We're back with another edition at the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Dashinski,
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version of the website as well. I'm joined today by Christopher Bedford, who
has some thoughts on the Biden campaigns at recent foundering. Did you catch I
actually didn't ask you this, Chris. Did you catch Karine Jean Pierre's interview
with the North Carolina AM radio host and the American Hero. Did you see
that? Yeah? He asked the two most obvious questions of a Biden campaign
spokesman. He's like, I got to get it out of the way.
I mean a lot of people have been asking. They said, I have
to ask you this. Does Biden have dementia? And what's going on with
the prices of groceries? That's it, That's all I did. And she
hung up the phone and she called them insulting an offensive or the comments insulting
and offensive, and those are like the if Biden needs to answer any two
questions to convince voters to pick him again. Voters that aren't you just motivated
by casting about against Trump. They just really think Trump is dangerous. They
don't want Donald Trump to be president again. All everyone else what is weighing
on their minds is is this dude? Okay? And why are my bills
so high? So cringe. Pieri we all know is like a pretty important
historic figure. She is the dumbest press secretary. That's I don't know that
in White House. I don't know who's dumber. Who's dumber in the history
of all press secretaries? Yeah, head of white Wallace. No, you
she's crazy, but she's not stupid. Yeah that might be true. She's
pretty bad that she's egregious. She's a moonbad to see her this week.
It's just really embarrassing. Sacred away her sacred airways and the sacristy, and
it's like, okay, you're a former Republican, but I didn't know you're
that like formally Christian. Really sad, But that's just that's a crazy person.
Creamchy appears is bad. Okay. So she gets asked on the air
about grocery bills and dementia, two things that every aspect of white House.
Pauline shows you are top of the minds of the American voters. Like you'd
think that you have an answer. So let me just say, Okay,
I'm not the Biden pressed secretary, but my answer would be no, No,
the President doesn't have dementia. Listen. I deal with him. I
work with him every day. He is sharp, he is moving. Of
course, he's not a young man. He moves in a little bit of
a grandfatherly way, but his mind is as sharp as it has ever been.
He is engaged, and he's engaged in issues in American people. Fully
assumed the role, and you did it with such gusto you were. You
were excited to answer that question. As Jean Pierre, it's not hard,
Christopher, Jean Pierre grocery bills like, hey, listen, we inherited from
our predecessor an economic disaster. COVID had been mismanaged, supply chains were spirally,
and we have the white of white House has worked to decrease inflation,
to bring it back under control for the American consumer. Next question, Oh,
my gosh, these aren't hard questions. You should probably stop doing journalism
and just go into calms. Because that was well executed and you put very
little thought into it too, thank you. It's really it's easy to lie,
Yeah, it is, though it is well. Actually that reminds me
of I don't know here. So Alex Jones was right on Tucker's I don't
know if you watched him on talking the other day. No, what did
he say? He said that truth telling and lying are both things like going
to the gym, they are habits there. They are habit for me.
If you're someone who doesn't lie, yeah, and it just becomes a habit
where it becomes strange. But if you're someone who does lie and you get
comfortable lying, you end up lying about small stuff. You end up lying
Your watch's like why you're light. It's like I got the light of the
office. It's a small little thing. So you didn't like get a beer
with your friend or something. And it builds and it builds and it builds.
So it's habitual. So going in going into the White House comms dangerous
path. Yes, I was going to say it because your example sounded oddly
personal. I was hot like a hell about the office, but I was
actually having some beers. I never lie, sir, and you can't.
You can't because she's an investigative reporter better than most two guesses too, so
I don't have to like be so obviously sitting there and I'm like, I'll
be all man a half an hour. So I thought you were about five
minutes away, and I said, I'll be silence. You're going to get
my tie. I am going to get to my I feel like I've earned
my tie. She's like, already, I already filed a for you walk
out the door like whistling with my bag. I'm sure look at me,
and surely you're going to the brewery to work. We're I'm good to the
Port City. I've worked from Fort City. Sometimes it's great. Well,
the was Alection's was he talking to tuck her about the like Joe Biden in
general? Because Biden is the best example of somebody who's habitually a fabulous and
fabulous is a kind word. But it is true that like he does tell
a lot of small lies that are probably best described as fabulism. And the
Freebeacon caught him in a hell of a lie this week about his origin story.
Did you see this story? Yeah, I read it. Joe Simonson
Andrew Kerr, great reporters. They they went to the National Archives and basically
proved that this story Biden had told a lot and told under oath to Special
Counsel Robert Herr about getting involved in politics because when he was a lawyer,
he had to defend some company after a while lost his penis and it's like
an incredible story that sounds face. It was a very bad and very personal
injury to a welder's manliness, and he supposedly offended the company and he's very
good young lawyer, so he won. But he looked over at that poor
young man and said, I'm in the wrong line of business because this man
deserves money for his penis being well. It turns out he did because he
was really really badly injured by a workplace for sake. But Biden wasn't on
the cases before. He was there as student, and they lost the case
and had an historically high payout at the time to the welder. Yeah,
and he seems to be misremembering and misrepresenting probably a combination of both the details
of what actually happened in that story. But it's yeah, I think that's
true, and it reminds me actually Chris of in a weird way, roundabout
way. And I know this is a tangent. We'll get back to the
regularly scheduled programming in a second, but it reminds me of something Ron McDaniels
said in her first and last interview as a NBC News con If MBC wants
to hire me for six hundred grand two year contract, shoot made a call,
show me a text email. I'll keep my pager' on. So actually,
and I will only last one interview, I said, so I said
this on Megan kellysh this, but I actually think that's a better idea than
hiring Ronal McDaniel. Like you should go, like you should find somebody who
is an actual conservative instead of Ronald McDaniel, who said, I mean,
I think she's like relatively conservative, but like she's not. She's a political
operative. And in that conversation with Kristin Walker, Kristin Walker asked her,
you know, why shouldn't condemn something Trump said about the election before leaving,
and Ron McDaniel's answer was exactly what people would expect, which was, you
know, I was taking one. When you work for the party, you
have to take one for the team and now I can be more myself,
meaning ron McDaniel was playing a fake version of Ronal McDaniel as the chair of
the RNC while complaining about media coverage and blah blah blah. She was inauthentic
as the r and C chair. And it is true that you have to,
you know, defend your principle when you're in communications like Karine Jean Pierre
had to pretend to be insulted by the notion that Joe Biden doesn't have dementia,
which she does see I'm sure up close and personal every single day,
along with the White House Press Corps, who never asks her those questions,
which is why she was so surprised. It's just a miserable job. But
Roni McDaniel just you know, answering that question in her audition for this three
hundred thousand dollars a year gig, being like, I can be more myself
now. That's exactly why NBC News should not want Ronald McDaniel and should want
Christopher Romney Bedford. But you ditched that because you got upset about Romney.
You are actually, yeah, the long line of Utah Mormons, Mexican Mormons.
He was, he was actually governor of my state. Oh right,
that's right. Yeah, he built it. They've built a big he loves
in my grandfather's town, build a big Mormon temple. It's just but seriously,
that's it. Romney is the kind of person they want on NBC.
They want this new version of Rona McDaniel. They don't want somebody who is
actually going to vociferously defend a conservative cultural positions and conservative critiques of the establishment.
And you know, hey, like ron McDaniel, totally normal person to
hire for that job, especially for MSNBC, which initially really wanted her,
because they want, as Joy Reid said this week, more Adam Kinsinger's and
more Liz Cheney's. That's what they want. And you know, fine,
that's there. If their business now is just to cater to that niche and
if they can be honest about with his campaign, you see that. I
thought it was brilliant. So this is the I don't want to compare this
to I was going to make a comparison to another big campaign, but I
actually don't know if it's fair either way. People are realizing what they can
use packs for when they decide to leave office, and that is like basically
taking money that you raised and use it for transferring it to another girl.
There are large swats of the country where it's a lot easier to get around
if you have a little two seeded airplane, healthy city airplane. Hell yeah.
But so he needed that. He needed the back money to buy him
and his wife a little airplane present so you can get around the same more
easily. You needed. Stunning mediocrity that guy is. But that was impressive.
But you know, he was raising money off of well intentioned people who
don't like Donald Trump. And of course a lot of people who give money
to Adam Kinsinger are crazy. But there are a lot of normal people here
who were throwing probably five bucks to him because they saw him on MSNBC and
they hated January sixth and took it for the plane. Good took it for
the plane. Well, all right, back to see it. Back to
our originally scheduled programming the White House. Also, this is an Axios report
this week Biden in North Carolina, which is where he was campaigning when this
radio interview happened. Biden in North Carolina brought back the term Bidenomics, which
has plummeted in use since it was debuted, what was that twenty twenty two,
and maybe it was last year when it was being used by the White
House all the time. Now congressional Republicans are using it like they've used it
five hundred times the last I don't know, recent period, and congressional Democrats
are not using it at all. The Biden campaign is not using it at
all. Biden did use it in North Carolina. But it's amazing, Chris,
how dumb of a political strategy it is to brand the economy with your
name, given that the economy is always going to be pissing a lot of
people off, especially after a pandemic, Especially after a pandemic. It's just
a lesson of Obamacare, because that's the playbook that the team has rolled out
before, when Republicans coined the term Obamacare, and then it just became synonymous
with it to the point that you hear anyone call it Obamacare essentially, like
the New York Times still calls it the Affordable Care Acts, but most places
will start to call it that. It ended up Obama ended up running with
it, and they're just trying to they're trying to own it because this White
House doesn't realize that their problem is policy, they keep on doubling down and
thinking their problem is messaging. It's a really good point, and their messaging
is not going to message this. As Barack Obama said, you can put
lipstick on a pig. I think that's a really good point because it's why
Kareean jump here thought she could be morally indignant at the questions about Biden's health
and the sort of grocery prices. This is not Ronald Reagan, where you
know there was left wing partisan attacks on him saying hey, he's fading,
But you could actually, I think you could probably still be indignant about being
accused accusing Ronald Reagan his last years. Second, I could get away with
that Joe Biden. I mean he's trailing off and talking to dead people.
I mean we all know what it looks like, because well we've all seen
it. I mean, once you're old enough and you're longer a child and
you're part of family gatherings, you see it and loved ones, so we
know what it looks like. It's not like this is new. As one
of my friend's parents was in the middle of kicking out of his house.
Are you a doctor or Are you a doctor? Because I made some joke
about it. Yeah, it was. It was brutal. It actually been
complementing Biden too, But I made a joke at the dinner table about glasses.
Yeah yeah, I was saying, you know, for things. Goodness,
Joe Biden was like so out of it that he actually pulled out of
Afghanistan and didn't let the Pentagon totally sabotage him, like they sabotage Trump and
sabotage Obama and sabotage Biden. But uh I, we'll remember his son died.
Are you a doctor? You doctor? Like I don't need to be
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this on Pipe, but one of Chris is like is only touchdown from his
childhood. He has two of them, the Burger King Kids Club and freaking
fern Gully. There are many more g I Joe Transformers things like that,
but these are things only hear about fern Gully. Well, fern Gully disturbed
me at a level that I think gen xers were probably really disturbed to see
the fake Indian crying in the side of the road with the litter. Oh
right, like there's certain things you see on TV that just kind of deeply
unsettling. It would be boomers, though, wasn't that in like the early
seventies. I don't know, we should we should probably not speculate wildly on
that. But if Mark was here, our historian, he would know.
Yeah, he'd be like back in mind, you would know the name of
the actors, you'd know the guy who filmed it. He'd know the person
who wrote the script. Why it's interesting because he also wrote this book the
whole time might be none of along having no reference point for any of these
people or any of the books he's referencing, and then he'll find like an
album credits. He's actually a drummer in this band with this hit. Yeah,
Mark Hemingway, he's like constantly doing the like a version of what Sheldon
Whitehouse does where he's like connecting all of the different coke groups to all of
the different like judges around the country. Mark Hemingway can do that just with
like any us. Yeah, Okay, so impressive. It is very impressive.
And Mark actually wrote a great piece for the Federalists this week that Trump
blasted out an email on about the anger On case in New York and the
asset valuation, and it was, like you said, Chris, it's it's
becoming very difficult. It's always been very difficult. But the vast scope of
the law affair campaign against Donald Trump makes it so hard to argue against because
there are so many cases on so many different things, and there's so many
different corrupt judges like Angeron is just one. There's also like Tanya Chuckkin.
There's so many, like it's just so hard to keep them straight. But
Mark Mark can do it because he's doing it with the various actors from Fern
Gully. Presumably my wife can do it too. She can pull down any
of those names without having to refresh all She's good. Yeah, who should
get it back on? We should the Trump law fair stuff at this point
is actually she made a good point in the radio yesterday that it's kind of
breaking through the Trump fatigue, like the only he claimed for years that he
was persecuted unfairly and everyone's out to get him and this is a lynch mob
and it's unfair and it's unjust, and then he hasn't really been doing the
campaign realities he normally has in the past. Literally they're expensive. I mean,
that's one thing we've heard from his camp is that the rallies are so
expensive, and he has huge legal bills right now. Yeah, they are
expensive. I remember talking to folks who had to help pay for them and
an interviewing them in twenty twenty, and the expenses of the whole thing.
But the Trump is disappearing and giving these speeches at these in front of courthouses,
and usually after a win, after a win, after a win,
and how in twenty sixteen you may have had arguments around the Eastern dinner table
about with family over whether or not the press was biased. You didn't really
have to have that. In twenty twenty the Libs like, yeah, of
course, but it should be. And maybe in twenty twenty you'd have arguments
over whether the justice system is fundamentally corrupt. And now this Easter, they're
like, well, yeah, but it should be. They should get Trump.
He's a bad guy. But independent voters are looking at this and I
think it's actually somehow breaking through some of the Uh. This is the fatigue
that the American people have for these two you know, ancient candidates who've already
run against each other or running against each other again, it adds a new
twist to it. I think that's a good point, and it reminds me
of another thing I know we wanted to talk about, which was the reappearance
of Barack Obama. Also, James Carville is, you know, waiving the
red flag about or pointing. He's gesticulating wildly at the red flags that exists
for the potential of a Biden loss. And Bill Clinton was doing something really
similar, sort of crying out in the wilderness before the actual twenty sixteen election
took place. He was really nervous. And the connection I see between these
two things is the law fair has always been a crutch for Democrats, and
so Karine Jean Pierre thinks that she can get away with this moral indignation about
the dementia, and it's an offensive, incredibly insulting. She was studying around
for her words because she's also not like she realized she was on a conservative
radio network either, which is like more just stupidity by that. When was
the last time you were on a liberal am radio, Karine Jean Pierre.
I mean seriously, but to that point, you know, I think actually
people believe she people who know believe that she has that job because she's good
at being giving bad answers. We're good at giving bad answers. That it's
just like three d chests to put a stupid person up there, forty chesty
chess. I don't know, but yeah, I don't know. Well not
all just a line about doctor. But the the lawfair is a crutch.
The Trump is so evil is a crutch. And what the Biden campaign hasn't
woken up to is the fact that the law fair actually does upset some people.
That it is not enough to just say Donald Trump is the absolute worst
and he's going to destroy democracy in January sixth. January sixth, January sixth,
because there are there is a chunk of swing voters that are not persuaded
by that, who live in an economy that isn't as good as Paul Krugman
is telling the Biden White House it is. And it seems like Barack Obama,
James carbal and like other people in those circles, they hauled Bill Clinton
out of his happy life living out there in New York, estranged from his
wife. He clearly doesn't like publicly seeing often with his girlfriend, and he's
no longer. Yeah, he goes around town and is no longer with the
longtime friend, longtime friend, and is no longer had to do any work
ever again because he'd had sex with too many women when he was younger,
just living his retirement, and they hauled him out, like go take pictures.
They held the whole team. They had any Liborwitz if you were like
one of the top dollar donors this dinner, any Laborwitz would take your picture
with Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Actually I didn't hear. That's kind of
cool. I didn't hear about that. I didn't hear about Yeah, it's
like, how can we possibly make the ultimate Manhattan? Like it seems like
something that the cultus would pay for. Yes, no, Joe Biden.
I mean even just having your picture, even though she's kind of like a
crazy having she's a photographer, of course, having your picture being taken by
the liborts is kind of cool. Oh yeah, Tom Holmes too, you
know, the earth changing people also very cool. It was a it was
a sick deal. It's not just like come here and listen watch Joe Biden
like footing from his mouth. It's and uh, and they're they've been leaking
for a while, and Brock Obama like he never liked Joe Biden. The
romance was fake. The year my best friend Happy Birthday, Joe stuff was
always fake. Never respected him. A lot of Democrats never respected Joe Biden,
by the way, because of what we were talking about earlier, the
serial fabulous uh reputation he had going back to when he dropped out of his
presidential campaign in the eighties over plagiarism allegations. The fabulousm has dogged him his
entire career. He's never been seen as a particularly strong candidate. But anyway,
he's kind of a jerk sometimes too. He plays himself off with some
solar in chief, but in person he can be very sharp, elbowed the
person that the staffers claim is still there, like galling at them in staff
meetings. Was there at one point? I just don't think he's still there.
Well, and Obama's apparently having calls all the time with Jeff Science,
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cars blinking their lights in the parking lot and Michelle Obama had recorded a video
for the DNC. She didn't even come and they sent it in for Martha's
Vineyard. But they're like three days before the DNC. Kamala Harris was named
as the VP. This is the first black female VP major party is a
moment. You know Michelle Obama, who does care a lot about black women
and advancement, and he's kind of like a she's very into the race stuff.
Another opportunity to be proud of her country maybe for the second time.
Yeah, she didn't. She didn't mention Kamala Harris once in our speech up
once and then their staff were like, oh, well it was recorded beforehand.
It said, we had a couple of days. You couldn't sit down
and re record fifteen minutes where you once mentioned this person. It's because what
are you doing? You have a ghostwriter doing something for you, You're in
market, You're not doing anything. So she just got out of their way
said not say anything nice about this woe. So there's a lot wrong with
the Biden campaign. I think one of the biggest things wrong with them is
their reliance and the general lebroader left reliance on Donald Trump as a crutch,
on law fair as a crutch, without really ever in the last eight years
coming up with a substantive and detailed sort of response to voters who are not
persuaded. Some are January six works, Uh, yeah, it will repeal
and replace. Yeah, And there's no plan to replace right. So I
think the crutch issue is a huge one. They still don't have a real
substantive, substantive answer for Donald Trump. And it's certainly not Bidenomics. I
mean, maybe on the anti trust front, you can make that argument about
Bidenomics, but it's certainly not Bidenomics, which has now been a bunch of
crony giveaways for green interests and you know, ah, I mean people on
the right even just beat this in new right circles. But let's say a
debatable Chips reshoring industrial policy effort. It's just Bidenomics isn't working because a lot
of people are still being battered by this economy. Now, Chris, though,
let's pivot to what Donald Trump is potentially doing wrong or could be doing
better. It's I think is obvious to us what the biden campaign is getting
wrong. Sort of just believing that the media, like Hillary Clinton did,
was too negative about her, too negative about the economy. That's what they
think is happening right now. They just need to persuade voters, and maybe
Korean John Pierre being morally indignant is persuasive to voters. Whatever it is.
On the other hand, this is a close race, very close race.
There was a Quinnipi poll recently that fund Joe Biden up over Trump when it's
just a two person race, which it's not going to just be a two
person race. Trump came out swinging against RFK Junior in a true social post
this week. Is there anything you think is worth discussing about his campaign?
He needs to raise some money and spend it go on. Yeah, I
mean, I know that they were massively raised by Hillary Clinton, but that
race was unusual. Yeah, and that's not going to that race is We're
not going to get a repeat of that race is going to be different.
And the GUP has a problem, which is that it's mega donors are moderate
and liberal Republicans largely, and they need so he needs to that's bringing them
into the fold is going to be difficult for him. The interesting thing is
that Donald Trump is actually not that hardcore of a conservative. If he were
just on the border and trade, well if you consider that conservative, yeah,
yeah, I do, But he wouldn't. He would be kind of
middle of the road for a couple of these other people you see on Capitol
Hill. But there's an attachment to him of this. No, I mean
I think the campaign is doing an all right job. I'm curious if some
of the folks they have around them. I'll be interesting to see how the
rn C does revamped under complete lander branded with him. I mean she is
this week, So yeah, Larra Trump, I somehow doubt that Lara Trump
is like a really independent figure, is going to tell her dad now now
the co chair of the r n C for an interview with Garrett Hage this
week, and you know he pushed exactly, Yeah, I agree with that.
It's the same thing. If Ron McDaniel were a true believer, she
wouldn't want to be part of NBC at this point, right, I would
take six hundred thousand dollars. You're a NBC harpy. Yeah, but that's
because you know that you would get fired right away, I mean right away,
or I would, and I would say what I think, Yeah,
they wouldn't. They don't want that, you know, they don't want that,
but you know, you would get funded. The New York Times trap
that they wrote about with we want more conservative coverage, but they actually freaking
down they fired someone for doing conservative coverage. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
No, I mean it's it would be a miserable experience does of down with
NBC News. I mean, it's a it's a good lesson. It's tough
for you know, the rn C and people who are running campaigns, especially
on the local level, to make decisions like that. I do think it's
a good lesson of the Ron McDaniel's stuff, though, I mean quickly forgotten
by the establishment GP. Just as you said, the RNC get an interview
the same week, and I know it's it's uh. They had some trains
crossing in the night, the ships crossing, the passing the night sort of
thing there, but Republicans will still go back to NBC and MSNBC. They
know it. What do you make of the sort of catch twenty two of
the Trump campaign talking about election integrity? In that one, there are voters
who sort of immediately excuse because of media conditioning all conversations of election discussion or
election policy. I mean election integrity as being kooky. January sixth Maga radical
stuff without and that, you know, makes it impossible to talk about what
Molly's entire book is. I mean, it's not impossible obviously, because Molly
has made a huge influence with that book Rigged, but it is. You
know, there are some voters, maybe independents, that just don't want to
hear about that, and it's a hard sort of brick wall for them.
On the other hand, if you talk about it too much, do you
heart turnout among Trump voters that don't trust the process. I don't know what
you think about that question. I'm not sure we've ever talked about it.
But Trump is still out talking out of both sides of their mouth on it,
and it's hard. You can't feel like we need to do early voting.
Also early voting is rigged, right, Yes, exactly. They need
to actually have a little bit of message discipline. I mean, is that
part of the one I think? I thought when I was covering January sixth
of the Federalists, I was looking around, I was like, well,
in twenty sixteen, the week before the election, the Week magazine had this
cover that had a bunch of raging torch bearing, MAGA hat wearing rioters swimming
through the streets, and it was basically they were predicting, like the coming
white riot that's going to happen when Taylor Clinton wins this election. And of
course, I mean, there hadn't really been like a white riot in this
country in decades at all. I mean, it's been been a long time
since you'd seen the kind of mass civil disturbance among that crowd of folks.
And it just didn't happen. And they kept on per tending it was gonna
happen any day now. Antifa would go around like smashing up minivans and attacking
old men and old women with their granddaughters at basic Republican rallies, and they
screamed, look, there's political violence. What are you talking about, Like,
look, there's a neo Nazi biker gang that sells mes. Like,
that's not political violence. It's a neo Nazi biker gang. It's selling me.
Yeah. But then January sixth happened. They finally they finally give them
the rope. So, oh yeah, here it is. No bit happened.
It wasn't the tea party crowd. It wasn't the activist crowd. It
wasn't the crowd you'd see it a lot of these different things. It was
a kind of Info Wars crowd. And I've very forgotten folks crowd a close
election. I mean, in a close election. First of all, Info
Wars has a huge audience, but the corporate price on the one hand dismisses
info Wars is like insane and not influential, and on the other hand is
like they're the biggest threat in the world. But all that is to say,
info Wars has a big audience and just frankly that i'mographic has grown and
in a place like Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, Michigan where there's a close race that
can determine the electoral outcome, you actually want those people to feel good about
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That's impossible. Don't you think that's impossible? Though? No, No,
I think that lasts. In twenty twenty, there was a lot of Shenanigans,
a lot in major cities. Always written about it. We covered it.
I went down there with Dave Marcus the day after. I talked to
disaffected Democrats have been turned out by the wolasters who had worked for years,
and how to fudge the numbers around these sorts of things. There's a lie
every time you find a dead person in the ballot, because there's a two
hundred and three hundred living people who didn't vote, who voted, and that
dead person just got caught up in it and you busted them. There's all
these other these people are alive, but they didn't vote. That's how you
get those dead people voting. They don't go to the cemeteries finding dead people
and write them down. That's how you get caught. You go to Philadelphia.
I talked to a bunch of voters like you get there on the sell
you've already voted time I haven't. This stuff happens. But even with that,
with a historically unpopular Trump who completely mismanaged COVID, and a declining and
frightened economy, and with an historically popular Joe Biden grandfather you'ler untested president,
they all these things come together and the Democrats can barely eke it out.
Yeah, so now you've got resurgeon Trump. Most of what he said has
been born out is true. With incredibly weak Joe Biden. I think that
it's a good message to kind of for them to say, we need to
win, but we but you need to win by so much that these little
fudges around the margins and this and that, these rounding errors don't have the
impact. And Trump doesn't have the option of not talking about the lawfair.
You know, in a perfect world that a political scientist strategist would create a
political science strategist or strategists scientists would create in a lab. You know,
Donald Trump wouldn't have to talk about the lawfair because you know it never had
happened. Like if you could create as a Trump support of perfect conditions electorally.
But these trials are playing out over the course of election year, and
they are going to be front and center because that's the crutch that Democrats are
working really hard to lean on and to make again front and center. Even
though I don't think that's a great strategy, it does leave Trump without the
option of just ignoring all of it. And I would say the best way
to win over independence on it is to own it, to be like just
full, like, don't worry about going to don't be timid about it,
don't worry about cash. You just have to like this is rigged. They're
they're rigging it. They're filing law fair cases that they would never file against
Hillary Clinton or whomever. Don't get bogged out in twenty twenty reliving that stuff.
Talk about what they're doing right now. Great, more than enough ammunition
right now. And Laura Trump in her interview with NBC in fact, when
when she was asked about twenty twenty, she said that's in the past,
that's in the past. She like repeated it twice. And so maybe that
is the strategy. I mean, I don't know, like they're it's it's
a frustrating like yeah, no, he can't he But at the same time,
I don't know that that's necessarily bad on the question of law fair because
you have to dive into that one head first and be really bold about it,
because otherwise people are going to be like, well, maybe he is
guilty. Yeah, you do. I think if these lawsuits had dropped in
the middle of summer, as opposed to six months ago, and they hadn't
sort of the collapse yet, people would just assume guild, Yeah, that's
true. The collapse has been pretty brutal. Yeah, they came too early,
and they didn't they didn't deliver, and the common the The other part
of that is potentially people are just they don't vote for Trump, or they
don't vote or they vote for Biden. Another problem with us because they're so
sick of hearing the damn lawsuits and they feel like it's something that's bogging the
country down, and they do care about the economy. I think Trump is
generally pretty smart about talking about the economy, talking about issues, whether it
is the economy or firm policy or trade whatever it is. In ways,
when Hillar Clinton was off talking about like Latin X trans rights on Broad City,
I think Trump is generally pretty good about that. To begin with,
That's something I think he understands better than a lot of people who are caught
up in the weird like Twitter, culture ward. Not that he isn't,
but I think if you listen to his rallies, he's pretty good about keeping
that front and center, better than politicians on the left and the right.
But I think there's also there's that factor. This is another catch twenty two
twenty two for Trump and Republicans that people are just they feel like he was
the one that raised the temperature in the country, which I think is maybe
only half true, because he was responding to other people that already want to
respond to give them friction. He responded with a punch. The reason why
he was fighting with major League Baseball, in kids, television networks in Hollywood
and Europe is because all these different places were taking take taking right. They
were the culture war was Rich McConnell's a fool about this. It's it's not
an offensive from the right, it's the left is in the trenches. It's
a completely defensive battle. Trump could just sit there and the attacks from ESPN
and Disney would come in. We get to punch back. Yeah, I
mean Obama raised the temperature significantly, and Trump responded not by trying to cool
things down but with a punch. You know, the Republican candidates were trying
to cool things down and act like the Obama presidency was just an aberration,
and it wasn't because that approach had infiltrated culture and business. And that's another
thing the left, it's it's their crutches. Do you remember he ended his
White House years getting screamed at by illegal immigrants in his own White House.
How did this to get into that White House? I'm not, I'm like
hardly a big like Trump fan. But one of the things here is,
like Trump's opponents, I keep on forgetting you're such a Trump sissy. He
is, I con miss you with the flight ninety three zero. But then
you maybe it's stinked back. Who's to say? It's did you vote for
Kanye? Yeah? I vote for Kanye? Well did you not vote for
Kanye? Do you? Are you racist? No? Are you kidding me?
I've been I've been so determined I did not for racist. I love
Kanye. I've been I mean Kanye loves Kanye. Yes, I've been so
determined to just be on the list of like the Democrats list for people to
round up that I voted early for Trump both times in DC, and I
walked around with my I voted sticker and people were like like, here's like
thank you, and I'm like, you're welcome idea. I'm like, yeah,
thank you for voting. Thank you, You're welcome. Those pin eared
breeces are continuously like allowing the Democratic Party to or asking the Democratic Party like
smuggle this radical agenda into like this into all of our institutions and our culture
by just leaning on the anti Trump STU constantly like just to be like Trump
is so crazy. Trump is so crazy, and but like you just keep
voting for us because Trump is so crazy. And then what happens is,
you know, Biden comes back into office and does crazy stuff with the administrative
state on all these issues. Is about to make a decision on the title
nine Things, which is going to thrust college campuses back into kangaroo courts.
It's going to do all kinds of crazy stuff. So job well done.
Everyone seems like we're all on the right. It's like what Dave Chappelle said
about in his last skit on OJ Simpson. He's like, I don't think
he did it. Even if he did do it, I mean, you
know what I mean about Trump right now? And OJ read that book,
Remember that was like, if I find it, I would have done it
very differently. All right, anything else you want to add about OJ?
Joe Biden? Cream Jumpierre, Let's go get a beer. Okay, I'm
stealing coffee made right now, Christopher Bedford, I woke up earlier than you.
Yeah, I believe that. Well, no, not today. I
had a morning show. All right, you've been listening to another edition of
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