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You're listening to the Downbeat. A
ninety seven won the Freak. There's a

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brand new dance and it's taking over
the world. It's called the Funky Santa,

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so let's all give it a worm. It happens late at night when

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the kids are in bed. Santa
arrives in, is pimped out slid.

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Dad's passed out, but Mommy is
awake. That's when Santa reveals his snake

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centa and Mommy smoke a big fat
bowl and Mommy hops up on his big

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nord pole. Mommy and the fat
man doing the Funky Santa. Come on,

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everybody, let's all do the Funky
Santa. Everybody. Mommy and the

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fat man doing the buns. Come
on, everybody, let's all do the

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fucus. And it's just for the
moms. Welcome back to the down Being.

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I'm Kevin Turner with Danny Bayliss.
We have JJ Jackson here, Mike

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Siroy gone this week on vacation.
He will be back. Maybe we'll hear

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from him Friday. If we can
yanke his chain long enough to do his

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iHeart Employee performance review, maybe we
can get him to zoom in on Friday.

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We'll see but if not, he'll
be back on Monday. He and

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Christine Ray went off to New Orleans
for a couple of days to spend some

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well deserved vacation time. Harrie a
special guest in studio, The Story of

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Mystery Von Eric. Top TV shows
of the year coming up at eight o'clock,

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and some more MAVs stuff dingus Morning
Days, and we'll have the performance

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review of Jeff and Julie from the
Speakeasy at nine o'clock. But we have

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a sponsored seg that we do here
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Sports at seven now, Sports at
seven, Sports at seven today, brought

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to you by Grandma's Stocking Nuts.
You remember waking up as a kid on

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Christmas morning, excited to see what
Santa brought you, And there it is,

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that bulging stocking hanging over the fireplace. It appears to be bursting with

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delicious candy or maybe kick ass toys, But then you turn it over and

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you dump it out and it's actually
filled with seven pounds of useless nuts that

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you're never gonna eat. Well,
you have Grandma to think for that.

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Thanks Grandma for ruining Christmas again.
If it's not Uncle Ken's drinking at your

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stupid nuts. Go to hell,
grandma? Are you am tired? That's

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an odd catchphrase for a company,
Go to hell, Grandma. He's a

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nasty bit. Are you not a
nuts guy? Such a male in like

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nuts? Okay? Yeah, if
they're in a can mixed nuts and pre

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shelled. But dude, that was
such a beating my stocking. There would

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be like one like thing that was
fun at the top and you'd turn it

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upside down and it was like a
grapefruit and apple and orange and like a

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hundred nuts. It's over the floor. What the hell you just took fruit

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out of the bowl, Santa and
Grandma's nuts hell, We should think of

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those who don't have anything. You
kids are kids are greedy little bastards and

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they want more than nuts. Oh
man, that's great, such a beaty.

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Okay. So Sports at seven brought
to my grandma's nuts stocking Nuts the

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Cowboys by the Bills this week,
and again if you've missed it, we

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just talked to Bavas a minute ago. We'll catch up on them at eight

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o'clock. Cowboys Bills this Sunday,
three twenty five. It is one of,

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if not the biggest game of the
NFL weekend. Clearly it's a Fox

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production, so we'll get Greg Olsen
in a little baby KK And the line

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is the Cowboys are are gonna be
underdogs by two and a half points.

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It looks like, are you surprised
by that at all? Not really,

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just because just because a lot of
the yeah, a lot of the Bills

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metrics are there too, you know. Besides, I mean, the record's

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not where you would expect it to
be, but they are still a dangerous

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looking team. And like some of
the things, like so there's five teams

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in the league just that I like, for whatever reason, there's five teams

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in the league that have a plus
one hundred point differential, okay, and

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then the Chiefs are not one of
them. It's the Cowboys leading it at

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one eighty eight San Francisco, it's
San Francisco at one seventy five, it's

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Baltimore at one forty three, and
then it's the Dolphins and then the Bills

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all over. You know, plus
one hundred. The Chiefs are not even

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really that close. I was looking
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So I always liked that stat for
some reason, because you're a really good

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team. You are stopping a mudhole
in some of these teams. Cowboys have

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done that. So a big article
did come out though by a gain named

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Tyler Dunn. Tyler Dunn used to
work for He used to cover the Packers

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from the Bleacher Report, did a
couple of things, and now he started.

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He's got his own Patreon or subscription
website. I'm not sure what it

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is. It's called go long and
he covers the Buffalo Bills has for a

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few years now. He wrote a
big article maybe a substack actually yes,

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But you know he's not beholden to
anything by a you know, big corporate

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you know New York Times something like
that. You know, there is some

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thing it's based off subscribers. But
he's good people. Journalism. People were

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like, yes, this guy is
legit. We've known him for a long

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time. You know. He had
a big article after Mike McCarthy's exodus when

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he was covering the Backers, and
there's a few things that came out.

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One of those were that during the
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was run out of town a little
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McCarthy had not evolved the playbook.
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wouldn't tell you that because he's not
the most accountable person, but he he

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probably knows. You know, I
think you could. You could kind of

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tell by watching the league had caught
up and that was a time when the

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league was trending towards this new thing
of hey, we're going for the young

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hot head coach, big offensive mind. Coaches can make a difference on the

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offense. And he got fired.
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the stories. It was just a
note of the story. It wasn't like

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the headline of the story, but
was that he would occasionally miss team meetings

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because he had some back is use
and he would miss team meetings getting a

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massage. He'd hired a masseuse or
to get of, you know, a

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back massage. He denied it.
Players who talked to Tyler Dunn confirmed it.

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So you know, whatever could maybe
it didn't happen. Sounds like you

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did. There's also stories like defensive
players are like, yeah, McCarthy was

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was a fine coach. Well liked
him, but he didn't never spend any

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time talking to us, Like defensive
players like he didn't care. He talked

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to the offensive players because those are
his guys. I talk. He talked

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to us. Now, look,
it's a big, long article from five

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years ago. It wasn't something that
was like a damning thing against McCarthy outside

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of maybe the massage thing, which
we would all deny. Why you would

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go yeah, well would say yeah, I was missing and you need some

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help, some treatment, you need
it during a team meeting. That I

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mean, that's the weird part.
Well we got one. Now, wait,

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wait till Thursday when we meet with
Zach and the table rolls in for

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me and there's a masseuse. Uh
huh. I'm gonna be like, wait,

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what's happening right now? And why
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to put your face in? And
I have a milking table. I knew

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you were going to say that I
had to go there. You were gonna

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you know, was that an amateur? So here's the thing about this article.

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The Bills have had some rough endings
to seasons, but they've been good.

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But the last few years keep it
behind their team who hadn't won that

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Super Bowl yet. You go all
these years and they've been so close and

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now Josh Allen's twenty seven. They
feel that they're kind of wasting their their

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prime. One coach that he talked
to in this article, Tyler Dune.

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Tyler done twenty five over twenty five
players, coaches, and people who either

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work for the organization or you too. Okay, Okay, So that's that's

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quite a bit of people. That's
pretty good access too. One guy was

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talking about how nervous Sean McDermott gets
in close games. Sean McDermott, by

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the way, if you if you
don't know him, he's the Bill's head

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coach who looks like Bill Burr the
comedian. They talked about how he's quick

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to blame everyone but himself in defeat. One coach in June asked to himself,

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He's like, if we fail again
this year, what's ownership gonna do

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with Sean? And they were talking
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They're like, well, he's gonna
fire Ken Dorsey. Now. Ken Dorsey

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is the offensive coordinator of Buffalo.
Buffalo fired their offensive coordinator. This is

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predicted in June. They fired him
like two weeks ago. Okay. Ken

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Dorsey, the offensive coordinator is seen
as the scapegoat for the Bill struggles this

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year when it should be all they
have is Stefan Diggs, and they got

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a running back nam James Cook is
really good. Just like the Cowboys had

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Ceedee Lamb and they had Tony Pollard
and no one else could get open.

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What happened. Dak's interceptions went through
the roof. Josh Allen's interceptions have gone

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through the room because they don't have
enough weapons. All right, They're still

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good, but not really good enough. And it's gonna crank your interceptions up

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when you're forcing it into tight windows. It's just what it is. Well,

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they're like, yeah, well that
happened with Ken Dorsey. Now Joe

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Brady, who was the offensive coordinator
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ago with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, he's now the offensive coordinator. Sean

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McDermott is a defensive head coach.
He was a defensive coordinator for the Panthers

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for many years and the Cam Newton
years. That's kind of how he got

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there. And they just called it. I get the first person he's gonna

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serve up is Ken Dorsey, and
he got served up two weeks ago he's

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gone. This gives you a little
bit of background on some of this stuff

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you're hearing might be real. You
know, we don't know, none of

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us are there, but it might
be real. They say that this started

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when the McDermott era broke. Was
January twenty second, twenty twenty two.

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That was Chiefs Bills last year in
the playoffs, and if you remember,

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the Chiefs got the ball back with
thirteen seconds left and they went and scored.

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After that game, McDermott was bitching
in the locker room, blaming it

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on the offense, saying that the
offense scored too fast to leave thirteen seconds

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on the clock. That's not scoring
too fast. The Chiefs are just ridiculous.

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And that's so you got that.
One of the coaches said, it's

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narcissism, narcissist or a unique conundrum. They want the attention, but they're

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so incon insecure at the same time
that he never takes accountability for anything.

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This takes us to part two.
Now, he has done a lot of

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speeches. Coaches do speeches. I
kind of roll my eyes at coach speech.

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Same and I think I would like
to think that twenty year old's NFL

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players are like, we've seen all
this. Just tell us, you know,

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what's the assignment. But I rarely
am gonna need a raw rah.

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Okay. They talk about how he
likes to, you know, do these

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carefully, you know, inspired and
prepared speeches, but he's a terrible communicator.

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They called him a robot at one
point in this article. There's an

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example from December twenty twenty one.
It was called the Niagara Falls speech,

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where he tells a story about a
woman drove into a waterway that spills in

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a Niagara Falls. She drifted down
the Niagara River, her vehicle gets lodged

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against a rock. Flooding's happening.
Members from the Coast Guard did everything they

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could to save the woman. He
built up the drama. Players are sitting

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there, checking, wow, how's
the story man? And he goes and

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she died. Ah, quietness in
the locker room, and some players are

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just trying not to laugh. Because
he didn't like power home a good ending

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to the story. He powered it
down. What was the moral? I

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don't know, and I don't know, they said, uh. And then

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it's those in attendance, this is
what's been the national story. Okay,

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So those in attendants will never forget
training camp. At twenty nineteen. One

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player I talked to his eyes widened
into saucers, horrified. One player almost

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falled over, clapping and laughing hysterically. One question cut off the question before

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it was before I finished asking the
question and said I ain't talking about that.

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Seven sources confirm the story. They
call it the nine to eleven speech.

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McDermott in twenty nineteen. Real quick, if the nine to eleven speech,

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what comes to mind? Initially if
you haven't heard the speech, but

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someone says, yeah, McDermott,
man, he gave the nine to eleven

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speech. You're thinking, he's thinking
about sacrifice, first responders, running to

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the danger, helping your your fellow
man and your teammates. By going to

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where the fire is, where everybody
else is running away, you're going to

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the catastrophe. He went in a
different direction. He cited the hijackers as

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a group of people who were all
able to get on the same page to

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orchestrate attacks to perfection. And then
as if that wasn't enough, he was

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like Asama bin Laden was a great
leader, amazing teamwork. Look at him,

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look at all that they did and
then he didn't stop there. He

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continued asking players about tactics the terrorists
might have used and the obstacles they faced.

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It was an oh wow moment.
This got the SNL treatment over the

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weekend. Let's play the clip from
Colin Jos on Saturday Night Live just this

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Saturday. Oh yeah, I'm muted. Here we go. Buffalo Bill's coach

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Sean McDermott apologized after giving a each
to his players where he used nine to

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eleven terrorists as a good example of
teamwork, Which is kind of a full

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circle moment because when Osama bin Laden
was giving the terrorists a pep talk,

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he told them not to be like
the Bills. Brilliant just a good joke,

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right, I'm just trying to envision
bin Laden giving the terrorists of pep

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talk. Now, do you real
quickly? Did you see where it was

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reported everybody wants to talk about discipline
and hard work and all these things.

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I don't believe in them. Did
you see what it was reported that when

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he started, he went to the
next level with it and started asking his

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players what the biggest obstacle was for
the terrorists, And one player popped off

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and goes, I don't know the
TSA. It created laughter in the room.

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Gosh, he said, there going
it's not funny. I'm serious,

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serious. You know you've heard Gary
Snakes on our airwave. Yeah, he's

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a sponsor for Snakes plus the superstore, a bunch of locations, including the

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twenty four hour Superstore with Taga and
but he's had a couple of apologies that

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he's had to issue over the last
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did is when a part time employee
was bitten by a venomous snake. You

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know, he admitted, Look,
that snake should not have been loose in

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our store. We missed the mark. Yeah, and missing the mark is

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It's kind of became a little inside
joke up here. You know, Gary

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Snakes missed the smart missed the mark. One. One player in this article

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said he was trying to bring the
team together, but it was a horrible,

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horrible reference. He missed the mark. He picked the wrong model.

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Another veteran said, not NFL like
not a not an actual veteran, a

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military veteran. NFL veteran just said
the message was fed up. And then

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another coach said, yeah, but
his intentions weren't bad. He's just so

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clueless. So he's just a bumbling
idiot apparently, and they said he did

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join the I mean training camp.
He went that same day and apologized to

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them all sorry about that, he
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day was to discuss the importance of
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the team. I regretted mentioning nine
to eleven in my message. Not only

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was nine to eleven a horrific event
in our country's history, but a day

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that I lost a good family friend, which is your classic. It's the

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classic white guys that I have friends
with a couple of black people. I

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know, look at my African American
over the classic I lost someone in I

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I hate when people do that.
It's the little the little easter egg bomb,

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you know, to to get like
sympathy, the plea, the little

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sneaky sympathy plea when you backed yourself
into a corner. Yeah, idiot,

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it's very DIFFICU. He does show
like classic signs of narcissism. That's he

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looks crazy on the sideline. I
don't know if people paid he does.

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I've thought of that before, like
he does not. It's hard. It's

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hard for me to separate the Bill
Burr aspect of it. True, but

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he's pretty uncanny, Like he does
look nervous too, and like close guide

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and yeah, what do I do? So there's they said like on the

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part of this article is And Tyler
Dunn, who wrote this article, was

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talking a lot about how the media, the local media in Buffalo handled all

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of this. He's like a lot
of people came at me for this,

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but I didn't know about this either. I would have reported when I do

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about it, but I was just
following the team. I've been talking to

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people. I was going to write
a big report on why this has not

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worked and why this will never work
with Sean McDermott. The Bills are never

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gonna win a Super Bowl, which
Ian McDermott as their head coach. And

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that's kind of the point. How
long is his article? It's a twenty

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thousand word article. Okay, how
long has McDermott been their head coach?

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Four or five? Five years?
Yeah, maybe and maybe a touch more

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than that at this point. Well, that training camp nine to eleven speech

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years ago, that definitely wasn't his
first years. Yeah, so he said

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that. Tyler Dunn wrote on Sunday, the CBS Tree of Jim Nantz,

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Tony Romo and Tracy Wolfson did an
a plus job of painting McDermott as a

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victim for explaining to players how they
could all come together like the hijackers on

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nine to eleven. Their tone was
somber and sympathetic towards the coach. Eventually

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the gang got around to pointing out
that the Bills were suiting up a player

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who was accused of assaulting his pregnant
girlfriend this week. Von Miller, who

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did play. You know. Adam
Schefter did report on Saturday that people around

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the NFL didn't know if McDermott would
make it to Sunday to coach in that

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game and this coming Sunday. Yeah, okay, well or are you talking

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about the last chief game? That's
right? So he made it through that

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and they won and they won,
so yeah, they made it because of

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a foot. This is the locker
room thing. This is this is after

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they beat the Chiefs and you can
hear players in the background, uh,

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voicing support for their head coach.
Hey listen up as a hell and win

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man, resilient, resilient football team
right here. Man so proud you guys,

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man, just all three phases.
Man, we knew it was gonna

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be tough. You guys. Resilient, Man, resilient. We're gonna need

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that. We're gonna need that going
forward. So proud you guys that all

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the distractions this week, you guys
did not flinch. Coaches, players,

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staff. So proud you guys.
Man, Hey, we got this man's

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back. Tough. Oh no,
I think great team win at the end

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of the day, great team win, find a way. Okay, that's

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Josh and the Bills put up a
big social media post We've got your back,

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coach. Now, there's a part
of like in the articles, like

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Jehan mcnerman has never gotten to know
Josh Allen very well. Okay, Sean

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mcdermotan is a defensive coach. In
fact, there's a little antidotes from when

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he was coaching for the Panthers as
there gets a coordator. The year that

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Cam Newton won MVP went fifteen to
one, he spoke he would cut into

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offensive meetings and just mother f Cam
Newton, saying that he doesn't manage the

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game well and things like that.
Now, one teammate did say this about

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Josh Allen, real quick and we
got a hustle. Yeah, he said

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Number seventeen is a different bird.
He's wired different. He's not like most

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of these quarterbacks. He wants to
make d jokes and run into people and

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I'm like, yeah, his old
tweets kind of dude, he does kind

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of look at idiots. He's a
total bro. Yes, he's just a

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bro guy moron, but he's an
incredible quarterback. There's so much more in

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that story, including once he talked
about mcert getting jealous when position coaches will

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get close to their players. Uh. The Wide Receiver room bought a new

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car for their wide receiver coach,
and Sean McDermott hated that. In fact,

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they called it a dark day at
one Bill's drive. Okay, so

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at their facility because the wide receivers
are like, let's get the let's get

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the wide receiver coach a new truck, right, and he got mad that.

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Yeah, so you know whatever it
saying they all say, he's like,

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it's not He's not a bad guy. He's not evil. He's just

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a terrible communicator. But he also
holds it in and takes no accountability for

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anything, which does remind me of
someone around here who's done a very good

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job. So that is that that
is some crazy stuff. Well putting that

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together, Kevin Turner, everyone of
America. I actually you're a real patriot.

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Yeah. I mean look, I'm
a good teamwork. Yep. I

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don't know. Let's get out of
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