1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,360 When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice, mixing some vodka. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,759 We call it a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:18,000 driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram. It's Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast. 4 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,760 Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks for 5 00:00:31,839 --> 00:00:35,000 telling a friend. That's how we spread the word about the Pirates ship. 6 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:41,759 All back in studio. Kevin's here, brought him BtVS Peacha tonight ten dollars 7 00:00:41,799 --> 00:00:48,479 on Tuesdays and Fridays. And Friday's Man, that's a steal. That's today. 8 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:54,479 Mark Hillman's here Hello, BtVS is his spot on Sunday's Yes ye right 9 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,719 yeah. And Danny decked out in his Bill's gear getting ready for the NFL. 10 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Oh I am jeez. Okay, when dreams are made for young men 11 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,879 to become millionaires. It's the NFL's annual season of hope. It's like Kingdom 12 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:14,120 Bound for football fans. All right, what is Kingdom Bound again? King 13 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,719 about is a big Christian festival during okay, okay, they go everywhere. 14 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:21,680 They just just put their hands up and praise the Lord. Do they baptize 15 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,519 people and stuff? There I don't know if they baptized. They have a 16 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,040 lot of Christian concerts and stuff. It's like, hey, here's the one 17 00:01:26,079 --> 00:01:29,159 time we could be cool for a weekend. Yeah, I used to link 18 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,000 with death uh water. They had people like from all over show up for 19 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:38,159 this. That's the thing. It's like Christian's gone wild or tame, depending 20 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:40,239 on how you look at it. That's kind of fun. It's nice. 21 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,359 Yeah, don't like minded people. You probably feel good about your kids going 22 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,000 there if you were. Yeah, right, you worry about him going to 23 00:01:46,359 --> 00:01:49,400 Morgan Wallen show, who literally got drunk. Don't even get me started on 24 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:55,400 that. I know, jackass, jackass, that jackass. I guess he 25 00:01:55,439 --> 00:01:57,879 had like fifty thousand fans and all these bands played before him and then he 26 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,879 they said his throat was sore or his voice was gone, but he's out. 27 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,599 He was drunk, okay, axel what they did. What they do 28 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,560 is they put a thing on on the big screen, We're sorry, show 29 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,719 was canceled. Then they have someone walk out and say something. Everybody thought 30 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:19,080 they were kidding. People drove, you know, drive drove for miles, 31 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,159 you know, I stay whatever to see this concert. And yeah, he's 32 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:28,159 a mass right now. That's too bad. Is he the guy? Is 33 00:02:28,199 --> 00:02:32,800 he the subject of uh that one movie with Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga, 34 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,039 the guy, the drunk dude, the star is born Star. That's a 35 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,120 real life. It could be, It could be. I mean that that's 36 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,199 that was the third edition of that. Yeah, it's a remake right fourth, 37 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,919 uh fourth, four to fourth maybe four those Yes, he did. 38 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Someone thought enough of that movie to do it four types like twenty seven times 39 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,360 like four stars. But Barbara Streisand was in the in the one, the 40 00:02:57,479 --> 00:03:00,800 last one, Life, the last one. Then uh, Judy Garland, 41 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,360 Yeah, and then there was a one before there was one before that. 42 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:07,439 I don't know, Silent, a silent film. I'll look it up. 43 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,479 I'm not I wouldn't see it. If I was, I wouldn't meet this 44 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:16,759 up. I'm very up. Were moving really fast, thinking I'm an alcoholic. 45 00:03:16,759 --> 00:03:23,400 Didn't worked for that out thinking, think I'm so bummed out. I'm 46 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:29,199 not gonna get any more of those giant blue coupons in the mail from bed 47 00:03:29,199 --> 00:03:31,719 bathroom beyond Well, they're officially closed. I think they're officially closing. They're 48 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,319 filed bankruptcy, they're going out of business. It's it Amazons strikes again? 49 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:44,120 How many times? Mark Star was born nineteen thirty seven with Janet Gainer and 50 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:49,719 Frederick March Okay, then fifty four with Talkinge f It's a Talkinge, then 51 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:52,759 Barbara Stress and christ was the truck in the latest one. All right. 52 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,759 The I did not know there before the yeah, the bed bathroom beyond thing. 53 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,960 I kind of bumped me out a little bit because not not bed bathroom, 54 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:00,840 I can give a shit, right, but you go in there, 55 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,360 it was always something. Yeah, you always had something you needed. Knives 56 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,400 you could get, and betting and you know, all kinds of stuff in 57 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:11,840 there. Hangars and then anytime you went in, even if with your receipt 58 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,159 and you had the twenty percent coupon, right, you could come back and 59 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:16,319 they would take it off and give it back. I mean, he was 60 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,920 like, I don't know how they had I was wondering how they did this 61 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:26,160 business model and apparently not well. But it's weird because I go, you 62 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:29,680 know, here's the lesson in this to me. You know how we hear 63 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,000 everybody say support local, support local, support local, because you know, 64 00:04:34,439 --> 00:04:39,240 the world is changing fast and a lot of people do their shopping online. 65 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,199 I mean places like Wayfair right, they needed chairs. Once I didn't go 66 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,600 to bed, Bath and Beyond for a kitchen table stuff, I didn't go 67 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:48,600 anymore. I looked at Wayfair well you know chairs, so I and I 68 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:51,240 started to thinking, go, man, this is it's it's all changing so 69 00:04:51,319 --> 00:04:55,319 quickly. And then we always hear about that, well you got a shop 70 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,560 local and they have what is it around the holiday shop local Saturday or something. 71 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,680 Better get out there and support a little bit here, because kind of 72 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,959 bums you out is life changes a little yeah, you know, you know, 73 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:06,759 just see stuff go away? It really it really does. I mean 74 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:10,120 not to bension like I know it was a sport local, but at the 75 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,399 same time, you know, yeah, I mean like people look at it 76 00:05:13,399 --> 00:05:15,399 like, well it's a national chain. They'll start what about the people to 77 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,839 work there? Oh yeah, you know that's a local. That's the thing. 78 00:05:17,079 --> 00:05:20,720 Like when on Twitter every once in a while, all these uh Bills 79 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:26,680 writers and Bill's opinionists and whatever all get together and they started complaining about something 80 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,800 and they go, what's a restaurant that you thought was cool as a kid, 81 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,839 but you think is crash now? And I'm like, you guys are 82 00:05:31,879 --> 00:05:38,920 bashing businesses right after COVID Could you keep your mouth shuts cheeze? What the 83 00:05:38,959 --> 00:05:41,759 hell doesn't matter? Young on, let's answer that question. What is the 84 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:46,120 restaurant? Thought? It was cool? It was a kid that you know, 85 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,800 it's like not good easy chucky cheese bomb. Yeah, and actually I 86 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,519 didn't hate chucky cheese pza. Whether I had my kid's birthday parties, there 87 00:05:55,639 --> 00:05:58,920 wasn't bad. I didn't hate it. Not bad. Yeah, it's okay. 88 00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:00,160 It's not beer, so that's good. Yeah. But they limit your 89 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,600 beard, did you know that? Yes, because they don't want drunk parents. 90 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:06,959 You don't wround with the kids. You do you drive home and you 91 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,480 there? What is wrong with you? What? I just said that they 92 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,720 limit a you know somebody who is someone who didn't drive whydns. They have 93 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:18,160 a couple of beers. They shouldn't be limited. I guess that's my whole 94 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,879 point where I'm going with that. Yeah, but you's got to be show 95 00:06:20,879 --> 00:06:24,040 he can't have you drunk in front of the children. Well, I me 96 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,800 to not show you my license because I don't have it. Somebody's gonna get 97 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,319 in a fight with them. Nouse, Because I was like Chuck You've never 98 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,000 been drunk in front of your children? Oh no, No I have. 99 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,439 But what I'm saying is they don't want to be responsible for me. But 100 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,920 if I choose to get drunk in front of my children, that's just my 101 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,839 choice, right, I mean, that was my my bad. Yeah, 102 00:06:42,879 --> 00:06:45,519 they did. There are times. There were times when I lived in Pittsford 103 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,079 that literally one time I had to be pointed in the direction of my house 104 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,360 to go just walk that way. That was at neighbors. We were walking 105 00:06:51,439 --> 00:06:56,240 and I was still hammered, hammered, hammered. Is that Bill wandered through 106 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,199 the neighborhood again? The sounds really really bad, literally bad to my neighbor 107 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,600 once lives across the street. We had to point him in. Yeah, 108 00:07:03,639 --> 00:07:09,560 you got a point and we pushed him again. Did Damien and Dan like 109 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,680 escort you to your house from the middle house? They did that once, 110 00:07:12,879 --> 00:07:17,759 not not from how it, No, they did yesterday did uh well? 111 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,480 As the world is changing though too. I did see and we didn't really 112 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:27,079 talk about this much yesterday. But uh, CNN, I like the way 113 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,000 they say this because I don't think Tucker Carlson was fired. I know everybody 114 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,519 is going on great guns. You know, they parted ways and blah blah 115 00:07:34,519 --> 00:07:40,519 blah and the view Hey look squawk box, Well, I know, not 116 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:43,279 my thing. I don't like where they step all over each other. I 117 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:45,720 don't really care. I just don't like any of them period. I don't 118 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:49,079 know anybody other than Whoopie that's on the show anymore, or maybe Joy, 119 00:07:49,279 --> 00:07:53,319 But I don't think she was on for this, but it got announced on 120 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,720 their show yesterday. The word has just come down that Fox News Media and 121 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Tucker Carlson have agreed to heart Ways. Well, thank you for a service 122 00:08:05,639 --> 00:08:15,240 to that. We're going to host you require contribute ways. You know, 123 00:08:15,639 --> 00:08:18,759 we'll talk more about it tomorrow because but we wanted to make sure that we 124 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,360 let you know what was going. Well, can I can I ask the 125 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,279 audience if they will help me do something? Come on, folks, na 126 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:43,039 na, I mean say nada. I don't think anyone likes to celebrate the 127 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,919 demise of someone's career. But he's but he is responsible for the demise of 128 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:54,440 someone's career. Yeh. But but he is responsible for the degradation that we 129 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,360 see somewhat of our democracy in this country. And I just think is a 130 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,200 faithful person, look at God, look at God. Well in Russian propaganda, 131 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,080 hardest hit. I mean, he's been the biggest purveyor of pro Russ 132 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:09,000 hockey. Yeah, so it's a good day for the Ukraine. Karma. 133 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:15,360 Carmon doesn't lose anyone's address, so well, it may misplace that address, 134 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,120 it does not lose. Those are some unpleasant bitches all wow. I mean 135 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,600 yeah, I mean, look, Tucker Carlson has gone hard at things, 136 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,320 and so people he's very polarizing, either love him or hate him. Fox 137 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:33,519 News lost that big lawsuit. It probably wasn't going to be profitable anymore to 138 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:35,879 I don't know what he was being paid. I know he was the most 139 00:09:35,919 --> 00:09:41,159 viewed on that station. Yeah, so it may not have been profitable. 140 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,759 I'm gonna tell you right now. I think Tucker was already leaving. I 141 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,840 have heard rumblings, and I know people who were sort of in that associate 142 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,799 that they don't associate with Tucker, but they know Tucker. And he was 143 00:09:56,039 --> 00:10:01,639 very intrigued and almost like what's happening here the Independent. He was really into 144 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,840 that, and he had started doing some documentary news style documentaries that I think 145 00:10:05,879 --> 00:10:11,879 they were running on maybe some side Fox channel that was streaming only, and 146 00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:13,600 I think he owned it. I think he owned the production of that kind 147 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,720 of stuff, and I think he wanted to do that. He wanted to 148 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,440 have his own shop and open it up. So I don't think that this 149 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:22,600 is necessarily a firing, I will tell you though. I do think it 150 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:28,200 was great that that came out the same day as Don Lemon and that dude 151 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,000 from NBC. They didn't get the headlines and there's were a little more scandalous, 152 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,759 you know. Don Levin said some I don't know some shit about Nicky 153 00:10:37,799 --> 00:10:41,120 Haley or whatever else, and people are bitching about what a dva he used 154 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,840 to after he went after a co anchor yeah on the air and then made 155 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,000 her cry yeah, all that stuff. And then and then he had the 156 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:50,519 guy from NBC who had this inappropriate relationship, so they fired him with cause 157 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,039 he was like, he's big time management guy. I think it's like Mike 158 00:10:54,159 --> 00:10:58,159 Shell or something like that. But he got let go. And then now 159 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,879 the Post has a big thing that this woman also had an affair with an 160 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:07,639 oil tycoon who was married, but she filed sexual harassment charges against him, 161 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,440 and then they were found by independent counsel to be, so he was fired 162 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,840 with cause. But again those things seem to get overshadowed by the Tucker Carlson 163 00:11:15,879 --> 00:11:18,720 announcement. And I don't I don't know. I just thought I have never 164 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:22,399 I'd never really, I'd never watched them. I was never a fan of 165 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,080 Tucker Carlson. I don't get I know a lot of people who are. 166 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,519 But everybody said the same thing a couple points on this. Everybody said the 167 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:31,879 same thing when Bill O'Reilly got can they were doing the same thing. They 168 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:35,960 were celebrating, and who they replaced them with Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson at 169 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,360 that point was still considered a laughing stock. And they moved them in that 170 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,200 sea, and they moved them into that slot, and all of a sudden, 171 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,919 it's like anybody in that slot, if they have half a brain, 172 00:11:46,399 --> 00:11:50,879 is gonna succeed if they, you know, continue to do the talking points 173 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:54,080 that Fox wants them to do it. I think Tucker even went beyond what 174 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,679 Fox wanted to do. And I think he and Fox class. The other 175 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,840 thing is he can make way more money, like you said, doing it 176 00:12:00,919 --> 00:12:03,159 in the independently, and he knew this. He did a podcast, so 177 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,559 it'll be He'll be better than it was. A blessing. So they're gonna 178 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,399 replace this guy with somebody else. Is gonna be the next Bill All Riley 179 00:12:07,399 --> 00:12:11,559 slash Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson's gonna be fine. But the thing is, 180 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,080 like, I love all the view goes. We're not gonna talk about this 181 00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:18,519 today. Why because they don't have they're talking points or anybody whispering their ear 182 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,159 any facts because they have to be spoon fed everyone. Well, yeah, 183 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,480 the only thing I was like, it's not the demise of a career. 184 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:26,759 That's the only thing I would disagree with. It is not cheer and sing 185 00:12:26,799 --> 00:12:28,960 and do all the bullet I don't care whatever, but the but it's not 186 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,600 the demise of career, right, I think if anything else this is, 187 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,639 you know, he's gonna go and make a ton more money. I'm not 188 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,480 more money. I'm not singing until they fire all of them from the view. 189 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,080 I hate that show. I hate them. There's nothing good about that 190 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,879 show. And I haven't watched in years and years, and I'm gonna tell 191 00:12:45,879 --> 00:12:48,039 you, and I'll tell you why fair they can't get there. I don't 192 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,440 want to say it on air particular reason behind that. They can't do that. 193 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:52,799 I will tell you off fair enough. It's okay to talk about we'll 194 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,519 talk about it, all right. But they can't get their facts straight though, 195 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:58,720 to save their lives. Like they've done fact checks on the stuff that 196 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:01,240 comes up on the view that's wrong. Oh that's wrong. No, that 197 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,720 didn't happen. An opinion it is, it is, But you gotta gotta 198 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,279 have fact based opinion because they're doing the same thing they're accusing Tucker. Yes, 199 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,000 that's the same. By the way, Rachel Rachel Maddow does the same 200 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:15,519 thing. They call her the Democratic bill O'Reilly, Yeah, she's the same 201 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,960 way. But we like her because she is a nicer way about her. 202 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:24,279 She's a little more Thyris stopped with you when you get the vaccine. I'll 203 00:13:24,279 --> 00:13:26,399 say it. I mean, I'll say, if you if you made me 204 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:33,799 um on that show. I'm tired of the victim race. Oh what do 205 00:13:33,799 --> 00:13:39,480 you mean by celebrating victim hood? No, he's say you're saying in terms 206 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:43,879 of race, yes, race relations. Yeah, I mean that's a tough 207 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:46,360 one because, um, I think that there's a lot of times where we 208 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,360 don't even see what's happening in the world, you know what I mean, 209 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,279 Like I I can't A lot of people agree with what you're saying. There's 210 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,320 many, many, many, many many mans. Isn't a racial comment for 211 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,679 me. Maban might come out as it. But when I I why, 212 00:14:01,759 --> 00:14:05,440 I have a guy that there's a guy on TikTok and he every day he 213 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,440 goes through what they see on the view. There's a lot of messed up 214 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,759 shit. If me and you were to say this, yes, you know 215 00:14:11,799 --> 00:14:15,559 what being the other girls can say whatever that, if me and you were 216 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,799 to see it's like, I'm kind of uncomfortable talking about this right now, 217 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,200 right this is the kind of world we're living. It the double standard he's 218 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,879 talking absolutely. Yeah, like Jane Fonda going on saying that she is willing 219 00:14:24,919 --> 00:14:28,879 to kill like Christians who stand up against abortion. She didn't say it like 220 00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:31,720 that, but she pretty much said it. Right. But if that were 221 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,919 like, if the roles were reversed, then like you know, oh, 222 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,600 they need to be canceled. Well, it's a it's a it's tough because 223 00:14:41,039 --> 00:14:46,840 you're talking about women who are already been basically marginalized by society for many, 224 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,679 many, many years. Right, we have one of the biggest women suffrages, 225 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:56,559 I understand, but women suffrages in our own city right with Susan B. 226 00:14:56,639 --> 00:15:00,519 Anthony fighting for the you know, pushing for the right just to vote, 227 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:03,519 to have a voice to be heard. So I think that, you 228 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:05,960 know, the way I look at this stuff is the more you push against 229 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,840 shit, the worse it gets. The worse it gets, you want to 230 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,639 have a war, you want to call it a war on anything that guess 231 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:16,720 what You're gonna get a fucking war. Yeah, I just, I just, 232 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,399 I literally believe that. So I always sidestep that stuff, which may 233 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,240 be weak. But I don't know. When it comes to the race stuff, 234 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,039 I understand that some people feel like maybe it's gone too far, maybe 235 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,639 we've done I don't know. I've only been in this skin and I do 236 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:37,559 have uh nieces and nephews who are of mixed race, and I think that 237 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,679 there's there are some things that have been eye opening to me. And they're 238 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:46,679 from memes, by the way, they're from memes, like their dad is 239 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:50,840 a Chicago University of Chicago, which is considered the Ivy League of the Midwest 240 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:56,720 educated lawyer. So I can't I don't know, like I always go, 241 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,799 I don't like to weigh in on that because only because I don't know enough. 242 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,600 You don't know what you don't know. This is the thing. I 243 00:16:03,679 --> 00:16:06,440 was like, I know, I know, like when I hear white privilege, 244 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,720 and I think that pisses people off, and I go, all that 245 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:12,519 means to me is when I get pulled over, I got less likely to 246 00:16:12,559 --> 00:16:17,639 get in trouble than anybody else. Now, I had somewhat celebrity status in 247 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:21,440 this town, so I got a guy got pulled over and let go a 248 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,840 lot. I mean, I'm the mayor B Kennedy, you know, right, 249 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,360 but you understand what I'm saying. Like, but I also know that 250 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:33,720 I got pulled over. And I told these guys in the super ru that 251 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,919 I've given to my son. Right that car you saw me in, I 252 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,799 was driving, yeah, And I'm driving down the New York State Thruway a 253 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,919 couple months ago doing something like ninety and I got pulled over. And I 254 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,320 mean, you're in a twenty year old car. It's kind of questionable, 255 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,320 right, weird a little bit. And the guy said to me, I 256 00:16:53,399 --> 00:16:56,399 just slow down. I said, it goes where you're going or you know. 257 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,120 And I don't even It wasn't even anything. I oh, I I 258 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:03,480 think I also I might have had I don't know something that I could have 259 00:17:03,559 --> 00:17:07,279 pound we eat in the drunk. No, but I'm just saying like like 260 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,279 I've got no questions, like no questions. I don't know. People probably 261 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,440 listening right now going I don't fucking care man, Yeah, but I didn't. 262 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:21,279 I got no questions. It was literally on the New York State through 263 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:26,160 a pullover, walked up to the passenger window because you know, it comes 264 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,319 over, goes license registration. I say something to the guy, Hey, 265 00:17:29,319 --> 00:17:30,880 he goes. Just slow that, sir, you're listening to Stepan Wolf. 266 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,480 That's it. That was it, So I Mark. All I can say 267 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:38,880 is to me, that's what they mean by white privilege. I can go 268 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:45,119 on with this about what's happened and why is it okay for the blacks to 269 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,599 say support black business. But if I was to say, come and support 270 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,480 my white business, it would be an issue. Well, I think because 271 00:17:53,519 --> 00:18:00,599 so many times that we don't we don't have enough to support business. I 272 00:18:00,599 --> 00:18:03,839 think black business has often been marginalized, forgotten in parts of cities that are 273 00:18:03,839 --> 00:18:07,359 impoverished. We hear about food deserts and things like that. So I don't 274 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:12,680 know that it's necessarily a bad thing. I understand where people don't forget where 275 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,920 I worked for three years now, I know, so I at different There 276 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:21,799 are people who will have different experiences. I've experienced different things. I saw 277 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,440 people who are of all shades and they didn't act like good people. Right, 278 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:29,720 Oh, absolutely, okay, So I would I think that that that 279 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:34,240 does change people. I've known people who have been I've worked in in urban 280 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:37,000 environments and have said, you know, some of the people were great, 281 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,400 some of the people were the worst you'd ever say. I don't know, 282 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,559 I don't know. I an incident happened to me a couple of years ago 283 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,720 when I was going to work in Red Front. Yeah. Um, it 284 00:18:47,799 --> 00:18:52,000 was the June. It was the Juneteenth Parade, and the parade wasn't wasn't 285 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,759 supported by the city, so they did it them So, yeah, they 286 00:18:56,759 --> 00:18:59,519 did it themselves, and they got bikers and stuff like that. Well, 287 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:04,839 I was driving up Bandrew Street to go to work and I went through the 288 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,079 parade. I guess, I don't know, but I don't. I don't 289 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,720 know what I did. I still don't know what I did. This guy 290 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:14,359 to this very date says, I disrespect. I don't know how I did. 291 00:19:15,079 --> 00:19:18,480 So I park. Can I go across the street and I'm going and 292 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:22,759 I have these three guys come up to me and they got a camera. 293 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,000 Well, first of all, I don't know who they are. Yeah, 294 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,759 I don't know what's going on what I did? All right? Then the 295 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,279 videos still around. They posted the video. We find it. I got 296 00:19:32,279 --> 00:19:34,039 it on my phone. Can we play it? Absolutely, you can play 297 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:37,279 it. Like to play that video and I come off stupid, which is 298 00:19:37,319 --> 00:19:42,240 fine, Well that's not all that different. Castro. Come on, I 299 00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:45,279 didn't know what junteenth was. Okay, no wait now, hang on, 300 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:51,279 time out that I don't think that that's necessarily a bad thing to even admit, 301 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:56,240 because it was not something that was taught, wasn't or celebrated when you 302 00:19:56,279 --> 00:20:00,559 were coming up. You're as old as I am, over fifty. You 303 00:20:00,599 --> 00:20:03,880 didn't have that, So I can't. I'd like to think, like, 304 00:20:04,079 --> 00:20:08,640 you know, I do know what it is, but I know that I 305 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:14,839 also have people in my life that are very conscious of it. Right if 306 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,160 you don't and you weren't aware, Now, the other thing is I know 307 00:20:18,319 --> 00:20:22,960 you. I don't think you would be disrespectful. No, I really don't. 308 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:26,000 You may not agree with something, but you're not gonna I didn't even 309 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,839 know. I got it, but I know. But they didn't have at 310 00:20:29,839 --> 00:20:32,680 the time, the permits to do the parade. The streets weren't closed. 311 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,359 You didn't get traffic alerts. Hey reroute here, and so you were just 312 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,079 going to work. You're just you're Mark. I didn't even I got it. 313 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,839 I got to see it. I got it. You're just like, 314 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,920 hey man. But the guy I found out is a big time lawyer in 315 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,920 the city. Yeah, so all of a sudden someone told him that guy 316 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,759 who got on video. He goes, he worked in the news channel for 317 00:20:52,759 --> 00:20:55,839 for eighteen years. He has every New York every pool in New York State, 318 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,240 you know, news channels. So he's like, uh, he goes 319 00:20:59,279 --> 00:21:00,440 all right, and he says, you can take it down. He never 320 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:06,440 did, Okay, So he has a Facebook. Yeah, and I check 321 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,640 his Facebook at all the time because I used to do it at BRD front 322 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,400 and see where where they were going to going. They're the kind of he's 323 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,599 the kind of guy that goes and helps these neighborhoods, but he's doing it 324 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,759 with his phone. Making sure that you know when he runs from politics, 325 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,079 did he has that? Not like Nick Pinon, who I work for. 326 00:21:23,599 --> 00:21:27,119 We give food to the people and stuff like that. I understand. So 327 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,000 I know I'm going a little off. I get what you're saying. You're 328 00:21:30,039 --> 00:21:33,880 saying that this is a person who seems to be an opportunitist that's taking advantage 329 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,759 of maybe his own people in a way, not but helping him. But 330 00:21:40,519 --> 00:21:42,559 I spent more time on Clinton Avenue than this guy. Daddy. Well, 331 00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:45,720 look again, I can't. I mean we can. We can compare this 332 00:21:45,799 --> 00:21:49,720 too exactly that the city is doing right now. Right, the city right 333 00:21:49,759 --> 00:21:55,640 now is suing Kia and Hyundai. Now I talked to Steve Circue. This 334 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,200 is a civil matter. He's a defense attorney. But while play some of 335 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,519 that when we come back, and we'll find your video because we got to 336 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:06,119 play that too now now that you went down this fucking road. But I 337 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,240 would I don't know. I mean, I think, like the city of 338 00:22:10,319 --> 00:22:15,599 Rochester suing the I try to go open minded because I think the first knee 339 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,680 jerk reaction we talked about this last night is one to say, how about 340 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,920 you fucking behave why do we have to blame the car manufacturers. Why don't 341 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:29,039 we just behave How do we get people to stop stealing? As Sheriff Baxter 342 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,759 off off air and I hope I'm not speaking even off record, told me 343 00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:38,880 there's been one young person who's been arrested six times for stealing cars and let 344 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,799 back out. Now that's not something that they would like to see, right, 345 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,759 So, but that's a lot, right how many before we make it 346 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,759 a little more. That's not Keya's fault, that's not Hyundai's fault. Did 347 00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:55,519 they I mean, they didn't knowingly. And Steve will bring up some good 348 00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:57,000 points. I'll play this back for you. I talked to him earlier today. 349 00:22:57,039 --> 00:23:03,480 But I think to me that has a little bit of political grandstanding. 350 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:06,960 And yet at the same time, and I said this last night when Malie 351 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:11,359 Evans was talking the mayor of Rochester about this, and Cleveland's doing it, 352 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,119 San Diego's doing it, Seattle's doing it, Buffalo is doing it, and 353 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,480 now Rochester is. They're all doing It's all separate lawsuits that they're coming they're 354 00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:22,440 maybe, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. And Steve even said this, 355 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,079 if Kia and Hundai settle because they don't want to look like monsters, 356 00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:33,440 right that are doing things to purposely put people at risk of losing their items 357 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:37,839 or not being safe in any way, or just not caring or not caring. 358 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:44,079 And I think that so, but it who's gonna get the money, 359 00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:48,160 where's this gonna go? And what happens? And it looks great because you 360 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,519 know, I'm kind of rambling here, but they like a grandma who lost 361 00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:57,039 her car is really inconvenience the family who's working on dual incomes and somebody can't 362 00:23:57,039 --> 00:24:00,960 get to work, and maybe it's a a salary job but an hourly job, 363 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:03,440 and you need to get there in order to get your money, and 364 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:07,519 you can't because your car has been impounded, and now it becomes a bigger 365 00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:10,319 expense and a bigger albatross around your neck, and maybe you gotta wait a 366 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,359 day to get you see, I mean, the person who gets fucked is 367 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,359 the is the person who got their car stolen. But I don't know that 368 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:25,839 that's necessarily Hyundai or Keya's fault, right, right, So the problem is, 369 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,920 like you know, Danny brought up, I think last night Pinto Pinto 370 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,559 had the gas tank in the back and people I should have a reasonable expectation. 371 00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:37,680 And Steve even touches on this that if I'm driving my car and somebody 372 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,920 does isn't paying attention and they drive into the back of me, that my 373 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,119 family afford isn't gonna die a fiery death. That's what was happening. That's 374 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,920 a reasonable expectation to sue a manufacture. There is no reasonable expectation when you 375 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,599 buy a car that it's not gonna get stolen. There's no way to I 376 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,400 mean, right, if no one can predict that. There are things the 377 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,680 anti FF wait till somebody figures out how to circumvent that, what do we 378 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,759 do that? And so these are the things. But to your point, 379 00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:07,319 sometimes it does seem like political opportunists. And I would say that, and 380 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,240 it's just it's just why are you Why are you uh, you know, 381 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,359 surrounding a middle aged white guy, you know, because you're a middle aged 382 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,880 white guy going through something that to them was very disrespectful. It's all comes 383 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,119 from perspective. Shouldn't seven shouldn't shouldn't that be? Shouldn't they be worried about 384 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,359 the shootings every night? Shouldn't we all be worried about it? You know 385 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,079 what I'm saying. It's like I would think that I think that most of 386 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,680 the city is I think that people are scared and they don't say anything, 387 00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:33,640 right, I really do. I truly do believe that. I don't think 388 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,599 anybody in the city likes what's happening there. I right, But I think 389 00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:41,279 in that moment, it wasn't about the shootings. No, it was about 390 00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:47,240 celebrating a heritage and something that people that have been marginalized, and most people 391 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,160 that can trace their history back to being enslaved here. So that's what that 392 00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:59,559 was. Here comes a white guy driving to the videos. Hey, guys, 393 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,440 what need it having a black party? It's great? Well, you 394 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,359 know what I mean. I think that's how they saw you. I know 395 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,519 you, I know you. You're a big dumb teddy bear. Yeah, 396 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:15,319 well you're a big teddy bear. But I think you wouldn't do ever ever 397 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,359 join. The other part of this is I think when you get cornered, 398 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,599 you also, oh, no, what do you want me to do? 399 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:23,720 I had three guys, I don't know what's gonna happen, right, don't 400 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,079 forget what happened to me a couple of weeks ago. So I was so 401 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,720 you know, I always had to be on Yeah, watch what I say 402 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,720 it, watched pay six. I didn't know what's going to happen. I 403 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:38,200 didn't realize it was some young powerful attorney who was worried about me and he 404 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,000 should be you know, maybe he should be worried about other things and worried 405 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,880 about me and what I'm doing. Yeah, I think that sometimes we all, 406 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,319 all of us focus sometimes on the wrong thing, but we're in the 407 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,279 moment, and that was in the moment that's on when they you know what 408 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:55,720 I mean, it's you think emotionally first and then rationally second. I think 409 00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:59,880 everybody that's that's a fact. I mean, we all we need your That's 410 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,799 why I always try in these situations because it's not anything that's impacting me right 411 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:08,279 now. What mayor Evans says doesn't impact me right now. 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You use the code Bill twenty and you can do that at 456 00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:53,480 Yeah Kenvithn wearing underwear. You just put this lotion all over. That works. 457 00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:56,759 Yep, that's it. And they even got the spray to keep it. 458 00:29:57,319 --> 00:30:00,000 I gotta pull over and fresh it up. I'm ready to go. 459 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:21,119 Man Escaped dot com down the way where the nights are gay and the sun 460 00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:26,759 shines daily on the mountain top. I took a trip on a sailing ship, 461 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,920 and when I reached Jimmy Ka, I made a stop a time, 462 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:37,000 sad to say I'm on my way. Won't be back for many a day. 463 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:41,839 Harry Belafonte's down my Head is turning in six years old. This is 464 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,640 some of the first phases I ever played on the radio. Is it really 465 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,480 the original hits? The forties, fifties and sixties on thirty ninety w E 466 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,720 okay, well year was this fifty seven? H Yeah? I probably around 467 00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:59,319 there. Yeah, I think it was the late fifties because I'm watching Missus 468 00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:07,680 Maizels Marvelous and it's in episode I'm in season four and who's the guy that 469 00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:11,680 she was on tour with and then kicked her off because she basically told everybody 470 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,759 he's gay without saying he's gay. It was a sig something. Yeah. 471 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:22,200 And so anyway, he gets married and he calls Harry Belafonte up to sing 472 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,960 a song okay yeah at his wedding, and I just thought it was funny. 473 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,920 I just saw that like the other day. And then today, Harry 474 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,759 Belifonte at ninety six years old past there's a there's a clip of him and 475 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,400 Count from Sesame Street doing a song on a beach. Count's got a hat 476 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,119 on the first thing I think of, he's a vampire. He can't be 477 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,759 out, so he's got a hat, I know, But still but yeah, 478 00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:44,599 he was singing with him. Yeah. Yeah, May he rest in 479 00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:48,279 people I did see today. Speaking of Sesame Street, the woman who played 480 00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:52,960 the Wicked Witch of the West was once on Sesame Street. Oh real, 481 00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:56,000 Wizard of Oz. They got so many complaints, including an adult to the 482 00:31:56,119 --> 00:32:01,160 children's counsel with an adult saying I have had a hard time sleeping since seeing 483 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:06,880 her on that They never ever aired it ever again. It is considered the 484 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,519 lost episode of Sesame Street, and I think you can now find it online. 485 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,440 Was she playing herself? Was yeah? Yeah, oh wow witch? 486 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:17,559 Was she in black and white? Uh? That woman just looked it was 487 00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:21,680 bad. I go, I don't think they did much makeup. She just 488 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,960 looked played herself looked out way. He went. Yeah, there's not much 489 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,240 else you could have played in Hollywood. Oh my, you know what I 490 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:32,559 mean? Yeah? Yeah. So she finally gets work again after what okay, 491 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,799 which boss came out in thirty seven? I think there's a stouteen seventy 492 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:39,799 six, So okay, So thirty nine years later, she finally gets another 493 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,759 job. And by the way, and they can't very recognizable as the Witch. 494 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,839 That's one of those people that like Wilfred Brimley, you were just fucking 495 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:51,400 old when you popped on the planet. It's just always looked, always, 496 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,759 always looked at home. It's the same age as what ted Tom Cruise. 497 00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:58,519 And like when Tom Cruise is doing Mission Impossible, he's doing all his own 498 00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:00,240 stunt. He's doing studs and hanging off the side of the other guys. 499 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:07,079 The other guy's taking his blood. Yeah, check your blood sugar. Well, 500 00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:10,640 look all right. And he lived to be in his eighties. Yeah, 501 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,279 he did because he kept checking his blood sugar. So his Quaker roats. 502 00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:17,960 We had mentioned. Uh, Mark was saying that he had a video 503 00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:24,359 where he was confronted by people not knowing that there was a Juneteenth parade before 504 00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:28,079 it was a national holiday, which I believe now it is, Yes, 505 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,200 it is, yeah, and uh most places are shut down. I think. 506 00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:36,519 I think most people who had no idea what Juneteenth is are like, 507 00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:42,480 yeah, I'll take But it was a day just basically to commemorate the freedom 508 00:33:42,519 --> 00:33:45,200 of slavery, the abbossment of slavery, and some of the accomplishments that people 509 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,319 have made to the society over the years. But they had this parade in 510 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,000 Rochester and it wasn't an official where the city shut streets down, but they 511 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,000 had blocked off streets, and I don't think anybody was interfering with anything. 512 00:33:57,039 --> 00:33:59,599 I think that no one knew really what to do, right, probably in 513 00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:01,039 the city. Well, I have a reason why they did it, but 514 00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:04,240 I don't want to say it because then I come off as an asshole. 515 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,599 Again, Well, you are an asshole, so just to brace your assholeness. 516 00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,280 They saw, they saw a fat, freaking, middle aged white guy 517 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,480 a crossing the street. That's not what I'm saying. That wasn't what I 518 00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:17,159 was saying. What I'm saying. They had parade. We have the parade, 519 00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:22,320 but the parade when they had it was not sanctioned by the city. 520 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,360 In other words, let's say I'm trying to Saint Patrick's Day parade, Labor 521 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,400 Day parade. They shut down the streets and you can't drive through there. 522 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,239 They didn't shut down the streets officially, No, no, because the city 523 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,239 hadn't, So you didn't know, and there was no warning. There was 524 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,159 no police officers say hey move, you know what I mean, even a 525 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,920 road race they shut down the streets, right, They didn't do that, 526 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,960 so you didn't know, and you came in and you were going to work 527 00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:50,320 right, right, And I think that you're right. I do think perception 528 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,280 in that it's someone who's being disrespectful to something we're doing here, and in 529 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,400 their mind everybody knew about it, and in your mind you had no clue. 530 00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:00,800 Right, Yeah, I understand it. Co Yeah, this is how 531 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,719 misunderstanding has happened. And then that's why we need to the conversation that every 532 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,400 I think you would have been more understanding if things were explained to you, 533 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,400 but you didn't know. He didn't. I didn't go. There's the thing, 534 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,159 if you look at the video, I didn't. I mean it was 535 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,199 way over. I didn't really do anything wrong, Okay, I was just 536 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:20,320 going in the traction video. I haven't heard of this. I haven't seen 537 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,559 it or heard it. I thought you had it on your phone. Didn't 538 00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:25,280 you attack give it? I couldn't. Yeah, No I didn't. Yeah, 539 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,039 it had it connected to the broadcaster, to the roadcast you did bluetooth? 540 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,119 Yeah, it connected hit play play it. Watch this. You're gonna 541 00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:39,320 be amazed at this. Whose stomach is gurgling? I have no idea. 542 00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:44,239 It's not, dude. Somebody's stomach just gurgled like that. I think it's 543 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,119 the it's not the fridge. This is it playing now, buddy? Yeah, 544 00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:50,039 all right, never mind, I didn't I didn't hook up to it. 545 00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:52,960 All right, that's why I give it, says I phone thirteen promax 546 00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:57,360 that you. Yeah, I should be connected. There, turn your volume 547 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:06,880 up. Fancy white guy with his fancy phone. There we go. That 548 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,239 went by. So they were young at him. Okay, and here comes 549 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,719 to me, here comes me. I stop. I wonder why a car 550 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,519 is coming at me? And car is coming right at me. So I 551 00:36:21,559 --> 00:36:28,360 go and I turn around, I go, and I go right to the 552 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:38,519 liquor store. There go you know. Yeah, so that now they will 553 00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:43,119 walk over to me. Yeah, crossing the street. When I go after, 554 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:50,880 I go in pirate get the liquor star. What is that? Is 555 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:59,800 that? All right? So this is a juneteenth parade that wasn't getting much 556 00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:06,880 recognition by the city or maybe none at all in the populace from I would 557 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,519 know, right, I mean, if it was from the city, we 558 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,840 would have got to notice. It's a star. So I got it. 559 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:16,400 I got Okay. Now they're coming to talk to me. Yeah, that's 560 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:24,199 my blue car. Yeah holiday all right? All right, So I'm walking 561 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:29,239 across the street traffic, so I was like a bear today. All right, 562 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,639 this is this is a little tough. I want to I just why 563 00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:34,800 mind you to watch the video? That's all right, keep going, okay, 564 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:40,559 now it'll start. I'm walking across the street right now, here we 565 00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:50,920 go. I'm going right here we go. I'm getting out of my car. 566 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:58,599 No, hello, so we remember me, remember me just a second 567 00:37:58,599 --> 00:38:02,840 ago? You have something to say? Now you should be celace. You 568 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,400 know what today is. Guess what? I know where you're going. We 569 00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:13,440 can't just have a little conversation. Sure it's June teeth. You are very 570 00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:19,800 rude. Thank you. Celebrate June tee. Be a good black person, 571 00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:23,000 be a good white person. Celebrate can celebrate Joe. You know what June 572 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:30,719 teeth is? Oh yeah, what is your teeth? What is that meaning? 573 00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:36,800 Because if I fucking pisses me off every time, no like generically could 574 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:45,559 be any what what is June tee? June teenth is with black deerate what 575 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:52,519 folks like you unknowingly, whatcknowingly intertentionally and all aud your barn where it's slaving 576 00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:55,239 black folks. So I can't shake that head. I don't know if you're 577 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,400 watched it. Okay, you understand, we don't try to give me a 578 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:09,159 house once. I'll get yourself right on the other white people the food, 579 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,320 I know, hold on, hold on, you're missing something really important here. 580 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,280 I go to shake his hand and listen to what he says to me. 581 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,400 I heard him he wouldn't I didn't know if it was washed that already 582 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,280 played. Okay, yeah, I heard that, and then I heard him 583 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,519 say you would bring it to your aboms apple. So when I hear that, 584 00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:30,320 I can understand where you would be frustrated and mad. I really can. 585 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:37,199 I I would say, like with anybody, like why you're what's the 586 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,880 saying you attract more flies with honey than you do with vinegar When you're coming 587 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,920 that hard, I don't care who you are. White people referred to Karen's 588 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,280 when they come that hard that way? Are they not sure? Okay? 589 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,800 So I would think like you have a butt. At the same time, 590 00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:57,639 I think Juneteenth is a day that was not recognized and is starting now. 591 00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:00,880 I think only what in the last two year years two years that has been 592 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,519 a national holiday. But prior to that, you didn't know what it was. 593 00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:07,679 You tried to answer the question you weren't being rude to the guy. 594 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:14,719 I don't know that you can be, like you put yourself in danger by 595 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,840 going at cars when you're walking him. He went in my car. I 596 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,199 didn't go I didn't go near the parade. No, that's the problem. 597 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,920 Yeah, I understand. I get it, and I can see where the 598 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,480 frustration is, Like, I don't know, that's my that's the neighborhood did 599 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,159 I worked there for many years and and the man I worked for it was 600 00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:36,039 there for fifty years. Yeah, this is a rich kid. This is 601 00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:39,079 a rich kid from Brighton. Yeah, who never ever ever goes in Clinton 602 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:42,280 Avenue? Who does it? Because he's trying to be Malcolm X? All 603 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,079 right, Well, look I can't speak to that. I don't know, 604 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,679 but I would say to me, it sounds like somebody who's got you ever 605 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,639 have somebody go what else is going on in their day? Somebody you know, 606 00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,639 where someone kind of gives you a hard time about something, and what 607 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,079 else is going on in their day? What happened? What was it that 608 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,199 led to this? Because to me, you were polite, you didn't know 609 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,840 there was nothing. I understand where you're frustration in it, And I think 610 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,719 this is the sort of stuff that strains even worse some of the tensions that 611 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,360 we see racial tensions. Right it is, And he said ugly. I 612 00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:17,360 but I kind of didn't know. I gotta admit it's sort of funny. 613 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,599 I knew you would. I'm sorry, kid. I hear Mark going, 614 00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,320 uh, it's today, We're uh yeah, I know what it is. 615 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,400 I know it is or United. I mean, hey, bro, I'd 616 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,159 be shipping my pants too if if a bunch of if if three guys came 617 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,679 up to me and they weren't coming up to me to say I didn't know 618 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,199 who they were. But you understand what I'm saying, like, I don't 619 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:42,199 know that I did anything wrong. I have no idea. I'm just minding 620 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,599 my business, trying to go to work. I you did apologize, which 621 00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:50,280 heaped back down pretty quick because he said, I I appreciate that he said 622 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,719 something to that effect in the in the video. Did Am I hearing it 623 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,639 wrong? Danny? You heard that? Did you? Yeah? There was? 624 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,159 I mean, he came back, but he did say after he made 625 00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:00,800 the comment about shaking my no, that was that was dirty, my dirty 626 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,840 white hand. He didn't say that, he said, I hadn't he didn't 627 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,960 say dirty white hand, white dirty white hand. He said, I don't 628 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,800 know that you washed your hands. Just funny because it was this around the 629 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,519 time of COVID. No, when did this happen? Uh, two thousand 630 00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:23,760 and twenty one. Ok, that's COVID. That's COVID twenty two twenty two 631 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,960 is to cut off, that's COVID. Bro, they're still talking about COVID. 632 00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:30,280 Look at but do you see now? Wait, weren't telling you from 633 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,960 our perspective. What I really think it was was a COVID thing. It 634 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:40,639 had nothing to do whether you were white or not. But you don't our 635 00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:45,039 wrong, Bill, that was a total reshot thing would happen. Yeah, 636 00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:50,199 tell your people, Tell your people. If I was to see to him, 637 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,159 that's tell your people. That's fair that he did say that, that's 638 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,320 they were rash because here, but here's the thing. You're white. You 639 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,800 didn't know what it was. Tell your people that could be your friends or 640 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,559 whatever. Friends, though, Danny, I understand, and I know what 641 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,079 I know where you both are saying. But just put it this way. 642 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,679 You didn't know if if I, like, if I said to you, 643 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,119 tell your people people that you hang out with people you know, because you 644 00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:22,159 didn't know what it was. If you okay, we can disagree that was 645 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,559 racially motivated towards a white guy. Yes, I will say that the thing 646 00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:30,000 was probably was racially motivated. I also would say that you're talking about a 647 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,719 group of people for many, many many years have been marginalized and given less 648 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,320 than treated. You can't. I mean, look, even in the marvelous 649 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,480 Missus masl right, they didn't they have to bring food out to somebody because 650 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,159 they couldn't go into the certain restaurants when they were playing certain parts of the 651 00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:47,360 country. Go ahead, but I didn't do anything I know in that one. 652 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,920 I will admit that. But you handled it well. I had no 653 00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:54,360 choice. I didn't know if I was gonna get shot. Well. I 654 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,840 don't think you're gonna get shot well, Bill, I don't know when three? 655 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,440 When three? What are you supposed to think? First of all, 656 00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:04,199 I question that neighborhood. I would think it's threatening. I don't know what 657 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,800 would happen if three white, three white guys surrounding black you know, three 658 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:14,400 white guys surrounded a black guy, it would be it would be I'm racially 659 00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:19,440 motivated. Maybe it would be maybe get out of our neighborhood. Well, 660 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,639 it would be. It would be if there was nothing going on. I 661 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,320 mean, would know if I'm to bring up to bring some of my motorcycle 662 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,159 of friends, I'm down there and they're they and they circle one of the 663 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,239 guys who did that, and then and then it's an issue. It's not 664 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,559 an issue that they surrounded a white guy, but it would be an issue 665 00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:39,639 if they surrounded a black guy. I'm sorry marking the BT pople. I 666 00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:44,039 don't yeah, I mean, I don't know how many times anything but people 667 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:47,400 getting surrounded ever gets it raised up to the level of an issue, you 668 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,800 know, like in terms of what in terms of what are you saying, 669 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,559 I don't know what you're saying. All I'm saying is is that I worked 670 00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:58,119 there for three years, and we all know what happened to me there. 671 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,400 So I'm three right, I got robbed and he got an the parents ticket 672 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,480 and he's still on the street, you know what. And so okay, 673 00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:07,480 that's why I don't work there anymore, and that's why I'm doing I'm doing. 674 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,800 But what I'm trying to say is it would be an issue, and 675 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,239 it would probably be all over the place if three white guys surrounded a black 676 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:22,960 guy, probably just like I told you, Probably just like I told you, 677 00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:30,719 a family dollar was being robbed. A cop shoots the robber. The 678 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,800 robber, the guy's a black man, has a gun on two Spanish girls. 679 00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:39,280 Happens to have a cop in the in the store. The cop shoots 680 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:45,800 him. This gentleman I'm talking about on his Facebook what's his name? His 681 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:52,199 name is Diallo Paine. Okay, and um, very very smart gentleman, 682 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:58,639 I would say, very educated. Um, he's worried about how the shoot, 683 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,480 how the robber was treated by the Copah, not know, that's just 684 00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:07,079 it anytime a cop, the CoP's hands are tied in the city right now, 685 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,880 and that's obviously what happens. Because I have a guy that came in 686 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:14,519 and robbed my plays and he's on an appearance ticket. Yeah, they have 687 00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:17,599 their hands tie. Well, they're trying to do things the law is and 688 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,719 it's and I think it they need to rework something because the idea is that 689 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,199 if you steal a pack of gum, right, you don't get detained and 690 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,599 not be able to go to work and not try to keep contributing to society. 691 00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:34,360 Because he did something as simple as you know, rob the liquor I 692 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,679 mean robbed the liquor store. Now, look to you, it's a big 693 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,320 deal because you were the one robbed. You were the one who had that 694 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,840 trauma. I'm not going to deny that that's a scary situation. You were 695 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,000 also the guy who was confronted by three guys. But I would assume if 696 00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:51,360 somebody's got a camera that nothing, They're not going to do anything to incriminate 697 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,519 themselves. At least that's work that you don't think. You're absolutely right. 698 00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:57,519 But you don't think that at first, of course. No, no, 699 00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:00,920 no, I understand I might, but that's me only because I'm gonna because 700 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,800 you're smarter. No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying at 701 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,079 all. I just try to assess situations really fast if I can, And 702 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:09,280 that would be the first thing that popped in. At least I would think. 703 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,920 I wouldn't want to make it confrontational. I wouldn't want to. I'm 704 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,840 not saying somebody might hit you, but I'm thinking that something like a gun 705 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,159 isn't gonna be brandished if the camera's on it. That doesn't mean anything. 706 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,119 What do you do? Why do you look like he's looking at me like 707 00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:25,119 you're looking at him, like do something I want. No, I just 708 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:30,239 thought you were gonna support it. Yeah, no, I'm looking for support. 709 00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:34,159 No, I don't say. Guys, bro, I guess the way 710 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,559 that guy talked to you. I bet you everybody listening didn't like any of 711 00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:40,519 it. Right. That doesn't help you sell your cause, does it. 712 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,360 I that's not the way he's talked to you. No, it doesn't. 713 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,760 You're right, And if the roles were reversed, yes, there probably would 714 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:55,920 be an issue saying that I'm saying the same way he talked to you. 715 00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:59,840 I get it. I get it, and not knowing I get it. 716 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,679 But the other side is there's a whole group of people who came to this 717 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:08,280 country not by any choice of their own. My people came to get out 718 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,719 mine too, all of them. What go ahead? I just think, 719 00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:17,679 yes, that it's an excuse to be a fucking asshole. Okay, I'm 720 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,920 sorry, it's it's just say that I'm not an excused. Well, I 721 00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:27,960 think that some people I'm not gonna see all. I shouldn't think that again. 722 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,239 We could say that about anything, and you can look at Karen's and 723 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:35,039 say the same thing. Right, we see the shut up their phones. 724 00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:38,599 I just watched on Twitter. I was so upset the other day on Twitter. 725 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:45,239 I saw a fight. I saw I forget some other person harassed. 726 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,840 I saw this woman yelling at a Chinese woman and the woman who had parked 727 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,880 the car. White woman was over the line a little bit, and the 728 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,559 woman said I can't get out or something she's and she starts screaming, go 729 00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:00,639 back to your country. We hate you. Like it's all called on camera. 730 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,639 I don't know if this stuff is real, if it stays to try 731 00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:08,159 to get read happens. Yes, So my point is on all sides, 732 00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:13,079 it's bad sometimes, you know, I think you're the best thing to do 733 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,440 is to just be kind. But I ran into the guy again. Okay, 734 00:49:15,639 --> 00:49:19,400 he was doing they do. What they do without error, is to 735 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,679 get is He has like a kind of like a food bank. So they 736 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,079 set it up in different places. Okay, So they happen to set it 737 00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:28,719 up right in front of the on the street, right in front of the 738 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,079 liquor store. He didn't know I worked at the liquor store. I got 739 00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:35,119 out of the car. All of a sudden, I'm standing there and I'm 740 00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:38,239 looking. I'm going, holy shit, that's him. Okay. So I 741 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:43,159 walked out there, shook his hand. I go, hey, you do 742 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,079 alone? He goes, yeah, I go, he shake my shake my 743 00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:49,960 hands. Not dirty right now? Huh? And he goes looks at me, 744 00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:53,880 and I go, explain to me what I did wrong and what did 745 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,960 he say? I disrespected him? But he doesn't remember why I disrespected him. 746 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,960 He like, to him, that meant nothing to me. That's been 747 00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:05,920 with that's been on me for two years. You know what I mean to 748 00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:08,880 him? I was just another day whatever, you know. So I said 749 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,320 to him, I said, I go, um old man Nick, the 750 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,280 owner, owner of the whole building, was sitting in there with me. 751 00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:17,400 I said, you might to come in and discuss it when you're done here. 752 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,000 He couldn't get out of there fast enough. Okay, all right, 753 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:25,199 look, I don't know. I can't answer any of these questions for you. 754 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,760 I have no idea. I just tell you. I'm just telling you 755 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,480 what I know. But I would say that you're basically saying this guy's a 756 00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:37,719 troublemaker in your opinion. Hold on, yes and no, Okay, Like 757 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,239 I said, he's very very educated. Yes, he's gone through school. 758 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,920 He's very smart. Okay, he has his own No, but I think 759 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,639 he's trying to be I think he's trying to be um a vigilante. Do 760 00:50:50,679 --> 00:50:52,719 you think he's trying to Okay, And I think some people see him as 761 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,679 trying to lift people who don't have a voice up right, And I think 762 00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,800 he's sticking out for his people. Yeah, okay, I am nothing wrong 763 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,400 with that, right, But don't come in, don't come at me. 764 00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:06,440 I had nothing to do with that, all right. I went up the 765 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,199 street. He knew that it wasn't city, it wasn't so so hang on 766 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:14,840 a second. So what you're saying is what you experienced is what the black 767 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,800 man experienced in the nineteen fifties just for the shade of their skin. That's 768 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,360 exactly what it is, if you think about it. Just so, I'm 769 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,920 not saying it's right, and I'm not saying it wrong. I'm not. 770 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,599 All I'm saying is you're basically going, I didn't do anything, and you're 771 00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:32,400 yelling at me because I'm white and I didn't know what you don't tell your 772 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:37,719 people. My point is I'm not saying that that should be. We should 773 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,679 find a way to eliminate all that eradicate all that. Right, But for 774 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,400 many, many years, it was told you're black, get out of my 775 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:50,400 neighborhood. But that's not his neighborhood. It's my neighborhood. Okay, I'm 776 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,280 saying, if you went back in history, right, that's what that is. 777 00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:57,519 So now this is somebody who probably grew up here in story after story 778 00:51:57,519 --> 00:52:01,079 about being put down or being here or being anything. Come on, So 779 00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:06,079 it doesn't make it right, No, but you kind of you, but 780 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,679 you also obsessed on this for two years. And in that moment that guy, 781 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,320 it's done. It's done for at because and because you don't you don't 782 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,480 want to be considered racist. No I don't, and you're not not. 783 00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:19,719 But but he but you know, I mean, I, like I said, 784 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,719 I was down on Clinton Avenue for three years. Yes, I don't 785 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,360 have racist So I met some of the greatest people and some of the people 786 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,719 we all you know what I mean, it's the greatest p People are people. 787 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,280 People are people, like what what a good person is a good person? 788 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,199 A fucking asshole is a fucking asshole. I'll show you about seven white 789 00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:40,960 guys that I hate him. I hate right here, there's two I actually 790 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,119 hate white people. So it's like you get something in common. Yeah, 791 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,760 right, that offends me. I don't think. I don't even think that 792 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,480 guy hates white people. I'd like to get him on you. I haven't 793 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,840 discussion. I want to message him. Yeah, do you wan him to 794 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,960 come in? And you why I'm on the phone. Either one, bring 795 00:52:55,039 --> 00:52:59,800 him in, either one. I have no problem. I think that this 796 00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:05,320 is the stuff that when when there is the one part that bothers me with 797 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,960 a lot of things is we need to have a discussion. Okay, And 798 00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:13,079 I think you can do the discussion with him. I really did. Let's 799 00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:15,760 have a discussion. Let's have a discussion. Agree, and but you have 800 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,440 to when you do that, you've got to try to keep emotions out of 801 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,320 it, which are hard because most of our stuff comes from feelings, the 802 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,519 way we were treated, the memories we have, those things all paint our 803 00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:32,880 perception in life does so I don't know what experienced this person has, and 804 00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:37,280 like I've said, because it's all I know is this skin, and all 805 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:43,079 I know is that it's been okay. But there's a weird rest easy, 806 00:53:43,159 --> 00:53:45,719 there's a weird respect I have for this guy, which is really weird. 807 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,039 Okay, but it's not. But I respect this guy and he's trying and 808 00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:52,559 he's trying to lift her, he's trying to do something. Right. You 809 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:57,480 contradict yourself. I don't contradict myself. Ye see, I know you don't. 810 00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:00,280 What I'm saying is I like to I would like instead of him coming 811 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,280 at me and blaming me forever you know what, he wasn't blaming you for 812 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,360 everything that's you take this on, you turn it you, you show ten 813 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,199 people that video. Nine are gonna agree with me? Well, I'm not 814 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,039 not, no, no, no, I'm saying I'm saying that he the 815 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:19,480 way about it is wrong. I'm just saying, from his perspective, whatever 816 00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:23,079 was going on, parade roots, whatever, he felt like, you were 817 00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:29,039 interrupting something that was important to people, and as a white guy, you 818 00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:31,920 weren't respecting it and you didn't know what it was when he asked you. 819 00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:36,079 Right, I'm not mocking you. I'm just saying, so now take that 820 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,199 from whatever perspective he has and there you go. Okay, and that's how 821 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,079 he sees you dirty? What moment, don't you see? I mean maybe 822 00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:46,960 I'm wrong, Mark. In a moment, people can have a million things. 823 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,039 We'll go around in a circle on this, but I'd like to talk 824 00:54:50,039 --> 00:54:53,719 to him. We have to do the mystery guest and Kevin guest. But 825 00:54:53,800 --> 00:55:00,199 don't be mad at me. 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Can be sure to 860 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,880 like and subscribe tibilified wherever you get Your podcast had a muted because I knew 861 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,639 you assholes or talk all over that. I had to wait because I see 862 00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:30,199 Danny waving and gesticulating. I just wanted to end. The end was funny 863 00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:32,159 to me. Yeah, by the way, yeah it was Roberto Duran. 864 00:57:32,199 --> 00:57:36,920 You were the one who said, I don't just talking about what he agreed 865 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:37,760 with me? I think I did? Yeah, we all, yeah, 866 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,280 I am was that what it was? I should have said something, so 867 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,960 he's right, does he something say something? Our mystery guests has been holding 868 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,519 patiently and I think they're on a time crunch. Is that correct? They 869 00:57:47,559 --> 00:57:52,320 might be on an So is this someone I worked with in the in the 870 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,800 past, Yes, okay, would be from someone when around an arrow where 871 00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,079 Mark Hillman and I may have worked with him? Yes, yeah, uh 872 00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:04,320 it was it somebody who's on air? Yes, somebody who's on air? 873 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,039 And was he on the same station? Yes, so he was on CMF 874 00:58:10,639 --> 00:58:16,960 All right, go ahead, well boy already? Yeah, how about Dino's 875 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:23,039 not it's not um so somebody Crones? It's not Crones? Is it Tommy 876 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:30,840 Mark French? Mark Frenchise? Not Mark French? Clue his former partner was 877 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,360 a mystery guest his former is it? Is it? Bj? BJ? 878 00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:39,719 Wait? BJ? Got b got out the shit? BJ? How are 879 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:44,039 you? Man? Hey, Billy, what's up, buddy? I can't 880 00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:47,599 believe it. It's so funny. I just saw BJ online as a guest 881 00:58:47,639 --> 00:58:52,719 on somebody else's podcast. Oh that's right. Yeah, I'll go anywhere, 882 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:58,400 Billy. I can't get enough attention, you know that, So listen. 883 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,880 I it's so funny because I was thinking of people and I want to do 884 00:59:01,159 --> 00:59:07,360 another podcast called Radio Days, and it would just be about the weird shit 885 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:13,800 you experienced while in radio. And I know I know you've done I know 886 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,760 you've experienced a lot. I mean I'm talking like whatever went on with management 887 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:22,079 stuff or I mean BJ did everything. BJ sat in a bowl of Lucky 888 00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:24,639 charms on Saint Patrick's Day. They filled up. He and Bull filled up. 889 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,719 He did right too. Yeah, oh yeah, oh gosh, no 890 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,840 he didn't eat. He did high highlight of my career. Really, I 891 00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:44,239 there was nowhere to go but John after But Baj, I mean I was 892 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:51,559 always so impressed because uh BJ came was they were building a bench because of 893 00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:53,639 Wee's and all this. They bring him back and he was one of the 894 00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:58,840 most popular personalities in Rochester on the radio. People loved him with on the 895 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,920 WII show. Was really probably one of weez is better people on his show. 896 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,880 Uh. Then all of a sudden, well it's all true. And 897 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,639 then you went out to Seattle and you wound up doing a midday talk show, 898 01:00:10,239 --> 01:00:13,719 and I think there was there was some ship that went on there. 899 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,880 If I'm not mistaken, Well, you know, Billy model employee. So 900 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,480 you know, I can't really take a job without actually having management trying to 901 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:30,000 see it. Perhaps I would be better outside of the building. Yeah, 902 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,480 but see, but here's the thing. For the last how many years have 903 01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:35,599 you been a is a ks w am? I getting them right now away? 904 01:00:35,719 --> 01:00:38,280 Yeah, I spend two thousand and six, whatever the math is on 905 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:43,800 that. Yeah. And number one, I mean for a long time it 906 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,159 was you or Bob Rivers number one sometimes in people, which is really the 907 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,360 money demographic and radio. So I'm in any what is Seattle the thirteenth largest 908 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:57,440 market in radio? Yeah, we're We're somewhere in that vicinity. I'll say 909 01:00:57,519 --> 01:01:00,440 number I'll say we're the number one market. The hell with you, Yorky? 910 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:07,840 All right? Uh? Why not? You go? Oh, yeah, 911 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,800 Well, it's because it's because of our mascot. Everybody just loves Booie. 912 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,840 Actually, I don't think anybody loves Booye even what we do around here, 913 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,480 but the whole league seems to hate the guy. The dude from Spitting 914 01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:22,360 Chicklets can't stand Booye AND's got a big rivalry with him. So I think 915 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,880 that's kind of fun. Um. But yeah, you know you know what, 916 01:01:27,039 --> 01:01:30,320 Billy, Look, I I've been you and I both know when you 917 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:34,639 get to work with somebody who's you know, who's who's the quality of talented 918 01:01:34,679 --> 01:01:37,519 Weeze is one of the best the industry's ever seen. You know, just 919 01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:40,079 through osomosis, you get lucky enough to learn a few things that maybe you 920 01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:45,199 give him somehow be successful somewhere. And for me that's just in the case. 921 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,719 Plus I got a lot of great people around me. Now that's why 922 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,800 I've been able to, you know, keep the job for since two thousand 923 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,280 and six. But prior to that, Yeah, I was my own worst 924 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,119 enemy. And like you said, Billy, plenty of great stories. There'll 925 01:01:57,119 --> 01:02:00,599 be a lot of great stories about really how I how I babymade radio interesting 926 01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:04,800 for other people, the other poor bastors that had to work with me. 927 01:02:05,079 --> 01:02:08,519 Well, yeah, you you've I think you. I don't want to say 928 01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:12,960 you've changed. I'd like to think people evolve. Would that be fair to 929 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,199 say? Yeah? The best example I'll give you don't. Did you guys 930 01:02:16,239 --> 01:02:20,519 ever know Mark Marin? Did you ever interact with him before he got all 931 01:02:20,599 --> 01:02:23,480 mentally healthy, like when he would come in town and do interview. No, 932 01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:27,679 I do know who he is, but I didn't know. So so 933 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,400 Marcus got this fantastic podcast, and really any reason being is is that he 934 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:36,719 went and started doing all this mental health work he came on my show one 935 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,599 time, and he and I were both just brothers and misery. Everybody who 936 01:02:40,719 --> 01:02:45,159 was with him from the comedy club hated him. Everybody who was working with 937 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,679 me hated me, but we both loved each other complaining about why the world 938 01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:52,960 sucks so bad. And that was before he got his podcast, and then 939 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:58,320 and then Mark is, uh, you know whatever. Ten fifty years later, 940 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,400 Mark is going to be our show and Markley the first thing he says 941 01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:04,400 it gets on the show, he goes, oh boy, buddy, He 942 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,360 said. I looked down the list of all the shows that I was gonna 943 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:07,599 be on and I saw your name, And he said, I wonder, 944 01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:12,159 has this guy figured it out? Or is he still a mess like I 945 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,679 was? And that and we both had a good laugh about how we really 946 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,960 had a lot of issues and luckily he found his way. Luckily I think 947 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,000 I found my way, you know, to some degree, defending on who 948 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:27,519 you're talking to, but yeah, well, if evolving is good, I 949 01:03:27,719 --> 01:03:30,559 just think I realized that, you know what, if I can just be 950 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:35,679 like responsible for everything in my own life, I'm going to have a better 951 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,800 life rather than keep thinking that it's other people keeping me from whatever. That's 952 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,960 the key. Nothing happens to you. Everything is brought. You brought it 953 01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:46,920 on yourself in some way. Can you go, baby? Literally everything bill, 954 01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:51,280 Yeah, the book bill, that's it right there, but it is 955 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,599 literally everything is that. But what I was going to say, BJ, 956 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:58,559 is I remember seeing you and you would be uh you. You were a 957 01:03:58,639 --> 01:04:02,400 big fan of like is Tom likes and you had that that kind of style 958 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,679 too, and you would go at things pretty hard. One of the things 959 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:11,400 that I absolutely think that you I want to say, and I know you're 960 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,320 going to be very humble about this, but it was the BJ Shay experience. 961 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:16,760 Correct. Wasn't that the name of the show? Yeah? And that 962 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,800 was the name of the show. Yeah. And then you had a great 963 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:27,159 producer and Steve miss oh yeah. And then one day you said you're doing 964 01:04:27,239 --> 01:04:30,039 as much work as me or you're doing whatever, and you now call the 965 01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:34,280 show BJ and Micks. And there's not many guys that would do that because 966 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,119 radio. I mean, come on, man, we all have to we 967 01:04:38,239 --> 01:04:40,559 gotta be honest. You sit behind a microphone, you gotta have a fucking 968 01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:43,480 ego, right, You stand on the stage and think you can make a 969 01:04:43,519 --> 01:04:46,320 bunch of strangers laugh, you're a little fucked up. And but to be 970 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,960 able to see, but to step back and see the value in somebody else, 971 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,519 that change that made me think, the world are you? When I 972 01:04:55,559 --> 01:04:59,239 saw that, truly, well, thank you, Thank you, Billy. 973 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,159 I know, and I will take I will take that. I know that 974 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,320 a lot of people have been very surprised by that. And here's the thing. 975 01:05:05,679 --> 01:05:09,039 I was a number two guy, number three guy, number four guy 976 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,519 so much in my career, so I knew what it was like to be 977 01:05:11,519 --> 01:05:13,679 a sidekick. I knew what it was like to not get bonuses. I 978 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,760 knew it was like to see everybody celebrate with the champagne classes and then like, 979 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,639 you know, I'm still making minimum wage even though I'm on a number 980 01:05:18,679 --> 01:05:23,079 one show. So I always thought if I ever got in a driver's seat 981 01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:28,079 in a position to really reward somebody the best way that I could. And 982 01:05:28,239 --> 01:05:31,880 Steve makes our whole show. He does everything I really am. Honestly, 983 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,519 I think if they took a look at the like the amount of output of 984 01:05:34,599 --> 01:05:38,360 work that's done by me compared to Steve, I think they would be like, 985 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,599 what are you doing here? Why? Boy? I mean so to 986 01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,679 me, Billy he's so deserved it. And by the way, he never 987 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,079 asked for that. Yeah, and I just wanted to change He just wanted 988 01:05:48,119 --> 01:05:50,800 to change his name to makes because he hated being called see the producer, 989 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,960 because he got no respect from a lot of people. They never realized what 990 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,880 he did. And I said, dude, if you want respect, the 991 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,000 only way to get respect is your name is going to be on the show. 992 01:06:00,119 --> 01:06:00,920 Do you know what? I make people understand no matter how much you 993 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:02,800 tell them, how much you do, they go, oh, yeah, 994 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,719 you're just a producer. But if your name is on the Marquis. Yeah, 995 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,320 So I said, we'll put your name on the Marquise. That's what 996 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,599 you want is respect? The only way to get us to do that. 997 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,920 And I remember the program it was really we have a great program director. 998 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:15,760 But I remember I told him I wanted to do that and he goes, 999 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,280 what do you what? And that was like he did. That was like 1000 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:24,119 the first maybe five minutes of the conversation. He hangs up the phone. 1001 01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:26,519 Next thing you know, he closed a back A half hour later. He's 1002 01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:29,719 got T shirt designs, he's got all these ideas. He's liked. Ever, 1003 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,639 let's just go ahead and do it, and you know, in credit 1004 01:06:31,679 --> 01:06:36,559 to the PD for understanding how great it was to be able to recognize and 1005 01:06:36,639 --> 01:06:41,039 a lot of our listeners love Steve, so to them, they were like, 1006 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,800 it's about time, And it really was like a lot of people had 1007 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,559 the kind of response you did, Bill and well deserves. Steve is one 1008 01:06:49,559 --> 01:06:54,159 of the best talents in the business, and I'm happy that he now gets 1009 01:06:54,239 --> 01:06:58,440 the proper respect that he's due. But mej what was the change with you 1010 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:02,719 a little bit? Because to be like I remember I remember by I know, 1011 01:07:05,679 --> 01:07:11,920 well, it wasn't really therapy because you used to go listen, man, 1012 01:07:12,159 --> 01:07:15,159 here's what I love about Beach now right, And I knew Beach more 1013 01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:19,239 in a I think I got to know BJ better when he was in Seattle 1014 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:24,599 than I did when he was even here. But BJ had Does your daughter 1015 01:07:24,679 --> 01:07:27,559 still work? I know your daughter just got married, congratulations, I saw 1016 01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:30,800 that. Thank you. I do follow you on social media? And then 1017 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,960 your son? Does she and your son work on the show? They both 1018 01:07:34,039 --> 01:07:38,519 do. Joey's more behind the scenes. But any time that he's given the 1019 01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:41,800 opportunity to talk about what a what a horrible parent, I was love to 1020 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,280 come on the microphone right, and yeah, so they're both on. Yeah, 1021 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:46,320 but I think that's pretty cool. But I go back, man, 1022 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,679 I remember seeing BJ fucking raising hell at Morning Show boot camp. Yeah, 1023 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:57,079 they had Remember they had a women's paddle. What were you? Yeah, 1024 01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:00,119 what was the whole thing? Do you remember what was that about? Well, 1025 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,480 you know, there was many women. There were many women's panels, 1026 01:08:03,519 --> 01:08:08,719 and many panels where I lost I lost my mind, Billy, So you'll 1027 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:12,400 have to be a little bit more. I just remember one word, like 1028 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,359 I think they came out. I think I heard a broad beaches at it 1029 01:08:15,399 --> 01:08:21,800 again. Yeah, they're talking about how it's the struggle being a woman in 1030 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,800 broadcasting. And you got up there and said, have you ever hung up? 1031 01:08:26,119 --> 01:08:29,600 Have you ever hung up upside down in the soccer net with your balls 1032 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,279 hanging out and getting kicked by a soccer ball in the nuts? No, 1033 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,359 don't tell me how it's so hard to be a woman in broadcasting or something 1034 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,760 like that. I don't remember. Yeah, it was I was having been 1035 01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:42,479 basically humiliated in so many different ways, you know, as a as a 1036 01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,399 producer or the stunt guy or whatever, as the way we work up. 1037 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,359 I mean, that's just not something they did to women a lot back then 1038 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,359 because they you just didn't do it. And so I had a big chip 1039 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,159 on my shoulder hearing about, Oh, you don't know how tough it is, 1040 01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:58,920 and actually, you know, upon further review, it is really tough 1041 01:08:59,039 --> 01:09:01,359 to be a non white person trying to be anything in the world. But 1042 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,439 at the time, I was too busy in my own world thinking, oh, 1043 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,840 you know what, my life is tough. I don't care about anybody 1044 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,279 else's life, so that you know. So uh so, yeah, I 1045 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,600 was on a rant about that um at that point. And again that was 1046 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,359 pre therapy, where I was pretty much very narcissistic and the world was all 1047 01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:23,239 about me. Pain was all about me. Everybody was out to get me. 1048 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,800 So you wouldn't been able to reason with me in that state of mind, 1049 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,600 ever, which is why Weez would always just go Jesus. I mean 1050 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:35,359 he would always go, Pj's on the rag. Again, that shouldn't even 1051 01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:40,439 do it. He wasn't wrong, he was not wrong at all. But 1052 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:45,079 now it's funny because now with your your daughter in the business, and and 1053 01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:48,000 you're right it is. I think it's an evolved thinking and I don't like 1054 01:09:48,199 --> 01:09:51,399 in our world today is that we'll go back to that time and if you 1055 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,560 put out a tweet, we'll you know, pull it up from rub it 1056 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:59,880 in your face. And what why would we do that if all we want 1057 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,239 is the end result of who you are today? Right? Do you see 1058 01:10:02,279 --> 01:10:05,479 what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, Billy, Here's the thing. 1059 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,680 What I found is that And I'll just speak for myself. I am a 1060 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:15,680 sis gendered, heterosexual, Caucasian old dude, and the world does not have 1061 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:20,199 a shortage of opinions from that demographic. So people just don't want to hear 1062 01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:25,560 from us anymore. And it's because that's all they've ever heard. And it's 1063 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:29,279 so even even if I have the cure for cancer, it's like they're not 1064 01:10:29,359 --> 01:10:31,600 going to want to hear it from me because they're just so jaded. And 1065 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,840 I can't really blame them because I have been to so many panels myself when 1066 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:41,079 I was a young dude, so many old white guys just telling me how 1067 01:10:41,159 --> 01:10:44,560 to do a business, when it's like, you are so clueless, No, 1068 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:45,840 you don't even know what you're talking. They won't even listen, they 1069 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,680 don't even know how just clueless they are. So I can understand now that 1070 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:55,039 I look like those people, am I It's hard to you know, it's 1071 01:10:55,079 --> 01:10:58,159 really hard to hear anything that I have to say. So now what I 1072 01:10:58,279 --> 01:11:01,800 do is I go find somebody. I go find somebody who has looks like 1073 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,720 a person that other people listen to. I wish from the area and go, 1074 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,279 hey, guys saying this, this might work. And then they go 1075 01:11:08,359 --> 01:11:13,479 out and say it and they look like, yeah. But what I'm saying 1076 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,640 bj is in the world we live in today, someone could go back in 1077 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:21,079 time right and find a tweet you may have put out that may be considered 1078 01:11:21,119 --> 01:11:26,760 as misogynistic or something. And what I'm saying is, even though we've evolved 1079 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,680 and changed, and that's the end result of what most people want it just 1080 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,199 to show you the error of your ways and how maybe you should evolved now 1081 01:11:34,279 --> 01:11:36,520 that you have. But we go back and dig it up and rub your 1082 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,920 nose in it and try to push you out and go, well, this 1083 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,600 guy should reize what are we doing here? Why? Well, yes, 1084 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,840 weaponize. Yeah, you know, Billy, that is and that is like 1085 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,279 the first rule of therapy. And look, if you asked, I have 1086 01:11:48,319 --> 01:11:51,720 been I've been in therapy for tons of years. I am heavily in therapy 1087 01:11:53,359 --> 01:11:56,800 because I'm just my mind is the same and if I don't k if I 1088 01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,840 don't figure out what's going on, I'm miserable to be around, and I'm 1089 01:12:00,039 --> 01:12:02,359 miserable to be me. So the first rule therapy is is that, yeah, 1090 01:12:03,199 --> 01:12:06,119 people are going to do that. People are always going to see you 1091 01:12:06,279 --> 01:12:10,840 how they see you. So if their experience with you is that you are 1092 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,920 a bad guy, they're not going to be able to get out of the 1093 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,399 way. It would really be great if people could go, oh wait, 1094 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,760 you realized that wasn't cool back then and you've changed the next nice But humans 1095 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,800 don't do that, and especially today, forget it. I mean, people 1096 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:28,760 cannot even see other points of view no matter what. And the trouble is 1097 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,399 is that all I know is if I don't continue to still be an example 1098 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,600 of the dude that I want to be, and I go out and maybe 1099 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:39,119 you know, get mad or whatever, then I just give them more ammunition 1100 01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:41,640 to say that I'm going to do that. They see me as Here's what 1101 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,279 I found, Billy, which is really cool. So say that tweet is 1102 01:12:44,279 --> 01:12:45,119 out there, I mean, go, yeah, you know what, dude, 1103 01:12:45,359 --> 01:12:47,279 I mean, here's the great thing I get to say, I go, 1104 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:53,479 dude, that was pree therapy. And it's like and I say, 1105 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,800 look, there's no excuse for that. That's why I had to go get 1106 01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,680 help. Now, if they want to demonize me and villainize me and whatever, 1107 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,760 it's like, I just go, all right, well, I get 1108 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,680 it, I get you really upset it. I'm not going to try to 1109 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,880 defend that because that was horrible and that's why I went to therapy. That's 1110 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,199 all I can say. And then if they still want to, you know, 1111 01:13:10,319 --> 01:13:13,319 cancel me, do whatever. All right, But at some point there 1112 01:13:13,359 --> 01:13:15,680 are going to be people going, you know what, the only guy is 1113 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:20,680 talking bad into conversation is that guy? Yes? And so, But it 1114 01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,319 takes a lot of patience, Billy, because you and I are in an 1115 01:13:24,359 --> 01:13:30,199 industry where everything we do is just under a Microsoft. Well hang on, 1116 01:13:30,359 --> 01:13:32,600 to be misjudged, hang on, I'm in the independent lane. These days. 1117 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,319 You're still you know, you're still on the air, and you're still 1118 01:13:35,399 --> 01:13:40,039 have corporate powers and things like that, which is I'm not saying it is 1119 01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:43,600 bad at all. I'm just saying it's different. Now I've got to go 1120 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,399 out and do a whole lot more work to make it all work, but 1121 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,319 it's something that at the end of the day, you own it. And 1122 01:13:49,399 --> 01:13:54,079 it's a it's a different it's a different game, and yet it's kind of 1123 01:13:54,119 --> 01:13:56,600 the same. And uh, and are you loving that? Is that? 1124 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,800 Are you loving that? Is that? Cool? I am? I really, 1125 01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:01,279 I'm so happy. I'm so happy to you. You're you're You're a 1126 01:14:01,359 --> 01:14:03,960 great dude, man, And I am so happy you have found the lane 1127 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:08,159 that you're happy to drive. It is and and it's been a lot of 1128 01:14:08,199 --> 01:14:10,319 fun. And I've been able to hear from a lot of people but that 1129 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,920 it's funny because I always thought would bj. I never got the misery from 1130 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,000 you, Like I never saw you as a miserable person. I know how 1131 01:14:18,079 --> 01:14:20,640 that happened, Mark, I feel like I never did either. No, 1132 01:14:21,079 --> 01:14:25,119 No, I don't want to see It was always the up Yeah, what's 1133 01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:29,319 up? Guys? You don't want to be kiss upat? Yeah? Up 1134 01:14:29,399 --> 01:14:33,159 beat company is a word you might have used for somebody else. I can't 1135 01:14:33,159 --> 01:14:38,000 even believe I'm talking to you people that's now I am. Yeah. Yeah, 1136 01:14:38,199 --> 01:14:41,079 But I just think like you were to March's point, you were always 1137 01:14:41,159 --> 01:14:44,199 upbeat, and I thought you were very smart. One of my favorite moments 1138 01:14:44,279 --> 01:14:46,560 though. It used to have these staff meetings, right, and there was 1139 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,479 some kind of contest giveaway or something, and there was some kind of there 1140 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,640 was a song I don't even remember what it was put together the clock for 1141 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:59,680 the and like, you know story, you told me this the gospel according 1142 01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,239 to Bill if you're Danny. So there's a story where like you guys are 1143 01:15:01,279 --> 01:15:04,600 sitting there over here, and they talked about how to build a song, 1144 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,520 build songs into the clock, and then you said, well, what if 1145 01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,680 we run out of time in the hour, We'll then just drop the song. 1146 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,680 And you're like, well, wait a minute, we got this huge 1147 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,239 build up. We're just gonna drop the song if there's no time. That 1148 01:15:15,359 --> 01:15:17,439 was what it was. That was what it was. Beach DJ was always 1149 01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,680 like and then I think I think it was old Man Morgan at the time, 1150 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:26,279 and he freaking flipped out. He's like yelled or whatever. I would 1151 01:15:26,279 --> 01:15:29,520 God, it was great, Yeah, And I remember thinking, but I 1152 01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,880 used to love it because Beach would just go and go. It was awesome 1153 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,840 because then I knew I could check out of the meeting. Everybody wanted the 1154 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:43,560 meeting over that everybody really uh when I know, and that was always the 1155 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,359 problem. People used to get so mad at me, and they'd be like, 1156 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:46,159 look, dude, if you would shut up, the streeting would have 1157 01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:51,000 been over about three hours. So here here's what happened in Seattle, and 1158 01:15:51,079 --> 01:15:56,399 I love this about a good program director. The same thing happened when I 1159 01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:00,359 first got the job and worked at KISW. They let me come to one 1160 01:16:00,399 --> 01:16:04,399 meeting. The PD saw what I was at meetings and immediately said, you 1161 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:08,119 will never have to go to another meeting again. He was just like, 1162 01:16:08,399 --> 01:16:11,600 this is not your place. He's like, you don't like to see things 1163 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,439 being built, You don't like to see ideas when people don't exactly know what 1164 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:15,600 they're talking about. He goes, you hate that you'd come to me when 1165 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,359 you're done. Don't come to me when you had half an idea. So 1166 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,920 Billy, this went on for like three years. He wouldn't let me go 1167 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,640 to any meetings, and all of a sudden, the boss comes to me 1168 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,960 and says, look, I need you to be at this meeting, and 1169 01:16:27,119 --> 01:16:28,560 I go, wait, meet, you need me to be the meeting. 1170 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,399 I don't go to meetings to go, Yeah, you got to go to 1171 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:31,399 this one. And I go and I listen. I'm I pleaded with him 1172 01:16:31,399 --> 01:16:34,479 because I've already been in therapy. I said, dude, I really am 1173 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,680 in therapy. Now I'm trying to be a good guy. You know how 1174 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,079 I'm at meetings. He goes, oh, no, I want you at 1175 01:16:40,119 --> 01:16:43,720 this meeting. So we're at this meeting and it's about social networking. And 1176 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,880 at the time, nobody in our company was doing social networking. I was 1177 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,640 doing my own. So I had this expert who wanted me. I guess 1178 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:53,840 this expert wanted me at the meeting telling me what I needed to do with 1179 01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,600 my own Twitter, my own Twitter stuff and my own Facebook stuff. This 1180 01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,359 is my stuff, it's not even the company stuff. And there telling me 1181 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,800 what to do. And I'm looking at my PD, and this look on 1182 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:08,520 his face of glee comes on because he sees that I don't take it anymore. 1183 01:17:09,279 --> 01:17:14,680 And and oh dude, it was a beating because I just told this 1184 01:17:15,079 --> 01:17:17,560 this person was like the corporate person in charge of whatever the hell I went 1185 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,680 out in my mind and it was not good. I went I pulled my 1186 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,119 PD aside and I go, dude, I feel horrible. She was like 1187 01:17:24,199 --> 01:17:26,600 almost in tears. This person. I go, why did you do that, 1188 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:28,960 he said, He said, because I told him you shouldn't be at 1189 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,760 meetings, and she insisted that you'd be at that meeting. She wouldn't take 1190 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:34,159 she wouldn't listen to me, and I had this. I had to teach 1191 01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:39,239 her a lesson and wow, I go, dude, I just got weaponized. 1192 01:17:39,239 --> 01:17:42,039 I don't know how I feel about it. But you know what, 1193 01:17:42,279 --> 01:17:45,239 that's a great boss, because I always say, and I've said on this 1194 01:17:45,359 --> 01:17:49,359 podcast, a boss's job number one job is to recognize what motivates BJ, 1195 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:54,039 what makes BJ tick, what's gonna get the best out of beach? And 1196 01:17:54,159 --> 01:17:57,520 it wasn't going to meetings. It would frustrate you. You would st and 1197 01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,239 ruminate on whatever was discussed and how pissed off you were that, how dumb 1198 01:18:00,279 --> 01:18:04,479 they were and they didn't even have that that and then you would you know, 1199 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,840 it would come out the next day on the air or whatever, and 1200 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,960 it just becomes a big headache. That's just you're right, that's a really 1201 01:18:11,039 --> 01:18:15,399 smart p D. Is that something you learned from we Uh? Dude? 1202 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,079 You know what, let me tell you something about Weeze. And I mean, 1203 01:18:17,159 --> 01:18:21,840 he'll probably hate me for this. I Wee's bark when it came to 1204 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,880 management, was a lot bigger than his fight. Yeah, I know, 1205 01:18:26,119 --> 01:18:29,920 and I yeah. And that was the thing about Weez is that you know, 1206 01:18:30,039 --> 01:18:31,680 he would tell us stuff. But I think he was a lot he 1207 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,960 was a better employee than I was. Yeah, and so he really was, 1208 01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,920 um I remember. And you know, here's the thing, like, 1209 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,560 like all the success that I've had in Seattle almost didn't happen because the company 1210 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,720 hated me, and frankly I hated them. And then our boss, the 1211 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,479 boss, I just told him. He got there and Howard Stern was leaving 1212 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,880 and they said, we don't know what to do. And I'm doing mid 1213 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,239 days and you know we're having success on mid days. And so the new 1214 01:18:58,319 --> 01:19:00,119 boss said, oh, I have a perfect idea. We should we should 1215 01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:02,279 put DJ on in the mornings. And they were like, what are you 1216 01:19:02,359 --> 01:19:05,600 talking about. He's the guy that screams and yells and he hates everybody and 1217 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,680 he is he's so mad at everybody. And he said, well, that's 1218 01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,600 because you put him on a loser station. You put him on a flanker. 1219 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,399 He said, how you can't ever put a winner on a flanker And 1220 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,159 they said, he's not a winner. And they said, this is why 1221 01:19:17,279 --> 01:19:20,840 you don't have winning stations. I couldn't believe how blunt he was with them. 1222 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:25,680 He said, you hired me because you don't have winning stations, because 1223 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:29,399 you don't have good management. That's why you don't recognize you have a great 1224 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,640 talent in this building. He does. He They don't. They don't scream 1225 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,960 and yell because they're crazy. It's because they want to win and you just 1226 01:19:35,079 --> 01:19:39,680 don't know that because you're a management's horror. And they were like, yeah, 1227 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,840 they were, they it was. And they said to him, they 1228 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,399 said, this will be the biggest mistake of your career if you do this. 1229 01:19:46,079 --> 01:19:48,920 And now he's the vice president of all programming in the company. Because 1230 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,079 they were like, I guess you knew what you were talking about. H 1231 01:19:51,880 --> 01:20:00,039 Richard. It's his last name, Richard, Dad Da Davis. I mean, 1232 01:20:00,119 --> 01:20:03,840 look, all Imola saying, is my experience with Dave the best I've 1233 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,520 ever worked with. And he I mean, oh my god, I have 1234 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:11,399 never seen anybody as brilliant and who who at least with me, got me 1235 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,319 advocated for me, and and and and he put it out there. He 1236 01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,159 just put it out there and said because he knew he knew he was right. 1237 01:20:17,359 --> 01:20:19,159 He wasn't the kind of guy that just would, you know, be 1238 01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:21,439 an idiot just for sake of be an idiot, maybe like me, but 1239 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:26,279 he actually knew he was right and and and he went out there and forcefully 1240 01:20:26,319 --> 01:20:29,800 advocated. And I wouldn't be here if not for him. So that's yeah. 1241 01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,159 Good pds are amazing, man. Good management's amazing. Good management, 1242 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,760 Mark, Mark, what's up? Funny? I didn't realize you were there, 1243 01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:42,920 Mark, what's going on? I do it? Well. My memory 1244 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,840 of you, Mark, as you were like one of the coolest, one 1245 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,680 of the nicest dudes I'd ever worked with. So I'm glad that your memory 1246 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,319 of me is not one of being a dick, because you were such Oh 1247 01:20:49,399 --> 01:20:51,680 you were BG. You were always good to me. Man. I hung 1248 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,720 out with you guys a lot on that show too, when when yeah, 1249 01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,760 yeah, you were You're good dude. We it was it was such fun 1250 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,880 doing radio and those It was like, I mean, I mean, I 1251 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:06,640 mean CMF and Weeze is success at that time in that town where I mean 1252 01:21:08,119 --> 01:21:11,359 it was just I was so so I didn't know at the time because it 1253 01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:15,039 was miserable being me, but I didn't realize just how fortunate I was to 1254 01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,600 work in that that that incredible, just like Juggernaut that was CNF with you 1255 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:25,760 know, with Janet Mary and Uncle Roger and Crohn's and I mean and Kano 1256 01:21:26,119 --> 01:21:29,359 all the great talent that was that was there at the time, and man, 1257 01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:30,800 what a special time, so much fun. Yeah, it was. 1258 01:21:31,399 --> 01:21:34,000 It'll never be like that ever again. I mean no, it's not. 1259 01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:38,560 No, never, very slowly, but surely you know what I'll tell you. 1260 01:21:39,039 --> 01:21:41,520 I tell you ability We have that in Seattle. We have a great 1261 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,239 crew and it feels very much like the old cm in these days. I 1262 01:21:45,319 --> 01:21:46,720 don't know, I don't know how they can do that, but it is 1263 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,560 that way at the station where I'm at, you know, just like CMF. 1264 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:54,000 You know, k I have somebody used a rock station forever to celebrate 1265 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,600 our fiftieth's not too long ago and music and Seattle, I mean, the 1266 01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,760 town's a great music town, which is why we're able to lorish. They 1267 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,920 love rock music here. They they've never abandoned it even you know, and 1268 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:08,359 they continue with guys like Aaron Jones, they continue to put out great original 1269 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,640 rock music here. Wow, what do you say, BJ, I'm reading 1270 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,199 you at boot Camp two thousand and nine, and one of the best lessons, 1271 01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:15,880 one of the best lessons I ever got, was you saying you're always 1272 01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,199 on interview. And it's still true. It's even more so true now today 1273 01:22:19,239 --> 01:22:23,399 with everybody with a smartphone in their pocket. You know, you are always 1274 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:28,239 on interview. It's it's so true. I say. That's why when people 1275 01:22:28,279 --> 01:22:30,439 in our business get up on panels and managers and they the most boring things 1276 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,279 in the world telling us how to be entertaining, I sit there and I 1277 01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:36,039 go, I go, do you realize how stupid you look right now? 1278 01:22:36,359 --> 01:22:40,800 It's just it's it's like, look, even when I'm talking to you guys, 1279 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,720 I want to try to be entertaining, you know. I mean, 1280 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,880 I know you have an audience or whatever. I mean, that's that's what 1281 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,319 I do. I'm an entertainer. So I don't understand how people don't get 1282 01:22:47,359 --> 01:22:50,439 that. As soon as that microphone is on, it's like, dude, 1283 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:54,560 bring it, don't be an idiot, bring it the best. You can 1284 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,000 have fun and be authentic list and you can, but but bring it. 1285 01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:01,039 And so many people just go I will do that, like all right, 1286 01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:03,279 well, and why am I listening to you, why are you here? 1287 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,960 I pay money to see you. I traveled across the country so you could 1288 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,279 sit there and pour the crap out of me. Okay, great, do 1289 01:23:12,319 --> 01:23:15,800 you still go to boot camp? Yeah? Just went last year. I 1290 01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,359 love it. There's so many great young people that want to be in radio 1291 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:24,079 that I am shocked and pleasantly surprised. And also it's not a sausage show 1292 01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:27,720 like it used to be. The amount of young women that love this industry 1293 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,920 and just like they remind me and Billy maybe you remember when we were in 1294 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,680 our twenties where we were like, this is all we want to do. 1295 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,279 I don't care what I have to give up, you know. And to 1296 01:23:36,399 --> 01:23:40,920 see that in the eyes of young people when they try to tell us that 1297 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,079 the business is dead, which sure the business has definitely like got to figure 1298 01:23:45,119 --> 01:23:47,600 it out. But at the same time, these young people are like, 1299 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,920 we want this, we want to be here, and I am like, 1300 01:23:51,119 --> 01:23:55,800 this is fantastic, And you know, it's just time for the old people 1301 01:23:55,840 --> 01:24:00,560 to step aside and let them in, let them be there, cause old 1302 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:01,840 people don't like to do that. It's like I said, people look like 1303 01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,800 me, yeah, oh, we're gonna be we're gonna be relevant forever. 1304 01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:09,439 And it's like, hey, grandpa, seriously, when what are you talking 1305 01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,159 about. You're not going to be relevant forever. Look at the mirror. 1306 01:24:12,239 --> 01:24:15,119 Nobody's gonna listen to you. Just sit there and smile and you know, 1307 01:24:15,199 --> 01:24:18,800 and don't. I always think beads that. I think you're gonna see things 1308 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:24,640 go from these big corporations back down to smaller entities. Not just in radio, 1309 01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,439 I think everywhere. I really do. And I think when you do 1310 01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,920 that, you'll bring back the personality and win because spoken word, like what 1311 01:24:31,079 --> 01:24:35,000 you do in the morning, what we're doing here is what's happening. It's 1312 01:24:35,119 --> 01:24:39,439 it's what's winning because you can play. You can get your music from anywhere, 1313 01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,199 but you can't get your personality from anywhere. You can't and if you 1314 01:24:42,319 --> 01:24:45,000 love DJ, true, yeah, And I mean I think that's gonna be 1315 01:24:45,119 --> 01:24:47,640 that's the one difference. And you can't put artificial intelligence with that, and 1316 01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,920 you can't do any of that stuff. So I think that that's really the 1317 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:56,479 winning edge and for radio to survive, I think on a mass scale the 1318 01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,760 way they are now, some of these companies, I heearten others it's too 1319 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:03,720 b big and so to run it efficiently and leanly and be able to also 1320 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:09,439 dance to the shareholders and things. You've got to make decisions of cutting people, 1321 01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,680 which then cuts exactly what is building the company. And I think what's 1322 01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,960 going to happen is you're going to see people break these companies up. Smaller 1323 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,079 stations are going to come about, and you're gonna go back to almost the 1324 01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:20,960 mom and pops, and you'll have more situations like you're in now, which 1325 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:25,039 I think is great. Well, I'll tell you this, billy. You 1326 01:25:25,119 --> 01:25:28,640 know, not Wall Street is not good for all long, you know, 1327 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,159 and it really isn't the the Wall Street mentality to me, you know, 1328 01:25:32,319 --> 01:25:35,880 you know, I mean shareholders, stockholders, I mean they're all asholders if 1329 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,479 you ask me, because it is they cannot see the damage that they are 1330 01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,760 doing just human beings in general. And at some point, you know, 1331 01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:47,279 this is why young people are going, hey, I would like to try 1332 01:25:47,319 --> 01:25:50,159 a differentism, and a lot of the older folks are going, oh my 1333 01:25:50,319 --> 01:25:54,520 god, these people are so anti American. It's like, dude, do 1334 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,960 you just take a look. I mean I was just a diner and they 1335 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,920 had a little thing that told you, like back in ninety two forty eight, 1336 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,159 when the diner opened, they said, here's how much it cost to 1337 01:26:02,199 --> 01:26:05,039 buy a house. It's like seven thousand dollars. And then here's how much 1338 01:26:05,039 --> 01:26:09,560 the average person made with like twenty five hundred dollars. And I'm like, 1339 01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:13,279 holy crap. I mean, you take a look at those numbers today and 1340 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,960 there's no way you could buy a house for just a little over double your 1341 01:26:16,039 --> 01:26:20,039 salary. Right. And so when anybody wants to say, oh, hey, 1342 01:26:20,119 --> 01:26:23,840 well your hate capitalism, I go, how is this the success you 1343 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:27,279 just you know, you just ask anybody, how is it that nineteen forty 1344 01:26:27,359 --> 01:26:30,239 eight average person could do this? And here it is in twenty twenty three, 1345 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:36,039 a person who's highly educated with a ridiculous amount of college debt can't even 1346 01:26:36,319 --> 01:26:40,960 get this deal on a home. How was that a success story? That 1347 01:26:41,119 --> 01:26:45,039 to me is an abortion of business. And I think has to do everything 1348 01:26:45,079 --> 01:26:47,560 with Wall Street and the shareholders and you know what, like at some point, 1349 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,960 you know, the inmates, you're gonna go, f this, we 1350 01:26:50,039 --> 01:26:54,640 are going to take over the asylum. I think you're starting to see it, 1351 01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,560 and I think you're starting to see it with things as people go these 1352 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:02,159 independent ways and somebody's created drinking game because I use some phrases too much and 1353 01:27:02,199 --> 01:27:05,880 they've added this one. I always say, the barrier to entry is gone. 1354 01:27:06,359 --> 01:27:10,039 Right. Anybody can do this right. You don't. You don't need 1355 01:27:10,079 --> 01:27:13,079 a radio station anymore. You've got you can buy the microp you can buy 1356 01:27:13,119 --> 01:27:15,239 the equipment. It's a lot cheaper than you think. You can find the 1357 01:27:15,359 --> 01:27:18,279 space. And if you do it right, you can win. You can, 1358 01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,399 I mean you gotta love it, yeah, but you can win. 1359 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:27,319 And I think that when you you know to what you're saying, as you're 1360 01:27:27,359 --> 01:27:30,520 going to see changes because people have had enough and they don't need the big 1361 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,960 corporations anymore. They don't need Wall Street to be able to get their message 1362 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,840 out. You know you're looking at I mean guys who are sure there are 1363 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:41,640 podcasters who make millions of dollars, but they didn't start out that way. 1364 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,560 Yeah, you know, Billy, And look all all it takes for a 1365 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,159 person to do anything that they want to do in life that they go, 1366 01:27:48,279 --> 01:27:51,640 okay, I mean, what do I need to live? And the average 1367 01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:56,279 the average American is very reasonable when it comes to like what they need to 1368 01:27:56,359 --> 01:27:59,199 live. They don't want a skillion dollars. No, the average American is 1369 01:27:59,239 --> 01:28:01,640 like, you know, hey, whatever, And that means if you, 1370 01:28:02,159 --> 01:28:04,159 like you said, you're the freedom to do what you want as long as 1371 01:28:04,199 --> 01:28:08,159 you're reasonable with how you want to live in right. And dude, I'm 1372 01:28:08,199 --> 01:28:10,800 so happy that you're doing this because you know what, You've been a great 1373 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,840 dude your whole life, and you know it's just to me, I'm sad 1374 01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,000 you're not in our business. I find I keep saying that's a lot about 1375 01:28:17,039 --> 01:28:20,119 people that are no longer in our business. It saddens me that you know 1376 01:28:20,199 --> 01:28:25,039 they're not in our business anymore for whatever reason. But I'm happy that you're 1377 01:28:25,039 --> 01:28:28,600 still doing it because man, I think you should be. Yeah, and 1378 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:30,279 and and to me, it was like there was nothing else to do, 1379 01:28:30,359 --> 01:28:33,039 and I thought, let's see, and so far, so good, you 1380 01:28:33,159 --> 01:28:36,279 know, and and getting better, which is really yeah, that really is. 1381 01:28:36,359 --> 01:28:39,680 It's very good. I'm so glad you agreed to come on. I'd 1382 01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,680 love to. I'm gonna get your number from Kevin and then uh get you 1383 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,680 on when I do the other one, because i'd love to get some great 1384 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,840 stories from you. And I hope I gave Kevin the Burner phone number because 1385 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:54,319 I really, I'll find you. I know, I got people in Covin. 1386 01:28:54,359 --> 01:28:57,520 I'll find you, man, don't I don't know if I need that, 1387 01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,720 but yeah, Philly, thank you so much. Mark, and I 1388 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,199 didn't. Who's the other que that I love, Dan Barillo? We used 1389 01:29:02,199 --> 01:29:05,600 to call him Christian Dad. Hey, yeah, Hey, d Hey buddy. 1390 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:10,159 Yeah. So guys, thank you so much for having me on it. 1391 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,159 What a great trip back down on memory lane. And you know, 1392 01:29:14,239 --> 01:29:17,560 while I can still remember, that's the thing, you know, I might 1393 01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:24,359 link Campbell out at any moment in my life. I'm afraid of the same 1394 01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,600 thing from time to time. Beach, thank you, Say hi to Miggs. 1395 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,039 All right, take it easy, buddy, see you later. There 1396 01:29:30,119 --> 01:29:39,199 he goes. That was a great one, job, Kevin. Oh, 1397 01:29:39,359 --> 01:29:42,359 I need a drink and iron smoked. The internationally claimed New York State Farm 1398 01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,279 Distillery is right down the road. Yeah, let's go. You know what's 1399 01:29:45,319 --> 01:29:48,039 really cool is everything. Well, here's what I love about what they're doing 1400 01:29:48,079 --> 01:29:53,560 over there. When you hear New York State Farm Distillery and you go, 1401 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:58,039 okay, well what does that mean? Everything that they use to make their 1402 01:29:58,079 --> 01:30:00,199 whiskey, to make their bourbon from here, yeah, from here? Yeah, 1403 01:30:00,319 --> 01:30:04,319 And then they have those big asylums, those big missiles. When you 1404 01:30:04,399 --> 01:30:10,039 pull up, it's not asylums, yes, those two though, well I 1405 01:30:10,199 --> 01:30:13,439 was thinking missile asylum. Yeah. I don't know why I always call them 1406 01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,239 the missiles. Yeah, I think looks like I think Tommy calls them the 1407 01:30:15,279 --> 01:30:20,239 missiles. Yeah, but no, not that Tommy, Tommy Burnett if Burnette 1408 01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:24,479 calls it that. But in there is where they store the grain because they 1409 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,159 always have to have it, and they roast it and they do all these 1410 01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:29,560 things to it, and it's really really cool. If you get a chance, 1411 01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:30,840 if you haven't been over there, you gotta get there. It's one 1412 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:35,000 of the ten best bourbons outside of Kentucky according to Fortune magazine. And there's 1413 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:39,840 always a lot of great live music going on every weekend. And you can 1414 01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:43,960 find out more information if you go to Ironsmoke Distillery dot com. That's Ironsmoke 1415 01:30:44,039 --> 01:30:47,319 Distillery dot com. It's right here at one eleven Pars Avenue in Fairport, 1416 01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,680 New York. Baby, we've vilified a voicemail anytime. I'm a Victor Chrysler 1417 01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:57,239 Dodge jeep ram line at five eight five two o six eighty eight sixty six 1418 01:31:00,239 --> 01:31:05,960 Sunday to the young woman who writes songs for her act. I just broke 1419 01:31:06,079 --> 01:31:13,560 up with my girlfriend. I'm eighty three, she is eighty one. I 1420 01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:21,920 wrote a song because like this. I will miss the fun. I will 1421 01:31:23,119 --> 01:31:30,439 miss your smile. I will miss the clicking of your replacement hip when we 1422 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:40,039 did dogy style. Oh miss your key scenes the glass ship water. I 1423 01:31:40,199 --> 01:31:46,800 am going to miss looking at your hot granddaughter. I miss I love your 1424 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,560 shot, and be sure to like and subscribe to Blified wherever you get your 1425 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:57,319 podcast. Oh is somebody who wrote a love song for the Rex? Oh? 1426 01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:02,000 I think his name is Doug. We did get a text at h 1427 01:32:02,279 --> 01:32:05,199 two O six eighty eight sixty six, fivety five two or six eighty eight 1428 01:32:05,239 --> 01:32:09,760 sixty six. Just listening to Last Night show. But my wife is five 1429 01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:14,239 years older than me, and I am now a grandpa at forty one because 1430 01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:17,680 I saw yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm forty three. Yeah I have 1431 01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:21,279 any kids. She's two now and has been wrapped around her finger. But 1432 01:32:21,399 --> 01:32:26,920 my stepson was twenty seven, which was three years older than I was when 1433 01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,760 I had my first child. So I mean twenty seven, you know, 1434 01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,359 it's not seventeen seventeen r well, I just I just realized that my mother 1435 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:39,279 is was my age now when I went off to college. Yeah, you 1436 01:32:39,359 --> 01:32:41,640 know, like my mother had me at twenty four. Oh man, she 1437 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,640 was a milf. Wasn't see my mom? Would I've sniffed the cushions? 1438 01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:50,199 No? No, no, If you didn't, I was going to No. 1439 01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,960 No, how do you know? How do you know? Because you 1440 01:32:54,359 --> 01:32:58,159 got a good look at your family, your sister. I'm the ugly tuckling 1441 01:32:58,279 --> 01:33:00,760 of my sister's attractive. There we have a good looking fan forgot about your 1442 01:33:01,039 --> 01:33:04,880 My father looked like George Clooney. Yeah, my mother was a good looking 1443 01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:08,439 woman. I don't know if people would find her attractive, but she was 1444 01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:12,279 a good looking woman. Well we go with you just don't want it because 1445 01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:16,520 your mom you know, cood guys, is my mom one of always dropped 1446 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:21,119 your mom jokes? Yes, yes, I know. Because you're very that's 1447 01:33:21,159 --> 01:33:28,079 your that's your defense. You jump right, that's your defense. You Earlier, 1448 01:33:28,119 --> 01:33:30,000 we started to talk about Mayor Evans. He announced that the City of 1449 01:33:30,079 --> 01:33:34,359 Rochester is going to be participating in lawsuit against Hundai and Kia after the recent 1450 01:33:34,399 --> 01:33:39,439 thefts in the city, and somebody did right on Facebook when we were talking 1451 01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:43,640 about stuff earlier, and this show has been all over the play my key 1452 01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,760 was broken into, says Christopher Dickman. I'm just gonna leave that there. 1453 01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:51,840 His last name is Dickman. Okay, there's a lot of Dickman out there. 1454 01:33:53,039 --> 01:33:56,039 See. Now this is where I wouldn't mind my name, Mike d 1455 01:33:56,119 --> 01:34:02,680 Richard Dick Dick Dickman. What a great name. Oh god, it's it's 1456 01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:08,319 it's a lineman, right, a lineman, a lawyer sales. Yes, 1457 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,199 tell him, Dick Dickman said. Or you could be like a private investigator 1458 01:34:12,279 --> 01:34:16,560 high Dick Dickman. Yes, know exactly, Yes, I mean, Dick 1459 01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,520 Dickman's a great name anyway, Christopher dick that should be the name for magnum 1460 01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:24,760 p. I I could see like you know that what's his name? Tom 1461 01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:29,840 Selick playing Dickman mustache? Now you know what this would be more of like 1462 01:34:30,039 --> 01:34:31,640 you gotta go back, you gotta go back into the nineteen fifties or they 1463 01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:38,840 had you know what I mean? Yeah, he oh, send Dick Dickman 1464 01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,199 over, He'll take care of it. You know what I mean? That 1465 01:34:41,359 --> 01:34:45,720 kind of thing. Uh. Christopher Dickman, son of Dick Dickman, says, 1466 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:47,560 my key was broken into, but they didn't take it, took change, 1467 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:51,479 broke the window, broke the console. Cops said, there's nothing they 1468 01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:57,439 can do. Since when do police not investigate break ins burglary? A lot 1469 01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:01,279 of times? Yeah, unfortunately a lot of times because it's the it's minor, 1470 01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:04,159 and it's not I mean, anybody who's had a car broken into. 1471 01:35:04,279 --> 01:35:08,640 I did years ago. I had a radio ripped out of a Volkswagen Jetta 1472 01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,319 that I had. I was very upset. I really want to think, 1473 01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:15,520 like I remember walking out of I think it was on somewhere on Alexander, 1474 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,600 maybe Lloyd's, the old Lloyd's. Oh yeah, and I'll walk out and 1475 01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,560 I can see I go, god, damn it, they broke in the 1476 01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:24,479 garden. It isn't there, And I go, sure enough, they had 1477 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:28,159 popped right around the handle because it was very easy to do on the frames 1478 01:35:28,199 --> 01:35:30,720 of the of the Volkswagon back then. And you should sue Volkwagon. Well, 1479 01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,600 this is this is my point. But to his answer, they usually 1480 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:39,119 don't. I mean, they'll they'll take the police report, you can use 1481 01:35:39,199 --> 01:35:43,159 it for your insurance and things. But especially in the city of Rochester, 1482 01:35:43,279 --> 01:35:45,960 I think they got bigger stuff going on, which sucks because that's the biggest 1483 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,439 thing in your world. Right, it's the biggest thing in Dickman's world. 1484 01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,239 The best thing about having a shit ass car, yeah, is that leave 1485 01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:54,560 it unlocked at night. Yeah? Yeah, I did that with all the 1486 01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,920 time, right, I never stalking it off. Helped yourself to whatever you 1487 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,760 want. I don't give a fuck. They keep leaving them kiss tickets though, 1488 01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:04,399 kiss tickets keep coming in there. So the mayor did say, we 1489 01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,960 do this on behalf of the senior citizen who has her car taken from in 1490 01:36:09,039 --> 01:36:11,319 front of her house, even though she locked all the doors and did the 1491 01:36:11,399 --> 01:36:14,319 things he was supposed to do. I understand. I feel like it's political 1492 01:36:14,359 --> 01:36:18,479 grandstanding. Here's what Steve Circue Granted this is a civil matter, he's a 1493 01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,840 defense attorney, but here's his thoughts. Well, you know that's a great 1494 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:26,439 question. First of all, this is a civil matter, a civil matter. 1495 01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:33,319 They're trying to get money from these car manufacturers, and is exactly what 1496 01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:41,479 he said, He's like, just political posturing by the cities try to frankly 1497 01:36:42,319 --> 01:36:45,680 deflect from some of those terrible policies. I mean, what I don't understand 1498 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,159 is you know, in order to have some sort of breach or negligence, 1499 01:36:49,359 --> 01:36:55,359 there's got to be some sort of duty owed by the manufacturer, the duty 1500 01:36:55,439 --> 01:37:01,680 owed to the petitioner or the planets. You know what duty does Kia and 1501 01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:06,359 the other carmaker have to make sure that under those circumstances, can any of 1502 01:37:06,399 --> 01:37:11,600 their cars have ever be stolen? Right? I mean that that that that 1503 01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:15,680 that seems to be a pretty onerous bird in the place upon a manufacturer. 1504 01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:20,640 And let's say the manufacturer did put all this in right, and then there 1505 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:26,279 there's something happens and they a fire, sells it to a second fire, 1506 01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:31,640 and that a mobilizer doesn't work. Is the citizen fire of the first car 1507 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:36,359 who then sells it secondarily if that first is going to be liable now because 1508 01:37:36,399 --> 01:37:42,000 the mobilizer wasn't fixed or they didn't use the right way, you know, 1509 01:37:42,239 --> 01:37:45,199 Look, there there's another defense for these manufacturers. And that's like there's an 1510 01:37:45,239 --> 01:37:49,960 intervening or superseding cause, Uh, these cars are being stolen by criminals. 1511 01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:57,000 Yeah, right, so there's a criminal act that would reduce or maybe completely 1512 01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:02,199 absolved the manufacturers. Right, I mean, I've got online that it's like 1513 01:38:02,279 --> 01:38:06,239 a two hundred dollars fix. That doesn't seem like a lot of money to 1514 01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:10,640 put it in there. But you know, people bought the cars and the 1515 01:38:11,239 --> 01:38:13,479 key. It didn't say, hey, listen, buy this car, it 1516 01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:16,640 can never be stolen. You bought a car, right, You bought a 1517 01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:20,800 car. It's got locks on it, and it's basically for the key fire 1518 01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:25,680 or the people would keys. So I think those cars, I would guess 1519 01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:32,279 are lesser expensive than the keyless entry and the keyless vehicles. It seems like 1520 01:38:32,399 --> 01:38:38,439 it's just a political posturing move to make the politicians, hey, we're doing 1521 01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:43,560 something, um and so vote so voters back in again. I think as 1522 01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,600 I hear this again, I didn't say too when we were talking. I 1523 01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:48,359 think it was push start because they were ripping out. I thought it was 1524 01:38:48,399 --> 01:38:53,039 pushed the popping the cap and I thought it was push start, which wouldn't 1525 01:38:53,039 --> 01:38:55,439 be a key, right, But I don't know. Well, you have 1526 01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,840 to have you would normally have to have a key with you present to start 1527 01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:00,680 the car on a push start. Yeah, well you need a the fob, 1528 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,920 yeah, the fob r yeah. Yeah. So I think they break 1529 01:39:04,079 --> 01:39:08,520 in through a window, get in there, rip the console out and that's 1530 01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:12,720 how they've been doing. By the way he's on you. Everything he's saying 1531 01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:16,560 is correct, But I get the mayor's point where you're trying to do something 1532 01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,880 for people who really I mean, look just like the guy who wrote Dickman 1533 01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,479 going to police, don't look at Yeah, it's the biggest thing in your 1534 01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:28,479 world. It's scary, it's unsettling. Somebody's in your space. Or if 1535 01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,880 your car is completely stolen and it's found crashed on Park Avenue, but you 1536 01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,680 know in the back of some other cars just abandoned about three days later, 1537 01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:38,600 it's total. You've got to go through that with the insurance. You've got 1538 01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,479 to have a toad. Someone took a crap in it, like your old 1539 01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:45,039 man's car, or like the Big Lebowski. Someone uses at a toilet seat 1540 01:39:45,039 --> 01:39:47,319 and moved on mark. One time my dad, my dad had a Ferrari 1541 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:55,520 fierrero fierro fierro, not a Ferrari fierro, and he was he was working 1542 01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,680 on his doctorate at Fordham in the Bronx, so he would go down there 1543 01:40:00,079 --> 01:40:01,239 for night classes. He was a teacher during the day. He would go 1544 01:40:01,239 --> 01:40:06,560 down to night and he left the car door unlocked and was in the parking 1545 01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:11,640 lot. He came back and my dad had had a mild stroke years prior 1546 01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:15,840 and he had lost really his sense of smell. So like, we used 1547 01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:19,720 to fart at dinner, and my father would always say that no, according 1548 01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:24,199 to Miss Manners, and there was a complete guide, Miss Manners Guide to 1549 01:40:24,359 --> 01:40:26,399 Perfect Etiquette is the name of the book. He can look it up. 1550 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:30,600 And he would say that, no, sounds that emanate from below the neck 1551 01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,920 exist. You don't. You don't acknowledge them because they don't exist. You 1552 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:36,000 pretend you can't hear him. So we used to rip farts like crazy, 1553 01:40:36,079 --> 01:40:39,439 and my mother was getting so pissed off, and she goes, can't just 1554 01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:46,359 smell. So my poor dad had sat gets in the car and drives two 1555 01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:50,000 hours from the Bronx back up to the little rural town I grew up in. 1556 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:54,960 And I must have come bounded up the stairs because I was in high 1557 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:58,000 school or something. And I see him, he's standing at the sink at 1558 01:40:58,079 --> 01:41:00,920 he's Washington, and he's got you know, he's got dad pants, like 1559 01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,199 they're sagging down a little bit and all this, and I see like it 1560 01:41:03,319 --> 01:41:08,640 looks like a banana, kind of like a rotten banana like twisted. You 1561 01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,640 know what I'm saying, like a banana had browned And I go, I 1562 01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,279 go, what is that on your fans? What are you talking about? 1563 01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:19,840 I go, what is that? Did you? What are you talking about? 1564 01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:24,399 And he comes back and he turns out someone took a shit and he 1565 01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,800 was fucking mortified. Mark, He couldn't he was out of his mind. 1566 01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,680 God, poor something. He was so pissed off. So but no one 1567 01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:34,960 broke a window anything. They just open the door. Took a ship. 1568 01:41:35,039 --> 01:41:40,479 It was hop They was unlocked the ship and left. It was saying a 1569 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,720 comfortable taking shit in car wouldn't be easier. I think someone just hung their 1570 01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,560 ass out, plopped and went. I don't know, someone in research brought 1571 01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,720 that to Like then my dad didn't get rid of the car, but he 1572 01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:53,399 had his scrubbed and all this, and then he put a seat cover over 1573 01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:58,279 that seat. Never never ever said that it's a featish ship in people's cars. 1574 01:41:58,359 --> 01:42:02,039 Stop it stopping. It's like the whack box. Back to the Coo. 1575 01:42:02,279 --> 01:42:05,600 But back to the Kia thing I had. I had a truck once. 1576 01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:09,359 I had a recall for ball bearings one time, like a wheel just 1577 01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,840 snapped in a parking lot. But that's their responsibility, right, That's what 1578 01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:15,319 I'm saying. So like, if if they know there's an issue, which 1579 01:42:15,359 --> 01:42:18,199 I by now I think that Kia and Hunde know there's an issue, shouldn't 1580 01:42:18,199 --> 01:42:20,560 they do a recall and we'll fix your car for you. I don't know, 1581 01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,920 because this is well, first of all, this is not that they 1582 01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:29,760 would knowingly ever do this, but this got out. We're listening to what 1583 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,760 Steve says here and it may answer exactly what's your question? A big pain 1584 01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:38,640 for the people and they can't afford the sneakers. Again. Now, I 1585 01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,520 had said to him that somebody had stolen a car that were sneakers in and 1586 01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,720 a kid had to go. Uh, this is a great answer that he 1587 01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,720 goes, So somebody had to go buy new sneakers for the kid to play 1588 01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:50,479 basketball. All that added expense, all that added stress, and you know, 1589 01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:54,520 I said that this is part of where a politician is going. I'm 1590 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,119 gonna try to do what I can for you. I don't know what that 1591 01:42:57,359 --> 01:43:00,239 is, but here intervening, cause if you don't put those sneakers in there, 1592 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:06,119 maybe nobody steals that car. Kiss says, Look, if they steal 1593 01:43:06,199 --> 01:43:10,119 the car outside that you know, you lost your sneakers, but if you 1594 01:43:10,119 --> 01:43:14,199 don't have them in there any value? So is that an interviewing cause it 1595 01:43:14,279 --> 01:43:19,600 again, where is the duty owed by Kia and the other manufacturer to uh 1596 01:43:20,199 --> 01:43:25,720 to prevent all concepts? And hey, listen, what about when the technological 1597 01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:31,920 wizards that use their their talent for criminal behaviors figure are how TOD immobilize the 1598 01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:39,960 immobilizer? Right, then there's under the duty to then go in and spend 1599 01:43:40,159 --> 01:43:45,000 billions of dollars in research and development billions. Maybe who knows to try to 1600 01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:47,359 fix that? I mean, where does it act? I mean if Kia 1601 01:43:47,399 --> 01:43:51,760 would be making representations that their car could never be stolen. You know, 1602 01:43:53,039 --> 01:43:56,279 somebody said to me the other day, this is a lot like the nineteen 1603 01:43:56,439 --> 01:44:00,439 seventies case before Pencil, which you know, I don't know the exact ole 1604 01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:04,039 figures. Well, the gas tanks were I was young man, I was 1605 01:44:04,159 --> 01:44:09,000 driving at a Vega which was eerially similar to a Finfrow. My parents had 1606 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,880 a Chevy Tiga. And you know, if you get rear ended at a 1607 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:15,560 pizel, uh Ford could have fixed it for twenty five cents, which was 1608 01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,680 more than it was worth you know then than it is now. Right, 1609 01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:23,159 twenty five cents was more, but they could have fixed it and saved lives. 1610 01:44:23,239 --> 01:44:27,359 Well, the different cheer is he is not saying that these cars can 1611 01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:30,479 never be stolen, much like Ford saying, you know, listen, you're 1612 01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:32,039 not gonna get rear ended in the car is not gonna blow up. You 1613 01:44:32,119 --> 01:44:38,960 have a reasonable a reasonable belief that buying a car, if it gets rerended, 1614 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:42,800 it's not gonna blow up and kill a family of four respectation. Yes, 1615 01:44:43,319 --> 01:44:45,800 I think the reasons like this. Just look, you can lock your 1616 01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:49,840 doors. You know, the keys are uniform to just one to just one 1617 01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:53,840 car, so you can't use other keys to get in there. But at 1618 01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:58,079 one point do you say there's the duty? Oh? I mean, what 1619 01:44:58,319 --> 01:45:01,000 was those red sticks that we had the This isn't the first time cars were 1620 01:45:01,079 --> 01:45:03,760 soul. When I had a car back in the eighties, we had that 1621 01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:10,039 red stick to put across the club. You got to bring back the club 1622 01:45:10,079 --> 01:45:12,800 and then what if you know, you know, I mean, it just 1623 01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:17,319 seems it looks, but it'll make the mirror and his corporation Council and every 1624 01:45:17,399 --> 01:45:21,720 city feel great. And look at us. We're fighting for the common person. 1625 01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:28,039 But everybody's not going to go to them. Yeah, it's a city. 1626 01:45:28,079 --> 01:45:30,880 They're not going to give the money back's gonna go to the law enforce. 1627 01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:32,439 But well, you know, to put more police on the streets, 1628 01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:36,000 that probably the good thing, and it would uh you know, have more 1629 01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:43,359 more custodial situations and taking like this young man who allegedly has six allegations of 1630 01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:47,479 presumed innocent, six allegations of cartaps. Get him off the street for a 1631 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:51,439 period of time, uh, because he can be prosecuted. But you know, 1632 01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:56,399 look, there's just doesn't make any sense to me. There's just no 1633 01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:00,439 duty owed by Key and the other manufacturer to guarantee his best they can the 1634 01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:02,880 car won't be stolen. And none of this came to light but for somewhat 1635 01:46:03,199 --> 01:46:08,600 video on TikTok or something that people do it right, So that's if you're 1636 01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:11,760 being sup that wasn't well known. It was like Kia said, hey, 1637 01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:15,119 buy our car, but by the way, if it doesn't have an am 1638 01:46:15,159 --> 01:46:17,039 mobilizer and so if you just do this this this, you can steal our 1639 01:46:17,079 --> 01:46:21,640 car. There's another intervening force or causation, and that is that video. 1640 01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:26,159 So I think it's much to do about nothing. I don't practice that law, 1641 01:46:26,239 --> 01:46:30,560 but I'd be surprised if there was a verdict in favor of all these 1642 01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:34,920 plaintiffs. But you know, business being what it is, perhaps Key and 1643 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:41,920 the other manufactural manufacturers settle, right, settle because it's it's good for their 1644 01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:45,239 brand. Look, we're here to people, you know, buy a key. 1645 01:46:45,319 --> 01:46:47,319 If something happens, you know, we'll we'll take care of it, 1646 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:53,800 as opposed to being the big bad corporation that sells cars to people knowing that 1647 01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,720 they could be stolen. Well, any car can be stolen, right, 1648 01:46:56,920 --> 01:47:00,239 so you can put a car on the back of a lift and feeling there 1649 01:47:00,319 --> 01:47:02,920 you go. So, I mean, I don't know if that answer your 1650 01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:05,960 question. I think that what you're talking about is a safety issue where people's 1651 01:47:06,039 --> 01:47:10,439 lives would be at jeopardy. This isn't a safety issue. This is a 1652 01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:14,840 deep inconvenience. But it's not a safety issue in terms of like a well 1653 01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,560 being issue, though it could be. I mean, I mean, we'll 1654 01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:23,960 talk about your well try, but I don't know it sort of is because 1655 01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:28,199 you know, like the pinto example, your ball bearing example. I've had 1656 01:47:28,319 --> 01:47:32,199 different recalls with cars too because a fire could break up. Those kinds of 1657 01:47:32,279 --> 01:47:36,279 things I think become a safety issue. The fact that your car may be 1658 01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:42,279 stolen is one. That your car may be stolen today, right right, 1659 01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:45,479 just happen to anybody. Yeah. Now, the problem is that it becomes 1660 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:48,319 a big expense for the city. Smashing grabs. Those cars are being used, 1661 01:47:48,399 --> 01:47:50,760 right, they're driving in. Didn't they just do want at the Montage 1662 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:54,239 Music Hall? And they've done them at the Comedy Club and all these other 1663 01:47:54,279 --> 01:47:57,199 places. And I think a lot of times it's a stolen car that they're 1664 01:47:57,319 --> 01:48:00,760 using. So it becomes an exp the for the city of Rochester. And 1665 01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,560 I do wonder a little bit. Is there a hey man, we got 1666 01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,399 to foot the bill for all this ship, Well what do we do. 1667 01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,960 Let's sue them and get some money back, and maybe that'll happen. I 1668 01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,039 don't know, but I don't think. I don't think the individuals are going 1669 01:48:12,079 --> 01:48:14,119 to get it. I don't think that. I don't think I'm not going 1670 01:48:14,199 --> 01:48:16,399 to see it. I don't think the you know, the the grandmother he's 1671 01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:19,439 talking about, you know, the senior citizen who did everything right. I 1672 01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:24,239 don't she'll see any money. But that's it. Uh, we'll take a 1673 01:48:24,359 --> 01:48:30,239 moment. I have an issue personal, but I will discuss. Oh yeah, 1674 01:48:30,399 --> 01:48:34,159 okay, personal issue. We talk about it, going to huh do 1675 01:48:34,239 --> 01:48:38,880 you know the fantasy letter? No, I've gotten more fantasy texts. Oh 1676 01:48:39,159 --> 01:48:42,560 yeah, yeah, how good all of us? Dan, what's up? 1677 01:48:44,279 --> 01:48:47,800 Uh? Loving my Dodge Ram big horn Sport? I know we hear you 1678 01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:51,520 hawking in it coming down the street last night to m'connery's victim is here. 1679 01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:58,239 I saw Kevin as they pulled up. He was outside of the uh upper 1680 01:48:58,319 --> 01:49:00,760 deck upstairs. Yeah, like Kevin's like pump. What does fist like they 1681 01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:04,199 do with a semi er? Well, it's a truck. Month on rams. 1682 01:49:04,239 --> 01:49:08,119 You can get a great deal. These are really sported down into the 1683 01:49:08,239 --> 01:49:12,760 last stitch inside that truck. It is unbelievable and the great thing. Easy 1684 01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:15,279 to drive, so easy to drive where trucks used to not be easy to 1685 01:49:15,399 --> 01:49:17,800 drive. If you go way back into the old days when he had to 1686 01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:21,439 get out of your car with a tool to change it into four wheel drive, 1687 01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:26,960 you to change all these like my dad had one of those shifters on 1688 01:49:27,039 --> 01:49:29,760 the floor that you had to adjust. The car had to be in park. 1689 01:49:30,359 --> 01:49:32,159 Truck gonna be any to adjustice and couldn't do it in the fly was 1690 01:49:32,199 --> 01:49:35,359 an upgrade from what from what they Yeah, yeah, and now it's a 1691 01:49:35,399 --> 01:49:40,159 button. Now it's literally a button. Do you know that? It always 1692 01:49:40,279 --> 01:49:43,039 is a dial to go from park to drive to neutral to reverse. It's 1693 01:49:43,079 --> 01:49:46,560 just a dial. It's a fucking do this stick involved. I honestly, 1694 01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:50,119 when we were in Lake Placid, Yeah, we were going. I carm 1695 01:49:50,199 --> 01:49:53,840 had something going on with Anthony. He had gotten gotten injured or something in 1696 01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,640 the game. So I'm like, I'll go get the truck. I used 1697 01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,119 the key five to open it and literally sat there for five minutes try to 1698 01:49:59,119 --> 01:50:01,199 figure out turn todamnthing. I had no idea, right, and then I've 1699 01:50:01,279 --> 01:50:03,600 got it on. I'm like, where the hell's the shifter? Right? 1700 01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:08,840 And I found that because it's minus fifty. Yeah, those things heat up 1701 01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:12,159 quick. Yeah, heat up quick. But I mean it's amazing technology that 1702 01:50:12,279 --> 01:50:15,479 Dodge has. And I'll tell you right now, you can get a Dodge 1703 01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:17,479 Jeep ram maybe a truck isn't you're not in the market for a truck. 1704 01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:21,600 Maybe it's Let me just say this real quick. If you do any kind 1705 01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:29,319 of work landscaping, uh, you're a contractor of any kind. This truck 1706 01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,159 is the truck you want because basically it's a like a mobile office. You 1707 01:50:31,159 --> 01:50:33,720 can get the Internet right in there. Yeah, you could send your invoices 1708 01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:35,640 and everything. You never have to you know what I mean. It's it's 1709 01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:41,760 like a mobile rolling office and it's poles and toes and does everything for the 1710 01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:44,439 tools and room for the family. You've already run it out the back seat 1711 01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:48,199 as an Airbnb billy. It's been faced for itself. You can get a 1712 01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:53,439 Jeep Grand Cherokee at Victor Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Sport Utility for two ninety nine 1713 01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:56,039 a month for twenty four months, ten thousand miles per your twenty five hundred 1714 01:50:56,039 --> 01:50:58,800 Casher Trade first payment, DMV, taxes and fees, do it signing and 1715 01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,000 it must be a return ning licy. You can see all their deals at 1716 01:51:01,079 --> 01:51:04,399 Victor c DJR dot com. What you drive matters. Keep you and your 1717 01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:09,880 family safe with a visit to Victor Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Root ninety six in 1718 01:51:10,359 --> 01:51:38,760 Victor. I think that was like the first nipple I saw on the cover 1719 01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:45,199 of the album. I think I remember, I don't know, I don't 1720 01:51:45,199 --> 01:51:47,079 know that I know the album, but I just remember Donna Summer like in 1721 01:51:47,159 --> 01:51:55,159 a white rash. Yeah, yeah, I get the cameras. I'm sorry, 1722 01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:59,720 cameras, aren't I forgive you? No, no, no, just 1723 01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:06,479 tryan I've been helpful. That's only one I didn't say that. So this 1724 01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:11,439 Donna Summer, humh Yeah, yeah, I'll see if I can find the 1725 01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:15,079 album cover. One who's playing the guitars, Niles Rogers. It could be, 1726 01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:17,319 could be he was fat. He's fantastic, you know, he like 1727 01:52:17,399 --> 01:52:21,239 but Donna Wanda like play Pattycake with him and he turned her down. Nah, 1728 01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:30,760 Mark, you probably want to watch that. Yeah, with this song 1729 01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:34,439 in the background, I used that term now, So what do you want 1730 01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:40,119 to do? Pull a hellman. We gotta make that a thing. I 1731 01:52:40,239 --> 01:52:42,760 knew, we gotta make it. We gotta make that a thing. I 1732 01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,520 don't mean it in a bad way. It's another T shirt idea for this 1733 01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,840 show. Baby. All right, So Donna Summer, I loved to love 1734 01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:53,760 you, baby. So the uh I've been having this. There's a couple 1735 01:52:53,800 --> 01:53:00,279 of problems lately, but I I I should I'm embarrassed even talking about this. 1736 01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:04,720 Will go ahead. No, the problem, it's not fucking weird. 1737 01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:10,119 I let say that it's something that everybody goes. That's the same thing. 1738 01:53:10,319 --> 01:53:15,680 Okay, I'm not watching people changes that's going on. No, you're problem 1739 01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,159 getting a boner. No, I fucking sweat like a motherfucker these days when 1740 01:53:19,159 --> 01:53:21,800 you sleep or just in general, well sometimes when they sleep, but when 1741 01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:24,720 you sleep, you might want to go to the doctor. No, I'm 1742 01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:28,479 sleep naked. No, No, like like your body might be fighting something. 1743 01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,199 If you're sleeping consecutive days and sweating and your sleep in the wintertime, 1744 01:53:31,239 --> 01:53:34,439 you might want to go to the doctor. Dude, that happened to me, 1745 01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:39,520 And what happened? What did they not? From the sweating? I 1746 01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:43,439 woke up sweaty. I woke up sweaty a few times too. But I 1747 01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:45,800 don't know. Sometimes I just get to a fit bit for your birthday to 1748 01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:49,239 August, right, Yeah, I like I got hit stains like it's gross. 1749 01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:51,880 I know you have been sweating more lately. What the fuck is? 1750 01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:56,159 Well it is fucking seventy se here. No, yeah, I gotta sweater 1751 01:53:56,239 --> 01:53:58,479 on. I'm not sweat. I didn't. I didn't set it there. 1752 01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,039 I don't know why it is. I agree with that, but I'm saying, 1753 01:54:00,119 --> 01:54:04,199 like all the time. Lately, I like the pits and it's annoying 1754 01:54:04,279 --> 01:54:08,319 me and I always have to spray my t shirts and things with you under 1755 01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,640 Yeah. But you also said yesterday you've lost ten pounds, so that could 1756 01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:14,920 be your metabolism going into overdrive too, And that's true, that's true that 1757 01:54:15,279 --> 01:54:16,720 I've been working to lose that way. Yeah. So when you build more 1758 01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:19,960 muscle, carrots, when you build more muscle, yeah, you sweat more. 1759 01:54:20,239 --> 01:54:24,720 I could build more more metabolises. Thing. What, there's gotta be 1760 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:28,239 some kind of clinic we live in twenty twenty three. You asked us you 1761 01:54:28,319 --> 01:54:32,119 got a undershirt shirt. I'm not fucking undershirting under shirt Jesus. And there's 1762 01:54:32,159 --> 01:54:36,079 gotta be some kind of deodorant that stops this ship. Yeah, speed stick 1763 01:54:36,279 --> 01:54:42,560 by Man. That smells awful. Speed stick. I remember that. That's 1764 01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:45,279 like us. That's a that's a that's a ground. They sell some kind 1765 01:54:45,319 --> 01:54:48,960 of clinical shit mark. Yeah, they spice. Oh there's the stuff that 1766 01:54:49,039 --> 01:54:51,800 they use. I know what you're telling me. Yeah, I've seen commercials 1767 01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:57,159 stort those in Lake, Ontario in my own Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 1768 01:54:57,199 --> 01:55:00,199 there's a lot going on there, I know. Yeah. Wishing for bitcoins 1769 01:55:00,239 --> 01:55:04,880 in there soon. I got an idea for you. Whether there that like 1770 01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:09,760 lake lake on on a dogger. Hey, they're gonna they're gonna like find 1771 01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:12,119 bitcoins and them like there are bitcoins in there. No, No, that's 1772 01:55:12,119 --> 01:55:15,319 not what they mean. There's a situation solved. There's a hard cup of 1773 01:55:15,399 --> 01:55:19,039 coconut oil, a quarter cup of carn you make this is to make your 1774 01:55:19,079 --> 01:55:24,359 own make your own deodorant, or you could just use carpe carpet of stuff 1775 01:55:24,359 --> 01:55:27,119 that helps you stop sweating. You've ever heard of this carpet? Like there 1776 01:55:27,119 --> 01:55:30,439 are people giving these testimonials with they're crying about having hand sweat and leg sweating. 1777 01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,359 I was sweating my whole life. This is the answer to my problems. 1778 01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:36,800 It's called carpet. And like they put on their hands in their palms 1779 01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:42,920 and their knees and let me just tell you something right now. If a 1780 01:55:43,039 --> 01:55:45,000 hot chick walked in here right now, all right, and she was like 1781 01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:48,119 hi guys, and she came over to give me a hug, I wouldn't 1782 01:55:48,159 --> 01:55:51,720 I would be you wouldn't be confident, arid, extra dry, Raise your 1783 01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:55,079 hand, raise your hand. If you're short, Yeah, you'll be unsure 1784 01:55:56,680 --> 01:55:59,800 to get a little closer. Why do you assume she's going right to you? 1785 01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:03,319 Have you looked at the three of you what I had to do with 1786 01:56:03,399 --> 01:56:08,000 I haven't said anything because, like the older at commercials were huge in the 1787 01:56:08,079 --> 01:56:12,279 eighties. Yeah, they revolutionize it. They had band roll on, they 1788 01:56:12,319 --> 01:56:15,640 had speed stick where they would like and you snap your fingers. Yeah, 1789 01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:19,680 so you know it's smooth. I've been using uh dove for men. Okay, 1790 01:56:20,479 --> 01:56:23,640 not working Mark, How I got it for you? I mean it 1791 01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:29,920 smells good. I don't smell bad. How about the lady? Pace right, 1792 01:56:30,039 --> 01:56:35,600 get the dry, get a dry women? Women's Uh work for the 1793 01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:40,079 ladies more than the dudes, because ladies don't like the sweat. I don't 1794 01:56:40,119 --> 01:56:43,159 mind the sweating. And by the way, man, I've been I was 1795 01:56:43,239 --> 01:56:45,520 thinking to you when when I was going on, I think I'm gonna talk 1796 01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:47,560 about this. And I've been one other times. So I have tripped on 1797 01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:53,560 people in intimate situations. I have been like on a hot summer day, 1798 01:56:54,960 --> 01:57:01,279 Oh, just wailing and railing and that goosing and trips off the chin trip 1799 01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:05,399 drip, oh, trip trip. Okay, I can figure that out. 1800 01:57:05,399 --> 01:57:09,359 Okay, Hell, you're hearing over there? Am I hearing? I heard 1801 01:57:09,399 --> 01:57:12,479 the same thing. He said, trip, I thought I've tripped over. 1802 01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:16,920 People have a worry at the Kicks Society. He he did say trip, 1803 01:57:17,359 --> 01:57:20,439 I did? Yeah, alright, Well, so you dripped drinking water, 1804 01:57:21,119 --> 01:57:24,520 so you're like, you know, really getting into it, and all of 1805 01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:28,399 a sudden and you start tripping. I don't know. I'm breathing like that. 1806 01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:30,760 You had a mouth breathing and you have a check still talking. I 1807 01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,239 got a lot of ship sound you like that? Do you like that? 1808 01:57:33,359 --> 01:57:38,199 Does that feel good? Do you like that? No? I don't say 1809 01:57:38,279 --> 01:57:40,359 that either. What do you say? I say? Nasty ship? I 1810 01:57:40,479 --> 01:57:43,520 call your names? Oh? No, kidding, but he always say okay, 1811 01:57:44,479 --> 01:57:45,680 next time, you will do whatever you do. You're gonnavite Mark over 1812 01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:47,840 to watch, so we could tape you to see what you're saying. Mark, 1813 01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:54,840 you will be waiting a long time. Always the ones though, no 1814 01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:57,760 offense, Bill fuck you? You would watch this year? No? I 1815 01:57:57,760 --> 01:58:00,079 went out? What did I tell you? The Royal One? You would 1816 01:58:00,119 --> 01:58:03,319 watch? I would not watch you. You would not you? You would 1817 01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:09,319 watch Kevin interacting? Could also maybe you, but you'd watch me. I'm 1818 01:58:09,399 --> 01:58:14,000 kidding because he goes my wife. That's why I don't know. I don't 1819 01:58:14,039 --> 01:58:15,800 know if I don't know if that's a complement or not. I'm gonna give 1820 01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:20,319 it a pass. Yes, you can watch very very bizarre way. Yeah, 1821 01:58:20,479 --> 01:58:24,840 I do not watch guys that I know. It has to be the 1822 01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:27,840 girl I know and a guy. Well, I'm gonna find a girl you 1823 01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:30,159 know, No, but that didn't I'm gonna say to her, you know, 1824 01:58:30,359 --> 01:58:34,079 Mark's gonna want to watch this. You'll get the men in black, 1825 01:58:34,159 --> 01:58:38,800 flashy thing and flash. They belong to some society called Mark Hillman anonymous. 1826 01:58:39,399 --> 01:58:42,960 All these guys who bang all these chicken nose. Mark's a cult leader that 1827 01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:48,720 wouldn't surprise me, called the Watchers. He's like the David Koresh according to 1828 01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:53,399 the King Girl, um my fetish is a normal one. So that's gonna 1829 01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:56,560 did you goday? No? I didn't go. Oh that was the whole 1830 01:58:56,640 --> 01:59:00,279 point. I didn't go. Why because he's a pussy. Yeah I could 1831 01:59:00,279 --> 01:59:06,000 say that because you know what, let me tell you something. I don't 1832 01:59:06,039 --> 01:59:10,239 think I could have got either, Like I could not have gone. No. 1833 01:59:10,319 --> 01:59:14,039 I could have talked a big game and said there's not a chance I 1834 01:59:14,079 --> 01:59:15,680 could have gone. I just couldn't. I'm with you one hundred percent. 1835 01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:18,479 So we do. We go out on Sundays, is our a bunch of 1836 01:59:19,359 --> 01:59:25,319 right right, and the King Club. He's going to beat to Billies and 1837 01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:30,880 Masslin. Are you gonna fucking waste your time go into freakingmercials? He goes 1838 01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:34,159 to watch the King Club and he goes, you know exactly who's gonna be 1839 01:59:34,279 --> 01:59:39,159 there and who it is, and you're gonna recognize everybody. They're gonna see 1840 01:59:39,199 --> 01:59:41,920 you there. Then they're gonna be You're gonna be part of that group. 1841 01:59:42,119 --> 01:59:44,079 He goes, come on, he goes, let's do it, let's do 1842 01:59:44,119 --> 01:59:47,000 a shot. Thanks. They talked you out of it. Yeah, pretty 1843 01:59:47,079 --> 01:59:50,199 much. So you were on the fence all the way up to then. 1844 01:59:50,479 --> 01:59:54,439 No, actually I forgot about him. Yeah, I didn't think so. 1845 01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:58,479 I think in the moment you thought, and all of a sudden, nobody 1846 01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:02,760 could see Nobody could see Uh, what's her name, shauns shuns? No 1847 02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:05,800 one could see her when she was in here, right, never on camera? 1848 02:00:06,039 --> 02:00:11,439 Right. But she she was not what we expected, not at all 1849 02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:14,680 like what you're talking about. She says, she was the beat abilities before. 1850 02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:16,359 I wouldn't noticed her. I've never seen her there. So what were 1851 02:00:16,399 --> 02:00:19,319 you going to say before as I said, I had a personal issue. 1852 02:00:19,319 --> 02:00:26,239 You had a story bunch of about twenty years ago. I went, I 1853 02:00:26,359 --> 02:00:30,159 met this girl in a Bill's game and she looked just like Rose McGowan. 1854 02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:32,119 Okay, and that's when I was three hundred and fifth, when I was 1855 02:00:32,199 --> 02:00:34,880 fatter than I am. You were three hundred and fifty pounds. Yeah, 1856 02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:38,319 I'm still scanning and this is still skinny the way I used to be. 1857 02:00:38,560 --> 02:00:41,319 I still have one hundred pounds later. Did you have the surgery? Yeah, 1858 02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:45,399 okay, well you were three fifty, bro. Yeah, I didn't 1859 02:00:45,439 --> 02:00:49,279 know that either. Tall five times, So we're about to say five eight, 1860 02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:51,760 five times, alight, five nine. I was gonna say, Actually 1861 02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:57,000 it was just Rose McGowan and scream blonde or Rose McGowan black haired, Rose 1862 02:00:57,119 --> 02:01:01,359 McGowan, uh from Charmed Okay, all right, okay, auburn brown, 1863 02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:05,399 black hair. So she's she's smoking hot. And so we're hanging out the 1864 02:01:05,439 --> 02:01:11,560 Bills game and we exchange numbers and you were three fifty. Get this broad's 1865 02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:13,920 number. That's the whole that's my whole point. I'm like, what you 1866 02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:16,680 know, hey, my weight, your area? She like that's right, 1867 02:01:16,720 --> 02:01:21,680 she like like fact that guys. Yeah, so I go on the thing. 1868 02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:32,960 Huh so yeah, stuck in the pringles can. Oh, it's stuck 1869 02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:39,880 in the booth of Denny's. I'm sorry, that was horrible. That's that's 1870 02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:44,000 not appropriate. Sorry, go ahead, just let's see him out fall the 1871 02:01:44,079 --> 02:01:49,319 fucking Sorry for hey mail send up to Kevin please. So I go to 1872 02:01:49,399 --> 02:01:53,560 our house. Um, next weekend, I stay at our house. So 1873 02:01:53,800 --> 02:01:57,960 I go to go to I go to go down on her Jesus. Okay, 1874 02:01:58,159 --> 02:02:00,760 yeah, that's not what I was expecting. And well he's hungry. 1875 02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:04,279 He's going to eat its mark. He's three hundred and fifty pounds, right. 1876 02:02:04,399 --> 02:02:11,159 He brought a doggy bag he left over. I lit my deal bill 1877 02:02:11,239 --> 02:02:18,239 wallet at home, all the cards. I didn't move two plates. Oh 1878 02:02:18,279 --> 02:02:27,319 you can eat buffet baby mark human here. You about to go to go 1879 02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:33,039 corral? All right, So what happened? I got down there way, 1880 02:02:33,239 --> 02:02:41,439 um, came up very quickly. Why, oh yeah, I do the 1881 02:02:41,479 --> 02:02:44,680 stuff. Well, I do this because I had back springs. Before I 1882 02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:46,800 do the stomach thing. I go down and go down. You get to 1883 02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:49,760 the stomach and you can smell something. You don't go down there. That's 1884 02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:54,880 my that is my advice. I would like you to sit with my sons 1885 02:02:54,960 --> 02:03:00,520 and have this. Do you know what I'm saying? Kiss you imagine that? 1886 02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:02,720 Hey, listen, son Jeeves. I suggested to you if you were 1887 02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:09,279 gonna go with that here I've suggested before people, very very grateful, very 1888 02:03:09,319 --> 02:03:13,920 grateful. I was like, get out. So anyways away, They're poor. 1889 02:03:14,039 --> 02:03:16,279 Woman probably had something going on she can't control. Right, everybody has 1890 02:03:16,359 --> 02:03:20,840 a bad day, right, all right, you go back again. So 1891 02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:24,800 we go back again, like that guy. We're actually in my We're actually 1892 02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:28,039 in my car, and I started we start messing around, and there are 1893 02:03:28,079 --> 02:03:31,119 the same smells there, right, So you said something, No, I 1894 02:03:31,199 --> 02:03:33,560 got her out of the fucking car. Yeah, I had. I had 1895 02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:36,880 all my it was like November. I had all my windows rolled down on 1896 02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:41,560 the on the freaking slip a piece of garment there. Yeah, yeah, 1897 02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:45,359 yeah, I go home. I parked the car. My father moves it 1898 02:03:45,439 --> 02:03:48,439 the next day and he walks and he goes, what the fuck did you 1899 02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:57,479 run over? Okay, all right, now, mind you he's also a 1900 02:03:57,600 --> 02:03:59,920 chubby guy. He's a chubby guy at this point, so we should get 1901 02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:04,159 her side of the story too. If she was one off, the smell 1902 02:04:04,319 --> 02:04:08,520 was something stuck in you. It wasn't all right. It didn't quite smell 1903 02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:11,199 like a Rose McGown. I mean, you know, I mean it happened 1904 02:04:11,239 --> 02:04:14,760 twice, so it's like, you know, yeah twice, Yeah, yeah, 1905 02:04:15,039 --> 02:04:17,000 the pattern. I'm I'm sensing a pattern. It was did you go 1906 02:04:17,119 --> 02:04:21,640 back for the for the trifecta? Nor? It's lovely? You know. 1907 02:04:23,319 --> 02:04:26,239 Now, I don't know if you want to what you want to say to 1908 02:04:26,319 --> 02:04:30,359 this, okay, And it has nothing to do with perversion. I'm gonna 1909 02:04:30,439 --> 02:04:32,680 just try to steer it away from the smelly situation. We were just please. 1910 02:04:33,039 --> 02:04:39,800 Uh. But when I was a kid, I think the bus drivers 1911 02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:43,399 might have break checked us a few times. Oh to get your head to 1912 02:04:43,439 --> 02:04:45,600 slap against the seat in front of us, he lies up. So the 1913 02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:50,880 sixty one year old guy in Colorado facing thirty misdemeter counts of child abuse because 1914 02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:57,840 he breaked checked. Now the bad part is now they have cameras and everything. 1915 02:04:57,880 --> 02:05:00,000 Oh yeah, so you can see it and you see the little kid 1916 02:05:00,239 --> 02:05:05,159 and their little bodies go slamming. Didn't happened to me, Well, it 1917 02:05:05,239 --> 02:05:08,920 happened to me a lot. But here's the thing. It's like, I 1918 02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:15,439 go, I don't know if this is we're soft now or this should have 1919 02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:18,239 just never happened, you know what I mean, like because the big but 1920 02:05:18,399 --> 02:05:21,760 those seats are hard, the high back seats and all. But but now, 1921 02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:25,479 when I was really little, they were metal backs. I remember that 1922 02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:29,239 low. They were lower and because we used to hate it because the bus 1923 02:05:29,399 --> 02:05:31,039 driver could see everything you were doing. Yes, yes, wow, we 1924 02:05:31,119 --> 02:05:34,640 got the substitute bus. Today you can sit low in those seats and all. 1925 02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:39,800 But um, I mean they break checked. I had my friend's parents, 1926 02:05:40,199 --> 02:05:43,680 it would have us in the back seat and then that they'd swerve seats, 1927 02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:45,479 smack your head on the window and they'd laugh and laugh like it was 1928 02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:49,039 nuts. My dad would do stuff like okay, but so different time. 1929 02:05:49,119 --> 02:05:53,720 That's a different time. But I go thirty. I mean, you tell 1930 02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:56,600 the guy, hey, man, don't do this again. I guess because 1931 02:05:56,600 --> 02:06:01,079 you can't find I'm gonna count thirty. His name is Brian Fitzgerald. He's 1932 02:06:01,079 --> 02:06:04,359 face, he's sixty one years old. He's apologized to the Douglas Kennedy School 1933 02:06:04,359 --> 02:06:09,199 District. This is in Colorado. Uh. He's facing thirty misdemeanor counts to 1934 02:06:09,319 --> 02:06:14,560 child abuse, including child abuse with bodily injuries carries a maximum sentence of a 1935 02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:17,199 year and just shy of a year three hundred and sixty four days in jail, 1936 02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:20,439 and he's due to go to court in on May twelve. Is it 1937 02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:24,840 thirty because there were thirty kids on the bus and they all slammed it once? 1938 02:06:25,319 --> 02:06:27,640 Or did he do the thirty if he did this like thirty times. 1939 02:06:28,039 --> 02:06:30,399 I think it's thirty for thirty one thirty kids. And I don't know if 1940 02:06:30,399 --> 02:06:34,520 some of these kids now from the video I saw or the I saw a 1941 02:06:34,720 --> 02:06:40,039 still of what was a picture if shaken out the video, so it's sort 1942 02:06:40,039 --> 02:06:43,760 of blurred when you see these and they look little little kids and they're slamming. 1943 02:06:44,920 --> 02:06:47,479 But I go, all right, you got break checked. Shut your 1944 02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:51,000 mouth. If that's my kids. See this is where I know, like 1945 02:06:51,119 --> 02:06:54,840 it was a big problem when I was married because I would often go, 1946 02:06:55,039 --> 02:07:00,880 yeah, you should learn to shake your mouth. But us valid point, 1947 02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:06,319 like we you know a kid could get very hurt concussions or happen all the 1948 02:07:06,359 --> 02:07:10,960 time. Now we're finding out takes very little. So yeah, they got 1949 02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:14,000 the guy from concussion tell the truth. See the move. The move is 1950 02:07:14,119 --> 02:07:17,359 you don't you don't break jack either, just don't you slow down enough to 1951 02:07:17,399 --> 02:07:19,920 get over the speed bump, but not enough for the back of the buses. 1952 02:07:23,079 --> 02:07:24,760 Yeah, the kids in the friend aren't going to feel it, but 1953 02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:27,720 they're the ones not screwing around either. Yeah. I think somebody was standing 1954 02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:30,000 on the vaccat once and somebody hit a bump or a pothole and they hit 1955 02:07:30,079 --> 02:07:38,039 their head on the ceiling. But I mean, I don't know anymore because 1956 02:07:38,079 --> 02:07:41,199 we can't find bus drivers. That's from what I understand. My brothers. 1957 02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:44,720 My brothers a bus driver. Okay, but now does he tell you or 1958 02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:46,680 is it or is there a shortage where he's at? Well, we're the 1959 02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:49,520 same place, so okay, because there a shortage, yes, yeah, 1960 02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:53,960 and I remember, especially after COVID, there were many places that were even 1961 02:07:54,039 --> 02:07:57,199 saying around the country, you may have to drive your kids to school. 1962 02:07:57,239 --> 02:08:01,199 We don't have enough bus drivers, enough buses. So now you're gonna take 1963 02:08:01,199 --> 02:08:03,640 a guy who this is the only thing he did. Maybe you suspend him 1964 02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:07,800 for a week or something, or maybe have him go talk to you other 1965 02:08:07,880 --> 02:08:09,279 parents. I don't know what the fuck you do, but I go up, 1966 02:08:09,279 --> 02:08:13,199 where are you gonna find somebody to put up with that? Did the 1967 02:08:13,279 --> 02:08:16,359 helmet boys ever roll together. We didn't like the dukes. We did a 1968 02:08:16,399 --> 02:08:20,319 couple of times we wrote together as part time. Yeah, yeah, it 1969 02:08:20,399 --> 02:08:22,159 looks like a tough gig to me, it is. It is a tough 1970 02:08:24,079 --> 02:08:26,600 we It works now, brother of a break check anybody. No, nobody 1971 02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:30,199 stops, but he will stout. He'll stop the bus though. Oh man, 1972 02:08:30,239 --> 02:08:33,720 I remember this one way, got pulled over, got out of his 1973 02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:37,640 seat, came into the bag. He jack. I think he had one 1974 02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:43,640 kid up against the window of like pressed up against his collar bone with his 1975 02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:46,640 forearm, screaming in his face. We had drivers like that. Yeah, 1976 02:08:46,319 --> 02:08:52,640 could you imagine that today? There's a part I don't know about. Look, 1977 02:08:52,840 --> 02:08:56,760 it's like a teacher, except don't respective a teacher. So he's got 1978 02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:58,640 to command the bus or somebody's gonna get killed. Well this is the point. 1979 02:09:00,159 --> 02:09:03,720 But I'm not saying that the kids are soft. I think kids have 1980 02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:05,359 reacted the same way, like you scared the shit out of me or whatever, 1981 02:09:05,760 --> 02:09:09,199 but they now know. Well there's videos, so I don't even know 1982 02:09:09,239 --> 02:09:13,439 if a kid told. But if I went home and said something, my 1983 02:09:13,600 --> 02:09:16,119 parents were like going, oh, you know, they maybe call the school 1984 02:09:16,159 --> 02:09:18,680 and go, hey, you just want I don't know if my father if 1985 02:09:18,680 --> 02:09:22,319 I told my father, but he probably deserved it. You look at I 1986 02:09:22,399 --> 02:09:24,319 wasn't on that part. I'll tell you what we would have died. Let 1987 02:09:24,359 --> 02:09:28,720 me tell you what happened back in my day pictures. That's why this on 1988 02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:33,920 bus six. We'd't even have multiple digits generally so different. He's being trying 1989 02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:37,439 to be funny, but nobody's right. He's right. I mean, you 1990 02:09:37,720 --> 02:09:41,720 just mean an example of your accident taking your boy side. Well, not 1991 02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:45,920 always. I don't want to paint that picture. I'm just saying certain instances. 1992 02:09:46,039 --> 02:09:48,920 I would say things like and and she would you know. I used 1993 02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:52,039 the example once there was an incident at the school and all the parents were 1994 02:09:52,079 --> 02:09:54,920 going to go up and the swat team was there, and they had a 1995 02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:58,800 scary situation. I'm going, why are you going? Don't go? And 1996 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:01,920 I was like the I was the odd man out. It's the whole neighborhood 1997 02:10:01,960 --> 02:10:05,199 goes up. I'm I'm standing in the sun room, going, you guys 1998 02:10:05,239 --> 02:10:07,640 are really ain't going there? Uh, you know, thinking you're just gonna 1999 02:10:07,640 --> 02:10:11,880 get in the way. What are you gonna do? They got guns and 2000 02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:16,039 they're there for the protective me. What are you you gonna add? Right? 2001 02:10:16,239 --> 02:10:22,800 But that's that way. That's my thinking team. Karen's gonna this is 2002 02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:26,640 my thinking on things, okay. And so a lot of times I don't 2003 02:10:26,680 --> 02:10:28,960 know that it's smart. I just make sense to me. And if it 2004 02:10:30,039 --> 02:10:31,720 makes sense to me, that's what I do. And a lot of times 2005 02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:35,920 the ship didn't make sense to me, and so it would lead to problems. 2006 02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:41,359 Don't That's what I always say, Don't be a superhero like you clock 2007 02:10:41,479 --> 02:10:45,159 everything like Colestero. So that's that's all. I was always my thing Mark 2008 02:10:45,239 --> 02:10:48,079 and and there were certain situations with the guys, so we go, I'm 2009 02:10:48,119 --> 02:10:50,199 not gonna right, you know. And I went to Kevin School in my 2010 02:10:50,239 --> 02:10:56,159 whole life. Yeah, and when the priests would hit us, yeah, 2011 02:10:56,600 --> 02:10:58,560 and we'd go home and cry yea, and my father'd be like, what 2012 02:10:58,680 --> 02:11:03,119 did you do? Right, I'd be in more trouble by telling him you 2013 02:11:03,239 --> 02:11:07,039 better hope that the teacher didn't tell your father yea or or something like that. 2014 02:11:07,199 --> 02:11:09,680 Right, hit you so hard you have a crack on the other ways 2015 02:11:09,039 --> 02:11:11,800 it was. That was the way it was back then. Now, my 2016 02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:18,319 one of my boys went to a private high school and there were some incidents 2017 02:11:18,359 --> 02:11:20,880 that happened, and they said we'll handle it, and I said fine, 2018 02:11:20,920 --> 02:11:24,439 and I didn't get it. I did not pile on at home. I 2019 02:11:24,560 --> 02:11:28,600 figured it's handled right exactly, that's hand and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 2020 02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:31,840 pile on at home. Was stuff at home. I wouldn't expect the school 2021 02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:35,000 to take care of that, you know. But that's the problem. Now 2022 02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:37,520 we we back back in high school after this, Just after I graduated, 2023 02:11:37,560 --> 02:11:41,920 my brother had gotten in trouble his senior year, and we had a denas 2024 02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:43,960 students because at that point, we don't want the principle handling these problems. 2025 02:11:45,039 --> 02:11:46,159 Yea, it wants to be your past. Yeah, So we're gonna have 2026 02:11:46,239 --> 02:11:50,520 a Dinas students. And it's the old height, the old elementary school, 2027 02:11:50,199 --> 02:11:54,159 uh Jim teacher and former football coach who looked like Hulk Hogan with short hair. 2028 02:11:54,640 --> 02:11:58,079 Right, So everyone's kind of intimidated, but they still hated this guy. 2029 02:11:58,239 --> 02:12:00,960 Right. So my brother gets into trouble and he goes, hey, 2030 02:12:01,119 --> 02:12:03,359 tell us my brother, Joel, Hey, why don't you call your father 2031 02:12:03,439 --> 02:12:05,439 up and tell him what you did. I'll tell out the phone for you, 2032 02:12:07,039 --> 02:12:09,640 Dallas. The phone hands it to mister Burrell. Oh yeah, says 2033 02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:13,159 Archie Bradley over at Silver Creek c Yeah, yeah, it's Joel again. 2034 02:12:13,199 --> 02:12:15,039 Hey, you want to talk to him and see what he did. And 2035 02:12:15,159 --> 02:12:16,680 my father he gets on the phone my father. My father goes, oh, 2036 02:12:16,760 --> 02:12:18,640 that's cute, Joel, that's real cute. You're gonna do. The 2037 02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:22,840 time I hand the phone back to Archie had shut up. I mean like 2038 02:12:22,920 --> 02:12:28,199 he like he had no tolerance for any of that stuff. Yes, zero, 2039 02:12:28,520 --> 02:12:31,239 yeah. Oh, my old man blew me in for what. I 2040 02:12:31,399 --> 02:12:37,279 skipped school and I went to the mall and it was all ways away the 2041 02:12:37,359 --> 02:12:39,680 mall from where I lived, so I had a car. I skipped school, 2042 02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:41,600 and I went to a bottle walkman, and then I went to see 2043 02:12:41,680 --> 02:12:45,279 my buddy who was homesick, hung out with him for a little while. 2044 02:12:45,359 --> 02:12:48,119 And I timed it perfectly, so the school bus went by, and as 2045 02:12:48,199 --> 02:12:52,399 the school bus pulled away, I pulled him the driveway just like I normally 2046 02:12:52,439 --> 02:12:56,840 wouldn't, right, And my old man goes says to me, hey, 2047 02:12:56,520 --> 02:13:00,920 this seemed like a loaded question. It turned out it was. He said, 2048 02:13:01,000 --> 02:13:03,039 Hey, was mister Tys, who happened to be my first period teacher, 2049 02:13:03,119 --> 02:13:07,000 and football coach. Was he in school day? And I said, 2050 02:13:07,159 --> 02:13:11,880 uh, all right, I gotta listen. I didn't go. What I 2051 02:13:13,199 --> 02:13:15,399 didn't go to school day? What are you talking about? I go? 2052 02:13:15,479 --> 02:13:16,520 I didn't go. I said, here's the walk when I went to the 2053 02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:20,840 Mamba, and I went and I saw my buddy Nate. And my father 2054 02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:24,359 was like, your sister got sick at school and I had to pick her 2055 02:13:24,479 --> 02:13:28,800 up. And I'm in the pediatricians waiting room and I thought I saw mister 2056 02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:31,720 Tye. Now I could have said yes, and I could have said no. 2057 02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:33,800 My father wasn't sure I would have gotten away with. So my father 2058 02:13:35,600 --> 02:13:37,760 writes a note to the school or calls to school and says that I skipped. 2059 02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:43,520 So I got pulled in and they said, uh, I got instead 2060 02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:46,479 of four nice attention, I got three. Oh, because because yourself. 2061 02:13:46,479 --> 02:13:50,560 Because my dad told those guys. They were like, we had two guys 2062 02:13:50,920 --> 02:13:54,399 and they were they were they were sort of laughing. I was like, 2063 02:13:54,479 --> 02:13:58,760 God, damn it. I never I could never. I mean, I 2064 02:14:00,399 --> 02:14:03,880 I skipped class a lot. I didn't get to skip the actual physical building. 2065 02:14:05,359 --> 02:14:07,680 So he's always getting busted with that. So have you ever heard of 2066 02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:11,359 an old fashioned switch. Yeah, okay, yeah, so for those of 2067 02:14:11,359 --> 02:14:13,840 you don't know, it's a long stick branch. Yeah. There, you 2068 02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:18,159 go out and get it right. So one day my father decided the only 2069 02:14:18,199 --> 02:14:22,119 time in his life, he decided to go hunting with his buddies in high 2070 02:14:22,119 --> 02:14:26,600 school. And my grandmother gets a phone call from the school. Hey, 2071 02:14:26,840 --> 02:14:30,439 why is why is butch out sick today? We see all his buddies out 2072 02:14:30,520 --> 02:14:35,159 sick too, Amico Casaro, Alico, all these others mafia cruise right. 2073 02:14:35,680 --> 02:14:39,000 She's oh, oh, okay, well I'll handle this when he gets home. 2074 02:14:39,079 --> 02:14:41,399 Don't you worry. So my father let you times its just right. 2075 02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:45,279 He comes in. After all, it was getting shot at because they had 2076 02:14:45,279 --> 02:14:46,720 no idea what they were doing out hunting, right, And he sees his 2077 02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:50,439 saxophone propped up in the core. He goes, oh, that's weird. 2078 02:14:50,680 --> 02:14:52,880 My grandmother goes. He goes, it was heavy because go play your saxophone. 2079 02:14:52,920 --> 02:14:54,880 Go practice your saxophone. I haven't heard you playing a while. Oh 2080 02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:58,199 sure, mom, no problem. He goes to open up the sacks. 2081 02:14:58,239 --> 02:15:03,439 She grabs the switch and just starts whipping the crop bottom did you skip school 2082 02:15:03,439 --> 02:15:07,720 to day? Starts whipping because I never felt so much pain in my life, 2083 02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:11,279 right you see that's where like maybe wee of all. I don't know 2084 02:15:11,399 --> 02:15:16,239 that you hit need to inflict pain like that. Some other pa did too. 2085 02:15:16,359 --> 02:15:18,800 I got hit, I got you get the belt. I got the 2086 02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:22,840 belt as a kid out yeah, oh yeah, all that stuff. I 2087 02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:26,079 once knew I was getting a spanking, and I put soft books in my 2088 02:15:26,399 --> 02:15:31,079 in my ass and another pair of jeans because it was like, I'm gonna 2089 02:15:31,119 --> 02:15:33,039 call you. When I call you, you come out here and you get 2090 02:15:33,119 --> 02:15:37,600 a spanking right now now Mark wants to watch. I was just gonna say 2091 02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:43,000 it. For Mark Hillman, it was always got a good story that he 2092 02:15:43,119 --> 02:15:48,039 does and thank you you do. Always a pleasure, great perspective for Kevin 2093 02:15:48,119 --> 02:15:50,319 Muir who did a great game for us that we still haven't played too. 2094 02:15:50,399 --> 02:15:54,199 Nice Dan Barillo, isn't all Bill's gear getting ready for the draft. I'm 2095 02:15:54,239 --> 02:16:01,680 Bill Moran wills seeing tomorrow finally husband m H.