WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.319 --> 00:00:07.080 Hey, hello, and welcome to building a mystery. I'm your host, 2 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:14.519 ephemeral legazi Boo, I got you. That's my thing. Whitney as always 3 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:18.280 as my co host and total equal in every way, with the exception of 4 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:23.559 a few racist comments. Paula scream hi to y'all. Now, I think 5 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:28.320 we can all look past them racial comments, and I think that we can 6 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:33.880 just move on to the things that are important, like incorporeal food. Boo. 7 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:38.560 She nailed it all right. Today I'm building a mystery. We'll be 8 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:42.560 building a real favorite. Everybody loves this. You bring your friends over, 9 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:47.119 you want to have a party. This is a piece of urban legend with 10 00:00:47.320 --> 00:00:52.320 falsified internet history to make it seem ancient, going back to the Middle Ages. 11 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:58.159 Everybody, I just love this. I serve it every Halloween to all 12 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:02.640 my guests and they all just go out of the damn minds for it. 13 00:01:03.039 --> 00:01:07.239 True words never spoken there, Paula. I mean, my friends lose there 14 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:12.000 when I make this. It's a classic recipe. It borrows a little something 15 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:18.480 old, something new. It's like the wedding of recipes for scary people. 16 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:23.439 That it is. Paula. Once again, you have mailed it all right, 17 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:26.400 So for this mystery. What we're gonna start with is your stand in 18 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:30.560 thin watery ghost tail base. Okay, then we're gonna spooking up a notch 19 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:37.000 boo. We're gonna add in some white lies. Okay, it's really gonna 20 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.000 change the flavor. Well, if there's any lies that are the best, 21 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:45.359 damns the wines, why even Italian's like you can enjoy that playing with fire, 22 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:49.159 Paula, Speaking of which, I'll turn the oven onto four twenty five. 23 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:53.799 Thank you. Now to this thin watery ghost story base. We got 24 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.959 some white lies going in there. Now we're gonna add some creepy pasta. 25 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:01.599 Now I know what you're thinking, what is that? I had the same 26 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:06.959 question, Paula. Tell them about creepy pasta. Creepy pasta is the best 27 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:12.159 cause there ain't no GMOs in there. You get all the flavor, all 28 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:15.879 the texture, double the price, and you gotta you gotta spend if you 29 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:22.319 want to impress. That's what I always say, spend to impress. Okay, 30 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:24.719 yeah, you're really coming to that, Paula. I was going for 31 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:30.360 more like creepy pasta is ghost stories told by kids who played Mario Brothers too 32 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:35.400 much anyway, and then you're gonna add a falsified backstory on the Internet, 33 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:40.520 including photo manipulated manuscripts and dutchings from the Middle Ages. Now where I come 34 00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:44.919 from in the South, if you want to manipulate a photo, you're gonna 35 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.879 have to get the scissors out. Well, not this recipe. You can 36 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:53.759 do it all on paula screen dot com. I don't know how the hell 37 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:57.039 to use the Internet, but they tell me it's on there, so I 38 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.360 think you should go on there. Give it a looky, go to paula 39 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:05.599 scream dot com. Go to ephemeral legassi dot org slashing that. All right, 40 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:07.039 so we've got our base in there, we got our ingredients. We're 41 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:10.719 gonna throw that in the oven at four twenty five. Thank you, Paula. 42 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:15.599 All right, and uh now, while with that cooks, let's talk 43 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:22.719 a little bit about falsified in that history urban legends. I like to reduce 44 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:29.280 falsified urban history legends down to a nice, uh simmering broil. And then 45 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:35.759 I like to put in just a few old moth eaten raiments from the cemetery 46 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:38.199 just down the street. Chop local. All right, now, now you 47 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:42.319 like to you like to you like to boil down history a little bit dow. 48 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:45.960 I mean, for example, one thing that didn't make your reduction the 49 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.479 Holocaust. You don't believe in it. I don't believe it adds anything to 50 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:53.120 the flavor of history when you're putting it in your meals. Now, I 51 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:57.840 like to replace it with some muslim soaked in butter. Just slather it on 52 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:01.520 there. If you don't slather, something's the matter? Right you up? 53 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:05.199 Paula and as Johnny Cochrane taut America. If it rhymes, it has to 54 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:10.599 be true. Who now, a'll all basse heats up? Paula. Paula's 55 00:04:10.639 --> 00:04:13.240 chopping up a little bit of extra something. We're gonna spook it up. 56 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:15.120 And notch boom, Paula, what's you chopping up that? Into that? 57 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:20.720 I've got some glazed scarrets right here. I've used my family recipe from the 58 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:26.279 South. Basically, all they are as carrots covered in muslin, covered in 59 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:30.439 butter, slathered, because if you don't slather, it don't matter right phrase 60 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:32.560 that fhemall you shut up? Don't you dare use it? That's from the 61 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:35.959 South. Boo boo boo, spook it up? And notch, how's it? 62 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:39.759 How's it? Taste in your mouth. Huh bet, it doesn't taste 63 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:42.399 like it's from the south. All right, back it down there, Paula. 64 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.920 So these carrots are gonna be put in here right after it comes out 65 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:47.959 of the oven. You just want to slide them on in there. They're 66 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.399 gonna be hot and ready. You're gonna be hot and ready the oven. 67 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:54.199 It's gonna be hot, so don't touch it. But it don't matter because 68 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:56.800 you probably did. All Right, we got a basse coming out. You 69 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:00.560 notice it's reduced nicely. It's got a nice thin gloss to it. Now 70 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:02.759 I'm gonna pull this up. Damn it. That's hot, all right. 71 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:08.240 Our mystery is cooling nice late. Now we're gonna reincorporate that with a little 72 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:12.120 bit. Now early on, I held back some of the thin watery base. 73 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:16.319 We're gonna reincorporate that, and it's gonna provide a really nice uh sauce 74 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:19.680 for our mystery. You're just gonna want to suck it out of the dish 75 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:25.120 once it's done. It's gonna be that boom. Suck it right out of 76 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:27.639 the dish. All right, here we go. I'm gonna serve this up 77 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:30.199 now. Actually, I'm using my mom's nice plates for this, Paula, 78 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:32.160 because you're you're, as always an added guest. It's a special day, 79 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:36.319 says my mom's china. Uh, don't break it. There you're going. 80 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:40.240 There is a heap in helping in this mystery for you. I got, 81 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:42.839 I got plenty for me. You got spoon a little extra sauce. I'm 82 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:46.240 already done good. Could he use a little bit more Muslim Kevin and butter 83 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.720 slathered. I have yet to taste it, and yet we are out of 84 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:54.160 time, so I will have to take your word for it, Paula. 85 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:59.319 So for this episode of building a mystery, I'm boom ephemeral Legazi with me 86 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.040 as always, my lovely co host, Paula screamed, Paula, say good 87 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:10.079 night. Paula is occupied with what I think is a dish rag. Good 88 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:21.199 night, everybody, evening. Welcome to a racially charged episode Blue Fodo. 89 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:27.680 Oh you can't. You can't do that person without yeah, without touching the 90 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.439 subject. Nope, that's why she's famous. I mean that in the butter 91 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:38.839 Lording, Lord, where's my butter Messiah? And then I felt like, 92 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:43.439 I mean, it felt like you know that part and that everyone the scariest 93 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:45.920 part in the first Lord of the Rings, or maybe it was the last 94 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:50.199 one where where kindly old Bilbo gets like crazy face about the ring and like 95 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:54.439 when Paula Deane lost all that weight and then she just looked like that all 96 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:59.879 the time. That's the My sister was a I mean, I'm I'm ambivalent. 97 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.639 Cooking shows, there's that one woman whose name I can't pronounce, and 98 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:10.560 she looks like she's got the alien in her mouth Chiata. She looks like 99 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:15.759 she I thought she was famous just for being like an attractive She's good looking, 100 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:19.120 but when she smiles, it's like the alien smiling, and I swear 101 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:25.399 there's a smaller alien head in her mouth that goes ting ting ting. Wow. 102 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:30.279 I don't care who I hurts. Had a long discussion today about the 103 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:36.600 importance of anti defamation insurance or I think it's just defamation insurance. I got 104 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:42.319 it. Oh we should get it for this, but yeah whatever, fine 105 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:46.639 me bitches. Oh he does not kill who he hurts. I'm David Stacco, 106 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.920 I'm David Flora. That'll help your search. Yeah, there you go. 107 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:55.879 You've already found blurry photos, Yes you did, And we're building a 108 00:07:56.120 --> 00:08:01.199 mystery no, we don't build them. We just we just write the manuals. 109 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:09.040 We're the technical writers for the mystery industry, the miss the mindustry, 110 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:18.480 mindustry, mindistry, then industry. H yeah, well we're off to that 111 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:22.040 start. Yeah. I hello everybody. I'm happy to be back from my 112 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:26.079 mystical trip from beyond time and space. You went, you went across a 113 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:31.879 state? Yeah, on two wheels. I was a righteous participant in rag 114 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:35.960 Bry, which stands for the Registers Annual Great Bike Ride across Iowa, four 115 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:41.919 hundred and eighteen miles of pure Northern Iowa deliciousness and fun this year. Wow. 116 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:46.240 You you rode through hell and back. It was only crappy one day, 117 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.639 one bad day weather. Other than that, it was glorious and fun 118 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:54.240 and everyone was nice and I kept I got the idea once I was already 119 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:56.960 out there, which was too late because it's not like you can go to 120 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.679 a craft shop once it starts. And I even tried to attach a sign 121 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:07.279 to my back that said asked me about the unknown, and yeah no I 122 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.240 the sign wouldn't stay on, and when it finally blew off, I was 123 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.960 like, I'm not stopping my bike to go back and get it. That's 124 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:18.039 just me littering now. Um but no, it was a lot of fun 125 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.120 and it was it was cool. I'm gonna do it again next year. 126 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:22.799 I'm going to talk to mister Flora into doing it with me. He's gonna 127 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.600 try to talk that's right doing. And I'm gonna talk all of our listeners 128 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:30.679 into doing it. We can make a blurry photos team. That'd be fun. 129 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.679 Yeah. Fun. You guys can be like, hey, Stecco, 130 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:39.039 be funny and I'll be like, you shut up. It was just stupid, 131 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.519 you know what? You know what? The only thing I can think 132 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.240 of, and that is giving you the listener. The tip if you ever 133 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:54.879 meet a comedian, a stand up and improviser, a person who does sketch 134 00:09:54.919 --> 00:10:03.840 comedy, never ever ever say the phrase say something funny. It's the worst 135 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:07.840 thing you can say to a person. Yeah, nobody comes up to you 136 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:11.120 and asks you to do their taxes immediately, you right there on the spot. 137 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:16.159 If you're a fan of Dead Eyed Stairs, however, you'll find few 138 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.759 or more effective tools. That's true. Any there you go, there's there's 139 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:24.480 your psah. So don't don't ask Dave to say something funny. But because 140 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:30.320 we'll talk about the unknown and all all ride long. Yep. Now, 141 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:35.960 let me ask you this, was it worse on your cardio system or was 142 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.919 it worse on your your muscles doing this? Um? You know what I 143 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:45.360 truth be told neither. The worst part is what I will uphimistically refer to 144 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:48.639 as one's saddle. You need you need, Like I trained for this for 145 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:52.360 a while, and I realized pretty early on. It's the training. I 146 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:56.799 mean, it helps to you know, be ready, like get your body 147 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:58.919 ready to ride a lot. I mean it's like it averages out to like 148 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:03.559 it's seventy miles a day or so. Like what you need is leathern nethers. 149 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:07.879 Like the real payoff for a lot of training is it just gets you 150 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.120 used to being in a bike seat for a very long time. And that's 151 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:15.519 that's really what you need. You can't afford to have like saddle sores or 152 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:18.200 anything. And I didn't. I Like I came out fine with that, 153 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:22.000 and I think that was that's the hardest part. Like you get tired occasionally, 154 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:24.279 but you you know, you you're you're very used to it and it 155 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:28.320 and it you recover instantly from it. But it's the it's the being on 156 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:31.240 a bike seat for you know, six hours a day, and you have 157 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.840 breaks and you get off a lot. But that's that's the real gem of 158 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:39.080 training, is to get ready to be on a bike seat all day. 159 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:46.799 Leathern nethers, leathern nethers, that's my um trademark phrase. You can't have 160 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.639 it. It's mine, Flora. What are you got going on? Oh 161 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:56.519 god, I'm the opposite, the other end of the spectrum. Through my 162 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:00.799 through my back out. Poor guy getting better, re threw it out. 163 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.480 So it's uh, it's it's not the best. In fact, it maybe 164 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:07.919 the opposite of that. Yeah. I mean, if anyone who's ever hurt 165 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:11.559 their back knows that, there's it's just the worst. You can't you can't 166 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:16.559 write a letter without your back hurting. Um. So, just trying to 167 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:22.120 deal with that wampam mp whamp. But some fun stuff on the horizon, 168 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:31.840 including Ridden Fair. That's right, it's time for us to Jenny back in 169 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:41.200 time to a world before refudgeration. Yeah, we're gonna go to Renfair and 170 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:48.000 man be Asholes the When we first started this podcast, that's right, it 171 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.600 was one one of our one of our first episodes was after a long day 172 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.919 at ye old rind Fair. Yeah. Maybe was it our actual first? 173 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.399 Maybe our second? It may have I think it was, yeah, second 174 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.440 or third? Yeah, I think it was Jersey Devil for Jersey some reason. 175 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:07.759 I think that's what it was. One of those, one of those 176 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:13.879 first few. And here we are two years later, two damn years leader 177 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:20.120 two years and did we have two of anything else? Flora? We had 178 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:26.840 one of something? Last year we were finalists for a PARSEC Award. Oh 179 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:33.960 well, I wonder if that'll ever happen again. We're a finalist for a 180 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:39.840 PARSEC Award. A kid, that's right. I haven't sent us our our 181 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:45.480 our badge, our image, our button, our our button yet, but 182 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.000 we're just go on and say it. We're finalists again. Yeah. We 183 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:54.879 made the shortlist for podcast nominations. Yep. We are up for best Fact 184 00:13:54.919 --> 00:14:00.759 behind the Fiction Podcast. That's right, because the best part behind the fiction 185 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:05.879 category was taken. It's taken my NASA again only enough. Yeah, those 186 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:11.039 guys they cover a lot of ground there. NASA. Yep, got some 187 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.720 stiff competition again this year, so we're looking forward to it. I'm ready 188 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:18.600 to throw down. I will tell you right now. I have not booked 189 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:24.039 a trip more plane or a bus. No more Heart of Darkness explorations into 190 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:30.279 your own madness. Nope, no more watching the sun rise from Nashville. 191 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.759 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and no no Dragon con But uh yeah, 192 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:39.879 I'm okay with that. It was it was real crowded. Yeah, 193 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.639 we're going to our We're going to go to the our own magnificent rent ren 194 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.279 ren con Um. So well, yeah, if we we We've got some 195 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.399 some costume ideas. If we decide to go through with that, we'll put 196 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.360 some pictures up of that. Yeah. Once again, the time bug, 197 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:00.320 when you try to catch it, it just flies right on out the window, 198 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:03.279 tempest fugeoning all over your face. Um. And I don't think I'll 199 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:09.600 have a costume ready, although we've got some pretty sweet ideas. I got 200 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:11.799 a whole week. We've got a whole week to put it together. Whole 201 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:15.639 week we're gonna do everything else. It'll be great, it'll be great. 202 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:18.480 So yeah, that's not what you're here. Yeah, I know you don't 203 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:22.559 care about our costuming plans, nor do you care about making a mystery. 204 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:26.919 No, but you care about other things in the Midwest, that's right, 205 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.919 Not rinfairs, not rag bries. How about monks, monks, mounds. 206 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:37.279 How about old ass civilizations you didn't even know existed? That's right? How 207 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:50.600 about a North American native civilization that rivaled the Mayans? What Cookia the cookiest 208 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:56.879 place on earth? You burned it? That's right? Ever heard of it? 209 00:15:56.519 --> 00:16:00.720 I hope not, because that'll make things more interesting, real weird if 210 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:07.639 you. Yeah, Cahokia Uh located not just across the Old River from a 211 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.720 place we call Saint Louis these days, That's what I've heard. Uh, 212 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:15.200 in the same state we're in right now. Yep, however far away, 213 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:19.559 probably the opposite end of where we are. Ye, had we time and 214 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:23.200 vehicle, we might take a field trip down there. Yeah. So yeah, 215 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:29.279 maybe in the near future. But how about we tell you what the 216 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:33.000 hill Cahokia is? Who lived there, what happened to him? Why? 217 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:37.559 Why don't more people know about it? M And what's great about this? 218 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:42.279 Cahokia is? Is an awesome fit for a subject for us? Yeah? 219 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:47.559 Because I mean, for one thing, it's it's a relatively unknown side of 220 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:52.679 huge importance history is there. We we love we love covering that aspect of 221 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:57.279 subjects. It's also a delicious mystery. Yeah, there's there's a uh, 222 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:03.759 it's it's a giant. Its highest point forty thousand people. That that was 223 00:17:03.920 --> 00:17:10.720 not rivaled again in North America until seventeen eighty, that's right, And so 224 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:11.880 I mean it was. This was a huge place. It was, it 225 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:15.720 was a very important and almost no one knows anything about it. It was 226 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:22.440 completely abandoned by the time European settlers came to the New World. Will will 227 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:26.400 by the time. Yeah, let's give you an overview of this place. 228 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:33.119 At its height, Cahokia was a sprawling metropolitan center of culture and commerce located 229 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:40.000 just outside of present day Saint Louis, Missouri. It was so big and 230 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:45.119 important. How big was it? Well, like you said, another city 231 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:52.680 of its magnitude pop pop wouldn't exist for almost six hundred years, and that 232 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:56.440 that was that was in seventeen eighty, Like you said, Philadelphia at the 233 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:03.240 times, like Filly Motown, Failly back again. But every every source, 234 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:06.559 this is something I don't know if you've had this trouble or not, but 235 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:10.160 you you threw out the number of people as forty thousand. Every source that 236 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:14.079 I read, I was careful to say, and maybe I don't I say 237 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:15.680 I say that, No, maybe I didn't, I said, as much 238 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:22.680 as that's that forty thousand is the the upper end of the spectrum you think, 239 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:27.799 so I spectrum. I guess I didn't realize how big your good spectrum 240 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.759 was, Flora. I'm surprised you couldn't see it coming from Amla. Why 241 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:37.079 don't you spread that big spectrum floor? Let me see it, Jesus, 242 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:44.799 that was too far. Don't ever say the word spread in America unless it's 243 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:51.359 from Muslim. Everything that I read had a different number, Literally everything I 244 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:55.759 read. I have four books, at least four books in my collection that 245 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.279 talked about Kahokia. Every one of them said said a different number. I 246 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:06.880 got anywhere between six thousand and one hundred thousand. Jesus, I saw the 247 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:11.839 six thousand is like a low, but I never got out of forty. 248 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:15.880 I think it's hard to know because it was comprised of so many small satellite 249 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:22.599 villages right in addition to the to the center which is now called Kahokia. 250 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:29.519 And so I think it's it may be a bit unfair to try and to 251 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:32.960 try and really put a number, because where where's the boundary? Where do 252 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:36.480 you stop counting? Yeah? What what? It stops being the city, 253 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:40.640 what starts being a suburb? And exactly at what point, you know, 254 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:44.880 when do you say, oh, this was the moment that we're doing our 255 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:51.720 our fictional census. So it was big people and for the time, bigger 256 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:56.200 than the whole town you grew up in. Burn about the name though, 257 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:02.480 Cahokia. That wasn't even the name of this place. Oh you know what 258 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.720 the name was? What was it? No? I was hoping you would 259 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:11.440 because no one knows. No one knows. They were not, at least 260 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:15.599 to our understanding, illiterate people there. They left no writings aside from um, 261 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:21.519 you know, symbols and things like that on pottery shards, but there 262 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:25.720 was no cohesive writing system that anyone has been able to determine. Crazy. 263 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:33.720 The name Cahokia was given several centuries after its decline based on the tribes that 264 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:40.039 occupied the region when the Mississippi was explored by Hernando de Soto. So the 265 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:44.880 tribes there, I think had the name Cahokia when he came, you know, 266 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:48.480 busting up the river and it's just like, well, this this place 267 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:56.000 is big and important, dying, what's what all these Cahokians. So, 268 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:03.160 archaeologists have dated the civilization to have exists did between six hundred and thirteen hundred 269 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:10.319 CE, with the height being somewhere around the range of twelve hundred. Yeah, 270 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:12.519 some of the research that I saw had at the decline kind of push 271 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:18.400 a little bit further back that it started to really jump the shark around thirteen 272 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:22.279 hundred, right, Yeah, I mean basically ten ten fifty to twelve fifty 273 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:26.599 you're in you're in the good depth zone for this place, high Cotton. 274 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.759 You're you're living the good urban life. And then after that it's just sort 275 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:36.839 of the roller coaster starts sad trombones. Yeah. Now, if if this 276 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:44.319 weren't cool enough for you, Cahokia adds more mystique with its main features large 277 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:48.880 earthen mounds, yes, up to one hundred and twenty in number of various 278 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:56.680 shapes, various sizes, and various uses. Plus at least one would hinge 279 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:03.839 on its western edge. Yep, would hinge. There. The largest mound 280 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.720 called Monk's Mound because there is some Trappist monks that lived there. Briefly, 281 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:11.400 they just just stuck there. Nineteenth century, they found a structure on top 282 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.240 that came out to be about a five thousand square foot What they they're not 283 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:19.119 one hundred percent sure. They think maybe it was like functionally the governor's mansion 284 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:23.440 may have been at the home for the leader. There's also in the center 285 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:30.440 of I mean not the center, but centrally located in a very prime real 286 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:36.799 estate position for Kahokia, a sports arena of sorts. They have a big 287 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:41.839 playing field, huge plaza. And this is one of the things that made 288 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:49.799 Kahokia very interesting. Is Chunky Chunky Chunky h u n k e y. 289 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:53.599 It was a sport. It was a game that was played, and it 290 00:22:53.720 --> 00:23:00.519 was wildly popular throughout a huge part of North America. It was not just 291 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:04.359 played here, although this is like where the NFL of Chunky clearly happened. 292 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:07.720 I mean, it was a very big part of day to day life gambling 293 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:15.400 operations. Um organized play, and the premise of it is um. A 294 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:22.160 guy rolls a disc um that is uh something of a target. He rolls 295 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:26.319 it and then the other players throw spears into the ground where they think it'll 296 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:33.880 stop. And this is I mean, this is a This is before they 297 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:40.759 had whoop and a stick, before they had like a ball ball on a 298 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:47.160 string with a cup um And so this was a huge, huge, pastime. 299 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:52.000 Yeah. People would would bet their entire life savings on this game. 300 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:56.039 I mean it's just like people gambling now. People would kill themselves after a 301 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:00.480 string of losses in Chunky, and they'd play this thing all damn all damn 302 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:06.359 day. It wasn't until the ten twenty that they installed nightlights. And that's 303 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:10.039 right, just huge fires. Yeah, a bunch of guys fighting. I 304 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:17.079 don't like the torches thruining the game. Um no they have. Don't advertise 305 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:21.960 your maze here, that's right. I can't see over the top of my 306 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:26.480 my, my mud hut because of your ads. I'm gonna put I'm gonna 307 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:30.319 put some seats on the roof of my mud ut and charge people bunches of 308 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.920 shales to get up there. And then then the owner of the of the 309 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:37.680 Chunky arena was like, well, I might just move this team to Yucatan. 310 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:42.000 You know, I can't get any more breaks from the city government on 311 00:24:42.079 --> 00:24:49.640 taxes. I the play of the player CapGain. You know, the Yucatan 312 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:55.799 Maze gobblers. It's like, what, we don't have maze here, how 313 00:24:55.839 --> 00:25:02.759 does it? It's just like the Utah Jazz, Los Angeles Lakers. Oh 314 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:07.960 God, we spun that web. Yeah, we did so. But Chunky 315 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:14.440 Chunky was also an important thing, Uh, sociologically organized sports. I mean, 316 00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.799 this was a huge thing, and it spread throughout all these other tribes. 317 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:22.480 It was one of those rare things that that everyone was into. Yeah, 318 00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:26.519 it didn't matter what tribe you were from. Everyone had an opinion on 319 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:32.799 Chunky, and Germany was always when. Yeah, but you know, after 320 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:45.920 the biting episodes and Chunky, you had that Paul Chunky Chunky, Paul Chunky 321 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:49.160 Chunky. You got there. You're gonna get out in the parking lot. 322 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:55.960 You're gonna play some Chunky. Paul can't can't aim Ah, I mean not 323 00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:56.680 mean two old, too old. I don't go for that. I don't 324 00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:00.880 go for that Chunky the way the kids do with kids love that Chunky. 325 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.720 Now we've we've switched rolls. I think we can say we've done that. 326 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:08.960 Uh, cross it off and move on. Um So, around twelve fifty, 327 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:17.359 the civilization started a mysterious decline. But why By the mid thirteen hundreds 328 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:21.319 it was completely deserted. Yeah, they's at this place and all who don't 329 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:27.200 dwell in it? Yeah, and you you hit it Hawai? Why why? 330 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:30.599 Why? Santa Claus, but he knows. Yeah, there's a no. 331 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.480 I mean, like like any good mystery where no one knows. There's 332 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:37.160 a whole bunch of competing theories yep, which we'll get to at the end. 333 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:44.160 Yep, Yep, save that that Snicker's ball. Save that's snuggaball right 334 00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:47.759 in the middle of that ball. Let's go through a little of the history 335 00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.720 of this. Yeah, not that we're not knee deep in at all or 336 00:26:52.200 --> 00:27:02.720 wow, but let's really I can't wait to play rabass with this mystery are 337 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:11.039 a little too Relatively recently, it's come to be known that a culture flourished 338 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:19.680 in pre Columbian America north of the hugely popular and wonderful civilizations in South America 339 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:23.880 and Meso America. Yep, you might have heard us mentioned the Mayans previously, 340 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:30.480 like five minutes ago, Aztecs, because I will say, I need 341 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.279 to stop the bus firs thing because everything that keeps saying North America. But 342 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:36.640 I'm in my mind, like a good American, I'm never including Mexico when 343 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:42.960 I say that. But Mexico is undeniably a part of North America's placam I 344 00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:45.880 know, right, uh so sorry about that, but you get what I 345 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.559 mean. Uh, yeah, that's not going to go to jail for it 346 00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:59.960 in America, not meso America. Yeah. This civilization is now known as 347 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:07.519 the Mississippian culture, named because of its development along the Mississippi River all away 348 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:14.480 from Wisconsin in the north to the Gulf of Mexico and Oklahoma to Georgia. 349 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:22.319 Um also famous and very notable for its extensive trading. Yes, um pee 350 00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.079 things that were mine. One of the things that they were really into is 351 00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:29.200 chirt, which is a type of rock that is very easily flaked. It's 352 00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:33.759 it's really it's really great for making tools. Yea. And they found chirt 353 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:45.799 chirt. Get that pall shirt chirt that Dave so ch is. This is 354 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.880 this um you can you can you can nap it, you can flake it 355 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:56.880 to make bladed, spin it, twist it. Uh. But they've found 356 00:28:56.119 --> 00:29:02.720 chert tools that they can even buy their design that were made at Cahokia. 357 00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.759 They've found it in northern Minnesota, they found it up the east coast. 358 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:11.599 But they found these things everywhere. And and conversely, they've found trade items 359 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:18.680 from virtually all of North America, including Mexico. Oh in Cahokia. Wow, 360 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:25.960 it's pretty amazing. Now you might be wondering with me saying it developed 361 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.000 along the Mississippi. How did it got over to Georgia. Well, yeah, 362 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:33.440 it's spread over there. I mean that's a that's a thing like using 363 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:40.519 various rivers and the whole you know, spread gobbling up um tribes. As 364 00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:45.119 as the culture moved along, it got that far basically, yeah, and 365 00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:49.319 it's and it was. It's obviously there was a confluence there. But the 366 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:53.599 Cahokia is also it's not just on the Mississippi. It's also on the Missouri 367 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.680 and the Illinois River, right, so there's a lot of water. There's 368 00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.680 a lot of coming into that area. Prefix spot could have built a three 369 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:10.079 rivers chunky stadium. Oh man, yep. The US once again, Pennsylvania 370 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:17.200 beats Kahokia for the Mississippian culture. The period was divided into three stages. 371 00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:22.920 You had the Early Mississippi period, the Middle and the Late Mississippi period. 372 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:30.519 All that ran from roughly one thousand CE to fifteen forty. The middle one 373 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.839 is the high point. That's the one that Hookey is flourishing. Everybody's happy. 374 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:45.000 You're getting chert chirt out the wazoo. I'm a Churt baron um this. 375 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.599 I mean, I love that it was like such an important thing to 376 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:53.200 them and they gave like the name just says I don't matter, Chirt forget 377 00:30:53.279 --> 00:31:00.279 me. Um. Now. Archaeologists have found evidence of smaller settlements in this 378 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:04.519 area going back as far as fifteen hundred BC. Yeah, but it but 379 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:11.039 just for the purposesn't everybody? Doesn't everybody? It cocy didn't become a big 380 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:17.799 deal until around six hundred Yeah. Well and truthfully not until around ten fifty 381 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.920 because there was some weird population explosion around then. People aren't sure why why 382 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:30.480 that was either, right, There's tons of theories about cultivation, food availability, 383 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:36.000 and that all comes back to the whole the Mississippi culture. This region 384 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:44.079 as it grew, it coalesced because of a few different factors that were um 385 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.799 kind of flying in the face of tradition as it were. It's marked as 386 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:53.960 as the time when agriculture took hold, Maze as a crop became big, 387 00:31:55.039 --> 00:32:06.920 and u graft crafting gained prominence. A complex chiefdom system developed in addition to 388 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:14.079 permanent settlements and mound building that was that was a thing. But what this 389 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:20.200 is coming from is hunters and gatherers. You've got It's like we've seen maybe 390 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:25.359 at go Beckley Teppe. You know, people stop moving and start stopping. 391 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:32.160 Jesus. Yeah, they they they like, if there's plenty of woodlands, 392 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:38.000 there's plenty of everything there. People even nomadic tribes will move through that area 393 00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:44.400 much slower or otherwise would until finally that's slowing just to like, eh, 394 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.759 I'll try it. Yeah, And then they figured out we can, we 395 00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:50.599 can grow. The stuff comes back every year. It's enough to feed us. 396 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.799 That's all you need, man. And they had, uh, I 397 00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:59.240 mean in the ability, the abilities that they gain once they stop. I 398 00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:07.079 mean the nieces let time travelers. M one thing that they found it when 399 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.920 it was kind of an interesting story. It was discovered in the nineties and 400 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:15.279 it was from an excavation. It was um a copper forge. It was 401 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:21.319 for artisans working copper. Copper was a big thing. But what they was 402 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.039 more interesting is that actually they weren't the first people to discover it. It 403 00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:28.480 had been discovered by an archaeologist in the fifties who then lost it couldn't find 404 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:32.079 it again, which like, how the how does that happen? But but 405 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:37.440 they found this brilliantly intact copper forge with lots of evidence of how they worked 406 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:42.359 it. And they m They used a process called a kneeling, which is 407 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:46.240 similar to how when you imagine a blacksmith with iron where it's heated, hammered 408 00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:50.920 and it cools. You reheat it, you hammered at cools. And they 409 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.039 use this to make all kinds of things, um, personal decorative items, 410 00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:02.119 um weapons in some cases, uh, tools, I mean, it's it's 411 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:09.079 just really fascinating. Yeah. Back when and again dip in our toe a 412 00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:16.199 little bit, when conventional history books are telling you that there are savages roaming 413 00:34:16.199 --> 00:34:22.119 the planes. These people have no true settlements, no way of life, 414 00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.800 no no right, you know. And this is what we talked about. 415 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:30.559 This is one of my favorite things. Is this this this this crappy notion 416 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:37.199 that that everyone around the world was just stupid until Europe showed up. Yeah, 417 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.840 and it's it's frustrating and it's wrong, and it's it's irritating. Yeah, 418 00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:45.960 it's it's completely self centered and dumb, is what it is. We'll 419 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:50.159 tell you a little bit here a little more about specifics. Uh. The 420 00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:55.000 city was comprised of this central massive mound as we've said called Monks Mound. 421 00:34:55.800 --> 00:35:02.840 Monks Mound was ten stories tall thirty meters. It covered about fourteen acres at 422 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:09.320 its base. It had terraced platforms and tapered sides. Um. It's it's 423 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:14.280 almost like you you take a pyramid and you slice off a little bit of 424 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.360 it. Yeah, built it smaller, Yeah, keeping going, But the 425 00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:24.599 top of it was flat and apparently I guess it's it's actually bigger in size, 426 00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:31.280 at least base wise than the Great Pyramid. Who you know, U 427 00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:38.079 say, sorry, Mohammad Morsey go maze gobblers, Yo, maze gobblers. 428 00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:44.000 Um. And these mounds they were of different sizes and they all had differing 429 00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:45.920 usages. Um. Like I said, I mentioned that the you know, 430 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.880 there was the structure on top of Monk's Mound. There was the the mound 431 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:55.039 that had the the artisan the copper working areas. There were some mounds that 432 00:35:55.079 --> 00:36:00.679 were used for burial um. And so there was which implies a fair amount 433 00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:08.679 of civil engineering. Oh yeah, oh yeah, kool aid man, not 434 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:15.480 this time. Yeah, it's it's I didn't write now in the numbers on 435 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:22.519 this. Uh so look them up, but educate yourselves. It was monumental 436 00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:30.079 because it was a monument God, because they had no apparently had no beasts 437 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:35.639 of hurden to to lug all this stuff along, so they had to do 438 00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:40.679 it by baskets, by hand, and and and all of this earth, 439 00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:47.039 all this earth moved into these these structures. I mean, I mean, 440 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:52.440 you know, there were some some rumors that that uh four Englishmen had made 441 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.760 it to Kahokiah and they were going to be made into sleeves. But they 442 00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:59.719 you're doing a pun like they were like I'll never be your beast of burden, 443 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:09.280 never ever, okay, never be be uh, but by you stopped 444 00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:15.159 the flow for just just a shy pon, Yes, burned it proudly. 445 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:22.159 This this took well, it took a long damn time. Some some places 446 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:25.480 one hundred, one hundred years or more. Um. This is keep in 447 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:31.679 mind these huge, huge, uh mounds, it's by the basketfull of dirt. 448 00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:37.960 Yeah, I mean, it's just decades of intense labor these people, 449 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:43.119 you know, hauling and and I even saw where the places where they would 450 00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:47.800 get their dirt are now like still lakes, like their man made lakes. 451 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.519 Yeah. So so people we were dumping these dirts, making these mounds, 452 00:37:54.599 --> 00:38:01.599 dumping dirts, goblin, maize, and then and Monks Mound is thought to 453 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:07.079 be the residence of the chief or the king, who may have lived in 454 00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.719 a home at the top of this heart. He was called the Pope. 455 00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:21.840 Oh yeah, the the the Pope. Okay, that's enough of that. 456 00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:29.639 It it also could have served as a temple center for important ceremonies. Um. 457 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:36.840 It's the largest man made mound north of of Old Mexico. Yeah, 458 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:42.840 North America, starting at the southern border of the United States. Now there 459 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:45.320 was one more mound there. What was that? Was that just for storing 460 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:50.719 like milk and eggs. Some of them did some of them did get stuff 461 00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.840 stored underground. Um. Below, like we said, below Monks Mound, 462 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:58.559 there was this huge plaza that was about fifty acres. That's all it's. 463 00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:01.039 It's it's a lot of a lot of space. It was called the copper 464 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:07.639 Dome. Brought brought to you by mound thirty two copper works. Keep them 465 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:13.360 hammers, keep them hammers, ringing boys. Shells are us, that's right, 466 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.840 and to it also brought you by small conical shells, the foundation of 467 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:22.440 our economy. Surrounding surrounding this plaza, there were huts. There were some 468 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:27.639 more mounds. All of it was ringed by this wooden wall. Yeah, 469 00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:34.800 which implies military action or threats from outside. That does it does? It 470 00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:43.480 also implies a separation between the halves and the want to halves. You might 471 00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.559 know them as I have knots. You may have seen them in such places 472 00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:57.880 as the mirror. That's where I see them. This is what free entertainment 473 00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:05.719 sounds like. Beyond the wall. Farms and residences sprawled out from there. 474 00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.440 And that's that's where we don't know the boundary really. Yeah, and not 475 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:13.599 to mention how much I was wondering about this, how much the city itself 476 00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:19.880 had to sprawl out simply to acquire would oh would and to feed it. 477 00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.559 Yeah, and apparently they partied. Well duh, Why I live in a 478 00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:28.559 city if you can't party? Am all right? This is why I left 479 00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:34.280 Douzeldolf and vancel ballin, because it has to party too much. Doozelo the 480 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:38.119 devivan Induzludo goes to bed like an old man in slump feet at eight o'clock. 481 00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:43.719 Oh, but not for me, Induzeldolf. The music is like m 482 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:58.679 whom in Berlin's music is like wampam Susan Boyle, Susan Boiled. It's the 483 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.480 chart top of the scene. Yeah, and my favorite song is this was 484 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:05.280 just an e cool song called what If I Kicked You Into ding Ding? 485 00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:10.239 It goes like this, what If I kicked ding Ding? What If I 486 00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:19.159 kicked choo insot ding ding ding Ding? Whatt if I? What if I 487 00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:28.039 if I ding ding? What If I kicked you into ding ding? Oh? 488 00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:42.000 That's your music video. That is a hit song I heard. That's 489 00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:50.079 the halftime show with the Chunky game. All right, Oh um, let's 490 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.440 talk about this would hinge real quick. Yeah, I've got a hinge. 491 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:59.880 I mean it's it's a more temporary hinge. It's more explicable. I get 492 00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.679 how they hanged this one together. Yeah, this was just a little west 493 00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:07.239 of Monk's Mound. Was made of forty eight posts in a four hundred ten 494 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:13.039 foot diameter circle, and it was maybe the third incarnation of this hinge. 495 00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.639 Yeah, they found the post holes, Yeah, the post holes. The 496 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:20.360 first time they did it, it had twenty four posts. The next time 497 00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:22.760 it had thirty six. Next time I had forty eight. They added twelve 498 00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:27.960 posts each time more posts. Not much more is known about that, but 499 00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:35.400 they believed that it lined up with the equinoxes and solstices throughout the year because 500 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:40.360 that's what Yeah, that's what they do. Yeah. Important for an agricultural 501 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:45.079 based society, though, I guess I gotta tell you it. It never 502 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:52.079 ceases to amaze me, like how astronomy crops up over and over and again 503 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.960 in societies, in ancient society. Yeah. Yeah, And I'm so glad 504 00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:58.599 the world isn't full of Dave Steccos. I mean, for a number of 505 00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:02.559 reasons. One would just be too handsome. Two if the world was full 506 00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:06.360 of means there would be no astronomy. I'd be like, no, that's 507 00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.400 just nun moving. Everything is the same, you guys. Notice it's getting 508 00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:15.679 colder. That's weird. I'm sure it'll be summer again tomorrow. Still, 509 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:22.800 I don't know, like why is everything tied to to equinoxes and solstices? 510 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:28.639 And yeah, and it's just i mean between an equinox and of solstice. 511 00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:31.400 Yeah, there's a huge difference and when the sun rises and sets, but 512 00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:38.599 it's so minuscule day by day, day by day, Like it's just just 513 00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:44.360 really amazing. And people, I mean, we're getting up with sun going 514 00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:49.159 down getting you know, getting getting down with it too. But I don't 515 00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:53.119 know. It's one of those It's one of those things where we think we 516 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:58.800 know, but we probably don't, Right, we probably are real big ass 517 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:08.719 hats the elective we uh, the art there resembles Mesoamerican art, oh uh, 518 00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:15.679 specifically art funds the South. I was the thought that Mayan's did you 519 00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:22.960 know, kayak up the old canoe, come on, I know, up 520 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:29.519 the Mississada up big muddy yeah and uh and got there and and influenced culture. 521 00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:32.840 I find this a little hard to believe that because most of their art 522 00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:40.480 and and the they did a lot of little etchings on on shells and copper 523 00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:47.719 pieces, things like that. Very very Mayan looking. Now, is that 524 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:54.000 because you know some yahoo's from the Yucatan uh scooted up the Mississippi and then 525 00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:59.920 influenced this whole flipping region? Yeah? Maybe what if they went up there 526 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.840 and this is just a very successful um outpost. If they were yeah, 527 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:10.960 well dipping the toe again there, I mean, good point. We'll we'll 528 00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:15.920 circle back for that one. But copper and shells, like we said, 529 00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.400 value valuable shells, marine shells, these you know, yeah, a little 530 00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:24.360 what they're called, but they're like the thin conical shells really popular in the 531 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:30.400 Pacific Northwest. Oh yeah, I guess it's probably a golf thing. Yeah. 532 00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:32.559 Um, you might find I don't know, there may be more around 533 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:36.800 the old Mississippi. So well, there's a lot of water there. Uh 534 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:42.119 chirt. Of course, you can't talk about cohoki without talking about good old 535 00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:50.320 shirt. There was There was also a definite class system going on. You 536 00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:53.519 got the like we said, the the aristocrats, the the halves, some 537 00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:59.599 some of the priest uh farmers, and then you got the the stinky old 538 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.639 farmers and the people that are actually keeping everyone fit, the auto workers, 539 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:10.519 the welders, the church herders, church herders. There was also evidence of 540 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:17.719 sacrifice. Oh man, grizzly sacrifice. Whome on sacrifice. That's right, 541 00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:28.480 there's the one of these mounds chock full of corpses ununds, seventy two hundreds 542 00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:35.480 and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. Don't don't add all those hundreds together. 543 00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:39.320 I was just saying hundreds more than once. That was not an additive sentence. 544 00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:45.079 One of the one of the most famous mounds that were that has been 545 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:51.280 excavated found a man in his forties, still alive, just just running around 546 00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:58.559 in that mound, thinking the war still on against the Choctaw. The remains 547 00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.760 of this guy on a bed of twenty thousand shells, which were in the 548 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:10.280 shape of a falcon. Birdman Birdman, Harvey Birdman. Also found over two 549 00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:16.920 hundred and fifty skeletons, mostly sacrifices, some missing hands, their heads. 550 00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:22.920 Yeah, for four males in particular, young boys, well boys or young 551 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:30.199 men, missing hands and skulls. A mask grave. You say heads because 552 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:34.320 when you say skulls, it's like there's just like an empty skin bag on 553 00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:37.800 top of their neck. They left the skin, they just took the skull. 554 00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:44.480 What a mystery, Yeah, that would be a mystery. A mask 555 00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:50.880 grave of fifty girls also perhaps the most disturbing. That's from when the first 556 00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:55.119 boy band they all got married ceremonially and all the girls killed themselves. There 557 00:47:55.199 --> 00:48:00.800 was a mass grave of forty men and women who may not have been dead, 558 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:07.880 right, not all of them pretty spectacularly gross, yep. And they 559 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.480 were just like lined in there. They put a layer of matting, then 560 00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:14.480 another layer of them. And I've got a theory about that. Actually that 561 00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:20.480 will come back to Okay. Um, Yeah, apparently they're the bodies the 562 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:24.159 bones are. Some of them are found in positions that make it look like 563 00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:28.159 they were trying to get out. Yeah, they were digging their way out 564 00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:32.960 when they succumbed to the wall of dirt on top of them and other other 565 00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:38.559 bodies. Oh god, Yeah, gobbled that maze. Gobble that maze. 566 00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:45.760 Motherfucker. Oh you lacking that maze. It was first protected Kahokia was in 567 00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:50.360 nineteen twenty three as a state park. Interstate came through, tried to mess 568 00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:54.360 with it nineteen. In the nineteen fifties, um couldn't. Actually just kind 569 00:48:54.360 --> 00:49:01.519 of invigorated U knowledge about it, and it became a National Historic Landmark in 570 00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:08.320 nineteen sixty four and in nineteen eighty two became a UNESCO World Heritage Site. 571 00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:15.679 Thank you Unesco once again. Yep, today continues to be excavated. Yeah, 572 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:16.880 it's a good spots, a huge place. It's a huge place, 573 00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:22.280 huge place. Although roads are you know. I think there's a road running 574 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.519 right in front of Monk's Mound. Yeah. I actually rode by it and 575 00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:29.400 I didn't realize it was Monk's Mound. And now that I've read about this, 576 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:30.960 I was like, Oh my god, is that's what that was? 577 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:35.440 Yeah, I honestly thought, because sometimes you see those landfills that have that 578 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:38.519 steep side, I thought that's what it was. Because it is directly across 579 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.679 the river from Saint Louis. And now I'm like, holy crap, that 580 00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.679 was Monk's Mound. Yeah, isn't It isn't. And that's how this place 581 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:52.039 has remained, I think, such a place that no one here's about, 582 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:57.400 and no one really stumbled upon because they thought it was just a hill here's 583 00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.119 here's a hill man. And in this it's weird because it's in this kind 584 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:05.199 of flat area of the of the you know, near the Mississippi. But 585 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.360 it's, um, it's it's just there, no big deal. Oh wait, 586 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:15.960 there's skeletons inside there. Makes you makes you think, um, let's 587 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:22.199 talk a little bit about who might have been these people if not Native Americans. 588 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.920 That's a big winch of contention. And it's tough even there because the 589 00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:31.760 idea that this area was so expansive that um, how many tribes made up 590 00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:37.639 the nation of Khokia? Right right? For those of us who don't want 591 00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:44.920 to just accept the Native American um propaganda machine, No, thank you. 592 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:52.559 How about Vikings that has been thrown out there, interesting proposition. Vikings tries 593 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:57.559 to weasel its way in a lot of stuff. Yeah, early America, 594 00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:02.360 besides Old Leaf. I feel like the Vikings got an inch and they something 595 00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:07.760 like like because there is so much verified truth that like, oh no, 596 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:12.639 they really were coming over here and trying to get a toe hold in that. 597 00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.639 Then people run with it. They take a mile, you know, 598 00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:20.559 like because there was this little nugget of of really fascinating and interesting truth about 599 00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:23.079 it that then it kind of goes well, then it just goes too far. 600 00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:28.960 Somebody's blow the little that's right. Um, we haven't shot Alex Jones 601 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:35.480 for a while. I'm going to come back around to that. Things Blurry 602 00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:44.480 photos takes out. Uh there there's something I've heard and I can't I don't 603 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:45.599 know the details of it. So this is going to sound real dumb and 604 00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:52.599 fuzzy, but like I feel like blurry there was a some people found, 605 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:58.960 uh some some Viking swords or or some type of tools weapons, things like 606 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:06.239 that around Minnesota. Uh, there's that thing with these the runestone, the 607 00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:10.760 Kensington runestone was there. Yeah, and there's and there's there's isolated conditions where 608 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:15.320 I'm sorry, where someone was not conditions, but situations where they found a 609 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:20.199 burial. And there's like a coin, like a Viking coin, you know, 610 00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.199 the little little tiny things that hint at trade but don't necessarily mean the 611 00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:28.400 Vikings themselves made it that far. Yeah, there was this. This also 612 00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:31.199 has to do with like the copper being used that that people were like, 613 00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:34.880 well, no, bard are gonna mark or should have known how to use 614 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.800 copper at that point, but the Vockings. Yeah, I hate that argument. 615 00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:45.679 I'm not gonna I'm done with this, dude. I am done. 616 00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:54.519 Just so Phoenicians has been thrown out there. Whoa, whoa, oh la 617 00:52:54.719 --> 00:53:00.159 la, Yeah, that's that's a that's a long boat ride. Yeah, 618 00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:07.760 straight from the Mediterranean to Saint Louis Jesus. I mean they were good with 619 00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.920 boats. Yeah, but come on, yeah, they weren't. Come on, 620 00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:17.199 I mean, come on, Phoenicians. That that comes back to your 621 00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:22.599 point about the coin. I think there was a fucking coin somebody had somewhere 622 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:28.280 and button butt coins and I mean, and then, like I already said 623 00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:35.159 earlier, Mesoamerican uh cultures, Yes, yes that's possible, and we know 624 00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:39.199 there was trade. Yeah, that's a fact, Yeah, straight straight up. 625 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:44.599 Yeah, yeah, it could be could be an offshoot of Mayan's coming 626 00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:49.480 up there. Um, that's a it's not that bad. I don't think 627 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:53.360 of a journey from the Yucatan up to that point. No guys looking for 628 00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:59.840 the Last City of Gold did it on accident. Uh. So that's that's 629 00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:04.159 a pretty good one actually for Yeah, that that holds water for me, 630 00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:08.320 I mean, and it's interesting that there's the difference, the thing that actually 631 00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:10.559 undermines it. On one hand, you're like, oh, well this this 632 00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:16.000 culture, they're pyramid builders or mound builders. There is a very similar artistic 633 00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:22.920 style. And then there's also human sacrifice, but the the nature of the 634 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:27.199 sacrifice couldn't be more different. That's that's mine and I think that that's an 635 00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:31.400 important difference, you know that something like that to my mind, I don't 636 00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:37.320 know. I'm not a sociologist, but the stuff I was getting from the 637 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:44.039 sacrifice that I read about the sacrifice, it was that people were sacrificed with 638 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:50.519 their masters. Basically, it's like your attendees and your harem and stuff was 639 00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.639 was killed so that they could attend you in the afterlife. Yeah, but 640 00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:59.480 most importantly very so that's almost an Egyptian it really is. Yeah, funition, 641 00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:04.920 um and but but what's important is that it is a very different from 642 00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.119 the reasons that the Mayans did. Yeah, and the stuff. There's no 643 00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:14.000 hearts cut out things like that that were regularly done. Um. There is 644 00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:19.320 a show out there that talks about Kahokia. It's one of those one of 645 00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:23.559 them shows. Oh yeah, one of them shows like four eight hundred pound 646 00:55:23.599 --> 00:55:29.960 bubbas and I go pro cam and they're just actually just shooting shooting foundation stones. 647 00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:37.960 Just a highly stylized historical account. But there are quotes around historical account 648 00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:47.239 No, um, pass it, I said, pass okay, keep going. 649 00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:52.039 No, they talked about sacrificing a like a virgin every year for the 650 00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:59.719 for the crops or something like that, you know whatever. I don't I 651 00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:04.119 I didn't find anything in any of my research that alluded to that at all. 652 00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:07.440 So yeah, and if it did, it may have been like the 653 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:17.039 Natchez something down in Mississippa proper. Anyways, how about a lost tribe of 654 00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:25.800 Israel a really lost Yeah, I don't know. That's getting into Mormon territory. 655 00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:34.159 Well, you know what, yes, yes it is. Because there's 656 00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:39.400 even a legend of a bearded robed man who visited these people, told them 657 00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:45.639 to love each other and told them to be harmonious, and then disappeared and 658 00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:52.199 then the society fell into chaos. Matt mort you know who that sounds like 659 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.719 the world's most interesting man, the Josakis guy. That's right, he was 660 00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:04.519 a mazed gobbler. Yeah. No, it sounds like very coocha to me. 661 00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:07.199 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good call. We should 662 00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:12.000 do an episode on that. Yeah, that's that's that's come up. I 663 00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:15.760 think even we mentioned in that the episode that we covered on him was that 664 00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.400 the taku maybe, uh, when we when we talked about him, I 665 00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.760 think we may have mentioned that he, you know, made his way up 666 00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:25.840 up the coast there or whatever, and then on up into who knows where 667 00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:31.239 children are the gods? Right? Um? Oh oh Von Dannikin Yeah, 668 00:57:31.559 --> 00:57:36.920 um maybe, or it could be a I was gonna say, it's right 669 00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:42.639 there and yourself fingerprints of the guy Graham Handcock. Okay, anyway, you 670 00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.880 know what we should try to start try to talk to some of these guys. 671 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.480 Nay, they don't want to talk to the likes of us. I 672 00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.199 have a fear. I think this is what's keeping me from asking them, 673 00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:55.360 is that they're gonna be like, you guys are jackets. We take this 674 00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:59.840 very seriously, and you you guys are assholes. Well that's I mean. 675 00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:04.119 I wouldn't argue any of those points. Um, we'll be very nice, 676 00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:12.599 but we'd still kidnap them. Atlantis refugees ooh, I saw that documentary that 677 00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.559 Disney made about them, and I just feel like they'd be more evidence of 678 00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:19.599 their laser weapons. For time's sake, I'm not gonna play Devil's advocate in 679 00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:23.719 this case. Yeah. Um, when we do our Atlantis episode, Yeah, 680 00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:28.000 well we'll revisit that. Yeah, we'll come back in and cross this 681 00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:34.400 tea. Well, okay, so if you don't like the Native American route, 682 00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:37.920 that's who you got to play with. There's a list, And how 683 00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:42.599 about what happened to this place? I've read and I believe this. Um, 684 00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:51.119 these are these are hashtags city problems. First of all, like you 685 00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:55.679 said earlier, scarcity of food. It's very hard to feed a standing static 686 00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:01.280 population. It's hard to get fire. Would for that population thousands of trees 687 00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:08.039 a day for hundreds of years, Very hard to do and most importantly sanitation. 688 00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:13.639 What do you do with all the waste? You get sick off of 689 00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:16.199 it? Yep. And so there's a in the research I did, there 690 00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:22.800 was a running belief that that they didn't solve these problems now that people did 691 00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:27.440 starve to death, that people did die of disease owing to the lack of 692 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:31.400 sanitation, the lack of cleanliness and waste in the city. However, they 693 00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:36.559 were continually importing people to support the city, like you know, just like 694 00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:43.679 New York City. Bright torches, big mounds. We got them, big 695 00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.440 torches, big mounds, big fun. That's right, gone down to hookya 696 00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:52.119 two more days. Opening day, the Maze Gobblers defending there. We're the 697 00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:59.280 only city in this entire country. Title the World as we know It, 698 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:05.679 The World as we know it? Cup of Chunky, what's good? Ready, 699 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:10.400 dude, Chunky. I'll tell you what's dan. Watching these grays athletes, 700 01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:14.440 it's it's always inspiring. Here we go, Uh, first up, 701 01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:19.559 plots of black. He's gonna he's rolling, he's rolling the target and the 702 01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.280 key. These guys are really gonna try to say when is it gonna stop 703 01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:25.800 rolling? That's the question. And can I hit that spot with a spear. 704 01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:37.679 But there's this bear tossing opening day can do that to you. That's 705 01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:44.079 right, wildly doesn't doesn't need that guy. But they've got a great souvenir 706 01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:52.320 of an opening day for amaze gobblers. Oh man, all right, Yeah, 707 01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:57.480 you brought up some great points there with with the environmental aspect of it. 708 01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:02.760 Uh, just just focusing on at the deforestation which leads to erosion. 709 01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:08.440 The soil blows away, washes away, you don't got yeah, nothing to 710 01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:14.920 hold it in places crop failure. Uh, what about climate change? There's 711 01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:19.800 it's a fake, there's hippie, there's the theory. I didn't vote for 712 01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:29.360 him. This sception. The thought that there was a there's a small ice 713 01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:34.079 age, small ice age that came through at the time, just just I 714 01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.559 don't know a little at it. Apparently it was enough to stop maze from 715 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:42.880 growing, you know. And I read Jared Diamond's book Collapse, Uh, 716 01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:45.840 and it's it's about that, um. And it's uh, it's about why 717 01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:51.280 some civilizations thrive, why others fall apart, you know what happens. Uh. 718 01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:55.199 And and it's amazing how little it takes. I mean, just a 719 01:01:55.320 --> 01:02:04.159 seasonal variation where you get one hundred years of wetter weather that really boosts crops 720 01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:07.639 and people. It can suddenly support people they stopped moving, and so for 721 01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:10.800 one hundred years they build on this weather phenomenon, just like what I was 722 01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:15.760 talking about myself, like I wouldn't notice if it was changing. And then 723 01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:20.840 then when that cycle renormalizes and that it's not that wet for the next one 724 01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:25.679 hundred years, it's like one of those simulator games or just you move that 725 01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:30.559 slider bar just too much and boom, no one can eat anymore. It 726 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:36.679 doesn't work anymore. And and societies are very susceptible to that. Oh yeah, 727 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:43.159 it's it's a very tenuous pyramid schemes. And then with the waste, 728 01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:46.239 of course, poisoning the water supply is easy. At that point, yep, 729 01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:51.599 you get sick. There was even the thought that maybe garbage pits were 730 01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:59.559 a problem because someone recently dug out they found a garbage pit and it was 731 01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:07.320 so full of sheet that it's still stank and was rotting when they dug away. 732 01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:10.719 Yeah, that's kind of awesome, it is. But and and also 733 01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:16.079 that with that they were able to see a lot of stuff and they can 734 01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:21.039 tell well, here's here's some stuff that they ate here. This is obviously, 735 01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:22.360 you know, all coming from one thing. Maybe it's a feast or 736 01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:28.760 something, or it's like you can tell through you know, one man's trash, 737 01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:35.119 how that man lives or died and died. Sure there isn't the garbage. 738 01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:38.239 Yeah, which actually thank you for bringing them back up. Okay, 739 01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:45.360 when you've got a population that dense and you have a problem sanitation, disease 740 01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:50.960 can rip through. And I I mean, just as a personal theory, 741 01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:57.679 perhaps some of those those mass graves aren't religious in nature. Maybe those maybe 742 01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:00.559 there was a quarantine. There was there was a plague, and if a 743 01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:04.159 person is just really sick, they're like, well you're already done zo and 744 01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:08.119 then the pit you go. I like that. I like that. I 745 01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:11.039 was thinking, that's what I thought when I was looking at that, because 746 01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:15.760 there's um it, because not everyone was like that. It was just an 747 01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:24.079 occasional person. And religious sacrifices are very by their nature, very ritualized things. 748 01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:27.519 There's not a lot of well you know, you know, so I 749 01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:30.440 missed, you know, And so that makes me think that it was done 750 01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:36.199 in a hurry. To me, that says quarantine, plague, just trying 751 01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:40.719 to just trying to cope with a large body count from an outbreak. That's 752 01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:45.639 that's really good. I like that, um and the small the small number 753 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:51.519 compared to the whole of the civilization there with there being around forty or so 754 01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:57.320 in that one pit, but forty or so people some alive, somebody that 755 01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:01.880 like, that makes sense for a small outbreak that they want to keep under 756 01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:09.440 control, you know. But that also one one more thing could be social 757 01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:14.760 unrest. M yep, class warfare. Since you have such a delineation of 758 01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:19.880 rich and poor. Um, and the rich guy has here in me Obama, 759 01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:24.360 the house getting what I'm putting down. You're smelling what I'm selling, 760 01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:29.719 buddy, you're scooping what I'm pooping. Uh. The richest guy in town 761 01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:33.119 has the house on top of that hill where everybody can see him. Yeah, 762 01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:38.039 just sitting there on the other side is a walled economic barrier, right. 763 01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.559 Yeah, that's that's one of the reasons. I think maybe the wall 764 01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:47.800 was there because there aren't that many signs of militaristic skirmishes yea or or or 765 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:53.320 you know a society that had a lot of military So the thought is that 766 01:05:53.400 --> 01:06:01.679 the wall was more for keeping out the uncleaning, and um, I just 767 01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:09.320 had the thought that maybe the pit could be revolutionaries. Yeah, so you 768 01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:14.800 know, people that we're misbehaving, weren't weren't listening to the man had to 769 01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:18.840 put them down, you go. So anyways, ultimately we don't know yet. 770 01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:23.840 Yeah yet being the operitive word though, because it is protected, they're 771 01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:26.880 still working on It's a big place. Yeah, and there's just a lot 772 01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:30.559 of interesting things to find. Yeah, um, very very few people working 773 01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:34.920 on it, but but very good and smart people that are that are in 774 01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:40.000 on it and trying to find out. Um, if only they could get 775 01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:45.239 more money, right, exactly more fun and for skeleton digging less fun and 776 01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:48.880 for missile launching. I wouldn't live in the military holds of bake sale and 777 01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:54.159 archaeologists get all the boody. I went, I went drones that find Danna, 778 01:06:56.719 --> 01:07:00.760 I went mound buster missiles. I want to make impre vised explosive discoveries, 779 01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:10.199 so that there you go. That's that's what we got with Kahokia. 780 01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:15.519 Cahokia, you know, earthen nutshell, probably with the skeleton inside. Yea, 781 01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:20.840 yeah, and the only oh you know what what quick? Sorry, 782 01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:26.239 I was just about to sully sag. I almost forgot. That made me 783 01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:29.719 pinch off a seg. Guys, you just hold burns, it burns. 784 01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.599 Hurry, hurry, Turtslin. The mound, monks mound, the mound in 785 01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:38.039 the Monks in the middle, the monks mound Mouth, Monks Mound in the 786 01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:44.760 middle. Mouse. It likes the little Betty sidewalk. It looks like what 787 01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:49.320 from the work they've done on it looks like it has been built up over 788 01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:53.599 over many years. And by that I mean it started out, you know, 789 01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:56.719 one size, then they added a layer to it, and then they 790 01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:01.000 added And the thought about that is that, um, they may bury the 791 01:08:02.039 --> 01:08:09.679 living quarters or temple where the chief lives, and then when he dies, 792 01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:16.680 they bury it and and everything is covered over and they built upon so uh 793 01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:21.199 so this thing's gotten built up this high because that's been you know, the 794 01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:26.880 place to live and die. I do think it'd be over, you know, 795 01:08:28.039 --> 01:08:30.079 six hundred years, seven hundred years, you'd think it'd be taller. 796 01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:35.159 I assume the life expectancy was still like in the forties. Um, yeah, 797 01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:38.960 yeah, I mean I don't I man, I don't know true that 798 01:08:39.119 --> 01:08:42.560 it's it's true, but I mean, what doesn't help that is is this 799 01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:45.560 mound seventy two because they think that the dude that was buried on the falcon 800 01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:50.439 shells was somebody of importance and maybe a chief or something. Oh well, 801 01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:55.760 yeah, I mean they gave him. He's the birdman. Birdman anyway, 802 01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:58.359 That's that's what I wanted to throw out there. They build on top of 803 01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:03.159 mounds, even even Mounds seventy two was smaller mounds or smaller burial things that 804 01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:09.079 they then covered all over and made one big mound out of. So I 805 01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:13.520 would like a new facade of dirt on that mound, and I want it 806 01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:17.159 done in two hundred years. So there there, there's your nutshell. Um, 807 01:09:17.199 --> 01:09:20.479 Well, then then I guess if that's that, then now's puns. 808 01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:25.319 How's that? That's what happens when you pinch off a seg. I would 809 01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:28.439 have expected it to be a little more explosive, but no, no, 810 01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:32.840 it just hurts you. I mean, these these are coming straight up the 811 01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:39.039 river here. Trade you trade you a fine quality chirt pun? Nice? 812 01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:41.840 Oh yeah, we definitely are gonna have some chirt punds. Who am I 813 01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:45.960 going first? Are you you go go? I have You're gonna like this? 814 01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:54.439 It's very nice it's a type of pre Columbian drinking cup for for your 815 01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:59.840 kids. UM is mostly found in that area, in the Cohokia area, 816 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:08.439 and around about that time of the civilization, they're Mississippi cups. Uh adorable. 817 01:10:09.880 --> 01:10:14.520 Um. You know, there's a Sierra Software. It's back in business 818 01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:18.199 and better than ever. They're making a new video game. UM. And 819 01:10:18.239 --> 01:10:26.960 it's it's about power, influence, UM, trading, mercantileism um. You 820 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:30.199 know, and it's it's about you know, it's from their Tycoon series. 821 01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:32.439 Okay, but they've also enjoyed, you know, a lot of success with 822 01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:38.399 the ancient Empires, and it's so they're really excited to release Churt Tycoon. 823 01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:43.920 You got your you got your chiselers, your flinters, your nappers, your 824 01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:53.960 long haul church truckers, build your church empire now with the most complete map. 825 01:10:54.039 --> 01:11:00.840 But it's North America minus Mexico. That's right, Oh pure What does 826 01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:08.239 may and say? The price of Churt's going up? Chert Tycoon shirt Tycoon? 827 01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:12.399 All right, um now from Windows ninety five. All right, I 828 01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:15.439 got one more here. This is a pudding shop, oh Jesus, where 829 01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:24.680 you get mounds of gross pudding. It's tapioca Hokia. Jesus, I like 830 01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:30.399 tapioca pudding. Oh so shut up, all right, I've got one, 831 01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:32.319 and I already tipped my hand a little bit earlier to it. But I'm 832 01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:36.239 still in love with it. It's a it's just churt Tycoon again. It's 833 01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:42.880 churt Tycoon. It's chirt Tycoon too, Churt harder. Um. No, 834 01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:48.600 it's a it's a telecommunications device. It's a phone that um can last you 835 01:11:48.640 --> 01:11:56.279 know, six seven hundred years if you wanted to. It's it's a conocchia. 836 01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:00.319 Oh I hear that people can die if they're buried under them. It's 837 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:06.880 right, So then then them's puns. Them's puns. Sure are boy? 838 01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:12.359 We really have a mound sitting over here? We do? We keep like 839 01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:15.720 not talking about it, passing by it. It's just so huge. It's 840 01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:20.560 you know what, Flora, It's time to excavate, really, yeah, 841 01:12:20.600 --> 01:12:25.199 because I was really hoping to, you know, just throw it away or 842 01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:28.319 Nope, we don't have that option. Vacuum over it. For science, 843 01:12:28.439 --> 01:12:42.680 we have to excavate this entire amount of listener. The children are happy. 844 01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:45.239 Yeah, they're gonna get filled trips galoa this man. Yeah, their kids 845 01:12:45.239 --> 01:12:48.960 are into it. I'm gonna kick this I'm gonna kick this thing off white 846 01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:53.920 hot. Okay, uh, first letter from a listener, new listener, 847 01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:56.800 well maybe not a new you know what I mean. That's kind of awkward. 848 01:12:56.800 --> 01:13:00.640 I don't know how long it's but first email, yeah, from the 849 01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:05.159 Bitter Cajun. Oh, bitter Cajun. I could have been the biggest cage 850 01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:09.039 and I could have been the biggest cage, but I wasn't willing to play 851 01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:14.680 that politics. Bitter Cage. No, No, I'm goy doesn't want to 852 01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:19.199 rustle me. Bitter Cajuns us. I'm actually surprised. Well, I mean 853 01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:25.640 so far. I'm not surprised because it is bitter Cajun. So I'm interested 854 01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:30.199 to see what bitter Cajun has to say. And are they bitter at us? 855 01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:36.560 No, not a bit. Even with all the horrible null, the 856 01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:41.479 snicker bars and Vienna sausages were fine. We're okay. I'll still got mustling 857 01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:45.600 them. Yeah, yeah. No. He started with the twenty fourteen Misscrypted 858 01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:51.039 episodes and says you couldn't think of a better way to join the blurryedom new 859 01:13:51.079 --> 01:14:00.760 phrase will be using again. So he hasn't had the full effect of the 860 01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:04.399 bitter part comes out. That's right. While he absolutely loves the podcast, 861 01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:08.359 his co workers may not be so much because he already had the act, 862 01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:13.800 the habit of slipping into accents occasionally which we cannot possibly be helping him, 863 01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:17.800 probably going to exacerbate that. But he kicks in with he's got some dream 864 01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:21.439 stories. Oh cool. Um, So when he was younger, he used 865 01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:27.279 to sleepwalk and his parents found him one night just out in the middle of 866 01:14:27.319 --> 01:14:31.680 the backyard without the bayou, in the middle of the night, and in 867 01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:36.680 his mind he was he dreamt that he was talking to a little fairies or 868 01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:42.079 sprites. Wow. And even two human sized no no name, no sning 869 01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:49.840 a ball. U saw two human sized seely sheet Wow. And to this 870 01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:53.520 day kind of has a hard time remembering was that a dream? Did that 871 01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:58.479 really happen? That kind of thing? Um? Also, uh used to 872 01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:02.119 be was married in a wick and now divorced and not a wicked, nonpracticing 873 01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:05.760 wicked. Okay, Um, he's a dude, but I'm gonna go ahead 874 01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:10.800 and call it hot wicked, Oh Colin hot wicken. Sure he's a good 875 01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:15.840 looking Sure, he's a good looking dude. Very interesting. Why I assume 876 01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:20.439 anything else. I mean again, I'm on pins and needles to see what's 877 01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:24.720 going to happen when he goes through our back cattle of Oh no, he's 878 01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:30.680 he's cool, he's down with it. But he actually had a dream that 879 01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:32.920 he was he had an uncle who was battling lung cancer but it went into 880 01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:39.239 remission. He had a dream that he went to Avalon with the goddess and 881 01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:43.439 was just really upset in the dream, shouting it wasn't fair that his uncle, 882 01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.640 you know, had children everything, and and the goddess was like, 883 01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:49.319 I'm sorry, there's nothing I can do. I don't have any miracles to 884 01:15:49.319 --> 01:15:54.159 give you, and and that she just had to accept that this was this 885 01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:58.000 was the time for him, and uh. And it gave him a real 886 01:15:58.039 --> 01:16:00.600 sense of peace about it, like he kind of worked through it in that 887 01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:04.039 dream. And it turns out that a week later his mother called and the 888 01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:08.680 cancer was back, and it was and it was worse than ever, and 889 01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:13.319 um and so and he did he ended up passing from it, unfortunately, 890 01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:16.359 and um. But this dream that he had allowed him to have a real 891 01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:21.039 sense of peace and calm about the entire process that he wouldn't have had otherwise. 892 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:25.359 So I think that's I think that's really great. I think it's I 893 01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:28.920 think it's amazing when you you can have something like that that gives you that, 894 01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:30.920 and I think people have very rarely, but you get those those rare 895 01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:35.960 dreams that that feeling from it really stays with you and it kind of changes 896 01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:39.840 something in you, and you really you get to you incorporate that into your 897 01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:42.960 life, as to pose the other way around, it's always your life intruding 898 01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:46.119 on your dreams, and it's it's it's a nice thing when when something like 899 01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:51.399 that, that that feeling of peace or calmness can can stay with you afterwards. 900 01:16:51.600 --> 01:17:00.159 Yeah. I feel like I've heard other stories where the Goddess come to 901 01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:03.399 people in dreams, you know, talks to them, is a guiding or 902 01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:08.680 or a source of wisdom. Yeah, And I you got to wonder if 903 01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:15.800 that's if it's different for different believers. Yeah. Well, in his story, 904 01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:20.880 because his family was told by a kind of a Southern Baptist group that 905 01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:25.079 oh, no, God's gonna heal the cancer, It's all gonna go away, 906 01:17:25.119 --> 01:17:28.199 Everything's gonna be fine. And in his mind, he's like, but 907 01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:31.079 I know it's not because I had my dream and I know how this is 908 01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:33.520 going to turn out, and it was kind of a hard point for him 909 01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:36.800 to be like, rum, yeah, and that does change a lot. 910 01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:45.159 And unless you think his entire dreaming history is either child endangerment or sad premonitions, 911 01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:49.279 the bitterccasion knows how to rock. And in this last dream that he 912 01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:55.199 shared with us, it's a bitch and ass car Chase born identity kind of 913 01:17:56.119 --> 01:18:00.560 just tear assing around a city and being awesome being pursued by people, and 914 01:18:00.840 --> 01:18:03.920 once again the Goddess appeared to him. But in this dream things got a 915 01:18:03.920 --> 01:18:15.840 bit more shall we say interesting? Oh better, CAGN head off the crowd 916 01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:23.119 just passing that dream and finally leaves us with some very elegantly crafted puntery. 917 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:27.560 Oh excellent, and says, never stop the puns. Oh okay, so 918 01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:33.079 duly noted, but the CAGN tells you you do it. The wrestling Cryptids 919 01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:36.239 are his favorite so far, and he was said to hear us leave out 920 01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:44.760 the individual who runs the wrestling Cryptid world, mister mcmanticore. Yeah, that's 921 01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:47.760 really awesome. Also, he can never forget the epic feud between the most 922 01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:58.319 electrifying bird encrypted Entertainment, the rock roc in his arch rival h sin bad 923 01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:03.000 News Barrett. Really, well done wrestling. It's awesome. That's awesome. 924 01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:05.880 So welcome on board. Thank you so much for your letter of mister bitter 925 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:10.119 Cages. Thank you, thank you. Hope, I hope you don't get 926 01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:14.039 more bitter through the back catalog again, but thank You'd be all right? 927 01:19:14.560 --> 01:19:16.840 You give my complex about it. It's like, what aren't they telling me? 928 01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:21.119 I guess if you're if you're into the wrestling puns, I think I 929 01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:24.560 think we'll be all right though. Yeah, you're gonna do just fine here, 930 01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:30.840 Flora, what do you got heard from a listener called Luna? Oh? 931 01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:33.960 How about that? Luna writes in to say that they're so happy that 932 01:19:33.960 --> 01:19:38.920 they found the podcast, and and we are too. We are very happy 933 01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:43.399 that you found on our podcast. We like to hide it sometimes, but 934 01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:45.560 you know, it's okay. Said. They used to be a fan of 935 01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:50.840 out There Radio, which I used to listen to back in the day before 936 01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:57.720 they stopped. Um that in Mysterious Universe were a couple of things that kind 937 01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:00.319 of pushed me over the edge for wanting to do a podcast, asked, 938 01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:03.159 Oh, yeah, the boys from the University of Georgia. There they I 939 01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:09.319 think you can still find that on online, uh iTunes, I think, 940 01:20:09.439 --> 01:20:15.199 but out there radio it's it was a fun uh fun one. So um, 941 01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:18.680 and Luna says, thanks for existing. I guess, hey, so 942 01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:24.039 we're happy to Yeah, and as you know got in my witness, I 943 01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:28.800 shall continue too. That's right, thanks Luna, Thanks for writing in Luda. 944 01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:32.600 You know what me? Yeah, yeah, what I could have cured 945 01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:40.680 scurvy really for hundreds of years, but I said nothing. Why Because I'm 946 01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:47.159 a dog lemon mother. I kept my mouth shut and I just watched their 947 01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:53.000 gums puff up. But if it weren't for you, we wouldn't have that 948 01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:59.479 Revolutionary War memorial in DC. Oh, he's true patriot. Hello dog Lemon 949 01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:04.239 Uh our lemon hits us up with some really important information. I'm sure it's 950 01:21:04.239 --> 01:21:06.720 not going to be upon at any point. Oh, don't think that's going 951 01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:12.640 to happen. I get scared sometimes when I start reading is well you should 952 01:21:13.239 --> 01:21:16.880 uh really really enjoyed the Pharaoh's episode, But did you know that the King 953 01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:20.960 Tut's curse was a little more involved than what Yeah, that's true. The 954 01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:25.840 reason only some of the original team were struck down was that it wasn't breaking 955 01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:30.720 the seal that brought on the curse, but rather entering the tomb's innermost sanctum. 956 01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:33.199 The curse only afflicted those who entered the chamber that held the pharaoh's most 957 01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:39.239 precious plunder in canopic containers. More properly, it was the curse of the 958 01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:48.159 Luton Jar room. And he adds the ox. Guys, that was a 959 01:21:48.199 --> 01:21:54.000 really well played dark Levin. Thank you. We've done man. Yeah, 960 01:21:54.319 --> 01:22:00.800 kinomic jars. Wow, they get you. We heard from listener Sean Hello, 961 01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:04.039 Sean Hello, Sean. Sean says, make T shirts so I can 962 01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:08.560 buy one. It's a really good idea. It's a really good idea. 963 01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:11.840 We're working on it, Sean. Yeah, you know, we we have 964 01:22:12.039 --> 01:22:14.520 a lot of discussions about this. We've got some cool artwork, we've got 965 01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:17.600 some stuff on deck, and now we it's it's just the boringest part like 966 01:22:18.399 --> 01:22:20.640 it. Do we get the shirts? So do we ship the shirts? 967 01:22:20.800 --> 01:22:26.279 So we're working on it soon soon and so soon, soon soon. We 968 01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:34.840 don't want to deny anyone the opportunity to buy Okay, yeah, um got 969 01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:42.079 an email from disturbed. Disturbed, where are you being well? I mean, 970 01:22:42.520 --> 01:22:45.600 don't ask it's disturbing don't. You don't even want to know the answers. 971 01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:48.239 If Disturbed wants to tell you that you're gonna get disturbed, and then 972 01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:53.079 we've got to find like new ways to spell disturbed. Disturbs already had to 973 01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:57.359 use a yan. This is how far this has already gotten. Knock it 974 01:22:57.359 --> 01:23:02.880 off, Flora, don't tell me what to do. And Disturbed, unfortunately, 975 01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:09.920 is indicting us for crimes against podcast ham humanity, and we're going to 976 01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:13.279 have to go to the penalty box. According to Disturbed. Oh really, 977 01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:16.800 now, I haven't even read the charges yet, so they are as follows. 978 01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:20.800 Okay, I really hate to do this, but I have to call 979 01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:25.880 out on a penalty box. In the Pharaoll's Curse episode where we talked about 980 01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:30.079 the the cobra symbol on kings head dress, can I get some forehead cober 981 01:23:30.159 --> 01:23:32.800 going right now? Flaura? Oh? You well, I don't know if 982 01:23:32.800 --> 01:23:40.000 he's Oh, it's just cruel to laugh at a thing you can't see, 983 01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:46.800 but it's great. The truth is that the cobra symbol the urus, was 984 01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:51.039 a symbol of royalty and sovereignty of ancient Egypt, particularly the Upper Kingdom. 985 01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:58.199 Later when the Pharaohs took over the Lower Kingdom and adapted the added neckabet the 986 01:23:58.319 --> 01:24:00.680 vulture symbol which had a similar meaning in the Lower Kingdom as the cobra and 987 01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:04.960 the Northern king. Tut's headdress had both of these symbols, which I assumed 988 01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:10.359 then meaning you know, he's covering the north and south side, right, 989 01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:15.840 But I mean which I'm sure it's true. Our research was pretty clear, 990 01:24:15.920 --> 01:24:19.800 like the sources that we saw, and granted I'm no Egyptologist, but our 991 01:24:19.840 --> 01:24:24.359 research said that it was a protection symbol. So yeah, that's what that's 992 01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:28.159 what I found. Flora, what do you got? Well, that's correct. 993 01:24:28.840 --> 01:24:31.279 First of all, that that is correct. And while we didn't say 994 01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:36.279 it wasn't it didn't symbolize that. We did say it was a symbol of 995 01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:43.239 protection. It is if you look into the what it where it came from, 996 01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:46.359 which was the goddess Watjet it is man and once you get once you 997 01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:50.479 get Flora busting out and wadget, you know you're in trouble it. Watch 998 01:24:50.520 --> 01:24:57.000 yourself disturbed, watch yourself. It is also a it's a symbol of protection 999 01:24:57.279 --> 01:25:01.039 that's embodied in that goddess. In the raising up of the cobra, the 1000 01:25:01.079 --> 01:25:08.119 cobra is it's a raised head cobra that signifies it's an icon of the protection 1001 01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:13.039 of wat Jet. It just also happens to be yes, the symbol for 1002 01:25:13.199 --> 01:25:16.359 well gavel gavel case dismissed. We were able to back it up. But 1003 01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:20.600 thank you disturbed, and and I that you should always call us out on 1004 01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:26.159 our bullshit. Yeah, I think in this case, Yeah, it's just 1005 01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:30.439 a case of of not saying the whole the whole thing. Yeah, all 1006 01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:34.319 right, well, thank you disturbed, not not I anyway, I we 1007 01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:38.880 we really lawyered our way for that one. But I like lawyering. It's 1008 01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:42.319 fun to do. But yeah, what else we got on this this hit 1009 01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:46.880 parade? Until you see and this is why they follow through is such a 1010 01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:51.640 deportant part of the bad minton game. Is he followed through after you hit 1011 01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:56.520 the shuttle cack is is such an important part. I mean, I only 1012 01:25:56.600 --> 01:26:02.199 wish Don Lucas to show you because his form is what can't you see I'm 1013 01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:10.359 teaching the children the hacienda badaminton. He's in a no importante message for you. 1014 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:17.800 What could be so importante? Okay, hello boys, sorry for my 1015 01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:23.840 absence. Children, shut your thirteen mouths. This is a letter from town 1016 01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:28.880 Loop. I must read it and hear his voice. I just got back 1017 01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:32.800 from doing a month of archaeology in Belize. Marco, I said, shot 1018 01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:43.359 it, and I've spent a couple of weeks, a couple of weeks catching 1019 01:26:43.479 --> 01:26:46.520 up. I hope that Marco is not giving you too much trouble. Oh 1020 01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:51.680 look, it is so smart, Marco, He's aren't doing you. Did 1021 01:26:51.680 --> 01:27:00.119 you know that the gentleman pirate continued his career in bandatre after his unsuccessful to 1022 01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:06.000 Go endeavors. He teamed up with a handsome fellow and rubbed the banks. 1023 01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:14.840 They call themselves stead the bonnet in Clyde. It's like bunnying Clyde. I 1024 01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:21.479 have no historical reason to understand. A new tea product from Pass was released 1025 01:27:21.520 --> 01:27:29.439 with the collaboration of a well known Mexican fast food restaurant, Your Sister Alone, 1026 01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:33.840 although no one has been able to actually find the lost restaurant of Taco 1027 01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:41.960 Bell Doorado. If it's generally accepted that in these lands one can find the 1028 01:27:42.279 --> 01:27:46.880 new pepsi product which is said to come and hear one's self, should they 1029 01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:54.199 concentrate on it for long enough. This product, of course is crystal dark, 1030 01:27:54.279 --> 01:28:00.239 geling the this is so glad Marco. Time out. Now that's it. 1031 01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:05.640 I have no more patience. Did you know that Egar Allan Poe would 1032 01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:14.920 gather his own ratings. He would make several Poe Boys sandwiches, decorate rooms 1033 01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:33.119 with poses, and advertise all around town with postcards. An unusually strong crustacean 1034 01:28:33.239 --> 01:28:40.039 that was born with a hammer in his hand. Pron Hinry, a well 1035 01:28:40.119 --> 01:28:45.239 known Alto culturalist who sold out to an iced tea company. Johnny Snapple Seed. 1036 01:28:46.279 --> 01:28:49.520 Oh don't look, you have so many puns. I feel like I 1037 01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:54.960 should save something later, but I cannot tell me more. A sung by 1038 01:28:55.119 --> 01:29:01.960 Tom Jones about a Wild West showwoman Bambalama, the Jane shout out to Lad 1039 01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:11.039 Benny and the DJ and regarding the Curse of the Mummy, it is well 1040 01:29:11.079 --> 01:29:16.840 known that poisonous guesses are a huge hazard to archaeologists, not in the least 1041 01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:24.680 to one. Howard Farter had is a joke of flatulence, and I enjoy 1042 01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:28.760 it. And finally, Marco, what did I say? The timeout was 1043 01:29:28.800 --> 01:29:30.800 over? No, No, don't look at me like that, Marco. 1044 01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:39.039 A product pitch has the Sahara Desert left you high and dry. Try Lord 1045 01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:53.439 Cornaveran's anti malarial gin and tonic guaranteed to quench the thirst of the mummies once 1046 01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:57.520 again. I must carefully fold this and put it into the bundle of letters, 1047 01:29:57.520 --> 01:30:00.479 and don't look under my bed, held together with a ribbon with he 1048 01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:08.439 sent upon it. I miss you, Marco everything I shouldn't miss you. 1049 01:30:08.520 --> 01:30:15.880 Donok, Marco's a little prick. Wow, welcome Don Marco. It's a 1050 01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:19.199 place with rules, Marco, and rules you need to follow. Oh. 1051 01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:21.880 Man, well, I've got a great letter here from the forty in mind. 1052 01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:26.640 Oh and man, I hope you're ready for this because it's righteous. 1053 01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:30.279 Uh forty and Ryan writes us, I doat love your show, gentlemen, 1054 01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:36.079 and wouldn't pass it up given the chance. Oh yes, Uh just recently 1055 01:30:36.079 --> 01:30:44.039 started listening and has already inhaled the entire back catalog and has had to open 1056 01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:47.439 up the grimmery from the shelves and blow the dust off its leathery covering, 1057 01:30:47.479 --> 01:30:53.680 cast a spell to spin and spun to the internet. Gods. Uh, 1058 01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:57.399 we've got we've got some puns coming our way. Oh yeah, lock it 1059 01:30:57.439 --> 01:31:00.640 down. A little know in fact about the fulk hero Paul Bunnying is that. 1060 01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:06.720 He had a younger brother who was also a lumberjack, Ronnie Ronnie Bunny. 1061 01:31:09.840 --> 01:31:14.119 He really rebelled against it. He wore leather jackets and smoke cigarettes planted 1062 01:31:14.159 --> 01:31:18.000 trees. Although not as large as his older brother, he was still talked 1063 01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:23.439 talked about by people of the day due to his sharp black suit that he 1064 01:31:23.439 --> 01:31:28.560 wore Walston the oh I love where this is going. I'm already invest now 1065 01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:31.920 people. He was still talked about people of the day due to his sharp 1066 01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:35.319 black suit that he wore walst in the forest, using his long, skinny 1067 01:31:35.399 --> 01:31:41.439 arms to chop down trees. He was known as the Timberman. Oh oh, 1068 01:31:41.560 --> 01:31:46.800 that stock just couldn't get any higher. Off the coast of Nova Scotia 1069 01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:53.479 lies two more islands known for their indulgence in illegal substances on both sides of 1070 01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:59.840 the psychoactive substance spectrum. You can visit Toke Island and enjoy and enjoy joy 1071 01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:02.520 full laughter on the beach, or if in danger of Europe is more your 1072 01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:05.800 thing, head over to Coke Island, but keep in mind that most who 1073 01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:15.960 have set foot on its stores and never get offune. That was a really 1074 01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:23.640 good what is that called like a snort sounds like a snort battle cry. 1075 01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:30.000 I love those. And finally, nestled in a hidden location somewhere in England 1076 01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:33.079 lies the burial place of a family that has long eluded discovery by authorities. 1077 01:32:36.920 --> 01:32:41.439 This is only fitting as in life they evaded capture, although they were known 1078 01:32:41.479 --> 01:32:45.039 to hand out slaps to there would be captors. The sacred place of rest 1079 01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:57.800 is known as the Valley of the Springs spring heel Jack slab oh Man well 1080 01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:03.359 played forty in mind thang you nicely done. So thank you everybody once again, 1081 01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:08.439 thank you, thank you so much for writing in do not stop and 1082 01:33:08.600 --> 01:33:12.960 uh couldn't help. But notice didn't see any mundane superpowers in this little batch 1083 01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:15.680 here, So you know what I'll tell you, um, because we we 1084 01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:20.119 got another explosion and and then you took off for Iowa. So we do 1085 01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:24.720 have a backlog. I think there are some in there, delicious, There 1086 01:33:24.720 --> 01:33:28.479 are some in there. There. There are others puns there. There are 1087 01:33:28.560 --> 01:33:34.560 missives and um messages, nice nicely crafted novellas in there that we are going 1088 01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:40.119 to get to love it um, either supplemental or another episode. You'll you'll 1089 01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:42.439 hear yourself. No, you're gonna get it. You'll get what's going to 1090 01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:45.239 happen. You know what to do. You know that, you know the 1091 01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:51.439 deal. iTunes is good for us. If thanks, it says the song 1092 01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:58.600 for thanks, everybody who's rated us and reviewed us recently, that's very kind 1093 01:33:58.640 --> 01:34:00.640 of you, and we're very much. It makes me feel good. Sometimes 1094 01:34:00.680 --> 01:34:04.199 I don't often because it makes me feel awkward. But sometimes when I'm like, 1095 01:34:04.319 --> 01:34:06.800 man, I'm having a crappy day. I'm not joking. I read 1096 01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:12.039 the iTunes reviews and I'm like, I'm not devoid of merit. It makes 1097 01:34:12.039 --> 01:34:15.800 me feel better. Go to Facebook and like a page the year, and 1098 01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:21.680 go to stumble Upon and stumble all upon it and go to Twitter. We're 1099 01:34:21.720 --> 01:34:27.760 on blurry underscore photos. Don't forget the donate button. Don't we love it? 1100 01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:30.239 And we have we have a good plans for it. Oh we do. 1101 01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:36.399 We do actually, which are tied to merchandise that might might be hitting 1102 01:34:36.439 --> 01:34:43.720 up the website and sometimes if you're if you're into this sauce, check out 1103 01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:48.680 Blastro podcast, which may may recently feature an episode with the David's That's Right 1104 01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:54.159 with the Tori Beloordo having adventures in time and space and talking about things we 1105 01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:59.279 like. Yeah, like us blastro podcast. Check that one out. Uh 1106 01:34:59.479 --> 01:35:02.560 and and look forward to the near future. We're gonna have a little more 1107 01:35:02.640 --> 01:35:08.439 a little more sauce on our end. We've got another another arrow in our 1108 01:35:08.520 --> 01:35:13.359 podcast quiver. We actually filled the quiver up. We just need to shoot 1109 01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:15.680 them right now. Very true. So we've got some fun stuff coming in 1110 01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:21.800 August with hdtri Belordo's adiot roommate Mark Soloff coming up. That's gonna be fun. 1111 01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:25.000 Yeah, and that's gonna be kind of a different format for us, 1112 01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:27.520 So look forward to that. Yeah, well we'll tell you about it when 1113 01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:30.800 it hits, but you know, a little a little something extra for you 1114 01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:34.880 to Yeah, we're calling it Bulstone U. And the plan is we're gonna 1115 01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:39.159 get with people that we like, people that are funny and talented and we 1116 01:35:39.279 --> 01:35:44.399 enjoy them and just we're gonna talk about things of interest. So I know 1117 01:35:44.439 --> 01:35:47.960 that we've I'm excited to talk about time travel with Mark Soloff. Yeah. 1118 01:35:48.039 --> 01:35:54.720 Yeah, we plan on having friends of the podcast, Mel Evans and Mark 1119 01:35:54.760 --> 01:35:59.479 Coom from an Hour with your Ex. We'll talk about something. We're gonna 1120 01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:03.439 just shoot the sh with our friends and it's it's probably not going to be 1121 01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:06.840 very informational, but hopefully it'll be fun. Yeah, you know, and 1122 01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:12.880 it's something that we can less less you be concerned that we're abandoning our scholarly 1123 01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:15.840 pursuits. This is this is again, this is kind of like a sidesy 1124 01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:17.560 thing. It just seemed fun to do. Yeah, we'll still do a 1125 01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:23.159 bunch of bullshit internet research and and still keep doing our bullshit podcast, that's 1126 01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:26.920 all right, and do a bunch of bullshit intros that you're like, when 1127 01:36:26.960 --> 01:36:31.399 is this going to be over? Anyways, though, that's what's coming up. 1128 01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:39.560 I hope you're keeping on um Man Summer. Summer's keeping on, that's 1129 01:36:39.640 --> 01:36:44.159 right. But but we're neither of us are wearing a sweat absorbing headband, 1130 01:36:44.239 --> 01:36:46.119 so we have that to be very thankful for. That's true. We have 1131 01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:55.079 managed to put the the studio in a place that is climate controlled and below 1132 01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:58.720 the Earth's surface, in a bunker. It takes us a while to get 1133 01:36:58.720 --> 01:37:01.720 out of here, but totally worth it. A lot of ladders. That's 1134 01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:06.960 that's why we haven't no no kilts rule. There was a problem with the 1135 01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:11.359 ladder one day. Anyways, for this episode of Blurry Photos, I have 1136 01:37:11.439 --> 01:37:15.319 been David Churt Flora, you son of a bitch. I really was sure 1137 01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:19.560 that I put my stamp all over Churt. You did. I just stole 1138 01:37:19.560 --> 01:37:23.800 it? No, no, no, dude, that's fine because I pre 1139 01:37:23.960 --> 01:37:27.880 stunted around it. I knew you were gonna do it. I'm David extra 1140 01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:41.560 chunky stecco. Oh what a roll? Roll? Roll roll roll, roll, 1141 01:37:41.680 --> 01:38:21.199 roll roll roll? Can we lose our chunky best day? Goolden target 1142 01:38:21.239 --> 01:38:25.840 mine, friend. I had just the simplest of questions for you before you 1143 01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:30.159 go into the biblioteca. It's a simple question, but I must have an 1144 01:38:30.159 --> 01:38:39.680 answer. What if I can't you ins d d D? What if I 1145 01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:44.960 can't you ins du du don't? This is the song that's v A sing. 1146 01:38:45.520 --> 01:38:56.640 What if I can't you du? What if I spotify? What if 1147 01:38:56.680 --> 01:39:06.159 I spot if I dud? I haven't your answered well,