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What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to episode one fifty of Clips

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and Dip. We've made it this
far, Tomayer as Arlie is here to

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ring in whatever the name is for
a century and a half. I'm Chuck

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Mockler joined with Adam Oslin and William
Updyke. We know that those guys are

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doing well. Tomayer of Clutch points
fame. Thank you for joining us.

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How's your off season? We know
you're in Denver right now, obviously getting

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ripped. What's how's life? I
mean, now that I see that Will

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is blonde, it's a lot better. Yeah, oh yeah, and Will

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has new hair. Yeah I didn't. I didn't know that, but I

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like to look though. I like
to look Will. I dig it.

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It's very nice. I'm going saying
it's a super stand one or two.

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What are you doing here? Oh
too? Okay? All right? Um,

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No, offously has been good,
man been Uh. I don't want

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to see busy because it's just been
some some social stuff there was obviously,

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don't really give us anything to talk
about. Sure, um so in some

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sense it's almost cool that we have
an off season and just not really having

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to worry about anything. But um, I think, you know, for

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me, I kind of knew the
finals is gonna be something that I was

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going to cover, So, um, did you know anything there? Yeah?

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Oh, hey man, average here. I was really just curious to

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see who the finals seams were gonna
because it looked like we're gonna be it.

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Literally, it was gonna be Denver
in Miami for so long, m

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like a week a week off everyone
would have time to plan our trips,

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and then Boston just Boston in mind
be kind of messed around, and thirty

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six hours before media Day we found
out. So it's been kind of wild,

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but it's been fun. It's been
fun. It's been all good so

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far. Fantastic. Well, thank
you for joining us. Amidst the craziness,

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we're gonna be talking some Clippers culture
stuff, what we're expecting from the

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off season, as well as one
particular draft person who Lawrence Frank was watching.

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But I want to open this up
since we just briefly talked about it

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and ask Will and Adam this.
There's been a lot of talk about like

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heat culture lately. It's the one
thing they seem to have really figured out

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since they've been a franchise. I
asked Clippers Twitter if Clippers have a culture?

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There's some fantastic responses over at Clippers
Pod, but will what is the

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Clippers culture? Do we have one? Is it just a bunch of guys

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playing basketball together who met in the
parking lot before? Where are you at?

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On? If the Clippers have a
culture? Wait and see? I

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think it is pretty much the Clippers
culture, how they approached the regular season,

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the news that we get whenever there's
an injury, and and I mean

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with this year, with free agency
and not kind of knowing even like who

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are who are starting point guard could
be for the twenty three twenty four season.

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I think wait and see has got
to be kind of the motto for

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the Clippers. That hurts because it's
very accurate. Adam, what is GM

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more positive take? Or I didn't
feel pretty fair? SLC Punk's not holding

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back on this one. I love
it. It's a good look. It

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looks like Billy Joe Armstrong from Green
Dair sothing like he looks good. I

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like the hair. It breaks me
back to my days when I used to

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dye my hair just on the tips, blowde like I was Alex Todriguez back

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and oho that's who you were trying
to. It's quite a compa. These

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are on YouTube. If you want
to see Will's fantastic hair, check it

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out on YouTube. Um but Adam, back to the series talk now that

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you're doing joshing around. I guess
it's a fluid situation at the moment with

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Clippers culture. But I'm reminded of
our first ever podcast on Clips and Dipp.

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Didn't we call it the C word? Weren't we talking about culture then

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coming into the season, and that
the Clippers seem to have a culture of

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being a tough minded, high character
team with a lot of switchability. That's

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what we thought it was going to
be this year. Now, I don't

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even reason Tank exposed how exactly you
define the Miami Heat culture. People talk

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about it a lot, but it
seems pretty vague or pretty general, And

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some of the stuff I just said
for the Clippers could be said for them

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as well. What's the Denver Nuggets
culture? What has been other championship teams

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culture? What was the Toronto Raptors
culture when they had Kawhi. I think

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a lot of it is a little
bit overblown. It's just well, we

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won, so that means we have
a good culture here. Okay, could

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you get a little bit more specific? Maybe it's culture, dude, what

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don't you understand? Don't marriage?
So I actually disagreed that. Yeah,

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I don't think you can say that
about You can say that about Miami.

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They just they won three series they
were not supposed to win. And what's

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the culture? Well, I'm saying
what is their culture? Their culture is

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no matter who's coming in there,
drafted, undrafted, high pig, little

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pig there, they're bringing in everything. They've been to three out of the

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last four Eastern Conference finals. They've
been good. But like, what is

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the characteristic? What is the trait? They're tough? Is that it Jimmy

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Butler stuff and they got a bunch
of like resilient guys. I think it's

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a collective collective toughness. Um the
coach obviously, um, a guy who

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I think started from the ground up, I would say, really, you

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know, and had the backing of
a pat Riley. I think all that

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kind of just um, you know, put in little bits and pieces and

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it creates a culture. I think, Look, if if we want to

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joke around about about the Clippers,
of course we can all just throw in

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the Peter Griffin grabbing his knee and
just saying whatever it was. Um,

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I don't think the Clippers culture is
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been pretty good. They've just been
unlucky. Um, I think they've they've

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they've done everything right from I would
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the top down, Um, starting
with Steve and um, you know,

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obviously ty Louise Is is someone who's
who's a great leader. I think Lawrence

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Frank is someone that a lot of
people see as a great leader. And

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I think I think at this point
it does kind of fall on on the

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star players. UM, you know, not to be overly critical off the

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bat, but I think, you
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he doesn't shy away from accountability.
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he said after Game six, we
would have won this game if I didn't

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play like shit, it was on
me. You know, I don't I

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don't recall, No, not that
that's what you need, but there's a

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level of accountability that I think,
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on that level, I don't believe, and so UM, you know,

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I think I think losses need to
hit hard. I think they need to

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bother you. I think they need
to to to really make you want to

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win the next game. And I
don't know if they have that. Um

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I'm not saying they don't. I'm
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on what I've seen. So we
just I think there's a few things that

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go into I think there's a few
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having a good culture. But at
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healthy, and we just I don't
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on their culture when they haven't been
healthy. That's a great point. I

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think the health thing is part of
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it is people are just frustrated with
the path A couple of seasons. Yeah,

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um Ron Sooh on Twitter had a
great call. He said they were

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building a culture, a culture of
doing things the right way, maximizing talent

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in a positive environment. That's why
Winger didn't take other jobs before, and

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guys like Reggie and Buttum were attached
to the organization. But he noted that

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something maybe changed recently, which I
thought was interesting. And then another that

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comes back to the health though too, Like I do think that there is

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a Reggie had to be the number
one guy. Yeah, Like I do

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think that there is like a cumulative
fatigue that sets in when it's like,

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you know, I mean like the
oh shit, here we go again,

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Like it's gonna be the same thing. Um. And and that's you know,

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that's that's not anybody's fall injuries or
just like one of those freak things

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that you kind of have to deal
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that has permeated in a way where, um, I guess I just don't

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see the same vigor that I even
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that's like throughout the roster, like
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the other role players. My question
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the culture was really good with the
Clippers. Was it the Game six where

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terrorists Man had thirty nine, because
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went up three one against the Denver
Nuggets and lost that series. Did they

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not have culture then? Like?
When was the culture there? Because to

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your point, Tilmare and I do
think there's something to that hardworking Miami Heat

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team, blue collar type of style
team and holding yourself accountable. Beginning of

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this season, Paul George was playing
poorly, called himself out in the media,

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and then had the game winner against
the Houston Rockets. Like we have

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seen some of that at times when
people want to see more of it.

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Sure, of course did Patrick Beverly
seemed to bring a more definable, identifiable

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culture because of how hard he plays
all the time. Yeah, But ultimately,

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is this what's holding them back or
is it just about the injuries that's

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holding them back? Well, I
will stay for one thing. I think

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I think both Pat and Lou were
We're under valued. Now. I know

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they needed to improve in another free
agency decisions coming up, but I think

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I think they needed to value them
and the culture that they started that they

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kind of brought here more than they
did, more than you know, like

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just trading Pat because he was going
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had when year left in the deal. You know, I think it goes

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beyond um bringing in John Wall when
you have a Reggie Jackson there who just

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played his ass off for an entire
year carrying that team, and that that's

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year. I think they really built
the culture that year without Kay and like

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when PG played like thirty games,
if you want to say UM that I

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think was a really good culture building
year because they had similar I would say

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it's mime female, a bunch of
hard working guys you could never kind of

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count out. And this is this
is why I'm a little you know,

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I don't want to call it the
stars too much, but this is like

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the worst we've seen Kwai and PG
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like they still weren't playing good basketball
when they were out there. I

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don't know if that's a product of
um, you know, a lot of

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you know, one coming back,
one being injured, vice versa. Maybe,

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you know, I don't know if
we want to count those first two

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games when Kauhi came off the bench. Those are pretty nasty as well.

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So there's a bunch of things that
there's a bunch of things you get you

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want to look into. But I
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stars. You know, Paul George
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that that's great. UM, it
doesn't have to be publicly, but I

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think, UM back to kind of
when I said, I think losses just

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need to hit harder. UM at
least when you're healthy and you come back

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and UM just play with more vigor, Like Will said, I think that's

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that's pretty important. UM. But
I think they I think Patton low they

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kind of they kind of mess with
the culture there by not treating it um

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the way they needed to. I
think just there's something to have having some

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continuity and um, keeping guys around
and you know, a bit of a

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loyalty aspect um. I think that's
undervalued UM today. And I know people

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are gonna say they were washed,
they were there, they were that sure.

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UM. I just think there's something
there because you've seen them lack of

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leader um like a pat like a
loose since they left, and I don't

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think that's you know, shocking to
anyone really. Yeah. Another person on

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Twitter, Lee Kashi, had a
quote that I don't know if I agree

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with the first part, but I
really like the second part what he says

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here he says we don't have a
culture. I'm not sure I agree with

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that, but he said, we've
had a couple of players that have imposed

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their personalities in a positive way and
that's been a big part of it.

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And I really like that take because
Bev and Lou together, I mean and

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to an extent Tress were phenomenal from
like you know, we do it for

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the people in the back, all
this other stuff like that kind of stuff,

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and then you look at Russ right
like Russ. I didn't necessarily I

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wasn't a big fan of the move, but when he showed up, seeing

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Russ care one hundred percent of the
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of the time, made you feel
a little more excited maybe to watch the

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team play as a whole, and
you love see him on the bench and

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stuff like that. So I like
your point about maybe treating the relationships a

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little bit better. Like dude,
that last interview with lou Will when he

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breaks the bench scoring record and everyone
was watching that interview and it was like

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something feels off about this, this
feels weird. And then I believe it

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was the next day that he was
traded for Rondo. So I like that

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point about legacy. But I'm also
I like what Adam you said, like

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there's no real way to like fix
or if you think it's broken this thing,

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If everyone's healthy, I bet the
culture gets a lot better to some

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point, right well, And I
think ultimately too, like it is a

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matter of personnel, right, like
Tom are brought up guys like Pat and

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lou Will and like, I mean, you can say that your franchise's culture

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is like X, Y and Z. It comes down to like the people

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in the locker room. And I
do think that there was a disservicet done

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this year, and like not intentional
and nothing against him, but I do

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think that, like the the addition
of John Wall didn't really help that locker

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room. I think that it probably
and I think that that like that that

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has its own ripple effects right to
other guys in the locker room, and

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that sort of stuff kind of permeates
pretty quickly, you know, we saw

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I mean even with Tress who you
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know, like was a part of
like building a culture. I think we

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kind of saw that, like the
how quickly those sort of things can can

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switch when there's like a malcontent in
the locker room. Can I throw this

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out there, because I feel like
culture has to be somewhat independent of one

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player or a couple of players and
personalities, like they start something, but

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then it almost takes on a life
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to your franchise, to that franchise, new players come in and they're just

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dipped in that culture regardless of who
is there, because it's it's from the

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ground up and it's just permeates throughout
the entire organization. So I don't know

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if I believe in that. Like, I still think that it takes like

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every person in the locker room to
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I think that that is what the
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put these like empower people in positions
I think where like maybe they buy into

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this thing, but like I think, let's say, had the same situation

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happened, right, and like they
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I don't think that suddenly makes him
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really think that it is still ultimately
down to the personnel, because you know,

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you can you can call your culture
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It can be street lights over spylights, it could be whatever thing you

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want it to be. But like
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And I do think that that is
what the Heat do really well.

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And I think that part of that
though is as a franchise managing at like

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taking a a harder look at like
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the locker room from from that type
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perspective. I agree with that.
I'm just wondering. It's almost like,

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if if it's just as simple as
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they lost Low, then did they
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them losing some leadership And there's a
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and there's that. I think they're
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some way intertwined. Um especially when
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like they're not the vocal guy.
Yeah, they're not that kind of leader.

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They're they're not the type of leader
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needs. Whereas I think I think
that that's why I think Russ was critical

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for them, because they started to
believe all the court stuff aside. Russ

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those things that I think maybe they
lacked before. Um Or I would have

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been you know, even if Russ
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I think that'd be fantastic just because
like not the hypotical, but like I

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think this leadership, accountability holding,
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the right things. Um, taking
losses hard, you know, calling guys

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that after a loss. Um,
you know I heard it. You know,

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after some losses, there might not
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It was kind of as quiet at
times. So like, I don't know

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if that's the type of thing that
you want over and over and over again.

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I think maybe maybe there's some guys, but I think that it needs

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to be shown in different ways.
I guess if if that makes sense,

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um, in a way that proves
Okay, you know, this isn't good,

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this doesn't feel good, Let's let's
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of it instead of God, all
right, let's move on under the next

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game kind of thing, you know, and brushing it aside like nothing just

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happened. Um. I don't know
if that makes sense. I feel like

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I'm ramming a little bit, But
I think there's I think culture and and

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and leadership are sort of intertwined.
And that's why I think they really miss

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Patton. They really was loot.
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of offset the quietness of the other
two guys. But all the fire and

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Knice that they were named fire and
nice. So yeah, I mean,

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well again, I think you know
the I mean outside from the bubble bus,

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like the you know, the most
promising miss Clippers team looked was in

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that twenty twenty one season. We're
quite you know, we're quite ultimately ended

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up going down. But like what
we heard from from Nick Patum and other

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guys was like they were not okay
with like losses. We we heard that

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there was a constant dialogue about sort
of like being called out on issues and

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and and and talking about those sort
of things. So I definitely agree with

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you. I hear what you're saying
that. I think even Rondo brought that

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to some level. I know it
wasn't playing well, but I think he

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brought that to some level. Um, he'll call you out. He was

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called I think Ty was called the
Rondo whisper for a reason. I know,

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I don't know if they know if
you still call it that, but

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um, I know there's definitely a
level of accountability brought from Rondo's perspective,

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Like he got out that he got
into it with Kawhi one time at an

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end of fourth quarter play on like
a near side corner three I remember,

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and Rondo is pretty darn good in
the regular season. I don't know what

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happened in the playoffs there, but
yeah, it's interesting. It's a hard

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thing to understand and kind of flesh
out. But I feel like you you

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you know it when you see it. It's it's just it's one of those

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things that you just when you see
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I don't think it's a better way
to kind of explain it, Like,

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yeah, I don't know. I
like Box has been like three street

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Eastern Conference the three or out of
four Eastern Conference finals, but it feels

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like their cultures at all a lot
of whack right now. I don't I

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don't think it's just the losses.
I think I think you could tell there's

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something just missing there. Um and
a scandal involving your coach, which doesn't

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help the culture either. How much
is the Clippers culture like really about respecting

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the regular season, which is something
that Lawrence Frank brought up in his offseason

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exit interview. We need to get
back to respecting the regular season, because

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that's something that I felt like Patrick
Beverley could raise the intensity of a one

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out of a two regular season game
because he plays that hard, and Russell

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Westbrook has brought some of that back
or did in his limits of town with

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the Clippers this time around. I
mean, the eighth c just made the

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finals. In the seventh, he
just made the conference final. So how

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important is it? It is important, but this just comes down to maybe

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having the right leaders and the right
actual culture regardless of Windard losses. UM,

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Like, I don't think I think
mine is very, very unimpressive at

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the regular cheese. I mean they
were almost, but I don't think they

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ever had like a stretch of games
we were like, okay, this is

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kind of what they could be UM
at any point, and I watched them

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here and there, but I like, I think they were down three points

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in the final playing game and they
were we're gonna lose to Chicago. So

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I don't I think it doesn't matter. I just think it's more important to

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have the right kind of leaders and
and players and accountability and kind of everything

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kind of set and plays, everyone
knowing their roles. Um Terrence Man doesn't

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know his role for four years now, it doesn't know his role, Like,

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you just can't keep doing that kind
of stuff. You can't. Reggie

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was a starting point, got then
it gets demotive for no reason other than

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we signed Joan Wall. Like,
I just don't think you can keep playing

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around and stuff like that. I
think continuity and then having a sort of

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set structure matters. Um. I
think everyone said, okay, this twenty

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twenty one team is good. Once
they had Kawai and PT, they'll be

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fine. They had Kawai and they
had a PG, they lost heart and

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signed they added Johan Walls, Like, okay, that's a lot of changes.

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That's not you know, Kawhi didn't
come and ready, so it's a

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bunch of different things there. Um, and Terres still doesn't know what the

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hell he's doing he's supposed to do, so Like, I just it's not

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set. I don't think they ever
really got set. I think they have

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a they have something in place kind
of, but it's not there yet.

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I would say, I like that
idea, Yeah, Adam, Yeah,

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I mean there's obviously nothing concrete with
a few different positions going on right now

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and pending free agents and stuff like
that. I think Terence's role being a

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moving target for so long has been
curious, Uh, just seeing him have

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to work through that. But on
the other hand, whenever he's asked about

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it, he's like, I'm used
to it, so it's not a big

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deal to me. In an out
of the lineup, starting, not starting,

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he seems to figure it out and
play as well. It's just really

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about how much he's court time he's
getting out there. Yeah, and what

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I hope it's more than twenty three
minutes per game next year. I don't

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necessarily thinks it's first of all,
what's he gonna say. He's not gonna

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call out it's the it's the I
mean, how many different groups did he

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have to play with this season.
I'm just saying, but all of his

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play he looked regardless. But we're
lucky that yeah, well lucky's yeah,

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he's able to adapt like that.
But like starting twenty games then coming up

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the bench the final twenty of rush
like, um, then PG goes down,

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you gotta start, uh, Eric, and then that bench looks different

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again. It's just like it's all
over the place. Normals out too until

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he came back. So like it's
just again, health doesn't matter there,

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but like these guys gotta have specifically
if you're gonna start ter and start him

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the entire way. Have these guys
playing together for sixty games if possible,

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if possible. You can't just keep
flip flopping and doing all this shit.

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Ultimately though, absolutely yeah yeah all
the time during the show. I don't

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know if you can do that?
Is the culture fixable? When you have

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Kawhi and Paul George is your leaders
and in and out of the lineup.

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I mean, that's all the question, right, Do they have to have

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somebody like Russ? Do they have
to have somebody like Patrick Beverley to supplement

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that? Or are they never going
to be able to maximize the potential aside

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from the injuries of just having a
much more stable locker room. I I

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think you need I think you kind
of need both. Right If your leaders

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are guys who lead by example,
which Kauai from my perspective, seems like

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a lead by example guy, which
is totally fair because the example is elite

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when you watch him play. You
need someone to kind of be that raw

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rod guy like you need to you
know, create a mix of like that's

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why Russ was good, right,
Like you need someone who's gonna be kind

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of the annoying guy to take to
get everyone hyped up and all that kind

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of thing. If the stars aren't
gonna be as raw rod and stuff like,

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that would be how I see it
now. Obviously, you can have

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too many guys where it's like,
Okay, chill out for a sec.

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But the Clippers don't have too many
guys that seem like they care too much,

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so I think they have some wiggle
room for adding those guys. Is

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there is there any player on this
team that's considered like like a fan,

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like one of those guys you like
Transes lay up. Yeah, crowd's going

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nuts, like besides Russ, I
guess sure, yeah it was Russ.

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They don't have that. I feel
like that that's part of You need that

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kind of guy who can who can
just one play just spark an entire crowd

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sparking team. I think guys who
could be that. I think Bones has

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potential to be that. You need
a guy who can score, Like like

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dude, Bev would have like like
six four and four and we'd be like,

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did you see Bev? Tony passed
through on a float over over like

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a guy two inches tall in him
and he's doing the too small talking to

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the crowd and like and it's amazing, Like he just dunked on the dude,

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like yeah, and he's doing that
every time, Like yeah, sh

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you need like you need you need
someone who's obviously not like push a cameraman

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U Dylan Brooks level, Like you
need someone like on that same level of

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like this person's kind of an asshole, but you want him on your is

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the person I think, Well,
do they have enough ass Uh? No,

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I don't know. They Yeah,
they still they still need like that

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guy in that personality, and that
that was the most like I mean,

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obviously he had his moments on court, but I think that that was locker

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room wise, And when they talk
about him saving the season like the biggest

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thing that Russ brought um and who
knows, like maybe maybe maybe if we

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get sixty games out of Kwai and
Paul George, like that changes and like

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we feel a little bit different about
that because I do think even just having

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those guys on court, even if
they're not that guy, I still think

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that that does something for a locker
room. UM. Although a lot of

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what Paul George has been doing post
post his most recent injury kind of has

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me worried that he is UM very
much. Not that guy you mean when

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he said anyway, I mean the
most we're gonna talk about some offseason stuff.

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talking the Clippers off season, and
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All right, welcome back into Clips
and Dip. We talked a little

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bit about Clippers culture. Now talking
about the Clippers off season. Um,

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where do you want? Where do
you guys want to jump in on this?

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Charles? I mean we've talked about
some of the we've talked about some

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of the different positions that that definitely
needs to be figured out. I mean,

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I think we have such a huge
log jam at the power forward position.

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Where are you at? Wait?
Where do you want to cut first

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on this? On this roster?
If I'm gonna I mean so I in

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the notes I put we need three
wings switched out for one and a half

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good ones, which is we need
one and a half good wings to switch

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out. Like, I don't know
what we can do. The CBA has

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me all confused. I'm not sure, like is it even approved yet?

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Like we need to resign plumbly as
a backup. I don't Ramona Shelburne was

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on you're all over the place,
you're talking? Are you talking? Are

409
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:27,279
you talking? Wings? Tell are
we supposed to do? I want to

410
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:32,319
get Tommaera's perspective on this, because
obviously we talked about the lack of wingstop

411
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,400
all season long, and there was
kind of an okey doke where we thought

412
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,720
it was gonna be wingstop and said
we got alive gardens, as Will put

413
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,440
it, Tellmer, did that throw
you for a loop? The fact that

414
00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:45,200
they had all these guys We thought
the team was constructed a certain way,

415
00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:48,240
and then they went away from that
and they were playing three or four guards

416
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:53,079
out there at times. I like
that olive garden. That's great, that's

417
00:26:53,119 --> 00:27:00,519
fantastic. We're doing good work over
here. Sometimes this is I mean,

418
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,640
this is this is just one of
the few things that this is why I

419
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,119
called it the most frustrating year.
I've had cover in the scene. There's

420
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,960
so many things that just didn't make
sense about this team is a big one.

421
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,920
Yeah, I mean it made no
sense. But like I'm really not

422
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:18,720
sure honestly, Um, I don't
know why we didn't see the forwards.

423
00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:22,680
I really was curious about that.
I know that, Um, you know,

424
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,440
having some sort of bench depth was
a reason, you know, for

425
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,359
for like some of the starting decisions
throughout the year, and UM, you

426
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,640
know, obviously small lineups didn't look
great without Kawai and PG available. Um,

427
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:38,319
you do need both of those guys, and um, you do need

428
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,359
both those guys healthy. Not coming
back from a five game absence and coming

429
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,920
going back down or whatever. Um, not limited in minutes, not not

430
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,480
playing back to back. So um. But yeah, I mean, it's

431
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:52,079
it's alarming that we barely got to
see it this year. I don't I

432
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:56,720
don't know why we didn't see it
as much, And um, I don't

433
00:27:56,839 --> 00:27:59,599
I don't know why we why we
would expect to see it next year.

434
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,880
Um than I do. It did
feel like at the end of the year

435
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,720
that we just we just saw a
team that had too many good players that,

436
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,720
like Shuck said, could have been
swapped for like one really good player.

437
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,240
Um. They had three, three
or four players I thought could have,

438
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,240
you know, easily helped another team
UM in the right role, but

439
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,240
UM on this team just didn't have
a role. UM like I might be

440
00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:26,000
great. I think amer Copy could
be a legit rotation player on this on

441
00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:33,000
this team, not when you have
Moses Brown needed minutes, buddy, I

442
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,319
mean I really think he has.
I don't think I can recall the last

443
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,000
time he had a stint that I
was like, damn, I mean it

444
00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:42,799
was pretty bad. Um. But
even if he's always just solid, he

445
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,640
never got time like all these guys. It was like I remember when Rocco

446
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,240
was having a play in garbage time
with like Brandon Boston and Savior Moon and

447
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:53,240
people are like, Rocos look very
good. You're like, yeah, it's

448
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:57,680
his first time playing in a week
and he's playing with league guys. Yeah.

449
00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:00,559
So like I agree that they I
think they probably should have swapped at

450
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:03,279
one point two or three of those
guys would one really good one. And

451
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:07,359
now with the CBA kicking in,
But it's a June thirtieth or July first,

452
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,359
your best your best um at your
best avenue to improve would probably be

453
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:22,000
the trade first are of some sort
before June thirty, before July first,

454
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,559
UM, because then you're kind of, you know, making moves based off

455
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:30,359
the new CBA. I believe,
I believe if I'm not mistaken. So

456
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:36,319
UM, it's it's really kind of
unclear, because I a team with Kawai

457
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:38,200
and Pig, you should be able
to to win, UM at a high

458
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:41,319
level. UM. But even when
they were healthy, just it just didn't

459
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:45,720
look like they had what they needed
to. UM. I mean, you

460
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:49,119
look at Denver in Miami that these
two teams are some of the greatest chemistry

461
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:55,640
we've ever seen. UM. These
guys they just they legitimately love playing with

462
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,559
each other, win, lose whatever. UM. And and I just I

463
00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:00,279
don't know if and I don't know
if I see that with Kwai and Peg.

464
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,039
There's a lot of things like PG
saying Russ is the leader that we

465
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:08,319
needed the point composition one of the
most alarming things that I've ever heard,

466
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,759
UM was it more? Was it
more or less alarming than when I said

467
00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:17,759
that Russ saved the season? Uh, right before they lost it was it

468
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,160
was very clear that was very clear
rust save of the season. UM.

469
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:26,119
It's just alarming that a team with
Kawai and PG and these championship espirations before

470
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:32,599
the season like needed that needed the
guy who was just yeah, the Lakers

471
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,759
were begging to get rid of.
Now obviously a lot of that, but

472
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,599
like, I don't know, I
just it's just alarming to me that that

473
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:45,880
that team needed a buyout guy to
start, come up, believe you signed,

474
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,200
I can't even talk be signed,
played thirty minutes as a starter,

475
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,880
um off the off the bat,
and just it's just it's alarming to me.

476
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,599
I I don't know if a team
like that hasn't has what it takes

477
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,319
to win, and that's I just
don't know. I think that's, like

478
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,200
ben the issue for me, Like
we all talked like coming into the season,

479
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:07,319
like looking at the depth, it
seems like this Clippers team would be

480
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,160
poised to have both a great regular
season and be able to sort of tread

481
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,960
water at least while Kawai and Paul
George are gone. But I think you

482
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:19,160
run into an issue where it's like
too many like good kind of like Swiss

483
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:22,599
army knife guys, and you don't
have that, you don't just have the

484
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,880
screwdriver or whatever. The one thing
is that you actually need. Do you

485
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,640
think that that was Like, are
you of the opinion that that was sort

486
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:37,680
of exacerbated by maybe some difference of
opinion between how the team was constructed and

487
00:31:37,119 --> 00:31:42,039
the lineups that the coaching staff ultimately
went with. I mean, I think

488
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,000
I think the team kind of accepted
who they were going to be once they

489
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:52,759
decided not to resign Isaiah and give
the percentage or whatever all the mL tmil

490
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,559
to John Wall you basically said,
we're going to accept not having a backup

491
00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:00,960
center. Zoo is going to be
worked to death, and um, you

492
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:04,839
know, if we need Moses to
save us, uh, he'll do that

493
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,279
just like he did. That wasand
of years ago. But you know,

494
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:13,319
I didn't really happen this year.
Oh my god, that is wait wait

495
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,559
wait, that is the first biblical
reference in one hundred and fifty episodes on

496
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,640
this podcast. Really yeah, and
we have we have we said damn a

497
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:29,319
couple of times. Okay, that's
not you know, um, but I

498
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,240
different of opinion. I wouldn't say
that because I think to start to you,

499
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:34,680
I think there was there was an
understanding of Okay, we're gonna have

500
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,640
to play smaller Um, she was
gonna have to take a big a bit

501
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,559
of a bigger role. We're gonna
try playing um the winkstartlined more. But

502
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,480
I think like all of that kind
of went to ship when Kawhi didn't come

503
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:49,759
in ready to you know, handle
the regular season workload. UM. You

504
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:53,039
know, Nie swelling two games into
the season is not great. Um.

505
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:54,640
And he had to miss a month
because of that. No, I don't

506
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,039
know if it's because he didn't play
five on five in the off season really

507
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:00,039
conditioned it for that. UM.
I don't enough he suffered to step back.

508
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:05,039
I don't know. Um, but
like that to me set the tone

509
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,440
for the rest of the season where
it's like, Okay, we're just we'll

510
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,519
get there. We'll get there,
we'll get there. Eventually, we'll get

511
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:12,720
there. Kawhi comes back, PG
goes there, we'll get there, we'll

512
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,440
get there. We just never got
there, just never ever got there.

513
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:19,680
So like, um, and I
think at one point, with all the

514
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,200
injury, I think tie, I
don't know, there was a clear different

515
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:28,799
opinion on on the rust thing.
Yeah publicly which is Clippers team. Yeah

516
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:35,039
yeah, that was yeah, UM, but it really looked like they needed

517
00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:37,200
then. I think time maybe since
that more from a leadership perspective, because

518
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:42,240
like Kawen, PEG don't like handling
the ball as much. I don't feel

519
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,279
like UM handling the ball not just
you know, getting to work, but

520
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:51,640
handling the ball being being primary playmakers. Um, and Pg's not good at

521
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,920
it. He turns the ball over
a lot. Chuck, Chuck. Chuck

522
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,480
made a great first blood joke the
other day. Then, Oh my god,

523
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:00,319
I actually was hollering when I read
that. I was like, that

524
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:02,440
is fantastic. I gotta figure out
when to use it. It's a very

525
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:08,880
niche joke. It's amazing. I
think that was a big difference of opinion.

526
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,800
But I think Tay kind of sense
that, you know, did they

527
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,719
need a vocal leader, a guy
who can lead multiple ways the way Rusted?

528
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,480
So, um yeah, I think
is that Rust saving is going to

529
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:24,480
be huh now tell Mara, But
that comment about Rust saving the season?

530
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,199
Is that an indictment on the Stars
at all? Is that an indictment on

531
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,039
the construction of the team, Like
they were still under five hundred with Russ

532
00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:36,039
and he saved the season? Like
is that I think so? I think

533
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:40,679
it's an indictment belief. I think
it's indictment on the belief that the team

534
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,719
had in itself that like before Russ, did they not believe I think they

535
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,159
could just do it. No,
I think they were just fatigued of seeing

536
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,320
the same thing over and over again, Like this is the year that was

537
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,519
supposed to be different, This is
the year Kawhip supposed to be back.

538
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,719
We're supposed to make some noise.
You know, you expect the injuries here

539
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,400
and there, But when you're two
games into the year, you best player

540
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,039
goes down again with the same thing. He comes back, goes down in

541
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:07,440
ankle sprain again, and then PG
goes down with I think it was hamstrp

542
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,719
quad something like that. If I'm
not mistaken, Like at that point,

543
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,280
you're just like, okay, we're
in January. We're dealing with the same

544
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,039
shit over again. Like you you
at that point, it's hard to see

545
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:19,800
the light at the end of the
tunnel. And so I can understand why

546
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,920
guys are, like, you know, tired of it. I understand it.

547
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,400
And that's where I think maybe respecting
the regular season was um you know,

548
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:30,440
needs to be taken into account where
you have to play every game regardless

549
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:37,000
of who's playing who's available, And
Yeah, it didn'tdepten on the entire team.

550
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,440
I would say front office, um, coaching staff, players, The

551
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:44,280
fact that Russ need to save the
season like that definitely was an indictment on

552
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,599
on on everyone. I would say, you just don't see how it can't

553
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:51,480
be. I just don't see how
it can't be, assuming like put aside

554
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:58,480
the RUSS like contract reality stuff.
Do you think that it's fixable if this

555
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:04,480
team runs it back? Or is
there a change or a move that you

556
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,760
see out there that could or needs
to be made in order to make this

557
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:15,679
team? You know that team?
I mean, this team rarely makes the

558
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,840
move everyone thinks they're gonna make that
for Marcus Morris, everyone knew that ship

559
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,880
was coming. That was a bidding
more between the two LA teams. Um,

560
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,639
it's hard to kind of pinpoint what
what they could need there. Um,

561
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,079
you mentioned bringing in a star this
summer. Who would you think is

562
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:39,559
the most realistic option for season if
they bring in a third guy, I

563
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:47,480
mean, you have to find a
way to get Damian Lillard and Will Yeah,

564
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,440
I just don't think he's ever gonna
leave. I really don't know,

565
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,400
but I think I think if if
you're here and the Blazers have a chance

566
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,760
to get Scoot Henderson, um,
you know, possibly a you know,

567
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:01,639
point guard for the next one eight
to ten, twelve years. Possible,

568
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:07,280
that could be a franchise guy if
you decide that, Okay, where you

569
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,599
know, we haven't gotten done Dame, let's just do what I buy him,

570
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:12,039
trade and where he wants to go, get assets back, build around

571
00:37:12,079 --> 00:37:15,199
Scoot go from there, which would
make sense with Simon's people talk about this

572
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,920
trade where it's like Simon's in the
three pick and they're looking for an elite

573
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,239
small forward. Why wouldn't you just
trade Dame, keep your pick and pick

574
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,159
a good point guard, because because
you can never You're never gonna get a

575
00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:30,920
player of Damien's caliber, all right, but rare. It's rare to ever

576
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:36,000
get a guy like they haven't done
shit with its diminishing return way though.

577
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:37,920
Yeah, it doesn't mean just trade
him away. Had a conference they made

578
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,440
a conference final. Come on,
unless he's straight up just says all right,

579
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:45,000
I'm out trade me, they're not
gonna do it. Yeah that's true.

580
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:46,840
Yeah, So like I think you
know, you can try to if

581
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,719
you're then you probably go after like
a Jalen Brown or Um, I don't

582
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,480
think the Paul George you'll really makes
sense for them because he's you might have

583
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:59,920
some of the lowest value we've seen
in recent years. Or it just can't

584
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:06,400
stay healthy right now. Podcast number
sure, I mean number one podcast in

585
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,719
Portland. Sure maybe, um,
definitely not knowing Portland, Bro definitely not

586
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,039
Portland. I'm sure there's I'm sure
there's the podcast host that never mind.

587
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:22,320
I was anyway a lot more micro
Bruce. Yeah, yeah, Um,

588
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:30,239
I think I have to be a
star otherwise, Um, you trade one

589
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,679
of the two one of the two
guys, and and and maybe build around

590
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,400
that. You kind of retool around
that. I would say, um,

591
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:42,639
not really really build retool. But
Dame is a guy. Um, if

592
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:45,840
you can get your hands on a
Jaalen Brown, who's you know? I

593
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,639
mean, I don't see an avenue
to keep your two guys in trade for

594
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:52,280
Jaylen Brown. So that's gonna be
tough. But um no, it's really

595
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,639
tough because again I don't know the
exact CBA rules when they kick and I

596
00:38:54,679 --> 00:39:00,400
believe it's July first, but um, you know, did the Clippers old

597
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,800
By the end of the year,
they looked old and Day unathletic. Even

598
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,679
with their two guys healthy, they
still look like they were going to beat

599
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,960
the Suns though of healthy, right, we all agree on that. Yeah,

600
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,360
Denver, that probably would have swept
them. Okay, so they played

601
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,719
the best team in the West and
lose to them in four or five.

602
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,480
It's like supposed to be the best
team in the West, is what the

603
00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:24,519
issue is. We're not lay all
those games that they swept by the Nuggets.

604
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:28,800
That is pretty bad. I don't
think they would I think it would

605
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,360
be competitive had they faced off and
both teams were fully healthy. I know

606
00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:35,119
everybody. I think it's easy to
say, now, oh, there's no

607
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,440
way they beat Denver because we've seen
what Denver has done this playoff run.

608
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:42,440
But if they get to own them
for a while, I don't put an

609
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,639
I don't put a ton into the
regular season or what happened in the bubble.

610
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:50,159
I gotta be honest that Montrez Harold
guardy Nikki is not happening now.

611
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,239
Anthony Davis Gardo, you can't do
shit. Who was gonna guard in the

612
00:39:53,320 --> 00:40:00,119
years? Yokis was pretty offensively funny. Yeah, you ever heard of a

613
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:07,519
seven footer named Moses Brown. Um, okay, so we're talking player acquisition

614
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,280
and things like that. The free
agency class also not very good. We

615
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:19,119
can all kind of Jeremy Grant,
Damien him, go get him, but

616
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:23,679
a lot of Clippers. The hype
for Bob Myers is something that's kind of

617
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:30,000
making my head hurt. So antomarees. Apparently he officially parted ways with the

618
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,159
Warriors this week. I just want
to read a couple of quotes for the

619
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,719
people who like, really want us
to hire Bob Meyers. Um. Bob

620
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,880
Meyers said the answer to the question
why he is leaving the Warriors is because

621
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,239
he doesn't feel like he can give
the full effort and engagement needed for the

622
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,199
job. And the other quote he
said was four years ago, I thought

623
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,280
can I keep doing this? And
how can I keep doing this? Does

624
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:58,800
this sound like someone who wants to
work for another NBA team next year?

625
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,440
Not in that capacity? No,
No, Bob, Bob needs a year

626
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:06,679
off, year off, right,
like make a leap year, go to

627
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,360
Europe. Bob. Yeah, I
mean, but barring a situation where he

628
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,599
does what Daryl Morey does, where
he's like, I need to spend time

629
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:14,960
with my family, leave the Rockets
and then joins the six years like a

630
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,280
couple of weeks later. I don't
Yeah, I don't see that because they

631
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:21,480
actually have been through a ton of
stuff and I'm sure a lot of it

632
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:25,039
hasn't even come out. UM.
Well, because the departure was weird,

633
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:30,920
because like Joe Lacobe had that weird
quote where he like didn't know that Bob

634
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,920
Meyers was leaving until like a couple
of days ago, and it's like,

635
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,039
well, that doesn't seem like it
makes anything. There was a ton though.

636
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:39,159
I think he called him like his
fifth son or something. There was

637
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,119
the whole there was the whole draft
thing where you were like, who's handling

638
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:50,920
the draft? And he's like,
um, it's I think I think having

639
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,440
seen the success they had, and
it just seems like he actually just needs

640
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,639
a year off, like he just
needs to get away from the game and

641
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,880
UM find that desire to to do
what he does. And I'm sure the

642
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:06,199
um but the desire for him,
the market for him will be even better

643
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,960
after that. UM next year,
UM, when a few teams probably disappointment,

644
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,360
they're in need of a president or
general manager. So UM show.

645
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:19,559
But I don't like I don't like
it one bit. Oh no, No,

646
00:42:19,679 --> 00:42:22,639
I really wasn't. I wasn't.
I'm saying it feels like it to

647
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:28,960
me that field I saw that image
in a couple years. Yeah, I

648
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,840
just I just don't see him taking
a job right now. I think it

649
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,480
makes sense for him to just walk
away for a bit and you know,

650
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,360
see Europe. Go'll see France,
so'll see You'll see England. I don't

651
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,239
know, I'll see a soccer game
in England. England. I'm also all

652
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,159
the opinion Tilmaron. I'm curious your
thoughts about this, Like a I think

653
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:49,920
there's an issue of Okay, so
like do you fire Lawrence Frank then,

654
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,000
because like track record wise, like
what has he done to the point where

655
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:55,360
it's like, oh, this guy
needs to be out of here. So

656
00:42:55,559 --> 00:43:00,239
I think like, on one hand, you if you bring him in and

657
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,039
you keep Lawrence Frank, there's like
a too many cooks in the kitchen thing.

658
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,840
And then on the other side,
I'm like, if we're not willing

659
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:12,000
to move either one of the big
two, what do you need this GM

660
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:15,639
in here for? Like with all
these with all these connections and everything on

661
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:21,719
drafted well, like like truly,
what what are you expecting? I mean,

662
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,760
I don't. I don't think you
need to get rid of Lawrence Frank.

663
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,920
Like I think again, there's so
much there was so much they can

664
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:31,119
there only so much the front office
can do. Uh like grand I think

665
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,119
the biggest mistake they probably had was
just going after John Wall instead of resigning

666
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:37,760
as the art and signed. And
that also could have been player pushed.

667
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,360
So I think the players probably holding
the coaching staff who over one and there

668
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,599
I think it was get some of
the preseason stuff. But yeah, I

669
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,440
think I think that they need to
hold take some accountability for that. And

670
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:53,039
you know it didn't didn't work.
But um, I don't think Lawrence Frank

671
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:54,920
like why would he why would he
lose his job? First of all,

672
00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:00,280
Like, I don't see why,
um on paper the team one and a

673
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,119
half years, they've constructed the team
that you know lost Chris Paul and Blake

674
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:07,480
Griffin and and flipped it to Kawahi
PG with with with a good enough culture.

675
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,480
I would say, m a championship
head coach, two championship coaches and

676
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:15,320
Doc and um, let's probably a
joke happened Doc and Tyler and so like

677
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,559
I think he's he's done a good
job they've they've done everything they probably can.

678
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,599
Health has just gotten on the way. Like I really think they probably

679
00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:25,360
won that twenty twenty one title if
Kawhi stays healthy. I don't think any

680
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,440
team really impressed me outside of like
the Bucks in the finals a few games,

681
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,199
but like no one really was was
it was impressive like that. I

682
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:37,800
think it was kind of open um
this year. I don't know, stay

683
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,920
healthy, You don't know, You
never know, but um, I think

684
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,639
Lawrence may kind of done all they
can. And UM, if you do

685
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:50,320
bring in another GM, a Bob
Myers or something, um, you're bringing

686
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,320
that person in either eight or a
place Frank, I would guess, or

687
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,639
or be with the understanding that there's
a plan that you guys kind of want

688
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:00,760
to work together on. And um, obviously you're not gonna, you know,

689
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:04,320
get a yes man and agreed to
everything you want to do, and

690
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,239
there's going to be in decision and
disagreements, which makes sense. Like I

691
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,559
would be a yes man if they
want to hire me to be a yes

692
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:14,960
man GM. Whatever they say,
goes, let's do it sounds great,

693
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,599
great idea, Lawrence love Steve,
this is awesome. Uh see, I

694
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,079
don't see why I Lawrence has done
a great job constructing this team. I

695
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:30,760
don't think one disappointing year where health
played a significant role in the end of

696
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,440
the year really should play a part
in that. Um. Yeah, that

697
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:37,280
that that's what I think, completely
agree. And you touched upon something there

698
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:45,480
and talking about the culture and them
going small with guards this season and the

699
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:49,320
lack of responsibility and maybe guys willing
to bring in John wall I heard a

700
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,039
theory out there that it's not so
much about coach lou it's what PG and

701
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,679
Kawhi want, the guys in the
lab, the jam, the pod.

702
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,079
We're talking about this the other day, that they're the ones at the forefront

703
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:02,440
of trying to get a guard to
just have less responsibility on their shoulders with

704
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:07,239
handling the basketball. Do you think
some of it is about that? I

705
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,320
mean, let's be real, there's
there's been a lot of things in the

706
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,320
last year and a half that is
just like, Okay, maybe these guys

707
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,280
aren't who we thought they were on
that level, Like Paul, you know,

708
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,719
you know, Paul saying he's he's
he's the one, I'm the two.

709
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,199
Uh and Ty having to go away
wait no, no, no,

710
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,679
I need you to be that guy. Still, Um, you know,

711
00:46:28,039 --> 00:46:30,760
them trying to, you know,
get PG to handle the ball more and

712
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:34,800
and the inconsistencies with ball handling and
turnovers got to a point where they just

713
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,719
constantly needed to find a point guard. Um. I think there's just so

714
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,639
many things where I think Ty probably
wants them to have that responsibility. But

715
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:46,400
I'm they're they're not They're not saying
I can't do it, but they're kind

716
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,039
of showing you that they would rather
I can't do it. In my opinion,

717
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,840
PG kind of said it. Yeah, He's like I was interested,

718
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,920
but then I was getting picked up
by Drew Holiday full court and I was

719
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,440
like, Nah, this isn't for
me, basically, and then letting Drew

720
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,360
Holiday switch back onto him anyway,
That one possession is burned into my brain

721
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,320
for how Paul George of the point
guard works out. But continuo, it's

722
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,880
very clear that they that they I
don't want to say they can't handle it,

723
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,960
but they don't want to. It's
not their skill set. And yeah,

724
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:15,800
and I think that, and I
think that if we're being honest,

725
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,840
your um, highest paid players,
your seventh highest speed players in the league

726
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:27,000
can't be doing that. They can't
be doing that. Um yeah, straight

727
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:28,880
up, they can't be doing that. And I don't think that's why I

728
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,360
don't think you can win right now
with these with this type of mentality.

729
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,159
Um, with this don't draw the
first play for me kind of thing.

730
00:47:35,199 --> 00:47:37,800
And I know it's just, you
know, work your way into a game,

731
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,079
but like, I don't know,
it's just I think you need you

732
00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:43,679
need a bit more of a killer
mentality, a bit more of a serious

733
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,280
mentality when when the winner puestion this
and um, these are the seventh and

734
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,280
eighth highest peed players in the league, they don't want to handle the basketball.

735
00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:54,639
Sixty six percent of your payroll is
happy to not be the guy.

736
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,920
You know, Like that's a major
issue like that. I just don't know

737
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,599
how you get around that. And
what's tough is like, in my head,

738
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,199
you can have Kawhi be Kauhi,
which is a top three player when

739
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:12,400
he's healthy and he's a leader by
example. Ideally the number two, even

740
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,360
if they are the number one,
is at least you know, in that

741
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:19,800
same Pat Beab Jimmy Butler mindset where
it's like we gotta get this ship every

742
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,280
single game. It doesn't matter.
Chris Middleton. I'll take of Chris Middleton

743
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,599
mindset, right, But the thing
show you that sometimes Paul will show you

744
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:34,000
what do you want that for him? He's he has games where you're like,

745
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,880
dude, just do this every game, Like, just do this every

746
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,000
game? Like how many times have
you had to say, Paul, just

747
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:42,719
take ten threes a game, please, Like you're such a great shooter,

748
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:45,320
just take ten threes a game.
Their best playoff run getting to the Western

749
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:52,400
Conference finals. The ball was in
pg's hands a ton obviously those last what

750
00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:58,440
eight games without he was running the
show and he was comfortable doing it.

751
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,039
I wonder if some of it is
just to get through the regular season.

752
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:05,239
We like to have it more of
a playmaker out there, we'll handle more

753
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,639
responsibility in the playoffs and more of
the workload then, But then how are

754
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:13,719
you taking the regular season seriously as
prep for the playoffs? If that's the

755
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,960
case, well, so with thy
Lou, it's hard because Tylu, as

756
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:22,119
every Calves fan will tell you,
the regular season for Tylu, if you're

757
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:25,599
a fan, is kind of a
nightmare sometimes because you're trying these things.

758
00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:29,199
So I'm not I'm not disagreeing with
you, but I'm saying it's kind of

759
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:34,039
a perfect storm, right of tinkering
Tie that twenty sixteen Calves team was great.

760
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:37,400
They were great. They were great
all the way through. I just

761
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:44,039
think Tinkering he have Lebron James,
just you have Lebron James, Like Tie

762
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:45,840
was great. I really was great. He made everything he needed to do.

763
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,679
He had a healthy star who was
available and knew what he needed to

764
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,400
do. So like that helps that
he can argue you didn't need to go

765
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,760
get a point guard out there because
you had one, um one who wasn't

766
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,960
shying away from ballhand the responsibilities when
you have that, you have to figure

767
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:08,719
out ways to keep keep things moving, keep things going, and um has

768
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,280
you know to look look good at
times, hasn't other times, but um

769
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,719
like that Cavs team look. I
think Ty was able to do whatever he

770
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,239
wanted to because he knew he had
Lebron and they looked like champions. Yeah,

771
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,360
at some point in the regular season, you can do whatever. You

772
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,360
can pull guys out, you can
play small, you can play a big,

773
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,559
You do whatever you want because you
have a Lebron James and your team

774
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,920
who can do anything he wants to
in the court. Isn't shying away from

775
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,239
anything. So all right, real
quick, before we take another break and

776
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:37,000
talk some draft stuff, Tolmer,
what would you say is the number one

777
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:39,760
thing the Clippers need to fix?
What's their number one priority this offt season?

778
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,000
Fix the Wi Fi at the arena? Thank you? Finally someone says

779
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:47,400
it, Bro, I put my
phone on a hot spot. I got

780
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:52,599
that team mobile five G I can
hook you up. It's bad. It's

781
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:55,480
bad. It's bad. And I
use the guest one because it's so bad.

782
00:50:55,639 --> 00:51:00,960
I literally use the guest one in
the media. What do they need

783
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:14,519
to is the four position? Maybe
it's either to meets either get a bit

784
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:17,719
more athletic. Um, especially at
that four position. I would say,

785
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:27,199
yeah, um and define roles.
Just just define everyone's roles. Karen's man

786
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:34,360
should not be playing the six,
even if even if he doesn't start Terrence,

787
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,440
just give that guy consistent minutes at
that position as as that player.

788
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:46,679
Um, I think Terns should start, like I'm trying to like, no,

789
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,719
Terns should have been the starter for
for the for the whatever it was.

790
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:58,480
But then Westburg doesn't save the season. So I was like, uh

791
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:04,920
content, why yeah, yeah,
so um, like Westbrook was good.

792
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,559
I think he may have even been
better on eventu role. Um, you

793
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:12,480
know, stagger with some stars,
but like Terrens should have started. I

794
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:15,280
think, I think you're I don't
I don't remember who made this comp but

795
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,840
like it might have been Jamal on
Twitter. But um, there's there's just

796
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,239
a great misuse of Terrence in my
opinion. Um, well, you look,

797
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,000
he's not using them the way he's
supposed to. And when you look

798
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:30,559
when you look at on one team
alone, Gabe Vincent, max Ter's,

799
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:37,960
uh Duncan Robinson and who's the last
guy had Caleb Brtin, Like these are

800
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,960
guys who again maybe they got a
little hot, but they know their roles

801
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,840
and they're playing well in those roles
and not playing above those roles. Um,

802
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,679
I think that's that's important. Um
so I think just define roles and

803
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,760
get more athletic, more athletic at
the four. I would say it's probably

804
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,599
what they would need to do in
my opinion. But um, also find

805
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:00,599
a way to the healthy. But
I don't think you can control that.

806
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,400
That's just well, come on,
Tomara, if we knew how to find

807
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,559
a way to stay healthy, I
think we'd be talking. We'd be a

808
00:53:06,639 --> 00:53:08,480
much more fun podcast. We'll be
talking about the Clippers in the finals,

809
00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:12,320
and it'd be a great time.
You need to buy hyperbolic time chambers for

810
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,079
everyone and just throw them in there. They don't get to go home,

811
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:17,800
they just go sleep in there.
That's out of the next game. Adam,

812
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:22,679
can you source us some hyperbaric chambers? Adam is a He was doing

813
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:25,440
a much of cryo earlier in the
season. I sent myself back in time,

814
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:29,159
so I didn't watch all of this
season. Actually, I was still

815
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:34,039
in twenty twenty one watching the Clippers
went on Earth too? Yeah, bro,

816
00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:37,320
Clippers on Earth too unstoppable? All
right, Coming up, we're being

817
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,920
closed out of the show with some
draft talk, a couple of shout outs

818
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,639
for some former Clippers who, hey, you know, happy for them.

819
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:46,559
But first, as we mentioned,
Tomara was complaining about it earlier. We

820
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:50,920
have some ads coming up the Little
too Loud. If they've been too loud

821
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,719
for you, go ahead and turn
it down. We're talking draft and other

822
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:58,920
random stuff coming up in three two
one. Welcome back in Clips and Zip

823
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,639
episode one fifth. We've made it
to this point. We got Will Updyke.

824
00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:07,199
I'm at a mazin chef Mockler's here
and tomare Azarely from clutch Points follow

825
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,840
him there. He's got thirty k
followers already, and clutch Points has the

826
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:15,559
most unhinged graphics you will ever see
this story. You're perfect, I mean

827
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,760
creative, I mean crazy wild,
and they work. I love it.

828
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,840
I will say Clutch Points Brazil on
a whole different level than than any other

829
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:30,960
other clutch Points. Really well,
that's the one that was the Clutch Points

830
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:36,639
Brazil did the h Was it Kawhi
holding someone's head like Kathy Griffin. No,

831
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,159
they took like a Kawhi fishing pick
and like someone was on like a

832
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:45,400
player was on the line of it, and everyone was like, oh yeah,

833
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,480
it was a little crazy. Chuck. You pulled up this draft store.

834
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,280
You want to lay it out here
for somewhere. Yeah. So the

835
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,519
draft is coming. The Clippers have
the thirtieth pick and the forty eighth pick.

836
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:59,440
It doesn't I don't want to say
it doesn't really matter for next year's

837
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,639
success, but does it? Lawrence
Frank, you can find another tierce man

838
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:07,840
and not play him if it will
be great. Hey, maybe we can

839
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,639
find other feet and play him a
bunch. So Lawrence Frank was at the

840
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,800
Clutch Pro Day, which some people
will be upset about, but he was

841
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,119
watching a Duke freshman named Derek Lively. He's seven foot one, he's got

842
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:22,480
a seven foot four wingspan. He
did make fourteen straight corner threes in front

843
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:27,840
of NBA teams, but this was
literally never on display when he played for

844
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:32,000
Duke in game. He's obviously a
center, he's springy, he's a good

845
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,159
defender. My thing with this is
every single player the Clippers have been scouting

846
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,480
is someone who, every time I
look at their draft profile, is slated

847
00:55:42,519 --> 00:55:45,840
to be drafted doing much higher,
much higher than the thirtieth or forty eighth

848
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:50,679
spot. So I guess my question
is would we actually move up on the

849
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,199
draft to take a center when we
have Mousa and does do these workouts make

850
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:59,119
us think that a trade up is
happening maybe or just in the idea because

851
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:01,800
they're they're looking at people like we
did an episode last week and they were

852
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,800
looking They had a pre draft workout
with like the best shooter in this draft,

853
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:10,199
who's like a maybe like a lower
lottery pick. So to Mary,

854
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:14,320
do you think they make a move
in this draft? We know they buy

855
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,800
pick some things like that. But
how do you think they're approaching me?

856
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,320
I mean it is the thirtieth pick
of them. I'm mistaken, right,

857
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:25,119
thirty and forty eight, So I
mean the thirty means you need a guaranteed

858
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:32,000
rosters. That's a guaranteed contract as
a first rounder. So I would imagine

859
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:37,840
you have you would trade that.
Um, I mean you can keep it.

860
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,280
I just I don't see the point. Like Brandon's boss is not gonna

861
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,119
play, um, Xavian Moon is
not gonna play. I don't think they

862
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,519
drafted him. But Moose is probably
not gonna play. Um a mere forgetting

863
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,159
a mere ship play, but he's
not gonna play. Yeah, he might

864
00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:57,840
be the four, the athletic four
they need, actually, but like until

865
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,000
until you see that, I just
it's hard to say they can find another

866
00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:04,719
Terrence Man because I don't know if
anyone else getting that kind of role or

867
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,880
that opportunity. Yeah. Rather so, a first round pick is a guaranteed

868
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,280
contract. So unless they're unless they're
getting awesome guys contract, I don't even

869
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,559
know what their payroll looks like this
year. Do you think Frank is scouting

870
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:21,639
for somebody else? He's ready to
trade that big consultant work. Yeah,

871
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,760
if you're in win now mode,
what does the first round pick do for

872
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,519
you? When both Kawhi and PG
are over the age of thirty right now

873
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,159
on a team that already has young
guys as you mentioned that are playing.

874
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,800
They have thirteen guys signed, including
Eric Gordon's don guarantee not fully guaranteed.

875
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,800
Like what, I don't know what
you're what you're doing with with with a

876
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,679
draft pick. You don't need that
draft pick. So do you think maybe

877
00:57:46,760 --> 00:58:00,639
move down or actually in some way
just move out actually picking the skip card?

878
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:07,159
Yeah number what we was picking twenty
nine hit hit the skip and have

879
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,159
we choose not to pick? Yeah? Yeah, um yeah, I just

880
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,519
I don't know what what what what
a pick does for you? If you

881
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:16,119
keep that pick, it's a guaranteed
contract, Like I don't I don't know

882
00:58:16,199 --> 00:58:20,360
what that player does for you unless, yeah, I don't know what that

883
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,119
does for you. You gotta sign
you know, Mason Plumley hopefully Russell Westbrook

884
00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:29,320
would be fifteen players, I believe. Um, So, like, what's

885
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,119
the point in kind of signing you're
not racing and trading someone? Yeah,

886
00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:37,239
I mean you Roco Morris and thirty
for Jeremy Grant sign and trade. Who

887
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,679
does that? I would do that? So I think too is like I

888
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:46,880
mean you I think, yeah,
the Ontario Clippers posted highlights I think yesterday.

889
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,199
I'm just like how there were some
crazy buzzer beaters and like Moosa was

890
00:58:51,239 --> 00:58:54,360
having these double doubles and Brandon Boston's
junior was obviously there was that stretch early

891
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:59,320
in the warlder Clippers G League team
was just like destroying the other G League

892
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:06,199
teams. But that doesn't matter like
for the for the l A Clippers,

893
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,239
that does not mean anything because those
guys, you know, Bones is a

894
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:15,039
better version of Brandon Boston junior,
and I think is kind of Brandon Boston

895
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:20,719
junior ceiling. Um, So like, yeah, do we just hoard second

896
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,800
round picks to try and like trade
or something like I actually hadn't thought about

897
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,000
that perspective. Tomare of like why
even draft someone who's gonna be a guaranteed

898
00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:31,960
pig if they're not gonna come in
and make an actual impact next year?

899
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:37,920
Yeah, I mean they're they're less
you, um draft I mean the who

900
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:45,440
they think they took a mussa last
year? Um, they took Quentin rhymes

901
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,960
that traded Um. Yeah, I
just I mean a lot of the picks

902
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,519
have been trader Like I just I
just don't see the point. Um really,

903
00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:55,280
I really don't, um, especially
not a first round pick. But

904
00:59:55,320 --> 01:00:00,880
it's a guaranteed contract. Yeah,
unless you're climbing into an area where you

905
01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:04,519
really really like a guy and and
he's someone that you believe can be part

906
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:07,360
of the rotation. Um. And
even then, Um, I believe they

907
01:00:08,239 --> 01:00:12,519
did they trade for Brandon. I
think they traded in for cash. I

908
01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:17,960
believe, yeah. And then I
believe yeah. So like you, I

909
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:21,840
just don't see that that pick helping
the help with the Clippers. And if

910
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,519
it's a guaranteed contract, it's just
taking up a spot. So to Mayer,

911
01:00:24,639 --> 01:00:30,800
who do you think of Batum,
Morris, Rocco? How many of

912
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,639
those guys are going to be there
when the season starts, when we talk

913
01:00:32,679 --> 01:00:38,760
about a lot of jam at the
four, how many of those guys are

914
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:43,199
gonna be there? Um? One
of them, two of them, all

915
01:00:43,239 --> 01:00:50,639
three of them. I will say
one. I will say, um,

916
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,880
I think it makes sense to keep
two. But I don't know how happy

917
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,280
Robert is after the role he had
this year. Oh if I was Robert

918
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,280
Covington and Terence Man. I'd be
like, yeah, yeah, I'm asking

919
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,400
out. I mean, the thing
is, Robert is signed. It's not

920
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:12,079
like he has he has anywhere to
go. Yeah, um no, none

921
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:16,000
of these guys have have are freedience. But like I really think that,

922
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,559
um, Roco and I think Rocco
and Nico will be here. I think,

923
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:27,440
Marcus, um, you're selling low. You gotta sell low though.

924
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:29,960
On him, I mean he's in
expiring, but other than that, it's

925
01:01:30,039 --> 01:01:35,000
kind of like he's very clearly not
you. You trade him. You trade

926
01:01:35,039 --> 01:01:37,719
him to whoever has the twenty ninth, taking another thirtieth thing and be like

927
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:43,679
here you go, that's not a
bad call. Um, all right,

928
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,000
why we we're gonna wind this thing
down. There was just some breaking news.

929
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:51,239
The Pistons just hired Monty Williams for
six years, seventy two million dollars

930
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,360
deal six years. Yeah, it's
a ship ton of money, yeah,

931
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,280
which I think make him pop is
the highest paid at eleven point five a

932
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:06,440
year? Does that make money the
highest pad? I'm not I keep close

933
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,760
right now. I think he's closed, Yes, he's he's yeah, highest

934
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:17,639
paid damn. Hey yeah, wow
wow right. Shout out Detroit. We

935
01:02:17,679 --> 01:02:22,639
gotta give a couple other shout outs
Reggie Jackson, Jeff Green, and DeAndre

936
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,760
Jordan. Congrats on making the finals. We hope to be there someday.

937
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,119
I don't know, would you guys
everything else to say about this? So,

938
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:30,880
Mary, did you talk to any
of the guys or did you ask

939
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,559
any questions today the press conference for
the finals. I didn't catch Reggie.

940
01:02:35,679 --> 01:02:39,480
I didn't catch h DeAndre, and
Jeff. I did catch Reggie. We

941
01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:45,159
spoke for a few minutes in the
hallway. Um, yeah, he's happy,

942
01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:49,239
man, He's uh, he's like, he's like this weather is a

943
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,559
close. You know, it's a
one A one B because right now it's

944
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:55,360
been really good in Colorado. It's
been really nice sunny. Um, it's

945
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,920
a one A one B to LA. But still got love for LA,

946
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,760
still got love for all the fans, and shouted out assistant coach once A

947
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:07,920
Bow and Norman Powell um for their
recent birthdays. Um didn't mentioned to you

948
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,760
a little bit? Um? Yeah, So, I mean he was bringing

949
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:20,599
a heat on this podcast, saying
we're the cooler. Yeah. No,

950
01:03:20,639 --> 01:03:22,519
it was funny because Reggie, actually
I think he was getting like annoyed with

951
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:27,119
one guy's questions. He was like
asking about the twenty twelve finals and how

952
01:03:27,199 --> 01:03:30,440
much suff not to play, and
Reggie was like, all I members that

953
01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:32,400
we lost. Yeah, and he
goes and he asked him kind of fallow

954
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,800
up, and Reggie clearly wasn't into
it. So I just went. I

955
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,920
picked in my head it kind kind
of most of the guys went and I

956
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,400
went, Hi Redge, and he
left. He goes, hey, how

957
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:44,760
are you. What's up? You're
the cooler a familiar face. Yeah,

958
01:03:45,199 --> 01:03:46,599
yeah, so kind of saved him
from from a bit of an awkward moment

959
01:03:46,639 --> 01:03:50,400
there, But um no, he
was cool. It was always all fun

960
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,119
and games. You know, we'll
see each other, uh this entire trip.

961
01:03:53,159 --> 01:03:55,800
I'll be in this entire finals trip, which hopefully goes longer than four

962
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:00,320
So you talk shit to Mike Malone
or anything? Any weird in her action

963
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:05,039
there? Me personally? Did he
did he get snippy with you? You

964
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,840
suck? Had I had to make
a business decision. It was either talked

965
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,119
to, you know, talk to
Michael Malone, or talked to Reggie Jackson.

966
01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:15,840
I chose Reggie because they both talked
at the same time. A little

967
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,880
wall though but I'll get I'll get
to hear Michael complain about how they're underdogs

968
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:24,880
tomorrow. It's not like I missed
out anything big. Hey, it works,

969
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,000
you know, and it's not then
the game two or Game three whatever

970
01:04:28,039 --> 01:04:35,360
it might be. So yeah,
So I my head, my head says

971
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:44,039
Nuggets in five, my heart says
Heat and six in six six, Yeah,

972
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:48,880
I think I think I'm gonna go. I think I want to go

973
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:54,880
Miami. Um wow, there's something
there's something weird about this Heat team that

974
01:04:55,039 --> 01:05:00,840
just you just can't count out.
You just hold sure, I don't I

975
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,400
don't know what. Maybe we're maybe
this is one of those shares that you're

976
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,000
overthinking and that it's it's really as
simple as they got the MVP. Jomal

977
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:10,119
Murray's playing like a animal and they're
just gonna blow through. They have a

978
01:05:10,199 --> 01:05:14,400
size advantage, they have a an
experienced advantage, they have depth, like

979
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:16,840
they have everything they need health,
Yeah, Tyler Hero might not be back

980
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,960
to the game three, maybe game
four, so like they have Denver has

981
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,800
everything they need to possibly sweep the
series. And I would not be surprised

982
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:29,480
one bit if they sweep. But
something about Miami just just they're peaking at

983
01:05:29,519 --> 01:05:31,360
the right time. They're just like
they're doing what you want to do in

984
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,880
the playoffs, They're peaking at the
right time. Like like like the amount

985
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:43,719
of mental and emotional fortitude it takes
to bounce back from that Game six loss

986
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,880
when you thought you had a final
birth at home on some bullshit buzzer beater

987
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,400
where the only way of the ball
could have bounced would have beat you,

988
01:05:50,519 --> 01:05:55,599
and it did. And to come
back from that and win Game seven in

989
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,079
Boston, Like, I just that
that takes so much that I don't I

990
01:06:00,119 --> 01:06:03,079
don't know how many teams could do
that. Um and so like I think

991
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:06,199
there's some something specially for the Miami
team. I really do. Like Denver.

992
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:11,239
Denver's just blown through the competition because
they've been amazing, But something special

993
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,440
about this Miami team to me,
I don't know. I'm I'm gonna say,

994
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,119
I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say
head in six just to be different

995
01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:19,280
because everyone's picking the nuggas. I'm
gonna say he did in six heat and

996
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:24,639
six from tolmare. Uh. Thank
you so much for doing this podcast.

997
01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:26,920
By the way, we know you're
in Denver. We know the altitude's got

998
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,519
y'all crazy. Um, is there
anything that you would like to promote for

999
01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:33,639
yourself before we send these wonderful people
on their way. You Also, we

1000
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,920
have to say thank you for your
Clippers coverage this year. This is a

1001
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:41,920
very difficult year to cover the Clippers. You were fantastic, very much the

1002
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,960
Clippers fans, thank you for what
you asked, the tough questions. You

1003
01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:49,599
help the you help people, accountable, help organization. I created change.

1004
01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:55,039
I created change, Yeah, but
what asked the questions? Hey, you

1005
01:06:55,119 --> 01:06:59,280
broke the Hardenstein story, right,
yeah, the Hartenstein thing, the betumb

1006
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,320
starting thing. Yeah, that was
a couple of things we need. Now,

1007
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,880
please promote yourself for the sixteen people
who listen to this podcast. No,

1008
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,000
I mean thank you for the kind
of words that's that's too much,

1009
01:07:09,079 --> 01:07:13,039
but I do appreciate it. This
was definitely, um, by far,

1010
01:07:13,199 --> 01:07:15,400
the toughest year I've had in my
seven years covering this team. Um,

1011
01:07:16,519 --> 01:07:21,800
but it's just I think it was
it was It was still fun, um,

1012
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,679
you know, all the relationships you
make and everyone you meet there,

1013
01:07:25,719 --> 01:07:29,480
so I actually really enjoyed it,
but it was tough. I don't really

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have anything to promote than like my
you know, I'll probably put some word

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out so some some workout from the
finals, and um, I'm trying to

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get trying to get someone, um
an interviews with a clipper. Um hopefully

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soon that I can push out if
they answered the damn phone. Um,

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I'm trying to get on podcast.
Let's go. So I'm using this as

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no, Um, we're the steppings
down and then this podcast people will take

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it. Please tell people that that's
how it works. All these guys do

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01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,800
is talks about podcast. P This
is not gonna work podcast, but go

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:13,719
on. UM No, I don't
really have anything to promote. Just I

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01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,840
mean check out. I'll probably get
some get some content out on some written

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01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,239
content out over the next couple of
weeks, the next couple of days from

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01:08:19,239 --> 01:08:25,479
the finals, get some cool video
stuff from the finals. Just follow along,

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01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,000
support there and U yeah, I
just I appreciate everyone for all the

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01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,520
sports last couple years has been.
It's been fun kind of hoping to to,

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you know, break through eventually.
Um, I was I still gonna

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01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:41,199
justin the other day and I was
like, dude, I'm never going to

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01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:46,600
cover up finals team. Next year, in sixty five days, you'll be

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,760
there. I mean, look,
a couple of glasses of wine in I

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was I wasn't of the best minds, but hopefully, hopefully what kind of

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wine? What's your wine go to? I go with the the justin justin.

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01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:05,359
I don't know about any wine.
I think it's like it's just in,

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01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:11,399
Um, it's a cab. There
is something called earthquake that I get

1036
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,840
from bev moo. We'll just do
a free, free, free promotion over

1037
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,039
here. Yeah, and the last
one is is it Josh Reserve that I

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01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:20,560
like to drink? So cool?
I'm getting into the wine game. My

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brother works at bev moo. He
got me into the wine game. And

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then I have to say, I'm
in it's expensive, but I'm in red

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01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,000
wine Ray. When Will drinks too
much red wine, he becomes someone known

1042
01:09:30,039 --> 01:09:33,479
as red wine Will. So y'all, y'all could have a pretty entertaining sports

1043
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:38,359
debate show. Yeah, we will
get into a point where I was watching

1044
01:09:38,399 --> 01:09:40,760
these conference finals sipping on sipping on
the glass, and I was like,

1045
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:45,560
Yo, this is this is this
is cool. I like how the feels.

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:46,960
There. We go, well,
thank you for being on the show.

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01:09:47,079 --> 01:09:51,039
Adam Will anything to tell these wonderful
Clippers fans while we send them on

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01:09:51,079 --> 01:09:56,640
their way on this chilly Wednesday evening. Just thanks for listening. You can

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01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:00,680
check out this pod anywhere you listen
to podcasting. View us over on iTunes

1050
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,560
or Spotify. Check us out on
YouTube. That's at Clippers Podcast. You

1051
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:10,640
can see Tomare's very revealing outfit on
the show. It's very scandalous and you

1052
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,399
chop it up with us anytime on
Twitter. That's at Clippers Pod. And

1053
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:19,319
he's at toemrazarli A Z A R
L Y on Twitter for all that good

1054
01:10:19,399 --> 01:10:23,279
finals coverage. There we go,
we need it. We'll be back with

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01:10:23,359 --> 01:10:26,520
you next week. Kelly Washington's going
to join us digital news producer over at

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01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,880
Good Day LA and a fantastic Clippers
fan. Thanks for rocking with us,

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01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:30,960
and as always, let's go Clippers