Welcome to Buns and Banter, a podcast buy work Busties for work Busties.
Hey, I'm Lauren and I'm Alie. We're both morning show hosts for I
Heartmedia. We're both millennials, and we're both trying to figure out how to
build the live sweet dream about dating, marriage, career, career and being
a mom, how to get through a week without crying. Welcome to Buns
and Banter. We're glad you're here. Good side, No, like,
what was side? Do you feel comfortable on? I feel comfortable here.
We could mix it up, we can mix it up. Yes, yes,
in the studio, we don't have this problem because it's just the microphones
are where they are. They are where they and they're in terrible spots most
of the time. Yeah, and in here, I mean the options are
unlimited, unlimited, So maybe not unlimited. I don't know if i'd necessarily
want to show off the windows that I can only assume have some kind of
crazy glue and tape stuck on them. Yeah, that's a situation that looks
like crime scene tape left over, you know, So maybe that end of
the room, Yeah, stays behind the scenes. Yeah, so we've talked
about this quite a few times. This is going to be an adjustment for
learning experience because I want to talk to you, but I also like how
I know, how often do I check back in with the camera. So
if you if you're listening to the podcast right now and you're not watching it,
the podcast is now available in video form. Yeah, the visually pleasing
side of Buns and banter m. We look visually pleasing today. I'm glad
we both did buns me too. Did you wake up or extra la to
try to look nice? Because I did? I did you look gorgeous?
And I tried to do my hair this morning and it just didn't work out.
I wanted to do a half up, half down bun oh, and
it just wasn't working for me today. And sometimes you just gotta say effitt,
we're putting it all up. So that's what we did. Yeah,
this is um let me see day six, day six of this loveliness,
so it was not going to be worn down. That is impressive to wash
night tonight. So impressive, Well, impressive, that's a that's a strong
word for it. I mean I think people have a lot of I've had
a very small amount of my followers that notice when I post my elevator picks
in the morning, and they will be the first to call out and be
like, oh hat today. Didn't wash your hair, did you? And
I'm like, I don't know if I want that as my legacy. I
love a hat, I love it up, but it is usually in the
days where I really need to wash my hair. Yeah. Same, I'm
not wearing I mean, I like the hats that I wear. You have
great hats, but I'm not going to put a hat on my clean head.
So we're doing it. We're doing We're doing it. That this episode
is all about, I think fair to say, the hard work we're putting
into this podcast, how important it is to us. Yeah, how good
we've been feeling connecting with so many new people because of it, And then
we wanted to take this next step, and so we're doing it. You're
doing the damn thing like you said we are, And I just got tired
of talking about it. And it's certainly not perfect. We have some things
on the list that we want to do to sort of make it a little
bit more visually interesting and make it a little bit more buns and banter.
Yes, and a little bit less. Iheartread and Gray and Ship Lab.
Yeah, which is like cool for an office, but just like maybe not
the vibe for our podcast, because that's like we've talked a ton about that,
you know, the vibe we're looking for. And I know, I
mean, I know my listeners and I'm sure yours are too. Love to
give advice that we always enjoy. We do. So you know, if
there's something that you guys have seen or that you really enjoy from podcasts you
watched, like, oh, float us some advice, blow us, some
idea is yeah, let us know if there are podcasts that you strictly will
only watch and you don't listen to. Yeah, and we I mean I
love to look at other what other people are doing and see if I like
it and if it works for them, and so we're into it. So
you know, send us a message or whatever, because right now, my
only ideas are all pink, right yeah, because obviously I feel like that's
very much a vibe. It is good. Yeah, that's good. And
I love your idea of maybe incorporating some merch soon, right. Yeah,
this is so fun and so new for us, and I feel like we're
very much stepping out of a comfort zone. Yeah, because we are not
those people. We've never been Like I would never in a millionaires think of
like, oh I should have merch Self promotion is very very difficult for me
because it feels so egotistical when it comes to promoting myself. When I watch
other people execute self promotion, I'm like, do your thing, Like,
yes, that's what you have to do, Like, you got to get
the word out there, especially if you know you enjoy what you're doing and
you have a product that you're proud of, Like do that. But I
just get so why do I get so nervous and I don't know, scared.
I think I have a fear of being seen Probably me too, I
think we do. I just have so many levels of anxiety. I never
know which one I'm going to pop out on at any given day. Yeah,
And I'm like, WHOA self self promotion? Just we're going to do
it together. We're doing it together. It's less scary when you have a
buddy, it is, and we hype each other up. We do.
And if we're the only two that we're going to watch this, that's fine,
that's fine. I'm gonna look at it. And be like you look
good. We look we're killing it. Yeah, for the two of us,
it's amazing. I think we should reset now that we have a video
element. I think we should reset why the podcast is called Bunsen Banter and
also what we get up to. I liked this what we get up to
see, These are the things you're missing when you're only listening and not watching.
She just did the most like maniacal. You're making a great like happy
villain. Yeah. So Ali and I we've been working at I Heard together
for over a decade. Over a decade. Yeah, that's crazy. And
you know we've we're kind of like the only two women at this point in
morning shows, you know, on our on our studio floor, and we've
just naturally gotten super tight, I think. But we also come from very
different life spaces right now. Yeah, totally, what's your life space?
I am married with two kids of a five year old and a two year
old. But I still get it. You still I still get it,
you know, like I don't love the whole Oh you're a mom. Oh
so you like don't do things anymore? For your information, I was at
the club in Grand Haven like two months ago and I got home at like
two thirty in the morning. Yeah you did, paid for it for the
next five days, right, but worth it. Yeah, whereas you,
I am a single, crazy dog lady in my early thirties and basically I
just want to sell all my possessions right now and refurnish my house. Literally,
that's all I want to do right now. I think the furniture house
is beautiful. I love creeping on you in your videos, so not to
be I think you have a beautiful bedroom. Thank you. You're just very
good at decor. Oh, thank you so much. I feel like I
suck at it. But see two very different thing. I don't even try
to decorate because at any given moment there will be some kind of fluid on
it. All of my Like I feel like I'm an old woman because so
much of my furniture is covered, like not in plastic, but like I
have a couch cover that I bought online, and I have a blanket over
my nice new fabric chair. It's like really just my like my husband's leather
recline where I'm like, well, yeah, somebody pukes or blades on that,
It's easily clean, can wipe that off. Everything else though, I
just feel like I wonder when that changes, When do your kids get old
enough for you can have nice things Again, I don't think ever, Boom,
I don't think ever because I don't have kids. I have a dog.
Yeah, and my furniture is also covered in seventy five blankets because she
sheds, and it's just it's it's too much. And you know what it's
funny is that I remember when I bought my house. I was talking to
my co host Matt and I was asking him because he had two or three
dogs at the time. Yeah, I was asking him about couches and what
he has and his dogs because I was worried about the shedding with fran And
I was like, I think I'm gonna get a leather couch. He was
like, oh, I wouldn't get leather because their nails will scratch it and
puncture it. I would get probably something like fabricy, but like a tight
weave so that the hair can't get in there. So that's what I got.
Smart. Yeah, yeah, no, oh spoiler, it is not
a good situation. And now he has since purchased himself a leather couch and
with his dogs, and I'm not mad about it, but I'm like,
mmm, mmmm, of course looks great. And now I feel like I'm
stuck with this couch until it, literally, yeah, is worn down to
the threads. Because furniture is hard to bring yourself to buy. I feel
it's just like expensive stuff when you want it nice. And I was very
much a I don't know what kind of phase I was in, but I
just I knew that I was going to get my couch from West elm oh
I got it on sale. I got it on sale, but I lost
it. I wouldn't repurchase a couch from there, really, I wouldn't.
I really wouldn't. Hot hot tip on the like I like that. I
love the that stuff. Though. Yeah, when you say, like,
hey, guys, or at least that couch in particular, I would not
repurchase. I think that there are better I think that there are better options.
I so it's interesting, like advice you get as like a dog mom
versus advice I've gotten as a kid mom. It's very rarely positive. It
feels like every single person who has ever had a kid, or even those
without kids but they've had kids in their lives, just love to save the
horror stories for advice, and I'm like, I've got my five year old,
my two year old now, and we could be talking about like,
oh my gosh, when can you have nice things again? And without fail?
Someone will be like, huh never, and you think it's bad now,
I just wait, but like that, but I get that. Then
when they go on, they go I mean, wait until they're teenagers and
they're coming home hit Someone tell me, well, at least little kids can't
get caught underage drinking on school property and then have to be tethered for a
year and a half. I'm like, true, I guess I should savor
these moments. Like the advice you get as a human parent is never anything
other than do you want to hear that crazy my kids put me through?
Yeah, maybe you get that with a dog, but I didn't. I
have two dogs that I never got the kind of advice I get from weird
humans. I don't get horror stories from people. I just get people telling
you that you're doing everything wrong. You're just you're doing everything wrong, Especially
because fran is a special girl. She's got some quirks, she's reactive,
aggressive. So we've done a lot of training with different trainers and stuff,
and I swear every time I post like a related video about her training or
like what we're working on or whatever, there's always five or six people.
I posted a video of her eating a bone one day and someone was like,
those are really bad for her, and I was just I get it.
When people know something or think they know something, like they want to
share that knowledge. And I truly have to believe that those people are not
meaning to make you feel like an idiot or make you feel bad. I
truly just feel like they are trying to share the information and they just don't
know how to do that in an appropriate way. There it is. That's
what I'm going to tell myself, you know. Yeah, I just that's
I have to do. You wish you could tell them that though, like,
oh, I see that the positive intent was there, but you completely
left it up. Yeah, but that's that's the Internet is so hard,
because it's it's not what you say, it's how you say it. And
you don't know how someone is saying something because you read the comment and interpret
their tone of voice or right their body language or whatever, like you don't
actually have them in front of you. And this could have been the nicest
person in the world saying, oh, those are not good for them.
Yeah, but you read it, but I was like, of course I
read it as those are so bad for them, you know. Oh,
I'm so glad we're getting into warmer weather because I cannot tell you the comments
and any parent will tell you this. They're kids not wearing a coat in
cold weather. Oh my ever loving the Lord like it's just And I follow
so many moms on my Instagram, I TikTok and stuff that have just they
do that thing where they're walking around holding the coat Like I tried, y'all.
I tried here, it is here, there she is, I have
it with me. She doesn't want it on back the f off. I
mean, just how many times I've taken because kids aren't supposed to wear coats
and car seats and it doesn't have kids yet, you're not supposed to have
coats on them in the car seat. There's a really jarring video where they
show you what happens with crash test dummies if your kid has like a puffy
coat on so the car seat can't be tightened all the way. The stuff
of nightmares. Okay, don't want coats in the car seat, No coats
in the car seat. But then you got to like take the kid out
of the car seat. You know you're going to mir or whatever. Oh.
This woman passed me once. I had just pulled my daughter out,
and she was like, who bit nippy for short sleeves? And it was
just one of those days. It was one of those days, and I'd
had a day and I looked at her and I was like, ma'am,
her left thigh is still in the car. Her coat is right here.
I am putting it on her for my walk into the grocery store. Thanks
so much for your concern. She obviously didn't know that. She obviously was
at an age where she she was some old curmudge. She didn't have grandkids
yet or I'm being ages, but she was an old biddy. She didn't
know that you had to wear her you couldn't wear coats in the car seat,
though, because that's if you knew. If she knew that you couldn't
wear coats in the car seat, you're not saying that if you're watching someone
get their kid out of the car. Yeah, I like to think that.
I think she would have said it no matter and just the way she
didn't like walk and buy with her cart and it's broken wheel. You know,
I judged her for that too. You know, if the cart's got
a broken wheel, put it back, grab any one man. But she
just had to. I bet she doesn't take her car back. Oh,
I bet she definitely does not put her cart back. That's a deal breaker
for me. Yeah, that made me feel good to hear that. If
I'm if I am considering someone in a romantic way and there they don't put
their car back in the cart, Correll, you may as well have just
called your waitress a cursword or something. I don't know, Like that's as
bad as like not tipping well or snapping for the tracks. Can't can't do
it? Have you ever put someone's cart back in front of them? Oh?
I do it all the time. I'll wait for them to like get
in their car and they'll take it and like make sure I'm like walking behind
their cars they can't pull out, Like, don't worry, she's taking your
cart back like God intended. I was at flower Land over the weekend getting
some stuff, and it stresses me out there because they don't have actual metal
corrals where you go up with a card back. You just have signs that
say leave your cart in this area. Yeah, and that it's kind of
like Cosco. It's just a big corral and you're like, I gotta line
them up. I'll line them up. I feel bad. I can't do
it. Oh my. The other consistent theme in this podcast is that Alie
and I are just really great people. I mean I think most of it
is never not me, not you, not us. We think we're great.
Apparently other people do not think that I'm great. I was really torn
if I was going to share this or not. I have already told you
this. Yeah, Oh got ghosted. I'm so mad about this. Yeah
still yeah. I mean I just talked about him on the podcast. I
believe you had mentioned him. I think I had mentioned him. Yeah,
yeah, this was He lived on the east side of the state. Yeah.
So I mean, like I was driving over there, which it's like
a two hour two and a half hour drive, So I was scheduling like
dates with him when I was going to see my family, and I thought
it was going really well, and I was very optimistic and I was like,
okay, like all right, this is I like this. I'm into
this. Kiss a death I know, I just I know. Whenever I'm
starting to be like, yeah, no, I'm feeling this person, that's
when it's it's over. The end is in sight because we had a great
date and then we're talking about the next time that we're gonna see each other.
I had a wedding in Vegas. He mentioned he was going to do
some traveling for work. I said, okay, I do have like a
weekend in the future. It was Easter at that point, I am coming
home for Easter to see my family. And then I just like never nothing
heard back from him, Like, never heard back at all. So it
was I mean, I'm I'm not surprised because dating, there's not much that
can surprise me being thirty one and like online dating, I feel like I've
seen a few things. I've seen a few things, but you know,
keeps keeps me humble for sure. God, So I thought of you the
other day because I've kind to find this article too. Would you wear something
to let people know you are single? Oh? Did you see this?
So it's it's the one I saw was a ring and this girl was talking
about it, and I think I saw TikTok on it as well, and
she said she was very confident. She was I realized that I'm a really
gorgeous woman. Oh right, it started and I was like, Mariam,
She's like, I realized that I'm probably a really gorgeous woman, and I
am not maybe very approachable. I'm probably intimidating and you know, pretty,
so guys don't necessarily come up to me. And so she has decided to
try and like start this movement that you can wear something to let guy girl
whoever know I'm available and interested, like I'm looking, I'm game, feel
free to come up to me. Would you do that? No, because
I'm gonna tell you I would. I would love to wear something to let
people know like, yes, I'm a mom. No, my life hasn't
ended. Like I just to cut that conversation out entirely, right there would
be great. Yeah, but no, not for you. No, I
don't No, I just don't want to invite any unwanted attention. It's a
bold move into my life. Nor am I ever anywhere where I would be
Oh, like, I'm not out at the bars anymore. That's true.
This this requires that you know, yeah, I will occasionally go out with
my friends or whatever to go get a drink or go grab dinner. But
typically in those spaces, I'm I just want to hang out with my friends,
Okay, I don't want to like cruise for guys. What if we
were in a space full of top tier I'm just I'm just spitballing here,
Like where do you think like the fire department department? I'm sorry, I
have never in my life seen an unattractive fireman. Fire fighter. I'm men,
women, I would love to be rescued, especially by some of Gr's
finalist. I'll be honest with you. I see him in parades. We
lived down the street from one of the firehouses. And I also saw a
TikTok of a woman who went to an air show and she was like,
WHOA, Suddenly I'm going to act very confused, used about what this is
all about. Babe. When did you find service people can explain it to
me. Yeah, there's some spots. Yeah. I saw a guy talking
about how a failed situation ship that he was in. This was on TikTok.
He said, so it's time to go look confused and target again.
Yes, And then a woman commented, don't go to target all of the
women that you want to talk to. Are not at Target, They're at
Low's or home depot looking confused. So you guys are missing each other again.
Oh my, the lumber department at a Lowe's home deepoemonards. I mean,
how a board hasn't just crushed me to death just because I'm like flipping
through like it's magazine. Chris took me once when we were redoing our bathroom.
He's like, what are you doing? I said, oh, I'm
just looking through two by four us. He's like, that's not how any
of this works. So you are absolutely right, that's where that's where they're
at. Yeah. Never, I just don't really ever look my best at
Low's or home depot. I disagree, and I just like I rock that
RBF hard so hard. Well, it's typically like a Saturday morning when you
can go right, That's how it is for me. I'm irritated to be
awake. I don't want to be there listening to things I don't know about,
you know. And then like the tipping of the scales is when Christal
tried to involve me and he's like, babe, do you mind grabbing me
like a Philip's four point two seven? And I'm like, what, why
did you marry? I don't even I just I thought you said that there
was like snacks here. Let's just do what we need to do. I
don't even know. I was just going to watch the kids and make sure
they didn't run off. Yeah. I don't know what that is. Yeah,
I don't know what it holds. Well. The biggest relationship builder ever
was remodeling. Yeah, oh my god, we had to do that bathroom.
I know. I will never forget the definition of the word blush,
babe. Is that dry wall flush against the wall. Yes, but we
didn't known till we drilled it all in oh some words, And I said,
why can't you just cut another piece and stick it in there. It's
like this could end us. I was like, it could, but I
love you and I'm going to go have a glass of wine and come back
and work more. Wow. I mean you guys, you've renovated a bathroom.
You renovated a kitchen. Someone else renovated the kitchen. The bathroom was
really the one and done for us. We didn't divorce, we didn't die,
and that was pre kids, so we still procreated. And you've got
to be in some kind of good space. You know, do you do
that? That's impressive. You and Curse are very solid, very solid.
You know. Yeah, we're okay. If my therapist ever again asks me
if I have healthy examples of relationships gotten, I'm gonna say you and Chris
don't do it. Literally. He attempts to me the other day and we
have to put in all this paperwork for the kids school. It's like that
time right now, which is insane to me. And he was like,
hey, like, I got Will's paperwork all done for kindergarten and Sophia should
be all caught up. And I was like, thank you. I really
appreciate you. I get back up. Yeah, question mark, question mark,
question Oh here we go. Oh it's not what you think. Okay,
No, okay, because I know what I thought was coming. And
he goes, so you're saying that I could fish two days in a row.
And then he sent me a bunch of gifts. He sent me that
cat from Puss in Booth that's like, and then he sent me the Law
and Order gift of Olivia Benson going, it's a long shot, but it's
worth a shot. That's the relationship we have. So so what'd you say?
I was like, that's that's fine. After I looked at the forecast
and realized the next like two weeks it's going to be just terrible. So
after it gets two days fishing, I get girls nights sleep ins. See,
it's all about the give and take, endless gratitude for being the best
wife out there. Yeah, maybe he'll be your cameraman when we finally start
taking feet picks. I thought that though you think you need like a second
shooter for that, you've got your perspective like a wedding. Laura and I
joke about this all the time, but for real, we both saw the
same video on TikTok last week. Yeah, they asked this woman how much
money she made a year, and she said three hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
And they asked her what she did for a living, and she sells
feet picks online. I have feet. I got two of them, all
of the toes still on them. I'm like, seriously going to look into
this. I have you did some googling? We did. We did do
some googling. And the thing is, though, you have to like when
you come up, like you can put in your name how you want it.
To be displayed or whatever. And then some of the different websites we
are seriously considering this, some of the different websites. You have to come
up with like a whole story, like a whole branding situation, like a
like a foot background story, not a background story, but like tell people
about yourself, tell people why you're here, tell people. Wow. I
know. So I'm trying to like think of different because I want to make
something so ridiculous up. Yeah, like the many Walks of Flame. Oh
that's a good one, but yeah, like something kind of punny, something
that that also makes me think it's a reputable site. It's not just anybody
throwing their feet on there. It's someone that's come up with some truly creative
pieces to this. I also think that it's probably harder than we think it
is. I think we have really cute feet. I don't think. Yeah,
but it's got to be because when people talk to us about social media
and they're like, how hard is it? You just post pictures online?
And we're like, let me tell you, it's more effort than you It's
more effort than you realize once you are into it and you start trying to
create content and stuff, And I will say it comes to some people very
very naturally jealous of those people. But I feel like this is probably going
to be more complicated than we think it is. I think you had a
great idea about videos of pedicures. Can you imagine we get in there when
they're doing like the thing on your heel, the pummis, the pummis thank
you. Yeah, I'm gonna have to hit you up for some of those
terms, because I mean, I do think we're actually going to do this
just to see, just to see. It follows the theme of doing the
damn thing. We've talked a lot about feet picks. Let's just do them.
We're coming into our prime. We're gonna have tantos in the summer,
that's true. We can wear the hot colors. Come on. Yeah,
we gotta think of like some con ten pillars though. We can do that,
Oh my god. We can do like water air fire elements, thank
you. You can do like lake feet picks, feed out the car picks
for air. We can do like a little bomb fire picks. I know,
that's a great one. Those are some strong pillars. Some people are
gonna be like water feet Wow, sign me up. And let me become
a subscriber. Yeah. My worst fear though, is that like down the
road, you're applying for like your ultimate dream job, and they google your
name and like that comes up and they're like what the what is this about?
And you're like, oh, it's just a little side hustle. And
when they ask us about it, we can discuss our commitment to finishing a
project. Well, that's some good spin commit mint. And maybe it's a
job that requires you on your feet all day. Wouldn't you want someone that
takes extra good care of their feet and has wicked amounts of energy because that's
their livelihood. It's been it all day. Baby, they're gonna love feat
by the end. That shouldn't hold us back. Okay, our feet are
getting out there. Yeah, are you going to have your own? Or
are we going to do this together? And like offer we could split it?
Oh you know that could be a good little pillar. Interesting. Uh
huh. I've got some weird images popping into my mind right now. And
what would think you would do? Well? Okay, so I'd like to
hear these maybe like after this though, right, because maybe we should talk
about it before we go live with it. But wouldn't you use the social
media following that you've already accumulated, Like, would you use your same user
name as you do on Instagram? You would use a different user name and
start from scratch. Yeah, I feel like you'd. I think I think
Feet would gather a following pretty quick if what I've heard is true in the
feet world? Would you I don't know. That's what I was thinking about
when I was looking at these websites. You can pick your user name.
It can be whatever you want. Wow, as long as it's available.
Of course, of course I wouldn't want to, you know, just blatantly
copy someone's use your name. But I also feel like I need to do
a little research. I'd want something like but creative, like fo cute?
Yeah yeah, like something a little punny, but like something kind of cheeky.
Yep, lures you in because you're like, oh, I don't know,
that name makes me think they have hot feet. We're gonna put your
kids through college with feet picks. I'm telling you, and you know what,
I'll be super public about it. I'll write a book. How'd you
make your millions? Right here? Baby feet picks? Right here? Feet
picks are us OPI Lavender sponsor US. We have only the brightest of futures.
This podcast is going to serve a very specific set of people and it's
probably not our usual listener. No, what a way to start off with
a just ub. We're gonna scare people with our first video feed. I
think it's really a hole in one. Yeah, that's good. I was
trying so hard. Did you see my brain racking as I was like,
come up with a super funny put in moment? What kind of things do
people say about beat and nothing? But it's good. That's gonna be good.
Yeah, as usual, Head in the Clouds, Heat on the Ground,