WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:05.719 Dreamy Live. I mean my heart radio whip. This is High on the 2 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:13.160 Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacob Salez on Fox Sports Sport ten fifty. Hey, 3 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:15.640 welcome back joining the ball, you know, Fox Sports fourteen fifty on 4 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:21.440 Steve Rivera, he's Jacobs allis now. We hope that Jay has some splode 5 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:27.320 this High on the Ball breaking Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. One of the thing 6 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:31.559 that's breaking is I can't get Dank ESPN to sign on onto my iPads. 7 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:35.759 I can get the PGA tournament on. They're still playing, uh in Rochester, 8 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:39.840 New York Press and Shamble still has a one stroke lead over the field. 9 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:44.240 A Scottie Cheffler stroke behind Adam Scott. It looks like he's still playing. 10 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:47.240 He's a stroke back. Keegan Bradley's up there, and I don't know 11 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:51.359 where my guy Xander Shotly is. Anyways, it looks like some big news 12 00:00:51.359 --> 00:01:00.079 has come out of California um gatee Feldman UH posting that the National Labor Relations 13 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:07.200 Board Region in California has issued a formal complaint against USC, the PAC twelve, 14 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:11.799 and the NC double A. The complaint alleges that the college that college 15 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:22.040 athletes quote have been and are employees within the meaning of what the NLRB calls 16 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:29.000 employees. So they've been misclassified as non employee student athletes, says the Again, 17 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:32.439 this is against USC, but it's also then the pactwov ncuble A says 18 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:38.480 that the three have been interfering with restraining and coercing employees in the exercise of 19 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.599 the rights guaranteed in the National Labor Relations Act, and that USC must file 20 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:49.159 an answer to the complaint by June one. Let's basically, it's one more 21 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:53.159 thing. The complaint seeks in order requiring USC at alban In, PACTOV and 22 00:01:53.280 --> 00:02:00.120 NABA to cease and desist from misclassifying the athletes as non employee student athletes and 23 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:06.280 to reclassify them as employees of the universes. That sounds like a big deal. 24 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:13.120 I you know, one of the queen things I wanted to ask Dave 25 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.599 now that you say that is the thing that when we talked about yesterday was 26 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:22.759 the geist comment about it doesn't it's a football and basketball When you have him, 27 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:25.199 guys like him, who are you know? Father could have some more? 28 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:30.759 What's the little Oliver could have some more? Give me some more? 29 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:35.199 Yeah, we'll see we'll see. Okay, but this sounds like a big 30 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:38.680 deal because that's that's one thing that that people have been going back and forth 31 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:42.599 on is that, you know, should should the NC double A just say 32 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:45.120 okay, you guys are athletes. But I think one of the other things 33 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:49.000 has been that I don't think that that they want to be stupid, that 34 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.840 they want to be athletes because they're gonna say, okay, well you're gonna 35 00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:58.080 get paid X. But what about the quarterback who can make six figures right 36 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:00.080 right? That's you know, the universe first Sea's not going to pay him 37 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:04.479 that. No, they can't. They've already paid them or they're paying them 38 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.039 six thousand dollars or five for whatever it is, yeah a year, uh 39 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:09.759 year. And then maybe it's something that's says, okay, your your classifying 40 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:15.360 them as as as employees and therefore and now what there's what's been their scholarship 41 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:21.759 money is going to get taxed. I mean, it's interesting interesting to see 42 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:27.199 who's who's going to benefit from this, if anybody, right, I don't 43 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:29.159 know, and I don't know if when we have when we get Johnna, 44 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:34.560 well ron, if you'll have some some in some insight, to this, 45 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:38.400 UH, you know, because he's obviously been keeping keeping taps on the on 46 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:44.159 the uh UM pack twelve deals. All right, UM Pima Pema baseball. 47 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:47.800 In the first round of their uh their district tournament, they had a seven 48 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:53.319 to two lead going to the ninth inning against UH. No, did he 49 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:58.000 go under the eighth inning against UM? What's the name of the team that 50 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:03.520 they're playing? I forget anyway, UM, the game got tied in the 51 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:09.840 eighth UH the Nebraska team, UM, I think it the Nebraska team took 52 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:12.639 the lead in the top of the nine, Pema tied it. Now they're 53 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:16.160 going they're in the tenth inning, so they did. They scored a run 54 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.680 in the bottom of the ninth UH to tie the game. So they're still 55 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:23.519 they're still in it. But you know, they had a seven to lead. 56 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:26.959 He can't blow a lead like that. No, So that's a that's 57 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:30.839 a tough goal. UM. Kind of a little a little bit of news. 58 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:35.680 Mitch Dubisky, who was beat up all that time in uh UH in 59 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:40.560 Chicago, he's gotten a two year extension on his deal with the Steelers, 60 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:44.759 so he's he's he'll have he's not he'll not be under contract for three years 61 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.600 with the Steelers. Again, another one of those guys just good enough to 62 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:54.759 you know, keep getting a job, keep hanging around, keep um uh 63 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:57.759 you know, keep burning a paycheck. Good for him because you know you 64 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.800 never knew, uh what what he he was gonna. How long do you 65 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.279 look around in the league? Do you speak about a quarterback down? It 66 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:08.480 reminds me of of Nick Foles who got released a while back. Do you 67 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:12.199 think he mentally he's done? I think so. He nixt got some miles 68 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.920 too. He's in his thirties and who's gonna who's gonna pay a back up? 69 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:20.040 Back up? Right? He's been making but he's been making exactly exactly. 70 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:23.120 I mean, he's look, he's made a lot of money. He'll 71 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:26.480 be fine, he'll uh, you know, he'll go the one. Maybe 72 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:28.639 he'll come and be on our show now because we could never get him on 73 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:31.120 her show when he was playing somebody, somebody out to reach out to him 74 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:34.879 and Tom go on this guy's show. These guys are good. Um. 75 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:41.399 We've mentioned the women's golf team starts the NC doable as tomorrow. They are 76 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:45.600 in Scottsdale, so sort of not a home court, but sort of you 77 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:47.519 know, they don't have to travel far of course that they've played, you 78 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:51.480 know before. Ye, so they're uh, they've got their turn their national 79 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:56.000 tournament. One of thirty teams in the tournament. I think they've mentioned starting 80 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.800 tomorrow up in Scottsdale. Good for them. You see, an eighteen year 81 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:04.360 old hacked into a into a fantasy camp with you know, a sports book 82 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:11.000 and is now being charged pretty heavily. WHOA, I don't know which one 83 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:14.959 it is. It doesn't say which one it is. Uh, he cyber 84 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:18.879 attacked on a fantasy sports and bedding site this past fall that impacted approximately sixty 85 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:24.800 thousand accounts. We might want to check our accounts. I do check my 86 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:29.480 account. I know exactly how much, and it's not very much. The 87 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.240 indictment did not identify the betting site, but DraftKings later released a statement saying 88 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:41.959 it worked with law enforcement in the investigation. Okay, okay, so we'll 89 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:46.399 see more about Well, did you say that somebody hacked into the scoreboard at 90 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:50.240 the Rangers stadium, the big baseball the big one. Yeah, the big 91 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:56.600 screen videos. They were just putting stuff, They putting logos, they put 92 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:01.839 they put the devil or the Ray logos and you're putting pictures and I don't 93 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:04.639 know, I just saw a couple of a couple of screenshots of it, 94 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:10.000 but it was clearly what was on the scoreboard clearly was not what was supposed 95 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.360 to be there. Oh okay, And so you saw one of them. 96 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:14.920 I think it was a Diamondbacks yestory one of the pictures or they were playing 97 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:16.560 catch in the back and the oh he had a bird. The bird again. 98 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:21.000 Yeah, the Randy Johnson was the funny thing. Somebody tweeted out if 99 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:25.800 he had a nickel for every time a Diamondbacks pitchers as he had a bird, 100 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:28.839 you'd have two nickels. But they came, they came hit those rings 101 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:31.439 zone well, and it was their best pictures. That Gallant, who happens 102 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.879 to be one of my fantasy pictures. Oh yeah, this one was different 103 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:38.920 from the one ring Randy Johnson was throwing a pitch, but it was that 104 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:42.879 Gallant was just playing catch out of the outfield. Was somebody I saw the 105 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:45.519 video the bird flu into it was the funny thing. You gotta have your 106 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:46.920 head on a swivel. The funny thing about it. We live in the 107 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:51.199 day and age you're gonna get filmed no matter what. Two dudes playing catch, 108 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:55.360 right, two dudes playing catch and oh, oh, by the way, 109 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.319 he hit a bird. Ye come yeah, somebody in the seats was 110 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:01.360 out there shooting video because they were close enough too, and then boom, 111 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:09.639 you're out on social media. They can they can see. I don't know 112 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:11.439 if I didn't see if did he kill the bird? I think so? 113 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:13.639 I think yeah. I think the guy just looked at the bird on the 114 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:18.680 floor and said, you know, bumber, you better pick a better flight, 115 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.079 pat your hit on a swivel. Man, you gotta have your hit 116 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:24.519 on a swivel or fly higher or well yeah, I mean, what's it? 117 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:28.839 Yeah, there's that too. I mean you just gotta you gotta know 118 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.360 you're surrounding. Did you see it? So? So I was out last 119 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.440 I watching the game, and the heat is the heat right there, they're 120 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:39.279 gonna they're they're very good. Two three stars and seven undrafted, seven undrafted 121 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:43.120 players, and that play, yeah, yeah, that play tells you how 122 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.960 good you have to be or not be, whatever where you want to go 123 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.960 with this. Um, you don't have to be drafted as long as you 124 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:52.360 can play. As long as you can play. I mean again, you 125 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:54.679 know, we saw a Lonzo Treer hang around for a little bit. Gabe 126 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.120 York is still hanging around. Um, you know some guys like that. 127 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.600 I mean, yeah, you know, Arizona has had some top draft picks, 128 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:03.720 but you know how long is Solomon Hill? In fact, in fact, 129 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:07.799 there was a there was a tweet a couple days ago. Uh. 130 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.240 You know one of our things that we quote about college of NBA, the 131 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:16.759 most active college players from the school, Kentucky had like twenty seven. Arizona 132 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:18.879 was tied for second with twelve. Yeah, and I don't even know if 133 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:22.200 that's true. I don't know if that's true unless they they're talking maybe the 134 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.759 G League or whatever league that is now in G League, because there aren't 135 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:33.200 twelve. I don't think can you go twelve from Sean's time. There's only 136 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:37.159 a couple from from I couldn't think of them. No, Matherin, you 137 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:46.440 have Gordon now, um t j uh tj Lowry marking in h Um. 138 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.720 I mean, let's count them just because Okay, okay, now, okay, 139 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:56.799 here we go. How are you go after that? Oh? Deandredre 140 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:01.279 we Ford about him? Seven? He was only No. One seven. 141 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:03.039 That's about seven that I can. I am sure we were missing some, 142 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:09.200 but they had twelve. I'm thinking twelve really? Oh oh, Andrea Guardal 143 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:11.840 he's retired, Yeah, he's but he was on the list of last of 144 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:18.000 the Yeah, what's you're Let me ask you this, and you may have 145 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.720 a different one than me, uh, because I covered him. I covered 146 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:26.840 Andre for forever. Uh in the two years. What's your lasting memory of 147 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:31.519 Andre when he played here? Being on the phone in the funnel? Exactly 148 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:35.440 my same one, exactly, my same one. They lost the tournament, 149 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:39.159 and then they go back to in the tournament and they lose the seating hall. 150 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:43.080 That's my lasting memory of And then after the fact they came back from 151 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:48.039 that, they came back from that event of the tournaments in seating Hall. 152 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:50.120 I think it was in a in a dwagle of a game, and he 153 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:54.080 had yet to determine whether he was gonna go or announced that he was gonna 154 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.799 go to the NBA. So they had lane for the game at the time. 155 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:00.600 He's played in that and we as reporters have to go, you know, 156 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:03.279 follow that game. So he played in it. I was chasing him 157 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:05.200 down to say, could you tell us if you're gonna leave or no, 158 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.759 he ran away and he chay ran away. I couldn't get him on the 159 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:11.639 record or anything like that. Eventually went into a restroom and in look at 160 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:16.080 the girl like the women's locker room, and he waited for me to to 161 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:18.440 leave so he wouldn't have to answer the question, I don't you know? 162 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:24.279 Look on you know Andreadala had a great career and Arizona claimed him as being 163 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:28.039 an Arizona guy in the NBA YadA YadA, YadA one. I never saw 164 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:31.720 him as an Arizona guy similar to DeAndre Ayton and something. The first round 165 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:37.279 you know he was. He was here for one thing, um, and 166 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:41.159 then the sting on the phone right before an NC Double A tournament game, 167 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:46.360 Um, all that stuff he left me with a bad taste about him as 168 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.679 an Arizona guy. Smart dude, a great career. But that's I wanted 169 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.840 to ask you and see if you remember that, and you and you did 170 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:58.559 obviously yeah with the phone, No, I absolutely did. And then that 171 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:03.879 that bothered me again. It gets to it gets to the thing of why 172 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.519 are you here right If you're gonna and I get the one and done thing, 173 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.519 but if you're gonna go to school at least give it all you have 174 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.639 for a year, right and for more than moving up, you know, 175 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:18.159 improving your drafts. One of the things that I saw on Facebook because of 176 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.360 the n IL deal and who's gonna pay for that? And we kind of 177 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.840 talk about the Arizonassists program and after being part of it, you know, 178 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:30.480 Joe Schmoe or meet you whatever, and they're saying, well, what about 179 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:33.440 all the guys that came through here and made a lot of money. How 180 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:35.240 come they're not helping? Or are they? Or are they helping? They're 181 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:39.440 they're mostly not They're not, of course not right. You know, guys 182 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:43.440 like Richard Jeffersoniel built the gym curse putting some money. I think Mike Bibbies 183 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:48.919 put into a little bit of money, you know, but they that all 184 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:54.000 the way back to twenty years ago. You know, that was a question 185 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.120 that I had said, why aren't these guys who were making millions and millions 186 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:01.639 and millions of dollars and who got there because of a where where are they 187 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:05.559 when it comes I'm wondering, I'm wondering if the reason is one of the 188 00:13:05.559 --> 00:13:09.480 reasons is Sean who was not one of those guys that about him in you 189 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:13.240 know what I'm saying, he's not the jet guy, right, It was 190 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.600 not a there was a little disconnect, you know that. I'm wondering if 191 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:20.000 that's part of it. Did they let they let me out high and dry? 192 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.000 And yeah, I don't know. I've always wondered that why they're you 193 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.639 know some of the some of those athletes haven't been you know, bigger donors 194 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:31.759 over time, Uh, like the Jim Furi in golf or one, right, 195 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:33.840 yeah, and and some you know, and some of those I think 196 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:37.480 Furich has done some stuff for golf. Yeah, but like you know, 197 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:41.000 what's Gronk done? I don't know, right, Yeah, I don't know. 198 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.480 You know what is his neck foles done? H he probably he might 199 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.480 has. Yeah, Yeah, we'd have to ask and could they tell what 200 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:52.120 if Gilbert Arenas? Yeah? Right, probably not much? Right, gives 201 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.480 them grief about that? Yeah, you know, so you wonder when you 202 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:01.320 know they're when we're getting pinched for you know, one hundred bucks a month 203 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:05.320 or whatever that they want. Yeah, so no, absolutely, Okay, 204 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.159 all right, um, let's go take our breakwhere to have John Wilner on 205 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.519 the show here just a second. We'll get into all the pac twelve stuff. 206 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:15.879 Um, he again always follows it closer we go to him. We 207 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:18.519 thought all this was going to be done by now, and it's not. 208 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:26.639 Dylan Terry Coloco. That's maybe nine. Yeah, maybe that number is okay. 209 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:39.799 We'll be right back with John Wilder hang around. 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And now on the phone, we have John Wilner 259 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.920 from the PAC twelve hotline. John, how are you doing? I'm good? 260 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.519 Thanks? How you guys fine? As the author of As the PAC 261 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:48.160 twelve goes or turns? What episode are we in now? I mean it 262 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:55.119 feels like we're in kind of a rerun situation waiting, you know, for 263 00:18:55.279 --> 00:19:00.759 this be if you ab to get done and I'm I'm guessing that and it's 264 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:04.039 just a guest that you know, buy maybe the second half of June seems 265 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:07.720 like an interesting time for them to get it done to me, just because 266 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.559 of that, June's aren't even deadline for it's looming out there for San Diego 267 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:17.319 State, But we'll see. Will you say at this point that San Diego 268 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:22.440 State is a is a done deal or not? No, I wouldn't say 269 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:26.799 then deal, but it sure seems pretty pretty likely. I mean, you 270 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:33.279 can't you can't ever underestimate the patwal president's ability to do something they probably shouldn't. 271 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.960 But uh, I do I think that they're going to invite Saego State? 272 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.039 How can you not? Right? I mean, they just went to 273 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:44.279 the National Chimpership Game. In addition to all the things that they have going 274 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:48.440 for them and have had going for them since the last summer, they just 275 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.000 went to the National Chimpionship Game. And you're gonna say, I, no, 276 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:53.440 thanks, You know, I didn't know if that doesn't make sense to 277 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:57.480 me? Right? Right? So? So what, okay, tell me 278 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:00.440 what we're waiting on. Because you've you've talked before, you know, last 279 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:03.599 time you're on the show, you talk about they're trying to land three planes 280 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:07.319 at the same time. Right, the granted rights, the TV deal and 281 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:12.119 the expansion. I mean, what had those planes just been in a holding 282 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:18.079 pattern since then or what? Well? I think the media lites, the 283 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:22.200 media lites has got to be done first, and then you go to the 284 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.599 president and you're saying, here's the deal on the on the table, are 285 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:33.039 you willing to sign you your money over to the converence and then wants to 286 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:37.480 do that comes expansion. I think that it's not going to be the three 287 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:41.119 planes landing at the same time, but it's going to probably be like one 288 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:45.640 after another. It's very rapid fire succession probably how it's going to go. 289 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:49.759 And obviously the hold up has been a media lites deal. If they had 290 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:53.559 a great deal, they would have already taken it. But just because they 291 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:56.480 don't have a great deal doesn't mean they have it. Don't have a deal 292 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:03.440 that is going to be satisfactory it shot. It seems like economic conditions have 293 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:08.119 played a role in the delay, based on what Washington States President said. 294 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:11.519 I don't know that that's the only reason. My guess is it's not the 295 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:15.759 only reason, but that can't need to cut of it. I think so 296 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.279 having covered this for since you or twelve, it seems like because it's lasted 297 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:25.839 that long, is there realistically a chance or good chance they get they will 298 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:27.720 get a good media deal and I mean good as in, you know, 299 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:34.000 worthwhile, because we've talked about this for like almost a year now. Well, 300 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:37.920 it kind of depends on what do you mean by good exactly exactly what 301 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:44.319 components are there right now? There's a lot of emphasis on the funny, 302 00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:48.920 and obviously that's a huge piece of it, and there's a lot of emphasis 303 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:53.160 on the visibility, the access. What networks are they going to be on? 304 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:57.400 Are the premium football games gonna be on line or television, you know, 305 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:02.880 broadcast or cave or the big game is going to be on streaming. 306 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:07.240 That's a big part of it. I think that one piece that's been overlooked 307 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:15.920 a little bit is the logistics of the selection points. Right Fans they're very 308 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:19.559 frustrated with that six day selection window and with all the night games, and 309 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:23.119 so those are pieces that are they're trying to deal with as well. And 310 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:27.680 the presidents here from their constituents, I don't like being I don't like finding 311 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:33.000 out on Sunday what time the game is going to be on the following Saturday. 312 00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:36.400 So there's a whole lot of pieces that they're trying to work out, 313 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:41.599 and you know, not the money is probably the most important, but it's 314 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:47.920 not the only thing to me as a fan is that a TV deal for 315 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:52.559 the PAC twelve has to be kind of centered on ESPN. And I don't 316 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:56.720 know what the possibility is of that. Well, I mean, I'm pretty 317 00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:59.960 sure ESPN is going to have a big part of it. I would be 318 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:04.240 I would be shocked if there is not a package of games on ESPN. 319 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:11.359 And how much right now ESPN has I think it's twenty two out of basically 320 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:17.960 eighty games. Twenty two on ESPN, there's twenty two on Fox. The 321 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:22.279 forty fifth is alternated as the championship game. It alternates between the two. 322 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:27.359 There's another thirty five. They're on the patrol of networks, so you wouldn't 323 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:32.799 say they expand and add two teams, so they have basically the same number 324 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:37.799 of home games eighty. Is ESPN gonna have twenty two out of the eighty 325 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:42.000 Nope, it's probably gonna be somewhere around there, and I have to think 326 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:45.240 it's going to be some of the biggest games too. That's you know, 327 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:49.799 part of it is figuring out the tiers and the packages and make you chart 328 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:55.920 that each network partner hears what they want at the right price. But I 329 00:23:55.960 --> 00:24:00.799 would be shocked if ESPN doesn't have you know, I don't know, Jackie 330 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:06.160 how much it'll be, but you know, something like that. So you've 331 00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:07.440 been covering this a long time and I'm gonna kind of go with this as 332 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:11.119 a media guy. Now you've been covering this from probably day one. We 333 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.599 see other reports from all over the country from other guys that we know and 334 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:19.279 that you know, well how many and reports are varying, right, some 335 00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:25.200 denies, yes, maybe maybe deny this guy has it wrong. Um, 336 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:29.279 when you talk to these guys, can you sense that they're telling you the 337 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:34.440 truth for what they know today or just don't have any idea refruiting other stories. 338 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:41.000 It's just so convoluted to me. Well, it's convoluted partly because there's 339 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.079 very few people who actually know the details, right, I mean, the 340 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.920 athletic directors don't even know all the details. This is being handled by the 341 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:56.559 commissioner as consultants the negotiators for the networks, and they're briefing the presidents, 342 00:24:56.599 --> 00:25:00.480 but I don't get the sense of the persons know every detail as they come 343 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:04.119 up here, you know, on a week to week basis. The athlatic 344 00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:11.440 directors are even more detached. So and meanwhile, the college football media nationally 345 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:15.599 is heres to getting its information from the coaches and athletic directors and they don't 346 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:21.480 really know what's going on here. So that's part of the reason that there's 347 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:25.720 a lot of speculation and a lot of it is unfounded. You also have 348 00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:29.640 the Big ten, a Big twelve, you know, which is trying to 349 00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:37.599 destabilize the PAC twelve using its media consultant group endeavor to do that. And 350 00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:41.559 that's something that we've never really seen before in realignment, which is one conference 351 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:45.640 trying to destabilize a number like this, uh in a real concerted effort. 352 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.720 The PAC twelve has put itself in this position because it has taken so long, 353 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:55.440 because it's taken most of you now, so it's vulnerable to having something 354 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:59.599 like this happen. H So you know, that's to me, that's kind 355 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:06.240 of why the whole national narrative is playing out in a very uneven way where 356 00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:10.519 you don't know what's truth and which fiction. Very few people know what's going 357 00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:14.359 on. You have a party that's trying to deep stabilize, and you have 358 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:19.680 this incredible one way of time that it's taken to get a deal done. 359 00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:26.119 You mentioned a minute ago that the Commissioner George Kliavkoff and his consultants, how 360 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:29.000 is this getting done at the PAC twelve level? You know, I mean, 361 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:32.200 what's the what's their problem? Mean, who's sitting at the table and 362 00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:36.599 who's doing the day to day work on getting this on getting this deal worked? 363 00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:41.359 One? I mean it's the two of them, I think Clikoff and 364 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:47.759 you know he's got Doug Perlman who runs Sports Media Advisors. He may heard 365 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:52.640 a couple of Lucanson's working for him. I know Jamie Zaninovich, the deputy 366 00:26:52.720 --> 00:27:00.079 who was the Deputy Commissioner until about a month ago as a full time He 367 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:04.240 is now working for a consulting agency, but he is advising the PACK twelve. 368 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.000 He started a degree. Uh and I know that you know the PAC 369 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:15.680 twelf has got the way they weren't chart to set up. There's an Executive 370 00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:21.079 Committee of the Presidents. It's three presidents on a rotating basis, and right 371 00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:25.160 now at Stanford, Washington, Worshton State, they are I think, pretty 372 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:29.720 clued in as to what's going on, and then they are disseminating information among 373 00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.440 the other presidents. But it's really a very small group of people, which 374 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.880 is why there have been no leaks of real information. Uh, they've been 375 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:45.640 very impressive and avoiding leaks, but in the vacuuming all this rumor and speculation. 376 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.039 All right, so you said a minute ago, because of this this 377 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:56.480 deadline with with San Diego stating to explain to listeners, State doesn't once we 378 00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.200 get passed through thirty at the end of the fiscal years year as soon as 379 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:07.039 the student notifies the Mountain West that they're leaving in the twenty twenty four fiscal 380 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.200 year. If they notify them within that year, they have to pay more 381 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:14.400 of the penalty. I think the penalty like doubles. You know, it 382 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:18.079 goes up from like fifteen or eighteen million up into I think the high twenties 383 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.799 or thirty millions. If San Diego State unifies the Mountain West after June thirtieth, 384 00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:26.400 I don't know the exact numbers off the top of my head, right 385 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:32.240 basically what we're looking at, and it could that exit fee could be negotiated 386 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.759 down. I don't think Santego State worst. They in a position one it's 387 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:40.480 got to do that. I think the state warrants this done by June thirtieth. 388 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:45.559 I guess is that it will be done by June thirtieth. In some 389 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.440 fashion. We may not know that it's done, but I think it's some 390 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:52.920 level it's probably going to get done by the end of this fiscal year. 391 00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:57.599 Okay, let's assume the San Diego State is in the PAC twelve. Maybe 392 00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:03.119 there's maybe there's a twelve team. Based on based on what you know, 393 00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.960 I think we ask you this every time, based on what you know today, 394 00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.400 What can you predict? What predict what you think is gonna where we're 395 00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:17.359 gonna end up. Well, I think they're gonna end up with a deal. 396 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:21.359 I think they're gonna end up adding. I mean, if I were 397 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.440 if I were betting, I don't think any of this is guaranteed. But 398 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.119 if I were betting, I bet that they were. Uh, and you 399 00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:33.880 know me, I was better too. Cocklais line. So Stantego State were 400 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:45.200 added. They sign a media deal that is probably linear, which means pecaster 401 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:49.000 cable and sixty percent streaming. I don't know who the stream is gonna be, 402 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:55.799 Amazon, Apple, somebody else writing. I mean that Pocock, the 403 00:29:55.880 --> 00:30:00.960 NBC streaming service, got an NFL playoff game extrusively, I kind of raised 404 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.880 an eyebrow for me. Um. And then the money is going to be 405 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:10.599 somewhere near where the State twelve is probably within ten percent in a way. 406 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:15.920 So twenty eight million per school up to thirty four million per schools that range 407 00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.880 into something that's that would be my guest. You know, I really don't 408 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:23.200 know. Yeah, no, wait, well we don't, but um, 409 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:26.200 you know, we can guess. I mean, we thought we knew who 410 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.079 was going to win the Kentucky Derby, and our horses came in last, 411 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:30.480 so you know, you just don't know what's going to happen well as I 412 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:37.799 would have expected, but we like you. We've been on weener dogs at 413 00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:42.920 halftime of Arizona basketball game. So there's that and kids bowling. I think 414 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.960 you were there for that. Maybe not anyway, so okay, well you 415 00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:51.720 know again, it's just I know that you know, we can. We're 416 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:55.000 continuing to speculate, and every time we get you on the phone, we're 417 00:30:55.359 --> 00:31:00.079 speculating some more. But uh, I mean, it's is there anything that 418 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:04.680 you feel is pretty certain that I mean, are you certain that the PAC 419 00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.720 twelve is going to stay together? Let me put it that, Let me 420 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.160 ask you that. No, I'm not. I haven't been certain now all 421 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.880 along, and I think the odds of that stay together are lower than they 422 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:21.279 were, you know, three months ago or six months ago. You know, 423 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:23.000 the longer this takes, the more chane that there's going to be some 424 00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:29.160 kind of unknown factor that comes in and disrupts. I've got the survival as 425 00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:33.559 like a four point favorite over extinction. It was as high as five and 426 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.319 a half, five and a half fourt favorite. It dropped down to, 427 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.960 uh, you know, I'm just kind of doing this because I think it 428 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:45.559 helps fans get an they can envision what the situation is better by using their 429 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.759 points. But so dropped down to like three and a half at the end 430 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.279 of Mars, and it's up to four now. And a big part of 431 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.759 that is because two of the persons, Arizona's president in Colorado's chancellor have both 432 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.319 said they're willing to be patient and wait for this thing to play out, 433 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:04.079 and as long as the persons still mechanic, I think the conference has got 434 00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.480 a better chance to stay together. So we'll see. But I definitely do 435 00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:12.400 not think it's guaranteed. I never have thought that. I think it's more 436 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.880 likely that it will stay together, but it is not guaranteed until they signed 437 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.759 that. Garana wrights are so so John, You've been covering a lot of 438 00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:24.400 different stories throughout your career coaching searches. In addition to this, Where does 439 00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:30.319 this rank? This story, this entire story rank and all the I don't 440 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:31.319 know if I want. I don't want to say fun because it's not fun, 441 00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:35.960 but just kind of like a just tedious, just the research and just 442 00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.480 waiting for calls and things like that. Where does this rank among them? 443 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:42.079 If I were gonna, well, if I were going to rank like the 444 00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:49.960 top ten stories, this would be one through ten. It is. The 445 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:54.400 stakes are very high. I mean talking about a hundred sub mural conference that 446 00:32:54.519 --> 00:33:00.160 has been the basting of college sports on the West Coast and it's fighting for 447 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:05.519 survival after the usc UCLA decision. Uh, you know, there's a lot 448 00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.680 at stake for a lot of athletes and a lot of sports. There was 449 00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:13.359 a lot of stake for fans of those schools and a one nine of those 450 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:17.359 schools. Uh, this is you know, by far, I think that, 451 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:22.759 you know, the most significant story I've covered for sure, Uh most 452 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:27.880 tdous as well. I never expected back in July that it was going to 453 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:31.480 still be going here right as we almost are in Susent right. Well, 454 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:37.039 I lost a bet to Steve that this thing would get done by August. 455 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:42.880 By the by the end of August of last year, that was a bad 456 00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:49.240 beat at the time. I did say it at the time because they were 457 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:54.480 locked in a ninety day window with ESPN Fox, and Fox wasn't going to 458 00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:59.200 give them a decent bid, So there was almost no chance that they were 459 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.359 going to get this on the those coast ninety days. Every war is one 460 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:06.440 before it actually fought. All right, Okay, I'm real quick. I 461 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:13.119 want to get your reaction to two words, Dion Sanders. I mean, 462 00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:17.320 he's he's making five or six million a year, He's already basically earned his 463 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:22.519 first year salary, and they hadn't even coach the game. Just you know, 464 00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.280 forget about whether they go seven and five or four and eight or whatever. 465 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:31.159 All of the attention he has brought to the University of Colorado, not 466 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:37.719 just the football program, but the school itself, has been an incredible amount 467 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:43.800 of marketing, uh for the university's brands. And that's that's what a you 468 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:45.760 know, a high profile football coach could. We could finally do a lot 469 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:51.760 for the USC. Deon's doing even more for Colorado just because Colorado was starting 470 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.800 at a low level. But regardless of whether they get to a bowl game 471 00:34:54.880 --> 00:35:00.039 this first year, he has done everything they could possibly earn, sort of 472 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:06.360 wasting the program's profile. All right, there you go. Thanks John, 473 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.159 Hey, John, thanks a bunch. Appreciate it as always. Well, 474 00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:12.239 you know, I hope you get a vacation. This is all done. 475 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:15.400 Yeah, I've got my vacation scheduled and I guarantee that's when they're going to 476 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:21.960 announce be of course, of course. Okay, John, Thanks thanks much. 477 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.760 Man. That's how it goes. That's how it work. I take 478 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:30.599 a shower real quick. Oh the call just game, That's exactly how it 479 00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:32.480 works. All right, let's take our last break. We're gonna come back. 480 00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.280 We'll take your calls. 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Hey, welcome back to 538 00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.719 I on Volcano Box Ports sporteen fifty. I'm Steve Vera Jakinsass So we have 539 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:54.079 about thirteen minutes for you guys to call five too. Oh or seventy four 540 00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:58.639 forty you'd love to hear from you. I got little breaking news, good 541 00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:05.599 breaking news. Baseball blue seven to two league got into extra innings. Uh, 542 00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:09.599 Andrew Stucky catcher out of cdo. It's a walk off home run in 543 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:15.079 the bottom of the tenth inning to beat McCook Community College in the first round 544 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.400 of the Double Ellina, the double Elimination District Tournament. It's a four team 545 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:23.280 tournament in Nebraska to get to the College World's Junior College World Series. So 546 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:28.000 they're in the winner in the winner's bracket with a win one, nine to 547 00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.440 eighty. And this is just for the West, right, this is the 548 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:37.760 West District. So um there eight district champions go to the Junior College World 549 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:39.960 Series. But you know, winning that first game in a double the Nation 550 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.960 tournament is a big deal. Yeah, they almost, they almost. I 551 00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.119 mean they were gagging it all over the place. I don't know what ken 552 00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.599 Hakami was doing with his with his hair or if he's got any left. 553 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:54.239 But pima wins um means that they don't have to play a double head or 554 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:59.280 tomorrow unless uh they lose. Wow, if they lose, but they're they're 555 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.760 in the winner's bracket it right now, so they play it at three o'clock 556 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:07.599 I think Central time. Uh, they're in Nebraska tomorrow again. They will 557 00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:12.039 play the winner of Southeast Community College in Salt Lake Community College. If they 558 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.239 win that, then that they're in the championship on Saturday. So good for 559 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.800 them. But Andrew Stuckey Catcher out of cdo we have a caller? Hang 560 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:23.880 on higher on the aar and on the ball. Hey guys, so I 561 00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:29.440 couldn't get the phone working yesterday? You throw it in the pool or what 562 00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.159 did you do? I'm also in mourning, but not just because my father 563 00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:35.880 in law died, of course, because of the son's loss. We know 564 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:39.760 that we were wondering about how we were wondering a bunch. But Denver's gonna 565 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:45.320 win. And I was really gonna hammer Jay, but Miami did be Boston. 566 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:50.639 Thank goodness for Jay's sake because when he made a statement, oh really 567 00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:52.519 one of these yeah, either one of those teams can win the East. 568 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.440 But there's only one team can win at all, Jay, not any one 569 00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.400 of the four and women, me and Steve know who's gonna win. It's 570 00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:06.159 gonna be It's gonna be Denver, period, all right, okay, And 571 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.400 but I'm gonna go against you, Steve. I'm gonna say Denver's gonna win 572 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:13.920 in five. I know you need six, but I'm gonna say they're gonna 573 00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.480 win in five. They're that I'm okay, I'm okay with that. But 574 00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:19.559 you said you need him to win in six, Well, no, I 575 00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.280 just gonna win. Well, he's got a separate bet on how many games, 576 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:28.400 but he's also got Denver winning that. Yea yeah. And I'm gonna 577 00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:32.320 go on a real long hiatus because Jay dropped the ball and said only one 578 00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:37.639 hundred more days till the first game, because I don't care about football. 579 00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.559 I'm gonna be I'm gonna I don't want to hear anything for one hundred days. 580 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:43.559 Hey, how or who do you want to be the next coach of 581 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:49.280 the Suns? How? Uh? That young guy, the guy they have 582 00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:52.199 in the bench might be okay, you know, other than myself, I 583 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:59.599 don't know how about Tyler. They're talking Tyler. Now, forget Tyler. 584 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.760 He's one and he's under contract for two years. They'd be giving up too 585 00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:07.519 much. So let me ask you. There was a good, good voting 586 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:12.000 thing with the radio in Phoenix. Who's going to be there in two years? 587 00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.840 Will DeAndre be there in two years? Will will Hopkins be there in 588 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:19.559 two years? Oh? Did you hear the guys were saying that, uh 589 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.519 WILLI DeAndre got Williams fired. That's what some people like to say, Oh, 590 00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:28.679 there's no Well maybe in the sense that they didn't have a good relationship 591 00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:32.320 immediately. I mean, DeAndre is not not going to you know, matt 592 00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.639 ishbie In saying I need you to fire him, But to say he got 593 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:42.480 in fired in the sense that that relationship was was crap and and that maybe 594 00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.440 they say, well, we got to make a change. Maybe here DeAndre 595 00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:51.719 here, here's what I'm gonna say you guys said, don't Dave Hk was 596 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:57.360 great saying the child environment, having a family, that's college. If you 597 00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.400 if you're like if you're like Michael Jordany Doune something in the NBA, then 598 00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:05.559 you can have your kid around. He's got a little one and a half, 599 00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:08.119 you'll playing around. He hasn't done anything in the NBA. DeAndre, 600 00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:10.760 Yeah, Hey, I don't know if you said it a bad word, 601 00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:15.800 but we cut you off. I don't think bad word you did. Kind 602 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:23.559 of didn heard it, said darn we're good, all right, that's all 603 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:30.159 right. We got the dump for three months because I don't want to hear 604 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:37.199 about the football program. You guys take care of right. We had to 605 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:40.199 dump him for a second. We did, we did? Have it worked? 606 00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:43.920 Yeah, well you'll have to go in there and chop it up. 607 00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:46.679 I don't know. He may not have it sounded like he did. Okay, 608 00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:51.000 cool, did you do that? We don't have another call right now? 609 00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:58.400 Okay, so we have money minutes you gets still calling. Man. 610 00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:00.559 You know, it's almost like it doesn't even matter who the coach is going 611 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:04.639 to be, right, I don't know if it's gonna be somebody that did 612 00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:07.639 you? Did you say the list of guys? Now you look at the 613 00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.079 list, it's not sexy. It's no, you don't hear you even know 614 00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:14.639 who they are. And they had a pretty good one, honestly. You 615 00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:16.880 know, they all get recycled and all that. They weren't the guys that 616 00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:20.920 they weren't the names that were used to that's for sure. Hey. In 617 00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.840 fact, if JB has been interviewed in Milwaukee, why would you be Why 618 00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:28.400 wouldn't you just bring him out here to see how you'll do? Right, 619 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:32.559 Honestly, I think maybe the entree plays for him. You know what I'm 620 00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:36.159 saying, it's hard for him, you know, Arizona guy. You know, 621 00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:38.639 it's all a little something, right, a big man something to add 622 00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:43.159 to the relationship. Yeah, Blair's a big guy. You know, maybe 623 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.960 he'll feel like he who knows. Yeah, let's let's get that petition. 624 00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:50.960 So something's gonna it could could happen, who knows. I do feel that 625 00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.079 JB's gonna get a head coaching job at some point, at some point, 626 00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:58.639 because he's got that personality. Um, and he's again been successful where he's 627 00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.159 been, and I know he got there the interview with Boston, but that 628 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:06.519 just seems like a bigger job than maybe a first time coach can step into. 629 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:10.480 That coach is in trouble. And Damien Damon Damon, who's now no 630 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:16.199 longer with Boston. He's a Boston but Milwaukee Milwaukee. Yeah I was green 631 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:21.639 uniform. That got confused. Uh, Damon's no longer with Boston now he's 632 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.400 into Georgia Tech, so he has some jobs in. Jason Terry is still 633 00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:29.639 coaching. I think he's in Utah still. Um, So all these guys 634 00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.440 have aspirations for being coaches, not that they would get that type of job. 635 00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.440 But Milwaukee is a big job. I mean there there's the number one 636 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.119 yeah seed in the in the in the in the NBA after winning the title 637 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:45.400 not too long ago, two years ago May. So we'll see. It's 638 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.960 it's a big boy sport, man, it is it is. And yeah, 639 00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:51.760 right, and if you're if you're afraid of that job, then you 640 00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:54.400 probably shouldn't be there anyway. So and I'm sure Joseph Blair's no, yeah, 641 00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.480 no, afraid of that. And I think he'll be eventually, at 642 00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:00.480 some point he'll be ready to do it. Yeah. Like I said, 643 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.960 he's come a long long way. Um, anything else, you still got 644 00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.639 about six minutes I'm watching I got the PGA on on my iPad. And 645 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:15.199 there's a guy, a player who's knee deep in a lake. Not at 646 00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:16.719 the lake. It's a who god, who is that? I mean, 647 00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:21.280 he's up to his waist in water. I don't know what he's doing. 648 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.719 He's got mud all over his arm and he fell, he fell in the 649 00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:27.840 water. This is awesome. That's gonna be all over. So the foot 650 00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:30.880 basketball game starts here about five thirty, right, right, uh, five 651 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:32.159 thirty, so we're good. That gives me enough time to get home. 652 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.320 Put something down on it. Step, Oh, don't do it. But 653 00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:37.800 if I take the Lakers, though, wouldn't that make you? Yeah? 654 00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:42.880 Yeah, please take the layers. So you're putting double double down, Baby, 655 00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:52.119 I'll sleep easier. Oh God, excuse me, you're putting me to 656 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.920 sleep, Steve, Okay, no, you you've had long days here, 657 00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:00.079 that old age of beers. So I've been seeing some really somebody, I 658 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.239 mean, you want to talk about digging for stats? Right? Okay, 659 00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:10.639 somebody did a stat that Michael Wiley led that he had most yards or most 660 00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.800 times that he wasn't touched before nine yards or something like that. And now 661 00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:22.639 there's another one. He's got the most yards per attempt when there have been 662 00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:30.280 seven defenders in the box, and he's got eight point zero average in that 663 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:36.519 situation. He leads, he leaves, Oh, he leads a pack twelve. 664 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:38.639 Okay. I think Michael Wile is gonna have a really good year. 665 00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:42.960 You know, he's he's really good. I think the whole office is gonna 666 00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.400 have a good year. I hope that Delora can kind of move past what's 667 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:49.079 happening with him, and you know that's gonna be a heavy burden, There's 668 00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.559 no question about it, don't you think on the road even at home again 669 00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:55.599 again, they just got to get some stuff out of the way in the 670 00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:59.639 preseason, right, get it, get at the hill out of the way, 671 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.039 and maybe maybe you wait, you know what we've been talking about, 672 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:06.000 address it and get done with it. Maybe they do it at the start 673 00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.119 of camp, say this is it the last time we're talking about it, 674 00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:13.199 because by that time maybe some of some stuff has died down or whatever. 675 00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:15.639 But I do think they I do think he is going to need to address 676 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:19.800 that, and whether he wants to or not, because he's gonna get asked 677 00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:22.360 and then he's gonna get asked out of the place. But if he does 678 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:25.119 it preseason and says, this is the last time I'm talking about it, 679 00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:29.840 and you know, when he goes to someone's school and somebody brings up and 680 00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:31.559 say, I addressed at the beginning of the day, I'm not talking about 681 00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:35.320 it anymore. You can do that, yeah, and that and that's what 682 00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:37.159 that would that doing something like that would do. And if I was this 683 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:43.320 pr advisor, if I was the departments a pr advisor, I would advise 684 00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:45.760 it they do something like yeah, and it's probably not even up to them 685 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.840 anymore. It's probably up to the school. Yeah, and you know almost 686 00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:52.039 you're almost say if you do it. Kind of in the summertime, things 687 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.079 are kind of dead, nobody's around, nobody's talking football much. You'd say, 688 00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:59.119 hey, we're gonna old the press confers of Jade Delora would all show 689 00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:01.440 up, we talk about it for a day or two, and then it'd 690 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:07.039 be goodnn, it's over right gone. So we have a called one. 691 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.119 Let's go all right, Hi, you're on the ron on the ball. 692 00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.280 Hey, guys, love your show. Steve, you had the right sense 693 00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:22.039 to try to cut that guy off. I did it went through everybody? 694 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:27.320 Did it go through? Did you hear it? You didn't cut it off? 695 00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:30.679 No, we got to go through the through the have to. I'll 696 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.239 have to peel it out of the well. Thanks for calling and let us 697 00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.599 know who's this? Who's this? I do love your show? Thank you? 698 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:42.320 Who's this? Jeff? Jeff? Okay, Well, thank you very 699 00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.159 much, thanks for listening. Appreciate it, thank you and thanks for letting 700 00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:50.599 us know on that. Thank you, Thank you, Jeff Damn Howard. 701 00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:52.519 I did look at the clock, so through with nine minutes left in the 702 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.039 show, so I'll find it. Well, Howard's called, wasn't that? 703 00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.280 I did do that the other day too? Was it him? Was him 704 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:01.400 the other day too, wasn't it? We don't have to have a chat 705 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.480 with Howard. He's texting me earlier he said he didn't. I'm telling him 706 00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:07.639 he did? You did? You did? We just gotta call it? 707 00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:12.480 Said you did? All right? Okay? So um, anyway, going 708 00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:15.679 back to going back to the subject, you know, just just address it, 709 00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:20.159 address it, get it out of the way. Sure, and and 710 00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:24.440 for you know, for the media is good, but also for Jade the 711 00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:27.760 lords. Sure of course. Let me ask you, have you checked over 712 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.079 unders winnings for Arizona? Was it like five and a half? Five and 713 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:34.960 a half? Probably still gonna be there, you unless it was a gift 714 00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.840 to you? But was it a gift? Would have a tough number, 715 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.559 yes, because now you're saying you're betting that they're going to be in a 716 00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:45.119 ball game. Mm hmmm right. Six wins? Yeah, according to our 717 00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:47.280 guy Jake, whoill be on tomorrow, he says, he says seven wins 718 00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:52.480 regular season and and then when possible win a ball game. Yeah, but 719 00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:58.920 he's never not optimistic. I'm looking it up right now to see where where 720 00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:02.920 Arizona is. They are. It's not five, which is like five and 721 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.760 a half. I'm not what five you tie so you can get your money 722 00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.159 back. But they've dropped to five, So five, I bet the way 723 00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.000 I'd go over if i'd go over, if I were to bet it, 724 00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:17.519 I'm not gonna bet it. But still, I mean, I don't see 725 00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:24.000 it. I don't see plus plus the plus your minus has gone down because 726 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:28.519 at five and a half it was minus one fifteen, not's minus one ten. 727 00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:30.599 Okay, I think I'm gonna have to go get this right now. 728 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:34.320 You're gonna go over? Yeah, yeah, I think that's the safest bet. 729 00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:37.079 Well, the smarter ben it's more fun to bet it that way. 730 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:39.639 Well, for you to go out there and bet against them, bet for 731 00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:44.920 them to lose. I guess Kevin Summers there, I might. I did 732 00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:46.559 that with Maca. I didn't bet, but I was rooting against him, 733 00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:50.519 so we get fired. But that's a kind of fan that I was. 734 00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:54.320 All right, Steve, that's it man, ok. Gold Nuggets. Steve's 735 00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:59.079 on the on the Nuggets. He needs them bad, needs him to win, 736 00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:01.360 needs him to keep win in and win the series. Steve wants them 737 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:05.119 in six. Yes, right, they don't have to win a six, 738 00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.519 but yes, all right, I'm taking the Nuggets. You just said the 739 00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:14.800 Lakers go back to me, all right, be back tomorrow. We're gonna 740 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:17.719 have Reggie Geary and Jake Fisher will be going now as step back tomorrow