WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.640 It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:29.199 day. Now here's Nick coffee. All right, let's get our number two 3 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:34.399 started here our first show in the month of July. July first, and 4 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:38.679 my son, who just turned forward a month ago today, he has his 5 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:43.039 first flag football practice tonight, John, How do you feel about that? 6 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:47.719 I mean, I'm sure he's gonna have fun, and uh, that's great, 7 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:55.439 but he's just he's growing up too quick, and I just can't imagine 8 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:57.960 they'll be like he's got to be on the younger side, like he must 9 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:00.719 have just probably like I imagine you probably can't. I mean, are there 10 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.079 is there a football for three year olds? That's wild if there is, 11 00:01:03.400 --> 00:01:07.319 because you know, he just turned four, so therefore when it starts, 12 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:08.519 he's four, so maybe he's not. Like I don't even know what the 13 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:12.799 age range is. I want him to play whatever sports he wants to play, 14 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:15.920 and I want him to try every sport and figure out which ones he 15 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.599 likes best. Maybe he likes them all and he plays them all like he 16 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:23.159 loves baseball. And he doesn't get that for me, trust me, but 17 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:25.519 he loves it and he's you know from what I can tell, It's hard 18 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:27.079 to tell when you're that young, but he seems to be pretty good for 19 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:30.959 his age, right, he's you know, and he loves playing like it. 20 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:33.719 He likes practicing like it's you know, it's all he wants to do, 21 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:38.280 which you know makes me happy. In basketball, he's not. He's 22 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:40.840 not made it to a league just yet, which I don't have any problem 23 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:44.840 with. But like, here's my worry. It's good to have kids in 24 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:48.879 in sports really young because you know, maybe they pick up on it a 25 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.159 lot quicker than you know, kids did thirty years ago, whenever you had 26 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:55.920 to be you know, seven or something to play a certain sport. But 27 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:00.159 because they're so young in some of these sports, like we can call it 28 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:07.599 a basketball league, they ain't playing basketball and call it T ball and I'm 29 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:09.840 playing T ball. I mean here and there they are, but like they're 30 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:15.479 just laying down on the outfield, you know, just running in the bleachers 31 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:21.000 to you know, see mom midway through the second quarter in basketball, Like 32 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:24.759 I sometimes wonder and we'll find I mean again, I'm not going to stop 33 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:28.520 him from playing anything he wants to play, but I do wonder if that 34 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:35.479 could be counterproductive because you know, when I see the way kids are playing 35 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:39.159 basketball at the age of like four, that you know, it's something right 36 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:42.120 they have, like you know, they get to throw the ball in the 37 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:44.759 air every now and then, but like I don't know, Like I guess 38 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:49.120 they're so young they don't really grasp a lot of it. It doesn't stick 39 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:52.080 with them. So maybe there's some like muscle memory, some repetition to where 40 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:54.960 you do become better at dribbling the ball, and you you know, you 41 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:58.759 get better at shooting it. Although when you're so young, you don't shoot 42 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:00.639 it. You throw it like that's what it is, because you're not strong 43 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:04.479 enough to actually shoot it. So I don't know, I'm i'm i'm, 44 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:07.439 I'm paranoid about that kind of stuff, especially when it comes to basketball. 45 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:09.599 So like when we play outside, he's only four, but like I make 46 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:13.639 sure, you know, he's looking up when he dribbles as best he can. 47 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:19.039 You know, he doesn't throw it differently each time, and I say 48 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.080 shoot it. I don't say throw it because that would be like, you 49 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:22.919 know, an insult, but like that's what he's doing. He's throwing the 50 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:25.719 basketball and just hoping it ends up making it to, you know, the 51 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:30.280 level it needs to make it to have a chance to go in Did you 52 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:32.439 play What was the first sport you played as a kid. I don't remember 53 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:37.280 which one was first, but throughout my entire youth I did t ball and 54 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:42.159 baseball and then basketball and soccer. I never did football. Yeah, that 55 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:46.840 was too big of a whim. I thought about doing football, But even 56 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:49.039 as a young kid, I'm like, you know, where where would I 57 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:51.080 stand out in this sport? Like, you know, I was kind of 58 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:53.560 fast for a little guy, so maybe I could you know, maybe I 59 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:54.960 could have, But yeah, part of it was I was probably also scared 60 00:03:54.960 --> 00:04:00.080 to get hit and I would have been extremely uncomfortable wearing all that equipm And 61 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:00.919 eventually you get used to it. But as a kid, I would have 62 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:03.599 been like, nah, the same for me. I'll go I'll go play 63 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:08.639 the sport I like where I can literally just play by myself outside and like 64 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:12.560 only whar you know? Heck basketball shorts if I want to. And with 65 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:15.519 baseball, once you got from machine pitch to kid pitch, that's when I 66 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:18.680 was done. I didn't like the kids who couldn't throw the ball well and 67 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:20.959 they'd hit you every year yeah, they beam you right in the head. 68 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:25.759 I was like, this scary stuff. So I played basketball as early as 69 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.519 I can remember, and I think I was five the first time I played 70 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:30.920 basketball. But at that point, I was still the kid that kind of 71 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:33.279 like, yeah, you know, they can put me on the floor as 72 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:38.839 one of the five kids, but I'm quite sure I'm gonna either get called 73 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.680 for traveling or I'm not gonna be able to hit the rim if I shoot 74 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.720 it, because I think the lead it was five to seven, and there 75 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:47.759 there was a big difference, at least from what I can remember. It 76 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.600 was a long time ago, but like the seven year olds seemed like adults 77 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:55.480 to me, because I just I think there's a and there is there's certain 78 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:57.879 ages, and I don't you know, my kids are still relatively young, 79 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.480 but man, you know, you look at a at a ten year old 80 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:03.920 and a thirteen year old, I mean that's three years, right, but 81 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:09.279 like that, you look just a drastic difference depending upon age. But I 82 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:13.079 remember when I was six, I had a girl spurt and it was much 83 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.319 different, and then basketball just became the love of my life. I played 84 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:18.680 t ball before I played anything, and I got hit with the ball and 85 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:24.920 never came back, and our coach was a drunk. I didn't. I 86 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:27.759 didn't realize that at the time, but I later learned that he had to, 87 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:31.680 you know, he had to bail and you know didn't didn't didn't coach 88 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:33.759 us anymore, And that made it to where I feel like it wasn't a 89 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:39.279 real thing for where like that kind of soured the experience for a lot of 90 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.120 parents who were first time t ball parents that the coach was no longer allowed 91 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:45.879 to coach us because he kept showing up drunk. So like it kind of 92 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:47.800 just faded away, and I never had any interest to go back and play. 93 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.079 But yeah, I didn't. I mean, I wouldn't have been good 94 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:53.319 at any other sport, and I was, you know, not that I 95 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:56.279 was some legendary basketball player, but it was a sport where I was, 96 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.199 you know, I was able to play and had fun and you know, 97 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:01.399 I played at all and you know, played it until I was, I 98 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:06.439 guess nineteen. That's whenever I realized, you know, sitting on the bench 99 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:10.600 of a college team just really wasn't something I wanted to do because I wasn't 100 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:14.839 good enough to actually play. But uh, yeah, he'll so he's four, 101 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.000 and he has played two seasons of t ball. He played fallball last 102 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:24.319 year and then he just finished up his league and then now and now he's 103 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:30.079 starting football. He'll do basketball this winter, which when he'll still be four. 104 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.079 So I think he will have played three different sports before I had ever 105 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:35.839 played any when I was that age. Yeah, that's insane. I was 106 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:41.680 probably four or five when I started doing any sort of youth sport. Yeah. 107 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:46.399 And one thing I really really shouldn't take for granted, because like it's 108 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:50.399 hard, but he's never been the kid in anything he's done that just cries 109 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:53.920 and doesn't want to be there. And if your kid does that, it 110 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.680 doesn't mean that there's something wrong. It means they're a kid there there, 111 00:06:57.000 --> 00:07:00.959 especially if they've been at school all day or daycare or whatever and you got 112 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:03.480 practice at seven o'clock and you know, it's seven thirty and they're tired as 113 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.120 hell, so they get to wining and just wanting to go home. Like 114 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:10.040 he's really into it. In fact, he gets sad when we have to 115 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:12.560 leave. So that's that's you know, if I could give, if I 116 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:15.839 could give, you know, who knows, maybe he'll never play any sports 117 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:16.839 and not end up being any good to make any team. I don't know. 118 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:19.480 I hope that's not the case, but as of now, at four 119 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:23.879 years old, I can that that's my that's my compliment to my son as 120 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:27.279 an athlete. He at least likes to play and doesn't quit because again, 121 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:30.439 like I actually feel like that's pretty pretty awesome, because again, most kids 122 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:34.040 just get burned out with it, especially whenever you know you're in the outfield 123 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:39.319 at a at a T ball game, like you're not getting any action out 124 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:41.680 there, nobody's hitting it, you know, to the to the fence. 125 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:44.879 Now, he does get distracted and run around, but it's not to where 126 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.439 like you know, he wants to leave, all right, let's do it. 127 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:51.240 Coffee and Company feel by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. If 128 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:54.439 you guys want to jump in, you can five O two five seven one 129 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:57.079 seventy nine hundred is the number to give us a call. You can text 130 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:00.160 in on the L and N Federal Credit Union text line five h two six 131 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:03.279 five three zero seven ninety. We'll get back to the text line here just 132 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:05.720 a moment, but we've got the TBT coming up a little later this month. 133 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:09.759 Uh, super excited about seeing these guys in action once again, Like 134 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:16.720 I'm having some some flashbacks to how fun it was last year to watch former 135 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:22.160 Louisville players that were legends here and the elam ending. The way those games 136 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.439 end, I think is awesome and it's high level basketball, so I shouldn't 137 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.040 be surprised, but I was a little surprised to see this number. So 138 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:35.279 right now, when you look at tickets sold for the let's see, let 139 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.799 me pull up the uh let me pull it up here. Yeah, so 140 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:43.960 for tickets sold right now as of today, Louisville is in the lead of 141 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:48.000 everybody right because this is the I don't know if they call it the regional 142 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:54.200 round. I don't know what they call it, but the for I don't 143 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:56.600 know what they call. I guess I need to pull up the regional pods. 144 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:00.519 Yeah, yeah, for you know, all the pods out there, 145 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.519 because I think, yeah, don't they call isn't it like the quarterfinals something 146 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.559 like? Yeah, so if you end up winning your pod, you then 147 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:09.440 will go to the quarterfinals. And what the TVT decided to do, which 148 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:13.200 I think is a really good marketing tool for them, really good marketing idea, 149 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.480 I should say is they're going to give home court advantage if it ends 150 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:20.080 up being Louisville and Kentucky, because both Lexington and Louisville are host sites for 151 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:26.759 this. If you have whoever sells the most tickets within the pod or the 152 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.799 you know, the regional whatever you're whatever they're calling it, we'll get to 153 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:31.519 host, which is again a really good way for them to drive up tickets 154 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:37.200 sales. So right now Louisville is dominating. They've sold three thousand and ninety 155 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:43.039 tickets. Butler, which is the Indianapolis pod, which has Butler with a 156 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:46.600 team, IU has a team. Is there any other like for Okay? 157 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:50.679 Yeah, so they've sold one nine and seventy nine. They're in second place. 158 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:54.759 And then Lexington the UK team La Familia they've sold one thousand, six 159 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.480 hundred and forty two. So no surprise that you know. And by the 160 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.320 way, there are there are pods essentially all around the country. You know, 161 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:05.600 there's not you know, fifty of them, but these are three cities 162 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:11.639 that really care about really care about basketball, right and it's not a college 163 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:13.679 basketball event, but that's the draw, right, That's the hook from the 164 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:18.159 TBT itself is because they're going to have a much better chance of bringing a 165 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:22.759 lot of people to these games buying tickets if in fact, you know they 166 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.639 can market Hey, come watch. You know eighty percent of this roster that 167 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:31.159 all played for your team, and that's clearly what's happening here with the Louisville 168 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:35.240 team and with the Kentucky team as well. So if you go and look 169 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:43.679 at the top twenty most attended, yeah, says the top twenty attendance all 170 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:48.879 time, which Chita, Kansas owns the top four. In fact, they 171 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:58.039 own six of the top seven, which is crazy. So last year there 172 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:03.120 were seven two hundred and two people that went to one of the games that 173 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.879 was at Wichita, and then in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one and then 174 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:09.840 another game. So this is just one game, you know, So the 175 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:13.320 seven two hundred and two is is just for one night of the event. 176 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.919 Louisville last year had five thousand, four hundred and sixty nine, which ended 177 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.799 up being fifth place as far as most attendance for a game. They also 178 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.039 came in at eighth last year with a different game, which was four thousand, 179 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:28.399 seven hundred and eighty five. So look, every every Louisville louisvill played 180 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:33.559 three games last year I think it was in the TVT and ended up losing 181 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:37.519 before they could get to the quarterfinals. But all three of their games are 182 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:39.639 in the top twelve of all time, so they're doing their part. But 183 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.879 I feel like now that Louisville fans got a chance to experience it and get 184 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:48.240 a taste for what it is, they'll be even more than they're high last 185 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:50.720 year, which was again right about fifty five hundred. And if you're wondering, 186 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:56.000 if you're wondering about Wichita, Wichita has a team and they're they're kind 187 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:01.360 of quietly one of the more under I don't want say undervalue, but Wichita 188 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.639 State has a big basketball fan base. You know, they they have really 189 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.879 good attendance. I mean, Kansas is a basketball state. I mean with 190 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:16.120 Wichita and with Kansas of course being one of the legendary programs. So Wichita 191 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:18.639 is always the host for this instead of Lawrence because Wichita is obviously a much 192 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:24.200 bigger city, and Wichita State and Kansas have teams, so you got two 193 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.200 big fan bases. Like if Louisville and Kentucky shared a pod here, can 194 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:30.720 you imagine what ticket sales would be my gosh, that'd be no. Yeah, 195 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:31.759 And it makes sense for them not to put them in the same pod 196 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.679 because you can you can literally you can eat off both, right, because 197 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:37.279 Lexin's gonna have a good turnout, I would assume, even though they're a 198 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:41.840 little bit behind in ticket sales now, and obviously Louisville did good last year 199 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.840 and them wanting to come back and bring it here means it's working and I'm 200 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.480 really hoping they can. I mean, I felt like they had more than 201 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.279 fifty five hundred last year, but you know, seventy two hundred people in 202 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.360 Freedom Hall to watch these guys play does not sound unrealistic at all to me. 203 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.000 And I feel like last year there were so many people that just didn't 204 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.600 really know what it was. They're like, what are we doing? Like 205 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:09.120 because there used to be like these pro am games around town and they were 206 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:11.759 never like a Freedom Hall. But like it used to be that uncommon to 207 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:13.679 be, you know, to find an event where you'd see a bunch of 208 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.600 former Louisville players in Kentucky players, but they weren't you know, they weren't 209 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:20.080 playing on you know, at Freedom Hall, and they weren't playing for a 210 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.320 share of a million dollars. So I would imagine a lot of people who 211 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:24.440 went back last year are going to be going, and people who didn't get 212 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:28.360 to go last year are gonna want to go. So yeah, they they'll 213 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.799 play their first game. It'll be on Saturday, July at the twentieth at 214 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:35.559 two pm. And I think it also helps. I don't know how many 215 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.200 ticket sales are for Bellerman, but they played Bellerman in the first game, 216 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:41.600 and you know, I'll put it this way, there'll be more people buying 217 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:45.600 tickets for Bellerman than there would be if there was a you know, a 218 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:50.679 team made up of former players from like you know, Texas State or something, 219 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:52.519 right, I mean, it's it's you know, there's clearly a lot 220 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:54.919 of I mean, in fact, a lot of the guys who played for 221 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:00.960 Bellerman that had great careers and some of them are still playing professional. Those 222 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:03.679 guys are from the community, so there's a ton of I mean, this 223 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:05.240 is a chance for you know, if you live, if you're a Beller, 224 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:09.919 former Bellerman player, and I'll give you your name. Guy actually just 225 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.000 a little bit, a little bit younger than me, but I remember him 226 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.399 playing at Jeffersonville High School, Jeremy Kendall, who was not a highly recruited 227 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:20.000 guy, went to Juco and then Scotty Davenport knew he had knew he had 228 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:24.559 something special there and recruited him to Bellerman and he was a great player there. 229 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:28.120 I think he's still playing professionally overseas. He's probably at least a decade 230 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:30.399 into his pro career. Well, he's from right here in the area of 231 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:33.039 Jeffersonville, and of all the places he's played, I'm sure there are a 232 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:37.399 lot of friends and family that have not been able to make it across the 233 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:41.080 pond because it's not exactly convenient, right, Like, you're not you're you're 234 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:43.559 you're literally traveling across the world to go watch somebody play. So you know, 235 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:46.360 this could be a chance for those guys to have family and friends come 236 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:48.519 out and see them for the first time in a long long time, and 237 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:52.879 you know, a real game at Freedom Hall. And again, the money, 238 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:54.720 I don't want to act like these guys are hurting for money. And 239 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:58.840 if you're making a living playing the game you love at any level, I 240 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:03.039 think you should consider self to be blessed. But you won't see guys taking 241 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:07.080 place off you won't see. I mean, like if a guy is the 242 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:11.159 eighth or ninth man, maybe he doesn't love that, but he's gonna buy 243 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:15.440 in and really try to do his best he can in that roll off the 244 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:18.080 bench, because hey, the money splits a certain way, right, and 245 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.399 I think certain guys do. I mean, that's part of the GM role 246 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.639 of these teams is you've got to you know, you got to make them 247 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:26.159 an offer, like if we win, I want this much money. You 248 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.480 know, if this guy comes in and says, look, I'll take this 249 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.519 much if we win. Obviously not the biggest piece of the pie essentially, 250 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:35.440 but you know it's good enough for me, Like you know that that's actually 251 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:41.200 a role that it's pretty important because you know, you're really negotiating the buyout. 252 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:45.240 And there's also money that goes into this. People don't realize, right, 253 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.320 Like we've got you know, Chennaio on Awaku coming to Louisville for however 254 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:52.679 long, Right, he'll be here training and practicing before the event, and 255 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:56.000 he'll be like, they're not paying for their own place to stay. Right, 256 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:58.600 So there's some sponsorship money that comes in, some money that has to 257 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:03.000 be raissy the by the group itself. In order just to make this happened, 258 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.399 and they were able to do that. And I said it after last 259 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:10.799 year, even though they lost and it was unfortunate the way it ended with 260 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:15.799 that desperation three that that ended the game. This could become kind of our 261 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:21.080 thing. And I don't mean like to replace March, because we haven't been 262 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:23.600 relevant in March in a long time. I'm hopeful it can be because we 263 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:27.480 love basketball around here as much, if not more than anybody. And I 264 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:32.759 don't mean just Louisville. I mean you know Lexington too, like UK and 265 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:40.039 U of L, should be the dominant programs in in these events. And 266 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:42.200 I don't mean just by winning, because that's easier said than done, but 267 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:47.679 I mean like by hosting and having big crowds and having good teams. Because 268 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:52.679 if it's a bunch of former players that we all loved when they were around 269 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.279 for our programs and you know they're getting together to play again, I mean, 270 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:00.240 I just I don't think it's far fetched to say that, like, 271 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:02.879 if this thing keeps going, like it could be a thing where every July 272 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:04.920 we just know, hey, I can't wait for the TBT this year because 273 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:10.359 you know, perfect example, Montrez Harrald. The guy's been in the NBA 274 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:14.440 for you know, almost a decade now, and you know now he's not 275 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:17.039 because of his injury, so he's available to play. Like that's a new 276 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:18.880 player that, Like, I mean, Montre's one of the best all time 277 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:22.480 players here. Ever, I'm not saying he's the best, but he's certainly 278 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:26.240 a guy who had a phenomenal career. And you know, maybe in two 279 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:30.400 years it'll be Jordan Wara. Heck, maybe in you know, seven eight 280 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:34.319 years it'll be Terry Rozier, you know, Gorgy Jang maybe. So you 281 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:38.200 know, there's endless players that could end up playing that fans would love to 282 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:41.000 see, and they're probably you know, if they stay in shape, they're 283 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:44.680 probably going to be able to help you too. So I hope that that's 284 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:48.519 the case, because again, when you think about the plans for the TBT, 285 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:55.440 the event itself, like I think Louisville specifically is like best case scenario 286 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:59.920 for them because again, we have a legitimate arena and we have fans. 287 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:03.160 It'll come out and buy tickets and show up, and you know, there's 288 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.279 no reason Louisville shouldn't every year when they have a team be able to have 289 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:10.680 a team that could potentially win this whole thing. I will say this though, 290 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:12.240 and I'm glad somebody brought this up on the text line. I don't 291 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:15.839 remember the breakdown either, but you are right who just texted this in. 292 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:22.400 They gouged us last year and I wouldn't able to go because I was out 293 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.559 of town. That was when we took our vacation and I had Foamo man, 294 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:27.799 but I was watching on the beach at night. He took our beach 295 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.119 walk that night and I had it out on my phone because I'm watching it 296 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:33.279 like it's a real tournament game, and it was awesome. But you know, 297 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:41.559 the other pods, like Omaha had one. Other cities prices were like 298 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:48.440 seventy percent more expensive to get in for the Louisville game than the others. 299 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:49.559 And it's because they knew people would pay that, you know what I mean, 300 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:52.920 Like, they know you want to be there and you'll pay, you 301 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.039 know, a premium. You know, they're probably having to cel tickets fairly 302 00:18:56.119 --> 00:19:00.039 cheap to get people in the door, you know, in these other and 303 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:04.680 spots. I would imagine that that hainkle Field House will be awesome, because 304 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:07.759 that's not a huge place anyway, and it's a good environment, Like I 305 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:11.960 bet that'll be a really cool uh yeah. Plus will be Indiana's first time 306 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.559 having a team in the TVT, so it'll be interesting to see. They 307 00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:18.000 got some good players, Yeah, Troy Williams, Juwan Morgan, Yogi Ferrell, 308 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.599 even Jordan Holes who's currently on the Indiana staff as a recruiting coordinator or 309 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.359 something. He's on the team. Man, Juwan Morgan, Like he's probably 310 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:29.200 still playing at a really high level, I would imagine because he's been away 311 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:33.799 from Indiana for a little while, but he's playing overseas in Russia. Yeah, 312 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:37.240 it means he's making money if he's playing at the top level, which 313 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:38.079 i'd imagine. He had a couple of years in the NBA, I feel 314 00:19:38.119 --> 00:19:41.880 like with the Jazz. Yeah, he made an NBA roster. I think 315 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:44.920 he got drafted in general, but he had a decent run in the NBA. 316 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:49.240 And this is one of those things where in most like in a lot 317 00:19:49.319 --> 00:19:53.559 of other places, you know, especially like in the South, where they've 318 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:56.880 already they've been talking football for every second. You know, they do it 319 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.200 year round. Like it'd be a tough sell to like like make it you 320 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:04.079 know, content make it topical because you know, it just would be. 321 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:07.960 But here, like, I don't feel like I'm talking about something that nobody 322 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:08.799 would care about. I feel like, if you're a Louisville, a Kentucky 323 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:11.720 fan, and now even I guess you could say an Indiana fan, like 324 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.359 you're gonna be not tuning in and locked in like you are when your team's 325 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:18.359 playing in you know, the season, because again these these isn't a college 326 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:26.319 basketball game. But yeah, this region specifically should always have teams because they're 327 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:30.519 you know, they should always have good turnouts. And again, the teams 328 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.720 could be pretty good. It's a shame Indiana can only face Louisville or Kentucky 329 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.000 if both would make the national you know, the title game. Oh they're 330 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.799 on their whole other side. That'd be something though, wouldn't it? All 331 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:42.960 right? Quick break will come back, keep this thing rolling along, Get 332 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:48.359 back to the text line. Talk about the latest with this? Uh, 333 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:51.759 I mean, what do you call it? It's not a scandal, but 334 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:56.240 Kyle Philapowski, it's an entanglement. We'll call it that. Give it locked 335 00:20:56.279 --> 00:21:02.240 right here on Sports Talk seven ninety so. Some good questions coming in here 336 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:04.200 on the text line five pot two sixty five three zero seven ninety. It's 337 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:08.559 the LNN Federal Credit Union text line members get more at LLENN Federal Credit Union. 338 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:11.519 You can learn more and open your account today at LNFCU dot com. 339 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.400 All right, so, uh, some people have asked about certain players why 340 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:18.559 they're not playing, and I wish I had an answer for you, But 341 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:22.279 yeah, David Johnson is somebody that I feel like is still playing at a 342 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.480 high level. And last year he wanted to play. I think they were 343 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:32.200 in the I mean, I think they were getting close to finalizing it, 344 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:37.359 but might have been his agent potentially that told him to hold off. Because 345 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:41.599 here's the here's the rule. If you're not on an NBA contract, you 346 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:47.720 can play in this event. If you are even I mean if you're on 347 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:51.519 a G League contract, I mean I think those are usually I don't think 348 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:53.440 anybody has a long term G League contract, right, So like once the 349 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:57.720 year's over, like you're available to do whatever you want. Like there's guys 350 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:00.160 who probably play in the G League and then playing this in the summer and 351 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.319 then they're back to the G League the next year. So that's the only 352 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:07.240 rule that the tournament has as far as who can, who can and who 353 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:11.400 can't play. I got if you guys remember Joe Johnson played in let me. 354 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:12.519 I'm sure a lot of people remember. He's one of the best scores 355 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:15.960 for a long time in the NBA, played in the league for a long 356 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.160 long time. I think he just recently retired, but he was out of 357 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:22.039 the out of the league, not on a contract, a free agent, 358 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.680 just when this tournament took place a few years ago and he played in it, 359 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:26.799 and then he was back in the NBA, I think the next year. 360 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.759 So you know why some of these guys don't play. I don't know. 361 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:36.559 I I'm sure there's way more to it than I than I would ever 362 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:38.200 realize. But you know, you have Kyle Curic, Russ Smith, Payton, 363 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:44.359 Siva Montrez, Harrell Shanano, and Owaku. I mean, those are 364 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:45.960 just the big names that stand out without me looking at the roster. But 365 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:52.000 you know, if you are David Johnson, or you are Dwayne Sutton, 366 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:57.799 Raised Spaulding, those kind of guys. Jalen Johnson, by the way, 367 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:06.359 who's still playing at a really high level professionally, maybe it's about I don't 368 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:10.359 know, I mean, technically, I guess if you're if you're on an 369 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.799 over you could have a stipulation in your contract if you're playing overseas, they 370 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:15.599 could keep you from being able to play. Like that's I forgot about this, 371 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:18.680 thank you on the text line, I forgot Earl Clark could agreed to 372 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:22.000 play last year and was going to be a part of it, and then 373 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:25.119 he had to back out because there was a stipulation in the contract with the 374 00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:26.799 team he was playing for overseas that did not allow him to play. I 375 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.160 guess violate his contract if that was the case. So I'm sure that that's 376 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:34.680 that's part of it. And money, right like, I mean, I 377 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:38.920 you know, there's there's there's only so much money you could offer everybody, 378 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.000 right, Like it's not an even split. There's certain players that have set 379 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:44.960 you know, they just met like and I get it, Like if you're 380 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:49.440 somebody who like Nan, who like to me, Nan, who is the 381 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:56.920 actual guy that is just unfortunately an old school big that would not translate to 382 00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:00.440 the NBA that well. But he's a really good player, really smart player. 383 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:04.119 He if he stays healthy, he'll play for many more years professionally and 384 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.480 make a lot of money. I mean this this past year he played. 385 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:15.559 I mean, heck, let's see, he was in he was in Korea, 386 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:21.640 and then most recently he signed to play in Puerto Rico. He spent 387 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:26.079 time in Israel. So I mean, he's playing in high level leagues making 388 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:29.880 a lot of money, and he'll continue to do that, and he could 389 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.000 get hurt in this and not be able to play for a you know, 390 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:34.720 for you know, maybe never play again, depending on the injury. So 391 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:40.519 the reason I bring that up is because if you are somebody that you know, 392 00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:44.680 if you're somebody that this is your livelihood still right like you you're going 393 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:48.519 to continue, this is how you make money. Agreeing to do this means 394 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.359 hey, I'm gonna hedge myself a little bit here, right that if I 395 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.119 end up you know, if I don't know, I just I think the 396 00:24:56.200 --> 00:25:00.480 way the money breaks down is probably a bigger deal. Certainly a big deal 397 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.000 because money matters. But there's probably a lot of negotiation that goes into this 398 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:06.359 more than like, hey, we're gonna get a team together. You want 399 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:07.920 to play, sure, Like guys want to know what kind of money they're 400 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:12.000 gonna make. And if you know there are four players that are gonna get 401 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:17.480 the biggest payments, and then you know you've got a second tier and maybe 402 00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:19.680 even a third tier. You may call somebody who you know that would help 403 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:23.400 you, but they're not gonna play for that little of money. And you 404 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:26.480 know, little money a lot of money. That's all relative. But yeah, 405 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.279 there's a lot of guys I feel like they could help, Like Dwayne 406 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:32.000 Sutton, to me, would be perfect for this. And I don't know 407 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:33.200 why he's not been involved in the last two teams. And I don't say 408 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:36.880 that to criticize anybody. I'm sure there's an obvious reason that I just don't 409 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:41.200 know about, all right. I like when you guys do this on the 410 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.880 text line, you bump your text that I read and say, yeah, 411 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:47.880 that's a good question, let me think about it. I'll get back to 412 00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:49.200 it later, and then I just completely forget about it, lose track of 413 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.000 time, and you know that's what happened here. So this was a really, 414 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:55.519 really good question that came in last week, and I thank you for 415 00:25:55.559 --> 00:26:00.240 bumping it, it, says Nick. Obviously, this hypothetical question over the 416 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.720 years has irritated you because it's stupid, and I agree. When asked if 417 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.640 you could only win one of the games against the rival Kentucky and basketball, 418 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:12.720 Kentucky and football, who would it be? Let's see, Yeah, the 419 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:18.400 long text, but the gist of it is which one is more important? 420 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.440 And I think this person's doing talk to text because I know talk to text 421 00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:26.759 because sometimes people just have bad grammar sometimes talk to text just you know, 422 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.759 as somebody who tried to use it for a while and realized it's not as 423 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:33.559 effective even if you do speak perfect English, like, it's just never gonna 424 00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.519 get it right as far as grammar or certain words. But I think what 425 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:41.640 you're asking is which one would be more of a big deal for Louisville this 426 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:44.640 year? Right, we have not beat Kentucky and football in a long time. 427 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:52.440 We haven't beat Kentucky and basketball in I guess it's been three seasons in 428 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:56.680 twenty in Max. Last year they didn't play and then Kenny lost to him 429 00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:00.160 both times. So yeah, it's been three years. So, by the 430 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.359 way, thank you for acknowledging how stupid that hypothetical question is, because like, 431 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:07.400 you want to win both badly, right, you're not. There's no 432 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:12.160 like you know, there's no easy way to answer that because you also don't 433 00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.680 want to act like one is not super important. They're both important. In 434 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.319 fact, every game against your rival is important. But let's be real, 435 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:23.359 I'd say there's way more of a of a of a desire or dare I 436 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:29.359 say desperation for you to beat Kentucky if you're a Louisville fan in basketball or 437 00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:36.759 football, same thing on the Kentucky side. So timing is tricky here because 438 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:44.519 in basketball it's new, right Like, there's not like a streak we're trying 439 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.400 to break here, right Like Mark Pope's the new coach at Kentucky, Pat 440 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.720 Kelsey's new coach at Louisville. You know, there's really no like the rivalry 441 00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:55.880 itself is kind of resetting here. And yeah, it's a good chance for 442 00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:57.319 Louisville to get off to a good start, maybe create a streak of their 443 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.559 own, because you know, Caliperry won a lot when he played Louisville. 444 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:06.000 He didn't lose many times, So that would be you know, that'd be 445 00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:08.440 great to knock off. I mean, if Pat Kelsey wins his first game 446 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:14.759 in rupp Arena, that'd be huge, and it would be you know, 447 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:17.839 it really set the tone I think for the rivalry, right, I mean, 448 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.759 it's just one game. Who knows, maybe one team would maybe maybe 449 00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.279 the losing team ends up actually having a way worse season than the winning team. 450 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:26.559 You never know how it's going to play out. That's actually happened before. 451 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.480 But I mean, I gotta answer. I gotta say football like football. 452 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:34.079 It may not even do anything for Louisville as far as like their season, 453 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:37.799 as far as a bowl game, or as far as like it being 454 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:44.400 an accomplishment that like changes the way objective people view your twenty twenty four season. 455 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.799 But strictly from like a fan standpoint, they need to be Kentucky badly 456 00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:56.759 and last year, I mean, that game didn't change anything for Louisville as 457 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.599 far as like where what would have happened with them? I mean, we'll 458 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.519 never know, But I like, if Louisville ends up beating Kentucky holding on 459 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:08.240 to win that one and then they end up still losing the same way to 460 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:12.960 Florida State, I don't think they that's not going to get Like Florida State's 461 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.599 not going to then get in the playoff because they beat a Louisville team that 462 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.920 had an extra win on their schedule and it happened to be a Kentucky team 463 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.599 that was below average in their own league. So it was just about ending 464 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.400 the streak and getting bragging rights back on our side. Ten wins season, 465 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.759 brom delivering right from the jump, and then you lose to Kentucky when they 466 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:38.039 actually hated their team, They hated their quarterback. I don't think they hated 467 00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.160 their coach, but things weren't great whenever he told them to pony up more 468 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:45.720 money because they were getting their ass kicked by Georgia. Like that was the 469 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:49.680 worst loss to have, but it's not as bad knowing that it didn't. 470 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:56.160 What makes it not as painful, and trust me, it's painful is that 471 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.160 it didn't change anything for you and you can sit back and still know that 472 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.839 you had a good year. Like Louisville didn't not have a good year because 473 00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:08.920 they lost to Kentucky. Some people might have said that in real time because 474 00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:12.799 of the emotions that come with losing to your arrival. But louill went ten 475 00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:17.000 and three and played in the a SEC Championship game. And I don't care 476 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:22.039 about the schedule being easier than most ACC in fact, easier than probably every 477 00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:26.240 ACC school. Like you won ten games and you beat some good teams along 478 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.759 the way. You didn't beat any elite teams, but I mean, you 479 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:34.440 know, you won ten games. That doesn't happen very often you win ten 480 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.519 games in a Power five conference. So that makes it to where it's like 481 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.279 not something I'm stewing on, because again, I still think it's safe to 482 00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:47.880 say that overall, coming off of a ten win season, like you established 483 00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:52.319 momentum for your program. But then again, like the way you lost, 484 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.200 like the way it ended, I should say, like, you know, 485 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:56.880 losing three in a rows never ideal to have it in, but still like 486 00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.480 it doesn't wash away the fact that you won ten games, and I think 487 00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:06.440 that team really you got best case scenario out of those guys. I mean, 488 00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:07.359 obviously you still could have beat Pitt and that would have been great, 489 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.160 but you also won a couple of games that maybe you shouldn't have. The 490 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.000 one that stands out to me is the NC State game when you beat them 491 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:22.680 in Raleigh. So yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's a 492 00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.119 tough question. It's a tough question answer. I mean, obviously I want 493 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.640 to win both, but if I'm strictly thinking of which one would be more 494 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:33.519 meaningful, I think it's just ending the streak in football, because that's just 495 00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.680 it's I mean, I never thought I would live to see the day where 496 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:42.799 Louisville would have this big of a losing streak to Kentucky. I mean the 497 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:49.559 last time they beat them was in twenty seventeen. I mean, Louisville hasn't 498 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:57.759 beat Kentucky on their home field in how long? I guess it would be. 499 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:07.200 Gosh, so you lost in sixteen on your home field, and then 500 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:08.880 I guess fourteen would have been. Yeah, the last time, the last 501 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:13.519 time Kentucky. But I'm sorry, the last time a Louisville Kentucky and football 502 00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:17.200 on their home field at Cardinal Stadium which is now Llen N Cardinal Stadium was 503 00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:23.759 in twenty fourteen when Kyle Bollen came in and Kentucky still seemed to not know 504 00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:28.960 not only not know the resume and the credentials of one Devonte Parker, but 505 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:34.519 they seemingly didn't know who he was because they just kept letting him I mean, 506 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.960 just Moss any defensive back Kentucky put on him. So yeah, the 507 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.559 more I talk about it, that, yeah, just ending the streak like 508 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.720 that, that's got end it. Look, even if they're terrible this year, 509 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:47.599 which I'm not saying Kentucky's gonna be terrible, theybe be good. I 510 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.440 don't know, no clue. It's just a matter of ending it right. 511 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:55.960 Like it's not about anything substantial. I mean, they could they could be 512 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.319 two and nine going into that game, and I'll be a nervous wreck because 513 00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:07.440 you know, in fact, I wonder if if you look at it that 514 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:09.839 way, like and I don't think they're going to be that bad, but 515 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:16.000 like I'm trying to think of a scenario where the pressure would be would be 516 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:21.839 on Louisville to win. I mean, because the pressure is there to break 517 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.599 the streak. But if Kentucky's having a good year and you're kind of mid, 518 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:28.640 I guess it's whatever. But honestly, the pressure was on louis last 519 00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:30.119 year, to be honest with you. They were eight and a half point 520 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:31.599 favorites when it kicked off, and it was because I mean, I remember 521 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:36.799 the show is leading up to that game right before Thanksgiving, and like Kentucky 522 00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.559 fans didn't I mean, they wouldn't say that they couldn't win, but they 523 00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:44.319 didn't have any confidence in their team, and Louisville fans were really confident, 524 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.680 and it you know, didn't didn't work out, the pressure would really be 525 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:52.680 on Louisville if they happened to have a playoff spot potentially on the line. 526 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.640 Yeah, and not saying that that's exactly where they're headed. I mean, 527 00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:58.680 I know they definitely could. But now that you have the expanded playoff, 528 00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:00.640 I mean, that's the situation they would have been in last year if they 529 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.359 had twelve teams in tea playoff, no doubt. I mean, I still 530 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.719 think it would have been tough because of the loss you had at that point. 531 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:12.280 Would it was so bad to pit you know? Yeah? But no, 532 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:17.199 I mean yeah, And that's that's that's where the rivalry could really really 533 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:21.880 ramp up. We're never going to be known for our football rivalry. It's 534 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:23.840 always going to be basketball and I don't see that ever changing. And we're 535 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.960 never going to be getting near the amount of attention and all the other great 536 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:31.440 rivalry the great rivalries get on that day it's it's you know, it's rivalry 537 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:36.400 weekend. Essentially. You've got Alabama and Auburn, You've got Ohio State, 538 00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:38.920 Michigan. You know, it's it. We're never going to be there. 539 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:44.800 I don't think, but if there was a scenario where Louisville and Kentucky were 540 00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:49.039 both having like really really good years, it you know, if there's a 541 00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:52.639 potential spot, even if it's just for one team, you know you could 542 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.400 play spoiler. And although you're not playing for a spot in the in the 543 00:34:55.599 --> 00:35:00.639 twelve team playoff because you know you have a couple more losses because you're playing 544 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:04.159 a better league, you know you'd still feel you know, there's still be 545 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.559 a lot on the line for you to to eliminate and play spoiler for somebody 546 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.679 like Louisville because these two teams have never played each other when both are ranked 547 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:15.840 in football. And I gotta be honest, I don't. I don't know 548 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.920 how like that that could happen. I don't want to say it's impossible, 549 00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.119 but I don't. I don't see it. And it's not because you know, 550 00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:25.760 Kentucky's going to be the doorm out of the SEC. But like, 551 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.599 their lives just got a lot more difficult, right, they don't have divisions 552 00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.880 anymore, and they're going to be playing two teams. You know, there's 553 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.440 two teams added. They won't play them every year, but that's a much 554 00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:40.280 tougher game, and by the time you get to week twelve, I think 555 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:44.440 even if you did have a good season for who you are, tough to 556 00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.400 see you in the top twenty five at that point because you probably have too 557 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:49.760 many losses. And I don't mean you'll have a losing record, but you 558 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:54.079 know, it's just unrealistic. And for Louisville, you know they could they 559 00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:57.119 could be there, right, I mean, heck, they were there last 560 00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:01.400 year as far as being a ranked team. But now feel bad about not 561 00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.199 answering basketball because you know, be great for Pat Kelsey to get it. 562 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.039 I mean, it's a tough question to answer, which again I'm glad you 563 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.360 asked it, But I would say, what's the most important for Louisville fans? 564 00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:13.280 Again, I can only speak for myself, but I would say, 565 00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.360 we got to end this streak to Kentucky and football should have never happened. 566 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.559 And it's sad, all right, I'll be sad if you guys don't stick 567 00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.159 with us for the next hour and fifteen minutes. We're taking up till six 568 00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.119 o'clock like we always do. So stick around right here. Coffee and company. 569 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:30.360 Feel by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety so I really don't think there's 570 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:37.079 a whole lot of new information on Kyle Philipowski and his girlfriend since we talked 571 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.280 about it on Friday. It just I think seems to continue to spread as 572 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:46.519 far as just the unusual, and I guess really the intriguing component here because 573 00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:52.719 it's you know, I mean, this guy was believed to be like a 574 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:57.360 lock to be a top seventeen to eighteen pick. He got invited to the 575 00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:00.400 green room ESPN. They're not doing that to embarrassed players. They're doing it 576 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.639 because they feel like that's somebody that would be there and walk across the stage 577 00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.159 and be a part of the event. And he was there, but he 578 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.920 didn't get drafted. Every team in the NBA passed on this guy in a 579 00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:14.280 week draft where he was you know, again, there's other components to it, 580 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:20.679 but I mean, it makes it more believable that his older girlfriend was 581 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.920 a real red flag for teams because of how far he fell, And then 582 00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:28.960 when you figure out more information about the situation, it makes it even more 583 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.199 believable that the NBA was like, yeah, this guy's bad news, and 584 00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:38.039 again Utah drafting him. I mean, that's that again, as I said 585 00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:42.000 last week, the joke writes itself like she's Mormon, and you know, 586 00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:49.440 the Mormons essentially drafted him. So his parents and his brother. I don't 587 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.480 know if he has a sister or not, but family direct family, you 588 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:59.400 know, they they have made it clear that they blame her, his girlfriend, 589 00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.239 for him not really being a part of their life anymore. Like he's 590 00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:07.800 kind of cut them off and they're estranged, and the family blames her. 591 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:13.639 And I mean, he's twenty years old. I mean I feel like I 592 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.000 feel like that that is like, you know, that's if you're twenty years 593 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.719 old and you have a great, successful life. I mean, I feel 594 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:23.519 like you would need to be encouraged by somebody or maybe manipulated by somebody to 595 00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:28.199 you know, cut off your family because by all accounts, it seems like 596 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.920 things are going pretty well for you. And you can use the internet pretty 597 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:36.239 quickly and realize that Kyle Filapowski hasn't come from some tragic situation where this woman's 598 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:37.719 like saved his life. I mean, he's been a pretty seems like he's 599 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:44.679 been a guy that's been pretty privileged. So they also now the family blame 600 00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:50.760 Duke, Like they're being vocal about they tried to let Duke's basketball program. 601 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.480 I guess Shire and other people on the staff, people around the program know 602 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:59.719 they were concerned about this older girlfriend who may not be the best influence and 603 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.480 may have, uh, you know, maybe may just be looking to get 604 00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:07.639 rich off this guy. And they're upset because Duke didn't anything about it. 605 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:12.719 And that's what I don't really understand. Like, I'll make fun of Duke 606 00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.880 any chance I get. I mean, Duke is the villain in college basketball. 607 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.159 When Duke loses, we all win. Everybody else wins. But what 608 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.239 what do you want John Shyer to do? Like the girl and Philipowski were 609 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.519 already an item before he arrived at Duke. In fact, it sounds like 610 00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:31.320 before he committed the Duke I mean do you want I mean, like you 611 00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:35.639 want him to tell his player, you gotta cut off your you gotta dump 612 00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:37.199 your girlfriend because your parents like that. Think about how unusual that is, 613 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.920 like, have the unusualness to the situation. Although I'm sure he could sympathize 614 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.719 with them, Like expecting him to take any action is idiotic, Like what 615 00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.199 would he be able to do? And in fact, he'd probably have a 616 00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:53.440 good chance of you know, impacting the team dynamic. If if he did 617 00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.480 something like that and he wouldn't, like, it's just outrageous the more I 618 00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.000 think about it, that the family was expecting the coach to intervene. Now, 619 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:05.880 if he was encouraged to have Kyle Filapowski reach back out to his family, 620 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.440 that's a little different. But if he encouraged him and he still didn't 621 00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:10.000 want to do it, like I don't know what you want him to do, 622 00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:14.360 it sucks, but like they're not to blame. He's a grown up 623 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:16.559 now. He wasn't when they got together, which is what makes it weird 624 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.840 and really just gross if you think about it, especially knowing she used to 625 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.280 be the babysitter and she saw dollar signs when she saw this guy becoming a 626 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:30.000 phenom at the high school level, and now she's getting paid because you know, 627 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:34.639 have you Are they fire? They are they engaged? I feel like 628 00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.239 I don't remember for sure if she is, but I feel like I remember 629 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:38.679 seeing that as part of the story. I haven't seen the word fiance. 630 00:40:39.400 --> 00:40:42.800 Doesn't mean it's not out there. I just don't remember seeing it, which 631 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.599 which I think the situation is this he can't propose to her and then marry 632 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.599 her until until he's Mormon. Okay, Yeah, and she's she's trying to 633 00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:52.159 get him to convert to Mormon. And what if she made the call to 634 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:57.639 whoever's in charge of the Utah Jazz and told them to Diraff Philipowski obviously that 635 00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.440 that's just I'm saying that tongue in cheek. Would that be something? Yeah, 636 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.920 I mean it wouldn't. I mean, like, you wouldn't think they 637 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.960 would take that call and act on it. But then again, like apparently 638 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:13.480 John, she followed him to class every day. She lived on campus with 639 00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.239 him as a grown up, not a college kid, far removed from college. 640 00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:21.559 She'd graduated college before he entered college and had a career, and she 641 00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:25.679 lived with him on campus and followed him and like walked him to class. 642 00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:30.639 Like that's weird. It's weird as hell. And I don't know, I 643 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:34.519 haven't looked much into it, but like I bet Duke fans, if they're 644 00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.119 learning about this now getting more information, they're probably thinking, like, yeah, 645 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.559 that's probably why we weren't as good as we should have been, because 646 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:43.239 the Duke was fine, but they were pretty mid I feel like, I 647 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:45.159 mean, I didn't you know, and they especially to see you know, 648 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.679 they have talent every single year, but he regressed last year, still had 649 00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:51.559 a good year. I won't try to act like he was a bum, 650 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.159 but you know he was. Him coming back after his freshman season was a 651 00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:59.440 huge deal, and he still went on to average you know, sixteen and 652 00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.000 eight, which is it's pretty damn good. But it just you know, 653 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.280 he didn't at times play like an All American and he wasn't. He was 654 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:07.559 not an All American, which look, not everybody can be an All American. 655 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.760 But I just felt like, you know, even throughout the year, 656 00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:14.920 before knowing anything about his girlfriend and that whole dynamic, I just felt like, 657 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:16.360 yeah, he kind of didn't come back and be the guy everybody thought 658 00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:20.400 he was going to be. 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