God damn fucking intro is not gonna work. I just know how to keep
my mouth shut. Man. You see intro playing. I hear it on
the song. You don't. You don't hear it. I can here.
Oh, I think it's I think it's one of the All Stars ones.
Definitely not the season. The digital one decided it didn't want to work,
so so cat get off me. This is a fucking horrible intro. Everybody
welcome challenge. The podcast all about the challenge as always. I am Brian
sitting in Germantown Hills, Big Uncle, Sweet Tea, and sitting in Minnesota
at her Colorado. She's wearing a shirt that says the fucking state on it.
Dude, Well, yours says something. Blanton's says. I wasn't gonna
read yours. I'm not definitely not reading hers. It looks like I'm looking
at her chest, you pervert. Hey, and we're Carlin's to Colorado,
Carlin San Diego. Hello, there you go, Case says Wolf. I
need you to test these. They work when I test them. You don't
work when it comes to showtime. Kay's getting sassy over there. Okay,
comb comba down. You know the role and shut their mouth. Everybody.
I'm gonna challenge by group, and you can also drive a Patreon, which
we'll get into later. Which one do you use doing notes? I am
I'm doing notes for the rest of the season, unless you know, like
fall Cliff. Please don't fall Cliff. By the way, Zach snight here.
Oh yeah, Zac is at work, actually doing work this time.
Chump? What a chump? Drinking apparently good for uk Oh nice, I
just drink the week in between holidays that no one actually does real work except
for Wolfe and Zach apparently. So yeah me, I got five days worth
of work to cram into three days. It's great, Carlyn, what are
you drinking? I know I've asked you a few times. I'm not sure
if you've answered. Oh no, I think you only asked me once and
then I just didn't answer. I'm having port. Oh chalice that my mother
made. Oh, very nice. She's a potter. Yeah, you chose
wisely. So that's what that chilice looks. Yeah it does kind of.
It's not made of wood though true, it's not the cup of a carpenter.
No, it isn't. All right. We were at season thirty nine
episode eleven, and you know Tim's favorite thing happened. No one went home
and there were no consequences for anything. Two episod It's in a row,
guys that every single thing that we saw was completely disposable and that mattered not
at all to the game. Yep. Very frustrated, but tempered by Eating
Challenge. Yes, I have some things to say about the Eating Challenge too.
Oh okay, all right, we'll get there. Well, we start
off back in the house and everybody's kind of bitching a moment about the fact
that they do they have to get ready and get dressed and go back out
to play the game again. Poor Kylan doesn't even get his moment of glory
to talk about I saved the ten thousand dollars and I'm a champion. It's
like, yeah, he was second, not even thirty seconds. And then
they're all off doing things. Yeah, there's nothing really all that exciting other
than when they walk into the into the challenge grounds and Olivia mentions that she
was They say that it looks like a graveyard, and Olivia mentions that she
was invited to a graveyard on a date. Well, the kind of date
was this? You've never been on a on a date to a cemetery.
No, no, I have not said no, no, I did not.
In Australia, they planned that you guys often do. Yeah, that's
a typical first date around here. Yeah, okay, both in the horror
movies. It's not super weird or anything. No, obviously, no first
dates in a cemetery. Yes, that is weird that somebody would invite her
to that. Emmanuals. Maybe they make the comment that Emmanuels should feel like
he's at home, and he says that it feels like he's at his grandma's
house. So he says, first date is strip club's that burned down,
which was our second day, not our first date. Jesus, you went
to a strip club that burned down for your second date. We went to
a com Many club which was the next door, and I showed her I'm
like, this is the strip club that burned down right next door, Pilot.
That's a little bit more of ash and fake diamonds. Yeah, me
and Tim were at a week beforehand yep. Oh so it literally had just
burned down, all right. It was within days of our visit, me
and Me and Wolf and Amanda. It feels like it has to be if
it feels like they have to be involved somehow. I'm one hundred percent sure
it was an insurance scam because we showed up the door guys like, I'm
just going to tell you there's one stripper tonight, and we went in and
nobody was there. The stripper had to get up from talking to the bartender
to go and greet us. Yes, classy establishment. And also me and
City going to the comedy club that was next door to the burned out strip
club was after for having lunch that was attached to a strip club. We
have many strip clubs here in town. It's hard to avoid them. Even
with one bird down, there's still four. Then I guess I should count
myself as blessed for not have been being taken to one while I was out
there. You wish you would have been taken if not for the Mormon presence,
who would have gone? All right? Good to know, you know,
you know Mormon. I mean, we still could have left them in
the party for them. Next time you're in town, Cron, that'll be
fun. All right. Well, we jump into the challenge really quickly in
this episode, but still are going to win. All right. The challenge
is called the Banquet of Champions. My first thought, who do you think
went before this all started? Did you think was going to be the best
to eat? I had good high hopes for Ed. He just seems the
type. He's just sort of a meathead block of a man. He seems
he seems like a CT style. Yeah. Olivia too, seems like she's
just got sort of like the wherewithal the just sort of power through and do
it. Yeah, but I agree with both of those choices. I thought
that the Manuel might do a pretty decent job too. I didn't have a
good gauge of who would be a good one. I didn't either. Yeah,
that's what I've seen any of them do in eating challenge before. Yeah,
so it was kind of fun to see a whole bunch of new people
do it, all right. Uh. The game is four teams of four.
They have locked dinner boxes that are filled with brain, soup, skin
and colon stew, spicy surprise shake, and for snout and ear. They
have to unlock the boxes by they have to go and answer trivia questions and
bring back big heavy trunks and the wrong answer is heavier than the right answer
and they have to bring those trunks back. With those three trunks, they
then get a code they can open the dinner boxes and they have to eat
everything on the plates. First team to eat on all is done is the
winner. Generally, I liked this game. What did you guys think?
I liked the addition of an endurance and a puzzle to the eating challenge.
Yeah, and I liked that that the boxes was like a significant difference,
but not so significant as to like knock anybody out, you know what I
mean, Like it's a pain to carry the heavier boxes, but not it's
not going to eliminate anybody, you know. Yeah, it was significant enough
that if you've got all three right, you were definitely going to be first,
and if you've got all three wrong, you were definitely going to be
last. But you could still potentially when depending on what Yeah, regardless of
either position. Yeah, nobody was out of it by the time they got
to the table. Everybody was still sort of hypothetically in it. Yeah,
yep, Yeah, we have ASIP's team. It was kind of funny all
three trus wrong. We've got all three trucks that were wrong. Yeah,
they got two of them wrong because they listened to Raven. She multiple times
in this episode, she mentions how she's such a strong player. She says
that she's you know, I absolutely know these things, just all of this
stuff, And every single time she said these things, I'm like, I
don't you are so delusional. I don't understand why you think you're such a
strong player. I really don't get it. Yeah, because you have not
proven it at all. She's not the only delusional in this season, true,
most of them are, but she just seems to be delusional on a
different level. Yeah, I agree, And I think it's only going to
get worse because now she's beat Laurel spoiler, and so now it's only going
to get worse. Thoughts about that? Uh okay. He mentions, sorry,
Carlyn, I'm gonna I'm gonna change the subjects and totally exclude you as
well, because Michelle mentioned. Kay mentions that Michelle eats on Survivor, but
I think eating challenges are harder on Survivor. The shit they eat is grosser,
but almost nobody struggles with eating it on Survivor, and I think it's
because they're so fucking hungry. What do you think, wilfe I think that's
great correct statement. If you haven't eaten for four days and then you have
to eat these brains, aren't you more likely to keep them down? Just
like, Yeah, these brains will help me power through the next day or
two. Yeah. So we see people struggle on Survivor, but not like
this, And I really do think the hunger is part of why. Anyway,
Yeah, I could absolutely see that. I mean, they just had
a totally normal meal right before this too, right, so everybody's like,
let's power up before we go, and everybody's scooping food over the plates.
I was like, oh god. I mean, it's a good idea because
they don't know how long they're going to be up, they don't know what
they're going to be doing. It could be an up all night many challenge
like Mini Final, so which made sense that they would have to go home
and eat. I wish it was like one of those like TJ. It
would have been like, come on, guys, we're having a big feast.
Just fill them all the way up. And they're like, oh my
god, and he's like, we're doing that challenge right now. Run carry
these boxes yep. Well, they had it in the final of was it
rivals that they had the eating challenge where it was all regular food, but
it was just an obscene amount of it, And it was right after they've
run a bunch and then they have to eat this whole thing of food and
then they have to run some more. Yep, horrible. I'm not sure
which would be worse for me. Yeah, I don't know either. I
don't really want to eat any of the things that they have up there,
But you know, I did notice that both Corey and Zara were housing their
food. Yeah, Corey sat down and just shoveled it in Nourice mentions that
she's a for picky eater. Raven says that she doesn't like spicy things and
she drinks She's trying to drink the spicy surprise. Yeah, why does she
do that? What's another bad choice from Raven? Yeah, this is why
I don't understand. What do you think she's just strong a better? She's
not. She's not at all can handle hialed tabasco sauce. Yeah, and
I think we've talked about this Wellfy, you would prefer to drink things.
I would prefer to eat things, Carl, And where are you at on
this on this meter. If you had to eat one of these things,
if you could pick any of the dishes from from that episode, which would
you think I'd probably rather eat? I think I would too. I know
I would for sure. Yeah, just because the thing that I always go
back to is the horn of blood that set had to drink. Yeah.
I mean it's a it's a spectacular scene, but I don't think I could
get that to go down my gullet. See, if you're able to do
it right, you could bypass all your taste butts. Yeah, but I
can't take shots, let alone try and get that like to hit the back
of my throat and you go down. Don't do don't do a Wolfie,
don't do it. Don't do it, Okay, don't do it. Kay
wants to know it. I'm just trying to bring some sanity back to the
show. I know where I think you might have been going there, Tim,
But no, no, no, no, no no. Uh.
Kay wants to know if I could win an eating challenge. No, I
know I couldn't. The drinking of the stuff would be the worst, for
sure, I would. I don't think I could do that spicy shake or
whatever the fuck they call that thing. Yeah, I don't know that I
could do. I mean, I might be able to do hey, don't
stop parking. I might be able to do that one. But like the
the fish smoothies they've had in previous seasons or the blood, I don't think
I could do either of those. I don't think so either. No,
but dry chewy things, I think I could. I don't think that that's
a big issue to me. Brains. I think I could just eat those.
Yeah, like I could. I could probably deal with soups because you're
it's it's not it's a liquid, but it's not like I don't know,
it feels like something that you can still kind of chew. Yeah, I
don't know. Yeah, I did notice that awesome when he threw up at
one point time he threw up directly back onto the plate that he was it's
lovely, which was no, thank you. That guy's just the worst.
Everything he says and does is annoying to me. Yes, Sam TJ's is
just sitting there laughing. Ultimately it ends up being James, Mariah, Corey,
and Colleen, which they all, I mean, they all did a
pretty stellar job at eating their food, but they all won. Yeah,
which was the only way to save all four of them because they were definitely
the four that were the bottom of the list. Yeah, I was disappointed
in this eating challenge. I normally love an eating challenge. This was miss
seeing the levity that I love from eating challenges. Really, yeah, I
feel like we didn't have like the goofy music that is sometimes playing. We
didn't have like you know it's it's usually like really it's like synced the music.
The vomiting is like part of the thing, and this was just sort
of I just got nothing out of it. I didn't laugh once, and
all these vomits not once. Yeah, K mentions Corey. Corey is one
of the highlights of Eating challenges. Without Corey, that's the point. Pretty
spectacular vomiting. Yeah, but I totally thought that you would have been all
about this one. There was a lot of vomiting this season. Can't even
pull out a vomit montage for me that that I enjoy. I don't know,
I feel like I'm an easy to please guy. That's it's missing every
mark for me, Like play some fucking circus music behind it, and I
would have probably really enjoyed it. But no, taken a little too seriously,
MTV. Well, TJ seemed to enjoy it. Yeah, but he
seems to always just enjoy all of those chills just cause havoc with the challengers.
So he does allude to there being more eating challenges or potentially stages of
the final. Oh I didn't catch that. What do you say? Yeah?
He mentioned something along the lines of like, if you're not like,
you need to do better on eating things because if you're not able to,
you're definitely not going to finish my final, something along those words. All
right, So I don't know if it's a we have an eating challenge in
the final, or if there's something else before it. Okay, there's a
chance, a chance for them to redeem their their vomit montage for you.
The next eating challenge will be consuming the vomit that they threw up this eating
challenge. Gross? About that level up, MTV? Let's see it gross?
You can eat your own would you rather eat your own or somebody immediately?
But now I don't know, no, no, no, if you
could reheat it? Oh my god, stop, Okay, all right,
I'm done, all right. So he says that they have to nominate a
woman the only two names that are being thrown around are Berna and Raven,
and ultimately Raven is the one who gets picked picked and she is pissed.
But it was three out of four, Like I got overruled. It doesn't
matter, It doesn't matter. You should have a stronger voice, have the
boys. She was so up in arms about it, Like they go back
to the house and she's still up in arms about it. She's she's pissed.
Which at some point there's a shot of us off who's just like,
you know, when you get nominated like this, you just gotta go in.
You just got to go in and and you know, prove it,
you got to do it. And I'm like, didn't you throw a fit
like a couple of weeks ago somebody. Yeah, he's a total I don't
that fucking guy. I'm done with him. Done. Yeah, I'm not
a fan of his. So we're back at the house and we get,
you know, all the different montages. We get one of Hirasio teaching Nouris
how to do soccer ball tricks. Well, it's another thing like ed with
the karate. It's it's clearly a producer saying like Harasio, go do this,
and then it's like there that was so awkward watching them. Yeah,
well, and I think it's also they're doing it because they're setting up that's
like the later discussion of him doing something for eight months. They don't actually
say what it is, but he wasn't he playing soccer for like Mexico or
Chile or something like that, So he was going to go do that for
the next however long. So this was just a way to be like,
hey, look at this professional soccer player we have. Yeah, it was
stupid. Yeah, some exaltant show. I don't know what that is.
What that is either. We also get a lot of scenes of Berna and
Zara's name being thrown out by everybody. But go ahead, I was gonna
say, Berna is rubbing everybody the wrong way. We've seen that every episode
so far. Where's why is Zara? Why is being brought up? I
haven't She's been sort of non existent, and now all of a sudden,
the focus. I think they've they've brought her up a lot this season about
not wanting to run a final with her because because she's she's got the endurance
and she's she seems to be someone who would be a real contender missed out.
She only missed out on winning the last season or what it was it
World Champions maybe it was or was it UK? She only missed out on
I think it was UK, like barely missed out on winning UK. And
I don't know if she noticed him. She only says twenty times this episode.
She also has the most challenge wins in the house, which most of
these challenge winds are group wins, which they're still wins, but I feel
like they're waited a little bit differently. Yeah they should be, yeah,
because it's not just you doing your thing or you and your partner doing your
thing. So whatever. But then we move on to Wolfy's ex wife's favorite
time. Sorry, well something about uh telling me I'm a piece of shit
or something. No, we a themed party night. We haven't seen one
of these in like two or three seasons anything. I've never heard these called
an ABC party. But that's clever. I like that something those young uns
do. Yeah, I've heard of anything but close parties. There were ABC
parties. There were stop light parties, like where you depending on if you
your relationship status, you're you wear red if you're taken yellow, if you're
kind of available in green if you are. Yeah, there are a few
different themes like that, but we had one you've never been doing anything but
clothes party? Will you have? I have? You're fun? Okay,
we get we get a shot of Corey wearing Callum's hamper as a dress just
to suck up to Michelle, which I don't know. I have feelings about
it. It was just weird about Corey. Well, yeah, about him
doing it so he could suck up to Michelle. That was It was odd
that that was his reasoning. Yeah, he's a weird person, that Corey.
Yeah, like, if you've made it good, if you are back
in the fold and you've righted all your wrongs, that sort of things.
But why are you sucking up to her even more? Yep? I agree.
Whatever. We get a shout of James calling Mariah his challenge Wysey gross,
super gross. We also get Nurice and Hrossio's first kid. Oh my
god, it was so touching. I cared so much. I thought you
my Jim. I mentioned earlier how all they did was hold hands and stuff
all the time. Yeah, like Rossio said that he was taking it so
I didn't realize they were taking it that slow. Yeah a kiss. Yeah,
you're both in your twenties living in the same house, like with nothing
else to do. Yeah, and just gorgeous specimens of of human physicality.
Yes. The problem is, which we'll find out later, is feelings get
involved bar who needs that. That's why Tim has expelled all feelings from his
personality. We don't need any of those feelings. Yep. We get multiple
shots of Michelle talking about Laurel, which I found very strange because we haven't
had this so far of the season where they start talking about the potential champion
that would be coming in this early in the game, so it made it
real obvious who the champion was going to be. Yep. But they didn't
fool me. I knew that this was going to be something with no payoff.
I knew it. They've they fooled me enough this season they tease these
things, and now I'm just like, I know Laura's not gonna call it,
Michelle, I know it's not gonna happen. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, I knew that that wasn't going to have any payoffs. But like
they're going to build it up and build it up and build it up like
it would be. It would have been awesome to see. Yeah, Nope,
scattered up. Yep. We get Berna talking in circles again and just
annoying everybody, especially we I don't know if we're there yet, but people
are hanging out in their beds with Yeah, that's that's that's We're almost there.
Before that we get it. We get a talk between Zara and Raven
that lasts for like a solid two minutes of screen time, which is a
just insanely long for a screen time conversation. And what did they I don't
even remember that. What did they talk about? It was it was Zara's
It was her talking about how her name has been thrown out there. But
they both really strong and ultimately it ends up coming out like the ending of
it ends up being the they're now each other's number ones, which is really
weird to me. One of them is going to go home probably no,
Tzara says, if we both come back, we should be each other's number
one. Oh okay, all right, that makes a little more sense then,
Okay, but it's still like you, Raven, you were turning on
your whole alliance right now, like just because you got thrown in by a
few people who aren't really on your alliance, and you're going to turn on
everybody else to put someone from the opposite alliance as your number one. Raven
did that in the first couple episodes of the show. I don't know how
she did take an alliance this whole time. Yeah, that's true. But
she also had a lot to say last week when when Mariah was trying to
go back for James a hypocrite. Yeah, that's true. I try to
forget that every week. It doesn't work as well. But yeah, we
Michelle is really spinning into a Michelle down. They we had lots of more
talk about Laurel, even though she's not even there. And yeah, and
then this is when we get to Narice and Harrassio were laying in bed and
they're talking. He tells her that he's gonna be gone for eight months and
she doesn't know if this is worth it because of that, and then they're
going to potentially have to do long distance for that time. And they're laying
there, you know, doing their thing, and then Berna comes in and
shit's all over. I don't even understand what her deal was. She didn't
want to mess it around and was that her room too? M mh.
So she just was not comfortable with them messing around in her room. Well,
she's like, don't even do it while I'll try to sleep. I
can't stand all that sound. I mean I get I kind of get that,
don't you though, I mean, I get up at the same time,
you're you're sharing a room with three other people, and you could get
up and go somewhere else if you don't want to listen to it. Yeah,
But then on top of that, she doesn't just do it to them,
she does it to other people too. I know that was the other's
a Raven and Emmanuel because she thought Emmanuel had a girlfriend and so Raven shouldn't
be messing with Well, well, either way, that's that's not Burna's call
to make for a Raven and a man like I don't know. It was
just very weird. It was a very weird thing. Yeah, she cock
blocked the ship out of everybody. Yeah. Yeah, it was a very
bizarre. It's like if she's not getting the love, then she doesn't want
anybody else to have it. Yes, I hate I hate her. I
hate her. I know the type of person she is I would not be
able to tolerate dealing with her for any amount of time at all, tolerator
on the podcast or on the on the TV screens. I can't even talk
about her. I'm like getting angry talking about her. She's she's just awful.
Come on, Tim, get real passionated by I mean, I let
loose last week. You think I'm done? You ever wanted to punch a
challenger in the face? Always always Josh, Josh, number one, Burna,
Burna might be number two. Berna is up there and every time she's
on screen, I'm just like, oh, fuck her, go away,
I don't know, in the face multiple times this season at the Island will
forever always be that, like that number one spot? Yeah, I get
that wife. Who do you want to punch Wolfe? Well, it's nobody
that's been on the challenge On the second Real World New Orleans. The one
night was on. Oh yeah, there was this kid Ryan that was on
it who was a fucking weirdo. It would sit in bed and blow dry
himself, not because he needed to dry off, he's just like the way
it feels like it felt like the warmth and stuff, and he was a
complete dick. Everybody, wait, is this the same Ryan that was supposed
to be LeRoy's partner and then ended up punching somebody? That's right, that
was Adam. That was the wrong season. This kid, he was like,
he looked like a blonde version of Steve on Stranger Things. Mm hmm
Steve the Hair, Steve the Hair Harrington and uh he because he was on
the same season as Preston and night him pressed and got into it about something.
Oh, that's right, because Leroy was for some reason, I had
I had Leroy and instead of pressed on LeRoy's from Vegas never mind, So
they had something big and then Ryan ended up getting either I think quit like
I think you just went, but then he had to come back to do
like uh intro shots and stuff. So it was like super awkward. But
the kid was so fucking annoying that I was so angry every time that I'm
just like, I just want to fucking punch this kid. Yeah, Jamie
brings up. He put Preston's toothbrush and his ass and didn't tell him put
it back for Preston to use, and they let him stay on the show.
Yeah, I don't know, it was it was the thing. I
just remember being so aggravated with that kid that I legit was like, there's
not many people I purposely want to punch this kid does want all right?
Yeah that uh no, thank you, no, thank you. He left,
they got to the mound. I forget. I don't remember a picture
of him. Mmmm. Well we have moved on to deliberation. Yeah,
that is Laurel. Laurel. Well, we started out deliberation with Raven doing
her little spiel. She starts it by saying that she can believe that she's
in this position and immediately follows it up with I saw this coming. You
can't that. You can't be both of those things at the same time.
Everyone on this show is so stupid. They're just also dumb. It just
oh god, I don't I don't understand how they function a lot of the
time. Don't try, don't try. You're just gonna drive yourself. You're
gonna drive yourself insane. Oh goodness. She Yeah, I really don't like
her. I really don't like Raven. She knows the shit out of me.
Same, I don't like anybody on this season. Yeah, And deliberation
goes really fast because before Raven is even done speaking. Uh, Zara puts
her hand ups and can I say something? Can I say something? I'm
voting myself in the Are you doing the fuck you do? I don't understand
these? Do you vote yourself in? Well? So she was going to
go in anyway, right, So why why not a decent chance that that
it could have been Burna. There were enough people that there could have been
a really, a really split vote between the two of them. I don't
know. They've done this alre this season already where we think it's kind of
split, but then when they start voting, it's not split at all.
I guess it's true. If Zara knew this was her like whatever, I
don't, I mean, I guess in a way, make them say your
name and know who's on your side and who's not. But on the other
hand, like, yeah, I mean I I on the the west side
of this of make them say it, go through it, and make them
all say it. Know where you stand with each individual person, because when
she does this, she gives everybody an out, all of her, all
of her people on her alliance, and all the people who weren't. And
she knows the people she no longer knows if people who were on the fence
were actually going to vote for or not, right, I don't know.
It's yeah, yeah, I see it. I can It's ridiculous. I
can see both sides. If she's there and she doesn't want to make any
more enemies and she knows she's gonna go in any way, and you know,
she knows she didn't have an alliance, there's nothing wrong with just claiming
it, and then maybe that gives you a slight benefit or advantage. I
don't know, but I don't have a problem with it. I have more
of a problem with a soft having a problem with it because fuck us off.
So in his little thing where he's like, oh, she volunteered herself
and that's great, but you were gonna go in anyway, so it doesn't
count. It's like you suck, asof you just suck. Yeah, I
mean being that he bitched and moaned about the fact that he was being voted
in a few weeks ago, Like yeah, you have never him to talk,
man. Yeah, he bitched a moan and then he pretended like it
was an honor and like he wanted to do it, but you could tell
you didn't really want it. It's just everything about that guy's full of shit.
He's just full of shit. Yep, I completely agree with that.
Here's a here's a question to bring it, bring it back to what I
was talking about, what was important? On readit, someone asked the question
who was worse, Adam from Las Vegas or Ryan from New Orleans. People
were wondering what was the answer. Well, the only thing that I know
about Ryan is what you just told me. And the only thing that I
know about Adam is that he started a fight the very first night he was
in the house and got also got he also got kicked off his season in
the real world as well. Oh did he really all right? And Nanny
was obsessed with him? Doesn't surprise me. She's obsessed with red flags.
He got he got kicked off and had to stay in a hotel across the
street, and she would go visit him. Still, Oh christni was she
going to do her laundry? Just going to do something? So call back
to her and Johnny Banana screwing in the Redemption House. Okay, all right,
then who goes? You? Guys? Remember this the season that the
season that the two of them were partnered, they were on what was it?
I think, yeah, yeah, And they came back at the very
end they would go do laundry because he had a girlfriend, and so they
called it to do laundry. Yeah, surprise, surprise. Well, and
speaking of cheating, Kay asked the question of Hey, Carlan, how do
you feel about Raven flirting with Emmanuel knowing that he had a girlfriend. I
mean, she didn't just flirt with him and he fucking run with a bunch
of people on that show. I think it's I mean, I don't.
I don't mess with people who have who are in relationships or are married or
anything like, why would you do that? I think she's a I would
argue it's the person who's in the relationships responsibility. No, I agree to
cut that off. Yeah, I agree, it is the person who's in
the relationship's responsibility. But at the same time, if you know that they're
in a relationship, maybe just say, hey, yeah, go fuck around
with someone who's not currently So who's more wrong Raven or Berna. Berna is
sticking her nose where he doesn't belong and being judgy and preachy versus enabling a
cheater of them. They're both terrible people. It's perfect acceptable. I hate
them both too, all right, with them both both in the elimination and
then surprise, you're both going home and we'll bring in his girlfriend. T
J's like, we don't put up a cheating around here. All three is
gone. Yeah, I mean if they didn't put up cheat it's put up
a cheating in the Challenge House, then like half the cast every season would
be gone. It'd make a very boring show. Yeah, yeah, because
I mean it's like where deliberation we are. We are actually at elimination,
walking in the Yeah, we're just cruising through this yet again, So Raven
mentions yet again that she is a strong player. I still don't understand what
she's thinking. And then Laurel walks out and everybody goes excited. It's all
excited and goes absolutely nuts for her, except yeah, Michelle is having a
she's having a conniption up there. I did like Michelle was genuinely nervous and
scared when she was up there, right, she would not shut up.
I know, Like Laurel comes in and she starts talking and cannot shut her
out. Yeah, she is so terrified that she just talking. I love
it, do we know Laura's elimination record, Yes, she is. She
has done seven challenges, she has made it to four finals and she's only
one once. Okay, but elimination record, oh, elimination man, No,
I do not have that. I don't. I don't think it's that
good. Well, Corey says, she's only lost to three people. I
know she lost to Camilla eleven and three. Case says eleven and three,
okay, good, that's really good because she lost to Natalie, she lost
to Camilla, and now she's lost to Raven. Yeah, and I think
she threw Camilla, by the way, I think she let Camilla win that
one one hundred percent. She threw Camilla. Yeah, so in a way,
it's twelve and two. Yeah. She also lost to Jordan and Aissa
Kay says okay, oh, then she has that must have been a partner,
a partnered one or something. Oh if you count this, it's four.
Okay, so eleven and four with this one because I'm just like,
I feel like everybody's so, oh my god, it's Laurel. And then
I'm just like, I don't know, does she have the Durella effect where
she's come back and lost an elimination so many times now that I'm just like,
Eh, I mean, I guess it's only four, so I mean
she's pretty. Oh. I was gonna say I had the opposite impression when
when he said she's one set, she's been on seven seasons. I was
like, that can't be right. She just has such a presence on the
show. I thought it was fifteen or you know, way more than that.
Seven seems low. I mean, I bet that's I bet Corey has
been on more and Nelson, you know what I mean. For I think
she's just she's just come in the house and been such an asshole. Yeah,
and such a presence. Yes, she's always a presence and she always
kicks ass and she always makes it really far. So yes, I think
she deserves every a bit of of her Yeah she did. She walked in
and she looks good. Girl is looking fantastic. I still think she's an
asshole. Girls looking good. Yeah, she's scary in the in the in
the in the ring. She is. This is just not her. This
is a bad game to pick for her, But she's terrifying. Are you
scared because of an interview we did she told you how she would hide a
body. Yeah, no, Laura, we we bonded over that. Me
and Laurel, we really connected. Would she hide a stab them with weapons
made of ice? Oh, I've heard that from different people. Yeah,
he was on c S. I so the point that Devil Amanda referenced it
on Twitter because she's like, who is this psychopath? Yeah? Yeah.
It was at the the Grunt Guy event that almost nobody was there. So
yeah, we talked to Laurel for like a long time. Nice all right,
and we bonded over. We both like true crime stuff. Talked a
lot about violent murders. That's great. This is yet another tie into vander
Pump Rules because one of the one of the cast members on vander Pump she
she mentions how she would kill somebody stab them with ice. Yeah, yeah,
yep. Yeah, she comes out. Everybody's super excited. Michelle is
super nervous. She ends up pulling Raven's name. It was very obvious that
she didn't pull the chaos. Yeah, it was flat, Yeah, it
was clear. Yeah yeah, and then I didn't. I didn't. I
didn't care if it was Raven, Like, who cares? I would have
been amused if she pulled the mace and pulled down Michelle. That would have
been fun, but yeah, awesome to see gives a ship. It was
yet another This was like it was another game that kind of an individual,
an individual game played at the same time. Yeah. So, so the
game is called Chain Reaction one. Do you guys want to tell everybody what
the game is? Sure? So you pull a chain through a hook thingy.
The chain is painted in different colored stripes. Once you move that chain
all the way through, you have to line up pegs in the same exact
color order as what was painted on the chain. There you go. Yep.
I didn't realize that the chain was color coded. I thought that there
was a code at the end of the chain, and it wasn't until they
started putting it out. It was like, why why does it matter if
it's in like straight lines? Why is Raven freaking out about it being in
straight lines? And then I realized that it was color codes. Yeah,
oh, okay, that makes more sense. Yep. It seemed weird too.
In Laurel's confessionals, she always seemed a little out of sorts and a
little like, I don't know, she just wasn't sort of as articulate as
she normally is she said kind of weird things in the confessions. Did you
guys get that impression too, Yeah, yeah, she seemed a little off.
Yeah. I hope she's all right, but me too. I wonder
if it was just because they filmed those after everything was done and she'd already
lost, yeah, or I don't know. This was This was the second
week in a row where we got a game that did not play the third
week in a row that we got a game that did not play to the
mercenary strengths. One necessarily played two Raven's strengths either. But if you're going
to have Laurel there, you like Drell, you need something in the sand.
Yeah, yep, this it's just saying the same thing. She would
have been freaking great. We should have had Paul Russell last week in Haulborough
this week. I don't understand why they didn't do it, or or yeah,
I think what we need. We need these challenges to be going head
to head, like battling somebody directly, these things where it's like we're doing
the same thing at the same time on different parts of the state. It's
like it's a timed event. It's nothing like I want to see them battling
for something, and you know what I mean, Raven made the point.
Raven even said it, like, this is a fair game because it's a
challenge, it's a it's a puzzle. Yeah, we're not going in the
sand. It's like, that's not the point of this. Yeah, we
don't need a fair game. I want to see some champs kick some ass.
The challenge has never been a fair game. Why is it? Why
are they doing this? Yeah? I really disliked this. It could have
it could have been a fun It could have been a fun elimination to see
I don't know, some other time. It was not the elimination for this
week. They should have done something else. No, this wouldn't find two
of the newbies going against it or just sort of an everyday thing. But
yes, we were waiting for these challengers, like for the champs. We're
waiting for them all episode. That's all we care about, and then they're
giving us the like fucking bullshit elimination like these are. At least with Jordan,
we got to see some endurance. Yeah, we get to see him
play to his strengths and battling against somebody directly against somebody I'm really starting to
worry that for like Kara and CT and is this the only two left?
Oh yeah, Bra, Brad. I'm really worried that for those three they
are going to do more puzzles, Like if if there was a puzzle for
Brad, Brad is screwed. Oh my god, his eyes. He's there
trying to do math and it's never gonna work. I mean it just I'm
really worried that they're going to start They're going to pull in puzzles for those
three, and that's not why we watched the show. Yep. Agreed,
very disappointing, really frustrating. Come on in too, I mean ultimately.
Yeah, So the game goes. Laurel calls for a check. First,
doesn't get it right, but right before she calls for a check, she
thinks that she's missing a peg and she pulls a Well, there isn't another
peg. I didn't I can't do anything. There's no other peg. It's
not my fault. Yeah, it's not my fault. And everybody's yelling that
it's at her foot. Yeah, such a weird thing. I particularly caught
them it's not my fault thing, was like, that's a weird thing to
say. Laurel pulled a Laurel. She pulled the same move that she pulled
with Ninja Natalie. Yeah, this is bullshit. You guys rigged it.
Yep. And then she found the peg and just put it in like at
the last peg and was like, that must be it down there. I
don't know. It's like, that's not you missed it somewhere else on that
puzzle. I don't know where, and you don't either, but it's not
at the end. I don't know. Really weird, very strange performance,
yeah, Laurel, Yeah, Laurel. I mean I think I have never
been a huge fan of Laurel. She is she's kind of like Johnny to
me, and that she is really good at these kinds of games. But
I fucking hate her. I really dislike that woman. But she's fun to
watch, yeah, but I really dislike her. And the last few times
we've seen her, or at least the last time we saw her with Ninja
Natalie, and then the last game she was in with her partner Jack,
like, she has pulled these like it's not my phone, I didn't do
anything wrong type of moves, and I guess it's kind of always been her,
but oh, she's just so aggravating. It feels more obvious as it's
getting as she's getting older too. You know, you expect people in their
twenties to you know, whate is me. That's not fair when you're a
professional, Like she's a veterinarian now right, Like she's a doctor, she's
a professional person in her thirties or you know, it's like, God,
I don't know if she'd i'd want to have her raise my vet. She
seems like she drowns cats. Yikes. Yeah, she seems like the kind
of person that like, Yeah, I just I don't know if i'd want
to meet her in a professional setting. Kay brings up that Laurel is not
used to losing. No, she's definitely not. She does not know how
to lose with grace at all, in any way, shape or form.
It does get mentioned that, uh, oh Tim's dying. No, I'm
good. A little spit went down there on pipe. Oh hate it when
that happens. Yeah, yeah, it's the worst. You would think that
your body knows how to work itself in your forties, but terrible. Yeah,
we do get the mention that Raven's nickname is Dori because she's she's not
the brightest crown in the box and can't remember ship. It's good for her,
pretty entertaining. Yep. Yeah, ultimately Raven ends up winning, that's
good. This is gonna go to her head. Mm hmm. Yep,
she's gonna take immediately. I think it immediately went to her head. Like
people were immediately saying, you just beat Laurel. You you took out one
of the best players in the game. Yeah, only Champ, but Laurel.
Yeah. I I yes, she beat Laurel, But I don't feel
like this was a real win against Laurel. This was got an asterisk next
to it, Like I'm not gonna take it away from Raven, but I
just hope it doesn't go to her head and she doesn't like the pun.
But like, rest on her Laurels after this, you know, it's just
like you won, Like good for you, Ravin, you beat her,
but like this was not a real elimination against a real No, like if
you if you were really gonna beat Laurel, you need to meat Laurel in
the sand. Yeah, So just temper that a little bit and just be
proud of yourself, but don't let it go to your head. But I
know she's going to Oh yeah, absolutely, it's gonna happen like next episode.
They're going to be multiple references to it, guaranteed. Yeah, all
right, Well, the chatmom is is begging me to rate the episode,
just begging me relentlessly. Zero zero. This is a zero episode. There's
no point to watch this episode, last one too. There you don't You
could skip the last two episodes and you're in the same place in the game.
Nothing happened, no one goes home, no money is lost. It's
so frustrated's super aggravating to watch these episodes. It's it really is for me.
So yes, zero. I'm just I'm very disappointed when the game does
not move forward at all. I agree with that, yep, same reason
I hate Redemption Houses. It's just like it just pauses the game. It's
just a way to drag out these seasons forever. I don't mind the Redemption
House. People are taken out and they don't come back until the very end.
One round, one round. It's a single round of it. Yeah,
I'm I don't mind that, But if it's multiple round like the season
that Natalie and Polly were in, Yeah, that was some bullshit. Yep,
they lost like four times and still made it to the final. I
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the right. This is there. It is