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course and give a quick shout out to all of our listeners near a far
And not only we give them a quick shout out, but actually today is
about you, the listeners. Isn't that uh, where we're going with this
tonight? Yeah, we we have. We really appreciate everyone who gets in
touch with us, and so many really cool stories come come out of this.
So we thought we will turn it around. Rather than you listening to
us, well, in a way, you'll be listening to us listening to
you tonight. So yeah, So I want to start with putting out a
little a little search here tonight because someone sent me a story and want an
experience and added something very intriguing that I'm trying to find out about. In
I'll just read you what he wrote in nineteen seventy nine at Walt Whitman Junior
High School in Yonkers, New York. So if that rings a bell to
anybody, you know, pay extra attention. The teachers herded the students into
the auditorium so we could listen to a man dressed in Air Force blues tell
us that UFOs are real. It was a bizarre scene for a fourteen year
old. This man told us all about the reality of UFOs and how Bear
Mountain was the UFO hot spot of the world. He told us what to
do if we saw one. Who was this man and how was he allowed
to lecture to us has always been a mystery to me. Well, that
is a mystery in seventy nine, yea junior high school in an Air Force
you know, whether he's a listed man or an officer. I mean,
that's that's pretty wild. Yeah, And to think about it and pegging Bear
Mountain, which of course is in Harriman State Park, which is huge hot
spot over the generations. But did he come from Stuart Stewart Air Force Base
because Project Blue Book was there until it it ended in nineteen seventy Was he
doing this on his own? Was it official? I mean that a school
would be allowing that, Yeah, I don't know to be able to do
that in a school. Yeah, let alone to just come forward as a
military personnel. I mean, that's yeah. So I've been trying to do
some online digging. There is a Facebook page for Walt Whitman Junior High.
People. I tried to send the administrator a message. Haven't heard back.
But if you were in nineteen seventy nine or thereabouts, were at Walt Whitman
Junior High in Yonkers and know anything about this, I would love to hear
from you. Yeah, that's I mean, I'm looking. I want to
know what the deal is with this. Yeah, we didn't get We didn't
get assemblies like that when I was a kid. No, me neither.
I don't. Well, I remember some assemblies, but nothing like that.
Fun no, no. So um, So we are going to start with
you having a reading a good case. But before we jump into them,
maybe we should take our first break. Hudson River Radio dot Com Hudson River
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things off with a message from the listener. Game CRISP Pinels so I will
read that. Now, bear with me. It's a little long, and
I am going to reading this in my own voice. I don't know his
voice, so I can't. Yes, we don I need to put on
a sense or anything. So yeah, I'm not good at it anyway,
as we know. All right, So this is from Christ and it says
high. I live in Maine now, but I lived in Stormville, New
York for over twenty years, on the east Fishkill side, close to the
Lundington Road exit off eighty four. My mom and I were headed home from
grocery shopping at Shopwrite and Carmel one night and had made it to Milton Road
Milltown Road. I'm sorry it was dark out. I'm probably around nine pm
in the late eighties. We were coming up the hill approaching Ballard Pond when
we saw a massive disc the size of a football field, hovering completely silently,
directly over Ballard Pond. It was less than one hundred feet over the
water and we got a close look at it. My mother stopped the car
and we just stared at it for like ten to fifteen seconds. I'd heard
all the stories of backyards lighting up like daylight in the middle of the night
from neighbors and rumors of abductions in the lost time from books and word of
mouth. There was no Internet back then. I must have been ten or
eleven years old and just recall being terrified for that ten or fifteen seconds staring
at rows upon rows of bright white lights. My mother put the car in
reverse and peeled out in a driveway behind us, and we sped off.
I remember remember my mom saying holy shit, which wasn't a normal thing for
mom to say. Like ever, I went to Catholic school at Saint James
and Carmel, so my mother swearing maybe even more scary. We got home.
My dad didn't even believe us, which was beyond frustrating for me as
a ten year old kid. I slept in my parents' bed that night,
and in the morning it's all I could talk about. So my mom suggested
I call Stewart Air Force Base. So I did and was told it was
a group of planes flying information. My mother just said lies. Dad never
believes me until we saw another in broad daylight at a distance once again on
Milltown Road. I said, Dad, look what's that. He just said
nothing and just kept driving. Love your podcast. This will never ever leave
my memory until the day I die. I am forever impacted and saw what
I saw. No one will convince me otherwise. Ever, Mom would say
the same thing to this day. Thanks for the connection to others and relatable
content. Best wishes, Chris. I just love this account. Yeah,
first of all, Chris, thank you for sharing that that account with us
in our and everybody else listening to that. That's a fascinating story. Fascinating
account. Yeah, it really is. And it all goes to the visceral
impact of you know, he's terrified, never will forget it. And I
love the comment of his Catholic mother that I mean that really brings that,
really brings it to life. It shows what was going on with her as
well. It was a holiesque moment for sure. And I got in touch
with Chris and said, you know, is it okay to read this?
And he said yes, And he added that you know this, this had
such an impact on him that if he was in the neighborhood, you know,
visiting friends or something and it was getting dark, he said, I
would literally run home from neighborhood friends houses at night until I got my driver's
license. So those ten or fifteen seconds impacted the rest of his childhood.
Well, we didn't. I'm sorry he did not want to walk down the
street at night alone. Yeah, well don't we always we A very common
theme is this life altering experience people have, and you know, sometimes it's
a you know, life altering where it's an enlightenment they feel, you know,
they feel opened up to something new, and others it's a terrifying experience
that lives with them and never goes away. Either way, it's it seems
to really have an impact on that moment forward for the rest of their lives.
That's I think very consistent that we see people tell us all the time,
right, whether whether positive or negative, it is life altering, changing,
impacting. However, however you want to put it so, and that
area, I have to check out Milltown Road, I know, you know,
Carmel and that other area that he's talking about. But I'm not a
Luddingtonville Road and all of that. But I'm not specifically I should have looked
that up. The Milltown, Milltown m I L L t Own. So
it was such a hot spot in the eighties. You know, we've we've
repeated this over in any any given night of the week, there could be
hundreds or thousands of witnesses to these craft. So if anybody saw something in
that Ballard Pond area, you know, maybe we'll have listeners stories Your Stories
Part two. Yeah, that would be a great So hopefully our listeners if
even if they don't live there, maybe they have friends or family or are
familiar. I mean, it would be great to collect a few more accounts
and see is there a trend or a pattern and why yeah, you know,
what is it about that area? And the other thing I liked about
this is hovering within a hundred feet of the pond, specifically in at Duchess
Putnam County area and even in Rockland. These craft hovering over lakes, ponds,
the Hudson River itself, sometimes seeming to extract water or you know,
interacting with the water somehow. So um, yeah, just I wish I
had gotten this story before I finished the book of course, right and uh
yeah, And speaking of which, I really wish I had gotten this next
account. If we are ready to move on to the next story, yes,
I want to hear this one. Okay, So this was from Miriam
as I recently discovered your wonderful podcast and have been binge listening whenever I get
a chance. Well, thank you, Mariam. It's nice to be binged,
isn't it. Yes, she says. I'm a retired New Yorker still
living in Manhattan. In nineteen ninety seven, I was an outreach worker doing
street homeless outreach. We worked in pairs, driving a van all over the
city. One day in early summer ninety seven, my partner and I were
stuck in rush hour gridlock on ninth Avenue and approximately fifty fourth Street. It
was around six to seven pm, and we were headed for our break as
we worked the middle shift. And you and I are both painfully aware of
Manhattan gridlocks, especially in that particularly section of Yes, so people in the
other parts of the country you don't know track Well, maybe LA's I hear,
that's a huge parking lot, But downtown Manhattan gridlock, you know,
break out a good book and anyway, so she continues. As we're sitting
there, inching along, barely moving, we both suddenly noticed a very bright,
shiny object in the distance performing maneuvers no known aircraft could possibly perform.
It would have been about two miles distance, likely over Battery Park Wall Street
area. Very familiar with that. My brother lived in Battery Park for many
years, so you know, if you're in the city, you can visualize
this. You're around fifty fourth looking down to the battery. My partner was
a Vietnam Vet, familiar with aircraft, and he was as dumbfounded as I
was as we watched the strange light zig zagging, stopping dead on a dime,
hovering and reversing course left to right. As we watched, we saw
that it had changed direction and was heading our way. To this day,
I can't say how long it took. It seems to me that we'd barely
gone a block when there it was a dark gray triangle with rows of round
white lights and one much larger round light in the middle. I guess the
look on my face matched Perry's the wutf look. We stuck our heads out
our respective windows to get a better view as it glided silently by going north.
Wow. Wow. And you know one of the things skeptics say that
drives me up a wall is, Oh, it's only you know, hicks
hillbillies out in the mountain country. Who cufos? Really? How about midtown
Manhattan during rush hour, a massive silent triangle. So before we get into
the discussion of this, you know, just to point out it was silent.
It had three rows of lights in a V shape and then the one
large one which we hear all the time. With the triangles. It seemed
to be made of like a matt gray metal. And I love this.
Next to them in traffic was a woman in a red jeep with the top
off, and she stood up staring at this thing. And she Miriam described
her as laughing in a controlled hysteria. I mean, what a vivid picture.
Would I love to talk to this woman in the red jeep right standing
up barely barely, you know, I'm barely in control of herself, just
completely hysterical. And you know, Miriam's other question or big question is how
could no one else see this enormous craft? Well, I think they had
to clearly red jeep woman saw it. But what do you think of this
story? It is New York City, so it just looked up and said,
figures, that's the clause of traffic. You know, let's say,
slammed their fist on the dashboard. But you know, first of all,
I love her descriptions the description of the lights, but the Matt gray metal,
the attention to detail here is is really particularly fascinating to me. I
appreciate a good witness like this because it really paints that image so much more
deeply in the art than the mind. But it makes you wonder how did
no one else see it? Or did they see it? And I always
wonder that when you're in these very populated areas, is it selective? Can
certain people see them in certain people can't? I don't know. Yeah,
that's a good point. I think that's probably it. But you know,
we had three witnesses there, you know, Miriam, her her friend,
and the woman in the jeep. But I'm sure a lot more. But
you know, people didn't still don't know what to do when they have a
sighting. You know, there's the ridicule factors, so they'll keep quiet,
and even if they do want to report it, you call the police,
they'll hang up on you. You know, you call the local airport,
they'll say, you know, essentially get lost. So unless you know about
Moufon and New Fork or some local organization, you don't have any other way
to report it. So I would love, love, love if there are
any listeners out there who are in Manhattan in ninety seven, stuck in uh
ninth and fifty four or anywhere really from fifty fourth down to the battery.
But what does this say to the craft it? I mean, it's not
trying to stay hidden. No, that's another interesting concept to think about,
is why would you, I mean, unless you want to be seen.
Pick Manhattan Island on Russia Hour on any given day and people are going to
see, right. I mean, that's a great way to get attention.
So it either didn't care or it deliberately wanted to be seen. Yeah,
sou And you know, I guess I want to mention two is going back
to ninety seven. It was a different time in you know, with people
feeling the confidence to report these type of experiences. Looking back on that time,
I was in college, by the way, in this going to city
at the time, commuting, but I think early summer I would have been
out for the semester. Oh dude, you could have been there. I
know, why why don't always miss these things? But again, in ninety
seven, you know, someone like me was interested in this stuff, reading
books. It was still early internet. You still didn't have the World Wide
Web like we have it today, and people would have been much more reluctant,
you know, twenty five years ago or soda to report this stuff versus
today. If it happens, it'd probably be all over the internet. People,
oh share this. Yeah, if this was a twenty twenty three event,
every cell phone would be out the car window getting video of it.
Yeah. So yeah, if anybody saw that, and if if you know
somebody who's driving a red jeep in Manhattan around that time and it was a
woman asked her if she had any sight, because I just, I just,
I just I can see that so clearly, this woman standing up in
her jeep with the top off. You know, you've you've got jeeps and
you've you know, I can picture that standing up there, just in this
controlled, hysterical laughing. How do you process something like that? How has
she and how has this event affected her going forward? I mean, clearly,
to her was a much different experience than Miriam and the partner with right,
it's two very contrasting experiences. Yes, yes, um, two people
fascinated and one uh fascinated but not handling it so well? Right, Yeah,
I would I would like to hear from this person so if you're listening
or know who it might be, please please, please please get in touch
with you. Yeah, and I'm always interested in you know, Manhattan sightings.
Well we did them the Stonehenge apartment case, you know, right across
the Hudson River from Manhattan. Um. So yeah, it just fascinates me
to no end when you know, largest one of the largest cities in the
world has a Matt Gray triangle all lit up, you know, slowly silently
moving over and nothing, nothing is done, no pursuit planes. Uh,
probably nothing in the papers. Um, welcome to uphology. And how would
this have looked to the people working in the high rise buildings too? I
mean can you imagine looking out the window and seeing a triangle up in the
sky, yeah, or passing by your window or coming by. I mean
I just can't imagine. Yeah, you do it just like, um,
maybe I should go home now, I don't know. Well John Lennon,
Yeah, John Lennon's sighting was He's on the rooftop and it went right by
him, not much higher than his building. So it does happen. And
that was at the Dakota Hotel right where he had that. I believe it
was I believe it was that hotel. Yeah, so that's a um By
Central Park if I remember, yeah, yeah, right, Yeah, it
might have been a different apartment building. But you know, point being right,
he's on top of a building and this is is practically eye level with
him. So so I was gonna just tell you really quick, there's this,
you know, concept of hiding in plain site sometimes where sometimes the most
obvious thing you think everybody should see is the one that um that no one
does. Yeah, that's true too. So park keys do it all the
time, my wallet, my glasses. Yeah yeah, and it doesn't get
any better, but there is. But there is some truth to that about
hiding in plain sight. Sometimes the most obvious thing is the one that everybody
doesn't even bother to notice. Yeah, you know, you're if you're screaming
and cursing, uh, crawling through traffic and something's moving overhead you you might
not even look up right in Manhattan, you might just think it's a helicopter.
It's I don't I don't care what it is. I need to get
out of traffic. Huh, yeah exactly. So, well we have we
have a bunch of short ones. But why don't we take our second break
and come back to more listener your stories. This is Hundson River Radio dot
com, your local Rockland County station. This is Hudson River Radio dot Com.
Soar back here and um Lynton, I'm still processing this New York City
experience. Yeah, I just think about all the times I was in Lower
Manhattan commuting to and from the Bronx and never saw anything like that. I'm
not sure I would have been looking up. Yeah, now I'm you know,
oh yeah, the hundreds of hours I've spent driving in Manhattan. Um,
I've seen a lot of weird things, but they are terrestrial. Yes,
yeah, exactly. Um, but yeah, so you just it just
goes to show you never know when and where you could have a sighting.
You know, it could be broad daylight in Manhattan. You could be alone
on the top of a mountain somewhere. So keep those eyes open. Yeah.
I think that's probably the best point to make here, is that you
really can't predict where and when this might happen. You have to really be
open to it at any time. Yeah, yep, keep those cameras hands,
yes please. So March seventeenth, I had mentioned on my Hudson Valley
UFOs facebook page that the seventeenth, I think we did a whole show on
this is a popular day of the year for sightings. Yes, and got
a comment from Jenny. She says, I am up here on Lake Champlain
the last decade and I always see a lot of craft this time of year,
early morning hours over the lake. There's something about the twenty to thirty
five degree fahrenheit amperature that draws them here. And I kind of sat up
when I read that. I'm like, it is temperature a factor? I
don't, I don't know. That's excellent, excellent question. Is it something
about the phenomena that brings them out more or certain types at certain times?
You know, certainly there's a lot of winter sightings and their sightings all year
round. But I have to admit I have not considered temperature as a variable
in sightings reports. No one here we have the well, we have that
common theme of a lake. We do have a lot of these sightings are
over bodies of water, right, But it must be maybe it's specific to
this location around Lake Champlain that she noticed that this pattern emerges where around Mark
seventeenth or on March seventeenth, you know, around that time period when the
temperatures are right within this range is when there seems to be a lot more
activity. Is it specific, you know, is it something that applies to
all over? Is it specific to what's going on there? And what could
temperature maybe influence? I wonder if it has something to do whether the lake
is frozen or not. You know, if it's eight degrees and the lake
is frozen, and you know, we again this interaction with water coming in
and out of the water. Maybe it isn't so easy to come in and
out if it's frozen, right, But again twenty to thirty five and the
fact that she is cognizant of that range there, So I you know,
I don't have an answer. I'm just bringing this up because I'm curious what
everybody else thinks or experiences, or if anybody has any data on this.
It's certainly something. I love this when people write in because because you're always
going to learn something and maybe it has nothing to do with it, maybe
it has everything to do with it. So, you know, when you're
working on something that's essentially unknown, you grasp at every puzzle piece you can
you can get a hold of. Yeah, it's it's good practice, I
think, not to just outright dismiss anything that could potentially be, you know,
influencing what's going on, because we don't know. Yeah. So you
know, if you think something's irrelevant and we just say, ah, that's
not important, well we may have just thrown away the most important piece of
the puzzle that we needed because we didn't think it was important. So we
almost have to really, because it's such an unknown you have to be open
to everything. Yeah, and then work and then work from there. Yeah,
which is why I went full steam ahead into the animal reactions because it's
like, wait, we are throwing away valuable information here. These are highly
credible witnesses with senses we don't possess. So yeah, so now temperature is
on the table when when I'm interviewing witnesses and you know, reading reading other
cases. So all right, I have a few more I we're doing.
How are we doing on time? There? We're doing good? Yep.
Okay, So the Croton Reservoir over there in Putnam County. Again, all
roads, all UFO roads lead to Putnam at some point. But this woman
wrote that my dad, who is sixty eight now, was commuting back and
forth from White Plains to Putnam Valley, which I have to pause there as
somebody told me many years ago, and I kind of smissed Putnam Valley has
weird s going on. I was like, okay, boy, were they
right? But I digress. So he's commuting back and forth from White Plains
to Putnam Valley whilst while building our house. One day, while commuting southbound
on the Croton Bridge, my dad saw UFO. It seemed to just hover
over the reservoir. He said, cars were stopped on the Taconic State Parkway.
Everyone was awe struck. My dad is very subdued, a quiet introvert.
He never brings it up unless asked. The story sort of became family
folklore. Now that everyone has come forward, it all makes sense. The
dates line up to the nineteen eighty four sightings. He is very analytical in
nature, very matter of fact about the whole situation. So here we are
once again water, the Croton Reservoir, the Taconic. We just keep coming
back and back to these locations in the Hudson Valley. Yeah, I um.
I like. She mentioned that this person was going to ask for more
information, which I would love to hear. Yeah, Oh, I am
asking her for more information. Okay, yes, because I would love to
hear much more detail from what did he see? Right, I'm sure there's
much more he would he could tell us. Yeah, this is just the
tantalizing order. I would like to speak to him to get the details.
But you know, I've interviewed so many people and written about it and lectured
about it. People stopping on the Taconics, stopping and watching craft hovering over
the Croton. I don't know what it is about that Croton Reservoir, but
craft coming in and out of it or just hovering over it. And you
know, it's not a seven forty seven or formation of planes that makes people
pull over on the side of the road of dangerous highways and roadways and get
out and stand staring at all. It is something dramatic and life changing they're
looking at exactly, especially when they're seeing details and describing it's a triangle.
They're not looking at a bunch of small airplanes flying in formation. They're looking
at what they appears to be a triangle. You know, we have to
that the first story and we talked about with Stuart saying it's planes flying information,
I mean just yeah, or it's a massive disk with roads, white
lights spinning around. There's seeing something that they're describing in detail. They're not
just saying, Okay, I saw some weird lights in the sky, which
could be an airplane. Maybe it's a you don't recognize it, but when
you get into the details like that, it's hard to just dismiss it as
airplanes. And I think that's yeah, yep. It makes me cringe every
time I hear them do that. Oh please, what was that? Slowly
I turned from the old movie when yah, yeah, what was that?
Was that? Laurel and Hardy, Aben Costello? Maybe it was Abbott,
Oh maybe it was Abbott and Costello. Oh okay. So everybody's like,
you know, the younger crowd is like, who what is she talking about?
Costello? Who? Laurel and Costello? Yeah, part of the Mark's
sisters. Um, all right, so let's go on to Jody now is
saying I don't remember the exact date or year, but it was the mid
eighties and my best friend and I were walking around the block late at night
in the Spring Valley Moncey area, which was the next town over from where
I was living in the eighties. There was a craft hovering over us,
not much higher than the telephone pole, with lights going around and around underneath.
I just remember us looking at it, and the next thing I knew,
we were walking down the street. Well, isn't that interesting? Yeah?
What does that imply to you? I think they may have some missing
time that they're not we're aware of at the time. At least, I
don't know if they've ever looked back and said, wait a minute, I
might have missed some time here. Yeah, something was messing with their memory
for sure. If you're standing, you know, watching something. No,
you know, telephone poles are not very high, so something with spinning lights
the height of a telephone pole, and the next thing you know, Ladida,
we're walking down the street. Hey, what just happened? Very interesting
And actually the earliest abduction case I know from this area was from Spring Valley
in nineteen twenty nine. So, and she had a couple of other things.
She said in the late seventies, she saw something. I saw something
outside of my window when I was a kid. I didn't even know what
a UFO was, but I know whatever I saw, and that's in the
sky that night gave me chills. So not much in the details, but
we're getting oh one sighting is interesting too, are we? Are we getting
a pattern here with this individual the fact that she remembers this memory from the
late seventies, right, I mean that it was significant. She may not
recall the specific details of that or the why, but this definitely again,
there goes that lifelong. It's an ingrained memory. Yeah, so wonder what
else happened that night that she doesn't remember? Was right? Again? But
I do want to point out I was a kid in the late seventies,
and yeah, I was that kid that knew about UFOs. Sadly that was
me. No, that's why you're here today. Yes, And then she
had one other comment which just hit all the bells and whistles. Here.
My ex fiance and I were up at the Warwick Drive in approximately two thousand
and five, thereabouts a little further beyond the screen before the movie was coming
on, and just before twilight, there were about five objects dancing in the
sky. I remember being mesmerized staring at it, and all of a sudden,
and all of a sudden, he asked me if I was seeing what
he was seeing. Yep, they exist, so Warwick Drive in. I've
I've had so many different people tell me about sightings at the Warwick Drive in.
I've been to the Warwick Drive and so many times. I haven't had
a sighting there, but I do have a story. I don't know if
it was it was two thousand and five is kind of early, but I
think it was early two tens. I was giving a UFO lecture at the
Warwick Library. And as I'm leaving, you know, I'm packing. You
know, you give a lecture and you have to. Everybody's leaving and you're
packing up everything, getting ready to go, people start running in. There
was just a u f O over the library, really low, Like what
what? And by the time I got out, there was gone, And
I'm like, okay, so ay, the military knew I was giving a
talk and they're just messing with us all or b. The ets knew I
was giving a uf by oh talking, which is messing with I mean,
what are the chances of And many people saw it. I think it was
triangular, went right over the library. Um, that's that's too weird.
Did you ever consider that maybe they just wanted to get low enough because like,
hey, I think she's talking about it. Right, Hey, that's
a picture of you, Joe, that was me? Remember that was us
flying over that? Yeah, I mean that is quite an interesting coincidence.
Yeah yeah. So here again, here's another one with that Warwick uh drive
in. And I do want to point out that Preston Dennett, who's been
a guest on our show, has a book all about drive in sightings.
Yeah. So he's a good friend of us on our show, and I
hope definitely encourage people to get his books. I mean, yes, yeah,
And it makes sense because you're sitting out and you know, the dark
and a big open area, and you've got hundreds, if not thousands of
people sitting there watching a movie. What a great opportunity to see something going
on in the sky, right and you're you're probably gonna notice it because you
are looking up towards a screen. You're not looking straight ahead. You're probably
gonna be looking up a little bit from It's been a long time since I've
been to a drive in, but I love drive ins. I can't wait
for them to reopen. I go go back. But anyway, yeah,
so drive ins another another great place to suff So hopefully people Croton Reservoir,
Puntnam Valley, that Allard Pond, the Warwick Drive in if you're looking to
have a UFO experience, we probably could have termed this where to go to
view a UFO. Yeah, so all right, I have a couple more
if we're doing okay on time, little brief one. I actually did end
up including this in my book, but this was from Scott and he's talking
about while I'll just read this, the triangular craft with intense lights. He
was reading about something I had posted sounds similar to the craft I drove right
under outside of Bullville, New York, a number of years ago. Now
Bullville is a stone's throw from Pine Bush, I should point out, which
was also seen by many others that summer around Warwick, New York. We're
back to Warwick again. I wanted to take a picture. Okay, here
we go. Let me let me start that again. I wanted to take
a picture, but an overwhelming feeling of dread came over me. And I
don't scare easily, and I knew I should just get the hell out of
their a sap. Do you know how many times people have told me they
saw something They reach for their cell phone their camera, and something in their
head says, you can't take a picture. No, that's the last thing
you should do. You know, something terrifying comes over them and they stop
and don't take the picture. And later on they get home and they're like,
wait a minute, why didn't I take them? Yeah? I remember
this one lady. She's like, what the hell? I had my cell
phone in my hand, but there was this terror, horrible feeling. Don't
take a picture. What's up with that? Yeah? That? Um,
and I can't imagine. I mean, I've we've all been places where it
says no, no photography and you got your cell phone. You're like,
well, I want a picture of this, and you're only trying to be
as discreet as possible what you're probably not being, but um, you know,
you know, you get a little anxious, like, oh, you
know, I don't want to get caught doing this. Can you imagine feeling
that inside and not being in a place where you're not supposed to take photos
of just thinking oh, I should take a photo of this, this is
a something I don't know, and then getting that dread inside like no,
I really probably shouldn't do this. Um, how is that communicated exactly exactly.
Um, there is a definite fear response to all kinds of encounters sightings,
Um, you know, close encounters, seeing something moving, you know,
ahead of you, and it's it's irrational. It's irrational. There's no
good reason why you don't just snap a few pictures. I mean, you
can be scared of a lot of things and still take a picture of it
right right, you know. But yeah, So I wanted to include that
one because that is also a common thread. So I just have one last
one. And this was a nice handwritten letter. I still love getting handwritten
letters, so please po box one nine two, Blooming Grove, New York,
one O nine one four. I still very much enjoy getting handwrit because
this man wrote some. It made some great sketches. Really helps to visualize
a person's story. So this is from Allen from November nineteen sixty six in
New Jersey, Ramapo Mountains area, not too far from the Wanaque Reservoir,
which I don't know did we cover that. If we did not cover that
in the show, we have to I don't think we did, Okay,
so we'll have to do that. We may have mentioned it. January of
nineteen sixty six, one of the top mass sightings. So anyway, he's
in that area in living there in November. His parents' house is next to
his uncle's house along Skyline Drive, and he said, a fifty foot dark
disc with lights around the edges is slowly passing by. It was maybe a
thousand feet away on one hundred feet up. That is not high or an
aircraft going over you. And the lights on the edge of this craft illuminated
his uncle's roof. So a lot of times we hear there were these bright
lights, but it didn't light up the ground. This one specifically lit up
his uncle's house before before moving off, and he had another. He did
great sketch to help me visualize the direction of the craft. Five years later,
in nineteen seventy one, this same uncle, next to our uncle,
his son Mike, was back from Vietnam and liked to climb trees. Okay,
so I guess he was still dealing with things and felt comfortable going up
in trees, probably felt safer. But when he was up in one of
these trees by his house a truck. I have to describe this visually.
Here a triangle of balls of light, So picture if you're looking down at
bowling pins, you know the way they're formed, you know, in a
triangle, only a lot more bowling pins packed into that triangle. Balls of
light is moving again slowly. Oh. I don't know what it was about
this uncle's house, but again not too far from the Wanaque River, and
that whole area is also a hot spot. Two Air Force jets come after
this thing, and this triangular balls of lights instantly split apart and went in
all different directions. That's wow. Yeah. Uh right. Um, we've
heard of craft seeming to break into pieces, and you know, maybe all
travel together sometimes. But you can just picture these Air Air Force pilots all
right, we're gonna get this UFO this time, and and they all take
off and scatter like a herd of cats all over the place, and they
got bupp gets. Yeah. That puts an end to that chase. Yes,
so um yeah, So that's that's the selection. I I you know,
we would be here all night if I read everything everybody wrote in.
I just thought this was a good selection that had some cool talking points um
with them. But as they used to say, keep those cards and letters
to come right U and emails and texts and face book messages. But yeah,
I it's it's an opportunity to share your story on either, like I
said my Hudson Valley UFOs facebook page, you know, to comment on something,
you can email Mike and I m you can write to us. But
it helps other people to hear similar stories because they don't feel so alone.
And you know how many of these people would just absolutely love it if somebody,
you know, their story was shared by some other listener who then got
in touch with us. Yeah, absolutely, you know, yeah, so
there we haven't any other comments, no, I think, I mean,
I want to thank the listeners who did you know write in, who have
written in in the past, and if you're thinking about it, please do
I mean, and you have you have a captive audience amongst London. I
absolutely always happy to hear um, not just your experiences, but what do
you think also? You know, um, I'd love to hear what people
think about why you know, what do they think about the temperature? Yeah?
What are their ideas um? Or how come the UFO can be seen
over Manhattan Island and not a lot of people report it. I'd love to
hear what people think about this. You know what are your thoughts, what
are your you know, best guesses to some extent as to what's going on
here, right, and and that's what you and I do. We make
our best guesses based on you know, we may have more data data because
you know, we researched this a lot more, we spend a lot more
time on it, but ultimately we don't have the answers right. So we'd
love to hear what other people think. And if you enjoyed this episode hearing
you know other people's cases, let us know, because there is no lack
of material to do another episode like this sometime. Yeah, we would definitely
definitely something we may have to do again, So please let us know.
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