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The next Stefan Good Day download with
Doug and Jay Kirshner is made possible in

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Show is our focus right now.
Warren Eckstein is our focus. And Happy

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New Year to all you animal lovers
who like listening to Warren, whether he's

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here or on the Pet Show Hurt
on a lot of these same stations every

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weekend around the country. He is
really an expert when it comes to taking

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care of animals. We were just
talking off the air about a number of

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things that affect our animal population.
This new three D printed device that Jay

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and I were talking about earlier,
which has aimed. The developers of this

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say they wanted to use it because
it gets rid of the need to test

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drugs and chemicals on animals, and
so they've gotten a funding boost from some

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private entities that are somehow rather weren't
getting a hold of human heart cells and

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lungs and kidney cells and liver cells
and brain cells. I don't know how

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they do that, but at least
they're not having to test live animals,

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and so that's why I thought this
would be good for you. I thought

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you'd be interested in this because it's
a problem. The animal approach versus the

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non animal approach is a non starter, I think in conversation, isn't it.

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Well, you know, this is
a battle I've been fighting for more

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years than I'd like to imagine,
and a lot of it is based on

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money. There have been computer projects
and samples where they didn't have to test

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on animals. But what happened to
give you a prime example years ago,

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I was involved with the debate,
and the debate was on animal testing,

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and they talked about this, and
they talked about that. So one university

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got millions of dollars to study the
effects of a certain drugs on black ponies.

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Another group, another college, got
the same amount of money to study

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the same drugs on white ponies.
White ponies and black ponies physiologically are exactactly

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the same, exactly the same.
So it was the redundancy. That's where

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I really got angry about the redundancy
of the testing because based on that,

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more and more places we're getting money
to do more testing. Nowadays, I

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believe there's really no need for testing
on animals, with the computer technology we

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have, it is just just abusive
as far as I'm concerned. And some

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of the abuses, you know,
even years ago it was worse. But

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the abuse these animals go through the
testing of with rabbits, with with makeups,

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squirting stuff in their eyes, which
I had to deal with years ago,

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and just I don't understand how people
can do that. Maybe years ago

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there might have been some need or
some idea that we can find this out

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or we can find that out.
But with technology the way it is,

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what you guys were talking about,
and all the new technology, it's amazing

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to me that that that animal experimentation
is still part of our are a way

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of doing things that makes you wonder, doesn't it. It does make you

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want, But it's always dollars and
cents. Everything always boils down. So

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if you give me money, I'll
do this, you know. Yep?

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Yeah, all right. Larren lives
in the to southern California, as I

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do part time. I noticed that
there are a lot of wildlife watchers off

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the coasts that have been treated to
a number of orca sightings. Orcas do

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they be? Are they eating dolphins? How does the food chain work with

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sharks, orcas and dolphins. Orcas
are likely. Yeah, they're kind of

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like the high predators, so there's
not too many. There's not too many

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animals that can fit an ochre in
their mouth. Yeah, so yeah,

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they just so. In fact,
there was some great vitnoch great. I

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hate to say great, but there's
some beautiful photos or videos of the orcas

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going after the dolphins, which breaks
my heart. But that's that's nature.

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That's the way things survive. I
haven't seen any. I've been going down

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to the beach, but the waves
have been so high here in Santa Monica,

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in the water so rough. For
the last few days, I haven't

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seen any orcas. I had the
opportunity years ago of hanging out with an

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orca and actually give them a beautiful
kiss on the nose. But they're really

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impressive animals. Yeah I got to
follow of it somewhere in my book,

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But they're impressive animals. They're they're
amazing, and just leave them alone.

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If we just leave the animals alone, what a great world this will be.

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It scares me when people go out
there though, on these well watching

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tours, because I really think it
upsets the animals themselves. All right.

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So here's this story that'll make your
day about a dog named Neo who had

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been in a shelter for four hundred
and fifty days. It was part of

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an animal abuse trial going on.
There were a number of like where my

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dog came from. There were forty
dogs in this one house, and they

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put the guy in jail who had
been running it. And this is another

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example of that with dogs that are
in My dog was in more than four

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hundred fair he was in there almost
two years anyway. So they found one

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of these dogs, the dog named
Neo, as they emptied out this house.

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And now they're using this dog to
rehab. They go to rehab homes

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with him, and apparently one of
the homes wanted to adopt him did so.

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This dog is the dog is the
dog of the house, if you

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will. It's a rehab facility in
central Arkansas. And the dog goes from

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floor to floor to room to room
and just brightens everybody's day. And they

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do exactly that, Doug. They
brighten everybody's day just seeing petting, holding,

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looking, laughing, smiling. Boy, there's nothing in a world like

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a good a good day spent with
a dog or a cat. Yep,

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that's part of the Good Day program. Make it a good day with your

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pets. Love them, love them, love them, and love them some

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more. Arron nex time love him. Thepetshow dot Com is his website.

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Check it out for a weekend programming
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