Let's talk about that. 415 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.160 Because Marcus was reading a passage they said it was about love, he said, 416 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:42.160 it wasn't about Hey, I wasn't calling him out on their sin. 417 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:45.680 You know, there's plenty of passages that he could have used Old Testament and 418 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.319 New Testament to talk about their sin. And you know, people new need 419 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.240 to understand their need for Christ. So they need to understand what their sin 420 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:55.759 is. That's the point leading you to Christ. You've got to understand why 421 00:30:55.759 --> 00:31:00.880 you need him while you stay in condemned or you're not going to be interested 422 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.880 in hearing about it. And so you know, we don't we don't avoid 423 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.000 that. But he wasn't even talking about that at that point in time. 424 00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:07.519 He was talking about what real love is. Talk a little bit about that 425 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:14.799 what he was saying in Galatians. Yeah, I wasn't there when Marcus was 426 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.240 arrested. They had a two pronged thing that day. One was in the 427 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:21.319 morning hours. I was there from like ten thirty to twelve thirty when the 428 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:26.519 other arrests took place, and then his arrest took place when they reconvened around 429 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.440 four pm to do further activities from four to six. So I don't know 430 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:37.880 what He didn't need to express what his point was, because they swooped in 431 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:42.880 on him, didn't even give him a warning, just grabbed him, handcuffed 432 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.079 him, grabbed the mic out of his hand, and whisked him over to 433 00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:52.519 the command center. So I don't know what they figured out he was going 434 00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:53.960 to read from the Bible. That's it. That's not going to be allowed. 435 00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:56.039 Yeah, that was it. I'm not gonna let you read anything from 436 00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:01.039 the Bible's uh So, you know, because I guess pretty much they realized 437 00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:06.920 that that the whole warp and wolf of the thing is against what they're supporting 438 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.160 there at that point in time. But you've also been very active in terms 439 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:13.960 of pro life stuff. And you know, I my wife when we were 440 00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:20.039 living in Austin, there was an abortion uh let's call it a facility there 441 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.359 that there was a She was part of a protest that that was there, 442 00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:28.799 and they were holding up signs and that was the first time I ever saw 443 00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:32.240 Antifa that came up there. And I was at work, and this happened 444 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.559 while I was at work, and she went there with my teen daughter, 445 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:42.240 and these Antifa people showed up with just a black sign and tried to put 446 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.680 they had nothing to the point is, they had nothing to say, and 447 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.039 they didn't want to try to defend their practices. They just wanted to cover 448 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.240 up what she had there. And so they come up with their sign, 449 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:53.519 this big guy and he puts his sign in front of her sign. So 450 00:32:53.599 --> 00:32:57.480 she goes down low. He goes download and she goes up. Fine, 451 00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:59.920 they're going back and forth, up and down because he's trying to keep his 452 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.759 black signe in front of her signe. But it truly was amazing, and 453 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:08.440 she got some pictures of them and they were just defiant, saying, I 454 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:13.839 kill my kids and I'm proud of it, you know. So one woman 455 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.640 said, you got that on video. It truly is amazing how hardened these 456 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:20.480 people are. And that's the way you see with the LGBT stuff. Now, 457 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.160 this is an entitlement, and if you get between them and your children, 458 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:28.960 then you're committing genocide to them, because that's the way that they reproduce 459 00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:34.880 is mentally and spiritually, isn't it. Absolutely no, they're predators and they 460 00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:40.599 look to, you know, get other people's children into their evil ways because 461 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:46.079 they don't have children themselves, unless, of course, they joined together in 462 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:53.559 our society as quote unquote husband and wife and then are able to adopt a 463 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:58.759 child, which is just pure evil in and of itself. Once you call 464 00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:02.920 what God calls criminal, you call it not a crime. That's right. 465 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.880 You've allowed all kinds of evil to just exacerbate itself, including little children, 466 00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:13.440 taking them to homes by two men or two women and taught a corrupt, 467 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:17.400 evil lifestyle. That's right. Yeah, yeah, I cannot cannot embrace that. 468 00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:22.719 We had an employee in our store and she was a very good employee. 469 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:27.320 She was a store manager, a really nice person. Well, never 470 00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:30.599 had any problem with her, and then one day she she's a lesbian, 471 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.840 and she came to us and said, I'd like for you to sign this 472 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:37.400 document. We're trying to adopt a child. And I said I can't do 473 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:40.760 that, and that was the end of the relationship. But I just couldn't 474 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.639 do it. You know, she was very nice person, but I could 475 00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.119 not do that to a child. Could not. No, amazing, Yeah, 476 00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:51.639 how could you in good conscious? Absolutely not. Yeah, but that's 477 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.400 what happens. It proliferates into so many areas of life to where now And 478 00:34:55.440 --> 00:35:00.079 as you said, we're old enough to remember when they just wanted fair hearing 479 00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:05.360 in a fair playing field. No, we soon learned that there really is 480 00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:09.639 no neutrality because once they had the upper hand. Now they demand everybody affirm 481 00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:15.280 and they will use the force of law or costs you your job if you 482 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:19.880 don't conform to their evil thinking. That's right, yeah, and we say 483 00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.719 it is no neutrality. You're right, and we've seen that, of course 484 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.239 with the Marxists and with free speech as well. It used to be the 485 00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:28.400 free speech thing was all based in Berkeley and everything. Where are they coming 486 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.199 the most after free speech? Now it's in these types of liberal academia. 487 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.559 You know, now that they've got the upper hand, now that they've taken 488 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.320 over the institutions, they will not tolerate the values that we put in there. 489 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.119 And that's exactly what Marcus was saying. You know, here in Tennessee, 490 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.280 in Nashville, where they had the transgender go in and murder a bunch 491 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.239 of children in a Christian school, murdering them point blank, shooting them. 492 00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:55.199 We're not allowed to see the transgender's manifesto, but we have a manifesto of 493 00:35:55.239 --> 00:36:00.880 a sorts, because we now have in Nashville, Tennessee, a transgender guy 494 00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:06.639 who is pretending to be a woman. He's going by the name of Olivia 495 00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.760 Hill, and he's now just made the runoff and talking about how he is 496 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:19.559 a proud transgender woman. I'm sorry, go ahead, Hello, do we 497 00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:23.079 lose you? I'm still here? Okay, good, good good. We're 498 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:29.400 getting some for some reason. Oh okay, all right, he ran an 499 00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:37.159 ass in Nashville and he said that the transgenders are under attack from right wing 500 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:42.920 conservatives. That's to see opposite. You had a Christian school where the nine 501 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.880 year old kids were executed by this transgender and he points out that they're under 502 00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:52.480 attack by conservatives. It's absolutely amazing how they turn everything upside down and inside 503 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.440 out, isn't it, Matt? Exactly? They provoke, they poke, 504 00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:01.199 and yet any kind of response, they play the victim. And even when 505 00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:07.440 one of their people murders children, they still want to play the victim. 506 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:15.719 Our own governor here in Wisconsin put out something that was despicable, basically pointing 507 00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:19.880 everyone saying that, well, we kind of should expect that to happen, 508 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:25.280 because, yeah, look at how badly these transgender people are treated. The 509 00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:30.519 guy's evil. And I've seen so many government officials talk exactly like that, 510 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:38.360 and unfortunately, the will quote unquote good magistrates or Christian magistrates are overwhelmingly silent 511 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:44.199 on these matters, and they need to speak. And one of the things 512 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:47.400 that helps encourage them to speak, are we the people. You need to 513 00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:52.360 contact them and tell them you need to take a stand against this filth, 514 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:58.400 this evil. You need to speak or bring legislation regarding the evil that's being 515 00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:01.400 done here. It was good to see that Tennessee passed the law to bring 516 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:07.360 an end to all this public Yes, I believe it was Tennessee drag queen 517 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.519 stuff, that's right. Yeah, it was blocked momentarily by a Trump appointed 518 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:14.719 judge and then it got that drudge got shut down later on. But going 519 00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.039 back to this woman who was running not a woman as a guy, as 520 00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:22.679 a woman who was running for Nashville City Council. The people who have endorsed 521 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:30.280 him the Metropolitan Nashville Education Association, So there's the teachers behind him, some 522 00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:35.920 the Nashville Business Coalition, and the Tennessee advocates for Planned parenthood. Now there 523 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:42.119 is no planned parenthood clinic in Tennessee because Tennessee has made an abortion illegal from 524 00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.440 the moment of fertilization, and so there is no planned parenthood here. But 525 00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:52.840 they have allied themselves with this transgender movement nevertheless, because again they put themselves 526 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:59.280 in a position to profit from this stuff by giving life altering and sterilizing drugs 527 00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.599 to young children. And so you know, they want to be a part 528 00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:06.480 of murdering or mutilating children in any way that they can for money. And 529 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.679 so you know, these are the people who are supporting this individual running for 530 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:16.360 council in Tennessee. It truly is amazing, but it is good that that 531 00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:19.960 it. You know, they have fought them on the mutilation stuff. They 532 00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.440 fought them on the abortion stuff. As recently as two thy fifteen, I 533 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:28.039 wrote down there were eleven thousand, four hundred and eighteen babies who are murdered 534 00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:32.440 in Tennessee by planned parenthood and their ILK as of this year. Zero zero. 535 00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:37.800 Praise God, yeah, and praise God. Yeah. No, that's 536 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:39.679 good deal. And by the way, I known quite a few people now 537 00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:45.920 who've moved to Tennessee because of where they were living and how terrible things have 538 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:51.480 become and how their magistrates are just lost causes, and so they've moved to 539 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:55.559 Tennessee in order to join with people who seemed to still have a semblance of 540 00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:00.360 sanity in their heads. I'm one of them. I wanted that's I look 541 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:01.719 around. Karen and I were just talking to the other day about the attitude 542 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:05.880 the people that are here, in the society that's here, and how much 543 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.880 better things work in terms of just paving the roads and things like that. 544 00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:10.400 And I said, you know, Tennessee is what America used to be. 545 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:17.280 I said, maybe the aging should be make America Tennessee again, make it 546 00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:21.880 more like Tennessee, more like Tennessee the rest of America. But yeah, 547 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:23.639 it is. It is truly amazing and it does make a difference. And 548 00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:29.360 you know that's something to think about. If you can't get enough people together 549 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:34.760 to do something about the lower level magistrate, which is so important, maybe 550 00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:37.400 you need to vote with your feet and get out of there. Yeah, 551 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.679 another jurisdiction. No, absolutely, that is totally legitimate, and it's going 552 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:45.320 to be It's already been going on now and it's going to continue to grow 553 00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:50.199 as this evil continues grow. And ultimately what we need, David, is 554 00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:53.760 repentance. Yeah, we need repentance within the Christian community, within the churches, 555 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:59.840 amongst the churchmen, and we need to call the nation to Repentance's right, 556 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:05.039 and until we see that, it's all like, you know, doing 557 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:09.159 stuff that needs to be done to stanch the evil from continuing. But we 558 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:15.519 really need to understand the importance of repentance in our lives, in the life 559 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:19.719 of the church, and then in the life of our nation also. And 560 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:25.440 so during the plandemic I saw some repentance a little, and but there certainly 561 00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.800 was no run on sackcloth and ashes down at day's hardware. And now we've 562 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:37.599 seen most people return to the food and ease and entertainment because the tyrants have 563 00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:44.239 backed off. What they have to understand is God is just, and he 564 00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.440 will judge a nation with this much innocent blood on its hands. He will 565 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:53.519 judge a nation which has tolerated the filth of homosex to where it's impacted children 566 00:41:54.360 --> 00:42:00.440 at this level, with genital mutilation, them adopting them as their own own 567 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:06.599 sons and daughters. That God will not let that go. And so he 568 00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:10.239 is long suffering. He gives us space to repent, but he brings his 569 00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:14.400 judgments, and I've seen it in my lifetime, and you'll see a little 570 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:20.039 bit of space of repentance amongst Americans. Then they all quickly go back. 571 00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:25.039 How it is. So I think it's extremely important to understand the need for 572 00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:29.760 repentance in our nation at this time and in our own lives and in our 573 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.480 own churches. I agree, And that's as you pointed out before so many 574 00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:35.679 church people. Oh, I don't want to hurt their feelings, you know, 575 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.719 I want to be winsome so I can win somebody to Christ. That 576 00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:40.599 type of thing, you know, they have to understand. A loving thing 577 00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:45.840 is to tell him truthfully where they stand, you know, and to get 578 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:49.440 them to do some self examination. That's the really loving thing to do. 579 00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.239 It's not loving to tell somebody, hey, that's just fine, you know, 580 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:54.000 I don't This bus is coming and somebody just walked out in front of 581 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:55.800 it. But I don't want to yell at him. I might scare him, 582 00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.519 you know, so I'll let him get run over by the bus. 583 00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:00.119 That's not a loving thing to do. And it's not a loving thing to 584 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:05.199 take that kind of approach as a church to people in this country. And 585 00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.480 we understand regardless of people whether yeah. And this is the other thing about 586 00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.719 this man. You know, you talk about in your book The Doctor and 587 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.880 the Lesser Magistrate. You talk about these the understanding and the approach that people 588 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.760 took who are not Christians. You know, you give some examples of Roman 589 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:24.599 Emperor and so forth, Trajan who's talking about the justice and morality. But 590 00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:31.239 we have to understand that when you abandon these principles of morality what truly happens 591 00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:36.159 in a society. And you know, we've seen what a society without any 592 00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:39.239 morality, without any rule of law looks like. We've seen what the solitarian 593 00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:43.639 societies look like. And yet all of these things are descending on us. 594 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.639 And I agree with you, I think it is a judgment from God. 595 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:51.599 It is. And you know, our response to the state of our nation 596 00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:54.159 again has to be twofold. We have to be fishers of men, go 597 00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:59.679 out to the streets, decry the evil, point men to Christ. And 598 00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:04.639 we have to go to the magistrates and instruct them in their role, in 599 00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:09.559 their functions, in their duties, in their limits. That's extremely important for 600 00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:15.280 us to do as Christian people. Yeah, I could not so I yep. 601 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:19.880 So I hope we see more of that in the days ahead, because 602 00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:23.760 it's it's gravely needed and that our hearts should be breaking at this point the 603 00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:29.880 things you were just talking about about what true love is and the truly loving 604 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:32.039 thing to do. You know, I run into Christians from time to time. 605 00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:35.960 They can't even wrap their head around something like what you were saying, 606 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:40.519 and I always point him to that sermon by Ray Comfort called Hell's Best Kept 607 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:44.519 Secret. I said, listen to this sermon. I think it would be 608 00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:49.039 a great starting point for you. I understand what exactly I'm trying to communicate. 609 00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.719 You know, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, he likes he 610 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.119 does a great job of pointing out to people. Okay, you know you're 611 00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:58.639 staying condemned. Do you want to parachute or not? You want to jump 612 00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:00.519 out of this point? You don't walk in a die at some point in 613 00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:02.360 time. We don't know when that's going to happen. Have you ever thought 614 00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:06.320 about that's that type of thing. And so, yeah, it is important 615 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:09.039 that people need to understand their need. They need to understand accurately where they 616 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:13.840 stand. And even the people who don't want to think about that, they 617 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:17.760 need to think about what they have seen in other societies that become lawless and 618 00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:22.480 immoral and all the rest of this. And maybe that'll help them to start 619 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.880 to connect the bigger dots that are going to have some kind of eternal implications 620 00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:30.519 for them. And again I want to tell people recommend your book. Yet 621 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:35.719 again, that is the doctrine of lesser magistrates. A very small book packed 622 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.840 with information, a very quick read. I think it is excellent as the 623 00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:45.320 best understanding for non Christians, I think to see the historical thread of this, 624 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:50.320 but especially for Christians, it is an essential read since so many people 625 00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:57.480 have misrepresented what our responsibility to government is. And I think you divide it 626 00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.320 exactly right. The book is a doctor, Lesser Magistrates, and people can 627 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:04.400 find it of course at Amazon, but it's better if they get it directly 628 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:08.159 from you and cut out Jeff pays Us and company. It's Defy Tyrants dot 629 00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:13.119 Com. Is that correct? Or is it that's correct? Absolutely, Defy 630 00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:16.159 Tyrants dot Com. Good good, and send us that clip and we'll get 631 00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:22.039 that in in terms of your interaction there at that event. 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