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Hi, Billy Cunningham, the Great
America. Welcome this glorious Sunday night.

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And of course, a few hours
ago the Senate released some of the

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language of the so called bipartisan bill, which is doa when it comes to

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the House of Representatives called the National
Security Bill. Kind of stick with me

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on this issue because it is unbelievable. It's taking them weeks and months to

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come up with this dog. And
by the way, this dog won't hunt

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and this pony will not ride.
It's unbelievable what they've done. And one

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quick side note, of course,
I watch everything so you don't have to.

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So I'm watching Speaker of the House
Mike Johnson this morning on Meet the

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Press with Kristen Welker talking about are
you going to support the bill? Are

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you going to support the bill?
Now? You would think if the so

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called Democrats in the Senate were serious, and if Joe Biden was serious,

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the way to have a serious approach
to a legal migration into America that even

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sixty minutes discovered tonight, with gaps
in the border wall and with tens of

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thousands of communist red Chinese operatives are
coming across the southern border, in addition

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to the other under and twelve countries, that they would have an approach where

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you would get from the House of
Representatives four or five individuals like a Mike

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Johnson, like a Jordan. Then
you get from the Senate four or five

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individuals. You get a Chuck Schumer, I guess he has to be involved,

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but also get a Mike Lee of
Utah. In other words, get

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people with different perspectives and then have
my Yorkers or someone from the administration participate

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in these talks. So then you
got the House and you get their perspective

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on what should be done. You
have the Senate and get their perspective as

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to what should be done. Then
you get Joe Biden, who's mentally incompetent

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but get my Yorkers or those who
control the President from the Oval Office,

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get them involved, and spend as
much time as necessary to come up with

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a package involving conservative Republicans from the
House that have principles, take the Rhino

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Republicans in the Senate along with the
Democrats, and then get the administration so

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to speak that's incompetent, and then
together have a package which is acceptable.

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But this morning on Meet the Press
with Speaker Mike Johnson, the well intended

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but idiotic Welker, the person in
charge of Meet depressed at this point,

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was quizzing the Speaker of the House
as to whether he's going to support the

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bill or not, because it contains
lots of provisions that are necessary, and

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so she is drilling Mike Johnson,
the Speaker of the House from Louisiana,

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about his support for a bill which
at that point this morning did not exist.

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About six forty pm Eastern time to
night, the bill has been released.

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Now. The monstrosity is three hundred
and seventy pages long. It's complex.

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There's multiple provisions, there are places
that coordinate challenges with other parts of

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the bill, and there's exemptions,
there's qualifications, there's hearings, and it

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goes six hundred and seventy pages I'm
sorry, three hundred and seventy pages long

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at six forty pm to night,
and so you have to vote on this

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to find out what's in it.
And it includes, among other things,

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twenty billion dollars extra for border security
in this country. The bill includes sixty

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billion for border security in the Ukraine, fourteen billion for security assistance to Israel,

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which I support, two point four
billion US Central Command military, and

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four point eight billion to support partners
in the Indo Pacific facing aggression from China.

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In additional, ten billion dollars to
rebuild Gaza, are you kidding me?

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And provide humanitarian assistance and civilians.
And there's also other parts of the

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bill that are basically one could spend
the next several months reading the three hundred

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and seventy pages of this bill with
exemptions, deductions, qualifications, hearing dates,

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interactions with other parts of the bill. It is a monstrosity and I

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am confident that Mike Johnson and the
Republicans in the House will not sign on

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to this Turkey. This dog will
not hunt. It makes no sense,

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and they've taken forever to get it
done. And when you have senators like

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JD Vance, who appeared in one
of the morning shows this morning with George

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Stephanoppolos, and you have Senator Mike
Lee of Utah, those guys could spend

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weeks in their staff pouring over these
three hundred and seventy pages of single space

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to find out exactly what's in it. It is so arcane that it would

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take that long to understand what's in
it. Of course, there's going to

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be a vote on Wednesdays. Supposedly
Wednesday, vote's going to take place in

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the Senate, and there's going to
be tremendous pressure on the House Republicans to

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collapse and agree to this bill that
was agreed upon by Mitch McConnell from Senator

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the Senator from Kentucky whose face looks
like the bottom of my right foot,

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and Chuck Schumer, the left wing
Marxist socialists New York. And guess what,

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they're not going to do it.
They're not going to sign on this

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thing at all. So the issue
is going to be whether the Democrats in

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the House will have an opportunity to
vote yes. With several Rhino Republicans actually

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pass it. I pray to God
not. We can't govern this way.

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It is completely absurd. And I
watched Chairman of the Fed, Jerome Powell

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on sixty Minutes a few hours ago, and he's talking about cutting rates sometime

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this year, and he says inflation
is tempered. Well, if you try

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to buy something, guess what,
it might not be tempered. But nonetheless,

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when sixty Minutes discovers in one of
their segments about the illegalities coming across

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the southern border, you know it's
a serious issue. So tonight we're going

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to break down with interviews with congressmen
and other experts on the southern borders to

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what's really happening and how it's happening, and how it's going to actually help

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the American people. This is the
old Washington two step. It is so

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arcane and so complicated, and so
many exemptions, deductions, qualifications and hearing

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dates. And the key part is
anywhere between four and five thousand illegal migrants

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can come across every day and the
border will not be shut down until the

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President determines after four or five thousand
there's an emergency on the southern border.

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And this is a multiply about five
thousand times number of days in a year.

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It's close to two million illegal aliens
are admitted, on top of the

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one million every year admitted legally,
on top of all the godaways, the

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top of all the over stays on
visas. The Southern border is in total

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absolute collapse. If this passes or
not. And of course Joe Biden,

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if someone would tell them, does
not need a dollar of congressional spending to

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shut down the southern border. Declare
a national emergency, finish the border wall

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by executive order, which he stopped
by executive order, stay in mex policy,

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and then course the Mexican government to
make sure no one else comes through

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that part of the border. But
because Biden is mentally incompetent and the staff

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around him is controlling things who are
Marxist, they don't want any of that

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to happen. And so what I
want you to do, just for a

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few minutes, go up to about
thirty thousand feet and take a look at

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the United States of America right now. The most important and consequential twenty first

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century trend has been the rapid expansion
of centralized government power and the collapse of

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government competence. If the government did
a few things they could do it well.

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When it does everything, it does
nothing well. You can't have a

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bill that's three hundred and seventy pages
long that would take weeks to understand and

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read and say you're somehow competent.
Whether you're in Europe. We have a

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guest coming on later, Leland Viddert
of News Nations going to talk about the

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farmers in Europe that are protesting the
only way farmers can. Whether it's Europe

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or Asia, or South America or
Africa or Canada, is in serious trouble

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because of Trudeau's policy or the good
old United States of America. We are

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in an area in which the failure
of governments could not be more profound,

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and we're watching it right here in
the country. And it reminds me of

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the comments of when Barack Husain Obama. You might recall in twenty oh six,

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twenty oh seven, and twenty oh
eight, he promised fundamental transformation of

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the nation. He said change we
can believe in, Yes we can.

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We are the change we've been waiting
for. Remember all those bananas that we

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slipped on unbelievable. And so in
twenty oh seven, twenty oh eight,

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Barack Husain Obama promised fundamental transformation,
and it's happening. It happened for the

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eight years of his presidency, setting
up Hillary Clinton for eight more years to

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solidify the quote transformation of America from
what to what? All of a sudden

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in twenty sixteen, we the American
people and a shocker said we can't take

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it anymore. The Trumpster gets in
there. And when that happened, the

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system was in a panic mode.
Impeachments, lawsuits, indictments continued, New

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York Times, Washington Post, social
media, etc. TikTok when after Donald

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Trump with the hooks and claws,
and that continues even through today. The

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chaos cited and the countless other examples
of government induced destruction indicate that the national

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decline is no accident. In fact, it's planned. So let's you and

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I discuss briefly the four or five
areas that the Obamas and others were talking

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about fundamentally transforming the United States of
America. Number one, of course,

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they used energy, and I have
a guest or two tonight talking about the

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energy the Biden administration and God forbid, if this continues for another four to

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eight years, after November the fifth, They relentlessly are pushing the nation into

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energy poverty by breaking us and reducing
the use of fossil fuels and replacing them

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with unreliable wind and solar power through
the government subsidies and restrictions. They bribe

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Americans, and even now the CEO
of Farley Afford and also of GM have

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said they're cutting severely back because it
was an unmitigated failure. The goal was

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to change the Earth's temperature. Poverty, however, makes it difficult to adjust

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to climate conditions. This is a
poverty inducing The emerging economies around the world

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need cheap and reliable energy, and
you can't get that from solar power,

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and you can't get it from solar
batteries produced to course by the communist Red

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Chinese. Nearly all the developed countries, especially Europe, have shut down their

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economies and brutally bullied people and have
taken experimental genetic injection of evs. More

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than three years later, we've begun
now to know that the promises of an

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energy rich future has been destroyed,
and that disastrous consequences have now come to

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the global economy and to people's health
and well being because the kind of ev

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that they want us all to drive. Don't work, very expensive, have

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no or little residual value. The
charging stations don't work, and when it's

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cold, nothing works. So the
Biden administration wanted to push the nation in

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energy poverty, and they've been somewhat
successful. Secondly, on the border,

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the US border with Mexico is essentially
collapsed. It's undefendable, and in fact,

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my York has said yesterday on Saturday
that we need more migrant labor.

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We understand what's behind this, to
drive down wages and to bring in one

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hundred million more people if possible.
And right now we know that the Chinese

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and other over seas investors had bought
up millions and millions of US farmland.

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The violence on the southern border even
sixty minutes discovered it a few hours ago.

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It is historically unprecedented and in fact
has never happened anywhere in the world

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where a country can survive without a
functioning border. Thirdly, violent crime.

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I note that Mike Gill, a
man that I've never met, was a

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Obama administration official, was killed yesterday
part of a carjacking. Violent crime is

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up eight hundred percent in many American
cities, as local governments find it impossible

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to confront the violent crime because of
the defund the police movement, Many many

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more police are leaving and the police
are afraid to arrest anyone because of lawsuits

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and the fear of being fired,
and city attorneys refused to prosecute those who

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damage and hurt the police themselves.
Look at NYPD and homelessness is rampant,

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fentanyl addiction and declared a ninety day
emergency because the drug use, the poop,

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the urine, the fentanyl is completely
out of control, with many American

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cities strewn with garbage, human waste, and drug paraphernalia. Think of them,

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majestic American cities that we've always just
changed, we can believe in.

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There's violent mobs attacking individuals and killing
innocent people in public places, and they're

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immune from prosecution all over the major
cities in this country. And it's accelerating,

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it's not getting worse, and organized
gangs of thieves are invading retail stores

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and blue cities and Blue states,
stealing goods, and governments and stores corporate

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owners who require employees and police to
let the thieves happen without consequences. Understandably,

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the retailers and the services are leaving
areas, creating food deserts and retailed

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deserts because of a specific policy to
overwhelm the system, overwhelm completely. What's

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happening and precisely what we seek to
avoid, it is exactly what we have

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in this country right now. We're
in serious, serious problem because remember twenty

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oh seven twenty eight fundamentally transform America
from what to what. Lastly, government

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runs schools in doctrin eight, children
in ethnic and religious hatred and sexual dysfunction.

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Right now, if you take the
schools in Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland,

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New York, throw in Austin,
Texas, or Atlanta, Washington,

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d C. There's little or no
education actually happening in those schools. Why

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because the teachers' unions and the parents
elect leaders of the school districts that don't

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demand educational achievement, that misbehavior in
crimes in classrooms and other school properties.

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School crimes have increased, and the
academic scores are collapsing or declining. There

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are a large number of schools in
many urban areas in which no student in

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the eighth grade passed the eighth grade
proficiency test in English or history, which

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means many are functionally illiterate. With
AI, anti Semitism on the rise among

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young young people, and perceptions of
race relations have gone down badly awful.

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And that's a specific design of the
modern Democratic Party, and it's not going

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to change. The only way to
change is to make it change, make

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the change occur, and I doubt
that's going to take place if the Democrats

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went in November, which is why
whyn Allen Rut and I both believe,

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and many believe, that Michelle Obama
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Democrat Party because come July or August, the numbers NBC News had to pull

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out today with the Donald beating up
on Biden by eight percentage points and all

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the majors, all the major contestable
electoral votes in states like Michigan and Georgia

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and Arizona. Trump's dominating Joe Biden. So the Democrats will not permit him

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to who's mentally incompetent, to be
their nominee. He can't campaign, he

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can't talk. That means Michelle Obama
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It's got to get to work,
and that's why it's going to be.

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In my view, Michelle Obama will
be the nominee and the vice president will

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be Gavin Newsome. Let's continue with
more if the line becomes available. Eight

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lot of ground to get over.
Stay with us, Bill Cunningham, the

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Great American with you every Sunday night. All right, let's continue. I

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don't want to be pessimistic about the
future, because we can change policy and

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get different results. The southern border
can be locked down without spending a dollar.

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The schools could be improved if the
residents and communities with terrible results would

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change the leadership of their schools.
The police departments could get much better if

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we had actual prosecutors and judges and
cops in these blue cities that are incentivized

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to do their job. It's possible. Essentially, we're in trouble. When

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I talk about young men and some
young women it to porn and gambling and

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drugs, that that is not the
recipe for a future that will be worthy

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of our children growing up in and
so we have a serious problem. And

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in addition to that, the federal
government is borrowing about six billion dollars every

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day, about two trillion dollars per
year, a brand new money in that

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economic expansion that is built on whipped
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in addition all these other problems,
what we have brought about by failure of

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policy, we now also understand the
federal government was to borrow more money to

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keep the same policies in place.
And at some point even Jerome Powell said

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on sixty Minutes tonight that we're on
the path to financial ruin if we don't

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address the deficit. Right now,
we owe about thirty four trillion. By

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the end of this decade, it'll
be north of thirty trillion dollars. Thirty

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trillion dollars with the interest rates staying
about four to five percent of the ten

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year note that means one trillion dollars
a year goes an interest to pay off

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part of the national debt. Borrowing
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cannot continue. Well, let's go, let's get into it. Many great

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guests coming up later. We're going
to start off put a call into James

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Massa of Numbers USA to talk about
the southern border and more Bill Cunningham,

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the Great American, with you every
Sunday Night, Bill Cunningham, the Great

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American. The news came out a
few days ago that on Wednesday, Senator

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Chuck Schumer is going to have on
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Senate the final James Langford from Oklahoma
bill that would define what new powers the

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president might have to evict from this
country. So many illegal aliens will have

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any impact. Of course, the
headline number, according to leaks, which

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may or may not be accurate,
is that there's a five thousand dollars five

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thousand person limit per day, and
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Five thousand a day of illegal aliens
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That doesn't count so many others.
And the numbers USA has been on this

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issue for many years in James Massa
is with numbers Usay and James Massa,

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Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And from the speculation that we have today,

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can you tell the American people why
the Oklahoma legislature sanctioned their own Republican

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senator? What do they know that
many do not? Well, it's always

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good to be here, Bill,
and I would say that what they know

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others do know, which is that
what Langford has proposed and what he continues

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to negotiate is completely at odds with
what the House has already passed in regards

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to to during the border. It's
actually codifying the border crisis. And it's

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not just Langford on this. This
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so he Langford's catching the grief and
you absolutely should be, because the things

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that are coming out that are being
rumored or are just acrosities. However,

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who's really driving this behind it is
McConnell, which is kind of sad.

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I mean, he looks like the
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he's completely lost his way. Senator
Ran Paul, who's a frequent guest

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here, he will not speak ill
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is a reflection of Chuck Schumer.
And so I would imagine that the bill

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is doa in the House of Representatives, but explain what the crisis is for

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those who don't pay a lot of
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are connected to what's happening in the
world, what's happening in current events,

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but The average American often wakes up
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is tomorrow the election day? November
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They live their lives in good and
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families, give charitably of their time, and they simply live their life.

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But most don't know. Most Americans
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I ask James Master this question,
why is there a crisis now in

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the southern border that the mainstream media
it's just recently discovered. Well, it's

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unavoidable of what's going on on the
southern border. Just in December, there

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were three hundred and two thousand illegal
apprehensions on the southern border alone, three

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hundred and twenty seven thousand throughout the
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of people who have tried to enter
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in the Obama era, eighty two
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sent back. In the Trump area
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administration, over eighty five percent of
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released into the interior, and given
a job permit. So the impact

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is enormous on our nation, both
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of the communities, everything from health
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And now I live in Cincinnati,
Ohio. We have three hundred and five

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thousand residents in the city of Cincinnati. So one can imagine in one month

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we had the same number of people
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city of Cincinnati, and over continue
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is eight to ten million. The
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is accelerating to maybe one hundred million. More so when Chicago, New York,

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Portland, LA, and Atlanta deals
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tip of the spear, the tip
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two hundred million that want to come
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this issue. Whenever Joe Biden walks
to a helicopter, someone tries to yell

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questions to him. And of course
he can't hold a news conference, he

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can't hold his spare thoughts in his
mind to issue a fungent opinion about anything

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because of his mental acuity. Like
thereof, But what are the two or

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three things that Joe Biden could do
this afternoon, could do tonight, to

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do tomorrow that would absolutely fundamentally change
the border without money coming from the Congress.

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Because Trump did it. Trump did
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him to shut down the southern border
and make it work. What could Biden

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do if he had the guts to
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three things that should occur. Well, one of the first things he could

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do is end this catch and release
policy. Catch and release is what I

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just described. People come in,
they're apprehended, then they're released into the

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United States. The return the remain
in Mexico policy of the Trump era is

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what stopped that. And it put
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the illegal incursion into the United States
just by saying, if you come here,

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you're not going to be released into
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have to stay in Mexico or your
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addressed. So that alone could be
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and this is why people are so
up at armed. What's coming out

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of the language work is that one
of the proposals is that they won't actually

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catch and release them. They will
catch them and put them in what is

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called non custodial care. Non custodial
care means we're going to give you an

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iPhone and we're going to call you
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in the United States and have a
job permit, that we know where you

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are. Can you imagine I do, because I see it. Cincinnati,

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now, little Cincinnati has a homelessness
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years. And what's happening. And
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they must understand, this is the
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solving the problem. It's been well
publicized now these illegal aliens living at the

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Roosevelt Hotel, which a few years
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has been taken over. The six
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over by Homeland Security. They pay
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they've thrown out the residents much like
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into illegal aliens and then two cops
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my TV show in New York City, and I loved it there with those

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cops, and they were tough and
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New York cops had the crap kicked
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were trying to break up a fight, and suddenly the mob turned on the

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two police officers. They were kicked
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they were punched, and one of
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injuries. The other one is injured
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But nonetheless, when they got to
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They arrested the perpetrators. It's all
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did this happen or did not happen. And the prosecutor in New York City

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did not request a bond of any
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in and said there will be a
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In other words, lock them up
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a felony on a cop. Instead
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they are on their way to California
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the days ahead that'll be a reawakening
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legal migration or not. Well,
I believe it's going to be ignored again.

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The New York City has been ignoring
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city and on the citizens of New
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States for a long time, and
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asking for is more money to be
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more effectively, so that taxpayers across
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is just trying to reset underneath the
Biden administration what is normal. It is

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not normal for a sovereign nation to
have five thousand people coming across their border

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illegally, to be able to show
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other city USA and be able to
perpetrate the types of actions that you're describing

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right now on law abiding citizens and
the law enforcement people who are here for

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us in the blue. So it
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say that five thousands just fine is
what a sovereign nation should expect from its

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illegal immigration. We need to have
immigration, we need to have it open

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in a way that's positive for this
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be illegal. We're two thirds of
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the border and impacting people in our
cities the way you've just described. Numbers

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USA dot org, you have a
study about the environmental concerns, the Piedmont

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Sprawl Study. It says the following
the population growth in the region of North

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Carolina South Carolina is driving sprawl.
Eighty six percent of the loss of open

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space per capital and consumption is responsible
for the other environmental endorsements of US population

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stabilization. I would think liberals care
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What impact on these I don't know. Ten million, twenty million, fifty

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million will have on just the issue
of the environment and what that means for

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highways and pollution. Speak to that
number about liberals should be concerned with this,

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but they're not. Well, you
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com and anyone can join at our
website Numbers USA dot com. It does

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speak to unified focus on the impact
of numbers on the environment, as well

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as on law and order, as
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have people who are really quite liberal
on the left of many many issues,

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but are in absolute agreement that we
need to secure the border and we need

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to have a sensible immigration policy.
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in the right who have the exact
same agreement. This is one of the

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few areas that Americans across the ideological
spectrum are in agreement on that we need

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to reduce the impact of illegal immigration
into our nation, and there is environmental

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impact. The sprawl studies are available. You can do spraw studies dot com

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and you'll be able to find more
and more studies. We do one for

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a variety of different states. We
just released Texas, we just released Idaho.

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We're going to be doing one on
Yellowstone because the impact is even occurring

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in our national parks at this point
in time. So there's great sovereignty in

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our nation, and as great resources, part of it is our environment.

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It needs to be protected as well. I always say follow the money and

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follow the power. Twenty thirty is
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the Constitution counts persons and not citizens
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Democratic Party, not the Democratic Party
of our fathers and mothers, but rather

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the current Democratic Party twenty thirty is
coming what in six years? Persons are

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counted for population census and not citizens. So the more the Democrats put citizens

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slash persons in California, Illinois,
all the Pennsylvania, New York, that's

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going to give them more power in
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responsible approach toward immigrations, such as
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and Texas, they're going to lose
representation in the Congress, while these high

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population states will increase. So do
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Democrats? And you might add James
mass up numbers USA that ten or fifteen

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years ago, when Barack Hussein Obama
was in office, he spoke on immigration

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similar to the way you and I
speak today. It must be stopped.

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People can't come in the country illegally, is what Obama and Biden said.

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And that's changed completely. Do you
think there's a political motive here of the

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progressive Marxist Democrats to have more and
more persons living in various states? So

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they have more power in the House
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is yes. I don't know if
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they expect will be what they anticipate, but I think that is one of

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the objectives. It effects on the
local area when people are trying to provide

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driver's licenses which might allow them to
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It's when you have communities such as
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in the last thirty days can vote
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the voter profile and how the different
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So there will be that impact.
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one of our Vice presidents, have
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wrote a book recently called Political Migrants
The Hispanic Voters on the Move,

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and what we find is is for
Hispanic voters, now, these are US

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citizens who are naturalized who have been
here for a generation or two. They

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have moved from being a democratic Republican
bloc to almost forty seven to forty nine

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percent of them voted more in a
Republican orientation in the last election midterm elections.

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So those who are coming to US
from the southern hemisphere in Central America

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who are not criminals, because there
are criminals coming in, there are terrorists

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coming in. But those who are
just people coming here for economic purposes,

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in a generation or two, they're
going to be voting in the Republican orientation.

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They want that border closed as well. One of the strongest voices today

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is the Hispanic US citizens saying,
no, Moss, we don't want anymore.

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We know what's coming in. It's
not what's good for America. And

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I'm an America, so I think
that there's going to be an unexpected outcome

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of that. But in the short
term, yes, redistricting can occur,

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and it would occur based on the
population of where the where people are in

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the United States. Now, lastly, let's say November the fifth of this

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year, James massive NumbersUSA dot org. Things go awry, whether it's Michelle

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Obama or whether it's Gavin Newsom,
or whether it's Kamala Harris, or whether

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it's Joe Biden is re elected or
elected, and we go through another beginning

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in twenty twenty five, another four
to eight year cycle of open borders.

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That may be good for business,
for numbers USA and people contributing, but

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the fact of the matter is,
let's jump at about seven to ten years

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from now, and the policies of
Joe Biden have continued to operate into the

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twenty thirties. What does America look
like? Well, America doesn't look like

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America today. In fact, this
is one of the most significant social changes

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to our nation that is occurring.
And in fact, it's interesting. One

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hundred years ago, in nineteen twenty
four, there was an immigration law that

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was placed and it basically stopped immigration, and it had a number that was

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correct a low number of people who
allowed legally in the United States. But

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it basically it's flew to people from
all different types of nations, so it's

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very discriminatory from a national level,
but it had the number right. In

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the nineteen sixties, we had the
reverse of that, where they got the

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people right, where they opened it
up that people could come to us from

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any nation and add the value that
we want immigrants to be able to add.

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But they opened up the number and
it dramatically grew. On the legal

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side, It dramatically grew from two
hundred and sixty thousand to almost a million

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legal immigrants coming in to the United
States. Those are fifty year blocks.

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We stand today at an opportunity to
get it right, where we get the

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number right, which is a lower
number than what's currently today, probably lower

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than a million legal immigrants, let
alone to two million illegal immigrants, and

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we are able to bring and the
best and brightest and those people who can

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actually add value to our nation.
Those two things need to both happen.

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That's what immigration reform would truly be. That's what a sensible immigration policy is.

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And it allows for the ability to
still respond to acute issues throughout the

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world. It allows for us to
be able to address short labor if we

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actually have it, but it most
importantly protects the United States citizens so that

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what's coming into the nation actually benefits
us as a nation. And that's a

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sensible immigration policy. We have the
opportunity now to do it, but we

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could find ourselves way off that mark. What are novel thoughts. The words

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and the statue of liberty in the
nineteenth century do not apply in the twenty

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first century, and we must change. James Massa NumbersUSA dot Org. All

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the facts information is there. People
can join and once again, thank you

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for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We're warning the American people. Let's

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see what happens in November. James
Massa, thank you very much. Thank

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you Bill. Let's continue Bill Cunningham, the Great American live with you every

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Sunday night. You know illegal immigration
is a problem. With sixty minutes discovers

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that years later gap in the fence, and tonight's sixty Minutes interviewed a farmer

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that owns the land in which he
said, three thousand a week come across

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a gap in the fence, which
is one hundred and fifty thousand a year,

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onto his land. It looks like
a homeless encounter, and this poor

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rancher is sitting there on a rock
saying, I have no idea what to

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do. And the answer is it
takes policy. It doesn't take money.

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All it takes is for Joe Biden
to say, essentially, you know what,

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this will not work, It doesn't
happen this way. It must change.

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And so the goal is hopefully to
have a new government in November that

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changes the policy. Someone needs to
tell Joe Biden quickly, guess what you

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have The power to issue an executive
order that would change to remain in Mexico

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policy and complete the border fence with
parts of the fence in collapse. You

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have the power to do that yourself. Do it. But when Speaker of

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the House Mike Johnson met with Biden
one time, he came away questioning who's

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in charge of the presidency because conversation
with Joe Biden about the southern border,

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what come out came out of the
President's mouth made no sense whatsoever. It

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is a serious, serious difficulty and
needs to be solved somehow, by not

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by the bill that came out of
the Senate about five or six hours ago,

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but by others. So let's continue
with more. Bill Cunningham with you

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every Sunday night, Willie rough you
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com. Now here's the man who's
been recognized as radio's best, the recipient

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of not one, but two prestigious
Marconi Awards for his broadcast exodence, the

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one and only Bill Cunninghead. I'm
Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of

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course, according to media accounts.
A few hours ago, the Senate released

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the verbiage of the three hundred and
seventy page American Security Act, which lays

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out all kinds of new spending by
the US government. Just to go over

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some of the headlights. They're talking
about twenty billion dollars for border security here,

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they're talking about sixty billion for border
security in the Ukraine, fourteen billion

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for security assistants in Israel, which
I support, two billion dollars US Central

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Command, and the conflict in the
Red Sea. Five billion more for partners

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00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:21.440
in the Indo Pacific facing aggression from
China, et cetera. And joinan you

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and I now is Congressman Warren Davidson
too, the great state of Ohio,

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went to West Point, went to
Notre Dame. Been in Congress about eight

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to ten years. He's a Conservative, a member of the Freedom Caucus.

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And Congressman Warren Davidson. And welcome
again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And

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when I watched Speaker of the House
Mike Johnson be quizzed by Kristen Welker about

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whether he's going to support the bill
even and she wanted all the things she

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knew about what was going to be
in the bill that Mike Johnson had a

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great had kind of liked a little
bit and said, Okay, are you

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going to support the bill? And
he kept saying, look, if I'm

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going to eat the meal, I
like to buy some of the groceries.

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I like to know. So what's
in the bill and why weren't we notified?

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So, Warren Davidson, Congressman,
one of the leaders of the Freedom

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Caucus, is anyone on your side
of the aisle and the House of Representatives

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been involved in preparing this meal that
you're supposed to eat, not at all.

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And frankly, most of the Senate
hasn't been involved. There's been a

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handful of senators involved, and they
keep saying, well, you got to

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support it. You're like, well, the text just came out tonight.

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But for a month now, it's
all you got to get on board with

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the Senate bill and you don't even
have texts yet. And now that we've

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got text and my staff and I've
been going down through it tonight. Right

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after the text came the text of
the bill came out, it doesn't look

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good. Just like you say,
twenty billions what they claim is for border

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security, but a lot of it's
essentially funding for sanctuary cities to keep Biden's

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border policies in place. The border
policies lock in a lot of the bad

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policies. It turns into a bigger
magnet for illegal immigration, not a remedy.

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And look, we have our bill
in the House since May of last

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year, and we've done multiple incremental
bills, but we've done a big r

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HR two since May, and this
is finally supposed to be the counteroffer from

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the Senate. Let's keep that in
mind. It's a counteroffer, and that's

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if it can get through the Senate. We've already passed through the House our

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offer, and you know, there
should be not a blind acceptance of this

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terrible idea from the Senate. And
I think really the Senate might exist just

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to prove that the House bills could
end up being worse. So it is.

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It is a bad idea from what
I've read so far. And let's

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not forget Willie. We haven't even
funded America's government yet. The deadline was

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October first of twenty twenty three,
and we're still on continuing resolutions to fund

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our own government. Absurd, ridiculous. I think the deadline's March first,

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March seventh, March eighth, whatever. So allegedly on Wednesday, there's going

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to be a vote in the Senate. But see, this is set up,

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and I think Mike Johnson was very
smart to say this that if the

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system was serious about having an omnibus
bill, there would have been five or

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six representatives from the House of Representatives, maybe Jim Jordan. Maybe you pick

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out two or three more Mike Johnson, along with five or six from the

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Senate. Get three Republicans, three
Democrats, put Senator Mike Lee in there

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as one of the three. Then
get the administration together, go somewhere,

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maybe to Camp David, and hack
it out over months and years so that

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everyone is everyone is involved. And
so why eat the meal if you can't

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buy the groceries? And the House
of Representatives isn't involved in this at all.

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In fact, he said, I
don't know what's in it, And

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so you're saying it's at four to
five thousand illegal immigrants a day, which

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might be as many as two million
a year, and then money to give

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sanctuary cities more money as a magnet
to bring more in. If they were

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serious about this, wouldn't they spent
the last several weeks working with people like

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you and the Senate and the Administration
to come up with something everybody would agree

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to. What they're gonna do is
push out three hundred and seventy pages and

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Monday and Tuesday vote on a Wednesday, which may not happen. Then it's

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gonna then Mike Johnson and folks like
you were going to say, that's do

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a man that we're not gonna We're
not gonna do this. Then the media

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and social media and the Democrats are
gonna blame you for keeping the southern border

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open? Is that the old Washington
two step? Yeah, that's what they're

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going to try to do. And
frankly, you know they'll let ten million

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in and then try to lock in
a structural Oh we're just gonna let two

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million in. Now, I'll see
what a great success this is. I

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mean, they are serious about border
security, they're serious about destroying it.

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That's why Joe Biden undid all the
Trump policies on day one. Uh,

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you know, they know the effect
that these policies are having. And so

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you know, in January, right
first week of January, second week of

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January, I went down to the
border with Speaker Johnson in about sixty of

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my colleagues, and we met with
the Border Patrol because we knew, hey,

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the Senate's working on their compromise bill. What do you guys think?

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What are you hearing? Talking to
the Border patrol agents and some of the

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sheriffs and local law enforcement down there
in Texas. And one of the guys

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really summed it up well, he's
like, we were like, do you

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need more funding for X, Y
or Z? And he's like, guys,

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I don't need more money for more
buckets. I need somebody to turn

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the fire hydrant off and the fire
hydrants on because Joe Biden opened it up

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with all the border policies. So
unless you're going to change the policies that

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are driving everybody to here, I
don't know how you're going to help fix

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the problem. So that's fundamentally the
root issue is not the twenty billion dollar

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number. It's the policies that are
behind the number. And it doesn't look

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like there's anything encouraging to even hold
out as the basis for a negotiation or

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compromise with the plan that the Senate
published tonight and Representative Warren Davidson. W

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you know the two or three things
Biden could do if he could understand the

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issue that he could do this week
that would change exactly the border to make

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it more under control without congressional action. Whatsoever does he even for number one?

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Does he know he can do it? Or number two? What should

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he do that would involve no money? Well, let's declar I'm not sure

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what Joe Biden personally knows, but
the administration certainly knows. We all know

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he's struggling with some issues there and
has been, but fundamentally he knows what

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he did to undo it and that
resulted in the flood, and everyone including

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the union that represents the border patrols, telling him the same things you have

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to do. The remain in Mexico
policy. They came up with this phrase

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catch and release years ago, which
is you catch them and then you release

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them into the United States. Now, for any fisherman out there, you

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know catching release means you catch them
and you throw them back. So that's

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what they need to do. You
catch them and you throw them back,

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and look, we can detain you
as long as you want at the border.

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I think we should keep families together. There's a Flurees decision that says

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you've got to separate kids. Well, that's how the Biden administrations lost control

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of one hundred thousand kids. They
have no accountability for one hundred thousand kids

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under fourteen. This is insane.
So to hold families together or release them

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together back across the border, that
alone will lost to the problem. And

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then you should do like no interior
resettlement. So there are a lot of

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nonprofits that are getting paid tens of
millions of dollars to help these migrants come

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to the country, and then they're
getting paid tens of millions of dollars more

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to help the poverty that goes on
in the cities. So eliminate the poverty

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magnet that says, if you're here
illegally, you're getting not only are you

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getting nothing as you start coming into
the border, but if you're already inside

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the country, no, there is
no payment period. You're eligible for zero

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dollars. So if you turn that
off and you turn the funding to the

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nonprofits that are just laundering the money
through our sanctuary city communities, a lot

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of the nonprofits would stop doing what
they're doing, and at least they would

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stop the tax dollars. So if
private charity did at a bridge of the

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gap, that'd be one thing,
but that would really those three things right

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there would really take away a lot
of the magnet. Like Catholic charities and

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others are paid tens of millions of
dollars to care to house clothes and feed

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large numbers of immigration. If we
didn't have stay in Mexico policy, that

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would collapse that. And so when
you went to the border with and I

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can recall that you were standing there, there was a fifty or sixty congressman

613
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:42.719
and the border patrol, those in
the front line said to you, and

614
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.320
I recall the interviews, we do
not need more money. What we need

615
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:52.599
is less individuals illegally entering the country
and move them back across the border quickly

616
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.679
and don't parole them into the United
States. And so nothing in this new

617
00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.239
act is going to change any of
that. Can you describe to the American

618
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:07.079
people when illegals come across maybe five
in December, it was ten thousand a

619
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.599
day, ten thousand a day we
know about when they hit the border fence,

620
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:15.880
instead of hiding from border patrol,
they seek out border patrol. They

621
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.880
want to get registered in the system. Then it may be many months before

622
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.000
they even get a hearing date,
sometime in the twenty thirties. But how

623
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:27.639
do you go from a desert area
illegally with little or no assets. How

624
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.079
do you go from there to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, or to Madison. How

625
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:35.840
do you make that trip? How
does that happen? Yeah, so here's

626
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:40.960
the mechanism. They're coming up all
through Central America, and the Biden administration

627
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.679
is facilitating this, as is the
United Nations and lots of charities, some

628
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:50.800
otherwise great charities that we would give
to people like Catholic charities, people like

629
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.639
the Salvation Army, like the Urban
League. These guys are giving money out

630
00:48:53.639 --> 00:49:00.039
there, and the migrants make their
way up the administration stopping country like Guatemala

631
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.800
from doing things to secure the border. They want them to pass on through

632
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:07.480
Mexico and get to our country.
When they come to the border, they

633
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:09.559
do just that, most of them. Now, you know, we've got

634
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:15.000
almost eight million that the border patrols
encountered, and about ninety percent of the

635
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.599
people that they encounter at the border
they process. And they've set up all

636
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these tents along the border and in
the middle of the desert, and they're

637
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.519
nice air force tents. They're not
the you know, spartan army tents.

638
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:28.880
They get heating and air conditioning and
lights and everything, but they're tents.

639
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:31.800
They give you the appearance that this
is a temporary plan. They get folding

640
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:36.440
tables and everything, and they bring
them in and the border patrol agents.

641
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:38.199
One of the big things about going
down to the border. I mean,

642
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.440
you don't need to go there to
know that it's broken, but when you

643
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:44.760
go there and you see border patrol
agents that you know, went into this

644
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.519
line of work to defend the country
and secure the border, the morale is

645
00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:52.760
so low because ninety percent of the
people that they bring into this building are

646
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.719
the tents. They're just turning loose
to go wherever they want in the country.

647
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.800
So then they bring them through the
tent, they're documented, and then

648
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:05.920
they turn them loose unless they're miners. There's no good documentation on miners.

649
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:12.079
Separate issue. Then they turn them
over to nonprofits and the nonprofits are back

650
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.440
in the funding pipeline. In a
lot of cases, the cartels and nonprofits

651
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:19.519
have brought the luggage in a separate
area. They make them up with their

652
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:22.400
luggage and they'll deliver them to whatever
sanctuary city you want to go. Do

653
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:24.199
you come in in Texas and you
want to go to California, You want

654
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:29.559
to go to Boston or Philadelphia or
Chicago, No problem, you can go

655
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:37.199
there. And it's all coordinated through
a big government, big nonprofit laundering scheme

656
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:39.719
with all this money and our FEMA
dollars are paying for a lot of this

657
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:45.559
relocation. Then they get to the
cities and just like Eric Adams has tried

658
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.920
to call attention to his problem in
New York City, he wanted to be

659
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:52.320
a sanctuary city, and now he's
in the you know, find out phase

660
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.159
where like, wow, you know, we're getting wrecked. Somebody turned this

661
00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:00.760
off and they're having to cut funding
for all their programs in the city because

662
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.400
they don't have it. And that's
what the twenty billion's for is to help

663
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:07.480
guys like Eric Adams not have to
cut his local budget because they're getting pressure

664
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:12.760
from all kinds of people that normally
think of themselves as Democrats, but they're

665
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:15.440
saying, you're destroying our city,
and you get pushed back in the minority

666
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:20.159
communities in Chicago and New York.
Democrats are like whoa, we got a

667
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.639
problem. And fundamentally that's why they're
trying to change the narrative, is they

668
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.599
know they've got a problem with their
base. I mean, you you get

669
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.599
you know, a lot a lot
of folks over there pushing back on it,

670
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:31.679
and hopefully that means we're going to
get a change. We have to

671
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:36.639
stay the course and do something real, though. We can't just do window

672
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.159
dressing here and let the Democrats somehow
say, oh see we fixed it.

673
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:42.960
Now. All you did is fixed
is you gave more money to the sanctuary

674
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.880
cities. So they keep doing what
they're doing. Could could there be I

675
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:50.280
watched political commentator this morning say,
well, you're going to have all the

676
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:55.400
Democrats voting lockstep forward. Assuming you
get to sixty votes in the Senate and

677
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:59.039
you told me off the air,
that's if the at best, but assuming

678
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.800
you get sixty votes in the Senate
and then goes to the House and all

679
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:07.079
the editorial writers, all social media, the Democrats, all the talk shows

680
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.519
are going to come after the House
of Representatives as Neanderthals. So don't understand

681
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.719
what's going on. And Trump's in
charge of the party, and Trump's not

682
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:15.559
going to allow it. All that
kind of crap's going to go on,

683
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:20.800
and Mike Johnson said, no,
Trump's not giving me marching orders. I'm

684
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:25.039
doing it because that's what my constituents
won. And so, assuming in several

685
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:30.000
weeks from now, there's going to
be a vote in the House, is

686
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:37.039
it conceivable that all the Democrats and
then pick out twenty or thirty Republicans would

687
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:43.760
vote for it and this Turkey would
become law. Is that conceivable. It's

688
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:46.519
hard to imagine that it'll even get
a vote in the House. Frankly,

689
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:52.880
I think Speaker Johnson's disinclined to put
it on the floor, and he's hearing

690
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:55.320
that from a lot of us.
Effectly, there'd be other problems for the

691
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:59.320
Speaker if he did bring this bill
to the floor, because again, it's

692
00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.880
not just a stand the lun border
issue. It's tied to sixty billion for

693
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:07.480
Ukraine, a lot of support trying
to fund something for Israel. But fundamentally,

694
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:10.400
if we can't defend our own country, we can't secure our borders,

695
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:15.280
we shouldn't be funding anything else right
now, is kind of my position.

696
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:17.719
I just did a poll on my
Twitter. Now it's not a scientific it's

697
00:53:17.719 --> 00:53:22.000
just a Twitter poll. But I
threw it out there on Twitter ex at

698
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.679
Warren Davidson, and I said,
you know, should we fund Israel,

699
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:30.480
should we fund Ukraine? Should we
secure our borders? Or should we do

700
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:35.719
all the above? And so far
it's like eighty two eighty three percent secure

701
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:37.559
our borders. Yeah, I mean
that's what people want to do. They

702
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:39.880
know, yeah, we can get
around with some of the other stuff.

703
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:43.440
Some people don't want to get around
to any of the other stuff, but

704
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:46.239
they definitely want to secure our borders. And you know, so that's why

705
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:50.480
I think it's just a no brainer
to get that done. And the Speaker

706
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:53.159
should just say no, we're not
even going to talk about this giant supplemental

707
00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:57.519
plan. We haven't even funded our
own government yet with the regular twenty batiscal

708
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:02.000
year twenty four appropriations, which include
border security it did when it passed the

709
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:07.280
House. Well, let's move on. Lastly, let's say things go awry.

710
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:12.840
November the fifth, and Michelle Obama
is the president or god Joe Biden

711
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:15.320
is the president, Kamala Harris is
the president, I don't know. Gavin

712
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:20.360
Newsom is the president, and they
announced we're going to continue these same policies

713
00:54:20.559 --> 00:54:24.239
on the southern border. We're going
to keep borrowing about six billion dollars every

714
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:28.840
day of brand new money. We're
going to continue policies in the inner city.

715
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:30.760
We're going to continue to print money. We're going to have more taxes,

716
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:35.800
more borrowing, and we're going to
continue that for the next eight to

717
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:39.360
twelve years. What does America look
like in twenty thirty four. I saw

718
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:44.440
one report that if we don't change
border policy, there's going to be at

719
00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:50.199
least one hundred million more persons entering
this country in the next twenty five years.

720
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:53.559
One hundred million minimum. That means
the country's got four hundred and forty

721
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:59.079
million people majority on government assistance.
What does the country look like if you

722
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:04.079
lose this fight? Well, look, we're bankrupt either way at the rate

723
00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:07.199
we're going. But if you look
at the demographic challenges in the country,

724
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:09.960
we people think, oh, you
know, we've been talking about this for

725
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:14.360
years. I'm kind of sick of
hearing about it. The scale is so

726
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:17.400
much different than what people, you
know, can easily appreciate. I mean,

727
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:22.079
we had more illegal immigrants in America
last year than we had babies born.

728
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:25.719
I mean, that's a lot.
That's a lot. Think what that

729
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:30.639
does to the demographics of your country. And right now, the way they've

730
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:35.679
been counting the census, they count
everybody who's here and then they divide up

731
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:38.719
the representatives. The way that it
should be done is you count the citizens

732
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:43.760
at least for the representation. I
mean, there's county illegals in the census.

733
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:49.000
They're already getting seven extra representatives than
what they should get. Now we

734
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.880
get some illegals in a while,
but not not as many, and so

735
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:53.440
a lot of people say, oh, well, you should be more welcoming

736
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:58.920
to illegals. No, we should
secure our borders. We should secure our

737
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:02.280
borders, and we stop doing that
with the census. I mean, if

738
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:07.159
you don't, if you don't defend
sanity. You know, Congress represents American

739
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:12.559
citizens, you know, you have
If you're not an American and you're in

740
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:16.239
America, you have representation. It's
at an embassy or a consulate, you

741
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:21.119
know, and we should get our
laws to represent that. And if you

742
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:24.920
don't do any of that, like
you're said, in the administration keeps winning

743
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:30.840
in court to stop states like Texas
from securing the border and defending the country.

744
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:34.559
I don't see how we stay people. I mean, people are sick

745
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:38.239
of it. Warren Davidson, once
again member of the Freedom Caucaus, stays

746
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:40.639
strong. I know you will.
I'm not sure about a lot of the

747
00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:45.599
other ones. I know you will. Congressman Warren Davidson, Freedom Caucus of

748
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:47.360
Ohio. Thank you for coming on
the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you,

749
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:52.000
Congressman. Yeah, thanks, Willie. It's always an honor. God bless

750
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:54.599
you and your listener, and God
bless America. Let's continue with more Bill

751
00:56:54.639 --> 00:57:06.079
Cunningham, with you every Sunday night. Billy Cunningham. I love spending time

752
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.400
with him because he's a rock conservative. One point he brought up late,

753
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:14.360
the more illegals in each state,
the more representation they get. And that's

754
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:17.480
another that's one of the goals of
the Marxist Democratic Party. Let's continue with

755
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:21.960
more Bill Cunningham, the Great American, with you every sumthing. You know,

756
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.880
Bill Cunningham, Great American. Of
course, later on we scheduled Senator

757
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.320
Rand Paul to come in and talk
about what's going to happen on Wednesday with

758
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:42.840
the bill, the Illegal Alien Bill, which, according to media accounts which

759
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:46.960
may be accurate or not, that
the Republicans Mitch McConnell. May a streamline

760
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:52.280
five thousand per day coming into this
country illegally before certain powers kick in.

761
00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:57.440
But one person is covering these issues
and so much more for a long time,

762
00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:00.599
as Leland vidtert of News Nation on
every night Eastern Time at seven o'clock

763
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.679
and Leland Vedert, welcome again to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And Leland,

764
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:08.679
I want to go off base a
little bit here because I watch you most

765
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:14.000
Monday through Friday at seven o'clock on
News Nation. You've been covering a story

766
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:20.239
about the farmers in Europe. We
have explain, explained that place not American

767
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:24.360
farmers. We appreciate the Loyalty bill. These are farmers in Europe and it

768
00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:30.039
is a class warfare between the climate
elites in Europe, which are a lot

769
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:36.039
more active and successful relatively speaking,
in the climate elites in the United States

770
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:42.199
have been They are the model for
green energy restrictions on farmers, admissions restrictions,

771
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:45.280
pollution restrictions. In Ireland, the
government wanted to kill two hundred thousand

772
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:52.239
cows to meet climate goals, and
the farmers across Europe are revolting. They

773
00:58:52.360 --> 00:59:00.679
have pumped manure into government buildings and
around government buildings. They have laid dirt

774
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:06.599
down on highways, They've driven their
tractors and combines to surround government buildings.

775
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:12.480
Quote from a fellow where we talked
to over who's covering this, and this

776
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:15.920
is from an Irish farmer. The
whole farming community right across Europe are being

777
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:21.400
decimated by politicians in the Green agenda, which is demonizing farmers as criminals in

778
00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:28.679
food production. And you know this, the ideas and the restrictions on personal

779
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:32.639
liberty that start in Europe come to
America. What six months later, twelve

780
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:38.320
months later, It's just it's a
continuation. And there's now a trending hashtag

781
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:43.800
on Twitter and Europe no Farmers,
no food right. This sort of goes

782
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:47.679
to the very basics of a society, and farmers aren't one to normally complained,

783
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:52.400
but they in their hearty bunch were
grateful for them. I know a

784
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:54.920
lot of your listeners are farmers,
but at some point, when you can't

785
00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:59.599
make any money and you're working as
hard as they do, they get irritated.

786
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.800
That's what's happening. As far as
what's happening in Europe, it's not

787
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:07.199
well covered here in America. I'm
glad you're doing it, because farmers get

788
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:12.679
up every day. There's no holidays, there's no three day weekends, there's

789
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:16.239
no time off. It's twenty four
to seven. And without farming, without

790
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:21.280
farmers, we don't eat. And
the climate elites in Europe want to throw

791
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:25.800
Kansas soup on the Mona Lisa as
an indication of their green agenda. And

792
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:31.760
if you don't have farming, we
have a serious problem. And can you

793
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:37.639
go over the two or three things
that European governments are forcing the farmers to

794
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:42.559
do that make no sense, doesn't
improve the climate, doesn't improve the environment.

795
01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:45.440
What are the two or three things
if you're in Ireland, if you're

796
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:52.559
in England killed two hundred thousand cows
because of methane because of the flatulence.

797
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.880
And German farmers in France are more
radical. And I don't know if the

798
01:00:55.880 --> 01:01:00.280
Olympics this summer are going to come
off. I look at the i'm at

799
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:02.119
elites and what they do to the
Mona Lisa. I can only imagine what

800
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:06.960
they're going to do to the US
Olympic, to the Olympic teams in Paris.

801
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:09.880
But what are the two or three
things that the farmers find so objectionable

802
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:15.679
they're willing to leave their farms,
leave their animals and spread manure all over

803
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:20.280
Paris. Explain the two or three
things, Well, I think you said

804
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:22.960
the first one is the killing of
their animals, right, And that's not

805
01:01:23.199 --> 01:01:29.119
just an idea in Ireland that has
been proposed by the European Union in various

806
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:34.960
countries for them for those countries to
meet the climate quote unquote goals or requirements

807
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:39.400
that are put on there's severe restrictions
on the type of the type of ways

808
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:45.159
that farmers can farm in the environmental
regulations they have to go through. That

809
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:49.519
means they have to change the way
they farm. That makes it not only

810
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:53.199
unprofitable, it means they lose money. And third of all, there's the

811
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:59.119
taxes and dot dot dot. The
restrictions on diesel fuel, which obviously is

812
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:01.920
a huge input, means people have
to buy new farming equipment and have to

813
01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:06.360
if you have to use your old
farming equipment, it costs a lot more.

814
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:10.960
So in each of the countries,
there are slightly different, uh issues

815
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:16.159
at play. I think what you
can kind of get caught pretty, you

816
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:21.000
know, deep in the weeds of
you know what, what size engine can

817
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.000
attract or have in this country,
and on and on and on. The

818
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:28.639
larger issue I think is the class
the class war issue, right of of

819
01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:36.480
this sort of climate elite of folks
who believe in climate orthodoxy and saving the

820
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:42.800
planet from admissions of any type,
and that by limiting admissions from cows you

821
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.559
can somehow cool the planet off.
They believe this, and they believe that

822
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:51.280
the uh ends justify the means right, so and they're you know, they

823
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.239
don't really care. They're gonna fly
their private jets anyway, so they have

824
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:59.639
no problem enforcing these restrictions on on
farmers and then making the rest of us

825
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:02.480
pay the for And as far as
inflation in Europe, we have an inflation

826
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:07.039
problem here, but it's nothing like
Europe because there's only a few thousand farmers

827
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:13.480
in France who feed about one hundred
and twenty five million people. Don't exist.

828
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:16.920
And then say also the fertilizers being
used has to all change that the

829
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:22.679
elites out of these colleges and universities
who have these theories. When theories meet

830
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:28.039
reality, normally reality wins. Is
there a sense Leland Vidder of News Nation,

831
01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:30.960
is there a sense that the politician
is going to back off, especially

832
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:36.440
in Ireland, where they're telling the
farmers to kill their to kill their farm

833
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:40.000
animals because of flatulence. Is there
a sense the elites are listening or will

834
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:45.360
prices continue to rise in Europe going
right down the tubes because they can't eat

835
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.280
well. They've backed off in France
so far, there's been no cow killing

836
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:54.519
in Ireland yet, but the farmers
are still quite angry. I read you

837
01:03:54.519 --> 01:04:00.199
that quote earlier from one farmer who
we've been following in this, Michael Murphy,

838
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:05.559
who's a former UK Telegraph reporter who
has been going around the countries of

839
01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:11.679
Europe reporting on this issue and the
spread from Portugal all the way through the

840
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:18.760
Netherlands of this movement. Emanuel mccroone, the president of France, according to

841
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:25.760
Michael's reporting, has backed off a
very little bit. He wants to quell

842
01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:30.840
the quote. Peasants revolt is what
mcrone has called it. And and this

843
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:33.960
is quoting Michael. Meanwhile, mister
McCrone was in coat tails dining with Swedish

844
01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:40.559
royals in Stockholm. It doesn't get
more lated than that. Do you see

845
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:44.239
this coming to America? Can you
see? Uh? There are farmers in

846
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:46.159
Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Iowa. Believe it or not, there's a

847
01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:51.239
huge farming community in California. In
fact, California produces most of our produce,

848
01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:56.000
right, And you said, he
said, was it's gonna happen here?

849
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:00.199
Greach great agreement is another one of
their big complaints. And where I'm

850
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:05.880
from in northern far northern Michigan,
the cherry capital of America. The airport

851
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:10.519
there is named Cherry Capital Airport,
home of the National Cherry Festival up there

852
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:14.400
in Traversity, Michigan. There's a
lot of farmers now who it's not worth

853
01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:18.239
it for them to farm. They're
they're letting their trees go because of cheap

854
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:25.000
imports from Turkey. So people are
angry. And I think, you know,

855
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:29.159
you're going to see this spread quickly, and I think it's going to

856
01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:30.840
be fascinating to watch. There's a
lot of there's a lot of farming in

857
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:34.199
Georgia. There's a lot of farming
in Pennsylvania. There's a lot of farming

858
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:38.519
in North Carolina. Right, There's
a lot of farming in Ohio. There's

859
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:40.800
a lot of farming in Wisconsin.
You want to talk about cows, go

860
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:43.960
to Wisconsin and I will ask you, as the great American, what do

861
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:47.039
all those states have in common that
might be important in November? Electoral votes?

862
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:53.320
There you go and electoral votes,
and when people can't get a double

863
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:58.800
cheeseburger from Wendy's, my favorite fast
food restaurant in some chili and California is

864
01:05:58.800 --> 01:06:02.280
a great example. Californ is going
down the tubes. A large percentage of

865
01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:09.559
our produce comes out of California.
And if California farmers do what in Sacramento,

866
01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:13.039
what's happening in Paris six months or
a year from now, then all

867
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:15.559
hell's going to break loose. And
I don't think it'll happen to after the

868
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:18.480
election goes. If the Democrats win
and take the House, the Senate,

869
01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:23.239
and the presidency here or continue with
it in November, and the policies are

870
01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:26.880
going to be implemented here and cracked
down. I mean right now, Democrats

871
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:30.840
are unhappy that we're producing more oil
right now than Saudi Arabia or Russia.

872
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:34.159
They don't like that. They think
that Biden has not really kept his promise

873
01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:39.440
on the environment. You can imagine
what's happening in Madison, Wisconsin, Columbus,

874
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:43.559
Ohio. What's happening in Harris,
Pennsylvania, or Sacramento, California.

875
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:47.519
Florida has a huge, huge farming
factors is Georgia. You can't feed three

876
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:53.039
hundred and forty million Americans with climate
elites work in the fields. And if

877
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:57.440
in fact, the US Census Bureau
is correct that in about twenty five years,

878
01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:00.719
in the year twenty fifty, twenty
fifty, we're going to have at

879
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:04.639
least one hundred million more persons living
in America, that many of whom are

880
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:08.960
not citizens, and they have to
eat, and they have to drink water,

881
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:12.440
they have to use the environment.
We need more farming, not less.

882
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:15.880
We need more open land, not
less. We need more uh more

883
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:21.239
individuals in manufacturing and in transportation,
not less. And I watched the other

884
01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:26.079
day you had on or maybe it
was Chris Cromo, the leader of the

885
01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:30.199
Teamsters, talking about maybe we're not
going to endorse someone this year because they

886
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:33.719
can't stand the fact that the current
Democratic Party is so left wing they've lost

887
01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:39.559
their way, and so it isn't
Maybe some of the environment meental rules and

888
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:43.320
regulations of the EPAY, etc.
Are going to be held after the election

889
01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:46.719
and then be imposed because they're not
they're not backing down now. Secondly,

890
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:49.559
you have seen, as I have, what happened in New York City.

891
01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:55.199
NYPD beaten the crap out of those
two in uniform cops. You spend time

892
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:58.519
in New York. I spent five
years there with my TV show, and

893
01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:03.440
from that I engendered great respect for
NYPD under Giuliani and Bloomberg the best of

894
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:09.400
finest. To watch two NYPD cops
getting kicked in the head by illegal immigrants

895
01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:13.800
and having one of them flipped the
bird. They're supposedly on buses to go

896
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:16.319
back to Mexico. There was no
bond set whatsoever. Yeah, you had

897
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:21.600
that the marine named Penny who saved
the lives of fellow subway riders, who

898
01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:25.840
was locked up and given a big
bond, And that's been an issue.

899
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:29.520
So on Wednesday, when this bill
is announced, all hell's about to break

900
01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:31.960
loose. How can you cover this
incident in such a way to be objective,

901
01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:35.880
but you have to have particular feelings
for cops that have treat their heads

902
01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:41.880
like soccer balls. What's your thought
on that. I looked at the video

903
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:45.399
of the illegal immigrant who have been
let out on bail or let out with

904
01:08:45.479 --> 01:08:49.319
no bail, after beating up the
New York cops. As the picture worth

905
01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:55.319
a thousand words, and in that
it encapsulated everything that's happened over the past

906
01:08:55.359 --> 01:08:58.119
five years. Now you can like
what's happened, or you could not like

907
01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:00.760
west happened. Eighty percent of Americans
they were on the wrong track. I

908
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:04.720
would suggest that that's one of the
reasons. Defund the police, no bail,

909
01:09:05.159 --> 01:09:11.359
sorrows funded prosecutors who won't prosecute,
sanctuary cities, Defund the police,

910
01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:18.439
open borders, free asylum for anybody
who comes through. You could probably blue

911
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:23.000
cities into decline. You could probably
add a few more things that that picture

912
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:27.119
captures. And again, I'm a
journalist, you're a commentator. I ask

913
01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:31.359
questions, not make statements. Eighty
percent of Americans think the country's on the

914
01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:36.279
wrong track. Line, there's twenty
percent of America that look at that picture

915
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:39.920
and go, hey, that's what
we want. So there you go.

916
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:45.279
That's kind of the In Europe they're
called the climate elites. Here they're called

917
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:48.680
progressives. And I can only imagine
when a progressive can eat, that progressive

918
01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:53.680
may become a conservative because everybody wants
to eat. And I can't imagine the

919
01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:58.239
country staying on this course over the
next several years getting better results. And

920
01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:01.880
I don't know what's going to happen
with all the attacks and what's happening right

921
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:08.840
now with the American military going after
the hooties and terrorist groups in a rock

922
01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:12.520
all hell's break and loose? Hey, have you lived in a more tumultuous

923
01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:15.199
time in which people are at each
other's throats? And that there's a sense

924
01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:21.039
that Trump should not be elected because
of his peccadillos and the warfare. There's

925
01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:25.439
a sense that Democrats have control of
the blue cities and blue states is not

926
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:29.319
going to change anytime soon. Leland
vit or go to thirty thousand feet.

927
01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:33.359
And when you report on what's happening, don't you sense that America is almost

928
01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:36.319
in the Civil war footing, which
I would find disgusting. I don't want

929
01:10:36.359 --> 01:10:41.640
anything like that to happen again.
But why the angst that we feel is

930
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:46.640
fundamental despite good numbers about the employment
to spite good numbers on inflation might be

931
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:50.279
three or four percent, to spite
good numbers unemployment rate. Isn't there a

932
01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:57.359
sense that the average American Democrat and
Republicans say that we're in trouble well is

933
01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:00.960
Abraham Lincoln setting is often quoted don't
believe everything you read on the Internet,

934
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:08.239
And I would argue it a little
differently. I think you're right to point

935
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:13.039
out that how divided America is,
but I would almost say that that is

936
01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:15.960
a function of how good everything is
in America, and how good everything has

937
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:20.399
been for the past forty years since
the Berlin Wall felt thanks to Ronald Reagan

938
01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:28.680
and George H. W. Bush
and a strong America with meaningful foreign policy.

939
01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:33.439
And since then life's been pretty good. We've faced no existential threats.

940
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:36.159
To nine to eleven was certainly terrible. The financial crisis was bad. But

941
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:41.520
price's really really good here. That's
why so many people want to come here,

942
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:43.920
the millions who come across. You
know, we're trying to break into

943
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:47.760
other countries. And I would say, I think, I think the people

944
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:51.880
who are so angry on Twitter and
have such a vitriol, I don't think

945
01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:56.039
they have any idea how to even
come close to having a civil war,

946
01:11:56.039 --> 01:12:00.039
because that we would involve for most
of them actually having to have courage of

947
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:03.600
their convictions and and follow through on
that. I know you said, oh

948
01:12:03.640 --> 01:12:06.560
well, January sixth, and then
the writers can say, oh, well,

949
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:10.560
what about the BLM riots. But
by and large, you're talking about

950
01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:15.119
a very very small number of Americans, the vast majority of Americans. And

951
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:18.800
then I talked to it. I
think that we broadcast toy. They want

952
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:24.439
cheap gas, they want their kids
to learn in school, they want a

953
01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:27.800
better life for their kids when they
grow up. They want to be able

954
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:31.640
to retire and have their savings worth
something. They want to be able to

955
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:38.720
drive down the street without being carjacked. It's pretty basic desires, and I

956
01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:43.920
think that that intel we're able to
fulfill those, You're going to have a

957
01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:46.960
lot of people who are very angry. But I think I think that the

958
01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:50.760
Civil War rhetoric, at least,
you know, quoting in Abraham Lincoln,

959
01:12:51.479 --> 01:12:56.560
maybe a little far off. All
right, Well, you know, everyone's

960
01:12:56.600 --> 01:13:00.279
life individually might be good, but
everyone else other's life is probably bad.

961
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:03.000
And so that that's the point that
somehow our lives are good. But I

962
01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:05.640
if you can't watch the media and
come away thinking, boy, we're in

963
01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:09.359
good shape in this country. Everything's
good. Oh don't believe it, you

964
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:13.800
Bill, Bill, don't believe everything
you see on TV. I do,

965
01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:15.640
I do, I believe everything that
I see. No, I don't.

966
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:19.000
But the fact of the matter is
that these are the best of times and

967
01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:23.439
the worst of times. It depends
how you look at things. But Leland

968
01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:26.640
Vitter, thanks for coming on again. We'll keep the lines of communication open.

969
01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:30.880
I'll be watching and every night Monday
through Friday on News Nation at seven

970
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:33.079
o'clock. And Leland Vitter, thank
you very much again for coming on the

971
01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:38.079
Thank you, Leland. Let's continue
Bill cunning in The Grand American Live with

972
01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:49.239
you every Sunday night and the Leland
Vetter News Nation seven o'clock Monday through Friday.

973
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:58.359
And I love little things that indicate
bigger problems. There's probably no group

974
01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:03.960
of Americans or no group of Europeans
more attached to the land and to those

975
01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:09.560
who live off of it than American
or European farmers. Would you agree,

976
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:15.000
Probably that they're connected. And so
when the farmers of Spain and France and

977
01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:21.680
Ireland and Germany Holland arise and they
take thousands and thousands of their machinery and

978
01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:28.159
they encircle government buildings in Paris and
say we can't take it anymore. We've

979
01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:32.600
had enough. It's over. Whether
it's the restrictions on fertilizer, the restrictions

980
01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:38.239
of the number of farm animals one
might have. The environmental restrictions put out

981
01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:42.399
by university types that don't apply to
a man or to a woman with his

982
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:46.840
or her hands in the dirt producing
the goods that people eat every day.

983
01:14:46.880 --> 01:14:53.439
It's amazing to me the liberals think
these food fruits and vegetables and farm animals

984
01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:59.960
and hamburgers and chicken marcellus and lobster
and all the rest simply magically appear.

985
01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:02.800
I don't think so. And so
Leland Vettererck makes the point. He thinks

986
01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:06.680
it a good chance that down the
road, sometime in the next year or

987
01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:11.680
two or less, American farmers are
going to say we can't take it anymore

988
01:15:12.239 --> 01:15:16.680
to order as Ireland is trying to
do that. Irish farmers kill two hundred

989
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:25.399
thousand cows fifty thousand pigs because of
environmental damage is utterly ridiculous. It's policy

990
01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:29.720
that makes no sense whatsoever. I'll
stay tuned for more coming up next to

991
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:33.560
Jessica Anderson, She's going to talk
about the more results on the Southern border,

992
01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:38.000
how disaster it is. It is. Go cunning in the Great American

993
01:15:38.079 --> 01:16:14.640
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996
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997
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excellence, the one and only Bill
Cunningham. Bill Cunningham, the Great American.

998
01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:41.279
And of course immigration, illegal migration
into America is the top issue in

999
01:16:41.359 --> 01:16:45.359
America today. And I see that
after the NYPD cops were beaten down by

1000
01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:49.600
illegal immigrants, and after their release
with no bond, at least one of

1001
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:54.319
them flipped the bird to the news
media as it left. And even now

1002
01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:59.560
Governor Hockel of New York may take
this thing more seriously. We've gone from

1003
01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:04.159
saying cities and sanctuary states too.
We can't take it anymore. Jessica Anderson,

1004
01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:08.560
as the president of the Sentinel Action
Funnel, we'll get the website for

1005
01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:11.760
you later on if you want to
be involved in that. And she says

1006
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:15.000
Democrats are now beginning to feel the
political pressure to secure the border, and

1007
01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:19.239
Jessica Anderson Welcome to the Bill Cunningham
Show. And here's the first inquiry I

1008
01:17:19.319 --> 01:17:25.039
like to make that it appears the
Democrats now have a plan to blame the

1009
01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:29.960
Republicans for what's happening on the southern
border. Can you tell me the two

1010
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:35.199
or three things that President Joe Biden
could do now that would significantly change the

1011
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:41.239
southern border without any more money being
appropriated, and the Republicans are not involved

1012
01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:45.840
in that. What could he do
but refuses to do so? Oh man,

1013
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:49.680
thanks Bill so much for having me
and drawing attention to this incredibly important

1014
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:55.000
issue. You're exactly right. Joe
Biden created this border crisis, and he

1015
01:17:55.039 --> 01:18:00.840
actually did it via executive orders,
and so he can undo it with executive

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01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:05.199
orders or by simply enforcing the laws
from the Trump administration that are currently on

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01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:09.520
the books, and so some of
those specifics. In the first one hundred

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01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:15.079
days of his administration, he actually
signed over ninety four executive orders reversing the

1019
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:19.159
very effective Trump era border security policies. So he needs to go back,

1020
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:23.720
he needs to rewind put all of
those in place. He can do that

1021
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:28.800
without the House, without the Senate. That is pure executive action. Over

1022
01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:34.199
the course of really the last year, he's taken an additional sixty four actions

1023
01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:39.760
to weaken security at the southern border. Of course he could reverse that as

1024
01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:45.119
well, all sixty four of those
actions. So it's really difficult when the

1025
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:48.880
left is trying to say, well, the Republicans have caused this crisis,

1026
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:54.079
that is so far from the truth. Joe Biden created this border crisis.

1027
01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:58.159
He did it with executive orders.
He can undo it with executive orders.

1028
01:18:58.439 --> 01:19:01.000
And that doesn't even start with that. The House has already done in passing

1029
01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:05.039
HR two, which as we know, is a comprehensive border bill that would

1030
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:11.760
give actual border security to a very
poor sporer, and that, coupled with

1031
01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:15.479
Biden turning the ship around, would
would bring security to our southern border.

1032
01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:17.479
So when I watched the nightly news, which I do so you don't have

1033
01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:23.159
to, we never get that information. We're told by Joe Biden over the

1034
01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:26.640
line of a helicopter, give me
the power, give me the money,

1035
01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:30.800
I'll fix the problem. And the
next question is why don't you enact to

1036
01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:34.640
stay in Mexico policy, Why don't
you quit parolling people inside of America,

1037
01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:41.319
Why don't you give the ability of
border patrol agents to take illegal migrants and

1038
01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:44.800
ship them back to their home country. He doesn't do any of that stuff.

1039
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:48.600
But the media is not in the
business of telling the American people the

1040
01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:53.760
reality of what Joe Biden has done. And I have a thought, Jessica,

1041
01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:58.199
that maybe Joe Biden is so incompetent
he doesn't know what he's doing mentally,

1042
01:19:58.439 --> 01:20:02.760
and that the staff around him left
over some brock Hussein Obama's administration is

1043
01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:08.760
actually running the presidency and Joe Biden
doesn't know what he's doing. Is that

1044
01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:13.239
a possibility, very much so.
And I think it's even worse when you

1045
01:20:13.319 --> 01:20:16.479
consider he might have actually meant what
he said when he put Kamala Harris in

1046
01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:20.640
charge of the border. She's supposed
to be the so called borders are and

1047
01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:24.600
when was the last time she even
went to the southern border. It was

1048
01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:30.640
once in twenty twenty one. So
the administration can control the crisis. They

1049
01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:36.239
are actively choosing not. They have
apprehended nearly six million illegal crossers from the

1050
01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:42.880
beginning of the Biden administration, and
honestly that number is probably higher. That's

1051
01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:46.319
just six million that we know about. And then they the Biden administration has

1052
01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:53.000
then turned around and released half three
point three million of these legals into the

1053
01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:58.239
country, with over ninety nine percent
of these illegals still residing in the United

1054
01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:02.600
States. So you know this is
a first when you hear the Biden administration

1055
01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:08.039
saying they can't control it, they
need more power, they need more executive

1056
01:21:08.039 --> 01:21:11.680
actions. They have all of the
authority to do that, they're choosing not

1057
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:15.800
to, and they're choosing to flood
our country with illegals. I believe intentionally

1058
01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:20.279
this is part of a larger political
posturing that they have to not only keep

1059
01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:27.760
immigration as part of their talking points
for the next election, but to create

1060
01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:31.119
more voters in the United States,
where you have same day voter registration and

1061
01:21:31.159 --> 01:21:33.640
in a lot of states you don't
have to have an ID. So put

1062
01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:39.279
two and two together and you get
four, well eighteen states, at least

1063
01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:45.560
eighteen states have drivers licenses issued to
illegal aliens and that automatically registers that person

1064
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:49.399
to vote, and then the Secretary
of the States in those seventeen states send

1065
01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:56.399
out the ballot to every registered voter, and there's no confirmation as the citizenship,

1066
01:21:56.680 --> 01:22:00.079
there's no confirmation as to a signature
match. And so behind this is

1067
01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:04.800
twenty thirty, another census is coming, and the census is based upon persons

1068
01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:10.159
in a state, not citizens in
a state, and so by Illinois,

1069
01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:15.560
New York, California, they can
overwhelm due to the census and reapportionment congressional

1070
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:19.800
seats from Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, and from all the Red states.

1071
01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:27.319
Is that long term they have the
news media generally on their side to relate

1072
01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:31.199
lies to the American people. Secondly, we've had anywhere between ten and twelve

1073
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:36.479
million illegals enter the country under the
last three years or so under Biden,

1074
01:22:36.880 --> 01:22:42.720
and they generally are dispersed to Blue
states Colorado, Denver right now is in

1075
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:48.039
complete chaos and is the goal then
through reapportionment, to make sure that the

1076
01:22:48.079 --> 01:22:54.239
Red states lose representation in the Congress. So in the House of Representatives there's

1077
01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:58.720
never going to be a Republican majority
of any great note there because of reapportionment.

1078
01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:03.840
And secondly, it creates utter chaos
and confusion and anger. But at

1079
01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:11.359
the end of the day, doesn't
this play politically positively for Democrats? I'd

1080
01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:16.000
put it this way. The left
cannot win the messaging war on the issues

1081
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:19.640
they're running on today. Right the
economy is upside down. The border is

1082
01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:24.439
a mess. Parents are losing control
of their kids in schools, they're being

1083
01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:28.520
sexualized, They're not able to have
a say in what they're learning. Kids

1084
01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:30.800
can't get a job, college costs
too much. What of that are Democrats

1085
01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:33.119
going to run on? Right,
there's nothing that they can run on.

1086
01:23:33.439 --> 01:23:40.439
So they need a new voting population
to bolster their election outcomes. They need

1087
01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:43.399
new voters, so they have to
go find them. Where they can't find

1088
01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:45.279
them, they need to make them. And so you know, it's not

1089
01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:49.479
being a conspiracy theorist. No,
just try to put the dots together to

1090
01:23:49.640 --> 01:23:57.399
understand why would the Biden administration intentionally
allow the border to be as open and

1091
01:23:57.560 --> 01:24:02.399
dangerous as it is now because they
see the same the border patrol agents don't

1092
01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:08.880
change. Those are god fearing,
god loving American patriots day in and day

1093
01:24:08.920 --> 01:24:14.439
out that are not being allowed to
do their job. There's a political will

1094
01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:18.800
that is over on top of public
servants, essentially what these good border patrol

1095
01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:23.640
agents are. So let's not kid
ourselves about what's happening here. They are

1096
01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:28.479
putting the Left is putting their political
will above the law, and then that

1097
01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:32.119
allows even more chaos to bread even
more chaos at our southern border. So

1098
01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:36.520
I think it's wise of us to
be clear about the threats we are facing.

1099
01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:42.159
It's wise of us to understand the
stakes of how high this election is

1100
01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:45.399
that's coming November. It's the presidency, it's the majority in the Senate,

1101
01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:50.319
it's keeping the House, and it's
finally having all three levers of power to

1102
01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:57.800
get a comprehensive border package done that
secures the border first and foremost in the

1103
01:24:57.840 --> 01:25:01.119
way that President Trump did for his
four years in office. So, Jessica

1104
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:05.560
Anderson of the Sentinel Action Fund,
you're saying that there is not additional money

1105
01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:11.720
needed. In the media, every
time they have a chance to ask a

1106
01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:15.359
Biden administration official or Joe Biden can't
even do a news conference, say why

1107
01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:20.520
don't you use executive action to correct
the border? And they're relying upon the

1108
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:26.239
so called mainstream media, which is
losing its pinache in order to keep communicating

1109
01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:30.279
lies to the American people. Would
base the decision not on truth but something

1110
01:25:30.279 --> 01:25:32.439
else. Can we step back a
little bit and talk about the men,

1111
01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:39.239
women and children coming across the southern
border in the last three years plus the

1112
01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:43.399
numbers between ten and fifteen million.
I read a report from the US Census

1113
01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:46.199
Survey that if we continue on this
path, by the year twenty fifty,

1114
01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:51.840
which seems like forever, but twenty, we're as close to the year nineteen

1115
01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:56.520
ninety nine as we are to twenty
fifty. And so in the next what

1116
01:25:56.640 --> 01:26:00.760
twenty five twenty six years, there's
going to be at least another one hundred

1117
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:05.079
million Americans inside this country who are
not vetted, living and doing whatever,

1118
01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:11.199
overwhelming the schools, the emergency rooms, the highways, pollution, food requirements,

1119
01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:15.079
medicine, et cetera. What does
America look like in twenty fifty.

1120
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:18.039
I may not be there, but
I think you'll be there. What will

1121
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:24.039
America look like if we stick with
the interchangeable drill bit have either Biden,

1122
01:26:24.359 --> 01:26:29.279
Kamala Harris, Michelle Obama, Gavin
Newsoen, wide open southern border, keep

1123
01:26:29.359 --> 01:26:32.159
blaming the Republicans for not giving money
when it's not needed. What does America

1124
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:36.680
look like in twenty fifty If that
report of four hundred and sixty million Americans

1125
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:42.479
is true, well, we can't. We can't allow that to happen.

1126
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:47.359
I think there are too many conservative
loving Americans, common sense Americans across the

1127
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:51.720
country that are going to fight this
election twenty twenty six, twenty twenty eight

1128
01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:59.720
to ensure that the Democrats are not
allowed to run rampant over our American institution

1129
01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:02.520
and our way of life, and
our culture, and our government and our

1130
01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:06.920
foreign policy. I mean, is
it's it's okay to I think, look

1131
01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:12.039
at the concerns going forward, but
that fight is not over. I mean,

1132
01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:15.159
we have not lost our country.
Yes, things are dire and they

1133
01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:18.399
look bleak, but Bill, you
know this, I know this. Anytime

1134
01:27:18.439 --> 01:27:21.119
you go hunting, what do we
say in the morning, Well, the

1135
01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:26.159
sun peeks out after it's just the
darkest and we are in a dark period

1136
01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:29.319
right now. But the sun is
right over the horizon. And a lot

1137
01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:33.039
of this can be turned around with
a strong executive actions, with a Senate

1138
01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:39.439
that is actually controlled by conservatives,
not Rhinos, not Democrats, but actual

1139
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:43.159
conservatives. And we have the chance
for both of these those things this coming

1140
01:27:43.199 --> 01:27:45.880
November. And you know, I
want to go back to your first question

1141
01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:48.399
of you know, when when Biden
is saying, well, he needs more

1142
01:27:48.439 --> 01:27:53.039
power to do something or he needs
more money. In the first one hundred

1143
01:27:53.079 --> 01:28:00.560
days of his administration, remember he
rapidly signed ninety four executive orders reversing effective

1144
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:05.439
Trump error border security policies. He
can go back and reverse all of those.

1145
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:12.680
He then went further and took sixty
four additional actions to weaken security at

1146
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:15.800
the southern border. He can go
back. He himself holds that authority.

1147
01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:19.760
He can go back and overturn all
of that. It would take less than

1148
01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:25.199
a day of signing documents. So
let's not kid ourselves about who has the

1149
01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:30.399
power to turn this crisis around.
Biden does tell us how much money's involved

1150
01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:35.640
on the southern border. How does
a person get from Nicaragua to l passo

1151
01:28:35.800 --> 01:28:41.439
Ego Pass? How does somebody find
their way from Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan?

1152
01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:45.640
Groups of individuals, Someone in Kabbola, Afghanistan didn't wake up this morning

1153
01:28:45.640 --> 01:28:48.000
and say, you know what,
I kind of want to go to Ego

1154
01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:51.520
Pass. It doesn't work that way. Can you kind of talk about the

1155
01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:58.560
tens of thousands of generally unattached single
mails and why they're useful idiots by the

1156
01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:01.000
cartels? What happen happens to the
men, the women and the children,

1157
01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:05.560
And how do you get from Europe, Asia Africa to Egle Pass? How

1158
01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:14.239
does that work well. Unfortunately,
there is a underground network of cartels and

1159
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:20.560
NPOs nonprofit organizations that have really nice
sounding names that are you know, I

1160
01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:27.680
think trying to talk about a humanitarian
crisis, that they're really just complicit in

1161
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:32.520
creating a larger humanitarian crisis. But
this, this network of cartels and NPOs

1162
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:38.880
and other bad actors all across the
globe. I believe that they work in

1163
01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:45.600
tandem and that they've created major kind
of hubs south of the border for people

1164
01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:49.760
to meet, to then get organized
to then cross illegally. I mean,

1165
01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:56.159
it's not a surprise when you see
the crossings of fifty to two hundred people

1166
01:29:56.199 --> 01:30:00.239
at a time. It's not single
you know, single onesies and twosies people

1167
01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:03.560
just running across. It's organized,
it's comprehensive, and it's just really bad.

1168
01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:08.720
You know, Bill, I actually
lived in southern Arizona for some time

1169
01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:13.079
in the early twenty tens, and
we lived just south of Tucson, so

1170
01:30:13.119 --> 01:30:16.720
we were just south of the border
check in that's in Tucson, Arizona,

1171
01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:20.119
and I would actually when I would
drive to the airport in Tucson from the

1172
01:30:20.159 --> 01:30:24.760
town I was living in Sierra Visa, I would drive that forty five minutes

1173
01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:27.560
to the airport or so maybe it
was like an hour, and I would

1174
01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:31.920
literally see women's heels shoes on the
side of the road because the cartels had

1175
01:30:31.960 --> 01:30:36.800
told these women that it was just
a day's walk or it was a couple

1176
01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:41.319
of hours walk, and they would
be wearing high heels, and they they'd

1177
01:30:41.359 --> 01:30:45.680
have these that they're telling a lie. And then they're bringing people not only

1178
01:30:45.720 --> 01:30:50.199
illegally but sometimes even against their will, sadly into the United States. And

1179
01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:54.760
it's the cartels, it's the NPOs, and we need to have I think

1180
01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:59.520
a heavy arm of accountability. The
House Oversight Committee is trying to have that.

1181
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:02.600
Now there needs to be even more
of it to stop it. Well,

1182
01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:06.239
Jessica Anderson sent no Action fund.
We're in trouble. We're in big

1183
01:31:06.279 --> 01:31:14.439
trouble. And informed electorate is democracy's
number one virtue. And those who care

1184
01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:16.479
about this issue, and almost all
of us do. If you understand what's

1185
01:31:16.479 --> 01:31:19.119
happening, the women that are raped, the men that are killed, the

1186
01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:24.079
families that are separated at the fentanyl
coming in. One hundred thousand Americans killed

1187
01:31:24.119 --> 01:31:28.079
every year by fentanyl, and there's
no appetite by the Democrats to change it.

1188
01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:30.640
Even today, they don't want to
change it. They want to vilify

1189
01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:35.079
Johnson, the Speaker of the House. They want to have a warfare law

1190
01:31:35.159 --> 01:31:39.239
fair against Donald Trump to make sure
he didn't get in, and all the

1191
01:31:39.279 --> 01:31:42.800
bad stuff they have planned for the
Trumpster is probably going to accelerate between now

1192
01:31:42.840 --> 01:31:45.680
and November the fifth. It's going
to get worse, not better. But

1193
01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:48.760
if they had the appetite to correct
this problem, they can do it without

1194
01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:54.680
congressional action, because Trump did it
without executive action. He did it with

1195
01:31:54.840 --> 01:31:58.399
executive action, but without the content
out Congress. He did it, and

1196
01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:00.680
Biden can do the exact same though. That's the whole point here, and

1197
01:32:01.279 --> 01:32:06.520
we just need to keep pushing it
back on them and just reminding, reminding

1198
01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:12.119
everyone that will listen to us that
this is a this is a crisis that

1199
01:32:12.600 --> 01:32:17.199
that President Biden and Borders our Kamala
Harris have intentionally created, and they hold

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01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:21.920
the powers to overturn it. Jessica
Anderson Sentinel Action fun. I pray you're

1201
01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:26.319
right. I think you're wrong,
but I pray that you're right because we

1202
01:32:26.399 --> 01:32:30.239
got to take our country back.
Jessica Anderson, once again, thank you

1203
01:32:30.279 --> 01:32:32.640
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Jessica, Thank you

1204
01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:35.439
for having me. Bill, God
bless you. Let's continue with more Bill

1205
01:32:35.479 --> 01:32:40.920
Cunningham, The Great American Live with
You Every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham,

1206
01:32:40.960 --> 01:32:45.680
The Great American, Jessica Anderson.
In relationship to what was announced about six

1207
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:49.640
forty pm tonight, this two hundred
and seventy page monstrosity coming out of the

1208
01:32:49.720 --> 01:32:56.560
Senate brings some great points to the
table, including the fact that the media,

1209
01:32:57.359 --> 01:33:01.079
headquartered by Meet the Press and others, simply want to blame Republicans for

1210
01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:04.119
what's happening on the southern border.
They want to shift the blame in your

1211
01:33:04.199 --> 01:33:11.560
mind from Joe Biden to Mike Johnson
to Donald Trump. That's what they want

1212
01:33:11.560 --> 01:33:15.239
to do. Do you buy it? Do you think somehow, some way

1213
01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:18.800
the Republicans are responsible for the behavior
of Joe Biden. I don't think so.

1214
01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:25.199
Republicans are not responsible. But the
media and the Democrats, for the

1215
01:33:25.239 --> 01:33:30.159
occasional voter, wants to blame Republicans
for the border crisis created by Joe Biden.

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Why because it's good for politics,
just in case he is the nominee,

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01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:36.239
which you and I know is Great
Americans is not going to happen.

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01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:40.840
He can't debate, he can't campaign, he can't do any of that stuff

1219
01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:45.079
because he's mentally infringed upon because of
his age and all the difficulties he's had.

1220
01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:49.640
Plus there's going to be more evidence
coming out later from Comerce Committee about

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01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:54.800
all the moneies millions of dollars taken
by the Bidens over the years. There's

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01:33:54.840 --> 01:33:58.319
going to be more evidence of him
tumbling down steps, and more evidence of

1223
01:33:58.359 --> 01:34:01.239
the fact that when Mike Johnson and
others meet with Joe Biden, he doesn't

1224
01:34:01.239 --> 01:34:04.560
know what he's talking about. He's
referring to a staff constantly, and he

1225
01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:11.159
can't put two sentences together. But
the media and TikTok and the social media

1226
01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:15.720
and Hollywood wants you, as a
Great American to blame the Republicans for Biden's

1227
01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:23.039
policy failures. Jessica Anderson is a
great grassroots leader of Sentinel Action Fund.

1228
01:34:23.640 --> 01:34:28.319
And because the Democrats are feeling the
pressure, even from Democrats about what to

1229
01:34:28.359 --> 01:34:31.319
do on the southern border, and
there's three hundred and seventy page monstrosities out

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01:34:31.319 --> 01:34:35.520
there now, they want to get
in your mind the idea that somehow the

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01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:41.000
damn Republicans are at fault. The
Republicans did it. Joe Biden is simply,

1232
01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:44.399
you know, lunchbucket Joe who wants
to get something done on the southern

1233
01:34:44.399 --> 01:34:47.479
border, and those damn Republicans are
keeping it from transparring. Are you kidding

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01:34:47.479 --> 01:34:51.520
me? No, We're not kidding
me. I let's continue with more Blne

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01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:57.159
becomes available eight sixty six six four
seven seven three three seven. Go cunning

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01:34:57.199 --> 01:35:02.760
in with you every Sunday, Bill
Cunningham, the great American of course,

1237
01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:09.239
Heritage Foundation and Heritage Action for America
as one of the great organizations in the

1238
01:35:09.279 --> 01:35:15.199
world as watchdogs promoting hopefully libertarian and
conservative positions, and of course to the

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01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:19.880
executive vice president is Ryan Walker.
To talk to you about what's happening in

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01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:26.319
Washington with spending. There are two
major arrows coming into the heart of the

1241
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:30.720
American way of life. One is
a legal migration taken to the tunes of

1242
01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:33.520
maybe twenty to thirty million over the
next five or six years, twenty to

1243
01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:38.279
thirty million. And on top of
that, the physical crisis that we're in.

1244
01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:43.159
Even Davos recognize. I watched some
of the elites from Switzerland talk about

1245
01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:45.920
the budget deficit, and one of
the speakers said that we currently owe the

1246
01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:51.520
world about thirty four trillion dollars and
that by twenty thirty, a mere six

1247
01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:59.399
years away, that thirty four will
become forty trillion dollars with interest greater today

1248
01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:02.479
than the Fence Department. And his
rights continue to rise, it's going to

1249
01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:06.319
be even worse. So Ryan Walker, once again, welcome to the Bill

1250
01:36:06.359 --> 01:36:11.239
Cunningham Show, and tell the American
people first of all, to find the

1251
01:36:11.279 --> 01:36:15.159
extent of the problem before we talk
about the solution. Remember, the era

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01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:18.119
of big government is over. From
Bill Clinton, the era of big government

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01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:23.840
is over. Not really explain the
problem to the American people. Yeah,

1254
01:36:23.880 --> 01:36:27.199
thank you for having me on.
You're absolutely right. The government is out

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01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:30.640
of control in its size and scope. We are thirty four trillion dollars in

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01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:35.920
debt. We're adding a trillion dollars
to that number every three months, and

1257
01:36:36.119 --> 01:36:41.399
there is no pathway or vision of
how we bend down that curve instead of

1258
01:36:41.479 --> 01:36:45.119
the spending and Congressional leaders, as
far as we can see, and it's

1259
01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:49.800
from what they've put forward already,
have no interest in changing that trajectory or

1260
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:54.720
cutting spending. One thing that I
found shocking is I saw this graph,

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01:36:54.720 --> 01:36:58.600
and maybe you're in the business you
know more exact numbers. But during the

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01:36:58.640 --> 01:37:04.800
four years of the trumpet imistration,
deficit spending one up eight eight trillion dollars

1263
01:37:04.800 --> 01:37:10.000
in four years. Is that true? It was close to that number.

1264
01:37:10.079 --> 01:37:13.880
Yes, And so this is a
problem that has existed for years. There

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01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:17.640
is a you know, the elected
leaders that we put into seats in Washington

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01:37:18.319 --> 01:37:23.760
have no interest in cutting spending or
showing the American people that there needs to

1267
01:37:23.760 --> 01:37:28.039
be a priority list on things that
we fund. Instead, they would they

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01:37:28.199 --> 01:37:32.239
like to make promises to anyone who
comes and asks. And unfortunately that's led

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01:37:32.239 --> 01:37:35.399
to the position that we're in now. We're going to spend more on interest

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01:37:35.399 --> 01:37:40.159
alone this year than we do on
the entire Department of Defense. That's more

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01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:44.920
than eight hundred and eighty billion dollars. And one might say this is not

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01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:50.560
a democratic problem. Well alone,
it's a Republican slash democratic problem because neither

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01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:55.479
side, when having the power,
is going to change it whatsoever. Well,

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01:37:55.479 --> 01:37:57.840
why do you think that is?
Is it an issue that the average

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01:37:57.880 --> 01:38:02.039
American here's a million of bills,
a trillion and their eyes glaze over don't

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01:38:02.079 --> 01:38:06.760
know what a trillion dollars is.
How much that is? One thousand billion?

1277
01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:12.560
One thousand billion is a trillion dollars? Well, why don't the American

1278
01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:16.279
people fixate on this as a major
problem. I think it's a great question

1279
01:38:16.359 --> 01:38:20.399
and something that we've been asking ourselves
for a very long time. I think

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you're absolutely right that people don't understand
the value of a trillion dollars. It's

1281
01:38:26.079 --> 01:38:32.960
not necessarily something that you or I
will ever experience or see in a way

1282
01:38:32.800 --> 01:38:38.800
that makes logical sense to us.
And then secondly, I think there is

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01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:45.880
a problem with the disconnection. The
federal government consumes a lot and in issues

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01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:49.439
a great deal of debt, but
there is no on the other side of

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01:38:49.439 --> 01:38:54.720
that equation. There is no repercussion
for the American family, the American household.

1286
01:38:55.079 --> 01:39:00.199
They don't have to front the money
to pay that debt immediately or an

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01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:03.680
annualized basis. It just continues to
pile up. And the idea is that

1288
01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:08.119
at some point in the future,
at some point, we'll have to deal

1289
01:39:08.119 --> 01:39:10.920
with it. But that's not today. That's a later problem. I've heard

1290
01:39:10.960 --> 01:39:15.880
clowns and fools say, will simply
repudiate the debt simply say we don't own

1291
01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:18.880
anymore. What would happen if the
US government would say, well, we

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01:39:19.039 --> 01:39:24.319
now owe forty trillion dollars. It's
now the year twenty twenty nine, only

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01:39:24.359 --> 01:39:28.680
five years away. We owe forty
trillion dollars. The interest on that is

1294
01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:32.000
well north of a trillion dollars a
year, and we're simply not going to

1295
01:39:32.039 --> 01:39:36.159
pay it. What happens, Well, I think that we lose the ability

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01:39:36.199 --> 01:39:44.239
to raise debt in the future.
It would undermine the dollar. I think

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the dollar would lose its status as
the reserve currency for the world, which

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01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:55.319
is actually a very big deal,
and we would our economy would would fall

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01:39:55.359 --> 01:40:01.359
apart. I mean, the international
community or the world in general would have

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01:40:01.439 --> 01:40:04.520
no confidence in the United States that
we're able to pay our debts, and

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so that infuses into everything and would
prevent us from continuing down this pathway that

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01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:15.279
we're on, or even continue to
have a functioning economy. So it's a

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01:40:15.359 --> 01:40:19.479
very big deal. Now, Ryan
Walker of Heritage Action for America, We're

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01:40:19.520 --> 01:40:25.119
told that Speaker of the House,
Mike Johnson is going to hold the line

1305
01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:30.239
like Maximus and the Gladiator as he's
attacking the Germanic tribes from behind hold the

1306
01:40:30.279 --> 01:40:34.199
line. But I have little confidence
that's going to happen, because I don't

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01:40:34.239 --> 01:40:39.039
care who the Republican is. We
send them there as conservatives, they become

1308
01:40:39.079 --> 01:40:43.239
wishy washy meatballs, they become liberals. And you make a point in your

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01:40:43.359 --> 01:40:47.479
article that you would hope that if
we defend the borders of Ukraine, Israel,

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01:40:47.800 --> 01:40:51.680
Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, every
place in the world, we would

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01:40:51.680 --> 01:40:56.600
defend our southern border that funds a
lot of this and so, seemingly to

1312
01:40:56.640 --> 01:41:00.279
get a responsible spending package, whatever
the hell that is, I have to

1313
01:41:00.319 --> 01:41:04.439
agree to spend maybe one hundred and
twelve billion dollars on aid packages all over

1314
01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:08.159
the world. Is that a good
idea to hook one to the other,

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01:41:08.239 --> 01:41:13.079
because aren't they unrelated in a sense? Oh? I think they're completely unrelated.

1316
01:41:13.079 --> 01:41:16.720
Now listen, I think that the
priority of elected representatives needs to be

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01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:20.840
safety and security the American people,
and that should be their singular focus.

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01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:26.800
This this other, uh, these
other components. Sixty billion dollars for Ukraine,

1319
01:41:26.840 --> 01:41:32.800
fourteen billion dollars for Taiwan, and
the Sack Pacific. You know these

1320
01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:40.359
are It's a sum of money that's
enormous and Meanwhile, the American people are

1321
01:41:40.359 --> 01:41:45.119
having to deal with the consequences of
the illegal immigration every single day. And

1322
01:41:45.159 --> 01:41:48.600
it's not just cities like New York
and Chicago and some of these major metropolitan

1323
01:41:48.600 --> 01:41:56.039
areas. It's places like small towns
of twelve thousand in Kansas that overnight received

1324
01:41:56.039 --> 01:42:00.920
a thousand immigrants to their community.
This is untenable. The safety and security

1325
01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:03.239
of the American people is at threat. It should be the first priority of

1326
01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:14.079
Congress, not sending money abroad to
more conflicts that are seemingly These conflicts will

1327
01:42:14.079 --> 01:42:19.800
continue. There is no solution or
grand victory here for either side. They're

1328
01:42:19.840 --> 01:42:25.119
grinding to a halt in these regions. And so our perspective is, listen,

1329
01:42:25.239 --> 01:42:30.920
the Congress and this president need to
get serious about securing the border,

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01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:34.520
and that means passing HR two.
You know, Ryan Walker, our government,

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01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:39.840
Democrat and Republican, are fully committed
to the defense of the borders of

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01:42:39.920 --> 01:42:45.600
every country in the world except our
own. And until it's politically unpopular to

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01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:49.600
have a Kamala Harris in charge of
the southern border and put Chuck Schumer and

1334
01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:55.359
Mitch McConnell in charge of the budget, nothing is going to change. Republicans

1335
01:42:55.840 --> 01:43:00.439
mouth the words of fiscal responsibility,
but once they get power, it never

1336
01:43:00.479 --> 01:43:03.119
occurs. It never happens. And
then at the end of the day,

1337
01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:10.640
the debt continues to rise unbridled,
driven a course by Social Security, Medicare,

1338
01:43:10.840 --> 01:43:15.359
medicaid, the military, and interest
on the national debt that is consuming

1339
01:43:15.439 --> 01:43:19.000
most of the federal budget as I
speak. You take social Security, Medicare,

1340
01:43:19.239 --> 01:43:24.119
Medicaid, interest on the national debt, and the military, and that's

1341
01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:27.960
about seventy percent of the federal budget. And so no matter what we do,

1342
01:43:28.960 --> 01:43:34.000
it's almost powerless. And haven't Republicans
been as guilty as Democrats when it

1343
01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:39.319
came to spending money, They just
spend it on different things. Oh,

1344
01:43:39.359 --> 01:43:45.359
absolutely, Republicans are no less guilty
in this situation that we're than Democrats.

1345
01:43:45.399 --> 01:43:48.319
I completely agree with you, and
I also completely agree with you on the

1346
01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:54.319
stats that you just walked through.
Those are accurate numbers that show that Congress

1347
01:43:54.680 --> 01:44:00.520
is confronting a serious problem. Their
annual appropriation bills only deal with about thirty

1348
01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:04.840
five percent of government funding, or
the entirety of what we spend as a

1349
01:44:04.880 --> 01:44:10.720
government. Most of that comes from
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and

1350
01:44:10.760 --> 01:44:15.479
those programs in particular, are within
a ten year budget window of being insolvent.

1351
01:44:16.159 --> 01:44:21.399
So you know, there is not
much political will on Capitol Hill,

1352
01:44:21.479 --> 01:44:27.000
if any, to cut spending.
But what I will say is that these

1353
01:44:27.279 --> 01:44:34.520
members will have to face a scenario
within the next five to seven years of

1354
01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:41.199
having to reform these programs, and
it's vitally important that the American people understand

1355
01:44:41.800 --> 01:44:45.600
that those programs are the drivers of
government spending and there needs to be a

1356
01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:53.720
reduction in their obligations and how much
they dole out because it's untenable. Again,

1357
01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:57.199
it's untenable the path that we are
on. Ryan Walker look at it

1358
01:44:57.199 --> 01:45:00.680
this way that a demographer working for
the US Census Bureau said that on the

1359
01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:05.920
current path that we're on right now, there's about three hundred and thirty million

1360
01:45:05.960 --> 01:45:12.359
Americans, three hundred and thirty million
human beings living in America. We're not

1361
01:45:12.399 --> 01:45:15.279
sure, but three hundred and thirty
million is the number. Three thirty five.

1362
01:45:15.800 --> 01:45:19.239
In the year twenty fifty, which
is about what twenty six years away.

1363
01:45:19.239 --> 01:45:24.600
On the present path, we're going
to have an additional one hundred million

1364
01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:30.880
human beings living in America using government
services, using Section eight housing, using

1365
01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:36.680
food stamps, using Medicare Medicaid,
showing up at ers, kids going to

1366
01:45:38.279 --> 01:45:43.439
schools that are completely overwhelmed. We're
not in the process at all of doubling

1367
01:45:43.720 --> 01:45:47.479
our interstate highway system to handle this. We're not beginning the process of doubling

1368
01:45:47.520 --> 01:45:53.520
our emergency rooms and hospitals. We're
not in the business whatsoever of doubling our

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01:45:53.560 --> 01:46:00.760
police departments. Just the opposite.
We're completely unprepared for the consequences of having

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01:46:00.840 --> 01:46:05.600
a wide open southern border and taking
in four trillion dollars in income taxes every

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01:46:05.680 --> 01:46:12.239
year and spending six trillion on other
projects defending borders thither and fro. Can

1372
01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:15.520
you imagine a world and you're a
relatively young man compared to many, but

1373
01:46:15.640 --> 01:46:18.720
assuming I may not be here in
twenty fifty, In fact, I'm going

1374
01:46:18.760 --> 01:46:23.039
to assure you I will not be
but you will be here in twenty fifty.

1375
01:46:23.359 --> 01:46:28.159
Can you imagine America with an additional
one hundred to one hundred and twenty

1376
01:46:28.199 --> 01:46:32.520
five million human beings living here,
eighty percent being foreign born. What is

1377
01:46:32.560 --> 01:46:39.520
the what does America look like in
twenty fifty? Well, I think that's

1378
01:46:39.680 --> 01:46:43.680
that's exactly what we as an organization, and I think the majority of this

1379
01:46:43.840 --> 01:46:49.439
country believes is that listen, we're
experiencing these illegal immigrants coming across the border.

1380
01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:56.279
These folks have no interest in assimilating
into this great experiment in self governance

1381
01:46:56.279 --> 01:46:59.359
that we have. They have no
interest in being a part of it.

1382
01:46:59.760 --> 01:47:04.560
They are using this as an opportunity. They are opportunists looking to take advantage

1383
01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:13.279
of a system we cannot and will
not be able to accommodate for and allow

1384
01:47:13.359 --> 01:47:18.000
these folks to come in and stay
here without the system fundamentally breaking. And

1385
01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:23.439
that is a key point I think
everyone should should take away from our conversation

1386
01:47:23.640 --> 01:47:29.000
is that at some point this system
will collapse, and I think that we're

1387
01:47:29.199 --> 01:47:32.199
unfortunately, very close to that line. I don't think it's a twenty fifty

1388
01:47:32.279 --> 01:47:36.000
problem. I think it's a twenty
twenty eight, twenty twenty nine, twenty

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01:47:36.079 --> 01:47:41.039
thirty problem that in four or five
years, at the rate we're going of

1390
01:47:41.119 --> 01:47:45.880
some ten to twenty million every year, the cities will collapse. Oakland has

1391
01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:49.720
collapsed, Portland has collapsed, Chicago's
in complete meltdown. It's not as if,

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01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:53.520
Okay, we have to worry about
this in twenty fifty. Hell,

1393
01:47:53.560 --> 01:47:56.960
in twenty twenty four. We have
to worry about it because you can be

1394
01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:00.880
in Detroit, Chicago, Portland,
LA. And the public school system is

1395
01:48:00.920 --> 01:48:04.319
in complete collapse. It is nothing
more than a vending machine for condoms and

1396
01:48:04.399 --> 01:48:10.560
Plan B contraceptive. There is no
education going on in Detroit or Baltimore.

1397
01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:15.159
The great majority of kids in the
eighth grade cannot read and write, and

1398
01:48:15.199 --> 01:48:19.640
their eighth graders and that's the competition
for illegal aliens, unattached mails from all

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01:48:19.720 --> 01:48:23.159
over the world. And it's not
going to get any better. It's going

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01:48:23.199 --> 01:48:27.600
to get worse unless we change the
politics and policy. And if we elect

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01:48:27.640 --> 01:48:32.319
another interchangeable drill bit in this November, a Democrat to keep the policies of

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01:48:32.399 --> 01:48:36.800
Joe Biden going for the next four
to twelve years. If Michelle Obama comes

1403
01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:44.279
out behind the drape in August in
Chicago for the National Democratic Convention. At

1404
01:48:44.279 --> 01:48:48.039
our side is Gavin Newsom, who's
run California completely into the ground, and

1405
01:48:48.119 --> 01:48:53.640
those two take over government in November, and you look another eight to twelve

1406
01:48:53.760 --> 01:48:57.960
years of the Obamas and Gavin Newsom
in charge of the southern border, in

1407
01:48:58.079 --> 01:49:02.000
charge of governmental spending, and yards
of shoveling money into the cities to band

1408
01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:05.720
aid over the problems we can't survive. Well, Ryan Walker, I'm done

1409
01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:10.800
pontificating for a while, but what
is your website, if any, to

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01:49:10.840 --> 01:49:15.479
which I can direct the American people. Absolutely encourage everyone to check out Heritage

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01:49:15.520 --> 01:49:20.359
Action dot com. We're also on
every social media platform you can imagine.

1412
01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:27.000
We produce content and educational materials to
help people become politically active and to voice

1413
01:49:27.039 --> 01:49:30.079
their concerns around things like in open
Southern border. Ryan Walker, thank you

1414
01:49:30.239 --> 01:49:33.000
much, thank you very much for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Good

1415
01:49:33.079 --> 01:49:36.800
luck and God speed. Thank you
very much. Thank you. Thanks continue

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whenever stuff, we simply continue.
Bill Cunningham, the Great American live with

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you every Sunday night. Try Billy
Cunningham the Great Americans. Thank you very

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much for listening this Glorio Sunday night, and California right now is experiencing horrible

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rain. I had on many many
months ago a Republican candidate. I gonna

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try to get him on next Sunday, John Cox. He ran against Gavin

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Newsom for the governorship and of course
lost in California, but he made the

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point of California out to have hundreds
of brand new reservoirs. So when these

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events take place seven inches of rain
tonight and tomorrow in Los Angeles, the

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Grammys are almost washed out tonight,
that there would be sufficient reservoir space to

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have years supply of fresh water.
But that cannot happen in California. Number

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One, they love crises and chaos, which is government, government more control.

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Number two, the reservoirs none of
been new, ones not been built

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in something like thirty seven years,
and too many lawsuits, too many snail

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darter fish, so they can't build
reservoirs that would hold all this fresh water

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that simply enveloped large parts of California
then out to the sea, causing a

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rise in ocean ocean temperatures and also
ocean water and which causes problems in the

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Marianas. But see, California has
the ability to build hundreds of brand new

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reservoirs if Gavin Newsom would issue an
emergency order, but they don't do that.

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So all the water falling from the
heavens right now should be used by

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mankind to benefit mankind, But it
doesn't work that way because the crises in

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California are so great that the only
government can solve them, which takes away

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the power of individuals but gives government
more power. I began about three hours

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ago talking about the failure of large
governments and whether it's economically on the southern

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border, whether it's evs, whether
it's oil depletion, whether it's not building

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reservoirs. We have nothing but crises
everywhere I look. And Ryan Walker,

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my last guest from Heritage, talk
about the financial crisis. Earlier tonight,

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Jerown Powell was on sixty Minutes saying
there may be a cut in interest rates

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later this year, but he also
said that do we have to address the

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debt borrowing that we're having. Imagine
a country that has to take out new

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credit cards every few weeks to pay
interest on the old credit cards. By

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any objective standard, America is bankrupt. We have no money. We're borrowing

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from future generations two trillion dollars now
a year, two trillion a year,

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and a budget deficit accumulated to thirty
four trillion dollars. Obama talked about fundamentally

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transforming America into what from what I
think, America is a great place,

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but we have to start enforcing laws
and we have to quit borrowing money from

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future generations to fund our current needs. If you don't have the money your

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01:52:42.439 --> 01:52:45.039
parents told you you don't have the
money, you can't get it. And

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this Senate bill of three hundred and
seventy pages, released at six forty pm

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to night, spends money to defend
the borders of the Ukraine without significantly guarding

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the borders of this country. In
fact, it puts in place policies that

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would tie Donald Trump hands should he
be elected. We can't have that.

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All it takes is executive order and
a backbone in order to correct much of

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what's happening on the southern border.
And if that would happen, we'd be

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in much better shape. Once again, thank you very much for listening and

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many guests tonight. I especially enjoyed
Leland Vittert and many others in Congressman Warren

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01:53:18.039 --> 01:53:23.319
Davidson who said that the bill in
the House is dead on arrival. Bill

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Cunningham, the Great American, with
you every Sunday. No