WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:12.320 Be following is a presentation of play fly Sports properties. My guys, they're 2 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:33.920 trying to turn the goal line. What the hands pass shafto? Up here 3 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:58.200 comes the button? Now the sideline shown that that is not obviously you know, 4 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:03.039 Michigan State has their work cut out for them trying to stop a dynamic 5 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:08.599 quarterback in c. J. Stroud. But fellas, speaking of dynamic quarterbacks, 6 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:12.920 we got one on the show today. We don't bring on Drew Stanton, 7 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:21.719 Michigan State legend quarterback. How many years in the league? I mean, 8 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:25.560 man, I mean you're up there with Brady in then right about twelve, 9 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.000 I mean there he is right there, the man met the legend, 10 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:34.760 Drew Stanton. Welcome to the show, but welcome to disaspartment. Thanks man, 11 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:36.480 thanks for having me on. Guys, It's good to see your guys's 12 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:40.319 face. It's been way too long, too long. Right, last time 13 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:42.359 I saw you was at the last year's Michigan game and you had to bounce 14 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:47.239 early. Yeah, listen, I listened to the victory on the way home. 15 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:52.280 You know, I'm going to prioritize them by my days of gallivanting around 16 00:01:52.319 --> 00:02:06.200 east Lands and are over with. So how's things been going, Drew, 17 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:08.800 like, you know, you're a retired football player. Now you're hanging out 18 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:14.960 with the kids going to games. Yeah, you know, Arizona, I 19 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:19.039 made this home and I'm doing some radio stuff for the Cardinals, which has 20 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:22.520 been fun to kind of stay involved with the organization, be able to stay 21 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:24.639 involved with the NFL. So it's it's been fun. It's it's super low 22 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:29.960 key. It's something I really enjoyed that. I also started a podcast with 23 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:34.479 a former teamate of mine called The Bobbled Exchange with a Q. Shipley who 24 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:38.039 played at Penn State and then it was a teammate of mine out here. 25 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.439 So now we were just having some fun with it and seeing where it takes 26 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:45.360 us. Yeah, Drew, I know, you know, you and I 27 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:50.439 have been chatting up as you're making your way back to to East Lansing with 28 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:54.039 the family this for this weekend's game, and you know tell us about obviously 29 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:58.719 coming back home you were here obviously last last year, but you know you 30 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:00.240 get to come to East Lance and get back to home, you know, 31 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:05.039 talk about you know, the nostalgia and having you know, your family coming 32 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:07.879 back to see the green and white way used to wear it. Yeah, 33 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:12.080 no, this is a much different trip. So last year it just popped 34 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:15.400 up out of nowhere. I gotta paid experience. I gotta paid appearance to 35 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:21.080 come back so real quick, like the week of because I believe it was 36 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:24.479 a MasterCard with the big new kickoff. So that kind of was like, 37 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:28.000 can you make it the East Lanson. I was like, for that, 38 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:30.000 I can make it to East Lanson. So I was in and out. 39 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:36.080 This one is a little bit different because we're bringing the family back. We 40 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:39.240 knew it in advance. Our kids are off school Friday and Monday, and 41 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:43.560 so my wife and I wanted to have the opportunity to bring them back. 42 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.759 My sister in law still lives in the area, so being able to see 43 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:51.199 cousins, be able to do all that experience fall because it's still ninety de 44 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:53.400 Greece here in Arizona. So that it'll be special to be back in Spartan 45 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:58.919 Stadium because as you guys all know that, I'll forever hold a special place 46 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.439 in all of our hearts. Yeah, definitely, Drew. And let's go 47 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:05.759 back to your time at Michigan State, and you know you were a big 48 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:14.080 like personality within the locker room with your teammates guys were attracted to your leadership, 49 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:15.720 your work ethic and everything. You know, you were a quarterback, 50 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:18.480 your for you, you wanted to be on the field. You played special 51 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:21.519 teams as a quarterback. You know, not many people did that, and 52 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:25.879 you know, so you were the heart and soul and people followed you, 53 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.560 you know, and your work ethic, your you know, your attitude for 54 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:30.920 Michigan State. And we might not have had the wins that we wanted to 55 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:35.319 have. But what does you know being a spartan dog mean to you? 56 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:41.240 Well, I think it's just grit, right. It's the ability to push 57 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:46.000 past what's uh comfortable and live in the uncomfortable. Right. It's a it's 58 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.439 a mentality of saying, you know, whatever it takes to be able to 59 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:51.199 get the job done, I'm going to do it, and I'm going to 60 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:55.120 do it with the people next to me because I got to rely on them 61 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:58.160 and they're going to be able to rely on me. Comes thickers in and 62 00:04:58.279 --> 00:05:00.240 uh, you know that's something that that was way that I was raised, 63 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:02.759 right, that was ingrained and who I was. So when I showed up 64 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:05.920 to Michigan State and things weren't going the way that I would have hoped. 65 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:09.759 You know, I had to wait in line for Damon dot L and Stephen 66 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:12.759 Reeves to be able to get a shop to play quarterback. I just knew 67 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:15.000 when my time came, I wanted to make the most of it. And 68 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:17.920 you know, being able to be around some great men when I was there, 69 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:20.839 especially, and Manny is the one that probably poured into me more than 70 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:24.240 anybody of like, hey, when your opportunity comes, you never give it 71 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.120 up. And I was like, you know what, I got to be 72 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:29.759 prepared for the future, because when the future comes, you better be ready 73 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:30.879 to live in it. And that was some of the best advice that I 74 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:35.360 got when I was a young man growing up in my time there. You 75 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:39.600 know, you're talking about that, and you talked about grit and then being 76 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:44.040 able to bid for time to wait for your turn. So many guys go 77 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:48.639 into the NFL as quarterbacks and they get the sit into the role of backup 78 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:53.079 and then they just can't take it for whatever reason. They want to be 79 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:56.680 a starter, and they end up washing themselves out in the league earlier because 80 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:00.480 they're not willing to do what it takes in order to be ready for that 81 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:04.600 chance. Whenever the say the said starter goes down. You were able to 82 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:09.160 do that and transition into that very well, what is the difference, what's 83 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:14.000 making what makes that an easier transition for some than others. Well, I 84 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.240 think it's a learned trade, right. You have to be able to identify 85 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:18.879 what that is. Because when you're the starter in college, you get every 86 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:23.040 rep, you have the luxury of being able to see it and digest it 87 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:26.000 and do that. When you get to the NFL, there's such limited amount 88 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:29.160 of reps, as you guys know, so when you get to practice, 89 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:33.279 it's so much more mental and you find ways to engage and stay relevant with 90 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:38.720 what's going on. I mean, I remember, you know, one of 91 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:42.399 my best friends, I always became the offensive line coach because I wanted to 92 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:45.120 know what was going on. I wanted to be able to understand that because 93 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:48.240 blitz protection, all of those things are so vital to be able to survive 94 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:51.519 in the NFL. So it all starts and stops with that. And so 95 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:56.720 once I got a good handle on that and got into a routine, it 96 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:58.759 was really when I was in Detroit the first couple of years, I was 97 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:00.240 just flying by the seat of my pants and I was thrown out there and 98 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:04.199 didn't have much success and almost find myself out of the NFL before I even 99 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:09.439 got a chance to establish myself. And so Sean Hill came to Detroit, 100 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.600 UH showed me, Okay, this is what a Monday looks like, this 101 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:15.879 is what a Tuesday looks like, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. 102 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.120 And so you prepare and you prepare for this test you may never take. 103 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:20.879 And I didn't take it for four years in the NFL. But when my 104 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:25.160 opportunity came, much like I said at Michigan State, I was going to 105 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.839 everything in my power to make sure that I was going to show, hey, 106 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:30.800 this guy belongs here, and not only is he great in the locker 107 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:33.360 room, not only does he do all these other things, he can help 108 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:36.319 us go win football games, because ultimately that's how you are measured in the 109 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:42.600 NFL. Absolutely, I mean, dude, I mean my recruiting trip. 110 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:46.000 You know I was introduced to you, right, I'm not going to throw 111 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:49.519 our skeletons out there, but you know, when I saw you playing, 112 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:55.759 you know, I learned quickly of like, do whatever it takes, do 113 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:59.839 whatever it takes. And so when I'm on the defensive side, I knew 114 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:03.279 that we got a three and out, that Drew was going to go out 115 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:05.439 there and do all that he could to get that first down to keep the 116 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.560 change moving. You know, you've been watching him from afar right. What's 117 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:15.279 happening right now with our quarterback? You know, Peyton Thorn had a hell 118 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:18.079 of a year last year coming into this year. You know, a lot 119 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:22.040 of a lot of eyes on them, a lot of things happening, and 120 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:26.360 then it's not going as planned. But kind of take us through a quarterback's 121 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.439 mind of what he may be dealing with, but also hearing the noise about, 122 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.519 you know, the guy that's behind him that they want to give a 123 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:37.320 chance to talk to us about that. Yeah, I mean, everybody loves 124 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:39.440 the backup when the start of struggling, right, I mean, that's not 125 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.879 what I was there, right. I didn't have a great senior year. 126 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:46.120 I was dealing with some injuries and dealing with some other stuff and just didn't 127 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:48.759 play up to the level of an expectation that we wanted to. Even though 128 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:52.320 we're got points on the board and trying to be successful, we just weren't 129 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.120 winning football games. And so it's hard because when you are a leader and 130 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:01.039 you try and just steady the ship and stay the course, your confidence starts 131 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:05.919 to get a little flustered. And you can see that with Peyton. You 132 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.879 can see the way that he operated last year and how as Jay you talked 133 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.240 about, right, when you're a quarterback, one of the most important things 134 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.840 is when you step in that huddle. Is the ten other guys believe that 135 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:20.080 you're going to go down and get a touchdown, that you're going to be 136 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:24.039 able to lead this team that no lead is insurmountable to come back from, 137 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:26.840 right. And I think right now, what you're seeing is a guy that's 138 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.159 starting to question himself. Honestly. I mean, if we're being completely candid, 139 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:33.080 is he's like, I know I can do it. I just have 140 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.639 to go out and do it. And it's almost like you're forcing it, 141 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.039 where last year he just let things come to him. He looked like the 142 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.679 guy that was going to be able to go on to the NFL and do 143 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.120 all of these things. And the level of expectation then the bar set's that 144 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:48.759 much higher, right, Like you've got to be able to answer that bell. 145 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.440 And unfortunately he hasn't done it yet for many reasons. You know, 146 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:58.440 the quarterback's best friend's run game. And when you don't have a run game, 147 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.720 when you don't have Kenneth Walker. I mean, you said I was 148 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:05.960 at that Michigan game, right, I saw what Kenneth Walker's to that defense, 149 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.840 right, and so respectfully, so he goes in the second round. 150 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.639 This is still early in the season. They're still trying to figure themselves out 151 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:18.759 and their identity and all these things. You feel bad for it because of 152 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.679 what he's going through and all of that. At the same time, this 153 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:26.080 is a results based business. I don't know him personally, but there's a 154 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:30.559 whole lot of money with nil and blah blah blah and all this other I 155 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:33.960 mean, all of the pressures that exist now versus I was there. I 156 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.000 was just trying to, you know, get an education, have fun, 157 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:41.440 you know, do everything I could to put myself in a position to go 158 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:46.799 to the NFL. Realizing there's only ninety six jobs that existed in that workplace. 159 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:50.679 Now all these kids are jumping ship and transferring and doing all these other 160 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:56.639 things. When adversity like strikes at all, the first chance they get, 161 00:10:56.679 --> 00:10:58.919 they're going. So you know, I'm rooting for BT and I still think 162 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.879 that he has everything capable to lead this team. It's just you see that 163 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:07.159 confidence start to teeter a little bit. I mean you see it in too, 164 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:11.320 right, Like guys to your point when like they got to the point 165 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:13.399 where guys would go out there if you're not successful as a backup, your 166 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:18.639 confidence gone, they move on. And being around some of the most confident 167 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:24.720 best players in the NFL around Larry Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson and Reggie Way and 168 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:30.039 Andrew Matthew Stafford, Carson Palmer, you even saw with them at times, 169 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:33.759 right, And so there is some of that that goes into all of it. 170 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.519 And I kind of coined this phrase myself. The confidence is the most 171 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:39.720 important thing to have when you step foot on that field, but it's the 172 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:43.000 easiest thing to lose and the hardest thing to get back. And I dealt 173 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.159 with that. I lived that right, and so I'm sure you guys can 174 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:48.279 all attest to that in time in your career. It is how you deal 175 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.559 with that adversity and say, Okay, like enough's enough. You've got to 176 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.159 find your own way to be able to combat that and go out there. 177 00:11:56.279 --> 00:12:00.399 And it's just tough when all the eyes are on you. True you know, 178 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.840 go ahead, Jay now now you you sound like you had a good 179 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.080 question. I was just gonna just you know, let's get into the fun 180 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:15.360 stuff there before the fund the party. Now I'm gonna take you back. 181 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:18.679 Do you know happen to know Frank Reich at all? Yeah? Yes, 182 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:24.320 I do. You do? So do you and him ever talk about the 183 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:28.200 record he had that you now have? We have not talked about that. 184 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:35.120 Well, he also was the NFL record he does for the comeback. Yeah, 185 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:37.919 so this is which is incredible. I'm talking about. It was two 186 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.360 thousand and six in Northwestern. Yeah, yeah, on the road. What 187 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:50.679 was it? Thirty five to three? Northwestern by that much? As well, 188 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.799 Drew before you ask confidence talk about getting those other ten guys to believe 189 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:58.120 that you can do this. I mean, I remember Stotland giving this great 190 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:03.000 halftime speech. I was a sideline reporter at that time. Stoutlan you know, 191 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:07.559 oh yeah Philadelphia. Now he's a legendary old line coach, and I'm 192 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:09.279 just like, man, I mean, he made me believe that the team 193 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.320 could come back. But I'm like, but coach, you're not playing quarterback 194 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.480 and or blocking anybody out there, by the way, and you were able 195 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:20.159 to do that in that moment like that was an incredible comeback. Obviously something 196 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.120 that you know, it's in the NCAA record books. Now, did that 197 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.840 had like talk about that moment and did that kept catapulture of confidence as you're 198 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:31.320 talking about right now? No, listen, wait wait, Drew, wait, 199 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:39.679 wait before talk about the halftime speech. Do you remember there's no let 200 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:41.600 us know about that. I remember it because I was like, one, 201 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:46.519 yeah, the halftime speech that you gave through Yeah that Drew gave. Yeah, 202 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.840 Look that's a long time ago. Yeah, I'm on defense, and 203 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:56.519 clearly it's my fault. Right we got getting scored on right, Uh Drew. 204 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:01.279 Drew goes in there and says we're not getting on that bus or that 205 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:05.000 plane and going back to East Lanson and if we if we lose the game, 206 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.679 and I looked at everybody else. I was like, man, I 207 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:13.480 don't know what the hell Drew talking about? Right now? Do what's going 208 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:24.000 on? Drew was Drew was famous for pre game It was like what I 209 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.960 So, I'll let you answer the question. But I got a great pregame 210 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:31.320 speech that Drew gave before we played Michigan in the Big House. The blu 211 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:43.120 box. That didn't work either. Guys, do you remember this speech that 212 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:46.679 they're talking about in Northwestern? Do you remember that? Man, I don't 213 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:48.720 know. I think I just finally got to the point where like, man, 214 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:52.320 well this is Northwestern. What are we doing right now? I'm looking 215 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:54.759 at it, and I'm like, we're getting absolutely annihilated. Nobody wanted to 216 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.639 play like it was just a sleepy environment. And so to that point, 217 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:03.080 right, I think I was just so mad that I was like, I'm 218 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.440 not going out like this. This is not how the rest of the course 219 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:09.840 of this season is going to go. Uh. And so I remember I 220 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:13.559 came out a halftime and I'm like, this is about to change. First 221 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:18.919 pass pick. So then I was like, Okay, that didn't work Plan 222 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.759 B. So you you rewind it back and it's like, we're down by 223 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:26.440 thirty five points. We need to do everything we can to try and win 224 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:30.639 a football game one play at a time. And as cliche is that sound, 225 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:33.879 that's what it took because then all of a sudden we started getting them 226 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:35.200 on their heels a little bit. Right, We go no huddle and we 227 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:37.919 are just going up and down the field and we start scoring points. Then 228 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.480 all of a sudden, you know they're going into score and Caleb Thornhill gets 229 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:46.080 an interception in the red zone, huge turnover. Okay, also were going 230 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:50.519 down. Then we get a block punt? Was it Ashton Henderson for Tivin 231 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.679 Thomas blocked? So all of a sudden it started seeing and you see this 232 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.559 doubt creep in, and then they've got this patch on the side. For 233 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:03.519 whatever reason, I got shelved in there. Yeah, I didn't know what 234 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.840 happened to me. My shoulder felt like it came out and I was like, 235 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:11.519 right my feet, I was like, whoa, I didn't even stop 236 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:21.159 you. Yeah, I had jump. This isn't happening. This is not 237 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:25.679 happening. So we came back and again that's also the beauty of playing in 238 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:27.679 this position, but also what comes with the territory. When things go right, 239 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:32.320 everybody remembers me as the one that won the game. I didn't do 240 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:36.080 nearly as much as everybody else did. And when things go bad, everybody 241 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:37.960 looks at quarterback there too, So it's like you've got to be able to 242 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:41.879 shoulder all of that blame. John Lewandowski did a great job of helping me 243 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:47.039 portray the media and sometimes I know those people, you got to throw your 244 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:48.879 offens alignment under the bus you're doing anything like this, you know, like 245 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:52.840 we go down to the horseshoe and we are putting it on them, right, 246 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:57.799 we are absolutely putting it on them. And then I remember, you 247 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:00.399 know, I think I got sacked twelve times that game. I mean, 248 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:04.000 I guess all guys that played in the NFL, I rushed for over one 249 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:07.880 hundred yards, but with college stats, I ended up with like negative. 250 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:14.480 But by the time include and I've never been more sore, and all the 251 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:18.880 offensive linemen sat in first class and Peter Clifford came up to be they take 252 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:23.839 my like I played awful today, horrible, and I was like out of 253 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:26.160 here. I was like, did you try your best? That was all 254 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:30.400 I used to tell guys, Like all I want is just you give me 255 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.720 everything you got. I'm gonna give it the same way back to you and 256 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:37.680 we'll see what happens. And that's what happened in that game is everybody just 257 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:41.079 bought in for that second half and it just became a special time in Evanston. 258 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:48.440 That still stands as the largest record. That's just crazy. And you 259 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:51.759 know, like like Drew talked about, you know, a quarterback's best friends 260 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:55.799 to run game, but a running back's best friend is the quarterback next to 261 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:59.720 him. There are times where you're running back and you're in the backfield and 262 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.920 protection, you could lose it a little bit. Where's the mic? Where's 263 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:08.400 d Drew? Who do I got? Who do I? So not only 264 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:15.440 does he not only does he have to know, he have to you know, 265 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.039 identify the front, plunk out the mic, assess the top, you 266 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:21.759 know, look at everything. He's in the back. You're telling them running 267 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:23.079 hey, hey, hey, what rue do I got? What? Right? 268 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:29.720 Do I got an arrow route? Okaytch not coming, don't work, 269 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:34.839 Get out in your rope, go go go. So my first start was 270 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:40.640 against Norre Dame and we practice all week long. Zebra thirty two, the 271 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:45.839 first placer scripted the first eight Zebra thirty two. We get on the field 272 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.640 at nor Dame. We huddle on the sideline before and I'm too cool for 273 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.880 school. First start. I'm looking all over the place because we were on 274 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:56.240 the right hashle. It was flipped. It was Zebra thirty three. We 275 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:59.000 get in there, green eighteen green, since that hit boom, I go 276 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:03.039 right, Drew turns left for thirty and I see his eyes get this big 277 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:10.359 right then and there he gets sacked for twelve yards, and it's like like 278 00:19:10.480 --> 00:19:14.359 everything as a running back now, Like the thing everybody knows is you don't 279 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:18.440 hit the quarterback as a defensive player in practice, and you don't give up 280 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.720 a sack as a running back or alignment. So everything drains out of my 281 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:26.720 body and we bang a time out so I can get yelled at the first 282 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:32.240 play of the game. But you know, Captain Charisma Drew got us back, 283 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:33.960 stared us right, and we ended up winning that game in overtime, 284 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:41.079 the flag plant game. So but you know, just great times, great 285 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:47.279 great times. The really cool thing drew your NFL career. You know, 286 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:49.480 you play for different people, and this is the thing that people to understand. 287 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:53.519 It's that relationship that you build in the NFL with coaches, with former 288 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:59.759 players and everything that can propel you to whatever you do next. So you 289 00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:06.559 had retired, right, and and then it was like week what thirteen or 290 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:10.880 so the Bucks pull you in and so this was Christmas Eve morning. This 291 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:19.759 was like week sixteen of seventeen. Like you're out the entire like sea given 292 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:22.160 a no thought like, yeah, So I get a call from BA and 293 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.400 he was like hey, true. He's like, uh, what's up kid? 294 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:29.440 He never calls me. Usually he'll send me like a like some like 295 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:34.200 emoji cocktail or something like you know, like like that. So I missed 296 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:38.319 the call from him, and I knew that Josh Rosen had signed with San 297 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.119 Francisco off their practice squad. So we're sitting there, He's like, hey, 298 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:44.000 how about you want to come down here and like help us on a 299 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:47.759 Super Bowl? And I was like, oh. I was like, I 300 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:49.839 haven't thrown a football. I haven't thought about throwing a football. I haven't 301 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:53.480 put a helmet on, put cleats on, nothing. He's like, who 302 00:20:53.480 --> 00:21:00.519 cares, Just come on down. My wife and my kids are good with 303 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.599 it. But I was like, they're playing so good right now, right 304 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:06.359 like, they are playing so good. And he was like, just you 305 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:10.400 know, take Christmas, stay at home with the family, and then come 306 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:12.799 down here and help us try and win. I was like that sounds like 307 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:15.240 a heck of a gig. I mean, go down, but all of 308 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:19.319 it. So in my mind, worst case scenario, two weeks down there, 309 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:23.640 get a little extra practice squad money, and then six weeks. I 310 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:26.240 went a Super Bowl and got a ring which is sitting right over there. 311 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:37.680 Put the ring on the camera. And the cool thing about that story is 312 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:45.480 the guy that you mentored at Michigan State. Oh that's nice, that's a 313 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:53.519 chip m M. Yeah listening. So the cool thing is a guy at 314 00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:57.920 Michigan State that you mentored, John Van Dam as a quarterback there. He's 315 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:03.759 on the coaching staff in Tampa. How was that reunion. I don't know 316 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:11.279 if I mentored him or harassed him, you know, but it was really 317 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:15.839 cool moment for me to be able to see him. You guys know him 318 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:21.599 and just I mean, he literally bleeds green and gave everything to that university 319 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:23.720 and wanted and jump right into coaching, and now he's doing it at the 320 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:30.599 highest level. He is so well respected amongst everybody in that building, Tom 321 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:34.039 Brady. Everybody respects him so much because they see the work that he does. 322 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:40.279 Again, he has that mentality of a spartan and what that encompasses and 323 00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:42.799 everything and how he goes about his business. So I'm super happy for him. 324 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:45.720 I'm more excited for to see what the future holds for him, because 325 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:51.720 it's going to be really bright, right so you just said his name. 326 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:59.599 You know, everybody wants to know what makes Tom Brady tom Brady. Well, 327 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:03.960 I think anybody that's been around him or has been around the NFL that 328 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:08.880 you know, here's people talking over there, he's exactly as you would imagine, 329 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:11.119 is exactly what you see on TV. I mean, he is so 330 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.279 calculated with everything that he does. He is so precise with everything that he 331 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:22.039 does. So he's you know, he's the saying of like chests and checkers, 332 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:23.519 like he is playing chess with everybody else. When we're sitting there trying 333 00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:27.279 to figure he's not just one step ahead everybody else, he's two three steps 334 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:30.319 ahead everybody else. He takes such good care of his body. He's so 335 00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:36.200 meticulous in his preparation. The thing that shocked me more than anything is how 336 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:41.039 inclusive he was, especially for somebody like myself that got down there as late 337 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:45.079 as I did. He is about the group and the collective whole and the 338 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:49.079 strength of the pack, and I mean the game plans and everything else that 339 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:52.400 where he wanted guys feedbacks and he wanted to be able to think what was 340 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:56.559 going on or different views or all that stuff. I mean, we would 341 00:23:56.559 --> 00:23:59.720 sit in there tirelessly and talk about things, talk through coverages, talk through 342 00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:04.599 play changed stuff, edit it because the quarterback has so much control and a 343 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:10.279 Bruce arians Byron left which type of system that a lot of the onus is 344 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:12.000 on the quarterback to feel comfortable and he's only going to call plays at the 345 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:15.920 quarterback feels comfortable with. So to be able to be an extra set of 346 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.359 eyes and ears in that room, to be able to be a part of 347 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:21.960 that, I mean, we literally went into the Super Bowl saying, no 348 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:26.480 matter what Kansas City does to us, we've got a different plan BC or 349 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.319 D we could go to that will negate anything they're trying to do. And 350 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.720 I was like, this is a bulletproof game plan in the Super Bowl and 351 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:37.160 I've never seen something like it. And he went out and he executed it 352 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:41.960 to a t. Obviously, the defense played at a high level and really 353 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:48.640 held Patrick at bay when people weren't doing that. So it was neat just 354 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:51.599 to be around that, to be reassured of all those things, and you 355 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:55.039 see the way Tom works, the way he interacts with people. I mean, 356 00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:57.119 it was a really special six weeks for maybe to be able to be 357 00:24:57.160 --> 00:25:02.920 down there. Definitely well, Drew, I mean, you're this is our 358 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:07.640 Wednesday kind of preview of the weekend, right, so you know we're playing 359 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:14.079 the buck guys at home. We asked hearing brothers kind of what is it 360 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:17.599 going to take for the Spartans to turn the tide and get into the win 361 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:22.839 column? But what is it going to take to beat the buck guys this 362 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:26.720 weekend? Hey, you guys are trying to set me up right now? 363 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:32.400 Hey, hey, look we're this is transferent, this is open honesty here. 364 00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:37.200 Man. It's gonna take Peyton Thorn of last year. It's gonna take 365 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.599 a confidence of guys buying into it and just stay in the course, right 366 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:47.759 Like a football is a game of controlling what you can control, and it's 367 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:52.400 about turnovers and about getting after the quarterback all those things. Ohio State is 368 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.440 a super talented team. They can do a lot of things. But Michigan 369 00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:00.759 State and the leadership they have there needs to step up. And right now 370 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:03.400 there's adversity. They are at a crossroad of which way their season is going 371 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:07.079 to go. They got their hands full this weekend an East Lancing and so, 372 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:15.319 uh yeah, in order to land in college, your quarterback has to 373 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:21.160 be playing well and Peyton hasn't lived up to those expectations yet, but he's 374 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:22.960 very capable of it. Maybe he needs a halftime speech like I had a 375 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:30.039 Northwestern There you go, let's break a boombox, man. It might it 376 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:40.799 might have CD players anymore. Anyways, awesome, awesome man. Listen. 377 00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:44.480 I appreciate you, man, because I know you are extremely busy but the 378 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:48.359 family and doing stuff and obviously you coming this weekend and we can't wait to 379 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.240 hug it up. Man, wap it up. It's been a long time 380 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.440 since I've seen you. I know. You know, before we give you 381 00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.799 let you go, you know you're very heavily in the foundation piece of it, 382 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.200 and so we were all part of your high five foundation, and I 383 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.400 guess talk talk to us about, you know, what you're doing now in 384 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:14.279 the community standpoint in Arizona, but also back here because you maintained that connectivity 385 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.400 in the community here, which a lot of people haven't done that. So 386 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:19.920 talk about that real quick before we kind of let you go. Yeah, 387 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:22.680 I mean, it dates all the way back to when I was at Michigan 388 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:26.920 State, right with the community outreach program that they had in place there and 389 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:30.079 blown away by just the impact you can have of being able to put on 390 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:34.519 a jersey and go sign an autograph or take a picture and really, like, 391 00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:38.440 you know, being able to deal with the youth and shed light and 392 00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:42.319 bring joy and hope in some dim dark places at times. Right you go 393 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.599 to a hospital or you go to kids with special needs that might get teased 394 00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:49.200 or anything like that, and when you can bring a smile on their face, 395 00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:52.240 you realize how impactful you can be. So when I got drafted by 396 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:56.480 the Detroit Lions, I started the High five Foundation all the way back in 397 00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.559 two thousand and seven, and as I jumped around different teams in different places 398 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:04.079 in the NFL, we had stuff, but I always knew Michigan State was 399 00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:07.680 going to be my home. I was always going to be a part of 400 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.119 that community. So starting the High five golf outing as we have every single 401 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.000 year has been tremendous. We raised over a million dollars for the causes that 402 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.359 we support. It's been great to be able to have my name attached to 403 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:22.759 that from that standpoint, and then this year we even took it to a 404 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.599 different level of honoring George Purlis. We merged with his golf outing that was 405 00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:30.880 at Lansing Country Club or Country Club of Lancing, and Coach Tucker was the 406 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.519 honorary chair and he took that thing over and made it really really special. 407 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.480 We raised an enormous amount of funds, and again, I've always tried to 408 00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.240 do community based events that's going to bring people together and raise awareness for the 409 00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:44.799 causes we believe in. And then if you believe in it and you love 410 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.279 it, then I want you to donate money. I personally donate to these 411 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:53.000 causes because you see a direct impact for Special Olympics of Michigan, for Children's 412 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.960 Miracle Network in Spara Hospital, the hospital I was actually born in. So 413 00:28:56.519 --> 00:29:00.440 it's really unique to be able to continue to have a footprint in the city 414 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:07.880 that impacted my life and shaped who I was and continue to be and will 415 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.039 continually give back to that. So, uh, you know, it's something 416 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.440 that we always push the envelope because there's so many great causes, but I've 417 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.279 always tried to stay ahead of the curve, and having Coach Tucker a part 418 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:25.640 of it really allowed us to take it to that next level. I always 419 00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:30.519 love and enjoying golf too, so appreciate Yeah, well, used the worst 420 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:36.640 golfer here guaranteed. So no, I'm not. I'm not. I put 421 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:44.279 some bread on it because no, I'm not the worst, the worst. 422 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.359 I don't think that's you have no idea. I think it might be the 423 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:53.720 worst. He's not saying nothing. I'm a lefty man. I'm surprised you 424 00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:59.440 my brother. You see, let's get them sticks out then, yeah, 425 00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:04.519 the way one way to settle it. Yeah, I appreciate you, Drew 426 00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.160 Man. Thank you for your time. Man, this is great. It's 427 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.319 been great, and we're gonna see you this weekend. Right, yep, 428 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:11.960 we'll see you all this weekend. It's uh, it's long overdue, but 429 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.440 I'm looking forward to Thanks for having me on guys. It's it's always a 430 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:21.000 blasting you guys. Face. Definitely interesting man, great interview for Spartan legend, 431 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:22.960 Drew Stanton. I mean, jay U, you got all the fun, 432 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:26.359 you know, all that kind of stuff. Otis is getting into the 433 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:32.720 real like heart of the issues. And then you know, Drew what a 434 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:34.599 professional little man. I mean, he's just great. That guy. You 435 00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:41.119 can tell he's a polished quarterback NFL level. Yeah, you know something you 436 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.039 know, off the football side of things. He talked about his foundation and 437 00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.400 you know, just giving back to his foundation, giving back to you know, 438 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:51.759 special needs, giving back to kids in hospitals and everything like that. 439 00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:56.440 The person that Drew is going into the hospitals, going into you know, 440 00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:59.400 different events and stuff like that, that's the same person that he was in 441 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.839 the locker room. He that guy would give us the shirt off his back 442 00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:07.000 to any one of his teammates anytime on there. That's how I remember Drew 443 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.200 so great, dude. You know what, all his accolades that he has 444 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:15.200 on the field well deserved. And you know, the life that he has 445 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.839 built for himself, everything's well deserved. He's a great football player, but 446 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:25.200 a better person. That's right, well said Ju. And so as we 447 00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:30.960 put a boat on this episode, otis any final words for this weekends? 448 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:34.920 Perform our game against Ohio State for Michigan State. Yeah. You know Drew 449 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:40.440 talked about you know, this is that time for Peyton to to turn the 450 00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:44.599 time man and uh. But most importantly, we got to get our secondary 451 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:49.599 and our linebackers clicking on all cylinders. And it's all about knowing doing your 452 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.680 job, doing and having the role that you you've been training for this whole 453 00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:59.440 week and preparing for We know that they their office is going to score points, 454 00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:01.880 but it's how about we control what we can control. And I just 455 00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:07.359 want to see pressure. I want to see energy and just have bringing that 456 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.480 electricity back that we saw last year from from the tire, uh, you 457 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:15.839 know, defensive defensive side. And so I'm looking for our secondary to truly 458 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:20.039 get some three and outs so that we could give Peyton some more opportunities to 459 00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:23.440 chew, to get in the rhythm. And then obviously our boy Elijah Collins 460 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:28.559 man like feed the beast man. Let's get them going. And I'm ready 461 00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:35.119 to see see some see something happen, all right, I mean I'm looking 462 00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.279 to see something happen to ju. I mean you've you've said a lot. 463 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:42.039 Do you have anything else? Yeah? I got some peak. Can you 464 00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:45.680 give me a single shot? Thank you? All right? My My thing 465 00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:50.519 is this, My thing is to Spartan nation, Spartan fans, all right. 466 00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:54.559 I'm seeing all this stuff here on social media, people selling their tickets, 467 00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:58.960 people giving away their tickets. If you want to do that, that's 468 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.799 on you. I can't stop you from doing that, all right, But 469 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:08.680 Spartans stick together, Spartan's ride together. If you ever utter the words Spartan 470 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:13.359 dog, you will be there. If you can cheering on these guys. 471 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.640 That's what it takes. There's nothing worse for a player, and I have 472 00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:21.240 to live through it. Otis had to live through it. You come out 473 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:25.160 the tunnel at your own stadium and you see a sea of red because Ohio 474 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:34.279 State invaded the statum because you Spartan faithfuls sold your tickets. Nothing worse than 475 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.839 that. These guys are going out there, are busting their ass to give 476 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:43.920 everything that they can to this university, to us fans. We're not Spartans 477 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.920 when the tide is high, when we're on the rise. We're Spartans when 478 00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:51.279 it's low, when it's medium, and when it's high, Spartan Nation, 479 00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:55.680 you have to come together and show out on Saturday. That is on. 480 00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:00.839 You give the players energies to feed off, and that energy give them to 481 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.079 feed off. They will give you something to cheer for. Spartan Nation. 482 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:15.199 We need you. That's it. Wow. Wow that whenever that was serious, 483 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:22.440 that was definitely hot. Boy. You're right, you're right, and 484 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:27.960 you're absolutely right with that. There's nothing worse than coming out of the you. 485 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.880 I mean, we we saw that. I mean we had a decent 486 00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:36.159 we were we were a great record when we played them my senior year and 487 00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.440 they came in and it was I mean it was legit like half and half. 488 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.880 Yeah, you know you need you need the electricity, you need that 489 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.840 momentum swing and you know we're competing. We had, we had Hoyer, 490 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.960 we had you know, Devin, we had the squad to get the job 491 00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:57.119 done. But like you said, this, you don't want to see that 492 00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.800 happening. It's almost like it's almost like your parents are and gave up on 493 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.320 you, right right, it said to kick you out and said never come 494 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.039 back again. Like it feels that type of way sometimes. And so also 495 00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:12.760 to be honest, like it was you blocked out the noise and you said, 496 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:16.480 regardless, whoever's here, I appreciate you, right, I appreciate you 497 00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:21.719 student section, whoever came, those faithful stayed in the range, sleek snow, 498 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.920 I appreciate you because that's when we know who our truest companions are and 499 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.480 our fans. Well, I'll take it a step further, Jason, your 500 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:35.719 kid's a four star athlete right now at IMG Academy. All right, a 501 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:39.079 bunch of college offers this weekend. We're gonna have a ton of recruits coming 502 00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:45.320 in. If your kid came into Michigan State for a home game on ABC 503 00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:50.400 against Ohio State and they see the stadium as half full of red, do 504 00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:52.559 you think those guys are gonna they're gonna want to come to Michigan State. 505 00:35:53.880 --> 00:36:00.119 Man. The reason that you know you you are doing this is not only 506 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.599 for the present, right, You gotta have some pride in the past. 507 00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:07.920 You got to cheer for the guys who are on the field presently, but 508 00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:12.400 then in college more importantly, you gotta be talking about the future. Because, 509 00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.960 yes, this is going to be a huge recruiting weekend for Michigan State. 510 00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:21.079 One of my son's teammates who is a commit is going to be there 511 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.159 in attendance, and as we know it, you know, until that ain't 512 00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:30.280 dries man, there's nothing in stone, right, So you want to show 513 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:35.920 those young players, those young prospects, hey, like, this is the 514 00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.119 place that you want to be. I don't care if we're down, if 515 00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:42.320 we're having a bad season. We had a rough couple of weeks. We 516 00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:46.840 are here for you. This means everything when you talk about those big time 517 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:52.559 fan bases around the country that Mel Tucker is really doing a phenomenal job of 518 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.440 trying to get the Spartans to believe that they are. Well, if you 519 00:36:55.519 --> 00:37:00.559 really want to be that, then this is what you gotta do the bad 520 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.400 times. You got to show up, you gotta show out, and you 521 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:07.280 gotta get and scream and be behind that team because the guys and youngsters are 522 00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.119 watching. You know, you want these get this team to be better and 523 00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:14.840 be a team that can go into Columbus and pound Ohio State in the future, 524 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.920 then you got to be there this weekend. What Jayu said is absolutely 525 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.880 right, and you know, for more than just the reasons of this week, 526 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:28.760 it's for the future as well. Who was said Luther that said I 527 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:35.480 rather have bad times with you and good times for someone else. Well, 528 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:40.239 let's let Luther keep doing that. We gonna have to hit a button so 529 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:45.639 that he can see it. How about that? You know, so I 530 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:46.639 thought I was like, man, I want to say this, Do I 531 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:50.079 say it? Or do I say it? And then it just came out. 532 00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.920 You know, you lost show time, man, But look, hey, 533 00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:00.960 no phenomenal show, great interviews today. You know, we look forward 534 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:08.719 to another breakdown of what happened at the Ohio State game in the Woodshed next 535 00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:12.920 week when we catch back up. But you know, looking forward to this 536 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:17.559 weekend, fellas. It's great seeing you guys for my co host Otis Wiley 537 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.920 and jay U Chuchu Couch. I'm Jason Straehorn. This is Sparta. Have 538 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:32.159 a good night, God blessed and go great, go right. Had that 539 00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:37.320 time my bad? You know how put the time