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Mark Hillman's here Hello, BtVS is his spot on Sunday's Yes ye right
yeah. And Danny decked out in his Bill's gear getting ready for the NFL.
Oh I am jeez. Okay, when dreams are made for young men
to become millionaires. It's the NFL's annual season of hope. It's like Kingdom
Bound for football fans. All right, what is Kingdom Bound again? King
about is a big Christian festival during okay, okay, they go everywhere.
They just just put their hands up and praise the Lord. Do they baptize
people and stuff? There I don't know if they baptized. They have a
lot of Christian concerts and stuff. It's like, hey, here's the one
time we could be cool for a weekend. Yeah, I used to link
with death uh water. They had people like from all over show up for
this. That's the thing. It's like Christian's gone wild or tame, depending
on how you look at it. That's kind of fun. It's nice.
Yeah, don't like minded people. You probably feel good about your kids going
there if you were. Yeah, right, you worry about him going to
Morgan Wallen show, who literally got drunk. Don't even get me started on
that. I know, jackass, jackass, that jackass. I guess he
had like fifty thousand fans and all these bands played before him and then he
they said his throat was sore or his voice was gone, but he's out.
He was drunk, okay, axel what they did. What they do
is they put a thing on on the big screen, We're sorry, show
was canceled. Then they have someone walk out and say something. Everybody thought
they were kidding. People drove, you know, drive drove for miles,
you know, I stay whatever to see this concert. And yeah, he's
a mass right now. That's too bad. Is he the guy? Is
he the subject of uh that one movie with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga,
the guy, the drunk dude, the star is born Star. That's a
real life. It could be, It could be. I mean that that's
that was the third edition of that. Yeah, it's a remake right fourth,
uh fourth, four to fourth maybe four those Yes, he did.
Someone thought enough of that movie to do it four types like twenty seven times
like four stars. But Barbara Streisand was in the in the one, the
last one, Life, the last one. Then uh, Judy Garland,
Yeah, and then there was a one before there was one before that.
I don't know, Silent, a silent film. I'll look it up.
I'm not I wouldn't see it. If I was, I wouldn't meet this
up. I'm very up. Were moving really fast, thinking I'm an alcoholic.
Didn't worked for that out thinking, think I'm so bummed out. I'm
not gonna get any more of those giant blue coupons in the mail from bed
bathroom beyond Well, they're officially closed. I think they're officially closing. They're
filed bankruptcy, they're going out of business. It's it Amazons strikes again?
How many times? Mark Star was born nineteen thirty seven with Janet Gainer and
Frederick March Okay, then fifty four with Talkinge f It's a Talkinge, then
Barbara Stress and christ was the truck in the latest one. All right.
The I did not know there before the yeah, the bed bathroom beyond thing.
I kind of bumped me out a little bit because not not bed bathroom,
I can give a shit, right, but you go in there,
it was always something. Yeah, you always had something you needed. Knives
you could get, and betting and you know, all kinds of stuff in
there. Hangars and then anytime you went in, even if with your receipt
and you had the twenty percent coupon, right, you could come back and
they would take it off and give it back. I mean, he was
like, I don't know how they had I was wondering how they did this
business model and apparently not well. But it's weird because I go, you
know, here's the lesson in this to me. You know how we hear
everybody say support local, support local, support local, because you know,
the world is changing fast and a lot of people do their shopping online.
I mean places like Wayfair right, they needed chairs. Once I didn't go
to bed, Bath and Beyond for a kitchen table stuff, I didn't go
anymore. I looked at Wayfair well you know chairs, so I and I
started to thinking, go, man, this is it's it's all changing so
quickly. And then we always hear about that, well you got a shop
local and they have what is it around the holiday shop local Saturday or something.
Better get out there and support a little bit here, because kind of
bums you out is life changes a little yeah, you know, you know,
just see stuff go away? It really it really does. I mean
not to bension like I know it was a sport local, but at the
same time, you know, yeah, I mean like people look at it
like, well it's a national chain. They'll start what about the people to
work there? Oh yeah, you know that's a local. That's the thing.
Like when on Twitter every once in a while, all these uh Bills
writers and Bill's opinionists and whatever all get together and they started complaining about something
and they go, what's a restaurant that you thought was cool as a kid,
but you think is crash now? And I'm like, you guys are
bashing businesses right after COVID Could you keep your mouth shuts cheeze? What the
hell doesn't matter? Young on, let's answer that question. What is the
restaurant? Thought? It was cool? It was a kid that you know,
it's like not good easy chucky cheese bomb. Yeah, and actually I
didn't hate chucky cheese pza. Whether I had my kid's birthday parties, there
wasn't bad. I didn't hate it. Not bad. Yeah, it's okay.
It's not beer, so that's good. Yeah. But they limit your
beard, did you know that? Yes, because they don't want drunk parents.
You don't wround with the kids. You do you drive home and you
there? What is wrong with you? What? I just said that they
limit a you know somebody who is someone who didn't drive whydns. They have
a couple of beers. They shouldn't be limited. I guess that's my whole
point where I'm going with that. Yeah, but you's got to be show
he can't have you drunk in front of the children. Well, I me
to not show you my license because I don't have it. Somebody's gonna get
in a fight with them. Nouse, Because I was like Chuck You've never
been drunk in front of your children? Oh no, No I have.
But what I'm saying is they don't want to be responsible for me. But
if I choose to get drunk in front of my children, that's just my
choice, right, I mean, that was my my bad. Yeah,
they did. There are times. There were times when I lived in Pittsford
that literally one time I had to be pointed in the direction of my house
to go just walk that way. That was at neighbors. We were walking
and I was still hammered, hammered, hammered. Is that Bill wandered through
the neighborhood again? The sounds really really bad, literally bad to my neighbor
once lives across the street. We had to point him in. Yeah,
you got a point and we pushed him again. Did Damien and Dan like
escort you to your house from the middle house? They did that once,
not not from how it, No, they did yesterday did uh well?
As the world is changing though too. I did see and we didn't really
talk about this much yesterday. But uh, CNN, I like the way
they say this because I don't think Tucker Carlson was fired. I know everybody
is going on great guns. You know, they parted ways and blah blah
blah and the view Hey look squawk box, Well, I know, not
my thing. I don't like where they step all over each other. I
don't really care. I just don't like any of them period. I don't
know anybody other than Whoopie that's on the show anymore, or maybe Joy,
But I don't think she was on for this, but it got announced on
their show yesterday. The word has just come down that Fox News Media and
Tucker Carlson have agreed to heart Ways. Well, thank you for a service
to that. We're going to host you require contribute ways. You know,
we'll talk more about it tomorrow because but we wanted to make sure that we
let you know what was going. Well, can I can I ask the
audience if they will help me do something? Come on, folks, na
na, I mean say nada. I don't think anyone likes to celebrate the
demise of someone's career. But he's but he is responsible for the demise of
someone's career. Yeh. But but he is responsible for the degradation that we
see somewhat of our democracy in this country. And I just think is a
faithful person, look at God, look at God. Well in Russian propaganda,
hardest hit. I mean, he's been the biggest purveyor of pro Russ
hockey. Yeah, so it's a good day for the Ukraine. Karma.
Carmon doesn't lose anyone's address, so well, it may misplace that address,
it does not lose. Those are some unpleasant bitches all wow. I mean
yeah, I mean, look, Tucker Carlson has gone hard at things,
and so people he's very polarizing, either love him or hate him. Fox
News lost that big lawsuit. It probably wasn't going to be profitable anymore to
I don't know what he was being paid. I know he was the most
viewed on that station. Yeah, so it may not have been profitable.
I'm gonna tell you right now. I think Tucker was already leaving. I
have heard rumblings, and I know people who were sort of in that associate
that they don't associate with Tucker, but they know Tucker. And he was
very intrigued and almost like what's happening here the Independent. He was really into
that, and he had started doing some documentary news style documentaries that I think
they were running on maybe some side Fox channel that was streaming only, and
I think he owned it. I think he owned the production of that kind
of stuff, and I think he wanted to do that. He wanted to
have his own shop and open it up. So I don't think that this
is necessarily a firing, I will tell you though. I do think it
was great that that came out the same day as Don Lemon and that dude
from NBC. They didn't get the headlines and there's were a little more scandalous,
you know. Don Levin said some I don't know some shit about Nicky
Haley or whatever else, and people are bitching about what a dva he used
to after he went after a co anchor yeah on the air and then made
her cry yeah, all that stuff. And then and then he had the
guy from NBC who had this inappropriate relationship, so they fired him with cause
he was like, he's big time management guy. I think it's like Mike
Shell or something like that. But he got let go. And then now
the Post has a big thing that this woman also had an affair with an
oil tycoon who was married, but she filed sexual harassment charges against him,
and then they were found by independent counsel to be, so he was fired
with cause. But again those things seem to get overshadowed by the Tucker Carlson
announcement. And I don't I don't know. I just thought I have never
I'd never really, I'd never watched them. I was never a fan of
Tucker Carlson. I don't get I know a lot of people who are.
But everybody said the same thing a couple points on this. Everybody said the
same thing when Bill O'Reilly got can they were doing the same thing. They
were celebrating, and who they replaced them with Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson at
that point was still considered a laughing stock. And they moved them in that
sea, and they moved them into that slot, and all of a sudden,
it's like anybody in that slot, if they have half a brain,
is gonna succeed if they, you know, continue to do the talking points
that Fox wants them to do it. I think Tucker even went beyond what
Fox wanted to do. And I think he and Fox class. The other
thing is he can make way more money, like you said, doing it
in the independently, and he knew this. He did a podcast, so
it'll be He'll be better than it was. A blessing. So they're gonna
replace this guy with somebody else. Is gonna be the next Bill All Riley
slash Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson's gonna be fine. But the thing is,
like, I love all the view goes. We're not gonna talk about this
today. Why because they don't have they're talking points or anybody whispering their ear
any facts because they have to be spoon fed everyone. Well, yeah,
the only thing I was like, it's not the demise of a career.
That's the only thing I would disagree with. It is not cheer and sing
and do all the bullet I don't care whatever, but the but it's not
the demise of career, right, I think if anything else this is,
you know, he's gonna go and make a ton more money. I'm not
more money. I'm not singing until they fire all of them from the view.
I hate that show. I hate them. There's nothing good about that
show. And I haven't watched in years and years, and I'm gonna tell
you, and I'll tell you why fair they can't get there. I don't
want to say it on air particular reason behind that. They can't do that.
I will tell you off fair enough. It's okay to talk about we'll
talk about it, all right. But they can't get their facts straight though,
to save their lives. Like they've done fact checks on the stuff that
comes up on the view that's wrong. Oh that's wrong. No, that
didn't happen. An opinion it is, it is, But you gotta gotta
have fact based opinion because they're doing the same thing they're accusing Tucker. Yes,
that's the same. By the way, Rachel Rachel Maddow does the same
thing. They call her the Democratic bill O'Reilly, Yeah, she's the same
way. But we like her because she is a nicer way about her.
She's a little more Thyris stopped with you when you get the vaccine. I'll
say it. I mean, I'll say, if you if you made me
um on that show. I'm tired of the victim race. Oh what do
you mean by celebrating victim hood? No, he's say you're saying in terms
of race, yes, race relations. Yeah, I mean that's a tough
one because, um, I think that there's a lot of times where we
don't even see what's happening in the world, you know what I mean,
Like I I can't A lot of people agree with what you're saying. There's
many, many, many, many many mans. Isn't a racial comment for
me. Maban might come out as it. But when I I why,
I have a guy that there's a guy on TikTok and he every day he
goes through what they see on the view. There's a lot of messed up
shit. If me and you were to say this, yes, you know
what being the other girls can say whatever that, if me and you were
to see it's like, I'm kind of uncomfortable talking about this right now,
right this is the kind of world we're living. It the double standard he's
talking absolutely. Yeah, like Jane Fonda going on saying that she is willing
to kill like Christians who stand up against abortion. She didn't say it like
that, but she pretty much said it. Right. But if that were
like, if the roles were reversed, then like you know, oh,
they need to be canceled. Well, it's a it's a it's tough because
you're talking about women who are already been basically marginalized by society for many,
many, many years. Right, we have one of the biggest women suffrages,
I understand, but women suffrages in our own city right with Susan B.
Anthony fighting for the you know, pushing for the right just to vote,
to have a voice to be heard. So I think that, you
know, the way I look at this stuff is the more you push against
shit, the worse it gets. The worse it gets, you want to
have a war, you want to call it a war on anything that guess
what You're gonna get a fucking war. Yeah, I just, I just,
I literally believe that. So I always sidestep that stuff, which may
be weak. But I don't know. When it comes to the race stuff,
I understand that some people feel like maybe it's gone too far, maybe
we've done I don't know. I've only been in this skin and I do
have uh nieces and nephews who are of mixed race, and I think that
there's there are some things that have been eye opening to me. And they're
from memes, by the way, they're from memes, like their dad is
a Chicago University of Chicago, which is considered the Ivy League of the Midwest
educated lawyer. So I can't I don't know, like I always go,
I don't like to weigh in on that because only because I don't know enough.
You don't know what you don't know. This is the thing. I
was like, I know, I know, like when I hear white privilege,
and I think that pisses people off, and I go, all that
means to me is when I get pulled over, I got less likely to
get in trouble than anybody else. Now, I had somewhat celebrity status in
this town, so I got a guy got pulled over and let go a
lot. I mean, I'm the mayor B Kennedy, you know, right,
but you understand what I'm saying. Like, but I also know that
I got pulled over. And I told these guys in the super ru that
I've given to my son. Right that car you saw me in, I
was driving, yeah, And I'm driving down the New York State Thruway a
couple months ago doing something like ninety and I got pulled over. And I
mean, you're in a twenty year old car. It's kind of questionable,
right, weird a little bit. And the guy said to me, I
just slow down. I said, it goes where you're going or you know.
And I don't even It wasn't even anything. I oh, I I
think I also I might have had I don't know something that I could have
pound we eat in the drunk. No, but I'm just saying like like
I've got no questions, like no questions. I don't know. People probably
listening right now going I don't fucking care man, Yeah, but I didn't.
I got no questions. It was literally on the New York State through
a pullover, walked up to the passenger window because you know, it comes
over, goes license registration. I say something to the guy, Hey,
he goes. Just slow that, sir, you're listening to Stepan Wolf.
That's it. That was it, So I Mark. All I can say
is to me, that's what they mean by white privilege. I can go
on with this about what's happened and why is it okay for the blacks to
say support black business. But if I was to say, come and support
my white business, it would be an issue. Well, I think because
so many times that we don't we don't have enough to support business. I
think black business has often been marginalized, forgotten in parts of cities that are
impoverished. We hear about food deserts and things like that. So I don't
know that it's necessarily a bad thing. I understand where people don't forget where
I worked for three years now, I know, so I at different There
are people who will have different experiences. I've experienced different things. I saw
people who are of all shades and they didn't act like good people. Right,
Oh, absolutely, okay, So I would I think that that that
does change people. I've known people who have been I've worked in in urban
environments and have said, you know, some of the people were great,
some of the people were the worst you'd ever say. I don't know,
I don't know. I an incident happened to me a couple of years ago
when I was going to work in Red Front. Yeah. Um, it
was the June. It was the Juneteenth Parade, and the parade wasn't wasn't
supported by the city, so they did it them So, yeah, they
did it themselves, and they got bikers and stuff like that. Well,
I was driving up Bandrew Street to go to work and I went through the
parade. I guess, I don't know, but I don't. I don't
know what I did. I still don't know what I did. This guy
to this very date says, I disrespect. I don't know how I did.
So I park. Can I go across the street and I'm going and
I have these three guys come up to me and they got a camera.
Well, first of all, I don't know who they are. Yeah,
I don't know what's going on what I did? All right? Then the
videos still around. They posted the video. We find it. I got
it on my phone. Can we play it? Absolutely, you can play
it. Like to play that video and I come off stupid, which is
fine, Well that's not all that different. Castro. Come on, I
didn't know what junteenth was. Okay, no wait now, hang on,
time out that I don't think that that's necessarily a bad thing to even admit,
because it was not something that was taught, wasn't or celebrated when you
were coming up. You're as old as I am, over fifty. You
didn't have that, So I can't. I'd like to think, like,
you know, I do know what it is, but I know that I
also have people in my life that are very conscious of it. Right if
you don't and you weren't aware, Now, the other thing is I know
you. I don't think you would be disrespectful. No, I really don't.
You may not agree with something, but you're not gonna I didn't even
know. I got it, but I know. But they didn't have at
the time, the permits to do the parade. The streets weren't closed.
You didn't get traffic alerts. Hey reroute here, and so you were just
going to work. You're just you're Mark. I didn't even I got it.
I got to see it. I got it. You're just like,
hey man. But the guy I found out is a big time lawyer in
the city. Yeah, so all of a sudden someone told him that guy
who got on video. He goes, he worked in the news channel for
for eighteen years. He has every New York every pool in New York State,
you know, news channels. So he's like, uh, he goes
all right, and he says, you can take it down. He never
did, Okay, So he has a Facebook. Yeah, and I check
his Facebook at all the time because I used to do it at BRD front
and see where where they were going to going. They're the kind of he's
the kind of guy that goes and helps these neighborhoods, but he's doing it
with his phone. Making sure that you know when he runs from politics,
did he has that? Not like Nick Pinon, who I work for.
We give food to the people and stuff like that. I understand. So
I know I'm going a little off. I get what you're saying. You're
saying that this is a person who seems to be an opportunitist that's taking advantage
of maybe his own people in a way, not but helping him. But
I spent more time on Clinton Avenue than this guy. Daddy. Well,
look again, I can't. I mean we can. We can compare this
too exactly that the city is doing right now. Right, the city right
now is suing Kia and Hyundai. Now I talked to Steve Circue. This
is a civil matter. He's a defense attorney. But while play some of
that when we come back, and we'll find your video because we got to
play that too now now that you went down this fucking road. But I
would I don't know. I mean, I think, like the city of
Rochester suing the I try to go open minded because I think the first knee
jerk reaction we talked about this last night is one to say, how about
you fucking behave why do we have to blame the car manufacturers. Why don't
we just behave How do we get people to stop stealing? As Sheriff Baxter
off off air and I hope I'm not speaking even off record, told me
there's been one young person who's been arrested six times for stealing cars and let
back out. Now that's not something that they would like to see, right,
So, but that's a lot, right how many before we make it
a little more. That's not Keya's fault, that's not Hyundai's fault. Did
they I mean, they didn't knowingly. And Steve will bring up some good
points. I'll play this back for you. I talked to him earlier today.
But I think to me that has a little bit of political grandstanding.
And yet at the same time, and I said this last night when Malie
Evans was talking the mayor of Rochester about this, and Cleveland's doing it,
San Diego's doing it, Seattle's doing it, Buffalo is doing it, and
now Rochester is. They're all doing It's all separate lawsuits that they're coming they're
maybe, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. And Steve even said this,
if Kia and Hundai settle because they don't want to look like monsters,
right that are doing things to purposely put people at risk of losing their items
or not being safe in any way, or just not caring or not caring.
And I think that so, but it who's gonna get the money,
where's this gonna go? And what happens? And it looks great because you
know, I'm kind of rambling here, but they like a grandma who lost
her car is really inconvenience the family who's working on dual incomes and somebody can't
get to work, and maybe it's a a salary job but an hourly job,
and you need to get there in order to get your money, and
you can't because your car has been impounded, and now it becomes a bigger
expense and a bigger albatross around your neck, and maybe you gotta wait a
day to get you see, I mean, the person who gets fucked is
the is the person who got their car stolen. But I don't know that
that's necessarily Hyundai or Keya's fault, right, right, So the problem is,
like you know, Danny brought up, I think last night Pinto Pinto
had the gas tank in the back and people I should have a reasonable expectation.
And Steve even touches on this that if I'm driving my car and somebody
does isn't paying attention and they drive into the back of me, that my
family afford isn't gonna die a fiery death. That's what was happening. That's
a reasonable expectation to sue a manufacture. There is no reasonable expectation when you
buy a car that it's not gonna get stolen. There's no way to I
mean, right, if no one can predict that. There are things the
anti FF wait till somebody figures out how to circumvent that, what do we
do that? And so these are the things. But to your point,
sometimes it does seem like political opportunists. And I would say that, and
it's just it's just why are you Why are you uh, you know,
surrounding a middle aged white guy, you know, because you're a middle aged
white guy going through something that to them was very disrespectful. It's all comes
from perspective. Shouldn't seven shouldn't shouldn't that be? Shouldn't they be worried about
the shootings every night? Shouldn't we all be worried about it? You know
what I'm saying. It's like I would think that I think that most of
the city is I think that people are scared and they don't say anything,
right, I really do. I truly do believe that. I don't think
anybody in the city likes what's happening there. I right, But I think
in that moment, it wasn't about the shootings. No, it was about
celebrating a heritage and something that people that have been marginalized, and most people
that can trace their history back to being enslaved here. So that's what that
was. Here comes a white guy driving to the videos. Hey, guys,
what need it having a black party? It's great? Well, you
know what I mean. I think that's how they saw you. I know
you, I know you. You're a big dumb teddy bear. Yeah,
well you're a big teddy bear. But I think you wouldn't do ever ever
join. The other part of this is I think when you get cornered,
you also, oh, no, what do you want me to do?
I had three guys, I don't know what's gonna happen, right, don't
forget what happened to me a couple of weeks ago. So I was so
you know, I always had to be on Yeah, watch what I say
it, watched pay six. I didn't know what's going to happen. I
didn't realize it was some young powerful attorney who was worried about me and he
should be you know, maybe he should be worried about other things and worried
about me and what I'm doing. Yeah, I think that sometimes we all,
all of us focus sometimes on the wrong thing, but we're in the
moment, and that was in the moment that's on when they you know what
I mean, it's you think emotionally first and then rationally second. I think
everybody that's that's a fact. I mean, we all we need your That's
why I always try in these situations because it's not anything that's impacting me right
now. What mayor Evans says doesn't impact me right now. So I try
to step back and look at it and go if I live in the city,
I like knowing someone's gonna fight for me a little bit here because I'm
really screwed. This really fucked up my world, having my car stolen.
But at the same time, I think if we look at it almost logically,
I don't know how you win this, but I wouldn't be surprised if
the car guys settle. All right, we'll take a moment. I want
to hear this video of you. I do. If you can find it,
we'll see. We'll see if you can patch it in right here.
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there. Yeah, I think it was the late fifties because I'm watching Missus
Maizels Marvelous and it's in episode I'm in season four and who's the guy that
she was on tour with and then kicked her off because she basically told everybody
he's gay without saying he's gay. It was a sig something. Yeah.
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he was singing with him. Yeah. Yeah, May he rest in
people I did see today. Speaking of Sesame Street, the woman who played
the Wicked Witch of the West was once on Sesame Street. Oh real,
Wizard of Oz. They got so many complaints, including an adult to the
children's counsel with an adult saying I have had a hard time sleeping since seeing
her on that They never ever aired it ever again. It is considered the
lost episode of Sesame Street, and I think you can now find it online.
Was she playing herself? Was yeah? Yeah, oh wow witch?
Was she in black and white? Uh? That woman just looked it was
bad. I go, I don't think they did much makeup. She just
looked played herself looked out way. He went. Yeah, there's not much
else you could have played in Hollywood. Oh my, you know what I
mean? Yeah? Yeah. So she finally gets work again after what okay,
which boss came out in thirty seven? I think there's a stouteen seventy
six, So okay, So thirty nine years later, she finally gets another
job. And by the way, and they can't very recognizable as the Witch.
That's one of those people that like Wilfred Brimley, you were just fucking
old when you popped on the planet. It's just always looked, always,
always looked at home. It's the same age as what ted Tom Cruise.
And like when Tom Cruise is doing Mission Impossible, he's doing all his own
stunt. He's doing studs and hanging off the side of the other guys.
The other guy's taking his blood. Yeah, check your blood sugar. Well,
look all right. And he lived to be in his eighties. Yeah,
he did because he kept checking his blood sugar. So his Quaker roats.
We had mentioned. Uh, Mark was saying that he had a video
where he was confronted by people not knowing that there was a Juneteenth parade before
it was a national holiday, which I believe now it is, Yes,
it is, yeah, and uh most places are shut down. I think.
I think most people who had no idea what Juneteenth is are like,
yeah, I'll take But it was a day just basically to commemorate the freedom
of slavery, the abbossment of slavery, and some of the accomplishments that people
have made to the society over the years. But they had this parade in
Rochester and it wasn't an official where the city shut streets down, but they
had blocked off streets, and I don't think anybody was interfering with anything.
I think that no one knew really what to do, right, probably in
the city. Well, I have a reason why they did it, but
I don't want to say it because then I come off as an asshole.
Again, Well, you are an asshole, so just to brace your assholeness.
They saw, they saw a fat, freaking, middle aged white guy
a crossing the street. That's not what I'm saying. That wasn't what I
was saying. What I'm saying. They had parade. We have the parade,
but the parade when they had it was not sanctioned by the city.
In other words, let's say I'm trying to Saint Patrick's Day parade, Labor
Day parade. They shut down the streets and you can't drive through there.
They didn't shut down the streets officially, No, no, because the city
hadn't, So you didn't know, and there was no warning. There was
no police officers say hey move, you know what I mean, even a
road race they shut down the streets, right, They didn't do that,
so you didn't know, and you came in and you were going to work
right, right, And I think that you're right. I do think perception
in that it's someone who's being disrespectful to something we're doing here, and in
their mind everybody knew about it, and in your mind you had no clue.
Right, Yeah, I understand it. Co Yeah, this is how
misunderstanding has happened. And then that's why we need to the conversation that every
I think you would have been more understanding if things were explained to you,
but you didn't know. He didn't. I didn't go. There's the thing,
if you look at the video, I didn't. I mean it was
way over. I didn't really do anything wrong, Okay, I was just
going in the traction video. I haven't heard of this. I haven't seen
it or heard it. I thought you had it on your phone. Didn't
you attack give it? I couldn't. Yeah, No I didn't. Yeah,
it had it connected to the broadcaster, to the roadcast you did bluetooth?
Yeah, it connected hit play play it. Watch this. You're gonna
be amazed at this. Whose stomach is gurgling? I have no idea.
It's not, dude. Somebody's stomach just gurgled like that. I think it's
the it's not the fridge. This is it playing now, buddy? Yeah,
all right, never mind, I didn't I didn't hook up to it.
All right, that's why I give it, says I phone thirteen promax
that you. Yeah, I should be connected. There, turn your volume
up. Fancy white guy with his fancy phone. There we go. That
went by. So they were young at him. Okay, and here comes
to me, here comes me. I stop. I wonder why a car
is coming at me? And car is coming right at me. So I
go and I turn around, I go, and I go right to the
liquor store. There go you know. Yeah, so that now they will
walk over to me. Yeah, crossing the street. When I go after,
I go in pirate get the liquor star. What is that? Is
that? All right? So this is a juneteenth parade that wasn't getting much
recognition by the city or maybe none at all in the populace from I would
know, right, I mean, if it was from the city, we
would have got to notice. It's a star. So I got it.
I got Okay. Now they're coming to talk to me. Yeah, that's
my blue car. Yeah holiday all right? All right, So I'm walking
across the street traffic, so I was like a bear today. All right,
this is this is a little tough. I want to I just why
mind you to watch the video? That's all right, keep going, okay,
now it'll start. I'm walking across the street right now, here we
go. I'm going right here we go. I'm getting out of my car.
No, hello, so we remember me, remember me just a second
ago? You have something to say? Now you should be celace. You
know what today is. Guess what? I know where you're going. We
can't just have a little conversation. Sure it's June teeth. You are very
rude. Thank you. Celebrate June tee. Be a good black person,
be a good white person. Celebrate can celebrate Joe. You know what June
teeth is? Oh yeah, what is your teeth? What is that meaning?
Because if I fucking pisses me off every time, no like generically could
be any what what is June tee? June teenth is with black deerate what
folks like you unknowingly, whatcknowingly intertentionally and all aud your barn where it's slaving
black folks. So I can't shake that head. I don't know if you're
watched it. Okay, you understand, we don't try to give me a
house once. I'll get yourself right on the other white people the food,
I know, hold on, hold on, you're missing something really important here.
I go to shake his hand and listen to what he says to me.
I heard him he wouldn't I didn't know if it was washed that already
played. Okay, yeah, I heard that, and then I heard him
say you would bring it to your aboms apple. So when I hear that,
I can understand where you would be frustrated and mad. I really can.
I I would say, like with anybody, like why you're what's the
saying you attract more flies with honey than you do with vinegar When you're coming
that hard, I don't care who you are. White people referred to Karen's
when they come that hard that way? Are they not sure? Okay?
So I would think like you have a butt. At the same time,
I think Juneteenth is a day that was not recognized and is starting now.
I think only what in the last two year years two years that has been
a national holiday. But prior to that, you didn't know what it was.
You tried to answer the question you weren't being rude to the guy.
I don't know that you can be, like you put yourself in danger by
going at cars when you're walking him. He went in my car. I
didn't go I didn't go near the parade. No, that's the problem.
Yeah, I understand. I get it, and I can see where the
frustration is, Like, I don't know, that's my that's the neighborhood did
I worked there for many years and and the man I worked for it was
there for fifty years. Yeah, this is a rich kid. This is
a rich kid from Brighton. Yeah, who never ever ever goes in Clinton
Avenue? Who does it? Because he's trying to be Malcolm X? All
right, Well, look I can't speak to that. I don't know,
but I would say to me, it sounds like somebody who's got you ever
have somebody go what else is going on in their day? Somebody you know,
where someone kind of gives you a hard time about something, and what
else is going on in their day? What happened? What was it that
led to this? Because to me, you were polite, you didn't know
there was nothing. I understand where you're frustration in it, And I think
this is the sort of stuff that strains even worse some of the tensions that
we see racial tensions. Right it is, And he said ugly. I
but I kind of didn't know. I gotta admit it's sort of funny.
I knew you would. I'm sorry, kid. I hear Mark going,
uh, it's today, We're uh yeah, I know what it is.
I know it is or United. I mean, hey, bro, I'd
be shipping my pants too if if a bunch of if if three guys came
up to me and they weren't coming up to me to say I didn't know
who they were. But you understand what I'm saying, like, I don't
know that I did anything wrong. I have no idea. I'm just minding
my business, trying to go to work. I you did apologize, which
heaped back down pretty quick because he said, I I appreciate that he said
something to that effect in the in the video. Did Am I hearing it
wrong? Danny? You heard that? Did you? Yeah? There was?
I mean, he came back, but he did say after he made
the comment about shaking my no, that was that was dirty, my dirty
white hand. He didn't say that, he said, I hadn't he didn't
say dirty white hand, white dirty white hand. He said, I don't
know that you washed your hands. Just funny because it was this around the
time of COVID. No, when did this happen? Uh, two thousand
and twenty one. Ok, that's COVID. That's COVID twenty two twenty two
is to cut off, that's COVID. Bro, they're still talking about COVID.
Look at but do you see now? Wait, weren't telling you from
our perspective. What I really think it was was a COVID thing. It
had nothing to do whether you were white or not. But you don't our
wrong, Bill, that was a total reshot thing would happen. Yeah,
tell your people, Tell your people. If I was to see to him,
that's tell your people. That's fair that he did say that, that's
they were rash because here, but here's the thing. You're white. You
didn't know what it was. Tell your people that could be your friends or
whatever. Friends, though, Danny, I understand, and I know what
I know where you both are saying. But just put it this way.
You didn't know if if I, like, if I said to you,
tell your people people that you hang out with people you know, because you
didn't know what it was. If you okay, we can disagree that was
racially motivated towards a white guy. Yes, I will say that the thing
was probably was racially motivated. I also would say that you're talking about a
group of people for many, many many years have been marginalized and given less
than treated. You can't. I mean, look, even in the marvelous
Missus masl right, they didn't they have to bring food out to somebody because
they couldn't go into the certain restaurants when they were playing certain parts of the
country. Go ahead, but I didn't do anything I know in that one.
I will admit that. But you handled it well. I had no
choice. I didn't know if I was gonna get shot. Well. I
don't think you're gonna get shot well, Bill, I don't know when three?
When three? What are you supposed to think? First of all,
I question that neighborhood. I would think it's threatening. I don't know what
would happen if three white, three white guys surrounding black you know, three
white guys surrounded a black guy, it would be it would be I'm racially
motivated. Maybe it would be maybe get out of our neighborhood. Well,
it would be. It would be if there was nothing going on. I
mean, would know if I'm to bring up to bring some of my motorcycle
of friends, I'm down there and they're they and they circle one of the
guys who did that, and then and then it's an issue. It's not
an issue that they surrounded a white guy, but it would be an issue
if they surrounded a black guy. I'm sorry marking the BT pople. I
don't yeah, I mean, I don't know how many times anything but people
getting surrounded ever gets it raised up to the level of an issue, you
know, like in terms of what in terms of what are you saying,
I don't know what you're saying. All I'm saying is is that I worked
there for three years, and we all know what happened to me there.
So I'm three right, I got robbed and he got an the parents ticket
and he's still on the street, you know what. And so okay,
that's why I don't work there anymore, and that's why I'm doing I'm doing.
But what I'm trying to say is it would be an issue, and
it would probably be all over the place if three white guys surrounded a black
guy, probably just like I told you, Probably just like I told you,
a family dollar was being robbed. A cop shoots the robber. The
robber, the guy's a black man, has a gun on two Spanish girls.
Happens to have a cop in the in the store. The cop shoots
him. This gentleman I'm talking about on his Facebook what's his name? His
name is Diallo Paine. Okay, and um, very very smart gentleman,
I would say, very educated. Um, he's worried about how the shoot,
how the robber was treated by the Copah, not know, that's just
it anytime a cop, the CoP's hands are tied in the city right now,
and that's obviously what happens. Because I have a guy that came in
and robbed my plays and he's on an appearance ticket. Yeah, they have
their hands tie. Well, they're trying to do things the law is and
it's and I think it they need to rework something because the idea is that
if you steal a pack of gum, right, you don't get detained and
not be able to go to work and not try to keep contributing to society.
Because he did something as simple as you know, rob the liquor I
mean robbed the liquor store. Now, look to you, it's a big
deal because you were the one robbed. You were the one who had that
trauma. I'm not going to deny that that's a scary situation. You were
also the guy who was confronted by three guys. But I would assume if
somebody's got a camera that nothing, They're not going to do anything to incriminate
themselves. At least that's work that you don't think. You're absolutely right.
But you don't think that at first, of course. No, no,
no, I understand I might, but that's me only because I'm gonna because
you're smarter. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying at
all. I just try to assess situations really fast if I can, And
that would be the first thing that popped in. At least I would think.
I wouldn't want to make it confrontational. I wouldn't want to. I'm
not saying somebody might hit you, but I'm thinking that something like a gun
isn't gonna be brandished if the camera's on it. That doesn't mean anything.
What do you do? Why do you look like he's looking at me like
you're looking at him, like do something I want. No, I just
thought you were gonna support it. Yeah, no, I'm looking for support.
No, I don't say. Guys, bro, I guess the way
that guy talked to you. I bet you everybody listening didn't like any of
it. Right. That doesn't help you sell your cause, does it.
I that's not the way he's talked to you. No, it doesn't.
You're right, And if the roles were reversed, yes, there probably would
be an issue saying that I'm saying the same way he talked to you.
I get it. I get it, and not knowing I get it.
But the other side is there's a whole group of people who came to this
country not by any choice of their own. My people came to get out
mine too, all of them. What go ahead? I just think,
yes, that it's an excuse to be a fucking asshole. Okay, I'm
sorry, it's it's just say that I'm not an excused. Well, I
think that some people I'm not gonna see all. I shouldn't think that again.
We could say that about anything, and you can look at Karen's and
say the same thing. Right, we see the shut up their phones.
I just watched on Twitter. I was so upset the other day on Twitter.
I saw a fight. I saw I forget some other person harassed.
I saw this woman yelling at a Chinese woman and the woman who had parked
the car. White woman was over the line a little bit, and the
woman said I can't get out or something she's and she starts screaming, go
back to your country. We hate you. Like it's all called on camera.
I don't know if this stuff is real, if it stays to try
to get read happens. Yes, So my point is on all sides,
it's bad sometimes, you know, I think you're the best thing to do
is to just be kind. But I ran into the guy again. Okay,
he was doing they do. What they do without error, is to
get is He has like a kind of like a food bank. So they
set it up in different places. Okay, So they happen to set it
up right in front of the on the street, right in front of the
liquor store. He didn't know I worked at the liquor store. I got
out of the car. All of a sudden, I'm standing there and I'm
looking. I'm going, holy shit, that's him. Okay. So I
walked out there, shook his hand. I go, hey, you do
alone? He goes, yeah, I go, he shake my shake my
hands. Not dirty right now? Huh? And he goes looks at me,
and I go, explain to me what I did wrong and what did
he say? I disrespected him? But he doesn't remember why I disrespected him.
He like, to him, that meant nothing to me. That's been
with that's been on me for two years. You know what I mean to
him? I was just another day whatever, you know. So I said
to him, I said, I go, um old man Nick, the
owner, owner of the whole building, was sitting in there with me.
I said, you might to come in and discuss it when you're done here.
He couldn't get out of there fast enough. Okay, all right,
look, I don't know. I can't answer any of these questions for you.
I have no idea. I just tell you. I'm just telling you
what I know. But I would say that you're basically saying this guy's a
troublemaker in your opinion. Hold on, yes and no, Okay, Like
I said, he's very very educated. Yes, he's gone through school.
He's very smart. Okay, he has his own No, but I think
he's trying to be I think he's trying to be um a vigilante. Do
you think he's trying to Okay, And I think some people see him as
trying to lift people who don't have a voice up right, And I think
he's sticking out for his people. Yeah, okay, I am nothing wrong
with that, right, But don't come in, don't come at me.
I had nothing to do with that, all right. I went up the
street. He knew that it wasn't city, it wasn't so so hang on
a second. So what you're saying is what you experienced is what the black
man experienced in the nineteen fifties just for the shade of their skin. That's
exactly what it is, if you think about it. Just so, I'm
not saying it's right, and I'm not saying it wrong. I'm not.
All I'm saying is you're basically going, I didn't do anything, and you're
yelling at me because I'm white and I didn't know what you don't tell your
people. My point is I'm not saying that that should be. We should
find a way to eliminate all that eradicate all that. Right, But for
many, many years, it was told you're black, get out of my
neighborhood. But that's not his neighborhood. It's my neighborhood. Okay, I'm
saying, if you went back in history, right, that's what that is.
So now this is somebody who probably grew up here in story after story
about being put down or being here or being anything. Come on, So
it doesn't make it right, No, but you kind of you, but
you also obsessed on this for two years. And in that moment that guy,
it's done. It's done for at because and because you don't you don't
want to be considered racist. No I don't, and you're not not.
But but he but you know, I mean, I, like I said,
I was down on Clinton Avenue for three years. Yes, I don't
have racist So I met some of the greatest people and some of the people
we all you know what I mean, it's the greatest p People are people.
People are people, like what what a good person is a good person?
A fucking asshole is a fucking asshole. I'll show you about seven white
guys that I hate him. I hate right here, there's two I actually
hate white people. So it's like you get something in common. Yeah,
right, that offends me. I don't think. I don't even think that
guy hates white people. I'd like to get him on you. I haven't
discussion. I want to message him. Yeah, do you wan him to
come in? And you why I'm on the phone. Either one, bring
him in, either one. I have no problem. I think that this
is the stuff that when when there is the one part that bothers me with
a lot of things is we need to have a discussion. Okay, And
I think you can do the discussion with him. I really did. Let's
have a discussion. Let's have a discussion. Agree, and but you have
to when you do that, you've got to try to keep emotions out of
it, which are hard because most of our stuff comes from feelings, the
way we were treated, the memories we have, those things all paint our
perception in life does so I don't know what experienced this person has, and
like I've said, because it's all I know is this skin, and all
I know is that it's been okay. But there's a weird rest easy,
there's a weird respect I have for this guy, which is really weird.
Okay, but it's not. But I respect this guy and he's trying and
he's trying to lift her, he's trying to do something. Right. You
contradict yourself. I don't contradict myself. Ye see, I know you don't.
What I'm saying is I like to I would like instead of him coming
at me and blaming me forever you know what, he wasn't blaming you for
everything that's you take this on, you turn it you, you show ten
people that video. Nine are gonna agree with me? Well, I'm not
not, no, no, no, I'm saying I'm saying that he the
way about it is wrong. I'm just saying, from his perspective, whatever
was going on, parade roots, whatever, he felt like, you were
interrupting something that was important to people, and as a white guy, you
weren't respecting it and you didn't know what it was when he asked you.
Right, I'm not mocking you. I'm just saying, so now take that
from whatever perspective he has and there you go. Okay, and that's how
he sees you dirty? What moment, don't you see? I mean maybe
I'm wrong, Mark. In a moment, people can have a million things.
We'll go around in a circle on this, but I'd like to talk
to him. We have to do the mystery guest and Kevin guest. But
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I'm a Victor Chrysler Dodge jeep ram line at five eight five two o six
eighty eight sixty six of a bitch bill. I couldn't freaking slete. So
I'm listening to the podcast and Stephanie the dream girl Stephanie, Oh my goodness,
dream girl for about three weeks sounds about right. Um, But anyways,
Roberto Duran, you fucking idiot? Shop was Roberto Duran? Fuck me?
Danny, come on anyway, Stephanie called me. Can be sure to
like and subscribe tibilified wherever you get Your podcast had a muted because I knew
you assholes or talk all over that. I had to wait because I see
Danny waving and gesticulating. I just wanted to end. The end was funny
to me. Yeah, by the way, yeah it was Roberto Duran.
You were the one who said, I don't just talking about what he agreed
with me? I think I did? Yeah, we all, yeah,
I am was that what it was? I should have said something, so
he's right, does he something say something? Our mystery guests has been holding
patiently and I think they're on a time crunch. Is that correct? They
might be on an So is this someone I worked with in the in the
past, Yes, okay, would be from someone when around an arrow where
Mark Hillman and I may have worked with him? Yes, yeah, uh
it was it somebody who's on air? Yes, somebody who's on air?
And was he on the same station? Yes, so he was on CMF
All right, go ahead, well boy already? Yeah, how about Dino's
not it's not um so somebody Crones? It's not Crones? Is it Tommy
Mark French? Mark Frenchise? Not Mark French? Clue his former partner was
a mystery guest his former is it? Is it? Bj? BJ?
Wait? BJ? Got b got out the shit? BJ? How are
you? Man? Hey, Billy, what's up, buddy? I can't
believe it. It's so funny. I just saw BJ online as a guest
on somebody else's podcast. Oh that's right. Yeah, I'll go anywhere,
Billy. I can't get enough attention, you know that, So listen.
I it's so funny because I was thinking of people and I want to do
another podcast called Radio Days, and it would just be about the weird shit
you experienced while in radio. And I know I know you've done I know
you've experienced a lot. I mean I'm talking like whatever went on with management
stuff or I mean BJ did everything. BJ sat in a bowl of Lucky
charms on Saint Patrick's Day. They filled up. He and Bull filled up.
He did right too. Yeah, oh yeah, oh gosh, no
he didn't eat. He did high highlight of my career. Really, I
there was nowhere to go but John after But Baj, I mean I was
always so impressed because uh BJ came was they were building a bench because of
Wee's and all this. They bring him back and he was one of the
most popular personalities in Rochester on the radio. People loved him with on the
WII show. Was really probably one of weez is better people on his show.
Uh. Then all of a sudden, well it's all true. And
then you went out to Seattle and you wound up doing a midday talk show,
and I think there was there was some ship that went on there.
If I'm not mistaken, Well, you know, Billy model employee. So
you know, I can't really take a job without actually having management trying to
see it. Perhaps I would be better outside of the building. Yeah,
but see, but here's the thing. For the last how many years have
you been a is a ks w am? I getting them right now away?
Yeah, I spend two thousand and six, whatever the math is on
that. Yeah. And number one, I mean for a long time it
was you or Bob Rivers number one sometimes in people, which is really the
money demographic and radio. So I'm in any what is Seattle the thirteenth largest
market in radio? Yeah, we're We're somewhere in that vicinity. I'll say
number I'll say we're the number one market. The hell with you, Yorky?
All right? Uh? Why not? You go? Oh, yeah,
Well, it's because it's because of our mascot. Everybody just loves Booie.
Actually, I don't think anybody loves Booye even what we do around here,
but the whole league seems to hate the guy. The dude from Spitting
Chicklets can't stand Booye AND's got a big rivalry with him. So I think
that's kind of fun. Um. But yeah, you know you know what,
Billy, Look, I I've been you and I both know when you
get to work with somebody who's you know, who's who's the quality of talented
Weeze is one of the best the industry's ever seen. You know, just
through osomosis, you get lucky enough to learn a few things that maybe you
give him somehow be successful somewhere. And for me that's just in the case.
Plus I got a lot of great people around me. Now that's why
I've been able to, you know, keep the job for since two thousand
and six. But prior to that, Yeah, I was my own worst
enemy. And like you said, Billy, plenty of great stories. There'll
be a lot of great stories about really how I how I babymade radio interesting
for other people, the other poor bastors that had to work with me.
Well, yeah, you you've I think you. I don't want to say
you've changed. I'd like to think people evolve. Would that be fair to
say? Yeah? The best example I'll give you don't. Did you guys
ever know Mark Marin? Did you ever interact with him before he got all
mentally healthy, like when he would come in town and do interview. No,
I do know who he is, but I didn't know. So so
Marcus got this fantastic podcast, and really any reason being is is that he
went and started doing all this mental health work he came on my show one
time, and he and I were both just brothers and misery. Everybody who
was with him from the comedy club hated him. Everybody who was working with
me hated me, but we both loved each other complaining about why the world
sucks so bad. And that was before he got his podcast, and then
and then Mark is, uh, you know whatever. Ten fifty years later,
Mark is going to be our show and Markley the first thing he says
it gets on the show, he goes, oh boy, buddy, He
said. I looked down the list of all the shows that I was gonna
be on and I saw your name, And he said, I wonder,
has this guy figured it out? Or is he still a mess like I
was? And that and we both had a good laugh about how we really
had a lot of issues and luckily he found his way. Luckily I think
I found my way, you know, to some degree, defending on who
you're talking to, but yeah, well, if evolving is good, I
just think I realized that, you know what, if I can just be
like responsible for everything in my own life, I'm going to have a better
life rather than keep thinking that it's other people keeping me from whatever. That's
the key. Nothing happens to you. Everything is brought. You brought it
on yourself in some way. Can you go, baby? Literally everything bill,
Yeah, the book bill, that's it right there, but it is
literally everything is that. But what I was going to say, BJ,
is I remember seeing you and you would be uh you. You were a
big fan of like is Tom likes and you had that that kind of style
too, and you would go at things pretty hard. One of the things
that I absolutely think that you I want to say, and I know you're
going to be very humble about this, but it was the BJ Shay experience.
Correct. Wasn't that the name of the show? Yeah? And that
was the name of the show. Yeah. And then you had a great
producer and Steve miss oh yeah. And then one day you said you're doing
as much work as me or you're doing whatever, and you now call the
show BJ and Micks. And there's not many guys that would do that because
radio. I mean, come on, man, we all have to we
gotta be honest. You sit behind a microphone, you gotta have a fucking
ego, right, You stand on the stage and think you can make a
bunch of strangers laugh, you're a little fucked up. And but to be
able to see, but to step back and see the value in somebody else,
that change that made me think, the world are you? When I
saw that, truly, well, thank you, Thank you, Billy.
I know, and I will take I will take that. I know that
a lot of people have been very surprised by that. And here's the thing.
I was a number two guy, number three guy, number four guy
so much in my career, so I knew what it was like to be
a sidekick. I knew what it was like to not get bonuses. I
knew it was like to see everybody celebrate with the champagne classes and then like,
you know, I'm still making minimum wage even though I'm on a number
one show. So I always thought if I ever got in a driver's seat
in a position to really reward somebody the best way that I could. And
Steve makes our whole show. He does everything I really am. Honestly,
I think if they took a look at the like the amount of output of
work that's done by me compared to Steve, I think they would be like,
what are you doing here? Why? Boy? I mean so to
me, Billy he's so deserved it. And by the way, he never
asked for that. Yeah, and I just wanted to change He just wanted
to change his name to makes because he hated being called see the producer,
because he got no respect from a lot of people. They never realized what
he did. And I said, dude, if you want respect, the
only way to get respect is your name is going to be on the show.
Do you know what? I make people understand no matter how much you
tell them, how much you do, they go, oh, yeah,
you're just a producer. But if your name is on the Marquis. Yeah,
So I said, we'll put your name on the Marquise. That's what
you want is respect? The only way to get us to do that.
And I remember the program it was really we have a great program director.
But I remember I told him I wanted to do that and he goes,
what do you what? And that was like he did. That was like
the first maybe five minutes of the conversation. He hangs up the phone.
Next thing you know, he closed a back A half hour later. He's
got T shirt designs, he's got all these ideas. He's liked. Ever,
let's just go ahead and do it, and you know, in credit
to the PD for understanding how great it was to be able to recognize and
a lot of our listeners love Steve, so to them, they were like,
it's about time, And it really was like a lot of people had
the kind of response you did, Bill and well deserves. Steve is one
of the best talents in the business, and I'm happy that he now gets
the proper respect that he's due. But mej what was the change with you
a little bit? Because to be like I remember I remember by I know,
well, it wasn't really therapy because you used to go listen, man,
here's what I love about Beach now right, And I knew Beach more
in a I think I got to know BJ better when he was in Seattle
than I did when he was even here. But BJ had Does your daughter
still work? I know your daughter just got married, congratulations, I saw
that. Thank you. I do follow you on social media? And then
your son? Does she and your son work on the show? They both
do. Joey's more behind the scenes. But any time that he's given the
opportunity to talk about what a what a horrible parent, I was love to
come on the microphone right, and yeah, so they're both on. Yeah,
but I think that's pretty cool. But I go back, man,
I remember seeing BJ fucking raising hell at Morning Show boot camp. Yeah,
they had Remember they had a women's paddle. What were you? Yeah,
what was the whole thing? Do you remember what was that about? Well,
you know, there was many women. There were many women's panels,
and many panels where I lost I lost my mind, Billy, So you'll
have to be a little bit more. I just remember one word, like
I think they came out. I think I heard a broad beaches at it
again. Yeah, they're talking about how it's the struggle being a woman in
broadcasting. And you got up there and said, have you ever hung up?
Have you ever hung up upside down in the soccer net with your balls
hanging out and getting kicked by a soccer ball in the nuts? No,
don't tell me how it's so hard to be a woman in broadcasting or something
like that. I don't remember. Yeah, it was I was having been
basically humiliated in so many different ways, you know, as a as a
producer or the stunt guy or whatever, as the way we work up.
I mean, that's just not something they did to women a lot back then
because they you just didn't do it. And so I had a big chip
on my shoulder hearing about, Oh, you don't know how tough it is,
and actually, you know, upon further review, it is really tough
to be a non white person trying to be anything in the world. But
at the time, I was too busy in my own world thinking, oh,
you know what, my life is tough. I don't care about anybody
else's life, so that you know. So uh so, yeah, I
was on a rant about that um at that point. And again that was
pre therapy, where I was pretty much very narcissistic and the world was all
about me. Pain was all about me. Everybody was out to get me.
So you wouldn't been able to reason with me in that state of mind,
ever, which is why Weez would always just go Jesus. I mean
he would always go, Pj's on the rag. Again, that shouldn't even
do it. He wasn't wrong, he was not wrong at all. But
now it's funny because now with your your daughter in the business, and and
you're right it is. I think it's an evolved thinking and I don't like
in our world today is that we'll go back to that time and if you
put out a tweet, we'll you know, pull it up from rub it
in your face. And what why would we do that if all we want
is the end result of who you are today? Right? Do you see
what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, Billy, Here's the thing.
What I found is that And I'll just speak for myself. I am a
sis gendered, heterosexual, Caucasian old dude, and the world does not have
a shortage of opinions from that demographic. So people just don't want to hear
from us anymore. And it's because that's all they've ever heard. And it's
so even even if I have the cure for cancer, it's like they're not
going to want to hear it from me because they're just so jaded. And
I can't really blame them because I have been to so many panels myself when
I was a young dude, so many old white guys just telling me how
to do a business, when it's like, you are so clueless, No,
you don't even know what you're talking. They won't even listen, they
don't even know how just clueless they are. So I can understand now that
I look like those people, am I It's hard to you know, it's
really hard to hear anything that I have to say. So now what I
do is I go find somebody. I go find somebody who has looks like
a person that other people listen to. I wish from the area and go,
hey, guys saying this, this might work. And then they go
out and say it and they look like, yeah. But what I'm saying
bj is in the world we live in today, someone could go back in
time right and find a tweet you may have put out that may be considered
as misogynistic or something. And what I'm saying is, even though we've evolved
and changed, and that's the end result of what most people want it just
to show you the error of your ways and how maybe you should evolved now
that you have. But we go back and dig it up and rub your
nose in it and try to push you out and go, well, this
guy should reize what are we doing here? Why? Well, yes,
weaponize. Yeah, you know, Billy, that is and that is like
the first rule of therapy. And look, if you asked, I have
been I've been in therapy for tons of years. I am heavily in therapy
because I'm just my mind is the same and if I don't k if I
don't figure out what's going on, I'm miserable to be around, and I'm
miserable to be me. So the first rule therapy is is that, yeah,
people are going to do that. People are always going to see you
how they see you. So if their experience with you is that you are
a bad guy, they're not going to be able to get out of the
way. It would really be great if people could go, oh wait,
you realized that wasn't cool back then and you've changed the next nice But humans
don't do that, and especially today, forget it. I mean, people
cannot even see other points of view no matter what. And the trouble is
is that all I know is if I don't continue to still be an example
of the dude that I want to be, and I go out and maybe
you know, get mad or whatever, then I just give them more ammunition
to say that I'm going to do that. They see me as Here's what
I found, Billy, which is really cool. So say that tweet is
out there, I mean, go, yeah, you know what, dude,
I mean, here's the great thing I get to say, I go,
dude, that was pree therapy. And it's like and I say,
look, there's no excuse for that. That's why I had to go get
help. Now, if they want to demonize me and villainize me and whatever,
it's like, I just go, all right, well, I get
it, I get you really upset it. I'm not going to try to
defend that because that was horrible and that's why I went to therapy. That's
all I can say. And then if they still want to, you know,
cancel me, do whatever. All right, But at some point there
are going to be people going, you know what, the only guy is
talking bad into conversation is that guy? Yes? And so, But it
takes a lot of patience, Billy, because you and I are in an
industry where everything we do is just under a Microsoft. Well hang on,
to be misjudged, hang on, I'm in the independent lane. These days.
You're still you know, you're still on the air, and you're still
have corporate powers and things like that, which is I'm not saying it is
bad at all. I'm just saying it's different. Now I've got to go
out and do a whole lot more work to make it all work, but
it's something that at the end of the day, you own it. And
it's a it's a different it's a different game, and yet it's kind of
the same. And uh, and are you loving that? Is that?
Are you loving that? Is that? Cool? I am? I really,
I'm so happy. I'm so happy to you. You're you're You're a
great dude, man, And I am so happy you have found the lane
that you're happy to drive. It is and and it's been a lot of
fun. And I've been able to hear from a lot of people but that
it's funny because I always thought would bj. I never got the misery from
you, Like I never saw you as a miserable person. I know how
that happened, Mark, I feel like I never did either. No,
No, I don't want to see It was always the up Yeah, what's
up? Guys? You don't want to be kiss upat? Yeah? Up
beat company is a word you might have used for somebody else. I can't
even believe I'm talking to you people that's now I am. Yeah. Yeah,
But I just think like you were to March's point, you were always
upbeat, and I thought you were very smart. One of my favorite moments
though. It used to have these staff meetings, right, and there was
some kind of contest giveaway or something, and there was some kind of there
was a song I don't even remember what it was put together the clock for
the and like, you know story, you told me this the gospel according
to Bill if you're Danny. So there's a story where like you guys are
sitting there over here, and they talked about how to build a song,
build songs into the clock, and then you said, well, what if
we run out of time in the hour, We'll then just drop the song.
And you're like, well, wait a minute, we got this huge
build up. We're just gonna drop the song if there's no time. That
was what it was. That was what it was. Beach DJ was always
like and then I think I think it was old Man Morgan at the time,
and he freaking flipped out. He's like yelled or whatever. I would
God, it was great, Yeah, And I remember thinking, but I
used to love it because Beach would just go and go. It was awesome
because then I knew I could check out of the meeting. Everybody wanted the
meeting over that everybody really uh when I know, and that was always the
problem. People used to get so mad at me, and they'd be like,
look, dude, if you would shut up, the streeting would have
been over about three hours. So here here's what happened in Seattle, and
I love this about a good program director. The same thing happened when I
first got the job and worked at KISW. They let me come to one
meeting. The PD saw what I was at meetings and immediately said, you
will never have to go to another meeting again. He was just like,
this is not your place. He's like, you don't like to see things
being built, You don't like to see ideas when people don't exactly know what
they're talking about. He goes, you hate that you'd come to me when
you're done. Don't come to me when you had half an idea. So
Billy, this went on for like three years. He wouldn't let me go
to any meetings, and all of a sudden, the boss comes to me
and says, look, I need you to be at this meeting, and
I go, wait, meet, you need me to be the meeting.
I don't go to meetings to go, Yeah, you got to go to
this one. And I go and I listen. I'm I pleaded with him
because I've already been in therapy. I said, dude, I really am
in therapy. Now I'm trying to be a good guy. You know how
I'm at meetings. He goes, oh, no, I want you at
this meeting. So we're at this meeting and it's about social networking. And
at the time, nobody in our company was doing social networking. I was
doing my own. So I had this expert who wanted me. I guess
this expert wanted me at the meeting telling me what I needed to do with
my own Twitter, my own Twitter stuff and my own Facebook stuff. This
is my stuff, it's not even the company stuff. And there telling me
what to do. And I'm looking at my PD, and this look on
his face of glee comes on because he sees that I don't take it anymore.
And and oh dude, it was a beating because I just told this
this person was like the corporate person in charge of whatever the hell I went
out in my mind and it was not good. I went I pulled my
PD aside and I go, dude, I feel horrible. She was like
almost in tears. This person. I go, why did you do that,
he said, He said, because I told him you shouldn't be at
meetings, and she insisted that you'd be at that meeting. She wouldn't take
she wouldn't listen to me, and I had this. I had to teach
her a lesson and wow, I go, dude, I just got weaponized.
I don't know how I feel about it. But you know what,
that's a great boss, because I always say, and I've said on this
podcast, a boss's job number one job is to recognize what motivates BJ,
what makes BJ tick, what's gonna get the best out of beach? And
it wasn't going to meetings. It would frustrate you. You would st and
ruminate on whatever was discussed and how pissed off you were that, how dumb
they were and they didn't even have that that and then you would you know,
it would come out the next day on the air or whatever, and
it just becomes a big headache. That's just you're right, that's a really
smart p D. Is that something you learned from we Uh? Dude?
You know what, let me tell you something about Weeze. And I mean,
he'll probably hate me for this. I Wee's bark when it came to
management, was a lot bigger than his fight. Yeah, I know,
and I yeah. And that was the thing about Weez is that you know,
he would tell us stuff. But I think he was a lot he
was a better employee than I was. Yeah, and so he really was,
um I remember. And you know, here's the thing, like,
like all the success that I've had in Seattle almost didn't happen because the company
hated me, and frankly I hated them. And then our boss, the
boss, I just told him. He got there and Howard Stern was leaving
and they said, we don't know what to do. And I'm doing mid
days and you know we're having success on mid days. And so the new
boss said, oh, I have a perfect idea. We should we should
put DJ on in the mornings. And they were like, what are you
talking about. He's the guy that screams and yells and he hates everybody and
he is he's so mad at everybody. And he said, well, that's
because you put him on a loser station. You put him on a flanker.
He said, how you can't ever put a winner on a flanker And
they said, he's not a winner. And they said, this is why
you don't have winning stations. I couldn't believe how blunt he was with them.
He said, you hired me because you don't have winning stations, because
you don't have good management. That's why you don't recognize you have a great
talent in this building. He does. He They don't. They don't scream
and yell because they're crazy. It's because they want to win and you just
don't know that because you're a management's horror. And they were like, yeah,
they were, they it was. And they said to him, they
said, this will be the biggest mistake of your career if you do this.
And now he's the vice president of all programming in the company. Because
they were like, I guess you knew what you were talking about. H
Richard. It's his last name, Richard, Dad Da Davis. I mean,
look, all Imola saying, is my experience with Dave the best I've
ever worked with. And he I mean, oh my god, I have
never seen anybody as brilliant and who who at least with me, got me
advocated for me, and and and and he put it out there. He
just put it out there and said because he knew he knew he was right.
He wasn't the kind of guy that just would, you know, be
an idiot just for sake of be an idiot, maybe like me, but
he actually knew he was right and and and he went out there and forcefully
advocated. And I wouldn't be here if not for him. So that's yeah.
Good pds are amazing, man. Good management's amazing. Good management,
Mark, Mark, what's up? Funny? I didn't realize you were there,
Mark, what's going on? I do it? Well. My memory
of you, Mark, as you were like one of the coolest, one
of the nicest dudes I'd ever worked with. So I'm glad that your memory
of me is not one of being a dick, because you were such Oh
you were BG. You were always good to me. Man. I hung
out with you guys a lot on that show too, when when yeah,
yeah, you were You're good dude. We it was it was such fun
doing radio and those It was like, I mean, I mean, I
mean CMF and Weeze is success at that time in that town where I mean
it was just I was so so I didn't know at the time because it
was miserable being me, but I didn't realize just how fortunate I was to
work in that that that incredible, just like Juggernaut that was CNF with you
know, with Janet Mary and Uncle Roger and Crohn's and I mean and Kano
all the great talent that was that was there at the time, and man,
what a special time, so much fun. Yeah, it was.
It'll never be like that ever again. I mean no, it's not.
No, never, very slowly, but surely you know what I'll tell you.
I tell you ability We have that in Seattle. We have a great
crew and it feels very much like the old cm in these days. I
don't know, I don't know how they can do that, but it is
that way at the station where I'm at, you know, just like CMF.
You know, k I have somebody used a rock station forever to celebrate
our fiftieth's not too long ago and music and Seattle, I mean, the
town's a great music town, which is why we're able to lorish. They
love rock music here. They they've never abandoned it even you know, and
they continue with guys like Aaron Jones, they continue to put out great original
rock music here. Wow, what do you say, BJ, I'm reading
you at boot Camp two thousand and nine, and one of the best lessons,
one of the best lessons I ever got, was you saying you're always
on interview. And it's still true. It's even more so true now today
with everybody with a smartphone in their pocket. You know, you are always
on interview. It's it's so true. I say. That's why when people
in our business get up on panels and managers and they the most boring things
in the world telling us how to be entertaining, I sit there and I
go, I go, do you realize how stupid you look right now?
It's just it's it's like, look, even when I'm talking to you guys,
I want to try to be entertaining, you know. I mean,
I know you have an audience or whatever. I mean, that's that's what
I do. I'm an entertainer. So I don't understand how people don't get
that. As soon as that microphone is on, it's like, dude,
bring it, don't be an idiot, bring it the best. You can
have fun and be authentic list and you can, but but bring it.
And so many people just go I will do that, like all right,
well, and why am I listening to you, why are you here?
I pay money to see you. I traveled across the country so you could
sit there and pour the crap out of me. Okay, great, do
you still go to boot camp? Yeah? Just went last year. I
love it. There's so many great young people that want to be in radio
that I am shocked and pleasantly surprised. And also it's not a sausage show
like it used to be. The amount of young women that love this industry
and just like they remind me and Billy maybe you remember when we were in
our twenties where we were like, this is all we want to do.
I don't care what I have to give up, you know. And to
see that in the eyes of young people when they try to tell us that
the business is dead, which sure the business has definitely like got to figure
it out. But at the same time, these young people are like,
we want this, we want to be here, and I am like,
this is fantastic, And you know, it's just time for the old people
to step aside and let them in, let them be there, cause old
people don't like to do that. It's like I said, people look like
me, yeah, oh, we're gonna be we're gonna be relevant forever.
And it's like, hey, grandpa, seriously, when what are you talking
about. You're not going to be relevant forever. Look at the mirror.
Nobody's gonna listen to you. Just sit there and smile and you know,
and don't. I always think beads that. I think you're gonna see things
go from these big corporations back down to smaller entities. Not just in radio,
I think everywhere. I really do. And I think when you do
that, you'll bring back the personality and win because spoken word, like what
you do in the morning, what we're doing here is what's happening. It's
it's what's winning because you can play. You can get your music from anywhere,
but you can't get your personality from anywhere. You can't and if you
love DJ, true, yeah, And I mean I think that's gonna be
that's the one difference. And you can't put artificial intelligence with that, and
you can't do any of that stuff. So I think that that's really the
winning edge and for radio to survive, I think on a mass scale the
way they are now, some of these companies, I heearten others it's too
b big and so to run it efficiently and leanly and be able to also
dance to the shareholders and things. You've got to make decisions of cutting people,
which then cuts exactly what is building the company. And I think what's
going to happen is you're going to see people break these companies up. Smaller
stations are going to come about, and you're gonna go back to almost the
mom and pops, and you'll have more situations like you're in now, which
I think is great. Well, I'll tell you this, billy. You
know, not Wall Street is not good for all long, you know,
and it really isn't the the Wall Street mentality to me, you know,
you know, I mean shareholders, stockholders, I mean they're all asholders if
you ask me, because it is they cannot see the damage that they are
doing just human beings in general. And at some point, you know,
this is why young people are going, hey, I would like to try
a differentism, and a lot of the older folks are going, oh my
god, these people are so anti American. It's like, dude, do
you just take a look. I mean I was just a diner and they
had a little thing that told you, like back in ninety two forty eight,
when the diner opened, they said, here's how much it cost to
buy a house. It's like seven thousand dollars. And then here's how much
the average person made with like twenty five hundred dollars. And I'm like,
holy crap. I mean, you take a look at those numbers today and
there's no way you could buy a house for just a little over double your
salary. Right. And so when anybody wants to say, oh, hey,
well your hate capitalism, I go, how is this the success you
just you know, you just ask anybody, how is it that nineteen forty
eight average person could do this? And here it is in twenty twenty three,
a person who's highly educated with a ridiculous amount of college debt can't even
get this deal on a home. How was that a success story? That
to me is an abortion of business. And I think has to do everything
with Wall Street and the shareholders and you know what, like at some point,
you know, the inmates, you're gonna go, f this, we
are going to take over the asylum. I think you're starting to see it,
and I think you're starting to see it with things as people go these
independent ways and somebody's created drinking game because I use some phrases too much and
they've added this one. I always say, the barrier to entry is gone.
Right. Anybody can do this right. You don't. You don't need
a radio station anymore. You've got you can buy the microp you can buy
the equipment. It's a lot cheaper than you think. You can find the
space. And if you do it right, you can win. You can,
I mean you gotta love it, yeah, but you can win.
And I think that when you you know to what you're saying, as you're
going to see changes because people have had enough and they don't need the big
corporations anymore. They don't need Wall Street to be able to get their message
out. You know you're looking at I mean guys who are sure there are
podcasters who make millions of dollars, but they didn't start out that way.
Yeah, you know, Billy, And look all all it takes for a
person to do anything that they want to do in life that they go,
okay, I mean, what do I need to live? And the average
the average American is very reasonable when it comes to like what they need to
live. They don't want a skillion dollars. No, the average American is
like, you know, hey, whatever, And that means if you,
like you said, you're the freedom to do what you want as long as
you're reasonable with how you want to live in right. And dude, I'm
so happy that you're doing this because you know what, You've been a great
dude your whole life, and you know it's just to me, I'm sad
you're not in our business. I find I keep saying that's a lot about
people that are no longer in our business. It saddens me that you know
they're not in our business anymore for whatever reason. But I'm happy that you're
still doing it because man, I think you should be. Yeah, and
and and to me, it was like there was nothing else to do,
and I thought, let's see, and so far, so good, you
know, and and getting better, which is really yeah, that really is.
It's very good. I'm so glad you agreed to come on. I'd
love to. I'm gonna get your number from Kevin and then uh get you
on when I do the other one, because i'd love to get some great
stories from you. And I hope I gave Kevin the Burner phone number because
I really, I'll find you. I know, I got people in Covin.
I'll find you, man, don't I don't know if I need that,
but yeah, Philly, thank you so much. Mark, and I
didn't. Who's the other que that I love, Dan Barillo? We used
to call him Christian Dad. Hey, yeah, Hey, d Hey buddy.
Yeah. So guys, thank you so much for having me on it.
What a great trip back down on memory lane. And you know,
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link Campbell out at any moment in my life. I'm afraid of the same
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All right, take it easy, buddy, see you later. There
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your mom jokes? Yes, yes, I know. Because you're very that's
your that's your defense. You jump right, that's your defense. You Earlier,
we started to talk about Mayor Evans. He announced that the City of
Rochester is going to be participating in lawsuit against Hundai and Kia after the recent
thefts in the city, and somebody did right on Facebook when we were talking
about stuff earlier, and this show has been all over the play my key
was broken into, says Christopher Dickman. I'm just gonna leave that there.
His last name is Dickman. Okay, there's a lot of Dickman out there.
See. Now this is where I wouldn't mind my name, Mike d
Richard Dick Dick Dickman. What a great name. Oh god, it's it's
it's a lineman, right, a lineman, a lawyer sales. Yes,
tell him, Dick Dickman said. Or you could be like a private investigator
high Dick Dickman. Yes, know exactly, Yes, I mean, Dick
Dickman's a great name anyway, Christopher dick that should be the name for magnum
p. I I could see like you know that what's his name? Tom
Selick playing Dickman mustache? Now you know what this would be more of like
you gotta go back, you gotta go back into the nineteen fifties or they
had you know what I mean? Yeah, he oh, send Dick Dickman
over, He'll take care of it. You know what I mean? That
kind of thing. Uh. Christopher Dickman, son of Dick Dickman, says,
my key was broken into, but they didn't take it, took change,
broke the window, broke the console. Cops said, there's nothing they
can do. Since when do police not investigate break ins burglary? A lot
of times? Yeah, unfortunately a lot of times because it's the it's minor,
and it's not I mean, anybody who's had a car broken into.
I did years ago. I had a radio ripped out of a Volkswagen Jetta
that I had. I was very upset. I really want to think,
like I remember walking out of I think it was on somewhere on Alexander,
maybe Lloyd's, the old Lloyd's. Oh yeah, and I'll walk out and
I can see I go, god, damn it, they broke in the
garden. It isn't there, And I go, sure enough, they had
popped right around the handle because it was very easy to do on the frames
of the of the Volkswagon back then. And you should sue Volkwagon. Well,
this is this is my point. But to his answer, they usually
don't. I mean, they'll they'll take the police report, you can use
it for your insurance and things. But especially in the city of Rochester,
I think they got bigger stuff going on, which sucks because that's the biggest
thing in your world. Right, it's the biggest thing in Dickman's world.
The best thing about having a shit ass car, yeah, is that leave
it unlocked at night. Yeah? Yeah, I did that with all the
time, right, I never stalking it off. Helped yourself to whatever you
want. I don't give a fuck. They keep leaving them kiss tickets though,
kiss tickets keep coming in there. So the mayor did say, we
do this on behalf of the senior citizen who has her car taken from in
front of her house, even though she locked all the doors and did the
things he was supposed to do. I understand. I feel like it's political
grandstanding. Here's what Steve Circue Granted this is a civil matter, he's a
defense attorney, but here's his thoughts. Well, you know that's a great
question. First of all, this is a civil matter, a civil matter.
They're trying to get money from these car manufacturers, and is exactly what
he said, He's like, just political posturing by the cities try to frankly
deflect from some of those terrible policies. I mean, what I don't understand
is you know, in order to have some sort of breach or negligence,
there's got to be some sort of duty owed by the manufacturer, the duty
owed to the petitioner or the planets. You know what duty does Kia and
the other carmaker have to make sure that under those circumstances, can any of
their cars have ever be stolen? Right? I mean that that that that
that seems to be a pretty onerous bird in the place upon a manufacturer.
And let's say the manufacturer did put all this in right, and then there
there's something happens and they a fire, sells it to a second fire,
and that a mobilizer doesn't work. Is the citizen fire of the first car
who then sells it secondarily if that first is going to be liable now because
the mobilizer wasn't fixed or they didn't use the right way, you know,
Look, there there's another defense for these manufacturers. And that's like there's an
intervening or superseding cause, Uh, these cars are being stolen by criminals.
Yeah, right, so there's a criminal act that would reduce or maybe completely
absolved the manufacturers. Right, I mean, I've got online that it's like
a two hundred dollars fix. That doesn't seem like a lot of money to
put it in there. But you know, people bought the cars and the
key. It didn't say, hey, listen, buy this car, it
can never be stolen. You bought a car, right, You bought a
car. It's got locks on it, and it's basically for the key fire
or the people would keys. So I think those cars, I would guess
are lesser expensive than the keyless entry and the keyless vehicles. It seems like
it's just a political posturing move to make the politicians, hey, we're doing
something, um and so vote so voters back in again. I think as
I hear this again, I didn't say too when we were talking. I
think it was push start because they were ripping out. I thought it was
pushed the popping the cap and I thought it was push start, which wouldn't
be a key, right, But I don't know. Well, you have
to have you would normally have to have a key with you present to start
the car on a push start. Yeah, well you need a the fob,
yeah, the fob r yeah. Yeah. So I think they break
in through a window, get in there, rip the console out and that's
how they've been doing. By the way he's on you. Everything he's saying
is correct, But I get the mayor's point where you're trying to do something
for people who really I mean, look just like the guy who wrote Dickman
going to police, don't look at Yeah, it's the biggest thing in your
world. It's scary, it's unsettling. Somebody's in your space. Or if
your car is completely stolen and it's found crashed on Park Avenue, but you
know in the back of some other cars just abandoned about three days later,
it's total. You've got to go through that with the insurance. You've got
to have a toad. Someone took a crap in it, like your old
man's car, or like the Big Lebowski. Someone uses at a toilet seat
and moved on mark. One time my dad, my dad had a Ferrari
fierrero fierro fierro, not a Ferrari fierro, and he was he was working
on his doctorate at Fordham in the Bronx, so he would go down there
for night classes. He was a teacher during the day. He would go
down to night and he left the car door unlocked and was in the parking
lot. He came back and my dad had had a mild stroke years prior
and he had lost really his sense of smell. So like, we used
to fart at dinner, and my father would always say that no, according
to Miss Manners, and there was a complete guide, Miss Manners Guide to
Perfect Etiquette is the name of the book. He can look it up.
And he would say that, no, sounds that emanate from below the neck
exist. You don't. You don't acknowledge them because they don't exist. You
pretend you can't hear him. So we used to rip farts like crazy,
and my mother was getting so pissed off, and she goes, can't just
smell. So my poor dad had sat gets in the car and drives two
hours from the Bronx back up to the little rural town I grew up in.
And I must have come bounded up the stairs because I was in high
school or something. And I see him, he's standing at the sink at
he's Washington, and he's got you know, he's got dad pants, like
they're sagging down a little bit and all this, and I see like it
looks like a banana, kind of like a rotten banana like twisted. You
know what I'm saying, like a banana had browned And I go, I
go, what is that on your fans? What are you talking about?
I go, what is that? Did you? What are you talking about?
And he comes back and he turns out someone took a shit and he
was fucking mortified. Mark, He couldn't he was out of his mind.
God, poor something. He was so pissed off. So but no one
broke a window anything. They just open the door. Took a ship.
It was hop They was unlocked the ship and left. It was saying a
comfortable taking shit in car wouldn't be easier. I think someone just hung their
ass out, plopped and went. I don't know, someone in research brought
that to Like then my dad didn't get rid of the car, but he
had his scrubbed and all this, and then he put a seat cover over
that seat. Never never ever said that it's a featish ship in people's cars.
Stop it stopping. It's like the whack box. Back to the Coo.
But back to the Kia thing I had. I had a truck once.
I had a recall for ball bearings one time, like a wheel just
snapped in a parking lot. But that's their responsibility, right, That's what
I'm saying. So like, if if they know there's an issue, which
I by now I think that Kia and Hunde know there's an issue, shouldn't
they do a recall and we'll fix your car for you. I don't know,
because this is well, first of all, this is not that they
would knowingly ever do this, but this got out. We're listening to what
Steve says here and it may answer exactly what's your question? A big pain
for the people and they can't afford the sneakers. Again. Now, I
had said to him that somebody had stolen a car that were sneakers in and
a kid had to go. Uh, this is a great answer that he
goes, So somebody had to go buy new sneakers for the kid to play
basketball. All that added expense, all that added stress, and you know,
I said that this is part of where a politician is going. I'm
gonna try to do what I can for you. I don't know what that
is, but here intervening, cause if you don't put those sneakers in there,
maybe nobody steals that car. Kiss says, Look, if they steal
the car outside that you know, you lost your sneakers, but if you
don't have them in there any value? So is that an interviewing cause it
again, where is the duty owed by Kia and the other manufacturer to uh
to prevent all concepts? And hey, listen, what about when the technological
wizards that use their their talent for criminal behaviors figure are how TOD immobilize the
immobilizer? Right, then there's under the duty to then go in and spend
billions of dollars in research and development billions. Maybe who knows to try to
fix that? I mean, where does it act? I mean if Kia
would be making representations that their car could never be stolen. You know,
somebody said to me the other day, this is a lot like the nineteen
seventies case before Pencil, which you know, I don't know the exact ole
figures. Well, the gas tanks were I was young man, I was
driving at a Vega which was eerially similar to a Finfrow. My parents had
a Chevy Tiga. And you know, if you get rear ended at a
pizel, uh Ford could have fixed it for twenty five cents, which was
more than it was worth you know then than it is now. Right,
twenty five cents was more, but they could have fixed it and saved lives.
Well, the different cheer is he is not saying that these cars can
never be stolen, much like Ford saying, you know, listen, you're
not gonna get rear ended in the car is not gonna blow up. You
have a reasonable a reasonable belief that buying a car, if it gets rerended,
it's not gonna blow up and kill a family of four respectation. Yes,
I think the reasons like this. Just look, you can lock your
doors. You know, the keys are uniform to just one to just one
car, so you can't use other keys to get in there. But at
one point do you say there's the duty? Oh? I mean, what
was those red sticks that we had the This isn't the first time cars were
soul. When I had a car back in the eighties, we had that
red stick to put across the club. You got to bring back the club
and then what if you know, you know, I mean, it just
seems it looks, but it'll make the mirror and his corporation Council and every
city feel great. And look at us. We're fighting for the common person.
But everybody's not going to go to them. Yeah, it's a city.
They're not going to give the money back's gonna go to the law enforce.
But well, you know, to put more police on the streets,
that probably the good thing, and it would uh you know, have more
more custodial situations and taking like this young man who allegedly has six allegations of
presumed innocent, six allegations of cartaps. Get him off the street for a
period of time, uh, because he can be prosecuted. But you know,
look, there's just doesn't make any sense to me. There's just no
duty owed by Key and the other manufacturer to guarantee his best they can the
car won't be stolen. And none of this came to light but for somewhat
video on TikTok or something that people do it right, So that's if you're
being sup that wasn't well known. It was like Kia said, hey,
buy our car, but by the way, if it doesn't have an am
mobilizer and so if you just do this this this, you can steal our
car. There's another intervening force or causation, and that is that video.
So I think it's much to do about nothing. I don't practice that law,
but I'd be surprised if there was a verdict in favor of all these
plaintiffs. But you know, business being what it is, perhaps Key and
the other manufactural manufacturers settle, right, settle because it's it's good for their
brand. Look, we're here to people, you know, buy a key.
If something happens, you know, we'll we'll take care of it,
as opposed to being the big bad corporation that sells cars to people knowing that
they could be stolen. Well, any car can be stolen, right,
so you can put a car on the back of a lift and feeling there
you go. So, I mean, I don't know if that answer your
question. I think that what you're talking about is a safety issue where people's
lives would be at jeopardy. This isn't a safety issue. This is a
deep inconvenience. But it's not a safety issue in terms of like a well
being issue, though it could be. I mean, I mean, we'll
talk about your well try, but I don't know it sort of is because
you know, like the pinto example, your ball bearing example. I've had
different recalls with cars too because a fire could break up. Those kinds of
things I think become a safety issue. The fact that your car may be
stolen is one. That your car may be stolen today, right right,
just happen to anybody. Yeah. Now, the problem is that it becomes
a big expense for the city. Smashing grabs. Those cars are being used,
right, they're driving in. Didn't they just do want at the Montage
Music Hall? And they've done them at the Comedy Club and all these other
places. And I think a lot of times it's a stolen car that they're
using. So it becomes an exp the for the city of Rochester. And
I do wonder a little bit. Is there a hey man, we got
to foot the bill for all this ship, Well what do we do.
Let's sue them and get some money back, and maybe that'll happen. I
don't know, but I don't think. I don't think the individuals are going
to get it. I don't think that. I don't think I'm not going
to see it. I don't think the you know, the the grandmother he's
talking about, you know, the senior citizen who did everything right. I
don't she'll see any money. But that's it. Uh, we'll take a
moment. I have an issue personal, but I will discuss. Oh yeah,
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know that I know the album, but I just remember Donna Summer like in
a white rash. Yeah, yeah, I get the cameras. I'm sorry,
cameras, aren't I forgive you? No, no, no, just
tryan I've been helpful. That's only one I didn't say that. So this
Donna Summer, humh Yeah, yeah, I'll see if I can find the
album cover. One who's playing the guitars, Niles Rogers. It could be,
could be he was fat. He's fantastic, you know, he like
but Donna Wanda like play Pattycake with him and he turned her down. Nah,
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August, right, Yeah, I like I got hit stains like it's gross.
I know you have been sweating more lately. What the fuck is?
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on. I'm not sweat. I didn't. I didn't set it there.
I don't know why it is. I agree with that, but I'm saying,
like all the time. Lately, I like the pits and it's annoying
me and I always have to spray my t shirts and things with you under
Yeah. But you also said yesterday you've lost ten pounds, so that could
be your metabolism going into overdrive too, And that's true, that's true that
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they use. I know what you're telling me. Yeah, I've seen commercials
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hot chick walked in here right now, all right, and she was like
hi guys, and she came over to give me a hug, I wouldn't
I would be you wouldn't be confident, arid, extra dry, Raise your
hand, raise your hand. If you're short, Yeah, you'll be unsure
to get a little closer. Why do you assume she's going right to you?
Have you looked at the three of you what I had to do with
I haven't said anything because, like the older at commercials were huge in the
eighties. Yeah, they revolutionize it. They had band roll on, they
had speed stick where they would like and you snap your fingers. Yeah,
so you know it's smooth. I've been using uh dove for men. Okay,
not working Mark, How I got it for you? I mean it
smells good. I don't smell bad. How about the lady? Pace right,
get the dry, get a dry women? Women's Uh work for the
ladies more than the dudes, because ladies don't like the sweat. I don't
mind the sweating. And by the way, man, I've been I was
thinking to you when when I was going on, I think I'm gonna talk
about this. And I've been one other times. So I have tripped on
people in intimate situations. I have been like on a hot summer day,
Oh, just wailing and railing and that goosing and trips off the chin trip
drip, oh, trip trip. Okay, I can figure that out.
Okay, Hell, you're hearing over there? Am I hearing? I heard
the same thing. He said, trip, I thought I've tripped over.
People have a worry at the Kicks Society. He he did say trip,
I did? Yeah, alright, Well, so you dripped drinking water,
so you're like, you know, really getting into it, and all of
a sudden and you start tripping. I don't know. I'm breathing like that.
You had a mouth breathing and you have a check still talking. I
got a lot of ship sound you like that? Do you like that?
Does that feel good? Do you like that? No? I don't say
that either. What do you say? I say? Nasty ship? I
call your names? Oh? No, kidding, but he always say okay,
next time, you will do whatever you do. You're gonnavite Mark over
to watch, so we could tape you to see what you're saying. Mark,
you will be waiting a long time. Always the ones though, no
offense, Bill fuck you? You would watch this year? No? I
went out? What did I tell you? The Royal One? You would
watch? I would not watch you. You would not you? You would
watch Kevin interacting? Could also maybe you, but you'd watch me. I'm
kidding because he goes my wife. That's why I don't know. I don't
know if I don't know if that's a complement or not. I'm gonna give
it a pass. Yes, you can watch very very bizarre way. Yeah,
I do not watch guys that I know. It has to be the
girl I know and a guy. Well, I'm gonna find a girl you
know, No, but that didn't I'm gonna say to her, you know,
Mark's gonna want to watch this. You'll get the men in black,
flashy thing and flash. They belong to some society called Mark Hillman anonymous.
All these guys who bang all these chicken nose. Mark's a cult leader that
wouldn't surprise me, called the Watchers. He's like the David Koresh according to
the King Girl, um my fetish is a normal one. So that's gonna
did you goday? No? I didn't go. Oh that was the whole
point. I didn't go. Why because he's a pussy. Yeah I could
say that because you know what, let me tell you something. I don't
think I could have got either, Like I could not have gone. No.
I could have talked a big game and said there's not a chance I
could have gone. I just couldn't. I'm with you one hundred percent.
So we do. We go out on Sundays, is our a bunch of
right right, and the King Club. He's going to beat to Billies and
Masslin. Are you gonna fucking waste your time go into freakingmercials? He goes
to watch the King Club and he goes, you know exactly who's gonna be
there and who it is, and you're gonna recognize everybody. They're gonna see
you there. Then they're gonna be You're gonna be part of that group.
He goes, come on, he goes, let's do it, let's do
a shot. Thanks. They talked you out of it. Yeah, pretty
much. So you were on the fence all the way up to then.
No, actually I forgot about him. Yeah, I didn't think so.
I think in the moment you thought, and all of a sudden, nobody
could see Nobody could see Uh, what's her name, shauns shuns? No
one could see her when she was in here, right, never on camera?
Right. But she she was not what we expected, not at all
like what you're talking about. She says, she was the beat abilities before.
I wouldn't noticed her. I've never seen her there. So what were
you going to say before as I said, I had a personal issue.
You had a story bunch of about twenty years ago. I went, I
met this girl in a Bill's game and she looked just like Rose McGowan.
Okay, and that's when I was three hundred and fifth, when I was
fatter than I am. You were three hundred and fifty pounds. Yeah,
I'm still scanning and this is still skinny the way I used to be.
I still have one hundred pounds later. Did you have the surgery? Yeah,
okay, well you were three fifty, bro. Yeah, I didn't
know that either. Tall five times, So we're about to say five eight,
five times, alight, five nine. I was gonna say, Actually
it was just Rose McGowan and scream blonde or Rose McGowan black haired, Rose
McGowan, uh from Charmed Okay, all right, okay, auburn brown,
black hair. So she's she's smoking hot. And so we're hanging out the
Bills game and we exchange numbers and you were three fifty. Get this broad's
number. That's the whole that's my whole point. I'm like, what you
know, hey, my weight, your area? She like that's right,
she like like fact that guys. Yeah, so I go on the thing.
Huh so yeah, stuck in the pringles can. Oh, it's stuck
in the booth of Denny's. I'm sorry, that was horrible. That's that's
not appropriate. Sorry, go ahead, just let's see him out fall the
fucking Sorry for hey mail send up to Kevin please. So I go to
our house. Um, next weekend, I stay at our house. So
I go to go to I go to go down on her Jesus. Okay,
yeah, that's not what I was expecting. And well he's hungry.
He's going to eat its mark. He's three hundred and fifty pounds, right.
He brought a doggy bag he left over. I lit my deal bill
wallet at home, all the cards. I didn't move two plates. Oh
you can eat buffet baby mark human here. You about to go to go
corral? All right, So what happened? I got down there way,
um, came up very quickly. Why, oh yeah, I do the
stuff. Well, I do this because I had back springs. Before I
do the stomach thing. I go down and go down. You get to
the stomach and you can smell something. You don't go down there. That's
my that is my advice. I would like you to sit with my sons
and have this. Do you know what I'm saying? Kiss you imagine that?
Hey, listen, son Jeeves. I suggested to you if you were
gonna go with that here I've suggested before people, very very grateful, very
grateful. I was like, get out. So anyways away, They're poor.
Woman probably had something going on she can't control. Right, everybody has
a bad day, right, all right, you go back again. So
we go back again, like that guy. We're actually in my We're actually
in my car, and I started we start messing around, and there are
the same smells there, right, So you said something, No, I
got her out of the fucking car. Yeah, I had. I had
all my it was like November. I had all my windows rolled down on
the on the freaking slip a piece of garment there. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I go home. I parked the car. My father moves it
the next day and he walks and he goes, what the fuck did you
run over? Okay, all right, now, mind you he's also a
chubby guy. He's a chubby guy at this point, so we should get
her side of the story too. If she was one off, the smell
was something stuck in you. It wasn't all right. It didn't quite smell
like a Rose McGown. I mean, you know, I mean it happened
twice, so it's like, you know, yeah twice, Yeah, yeah,
the pattern. I'm I'm sensing a pattern. It was did you go
back for the for the trifecta? Nor? It's lovely? You know.
Now, I don't know if you want to what you want to say to
this, okay, And it has nothing to do with perversion. I'm gonna
just try to steer it away from the smelly situation. We were just please.
Uh. But when I was a kid, I think the bus drivers
might have break checked us a few times. Oh to get your head to
slap against the seat in front of us, he lies up. So the
sixty one year old guy in Colorado facing thirty misdemeter counts of child abuse because
he breaked checked. Now the bad part is now they have cameras and everything.
Oh yeah, so you can see it and you see the little kid
and their little bodies go slamming. Didn't happened to me, Well, it
happened to me a lot. But here's the thing. It's like, I
go, I don't know if this is we're soft now or this should have
just never happened, you know what I mean, like because the big but
those seats are hard, the high back seats and all. But but now,
when I was really little, they were metal backs. I remember that
low. They were lower and because we used to hate it because the bus
driver could see everything you were doing. Yes, yes, wow, we
got the substitute bus. Today you can sit low in those seats and all.
But um, I mean they break checked. I had my friend's parents,
it would have us in the back seat and then that they'd swerve seats,
smack your head on the window and they'd laugh and laugh like it was
nuts. My dad would do stuff like okay, but so different time.
That's a different time. But I go thirty. I mean, you tell
the guy, hey, man, don't do this again. I guess because
you can't find I'm gonna count thirty. His name is Brian Fitzgerald. He's
face, he's sixty one years old. He's apologized to the Douglas Kennedy School
District. This is in Colorado. Uh. He's facing thirty misdemeanor counts to
child abuse, including child abuse with bodily injuries carries a maximum sentence of a
year and just shy of a year three hundred and sixty four days in jail,
and he's due to go to court in on May twelve. Is it
thirty because there were thirty kids on the bus and they all slammed it once?
Or did he do the thirty if he did this like thirty times.
I think it's thirty for thirty one thirty kids. And I don't know if
some of these kids now from the video I saw or the I saw a
still of what was a picture if shaken out the video, so it's sort
of blurred when you see these and they look little little kids and they're slamming.
But I go, all right, you got break checked. Shut your
mouth. If that's my kids. See this is where I know, like
it was a big problem when I was married because I would often go,
yeah, you should learn to shake your mouth. But us valid point,
like we you know a kid could get very hurt concussions or happen all the
time. Now we're finding out takes very little. So yeah, they got
the guy from concussion tell the truth. See the move. The move is
you don't you don't break jack either, just don't you slow down enough to
get over the speed bump, but not enough for the back of the buses.
Yeah, the kids in the friend aren't going to feel it, but
they're the ones not screwing around either. Yeah. I think somebody was standing
on the vaccat once and somebody hit a bump or a pothole and they hit
their head on the ceiling. But I mean, I don't know anymore because
we can't find bus drivers. That's from what I understand. My brothers.
My brothers a bus driver. Okay, but now does he tell you or
is it or is there a shortage where he's at? Well, we're the
same place, so okay, because there a shortage, yes, yeah,
and I remember, especially after COVID, there were many places that were even
saying around the country, you may have to drive your kids to school.
We don't have enough bus drivers, enough buses. So now you're gonna take
a guy who this is the only thing he did. Maybe you suspend him
for a week or something, or maybe have him go talk to you other
parents. I don't know what the fuck you do, but I go up,
where are you gonna find somebody to put up with that? Did the
helmet boys ever roll together. We didn't like the dukes. We did a
couple of times we wrote together as part time. Yeah, yeah, it
looks like a tough gig to me, it is. It is a tough
we It works now, brother of a break check anybody. No, nobody
stops, but he will stout. He'll stop the bus though. Oh man,
I remember this one way, got pulled over, got out of his
seat, came into the bag. He jack. I think he had one
kid up against the window of like pressed up against his collar bone with his
forearm, screaming in his face. We had drivers like that. Yeah,
could you imagine that today? There's a part I don't know about. Look,
it's like a teacher, except don't respective a teacher. So he's got
to command the bus or somebody's gonna get killed. Well this is the point.
But I'm not saying that the kids are soft. I think kids have
reacted the same way, like you scared the shit out of me or whatever,
but they now know. Well there's videos, so I don't even know
if a kid told. But if I went home and said something, my
parents were like going, oh, you know, they maybe call the school
and go, hey, you just want I don't know if my father if
I told my father, but he probably deserved it. You look at I
wasn't on that part. I'll tell you what we would have died. Let
me tell you what happened back in my day pictures. That's why this on
bus six. We'd't even have multiple digits generally so different. He's being trying
to be funny, but nobody's right. He's right. I mean, you
just mean an example of your accident taking your boy side. Well, not
always. I don't want to paint that picture. I'm just saying certain instances.
I would say things like and and she would you know. I used
the example once there was an incident at the school and all the parents were
going to go up and the swat team was there, and they had a
scary situation. I'm going, why are you going? Don't go? And
I was like the I was the odd man out. It's the whole neighborhood
goes up. I'm I'm standing in the sun room, going, you guys
are really ain't going there? Uh, you know, thinking you're just gonna
get in the way. What are you gonna do? They got guns and
they're there for the protective me. What are you you gonna add? Right?
But that's that way. That's my thinking team. Karen's gonna this is
my thinking on things, okay. And so a lot of times I don't
know that it's smart. I just make sense to me. And if it
makes sense to me, that's what I do. And a lot of times
the ship didn't make sense to me, and so it would lead to problems.
Don't That's what I always say, Don't be a superhero like you clock
everything like Colestero. So that's that's all. I was always my thing Mark
and and there were certain situations with the guys, so we go, I'm
not gonna right, you know. And I went to Kevin School in my
whole life. Yeah, and when the priests would hit us, yeah,
and we'd go home and cry yea, and my father'd be like, what
did you do? Right, I'd be in more trouble by telling him you
better hope that the teacher didn't tell your father yea or or something like that.
Right, hit you so hard you have a crack on the other ways
it was. That was the way it was back then. Now, my
one of my boys went to a private high school and there were some incidents
that happened, and they said we'll handle it, and I said fine,
and I didn't get it. I did not pile on at home. I
figured it's handled right exactly, that's hand and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
pile on at home. Was stuff at home. I wouldn't expect the school
to take care of that, you know. But that's the problem. Now
we we back back in high school after this, Just after I graduated,
my brother had gotten in trouble his senior year, and we had a denas
students because at that point, we don't want the principle handling these problems.
Yea, it wants to be your past. Yeah, So we're gonna have
a Dinas students. And it's the old height, the old elementary school,
uh Jim teacher and former football coach who looked like Hulk Hogan with short hair.
Right, So everyone's kind of intimidated, but they still hated this guy.
Right. So my brother gets into trouble and he goes, hey,
tell us my brother, Joel, Hey, why don't you call your father
up and tell him what you did. I'll tell out the phone for you,
Dallas. The phone hands it to mister Burrell. Oh yeah, says
Archie Bradley over at Silver Creek c Yeah, yeah, it's Joel again.
Hey, you want to talk to him and see what he did. And
my father he gets on the phone my father. My father goes, oh,
that's cute, Joel, that's real cute. You're gonna do. The
time I hand the phone back to Archie had shut up. I mean like
he like he had no tolerance for any of that stuff. Yes, zero,
yeah. Oh, my old man blew me in for what. I
skipped school and I went to the mall and it was all ways away the
mall from where I lived, so I had a car. I skipped school,
and I went to a bottle walkman, and then I went to see
my buddy who was homesick, hung out with him for a little while.
And I timed it perfectly, so the school bus went by, and as
the school bus pulled away, I pulled him the driveway just like I normally
wouldn't, right, And my old man goes says to me, hey,
this seemed like a loaded question. It turned out it was. He said,
Hey, was mister Tys, who happened to be my first period teacher,
and football coach. Was he in school day? And I said,
uh, all right, I gotta listen. I didn't go. What I
didn't go to school day? What are you talking about? I go?
I didn't go. I said, here's the walk when I went to the
Mamba, and I went and I saw my buddy Nate. And my father
was like, your sister got sick at school and I had to pick her
up. And I'm in the pediatricians waiting room and I thought I saw mister
Tye. Now I could have said yes, and I could have said no.
My father wasn't sure I would have gotten away with. So my father
writes a note to the school or calls to school and says that I skipped.
So I got pulled in and they said, uh, I got instead
of four nice attention, I got three. Oh, because because yourself.
Because my dad told those guys. They were like, we had two guys
and they were they were they were sort of laughing. I was like,
God, damn it. I never I could never. I mean, I
I skipped class a lot. I didn't get to skip the actual physical building.
So he's always getting busted with that. So have you ever heard of
an old fashioned switch. Yeah, okay, yeah, so for those of
you don't know, it's a long stick branch. Yeah. There, you
go out and get it right. So one day my father decided the only
time in his life, he decided to go hunting with his buddies in high
school. And my grandmother gets a phone call from the school. Hey,
why is why is butch out sick today? We see all his buddies out
sick too, Amico Casaro, Alico, all these others mafia cruise right.
She's oh, oh, okay, well I'll handle this when he gets home.
Don't you worry. So my father let you times its just right.
He comes in. After all, it was getting shot at because they had
no idea what they were doing out hunting, right, And he sees his
saxophone propped up in the core. He goes, oh, that's weird.
My grandmother goes. He goes, it was heavy because go play your saxophone.
Go practice your saxophone. I haven't heard you playing a while. Oh
sure, mom, no problem. He goes to open up the sacks.
She grabs the switch and just starts whipping the crop bottom did you skip school
to day? Starts whipping because I never felt so much pain in my life,
right you see that's where like maybe wee of all. I don't know
that you hit need to inflict pain like that. Some other pa did too.
I got hit, I got you get the belt. I got the
belt as a kid out yeah, oh yeah, all that stuff. I
once knew I was getting a spanking, and I put soft books in my
in my ass and another pair of jeans because it was like, I'm gonna
call you. When I call you, you come out here and you get
a spanking right now now Mark wants to watch. I was just gonna say
it. For Mark Hillman, it was always got a good story that he
does and thank you you do. Always a pleasure, great perspective for Kevin
Muir who did a great game for us that we still haven't played too.
Nice Dan Barillo, isn't all Bill's gear getting ready for the draft. I'm
Bill Moran wills seeing tomorrow finally husband m H.