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tell me how you're doing. I'm great snacks. Welcome to grus Snacks there,
right, buddy, let's go how games making money? Um? Yeah,
I'm doing fantastic. I got to play some Voters game right before this.
I streamed a couple of hours of it. Yeah they got I think
they like they're onto something there. Me too. I've not played a couple
hours and played about an hour and was like, oh, now I get
it. This seems like something that could be very fun. Uh. I
think I probably do want to play as much as as possible, and multiplayer
I just don't. I mean, how do you do eighty hour RPG.
See, I want to do the opposite. I don't think I ever want
to play that Caveman multi player. I like the idea of um doing a
Dungeons and Dragons sort of thing in a very confined environment like this, where
um, you know, most of the fun is taken care of for us,
but then I can still get the campaign, you know, with friends,
campaigning with friends sort of energy by doing multiplayers. UM. Also just
seems like it's like they did a lot of work to make that interesting by
you being able to wherever you see what it's like. But I'm skeptical.
I'm skeptical that yeah, yeah, it's uh yeah, right, how does
that all work together? And does it actually is it that much more fun?
Or you know that the game is about the story and the characters,
so maybe it is all actually better by yourself, But I don't know.
Well, we'll talk a little bit more about that. We're gonna talk about
Nintinill making money, Quake two remaster possibly coming all that first though, do
you have something to say I didn't know about this Quake two remaster news.
Yeah, there's there's rumors out there. I'm not gonna sounds quite cons happening
soon? Isn't interesting? I think, I think it's happening soon. Yes,
and it's happening. Is it happening this month? That makes sense.
I saw there's a quake, con sale or something, so I assumed it
was happening. I think quick CON's happening like next week, I think.
But hey, hey, hey, we'll check on that real quick. This
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fun, all right. I have some big topics of the week I want
to discuss with you. Mike. Are you ready, mikey ready? Boulders
Gate three has a lot of people playing it right this very second when I
check before the show, right now, before the show, that we're doing
it was at about four hundred and forty thousand concurrent players on Steam. Games
don't do that, like like, there's a handful of games that do,
and they're the biggest games in the world. This game is doing that.
That is it's incomprehensible how successful this game is. Obviously a lot of it
is zeitgeist, but he just you can't manufacture this stuff. This sort of
thing just happens because it's get you know, a lot of bent pent up
demand, and it's it's giving people what they want, and it's also doing
it in a surprising way, in a bold way. And when you put
bear fucking in your game, that's just what happens, right, Yeah,
I think there's been a lot of hunger for one of these, Jeff,
we have, you know, think about the Dragon Age Freaks, right,
this isn't exactly like that, but for those people, this is probably the
closest they've gotten to that in a long time. Especially they don't want to
play. You know, We've had some other CRPGs lately that are probably looking
more traditional. Even this has that kind of triple a sheen to it that
I think it's just going to help it appeal to more people that stuff just
does I mean, and I played it for a couple hours right before this.
I was pretty shocked how good the production vetues are. I haven't tried
it an early access or anything. I was like, Oh, this is
like a much more of just a big triple A RPG that I was kind
of expecting. I thought maybe this would be the aim to get lost in
the shuffle of all these big games coming out. Nope, moving a little
bit was very smart because this is now just another chapter in what excuse me,
has been a ridiculously good year. Yeah, and it's this game feels
like it is going to hit all of the beats in terms of getting attention
at the right time. So here's its big launch on PC. It's hugely
successful. It's getting really good reviews or good word of mouth so far,
you know, when people haven't had enough time to play it for most reviews
to come out, but it's you know, people are positive about it.
And then all the excitement of it's selling really well is going to get those
people on PlayStation five excited. And when everyone is playing in Starfield, it's
going to launch that day on PS five and those PS five players are like,
well, I'll just play poulterers Gate three then and then it's going to
have another huge successful day, I bet. So this game is just prime
to crush and and it already is obviously, and you know, I think
a lot of it just seems earned. And boy, I think early access
is an unsung sort of hero in terms of getting games like this into a
strong Like Hades is the last one that was like, maybe not the last
one, last one that I can think of that just had a long early
access period, was very popular throughout that early access period, and then it
went one point zero and it just demolished and took over the entire world.
And I would be very happy if more games did exactly this. And I
think this game feels like the one that can convince more bigger games to actually
try that. I know some people are like, oh, you know,
moments it's triple a game and should just be finished when I play it.
Fuck that do this? This is great? Well, because I you know,
like I don't like I don't like early access, so I just didn't
play it. I touch just game in early access. But there's a lot
of people who are like happy to get that feedback or happy to like experience
throughout that and it's like they're going to do all the beta testing for you
and now there is a refined product. Yeah exactly. And you know it
also helped cause you know, so those are all people who have been buying
this game over the course of you know, the couple of years it's been
in early access or whatever it's been. That's part of why there is such
a big first day, I think, because they're already you know, it's
not like sales or this game went up today. There there's been some pre
orders a month before. People have been buying this game over the course of
years, and now they're all immediately jumping in and we can you know,
if if almost five hundred thousand people are playing at a given moment and the
game has already sold over a million copies, probably even two million at that
point, it's not like everybody who bought the game is playing it right now,
right, So yeah, all right, it's insane for this kind of
game, which you would think is pretty niche Yes, And like you would,
you would also think that those early access sales people be like, well,
yeah, I tried it an early access and so I'm not like rushing
to get back to it for the one point. Oh no, that didn't
rushing They are rushing back. Everyone wants to be here for day one,
whether they played it or not. And yeah, it's just it's a sign
that that early access I think is going to continue to grow. And you
know, fire Hair and Chet says man, I wouldn't mind it if this
is what it takes to get COT or remake off the ground, likeactly what
they should do, Like you're not worried about spoilers right now? Who cares?
Like God, they should have done that. Yeah, and they should
still try it, Like that is a very good idea for a game like
that, three years of early access like this game got for for code or
remake. Yeah, but I would that would I would just I would love
that. I would be very happy with that. If someone who's had really
good experiences with early access games like Dead Cells and others before Minecraft and Kurbel
Space program like it has always worked for me for the most part, and
when it doesn't, it's like okay, yeah, so what, I lost
a little bit of money on a game that I'd end up not liking.
That happens with finished games all the time, So so what um, I
mean this is also it feels like it is coming on the it's riding the
wave of Dungeons and Dragons being more popular than it's ever been. Clearly,
I think people people heard like, hey, this is a good way to
experience Dungeons and Dragons as a video game. It's like the most robust take
on that ever, and I think that's having an effect as well. What
do you think? Yeah, I mean, I know the movie wasn't a
bag it, but people did really like it. I don't was that movie
Forgotten Realms or is it something else? I don't know. I don't know.
I honestly, I don't know the difference between Forgotten don Realms is just
where I said, a very like a very popular setting that a lot of
D and D stuff takes place in. It was originally just some guys setting.
I think it ended up working at a Wizards the Coast or whatever it
is that does that stuff. So a lot of things, most of the
big stuff do you think of, was D and D Like Never Winter It
was definitely I mean, I know Never Winter was in it and they talked
about that, but I know the there you go then, Yeah, So
basically I think basically most of the mainstream D and D stuff takes place in
forgotten realms, which you know, makes sense. You have that kind of
unified setting and lore that you can work with. It makes a lot of
sense. I started watching that movie and I had a really good time,
and yeah, I sugar back and fan of shit. Yeah yeah. My
my one brother saw it and like the one who's even kind of less into
fantasy nerds stuff, and he actually seemed to like it a lot. I
like Chris Pratt just fine, So yeah, I should see that movie.
But no, I think you're right. You know, a lot of the
stuff that was probably really impenetrable for a lot lot of people, even in
the nineties. I think a lot of us are much more used to the
concept of rolling. Yeah, what's wrong, you said Pratt? And I
was like, I knew that was the right, but aptit care enough to
because it's so they're all Chris Is to us, They're all just Chrismas exactly,
Chris p Yeah, Chris PA was going to clap you, so I
was just trying to do it before claps No matter what I do, Yeah,
boomer take Oh. I thought to say, do you see Gary Witta
clap the people calling him boomer. I was like, hell yeah, Gary,
Hell yeah, we're on your side like that. Although if I staying
with you, that means I am a boomer because you're very old. Love
you, Gary, but it's like, yeah, I mean the movie did
okay, But I mean some of those D and D real play podcasts are
the biggest podcasts in the world. Critical Role is an industry unto itself,
so that stuff has penetrated the mainstream, and I think this game is benefiting
from it. People are like telling me I should do D and D.
While I was playing this, I was like, it's hard to get grouped.
Well, I think we one day maybe think about that. Yeah,
we definitely should. I think that would be uh, that would be fun
and maybe we could be something we could do with game masks. We could
do that with the Giant Bomb as well. Maybe that could work. Um,
I would really enjoy that. I have never liked hard to get a
group together. You have to find we got a serious dungeon master, right,
Oh yeah, for sure, exactly. We'll see something we'll think about.
But I'm very I am very impressed, just both with the success already
and with the quality of the game. Both really have exceeded my expectations.
I think this is going to be kind of kind of a big deal.
I don't think it's funny because like Pater's Gate was always a sort of kind
of a big deal in the nisos, this prestige thing, we all knew
about it. This seems like I think this is going to hit a lot
more people than even that did in its height. Who knows what that means.
Maybe Walter's Great Faked four might happen sooner rather than later. Maybe it's
when Dale's back on the menu, right, never winner all this stuff.
And maybe I'm getting too excited too early because it is just day one,
but boy, this seems like a really good day one. Yeah, and
it's like, I mean, we don't have to jump to what does this
mean next? But yeah, like you said, they could do the Iceman
Dale, never Winter Nights, all those things. But Larry and Larry and
the developer of this game, they came off Divinity Original Sin too, a
very similarly praised game, although you know that was never in the realm of
success this is having, although it was very successful, very successful for what
it was. Yeah, um, you know do they. It kind of
feels like the gravity of this is going to pull them into almost no matter
what, you're going to do a follow up the Boulder Skate three of some
kind. Well, right, and they've said they have already said they want
to go back to Divinity original sins And I get that that's their world,
of course, but it feels like the forgotten realms are going to come a
call in again at some point here. Yeah, and you know this is
um I think the kind of thing where they may have like a from software
are like like our here where you're like, yeah, we do we want
to go back and do our own thing, but maybe they will just grow
enough that they can kind of do both going forward. And uh, this
studio feels it does feel like the RPG King now they have and that was
a vacuum that has been left open by EA, EAS, BioWare and a
handful of other studios that just sort of like we're like, we're not going
to make those kinds of games anymore. And then it seems like a really
stupid decision and even more already did really fucking stupid. Yeah, I mean
I get that, you like, it's so easy to like, if we
just make this game, we sand off some of these edges and we make
it about shooting and all this stuff, it's going to appeal to this wider
audience. And it's like, man, you just don't go for the wider
audience, go for the horn of your audience, and just go for the
people who are just desperate for this kind of game. And here it is.
Turns out more than ever people are either curious or very into this kind
of game, and here we are. And you're right, a lot of
it comes down to high production values. You know, you start the game
after your character creator and you see like that long view and you're like,
oh, yeah, it's a top down and then you zoom in a little
bit. It's, oh, Matt, God, look at all the detail
here. This is like, this is an increasing amount of detail. Yeah,
I kind of wasn't expecting it, you know, just when you're talking
to Yeah. I liked the video originals in two, but it was still
very much always overhead, you know, character dialogue box is talking to That's
fine, I don't have a problem with it. But this is when you're
talking to people, it is suddenly much more like that Dragon Age style.
But you know, kind of looks better than Dragon Age ever did. Really,
so just really impressive, really really impressed. This year is just ridiculous.
Jeff Yep, I uh, it's it's gonna be a tough one.
Like listen, I think kind of Tears of the Kingdom is still surprisingly for
how strong this year is the shoe in for Game of the Year. But
figuring out what that top ten looks like, it's going to be exciting because
there's so many possibilities for very good games to be in that two, three,
four, five, six, seven slot and maybe you know, Walter's
Gate if it picks up momentum from this point, it very easily could be
the kind of thing where it's like, actually, no enough people love that
enough that it could knock Zelda off in a lot of a Game of the
Year. I mean the fact that this could like probably be up there,
and like the nominations at the Game Years for Game Awards for a Game of
the Year, that's at yep. Absolutely. There was then the Tendo earnings
report where they announced that the Switches at one hundred and thirty million units sold
and the Tiers of the Kingdom is at eighteen point five million copies sold and
that's in about two months, like a little bit under two months, very
impressive for both the Switch hardware sales were up sixty percent in Japan year over
year. They were down seven percent in the Americas. So it's like,
yeah, the hardware, and that's I think, Um, it was something
about Japan right now is just getting even more into the Switch than ever before.
That's happening with both tiers of the Kingdom. But also pick him and
four doing very well there. Yeah, are they having like what's the economic
situation in Japan right now? Is or Canny any kind of boost or something
happening over there? I mean no, not necessarily. There's um, you
know, the the yen has been very devalued, but that's that would that
means they have less purchasing power and yet they're still showing up for all these
Nintendo games. So honestly, I think it's I think it's beyond the economic
situation and it comes down to excitement about Nintendo is higher than ever. And
maybe it's the Mario movie, Like maybe people are just like maybe super into
Nintendo overall and it's manifesting across all these games. Could be that, but
man, let me gosh again. Pickman four the last couple of nights,
I've really been playing that and for some reason, like getting past all this
stuff in the demo and actually, sorry, I think playing that one off
stream. I don't know why that mattered. Really enjoying that now too.
Pickman four is really fun. It's really good. I'm really enjoying that loop.
It has so much of a I'll just do one more day kind of
a thing. I would just do this one more thing and then stuff to
like keep that interesting. And because there's always like, oh one more day,
now do one more of these things, it doesn't take as much time.
And it's it's it's fair. The people who are like video games aren't
goodnymore, such stupid assholes. It's the stupidest take you could possibly you know.
And I love retro gaming and I would be fine just playing games for
the rest of my life. I had to so many video games. There's
just coming in spite of everything, in spite of all this shit, like
how hard it is to make them, how problematic it can be sometimes like
every you know, all these challenges and we are still getting a year like
this. If you think that overall video games just aren't what they used to
be. Are bad. You are just a stupid asshole, yep. And
it's uh, it's very like it's annoying because a lot of that, there's
sentiment like that from all kinds of corners. But a lot of time,
a lot of times I'll hear from like doctor disrespects is like it's weird.
Yeah, oh you're you're you're like, you're getting bored. It's playing the
same shooters for forever. Like, honestly, look in the mirror. If
you're looking for someone to blame for that game. People started making games for
you, and here we are. But like, if you could just step
out of your damn comfort zone a little bit, there are so much amazing
stuff happening everywhere, to the point where like this year, it is happening
in every it feels like every single too, Like a battle bit is like
an interesting multiplayer shooter. And then you know, and then all these indie
games are being super successful and then Triple A games, I don't they rarely
have they been better like they have, Like we are lucky. I think
it's the best time to be playing video games. For sure. It has
been insane yea, Tiers of the Kingdom eighteen point five million copies sold.
That's very good. Yeah, I mean fantastic that you compare that to the
first party releases for any other platform. None of them sell that fast.
Just not a single one has a game that sells that fast. Spider Man
will come out and it'll sell faster than any other PlayStation game Spider Man two
later this year, it will not be at eighteen point five million copies in
two months. It won't even be close. So uh yeah, it's that's
just Zelda is one of these top tier franchises beyond anything else in gaming right
now, and Nintendo's really capitalizing on that. A few updates on the switch
too, and let's not like let's start like a little warning here. I
listened to Nate the Hates podcast where these rumors are coming from. He said,
this is informed speculation, nothing confirmed, but he's heard rumors murmuring.
He says, whispers, industry whispers, which I know what he means by
that, and it's like stuff you can't confirm, Like that's just what that
means. And I know what. I've kind of heard something similar, but
nothing like the details that he has of the screen, that LCD screen that's
not an old being eight inches instead of like I think the seven point five
or seven inches that the old switches. And then it will have five hundred
and twelve gigabytes of internal storage, not an SSD, it'll be flash storage,
so e MMC, which is kind of what like the steam the base
steam deck has, which is actually surprising fast these days, if you get
a fast enough CPU to process that stuff. Um, how's that signed?
You? Sound of you? Mike? It sounds about right. I mean,
you know, I'm not shocked. It's uh, it would be nice
to have an SSD in there, nice to have an all let the screen
being a little bigger, fine whatever, Uh yeah, that's fine. That's
none of the stuff I'm really really expecting or opinning by hopes on. So
much of it is just kind of what's the what's the CPU and GPU going
to be like? What is what are the quality of the game's gonna look
like? What? What's it going to be comparable too? Is comparable to
place you should for? Places you shouldn't for? Plus what did they call
that shit place? Bro? Bro? Yes? Yes, you know,
So that's that's all I want to just want my games to look at bit
better and to run a bit better. That's practically all I need from the
new switch. More storage. Sure SSD not shocked that that's something they're probably
gonna make us this time. I want there will be like the switch to
BRO and it will do this shit like well, you know, not just
the lip but the and an SSD altogether. Here. Yeah, it feels
like, um, you're right this generation they'll introduce some fast storage option at
some point. But it does sound like they are picking and choosing their battles
with where they're going to spend the budget of manufacturing this console. Um so
pulling back from the old ED to save some money using flash storage instead of
SSD, but making that bigger, um and get it. You know,
they're not you know, they have to make something that is going to they
can't make anything. It's gonna cost probably more than four hundred dollars. They
can't get away with that, probably, I mean can get away with it.
You think four fifty maybe maybe it's probably four hundred. You're probably probably
four hundred. It's probably gonna be four hundred because it's you know what they
got to o edit three fifty. So four hundred. It's going to be
four hundred, at least four hundred, but probably four hundred. I mean,
they don't want a three DS repeat right where you have the successor to
your really popular console, but it's a lot more expensive than that one ever
was. That can really throw people off exactly. So it's like, you
know, you got to balance all these things out. But if the bulk
of that four hundred dollars goes towards the really good performance for what it is,
most people are going to be Okay, this is fine. That actually
is the most important thing. We want. Nintendo games that rob run it's
sixty frames per second, and then the most three the third party games kind
of getting pretty close to that. Like that's where I think people want the
switch to be going forward. Um, all right, there's an Oblivion remake
rumor out there. They're going to remake Oblivion. I you know, in
terms of remakes, I think this one makes a lot of sense. It
is in that butter zone of it's not so old you have to redo everything.
And that's one of the things about this rumor is they wouldn't redo the
physics or anything necessarily. Maybe they'll spruce it up, but they're going to
use the original creation engine too. I can't remember what the what the Bethest
engine is called, but the physics and the gameplay interactions would come from that,
and then they would redo the visuals in Unreal Engine and sort of pair
those things up together. And you could do that with something that isn't quite
as old as some other stuff. Oblivion is kind of right there on the
cusp where you can get away with that, and I personally would really like
that. I love Oblivion, Mike, So I hope this is true,
and I hope that we're playing this in the next couple of years. Oblivian
is a great game, and it really does just need a bit of polish,
especially you know, graphically, character models, stuff like that. But
otherwise there's a lot to really like in Oblivion. I think it's story is
better than Skyrim. I think it's questionnairetives were generally better than in Skyramion,
even though I do like Skyrim a lot. Yeah, they is. I
do hope they go back tomorrow when at some point, just because that's when
I actually haven't played much of so I'd like an excuse to sort of be
able to play that on modern stuff and have it looking a little spiffier and
all that stuff. Yeah, same, And I think that probably won't happen
right away, but maybe they get to that eventually. I think the much
more likely path is they do Oblivion and then fall Out three and then fall
Out four and in Vegas and then Skyrim probably actually does get a full remake.
Question. Yeah, but probably the time you're right, yeah, right,
at some point that's going to be like a twenty year old game,
The Lincoln. That's going to happen. Yep, exactly, so, but
you know, at some point in there, it's like, Okay, let's
figure out how to do this with Morrow and as well. And I hope
they do because that one deserves it as well. It's just it would we
see that it's a lot of extra work on top of all this other stuff.
Um finally, Quake two remasters rumored to come out August eleventh. I
think Bill Bill Kuhne, that leaker on Twitter is responsible for this one.
That would be fantastic. They did it at Quake one remaster. Machine Games
worked on that. Machine Games is rumored to be working on a first person
shooter that it's got to be probably Quake two remaster, if not a whole
new Quake, which maybe that could get announced too, but at the very
least I expect Quake to remaster to get an anounced and shadow dropped, probably
with the Quake Con, which I'm gonna double check. I probably that must
be happening if that's coming out August, right, And I mean night I've
also worked on I think night Thine was like the main developer on the Quake
one game sort of contributed a new campaign exactly right, Yes, that's what
it was. Um boy, I hope. So is this is during Quake
Con by the way, Okay, yeah, so it makes sense it's for
a shadow drop. I mean, you did Quake one, why not do
Quake two. Quake two is such a that was such an interesting game because
that was the game back then. That was what we were all testing,
the graphic cards of the day on the Voodoo two and stuff like that.
You want that transparent water, Yeah, yeah, exactly, because I mean
it was, you know, an all polygon game, and it was one
of the first ones of like quick you know, the actual free mouse look
everywhere and all that stuff. It's interesting too because it's very different from Quake
one in a lot of ways, like Quake one has that kind of a
cult stuff going on, quite too pure sci fi from what I remember,
kind of what Quake would go into in the future of stuff like Quake three,
Rin, I would love an excuse to play Quake two again. See
it's bruced up. I'd be very excited for that. I hope this is
true. Uh okay, I think I does it for the news. I
wanted to discuss. But Mike, we got a bunch of super chats,
so people wanted to bring their own stuff to the show. So let's let's
hop into those real quick, and then we'll take a break and get to
our topic of the week. Yeah, I'm a I'm a I'm a recal.
I'm gonna recall that's on right. Let's see America, Ali Maricle,
All miracle sounds way better. Back from fan Fest if Facy fourteen, Margarita,
though, baby, h hope you had fun. I'm jealous. Yeah,
I'm sure, I'm excited. It's something for me to look forward to
next year already. You we're gonna try to go to the fan Fest.
Vegas is always fun. I would love to go. I mean, they
do it in different places. I might not even be in this country next
time, you know you kind of do want to go when they're going to
announce the expansion. I guess sure. Probably the next time that there's a
big one in the US, I will be able to go. That's my
hope. That's my hope. Very cool. Stefan Ries says, pick Ma
Naughty and grubbers Gate. Oh I like that, like the ant that's pretty
good. GameCube one eighty says what's the best game? What's the best game
to play while getting over a breakup? Uh, Tony Hawks pro Skater two
because that's soundtrack. It's just gonna make you feel better. Yeah, something
very mechanical focus in the you know not. Yeah, don't play a game
with romance like that. Definite. Dan Park says, Oh no, I
wonder what it could have been a lot of things we did. Oh yeah,
just the show in general. Oh no. Bailey from this says,
Mike, could you prefer the wind Waker GameCube or HD? Guy, It's
like you's been a while since I played the GameCube version. I think HD
just because the faster sale is pretty nice, Like I do like him.
I liked the ceiling I never had a problem with it, but going a
little bit faster, it's good. That's cool. Yeah, maybe somethday I'll
boot up the GameCube version again, even FUNcube now shut up, Baba as
Me says, impressed by Mike's ability to carry a whole show tune all by
himself, irrespective of the interests of anyone else to join in. Thanks for
he only cares about entertaining himself, like that is, that's what matters.
And yeah, so no no issue there. Ever, Washington set their first
Trooper super Chat. No message here, but thank you so much, Washington.
ANTONIONI says, if you had to put money on it, what is
your bet on what Nintendo names the follow up to the switch money on it?
Um? So I think it probably does use the switch I IP that
switch name because like, let's just look at Nintendo's history. Uh, Nintendo
Entertainment System, Super Nintendo Entertainment System. Uh but uh it wasn't ending a
hit Gameboy Game Boy Color DS three Dsum we you they have a giant hit.
They carried over at least one more generation exactly, so switch to they
probably wouldn't do a number. But like, if I had to like put
money on it, like Super Nintendo, Switch is probably not going to be
it, although I would love that. I think it's just gonna be Switched
Too. I know they normally wouldn't do a number, but I think they're
so afraid of getting too creative with WEU that they want to be as clear
as possible. That's why this is exactly my reason for if I had to
take my own money and bet it on it, like that is the most
logical thing I can think of, even thoughing Nintendo is it the most logical
company, I couldn't help. That's what I would have to bet on.
So Switch Too is my bet, and that's not I'm not confident about that,
but that's my bet. Oh Grog says. Did Mike ever play that
Disney Illusion Island game that just came out or is he dis He not playing
Found Fantasy sixteen? Not yet, because I want to play it with my
brothers. I want to do like the local co op thing, so I'm
waiting until we have a chance to all really sit down. But a bunch
of it. He did play it at the Magic Kingdom, that's right.
Yeah, well at disney Land Park, which is called a Magic Kingdom.
But not like proper now and like the Florida Magic Kata, no one cares.
Oh Jesus, christ Cody Clement said, welcome to the besties. I
know what the best game is right now? All right, steps kind of
the best game of the week. Hi, I'm Mike Manadi, and I
know the best game. Tam got to be on the best He's once I
was jealous, but he probably actually knows those people. Chris knows us.
We can't invite you like a Kid and Christa and I'll just sit over there.
Hey, I mentioned you on there? So did I tickled my fancy
very much? Steph Tendo says, oh yeah, I did want to.
I did want to tease you a little bit for being on Kid and Christa,
not once plugging your Nintendo podcast. But sure, I'm pretty stupid about
that. Felt good. Step Tendo says. Top six games that could be
nominated for Game of the Year twenty twenty three, Okay, right now,
the six games that I think will be the biggest contenders are Zetta, Street
Fighter, Resident Evil Orders Gate. Already I think I'm gonna say that,
Um God, shut me out. I'm Diablo, like Diablo Final Fantasy I'm
kind of like, I'm how do you about a Dead Space remake? Probably
not too busy, too crowded. Okay, So for games that haven't come
out yet, Allen Wick two, well, for games that how many come
out? The only one that I feel and I'm feeling like real probably is
Starfield. I hope Allen Wake two. I'm really excited for it, hope
it delivers. But yeah, Starfield seems pretty lucky. I want, oh
pick maybe pick it four, maybe pick yeah, picking four for me for
sure. But it's always gonna be tough. Oh god, I am kind
of I am kind of forgetting about High Fight, Rush about rush it Probably
it probably makes that six cut for the games that have come out so far,
maybe yeah. If it's the games that come out so far, I
think it makes the six cut. Uh yeah, absolutely, O god,
we still have Armed Acre Spider Man too. I think I think Spider Man
two. I wonder if it's gonna get for as much stuff. I mean,
I don't get nominated for the Game Awards game Oh yeah, yeah,
it'll get nominated for that. But Insomniak is as the bridesmaid, never the
bride. They even even among PlayStation fan I was listening to kind of funny
talk about this a bunch of big PlayStation fans over there, and they're just
like, no, it's goods, you know, it doesn't have what it
takes to be game of the year. The insomniak like Spider Man games.
I'm like, what the like, I know what they're saying, because the
Spider Man didn't win Game of the Year. It was a great game,
and it was like, no, no, God of War it's a game
of the year. Spider Man's just and I think that was the same year,
right, So um, it's it's weird, but I kind of get
it. But for me, I like Spider Man way more than any of
those other Right, that's the thing, Like, you know, like I
liked God of War Ragnarok, but I feel like, you know, and
I guess it's about kind of flight specifically, but them and are people like
were Google Gaga for that? But yes, like, well, Spider Man
is not quite there really or like even more crazy to be Ratchett and Clink.
Rift Apart isn't there. I actually don't know exactly how they felt about
Rift Apartment, but part generally that's how people feel and that this crazy to
me. Ripped apart to me is so obviously like the best exclusive we had
to place it, except for maybe Astro. Maybe I just like three D
platforms. Actually, maybe that's just what it is. Ye uh okay.
Next one here is from Big Fresh Story seven says I demand public Crow eating
the Swiss of Metal show turned out amazing. I've heard people are surprised by
how good it is. I haven't. I don't know if I've heard amazing,
but I haven't. You know me, I don't exactly have my ear
to the ground on team. I think it's amazing that it's this good,
that's for sure. He's absolutely right, They're They're absolutely right. I should
eat Crow. And this is why I just shouldn't talk about ship before.
It sound like, here's the reality. I talked so much shit about it.
I feel obligated to watch it now and I don't care. I don't
watch for I never cared if it was good or bad. I should have
just shutted the fuck up, but I opened my mouth on a goddamn podcast
like this will be a fun thing to make fun, just a worry that's
good, And then here I am, and it's like everyone like brit it's
a colleague peacemaker. It's pretty good, am I a fuck me and everyone's
defense? They picked the terrible clip to show at Summer Game Fest, Like
that clip was terrible. Yeah, one chance say it previewed like a two
out of seven. It came out it's like a seven out of ten.
That sounds about right to me. Here you go, I'm good for them,
good for them. I hope this means good things for that franchise.
Willow David says, Mike, Sorry, the GameCube reddit was boomerie. I
just bought a game cube since my brother sold us back when we got a
Wii. And it has the digital output. Oh, very very very nice.
That's what you want, Yeah, is mod console or um. So
I think what he means is the at some point they stopped doing the including
the one output. Thane, I can't component cable or whatever it is,
the component output like the newer models of it didn't have that. So you
don't want those GameCubes, okay as much, but yeah, man, that
that can't keep sub reddit. It's just it is. It's to say somebody
who could played about being called boober. It is so boober. It's a
lot of people basically asking other people to google things. I guess it's worth
anything, you know, stuff like that. Oh that's good stuff. Ecto
Cool says, what is the best Disney game ever? Mike, Okay,
so like not counting Kingdom Hearts. Uh, probably any duck Tailstvolution is very
good as those question cast solution. It's probably a better game than the Quackshot,
but my heart is more with Quackshots. A lot of Duc Duc tells
is so much fun. Gosh, I love that duck Tails game. Incredible
soundtrack to um Atric quests. Good Chip Rescue Rangers also good. You know
chests, got a lot of them. But get that. If you can
get that. It still bums me out that they never took that Disney After
New collection to switch. It's on everything else. But ye, and that's
always fun. But uh yeah, yeah it should be a collection. That's
weird. John Drakes Roman, Yeah maybe maybe they just don't know. May
if I bug John Drake about Yeah, that's what you need to do it,
you're just doing a service there. Yeah, that's just me being kind.
Actually. Portable Lesion is also a favorite of mine. JKK yep Um
and every Now that's it. That's it for now. Guys, if you
want to send more super chats, but by the way, thank you so
much for all the super chats so far. If you want to send more,
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Yep. And if you have anything you want to discuss, that's the best
way to get it discussed on the show. Okay, we're gonna take a
quick break. When we come back, we're gonna discuss the best games of
nineteen ninety seven. Me and Mike are gonna put together a list with your
help. If you're a podcast producer again, if you want to drop a
super chat, you can have your say as well. Okay, we'll be
right back after this, and we're back. We are gonna do the top
games of nineteen ninety seven. We've done nineteen nineteen ninety six so far,
um picking Corona, Trigger Yoshi's Island in Donkey Kong Country two for ninety five
and then ninety six. Obviously Super Mario sixty four and Wave Ray sixty four.
There were some other games. We're gonna do this again for nineteen ninety
seven. MICUs is a pretty good year for games. Yeah, it's pretty
good year. I think we all know ninety eight is the real way year.
We don't know about nineteen ninety eight, and that's gonna be wacky,
but there's some fun stuff happening here. We are a bit further into this
new generation at the time with PlayStation Nintendo sixty four, so we got some
stuff popping off, especially in PlayStation. I think PlayStation is really coming into
its own now. Yes, there were some good, good games on PlayStation
in sixty four. We're still having a handful of droughts throughout ninety seven.
I remember there's some big games, there's some there are, but it's definitely
PlayStation coming into its own. Some great stuff happened on PC as well.
Where do you want to start for nineteen ninety seven, Mike, Yeah,
I think kind of the big one for me is going to be Final Fantasy
seven. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. This is the one that that
felt like a big deal at the time. Honestly still the most mainstream turn
based RPGs ever felt on my lifetime. Everybody was playing Found Fancy seven,
it felt like because you know, it was at a point where I think
you were able to make something like a turn based RPG suddenly had be like
the best looking game ever. I think Squaring extumbled upon some tricks with using
full motion video and like putting police on the top of that to do things
that really weren't possible and a lot of our games or even in a lot
of other genres. Right, So there's just some really stunning stuff at the
time. And on top of that, you had a lot of really memorable
characters, a really neat setting. They went way more sci fi cyer punk,
especially in the beginning Midguards are really striking location just in general, a
lot of memorable characters, another incredible soundtrack too. There's just a mistake about
this game. It's like it was like huge zekegeist. Everybody was playing it.
Yeah, it's uh right, a mystique and and just uh, the
cultural zekegeist, the way it captured everything. Um I just in that marketing
campaign felt so inescapable and important and it was yeah, and you're right,
it was like the time where I was like, oh, turn based RPGs
from Japan are just a big, huge, important thing of gaming and always
will be is how I felt. And uh, and then it turned out
that wasn't true, but it definitely felt like it could have happened, you
know, had we been on like some slightly alternate history or something like that.
Uh, Final Fantasy seven the peak of that and and yeah, it's
I mean before this, they were like, you know, Squarres did things
like or Square did things like We're just not gonna released on Fantasy five in
the US. Who cares? Right after Fancy seven. That was never gonna
happen again, that's right. Yes, Uh, it's like it was so
like just it penetrated cultures so much that's like, oh, you know what,
we were just gonna call it seven and because you know that's what it's
called in Japan, and we're gonna unify the numbering scheme because used to six
used to be three in America. And it's like, well, no,
this is we don't care anymore. You need to know that this is a
long running franchise and this is a big deal, and we're going to teach
you the right numbers because you just need to learn it, because that's how
big a deal, big of a deal this is. So yeah, Final
Fantasy seven on the list almost certainly. Yeah. I do want to say
that Tactics came out in Japan nenty seven, but not in the US to
ninety eight. We are doing US release dates, so gonna be tough for
tactics. Sorry, yeah, I want to add and I can't. I
think this is ninety seven in America Castlevania Symphony of the Night that is almost
certainly ninety seven the US. Yes it is in whoo boy. Yeah that's
a very good game. Yes it is. It's um it's one of those
it's like in the like that. First for a little bit, it was
like maybe a little undersung because some people are like two D. But it's
like that lasted for a month and then people were like, oh, actually
nope, this rules, this rules. We should ever I'll be talking about
this. This is great and Castlevania simply a night Quickly you kind of took
on like another awesome thing happening on PlayStation. Uh yeah I love this game.
Yeah, just really great looking two D art and again, fantastic music.
Again doing like a like sparing but smart use of polygons at time,
like the save room and things like that, so you know, it looks
really cool. The kind of fun twist where you know, unlocking the good
ending isn't just a longer cut scene. It's like a whole like second half
of the game that you get with the upside down castle Outlookard is a cool
character. Just yeah, adding you know, kind of looking at Castlevania too
again for inspiration, which like as a game that had problems and really smoothing
out those edges and turning that into an experience that just worked so well that
you know, you know, we had metroids before, we had other games
like that. This is really where metroid Vania comes from. This is the
Vanya part of Metroidvania. Yep. Then it's like, uh, I mean,
I like Castalvania sympth of the Night right away. But it's like as
soon as you start like getting those RPG elements and you see your character growing,
you're right, that is sounds good, yep, And it's like that
defines gaming from that point forward, those RPG molements in every game. It's
like, oh, I if it can work in Castlevania, it can work
in anything. And that was right, And honestly most games don't even don't
even do it as well as Symphony of the Night did. Like it's still
a stellar example of what those what those mechanics can be like in a game
like that, all right, I think next up I am going to I
think those are really good locks. Yeah, I want to bring this up,
and maybe let's talking about me. Why I don't want on it because
it's a very big game. Yeah, that's fine out this year. Yeah,
Goling and I double seven came out in nineteen ninety seven, which again,
and I know I just said a crap about how FOP with SY seven
was this big zeitgeist absolutely true for gold and I also it was a huge,
huge deal. Yeah, and it's I mean, for me that year,
Golden I would have been my game of the year without even without question,
But it just hasn't aged well enough for me to feel good about putting
on a top ten or top five. Now all these years later, I
don't really enjoy playing Golden Eye Double O seven anymore. And I think that
I should still enjoy playing the game, playing a game if we're going to
put it on this list. I think that's kind of a good rule to
abide by. It's definitely an important, an important game, and it was.
Yeah, it was huge. It was so popular and it sold so
well, and it just like it was the thing that really drove the n
sixty four at least in the America's through nineteen ninety seven for sure. So
yeah, an important game. I will add it up here. But let
me let me give you the kind of in the town sixty four game from
this year that I actually do care about more, and that's star Fox sixty
four. Sure, this was actually one of my favorite games for that console.
I think it was basically just the remake of the original Star Fox,
but that's a game that really benefited from the jump in hardware. They added
a lot of personality with the voice the characters. You know, usually the
talking head things is annoying, but it works really well in this game.
The different paths you could take the rumble. Remember this is the rumble pad
game, and now we still have our controls are still shaking like crazy to
this day, and that kind of started here. I have a lot,
I have a lot of funness for star Fox sixty four. Actually, yeah,
I mean I think this is the Star Fox game. So it's actually
even though its yep, and I feel good about that, uh making the
cut, I have it up there, let's let's keep there. Yeah,
I um, it's one that it's like easy to go back to and play
and keep enjoying. And it was really really cool at the time for sure.
And it uh, I think they'd showed like, okay, like they
were they weren't faking the Polygons on the Superintendent with the super X two chip,
but it's like they were barely scraping by with that frame, right.
It's it was nice to get something a little bit better in every single way
on the n sixty four and Star Fox sixty four. Is it's a classic,
it really is. Um, I uh, it's it's it's tough because
I mean, I'm trying to like, there's obviously some other ones. I
think I'll get to this one next probably, but um trying to think,
are there any other in sixty four games worth considering? I think Mario Kart
sixty's that there's one I was thinking about. But it is Mario Kart sixty
four this year, I mean, I can't remember. I'm like, I'm
trying to see Mario Kart sixty four was nineteen ninety seven in the US.
Look at that it was ninety six in Japan, So yeah, Mario Kart
sixty four would count. Um God again, gosh, I really am becoming
the Town sixty four hater. I swear I'm not. Actually I don't.
I don't. I don't harbor a lot of love for Mario Kart sixty four
anymore. Um, it was, it was fun at the time. I
think it quickly got equipped a quip who eclipsed, get equipped, got equipped,
get equipped. It quickly got eclipsed by Double Dash, and then by
seven and yeah game and eight. Yeah, all of them are better,
I think for the most part. So yeah, I'll write it up there,
but I think it's gonna have a hard time making the cut. I
do think Blastcore came out the year, and I like, that's what I
was gonna say, Like, that's like the other one I have a sauce
about for. I don't know if it's really quite substantial enough to make it
on here, but that's yeah, definitely maybe one of the most interesting games
of that year. Uh, one of the ones that felt the most original.
I'm definitely writing it up there for consideration, but it will Yes,
we'll see, we'll see. Maybe maybe maybe it's SUPs into five. Maybe
we'll see. All right, there is a really big Mikey game that came
out this year that I am going to probably insist upon sure, and that
is the curse of Monkey Island. Yes, I just thought this might happen.
There is such a short period of time that existed where we got games
like this, these point of click adventure games with just the hand drawn art
right like and like looking like a cartoon. It's so pops up every now
and then. But basically there's a short period time where we could do this
because the CDs and then everybody was like, no, we're doing three D
instead, And this brief little window we got this absolute treasure of fun and
adventure and really neat puzzles and beautiful locations and the credible voice acting in music.
This was God. This was a pretty early Aventure game. My first
one was Day of the Tentacle, and then right after that I played Chris
and Muckey Island, and after that I just kind of went hand with the
whole genre, especially all of the Lucas Arts stuff. Love Chris and Mucky
Out and I replayed it again just last year in the Build It to Return.
Still my favorite in the series. Love this game. Uh yes.
I as soon as I saw that came out in ninety seven, I was
like, well, that'll that'll be up there for sure. Um, I
think we probably should put Quake two on this list. Quake two came out
nineteen ninety seven. Quake two is a very good game. I think it
improves on Quake one and just about every way. Although you know, Quick
one may be more important, I guess, but Quake two is still very
very sport centering because it is also it is still very important. It is
it's god things. We're moving so fast at this point because just the next
year you're going to get Half Life, which is a pretty big leap.
Not not necessarily in terms of the tech, although a bit, but just
in the presentation these games, it's quite two is still very much from what
I remember, it's been a little bit in that doom style of wandering around,
finding keys, opening doors and that kind of thing, but it was
it was certainly a big deal at the time. Might make the list or
some other ones. Maybe just also be considering here an important game. I
don't know if either of us have a whole lot of love for it.
How we think it like ages now, but Ultima Online was in nineteen ninety
seven. Yeah, it's important. I just don't know if I can argue
for it to be on the list. I never played it and never had
much interest in it. Yeah, at the time, it was neat.
There's a it's it is a lot, right, and I think you know
they're starting with ultimon line. We slowly and slowly kind of found a balance
of making this stuff more accessible until we got toward a whircraft which should a
trick. Ever quest a big step in that direction as well, for sure.
You know, there's two Mega Man games that came out this year.
Mega Man eight, which I liked a lot of time and still like,
but not one of the better Mega Mans, but then Mega Man X four
Mega Man X four, which absolutely is one of the better Megan Man games,
probably got definitely the best. The only other game in the X series
that I really love, aside from the original is X four is the first
one where you have the two separate campaigns for Mega Man X and for zero.
It has once again kind of has the so bad it's good voice acting,
really cool uh enemies. Yeah. X four is kind of where the
series peaked, and then they made like four more anyways, and none of
them were ever remotely as good as this. Again, I like Rock the
Dinosaur Hunter. I'm not gonna put it up considered probably not good enough.
It's fun, but it's not good enough. The game that I probably would
put up is Grand Turismo one. Uh. I like that game, but
it's another one where it's like, I just, um, I don't hold
a torch for it these days. No, probably not. I think even
Grand Turisma two is you know that's what happened at some point. That's even
that's even better. Definitely. Yes, Yeah, they're important game. There's
a lot of important games in this year, that's for sure, but we
gotta have the luxury picking the ones we lot oh want a bit more.
You pretty much spat in my face when I suggested crash Bandicoot won the last
time I have any better like Crash Bandicoot two. Cortex strikes back this time.
I mean I've played one in three a bunch because I was like trying
to like figure out it's pretty similar to this. Yeah, listen, I
do. I really do not think they're very good games. I think Crash
Bandicoot is a cool character. Uh, and they're fine for what they are.
It's just what they are is not in any way impressive. I just
play them and I have no fun. I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean,
look, what can I do? What can you do? If you?
I mean, I don't think it's gonna make this list. They're strongly
about other games. I feel like it could get up. Yes, totally.
It's not said that about Mucky Island that I would be mad and like,
you know, throw a fit. But you know, I like,
I like Crash too a lot. I think you're wrong, Am I fair
enough? Whatever? I literally after the last sixth episode or whenever we talked
with that, I went and played Crash since then, and I'm just like,
yeah, don't still don't get it? Still just eight fill at it.
That's yeah. I'm like, this is just real boring. Um.
But okay, I mean, if you want to put it up there,
it's fine. It's like some other games that like, it's interesting, but
they just kind of have way more important sequels, like Diablo Diablo one is
at this point, you have Jedi Knights, but you know we did Dark
Forces already. You know, I like better, and I like Dark Force
better, and I like Jedi Outcast better. Jedi Knights just kind of in
the middle there. For me. Age of Vampires, Age of vatpis one's
good. I like two more than I like one. You're probably a good
bit Worms two. I liked Worms two, Worms two, guys I like
worms. Uh yeah, I guess worms worse two. It was Worms two,
the one I played. I don't know, Worst two, I bet
is the one you played. A lot of people I think Worms, Worms
two or that love Worms Armageddon. Yeah, we're definitely playing Worms Armageddon.
But I played something before that as well. I always like, oh,
I love this idea, and so when I finally got a chance to play,
I played a ton of it. I love Worms, but I don't
know. It feels weird to put it up there. I don't know,
that's a little weird. That's a little bit weird. You were you ever
an odd World Abes Odyssey guy? Yeah, I like, I'm fine.
I don't have any deep reverence for those for that franchise, Like when I
play the games, I'm enjoying it. Stretch back then it stood out more
because they did look very good, right, They had the cool cut scenes.
The graphics themselves are good because I think a lot of pre hundred backgrounds.
It was a big pre rendered backgrounds fan. Oh we better bring this
up before Shaw knows as we don't and yells at us, oh, never
mind. Mega Man Legends nineteen ninety seven in Japane okay, in the U.
We're safe for now. That is a good game, though. I
think the biggest game that we're not mentioning and probably won't be able to mention
because I've never played I don't know if you have, is the Original Fallout.
I played a good bit of the Original Fallout. Actually I didn't be
it. I did not beat it. I played a good bit of it,
and I did like it, and I bet at the time it was
really impressively. I felt like a big deal. I get that. I
don't. I don't know if I'm excited enough about that one. I want
to say so like Tech and three is a little weird because it came out
in the arcades only Japan ninety seven. It never had a US release until
it came to the PlayStation in ninety eight here, so that's more of a
ninety eight game. So yeah, mad about Tech and three. I mentioned
Diabbo one and said Diabbo two is really where I care more. Anyways,
you know, again, probably not gonna make it. I like Barman at
sixty four a lot. That's actually another one of my probably favorite in TEL
sixty four games. That's pretty good stuff. Um but yeah, just looking
there's like interesting like two rater two. No, not anymore w c W
versus nWo World Tourists. This this is the first u acky one, right,
it's every one of the earlier acky ones. I think it's probably the
first one. Yeah yeah, yeah, because you had revenge after this,
and then um and then yeah yes raw No Mercy and then two thousand that's
right, are the four WWW ones anyways? Yes? Um yeah, I
mean those That game is actually still very good. It's just they got way
better as they kept to making those kinds of games. And yeah No Mercy.
I think it is probably considered the best for reasons because it's got all
that good fun wrestling action with the most content on top of it. So
we don't I don't think we need to include WCW. Yeah do you want
to? Should we go to the community now see if they have some more
suggestions for us. I've been reading your suggestions and chat everybody. Thank you.
Yeah maybe a second, let me get that up. I'm meant to
do that as well. But it's still just take a second here. You're
all good stuff. By the way, if you wanted to link, yeah,
I think I will go there a new punk okays stuff? Is it
in podcast stuff there? I have it open if you want me to hope,
I got it right now, and I am fading back in there with
let's see here. We're gonna just hit the highlights. Granches mcbasketball says Crash
Bandicoot two. I'm probably the only one who's going to vote for this one,
but it's the one I go back to most often. I'm with you,
cran Jess, We're not alone. I'll get Crash Bandicoot to a chance.
I bet it's just like one in three is bench j C Final Fantasy
seven Pickman Wolf says for the Love of God put Symphony of the Night one
of the most important games of all time to help define an entire genre.
It just it defines all the gaming at this point. I think Nick Turbo
says Quake two a game so good it's getting a remaster next week. Allegedly.
Yes, we talked about that. It's actor Ryance is waxing poetic about
Mario Kart sixty four. Here, I mean I like miss I mean marcosts
is fours fun because until sixty four had the four players support and that was
great. Yes, it was a lot of fun. Yeah, I mean
that was for me at that time. That was why I was at the
n sixty four kid because I would have friends over almost every weekend. It
was middle school time and maybe a little little a little bit of high school
time, and people would be over all the time. We would just play
in sixty four games NonStop. Um I yeah, mister Buller says star Fox
sixty four. People are still chasing that high honorable mention to Diddy Kong Racing,
which I saw that that came out as well. That is so bizarre
for me to think back that Mario Kart sixty four and Diddy Kong Racing came
out. You think they'd be like, well, let's let's not do both
of these literally this year. Right in my in my mind, there's a
huge gap between those games. Well because they seem technically like like Diddy Kong
seems like there's a lot more going on because the characters are actually all three
D models. Oh yeah, it's not just much and stuff. Yes,
you could fly and stuff, but no, that's just the same year,
yep. And it's like it probably was like maybe Mario Kart came out earlier
in the year, and then Dinny Kong Racing came on holidays or something,
and so it's like that for me, it was like the end of one
school year in the beginning of another school year. So it just felt like
this huge gap back then. These days it's like I don't know, I
blink and that much time goes by. Um, all right, let's see
Breadfish has a list here, Sympathy a night Fall, Final Fantasy seven,
fall Out, Golden Eye Double O seven, Age Vampires Done Deal. Villain
Max says Golden Eye art. I know Mike doesn't agree with, but it's
Golden Eye Double O seven. Um. It's the game that introduced shooters to
many like myself on a console that has not mid and is superior to the
Dreamcast Sasquatching Sasquatch Crossing says Fallout, Beef Hammers says Final Fantasy seven or Mario
Card sixty four will result in Any slander against these will result in them rioting.
I think we we'll get a little bit of a riot a going.
I think um n Lenny cool. Diick Denver mentions tech in three. Yeah,
I mean I said it like Camerol Japan the Arcades. It might have
even been out here in the Arcades in ninety seven. I don't know.
It's a little weird. Always be Clothing says I'm gonna going to pander today's
co host Mike and sake the Curse of Monkey Island. Like it? Uh.
Cyberjack says, obviously it's final Fantasy seven. Tifa Lockhart is still the
hottest fictional character and it's not even close. Thank you, Cyberjack. Hey,
hey, Brian Rios, thank you for joining the Lincoln Tier. Appreciate
yes, shout outs. Um probably will probably still we'll look for some of
the highlights. Now, match's fallout. Yeah, I was just gonna say
fall Yeah, Matt Clin fall miss via a Tetrisphere. How about that?
I played Tetrisphere. I always get that in What Trick Smith? Yes up,
who doesn't? Right, we're all having that problem with Jeff exactly.
I saving that problem every day. Tetrisphere. I do remember being a little
bit a little bit better than What Tricks? Uh. Yeah, Terry Hockey
Blue says star Fox sixty four. Curse of Monkeyland gets mentioned. Jad Camp
has a good point down here Sonic are the game sucks, but can you
feel this? Yeah, maybe that soundtrack gets up there alone. The game
suck. No, people say it sucks, it doesn't. I mean,
you know, I also played it at the height of my Sega fan blindness,
so maybe I'm not the person to ask. Buggy Dillo has got some
like for the arcade, don't I'm Pacchi Vampire Savior, the Lord of the
Is Vampire Sayers here good thinks Sean's not here? Ye. NFL Blitz Battle
Circuit on PC. It's dungeon Keeper series I never played. I know people
really like bengeon Yeah, and my brother played a bit dudget Keeper. I
never really got it. It's I think that jet Keeper is kind of like
uh freaking um Viviva Pinata. Maybe I'm making that up, but I remember
they're being similar. I thought it was like a trap game where it's like
you keep put down traps and then people come towards you and like you like
they fall into your traps or something like. Yeah, but I think you
like do with the trap specific creatures that might get him so you can make
spawn new creatures completely because like I think it's like, it's definitely also a
bit of a tower defense. I don't even know what those first. Maybe
I'm just completely wrong. Maybe I need to look at what the hell dudget
Keeper was. Like I said, I've never played it a ribbon backyard baseball
spot what I mean the sequel to miss That's right, Spy Fox in Dry
Cereal. I don't remember that at all. That's one of those. Um,
so that's one of those kids A vet your games, that right?
Okay? After he left, Lucas starts all right, Oh my god,
this gamer browser has the AI stuff right. A high kup about Spy Fox
in Dry Cereal. Cunning Fox sets out solving mysteries with style, Dry Cereals
charm cool. Um, jad Camp, you mentioned sonic Are Crash Bandicoot two
from Clink, Kirby's Dreamland three from DMC depressed me crying, and the criminally
under appreciated Clinoa Door to the Phantom Mile. Yeah, Clonoa's a cool game.
I don't know if it really play makes it? Dream and three?
Is it nearly as good as Kirby Superstar? So? Uh, Screaming Man
says I want to give a Intelligent Cube a shout out since it's one of
my favorite puzzle games in dat ost rules, but it doesn't have a prayer
here though. What does have a prayer for game mess Game in the Year
in nineteen ninety seven is Madden NFL ninety eight. I like those games.
NFL Game Day ninety eight. I would consider Actually Game Day was good for
like two years back then around this time. Yeah, I think I saw
some people in chat asking about Tie Fighter versus x Wing, and we brought
this up when it was x Wing. Definitely just somehow missed that series completely.
It is one where I'm like, it's time to go play those games.
Yes, by the X May fourth, I will play those games,
but I kind of want to do it sooner than that. I just who
the fuck has the time Balder's Game three is out, We're going to be
hopefully get review codes of one Day for Starfield, and then my life's over
because of those two games. Um okay, yes, so Mike, let's
recap Game of the Year nineteen ninety seven, the games that we both several
locks, Final Fantasy seven, Castlevania, Symphony in the Night. I think
we just move Curse of Monkey Island up immediately, because yeah, I think
that goes goes without all the way. Number three let's go. Yeah,
I'm fine. I'm fine with that almost. I um yeah, okay,
So what we have left is Golden Eye, Star Fox, Mario Kart,
Blast Core, Quake two, Ultimate Online, Mega Man X four, Grand
Trismo. I know some of these we've already kind of scratched, but whatever.
Um, picking from those, I probably actually do move star Fox up.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Actually, that's probably the
one of all these in so sixty four games, that's the one of those
I like the most. Then it's the one most the most likely to play.
Now. Yeah, and I love I love blast Core, but it's
a very particular game, like it's a very it's very specific. Yeah,
it's very specific, and you kind of have to forgive a lot when you're
playing it because it's so awkward in a lot of ways. But it's awkward
in a fun way. But it's just not top five material. It's it's
not um oh, someone you're chest saying, Papa Rapper. I like Propa
fine. I was never a PaRappa guy, So I was I was wondering
if you're going to bring that up or not how much. It's all in
the mind. I like it. I get it, Unjammer lammy stand myself
really is really I prep with the Rapper two. I just never played one.
No, that's a joke. You can probably guess what my next favorite
game is in this list. Yeah, And to be honest, Mike,
I just don't. I don't feel super strong about anything else. So if
you wanted to move Mega matt X four up, I am fine with that
because I just I love Golden Eye Deumo seventh at the time. I don't
want it in the top five now, it's I know that's it's just how
I feel. Um and then Mario Kart kind of the same. There is
a part of me because there's a lot sizes are in blast Core. There's
a lot of important games here. Yeah, Quake two great rismolts to my
line. Boy, would I rather played Meg Next Floor over any of these?
Right? I mean I think the maybe, I don't know, Quake
two feels like it maybe could go up there. But I'll make you want
to put Mega Matics four up. Yeah. Well, Beefammer says this,
this is gonna get a lot hafe do Mega but no, like, I
don't know. Maybe I'm in a bubble amongst the Mega Man fans that everyone
does agree X four is one of the better ones. Uh. It's interesting
we have two two D place games at a time when it was so much
more about three D obviously becoming a thing. Um there's there's a part of
me that's thinking we do Quake two instead of Mega Man x four, But
I don't know how much fun we did Quake already. Quake was on the
last list. Yes, we put it above Wave Race even so we gave
it, gave it its due. Listen, Quake two going up there at
number five. Megamaticx four makes perfect sense to me. But uh, Mega
manticx four. I've heard that. I know, I've seen the fans say
that about Megamatics four being big, like really really like one am I fighting
far? Okay, well I wouldn't go that far, but uh, listen,
if the list is Final Fantasy seven, Cassivania, Sympthy Like, Curse
of Monkey Island, Star Fox sixty four, Mega Man x four, I
think that's interesting and good and we'll get hate because we're leaving off Golden Eye
Mario Kart, but we're not putting those on the list. Yeah, they
could deal with it. Let's go with it. I likes you actually seeing
some support and chat now, thank you everybody. Okay, yeah, you
know, I got a couple of Mikey games on here. I think the
most important thing. Honestly, it is probably like from Busy seven, got
simply a Knight Wanted two That is such a super luck to me. Yes,
and there's so there's almost no doubt and it's like, um, if
you know again at the time, Golden Eye double seven would have one hundred
percent be up there for me. But it's just and that's what I was
playing during that entire year. It was almost nothing about Golden Night and then
Samario Kart and and and so, like I missed out on a lot of
these other games at the time. I went back to him like the next
year. But uh so, yeah, nineteen ninety seven was kind of one
of those ones like, oh, I'm kind of everything got lost in the
black hole that was Golden Eye in that time. So I'm fine with this
list. Uh there was that's interesting. I would I almost wonder if I
fall out instead of being Max four. Nah, now we're not doing we're
doing mag manx four. Following Well, let's do this, all right,
I put the thing there are let me uh post us to Twitter. Have
people yell at us while we're finishing up the ship next. Oh, back
like nineteen seventy nine people, at least for the audio listener. One more
time. Let's start from five, this time Megabend x four, then star
Fox sixty four. Moving up the list, you got the Curse of Monkey
Island at number two. It's Castlevania Sympathy of the Night number one, Final
Fantasy seven. I personally would put Castlevania above Final Fantasy seven, but it's
not so strong in that direction that I feel like I'm gonna argue for it.
So this is this is This works for me. Okay, I posted
that to Twitter. Feel free to just go at me and yell at me
about that if you want, and specifically Mike, Yes, Mike, what
have you been playing? I've been playing. I gotta go to bast Why
don't we take a quick break? But yeah, I was gonna say we
should take a break because Christian needs to put these ads in. Anyhow,
We'll be right back, everybody, and we're back once again, Do we
get any more super chats? Yeah? I think we did get a couple
more of those. Actually, one more of those, specifically from Dean boeing
sis, it's gubble, it's something censored on my end. Oh, it's
guble bitches. Fe deanaid, thank you, thanks Dan shout out, it's
couple bitches. Apparently that's good. Thank you. Okay, Mike, what
have you been playing? Yeah? I mean it's like, especially when we
started the show right after finishing boters Gate three, then I started thinking about
how much I've also been enjoying Pick before I talked about both of those,
but I was like literally buzzing. I'm just so excited to be playing so
many good games right now. It's just ridiculing, especially these are two games.
There are so many games I knew I was looking forward to this year
for real, all right, like my dia Bol Street Futters Final fantasies that
it is, right, But like, these are two games. I no,
I wouldn't have like taken them in like my draft picks, you know
that kind of thing. And they're both great, They're both like really fun.
I want to play both of these all the way through now so let's
just just kind of like realizing that, like, gosh, these are good
games and they're really interesting and what's Oh, I'm just really excited. Yep,
it's uh, you're right, it's everything is hitting, Just everything is
hitting. And I think, I mean a big part of it, I
think is that developers publishers have realized if they do put the extra effort into
the game, it does pay off. It does turn into actual substantial sales
and greases and excitement about the franchise. And I think both both of these
games are examples of that. I think Pickman four isum is getting that shine
in Japan for sure. I think it's it might be due to get a
little bit of it here in Europe and in the West in general, but
it's definitely getting in Japan. And Balder's Gate three obviously just crushing it worldwide,
huge success, And so like people, these publishers realized it's worth putting
things, putting things off as long as you can the extra cost of development
to get things right is worth it. And boy, that's a pretty cool
place to be at in terms of someone buying and playing these games, where
it's like, oh, they really do recognize that if if, if they
put in that effort, we'll, first of all, we're going to appreciate
it and we're going to be more excited to spend money on it. So
Jana Choa and chat who says, I blame you for me enjoying these little
freaks grub Oh hell yeah, you playing too? Janod he was like,
he was like, so like the demos like good good to check out?
Like, yeah, jan please go play the demo please, I think you
might like it. Yes, he says, I hate I'm bringing it Anakin
Skywalker Nowger I hate you. Hey, jan Man, hope you're doing good.
Uh I thank you, thank you, Christian, thank you. Yeah.
Pickment for is is just it's fantastic. It is so well designed.
I've said it every week now for a couple of weeks, but I'm gonna
keep saying it because it does actually keep getting better because they keep introducing new
stuff, and the new stuff is super additive in terms of keeping the loop
fresh. He's did my first night excursion, Yes, exactly, that was
fun. Right, They're not too long, They're always the way shorter than
you're expecting, and yet like they ramp up in terms of stress and intensity
in a way that though normal game does not. So it's like this different
feeling for a little bit of time, and it has the separate reward system
that gets you this different thing, and it's it's just all so good and
all to each other. So well we need next time we're in person,
we have to have a dan Dory battle with steaks of some kind. Sure.
I love that I figured something out. I m r dude. I
still wish the dog hat and nose. Oh yeah, totally. I submitted
some jokes for the next me too. We'll see. It's fun here exactly
with some stakes on it. This one too. Uh. And I definitely
just ripped the dog. It's like the first a dog designed entirely by cat
people, Like, seriously, we hate dogs. Look what we did to
this fucker. Um. Yeah, a nose and front legs just make it
actually a dog if you're gonna make a dog. Um. But overall,
like everything that they're doing for this game, it, like I said,
just feeds into one another and it keeps you wanting to play once you and
it's like one more day is so easy to do. And I love those
kinds of games. SIV has always been that for me, Um, if
you give me a little session of gameplay, this like a nice little nugget
of like I can see what I can accomplish, and all those things are
fun to do and feel rewarding and feel like I'm working towards a bigger goal.
I'm like, yeah, I'll do that for those Dan Dory battles I
did, um U, I had a little bit of an edible last night
and I played right now. Yeah, and I played one of those Dan
Dory battles. I'm like, this is a terrible idea, And I'm like,
I was actually relaxed enough that I was like doing awesome micro management between
both Och and my guy separate, and I was like, I felt like
rain manned a little bit. It was pretty good. I was, and
I crushed it and I got everything. I beat the entire level and it
was like a higher difficulty than I've ever done before. So it was like,
oh, man, Okay, I should play this way more often.
This is pretty good stuff. Um. Super chaff from matt Elhart, and
I said earlier like this would have been my draft pick. He points out
that Mike, you literally got picked before as your first pick, but like
at the time, I was like, that's oh, that's left. And
also Mike's very bad at Fantasy critic. Everybody necessarily beat it fancy critic.
I meant, like, ol for some reason, I can only get like
five games from what I knew was coming out. Sure in the year,
I wouldn't have picked to pick before, and like I probably should actually because
yeah, it's it is just that good. And now, I mean Boulterer
Skate three is intimidating to me. Mike being like, oh, you could
spend eighty hours on it. I'm not gonna like try to tap myself into
feeling like I'm ever gonna have to beat it, but I think I'm gonna
enjoy just keep playing it to have fun exactly like beat it someday. That's
nice. If you don't, just yeah whatever, because it is it is
fun to play. I mean I've played games like that before, like this,
honestly. I mean I've done that with Divinity Original Sin two a couple
of times that are quite got around to beating it. I wish I did,
but I didn't. Oh well, I guess I did that with fall
Out one. Even I still like played a bunch of fall Out one and
enjoyed it, so there's there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, D mentions
if I like that Micromansion might like, uh Pickman three on the U.
I played that game. I reviewed it actually, and I really liked at
the time, but I liked the luxe even better on the switch, at
least at the time. I don't know why this it did intimidate me,
but the switching between the three people did intimidate me, and Picked and three
I would probably have gotten over it for some reason. You do through me
if you get over it. But I think that has been one of the
franchises big problems is even in Pickman two, splitting out like make it a
bit like you can split up oche and and you're captain in this game,
um and and that you can do that, but they don't really emphasize that
too much. They teach you eventually, they don't emphasize it Pickman two and
Pickman three very much. You're gonna have two captains, split them up.
You need to be separated to like maximize your efficiency because there's a big time
limit hanging over your head. And three is like even more of that.
Although you know, once you get good at like well well, you know,
I'm just pointing you over to the map. There's something over there.
Send them over there. I know that this area isn't cleared out, so
I will actually go along and make sure that this is a safe path as
we push further in this direction, Like you get the hang of it real
quick. But the thought I think to most people is that just sounds like
a lot of added stress. And I don't, I don't. I can't
even imagine myself doing that, and people so people don't even try it.
And with this game, they're like, we need to step back from that.
And that was that was definitely the right choice, the right choice that
that is uh right uh and then yeah, like yeah, back to Boulder
Skate three. I just, um, I really liked to seeing the dice
rolls on screen. I love the dice rolls. I think I don't know
why, but having them literally baite dice rolls. What a couple of times
I played Dudges and Dragons, I cared so much more about that shit,
Like, yeah, I'm talking to it. I'm talking like I'm talking to
my guy. He's pinning to be a barkeeper, and they want me to
roll a dice to see if I get information or not. Yeah, I
don't know why. I liked that a lot more than doing the battle.
So I like that that is, and I like that it's not like,
oh, we're doing the dice roll just in the background. I like that.
It's like, here's the dice. You're gonna actually roll a dice.
Cool and um, I kind of wish and this is like a problem with
D and D. I'm a problem. This is a facet of D and
D where like when you get a failing roll, I kind of wish there
would be consequences sometimes, so like I got a critical failure and I'm like,
there should be consequences, and it's like, no, actually, you
just really suck at the thing you were trying to do and that's it.
Nothing bad happens, right, because I'm like, I want interesting things to
be happening, whether I'm rolling good or rolling bad, and it's like,
well, the interesting thing you usually is going to happen if you roll you
know, pretty good. But still overall, I really like that. I
liked m that. I don't know, it's that detective game. I can
never remember the name of that. Everyone really likes. Oh yes, yes,
now I'm breaking on it too. The one that they're having the legal
trouble with the sequel, Yes, exactly, and everyone always in a chat
always has to help me remember it. But that game has dice rolls in
the disco Alicia, and thank you so much, h and like the seeing
the death of Dice rolls in that was always fun. This one puts right
up in front of you. I think I do wish it was like a
physical die die rolling around like a playing field. They just sort of like
cheat it, but it's it's a number generator, but it's still really fun.
Um. And then you know, it's like exciting when you see like,
oh, you know, I gotta I gotta nine and the checks the
skill check was a ten, but I have a plus one and so I
got a ten, so I passed. It's really exciting. UM. And
then like you sup, we're saying earlier the U the production values, it
looks so good for one of these, and it honestly just looks good period,
Like like the details on all the characters. Um, the creative character
is very very good. It's just you could tell that a lot of love
was put into this game, and it's not just um, oh, like,
oh, there's detailed characters if you're playing like this one kind of character.
The breadth of content here, like it's it's just like you can do
your own specific character, or they give you six main characters that you can
actually select rights like straight out of the original. Sin two has something like
that. They did that before end. But it's like yes, and it's
like, looks like there's a ton of work from that angle put in here.
So yeah, it just feels like this is a love letter to the
genre, love letter to fans of this kind of game, and it also
is it's not just that it is carrying it forward as well, and I'm
I'm very excited to play more. Very early on the game, speaking of
dice rolls, they they want you to roll better than a one. Better
you have to roll at least a two. Yeah, basically just get a
party member. Right yet, Oh really, but I wondered if they were
cooking those early ones some people assume, but in like, I didn't.
I don't want to be like the scums like save Scummer in this game,
right, Like, oh, I'm just gonna keep rolling. It's like what
I want. But I was like, Okay, look I'm not going to
not get this party member sure the rest of the game, because like Roto
one year, it was uh just incredible. What kind of character did you
make though? I actually went with a a historian, the white haired elf
guy Rogue, So you did go with one, the guy who's kind of
on the main cover everywhere. I think, here's here's my plan. I
think for my personal game, I'm going to play through like that and then
if we do any multiplayer stuff with like the guy's a giant bomb. Uh,
my plan is to create a character for that, and I think I'm
gonna be a little uh. I think I'm gonna be a little dwarf.
I want to be either that or half lean one or the other. I
like the idea of being like a little hot but a little freak. Yeah.
Yeah, well I want to be a little freak. I absolutely do.
And I think that would be fun because I expect, uh, everyone
else to either make a super hot lady or a super buff dude, and
I want to stand out from that a little bit. And if I stand
out, I mean stand down. Yeah. I made I made a standing
on real quick. That reminds me. I think last week we I was
making a joke about how we were taller than everyone at the gaming thing,
and so one pointed out that that was kind of rude, and they were
right, And I thought at the time, you did a good job of
pointing out how stupid I sounded by making a sound like we're alpha males or
something. I'm gonna emphasize that that was a very stupid thing I said.
I was just joking. Everybody, so sorry about that. I think it's
so you're fine. Yeah, someone pointed out, I'm like, you're right,
absolutely, it's okay. Somebody pointed out that we brought up that Taylor
Swift think from that Jimmy Fallon bitz. I was like, you shouldn't do
that. I'm like, man, even though I can't imagine anybody that's more
like aiming high, for sure, I won't make fun of Taylor Swift in
anyway. Well, that's just for your own personal safety. But that's just
for my own safety I was making fun of. I was just I just
thought it was funny with those other guys. I don't care because I have
no opinion. I end up, to be honest, I never really looked
there. I don't even know Anyways, um I made I made out just
a human male cleric. I like be healers in these kind of games.
Jeff, ever since Divinity Original, not Devin ever since Dragon Age origins,
because in that game, there's only one healer you can get in your party,
and it's just some old lady and you gotta have her at your party
because you need a healer. It's like just kind of had Grandma with me
the whole time, even though they are all these cool characters I wanted by
party, and the whole time I kept thinking I should have been a healer
then I wouldn't need this Grandma here, because I think you're always gonna find
other people to deal damage. You're gonna have those rights am around, right,
But like a healer, you're gonna on the one may as well be
me in case the only healer they throw my way sucks or something. Although
in this game, like the second person you meet is a healer is a
clear healer too, So that's the one I almost didn't get in my party.
So yeah, have you, like in your game, have you met
a story and yet, because I'm wondering if, like, since I picked
him, if you get him handed to you earlier or whatever. I don't
think I just pulled a I just pulled a guy out of a portal.
That's that's not fake. I don't think it's a story, and I think
it was a wizard. So not him. Historians are what is a rogue?
Rogue? Yeah, not him. Then I'm to come across him yet,
Okay, I'm It's it's like, oh, you they present those characters
to you that you could select from, and then when you play the game
like that's those are the first people you're meeting. So I'm like, oh,
that must be the main crew and that's how they're actually making this all
work. So I was like, oh, well, if I'm paying one
of them, I wonder another character would have been here instead. And I
have no idea. Yeah, I was wondering something that myself just like,
yeah, well I know I could play this like you know that in the
beginning. I know she's not an orc, but whatever, it's from Mass
Effect but whatever. Yeah, but you see this like her in the CG
intro. Even I'm like, what if I'm her? How does this play
differently? Or exactly what if I am that? Quick? Yeah, it's
interesting think about that but again Divinity, Rigel said, uh, Sin two
did that, but there it was a bit more straightforward because all those people
were like right there in that starting boat with Yeah, you don't immediately encounter
all these characters right away that you did in that one. Yep. I
um, yeah, I'm just kind of curious to hear more people talk about
this game. I'm gonna I'm want to hear their other experiences because it seems
like it's going to have a lot of opportunity for that sort of stuff.
And also it's the kind of game that I think a lot of people who
are playing it haven't played before or have not played in a long time.
So it'll be cool to have this genre of front out there, kind of
front and center, and to hear what everyone thinks about it. And then,
you know, a couple of weeks, we're playing Armored Corps, playing
Starfield, We're playing so many back at it, yes, right back at
it. Yeah. We we had like one week where like nothing came out
basically, and then Picking four came out and now here we are and it's
just right back. I mean, you know, there's like Ben's like again,
smaller stuff. I feel bad and not play more but that Double Dragon
guide and we really like that than like the game came out. I haven't
really been able to play. Everyone everyone who played Dave the Diver it keeps
talking about really likes that. And then um want to go back to remake
the Sister Star remake, which I feel like was really really you watch that
Matt mcmussele's video about it. I keep wanning to watch that System Shock Yeah
no, oh no, I didn't see it. Is what happened that just
came out now, I haven't seen that one. Yeah, yeah, I'm
gonna check that out. Yeah, so because it was in development hell for
a while, so I want to see but yeah, just gosh, I
kind of like I resent because I would like to play more Boarders GAT three
almost tonight, but I like, I really want like a big block of
time to play it, and I know we kind of like hang out.
I don't want to play it while talking to people. So it's like,
man, I just can't wait till hopefully it's some time tomorrow to play it
some more and all this stuff we'll see. Yep. We're we're kind of
debating, going back and forth about doing it for UPF tomorrow or maybe that
new Fortnite stuff. But I'm I can make two hours of Boulders game multiplayer.
I think I think I'll probably would be enough to like get a good
idea of what that's like. Yeah, so hopefully we can make that happen.
I think that'd be fun. Okay, Mike, I think we're gonna
wrap stuff up. So that sound good. Maybe get out of here,
Yeah sounds good. Oh Dan Record doesn't like our list, I don't know.
Oh he's he loves gold and nine that's right. Yeah, he's a
big goal. He's one of those freaks. I just um, I played
a PC uh not port like basically remake that fans did of Golden Eye with
mouse and keyboard support, and that was fun. I played that for like
a hot week and I had a good time with that. I just can't
go back to that original. I mean, I think I don't have to
do analog sticks. I mean, I mean I said this before, but
like I had Quick like you know, I know it's spoiled. I could
play Quick do like we had a computer. I could do that, so,
like you know, and that was you know, around the saving year.
So I just never I never really cared about gold and I too much.
I played it. I had some of my play have to play with
people. Sure, but I was I never really quite understood the giant Uh
hoopla, Uh, Mike, anymore super tricks before we get out of here.
Yes, Giovanni di Giorgio says, just wanted to show my appreciation.
Keep it the great work. Oh is it true that if you don't use
it, you listen? Is that a serious question? Yes? Absolutely,
and the answer is definitely. Mike eel Lyrics says, a shout out to
both of you wearing Oceanic Theam shirts. Your jobs are beach Jeff. When
when I saw that meme, I immediately thought of Green Dog. Remember Green
Dog? I don't remember Green Saga Genesis Green Dog. No, no memory
of Green Dog for the Saga Genesis. I think I remember seeing Green Dog
at a demo station out of Sears and I thought the gate looked really cool.
Apparently it's terrible. Uh sorry, but I remember Red Dog that like
that beer from the nineties that was a big deal for Green Dogs is the
beach Bum and he's in a two D platform for the Sega Genesis, which
I still kind of want to place them. There's a lot of two D
platforms for the Sega Genesis. I'll kind of want to go back to.
But all right, I'm gonna hit this button, wait or any other?
Is there another super Chest? No? I got it. Nope, we
are good. Thank you so much for all the super chests. Thank you
for the thumbs up at times. Wow, this music so peaceful. So
yeah, animal crossing stuff, that's always kind of peaceful. Mikey, where
can people find you on the internet? I mean, uh, you know,
Tolkoto on Twitter or whatever the hell it is. This sky have to
be bashful about it. Yeah, I'm pretty bashful about it. We had
a lot of fun this week voicemail, dump truck and back rub, and
you know, I was very excited. You know you you asked me to
be on a bomb cast. I thought it was just like a normally Oh
you need a fourth I'm gonna be there. I was like, oh wow,
everybody was here. That was really fun. So that was a good
time being on bomb Cast. Eight hundred people should listen to that. Absolutely,
that was a fun time. Yeah. We uh got some new stuff
happening pretty soon on Giant Bomb. I think on Monday I'm gonna start my
Mortal Kombat play through and the idea is i'll stream it probably after games mornings
most days. Um, and I'm gonna kind of I'll be in the channel
and hopefully people just hop in. So, Mike, if you want to
come spend some time while I play some some Mortal Kombat. Feel free.
But it's not like those things where it's like, oh you're if you're on
the show, you're on the show. It's just like, come hang out
with me. I'll have to play some Mortal Kombat. Um, there's some
other stuff happening next week. Look out for that. That'll that'll be fun.
I'm gonna maybe start a new video series too. It's it's it's it's
good time. So we had a productive meeting, So check out giant bomb
dot com. Everybody in the course, miss morning. So I'll be doing
well. Hey, I'm going to packs with them. Yeah, you're gonna
be a pack. Mike's gonna be a pax everybody. So if you are
going to packs West, we'll have some details about like how to how either
go to our panels, other other things. We might be doing meetups things
like that. We actually are having a meetium about that next week as well,
so we'll get all those details out to your packs for me. Since
twenty twelve, I believe the second Packs East wasn't my latest one. We'll
have to look back on my Google photos to remember the last time I went.
I think I went in like twenty seventeen or something like that. But
Packs has always been fun, always fun cut You always just run into awesome
people. Remember Matt Chandernay one of the first years I went from Area five.
She ended up in at dinner with him and He's just like, hey,
yeah, I know you from Twitter. Jeff, like we could talk,
and that was so nice that that kind of vibe is very cool.
Thank you for having me as your guest today. God damn it. Bye,
everybody. One show am I doing? I'm good at that? It's
really terrifying. Let's go. Let's go, Sean. Most people are beating
it right now. Okay, Mike, are you good? I'm good.
Let's just do it. Actually, I'm just gonna run grab one thing.
I'll be right back, all right, I'll keep these people. I wonder
if I'm for getting a thing. It took a lot. The biggest use
of the week the final Fantasy fourteen trailers. She did. There was a
super chat about it, and I talked about it a bit, but you
should talk for like an hour about it. Yeah, I guess we never
did really talk about it much in content. I don't think people they're still,
what are you talking about that? Well, fan Fest, I guess.
I guess they just said fan fest. That's not very clear what fan
fest. Well, the next one fest is in it's in Europe, I
think I think it's in like the UK. So that seems in October they're
gonna show the full trailer. Oh, October, I'm not going in October
anywhere. There's a lot. Oh the next one, I'm she was looking
at. The next one is in January in Japan's fucking like an next use
a Togo Japan. I feel like something's happening in Japan or January. I
mean, that's also happening I think on that time. Hi, Jeff,
hell um okay, I think I am good to bring us back into the
second. Actually, let me get a dock. Let me get a dock.
Alright, alright, alright, alright, actually get the layout also,
Jennaline in myself something I hope it's surprised. Oh no, I don't worry
about it. Great, you know you wouldn't even notice. So no,
no, oh, never mind, I didn't say anything. I did not
say anything. Okay, let's bring it back in. Yes, alright,
alright, al runs, all right, not bad everybody. We're doing uh
doing good work here. All right. So that's what tuesday. Well,
I know, oh you know what, Kevin Mitchell, I didn't mean to
mention Blade Runner. I really really like Blade Runner the west the Westwood Studios,
Quentin Click adventure game. Um yeah, yeah, yeah, it's in
my top it would be in my top ten for sure. It would be
in the top ten for sure. Yeah. That's you know what I need
to do before not the nineteen ninety eight list is play some Acharene of Time
because I'm ready, but goes next week. Maybe I can't be another topic.
Yeah all right, so I am next week. By next week,
I gotta play some Bacherina time again. It's been a while. Just get
it. Just getting this weekends. I just I just um, like so
many other Zelda's better now it is where I'm at with Ochareno of Time.
That's the big thing. So yeah, green hum says Acharan of time as
God's here. I just yeah, I don't know. For me, it's
like, yeah, it's like links awake in the rap. Sorry, it's
like, um, linked to the past but three D and very good.
It's very good. But I just I don't know. I like linked to
the past better. I like, I'm like, I'm better. So and
you play this game so all the time, So it's not like this is
not like oh, when there was a Kuti, what's good? This is
like no, no, yeah, well yeah, it's it's been a couple
of years for Ocher enough time. But I yeah, I played the three
D S version when I was getting my three DS hacked. I played it
again a little bit. Um, well, I should you get that out?
I'll get that out. Maybe that's why are you still in Nintendo jail.
Yeah, oh well listen, if we were out in Nintendo jail,
the things wouldn't be that different. Like it's not like it like, oh,
we'd been making so much more money because we have access to these games.
Now, people the same amount of people you're watch them. We'll be
fine. We're all good. Linked to the Past is is better. But
you can't deny yes, Occherio The Times importance is, Yeah, you cannot
overstate it. You're right, it's it's huge. Um yeah, I really
like Oker enough time. I just I just don't know if I still love
it the way I did back in nineteen ninety eight. Um, but I'll
get that three D S version out and play something this week. I just
played on the Steam Deck, though I don't know my three D S.
I ordered a battery for it Christian from Amazon, and I think I threw
it away. I think other things came in the box, because I remember
getting a box that said lithium ion sticker on it. I'm like, oh,
that must be in there, and I opened it and like, I
think something else was on top, and then there was some paper, and
then I don't think I ever found or really even looked for the battery,
and I think I just threw the box out. And so I just threw
out a lithium iya. I knew lithium ion battery. So if my local
dump catches on fire, it's my fault. Yeah. The next yeah,
the next wildfire that happens. Yeah, I need to buy it directly into
you. I don't have to buy another one of those because my three DS
battery is fucking shot. It's completely shut. She gets strong here. Yep,
that's right, fishing love. All right, Mike, you're good to
get back into it. Yeah, I'm sure to switch the scene back to
the two people. Yeah, let me do that right now. There we
go. Okay, make it six. But it has to be should be
required, you know, the silence has to be sexy now you Oh shit,
Okay, hang on, let me make sure that we're there. Okay,
here we go.