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Welcome back, everyone to a new
episode of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and

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David Harsani. If you'd like to
reach the show, please send us an

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email at radio at the Federalist dot
com. Thank you Molly. Today,

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I think we should just dive in, even though I really was trying to

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avoid this. Just dive into the
whole DeSantis Trump primary race seems to be

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what a lot of people are interested
in talking about. I think it's way

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too early, but I cannot stop
the tide of history. It is what

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it is. Yeah, I'm not
super interested in the primary myself, but

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I had a few sort of random
thoughts. I was surprised to get the

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news this week that de Santis had
shaken up his campaign management staff. His

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campaign manager is now in a different
role, and he put it his sort

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of chief of staff in as his
campaign manager. And I don't know if

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that will solve his problems or not, but it actually made me think about

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how weird it is that the Trump
campaign has been surprisingly tight and focused.

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Like everyone's talking about how the other
campaigns are doing a very bad job of

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taking him on, and that's true
in part, in large part, it's

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also true that, particularly considering the
erratic nature of the head guy in the

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campaign. The campaign is like really
focused and on point and doing what they

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should be the Trump campaign. So
just interesting to see that happening. But

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of course there's a lot that you
don't know until people start voting. You

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know, you can talk about this
all sorts of different ways, but it

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really will come down to help people
vote to state the obvious No way,

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Yeah, obviously. I mean that's
why I feel like it's too early.

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There hasn't really theresn't you know,
we don't really know obviously state by state

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primaries we're talking about. It just
seems too early for I get that everyone

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is saying de Santis is failing,
and there's this I hate to say in

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the word, there's this narrative that's
sort of ossified, you know, that

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he's not doing like that, he
is has no personality, and then all

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that stuff. I just I feel
like it's it's his failure, is letting

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that congeal as a talking point about
him more than actually what he's done.

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Does that make any sense? Yes, and no. I've talked with a

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lot of people who are super fans
of Ron Descants they're fans of Ron de

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Santists. They also like Donald Trump. They are surprised by how much they

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have grown to not adore Ron de
Santists because of how he's handled the campaign,

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and when they talk ab out him, it is about him, not

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really about the campaign. It's about
the way he answers questions or even like

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his mannerisms, like there's something something
has soured for people, for a lot

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of people, and let me let
me, let me, let me pose

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this to you. The other day
he said he was asked about who won

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twenty twenty election or whatever, which
is going to be a question he's going

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to be asked basically in every interview, and he said, Donald Trump lost.

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You know, I forget how he
said it. The full context of

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that quote was that he said,
basically, he framed it like you're like

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he was talking about your book right
that that it had been unfair. But

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once it's over, it's over.
And Joe Biden sworn the Bible and he

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is the president. I don't understand
why that is offensive to anyone. And

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I don't really know what you're supposed
to how you're supposed to use questions.

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So before I before I tell you
what I think about his response, which

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I already publicly said I thought he
was responding well to these questions. It's

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not a factional until you say it. On here. I do want to

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talk first and foremost about the question. I am writing a piece right now

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where I express my belief that that
question is never asked in good faith.

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The question that we heard all the
time after the twenty sixteen or the twenty

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twenty election, but I've started to
hear again in recent days is do you

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do you believe that Joe Biden won
twenty twenty election? Yes or little?

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Yes or little? It's so stupid. And the piece I wrote was about,

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how then do you know the nineteen
seventy two men's Olympic basketball game against

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with that against the Russians and they
whether they I forget it was a okay?

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So yeah. It's the only time
a team has refused to accept a

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result of the outcome is the American
men have refused to accept that they lost

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the nineteen seventy two gold medal championship
game in the Olympics, and they were

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playing against the Soviet Union, and
going into that game, the men had

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a sixty three and O record,
Like going back to nineteen thirty six,

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the American men had won not just
seven gold medals at that point, they

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had won sixty three games in a
row. They were monsters, Like America

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invented the game, and so we
were just very good at it. But

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that year the Soviet Union was actually
pretty strong, pretty experienced, and they

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had come in also hot and heavy, and they in fact were leading the

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game right up until the last few
seconds of the game when someone was fouled.

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He scores two shots, so the
US takes the lead, at which

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point I don't even remember all the
details, but basically they replayed the last

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three seconds three times until the Soviets
were able to win. And it is

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just so complicated what happened when the
Soviets claim that they called for a time

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out in between the two free throws, but that the referees didn't see it.

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The referees, by the way,
include the Bulgarian, which you know,

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a lot of people found suspicious,
and so then they put time back

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on the clock, but then they
shouldn't have done that, but then the

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time wasn't put back properly, so
they just kept on like kind of coming

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up with reasons why the Soviets could
get another shot at things, and then

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another the Bulgarian referee actually interfered in
a play in a way that was advantageous

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to the Soviets, and they end
up winning, and the US team appeals

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to the basketball court, and I
think it was a three two decision that

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the court ruled that the Soviets had
won. All three who voted that the

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Soviets had won were from Soviet Bloc
countries, and the US team just refused

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to accept that they lost. And
it has been fifty one years and they

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still refuse to accept it. And
last year they came up with this idea

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that they would donate their silver medals
to the Basketball Hall of Fame, and

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the International Olympic Committee said, yeah, that's fine, but you have to

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accept them first, like we're not
just going to transfer them to someone else.

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You have to accept them and then
you can donate them. And the

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team was like, well, we
will literally die before we accept that this

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was a free and fair game,
so we're not going to do it.

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And the Soviets, for their part, well, the Soviet Union doesn't exist

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anymore, but the Russians do.
And in twenty seventeen, they made a

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movie and it's called something like three
Seconds to Victory, highest grossing Russian film

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of all time, and it's about
how they totally won the game. So

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when I hear people say did Joe
Briden win to twenty twenty election, in

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my mind, I just hear people
say, did the Soviets win the nineteen

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seventy two gold medal game? Like, yeah, they did. At the

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end of the game, they had
more points on the board, they received

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their gold medals they want. But
you'd be an idiot to go up to

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any of these men and say,
do you accept that you lost? Like?

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The whole point is that the game
was not conducted in a free and

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fair fashion. And that's the whole
point of the twenty twenty election. Now,

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whether you think that the hundreds of
changes to the laws and processes that

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governor our elections in the months preceding
the election was okay, whether you think

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it's okay to do that in a
non constitutional manner, as many of them

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were done, whether you think it's
good to flood the zone with tens of

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millions of unsupervised ballots at the same
time that you lower scrutiny for those ballots,

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whether you think it's okay that the
corporate media made up news stories such

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as the false i'marm story in which
Donald Trump's oppos of the secretly harbored hatred

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for American soldiers, a thing that
was not true but that was inserted into

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the debates, or whether you think
it's okay for the media to suppress real

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stories about the Biden family business,
or to collude with tech companies and the

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government to suppress all news of information
that would help Republicans and elevate news and

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information that helps Democrats, Like it's
okay to have a problem with how that

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election was conducted. Tens of millions
of people do. And to say,

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did Joe Biden more electoral College votes
is such a stupid question. It's not

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asking good faith. Everybody knows that
he won the electoral College and that he

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was inaugurated. But we actually wanted
to have like a legitimate, honest,

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mature discussion about the way we conduct
elections. It's the last question you would

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ask. So I had to get
that off my chest before we talk about

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how Rhonda Santas answered. You know, I want to talk about de Santis

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as well, but that reminds me
of something I saw this week of Ron

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Klain, who used to be Joe
you know, it has basically been with

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Joe Biden forever, was on TV
talking on Jensaki Show, two former administration

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officials talking about how the indictments against
Donald Trump and all that. But it

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reminded me that Ron Klain was actually
a lawyer in two thousand who tried to

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get he was one of the leading
voices and trying to get military ballots thrown

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out and not counted in Florida and
having recounts in only certain districts that would

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help Al Gore, and then of
course spread the conspiracy theory about George Bush

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losing that election. He also did
not accept the two thousand and sixteen,

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you know, six sixteen election.
So I never see anyone ask anyone like

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that, Do you accept that George
you know that George Bush won the election.

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Do you accept that Donald Trump won
the election. It's a stupid question

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that would never even be asked of
people on the left who for years have

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not I mean, I'm working on
a book about this right now. They

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do not accept election losses, So
it's a it's a stupid gotcha question,

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But do I know one of our
colleagues, John Davidson, recently wrote a

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piece about this, But I mean, do we really want to relitigate twenty

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twenty constantly? I mean, or
can we just move on from we just

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can we just stay on the on
the Rhonda Santist thing really quickly? Because

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there were two different times when reporters
were playing this, do you accept that

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the nineteen seventy two gold Medal went
to Russia or whatever? Trick? And

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the first time he's asked by a
New York Times reporter, I think in

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Iowa, and he goes through It's
like he read my book. But also

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because I know he actually knows these
issues really well, he goes through all

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the problems with the election, and
he's like, but but do I believe

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that like Venezuelan servers secretly altered votes. No. Now, there is not

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a word about that that I disagree
with, and in fact, I wrote

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a book on it. But what
I hated was the way the New York

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Times wrote it up. They said, Ron de Santis seems to be moving

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away from the conspiracy theory that the
election was stolen that Republican voters cling to

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without evidence. It was like,
no, literally, what he said is

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what Republican voters believe. It also
happens to be what's true. And just

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because The New York Times doesn't do
the work of understanding or talking to a

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single conservative and good faith to understand
what Republican voters think about the twenty twenty

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election, something that was admitted to
in Time magazine by left wing reporter Molly

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Ball. By the way, it's
not just conservatives. You know, there

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were people bragging about what they'd done
with the election. But because The New

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York Times wants to paint everybody as
believing this Venezuelan server story, they falsely

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claimed De Santis was moving away from
something he'd said previously. It's just not

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true. He has always been good
on this issue. He has put his

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money where his mouth is. He
over he has overseen and signed into law

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improvements in the Florida electoral system.
He banned the private takeover of government election

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offices or signed legislation that the Florida
Legislature had passed on that. And it's

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just I just hate the framing and
I hate how stupid it is. By

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the way, when I defended him, I had a bunch of Ronda Santis

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stands yell at me for praising him, and I just have to say again,

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the only thing worse than Ron De
santis fans getting mad at you when

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you critique him is that they have
a pensiant for getting mad at you when

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There is a lot of very online
anger about about this primary that I don't

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know most normal people really care that
much about it yet, And this is

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why, you know, I just
think it's too early for desantist to panic.

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But I would say this, I
like how we answered these questions,

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and when I read the full context
of how we answered them, they're actually

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even better and they are not like
you say. The whole framing is,

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Oh, he's pushing away from this
crazy idea that the election wasn't fair,

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or you know that it's this conspiracy
theory and he's moving towards, you know,

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a more central position, or he's
moving against Donald Trump. I don't

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think that's the case. I mean, not on that answer, and not

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at all, right. I mean
he said that, I do the election

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was fair, right, I do
want to quibble within how he handled I

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think it was okay NBC News.
This is why I was trying to get

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to okay. So in that question, this reporter is trying to get him

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to trash the idea that we have
a problem with elections in the country,

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and he answers with his general answer
that we just talked about, and she's

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like, okay, but I noticed
you didn't give a yes or no to

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my gotcha question? Could you please
right now give me a yes or no

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to my stupid question? And he's
like, yeah, I accept that.

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Joe Biden won, which you should
never respond to a gotcha question with anything

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than a metaphorical punch in the face. So that bothered me. And then

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he goes on to say, and
you know who's really the bad guy in

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this whole story, it's Donald Trump
because he passed or he signed like legislation

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that was all about COVID relief that
enabled tens of millions of mail in ballots

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to flood the country. Now,
it is absolutely true that tens of millions

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of ballots fluttered into the country in
part through that funding. Also because Mark

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Zuckerberg spent four hundred nineteen million dollars
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this operation and enable it to weaponize
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the time until it was way too
late. But also this idea that he's

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so confused about where to aim his
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who understands Republican voters, I don't
know how to say it anymore clearly,

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like that's going to appeal to the
people working on your staff, who are

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a bunch of never Trumpers. It's
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to be like, oh yeah,
the primary victim of this like unbelievable secret

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operation to control the outcome of the
twenty twenty election. We're going to blame

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him for it. And I just
wish he would be as focused as he

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was from like twenty eighteen to twenty
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idiot reporters but also like understood who
his enemies were. How is he going

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to win a primary if he never
points out that Donald Trump did a terrible

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job during you know, on numerous
issues. I just don't understand what he's

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supposed to do. He's going to
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everything was great about Donald Trump,
Then why vote for him at all?

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Well, you know, it is
a kind of a fundamental issue about

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why he's running. That is a
very difficult question to answer. I'm using

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a question to answer what I'm saying. Is it actually there were a lot

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of people who thought that Ronda Santis
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wanted to, and his people really
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to have a good answer for it. And I actually just think the proof

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is in the eating of the pudding
here on how it's going over with Republican

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voters. It's not going over well. He's so highly funded. We're at

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Jeb Bush levels of funding here that
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and it's just resulting in people not
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here's what I'm going to say.
I do not understand Republican voters. I

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do not understand what wins elections.
I'm not going to pretend I do.

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But I do know this that today
Donald Trump, or maybe it was yesterday,

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you know, accused some DA of
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Today Ronda Santis suspended a Soros DA
who wasn't doing her job, you

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know, from continuing to undermine the
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me, that goes centrally to why
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why de Santists is preferable to Donald
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argument than he's making for himself.
That's why maybe I should be a campaign

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manager or something. I think.
I don't think we will ever win a

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campaign if I run it, but
I will say this, he then needs

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to make that case, and every
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know, then there's just this mass. I mean, Donald Trump has spent,

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and it makes complete sense. He's
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he's so far ahead, but he
spent a ton of money just destroying the

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Santists. That's why tons of Trump
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of those attacks are completely unfair,
and I don't understand what the guy's supposed

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to do. Now you're saying you
should you know, why is he running.

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He's running because he's a competent governor, and he's running against a person

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who had a lot of changed a
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But he's not someone i'd call competent
really in most ways. That's that's his

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case. I think there's so much
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First off, I don't actually know
what you're talking about with what Trump

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said about the sort of fake prosecutor
in Atlanta, But the woman is a

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crazy partisan. She was actually holding
fundraisers for people who were running against the

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people she was targeting in Georgia.
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So we have had many things on
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and how people were attempting to do
legal challenges that Georgia one actually probably had

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as much as much merit, if
not more merit. Yeah, I would

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say it had more merit, and
that they actually had found a class of

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voters that were voting illegally, and
nobody disputes that, even the Secretary of

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State's office admits this, and that
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should have been to hold a new
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And had that happened and you needed
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the Georgia Republican people were doing.
And she's trying to put people in prison

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for doing something in a constitutional fashion. She should be condemned. Brian Kemp

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should be doing something akin to what
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But I do find it very annoying
when people are like, well,

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yes, Donald Trump has withstood more
than any man in history in terms of

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attacks from the deep state, and
he's like still standing, but he didn't

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do everything, so I'm gonna trash
him. And it's just it's not it's

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not the arguments, that's not How
can I say this? The distinction people

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need to make if they're running for
president. They need to make a distinction

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about what they'll do and what Donald
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Donald Trump didn't do everything, I
think underplays how he did incredibly little or

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how he should have. We didn't
fulfill most of the promises that he put

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forward. I think that's a fair
political argument, setting aside all the other

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stuff that goes David, this is
so annoying. Every Republican, like top

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guy in my adult life, has
claimed that they're going to handle the border

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situation. I mean John McCain,
Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, George W.

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Bush, like everybody claimed Donald Trump
became president because they didn't. That

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was his central He actually got control
over the border. Am I saying it

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was perfect? No? Was there
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But did he get Mexico to actually
take care of the problem on their side

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to help us on our side.
Yes. There's a reason why Joe Biden's

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first actions in office were to tear
down all of the things that Donald Trump

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had done to secure the border,
even against a hostile Republican Congress. You

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might remember that Republicans refused to help
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They have had no trouble finding like
a hundred billion plus for Ukraine,

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but they couldn't get five billion for
the US southern border. So like he's

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dealing with, you know, a
resistant Can I ask you a question,

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who do you think would be more
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Donald Trump or Ron De Santis?
Only a yes or no answer.

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I'm just kidding. I would say
Trump probably really and here's but I'm not

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sure. So I will tell you
One of the things that hurt me early

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with Ron De Santis is he came
out against the Biden McConnell approach to the

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Ukraine War, and immediately you had
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him he better back down, and
he kind of did. He kind of

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backed down immediately, and it freaked
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remember thinking like, you can come
in there and say, wow, we

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are handling our wars very poorly,
and then the moment you get in,

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very powerful forces within the government kind
of get you in line. And you

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saw that even with how they would
sort of brag about how they'd manipulated Trump

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into extending situations in Syria or extending
the situation in Iraq or extending the situation

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in Afghanistan. The people, the
generals or the other people would kind of

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brag that they'd tricked him into into
continuing things on, and it took him

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a while to figure out, like
I gotta basically like just say we're getting

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out of Afghanistan and just be you
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to say Biden, to his credit, followed through with that. But I

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worry that if you can't stand up
to like the Wall Street Journal at a

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royal page, that you're not going
to stand up to the people who are

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more powerful. I mean, I
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I just want I think about Donald
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run the US government. It bothers
me and it doesn't look like he actually

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when it really mattered in you know, stood up to these people in government

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in DC who run our lives.
And that was a big moment. I'm

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not saying Ron de Santis, by
the way it takes it was perfect in

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that situation either, by the way, but I think that he showed a

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lot more spine and maybe it was
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don't know than Donald Trump ever did
it during There's no question that it's easier

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to do it when you're not running
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state. But it was still very
hard, and Ron de Santis showed amazing

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courage and wisdom, and I mean
he was not just good, he was

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like really good on some of these
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beaches and stuff at first, and
I feel like that's understandable, and

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I wish people would also understand that
for other politicians there, that it would

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have been great if everybody would have
had courage and work together. It was

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a really difficult thing to fight against. The lies, the deception, the

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media propaganda was very very different.
None of that's going to change, and

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none of that's going to change on
any issue moving forward. But I didn't

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really want to make this about I
mean, we could talk about whatever you

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like, but I didn't want to
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the Canada against Canada, and I
wanted to talk about what I think

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Desantist's problem is is that he's running
against basically an incumbent, and there's nothing

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that I don't believe that his answers
are really hurting him. I think he's

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being hurt in that there's an inevitability
question with most people. They just see

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Trump's way ahead. Trump gets all
the attention. All these indictments make them

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even more dogmatic about who they're going
to going to defend, and that there

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was really very little desantists can do
to overcome it, other than to stay

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in the race and then try to, you know, do something in a

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debate or you know, surprise someone
in New Hampshire, Iowa, somewhere right.

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I'll tell you something that's not going
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like to throw it out there.
Well, there are two things we'd talked

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last week. I think about the
potential for Trump to pick to Santis as

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his VP. A very bright listener
was pointing out that which I assume we

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all know, but like, you
can't have you can't have the electoral votes

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from a state county if both the
president and vice president are from that state,

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which is why Dick Cheney had to
pretend to move back to Wyoming because

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both he and Bush claimed to live
in Texas. But here's another thing that

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won't happen. Rhonda Santis has a
very very bright political future potential. I

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don't think it's going to be for
president. The presidential nomination in twenty twenty

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four. He could see that this
was not a good idea. Get out,

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maybe even throw behind the big dog
and live to fight another day.

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He's got a very long future ahead
of him, and I would just if

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does not ask my opinion, and
I do not give it. But there

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are a lot of people making a
lot of money off of him right now

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that do not care if he has
a bright political future. They just want

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to get as much money, pick
it off this campaign course as corpse as

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they can, And he should really
be thinking strongly about his potentially extremely bright

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political future. And he either has
to somehow win this nomination and win the

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presidency, like it's another unfair thing
he has to deal with, Like he

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has to hear Donald Trump basically tell
lies about him, but he kind of

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can't respond as if it were a
normal campaign because of the weird incumbent issues

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and the unfairness of the twenty twenty
election. It's also unfair. I don't

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know that he would not have to
not just win the nomination, but win

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the presidency for him to get out
of this mess. There's no way to

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know if he has a bright,
that brighter future. I mean, I've

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I don't want to, you know, rack my brains right now. But

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many of people that we thought had
incredibly bright futures and politics didn't you fade

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away, New people emerge, situations
change. I don't know that he does.

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Maybe this is his only shot.
Maybe it isn't. And I don't

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understand why his fortunes get any better
if he doesn't stick it out a little

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longer, just to see what's going
to happen with Donald Trump. I don't

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know that Donald Trump. I don't
know what. We don't know what's going

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to happen with Donald Trump. And
I think that DeSantis would be a far

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better I'm not saying he's going to
be better than Trump campaigner or anything like

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that. I realized Trump connects with
people. I don't get it. I

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realize it's a thing, but I
think he was going to it would be

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a very powerful, uh general.
I think against Biden, he would just

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imagining them debating, I just think
DeSantis would destroy him. I mean,

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I don't even I can't even imagine. Their abilities are not on the same

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level. Okay, I'll just say
two things on that. One, nobody

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should freak out or be doing anything
until at least a first debate where we

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get to did you just call him
a corpse? You said he was a

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corpse in the No, I was
saying that his advisors are trying to pick

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over a campaign corpse to get money
into their pockets. So you don't think

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he is a corpse yet in this
race. No, But I'm just pointing

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out that the interests of his well
paid advisors might be at odds with his

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own interests. And he is probably
getting only talk from these people who stand

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and make a lot of money the
more they can keep this campaign going.

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And he needs to understand that his
political future might be at odds with those

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Republican consultants, the class of people
that I do not have the highest regard

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for. So but they should definitely
wait until a debate at least to see

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how it goes. I will just
caution people sometimes you can overstate how well

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someone's going to do and it doesn't
go well. And I watched his debate

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with Charlie Christ and I know everybody
said Ron de Santis did a great job.

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I thought he did perfectly adequate,
and obviously he won in a landslide

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against Charlie Christ did not think he
was the strongest debater I've ever seen.

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Now, I mean, let me
quickly just interject one thing. When I

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say that, I mean in my
eyes, like in my eyes, because

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he's well versed in policy, because
he's going to, you know, sort

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of run rings around Biden when it
comes to that sort of thing. To

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me, he's impressive. Again,
I admit freely, I don't know what

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people like to see in candidates,
or I don't get it, so I

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like that. Yes, another thing
I got in trouble for was saying that

408
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,920
he gave very good, substantive answers
to interviews. Did you get in trouble

409
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,480
for saying that these fans of his
are insane? Anyway? I think when

410
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:07,319
he answers, he knows not just
the conservative principle in play, he knows

411
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:12,880
the specifics about the policy. I
love it. The one thing I would

412
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,000
add for him is a way to
connect it to the average voter, Like

413
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:23,519
most people are not as into policy
or even principle as much as he is,

414
00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:29,200
but they are into things like gas
prices or are they going to take

415
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,880
away my guess of and you know, like a way to take that policy

416
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,799
in principle and then connect it to
the to the voter who feels like this

417
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:38,759
guy gets what I'm going through.
I would do that if I were him.

418
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:44,599
I mean, and writers have pointed
this out, but he does very

419
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:50,319
well when he's uh, I think
up against someone who who's trying to throw

420
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:52,559
got your question, Adam Orga like
Dasha Burns, I think is her name?

421
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,720
You know through that you know,
I don't know that she lied.

422
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:59,240
Sometimes I think these reporters, some
of them at least, are in a

423
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,960
bubble and don't even know. But
when she was talking about how Democrats don't

424
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,319
want abortion until birth, his pushback
in contact when when you see the whole

425
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:12,920
thing is very strong in a way
that I don't see many Republicans in general

426
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:15,039
be able to sort of lay it
out. So I don't know, stuff

427
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:20,279
like that impresses me on a political
level at least, right, Yeah,

428
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,559
speaking of these reporters, I was
talking to a reporter the other day and

429
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:29,480
I was kind of struck by how
stupid they were, And then I was

430
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:34,960
realizing that this is actually a widespread
problem. Does that mean we should cut

431
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,480
that out that I just said that. No, I would not, because

432
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:44,200
there are tons of people are successful
because they just they're credentialed question askers and

433
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,480
stenographers, right like, they're not
thinkers, they're not skeptical anymore, at

434
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,839
least of certain people. And then
when there are smart ones, they used

435
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:59,000
their brightness to be dishonest, right, so for evil, for wrong purposes.

436
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,440
So you know, there there can
be like a Philip Bumps, So

437
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:05,279
no matter what happens, he's like
that proves the opposite, you know,

438
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,559
like he's always just reactively not not
very bright. But there are other people

439
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:14,840
I who you can tell are are
smart and and and you know, are

440
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,320
dishonest in that in that way of
the Washington Post who does not know how

441
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,400
babies are made. It's my favorite
thing. He tried to fact check Marco

442
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:28,800
Rubio for saying that life begins at
conception, and he was like, actually

443
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,800
happens sometime after that. It's I
just I just brought him up because the

444
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,239
other day some one of the Biden
you know, one of you know,

445
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,039
the Biden phone call story whatever,
and he's like, that actually proves that

446
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,639
he wasn't involved, Like, no
matter what you say he's like a five

447
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,159
year old, he'll just tell you
that proves exactly the opposite of what's happening.

448
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,360
But anyway, so I don't know. I it bothers me that that

449
00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:01,320
that people are counting out the santists
so early. But then I think about

450
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,360
it, and I'm like, he
has a lot to overcome, so,

451
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,679
you know, more than most people
do. It's it's a tough situation and

452
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,280
I don't know. I don't know
that he can. So if he does

453
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,039
really well, if he does really
well in this debate at the end of

454
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:21,440
this month or August twenty third,
Fox News to watch it, that could

455
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:24,800
that could change things for him.
Okay, well unfortunately, if he does

456
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:30,079
poorly, that could also. Yeah, there's so many things going on in

457
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:35,079
the world that are more important than
the presidential primary in some to some extent,

458
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,960
I mean, just a quick note. We weren't going to talk about

459
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,000
this. As I mentioned, Ohio
had a a referendum the other day,

460
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,719
and you know that they wanted to
raise the level the threshold to change the

461
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,880
constitution. I think it was to
sixty percent of or something like that.

462
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,519
But that failed, which is not
good news for for pro lifers. I

463
00:35:54,559 --> 00:36:00,320
will say though, that simple majority
referendums are completely on America and they're tyrannical.

464
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,719
They're not meant to happen. Our
governing is not This is not the

465
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,639
way we govern in this country.
I hated them in Colorado when I lived

466
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:10,880
there. I can't believe they exist
in other states. But it is what

467
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,519
it is, and it does not
bode well for I think in twenty twenty

468
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:21,840
four there's going to be some kind
of pro abortion referendum in Ohio. Right,

469
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:25,960
Yeah, No, there's a well
funded effort. It's an incredibly well

470
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,960
funded effort. I don't know what
the actual numbers were in Ohio. I

471
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:32,639
was kind of curious about it.
A funding disparity easily, Yeah, the

472
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:37,440
funding disparity was insane in terms of
how much the left was pushing for this.

473
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:43,519
It's not something that actually makes it
easier to kill babies, like directly

474
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,360
in Ohio, but it could lead
to a passage of something that makes it

475
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,519
easier to kill on warn children.
So pro lifers were concerned about it.

476
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:57,079
But it's there's so much money flowing
into this and so much effort and energy

477
00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:01,639
and testing being done, and it
continues to be a situation where there are

478
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:06,800
really good pro life conservative groups that
are fighting back. They are not funded

479
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,960
at the same level as the left
is, and the Republican Party in general

480
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:17,239
and special interests associated with the Republican
Party are not They're just like completely checked

481
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,800
out, and that's not a great
situation. Republicans are terrible on this issue

482
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,400
because most of them don't even want
to talk about it. I think that

483
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,119
the rob being overturned was the worst
thing that ever happened to them politically.

484
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:32,320
Basically, now they actually have to
make arguments. And that's all true.

485
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,760
However, there is in addition to
all the money you just mentioned, there

486
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,760
are billions and in kind contributions by
the media who completely like this. Dasha

487
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:49,000
Burns interview with DeSantis lie about what
Democrats believe and what Democrats want, which

488
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,480
is abortion till birth with no restrictions, funded by taxpayers, and that's also

489
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:58,039
difficult to overcome. I want it
to turn to something else that is kind

490
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:01,480
of connected to the media again,
and that's this amazing piece of people haven't

491
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:08,719
read that they should. At Tablet
Magazine by David Samuels, which was a

492
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,280
interview with this author, David Garret
wrote a book called Rising Star, which

493
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,880
came out in twenty seventeen, which
is a biography of Barack Obama, but

494
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,880
the first half is not really an
interview. It's sort of him I don't

495
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,440
know, you know, basically the
book engaging with the book taking us back

496
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:34,719
to the rise of Obama, juxtaposing
reality to what was going on, and

497
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,159
before we get into like some of
the specifics, I would say that it

498
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:45,199
just shows you that the entire Obama
mythology and legacy was created, which many

499
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:51,320
politicians do, but completely non unfact
checked, right, Like, no one

500
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:57,000
went back, No one cared about
his real life story, about the lack

501
00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:01,800
of experience, about the lack of
accomplishment, about any of that. They

502
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:07,079
liked the idea of Obama and they
were his biggest cheerleaders, I would say,

503
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,920
the biggest cheerlead, bigger cheerleaders for
him than certainly than even Joe Biden

504
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,480
or anything like that. But anyway, let's talk about this story, which

505
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,480
I think people should read. Yeah, that's who'd say, Actually put aside

506
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:20,559
some time to read it. It's
very long. I think it took me

507
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:24,119
like an hour to read it.
That sound about right. Maybe I don't

508
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:27,559
know that not that long, but
it's long. Okay, I don't remember,

509
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:29,840
but I'm just saying yea. At
some point I was like, wait,

510
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,960
I'm not even halfway through this.
You know, it is full of

511
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:39,920
absolutely fascinating information. And I don't
really know that much about Garrol or Samuel's

512
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,280
so I don't, but it's kind
of my impression that they would be like

513
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:50,119
Democrat aligned people but also very honest
in a way that you're not seeing among

514
00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:54,679
a lot of Democrats right now,
you know, both in terms of like

515
00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:00,320
the fact that Garrol wrote was Mlk's
biographer and wrote a page thanfully honest look

516
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,760
at the man and all his flaws, and still I think, yeah,

517
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,840
yeah, and still like wrote a
very favorable book about MLK, Like it

518
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:14,800
shows he has a cappacity for a
very nuanced and honest thinking, and his

519
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,400
disdain for Obama really trips through.
I'm actually wondering, did you read the

520
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,199
book when it came out? You
know, it's funny. I looked to

521
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,079
see if I did. I try
to read a lot on my phone and

522
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:28,079
this, you know, listen to
books, and I do have it,

523
00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:30,519
and I was into it, but
I didn't read the whole thing, and

524
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:32,119
I think someone else had mentioned this. I think what happened was it was

525
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:36,280
twenty seventeen when it came out.
I think I've had had enough about of

526
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,920
Obama at that point, Like I
didn't really even care that much. I

527
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,639
figured he was the past. Though. In twenty twelve I wrote a boo

528
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:45,599
called Obama's Four Horsemen, which I
got a lot of blowback for being a

529
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:49,639
bit hyper you know, using too
much hyperbole, and that maybe in that

530
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,639
in that book. But the truth
is, I think so many of our

531
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:57,199
problems go back to his presidency.
I think he was a destructive force.

532
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,000
But there's a book this story is
really not about that. It's about that

533
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:06,199
he's basically a fraud. And you
know, I don't know right away,

534
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:08,679
I was reminded that right that at
some point, I don't know what year

535
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,920
it was, all of a sudden, someone unearthed the picture of Barack Obama

536
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:19,719
hanging out with the Minister Farakhon right, and no one in the media could

537
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,719
track down that photo. Ever.
You remember the whole uh, you know,

538
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,320
they would what was that guy's name, Reverend Wright? Right, that

539
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:32,599
whole thing, and this story just
how can I say it reaffirmed in me

540
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:38,559
that yes, Barack Obama was very
open to faracon like ideas, and that

541
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:43,719
yes he wasn't I would say,
an aggressive anti Semite or anything, but

542
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:49,440
he had sort of this left wing, progressive disdain for Jews that you often

543
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,719
see, or basically the Jewish history
or Jews suffering, you know, because

544
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:58,360
it undermined, you know, you
know, the plight of black suffering in

545
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,039
some way or whatever it was.
And that he was not that he's a

546
00:42:01,039 --> 00:42:05,840
fraud, a complete fraud. His
whole life story is basically fraudulent. And

547
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,360
that book he wrote, I forgot
to do what it is called again Father

548
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:13,239
Jeams of My Father is just a
piece of fiction, right, is that

549
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,719
what? That's the argument that garrow
Places puts forth, and I think it's

550
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,599
a pretty compelling argument. I did
want to just say him about the book

551
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:22,239
that came out in twenty seventeen.
I did not read it. I didn't

552
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,760
even really remember it coming out,
except I was talking with this other friend

553
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,119
who's a Republican consultant, and he
was screaming that he was very upset that

554
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:36,079
people were only now discovering it because
when he read it when it came out,

555
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:38,800
he couldn't believe how explosive it was, and nobody wanted to talk about

556
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,679
it at all. And I mean, when we're staying explosive, it's explosive.

557
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:49,480
Like David Garrow tracks down the main
girlfriend of Obama, who had never

558
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:53,400
been talked to by a single reporter, and he gets like a very substantiated

559
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,599
story about how the actual nature of
their breakup was different than the way he

560
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:02,000
portrayed it. He portrayed it that
she just wasn't like down enough with that

561
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:06,599
she was a white woman, wasn't
down enough with the black national experience or

562
00:43:06,639 --> 00:43:09,920
something. And she explains that it
was really because he was not willing to

563
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:15,800
condemn anti Semites within his black identitarian
movements that he was associating with. It

564
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,639
wasn't even that she was saying that
he was anti Semitic. She just she's

565
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:28,880
her grandparents had helped Jews in where
was it, Where were they I don't

566
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,880
know, but there they were,
like actually honored at yad Vishem for what

567
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,599
they did to help Jews during the
Holocaust, And it's very near and dear

568
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:39,559
to her heart. And he just
wasn't willing to condemn anti Semites. And

569
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:45,079
so it was a problem that led
to many fights and eventually break up according

570
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:46,760
to her, But it's kind of
a story that rings true, as you

571
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:52,719
might say, because she's not she's
never talked to the media. She doesn't

572
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,440
seem scorned. By contrast, he
asked her to marry him twice and she

573
00:43:55,519 --> 00:44:00,840
said no. You know, it
just interesting. And then also, of

574
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:05,480
course there's the there's the somewhat explosive
issue there about letters he wrote to his

575
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:10,599
girlfriends involving same sex fantasies that he
had, Like I'm not even saying that's

576
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:15,400
like meaningful or anything, but it's
the kind of thing that I just can't

577
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,960
help but think that if Donald Trump
had letters like that out there, that

578
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:22,320
we'd be talking about it about fourteen
times a day, you know. And

579
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:24,519
yeah, and set that aside,
forget Donald Trump, which is like gets

580
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:30,440
everyone you know nutso, and just
say Mitt Romney. Imagine if Mitt Romney

581
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,880
had written letters like that the most
staid republic impossible, and you know,

582
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,679
it would have been a huge deal. But yeah, it is interesting because

583
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,440
another part of this is like his
you know, fantastic, this fantastical story

584
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:51,400
he gives about, you know,
growing up with all these like revolution at

585
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,119
people talking in dorm rooms about this
revolutionary idea and that one. I meanwhile,

586
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:58,400
he was just friends with rich white
dudes. I mean that those were

587
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,679
his best friends. That's how he
grew up. He was just such a

588
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:06,920
complete fraud. And basically, I
think others have made this argument, and

589
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,320
I am much more open to it
lately, is that basically this is his

590
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:14,000
third administer. You know, this
is his third term right now that we're

591
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:17,960
going through. The whole administration is
packed with his people. The ideas that

592
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,440
they push are just an evolution from
what he could get away with. Everyone

593
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:25,000
used to say, pretend he was
a moderate, but he got away with

594
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:29,280
whatever he could. That's what left
this do They go forward as far as

595
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:34,599
they can and then they build on
that. So anyway, I don't know,

596
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:36,159
well, I don't know. This
was another thing that I thought was

597
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,519
really interesting in the tablet piece that
I very much hope that people read.

598
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,559
It's truly something you need to read
and just engage with the ideas in there.

599
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,320
And one of the things that is
kind of emphasized is that Barack Obama

600
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,960
broke all precedent by moving out of
the White House and just a few blocks

601
00:45:55,039 --> 00:46:00,239
down the road. So instead of
going back to Hawaii or back to Chicago,

602
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:04,840
and you know, to be fair, because he made so much money

603
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:10,039
off of his time as regime head. He has homes all over the world

604
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:17,000
or country, and you know,
takes yacht vacations with celebrities, and he's

605
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:21,760
you know, he's gone a lot
to Martha's vineyard, Hawaii, etc.

606
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:28,960
But he has a home in Calorama. He never left town. He's got

607
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,280
all of his people in this current
administration. So not only was he kind

608
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,880
of helping run the resistance, which
is norm breaking, as we might say,

609
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,079
and destructive to the republic, he
also then now is very key in

610
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,519
the third term of the Obama presidency. He'd kind of said before that he

611
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:50,760
would like to have a third term
along these lines where you install a puppet

612
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,000
and you do everything, but you
don't have to go out in front of

613
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:58,079
the cameras. And a person with
severe mental decline is currently sitting in that

614
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,119
who happened to be his vice president
is sitting in that top chair, and

615
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:07,840
nobody in the media, because they're
corrupt propagandists, is even looking into it,

616
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,679
much less reporting it accurately. On
I mean, he wrote this book.

617
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:15,960
He talks about this woman and not
a single reporter ever found her or

618
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,960
spoke to her, though she was
not in hiding at all and willing to

619
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:25,880
speak to anyone. That isn't make
amazing. Compare that to the things that

620
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,440
we have that we've tracked down,
or reporters have trackeddown related to Donald Trump.

621
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:34,800
Every remember the story, has a
book of Hitler quotes next to his

622
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,599
bedside. This, I mean,
just a million orders were sent to Prague

623
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:43,360
to figure out how Trump's lawyer secretly
had a meeting with Russians, none of

624
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,719
which happened, was all completely invented, and they put reporters over there for

625
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:52,360
like months at a time to dig
into this. I hope that this leads

626
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,360
to a reevaluation by some honest people
who are out there who aren't don't a

627
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,360
partisan riddled brains about his president see
and the person that he was, which

628
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,159
is you know, hopefully diminishes his
standing, I think, and I very

629
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:09,400
much appreciate one thing Donald Trump did
a few things he did, but mostly

630
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:15,400
I appreciate that he completely obliterated the
Obama policy legacy, because most of the

631
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,639
Obama policy legacy was done through executive
orders, like he was some kind of

632
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,960
king with the media cheering on and
Donald Trump destroyed it, which I think

633
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:27,000
is one of the we should talk
about this as well. I think one

634
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:31,480
of the main reasons that people hated
Trump so much right off the bat was

635
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:37,639
that he was basically the anti Obama. He hated Obama, he undermined Obama's

636
00:48:37,639 --> 00:48:44,280
policies, and he also personally went
after Obama with the whole citizenship thing year

637
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,159
after year. And I think that
because of their love of Obama, that

638
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,679
was one of you that drove them
to hate Trump even more than they would

639
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:54,280
have normally. Yeah, the election
of Donald Trump is absolutely the chief legacy

640
00:48:54,639 --> 00:49:00,480
of Brackama. I love that,
all right. I just we felt like

641
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:04,159
people should read that. It's it's
kind of an amazing story. Tablet does

642
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:07,199
good work in general, but that
was just it really was mind blowing to

643
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,199
read. And I'm actually going to
go back, I think, and try

644
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:13,079
to read if I have time.
Rising Star, Yeah, are you ready

645
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:17,400
to talk about culture? Was there
anything else you wanted to Absolutely so,

646
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,360
if I may start. I saw
we spoke about this last week. I

647
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,679
saw Mission Impossible six or whatever it
was, And during the week I had

648
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:31,559
a completely complete reevaluation of my initial
positive review of that movie, I thought

649
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:35,440
about it a bit and I realized
that a ninth grader could have wrote that

650
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,119
movie right. It is incredibly written. I could not have wrote that movie,

651
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,119
could have written the script to that
movie, and that it was just

652
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:52,079
nonsense and garbage, like it's all
just about the experience of all the stunts

653
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:53,840
and all that stuff. So I
was like, I'm going to go back

654
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,840
and watch more movies from the seventies
when people have to write scripts that make

655
00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:02,000
sense and die blog that could actually
maybe happen, that was more naturalistic,

656
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,800
that was more interesting, And that's
what I've been doing. So this is

657
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,800
my thing is I'm going to go
back and watch movies from the seventies,

658
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:14,199
my favorite era of moviemaking. So
here's what I rewatched. Friends of Eddie

659
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,760
Coyle. Have you ever heard of
that movie, Robert Mitchell. I feel

660
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,360
like I've heard of it, but
I don't think i've seen it. Yeah,

661
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:22,320
it's it was interesting because rewatching it, I realized that movies like The

662
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,440
Town by Ben affleck ohe a lot
to it. It's kind of a Boston

663
00:50:27,679 --> 00:50:31,840
gangster film, but it's very little
real violence in it. Love it.

664
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,039
I've seen it before. I watched
Day of the Jackal. Have you ever

665
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:38,559
heard of that one? I think
I've seen that when which hold on?

666
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,280
Or maybe I've read it? Oh
yeah, I was a Frederick ForSight book,

667
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,679
I believe. Yeah, yeah,
So I watched that. I watched

668
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,960
which just an excellent movie. Listen. It doesn't have the sophistication or the

669
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,760
stunts or things you know of you
know in filmmaking that we see today,

670
00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:00,880
but still excellent. I watched The
Gambler with James Kahn, so movie,

671
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,880
don't watch the remake with Mark Walbert. Unfortunately that's not very good. Then

672
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,880
I watched a movie that was from
the sixties called Bullet with Steve McQueen,

673
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,000
which was which is good. And
then I find the final one I want

674
00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:14,480
to mention is I watched rewatched.
I've seen it so many times. So

675
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:19,280
I rewatched the original Dirty Harry movie
and it hit me that we're going through

676
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,400
a lot of the things that people
went through in the seventies, rising crime.

677
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:28,599
People are nervous and that bread this
sort of vigilante movie like Death Wish

678
00:51:28,679 --> 00:51:34,239
and Dirty Harry basically is as well, where people I think enjoyed watching someone

679
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,199
take control in a way that they
couldn't, you know, or fight back

680
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:42,719
against the tide of violence in a
way they couldn't. And I wonder if

681
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,639
that's coming for us as well at
some point. I don't know if Hollywood

682
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:49,199
is it would be as open to
making a dirty Harry or death wish.

683
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,159
I doubt it, but I or
you know, I know they remade it

684
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,239
or whatever. But I wonder if
that's coming for us. Because the seventies,

685
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,559
the grittiness of those movies, even
Taxi Driver things like that, I

686
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:02,039
think we're really reflective of how people
there's frustration people felt about society, and

687
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:08,199
I wonder why that hasn't happened for
us. I just I know you just

688
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:15,760
said that about The Gambler and the
remake, but my friend's husband made that

689
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:23,679
movie, sorry, and I enjoyed
it. Okay, I didn't want to

690
00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:29,239
install your friend. Let's put it
this way. I think the original is

691
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,880
probably better. I think it's a
class, you know, a classic movie

692
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:37,159
of the seventies, and maybe I
you know. So I just want to

693
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:40,159
say I actually wrote down each and
every one of those recommendations, because while

694
00:52:40,199 --> 00:52:44,760
you are not my cup of tea
for most things, what you like,

695
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,360
is not my cup of tea.
You seem to you seem to work with

696
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:53,719
me on the seventies movies, so
I will try those out. Yeah.

697
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:59,199
Yeah, someone gave me permission to
call him Mark Hemingway. Someone on Twitter

698
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,880
said I'm allowed to call him Mark
Hemingway. My husband, Mark also loves

699
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:07,199
the seventies movies. So yeah,
and I'm going to continue watching and that

700
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,719
will report back to you. I
mean, honestly, I think i'm a

701
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:15,199
little I like all of them,
and I feel like that's weird, like

702
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,880
probably shouldn't. But yeah, okay, So the two that I want to

703
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,320
talk about are actually Mark Hemingway is
here right now. What did we watch

704
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:28,760
this weekend? Okay, I know
one of them, which was it was

705
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,320
called Daddy's Home And this is not
highbrow. It was was that Will Farrell

706
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,639
and Mark Walberg or something like,
Yes, I enjoyed it. It's really

707
00:53:38,639 --> 00:53:42,639
stupid, but I really enjoyed.
Good news for you. There's a Daddy's

708
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:45,039
Home too, I believe, And
is that one good? I don't know.

709
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:49,000
I didn't. Okay. The second
one I wanted to talk about was

710
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:52,519
this movie that I don't think I
mentioned weeks ago, but I saw it

711
00:53:52,559 --> 00:54:00,440
weeks ago on the plane from Athens
home and it's called Living Living. It's

712
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,360
a British film. Bill Ny Is
that his name? Bill? I always

713
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:10,840
forget people's names. It is really
good. It's about this like British bureaucrat.

714
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:17,400
H It's about a British bureaucrat and
kind of what he does in preparations.

715
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,480
Like a movie. It sounds like
something I would recommend to you.

716
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:27,519
Yeah. It's based on a Japanese
film by Kurasawa and then the screenplay was

717
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:34,159
by Isha Guru and the Kurasawa film
was actually based on the death of Ivan

718
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,559
Iliach. It's good. I really
liked it and it was really well done.

719
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:42,760
And yeah, Bill bill Ni is
that his name? Bill Ny?

720
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,679
I think, yeah, he's funny. He's yeah, oh wow, Yeah

721
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:50,000
it's on my list. Okay,
great, guess what? Maybe your stuff

722
00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:52,639
is my cup of tea usually either, but I will I will give this

723
00:54:52,719 --> 00:55:00,239
a chance. It sounds sounds intriguing, all right, anything else. I

724
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,639
made a record cabinet for all of
my records. Wow, and you have

725
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:07,599
a many fashioned a record cabinet.
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you a picture

726
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:10,440
of it because I'm very proud of
it, and they're all up against one

727
00:55:10,519 --> 00:55:15,440
wall. So my friend calls it
the wall of sound. And now it's

728
00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:17,880
very easy to find everything. I've
got classical and then jazz, and then

729
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:23,039
everything's a to Z and I have
compilations and soundtracks and comedy and Christmas.

730
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:28,679
So those are like the categories.
So you do it alphabetically, so by

731
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:32,679
artist, so you'll have a rock
unless it's unless it's one of the other

732
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,400
things I mentioned. Yeah, it's
interesting. Mine is just thrown in as

733
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,760
I buy them. I really should
categorize them. I think you need to

734
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,719
categorize them by subgenre. But I'm
not going to get into that right now.

735
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:50,159
Yeah. I proposed that to Mark
and he didn't think that was a

736
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:55,039
good idea. How many records do
you think you have? Well, I

737
00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:59,000
can look it up right now.
I mean, I think people would be

738
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:05,840
interested in this. Yeah, I'm
going to guess thousand, two hundred Is

739
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,400
that too much? Is that too
much? So this is overstating it because

740
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,960
I got rid of many. I
have twenty eight hundred and fifty seven in

741
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:22,039
my discogs, but I think I
got rid of about a thousand, but

742
00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:30,719
I didn't take them out. Okay, all right, Well, well,

743
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,280
this got really bortant at the end. I'm sorry. Yeah. I always

744
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,480
tell my I'll leave you with this. But I always tell my kids that

745
00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:40,960
if I happen to die, they
should not just get rid of my records,

746
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,599
that they were important to me,
and that they might not like them,

747
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:46,079
but they may be worth money and
they should sell them so someone else

748
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:50,280
can enjoy them. Actually, on
that note, a big part of our

749
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,199
collection came from a neighbor just right
around you know, the Bend. We

750
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:58,360
went to their yard sale. They
had all these records out on tables and

751
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,440
Mark reaches in and randomly pulls one
out and it's Brian Eno and he's like,

752
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:06,159
well, we're gonna be looking through
these. And the lady was like,

753
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,760
you can have all thousand for a
hundred dollars, and Mark said sold,

754
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:15,199
and we got this amazing collection.
And I was just telling him that

755
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,119
I want to go back and think
the lady and like explained to her how

756
00:57:17,199 --> 00:57:22,199
valuable the collection was, and he
said that she had told him at the

757
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:25,960
time that it was her uncle who
had died. It has all this nineteen

758
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:30,519
seventies prog rock, which it has
way more than I need. And so

759
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:35,159
that's part of what I've been getting
rid of. But like things I didn't

760
00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:38,880
even know about that I really have
enjoyed listening to, and it makes me

761
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:45,159
a little sad, like I've imagined
this person and how nobody appreciated what he'd

762
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:50,079
put together. And it's a really
fine collection with some really valuable things,

763
00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:54,159
like some rare fines. And similarly, I think it's okay to tell this,

764
00:57:54,239 --> 00:58:01,039
but rich Lowry's dad collected records and
had an amazing collection of classical music

765
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:07,960
and also a lot of easy listening
and big band, and he didn't even

766
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,360
know what to do with it.
So he let Mark and me take it,

767
00:58:09,519 --> 00:58:14,280
and we took it all and I
cataloged it all and went through it,

768
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:19,039
and his dad used to mark on
the record sleeve the date that he

769
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:22,840
would play a different piece, like
he would play that record, and it's

770
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,920
like the date the dates he would
play the record, and you know,

771
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,480
you can kind of see it in
different seasons of his life that he was

772
00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:32,039
listening to it. And I don't
know why he did that, but I

773
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:36,519
met him, but I didn't know
him hardly at all, the dad,

774
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:40,599
But it's like you get a feel
for this person and what they enjoyed listening

775
00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:47,159
to it different seasons of their life. And finally, I'll just note that

776
00:58:47,239 --> 00:58:52,559
we also have Anton and Scalia's record
collection because none of his nine kids cared

777
00:58:52,599 --> 00:58:54,840
for it. And that's also just
like a joy to look through and be

778
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,119
like, this dude really liked Gilbert
and Sullivan operas, you know, or

779
00:58:59,239 --> 00:59:05,360
like other operas. Reminds me of
the story where Sulio asked Judge Thomas to

780
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,039
co Justice Thomas to come with him
to classical music. He said, you

781
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:09,679
love classical music, don't you,
And Thomas said, of course I do,

782
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:15,960
but I hate people who love classical
music. It's like that story.

783
00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:21,840
I'm jealous when I hear those stories. It's ridiculous how easily you come into

784
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,880
these massive, amazing collections of music
where I have to pay overpay on like

785
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,360
eBay to get a single record.
I want so but every time we try

786
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,400
to give you albums, you're like, I'm not interested. That is not

787
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,159
true. You've given me albums.
I've given you albums. In fact,

788
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:39,599
I have two albums that I because
I'm an idiot, I double I bought

789
00:59:39,639 --> 00:59:43,679
and then bought again for probably a
lot of money. But they are kind

790
00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:45,800
of like weird records, And I'm
like, I should give this to Molly

791
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,400
and Mark, but I don't know
that you'd enjoy them, but I would

792
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,400
think I'm going to give them to
you anyway, and maybe you will.

793
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:53,760
Okay, great for everyone else.
Please be lovers of freedom and anxious for

794
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,239
the Fray. Talk to you next
week.