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I'm Kevin Turner with Danny Bayliss. We have JJ Jackson here, Mike
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Cowboys by the Bills this week, and again if you've missed it, we
just talked to Bavas a minute ago. We'll catch up on them at eight
o'clock. Cowboys Bills this Sunday, three twenty five. It is one of,
if not the biggest game of the NFL weekend. Clearly it's a Fox
production, so we'll get Greg Olsen in a little baby KK And the line
is the Cowboys are are gonna be underdogs by two and a half points.
It looks like, are you surprised by that at all? Not really,
just because just because a lot of the yeah, a lot of the Bills
metrics are there too, you know. Besides, I mean, the record's
not where you would expect it to be, but they are still a dangerous
looking team. And like some of the things, like so there's five teams
in the league just that I like, for whatever reason, there's five teams
in the league that have a plus one hundred point differential, okay, and
then the Chiefs are not one of them. It's the Cowboys leading it at
one eighty eight San Francisco, it's San Francisco at one seventy five, it's
Baltimore at one forty three, and then it's the Dolphins and then the Bills
all over. You know, plus one hundred. The Chiefs are not even
really that close. I was looking at them. They're plus sixty four.
So I always liked that stat for some reason, because you're a really good
team. You are stopping a mudhole in some of these teams. Cowboys have
done that. So a big article did come out though by a gain named
Tyler Dunn. Tyler Dunn used to work for He used to cover the Packers
from the Bleacher Report, did a couple of things, and now he started.
He's got his own Patreon or subscription website. I'm not sure what it
is. It's called go long and he covers the Buffalo Bills has for a
few years now. He wrote a big article maybe a substack actually yes,
But you know he's not beholden to anything by a you know, big corporate
you know New York Times something like that. You know, there is some
thing it's based off subscribers. But he's good people. Journalism. People were
like, yes, this guy is legit. We've known him for a long
time. You know. He had a big article after Mike McCarthy's exodus when
he was covering the Backers, and there's a few things that came out.
One of those were that during the year that McCarthy was I'll contend that he
was run out of town a little bit by Aaron Rodgers. But you know,
McCarthy had not evolved the playbook. I think McCarthy would. He probably
wouldn't tell you that because he's not the most accountable person, but he he
probably knows. You know, I think you could. You could kind of
tell by watching the league had caught up and that was a time when the
league was trending towards this new thing of hey, we're going for the young
hot head coach, big offensive mind. Coaches can make a difference on the
offense. And he got fired. And there's a big story in one of
the stories. It was just a note of the story. It wasn't like
the headline of the story, but was that he would occasionally miss team meetings
because he had some back is use and he would miss team meetings getting a
massage. He'd hired a masseuse or to get of, you know, a
back massage. He denied it. Players who talked to Tyler Dunn confirmed it.
So you know, whatever could maybe it didn't happen. Sounds like you
did. There's also stories like defensive players are like, yeah, McCarthy was
was a fine coach. Well liked him, but he didn't never spend any
time talking to us, Like defensive players like he didn't care. He talked
to the offensive players because those are his guys. I talk. He talked
to us. Now, look, it's a big, long article from five
years ago. It wasn't something that was like a damning thing against McCarthy outside
of maybe the massage thing, which we would all deny. Why you would
go yeah, well would say yeah, I was missing and you need some
help, some treatment, you need it during a team meeting. That I
mean, that's the weird part. Well we got one. Now, wait,
wait till Thursday when we meet with Zach and the table rolls in for
me and there's a masseuse. Uh huh. I'm gonna be like, wait,
what's happening right now? And why is there a hole in the table's
to put your face in? And I have a milking table. I knew
you were going to say that I had to go there. You were gonna
you know, was that an amateur? So here's the thing about this article.
The Bills have had some rough endings to seasons, but they've been good.
But the last few years keep it behind their team who hadn't won that
Super Bowl yet. You go all these years and they've been so close and
now Josh Allen's twenty seven. They feel that they're kind of wasting their their
prime. One coach that he talked to in this article, Tyler Dune.
Tyler done twenty five over twenty five players, coaches, and people who either
work for the organization or you too. Okay, Okay, So that's that's
quite a bit of people. That's pretty good access too. One guy was
talking about how nervous Sean McDermott gets in close games. Sean McDermott, by
the way, if you if you don't know him, he's the Bill's head
coach who looks like Bill Burr the comedian. They talked about how he's quick
to blame everyone but himself in defeat. One coach in June asked to himself,
He's like, if we fail again this year, what's ownership gonna do
with Sean? And they were talking about it with a couple other coaches.
They're like, well, he's gonna fire Ken Dorsey. Now. Ken Dorsey
is the offensive coordinator of Buffalo. Buffalo fired their offensive coordinator. This is
predicted in June. They fired him like two weeks ago. Okay. Ken
Dorsey, the offensive coordinator is seen as the scapegoat for the Bill struggles this
year when it should be all they have is Stefan Diggs, and they got
a running back nam James Cook is really good. Just like the Cowboys had
Ceedee Lamb and they had Tony Pollard and no one else could get open.
What happened. Dak's interceptions went through the roof. Josh Allen's interceptions have gone
through the room because they don't have enough weapons. All right, They're still
good, but not really good enough. And it's gonna crank your interceptions up
when you're forcing it into tight windows. It's just what it is. Well,
they're like, yeah, well that happened with Ken Dorsey. Now Joe
Brady, who was the offensive coordinator for the LSU championship team a few years
ago with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, he's now the offensive coordinator. Sean
McDermott is a defensive head coach. He was a defensive coordinator for the Panthers
for many years and the Cam Newton years. That's kind of how he got
there. And they just called it. I get the first person he's gonna
serve up is Ken Dorsey, and he got served up two weeks ago he's
gone. This gives you a little bit of background on some of this stuff
you're hearing might be real. You know, we don't know, none of
us are there, but it might be real. They say that this started
when the McDermott era broke. Was January twenty second, twenty twenty two.
That was Chiefs Bills last year in the playoffs, and if you remember,
the Chiefs got the ball back with thirteen seconds left and they went and scored.
After that game, McDermott was bitching in the locker room, blaming it
on the offense, saying that the offense scored too fast to leave thirteen seconds
on the clock. That's not scoring too fast. The Chiefs are just ridiculous.
And that's so you got that. One of the coaches said, it's
narcissism, narcissist or a unique conundrum. They want the attention, but they're
so incon insecure at the same time that he never takes accountability for anything.
This takes us to part two. Now, he has done a lot of
speeches. Coaches do speeches. I kind of roll my eyes at coach speech.
Same and I think I would like to think that twenty year old's NFL
players are like, we've seen all this. Just tell us, you know,
what's the assignment. But I rarely am gonna need a raw rah.
Okay. They talk about how he likes to, you know, do these
carefully, you know, inspired and prepared speeches, but he's a terrible communicator.
They called him a robot at one point in this article. There's an
example from December twenty twenty one. It was called the Niagara Falls speech,
where he tells a story about a woman drove into a waterway that spills in
a Niagara Falls. She drifted down the Niagara River, her vehicle gets lodged
against a rock. Flooding's happening. Members from the Coast Guard did everything they
could to save the woman. He built up the drama. Players are sitting
there, checking, wow, how's the story man? And he goes and
she died. Ah, quietness in the locker room, and some players are
just trying not to laugh. Because he didn't like power home a good ending
to the story. He powered it down. What was the moral? I
don't know, and I don't know, they said, uh. And then
it's those in attendance, this is what's been the national story. Okay,
So those in attendants will never forget training camp. At twenty nineteen. One
player I talked to his eyes widened into saucers, horrified. One player almost
falled over, clapping and laughing hysterically. One question cut off the question before
it was before I finished asking the question and said I ain't talking about that.
Seven sources confirm the story. They call it the nine to eleven speech.
McDermott in twenty nineteen. Real quick, if the nine to eleven speech,
what comes to mind? Initially if you haven't heard the speech, but
someone says, yeah, McDermott, man, he gave the nine to eleven
speech. You're thinking, he's thinking about sacrifice, first responders, running to
the danger, helping your your fellow man and your teammates. By going to
where the fire is, where everybody else is running away, you're going to
the catastrophe. He went in a different direction. He cited the hijackers as
a group of people who were all able to get on the same page to
orchestrate attacks to perfection. And then as if that wasn't enough, he was
like Asama bin Laden was a great leader, amazing teamwork. Look at him,
look at all that they did and then he didn't stop there. He
continued asking players about tactics the terrorists might have used and the obstacles they faced.
It was an oh wow moment. This got the SNL treatment over the
weekend. Let's play the clip from Colin Jos on Saturday Night Live just this
Saturday. Oh yeah, I'm muted. Here we go. Buffalo Bill's coach
Sean McDermott apologized after giving a each to his players where he used nine to
eleven terrorists as a good example of teamwork, Which is kind of a full
circle moment because when Osama bin Laden was giving the terrorists a pep talk,
he told them not to be like the Bills. Brilliant just a good joke,
right, I'm just trying to envision bin Laden giving the terrorists of pep
talk. Now, do you real quickly? Did you see where it was
reported everybody wants to talk about discipline and hard work and all these things.
I don't believe in them. Did you see what it was reported that when
he started, he went to the next level with it and started asking his
players what the biggest obstacle was for the terrorists, And one player popped off
and goes, I don't know the TSA. It created laughter in the room.
Gosh, he said, there going it's not funny. I'm serious,
serious. You know you've heard Gary Snakes on our airwave. Yeah, he's
a sponsor for Snakes plus the superstore, a bunch of locations, including the
twenty four hour Superstore with Taga and but he's had a couple of apologies that
he's had to issue over the last few years. And one thing that he
did is when a part time employee was bitten by a venomous snake. You
know, he admitted, Look, that snake should not have been loose in
our store. We missed the mark. Yeah, and missing the mark is
It's kind of became a little inside joke up here. You know, Gary
Snakes missed the smart missed the mark. One. One player in this article
said he was trying to bring the team together, but it was a horrible,
horrible reference. He missed the mark. He picked the wrong model.
Another veteran said, not NFL like not a not an actual veteran, a
military veteran. NFL veteran just said the message was fed up. And then
another coach said, yeah, but his intentions weren't bad. He's just so
clueless. So he's just a bumbling idiot apparently, and they said he did
join the I mean training camp. He went that same day and apologized to
them all sorry about that, he said, My intent in that meeting that
day was to discuss the importance of communication and being on the same page with
the team. I regretted mentioning nine to eleven in my message. Not only
was nine to eleven a horrific event in our country's history, but a day
that I lost a good family friend, which is your classic. It's the
classic white guys that I have friends with a couple of black people. I
know, look at my African American over the classic I lost someone in I
I hate when people do that. It's the little the little easter egg bomb,
you know, to to get like sympathy, the plea, the little
sneaky sympathy plea when you backed yourself into a corner. Yeah, idiot,
it's very DIFFICU. He does show like classic signs of narcissism. That's he
looks crazy on the sideline. I don't know if people paid he does.
I've thought of that before, like he does not. It's hard. It's
hard for me to separate the Bill Burr aspect of it. True, but
he's pretty uncanny, Like he does look nervous too, and like close guide
and yeah, what do I do? So there's they said like on the
part of this article is And Tyler Dunn, who wrote this article, was
talking a lot about how the media, the local media in Buffalo handled all
of this. He's like a lot of people came at me for this,
but I didn't know about this either. I would have reported when I do
about it, but I was just following the team. I've been talking to
people. I was going to write a big report on why this has not
worked and why this will never work with Sean McDermott. The Bills are never
gonna win a Super Bowl, which Ian McDermott as their head coach. And
that's kind of the point. How long is his article? It's a twenty
thousand word article. Okay, how long has McDermott been their head coach?
Four or five? Five years? Yeah, maybe and maybe a touch more
than that at this point. Well, that training camp nine to eleven speech
years ago, that definitely wasn't his first years. Yeah, so he said
that. Tyler Dunn wrote on Sunday, the CBS Tree of Jim Nantz,
Tony Romo and Tracy Wolfson did an a plus job of painting McDermott as a
victim for explaining to players how they could all come together like the hijackers on
nine to eleven. Their tone was somber and sympathetic towards the coach. Eventually
the gang got around to pointing out that the Bills were suiting up a player
who was accused of assaulting his pregnant girlfriend this week. Von Miller, who
did play. You know. Adam Schefter did report on Saturday that people around
the NFL didn't know if McDermott would make it to Sunday to coach in that
game and this coming Sunday. Yeah, okay, well or are you talking
about the last chief game? That's right? So he made it through that
and they won and they won, so yeah, they made it because of
a foot. This is the locker room thing. This is this is after
they beat the Chiefs and you can hear players in the background, uh,
voicing support for their head coach. Hey listen up as a hell and win
man, resilient, resilient football team right here. Man so proud you guys,
man, just all three phases. Man, we knew it was gonna
be tough. You guys. Resilient, Man, resilient. We're gonna need
that. We're gonna need that going forward. So proud you guys that all
the distractions this week, you guys did not flinch. Coaches, players,
staff. So proud you guys. Man, Hey, we got this man's
back. Tough. Oh no, I think great team win at the end
of the day, great team win, find a way. Okay, that's
Josh and the Bills put up a big social media post We've got your back,
coach. Now, there's a part of like in the articles, like
Jehan mcnerman has never gotten to know Josh Allen very well. Okay, Sean
mcdermotan is a defensive coach. In fact, there's a little antidotes from when
he was coaching for the Panthers as there gets a coordator. The year that
Cam Newton won MVP went fifteen to one, he spoke he would cut into
offensive meetings and just mother f Cam Newton, saying that he doesn't manage the
game well and things like that. Now, one teammate did say this about
Josh Allen, real quick and we got a hustle. Yeah, he said
Number seventeen is a different bird. He's wired different. He's not like most
of these quarterbacks. He wants to make d jokes and run into people and
I'm like, yeah, his old tweets kind of dude, he does kind
of look at idiots. He's a total bro. Yes, he's just a
bro guy moron, but he's an incredible quarterback. There's so much more in
that story, including once he talked about mcert getting jealous when position coaches will
get close to their players. Uh. The Wide Receiver room bought a new
car for their wide receiver coach, and Sean McDermott hated that. In fact,
they called it a dark day at one Bill's drive. Okay, so
at their facility because the wide receivers are like, let's get the let's get
the wide receiver coach a new truck, right, and he got mad that.
Yeah, so you know whatever it saying they all say, he's like,
it's not He's not a bad guy. He's not evil. He's just
a terrible communicator. But he also holds it in and takes no accountability for
anything, which does remind me of someone around here who's done a very good
job. So that is that that is some crazy stuff. Well putting that
together, Kevin Turner, everyone of America. I actually you're a real patriot.
Yeah. I mean look, I'm a good teamwork. Yep. I
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