1 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,079 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a brand new episode of The Poker Go 2 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,600 Podcast. The number one poker podcast in the land. And I know that 3 00:00:20,719 --> 00:00:28,039 is a fact because I've seen everyone's Spotify social media shares and we're at the 4 00:00:28,039 --> 00:00:31,280 top of every list that I've seen hundreds, if not thousands of people, 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,439 as we should be. In the words of podcast superfan Jeff Platt, many 6 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,840 people are saying many, many people are saying that the Poker Podcast is the 7 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,640 number one poker podcast in the life. But in all seriousness, my name 8 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:50,240 is Donny Peters. His name is Tim Duckworth. It is Thursday, November 9 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,320 thirtieth, It's the final day of November. November is wrapping up. But 10 00:00:55,359 --> 00:01:00,759 Tim had already shaved the mustache. It's unfold handle. Look at him without 11 00:01:00,759 --> 00:01:04,159 the mustache on this video. Come on wait, it was so it was 12 00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:08,040 bad ass, man. It was great. It was so so great. 13 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,640 All right, on this episode, we are going to talk about the World 14 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:18,239 Poker Tour WPG seminal wrapped up. It has a winner. We're going to 15 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:22,760 hit on that. The WPT World Championship kicked off yesterday, so we're going 16 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,760 to hit on that. We also got to talk about WSP Paradise starting up 17 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:30,680 in a couple days. We're going to play a little WPT and WSP fantasy 18 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,239 and there is going to be a listener play along with a giveaway, so 19 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,959 you guys can get involved out there. Run Good, the Run Good Poker 20 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,840 series wrapped up an event at Thunder Valley recently, and it is important because 21 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,000 it had the Dream Seat Invitational Tournament and one player who we will talk about 22 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:57,359 later on, won his way to compete in the PGT Championship million dollar free 23 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,920 role, so that's very cool. We're gonna hit on that. And then 24 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:05,000 there have been a handful of new episodes of A Game of Gold and we 25 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,199 are going to chit chat about that. I will say it right now. 26 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,199 There are gonna be some spoilers probably. We're gonna talk about what has happened. 27 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,639 So if you haven't watched it and you're trying to avoid spoilers, don't 28 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:23,000 listen forward. 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Hot off the press, headline news. 53 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,919 Let's play the little jingle, little intro, and then we'll get into it. 54 00:04:12,039 --> 00:04:15,840 Attention, attention, good morning, good afternoon, and good evening to 55 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:19,240 the poker radio audience near and far. It is now time for a brand 56 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:24,120 spanking, spiffy and new shout out to some of our most loyal listeners who 57 00:04:24,319 --> 00:04:28,240 likely got a bit too lucky on the way to the spotlight. You're listening 58 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,439 to the number one poker show in the land, and it's time for a 59 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,800 new edition of the Poker Gough podcast Community Cards. All right, do you 60 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,519 want to do the honors? Or should I? You do it? You 61 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:45,759 do? Okay? Jeff Platt one a Run Good Poker Series ring. Last 62 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,319 night he took down the three hundred dollars dream Crusher bounty event at the recent 63 00:04:49,519 --> 00:04:55,959 Run Good Poker Series stop up at Thunder Valley. Jeff one just under six 64 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,959 thousand dollars plus whatever bounties he got. Ben Ludlow good friend, a good 65 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,680 friend of Jeff's as well. They were at the final table together. Ben 66 00:05:02,759 --> 00:05:08,120 Ludlow finished in fifth place. I believe Jeff busted him. That a very 67 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,639 friendly thing to do. But there are no friends at the poker table. 68 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,639 We all know that. So yes shut out to Jeff Platt for taking home 69 00:05:15,879 --> 00:05:19,360 that ring and the six thousand dollars in prizemen. You believe he's now down 70 00:05:19,399 --> 00:05:24,480 in Houston or on his way to Houston one way or the other for the 71 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,279 Champions Club live streams that Poker gro and Champions Club are doing. Brent Hanks 72 00:05:29,319 --> 00:05:31,319 is also down there. Phil Helmuth is down there. Jeremy Osmas is down 73 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:34,560 there. Is going to be a big ass meetup game at Champions Club. 74 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,920 We're gonna be live streaming over the next couple of days on the Poker Go 75 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,199 YouTube channel, some cash games, So check that out if you guys want 76 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:46,439 some poker content, All right, let me throw some Jeff's out. Oh 77 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,079 we got stat boys back, let's go. I didn't know this, but 78 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,600 this is his first run good ring. I swore he already had one. 79 00:05:56,439 --> 00:06:00,399 Yeah, so I also swore that he already had one. But he has 80 00:06:00,439 --> 00:06:03,360 a ws AP circuit ring. He does have a WSP circond ring, but 81 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,319 I also I thought that he had both. To be honest, I thought 82 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:11,199 he had one of each. So he just won. Basically, what is 83 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:16,480 a six K and bounties. He is now eclipsed seven hundred thousand in total 84 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:24,519 live earnings according to our rich d handed mob. He's rich. He's rich 85 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:30,120 hundred and twenty six on the Texas All Time money list. He's going to 86 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:32,680 hit that tope hundred. He's from Texas. Yeah, I feel like Texas 87 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:36,399 would be a hard moneyless to get to the top of Can you name the 88 00:06:36,399 --> 00:06:43,199 top five without cheating? Oh? I don't think he can. Is t 89 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:48,000 J Cludier up there? Third? Yep? Ten million? His door runs 90 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:54,279 in Texas? He is, but he is six Okay, I mean I 91 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,439 yeah, Texas, Texas. I mean I give you. I'll give you 92 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,079 one hint Game of gold. Game of Gold. David Williams, Yep, 93 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:10,920 he is fourth. Played Super high Rollerball PLO. We did not expect him 94 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:15,600 to play. Played Super High Rollable PLO. Did not expect him to play. 95 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:19,480 It was not on our list of potential I got no idea. Ben 96 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:25,079 toleraan you I would have if you said where is he from? It was 97 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,040 Connecticut. I mean, there's no way I'm saying Texas. Who's in second 98 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:36,519 multiple bracelet winner and owns a card room? Giant Champ No, Doug Polk. 99 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,879 I don't even know why I said Giant, and you would never get 100 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,399 you would never get. Fifth It was Keith Who is it, Doug Polk? 101 00:07:45,439 --> 00:07:48,480 Sorry, Dog Polk? And fifth was Keith Tilson, Okay, Keith 102 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,319 Tilson makes sense. I don't know why I said Giant Chan that this because 103 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,319 I know he was involved in some card rooms in Texas. That's why, 104 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,680 for whatever reason I thought I would think he's from Texas. Was weird. 105 00:07:58,759 --> 00:08:03,240 I'm always questionable about the the location stuff, you know, for like like, 106 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:07,519 That's why I asked. That's why I said Doyle Doyle. The way 107 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,120 that I did, like was is Doyle listened on Hende mob As Texas? 108 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,600 Or has he listened as Las Vegas? You know? Like I mean, 109 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,360 yeah, I'm from New Hampshire, so I'm on the New Hampshire All Time 110 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,279 Money List. But I've you know, the majority of my poker results have 111 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,399 come when I've been a resident of Las Vegas. So it's like, you 112 00:08:22,439 --> 00:08:24,879 know, what do you think he ranked in New Hampshire? Like Phil Helmuth 113 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:26,240 is Wisconsin, right, I mean, but he's like how long has he 114 00:08:26,279 --> 00:08:31,040 lived in Northern California forever? I mean, you know, where do you 115 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,399 rank on the New Hampshire all time money list? Like two hundred and something 116 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,639 fifty fourth? Yeah? Okay, I mean what but there's moved to New 117 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:45,639 Hampshire. There's one person that's like up top, that's like way up top, 118 00:08:45,759 --> 00:08:48,919 right? Is that true? No? Okay, maybe someday I'll get 119 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,159 up there, man, I'd be I'd be thirty ninth if I was. 120 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,200 Where would Jeff Flappy He's got seven hundred, he would be he would be 121 00:08:54,279 --> 00:09:00,720 a fourth out fourth? Who's number one? Dan Shallafaw with eight hundred K. 122 00:09:00,879 --> 00:09:05,159 Daniel gang Plo Series champion second eight hundred and twenty two k. He 123 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,240 recently shot up there. So yeah, all right, cool, enough of 124 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,840 that. Let's move on in to the news and happenings. First up, 125 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:20,960 WPT Seminole Down at Seminole Hard Rock in Florida. This seemed like it's been 126 00:09:20,039 --> 00:09:26,720 serving as kind of the layover stop between people traveling from wherever they're traveling from. 127 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:30,600 I would say mostly like kind of the Las Vegas or West Coast area, 128 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:33,679 maybe even up up you know, in the northeast, down to Florida, 129 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,559 and then they're going to jump over to the Bahamas. And we all 130 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:43,039 know that, or maybe you don't know, but the the Florida to the 131 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,480 southern Florida to Bahama's flight is like, you know, a forty minute flight, 132 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,600 very very quick and simple. Thirty five hundred dollars buying for this WPT 133 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,080 Seminal Main event, three million dollar guarantee, had one four hundred and forty 134 00:09:54,159 --> 00:09:58,480 seven entries. Price will topped four million, six hundred thousand dollars. There 135 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,039 was more than seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars up top for first place and 136 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,240 coming out on top was it's then Brisky taking home. Well that was a 137 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:11,600 deal. Oh wow? Was see that? Yes? Originally seven hundred and 138 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,960 fifty two thousand, five hundred dollars up top, which also includes the WPT 139 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:20,200 World Championship seat. Brisky took home six hundred and forty seven three hundred dollars 140 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,840 after he made a deal heads up with Ryan Chamas, who took home an 141 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,679 even six hundred thousand dollars. Sandy Sanchez finished in third for three hundred and 142 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:33,879 sixty six k. Fred Goldberg, He's been at a few WPT final tables 143 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,039 in the past, he took home for two hundred and seventy four thousand dollars 144 00:10:37,039 --> 00:10:41,600 for fourth place. Matt Bond played a handful of events inside the poker Grost 145 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,320 studio. He had a score of two hundred and six thousand dollars, and 146 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,279 then Darryl Fish, who we all know or likely know if you're in the 147 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:52,559 poker world, one hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars for him finishing in sixth 148 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,799 place. I mean, listen, good numbers again out of Seminole, Always 149 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,679 good numbers out of Semino for these big events. You know, it's like 150 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,720 they I know, it was years ago when they missed that huge ten million 151 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,759 dollar guarantee prize pool, but you know, since then, since they've kind 152 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:15,039 of recalibrated the guarantees, there's still big guarantees you know overall, and they're 153 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,360 within that thirty five hundred to five thousand dollars price point, and they always 154 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:22,039 crush. They always do extremely well. You know, I remember kind of 155 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,759 coming out of the pandemic or tail end of the pandemic member when there was 156 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:28,840 all the dividers at the tables and all this sort of stuff. But they 157 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,799 had like you know, alternate eight hundred or so, you know, the 158 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,480 crazy stuff like that. I mean, it's it's crazy down at Seminole. 159 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:37,960 The poker's wild there. They have a lot of good events. You know, 160 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,240 obviously we're talking about this thirty five hundred dollars buying WPT main event that 161 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,360 was down there. But you know, they often open their series with like 162 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,360 a five six hundred doll or maybe a four hundred dollar opener that has a 163 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:52,000 million dollar guarantee on it. So there's a ton of stuff there. There's 164 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:54,559 always like a handful of like mixed events. There's some high rollers. I 165 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,720 think they had a twenty five K that had more than ninety entries, so 166 00:11:58,759 --> 00:12:01,480 they had that. They had some you know, some five K side events 167 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:05,440 like I mean, they they do extremely well in Seminole. One of those 168 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,480 spots I've always wanted to go, you know, make I mean I've been, 169 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,279 but go for poker, make a trip out of it, spend a 170 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:13,320 week there, just play a lot. But you know, it's it's a 171 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,120 lot harder to do nowadays when you got a family and a couple of kids 172 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,240 running around, you know. But but yeah, but seminoles A it's doing 173 00:12:20,279 --> 00:12:26,159 extremely well. I will I will say this. My question about Seminole is, 174 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,759 I want to know if Seminole is bringing the Seminal hard rock poker brand 175 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:37,480 to Las Vegas. When they launched the hard Rock here taking over the Maraage. 176 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:39,039 Now, I know it's several years away. I think I think they're 177 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:46,000 targeting late twenty twenty seven, early twenty twenty eight. We all know how 178 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,960 all that stuff goes, might get pushed back, you know, a year 179 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,600 or two whatever. But I want to know if they're gonna like this Seminal 180 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,679 poker brand in South Florida is so big, like it's it's it's gotten bigger 181 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,480 than just like South Florida poker. It's it's certainly like a very national, 182 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:07,159 if not international brand that a lot of people carve out their schedules for. 183 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,480 They make the trips down there, they go to these events, whether it's 184 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:13,840 it's a Seminal event, that's paired with the WPT or whether it's one that's 185 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:16,039 not like people go they attend. We see the numbers, the main event 186 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,960 numbers are always in the thousands. They're crushing guarantees, huge prizes like it's 187 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,240 great, and of course it doesn't hurt that the weather's generally pretty nice there, 188 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,039 you know, like it can't get that bad other than like the occasional 189 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:31,639 rainstorm here and there, which in South Florida can happen at the you know, 190 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,240 the turn of a dime. But other than that, uh, it's 191 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:39,600 it's awesome. So are they going to try and replicate that sort of thing 192 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:45,759 here in Las Vegas? When you know it launches here and at that point, 193 00:13:45,799 --> 00:13:50,000 you know you're gonna have to contend with wind Poker Venetian always does extremely 194 00:13:50,039 --> 00:13:54,120 well. Resorts World is really trying to like increase their footing. We know, 195 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,519 we know what Aria does, of course, and they have that kind 196 00:13:56,519 --> 00:13:58,840 of bigger series, the Aria Classic. Throughout the summer they got bad MG 197 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,200 I'm coming into play, so I don't know, it's going to be interesting 198 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,519 to see if if they want to try and replicate that sort of thing. 199 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:13,799 There's so much competition here here's what I would do. Okay, I would 200 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:18,399 I would have a series here, but I wouldn't necessarily have a poker room 201 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,080 unless I thought the poke room was going to do all right, right, 202 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,840 Like it's just hard, Like you there's poker rooms have closed unfortunately in a 203 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,039 lot of spots, and they've gotten smaller, and it's it's harder to operate 204 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,639 like a live poker room in a lot of locations these days. And I 205 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:37,639 think the Las Vegas market, like people have just seen that, you know, 206 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,279 slot machines do better, they're more they're more cost efficient for you, 207 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,919 Like you can just jam in some restaurants, nightclubs, like all all that 208 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:48,480 sort of stuff, right as opposed to a poker room where you know, 209 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:50,799 you got to staff it. Like it's just it can kind of be a 210 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:56,039 little bit of a headache. I'm sure that said, you could still have 211 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:00,279 like a very nice place it's Las Vegas, Like, you don't necessarily have 212 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:03,240 to have a poker room to host a series, you know, so like 213 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,000 they could have you know, the their version of like the Lucky Hearts Poker 214 00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:13,360 open in Las Vegas, and maybe that's something they do if this whole December 215 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,000 thing that's been building and building now in Vegas. I mean, people are 216 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,759 calling it. It's kind of a weird name, but they're you know, 217 00:15:20,799 --> 00:15:26,559 a weird nickname is the Winter WSP because the WSP isn't actually here in town, 218 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,799 but that sort of winter festival for poker. Yeah, I could certainly 219 00:15:31,879 --> 00:15:35,480 see Seminal trying to do that here, you know, bring some of the 220 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:39,720 staff over from Florida, stuff like that, so people have some familiar faces, 221 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:41,639 they know what they're getting, you know, you you obviously know the 222 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:46,799 type of schedule that you can get or put out there for players what they 223 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:48,399 want to see. So so that's how I would tackle it, you know, 224 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,399 make it a once a year thing, not really worry about the whole 225 00:15:52,399 --> 00:15:54,559 poker room aspect, cash games, daily tournaments, et cetera. But hey, 226 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:58,519 maybe that's in the cards. I'm all for more poker. I'm just 227 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:03,279 I understand the challenges in the current landscape to do the day to day operations 228 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:07,480 of things, So that would be my suggestion. Of course, you know, 229 00:16:07,799 --> 00:16:11,120 we're talking what three, four or five years down the road, so 230 00:16:11,519 --> 00:16:17,200 lots still happen. But yeah, WPG Seminal performed well once again, would 231 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,720 expect it to continue to perform well over the years, and I mean I 232 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:23,279 really just got to got to make a trip down there at some point, 233 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,240 all right, speaking of the WPT, but this is going to be paired 234 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:33,279 with the WSP. We have the WPT World Championship, the massive festival that 235 00:16:33,399 --> 00:16:38,600 kicked off yesterday at WIN Las Vegas, and then we have WSP Paradise kicking 236 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:45,320 off on Sunday, December third at Atlantis in the Bahamas. Now, these 237 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,039 are the two biggest brands, if not arguably the two biggest brands in poker, 238 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:53,960 and they are going head to head basically in different worlds because ones in 239 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,840 Las Vegas, ones in the Bahamas. Both are guaranteeing more than fifty million 240 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:03,759 across their series, Both have massive main events, both have big high rollers, 241 00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:07,480 both have a ton of like prelim side events, post limbs, whatever 242 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:12,440 you want to call them. WPT's of course got the headlining forty million dollar 243 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:18,079 guarantee. WSOP has a fifteen million dollar guarantee. But then they also have 244 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,359 the allure of WSP goal bracelets. So it's like, how is this going 245 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:29,920 to play out? From where I stand as an onlooker, as an industry 246 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,200 person, I'm kind of here with like my popcorn in a way, just 247 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,960 I want to see how it all folds. I mean, they're just going 248 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:42,759 they're going head to head like it's it's it's kind of crazy both like in 249 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:47,039 a way where it's like why would you want to go head to head? 250 00:17:47,079 --> 00:17:49,000 Like is that really what's best for poker? But then it's also kind of 251 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:56,960 crazy where it's like competition makes everyone do bigger things and strive to be better. 252 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:02,480 So like there's a crow ton of money that's being guaranteed, are you 253 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:06,440 guaranteeing all that sort of stuff? Are you pushing the qualifier envelope as hard 254 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,880 as you are if you don't have these this giant competitor going head to head 255 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,920 with you, I don't know, maybe you are, but I mean this 256 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,200 seems like it's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm gonna be interested to 257 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:22,559 see kind of like where notable players choose to go. Obviously, Yeah, 258 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,960 that's what I care about the most, Like are we really are we going 259 00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:30,319 to say a real big push for bracelets and qualifiers and making that trip to 260 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,359 Bahamas or people gonna be like, look, I'm going to stay home. 261 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,480 I'm going to play the win. That's what I want to do. So 262 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,240 it's going to be interesting to see where these players go and actually who you 263 00:18:42,279 --> 00:18:47,480 know, decides to pick which one they want a battle line. Yeah. 264 00:18:47,519 --> 00:18:52,599 My feeling right now is a lot of the mixed game guys will probably stay 265 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:56,559 in Las Vegas. Yeah, you know, I mean, correct me if 266 00:18:56,559 --> 00:19:00,119 I'm wrong. I don't think there's that many mixed games if any onsity Paradise 267 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:03,880 is there, is there any? Yeah, So I mean that's gonna be 268 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:10,920 kind of like the the shot takers from Europe, A lot of them will 269 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,640 probably go there, or I would say non US people will probably go there. 270 00:19:15,079 --> 00:19:19,119 Anyone who's like aspiring to chase bracelets can probably go there. Obviously there's 271 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,160 a ton of qualifiers can go there. And then the high rollers is probably 272 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,279 a big thing because those high rollers there, you know, look like they're 273 00:19:26,319 --> 00:19:29,759 going to be pretty crazy. Yeah, the amount of people they're putting in. 274 00:19:29,799 --> 00:19:32,680 I think you're going to say a couple of people taking their shots. 275 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,599 So I think those will be fine. You know, when you say people 276 00:19:36,599 --> 00:19:38,599 from Europe are going to travel, yes, and no, don't forget ept 277 00:19:38,759 --> 00:19:44,359 Prague right around the corner, which is of course, Yeah, at that 278 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,000 point, it's like, you know what's going to be what's going to be 279 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:49,160 softer? Like where you know, where's my where's my ri going to be 280 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:55,680 better? And then in WPT World Championship, like I think for the the 281 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,119 forty million dollar main event, the forty million dollars guaranteed main events, you 282 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,799 know, you can go down played a lot of the WSP Paradise stuff and 283 00:20:02,839 --> 00:20:06,319 then you can come back and get into the WPT World Championship still, so 284 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,759 you know, there's gonna be a ton of people that do that. I 285 00:20:10,839 --> 00:20:15,240 think a lot of the Vegas locals will probably stick around Las Vegas and then 286 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:18,359 we'll see, you know, kind of who else comes into town. Yeah, 287 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,359 I mean, I'm just really looking forward to how it all unfolds. 288 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,440 The only thing that I really have to go off of right now is that 289 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,319 WPT World Championship kicked off yesterday. So they kicked off with they had a 290 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:34,200 six hundred dollar Omaha eight tournament that was won by Miami John Sernudo, which 291 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,079 seemed like it got a decent turnout, and then they had they had this 292 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:44,319 opening event that's a six hundred dollars buy in one million dollar guarantee tournaments. 293 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,000 It has eight flights. They had the first two yesterday. They have already 294 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,079 attracted more than six hundred entries the opening flight day one A, So they're 295 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,880 doing two flights a day, eleven am and six pm. The opening flight 296 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,000 at four hundred and four entries, which is bananas to me, like because 297 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,039 you always think that, like and I've played many of these multi flight tournaments 298 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:07,000 at the win and like you think, okay, you know, it's you 299 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,279 get like one hundred players, two hundred players on the first day, but 300 00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:14,079 then it progressively builds as you go, especially into the weekend. I mean, 301 00:21:14,519 --> 00:21:18,119 four hundred and four entries on a day one A. That's on a 302 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,920 Wednesday at eleven am. I mean that's just freaking wild. So like this 303 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:30,079 million dollar guarantee is trending in fake guarantee territory. I mean, like if 304 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,039 there's gonna get four million dollars in the price where something stupid, like what 305 00:21:33,519 --> 00:21:37,079 is happening? I'm ready to fire. I've got five bullets prepared for this 306 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,599 stupid day, So let's go. I'm gonna I'm gonna try and do it 307 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,079 on one trying to just bag some chips. But yeah, I mean, 308 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:51,279 it's it's it's gonna be fun man to watch these two things go ahead to 309 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,519 head. Of course, there are a handful of PGT qualifying events as part 310 00:21:53,519 --> 00:21:56,519 of the Dovasity Paradise series, so Tim and I are going to be closely 311 00:21:56,519 --> 00:22:02,599 playing attention to that to see, you know, who challenges for makes their 312 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,240 way into the top forty, like all all that sort of stuff as we 313 00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:10,480 move towards the PGT Championship in January. So yeah, I don't know you 314 00:22:10,519 --> 00:22:17,279 have any other thoughts on like this whole December craziness that's happening. I don't 315 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,240 like it. I don't like the fact they going to war. We could 316 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:23,720 have all been civil, but you know, that's the bed that they have 317 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:32,599 each made. So I'm honestly just gonna enjoy watching some live poker from Paradise. 318 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,240 I'm gonna watch some live poker from the strip. I'm maybe going to 319 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:41,039 play in event or two, but otherwise we're just sitting back just watching our 320 00:22:41,079 --> 00:22:44,559 tours on a little bit of a you know, break work wise. So 321 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,720 I'll put in some of the PGT results from Paradise, and then once these 322 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,240 two wraps up, everyone's got to focus on us in January, so kind 323 00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:56,039 of looking forward to that. This is like a bit of a refresh reset 324 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,839 kind of period for us from work wise. So I just gonna sit back 325 00:23:00,839 --> 00:23:03,839 and enjoy that time. Yeah, I mean, we just need to make 326 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,200 sure from a PGT aspect that these guys have money left after December, because 327 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:14,599 there's a crap ton of stuff. I mean there's also the million dollar big 328 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,279 one for one drop is happening at the win. Like that's already got what 329 00:23:17,319 --> 00:23:22,000 thirteen fourteen to fifteen players guarantee, you know, So, I mean this 330 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,359 is just it's absolutely wild. I mentioned I'm playing the six hundred dollars opener. 331 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,240 I'm gonna go down there tomorrow on Friday and get into the mix down 332 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,160 there, Gonna play a handful of events, gonna play the WPT Prime. 333 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,480 I know, Tim, you were kind of eyeing possibly firing into that one. 334 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,640 I mean this six hundred I mean six hundred dollar players in two flights, 335 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,680 I got some time. I mean, you're you're definitely gonna You're definitely 336 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:52,039 gonna see You're definitely gonna see the The second flight that takes place each day 337 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,480 is gonna be a little bit smaller than the first plight just because it's a 338 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:59,359 six pm start whatever. But i mean, still, you it, these 339 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,839 tournaments all always get bigger as the days go. So if you're drawing six 340 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,200 hundred plus on the first of four days because they're doing two per day or 341 00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:12,319 for the eight flights, then I mean you're gonna get what eight hundred today, 342 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,240 twelve hundred tomorrow. Like, I mean, it's just like, you 343 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:22,119 know, it's like it's you might crast tomorrow because we have the Permiere meetup 344 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,480 game, so you know, Today's and tomorrows might be pretty similar. I 345 00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:29,720 would expect. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's the whole thing is 346 00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:33,559 gonna be wild. As I mentioned, I'm gonna play the prime. I'm 347 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:36,720 gonna play the forty million dollar guarantee. What did I come in last year 348 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:40,240 two thirty ninth, Yeah, you saved my Christmas. That's all. That's 349 00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:42,559 right, baby, let's go. I'm going to be in that. Then 350 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,319 they got some fun events kind of at the tail end of the schedule. 351 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:48,839 They got a three k three million dollar guarantee. I'm going to fire in 352 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,960 that. They got a sixteen hundred two million dollar guarantee. I'm going to 353 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:56,039 fire in that how much do you make at this job? You must make 354 00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:59,759 three x what I make, so to be firing off all these events. 355 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:06,039 I've said it before, I'll say it again. We enjoy being transparent. 356 00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:10,319 So somebody asked me today, somebody who bought some action and if anyone out 357 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,039 there wants to buy action, shameless plug right here. But I did list 358 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,480 some events on poker steak dot com. You can find me on there. 359 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:19,319 I think that's where Tim got a piece of me. So let's go have 360 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,240 some action posted on there. But somebody asked me, you know, how 361 00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:26,359 much are you selling? I mean, I'll probably sell I don't know, 362 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:33,720 fifty percent of myself across everything that I'm playing. I mean, listen, 363 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:37,920 if you want to, like talk about bank roll management, don't listen to 364 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,720 me because because I fire hard in these things and the reason that I do 365 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:48,920 it, and this is gonna sound like I'll just say this, it's it's 366 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,039 advice that I learned from from somebody in the past where I think gave me 367 00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:56,480 some pretty good advice, and I've tried to take that advice and put it 368 00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:00,920 to use as much as possible. Is that if you're in the position to 369 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:08,440 have money like that you can like funny money in a way, like I 370 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,559 have like money that I that I use for poker and it doesn't affect like 371 00:26:12,599 --> 00:26:17,279 anything else, Like I you know, the mortgage is covered, the bills 372 00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:18,920 are covered, the kids are covered, like all that shit is covered, 373 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:22,920 right, and all this sort of stuff is is money that I have on 374 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,839 the side, and then hopefully that money grows through my poker plane. If 375 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,119 if that money were if I were to just completely wipe that money out and 376 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,079 it goes to zero, nothing in my life changes, because like I have 377 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,039 a job, you know, my wife has a job, like like, 378 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,240 thankfully we're in a position where we can do this. So basically what I'm 379 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:45,480 getting that is that like if if you can afford to press edges harder, 380 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:49,680 I think it's worth it. And especially if you're younger, Like if you're 381 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,720 somebody out there who's kind of like just getting into poker and you're like twenty 382 00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:56,839 three years old, kind of fresh out of college, I would fucking go 383 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,240 all in. Like I mean, because you're young, you can always fall 384 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:04,079 like in land on your feet and get back up and build back a bankroll 385 00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:06,960 and like all that sort of stuff. Like if you listen to a lot 386 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,839 of the old school poker players. I mean, they'll all tell you I 387 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:14,880 would say probably ninety nine percent of them they probably went broke early on in 388 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,359 their career, like seven times. But like early on, that's what it 389 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,079 takes. You can't go broke when you're fifty. You're trying to prepare for 390 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,759 your kids going to college and like that sort of stuff. So like, 391 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,720 you know, have money that like you're willing to spend. Like I'm sure 392 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,400 a lot of people out there have money that they're willing to spend on things 393 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,480 and it doesn't affect them. Like maybe you want to go out to eat 394 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,200 once a week and like that costs you know, one, two, three 395 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:38,680 hundred dollars depending on where you go, where you live, all that sort 396 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,240 of stuff. But like and if that money's not affecting you, yeah, 397 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:45,920 go do it. Have fun whatever. My fun is poker, So I 398 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,279 try to blast pretty hard when I can. You know, at the end 399 00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:53,240 of the day, if I make a run and like win WPT Prime, 400 00:27:53,319 --> 00:27:57,599 win the WPT World Championship, win any of the handful of WSP events that 401 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,559 I play in the summer, it would kill me if I had like ten 402 00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:03,000 percent of myself. Yeah, I would would want, I would want. 403 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:06,799 I would be like, I can't handle this anymore so that you know, 404 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,799 I'm gonna I need I need some bank equity, man, like let's go 405 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:15,920 you know, so and worst case like, yeah, you fire hard in 406 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,160 this dec I fire hard this December and like then I take January off, 407 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,079 February off. I mean, but I already know that, like, given 408 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,359 where I'm at that January is a ton of work for us. I'm not 409 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,039 gonna be able to play it all. Yeah, February like very similar, 410 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:34,799 like like that's when our work is fucking gung ho. So like I'm barely 411 00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:37,240 gonna be able to like do anything. But yeah, I'll play online here 412 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,960 and there. But like online you can really be bankrel conscious as you're trying 413 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,240 to build things back up. You can find ten twenty fifty dollars tournaments that 414 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,240 are extremely lucrative, right, you know, give you that same sort of 415 00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:52,160 feel and experience level when you're playing like a six hundred or a one K 416 00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:56,079 live or whatever it is. So so yeah, I mean that's just how 417 00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:57,240 it is. I'm just saying, if you can afford to do it, 418 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,319 I would say blest and that's why you're with you. I'm like, yeah, 419 00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,440 come play this six hundred. Let's go, man, like, this 420 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:06,559 is the event is gonna be insane, take a shot, let's go. 421 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,160 Yeah. I mean I'm fifty to fifty to play tomorrow, to be honest. 422 00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:11,680 Yeah, it's gonna be fun, and we all love to play at 423 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:17,200 the win. It's a fucking great place to play. All right. So 424 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:21,680 now we're gonna get into a little bit of a fun segment here. Sim 425 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,920 and I are gonna play some WPT and WSFP fantasy tims that are disadvantaged. 426 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,880 Because I am fantasy king, I can say that because we won twenty fantasy 427 00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:34,000 Wow. Okay, alright, I'm ready, so I should get for us 428 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,079 pick. Yes, I'm going to let you at first fit because of that. 429 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,680 Okay, here's how it's gonna work. We're each gonna draft three players. 430 00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:45,240 Okay, we can't share players between us, but we're gonna draft. 431 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,559 Sorry, we're gonna draft six players total, or or up to six players 432 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:53,759 total. So we're gonna draft a three player team for the WPT Festival and 433 00:29:53,839 --> 00:30:00,000 a three player team for the WSFP Festival. Okay, you can share players 434 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:02,920 if you want to. Draft Philhalmouth on both of your teams. Go ahead, 435 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,680 but you're gonna be maybe at a disadvantage because you know they're only gonna 436 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,119 be able to play. You know, they can't play the full series of 437 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:14,200 Bowl. But we're gonna do that. Only one thousand dollars and higher buying 438 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:17,759 events count. The scoring is gonna be pretty simple, most money won, 439 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,240 largest single score and most cases, so basically like one point for each. 440 00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:26,079 And the reason why I'm doing one thousand dollars or higher for the buy in 441 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,119 is because WPT World Championship Festival already kicked off, but the events that already 442 00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:34,000 happened are six hundred dollars buy in, so just gonna rule those out initially. 443 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480 Listeners, you can participate, and I would encourage you all to do 444 00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:44,680 so, because we're gonna be giving away some prizes here if you do ultimately 445 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:49,720 win. There's one catch. You cannot select any players selected by Tim and 446 00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:53,359 I. Okay, so whoever, if if Tim picks Tim or Phil Helmuth, 447 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,599 you can't pick him. If I pick forl Iv, you can't pick 448 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:04,920 him. That said, we're doing our That said, Thursday, November thirtieth 449 00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:08,559 is when Tim and I are doing this, You guys have until Monday, 450 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,519 December fourth, at eight am, Las Vegas time to get your selections in. 451 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,720 Okay, and you get your selections in by emailing your two three player 452 00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:22,079 teams, one for WPT one for WSP. Please clarify in the email email 453 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:26,079 them into podcasts at pokergro dot com. So you guys have a couple of 454 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,440 days here to like, look through live reporting, check social media to see 455 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,119 where people are going whatever. Tim and I are doing this a little bit 456 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:36,240 earlier than you guys, so you know, yes, you can't pick the 457 00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:38,359 players that we can. But you guys get a few more days to think 458 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,759 things through, maybe laugh at the picks that Tim and I make, and 459 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:47,000 go from there. And here's how you guys can win. If you sweep 460 00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:51,480 both Tim and Donnie. So you have to beat us in all three categories, 461 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,880 then we'll send you a poker Grol podcast swag pack. Okay. Oh 462 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:05,440 yeah, so basically you put it to other WPT team and you beat us 463 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,400 in the WPT, you beat both Tim and I with most money, one, 464 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:13,400 largest single score, and most cashes. Boom, you you want to 465 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,039 swag back. Okay. So that's how it's gonna go again, get your 466 00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:21,640 get your submissions in via email. We're only gonna do it via email. 467 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,119 I'm not gonna do Twitter or you know whatever. Just send him in via 468 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,519 email. EA. The emails will be time stamps so I can see if 469 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,640 you got him in by the deadline, Monday, December fourth, eight am, 470 00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:35,519 Las Vegas time. So I'm gonna go to bed Sunday night. I'm 471 00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:38,200 gonna wake up Monday morning. I'm gonna check everything at podcast at PokerGO dot 472 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:45,640 com. Hopefully we get a bunch of submissions in. Hopefully you guys you 473 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,599 know, get in there fire away, have some fun with this. I 474 00:32:49,599 --> 00:32:52,960 think it's gonna be cool. So I can't wait. I said, I'm 475 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,200 gonna let Tim go first. So I'm going to let Tim go first. 476 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,680 And here's how we're gonna do it. Tim, you can pick, so 477 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:04,960 it's gonna go. You get one, I get two, right, Yeah, 478 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,880 because it's a snake. Okay, you can say, like Phil Helmuth 479 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:13,200 WPT like he's gonna like your next pick would be your WWSP like you can 480 00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:19,039 kind of go back in the stand. Yep. So you do with the 481 00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:25,359 first pick in the in the inaugural w PT and fantasy draft him Duck with 482 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:32,480 chooses Daniel mcgrinder Team w S O P. God, that's just I mean, 483 00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:36,799 it's just it's the best pick. It really is. I mean, 484 00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:39,039 but of course, I mean yeah, of course, I mean what some 485 00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:43,359 other okay picks though, Let's come on, let's be honest. All right, 486 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:50,680 you're up two picks, all right, I have to go, oh 487 00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:54,000 god, this one, this one's like so this is where it gets so 488 00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:59,079 tricky, like god, I don't know what to do. All right, 489 00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:05,240 I'm gonna m I'm in the tank. Sorry, I know this is like 490 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,320 horrible radio, but like trying to figure out what I'm gonna do. Here 491 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,159 are you trying to decide between you? Shoot you take some WSP. I'll 492 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,559 just got WP. I'm trying to take where if I should take this person 493 00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:21,519 or where I should put them? All right, I'm gonna take I'm gonna 494 00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:25,880 take Jeremy Osmas. Oh good one w s OP. That was not who 495 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,559 I was tanking over, by the way, I I called an audible interesting. 496 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:36,840 So that's my first pick. Ye. My second pick is I'm going 497 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:45,480 with Andrew Lucky Chewye Lichtenberger. Oh WPT. I'm also banking on like what 498 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:47,079 I've kind of seen out there for where these guys are gonna be. So, 499 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,119 if you're one of these players and you're listening, don't let me down. 500 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:57,159 Okay, like Lickdenburger, better not go to Paradise. You actually threw 501 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,440 me for a loop because my second player I thought you would have drafted. 502 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,880 So now I'm like wondering if you know something that I don't know that maybe 503 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:15,840 he's not going to Paradise. Who's that? Nope, I got enough confirmation 504 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:27,559 I would like to draft Sean DEEB Team WSOP. Okay, you get another 505 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:35,880 pick, Team WSOP final pick, mister perker Steak himself. God, Joshua, 506 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,760 I wanted to take him. Oh yeah, I know, I know 507 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,559 I wanted to take him. Just lock it up. Just give me all 508 00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:49,000 the fake dollars that is up top in this fantasy job. That's the A 509 00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:53,119 plus team right there. Gosh, I'm like, I mean, I'm just 510 00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:58,599 so torn on some of this stuff. This feels like such a bad pick. 511 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:09,400 I just don't know I'm gonna go ooh. Alex foxon WPT interesting, 512 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:16,800 he's sure he's not gonna Paradise, to be honest, I'm guessing because he's 513 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,159 based in Las Vegas, because I'm pretty sure he's playing the Big One for 514 00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:28,679 one drop. He just sticks around here and blasts everything that said, even 515 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:35,880 if he goes to w SP, I mean whatever. My next pick is 516 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:45,800 going to be Jason Kuhn. He's on my w SP. Interesting, Okay, 517 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:55,400 I had him on my WPT list and the guy that I'm very surprised 518 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:01,119 he didn't dropt. I got two picks, right, Okay, Team w 519 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:08,840 PT Christopher Brewer, Team wpts Christopher Okay, Yeah, he's playing this big 520 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,360 One. He's playing the Big One, I know, I mean, like 521 00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:15,480 you know, I just don't know is he coming for is he coming for 522 00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:19,679 the early WPT so I met, you know, I just all I can 523 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:25,000 say is that he was at Ari yesterday, so maybe he's skipped. Doesn't 524 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,880 start till Sunday, so plenty of time to get down him there with my 525 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:37,199 next pick. Since you took Jason Kuhn, all right, I've got a 526 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,360 strategy. I'm going to be all in on the Big One for one drop. 527 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:51,000 Oh second picks Nick Petangela, Nick Nikki P Yeah, Nikki P. 528 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,400 This could be like a complete torch of a pick or a strategy, but 529 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:05,400 I'm doing it Jason Kuhn WPT the double, the double, that's the stand 530 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,079 double. So that this threw me off at the beginning because I was initially 531 00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,559 like, I'm gonna take Jason Kuhn. But then I was like, wait, 532 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,559 he's probably gonna go to WSP Paradise. Of course, GG Poker Association 533 00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:20,239 play all that big stuff there. Then he's gonna come back. But like 534 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,920 we know, he only plays the biggest of the big so he's playing the 535 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,480 million dollars Big One for one drop? But like, what else is he 536 00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:30,440 possibly gonna play at the WPT World Championship. That said, why I'm saying 537 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,480 I think it might be a torches. I'm pretty much betting on Jason Kuhn 538 00:38:35,559 --> 00:38:37,880 to win the Big One for one drop with this pick for WPT. But 539 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:43,000 hey, there are worse players to bet on the Jason Kuhn. So let's 540 00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:46,000 go. Yeah, all right, I have one more pick. Yes, 541 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:52,800 I have no idea. I need to do some research. Quickly, give 542 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,760 me a second here, I should just pick I should pick mine then, 543 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,840 because you doesn't, well, yeah, but what if I want to pick 544 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,960 your guy? You can? But yours is WSP minds WPT. So it's 545 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:12,320 fine if we can't share players, you can't share a player from the same 546 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:20,800 no players at all. So I thought you could take Nigrano for team WPT. 547 00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,599 I thought it was a series specific. No, okay, I'll let 548 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:27,920 you go. Then you know what you go first? Do you just do 549 00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:30,800 yours. I'm just gonna four for go that because I'm still in the tank 550 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,519 over here. I'm all in on the big one for one drop for my 551 00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:43,199 team WPT. I'm gonna draft Seminal twenty five K high Roller champion Alexi Ponokovs 552 00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:46,719 to my team. Come on down, Alexi, you are going to win. 553 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,599 You're gonna go one two three with Nikki p and Chris Brewer in the 554 00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:58,639 big for one for one drop. It's just so annoying, all right, 555 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,440 I'm going me no, damn it. See, I think I already messed 556 00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:09,840 up with this pick of Alex Foxen for WPT because I see that Kristen Foxen 557 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,000 has a crap ton of stuff listed for WSP Paradise. I mean that that 558 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:21,760 said, it can still your research. Yeah, you wank fantasy last year. 559 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,719 Sure, I think this was Matt Clark must have been. You know 560 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,360 why I won the twenty five K Fantasy last year because I researched. Because 561 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,519 I researched, my face off. I have done no research for this, 562 00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:36,559 okay, as evidenced by the fact that I'm giving up picks to you so 563 00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:43,280 I can look through stuff online. Right now, I'm gonna go with espen 564 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:50,400 Georstadt for my last WSP pick. He has stuff listed for both series. 565 00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:53,440 But I think the WPT stuff is the talent, Like they have a WPT 566 00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:59,519 Alpha eight. I don't know what else they have. So some names I 567 00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,920 had on my list. One name I was unsure about where he was going 568 00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:06,119 was a Jesse Lonis. Like, I don't know if he's going to do. 569 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,840 Your guess is as good as mine. Yeah, I thought a good 570 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:14,320 WSP one obviously because we're doing you know, most money. Like there's a 571 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,559 few different scoring categories. I thought Ben Yu could be a good one. 572 00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:22,840 Dylan Lindy could be a good one for WSP as well. But yeah, 573 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,639 no, I'm obviously when I get the three best players that are going to 574 00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:32,440 the WSP, can't complain about my team. So yeah, I want one 575 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,480 person that I was I was looking at But I mean, I'm i'd say 576 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,840 I'm probably like eighty percent confident that they're going to end up going to WSP 577 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:46,840 Paradise. And this person has had success and big success at Atlantis before and 578 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:52,119 that's China Reim, former PCA main event winner. Yeah, China Reim has 579 00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:55,960 been hot this year. He's obviously chasing PGT points. He loves you know, 580 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,639 big buy and stuff, and that's where he really sells. You know, 581 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,719 it's like once you hit the five figure price point. China Reem's like 582 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,679 one of the best players, you know, just in terms of results for 583 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,800 what he does. The guy just for whatever reason, does extremely well. 584 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:15,119 Has a bunch of stuff listed on poker Steak for the WSP Paradise series. 585 00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:19,000 That said, new Father, you know, there's obviously a lot of stuff 586 00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:22,119 going on out here in Las Vegas. So do you just kind of pass 587 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,280 up, do you cut your trip early? Like whatever? I mean, 588 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,800 I I just don't know for sure, So I passed on that pick. 589 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,440 But there's there's a lot of available players. Jonathan Little's got a lot of 590 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,280 stuff listed for WSP Paradise, you know, like that, there's a lot 591 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:43,559 of stuff available for listeners to build some teams. Get those teams into us 592 00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:46,119 again. Email your two teams, one for WPT Festival, one for the 593 00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:52,840 WSP Festival. Email them into podcasts at poker grow dot com. Play along 594 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,719 with us. If you sweep us in both If you sweep both of us, 595 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,639 I should say I should reword that sense. If you sweep both Tim 596 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,760 and Donnie in all three categories. Again, the categories are most money won, 597 00:43:06,679 --> 00:43:10,639 largest single score, and most cases, then we are going to send 598 00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:16,519 you a Poker Groat podcast swag pack. So yeah, it's gonna be fun. 599 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,039 I can't I can't wait to see all this. I like having some 600 00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:22,960 skin in the game. So we need to do more of these fantasy sort 601 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,480 of things. I don't know if we'll make them as complicated as I made 602 00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:31,039 this lost PGT Lost Chance fantasy. We could dot Last Champion one thousand PGT 603 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,199 Championship because we know forty of the players, and then we know the dream 604 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,880 Sea winners, right like we We actually should probably create some sort of company 605 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:43,920 promotion for that, So maybe we do that. But yeah, we can, 606 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,639 uh, we can start doing more of these going forward. I think 607 00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:49,159 I think they make for good, good content. All right, we got 608 00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:54,960 the Run Good Poker Series Dream Seat Invitational just wrapped up up at Thunder Valley. 609 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,880 So what this was is, if you are a run Good ring winner, 610 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,159 you could you earned eligibility to play in this event. I think it 611 00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:06,119 was a three dollars buy in, So there was a prize money on the 612 00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:10,119 side as well as Sorry, if you want a main events seat, you 613 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,400 received entry. If you're a winn, you could buy it. You could 614 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,480 buy in. Yes, a run Good main event. Sorry. Yeah, 615 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:20,840 So Jeff Platt won his ring after this was over, so he missed it 616 00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:25,920 unfortunately, but it is that's right. So there was the prize money up 617 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,239 for grabs, but most importantly, there was a dream seat up for grabs 618 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,039 for the winner. And that dream seat means you win your way to compete 619 00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:39,519 in the PGT Championship one million dollars free roll. So the winner Jeff Lennon. 620 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,920 He is the winner of the event, the Run Good Poker Series Dream 621 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,519 Seat Invitational. We will see Jeff Lennon in January January ninth at the Poker 622 00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:53,199 Studio in Las Vegas. He will be playing alongside what could potentially be Daniel 623 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,360 Legrand, You, Isaac Hackson, Andrew Liechtenberger, Steven Chidwick, Jeremy Austmas, 624 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,159 Phil Helmet, et cetera. All these players the top forty of the 625 00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:06,079 PGT Lead Award. Jeff Lennon will be in there. He qualified through our 626 00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:09,880 partnership with the Run Good Poker Series. Lennon won his Run Good ring in 627 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:15,280 an eleven hundred dollars one day Deepsack event at Greyton back in March. He 628 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,639 took home a bit over twenty thousand dollars for that win. That allowed him 629 00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:22,039 to earn the eligibility to play in the dream Set Invitational. And then he 630 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:24,519 came out on top in the dream Set Invitational. He won that dream seat, 631 00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,519 so we'll see him in January at the studio. And then he also 632 00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:32,239 took home five four hundred dollars in prize money to go along with the dream 633 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,480 Seat. Can't wait to see mister Lennon. I mean, it's just cool 634 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,159 to get these dream Seed winners in. We've got a handful of them that 635 00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:43,039 are going to be coming out to compete in the PGT Championship event, so 636 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,639 very very cool there. And then Game of Gold, Buddy, we're through 637 00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:53,320 what episode nine? Now, yes, that sounds right. Nine episode nine, 638 00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:58,960 episode Well we just episode nine was released yesterday, which was Wednesday. 639 00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:05,960 Episode ten comes tomorrow. We finally got some drama along the lines of what 640 00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:09,760 Tim and I we're talking about on the recent podcast episode if you listen to 641 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:15,559 that, and what I mean by that is there was two big dramatic moments 642 00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:19,920 for me. One was you had David Williams freaking out against Charlie Carroll. 643 00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:23,119 A lot of f words were dropped, yelling, like yelling, I mean, 644 00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:29,280 it's like and like also like the contrast in the characters, Like I'm 645 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,440 not sure you could have two more contrasting characters right like you have you have 646 00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:42,119 David Williams, who like comes up in poker. He's always like extremely stylish, 647 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,159 like he's got a diamond toothpick when he shows up to NBC heads up, 648 00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:50,280 Like his hair is always like lined up nicely, like he's driving a 649 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,400 tesla, like all this sort of stuff. Right on the other side, 650 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:59,639 you have a very free going Charlie Carroll, long hair down to his chest. 651 00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:02,679 He's wearing a shirt that's just wide open showing his body. Like, 652 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,199 I mean, it's just the contrast of the character. Charlie's trying to take 653 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,039 like a very zen approach to like this argument. David's just dropping the F 654 00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:15,159 bombs yelling at him. Andy Stacks is like just kind of in there, 655 00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:17,639 like trying to be like the mediator between the two, but he was not 656 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,320 working as the mediator. He's like, guys, you know, guys, 657 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,199 guys. David's like fuck this, fuck that whatever, and Charlie's like, 658 00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:27,920 you can't be doing this to me when I'm about to go play, like 659 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,719 you're messing with my energy. Like the whole thing was just that's the type 660 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,840 of entry. And then after it all, they hug it out like they 661 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,920 hug it out and they're like I love you man, Like let's go in 662 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,840 there and win. So like that's the type of like fun reality TV drama 663 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,599 that we wanted to see. So that was the first one. The other 664 00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:51,800 one was you had Olga Emilcheva starts crying because because she she lost a heads 665 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,199 up turbo sitting goo like with a with a bad structure against a good player. 666 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,960 Like it's like, you know, I don't know, I know, 667 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,199 but I know it shows that she cares. But I'm saying like I didn't 668 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:07,480 expect it to happen, Like so she's like she's extremely upset that she first 669 00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,400 you have before she even goes to play, you have her in her team 670 00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:16,119 room. It's her, it's Nikita Kuther and it's uh Robin Poker, which 671 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,719 I forget his real name, but well, Lucas Robinson, Lucas Robinson, 672 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,400 I always forget is known by Robin Poker, but uh, Lucas Robinson is 673 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,159 like super positive, we're gonna win. We gotta believe. I know it's 674 00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:31,079 gonna be hard, but we got this whatever, and Olgus like flat out 675 00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:36,519 like we don't have a chance waiting a miracle. It's not gonna happen whatever. 676 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,280 So like in a way, she's like she's on one side of it, 677 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,719 like going into the match and like you know, Lucas Robinson's like trying 678 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,039 to amper up, and then nikey To comes in. She's like, guys, 679 00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:49,239 let's all hold hands, let's meditate. The whole episode's all over the 680 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,400 place. Then Olga goes into the match, loses, and she's crying because 681 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,079 she let her team down and didn't perform well. And I'm like that's such 682 00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:02,280 a one eighty from where you were premat so like yeah, and like she's 683 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,039 in there, Lucas Robinson has to go out and play and take on Charlie 684 00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:08,199 Carroll for the next round, and like Nikid is trying to console her on 685 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,280 the couch, she's crying. She's crying in that little one on one interview 686 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,800 they do with her, like, yeah, she feels bad, so like 687 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,760 it shows that she really cares about performing well, probably for herself and also 688 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,639 for the teammates. You know, she maybe she's crying because she feels like 689 00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:27,719 she just looked like an idiot or something on TV. I don't know. 690 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,360 I don't know exactly why she's crying. It's probably all of those things like 691 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,360 thrown into a pot and involved in one thing. But yeah, but those 692 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,400 two like dramatic moments. I think we're good. The one that happened before, 693 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,960 like you know, Jungleman and Yo Viral, like that was I feel 694 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,800 like the highlights overplayed it. It wasn't really it didn't really meet expectation, 695 00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:51,360 Like I was thinking they were really good. I loved it. Oh yeah, 696 00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:52,960 yeah, it was fun, don't get me wrong, But like I 697 00:49:52,039 --> 00:49:55,920 was expecting more. I was expecting more like David Williams Charlie Carroll, which 698 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,679 I think was like way more like in your I mean, David Williams went 699 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,760 in like he was like, no, this is fucking wrong, like what 700 00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:06,960 like blah blah blah. The whole thing was was pretty crazy. So so 701 00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:09,840 yeah, I definitely think they need to lean into that sort of stuff more. 702 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:17,800 My my concern would be that we got the drama that we wanted, 703 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,840 at least you and I wanted, and I know you and I have talked 704 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,039 to a lot of people that have kind of like agreed on wanting more drama 705 00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:28,880 with a reality based show like this. We got it in episode nine. 706 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,400 So did you lose people before you really showed it? Which hurts? Like 707 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,360 do people just kind of turn it on they're like, yeah, I'm not 708 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,760 really into this. It's kind of whatever, so I'm just not going to 709 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,480 continue. But if you would have stuck around, you stuck it out episode 710 00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:45,159 nine, they delivered like the people are screaming at each other like okay, 711 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,639 yeah, one person crying like let's go. This is it? So yeah, 712 00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:52,559 So I guess those are like my initial thoughts overall, and I'll let 713 00:50:52,639 --> 00:50:54,760 you kind of give yours right now. No, I agreed with everything you 714 00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:00,519 just said. I I liked how I know, we discussed Maria or a 715 00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:04,039 little bit last time. She got a little spicy. She was given it 716 00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:07,599 to jungle, you know, like are you scared of girls? And like 717 00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:12,320 giving him a bit of a bit of shick while they're playing heads up. 718 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,840 So I enjoyed that. Obviously she crushed the heads up matches and wanted for 719 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,280 her team. But yeah, I think we got some drama. Did they 720 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,480 leave it too late? Maybe? But I'm still in. I'm still ready. 721 00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:30,239 I'm ready for tomorrow's episode, ready for Monday's episode. I'm all in 722 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:37,239 on Game of Gold. I think Maria has really like shined through. Yeah, 723 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:42,679 overall, so I think probably mostly from her play and listen, she 724 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,079 addressed it, you know, right to the camera. She said, you 725 00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:49,880 know a lot of times people kind of put me in this little bucket where 726 00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:54,440 I'm a really good female poker player. And she said, I'm a really 727 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,360 good poker player. And that's true. Like if you know Maria and you've 728 00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:00,840 watched her the years, and you watch the play, she's a very good 729 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,320 poker player. Like she doesn't have to be, you know, put in 730 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,920 this little camp of just the women. No, she's extremely good overall, 731 00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:12,199 I think you can probably hear that when you've listened to her on commentary or 732 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,199 when you've watched her over the years. She's on tons of live streams, 733 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,079 you know, throughout she's made some deep runs and tournaments all that sort of 734 00:52:19,079 --> 00:52:22,280 stuff, so you've probably been accustomed to that. But then also like watching 735 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,000 her in this element, I thought she played extremely well in the heads up 736 00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:30,719 format, which is which is good. So yeah, that that team to 737 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,400 me, well, I don't I don't know how long that team's gonna go 738 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,320 forward, but the team of Mariajo josh Aria, Fador Holtz, like that 739 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,320 was a fun team to me. You know, like josh Ari always like 740 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:43,239 kind of rooting in the background. You got the the strategy and the the 741 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,159 analytical side from Fador, who you know. I mean they talked about at 742 00:52:46,159 --> 00:52:50,079 the beginning, like Fador kind of coached them a little bit or gave them, 743 00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:52,760 you know, some tips early on, some advice on how to approach 744 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,920 the heads up stuff. So you get like that sort of element from things. 745 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,519 And then Marie just went out there and did her thing and crushed it. 746 00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:02,639 So yeah, I mean, I'm I'm excited for it going forward. 747 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,440 I don't really know what's how it's going to continue to play out, Like, 748 00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:09,079 I just don't know where the format's going from here, you know, 749 00:53:09,159 --> 00:53:14,039 Like when do they break up to individuals? Right Like, obviously that's gonna 750 00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:16,920 happen because there's only one another. I'm guessing there's another vote off soon and 751 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,920 then they'll be down to well I think, I think so. Right now 752 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,480 they're in they're in four teams of three. Yeah, two teams that one 753 00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:27,400 are like in the finals. The other two teams are in the loser's brackets. 754 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,679 So I'm assuming the loser of the loser's bracket is going to be gone 755 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,800 see you later. And that's why the team of Lucas Robinson, Olga Imocheva, 756 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,119 Nikita Luthor like need to do so much because they have the lowest amount 757 00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:42,440 of gold coins total among their teams, so they need to they need to. 758 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,599 I don't know if they can do it now that that Olga loss to 759 00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:47,480 Charlie Carroler. I don't know if they needed to sweep all the matches or 760 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,440 how that worked out, but they you know, they they need to beat 761 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,320 them for sure to even give themselves the chance of advancing. And then we'll 762 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,960 we'll see where it goes from there. So I'm still kind of out on 763 00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:02,480 dan Keats and then we talked about it last time, but like, you 764 00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:07,639 know me, listen, Kina England is like trying to engage with him, 765 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,159 Yeah, and he's just like not, he's not into it, like or 766 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:15,119 he's asleep or he's asleep. It's like, dude, you're killing me here. 767 00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:21,480 So yeah, the only thing I like about Jungle is that Vasaci shirt. 768 00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:24,440 He was wearing the red and I looked at I was like, oh, 769 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,079 I could put I send this to a photographer Antonio because we were both 770 00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:31,440 We're both watching the episode and I was like, I dig this shirt. 771 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,320 I really want to buy the shirt. Looked it up, you know, 772 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,199 a thousand dollars. So I quickly decided not to get that shirt. But 773 00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:43,000 yeah, johnle bottom of the barrel, Charlie, you're heading down that way. 774 00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:49,000 Maria trending up, Olga, she's trending up too. Showed shit that 775 00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:54,000 she cared. I think that's important. David Williams MVP. All we needed 776 00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:58,559 was a punch, just a swing that it was so good like I could 777 00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:01,000 have I honestly, I could have without the the hugging and making up at 778 00:55:01,039 --> 00:55:06,119 the end of it, just let it stew, you know, like fighting. 779 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,480 You know. I also think it's I think it's interesting because like poker 780 00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:16,800 is such a small industry, like comparatively to like other really big industries, 781 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,639 right that, Like I've seen a lot of the players. I've seen fad 782 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,800 Or, I've seen Charlie Carroll, I've seen Jungle Man, like get on 783 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:29,880 social media and likes say their thoughts or defend themselves. And like, I 784 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,960 don't know if I see like people on from regular reality shows or maybe I'm 785 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,440 just not paying this close attention and I could just be totally wrong, but 786 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,599 like go on social media and like defend themselves to some sort of community or 787 00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:45,599 whatever. Like are people on like the Challenge who fight each other? Like, 788 00:55:45,639 --> 00:55:50,119 are they like then going on social media and like defending themselves. I 789 00:55:50,159 --> 00:55:52,760 don't know, I feel like that's kind of that might be more. It 790 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,119 might just be that I see it more because I'm in poker, so I 791 00:55:55,159 --> 00:56:00,320 see all the poker of course, which which certainly could be. But there's 792 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,440 definitely some of that out there, like, you know, so if you 793 00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:05,039 if you're out there and you're watching these episodes, I would say hop on 794 00:56:05,079 --> 00:56:08,440 social media afterwards, because everyone seems to be like interjecting their thoughts on like 795 00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:12,360 either like some of the decisions that were made for like who goes first, 796 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,159 or that maybe some of the hands that were played. Certainly some of the 797 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,039 more dramatic moments that have happened, you know, people are saying like, 798 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,559 I, you know, I felt this way, I felt that way, 799 00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:24,360 you know whatever, So that stuff is all out there to consume, and 800 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,760 overall, I think it's it's it's it's rounding, it's rounding the corner in 801 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,719 a way. You know, you and I are both like, we need 802 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,280 more of a drama element to this whole thing, and now we've turned a 803 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,840 corner. So we'll see if that keeps up going forward. And yeah, 804 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:44,519 I mean I also enjoy the Josh and Fatal romance because yeah, they're very 805 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,599 I think that I would say they kind of poll the opposite poker plays, 806 00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:50,880 right, we have well one's young, ones old, one's a live player, 807 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,039 one's an online like or came from the online world, right. You 808 00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:57,760 know, it's like they're just they're so different and they're bonding over you know 809 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,400 that the team camaraderie, you know, the teammate Maria crushing and that bit's 810 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:06,599 actually been like they win a big pot, they embraced this massive hug and 811 00:57:06,679 --> 00:57:09,519 high fives like that's fine. Like shows that like also shows that those two 812 00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:15,559 care too, And I think for sure, yeah, I would say also 813 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,559 like Andy Stas just feels like the odd man out and like the whole thing, 814 00:57:20,679 --> 00:57:23,440 like he's just he's very quiet, he doesn't have a loud personality. 815 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:28,760 He's he's just there, like he's a cash game player, while all of 816 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:34,559 these guys are predominantly MTT guys. So yeah, yeah, I mean it 817 00:57:34,639 --> 00:57:37,719 is a Viral might be cashed or Jungleman might be cash. I mean they 818 00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:40,239 play tournaments. Of course, Viral has a lot of empty t success general, 819 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,679 I know, but he also plays a lot of like high stakes cash 820 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,320 plays and bobbies and like stuff like that, right, so you know, 821 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,679 he's kind of like a he can do do it all type of thing, 822 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,840 whereas you know, Andy Stax is for sure like I just play cash like 823 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,639 that's what I do, you know. So so yeah, which I'm I 824 00:57:54,639 --> 00:58:00,559 guess I'm a little bit surprised because I think a lot of success live cash 825 00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:04,079 game guys, which I think Andy stacks is. I think he's very good 826 00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:07,760 at live cash. They have a lot of personality and they are pretty colorful. 827 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:13,400 Because in order to keep games fun, to keep getting into good games 828 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,559 like, you have to have that, right. You can't just be like 829 00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:19,400 a robot at the table, right. You can be a robot at the 830 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,119 table in a tournament, doesn't matter, but in a cash game like, 831 00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:23,199 there is some ofch sort of that stuff like it. You know, it 832 00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:28,760 trends on the into the politics of the whole live cash game scene. But 833 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,320 but yeah, I'm interested in that. So so yeah, it's it's a 834 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:36,119 it's been a fun watch. I'm certainly into it again. I think, 835 00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:39,000 going back to what we talked about last time, the big takeaway that I 836 00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:44,039 have is that there is an appetite for this within poker. So I'm excited 837 00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:47,320 to see what possibly happens with season two. We won't get into it now, 838 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,719 but I'm just gonna put it out there so Tim and I can start 839 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,360 thinking of it. Is that as this season comes to a close, we 840 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:58,480 should start thinking of who we would want to see on season two, which 841 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,800 I think would be that could be a fun extit size you know, down 842 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,519 the road. But of course, still in season one here of Game of 843 00:59:02,519 --> 00:59:06,880 Gold. It does air on the gg Poker YouTube channel every Monday, Wednesday, 844 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,199 and Friday. I've heard they have fourteen total episodes, sixteen total episodes, 845 00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:14,079 eighteen total episodes during the season. I have no idea how many they 846 00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:16,639 have. They've done nine. Another one's coming out tomorrow, So we got 847 00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:20,599 a handful of them coming up, and we're gonna see how this goes. 848 00:59:20,639 --> 00:59:25,599 I'm guessing after we get out of this this heads up group stage that they're 849 00:59:25,639 --> 00:59:29,760 in and we're gonna be left with nine players would be my guess is how 850 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:34,400 it works. That's when they break into individual stuff. But we'll see how 851 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,880 it goes. Even yeah, some kind of maybe they have to get down 852 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,079 at eight and then we can split it up. The heads up they're like 853 00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:45,320 a bracket stole. Maybe we'll see how it goes going forward. But Tim 854 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:49,079 and I are both fans, and uh, we're gonna be talking about this, 855 00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:50,960 I don't know, every every week or so, every time there's a 856 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,480 new like handful of episodes. Yeah, we're gonna hit on this and uh 857 00:59:53,639 --> 00:59:58,079 yeah, but yeah, that's gonna do it for the pod again, don't 858 00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:01,599 forget to get your submissions in for the WPT and w SP fantasy that Tim 859 01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:06,519 and I are running, and I really don't think we have anything else. 860 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,440 No, hopefully we got Sixtus. Good luck to you too. Let's go 861 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,519 get out there. You're coming to play, and hopefully we can update the 862 01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:17,920 tomorrow tomorrow eleven a. M. All right, I'm coming, I got 863 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,480 bullets, I'm ready to go. I'm ready to fire like blast away baby 864 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,679 to the moon. Hopefully I do like I think what Ryan Laplant did. 865 01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:30,519 One bullet, find a bag, decent, stack a bunch of days off, 866 01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:35,639 return on Sunday, and continue on. That's that's the goal. So 867 01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:39,079 all right for Tim Duckworth, my name is Donny Peters. We're gonna wrap 868 01:00:39,079 --> 01:00:43,920 it up here and we will talk to you guys next week. Face