1 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,559 We're back with another edition at the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Dashinski, 2 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,239 culture editor here at the Federalist. As always, you can email the show 3 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,920 at radio at the Federalist dot com, follow us on exit fdr LST, 4 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,519 make sure subscribe wherever you download your podcasts, and of course to the premium 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,240 version of the website as well. I'm joined today by Christopher Bedford, who 6 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:42,520 has some thoughts on the Biden campaigns at recent foundering. Did you catch I 7 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,200 actually didn't ask you this, Chris. Did you catch Karine Jean Pierre's interview 8 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,320 with the North Carolina AM radio host and the American Hero. Did you see 9 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,840 that? Yeah? He asked the two most obvious questions of a Biden campaign 10 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,759 spokesman. He's like, I got to get it out of the way. 11 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,600 I mean a lot of people have been asking. They said, I have 12 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,599 to ask you this. Does Biden have dementia? And what's going on with 13 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,159 the prices of groceries? That's it, That's all I did. And she 14 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,439 hung up the phone and she called them insulting an offensive or the comments insulting 15 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,640 and offensive, and those are like the if Biden needs to answer any two 16 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:23,159 questions to convince voters to pick him again. Voters that aren't you just motivated 17 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,920 by casting about against Trump. They just really think Trump is dangerous. They 18 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,680 don't want Donald Trump to be president again. All everyone else what is weighing 19 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,439 on their minds is is this dude? Okay? And why are my bills 20 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:41,000 so high? So cringe. Pieri we all know is like a pretty important 21 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:47,760 historic figure. She is the dumbest press secretary. That's I don't know that 22 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:53,319 in White House. I don't know who's dumber. Who's dumber in the history 23 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:59,879 of all press secretaries? Yeah, head of white Wallace. No, you 24 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,879 she's crazy, but she's not stupid. Yeah that might be true. She's 25 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,199 pretty bad that she's egregious. She's a moonbad to see her this week. 26 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:14,199 It's just really embarrassing. Sacred away her sacred airways and the sacristy, and 27 00:02:14,159 --> 00:02:16,280 it's like, okay, you're a former Republican, but I didn't know you're 28 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:23,240 that like formally Christian. Really sad, But that's just that's a crazy person. 29 00:02:24,439 --> 00:02:28,680 Creamchy appears is bad. Okay. So she gets asked on the air 30 00:02:29,479 --> 00:02:34,719 about grocery bills and dementia, two things that every aspect of white House. 31 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:38,919 Pauline shows you are top of the minds of the American voters. Like you'd 32 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,000 think that you have an answer. So let me just say, Okay, 33 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,000 I'm not the Biden pressed secretary, but my answer would be no, No, 34 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,879 the President doesn't have dementia. Listen. I deal with him. I 35 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:53,240 work with him every day. He is sharp, he is moving. Of 36 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:58,120 course, he's not a young man. He moves in a little bit of 37 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,680 a grandfatherly way, but his mind is as sharp as it has ever been. 38 00:03:00,759 --> 00:03:07,599 He is engaged, and he's engaged in issues in American people. Fully 39 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:10,960 assumed the role, and you did it with such gusto you were. You 40 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,879 were excited to answer that question. As Jean Pierre, it's not hard, 41 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:20,360 Christopher, Jean Pierre grocery bills like, hey, listen, we inherited from 42 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,960 our predecessor an economic disaster. COVID had been mismanaged, supply chains were spirally, 43 00:03:27,039 --> 00:03:31,120 and we have the white of white House has worked to decrease inflation, 44 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:36,039 to bring it back under control for the American consumer. Next question, Oh, 45 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,759 my gosh, these aren't hard questions. You should probably stop doing journalism 46 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,400 and just go into calms. Because that was well executed and you put very 47 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,479 little thought into it too, thank you. It's really it's easy to lie, 48 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,639 Yeah, it is, though it is well. Actually that reminds me 49 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,159 of I don't know here. So Alex Jones was right on Tucker's I don't 50 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:57,439 know if you watched him on talking the other day. No, what did 51 00:03:57,439 --> 00:04:01,439 he say? He said that truth telling and lying are both things like going 52 00:04:01,479 --> 00:04:05,759 to the gym, they are habits there. They are habit for me. 53 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,840 If you're someone who doesn't lie, yeah, and it just becomes a habit 54 00:04:10,879 --> 00:04:14,280 where it becomes strange. But if you're someone who does lie and you get 55 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,720 comfortable lying, you end up lying about small stuff. You end up lying 56 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:19,079 Your watch's like why you're light. It's like I got the light of the 57 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:21,800 office. It's a small little thing. So you didn't like get a beer 58 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,639 with your friend or something. And it builds and it builds and it builds. 59 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:30,319 So it's habitual. So going in going into the White House comms dangerous 60 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:33,199 path. Yes, I was going to say it because your example sounded oddly 61 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,120 personal. I was hot like a hell about the office, but I was 62 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:41,240 actually having some beers. I never lie, sir, and you can't. 63 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,399 You can't because she's an investigative reporter better than most two guesses too, so 64 00:04:46,439 --> 00:04:49,079 I don't have to like be so obviously sitting there and I'm like, I'll 65 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,439 be all man a half an hour. So I thought you were about five 66 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:55,480 minutes away, and I said, I'll be silence. You're going to get 67 00:04:55,519 --> 00:04:59,199 my tie. I am going to get to my I feel like I've earned 68 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,120 my tie. She's like, already, I already filed a for you walk 69 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:06,000 out the door like whistling with my bag. I'm sure look at me, 70 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:11,639 and surely you're going to the brewery to work. We're I'm good to the 71 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,399 Port City. I've worked from Fort City. Sometimes it's great. Well, 72 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,079 the was Alection's was he talking to tuck her about the like Joe Biden in 73 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:24,240 general? Because Biden is the best example of somebody who's habitually a fabulous and 74 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,399 fabulous is a kind word. But it is true that like he does tell 75 00:05:27,439 --> 00:05:30,240 a lot of small lies that are probably best described as fabulism. And the 76 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:35,839 Freebeacon caught him in a hell of a lie this week about his origin story. 77 00:05:36,199 --> 00:05:40,480 Did you see this story? Yeah, I read it. Joe Simonson 78 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:46,759 Andrew Kerr, great reporters. They they went to the National Archives and basically 79 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,759 proved that this story Biden had told a lot and told under oath to Special 80 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:57,519 Counsel Robert Herr about getting involved in politics because when he was a lawyer, 81 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,399 he had to defend some company after a while lost his penis and it's like 82 00:06:01,439 --> 00:06:04,959 an incredible story that sounds face. It was a very bad and very personal 83 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:12,360 injury to a welder's manliness, and he supposedly offended the company and he's very 84 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:15,560 good young lawyer, so he won. But he looked over at that poor 85 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,600 young man and said, I'm in the wrong line of business because this man 86 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:24,279 deserves money for his penis being well. It turns out he did because he 87 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:28,600 was really really badly injured by a workplace for sake. But Biden wasn't on 88 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:31,639 the cases before. He was there as student, and they lost the case 89 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,439 and had an historically high payout at the time to the welder. Yeah, 90 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:42,560 and he seems to be misremembering and misrepresenting probably a combination of both the details 91 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,759 of what actually happened in that story. But it's yeah, I think that's 92 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,439 true, and it reminds me actually Chris of in a weird way, roundabout 93 00:06:49,439 --> 00:06:53,279 way. And I know this is a tangent. We'll get back to the 94 00:06:53,519 --> 00:06:56,959 regularly scheduled programming in a second, but it reminds me of something Ron McDaniels 95 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,360 said in her first and last interview as a NBC News con If MBC wants 96 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,800 to hire me for six hundred grand two year contract, shoot made a call, 97 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,279 show me a text email. I'll keep my pager' on. So actually, 98 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:12,560 and I will only last one interview, I said, so I said 99 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,920 this on Megan kellysh this, but I actually think that's a better idea than 100 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,160 hiring Ronal McDaniel. Like you should go, like you should find somebody who 101 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:23,759 is an actual conservative instead of Ronald McDaniel, who said, I mean, 102 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,639 I think she's like relatively conservative, but like she's not. She's a political 103 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,680 operative. And in that conversation with Kristin Walker, Kristin Walker asked her, 104 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,680 you know, why shouldn't condemn something Trump said about the election before leaving, 105 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:42,319 and Ron McDaniel's answer was exactly what people would expect, which was, you 106 00:07:42,399 --> 00:07:45,120 know, I was taking one. When you work for the party, you 107 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,279 have to take one for the team and now I can be more myself, 108 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:53,160 meaning ron McDaniel was playing a fake version of Ronal McDaniel as the chair of 109 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,240 the RNC while complaining about media coverage and blah blah blah. She was inauthentic 110 00:07:58,399 --> 00:08:00,959 as the r and C chair. And it is true that you have to, 111 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,839 you know, defend your principle when you're in communications like Karine Jean Pierre 112 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:07,519 had to pretend to be insulted by the notion that Joe Biden doesn't have dementia, 113 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,680 which she does see I'm sure up close and personal every single day, 114 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,040 along with the White House Press Corps, who never asks her those questions, 115 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,600 which is why she was so surprised. It's just a miserable job. But 116 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:22,680 Roni McDaniel just you know, answering that question in her audition for this three 117 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,920 hundred thousand dollars a year gig, being like, I can be more myself 118 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:31,120 now. That's exactly why NBC News should not want Ronald McDaniel and should want 119 00:08:31,679 --> 00:08:39,039 Christopher Romney Bedford. But you ditched that because you got upset about Romney. 120 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:46,000 You are actually, yeah, the long line of Utah Mormons, Mexican Mormons. 121 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,159 He was, he was actually governor of my state. Oh right, 122 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,000 that's right. Yeah, he built it. They've built a big he loves 123 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,080 in my grandfather's town, build a big Mormon temple. It's just but seriously, 124 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:01,399 that's it. Romney is the kind of person they want on NBC. 125 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,240 They want this new version of Rona McDaniel. They don't want somebody who is 126 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:13,639 actually going to vociferously defend a conservative cultural positions and conservative critiques of the establishment. 127 00:09:13,639 --> 00:09:18,039 And you know, hey, like ron McDaniel, totally normal person to 128 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,240 hire for that job, especially for MSNBC, which initially really wanted her, 129 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,240 because they want, as Joy Reid said this week, more Adam Kinsinger's and 130 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,240 more Liz Cheney's. That's what they want. And you know, fine, 131 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:35,639 that's there. If their business now is just to cater to that niche and 132 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:41,200 if they can be honest about with his campaign, you see that. I 133 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:46,639 thought it was brilliant. So this is the I don't want to compare this 134 00:09:46,039 --> 00:09:48,720 to I was going to make a comparison to another big campaign, but I 135 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,440 actually don't know if it's fair either way. People are realizing what they can 136 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,639 use packs for when they decide to leave office, and that is like basically 137 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,480 taking money that you raised and use it for transferring it to another girl. 138 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:05,080 There are large swats of the country where it's a lot easier to get around 139 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:09,879 if you have a little two seeded airplane, healthy city airplane. Hell yeah. 140 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:13,639 But so he needed that. He needed the back money to buy him 141 00:10:13,639 --> 00:10:18,559 and his wife a little airplane present so you can get around the same more 142 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:22,799 easily. You needed. Stunning mediocrity that guy is. But that was impressive. 143 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,240 But you know, he was raising money off of well intentioned people who 144 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:30,320 don't like Donald Trump. And of course a lot of people who give money 145 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,879 to Adam Kinsinger are crazy. But there are a lot of normal people here 146 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:37,000 who were throwing probably five bucks to him because they saw him on MSNBC and 147 00:10:37,039 --> 00:10:41,519 they hated January sixth and took it for the plane. Good took it for 148 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,279 the plane. Well, all right, back to see it. Back to 149 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,720 our originally scheduled programming the White House. Also, this is an Axios report 150 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:52,559 this week Biden in North Carolina, which is where he was campaigning when this 151 00:10:52,679 --> 00:11:00,279 radio interview happened. Biden in North Carolina brought back the term Bidenomics, which 152 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:05,440 has plummeted in use since it was debuted, what was that twenty twenty two, 153 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,720 and maybe it was last year when it was being used by the White 154 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,759 House all the time. Now congressional Republicans are using it like they've used it 155 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:16,480 five hundred times the last I don't know, recent period, and congressional Democrats 156 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,960 are not using it at all. The Biden campaign is not using it at 157 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,200 all. Biden did use it in North Carolina. But it's amazing, Chris, 158 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:28,080 how dumb of a political strategy it is to brand the economy with your 159 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,000 name, given that the economy is always going to be pissing a lot of 160 00:11:33,039 --> 00:11:37,639 people off, especially after a pandemic, Especially after a pandemic. It's just 161 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,279 a lesson of Obamacare, because that's the playbook that the team has rolled out 162 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,279 before, when Republicans coined the term Obamacare, and then it just became synonymous 163 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,960 with it to the point that you hear anyone call it Obamacare essentially, like 164 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,360 the New York Times still calls it the Affordable Care Acts, but most places 165 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,799 will start to call it that. It ended up Obama ended up running with 166 00:11:58,879 --> 00:12:03,360 it, and they're just trying to they're trying to own it because this White 167 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,159 House doesn't realize that their problem is policy, they keep on doubling down and 168 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,840 thinking their problem is messaging. It's a really good point, and their messaging 169 00:12:11,919 --> 00:12:16,080 is not going to message this. As Barack Obama said, you can put 170 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,039 lipstick on a pig. I think that's a really good point because it's why 171 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:26,840 Kareean jump here thought she could be morally indignant at the questions about Biden's health 172 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,200 and the sort of grocery prices. This is not Ronald Reagan, where you 173 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,159 know there was left wing partisan attacks on him saying hey, he's fading, 174 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,639 But you could actually, I think you could probably still be indignant about being 175 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:43,559 accused accusing Ronald Reagan his last years. Second, I could get away with 176 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,039 that Joe Biden. I mean he's trailing off and talking to dead people. 177 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:52,919 I mean we all know what it looks like, because well we've all seen 178 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,399 it. I mean, once you're old enough and you're longer a child and 179 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,320 you're part of family gatherings, you see it and loved ones, so we 180 00:13:01,399 --> 00:13:03,200 know what it looks like. It's not like this is new. As one 181 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,840 of my friend's parents was in the middle of kicking out of his house. 182 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,960 Are you a doctor or Are you a doctor? Because I made some joke 183 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,240 about it. Yeah, it was. It was brutal. It actually been 184 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:18,919 complementing Biden too, But I made a joke at the dinner table about glasses. 185 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,519 Yeah yeah, I was saying, you know, for things. Goodness, 186 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,360 Joe Biden was like so out of it that he actually pulled out of 187 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:30,720 Afghanistan and didn't let the Pentagon totally sabotage him, like they sabotage Trump and 188 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:35,840 sabotage Obama and sabotage Biden. But uh I, we'll remember his son died. 189 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:39,440 Are you a doctor? You doctor? 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He always I don't know if we've mentioned 219 00:16:11,279 --> 00:16:15,279 this on Pipe, but one of Chris is like is only touchdown from his 220 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,600 childhood. He has two of them, the Burger King Kids Club and freaking 221 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:23,120 fern Gully. There are many more g I Joe Transformers things like that, 222 00:16:23,159 --> 00:16:27,039 but these are things only hear about fern Gully. Well, fern Gully disturbed 223 00:16:27,559 --> 00:16:33,919 me at a level that I think gen xers were probably really disturbed to see 224 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:37,240 the fake Indian crying in the side of the road with the litter. Oh 225 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,279 right, like there's certain things you see on TV that just kind of deeply 226 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,600 unsettling. It would be boomers, though, wasn't that in like the early 227 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:48,720 seventies. I don't know, we should we should probably not speculate wildly on 228 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:52,639 that. But if Mark was here, our historian, he would know. 229 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:55,039 Yeah, he'd be like back in mind, you would know the name of 230 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,360 the actors, you'd know the guy who filmed it. He'd know the person 231 00:16:56,399 --> 00:17:00,480 who wrote the script. Why it's interesting because he also wrote this book the 232 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:03,759 whole time might be none of along having no reference point for any of these 233 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:07,160 people or any of the books he's referencing, and then he'll find like an 234 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,319 album credits. He's actually a drummer in this band with this hit. Yeah, 235 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,519 Mark Hemingway, he's like constantly doing the like a version of what Sheldon 236 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:19,440 Whitehouse does where he's like connecting all of the different coke groups to all of 237 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,359 the different like judges around the country. Mark Hemingway can do that just with 238 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,480 like any us. Yeah, Okay, so impressive. It is very impressive. 239 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,920 And Mark actually wrote a great piece for the Federalists this week that Trump 240 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:37,680 blasted out an email on about the anger On case in New York and the 241 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,640 asset valuation, and it was, like you said, Chris, it's it's 242 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:45,440 becoming very difficult. It's always been very difficult. But the vast scope of 243 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:52,160 the law affair campaign against Donald Trump makes it so hard to argue against because 244 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,400 there are so many cases on so many different things, and there's so many 245 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,640 different corrupt judges like Angeron is just one. There's also like Tanya Chuckkin. 246 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,519 There's so many, like it's just so hard to keep them straight. But 247 00:18:06,759 --> 00:18:11,319 Mark Mark can do it because he's doing it with the various actors from Fern 248 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,799 Gully. Presumably my wife can do it too. She can pull down any 249 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:18,599 of those names without having to refresh all She's good. Yeah, who should 250 00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:22,039 get it back on? We should the Trump law fair stuff at this point 251 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,519 is actually she made a good point in the radio yesterday that it's kind of 252 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:32,920 breaking through the Trump fatigue, like the only he claimed for years that he 253 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,599 was persecuted unfairly and everyone's out to get him and this is a lynch mob 254 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,720 and it's unfair and it's unjust, and then he hasn't really been doing the 255 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,640 campaign realities he normally has in the past. Literally they're expensive. I mean, 256 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,319 that's one thing we've heard from his camp is that the rallies are so 257 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,799 expensive, and he has huge legal bills right now. Yeah, they are 258 00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:56,039 expensive. I remember talking to folks who had to help pay for them and 259 00:18:56,039 --> 00:18:59,839 an interviewing them in twenty twenty, and the expenses of the whole thing. 260 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:08,480 But the Trump is disappearing and giving these speeches at these in front of courthouses, 261 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:11,880 and usually after a win, after a win, after a win, 262 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:18,000 and how in twenty sixteen you may have had arguments around the Eastern dinner table 263 00:19:18,039 --> 00:19:22,119 about with family over whether or not the press was biased. You didn't really 264 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,480 have to have that. In twenty twenty the Libs like, yeah, of 265 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:29,359 course, but it should be. And maybe in twenty twenty you'd have arguments 266 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,720 over whether the justice system is fundamentally corrupt. And now this Easter, they're 267 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:37,039 like, well, yeah, but it should be. They should get Trump. 268 00:19:37,079 --> 00:19:40,279 He's a bad guy. But independent voters are looking at this and I 269 00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:47,359 think it's actually somehow breaking through some of the Uh. This is the fatigue 270 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,400 that the American people have for these two you know, ancient candidates who've already 271 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,599 run against each other or running against each other again, it adds a new 272 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,480 twist to it. I think that's a good point, and it reminds me 273 00:19:56,559 --> 00:20:00,839 of another thing I know we wanted to talk about, which was the reappearance 274 00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:06,680 of Barack Obama. Also, James Carville is, you know, waiving the 275 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:12,920 red flag about or pointing. He's gesticulating wildly at the red flags that exists 276 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:18,599 for the potential of a Biden loss. And Bill Clinton was doing something really 277 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,000 similar, sort of crying out in the wilderness before the actual twenty sixteen election 278 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:29,480 took place. He was really nervous. And the connection I see between these 279 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:33,440 two things is the law fair has always been a crutch for Democrats, and 280 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:37,839 so Karine Jean Pierre thinks that she can get away with this moral indignation about 281 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:44,240 the dementia, and it's an offensive, incredibly insulting. She was studying around 282 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,359 for her words because she's also not like she realized she was on a conservative 283 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,480 radio network either, which is like more just stupidity by that. When was 284 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,519 the last time you were on a liberal am radio, Karine Jean Pierre. 285 00:20:53,559 --> 00:20:57,480 I mean seriously, but to that point, you know, I think actually 286 00:20:57,519 --> 00:21:03,759 people believe she people who know believe that she has that job because she's good 287 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:11,640 at being giving bad answers. We're good at giving bad answers. That it's 288 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:15,759 just like three d chests to put a stupid person up there, forty chesty 289 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:21,039 chess. I don't know, but yeah, I don't know. Well not 290 00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:27,160 all just a line about doctor. But the the lawfair is a crutch. 291 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:33,039 The Trump is so evil is a crutch. And what the Biden campaign hasn't 292 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,799 woken up to is the fact that the law fair actually does upset some people. 293 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,519 That it is not enough to just say Donald Trump is the absolute worst 294 00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:44,680 and he's going to destroy democracy in January sixth. January sixth, January sixth, 295 00:21:45,319 --> 00:21:48,640 because there are there is a chunk of swing voters that are not persuaded 296 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,839 by that, who live in an economy that isn't as good as Paul Krugman 297 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:56,279 is telling the Biden White House it is. And it seems like Barack Obama, 298 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:03,680 James carbal and like other people in those circles, they hauled Bill Clinton 299 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:12,599 out of his happy life living out there in New York, estranged from his 300 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:21,839 wife. He clearly doesn't like publicly seeing often with his girlfriend, and he's 301 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,960 no longer. Yeah, he goes around town and is no longer with the 302 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:29,960 longtime friend, longtime friend, and is no longer had to do any work 303 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,200 ever again because he'd had sex with too many women when he was younger, 304 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,160 just living his retirement, and they hauled him out, like go take pictures. 305 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,720 They held the whole team. They had any Liborwitz if you were like 306 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:48,000 one of the top dollar donors this dinner, any Laborwitz would take your picture 307 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:52,319 with Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Actually I didn't hear. That's kind of 308 00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:55,920 cool. I didn't hear about that. I didn't hear about Yeah, it's 309 00:22:56,039 --> 00:23:00,119 like, how can we possibly make the ultimate Manhattan? Like it seems like 310 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,480 something that the cultus would pay for. Yes, no, Joe Biden. 311 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,519 I mean even just having your picture, even though she's kind of like a 312 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:11,720 crazy having she's a photographer, of course, having your picture being taken by 313 00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:15,839 the liborts is kind of cool. Oh yeah, Tom Holmes too, you 314 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:22,519 know, the earth changing people also very cool. It was a it was 315 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:25,680 a sick deal. It's not just like come here and listen watch Joe Biden 316 00:23:25,799 --> 00:23:32,119 like footing from his mouth. It's and uh, and they're they've been leaking 317 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,880 for a while, and Brock Obama like he never liked Joe Biden. The 318 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,079 romance was fake. The year my best friend Happy Birthday, Joe stuff was 319 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,079 always fake. Never respected him. A lot of Democrats never respected Joe Biden, 320 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,880 by the way, because of what we were talking about earlier, the 321 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,640 serial fabulous uh reputation he had going back to when he dropped out of his 322 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:56,519 presidential campaign in the eighties over plagiarism allegations. The fabulousm has dogged him his 323 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,519 entire career. He's never been seen as a particularly strong candidate. But anyway, 324 00:24:02,599 --> 00:24:04,759 he's kind of a jerk sometimes too. He plays himself off with some 325 00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:08,960 solar in chief, but in person he can be very sharp, elbowed the 326 00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:15,799 person that the staffers claim is still there, like galling at them in staff 327 00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:19,960 meetings. Was there at one point? I just don't think he's still there. 328 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,799 Well, and Obama's apparently having calls all the time with Jeff Science, 329 00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:27,799 the White House chief of staff, like this is he has upped his level 330 00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:33,640 of involvement. According to a Washington Post story this week, that is seen 331 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:40,119 as unusual given their fraught relationship. As Chris just described, remember the last, 332 00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:45,039 like, the last big event of Hillary Clinton's campaign was in Philadelphia. 333 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:52,400 It was like Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen in this giant public concert. I 334 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,559 remember that, like it was. It was the big thing he put his 335 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,319 stamp on. Of course, he backed Hillory for office and wanted her to 336 00:24:57,319 --> 00:25:03,279 win. Whereas they don't like I mean, Michelle doesn't like Kamala. Is 337 00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:08,200 that is that reported or is this just your impression? I mean, you 338 00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:14,519 see it go on and Chris spends a lot of time with Michelle and Kamala 339 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:15,960 Harris, just the three of them, and you see it. You see 340 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,960 it. She's never said anything nice about her that I can find. 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Remember when they had the fake DNC with like the 357 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,799 cars blinking their lights in the parking lot and Michelle Obama had recorded a video 358 00:26:44,079 --> 00:26:48,440 for the DNC. She didn't even come and they sent it in for Martha's 359 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,960 Vineyard. But they're like three days before the DNC. Kamala Harris was named 360 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:59,519 as the VP. This is the first black female VP major party is a 361 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:03,599 moment. You know Michelle Obama, who does care a lot about black women 362 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,119 and advancement, and he's kind of like a she's very into the race stuff. 363 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,920 Another opportunity to be proud of her country maybe for the second time. 364 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:15,480 Yeah, she didn't. She didn't mention Kamala Harris once in our speech up 365 00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:18,599 once and then their staff were like, oh, well it was recorded beforehand. 366 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:22,119 It said, we had a couple of days. You couldn't sit down 367 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,720 and re record fifteen minutes where you once mentioned this person. It's because what 368 00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:30,000 are you doing? You have a ghostwriter doing something for you, You're in 369 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,799 market, You're not doing anything. So she just got out of their way 370 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,160 said not say anything nice about this woe. So there's a lot wrong with 371 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,160 the Biden campaign. I think one of the biggest things wrong with them is 372 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,319 their reliance and the general lebroader left reliance on Donald Trump as a crutch, 373 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,559 on law fair as a crutch, without really ever in the last eight years 374 00:27:52,960 --> 00:28:02,319 coming up with a substantive and detailed sort of response to voters who are not 375 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:08,920 persuaded. Some are January six works, Uh, yeah, it will repeal 376 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:15,039 and replace. Yeah, And there's no plan to replace right. So I 377 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,400 think the crutch issue is a huge one. They still don't have a real 378 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,119 substantive, substantive answer for Donald Trump. And it's certainly not Bidenomics. I 379 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,960 mean, maybe on the anti trust front, you can make that argument about 380 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,240 Bidenomics, but it's certainly not Bidenomics, which has now been a bunch of 381 00:28:29,319 --> 00:28:36,839 crony giveaways for green interests and you know, ah, I mean people on 382 00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:40,160 the right even just beat this in new right circles. But let's say a 383 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:48,000 debatable Chips reshoring industrial policy effort. It's just Bidenomics isn't working because a lot 384 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,079 of people are still being battered by this economy. Now, Chris, though, 385 00:28:52,839 --> 00:28:57,200 let's pivot to what Donald Trump is potentially doing wrong or could be doing 386 00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:02,319 better. It's I think is obvious to us what the biden campaign is getting 387 00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:06,759 wrong. Sort of just believing that the media, like Hillary Clinton did, 388 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,960 was too negative about her, too negative about the economy. That's what they 389 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,440 think is happening right now. They just need to persuade voters, and maybe 390 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,640 Korean John Pierre being morally indignant is persuasive to voters. Whatever it is. 391 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,400 On the other hand, this is a close race, very close race. 392 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,599 There was a Quinnipi poll recently that fund Joe Biden up over Trump when it's 393 00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:30,680 just a two person race, which it's not going to just be a two 394 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,440 person race. Trump came out swinging against RFK Junior in a true social post 395 00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:41,400 this week. Is there anything you think is worth discussing about his campaign? 396 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:45,960 He needs to raise some money and spend it go on. Yeah, I 397 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,880 mean, I know that they were massively raised by Hillary Clinton, but that 398 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,680 race was unusual. Yeah, and that's not going to that race is We're 399 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,559 not going to get a repeat of that race is going to be different. 400 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,599 And the GUP has a problem, which is that it's mega donors are moderate 401 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:11,279 and liberal Republicans largely, and they need so he needs to that's bringing them 402 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:14,599 into the fold is going to be difficult for him. The interesting thing is 403 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,279 that Donald Trump is actually not that hardcore of a conservative. If he were 404 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,079 just on the border and trade, well if you consider that conservative, yeah, 405 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,240 yeah, I do, But he wouldn't. He would be kind of 406 00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:30,920 middle of the road for a couple of these other people you see on Capitol 407 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:37,079 Hill. But there's an attachment to him of this. No, I mean 408 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,839 I think the campaign is doing an all right job. I'm curious if some 409 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,480 of the folks they have around them. I'll be interesting to see how the 410 00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:49,440 rn C does revamped under complete lander branded with him. I mean she is 411 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,319 this week, So yeah, Larra Trump, I somehow doubt that Lara Trump 412 00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:56,440 is like a really independent figure, is going to tell her dad now now 413 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,440 the co chair of the r n C for an interview with Garrett Hage this 414 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,720 week, and you know he pushed exactly, Yeah, I agree with that. 415 00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:07,039 It's the same thing. If Ron McDaniel were a true believer, she 416 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:11,559 wouldn't want to be part of NBC at this point, right, I would 417 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:15,839 take six hundred thousand dollars. You're a NBC harpy. Yeah, but that's 418 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,680 because you know that you would get fired right away, I mean right away, 419 00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,720 or I would, and I would say what I think, Yeah, 420 00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:23,319 they wouldn't. They don't want that, you know, they don't want that, 421 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,599 but you know, you would get funded. The New York Times trap 422 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,799 that they wrote about with we want more conservative coverage, but they actually freaking 423 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,319 down they fired someone for doing conservative coverage. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 424 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,319 No, I mean it's it would be a miserable experience does of down with 425 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,200 NBC News. I mean, it's a it's a good lesson. It's tough 426 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:45,920 for you know, the rn C and people who are running campaigns, especially 427 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,839 on the local level, to make decisions like that. I do think it's 428 00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,519 a good lesson of the Ron McDaniel's stuff, though, I mean quickly forgotten 429 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,720 by the establishment GP. Just as you said, the RNC get an interview 430 00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,559 the same week, and I know it's it's uh. They had some trains 431 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:04,920 crossing in the night, the ships crossing, the passing the night sort of 432 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,759 thing there, but Republicans will still go back to NBC and MSNBC. They 433 00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:15,640 know it. What do you make of the sort of catch twenty two of 434 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:22,640 the Trump campaign talking about election integrity? In that one, there are voters 435 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:30,559 who sort of immediately excuse because of media conditioning all conversations of election discussion or 436 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:37,400 election policy. I mean election integrity as being kooky. January sixth Maga radical 437 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,400 stuff without and that, you know, makes it impossible to talk about what 438 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,799 Molly's entire book is. I mean, it's not impossible obviously, because Molly 439 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:49,359 has made a huge influence with that book Rigged, but it is. You 440 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,599 know, there are some voters, maybe independents, that just don't want to 441 00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:55,480 hear about that, and it's a hard sort of brick wall for them. 442 00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:59,599 On the other hand, if you talk about it too much, do you 443 00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:05,240 heart turnout among Trump voters that don't trust the process. I don't know what 444 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,440 you think about that question. I'm not sure we've ever talked about it. 445 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,240 But Trump is still out talking out of both sides of their mouth on it, 446 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,799 and it's hard. You can't feel like we need to do early voting. 447 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,839 Also early voting is rigged, right, Yes, exactly. They need 448 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,319 to actually have a little bit of message discipline. I mean, is that 449 00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,039 part of the one I think? I thought when I was covering January sixth 450 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,079 of the Federalists, I was looking around, I was like, well, 451 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:30,720 in twenty sixteen, the week before the election, the Week magazine had this 452 00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:37,039 cover that had a bunch of raging torch bearing, MAGA hat wearing rioters swimming 453 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,680 through the streets, and it was basically they were predicting, like the coming 454 00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:45,920 white riot that's going to happen when Taylor Clinton wins this election. And of 455 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,599 course, I mean, there hadn't really been like a white riot in this 456 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,200 country in decades at all. I mean, it's been been a long time 457 00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:59,160 since you'd seen the kind of mass civil disturbance among that crowd of folks. 458 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:02,200 And it just didn't happen. And they kept on per tending it was gonna 459 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:08,360 happen any day now. Antifa would go around like smashing up minivans and attacking 460 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:14,159 old men and old women with their granddaughters at basic Republican rallies, and they 461 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,719 screamed, look, there's political violence. What are you talking about, Like, 462 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,360 look, there's a neo Nazi biker gang that sells mes. Like, 463 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,079 that's not political violence. It's a neo Nazi biker gang. It's selling me. 464 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:29,199 Yeah. But then January sixth happened. They finally they finally give them 465 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:30,719 the rope. So, oh yeah, here it is. No bit happened. 466 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,280 It wasn't the tea party crowd. It wasn't the activist crowd. It 467 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,800 wasn't the crowd you'd see it a lot of these different things. It was 468 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,159 a kind of Info Wars crowd. And I've very forgotten folks crowd a close 469 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,320 election. I mean, in a close election. First of all, Info 470 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,639 Wars has a huge audience, but the corporate price on the one hand dismisses 471 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,960 info Wars is like insane and not influential, and on the other hand is 472 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,920 like they're the biggest threat in the world. But all that is to say, 473 00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:00,639 info Wars has a big audience and just frankly that i'mographic has grown and 474 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:05,480 in a place like Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, Michigan where there's a close race that 475 00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:09,199 can determine the electoral outcome, you actually want those people to feel good about 476 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,440 casting about for donnine. I like what Trump said is we need to we 477 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,079 need I think it's a good message and we need to win by so much 478 00:35:16,159 --> 00:35:22,559 they can't rig it, which means I need you out there. Real wealth 479 00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:25,280 takes time and effort. Don't look for a quick and easy way to make 480 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,960 a book. The Watchdout on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day 481 00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:32,800 Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy and how it affects your 482 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,519 wile. Internet scammers are opposing as billionaires to try and give you financial advice 483 00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:42,519 with captions about where you should invest your money. Be careful of anything you 484 00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:45,320 read online, whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street. It's 485 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,719 affecting you financially. Be informed. Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast 486 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,039 with Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 487 00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:58,920 That's impossible. Don't you think that's impossible? Though? No, No, 488 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,639 I think that lasts. In twenty twenty, there was a lot of Shenanigans, 489 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,199 a lot in major cities. Always written about it. We covered it. 490 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,920 I went down there with Dave Marcus the day after. I talked to 491 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,639 disaffected Democrats have been turned out by the wolasters who had worked for years, 492 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,320 and how to fudge the numbers around these sorts of things. There's a lie 493 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,800 every time you find a dead person in the ballot, because there's a two 494 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,920 hundred and three hundred living people who didn't vote, who voted, and that 495 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,320 dead person just got caught up in it and you busted them. There's all 496 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,920 these other these people are alive, but they didn't vote. That's how you 497 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,679 get those dead people voting. They don't go to the cemeteries finding dead people 498 00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:38,480 and write them down. That's how you get caught. You go to Philadelphia. 499 00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:40,480 I talked to a bunch of voters like you get there on the sell 500 00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:47,000 you've already voted time I haven't. This stuff happens. But even with that, 501 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,519 with a historically unpopular Trump who completely mismanaged COVID, and a declining and 502 00:36:53,599 --> 00:37:01,000 frightened economy, and with an historically popular Joe Biden grandfather you'ler untested president, 503 00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:07,280 they all these things come together and the Democrats can barely eke it out. 504 00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:13,159 Yeah, so now you've got resurgeon Trump. Most of what he said has 505 00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:19,960 been born out is true. With incredibly weak Joe Biden. I think that 506 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,280 it's a good message to kind of for them to say, we need to 507 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:27,719 win, but we but you need to win by so much that these little 508 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,400 fudges around the margins and this and that, these rounding errors don't have the 509 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,639 impact. And Trump doesn't have the option of not talking about the lawfair. 510 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:42,559 You know, in a perfect world that a political scientist strategist would create a 511 00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:49,079 political science strategist or strategists scientists would create in a lab. You know, 512 00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:52,679 Donald Trump wouldn't have to talk about the lawfair because you know it never had 513 00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:57,239 happened. Like if you could create as a Trump support of perfect conditions electorally. 514 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,400 But these trials are playing out over the course of election year, and 515 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,639 they are going to be front and center because that's the crutch that Democrats are 516 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:12,840 working really hard to lean on and to make again front and center. Even 517 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,920 though I don't think that's a great strategy, it does leave Trump without the 518 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,440 option of just ignoring all of it. And I would say the best way 519 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,079 to win over independence on it is to own it, to be like just 520 00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:29,199 full, like, don't worry about going to don't be timid about it, 521 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:34,480 don't worry about cash. You just have to like this is rigged. They're 522 00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:37,639 they're rigging it. They're filing law fair cases that they would never file against 523 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,360 Hillary Clinton or whomever. Don't get bogged out in twenty twenty reliving that stuff. 524 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,920 Talk about what they're doing right now. Great, more than enough ammunition 525 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,079 right now. And Laura Trump in her interview with NBC in fact, when 526 00:38:49,559 --> 00:38:51,760 when she was asked about twenty twenty, she said that's in the past, 527 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,840 that's in the past. She like repeated it twice. And so maybe that 528 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,800 is the strategy. I mean, I don't know, like they're it's it's 529 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:04,360 a frustrating like yeah, no, he can't he But at the same time, 530 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,239 I don't know that that's necessarily bad on the question of law fair because 531 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,360 you have to dive into that one head first and be really bold about it, 532 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,559 because otherwise people are going to be like, well, maybe he is 533 00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:19,440 guilty. Yeah, you do. I think if these lawsuits had dropped in 534 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,360 the middle of summer, as opposed to six months ago, and they hadn't 535 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,159 sort of the collapse yet, people would just assume guild, Yeah, that's 536 00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:30,719 true. The collapse has been pretty brutal. Yeah, they came too early, 537 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:42,000 and they didn't they didn't deliver, and the common the The other part 538 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:45,119 of that is potentially people are just they don't vote for Trump, or they 539 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:49,119 don't vote or they vote for Biden. Another problem with us because they're so 540 00:39:49,159 --> 00:39:52,679 sick of hearing the damn lawsuits and they feel like it's something that's bogging the 541 00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,039 country down, and they do care about the economy. I think Trump is 542 00:39:55,119 --> 00:40:00,280 generally pretty smart about talking about the economy, talking about issues, whether it 543 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,320 is the economy or firm policy or trade whatever it is. In ways, 544 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,760 when Hillar Clinton was off talking about like Latin X trans rights on Broad City, 545 00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:13,039 I think Trump is generally pretty good about that. To begin with, 546 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:15,519 That's something I think he understands better than a lot of people who are caught 547 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:21,920 up in the weird like Twitter, culture ward. Not that he isn't, 548 00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,320 but I think if you listen to his rallies, he's pretty good about keeping 549 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:30,960 that front and center, better than politicians on the left and the right. 550 00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:35,079 But I think there's also there's that factor. This is another catch twenty two 551 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,199 twenty two for Trump and Republicans that people are just they feel like he was 552 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,880 the one that raised the temperature in the country, which I think is maybe 553 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,440 only half true, because he was responding to other people that already want to 554 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,800 respond to give them friction. He responded with a punch. The reason why 555 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,400 he was fighting with major League Baseball, in kids, television networks in Hollywood 556 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,639 and Europe is because all these different places were taking take taking right. They 557 00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:07,079 were the culture war was Rich McConnell's a fool about this. It's it's not 558 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:12,079 an offensive from the right, it's the left is in the trenches. It's 559 00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:15,559 a completely defensive battle. Trump could just sit there and the attacks from ESPN 560 00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:19,960 and Disney would come in. We get to punch back. Yeah, I 561 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,599 mean Obama raised the temperature significantly, and Trump responded not by trying to cool 562 00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:27,480 things down but with a punch. You know, the Republican candidates were trying 563 00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:30,719 to cool things down and act like the Obama presidency was just an aberration, 564 00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:37,880 and it wasn't because that approach had infiltrated culture and business. And that's another 565 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,119 thing the left, it's it's their crutches. Do you remember he ended his 566 00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:45,039 White House years getting screamed at by illegal immigrants in his own White House. 567 00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:49,840 How did this to get into that White House? I'm not, I'm like 568 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,480 hardly a big like Trump fan. But one of the things here is, 569 00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:57,800 like Trump's opponents, I keep on forgetting you're such a Trump sissy. He 570 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,679 is, I con miss you with the flight ninety three zero. But then 571 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,559 you maybe it's stinked back. Who's to say? It's did you vote for 572 00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:08,320 Kanye? Yeah? I vote for Kanye? Well did you not vote for 573 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,880 Kanye? Do you? Are you racist? No? Are you kidding me? 574 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,360 I've been I've been so determined I did not for racist. I love 575 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:21,639 Kanye. I've been I mean Kanye loves Kanye. Yes, I've been so 576 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,679 determined to just be on the list of like the Democrats list for people to 577 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:30,519 round up that I voted early for Trump both times in DC, and I 578 00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:36,480 walked around with my I voted sticker and people were like like, here's like 579 00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:39,960 thank you, and I'm like, you're welcome idea. I'm like, yeah, 580 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,800 thank you for voting. Thank you, You're welcome. Those pin eared 581 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,639 breeces are continuously like allowing the Democratic Party to or asking the Democratic Party like 582 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:55,440 smuggle this radical agenda into like this into all of our institutions and our culture 583 00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,800 by just leaning on the anti Trump STU constantly like just to be like Trump 584 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,880 is so crazy. Trump is so crazy, and but like you just keep 585 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,400 voting for us because Trump is so crazy. And then what happens is, 586 00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:12,840 you know, Biden comes back into office and does crazy stuff with the administrative 587 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,719 state on all these issues. Is about to make a decision on the title 588 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,039 nine Things, which is going to thrust college campuses back into kangaroo courts. 589 00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:22,000 It's going to do all kinds of crazy stuff. So job well done. 590 00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:24,760 Everyone seems like we're all on the right. It's like what Dave Chappelle said 591 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,320 about in his last skit on OJ Simpson. He's like, I don't think 592 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,239 he did it. Even if he did do it, I mean, you 593 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:38,000 know what I mean about Trump right now? And OJ read that book, 594 00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:43,119 Remember that was like, if I find it, I would have done it 595 00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:45,639 very differently. All right, anything else you want to add about OJ? 596 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:51,199 Joe Biden? Cream Jumpierre, Let's go get a beer. Okay, I'm 597 00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:54,159 stealing coffee made right now, Christopher Bedford, I woke up earlier than you. 598 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,840 Yeah, I believe that. Well, no, not today. I 599 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,199 had a morning show. All right, you've been listening to another edition of 600 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,239 the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm like Koshinski, culture editor here at the Federalist 601 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,239 Joint Today by Christopher Bedford. Will be back sooner or more. Until then, 602 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,360 be the lovers of freedom and anxious for the frame