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Well, will we be alive for
the tri centennial. I might myself.

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I've long I've long predicted that I'll
die in a fire explosion or I will

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live to be like one hundred and
twenty. I know I've been talking to

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Amanda about it. It's episode seventy
five. We're here with the fire Escape

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Cast. I'm Mike, your host
is always here with Dan, Hello and

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Mary. I didn't mean to sound
disappointed when I said that was just like

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altering my octave. Okay, wait, let me start over. We're here

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with Firescape Cast. It's episode seventy
five. It's our three quarterennial. I'm

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Mike as always here with Dan,
Hello and Mary. Thank you. That's

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the intro I deserve. Yes,
seventy five uppisodes. I got all numbers

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for a show that it was only
like twice a month. That seems like

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a lot of episodes. Yeah,
and it's run by a bunch of like,

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you know, degenerates, job having
dong sure, drinking and just hanging

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out and then we hit record because
we have we all have shoot gigs as

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they call it, during the day
and then we we like to hang out

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with our brands and have some drinks. At night. This is our relaxation.

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It's a podcast, but we're relaxing
here. This is my relaxation,

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damn it. And I won't do
it unless I'm relaxing. But people treat

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us really well. Got a lot
of good patrons, got a lot of

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great emails all the time. We
got some good questions for tonight. We

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really appreciate fans. We got to
do a meet up again. I don't

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want to promise anything because we have
no idea what the year is going to

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bring. Well. I mean,
we know there's a lot of travel and

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it's busy, but like if we
can find opportunities for another meetup. The

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one that we did in uh Flat
Iron in New York was super fun.

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We had like a bunch of people. They showed up, people from the

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trist scene area showed up. It
was great. Yeah, it's hard to

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it seems like all three of us
have some pretty insane like March April is

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going on with travel and at our
calendars, weren't we and we were like

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we got GDC's, we've got paxxis, we got WrestleMania's, we got all

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sorts of stuff going on, So
yeah, between that might get some funky

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episodes here in the next month or
so, maybe some guests and things like

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that, but we'll make sure to
make it fun. We just had one.

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I wasn't on the last one.
You guys had you guys, you're

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on the episode. You weren't on
the bonus episode that counts. Oh,

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the Hell Divers, Yes, yes, we could. We should plug that.

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Yeah, if you are a videotier
patron, or if you want to

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be, you've got an incentive because
Jake, Dan, Me and Disney Adult

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Mike Minatti jumped into Helldivers for like
two hours. I want to say it

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was two. I think we were
hanging out for like three and a half.

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But it's Hell Divers two and servers
are still fucked. So Mary,

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I could have used you. I
could have used you. Mary. The

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mics together was a more potent force
than I could have predicted. Yeah,

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I take him down with mines the
entire time. It seems we were busy.

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I haven't. I haven't to watch
it or listened to it yet.

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I just remember during the I don't
think this was in the recording, but

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no, we were trying to get
in the game because I think Dan and

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I got into the game, got
lucky early on, and then Mike and

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Jake were having trouble or was I
having trouble? I think it was everyone,

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And I mentioned that the night just
previously before the recording, I had

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been to the two towers at Radio
City to watch the movie with the live

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orchestra. We talked about I did
that with Fellowship last year. But I

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started talking about it and then we
just kind of had a lull while we

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were waiting for people to get into
the queue, and Mike Manatti said,

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oh, I think I could play
it on my my tin whistle here just

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sitting at his desk, and then
started playing the Shire theme on his tin

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whistle, and I, I tell
you I'm a married man, but uh

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and a Disney adult no less,
I know, it's kind of did I

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kind of call it this way,
that there's a lot like you guys are

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weird and similar ways, even if
the interests do not, I mean,

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there's not outside of the name Mike
and video games. I'd like I feel

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like they're both the crossover is they're
both weird. Yeah right, I think

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you phrased it saying we both share
like a parallel like a chromosome somewhere there's

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but there's a good natured weirdness to
both, and you're both very aware of

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how weird you are and you both
own it, which I think is an

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extremely good trait to have for both
of you. Someone you I'm not self

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aware, but I agree. No, you guys together was very interesting,

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And who knows. With shifting things
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we have no idea what who's going
to be on what episodes or which ones

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are gonna need guests. I still
want to get you two on a proper

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fire escape episode together sometimes if the
occasion arises, Because Dan, I think

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the only correct me if I'm wrong, from your two memories, but I

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think the only two person episode we've
done was you and Hanson when Mary and

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I were I don't know where we
were. Yeah, I had him overhere

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the in personal one. Yeah,
there might be a case where Mike and

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I just hang out talk about wine
and Disney. That's the thing that everybody

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wants to hear. Yeah, that's
going to be our number one EPI.

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Everyone remember the one with the two
mics talking about who gives a ship?

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The ratings will be through the roof
Mary, you and I are out of

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a job. Honestly, if that's
what takes me out, you guys deserve

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each other. I mean, Mike
would have to buy out both of our

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individual thirds of the LLC. But
if he's willing to do that, if

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you can pony up, then it's
the mic show. It wouldn't be that

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expensive. We should do a succession
spoof. And then we're like, wait

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a minute, this is only like
X thousand the eldest Boy. He's the

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Roman. Me no, I think
Manati's the Roman. You're the Kindle.

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Oh not wait, what are you're
the case? Just what the people we're

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talking about here? You're talking about
the fire Escape regular family of US four

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Jake, Oh, I think your
Kindle in all warms? Is it sexist

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to call Mary the ship? Because
I actually do think she is the ship?

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Absolutely? Come on. I think
it's trying to sexist and accurate because

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I don't think I am the ship. Both who's the I think it's both.

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Jake is the is Jake the cousin
greg or the Tom woms Gam.

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He's cousin Craig for sure. But
it's not about smartness. It's about his

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roll overness, like you just push
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it. Am my, Logan,
No, who are you? You might

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be Tom like like Tom dude,
I mean spoiler, No, I'm the

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bad guy. I won't I guess
I won't spoil it. But like all

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back, Tom doesn't really Tom gets
his and he didn't happy. No,

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yeah, you're to be happy.
Show is happy. I can't be part

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of the criteria because like you,
what about the uncle? What about Logan's

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brother James Cromwell, No, you're
not at all him. He's like this

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extremeist like like, well, we
won't get into politics. I know.

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Usually that's my whole thing is extremist
politics. No, you're not him.

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He's like anti sponsorship corporation kind of
personal. I love sponsorship, I know,

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that's what I'm saying. Okay,
if you can do the Tom and

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I mean that's a compliment, Like
he's way smarter than the family, like

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that, he does really smart.
Have we given someone to Connor though,

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because he's Connor. I'm Connor.
I would I would successfully run conn man

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Connor Connor. Let me let me
explain it before you fight it. Okay,

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he's trying to run on celebrity.
What does that apply to me?

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You really go far based on who
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sponsors for any reason at any time
if they give you stuff that you like

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and provide. Connor is a rich
kid I came from. You can't win

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with that. I'm finding parallels here
Dan. Dan is too consistently successful that

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he could run for president and win. I actually think Dan could win and

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Connor never does win anything show I
would have a Dan. You do not

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have a better shot. That guy
was rich for really, I don't think.

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I think it's unlikely president weirdos I
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get based on what the show says, because Connor is running in that weird

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have another one a really hot partner. It's interesting and people gravitate towards in

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the well. Go see what she
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telling you, I actually complicated factors
for that character. The conn man,

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I think you would like get farther
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he's running on that weird like survivalist. I'm just going to protect our water

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and the elite will be able to
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I think that's the general gist of
his. Dan would do the opposite.

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He would run as a heel and
be like, no one needs clean

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water. I'm the only person with
clean water. Come and get it.

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Boson your sky, insult the column
dorks. Yeah, you can get to

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president by just insulting people, right, Connor thinks, oh, yeah,

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you clearly can. It seems to
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energy. I could be the Roman, for sure. I have. I

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also have weird like massochist kinks.
Yeah, only one of us would probably

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be likely to send Dick pics on
accident and is still so it's really good.

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That was one of the most like
shock horrific scenes in any show ever,

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including what's this face? Oh?
Sorry, will you finish? We're

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talking about shows. You guys finished
True Detective, Night Country. I haven't

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watched it yet. Night Cruncher.
You could go for a night cruncher,

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bar night, I thought, he
said, Night Country, Mary, what

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do you think? Okay, can
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I think that's wrong. It just
the new episode just went okay, I

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don't spoil it, but it's wrong. Don't even ask people to skip,

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just do general thoughts because I want
to watch it too. All right,

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Mary, what do you think?
I liked it? Real? Yes,

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I think this will be a controversial
one because it has an interest way to

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wrap and this one, this is
not a spoiler. This is like in

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the advertising. This one is more
like mystical, like it could be right,

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and so it's very different than your
standard who done it? But the

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ending wraps it up very nicely for
me, and I was very satisfied with

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the ending. But I don't think
it's as good as season one, which

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one could my god, right,
yeah, but I think it is the

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most successful since season one in my
opinion, And I was a moment to

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moment. Yeah. I thought it
was the best to watch throughout the season.

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But then it like did a more
extreme version. I thought of the

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Lost thing that I hated about Loss, where it's like we're gonna build all

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these mysteries and then at the end
it's just like, whoa, No,

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here's this thing that like the amount
of like massive plot holes and things that

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came out of nowhere and things that
they didn't even remotely try to explain,

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or things that were like super inconsistent
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season, like it was a lot, lot lot of that. It's really

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hard to refute you, but I
refute you, and I think that it

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does actually explain things pretty well.
But it does require a little bit of

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like imagination because a lot of the
things they're explaining throughout the show, and

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I wonder, I'm not going to
ask you to rewatch it, especially if

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you didn't like it, But once
we got to the end, I was

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like, Oh, that does actually
explain a lot of the things that were

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happening that led up to this.
I will say I thought the performances were

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incredible. I thought everything that the
direction, the building of the mystery and

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everything was fantastic. I just felt
at the end, what the fuck was

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that? Like just really out of
nowhere? But anyway, was this also

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Nick Pitzelado from No He has been
actively like hating it on social media because

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he did he do season three or
did he just do one and two?

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I don't know. I hate season
two is the worst one. I think,

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Yeah, it's boring. It's just
it's really bored and confusing. Yeah.

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Actually, now I'm curious. I'm
going to look up if he did

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the Marcilla Ali that one was better. At least you could follow it,

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but like it was just very much
just info dump In the last episode of

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season three was like, here's what
happened? This so the series created by

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Nick pitts Alta. But did he
do it? There's the Carrie? Was

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that the director of the first one? Carrie something? Carry did? He

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did a few? Yeah, Carry
did it part one. He's done a

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lot of good stuff. Okay,
film and television first season, True Detective

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second season. Why is it so
hard to find you? Guys? Vamp?

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While I look? And he did? He did it with he co

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wrote with someone. I don't think
so no, wait a minute. In

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pitts Alta revealed that he had assisted
dead Wood creator David Milch in writing the

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screenplay for the film adaptation. In
return, Mitched helped him with the Milch

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helped him a third season of True
Detective by co writing the fourth episode,

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as well as giving Pittsulado advice on
crafting the season. I did not know

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David Milch had anything to do with
True Detective season three, and Deadwood's one

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of the best things ever. I
am not watching True Detective Night Country Night

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Cruncher because we finished Better Call Saul, Aho are you feeling about it?

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Incredible? And I will say,
speaking of Deadwood, I did not love

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True or Better Call Saul. I
didn't hate it, but I was like

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confused as to why you guys were
over the moon about it until like late

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season three. It takes a while. It's a slow burn, which is

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why I say it reminded me of
dead Wood because Deadwood, I feel like

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it is working on you really subtly
for many episodes before anything really quote unquote

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happens, and by the time it
does, you're like, oh wow,

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there's a lot of really essential character
building going on that I did not expect.

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But I also Better Call sauw.
When did that end? It was

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last year? I believe it was
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twenty two or so, I would
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it didn't end though, No last
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it's done, it's done done.
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so I think it. I think
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the pandemic, but or after Lockdown, I should say, but yeah,

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Without spoiling too much, there were
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for two seasons, Amanda and I
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make her. I feel like she
was just kind of Saul's like a wife

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in the fridge. What is the
phrase? Like that sounds about right?

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For two seasons. Yeah, and
then finally I think they started doing really

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cool things with her, Like great
the way they start mirroring Saul with her

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and showing that she's actually not this
like just his moral compass, but in

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seeing the parts where she kind of
slips into stall stuff too, and oh,

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she's not this moral white all the
time character. Yeah, she's kind

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of getting into like fuck this guy
over God. Two of the harshest,

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most brutal TV deaths I've ever seen. I know the one, there's one

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I can definitely there's one other one. There's one toward the end. Who

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is you guys know who I'm talking
about? Yeah? That was so tragic

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when you really think through like how
it happens, Like why did they do

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this? So I already felt that
we're in spoiler territory here obviously, So

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I guess if you haven't finished better
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Yeah, I'll just say the Howard
thing. I was already during that

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scene feeling so sorry for him because
like, yeah, he is a douchebag.

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He's clearly a douchebag, but like
they went out to like ruin his

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fucking life. And I love his
part where he comes to the apartment.

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He's like, yeah, you won, you know, but you're still gonna

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be shitty people all land on my
feet I always do. I'm fine,

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Hey, congrats, here's a champagne
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trying to leave and then that happens. Like Jesus, he's painted as a

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douche and yes, he's got some
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but he's still at heart. Like
before shit went down in that meeting

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that they set up to ruin him, he was having one helping this random

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intern that he didn't know. He
was showing him the carbonate in then and

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like yeah, he like forgot the
guy's name, but he was like imparting

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this. Not this wisdom on the
intern. Is that evil? No,

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not at all. I feel like
the solid kind of is the way worse

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character. The whole point of like
the entire show is that no one is

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evil, right, Like everybody is
complicated, and there's a lot of nuance

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to why we consider someone bad or
good and bad bad characters in that show,

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though, I think that they try
their best because like the point of

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that show is to show that there's
a lot of reasons that people are bad,

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right, that there's like a reason
that someone acts the way they are.

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It is so such a pain in
the butt all the time, except

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for the solomonas, I don't see
any redeeming good stuff, humanizing charming,

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but there's nothing good about him.
I'm going to go to Germany to kill

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a guy in the woods and seduce
a woman and like break into her house

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and Okay. So the other brutal
death, which I actually like cried very

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hard during it was brutal, was
the lead engineer, the German dude Werner.

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Oh, that one's rough year.
Not only not only did he realize

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he had Mike had to kill him, he said this great line like when

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he knew, he's like he's even
then he was trying to like make it

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easy on Mike. So he's like, yeah, the stars are so pretty

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out here in Albuquerque. I think
I'll walk out a while just to get

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a better glimpse. That's my German
accent. And Mike, of course walks

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out shooting. But before that,
he had to figure out a way to

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get his wife to stay away from
New Mexico. So he had to basically

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like yell at his wife, who
he loved more than anything, and like

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tell her shut up, like I
don't want you here, and he can

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get back in the plane. Yeah. The way he hangs up, he's

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like already suppressing tears and like,
oh my god, this is the roughest

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thing ever. It's really rough.
And also he's so friendly. He's trying

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to like teach these guys at the
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And Mike he's just excited about it. He's like passionate about it. And

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Mike's have to kill him. I
like went to bed sad that night after

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watching that episode. But god,
Howard was rough, like Howard, and

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then Howard just gets buried next to
Lalla believe meet the leg. Yeah,

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and of course it's like there's that's
one of the cool like retro like it's

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funny. I told Amanda's beginning of
the show. I think it was good

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despite being a prequel, like they
weren't banking on that, and then later

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in the show it was good in
many ways because it was a really clever

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prequel, like so many retroactive things. Figuring out that Gus had this secret

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tunnel the other side of the road
kind of repaints the scene where Walt is

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going to his house to like maybe
kill him and you might call to me.

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He's like, don't do it,
Walter, Like presumably they were in

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the house across the street with the
surveillance already set up because they knew Walter

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might do whatever. The fucking wine
scene with Gus and the sommelier at the

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restaurant, they're just talking about Rowan
Valley suras. I love that, of

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course, but god, yeah,
Werner and the whole subplot with the Germans,

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the secret you don't think twice about. I mean maybe others did,

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but I didn't think twice about how
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which Amanda, being the architect, loved,

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but I was like, I guess
I didn't think about that is and

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then they make a great storyline out
of it and introduce more of the Germans

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in addition to just the Magic All
Corporation. Yeah, the show is phenomenal.

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I still don't think it's this is
reductive apples to oranges, but not

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really. I don't think it's better
than Breaking Bad, having rewatched Breaking Bad

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recently, but it's really fucking good. And it's different too, It's a

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different product, and I think there's
such complimentary shows to each other obviously.

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And the last thing I'll say,
because we're watching The Sopranos again, I

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think too, Yeah, I think
first time. Oh shit, I want

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to ask about that. The thing
I like about Better Call Saul, And

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I'm curious if you guys would agree
or if you wouldn't. I think they

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let go of the likable anti hero
much earlier. I think mad Men,

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I think Breaking Bad, and I
think The Sopranos take a while to I

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mean, you should not. You
should not think these people are good people

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most of the show, if not
all of it, and you can recognize

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it. But they're still likable in
spite of their terrible deeds. Yeah,

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Better Call Saul. I think like
and Bob Odenkirk's a very likable dude,

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so like to get for the show
to like, for you to be like,

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oh man, I'm rooting against him. I think was impressive because I

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think a lot of shows hold on
to that anti hero thing too long.

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And they actually were like admitted that
he was a villain like halfway through the

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show, which was refreshing. I
don't know if that was just me though,

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Yeah, glad to finish it.
It's it's really really fantastic. It's

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a good show. Have you both
Mary, have you watched the Sopranos.

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No, I keep falling off of
it. Yeah, I've heard people say

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that, Jake, It's just yeah, you know, it's just a little

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slow for me. And I'm not
saying there's anything wrong with it. I

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just keep dropping off. I heard
there's a thing where like I don't know

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if it's just like a bro guy
thing or a frack guy thing or whatever

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it is, but when they rewatch
Sopranos, they skip or they want like

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cuts where it's like without all of
the doctor Melfie scenes. It's like,

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is the dumbest shit like that?
So the core part of that show is

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that like seeing this guy try to
like like like actually analyze himself and his

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decisions. Like I can't imagine watching
that show without those scenes. Now,

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David Chase said once that the elevator
pitch not the elevator pitch, but like

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the initial idea for the show was
just a New Jersey mob boss walks into

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a therapist's office. That was true
the court colonel of the show at first,

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And yeah, I can't imagine that
either. I think growing up,

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I thought it was a comedy because
like the uh it was before like serialized

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TV was a huge thing. I
know he had Oz and the couple before

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it or whatever around there, but
like the cut, like the key art

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or whatever, the post you all
we see is like Tony with his arms

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crossed in the front like he's the
fucking King of Queens and it's like mob

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guys over here, and I got
my family at home, Now, am

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I ever gonna have this wacky situation? Like I thought it was gonna be

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like wacky and then I didn't realize
until much much later, like oh no,

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this is like the definition of prestige
TV. I still think it's like

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the funniest show ever, like the
ship that they say, oh, which

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hilarious, I will say rewatching it. I don't know how many times this

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has been now, but we're rewatching
it, and every time I rewatch it.

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The first Siege season ages a lot
between rewatches, a lot of bad

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acting in the first season, there's
some great up. I still think it's

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a very strong first season, but
like compared to Breaking Bad, mad Men,

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even like Missus masl first seasons,
I'm like, wow, it's weaker.

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But they just everybody who left that
show to go do like Boardwalk,

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Empire and mad Men. You can
see how much better they got it.

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Casting good child actors specifically, Oh
sure, yea Prano's child acting and their

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kids. I want to give him
a pass, but like there are a

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lot of good child actors out there. I watched him play Mario sixty four

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of this kid just right hand.
Yeah. Yeah. One of the grossest

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items in my father's house, which
is saying something, is he wore for

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Time Warner when The Sopranos was airing, and they would occasionally give out like

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promo items, and one of them
was like an HBO made uh Sopranos salad

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dressing and it was in just like
a salad dressing. Jar I don't it

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was like an Italian or like Italian
seasoning or something. Yeah, it's like

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Italian seasonings pretty hanging much. But
it's like officially branded Sopranos salad dressing with

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Tony and the family on it,
the logo and all that. And so

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my dad hangs on to stuff all
the time in case he can eBay it

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for five dollars twenty years later or
whatever. So we still got it.

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But it's just green and lumpy.
Oh that's it. And so it's just

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the grossest fucking thing in the world. And he's just like, somebody's gotta

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buy this, right, I've been
looked like he's been looking it up and

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he can't find any other instances of
this existing. So we might have the

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only gross, rotten Sopranos Italian season
I am close friends with several people who

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would pay like halfway decent money for
that. If you need a picture,

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I'll ask my dad. It's still
sealed and everything it's sealed. That is

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a very funny collector's item. It
is sealed. Can you imagine the advertising

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company like meeting where they were like, we have to advertise the Sopranos.

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We want like a physical item gift. Should we give them this prego sauce

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that has like the sopranos on it. Should it be Italian seasoning in jar

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or should it be a nine millimeter
gun? What will be the grossest thing

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in twenty years? Oh man,
that's funny. I'll ask him for a

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picture, but I'll send it to
you. It's it's no good. There's

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been some like weird merch. I
remember, Mary, you and I were

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together when Resident Evil seven capcom teams
sent out that candle that you were supposed

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to light while you were playing the
game. Yes, like it smelled like

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dirty boxers. Like there was something
like gross and kind of musky, and

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like I don't know if mildew like
just not something you want to smell,

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and also smoke, like heavy smoke. Yeah, and I couldn't I stop

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giving me shit smelling candles as a
gag. I hate it. I've gotten

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them before. I got them one
after that too, either for like Dead

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by Daylight or some fucking game.
And they keep sending me candles that smell

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like ass and I just what are
you doing? I'm gonna throw it in

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the trash. I don't want my
house to smell like that. I mean,

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I got about your raw meat with
teeth and hair in it for bullet

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storm. Yeah, there's pictures on
game infom dot com with me digging through

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that is disgusting. I was just
when you said teeth and meat and hair,

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I thought you meant there's another package
I got that had meat and teeth

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and hair in it. And it
was for the horror game where you're an

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artist. It's called like layers of
Hair, Layers of beir. Okay,

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it came with it's still in the
game Spot office. I bet it came

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with like jars, like little vials
filled with teeth and hair. And I

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remember when we got it being like, this is fucked up. I don't

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want to own this. I'm glad
I work at this company because it will

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stay at game Spot. I don't
want it. Like you just get like

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so much funny. I literally just
got when we were talking about before we

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went live, like I just got
like a weird little package in the look

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at this. Yeah, I was
that for Pacific Drive. Yes, on

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the dashboard yea yeah, oh just
for our audio listeners. It is a

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wobble duck for your dashboard with as
he's wearing a hat. Days of the

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Dildo bat promo items are over.
I think we'll see I forget that.

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No. Same for the third big
Purple Dildo bat. I didn't personally,

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but I know it. Yeah,
do you put that out into the world,

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Dan, and we'll see what happens
to you and what you acquire.

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What was the one that send was
it Dead Island Riptide? That was the

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Collector's edition, which was just a
woman's torso with severed head and arms and

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legs bleeding. With the beginning they
cancel that they put out there, like

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here's our collector's edition, and everyone's
like, what the fuck? Never mind,

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and then the woman in the fridge
trip just sending like literally like severed

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parts of bodies. Yeah, good
move, definitely, we sent you a

405
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:26.440
pig's heart. Enjoy Resident Evil nine
stup. Oh, is this the Dead

406
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.000
Island Riptide zombie bait Collector's Edition.
Yeah, it's just a woman severed torso

407
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:37.799
and it's supposed to be zombie zombie
bait. That's not smart. No,

408
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:45.039
there's an art to sending out like
a package that's nice to receive and there's

409
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:49.359
maybe something of value in it that
you can enjoy later. I was,

410
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:55.599
uh, what was it? It
was the last of US two for HBO

411
00:28:55.720 --> 00:29:02.160
specifically sent goodie boxes and I got
one and it had like a really nice

412
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:06.519
Cartwright jacket, like those really durable
jackets. And I was like, I

413
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:10.160
will wear this jacket. And it
didn't have a bunch of crap on it

414
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:14.720
didn't say like don't kill me zombies, you didn't say anything stupid on it,

415
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.319
so I could like wear it like
a regular person. People are the

416
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:22.039
real enemy. That's what it says. Like it's like embroidered in the arm.

417
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:26.960
People are the real ones. That
was my jacket for freshman year college.

418
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:32.079
Was again when dad worked at Time
Warner and he got promo HBO stuff.

419
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:33.519
He got me this leather jacket and
I opened it up and I was

420
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.759
like, oh, this is awesome. Wow, this leather jacket cool.

421
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.519
And then I had just giant band
of Brothers patches on it. It was

422
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:41.720
like, God, damn it.
You just gave this to me because it

423
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:49.839
was free. Never even seen this
show, I no, no. I

424
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:53.640
bought it several times and have not. How well does the first season hold

425
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.960
up? Mike? It's only one
season. It's still really good. I

426
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:02.799
said what I said? What was
I going to say? The uh?

427
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:07.519
What was the game with the fox
Zelda? Uh? Two? Years ago,

428
00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.640
Tunic had a good like there,
I got that one one. Yeah,

429
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.359
it's a really good Their press package
also fed into the instruction manual like

430
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.519
puzzles kind of. Yeah, they
have the physical instruction thing that they're like,

431
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:23.079
yeah, I got that. What
did we do with those? We're

432
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:26.480
supposed to put it together with other
people, but we're supposed to talk to

433
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.920
other press people and figure it out. But I don't talk to the press

434
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.119
people. Giving each of us puzzle
pieces, what are we supposed to do?

435
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.240
Mail them to each other. We
could talk on me on the internet,

436
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:42.000
mingle, socialize our Facebook group.
I'm not going to do that.

437
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:47.200
No, I guess we'll never know. Dan. We can put ours together

438
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:51.359
and it'll be a mystery. I'm
break into Mary's place and get hers.

439
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:57.279
I burnt it. If I can't
solve the puzzle, none of you will.

440
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.559
I'm getting it. If it's it's
very obvious what it is, Like

441
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.920
we put together a photo with twelve
pieces and it's a naked man and the

442
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.240
only guy with the boner. I
was gonna say, the only missing piece

443
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:12.240
is clearly going to be the dick. So we know Mary got a peep

444
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:18.640
oh yeah, or but you'll never
know if it's like I'm being buried with

445
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.920
my penis puzzle beef. It's the
Fox character doing goatsy and we like,

446
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:27.200
it's just the whole. What is
this a little universe? This is fun.

447
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:32.240
What everybody else's puzzle is. It's
like a portal or something. Wow,

448
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:38.160
that's interesting. It's like a sarlac
pit. Oh god. Oh.

449
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:42.559
Speaking of packages that were sent to
us, I think I want to we

450
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:48.119
do want to thank Michael from High
Bank Distillery Co. In Ohio, Columbus,

451
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.400
Ohio. U so cool. We
had a this is not a sponsorship

452
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.480
or anything. They did not ask
us to say anything, but we all

453
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:59.200
had a uh. They sent us
a care package in their words, after

454
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.000
we talked about the difference between bourbon
and whiskey and whatnot, and they were

455
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:02.799
like, hey, you guys were
right about a lot. Here's some other

456
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:06.039
notes. And they also sent a
little back. Actually, it didn't just

457
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:09.000
say you are right a lot.
It starts with Mike was right. I

458
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:14.359
didn't want to a one. Yeah, that's what it started with, which

459
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:17.640
I thought was very cute. And
we talked about six flask size samples.

460
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.119
Yeah. They took the letter,
talked about the process of how the whiskey

461
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.759
is made and kind of explained a
little bit about why Mike was right.

462
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:30.839
And I think one of the things
I learned from that letter was that it

463
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.799
doesn't have to be from Kentucky,
but there is a very specific way in

464
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:38.759
which it's made with certain barrels,
and they pay attention to the proof and

465
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:43.880
all that stuff. So these are
not technically bourbon, which is cool because

466
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:47.759
it doesn't fall within those requirements.
But I mean, it's still good whiskey.

467
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.400
And I'm from Columbus, Ohio,
so I really appreciate this, So

468
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:57.519
thank you for sending this my way. This is like the whiskey of my

469
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:01.279
hometown. I went to kill Darby, so this is like really close to

470
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:07.200
where I graduated. Nice. Yeah, I've made several cocktails with it already.

471
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.519
I'm drinking an old fashioned out of
their whiskey war right now and it

472
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:13.599
is super delicious. So thank you
so much, Mike. I'm usually not

473
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.880
for like experimental one. I don't
I don't know if that's the right word.

474
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:22.119
I'm there's They send us one called
Midnight Cask, which is a i'll

475
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.720
read the bottle cask strength blend of
straight whiskys and port wine. I didn't

476
00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.359
think I would like that because I've
had bourbon that was aged in pino noir

477
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:36.359
barrels before, and it's as a
novelty. It's it's nice to taste it

478
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.240
first, but then it gets cloying. I'd rather just have bourbon. This

479
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:42.400
was really good, and also I
think I might be butchering it. They

480
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.079
also had one that aged in Amburana
barrels, which is a Brazilian wood,

481
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:51.119
and it's got this like really subtle
banana hint to the whiskey. Oh,

482
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.720
it's really good. I like this
stuff. And for like if for those

483
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:59.599
who don't superno geography in that area, they're not far outside of Kentucky,

484
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.039
even though an Ohio, so you
know, I'm sure they're absorbing a lot

485
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.880
of a there's a lot of give
and take between that area. But yeah,

486
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:07.159
bourbon does have to be American,
but it does not have to be

487
00:34:07.239 --> 00:34:12.440
from Kentucky. Yeah, thank you, Michael, thank you. Factos good

488
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.559
facts that we could learn a little
bit, and lots of tasting whiskeys,

489
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:22.159
so it was really nice. It's
also nice they like literally draw the percentage

490
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:27.079
on the little whiskey bottles and I
wonder if a lot of that is because

491
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.840
because it's blends, you know,
you don't really know one hundred percent until

492
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:31.880
it comes out. And so it
comes out and they test it and then

493
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.480
they write it on the bottle.
It feels very like like a like a

494
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.280
like a person did it. It's
got that nice person touched to it,

495
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:42.039
which I really appreciate it. That's
great, Thank you very much from It's

496
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.280
not a sponsorship and they didn't ask
us to say anything. They just enjoyed

497
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.800
our bourbon conversation and it's really good. Send it. We'll drink it and

498
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:54.360
talk about it. I think it's
good. You can don't send us that.

499
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.760
Do you go to High Bank.
Look, just look up High Bank

500
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.679
Distillery Co. You can buy their
bottles remotely and have it sent to you.

501
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:06.000
I mean there might be some states
that don't let you, but I

502
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:07.800
don't know that for sure. So
go try it out. It's really good

503
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:12.360
stuff. Thanks Thanks High Bank Distillery. Yeah, thanks High Bank and Michael.

504
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.679
We'll probably we'll mention it again toward
the end of the episode, but

505
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.639
for now, do you guys want
to talk about video games? Yes?

506
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:24.079
Dan, Yes, you've been playing
Final Fantasy seven rebirth. Yeah, this

507
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:30.039
is a weird spot for me because
as someone who's never been a JRPG guy

508
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:31.920
or a Final Fantasy guy, I
believe I'm the only one who's played this

509
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:37.320
right, uh correct? Rebirth.
Yeah, I played forty hours in the

510
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.519
last week or so of it.
I played the whole three day weekend.

511
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.480
Boy, It's interesting coming in as
not a newcomer. But I'm someone who

512
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:51.519
tried to play Final Fantasy seven a
couple times back in the day. I

513
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:54.280
never really got too much pass Like
I got a little bit into the second

514
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:58.840
disc of three. I don't really
have a ton of reverence for it.

515
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.480
I think the music was really good. I like the material system, but

516
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:04.960
again, never beat it. Don't
really know where the story goes. And

517
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:09.039
I feel like from people that freaked
out about remake and really loved it,

518
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:13.039
like the ben Hanson's of the world, are the ones that were obsessed with

519
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.480
the story and are very intrigued with
how it kind of plays with things that

520
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:20.239
happen there, so obviously big questions
about like, oh what happens. You

521
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.840
know, everyone knows about Earth and
everything like that, and the death and

522
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.559
you know how this game handles it, and to be fair. I don't

523
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:28.280
know yet. I'm forty hours in
from what I've heard, I think.

524
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:31.559
I think I'm on like chapter nine
of fourteen, so I can't speak to

525
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.880
that. I can't speak to the
story stuff a lot because I have to

526
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.119
like look up a lot of things, so like things will happen where there's

527
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.280
like a big it's like, oh, this guy pulls a hood back.

528
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:43.800
It's like I'm Glenn, who.
I don't know who the fuck Glenn is.

529
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.199
I've never heard of Glenn. Like, I've played the game, I

530
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.639
know the party, I know the
main characters and villains. Who the fuck

531
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.960
is Glenn? They're making them seem
like a big deal and this whole thing

532
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:54.039
with like ever, yeah, this
is gonna be like vaguely spoiler stuff and

533
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:57.320
I don't even know if I could
spoil stuff, well if I tried to,

534
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.920
But like, I think a big
part of this one is this Zaz

535
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.519
character that's still alive and I guess
he died in the original. Well,

536
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.320
yeah, Zach, I guess died
in the original, and that was the

537
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:07.239
big reveal at the end of remake. Is like, oh, God,

538
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:15.559
Zach's alive and that changes everything.
But yeah, it's I can. I

539
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:21.119
can feel it heading towards the nonsensical, Like I've talked to people about where

540
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:22.599
the story goes if I don't know
where it goes. But even like big

541
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:27.599
Final Fantasy fans I've heard be like, oh, it's incomprehensible by the end,

542
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:29.960
and like, I think somebody told
me that, Like I think the

543
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.480
Kingdom Hearts guy made this. I
was under the impression that the original team,

544
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.039
whoever made the original games, was
at least heavily involved in this.

545
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:38.760
But I guess it's the Kingdom Hearts
guy. I could be totally wrong on

546
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:43.000
that. I don't really know,
but that would explain that if it gets

547
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.400
crazy because I heard Kingdom Hearts doesn't
make any goddamn sense either. But to

548
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:50.599
speak to the things I can actually
speak to and know, well, the

549
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:53.360
open world stuff is really really good. That's something that didn't really grab me

550
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:57.760
about Remake is that it's all set
in mid Guar, so it's all pretty

551
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.920
linear, pretty damn linear, and
it's all kind of like dark, shitty

552
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:05.800
city, industrial city and ruins and
stuff like that. It's just like very

553
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.000
kind of samey. And I liked
the combat of Remake, but I fell

554
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:10.119
off a few hours before the end, just because like I don't know,

555
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:14.920
I didn't care about the story and
the setting was just kind of woring me

556
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:19.039
this one. There is so much
variety in the settings, in the gameplay,

557
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.480
like the pasting is so much better
between going from these huge open world

558
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:25.239
areas where it's like I was,
I was one hundred percent of every one

559
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:28.840
of these huge open hub worlds before
I moved on to the next one,

560
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.559
to like these hubtowns like this Coasta
del Soul or like the Golden Saucer where

561
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:36.840
there's just a million fun minigames,
weird little like carnival games, or like

562
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:39.639
kind of fleshed out like almost like
Clash Royale style, like strategy games.

563
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.079
There's a whole card game in there
called Queen's Blood, which is maybe my

564
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:45.880
favorite thing in the entire game.
It's just this, it's like a five

565
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:51.000
x three grid and you're getting these
decks. I don't it's like magic cards

566
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:52.880
or Pokemon cards where different ones have
different abilities and things like that, and

567
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:57.480
it's all about positioning and things like
that, and I fucking love it.

568
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.000
I mean, I would play I
would buy a physical version of Queens Blod.

569
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:01.880
I would play a full game that's
just Queen's Blood. That is one

570
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:05.679
of my favorite things. That introduced
a bunch of like gimmick matches and tournaments.

571
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.480
It plays into the story at times. By the way, it's funny.

572
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:12.159
This game is very, very funny. I usually think games don't do

573
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.320
humor, well this one does.
There's a part where there's a Queen's Blood

574
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:21.480
tournament and my dog Red thirteen got
mad because he couldn't be in the card

575
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:24.480
tournament because they don't allow dogs,
and so he stole a bunch of soldier

576
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:30.480
gear from like Shenra soldiers and showed
up at the tournament and did a bunch

577
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:35.000
of Michael Jackson dance moves in a
soldier suit to try to pass himself off

578
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.280
as a human, and everyone's like, yeah, that checks out. You

579
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.320
can play a dog, and the
dog plays and like as he's walking around,

580
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:43.880
it's this dog clearly uncomfortably trying to
like walk like a human on a

581
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.199
time legs. Like I'm laughing out
loud playing this game. It's fucking weird.

582
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:51.360
That's like Yaku's like a dragon humor, Yes, which you know what

583
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.199
I thought about Yakaza several times playing
this because yes, Yakaza like this is

584
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:59.360
very very intentionally funny as well.
But the big thing for me is the

585
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.679
thing that always drove me away from
j RPG's growing up, was I hated

586
00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:06.840
not having direct control of my characters. I hated going into a battle and

587
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:08.519
then being like, all right,
pick your shit from a menu and watch

588
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:13.440
stuff happen. Like I was so
kind of Mario brained an action game brain

589
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:15.599
that like the idea of just like
picking ooh, magic attack and then watching

590
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:20.960
it happen. I fucking hated that. And this year already, between Infinite

591
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:25.119
Wealth and Rebirth, they are both
straight up RPGs. These are big,

592
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:30.320
long, fucking JRPGs. But and
it's don't I don't want to say this

593
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:35.360
is turnbased, but they are JRPG
combat systems that they've done in a way

594
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:39.760
that it's very deep, but it's
very very snappy and engaging in the way

595
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:43.519
like Infinite Wealth will do this stuff
with all the positioning and things like that.

596
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:45.679
Infinite Wealth is more kind of turn
based, but like it. It

597
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.159
doesn't feel like I'm just picking something
from a menu. I feel like I'm

598
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.679
positioning and having more fun with it. I love the combat in both of

599
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:59.199
those games. Is the combat super
different in Rebirth from remakemake like action RPG

600
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.400
ish? Yeah, I really that
was my favorite part about Remake was the

601
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:05.840
combat and this kind of way.
I think this goes harder on like synergy

602
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:07.360
attacks and things like that, where
it's like, oh, if you have

603
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.360
Barret and teetha together, they'll do
this thing, and they're like, it

604
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:15.239
adds some things for sure. It's
more there's more different about this game than

605
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.159
I expected. I kind of expected
like when this was first and now it's

606
00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:21.440
the whole remake thing. I think
they said the word episodic or people assumed

607
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:22.719
it was episodic for a while,
and so I thought it was just going

608
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:28.440
to be like a continuation more than
like sequels. This does feel like a

609
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.480
sequel. There's enough things about the
UI and the combat system and just the

610
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:34.960
open world stuff where it's like,
this does not feel like chapter two of

611
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:39.079
Remake. This feels like a sequel
to Remake. But yeah, I really

612
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:43.960
am loving it. I honestly I
got I got the code a week or

613
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:45.360
two ago, and I was like, I wonder if I'm gonna get to

614
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:47.199
this. I got other someth still
working on Infant well, then you know,

615
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:50.400
I want to play this stuff.
And I started it and I was

616
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.400
like, God, damn, this
is like really really good and it makes

617
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:55.559
me so excited for big fans a
Final Fantasy seven. I think about Ben

618
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:58.639
Hanson a lot, and I got
a lot of friends that are really in

619
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:00.519
the Final Fantasy seven. And like, imagine if your favorite game of all

620
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:06.079
time, something you grew up fucking
loving, got a person of just a

621
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.920
remix. If somebody just remade Metal
your Solid or Ockerne of Time for me,

622
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:13.320
that would be a huge deal.
But imagine if they just blew it

623
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:16.280
out to three games that each one
of those is like longer than the initial

624
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:20.639
game, and they go so much
more on a is it macro level?

625
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.639
Is that what I'm trying to say? You know, like it really like

626
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.639
digs deeper into every element of it
and micro yeah, and it just makes

627
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:30.920
it both it's so much more fleshed
out, and add somebody who makes it

628
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:34.079
so much more modern. This does
not feel This is not an HD upgrade

629
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.920
or a graphical remake of a PS
one game. This is a modern ass

630
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:43.440
JRPG that feels great. It appeals
to people like me who traditionally have not

631
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:49.719
been into the series or the genre. I think it's really really tremendously well

632
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.159
done, and I'm going to keep
going with it. I am expecting to

633
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:58.119
not know what the fuck is going
on at the ending, but I've made

634
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.480
peace of that ahead of time.
I actually do like the story leading up

635
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:02.079
to it. It's interesting, I
like the characters, the writing's funny,

636
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:06.679
the side stuff is really great.
But I do expect a bunch of stuff

637
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.039
that will probably be very important and
crazy to fans of the series. But

638
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:10.519
I'm just gonna be like, I
don't know what the fuck happened, but

639
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:15.519
that game was fun, so yeah, I don't. I mean, I

640
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.320
think of US three historically, I've
been the one that's most into that genre,

641
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.760
and I liked remake a lot,
but I didn't have the reference for

642
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:28.599
Final Fantasy seven. I never played
any Final Fantasy to completion, but I

643
00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:32.119
loved remake of what I played because
I thought the combat was great, the

644
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.519
pacing was good. Yeah, it
was more linear. It was kind of

645
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:39.480
gated open world at certain points,
but I love how it felt like a

646
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:44.840
completely different action game when you switched
from Cloud to Tifa, for instance.

647
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:52.159
Yes, and I went to start
this one, and I just could not

648
00:43:52.199 --> 00:44:00.840
bring myself to do two parallel big
open world JRPGs because I'm I turned around

649
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:04.480
on Infinite Wealth last episode, and
I don't need to say much, just

650
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.920
a quick tangent to talk more about
Infinite Wealth before talk more about Rebirth.

651
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:14.559
But I'm loving Infinite Wealth. It's
it's funny. It is reminding me pacing

652
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:20.480
wise oddly enough of like spider Man, Marvel spider Man in the center.

653
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.320
It's this open world, but there
are so many random little mini games and

654
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:25.599
side activities, and I know,
like Yakuza has always done this, but

655
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:30.639
I think Infinite Wealth does it so
well. I don't think the first few

656
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:31.760
hours are paced all that well.
But once you get into like okay,

657
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:37.320
you can do a Dundoku island,
and then you can do the labyrinth,

658
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:39.639
and then you can do all these
like delivery side missions. You can just

659
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:44.000
every certain characters you meet on that
social where you can like befriend them on

660
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.239
the social media app have different little
side missions unlocking new jobs that are just

661
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:51.960
fucking ridiculous, where you end up
like just wielding a surfboard as a scuba

662
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.440
diver. This character who was a
Cabby is now all of a sudden a

663
00:44:54.480 --> 00:45:00.480
pyro dancer. It's just it's also
I think A figured out why I truly

664
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.000
love Infinite Wealth, and I wish
they got to it sooner, but they

665
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.559
I'm fully into it and how it
is like I think on the spectrum of

666
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.039
games that like let's say Naughty Dog, Last of Us Part two, that

667
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:14.639
feel like they really don't want to
be a video game. They would rather

668
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.599
be just press these team, I
think Yakuza or like a Dragon, Infinite

669
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:22.719
Wealth is the opposite end, where
it is like reveling in the fact that

670
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:25.960
it's a video game and it's embracing
it, and there are certain characters that

671
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:29.440
are like, I don't have time
for this. What am I a video

672
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:31.199
game? NPC? And then they're
like, oh, man, in a

673
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:34.440
video game, this is how this
next mission would happen. And then of

674
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.559
course that's exactly how it happens.
It's just like it gets so much more

675
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:43.800
joyful and I love what they're doing. I mean, I'm still chapter nine.

676
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:45.239
I want to say Memory Serves.
I kind of have lost track of

677
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:49.800
what chapter it is. But like
the way they start to split things and

678
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:54.599
it becomes two games in a way
is that just like when I was starting

679
00:45:54.639 --> 00:46:00.639
to lose steam in terms of energy
to keep playing, that happened, and

680
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.000
now I'm just rejuvenated all over again. It's it's great. I love it.

681
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.119
That that actually kind of ties into
where I'm at with Rebirth is because

682
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:08.119
I had the same thing where I
was like, I think I'm like forty

683
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:10.880
hours into Infant Wealth and it's like, fuck, I don't know if I

684
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:14.320
want to start this other big game
in the middle of Infinite Wells because I'm

685
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.119
still loving that, but I was
just a little past the part where you

686
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:20.400
go back to Japan with Krryu,
and that kind of felt like a good

687
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.719
break point where it's like, you
know what, I love this game.

688
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:23.960
I'm going to make a point to
go back to it, but let me

689
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.679
at least dip my toe in Rebirth
and see if I like it. So

690
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.480
my plan is I have just been
trucking through Rebirth, but I do want

691
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:32.280
to go back to Infinite Wealth afterwards. Man, I like a lot,

692
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:36.119
but yeah, but also real quick
yeah yeah. So also, like the

693
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.119
open world stuff is like it's really
substantial. It is big, and all

694
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:43.679
the stuff you're doing it doesn't feel
like just Matt barf boring stuff like everything

695
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:46.880
is. It leads to things like
getting new Titan summons and combat challenges and

696
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:53.360
stuff like that. The chocobos are
adorable. That's the minimum that we expect

697
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:57.880
from chocobus. What else There's always
been adorable these and the sound I make

698
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.960
and everything. There's these little baby
like you'll see it be chocobo in the

699
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:05.519
wild, Like you'll be running around
you'll see they're just patting Hey, quiet

700
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:12.119
qua que and they're like they want
to show you a chocobo stop. It's

701
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:13.960
like a bus stop, but come
check it out. And It's like,

702
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.760
you don't need these baby chokobos to
show you, like you're gonna find him

703
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.000
anyway. But I always humor them. I'm like, all right, buddy,

704
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:21.800
show me where your chocobo stop is. And it shows you and it's

705
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.440
not active until like the sign,
the bus stop sign basically you pull it

706
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:28.360
up, and as you're pulling it
up by holding a triangle, the baby

707
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.440
chokeo was like, yes, yes, he's just so fucking jazzed about it.

708
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.599
But then if you let go a
triangle and it falls, he's just

709
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:37.800
like, oh man, this baby
chocobo seems so bummed out. I don't

710
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.559
know. That's been fantastic. You
get a buggy later on in the desert.

711
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:44.679
I assume you get an airship at
some point, because I think you

712
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.920
did in the original. But yeah, it's these open worlds are pretty damn

713
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.480
large, and also the game is
just gorgeous, the variety in the just

714
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:57.800
kind of vistas and everything versus just
like the blue Blap Midguard at night stuff

715
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:00.840
in the last one. He said, so much better. So again,

716
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.039
I don't I know the broad strokes
of the first or the original game.

717
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.719
Golden Saucer is like a casino town, right, It's like a casino amusement

718
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:13.519
park's ferris wheel, the choke boat
racing, there's like motorcycle racing, queens

719
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:16.639
blood tournaments. Yeah, all sorts
of just like games and things like that.

720
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:21.199
There's like a three D fighter thing
where you're controlling like the old polygonal

721
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.599
versions of like the Final Fantasy characters
and it's like a punch out type thing.

722
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:28.599
There. There's a whole stretches of
this game where it's like a lot,

723
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:31.639
lot lot of mini games, but
I think they're all really really good.

724
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:35.559
There's a full on like Rocket League
thing where it's like it's like Hungry

725
00:48:35.639 --> 00:48:38.599
Hungry Hippos Rocket League where you're playing
as a dog knocking balls into a goal.

726
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:43.000
There's one where it's like a carnival
like gun challenge thing, like a

727
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.440
target gallery thing, and you can
turn on the motion aiming, which is

728
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.599
really fun. I like, I
did not leave any of these many games

729
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:51.440
until I got like the top rank
in each one. There's piano playing,

730
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:54.079
there's it's just unique stuff. Like
we played a million open world games now

731
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.679
that have a million different like Okay, here's their darts game, here's this

732
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:00.920
game or whatever. This is very
very unique, all the different stuff it

733
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:02.920
has you doing, and I really
think it hits way like I don't think

734
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.519
it misses much. Most all of
the minigames are very fleshed out. It's

735
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:09.239
exciting. I want to play it. I'm eager. It's great. It's

736
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.800
great. I really I love it
a lot more than I expected. I

737
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:16.800
think I think I will finish infinite
wealth. And part of me wants to

738
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:20.280
go back and replay remake. I
know that's not necessary. I could just

739
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.239
watch like a YouTube recap, but
I liked remake. I just got sidetracked.

740
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:27.960
I got all the way to the
end. And I just fell off

741
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.000
like three hours early. I never
can make them the idea that you were

742
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:34.719
like forty hours in it's pretty good. I think I'm gonna keep going and

743
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:39.159
it's like forty hours in. Yeah, I know, and I more hours?

744
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:43.039
Is it? I'm guessing sixty to
eighty is my guest. Yeah,

745
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:46.679
And for the for the fairness for
that fan base, that is what they

746
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:51.679
want, and that probably is a
good time of play. But for me,

747
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:53.760
that's an exceptional amount of time that
I would only play if I'm like,

748
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:58.920
this game is the best. I'm
obsessed. I cannot put it down.

749
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:00.880
It was a good time for three
day weekend where I didn't have any

750
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:04.239
plans because then it's like, holy
shit, I'm just going to sit here

751
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.119
and just play this game with some
breaks for other games, which I think

752
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:12.360
we'll probably talk. Yeah, I
think so. I'm asking. I've been

753
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.079
putting off this game for a long
flight I have coming up next week.

754
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:24.440
But both of you have come out
swinging about Bilatro on Switch. You're doing

755
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.599
switch versus switch versions. Great?
Is that what you're doing? Mary.

756
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.400
I'm playing it on PC and I'm
loving it. I might play it on

757
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:36.719
Steam and Steam Deck. Yeah,
it's total Steam deck game. This is

758
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:40.000
a this is a portable game.
This is a play it on your PC

759
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:45.360
game, and I can explain why
I play. You can play it anywhere.

760
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:50.519
This is a card game that is
very similar to standard poker rules,

761
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.119
but it's like poker on crack.
It keeps changing the cards and letting you

762
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:59.920
level them up, and every card
has a value just like regular poker.

763
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:01.679
Think like you know, the two
is worth two, the four is worth

764
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:07.519
four, the ace is worth I
think the most, right, because it's

765
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.760
the highest. And every time you
make a hand, let's say you make

766
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:16.320
a three of a kind, not
only are the cards added up in value,

767
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:20.719
but because you've made three of a
kind, that's worth I'm just going

768
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:23.519
to say a twenty times multiplayer.
It's probably not exactly right, but let's

769
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:29.119
say it's a twenty time multiplier,
and so it's giving you the value of

770
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:32.760
the cards plus the multiplier, plus
any cards that you've like happened to get

771
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:37.639
that are just bonuses or extras,
and it kind of like juices up your

772
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.559
total to this number. Now,
when you're playing this game, you have

773
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.199
to be able to hit a certain
minimum, and if you can make that

774
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:51.239
minimum, you're rewarded with a new
currency, which I think is just called

775
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:55.760
dollars. What a good currency name. And then the dollars is how you

776
00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:01.079
buy more level up cards like joke
and these will give you like really interesting

777
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:06.960
level up Uh there's so many.
And this is where the game's replayability gets

778
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.719
really addictive, because at the end
of the day, you're just playing poker,

779
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:13.599
right like, you're just like looking
for good hands, you're getting rid

780
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:15.719
of cards, you're finding new hands, and you're getting this like delicious total

781
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.840
number because baby, you actually did
get a straight flush, which is worth

782
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.280
a shit ton of points. It's
really fun, and then you get your

783
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.920
money. The cards that you're buying
is kind of what makes each run distinct

784
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:30.599
and fun. Yeah, and you'll
start like you'll get one joker that's really

785
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:32.880
good, and then you'll craft a
whole deck around that. Like, for

786
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.880
example, the first I've beaten it
three times now. The first time I

787
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:42.119
beat it, I started with a
joker that made all hearts that I play

788
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:44.599
get a multiplier and I was like, okay, great, so I'll go

789
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:46.440
for flushes. I'm gonna go for
herts mostly. Then I got a joker

790
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:50.719
that made it so hearts and diamonds
are treated as the same suit, and

791
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.360
clubs and spades are treated as the
same suit, so all right cards that

792
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:57.599
all black cards are the same.
Then I kept leveling up the value because

793
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:00.280
you level up each hand, so
like a flush, a pair is straight,

794
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:02.199
you can make each one of those
individuals. So like I kept picking

795
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:07.239
the card, the planet card that
would make the flush super duper valuable.

796
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.400
Then I was doing these tarot cards
where you can delete cards from your deck,

797
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:14.320
and I start deleting all the clubs
and spades, so all of a

798
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:17.159
sudden, it's all fucking reds,
They're all flushes, and I'm getting super

799
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:21.480
duper multipliers and everything. Every hand
is gonna be like hundreds of thousands of

800
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:25.000
chips, Mary and anyone listening.
Here's a tip I learned literally a couple

801
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:30.119
hours ago from watching Bonk play and
her mentioning it. You can drag so

802
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:34.159
it scores the jokers from left to
right, and a lot of them will

803
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.480
say like, okay, this one's
going to give you plus four molt if

804
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.519
this you know, plus four molt
for each charge, or this one's plus

805
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:45.599
three molt for each whatever. But
then there's ones that say times something molt,

806
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.800
and I didn't realize the difference there, but it's critical because let's say

807
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:53.599
you have three cards that are plus
molt at the beginning, so that's making

808
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:58.679
it okay the multiplayers times four,
then it's times six, then it's times

809
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:00.719
eight. But then if you put
the times one on the end on the

810
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:06.519
far right, it'll multiply the ones
you add it up, so you're adding

811
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:09.519
up the multiplier and then multiplying it, which will make it so much more

812
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:13.119
valuable. So you can get this
point. I was watching Bonk. She

813
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:16.119
was doing individual hands that were like
two million plus, which is insane crazy.

814
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:21.639
Yeah, it's like war frame territory. I want to I definitely want

815
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:23.840
to play this. It's super addictive, but it's also like really simple to

816
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:28.840
play. You could play this with
any person who understands the basics of poker,

817
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:30.639
and they will pick it up and
say like, oh, this is

818
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:34.800
really nice. It's also it's just
a little tweaked of poker. So you

819
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:37.159
don't get a hand of five cards. You get a hand of eight cards

820
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:43.199
and that's the minimum. Because you
can actually get bonuses that add cards to

821
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.840
your deck less, you can get
less troo you can, you can get

822
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:50.519
hurt, but generally I think it's
eight. I'm pretty sure that sounds about

823
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:52.880
right. Yeah, I think that's
right. And so you're making the best

824
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:58.559
hands you can out of eight cards, and you're constantly like getting rid of

825
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:01.960
cards, adding to your dead and
then utilizing the knowledge of your multiplayers.

826
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:06.760
And some of the jokers or these
multiplayers are really fascinating. I got one

827
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:12.440
dan that was you get a one
point two multiplier every time you don't use

828
00:55:12.519 --> 00:55:16.639
the most used uh oh wow,
your like favorite, your most used hand.

829
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:22.840
And so I was always doing flush
because it's easy to get uh,

830
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:25.239
you can usually get a flush uh, And so I was just constantly pushing

831
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:30.039
myself to get something else. But
the multiplier was like combining over time,

832
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:35.239
and it was really valuable to just
not do flush even though it's my favorite

833
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:38.000
hand. And it was a really
fun push to get me to play poker

834
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.719
in a different way and and think
about the cards differently. Well. Yeah,

835
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:45.840
and for anyone who's intimidated by like
if you don't know poker, yeah,

836
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:47.639
like you don't actually need to know
poker, You just kind of like

837
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:51.119
you kind of just need to know
the hands, like you need know,

838
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:53.000
pair three of a kind, you
know, because you're not actually playing against

839
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.719
anyone, you're just kind of like
competing against yourself and getting a score.

840
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:59.239
And yeah, it explained it.
It's pretty straightforwards, like okay, two

841
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:01.559
pairs three of so like you don't
even really need to know poker, but

842
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:04.840
if you do know poker, it's
fun because you can make fucked up hands

843
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.440
that don't exist. Like at a
certain point, you can get like five

844
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:09.760
of a kind, which doesn't happen
because there's four of each, you know,

845
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:13.639
but you can buy cards and add
them to your deck. So I

846
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:16.719
bought multiple aces, and so I
just kept getting four aces because I'd so

847
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:20.559
many goddamn aces in the deck.
It was easy for me to get four

848
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:22.280
aces, which is very satisfying when
you can get four of a kind.

849
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.440
Or you can get a tarot card
that's like, hey, pick two cards

850
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:30.639
from your current hand and you can
upgrade them by one and so like,

851
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:32.000
if I have kings, if I
have two kings in my hand, I

852
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:35.559
can play that and now they're two
aces. Now I have six aces of

853
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:37.760
my deck, yes, like,
and then I get a spectral card that

854
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:38.880
turns all of the cards in my
hand into hearts and it's like, oh

855
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:43.440
shit, now it's gonna be real
easy to get a flush that's all aces

856
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:46.679
of hearts or whatever. It's just
really fucked up hands, or it turns

857
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:52.840
a regular straight into uh what's it
called? Well, you do yes,

858
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:55.000
straight plushesshes. It's just worth so
much money, right, So, like

859
00:56:57.079 --> 00:56:59.760
it's a really nice thing to get
those. And at first I was like,

860
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:01.079
why what, I want to turn
everything into hearts and it's like,

861
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:06.760
because, dummy, you can turn
anything into like the best hand in the

862
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:09.000
game. And I again, I
also don't like think I know poker super

863
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:13.400
well, but I understand the basics. And it goes over the basics.

864
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.119
There's always a list of the hands
and in the order they are, so

865
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:19.960
you're never questioning your whether or not
a flush or a full house is more

866
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.719
valuable. It's a full house.
But the point is is like it's it's

867
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:29.039
explained to you. The fun part
is discovering when you manipulate the cards and

868
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:32.840
the multipliers what kind of score you
can get. Also, they do restrictions,

869
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:38.360
so in the are they boss fights? Yeah, there's big blind boss

870
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:43.440
fight for every anti, which is
like a level basic just playing poker,

871
00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:45.880
right, Like it's not an actual
boss fight, but like the boss fight

872
00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:52.039
might be U. Diamonds are debuffed. Uh, cards are deal to face

873
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:57.679
down. That's so crazy. That's
such a mean de buff. But then

874
00:57:57.679 --> 00:57:59.760
you can do you can do things
too, because you can sort the cards

875
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:02.800
in your by rank and by suit, so you can kind of like you

876
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:06.320
know, surmise what you've got by
kind of looking at it, like,

877
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:09.599
okay, this is between the ace
and the ten, all right, Yeah,

878
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:13.880
it's like Mike, you can do
stuff like if you want to run

879
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:17.079
like a straight focused deck, you
can get a joker that is like it'll

880
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:21.199
let you skip a card, so
you can do two, three, five,

881
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:22.960
six, seven. Then you can
get another one on top of that,

882
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.800
because you can hold five jokers by
default. You can kind of change

883
00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:29.280
that with other stuff. But like, let's say you get one that also

884
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:31.639
lets you do a straight with just
four cards, so then you can skip

885
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:36.199
a card and get a straight with
four cards, and then you can keep

886
00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:40.360
using the planet cards to upgrade the
value of a straight. So it's just

887
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:44.840
there's so many ways to just craft
this deck exactly the way you want,

888
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.639
and it's so fucking rewarding when it's
it's like the Ultimate numbers Go Up game

889
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:52.840
when it's like all these multiplayers like
slot machine gambling, all of your like

890
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:59.519
addiction levers. It's very addictive.
It's also there's no pressure, right,

891
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:01.400
you can take as long as you
want to make your decisions. The UI

892
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:06.239
is really seamless, it's colorful.
It feels really good when you make the

893
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:09.159
click and the decisions. What was
that other card? There's any like you

894
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:14.719
know card games where like this isn't
tripe, but it just has that vibe

895
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:17.800
to it where this is really well
crafted. It feels juicy. Oh,

896
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:22.400
it's juiced up, like when you
click the cards and you get the multipliers.

897
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:27.440
When you get a good hand,
fire happens in the coins and then

898
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.480
you hear like fire going off because
it's just like you have a fucking hot

899
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:34.000
hand. Makes you feel really good
when you get it. Yeah, it

900
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:37.360
sounds like Monster Train in that regard, which is one of my favorite like

901
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:42.719
deck builder games and Monster Train was
you know, the joy of that was

902
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:45.679
like, oh, I finally figured
out this faction. If I like,

903
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:49.920
I can be extremely overpowered if I
use this card in such a way that

904
00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:52.519
interacts with that one and you know
the synergies start popping off. Yeah,

905
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:57.079
it's because I've heard Monster Trains Grade. I love Slay the Spire. Like

906
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.280
those types of games are awesome,
but like there is something about the fact

907
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:02.480
that this just cuts out any of
the fluff, any pretensive story, and

908
01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:06.239
it's just like go go go another
hand, another hand, nether hand.

909
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:08.480
You're just seeing the numbers go Dewey
of the Year. Oh my god,

910
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:12.480
they are in playing game of the
Year. Absolutely. Like I'm sit there

911
01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:15.719
doing eating breakfast in the morning and
I've got my switch propped up and I'm

912
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:19.079
doing it like touch screen like video
poker style. Like I'm the person who

913
01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:22.079
see it like Circus Circus at four
in the morning at the video poker machine

914
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:23.400
that's been up all night, and
it's like I'm just like, keep going,

915
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:28.679
keep going. Dad. When we
were calling into this call to do

916
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:34.719
this recording, I had Balatro in
the background and so like while we were

917
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:36.920
talking and like setting up, i
was like, uh huh uh huh uhuh,

918
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:40.880
And I'm like, literally, I'm
playing poker while we're doing this thing.

919
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:45.480
It just reminds you of like,
uh, the egg Clicker. You're

920
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:50.039
a rockstar and I'm just like not
fully present. I'm still playing Blatro at

921
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:52.079
any time. Yeah, I'm getting
on the treadmill. I take my joy

922
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:55.079
cons off, my switch, I
put the wrist traps on, and I'm

923
01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:59.360
like on the treadmill with a joy
gun in each hand, just looking at

924
01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:05.559
the screens like yeah, okay,
I mean it is addictive, and it

925
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:10.519
poker is addictive, right, Like
the idea of getting a good hand feels

926
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:15.239
great. And when you're able to
get a really incredible hand in poker,

927
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:21.599
there's something inside of you that gets
really excited. This game gives you that

928
01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:25.519
vibe, and you will get good
hands because the way the game is designed,

929
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:30.079
it's designed to get you the hands
that you wish you could get when

930
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:34.199
you regularly play poker with your buds
or like online, and then you just

931
01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:39.119
get all this like really fun kind
of juicy money that comes out of the

932
01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:43.079
whole game because it makes you feel
really good anytime you get a good a

933
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:47.440
good hand. It's very well designed
to make it addictive and fun and enjoyable.

934
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:52.760
Something in the best way gets really
excited when I get a good hand.

935
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.599
Uh huh, oh my god.
Oh you dirty dog, Dan,

936
01:01:55.679 --> 01:02:00.280
Sorry, a dirty dog. I
know we're raving about this and all these

937
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:04.440
things, but I want to play. There's so much more off on purpose

938
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:07.800
because I have that several flights coming
up in March. Yeah, it's gonna

939
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:09.679
be perfect for that. And like
each fucking card you can get, like

940
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:13.840
it's like an enhancement, a seal, and there's like a type or addition

941
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.239
or something, so like you can
every card could be a boil card where

942
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:19.760
it's like each one of those,
you know, it adds fifty to each

943
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:21.840
hand that you play with, or
it could have a seal where it's like

944
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:23.360
it's got a purple seal on it, like a wax seal. And anytime

945
01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:28.719
you discard this you get a Tarot
card. There's one work glass ones and

946
01:02:28.719 --> 01:02:31.519
they're valuable, but it has a
one and fourth chance of breaking when you

947
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:36.400
play it, which is so crul
And then they want to give this don't

948
01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:37.679
break? Yeah, yeah, So
do I want to give a glass card?

949
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:39.559
If I get a Tarot card?
That's like make a card a glass

950
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:43.119
card. It's like do I want
to give this my Ace of Spades which

951
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.440
is worth a lot or it might
break? Or do I give it to

952
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:47.440
a two? And it's fine if
it breaks. Yeah, the holographic cards,

953
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:52.159
spoil cards, yeah exactly. Yeah, gold cards, they're worth money

954
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:54.280
when you keep them in your hand. I had an Ace of Spades that

955
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:58.280
was gold, right, but you
want to play it, but it can

956
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:01.079
keep it in your hand. It
gives you cash money, so I wasn't

957
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:07.079
playing it so I could get the
cash prize. It's it's very well made.

958
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:12.480
They knew what they were doing when
they cooked this one up. This

959
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:15.800
is gonna be one I think people
talk about. This is a very very

960
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:19.639
interesting game. You know. Also, I think my dad would like this

961
01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:22.000
game. I don't know why that's
important, but I just think this is

962
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:24.599
like a dad's game too. It's
like if my dad tried it, I

963
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:28.159
bet he would, but I guarantee
if showed him. You can't do five

964
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:30.280
a kind. That's great that you
can't just get rid of a card.

965
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:35.039
You can't just can't make a flash
out of heart sand diamonds like I forget.

966
01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:38.840
There's four suits, always has been, always will be. I'll be

967
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:45.719
dead in the ground before I recognize
five of a cond. This isn't it's

968
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:47.920
not poker. I can't destroy a
card. I'll call the cops on you.

969
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:51.719
You can call it poker, but
it's still a cow. Yeah,

970
01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:54.519
I want to play this looking forward
to it. It's it's it's fucking crazy

971
01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:59.239
that it's like six weeks, seven
weeks into the year, and I feel

972
01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:02.679
like you could make a top ten
list, Like there are ten games out

973
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:05.280
you can make a top ten list. Well, okay, okay, ones

974
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:09.320
that would be like a viable great
year. Look at already you got Prince

975
01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:14.559
of Persia, Infinite Wealth, Final
Fantasy, bilatro Hell Divers, which we'll

976
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:16.639
get to. God, I feel
like there are already a couple others that

977
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:20.360
Tech and eight. I mean,
it's a fucking crazy year already. It's

978
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:24.519
like mid to late February right now. Sorry, it's just funny that you

979
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:28.840
got to like six or like there
there are a few others. No,

980
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:31.719
I'll agree, they've been some good
games, and I know, I think

981
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:35.840
for all intense purposes, looking at
the future of the year right now,

982
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:41.159
it looks like it might be a
slower year all told, compared to recent

983
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:44.199
ones. But yeah, I'm glad
that like the good games coming out are

984
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:46.039
not you know, easing up on
the throttle. Well, I mean,

985
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:49.559
I could use some downtime because there's
a lot of shit I still need to

986
01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:56.239
play that's already come out. But
yeah, Hell divers to two server problems

987
01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:59.880
aside whatever you know, like Arrowheads
working to address those. The Swedish studio

988
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.480
very significant problems. Me and Bank
were trying to play around earlier and just

989
01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:06.440
an hour is sitting at the screen
and there are people that just stay in

990
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:09.960
the game overnight when they're not playing
so they don't have to deal with that,

991
01:05:10.519 --> 01:05:14.119
which is annoying. But man,
such a good co op game,

992
01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:20.199
extraction shooter, session based multiplayer.
They're doing so many things great. It's

993
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:24.480
it's also funny, Like are we
getting Is this the year where games figured

994
01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:28.440
out how to be funny? They've
been I mean between like hit them,

995
01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:31.360
yeah, but I mean like this
year when you like talking about Attle,

996
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:33.960
Fantasy, Infinite Wealth and this are
all like, oh, these are all

997
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:39.639
intentionally funny games. Yeah, you
were talking about Rebirth. I think games

998
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:44.000
in general are getting better at comedy
because you know, writers are actually understanding

999
01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:47.280
how not to be just like referencing
memes every five seconds and actually being funny

1000
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.400
in and of their own rights.
But uh yeah, Hell Diverge is very

1001
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:55.679
funny. Yeah, I mean just
the dive into Prone is very much this

1002
01:05:55.840 --> 01:06:01.559
like three Stooges type, like wow
or whatever they do just a salute button

1003
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:06.639
is very funny. Yeah, all
the like interstitial stuff, the flavor text

1004
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:10.440
and everything is very good. It's
a good social game, which I usually

1005
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:14.719
don't seek out these days. I
don't tend to use games for socializing,

1006
01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:16.599
but this is great for it once
you're in with your friends. But it's

1007
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:24.920
it encourages communication. It's still it
can snap in one second from just a

1008
01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:28.880
leisurely all right, that objective was
easy and to oh my god, all

1009
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:30.440
of a sudden, shit has just
hit the fan and you all have to

1010
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:34.719
kind of snap into serious mode for
like two minutes while two people go prone

1011
01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:38.239
in front with machine guns and the
other two like have the explosives out for

1012
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:41.199
the automatons. It's a million minds
out, hey, watch out for those

1013
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:44.480
Sorry about that coordinating where you put
minefields, who's gonna call in the airstrike?

1014
01:06:44.519 --> 01:06:47.440
How you want to paste them out? It's it nails that balance,

1015
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:54.320
or rather, it runs the entire
gamut between very funny dumb social game Breezy.

1016
01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:58.519
You gain some XP for your next
before your next mission too. Oh

1017
01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:02.679
shit, legitimately demanding, challenging,
good co op game. There's a lot

1018
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:04.320
more to it than, like,
you know, I've done a few like

1019
01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:08.679
co op Fortnite sessions and stuff,
and it's like that's just purely social You're

1020
01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:11.199
just running around, who gives a
shit shooting stuff. This one is,

1021
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:13.119
like you said, the perfect mix
of like, no, you're playing a

1022
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:15.599
relast game, but also you have
time to like kind of catch up with

1023
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:18.519
your friends. I think my two
favorite things in like every match are,

1024
01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:20.360
you know, Mary, you were
talking about this last week, the moment

1025
01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:24.920
when the extraction is happening and it's
just like fuck, you're just shooting and

1026
01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:29.000
trying to survive. That's my favorite. And then also when you approach like

1027
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:31.440
a base of sorts that you have
to like go in and like you know,

1028
01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:34.280
rescue civilians or something, but you
just know there's a ton of bullshit

1029
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:38.599
in there, like enemies and stuff, and so everyone's like all right,

1030
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:42.840
everyone just throw everything you got,
and it's just orbital strikes and cluster bombs

1031
01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:45.960
and mines and just fucking every gatling
guns, mortar turrets and everything, and

1032
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:49.400
you just see every like the explosions
are incredible. The ones where you launched

1033
01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:55.239
the ICBM and you see it explode
in the fucking huge shockwave. Look's amazing.

1034
01:07:55.559 --> 01:07:59.920
Yeah, they've done this is not
like random. This is good design

1035
01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:04.440
when you have built something so that
you have these epic showdowns with monsters that

1036
01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:08.239
are coming at you from different directions. Like if you ever recognized, like

1037
01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:11.880
right as you're about to finish some
task, whatever task they give you,

1038
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:16.119
they'll have an additional wave of monsters
typically come from behind you, right when

1039
01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:20.000
you're at the finish line. Yeah, it's really well made where they're thinking

1040
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:25.880
about where to spawn the enemies to
ensure that you're always checking your six and

1041
01:08:25.920 --> 01:08:29.399
that if you're alone or you don't
have buds with you checking your back,

1042
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:33.960
you're in serious danger of going down. It's very enjoyable to be maybe the

1043
01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:39.000
last person standing and be able to
revive your team and take advantage, but

1044
01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:42.720
they've made it difficult enough that if
you're not cooperating, you're not gonna make

1045
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:47.239
it. Yeah, it's got like
the maybe not the best elements of Left

1046
01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:50.399
for Dead, but maybe the best
elements of Left for Dead in that sense.

1047
01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:53.800
Or Yeah, if you go off
by yourself, you can get fucked

1048
01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:57.119
easily but there is I like it
more than Left for Dead. I you

1049
01:08:57.159 --> 01:08:59.680
know, I respect Left Forardad.
It's a good game, but like maybe

1050
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:01.640
it's just the setting. I think
the idea of this, like you know,

1051
01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:05.960
yeah sarcastic, you know, Barohoven, Starship Gropers, I setting with

1052
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:10.000
sci fi and bombs and everything,
I definitely like more than the zombie stuff.

1053
01:09:10.159 --> 01:09:13.239
Yeah, I person there are very
few games I like more than Left

1054
01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:15.640
four Dead, so I would go
that far. But I think it's the

1055
01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:20.720
same secret sauce for sure. But
yeah, you're Aside from like a few

1056
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:27.319
missions I've played, this game wants
you to be using your stratagems and when

1057
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:31.840
if you can call in a fucking
orbital rocket or bomb or in napalm or

1058
01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:36.279
rein like calling a machine gun or
some like anti tank mission like, they

1059
01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:41.920
want you to be using these constantly. There are certain missions where you really

1060
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.039
do need to parse them out because
that cool down is way too fucking long

1061
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:48.119
for how difficult this mission is.
A minute and a half is too long

1062
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:53.880
for you to wait for your next
anti tank missile launch or whatever. But

1063
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:56.640
by and large, this they really
do, like you said, you see

1064
01:09:56.640 --> 01:09:59.600
a base, fuck it, I
have the strategem we've we've got, we

1065
01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:01.319
can de with that cool down on
the way to the next objective, just

1066
01:10:01.680 --> 01:10:06.960
blow shit up. And it's so
satisfying. But also, like Mary said,

1067
01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:13.279
it's like, even in its most
social, laid back moments, you're

1068
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:17.840
still sort of on edge because a
wave could come and you're thinking about the

1069
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:23.000
next objective that you've got to trek
across half the map for. It's just

1070
01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:29.239
a really it's so hard to pace
multiplayer games. It's I mean, single

1071
01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:30.760
player you have so much more control, but when you have four people in

1072
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:36.520
the same mission and so much of
the mission is seemingly random or maybe not

1073
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:40.279
random, but like in the sense
that the Left for Dead director was kind

1074
01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:45.560
of pulling strings, it's so much
harder to make missions like that consistently interesting.

1075
01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:49.319
And it's so good at that.
I don't think there's been There are

1076
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:53.359
certain missions that felt more like exp
farming, but you kind of do need

1077
01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:58.359
those breathers and just like the equivalent
of like comedic relief in a movie.

1078
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:01.359
But man, I like it a
lot. But again, that's not to

1079
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:05.039
ignore the fact that Arrowheads still has
a long ways to go to make getting

1080
01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:10.760
into this game an easy thing they'll
get there. I don't think anyone expected

1081
01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:13.399
it to be the like unbelievable hit
it was. No, I don't think

1082
01:11:13.439 --> 01:11:17.760
so. It's funny when I first
loaded in I sometimes I still do miss

1083
01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:24.000
the overhead twin stick shooter of elements
of the first game. There's absolutely no

1084
01:11:24.119 --> 01:11:28.239
way that this game would be as
popular if it wasn't a third over the

1085
01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:32.279
shoulder third person like. So I'm
willing to bet way fewer people would be

1086
01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:35.600
playing it and they wouldn't have these
problems. But good for them, but

1087
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:40.640
they deserve it with the game designs, just like, you know, get

1088
01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:43.279
that stability there, and then all
of a sudden, it's like, like

1089
01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:45.880
you said, it's going to come
up in our conversations in December. It's

1090
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:49.319
like the the GTA two to GTA
three leap, where it's like, well,

1091
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:53.279
it's you know, on paper,
it's kind of the same stuff you're

1092
01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:56.720
doing, but that perspective shift makes
it so much more palatable like a mainstream

1093
01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:00.760
audience. And yeah, I would
say a good comparison is it's supersonic acrobatic

1094
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:05.800
rocket powered battle cars to rocket Oh, Like they basically took a really good

1095
01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:13.439
formula and said how do we fucking
turn it up to eleven? And they

1096
01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:15.840
did. They fixed a lot of
the things and the first game that would

1097
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:20.119
take people maybe just turn them off
or make them not interested. They also

1098
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:27.199
upgraded it from a you know,
like looking down game to looking down game

1099
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:32.920
to a first my favorite looking down
game. Do you know what I mean?

1100
01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:39.880
Great looking down? Good looking down? Yeah, linked to the past,

1101
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:45.520
sim cities, cities up there and
looking down. Fucking Lemmings was great

1102
01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:51.960
too. Or is that Lemmings is
a looking side oh ship, I'm embarrasseds

1103
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:58.319
is looking sideways? Fucking x com
to Civilization. Good looking down game,

1104
01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:04.680
great looking down game, good examples
of my really good point. Bashi's are

1105
01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:09.600
really good looking down and kind of
to the side game. The different genre

1106
01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:12.800
to the Breach. I don't know, kind of it's like a genre mashup.

1107
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:15.880
I'd say of looking down Taxtics to
go down to the side game.

1108
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:20.399
Yeah, yeah, it's a lot
of angle. Arkham Asylum kind of could

1109
01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:24.199
be a looking down game if you
move the camera the right way. A

1110
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:30.920
lot of games can be yeah yeah, yeah yeah. VR porn can be

1111
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:33.359
a looking down game. I mean, v R anything. I guess you

1112
01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:35.880
was looking down at your feet.
Yeah, no, just really vur porn.

1113
01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:43.680
So that's Mike. Sorry you were
saying, Mary back to video game

1114
01:13:43.720 --> 01:13:49.760
expert Mary kish you made fun of
yourself before we jumped in on it.

1115
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:54.680
I knew it was dumb. I'm
the first person to recognize that I'm an

1116
01:13:54.720 --> 01:14:00.720
idiot. Is a great looking down
refuses to move away from this bit.

1117
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:03.520
Yeah, I'm trying to boggle.
Boggle is a good looking down. I

1118
01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:06.279
tried to help you. Look down
is a good looking down. Puzzles,

1119
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:15.760
Digital dig Othello and Mancala and Backgammon
Boker. Boker is a good looking if

1120
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:18.600
you're just if you're just playing checker, okay with your family and you stand

1121
01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:26.479
up above the board and kind of
just do one of these different genres.

1122
01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:30.680
You're right, You're right. That
was that was unfair. I'm sorry they

1123
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:45.279
upgraded it. I missed the looking
down Zelda era. Yeah, well they

1124
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:48.239
did a throwback. Between Worlds is
a looking down throwback. You look sideway

1125
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.640
as a decent amount in that game, though, a little bit. Yeah,

1126
01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:55.000
it was bullshit. It's not a
pure looking down. Yeah. Someone

1127
01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:59.560
someone just literally popped up on my
Steam friends saying they're playing Hell Divers too.

1128
01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:03.079
And I'm willing to bet no,
they're not someone on your steam list,

1129
01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:08.560
someone on my like it just my
I had a notification that says x

1130
01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:11.079
so and so is playing hell Evers
too, and I'm willing to bet they're

1131
01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:14.439
not going to a server thing.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense anyway,

1132
01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:17.560
Sorry, do you remember what you
were saying? No, Dan,

1133
01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:21.359
I heard you're playing Go Meca Ball. Tell me about I did. I

1134
01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:29.159
I was gonna play a bit before
the next podcast, and I'm a man

1135
01:15:29.199 --> 01:15:30.840
of my word, and I did. I streamed a little bit of Go

1136
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:34.359
Mecha Ball. I will say,
true to what you said, it immediately

1137
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:38.720
feels good. It is a game
that takes no time at all to get

1138
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:41.319
into it. It's like, oh, that's what I'm doing. Okate drops

1139
01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:44.279
me in. All that feels good. Okay, holding the trigger and then

1140
01:15:44.279 --> 01:15:45.800
I turned into a ball. I
can more fall immediately. That's great.

1141
01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:48.720
There's things I think I gotta get
used to because I only played, like

1142
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:51.359
i'd say, I played like an
hour or so. I gotta get used

1143
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:55.600
to kind of that, like do
maternal thing of like getting Ammo by like

1144
01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:59.640
doing this specific attack, like doing
the charge into characters to get Ammo.

1145
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:01.119
Cause a lot of times I'll go
through all my stuff and I forget that

1146
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:05.640
I can get more AMMO by by
charging. I do want to play it

1147
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:09.119
as a Steam deck game. I
think that would be a really good plain

1148
01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:11.520
Steam deck game. I bet it
would run great on that. I'm trying

1149
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:14.439
it yet, but like I cannot
imagine it not running well on the Steam

1150
01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:17.720
deck. I guess the thing I
am waiting on is seeing kind of like

1151
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:21.680
that loop the Rogue Light elements,
and seeing like I did see the thing

1152
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:24.640
where it's like I'm starting to unlocked
different, like Okay, I got this

1153
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:26.800
duck gun. I got this thing. Okay, that's good. I got

1154
01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:29.680
it like a contra spread gun and
stuff. So like I want to see

1155
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:31.880
like how that loop goes and like
currency type stuff and if that kind of

1156
01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:34.640
keeps me going the way a great
Rogue Light does, because I don't think

1157
01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:40.680
i've played enough to know that yet. But everything you say, oh,

1158
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:43.239
I think just one. I think
I just did the one. Yeah.

1159
01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:45.279
Yeah, like I said, I
played like an hour, so not a

1160
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:49.880
lot. Yeah. Yeah, it's
like a bug spider I remember, just

1161
01:16:49.880 --> 01:16:53.680
a chunky thing with legs, yes, I think I yeah, yeah,

1162
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:59.319
that's her yeah, you know,
it feels fantastic. It is very It

1163
01:16:59.359 --> 01:17:02.399
has a good feel to it.
I like the bouncy the bouncing around and

1164
01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:05.800
killing stuff with your body is pretty
fun. Yeah, they like boost rams,

1165
01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:09.760
the like half pipes and stuff like. That's really fun. So yeah,

1166
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:11.800
yep, I definitely want to play
more of that for sure. Good.

1167
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:15.479
I hope you enjoy it. It's
really fun. This is actually not

1168
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:19.239
to any rogue light. When you
get the right materials and you know you're

1169
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:24.159
gonna go far, it's a good
feeling. This is kind of what happens

1170
01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:29.039
in Baleltro as well, where you're
like, oh, with this multiplier,

1171
01:17:29.520 --> 01:17:32.680
I am godlike, I am unstoppable. This does that too. With the

1172
01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:36.199
right gun and the right power up, you'll be like, come fucking get

1173
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:41.000
me, losers like I have everything
I need. I have a sniper rifle

1174
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:44.319
in one hand, I have a
shoddy in the left hand. I'm also

1175
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:47.960
a ball, Like, come get
me. I think it's great. I

1176
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:50.039
want to try. You said it's
on game pass, right, Mary,

1177
01:17:50.720 --> 01:17:55.880
Yes, it's on game Pass.
That's uh why I played it on PC

1178
01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:59.359
because I did not kiss it.
We actually had an email. I'll just

1179
01:17:59.359 --> 01:18:03.039
read it now. It's relevant that
Alexander from Norway asked, Hi, guys,

1180
01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:05.439
I was wondering, does account as
kissing it? When you buy a

1181
01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:09.840
game and you never play it because
of course you don't. You're a disaster

1182
01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:13.600
person with an eight hundred game deep
backlog, but then later it comes out

1183
01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:16.119
on game Pass and the announcement reminds
you and you think, maybe now is

1184
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:20.439
the time to play it. You
haven't played it yet? That still kissing

1185
01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:26.800
it? Yes, negligent kishing.
It's like retroactive spirit of kishing. Yeah,

1186
01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:31.720
yeah, I kissing because we've Also, it's the opposite of what I

1187
01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:34.840
was saying to you, which was
one time I wanted to buy a game,

1188
01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:42.319
or I i it was on game
Pass, and I purchased it anyway

1189
01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:46.159
because I wanted cross play in another
reason. So I was willingly acknowledging that

1190
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:49.439
I had done it, which I
think is the opposite of what this this.

1191
01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:53.399
I don't think this is kissing it. This is like you spent money

1192
01:18:53.439 --> 01:18:59.000
when you had to because it wasn't
game pass. But it's still still funny

1193
01:18:59.039 --> 01:19:01.439
that person purchased money, or sorry, they purchased money. What's wrong with

1194
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:06.199
my brain? You can buy money
damn it. They pressure the game count

1195
01:19:06.760 --> 01:19:10.960
conversion, never played it, and
then it turns out they never had to

1196
01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:15.720
spend the money. It's the same
in essence, what are we doing this?

1197
01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:17.279
What are we doing with our jobs? We could just be buying money

1198
01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:21.199
somewhere. If you go like a
flea market, you can get a good

1199
01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:29.079
deal out of money. Okay,
Mary, you also played something called Ultros.

1200
01:19:30.760 --> 01:19:33.520
Yes, Dan, this is this
is a pitch for you. Okay,

1201
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:39.760
never pitch me anything. I always
pitched. Okay, when I'm playing

1202
01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:46.119
some like strategy game that takes eighty
hours before I see the first iron Clad

1203
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:53.399
Flyer, I'll let you know.
This one is fair a metroid vania.

1204
01:19:53.880 --> 01:20:00.000
I hate those that is made.
I think it's a I think this is

1205
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:05.159
very small team or like a few
people, very small team. It looks

1206
01:20:05.159 --> 01:20:14.840
like it's on shrooms. Oh,
I just visual style shocking. It does

1207
01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:19.640
look like it's hand animated, right, you can see that the animation style

1208
01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:27.079
is it's very like a handmade and
then the upgrade system is quite fascinating.

1209
01:20:27.520 --> 01:20:31.680
So when you kill anything, depending
on what you're killing, it gives you

1210
01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:35.600
a certain I'll call it a currency
for the sake of it. But it's

1211
01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:41.840
like a certain type of upgrade,
and then when you go to safety chambers,

1212
01:20:42.840 --> 01:20:45.600
you get to choose. It'll say, oh, if you want a

1213
01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:51.479
double jump, which is obviously something
you're gonna want, it requires maybe like

1214
01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:57.439
three of the six upgrade currencies,
and maybe like some of the food that

1215
01:20:57.439 --> 01:21:00.720
you've been given gave you four of
the six upgrade And so now you're you're

1216
01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:05.880
eating the food in order to upgrade
to these very specific upgrade portions. But

1217
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:12.720
you can waste food if you're eating
it, but it's actually not leading up

1218
01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:15.000
to the upgrades you want, and
so you're like trying to eat the right

1219
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:18.199
things in order to upgrade the right
pieces of yourself. I know that sounds

1220
01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:25.680
weird. Also, everything's like weird
brain esque and mildly sexual. It's very

1221
01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:30.000
it is kind of for Micah,
it's super goofy. It's the upgrade thing

1222
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:32.359
is crazy because like you'll look at
it and it's just kind of like conveyed

1223
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:36.159
through bar graphs, kind of like
different colored bar graphs. It seems more

1224
01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:41.560
complicated than it is. At the
end of the day, you're eating food

1225
01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:45.199
that hopefully correlates to the right things
that you need. But if you're eating

1226
01:21:45.239 --> 01:21:48.239
the wrong thing, you're not gonna
upgrade. Plus you're just like wasting the

1227
01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:51.199
food, so you want to eat
the right thing to get to the right

1228
01:21:51.279 --> 01:21:56.439
upgrade, and certain animals are the
ones you're gonna need to get the good

1229
01:21:56.520 --> 01:22:00.079
upgrades, so you're like hunting for
the correct animals that you can upgrade the

1230
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:04.079
right piece of yourself. Yeah,
it has a really interesting story. It's

1231
01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:09.199
not often that you want to ever
play a metroidvania that when you get to

1232
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:12.079
the boss fight and you kill it, it takes away your powers. But

1233
01:22:12.159 --> 01:22:16.359
that's one of the hooks of this
game. So you beat your first boss

1234
01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:21.239
fight and it has you start again. It's almost like the universe recycles,

1235
01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:26.760
and so you like wake up and
you have no powers, but it's very

1236
01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:30.239
quick for you to acquire your powers
again now that you know where everything is

1237
01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:32.479
and what you need to do.
And then you get to a different area

1238
01:22:32.520 --> 01:22:35.760
of the game there's a new boss
fight, you're getting a new power,

1239
01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:39.119
and then it kind of like sucks
it all away from you again. It's

1240
01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:44.159
an interesting loop dynamic. I found
it quite fascinating and visually it's just an

1241
01:22:44.239 --> 01:22:47.079
interesting take on the genre. Metroid
vanias are often rinse and repeat. I

1242
01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:50.920
found this to be a very different
take. I will say, like,

1243
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:54.399
I don't think it's for everyone.
The fact that you lose your powers every

1244
01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:59.199
boss fight can be grating. And
the upgrade system because you have to kill

1245
01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:02.479
certain animals to be able to upgrade
certain powers, that's also could be frustrating.

1246
01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:09.119
But I think if you look at
it as an exploration game that's like

1247
01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:12.760
on a lot of mushrooms, I
think you would have a lot of fun

1248
01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:15.840
with it. It's quite appealing visually
and audibly as well. I didn't realize

1249
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:23.920
it was a el warevo the artist
who did a hotline Miami has that vibe

1250
01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:32.720
does very satch uh Nickelodeon meets Grateful
Dead meats tool album or tool music or

1251
01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:38.880
something. It's also it's very I
think you were saying, like it's goofy

1252
01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:47.560
and kind of everything. The double
jump, the grapling hook, that's good

1253
01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:57.800
and I just got killed by that
boss and my powers now it turns out

1254
01:23:58.039 --> 01:24:13.800
flash I'm a woman, and it's
pretty good. It's good. Oh man,

1255
01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:16.039
you really earned your spot this week. This is a love good bit.

1256
01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:25.039
It looks good. I are you
playing it on PlayStation PC. Again,

1257
01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:30.319
a lot of the games right now
I'm playing on PC. I like,

1258
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:32.000
it looks good as hell, it
runs great, but like on the

1259
01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:35.720
OLEAD, it is that saturated.
Look is it pops on that screen?

1260
01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:41.119
Yeah. I was worried that the
saturation would make it difficult to play,

1261
01:24:41.159 --> 01:24:44.000
and that I wouldn't. You know, when games are too saturated, it's

1262
01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:46.239
like the bullet hellness of it is
overwhelming. I did not feel that with

1263
01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:50.000
this. It is very saturated,
but they did a good job not overwhelming

1264
01:24:50.039 --> 01:24:54.960
my eyes. It's less the saturation
that kind of bothered me at the gameplay.

1265
01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:59.119
It was more the like I kind
of struggled to discern between like foreground

1266
01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:00.800
and background, Like what's an enemy, what's a platform? It's just like

1267
01:25:00.840 --> 01:25:05.079
there's so much detail everywhere that it's
kind of like is that a platform or

1268
01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:08.640
is that just something in the background. So that's something I'm sure you used

1269
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:11.359
to as you play, but gave
me an initial like, eh, weird.

1270
01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:15.600
Yeah, this was not a Metroidvania. This was a sort of a

1271
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:19.880
looking down game. Remember uncited from
two years ago. I'm cited that sounds

1272
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:27.079
very satch like you were a cyborg
who you had a countdown to when you

1273
01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:30.239
died permanently, but you were going
kind of across this Metroidvania Zelda esque world.

1274
01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:33.960
Oh right, but that was a
problem there a lot of those.

1275
01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:40.880
I love the game, but I
was thinking about that from an artistic standpoint,

1276
01:25:40.920 --> 01:25:43.760
and then you mentioned the platform problem. That was my problem with uncited

1277
01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:47.600
or just came. Yeah, but
they never but like I often could not

1278
01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:53.399
differentiate between what was an interactable object
and what was just environment, which like

1279
01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:59.640
something with resnivilfre Remake just spray paints
interactable things yellow. But yeah, no,

1280
01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:02.600
I want to Final Fantasy. It's
like major yellow, Like here's where

1281
01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:06.239
you climb on the side. So
like the people who complain about that,

1282
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:10.880
I'm like, would you rather be
put the video game pouring over every inch

1283
01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:13.720
seeing what you could press a button
on? I don't know. Yeah,

1284
01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:15.399
it's a IDEO, I'm kind of
It doesn't actually bother me. It's just

1285
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:19.439
a very video game. Yeah.
Like Infinite Well, it's just like there's

1286
01:26:19.479 --> 01:26:23.760
a glowing thing over there, go
for it. Or it's bright pink on

1287
01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:26.720
your map, go do something.
I love what you said about Infinite Wealth.

1288
01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:30.119
It's just like it knows it's the
fucking video game in that very like

1289
01:26:30.199 --> 01:26:32.039
kind of way where it's like,
yeah, we're telling a story that we're

1290
01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:35.119
proud of and everything, but also
it's a fucking video game, so like,

1291
01:26:35.159 --> 01:26:38.840
deal with it. We're gonna say
video game stuff and do video game

1292
01:26:38.920 --> 01:26:43.680
signposting and shit, yeah yeah,
do you guys play anything else? Or

1293
01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:47.840
I briefly played Mario Verus Donkey Kong. You know, I'm the biggest I

1294
01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:54.079
mean Nintendo mark on any podcast I'm
on pretty much. Uh that said,

1295
01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:59.319
I all say when something sucks,
and this doesn't suck. It's just boring.

1296
01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:02.680
It was boring before the GBA games, the puzzle platform or stuff like

1297
01:27:03.159 --> 01:27:06.159
it, like Donkey Kong Niny four
is great, but this kind of like

1298
01:27:06.479 --> 01:27:12.680
half assed lemmings merch of the minis
type GBA games, Like I never liked

1299
01:27:12.720 --> 01:27:15.840
them back then, and it turns
out I don't don't love it on Switch

1300
01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:18.680
either. They're not bad by any
means, but every time I start a

1301
01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:23.079
level, I look at it,
I get a sense of like, Okay,

1302
01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:24.760
I got to do that to go
up there, and then I go

1303
01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:26.600
over there, I got to dodge
that guy, and goes like you just

1304
01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:28.720
see what you have to do,
and I feel like it's a chore.

1305
01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:30.359
Like every second I'm playing, I'm
like, all right, okay, I'm

1306
01:27:30.359 --> 01:27:32.079
almost some of this one. Okay, fine, I'm done. I never

1307
01:27:32.079 --> 01:27:34.279
have to do that one again.
It's just it's not a good feeling while

1308
01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:39.760
you're playing a video game. I
wish I liked it. I do not.

1309
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:45.039
Yeah, I don't even I have
no intention of trying it out.

1310
01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:50.079
Unfortunately. I feel like you can
an honest assessment. Yeah, I feel

1311
01:27:50.079 --> 01:27:54.520
like more than any other game,
you could look at a screenshot of any

1312
01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:57.840
Mario versus Donkey Kong level and be
like, I get it. Yeah,

1313
01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:02.439
it's like looking at the now even
looking at the cover of like a puzzle

1314
01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:06.520
box and then the jigsaw puzzle still
fun putting it together? Yeah, yeah,

1315
01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:10.079
this is just like fun. This
is like all the peoples are already

1316
01:28:10.079 --> 01:28:13.880
aligned. You just need to literally
push the Yeah, this is painted by

1317
01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:15.920
numbers, but of a boring numbers
is a better way to put it,

1318
01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:20.079
just without the therapeutic aspect. Well, all right, that game sounds awesome.

1319
01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:23.319
Do you guys got terrible? I
don't mean to tell I know what

1320
01:28:23.359 --> 01:28:26.880
I'm negative on it. It's not
a bad game, it's just Dan,

1321
01:28:27.119 --> 01:28:30.800
you got to stop being negative about
Nintendo games. It's getting older. No,

1322
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:34.359
I know, you really just are. Now I'm beginning to suspect that

1323
01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:39.520
you don't have the integrity we thought. You're always down on Nintendo games.

1324
01:28:39.600 --> 01:28:43.399
That's my thing. I'm biased.
Got some sort of vendetta. All right,

1325
01:28:43.479 --> 01:28:46.000
you guys want to do emails?
Yeah, all right? As usual,

1326
01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:49.359
you can rune into fire Escape cast
at gmail dot com for questions,

1327
01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:55.199
comments, cerns, feedback which I
read all that. Uh I did ask

1328
01:28:55.359 --> 01:29:00.600
last episode before we get to tonight's
questions, or rather, we all brainstorm

1329
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:08.399
ideas for a hot tub based finance
advice podcast. How did we get there?

1330
01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:11.640
What were we talking about? You
were talking about you and Mary sitting

1331
01:29:11.640 --> 01:29:17.039
in the hot Yes, but we
got a bunch. I'll get through as

1332
01:29:17.039 --> 01:29:23.279
many as I can. But there
were a lot. Stock Tub my name

1333
01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:27.680
is Stocktub. That's from Ryan.
That's a good one, like elimiting to

1334
01:29:27.720 --> 01:29:30.079
just stocks. But you know,
dock tub is pretty good. It is

1335
01:29:30.159 --> 01:29:34.880
good. But then you can't talk
about like in anyway. Uh. Trevor

1336
01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:42.960
Trevor from Pennsylvania rode in a few
bubbles in the bank. Relax, it's

1337
01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:47.960
pretty good. Relaxed count stacks,
hot tub retirement machine. That's really good.

1338
01:29:50.279 --> 01:29:54.199
A lot of syllables going on,
but it's it's clever. I think

1339
01:29:54.199 --> 01:29:57.199
it's a play on hot tub time
machine. But the bank is nice.

1340
01:29:57.319 --> 01:30:00.760
I would I would remove, I
would remove in the bubble bank, bubble

1341
01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:04.399
bank, bubble bank, bubbles in
the bank or bubble bank, bubble bank,

1342
01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:08.960
bubble bank is fun to say,
welcome to the bubble bank bank.

1343
01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:12.039
Yeah, that's fun to say,
bubble bank, bubble bank. May need

1344
01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:19.720
that bubble bank bathing and bathe and
save wet and getting pruney while we talk

1345
01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:26.479
about the moon, ay goddammit,
or the hotly pool. I don't get

1346
01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:33.479
that one. Is that like a
pool fool? Yeah? Only rhyme one?

1347
01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:39.239
Yeah, a bunch of them?
You got a bunch more? Let

1348
01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:45.560
me find them banks good? How
about taking a bath? Oh okay,

1349
01:30:45.279 --> 01:30:49.279
you lose a lot of money.
Yeah, but we would honestly probably lose

1350
01:30:49.279 --> 01:30:53.319
people a lot of money, so
it's uh, it's appropriate we would,

1351
01:30:53.319 --> 01:30:56.840
but we want them to feel that
we're going to make them a lot of

1352
01:30:56.920 --> 01:30:59.840
money as they and then they losing
them, We're like, that's not our

1353
01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:05.239
we actually gave you the there was
a little line saying it's all gambling.

1354
01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:08.880
We have no idea what we're doing
and neither do you, and then legally

1355
01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:13.319
not responsible for anything. Yeah,
that was from Daniel. It was going

1356
01:31:13.359 --> 01:31:24.800
from izzyg writing the bubble PARENTHESI s
at the end bubbles financial podcast name.

1357
01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:29.479
This is okay. This is from
Fenrier, who has Roberto who has written

1358
01:31:29.479 --> 01:31:31.159
it a few times. You were
so close to greatness with your mention of

1359
01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:36.359
tub thumping by Chumbawamba. However,
I think the most appropriate pun related to

1360
01:31:36.399 --> 01:31:42.279
the same song deals with the background
vocal pissing the night away. Since I

1361
01:31:42.279 --> 01:31:45.760
can only assume the financial advice giving
would be bad and ultimately a waste of

1362
01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:50.760
money, I'd like to propose the
following title Kishing the Night Away. Fishing

1363
01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:56.720
the night Aways pretty good. It
covers partying in the hot tub while referencing

1364
01:31:56.720 --> 01:32:00.760
Mary's oncanny ability to waste money by
forgetting to check game pass. That's from

1365
01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:08.000
Fener. That's good, pretty good. Andrew wrote in saying Andrew from San

1366
01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:15.239
Antonio in Investing Circles fire stands for
financial independence retire early says you all already

1367
01:32:15.279 --> 01:32:17.199
have the fire Escape cast. Maybe
you can work this acronym into the title,

1368
01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:19.760
but I don't know how you'd spell
out what it means without making the

1369
01:32:19.800 --> 01:32:23.680
title way too long. It's usually
good at naming things, but I'm drawing

1370
01:32:23.720 --> 01:32:26.359
a blank right now. Loll.
Maybe it'll come to me a dream or

1371
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:31.520
something, so it would be what
financial independence retire early cast. I mean,

1372
01:32:32.159 --> 01:32:35.960
I love the sentiment, but yeah, it doesn't exactly roll off the

1373
01:32:36.039 --> 01:32:43.760
tongue. Oh, this one's good
from David Head your jets or Wall Street

1374
01:32:43.880 --> 01:32:48.479
Jets. Well, this is good, like that jets is good, that's

1375
01:32:48.520 --> 01:32:53.520
great. Mark Harrison had a similar
sentiment as earlier economic bubbles. It's Mark

1376
01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:57.239
from England. That's good. I
love. I love this. When you

1377
01:32:57.279 --> 01:33:01.199
ask people to like use their creative
juice, is bubble bank? You just

1378
01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:06.039
I love how you just complimented your
your own idea. It's based off of

1379
01:33:06.079 --> 01:33:14.920
that person like you tweeted, just
tweaked it just now, I don't owe

1380
01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:23.960
you money And that's bubble bank from
from Pennsylvania. Prunin and Financial Ruin making

1381
01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:28.199
it negative. No one's going to
listen to it. I want people to

1382
01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:31.880
give us their money and trust I
want to lose your money podcast. I

1383
01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:35.239
would rather like listen to a mon
like a podcast where they're in a hot

1384
01:33:35.239 --> 01:33:40.640
tub and giving terrible advice. That
would be a worse podcast. Order back

1385
01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:45.960
to dead in a Ditch your Money
podcast advice Center, the rock Bottom Podcast,

1386
01:33:46.119 --> 01:33:53.520
They're gonna marry, You'll have nothing
in your wallet and you'll want to

1387
01:33:53.600 --> 01:34:00.039
die. Let's take our first caller. This one is, Oh, that

1388
01:34:00.039 --> 01:34:03.920
would be fun. We got to
do that. This is quite a stretch,

1389
01:34:03.960 --> 01:34:09.319
and they admit, but like Jack, Jack wrote in saying this probably

1390
01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:12.680
sucks, but had to share it. For the hypothetical hot tub financial discussion

1391
01:34:12.680 --> 01:34:24.760
podcast roth Tub like wroth I RA
but also hot Tub roth Tub, There's

1392
01:34:24.760 --> 01:34:30.640
gonna be more. The subject line
is roth Tub question mark Jack, This

1393
01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:33.000
question mark is part of the podcast. I don't know you personally, but

1394
01:34:33.039 --> 01:34:38.880
you've probably got something better. I
trusted right back. Really like rock tub

1395
01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:45.319
is the name? Oh man,
we got so many. Let me a

1396
01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:49.960
few more before I get to the
Wait was that the last one? That

1397
01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:53.680
might have been the last one I
could I find? Now? Yeah,

1398
01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:57.159
that was it, Jack. You
ended on a great note. I thought

1399
01:34:57.159 --> 01:35:00.560
there was going to be more after
ropped up. Yep. Well thank you

1400
01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:03.880
everybody who wrote in, Well we'll
be sure to source some ideas from all

1401
01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:08.600
of your creative minds in the future. Very good, Oh my goodness,

1402
01:35:08.640 --> 01:35:12.840
that was very enjoyable. All right, onto the more traditional, as it

1403
01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:15.239
were. Email questions, Mary,
do you want to do this? First

1404
01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:23.279
one from Rachel? Sure? What
is all your all? Wait? What

1405
01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:29.880
is your all's? That's what it
is. There's no y'all, it's all's.

1406
01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:33.439
Yeah. I don't like y'all.
What is your all's? Social batteries

1407
01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:39.079
like mine runs out so quick.
I'd rather be at home chillin' and having

1408
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:42.960
a cat in my lap and a
dog curled up next to me. Also,

1409
01:35:43.119 --> 01:35:45.800
if there's kids there, I'm not
often going. I don't have much

1410
01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:50.319
in common with parents. Thoughts,
concerns, questions. Don't read this verbato,

1411
01:35:50.640 --> 01:35:56.840
shout out the pets, cats and
context. I got you, Duayne,

1412
01:35:57.039 --> 01:36:00.760
dog makes sense verbatim, and then
he read a B. Yeah,

1413
01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:05.800
that's why I by bolded it in
our script. She just sent in gorgeous.

1414
01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:09.880
I just read a photo of a
gorgeous pit bull named Dwayne and a

1415
01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:13.920
gorgeous like I think it's either a
ragamuffin or a main coon stray cat named

1416
01:36:13.960 --> 01:36:17.560
Taco that made itself at her home. Is that I got you? Uh

1417
01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:21.039
her saying that? Or is everything
except for the bolded which I read,

1418
01:36:21.199 --> 01:36:26.119
don't read verbatim, but shout out
the pets. I feel like we got

1419
01:36:26.159 --> 01:36:29.560
it through. So she's got some
pets there. Yeah, the photos are

1420
01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:38.000
gorgeous. Uhh, Rachel. My
social battery is pretty well charged most of

1421
01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:41.439
the time. I will say.
I say this as like a counter to

1422
01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:45.600
I think my wife and I balance
each other out really well. We've been

1423
01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:51.640
living together for going on two years
now. Amanda's definitely more an introvert,

1424
01:36:51.960 --> 01:36:57.560
and I have always considered myself an
introvert, but I think what I'm learning

1425
01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:00.880
the last few years is I am
actually an extrovert. And you know,

1426
01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:02.239
like one doesn't mean you're shy,
and the other means you're not shy.

1427
01:37:02.399 --> 01:37:08.039
Extrovert you recharge by being around people
and then you come home and then you

1428
01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:12.159
spend that energy, whereas you know, the introvert's like Amanda recharges it home

1429
01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:14.840
and then we go out and that's
where she spends it. We're kind of

1430
01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:16.279
reverse. You think it wouldn't work
well, but like we're good at like

1431
01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:25.920
encouraging the other to stay home and
relax when they might think it's like they

1432
01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:29.880
might feel guilty about it otherwise,
and then I think I'm more like,

1433
01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:31.479
no, let's get out and go
do something and then we'll, you know,

1434
01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:34.359
we'll come back. So it was
a learning curve at first, but

1435
01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:39.159
I think, you know, I
have learned that I'm definitely more the extrovert,

1436
01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:44.279
but I do love staying home with
my cats as well. Mine's weird

1437
01:37:44.319 --> 01:37:48.800
because like, until college, I
was very much introvert. Didn't go to

1438
01:37:48.800 --> 01:37:51.760
a single party, never really drank, never really you know, I'd have

1439
01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:55.119
a couple of friends i'd you know, play video games with or whatever,

1440
01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:58.800
but it's mostly staying at home watch
and wrestling, playing video games. And

1441
01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:00.960
yeah, college changed it all when
I realized that, like, oh man,

1442
01:38:01.119 --> 01:38:04.680
going out and drinking just like a
part of me comes out that I

1443
01:38:04.760 --> 01:38:10.239
wasn't familiar with before. And nowadays
it's like the social battery element is like

1444
01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:16.279
almost like troublingly like infinite in that
I have to stop myself from like every

1445
01:38:16.359 --> 01:38:19.920
day of the week I would love
to either not like nowadays it's not going

1446
01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:23.319
out to the bars every day of
the week, but like, especially now

1447
01:38:23.319 --> 01:38:26.560
that I'm living around a bunch of
friends again, it's like it's so hard

1448
01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:30.560
to stop myself from obviously like podcasts
and stuff, you know, you know,

1449
01:38:30.640 --> 01:38:32.399
doing various things like that at night, but then having friends over from

1450
01:38:32.439 --> 01:38:35.920
movie nights or on the weekends going
out and doing stuff or just planning like

1451
01:38:36.119 --> 01:38:39.520
you know, there's a wrestling paper
view on Saturday, I'm gonna host a

1452
01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:42.119
party. I'm gonna do this.
So it's like I kind of have to

1453
01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:45.439
stop myself from every day of the
week. It's putting something at night where

1454
01:38:45.479 --> 01:38:48.479
it's like it's gonna be drinking and
hanging out and social and like, and

1455
01:38:48.640 --> 01:38:53.000
I don't the battery thing is like
I feel like when I'm out or if

1456
01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:56.239
I'm socializing and drinking and stuff,
it just goes and doors and doors.

1457
01:38:56.279 --> 01:38:59.079
You always hear about like, you
know, alcohols a depressant and some people

1458
01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:01.359
have a couple of beers and get
hired. I've always been the absolute opposite

1459
01:39:01.359 --> 01:39:04.479
where it's like, I mean you
you both have probably experienced this before,

1460
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:08.560
where it's like be at a bar
and then like it'll be like last call

1461
01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:10.720
and I've been like what the hell, No, we just got started,

1462
01:39:10.720 --> 01:39:13.279
and it's like I'm trying to like
rally people to come back to watch mcgroober

1463
01:39:13.399 --> 01:39:15.880
or something like let's get this train
roll and let's let's what we gotta stop

1464
01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:17.039
and we're gonna buy even buy a
twelve pack, and we're gonna watch a

1465
01:39:17.039 --> 01:39:18.800
movie. We're gonna go play a
game. I got an idea, let's

1466
01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:21.680
go watch Wrestlemaniam seventeen in my players, Let's go do this. Like I

1467
01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:29.079
don't, like I would just keep
going if people around me didn't peter out

1468
01:39:29.119 --> 01:39:31.399
at a certain point. And uh, it's a lot. So like I

1469
01:39:31.439 --> 01:39:34.359
do have to kind of stop myself
from like constantly doing stuff, and so

1470
01:39:34.439 --> 01:39:38.800
like I do try to, like
on a rare night that I don't have

1471
01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:43.159
any kind of plans like no podcast, no friend stuff or whatever, I

1472
01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:44.840
do try to just enjoy it.
It's like, oh man, I can

1473
01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:46.439
just like Okay, I'm gonna sit
here like this last weekend three days,

1474
01:39:46.439 --> 01:39:49.520
I didn't have any plans. I
just played Final Fantasy for three days.

1475
01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:51.760
And like there is a part of
me that's like, oh man, what

1476
01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:54.640
am I doing? I got a
three day week and I'm like not leaving

1477
01:39:54.640 --> 01:39:56.800
the house. I'm not doing anything. I don't have any plans. But

1478
01:39:56.840 --> 01:39:59.039
then I try to like stop myself, be like no, this is a

1479
01:39:59.159 --> 01:40:00.800
nice thing. Like I just get
to like I'm just gonna be comfortable at

1480
01:40:00.840 --> 01:40:04.000
home. I'll you know, work
out, I'll you know, play Final

1481
01:40:04.039 --> 01:40:06.840
Fantasy. Ill it's you know,
it's it's a good thing. It's a

1482
01:40:06.840 --> 01:40:11.840
healthy thing, because otherwise I would
just go all the time, every time

1483
01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:16.760
and never get tired of it.
Yeah. Yeah, I like I sometimes

1484
01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:24.159
get annoyed with how my energy works. It's like I will not realize how

1485
01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:27.880
much I need a break from social
stuff until all of a sudden, Holy

1486
01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:30.319
shit, I just realized how much
I need a break because like to your

1487
01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:34.119
point, Dan, it's like three
and a half week straight or something.

1488
01:40:34.199 --> 01:40:38.840
It's like I enjoyed going to the
office to break shake off the cobwebs.

1489
01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:41.479
Like hey, like we've been meaning
to try this new restaurant. Let's book

1490
01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:44.840
that for Friday, and then you
know, like, oh, Saturday,

1491
01:40:44.840 --> 01:40:46.720
these we haven't seen these people in
a while. Let's go over to Queen's

1492
01:40:46.760 --> 01:40:51.359
or invite them over, and like
I have energy up until the morning or

1493
01:40:51.399 --> 01:40:55.520
the night. I don't. I
wish I could, Like I wish my

1494
01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:59.439
body. I like it's not a
circadium rhythm, but like whatever that is

1495
01:40:59.479 --> 01:41:02.479
for energy. It's like I wish
I it was more natural for me.

1496
01:41:02.600 --> 01:41:10.319
It's like it's all of a sudden
and like again, like I think Amanda's

1497
01:41:10.399 --> 01:41:13.560
very good at listening to her body
in that way, whereas me, I'm

1498
01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:16.520
like, oh fuck, I need
a break. Yeah, I wish I

1499
01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:19.399
could wean into it a little bit
more. And it's not like it's not

1500
01:41:19.439 --> 01:41:24.680
like bad. I enjoy, you
know, like our social life a lot,

1501
01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:29.439
but you know I do sometimes wish, and like the winter weather is

1502
01:41:29.479 --> 01:41:32.920
helping in this regard, like I
do enjoy more. Like how much easier

1503
01:41:32.960 --> 01:41:35.479
it is to get a bit burnt
out, not burnt out that's the wrong

1504
01:41:35.479 --> 01:41:39.279
phrase. How much easier it is
to get a bit more like content with

1505
01:41:39.359 --> 01:41:42.399
staying in and playing video games and
like do it like playing board games and

1506
01:41:42.439 --> 01:41:46.239
watching and catching up on the Sopranos
or whatever. But yeah, I'm hoping

1507
01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:49.680
in like a few years, I'm
just like I can like wind down as

1508
01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:53.439
opposed to all of a sudden be
like, oh wow, let's do a

1509
01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:59.560
I agree, let's stay in today, please please please. I have a

1510
01:41:59.600 --> 01:42:02.600
bit of a manic back and forth. I go really hard with wanting to

1511
01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:06.159
socialize and have a lot of fun, and then I will crash and then

1512
01:42:06.199 --> 01:42:11.279
I can't see anybody. I don't
know if that's healthy. It's probably not,

1513
01:42:11.399 --> 01:42:15.000
but that's just the way I'm designed. What I've found is that if

1514
01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:17.359
I do a big event, like
I just did the Streamer Awards, and

1515
01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:24.079
I met like a hundred people in
the course of three hours and did this

1516
01:42:24.119 --> 01:42:28.560
like nice show, and we all
hung out and had dinner and then drinks,

1517
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:30.159
and then at like ten pm,
I was like, I'm going home,

1518
01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:34.079
and then just went back to my
hotel and sat by myself for a

1519
01:42:34.079 --> 01:42:36.800
few hours and enjoyed myself. So
I went really hard and then I was

1520
01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:42.079
done. It happens to me almost
every con. You might see me the

1521
01:42:42.119 --> 01:42:45.560
first night or two at PAX.
On the third night, I'm not fucking

1522
01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:49.159
there. I have burnt my social
battery and it's gone. I don't know

1523
01:42:49.279 --> 01:42:53.239
exactly how it happens like that,
but I think when I am in a

1524
01:42:53.279 --> 01:43:00.159
social situation, I like to be
very talkative and you know, be involved

1525
01:43:00.199 --> 01:43:03.560
in the conversation. I'm not a
wallflower. I am in there. I'm

1526
01:43:03.640 --> 01:43:09.199
active, and I'm taking photos of
everybody and we're having jokes and I'm buying

1527
01:43:09.279 --> 01:43:12.880
drinks. We're having a good time, and then at some point I will

1528
01:43:12.880 --> 01:43:15.920
say, oh, you're done,
and then I don't want to see anybody

1529
01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:19.359
anymore because I've I've spent it.
Yeah, I know that feeling like I'm

1530
01:43:19.439 --> 01:43:21.840
really bad at saying no where.
It's like, let's say it's like a

1531
01:43:21.840 --> 01:43:25.880
PAS or a summer games fest or
something where you're on a four or five

1532
01:43:25.960 --> 01:43:29.239
day trip or something, and you
know, in my head it's just like

1533
01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:31.640
even if I'm super fucking exhausted by
that last day and I got to fly

1534
01:43:31.760 --> 01:43:34.680
the next morning or something like that, in my head there is that kind

1535
01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:38.840
of guilt of like, man,
how often am I around all these people?

1536
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.279
All these people like in the industry
I love, and I don't get

1537
01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:44.520
to see them maybe once a year
if I'm lucky. I'd feel like such

1538
01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:47.720
a goob if like I just went
to bed at ten o'clock and didn't go

1539
01:43:48.199 --> 01:43:51.359
to the hotel bar and to this
party, into that thing and and say

1540
01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:55.560
hi to everyone and then be out
till two four in the morning. Whatever.

1541
01:43:55.680 --> 01:43:57.760
Yeah, Like there, it's just
a weird I don't know if it's

1542
01:43:57.760 --> 01:44:00.239
like some part of me is like
trying to like it if some subconscious thing

1543
01:44:00.279 --> 01:44:03.239
is like, oh, I didn't
do anything in high school. In junior

1544
01:44:03.319 --> 01:44:05.640
high I didn't you know, if
I'm making up for lost time, but

1545
01:44:05.680 --> 01:44:09.279
like I don't know at a certain
point, like I shouldn't worry about that.

1546
01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:13.319
I'm forty. I think I've done
enough. I don't. I shouldn't

1547
01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:15.039
feel like I have to go out
every fucking night or feel guilty. You

1548
01:44:15.039 --> 01:44:17.560
know. No, I would definitely
say you, of all people, make

1549
01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:20.520
your presence known when you're there and
it lasts, so I don't think you

1550
01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:27.600
need to be constantly re upping your
like presence in your friend's lives. It's

1551
01:44:27.640 --> 01:44:33.960
there no matter what I'm I think
similarly where I'm a firm believer in the

1552
01:44:34.039 --> 01:44:41.000
fact that like strong relationships require,
you know, work, not like not

1553
01:44:41.399 --> 01:44:45.720
like arduous work, but if you
want to like maintain strong relationships, especially

1554
01:44:45.760 --> 01:44:51.119
as people move away. And sometimes
it's just texting someone about like a Warhammer

1555
01:44:51.159 --> 01:44:55.600
three update or something Steph Curry did, but like other times it's like,

1556
01:44:56.479 --> 01:44:59.319
man, we haven't seen them in
like three weeks. You never text me

1557
01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:03.000
Warhammer three updates anymore. We catch
up on a podcast every two weeks and

1558
01:45:03.159 --> 01:45:11.800
also talk what and friendship we text. I text you a decent amount likes.

1559
01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:15.960
Okay, shadows of change is getting
into I want to know how you're

1560
01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:18.760
feeling all the time. You do. No, you don't, I promise

1561
01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:24.720
you. I yeah. I Sometimes
I'll be in that mindset. I'm like,

1562
01:45:24.760 --> 01:45:26.800
oh, we haven't seen these people
in like three weeks. They're all

1563
01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:30.439
the way over in like far Brooklyn. If we don't see them tomorrow,

1564
01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:33.039
when will we see them? I
feel like our friendship will just flounder.

1565
01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:38.760
Like that's not true unless you're really
like very casual friends like that, the

1566
01:45:38.760 --> 01:45:41.720
friendships that matter will persist. I
still think you need to put in work

1567
01:45:41.800 --> 01:45:45.439
to have close relationships, but I
definitely need to get better at acknowledging that,

1568
01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:49.960
like saying no this one weekend or
these two weekends when we both the

1569
01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:53.760
men and I need recharges, like
it's not the end of the world,

1570
01:45:53.880 --> 01:45:59.920
Like fucking Joe's still going to be
friends with us in three weeks. And

1571
01:46:00.239 --> 01:46:01.680
of course you get together these people
and all of a sudden, it's like

1572
01:46:01.680 --> 01:46:05.319
you never you It's oh, you
catch up right away, and it's like

1573
01:46:05.359 --> 01:46:09.520
you never even left each other's side. So like I need to remind myself

1574
01:46:09.560 --> 01:46:14.399
of that sometimes. Something that I'm
really valuing a lot lately is you know

1575
01:46:14.479 --> 01:46:17.640
because as you know, very way
way less like bar nights and stuff like

1576
01:46:17.720 --> 01:46:20.960
that. Everyone's older, you know, half my friends have kids and stuff

1577
01:46:20.960 --> 01:46:24.279
now, like we're not going out
and shutting down bars the way we used

1578
01:46:24.279 --> 01:46:28.319
to. But like Ben Hansen,
you know, several times since I moved

1579
01:46:28.359 --> 01:46:30.159
back, it's like it'll just come
over, I'll make a couple of cocktails,

1580
01:46:30.199 --> 01:46:33.439
we'll watch a silly movie, hang
out, chat and like all right,

1581
01:46:33.439 --> 01:46:35.439
see it's not a super late night
or anything. We're just kind of

1582
01:46:35.439 --> 01:46:40.199
hanging out watching a fun movie together
nice and like that that's enough where it's

1583
01:46:40.199 --> 01:46:42.079
just like, man, that that's
a really fun way to just kind of

1584
01:46:42.079 --> 01:46:45.119
catch up, do something silly,
hang out and it's not like doesn't have

1585
01:46:45.119 --> 01:46:46.119
to be a whole night, don't
have to be like shit the whole next

1586
01:46:46.199 --> 01:46:50.039
day. And like you know,
I you know, with me with wrestling

1587
01:46:50.079 --> 01:46:53.680
and stuff like paper views are a
great way to do like watch parties and

1588
01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:56.159
stuff. So if there's like an
exciting show coming up, it's like,

1589
01:46:56.239 --> 01:46:59.239
okay, Roy Rumble's coming up,
I'll invite fifteen people over. We'll all

1590
01:46:59.279 --> 01:47:01.439
kind of hang out the thing,
order some pizza. It's just like doesn't

1591
01:47:01.560 --> 01:47:04.399
have to be you know, everyone
meets up at a bar and you know,

1592
01:47:04.600 --> 01:47:09.000
closes it down everything like that,
but but specifically like the just kind

1593
01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:11.439
of hangout nights where it's like,
all right, let's have a friend or

1594
01:47:11.439 --> 01:47:14.199
two over. You know, a
few of my friends and I are planning

1595
01:47:14.239 --> 01:47:20.239
at mcgoover night where we realize some
of us haven't seen some the Friday.

1596
01:47:20.640 --> 01:47:26.199
Yes, they haven't seen the macgover's
show. Friday watches mcgoober. So we're

1597
01:47:26.199 --> 01:47:29.039
gonna watch the entire Peacock Show and
one run one now on the show,

1598
01:47:29.079 --> 01:47:30.840
and probably just play a bunch like
any s games and watch the entire run

1599
01:47:30.880 --> 01:47:33.319
of the mcgover show. And it's
like that just sounds like a great night

1600
01:47:33.399 --> 01:47:38.279
me and like three friends hanging out
and just watch mcgoverer. Like, I

1601
01:47:38.359 --> 01:47:41.279
like that stuff a lot. So
you still haven't lost your taste for boogers.

1602
01:47:41.439 --> 01:47:46.359
It's the best line of the show. It's from Sam Elliott Nole.

1603
01:47:48.399 --> 01:47:51.039
Yeah, it's those nights in are
great. I agree, Sorry, man,

1604
01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:55.640
I think it's good to also,
you know, burn it down when

1605
01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:59.039
you have the opportunity, right,
Like, if you're getting that, obviously,

1606
01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:01.399
listen to your mental health. But
if you're at a wedding or you're

1607
01:48:01.439 --> 01:48:04.640
at like a thing with friends you
haven't seen in a long time, burn

1608
01:48:04.680 --> 01:48:10.359
it down. Enjoy yourself, like
push yourself. I think it's worth it

1609
01:48:10.399 --> 01:48:14.399
to go for it. It's just
so it's possible that the next day you

1610
01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:16.520
may be able to want headphones on
at the airport so no one talks to

1611
01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:18.760
you. Like, I think that's
fine. I think you can do both.

1612
01:48:18.840 --> 01:48:23.199
I think you can have it all. But like, enjoy the precious

1613
01:48:23.199 --> 01:48:25.800
moments that you have, especially if
they're rare, right, You'll, you'll

1614
01:48:25.920 --> 01:48:29.319
it's worth it, I think to
go and have have those moments with your

1615
01:48:29.359 --> 01:48:32.039
buds before you sit in your hotel
room. That's what makes it tough with

1616
01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:34.960
like packs and stuff like that or
anything like video like you know, Marianna,

1617
01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:38.319
you do Twitch con Like there's you
know, any any convention, summer

1618
01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:42.840
games, festing that stuff where it's
like you have to balance the like everyone's

1619
01:48:42.880 --> 01:48:45.359
here a lot of open bar situations
things like that, like you know,

1620
01:48:45.760 --> 01:48:48.000
you want to drink and be out
late and stuff like that. But also

1621
01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:53.279
we usually have to work these next
days or produce shows and things like that.

1622
01:48:53.399 --> 01:48:57.880
So like that, I haven't done
a PAS since pre pandemic. Uh,

1623
01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:00.199
and I'm going to packs East,
and so I can't do it the

1624
01:49:00.199 --> 01:49:02.720
way I used to. I can't
just like close down the bar every night

1625
01:49:02.800 --> 01:49:06.279
at the hotel and then do a
live show the next day. Is something

1626
01:49:06.279 --> 01:49:10.319
that I'm already anxious about and then
I'm like hungover anxiety, and I just

1627
01:49:10.359 --> 01:49:13.520
can't do that to that degree anymore. So, like you gotta pact all

1628
01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:15.760
that stuff in for sure, but
it's hard to say no, especially in

1629
01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:18.319
those circumstances. Just listen to your
body. Don't feel guilty if you say

1630
01:49:18.359 --> 01:49:21.319
no. Yeah. Yeah, I
don't think she asked for advice, but

1631
01:49:21.359 --> 01:49:27.880
we gave it anyway. Yeah,
it is he gets up for free get

1632
01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:30.640
it well. Thank you, Rachel, appreciate you reading in. And also

1633
01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:35.000
I can assess Dwayne. I think
he's a pit bull maybe maybe a mix,

1634
01:49:35.079 --> 01:49:40.359
but looks super like a pit bull
and Taco, a very fluffy gray

1635
01:49:40.399 --> 01:49:44.880
cat, are both gorgeous and Rachel
sent in photos. Dan, do you

1636
01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:47.560
want to read this one from Morgan? Sure? Hey, Mary, Dan,

1637
01:49:47.600 --> 01:49:49.920
and Mike. I hope you all
had a wonderful New Year's. As

1638
01:49:49.960 --> 01:49:54.760
I was swatting at mosquitoes during the
middle of New Orleans winter, it made

1639
01:49:54.760 --> 01:49:58.479
me think of a question for the
Escape cast. If given the opportunity,

1640
01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:02.640
what one creature would you just eliminate
from the planet without hesitation. I'd get

1641
01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:06.079
rid of mosquitoes, even if the
environmental impact meant the end of the Earth.

1642
01:50:06.520 --> 01:50:11.640
I'd go knowing that at least I
got them first. For argument's sake,

1643
01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:15.359
Mike, you cannot choose to eliminate
women, even though we know how

1644
01:50:15.359 --> 01:50:18.640
you feel about them. Also,
I don't like that bit. Look,

1645
01:50:18.680 --> 01:50:26.960
we all know that. Also feel
to discuss Mary would say that about liberals

1646
01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:31.319
of course. Also feel free to
discuss getting rid of something that would impact

1647
01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:36.560
Yeah, you can't say liberals or
whoever fucking Reagan's running Aponia was Yeah,

1648
01:50:36.640 --> 01:50:42.039
yeah, don't get Mary started.
Also feel free to discuss how getting rid

1649
01:50:42.039 --> 01:50:45.920
of something would impact the environment,
or just pretend everything else would go along

1650
01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:47.640
as normal. Thanks for the great
game of your episode was incredible to watch.

1651
01:50:47.720 --> 01:50:51.279
More. Some of this is dated
from New Year's but it's still relevant.

1652
01:50:51.960 --> 01:50:58.880
I think it's a big list bugs
all Disney at all, Yeah,

1653
01:50:59.359 --> 01:51:02.159
Disney fans in general. Let's say, can we just at a role where

1654
01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:06.920
we're not just eliminating humans? That
seems troublesome. Yeah, yeah, I

1655
01:51:06.960 --> 01:51:13.399
could say, uh, bugs all
fun, bugs, parentheses all I really

1656
01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:20.239
don't like most reptiles. No,
areol what we don't have to agree?

1657
01:51:21.279 --> 01:51:25.399
Well, I'll give them like candy
and popcorn and cool ship win when I

1658
01:51:25.439 --> 01:51:28.319
don't have. We don't have to
agree on these this individual Okay, okay,

1659
01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:32.119
justies, just deal with it.
Salamanders, Oh yeah, I'm sure,

1660
01:51:32.239 --> 01:51:38.119
sure, I'm okay with these fucking
predatory dinosaurs slithering around the water.

1661
01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:45.960
This big crocodiles and like HeLa monsters
and komodo dragons. Sharks are scary,

1662
01:51:46.159 --> 01:51:49.079
but they're cool too, so I
think they get a pass. But they've

1663
01:51:49.119 --> 01:51:54.159
been documented enough where I can like
look back on their legacy and play shark

1664
01:51:54.239 --> 01:52:00.479
Nato or whatever the fuck it is. Possums, why would you powesome,

1665
01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:04.079
you bullyeve free? They're creepy possums
eat bugs your worst enemy, But there's

1666
01:52:04.119 --> 01:52:08.239
no bugs in this world that I
have. You can't wait wait, I

1667
01:52:08.279 --> 01:52:10.479
thought it was one. Are you
getting rid of multiple things that you have?

1668
01:52:10.680 --> 01:52:14.279
Let's just do the whole list here
a all bugs for me plus other

1669
01:52:14.359 --> 01:52:17.600
things. Possums get rid of bugs, they don't have rabies, they're actually

1670
01:52:17.600 --> 01:52:23.960
good for the environment, they eat
trash, and they're cute. I don't

1671
01:52:23.960 --> 01:52:26.119
think any of that's I don't think
they're cute at all. I don't like

1672
01:52:26.159 --> 01:52:30.439
it. I don't see any raccoons, the crazy faces. They're scary.

1673
01:52:30.720 --> 01:52:33.479
No, So bugs and possums are
gone in my world. I mean,

1674
01:52:33.640 --> 01:52:40.119
Morgan was pretty on the money with
mosquitoes regardless. That's bugs. Yeah,

1675
01:52:40.119 --> 01:52:43.399
I got that covered. Yeah,
I don't. And mosquitoes. Mosquitos tend

1676
01:52:43.439 --> 01:52:45.039
to ignore me for the most part. I'm lucky in that regard. I

1677
01:52:45.039 --> 01:52:47.840
don't know what it is about my
like heat signature or whatever, but they

1678
01:52:47.840 --> 01:52:51.760
still are annoying. But I would
probably get rid of like most parasites,

1679
01:52:51.840 --> 01:52:56.439
like, I don't want something that's
you know, you know, like the

1680
01:52:56.479 --> 01:53:00.399
ones that like apparently beaches, any
tape worms stuff, Oh no, I

1681
01:53:00.479 --> 01:53:08.399
got taps, you gotta have,
I gotta. I got to have my

1682
01:53:08.640 --> 01:53:14.880
tapeworms vibrate wine from champagne. The
grapes are infested with tapeworms to suck out

1683
01:53:14.920 --> 01:53:19.680
all the hops or whatever. Yep, that's all. That's all remotely accurate.

1684
01:53:23.159 --> 01:53:25.760
I don't, okay if I want
to pick one, because there's a

1685
01:53:25.800 --> 01:53:28.399
lot of things that annoy me,
but I do want to pick one.

1686
01:53:29.039 --> 01:53:34.960
Prioritize bugs. No, one species, one species. Bugs is a species.

1687
01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:42.640
Google. No, I think bug
is just slang for uh okay,

1688
01:53:42.640 --> 01:53:48.800
insects. That's only six legged,
which is a lot. I want spiders

1689
01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:53.439
gone. They're not insects. Well
whatever, you know what I mean.

1690
01:53:55.640 --> 01:54:00.680
No, I don't know a tiny
gross thing with a bunch of sure bugs,

1691
01:54:00.960 --> 01:54:05.199
yes, all of them that would. Butterflies are fine. Butterflies are

1692
01:54:05.199 --> 01:54:09.279
fine. See this. That's why
I don't want to what about flies?

1693
01:54:10.119 --> 01:54:15.319
Yeah, I get rid of them
that. I don't know enough about science

1694
01:54:15.439 --> 01:54:21.079
to specify how I feel like that
would definitely end the Earth within weeks if

1695
01:54:21.079 --> 01:54:25.279
we didn't like put it out like
in like a press release or something.

1696
01:54:25.279 --> 01:54:28.920
I don't think anybody would notice.
Isn't it like something about if bees went

1697
01:54:28.960 --> 01:54:32.159
extinct, like Earth would fall apart
in like two weeks or something. There's

1698
01:54:32.199 --> 01:54:39.079
no way. I'm just I'm so
important not getting to get them out of

1699
01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:45.680
here the pandas to say, anyways, except for adorable they don't want to

1700
01:54:45.720 --> 01:54:49.199
be here. They're trying. They're
all suicidal. They're trying to go.

1701
01:54:49.640 --> 01:54:53.560
They're trying to do the Matthew mcconne
from True Detective Season one, like walk

1702
01:54:53.640 --> 01:54:56.680
arm in arm toward oblivion. But
we're not letting them. We're putting them

1703
01:54:56.680 --> 01:55:00.039
in. Zoos are like, God
fucking damn it. We tried to I

1704
01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:02.680
give you the message and you're just
not listening. So Dan's just saying bugs

1705
01:55:02.680 --> 01:55:09.680
except for butterflies. Yeah, bugs
except for buttercuts like the buzzy caterpillars and

1706
01:55:09.680 --> 01:55:12.720
stuff. They probably turn in butterflies, so that's in the same category.

1707
01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:19.760
What would mine be? I wish
I wish I liked I wish I liked

1708
01:55:20.279 --> 01:55:27.279
reptiles, but I don't get rid
of them, specifically snakes. I really

1709
01:55:27.279 --> 01:55:30.319
just don't like snakes at all.
I agree with mosquitoes. Do I have

1710
01:55:30.399 --> 01:55:33.960
to be got to pick a new
It's genuinely what I want. I know,

1711
01:55:34.079 --> 01:55:38.800
man, I really kind of hate
woodpeckers right now because they really fucking

1712
01:55:38.840 --> 01:55:44.039
love my house. But I they're
just every fucking day the woodpeckers go nuts,

1713
01:55:44.079 --> 01:55:45.960
and then the dogs freak out because
I think someone's knocking on the door,

1714
01:55:46.439 --> 01:55:50.199
and but I can't have a problem
with woodpeckers. They're just cute birds.

1715
01:55:50.279 --> 01:55:54.119
They don't know any better, you
know, like it's just a Tom

1716
01:55:54.119 --> 01:55:59.560
and Jerry episode. But I am
running on the deck sometimes I get out

1717
01:55:59.560 --> 01:56:04.239
of here beggars shaking, But I
don't want to get rid of them shaking.

1718
01:56:04.640 --> 01:56:09.760
They mixed uh less ware cocktail.
Yeah. Where the side of the

1719
01:56:09.760 --> 01:56:15.079
house, So the wall directly that
I'm facing right now, are there's holes?

1720
01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:17.359
I got holes? Yeah, okay, you're going to break into the

1721
01:56:17.359 --> 01:56:21.560
house sometimes pecking in my skull.
My dad also had a woodpecker and he

1722
01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:28.439
got rid of it a neutral system
that doesn't hurt the woodpecker. Tell me

1723
01:56:28.520 --> 01:56:32.079
more, okay it is. I
don't want to hurt them. You can

1724
01:56:32.119 --> 01:56:38.239
look these up. They're like beach
balls, and they they're like balls that

1725
01:56:38.319 --> 01:56:42.600
have like an eye on them,
and it scares the woodpecker because they they

1726
01:56:42.640 --> 01:56:49.279
look at it like it's a uh
what do you call it? An enemy

1727
01:56:49.359 --> 01:56:55.439
needs predator? Oh, I see
predator's thing hanging it on the side of

1728
01:56:55.479 --> 01:56:57.760
your house, and they'll get scared, and they won't they won't peck anymore.

1729
01:56:57.840 --> 01:57:00.319
See I've tried that, so I
have put a buch of long mylar

1730
01:57:00.439 --> 01:57:05.000
strips, the flashy reflective ones.
I've also put fake woodpeckers on the side

1731
01:57:05.000 --> 01:57:09.720
of my house. Like this is
all like very precarious. I'm leaning out

1732
01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:14.319
windows and like trying to nail my
lar in fake birds to my house and

1733
01:57:14.760 --> 01:57:16.239
they don't give a shit. Why
is it taking so long for this like

1734
01:57:16.399 --> 01:57:20.880
saga of woodpeckery to come up?
I mean, woodpeckers don't come up off,

1735
01:57:21.279 --> 01:57:25.760
no, but like you talk about
things that are like taking up your

1736
01:57:25.760 --> 01:57:29.760
time in this it's not that podcast. It's called like a here, I'll

1737
01:57:29.760 --> 01:57:33.279
show you. It's I'll put it
in the Discuss Food. Okay, so

1738
01:57:33.680 --> 01:57:36.720
I'll buy this and I'll report back
like it's the saga. Oh what the

1739
01:57:36.760 --> 01:57:40.800
fuck are those? It's a ball
with eyeballs. They don't like it.

1740
01:57:41.199 --> 01:57:44.279
That looks like something from me.
I like it. They don't like the

1741
01:57:45.159 --> 01:57:50.800
scare balloons, Okay, okay.
Woodpeckers scare my dad. My dad fought

1742
01:57:50.880 --> 01:57:55.560
woodpeckers on his house for like a
year. He would not stop talking about

1743
01:57:55.560 --> 01:57:58.520
it. And the thing that finally
did it were these balls. And he

1744
01:57:58.720 --> 01:58:00.399
was like, the balls are all
ugly, but at least they don't.

1745
01:58:00.800 --> 01:58:04.439
I'm fine with that. They don't
knock and make my dogs. They eventually

1746
01:58:04.760 --> 01:58:09.199
balls there will you be able to
take them down after a while, Like

1747
01:58:09.239 --> 01:58:12.840
if the woodpecker is just associated,
because then they'll know that you're weak.

1748
01:58:12.920 --> 01:58:16.239
You have to keep him up forever. It would not bother me at all.

1749
01:58:16.279 --> 01:58:18.760
I've got my lar strips and fake
birds all over the side of my

1750
01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:23.000
house and I don't care at all. I can't wait till next time we

1751
01:58:23.119 --> 01:58:25.960
visit, and I just your house
just looks like a fucking clown house.

1752
01:58:26.319 --> 01:58:32.279
There was one yesterday, yesterday.
I'm used to I'm used to that,

1753
01:58:32.319 --> 01:58:34.399
And all of a sudden, I
got a text from Bunk yesterday that just

1754
01:58:34.439 --> 01:58:38.720
said noise question mark, and I
paused Final Fantasy, and I was like,

1755
01:58:39.039 --> 01:58:41.079
and I heard it just sounded like
somebody was on the side of my

1756
01:58:41.119 --> 01:58:45.479
house with the hammers, Like,
what the fuck is that? There's no

1757
01:58:45.520 --> 01:58:47.720
way that's the woodpecker. I run
out on the deck and I look over

1758
01:58:47.840 --> 01:58:51.560
and it's just got this bright redhead, this black and white body looked like

1759
01:58:51.600 --> 01:58:55.600
a the size of a bald He
looked like a pterodactyl on the side of

1760
01:58:55.600 --> 01:58:58.079
my house. And I yelled at
it and it flew away. But like,

1761
01:58:58.079 --> 01:59:00.680
there's no fucking way woodpeckers get that
bit. So these birds all know

1762
01:59:00.800 --> 01:59:03.880
that my house is just ripe for
like breaking through this wall to kill me

1763
01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:09.399
or something. I'm gonna buy these
fucking eye balloons and I'll report Why does

1764
01:59:09.479 --> 01:59:14.439
this take someone to come up problems
to the birds in your neighborhood? And

1765
01:59:14.479 --> 01:59:20.520
you're just now telling me why you
get harm Mary, I can't buy.

1766
01:59:20.600 --> 01:59:25.720
These are three point three out of
five. Wait, you can't buy by

1767
01:59:25.880 --> 01:59:29.000
standards. Look, I'm looking at
something that are three point eight not great,

1768
01:59:29.520 --> 01:59:33.319
two thousand ratings at three count a
bird ex Se pack visual decoys yellow

1769
01:59:33.319 --> 01:59:35.840
Eye, white Eye, black Eye. I'll buy. I'll buy this one

1770
01:59:36.000 --> 01:59:41.279
one day shipping. I'll nail this
inside my house tomorrow. Every day you

1771
01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:45.520
stray closer to your father's style.
No, no, no, no,

1772
01:59:45.520 --> 01:59:49.880
no no no. He would do
absolutely nothing, he fucking that motherfucker.

1773
01:59:50.920 --> 01:59:57.560
There is a nail above his bed
that he said every morning for years he

1774
01:59:57.600 --> 02:00:00.359
would wake up and freak out because
he thought it was a spider. And

1775
02:00:00.479 --> 02:00:02.960
instead of taking the nail out,
which he didn't even have to get a

1776
02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:05.880
ladder, he just take it out
of the wall. He just didn't do

1777
02:00:05.920 --> 02:00:09.479
anything, and every morning was like, like, that's how we woke up

1778
02:00:09.520 --> 02:00:12.680
every day instead of taking a nail
out of a wall. So I'm not

1779
02:00:12.800 --> 02:00:15.319
taking action. I'm a man of
action. Do you need a hammer to

1780
02:00:15.439 --> 02:00:19.720
claw? Then hang up these?
Okay, I just placed an order.

1781
02:00:19.720 --> 02:00:24.680
It'll be here. You did,
all right? Give me their spokesman.

1782
02:00:26.359 --> 02:00:29.359
It's a three pack. I got
a three pack. Is there like a

1783
02:00:29.399 --> 02:00:31.439
specific side of the house they're going
toward. Oh yeah, no, there's

1784
02:00:31.439 --> 02:00:34.119
a very specific spot and they are
about to break through and kill me.

1785
02:00:35.760 --> 02:00:40.079
They're not going to break through.
I wanted to know it there. The

1786
02:00:40.119 --> 02:00:43.520
hole is pretty significant. We were
warned about it when we bought the house.

1787
02:00:44.359 --> 02:00:48.960
Oh yeah, Oh they're aggressive.
This is a specific it's been a

1788
02:00:49.000 --> 02:00:53.079
specific spot that you knew about since
you moved in. Oh yeah, it's

1789
02:00:53.119 --> 02:00:59.319
like and it's our bedroom. They're
trying to kill me. Wait did the

1790
02:00:59.359 --> 02:01:02.760
previous owners. It's like a known
issue that like you look at the side

1791
02:01:02.760 --> 02:01:06.000
of the house and there are numerous
holes that they've clearly shoved like steel wool

1792
02:01:06.000 --> 02:01:11.680
and stuff in trying to be like
to stop the encroachment of the woodpeckers,

1793
02:01:11.720 --> 02:01:15.239
but they're finding more. They are. They're desperate to break in and kill

1794
02:01:15.279 --> 02:01:18.720
me. I don't know a ton
about birds, but wouldn't that suggest that

1795
02:01:18.720 --> 02:01:21.439
they're getting food from it? AKA? Like, are you sure there's not

1796
02:01:21.560 --> 02:01:30.640
termites there? Woodpeckers do that to
get bugs out of the wood. I

1797
02:01:30.680 --> 02:01:33.720
assume they just beat wood. I
don't think. I actually don't know for

1798
02:01:33.760 --> 02:01:36.560
sure. I'm pretty sure they dig
for bugs in trees or is it?

1799
02:01:38.039 --> 02:01:41.159
Okay? I have no sign to
termites, but they definitely fucking love my

1800
02:01:41.239 --> 02:01:45.960
house. Mary, I'm excited about
these eyeball balls. Try the balls.

1801
02:01:46.079 --> 02:01:49.520
Tell me what you think. My
dad swore by them. He was like,

1802
02:01:49.600 --> 02:01:54.880
I hate nothing worked, Jesus.
They are bigger that I. When

1803
02:01:54.880 --> 02:01:58.159
I think of woodpeckers, I associate
them with hummingbirds, which are tiny and

1804
02:01:58.159 --> 02:02:01.319
cute. But they peck it to
established territory, find a mate, excavate

1805
02:02:01.359 --> 02:02:04.239
a nesting hole, or find insects, and sometimes that wood is attached to

1806
02:02:04.319 --> 02:02:09.159
a building. Yeah, they're dicks. But you I'm assuming you've checked for

1807
02:02:09.279 --> 02:02:13.199
termites. Uh, I mean we
had the inspect I think after this long

1808
02:02:13.319 --> 02:02:15.399
the termites would have done some noticeable
damage. Yeah, we're gonna it's the

1809
02:02:15.399 --> 02:02:20.119
woodpeckers that are doing the fucking damage. It's really funny to me. I

1810
02:02:20.159 --> 02:02:25.000
know it's annoying. You've seen the
backyard, just the pond, and every

1811
02:02:25.119 --> 02:02:28.560
night we go to bed and it's
the crazy like last night, just coyotes

1812
02:02:28.720 --> 02:02:32.239
constantly doing weird wailing. And now
it's turning in the spring, so the

1813
02:02:32.279 --> 02:02:35.960
turkeys are out. Now there's a
turkey named Claudette that nests on the side

1814
02:02:35.960 --> 02:02:39.520
of our house in the spring.
And just in the middle of the night,

1815
02:02:39.560 --> 02:02:43.800
you'll wake up and you'll here here
like coyotes and then the turkey's just

1816
02:02:43.840 --> 02:02:47.800
like and then the owls doing crazy
stuff. It is like it sounds insane

1817
02:02:47.800 --> 02:02:49.600
out there, and that's what I
wake up to a lot of nights.

1818
02:02:51.239 --> 02:02:57.720
Ah, this is so fun for
me. I wish here's a living in

1819
02:02:57.720 --> 02:03:01.199
the cities. Yeah, no,
it's nice. I've had I've had coyotes

1820
02:03:01.199 --> 02:03:08.439
near me. I've had bullfrogs are
very loud in a pond behind our house,

1821
02:03:08.479 --> 02:03:14.560
Like I don't know how to do
it, but this is just scream

1822
02:03:14.680 --> 02:03:21.159
like like they sound like women being
stabbed. I have to that noise happens

1823
02:03:21.199 --> 02:03:27.399
in Mary's house a lot creature sec
No, they don't you know any of

1824
02:03:27.439 --> 02:03:30.880
the noises that happen in this house. Oh really, I have two raccoons

1825
02:03:30.920 --> 02:03:35.920
that definitely sleep under my front porch
when it's raining. I know that that's

1826
02:03:35.960 --> 02:03:42.159
the reason, because when it's raining
randomly when I'm watching TV, my dog

1827
02:03:42.199 --> 02:03:45.760
will freak out, jump off the
couch and start scratching at the air vents.

1828
02:03:45.840 --> 02:03:49.000
And it's because the air vents suck
air from under my front porch,

1829
02:03:49.199 --> 02:03:54.640
and if the raccoons are there,
farten it up. Their scent is going

1830
02:03:54.680 --> 02:03:58.760
into the air vent and then my
dog is like sniffing them and being like,

1831
02:03:59.399 --> 02:04:00.000
oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, they're here.

1832
02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:03.439
You guys are right here. And
it happens every time it rains.

1833
02:04:03.479 --> 02:04:08.039
Weird. It's a very specific thing. And we've tried to hie. We've

1834
02:04:08.079 --> 02:04:10.760
tried to stop them from being able
to get under there, and I've seen

1835
02:04:10.880 --> 02:04:15.079
the digging areas where they're clearly digging
to get into my front porch. I've

1836
02:04:15.079 --> 02:04:19.079
tried, uh, bars of soap
and like different neutral ways to get rid

1837
02:04:19.159 --> 02:04:25.000
of the raccoons because I don't want
them hurt. But uh, they're all

1838
02:04:25.079 --> 02:04:28.039
I don't think they're doing any damage. But every every time it rains,

1839
02:04:28.079 --> 02:04:32.479
my dog breaks out and is like, they're here. He knows. It's

1840
02:04:32.479 --> 02:04:38.159
interesting dogs because like dogs are so
there's such creatures. I have it dogs

1841
02:04:38.159 --> 02:04:41.159
are and so when they are doing
something that is so out of the ordinary,

1842
02:04:41.239 --> 02:04:44.119
it's so notice and it's like,
wait, why are you all of

1843
02:04:44.119 --> 02:04:46.720
a sudden smelling like that part of
the floor or the wall, like something's

1844
02:04:46.800 --> 02:04:49.079
up here. Like they're pretty good
at, like, you know, sussing

1845
02:04:49.119 --> 02:04:53.920
that stuff out. I growing up
at dogs. I one thousand percent agree

1846
02:04:54.039 --> 02:04:57.439
cats are the opposite. They do
weird shit on a routine basis. So

1847
02:04:57.560 --> 02:05:01.399
like they just pick a new place
to like creep up to and smell something

1848
02:05:01.439 --> 02:05:04.039
like under our stove for ins.
I'm like, is there something under there?

1849
02:05:04.039 --> 02:05:06.920
And then I check and there's not. They're just being weird, Mike,

1850
02:05:08.159 --> 02:05:10.000
you know cats that This is something
happened to me today. I was

1851
02:05:10.000 --> 02:05:12.560
walking around the neighborhood and uh,
I didn't know what to do about this.

1852
02:05:12.600 --> 02:05:15.800
I've noticed this cat several times when
our walk around the neighborhood. I

1853
02:05:15.840 --> 02:05:18.359
mean it's always like on the street, like walking it's it looks like a

1854
02:05:18.439 --> 02:05:23.039
house cat's like a greyhouse cat with
a collar. It's got like a tag,

1855
02:05:23.479 --> 02:05:26.239
but it's not near a house.
I'll always see it like near kind

1856
02:05:26.239 --> 02:05:30.039
of woods in the road and stuff, and it's friendly, like it'll look

1857
02:05:30.039 --> 02:05:31.119
at me and like kind of come
up to me, and like today I

1858
02:05:31.239 --> 02:05:33.640
leaned down. I was like,
okay, really friendly. I started petting

1859
02:05:33.680 --> 02:05:35.800
it and it rolled on its back
and I was, you know, revendence

1860
02:05:35.840 --> 02:05:39.840
tummy and stuff like a very very
friendly cat and everything. And I was

1861
02:05:39.880 --> 02:05:44.479
wondering, like should I, like
there's a tag like information, should I

1862
02:05:44.720 --> 02:05:47.199
contact someone? Or like have I
seen it several times? I've seen it

1863
02:05:47.239 --> 02:05:50.840
several times over like weeks. It
doesn't seem like emaciated or anything. I'm

1864
02:05:50.840 --> 02:05:56.319
willing to bet that's an outdoor cat
who goes home at night in the evening

1865
02:05:56.359 --> 02:05:59.960
for food and then goes out in
the woods. And that's like my brother

1866
02:06:00.079 --> 02:06:02.199
has an outdoor cat that comes back
paws at their door like when the sun's

1867
02:06:02.239 --> 02:06:06.399
going out to sleep inside their house. It's food there, but also can

1868
02:06:06.439 --> 02:06:11.319
catch mice. Because I didn't know
if I should like contact someone, because

1869
02:06:11.359 --> 02:06:13.039
I was like, hey, are
you okay, buddy, Like you know,

1870
02:06:13.079 --> 02:06:15.600
it's uh, it seemed happy though, so I'm very friendly. No,

1871
02:06:15.680 --> 02:06:17.319
that sounds like an outdoor cat.
I mean people listening might disagree,

1872
02:06:17.359 --> 02:06:20.880
and please write in if you don't. I honestly like laid on its back

1873
02:06:20.880 --> 02:06:23.920
in the middle of the road and
it was like revedence tummy and I was

1874
02:06:23.920 --> 02:06:25.720
like, oh, what a sweet
cat. Yeah, I would think something

1875
02:06:25.760 --> 02:06:28.960
that's starving would not be so like
trusting in that, you know, I

1876
02:06:29.000 --> 02:06:31.560
mean, something that is hungry could
be coming up to you to try to

1877
02:06:31.560 --> 02:06:34.840
get food. But like I think
you would know if it was like it's

1878
02:06:34.840 --> 02:06:38.720
got tags, and if you've seen
it numerous occasions, then I think it's

1879
02:06:38.880 --> 02:06:42.359
fine. Okay, that's good to
hear again, right in if you disagree

1880
02:06:42.359 --> 02:06:44.319
with me. But I've never had
an outdoor cat. But like again,

1881
02:06:44.319 --> 02:06:45.760
my brother has one, and I've
seen it come up back to the sliding

1882
02:06:45.800 --> 02:06:49.720
door at like eight pm in the
summer and like paw come in to sleep

1883
02:06:49.720 --> 02:06:54.039
for a bit and then go out
in the morning and then like finds its

1884
02:06:54.079 --> 02:06:57.359
way home no problem. Yeah,
it's not like miles from houses. It's

1885
02:06:57.399 --> 02:07:00.079
you know, it's like neighborhood ish
areas. It's probably like certain houses that

1886
02:07:00.159 --> 02:07:03.000
leave out food for it, and
it has this routine more often than not.

1887
02:07:03.119 --> 02:07:06.840
I know, like neighborhood outdoor cats. There are a few, not

1888
02:07:08.039 --> 02:07:11.319
many, mind you, but a
few here in Hoboken, which is crazy

1889
02:07:11.319 --> 02:07:15.199
because it's very urban like. Even
here, it's like I've seen a few

1890
02:07:15.239 --> 02:07:19.640
apartments that leave out food, which
you're not supposed to for I don't fully

1891
02:07:19.720 --> 02:07:23.319
understand. I know it like encourages
them to come back there, but it's

1892
02:07:23.399 --> 02:07:26.199
like, well, they're very smart, they know not they know how to

1893
02:07:26.319 --> 02:07:30.560
cross the street and move around,
but they just become like an installations in

1894
02:07:30.600 --> 02:07:34.800
the neighborhood. Okay, but yeah, in the woods cats are Cats are

1895
02:07:34.960 --> 02:07:41.439
way better survivors. Domesticated cats are
way better survivors than domesticated dogs. I

1896
02:07:41.479 --> 02:07:45.239
feel like could last a couple of
minutes in a while, a couple yeah,

1897
02:07:45.319 --> 02:07:47.960
I agree. Think your dog would
last longer than my dogs. I

1898
02:07:47.960 --> 02:07:54.720
think your dogs would immediately have a
heart attack as soon as they can video

1899
02:07:54.840 --> 02:08:00.239
gizmo, like not knowing how to
bring his back legs outside. Very stupid,

1900
02:08:00.439 --> 02:08:07.439
very pampered little dogs. At least
got some like like Simone could win

1901
02:08:07.479 --> 02:08:13.279
a fight against other animals cockroach.
I feel the problemless Simon is that he

1902
02:08:13.319 --> 02:08:18.760
would pick a fight with something that
would kill, like a car or something

1903
02:08:18.840 --> 02:08:22.239
like he's a ding dong, but
he has a will to live. I

1904
02:08:22.279 --> 02:08:28.399
don't think that your dogs do well
to give up. They just are afraid

1905
02:08:28.439 --> 02:08:33.359
of everything, and well actually gives
me loves everyone. The Razor would Yeah,

1906
02:08:33.479 --> 02:08:35.840
Razor would preak out about everything you. Mary, I know that we

1907
02:08:35.840 --> 02:08:39.560
talked about in here. Mary actively
antagonized my dog for an entire weason.

1908
02:08:41.840 --> 02:08:46.840
She's she's like because Razor, Gizmo
is all over Mary on her lap,

1909
02:08:48.319 --> 02:08:52.119
was the nicest dog lived. Mary
was saying how her strategy with dogs that

1910
02:08:52.159 --> 02:08:56.159
don't like her, she like doesn't
waste time trying to earn their appreciation.

1911
02:08:56.319 --> 02:08:58.640
She'll just be like, we're not
gonna be friends, let's enemies. And

1912
02:08:58.680 --> 02:09:03.920
then she sprinted at can you chasing
him around the house or like making like

1913
02:09:03.960 --> 02:09:07.359
growling sounds. And he was not
into that. He hated you on a

1914
02:09:07.439 --> 02:09:13.640
level. I've never seen him hate
anyone doing myself such a dog person,

1915
02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:16.359
and Gizmo was like all up on
me the whole time, Like I was

1916
02:09:16.399 --> 02:09:20.000
constantly petting Gizmo. But because Razor
and I didn't get along, it got

1917
02:09:20.079 --> 02:09:24.760
to this weird degree where even if
I saw the corner of like Razor's eye

1918
02:09:24.760 --> 02:09:28.720
from across the room, he would
start barking at me, and so I

1919
02:09:28.720 --> 02:09:30.960
was like, fuck it, I'll
just kill you, and then I started

1920
02:09:31.039 --> 02:09:33.680
running at him. For the record, he did nothing wrong. He's a

1921
02:09:33.720 --> 02:09:39.640
complete psychopath, like you. I
defended myself. Yeah, yeah, your

1922
02:09:39.680 --> 02:09:43.159
dog will either love me or die. There's nothing between. Yeah, you're

1923
02:09:43.159 --> 02:09:48.680
not wasting time on the ones you're
never gonna win over regardless, absolutely not.

1924
02:09:48.039 --> 02:09:52.760
Razor and I weren't meant to be, So he's getting he did.

1925
02:09:54.119 --> 02:09:58.319
I did chase that dude around a
lot, Like at the end. I

1926
02:09:58.359 --> 02:10:01.640
think there was a mutual respect,
which was I hate you, but I

1927
02:10:01.680 --> 02:10:05.520
respect you. God damn it,
I don't. I don't think Razor likes

1928
02:10:05.600 --> 02:10:13.399
anyone, but he hates you.
Well, well, I can't win them

1929
02:10:13.399 --> 02:10:18.000
all, thank you, Dan is
bugs except for butterflies and woodpeckers. I'm

1930
02:10:18.039 --> 02:10:26.680
reptiles and Mary is Razor, Razor, Let's kill him, worry, my

1931
02:10:26.800 --> 02:10:35.520
choice, my choice. We're talking
about animal abuse. Animal abuse. This

1932
02:10:35.560 --> 02:10:39.359
is why I don't listen anymore.
Well, I mean, aside from the

1933
02:10:39.399 --> 02:10:41.520
last six episodes, but this is
why I don't listen. They do animal

1934
02:10:41.560 --> 02:10:46.279
abuse. I like how you're you're
impression of like an internet guy is like

1935
02:10:46.319 --> 02:10:54.479
a bro voice because I'm masculine.
That what internet people are like. Yeah,

1936
02:10:56.079 --> 02:11:01.640
we have all the time, dude, so much sex. Like three

1937
02:11:01.640 --> 02:11:09.960
babes just texted me just now,
Well three babes totally street babes. Well,

1938
02:11:09.960 --> 02:11:13.640
thank you Morgan from New Orleans.
All right, that's our episode.

1939
02:11:13.840 --> 02:11:18.760
Yeah, I get if you want
to last thing you ever said, babe,

1940
02:11:18.840 --> 02:11:22.199
what was that? Honey? If
you want three Babes. If you

1941
02:11:22.199 --> 02:11:26.199
want to run into the podcast is
firescape cast at gmail dot com. Uh

1942
02:11:26.279 --> 02:11:31.119
Mary, tell them how to get
some sick thrias. Get our merch.

1943
02:11:31.399 --> 02:11:35.199
Go check out the merch line.
You can find it on fire escape cast

1944
02:11:35.399 --> 02:11:41.800
dot com. Our social channels merchfire
escape merch dot com. Do the comms.

1945
02:11:41.920 --> 02:11:46.039
You can figure it out. You
can slew thro your way to some

1946
02:11:46.079 --> 02:11:50.640
six sweaters, mugs, we have
mousepads, We have everything that you could

1947
02:11:50.640 --> 02:11:54.880
imagine that you'll need to live.
If you can't find it there, we'll

1948
02:11:54.880 --> 02:11:56.520
put it on there. Dan tell
them what they can do on Spotify and

1949
02:11:56.560 --> 02:12:01.039
Apple and all those things on the
five Guess Business. Give it the five

1950
02:12:01.079 --> 02:12:03.520
stars if you review a podcast,
Get in there, do a quick thing.

1951
02:12:03.880 --> 02:12:09.399
Also the Patreon, the just Search
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1952
02:12:09.439 --> 02:12:11.000
point we have been building up a
you know, it's not every week,

1953
02:12:11.000 --> 02:12:13.560
it's not on a set schedule,
but we've got a pretty good backlog that

1954
02:12:13.560 --> 02:12:18.000
you'll get access to immediately if you
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1955
02:12:18.039 --> 02:12:20.960
the most recent being the hell Divers
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1956
02:12:22.159 --> 02:12:24.920
Mahardi and Jake Decker. We got
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1957
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person stuff and everything. So check
it out. Join the Patreon, and

1958
02:12:28.560 --> 02:12:31.960
then you can find me at a
Giant bomb and on my own Twitch channel

1959
02:12:33.000 --> 02:12:35.399
at Dan Ryker Mary. What else
do you have going on? I'm also

1960
02:12:35.439 --> 02:12:41.640
on Twitch and Mary Kish and I
stream on Mondays as long as I'm in

1961
02:12:41.800 --> 02:12:46.520
the house. Sometimes I'm traveling.
And if you're not following our YouTube channel

1962
02:12:46.560 --> 02:12:50.600
already, Mary and I on our
own schedule have been doing resume before remake

1963
02:12:50.640 --> 02:12:54.760
for Resident can Eevil. I counted, Mary, I think it's season eighteen.

1964
02:12:54.359 --> 02:13:00.239
Oh wow, yeah, we've been
pretty too long. We did h

1965
02:13:01.119 --> 02:13:03.760
We've been active. We did the
elevator scene on the last episode, Oh

1966
02:13:03.800 --> 02:13:07.760
my god, and it was just
as fucking nail biting, and it it

1967
02:13:07.439 --> 02:13:11.359
a little bit, It was a
little it was oh man, the fucking

1968
02:13:11.439 --> 02:13:15.279
pause with the arrow. I don't
want to spoil it. People. If

1969
02:13:15.319 --> 02:13:22.239
you watch the original resnual four Canieval
four, you know there's the infamous Mary

1970
02:13:22.359 --> 02:13:24.800
was at like so her health was
so low that you couldn't even see red.

1971
02:13:24.840 --> 02:13:28.119
It was just not on Leon's health
bar. And it was the elevator

1972
02:13:28.239 --> 02:13:35.079
up the castle tower and uh,
Mary had paused the game, or rather

1973
02:13:35.159 --> 02:13:37.520
opened her at the shay case and
had a flash bang for a bunch of

1974
02:13:39.319 --> 02:13:41.439
ganados that had just transformed. And
I was like, okay, just throw

1975
02:13:41.479 --> 02:13:43.399
it right at your feet. You'll
kill a bunch of them and then you

1976
02:13:43.399 --> 02:13:46.439
could hopefully they drop healing, and
she, of course unpaused, threw it

1977
02:13:46.520 --> 02:13:50.319
over the edge, so it did
nothing. Uh there's there's a moment in

1978
02:13:50.840 --> 02:13:56.359
the remade version of that episode,
as it were, where something very funny

1979
02:13:56.359 --> 02:13:58.199
happens as well. But yeah,
go watch that. It's again there's no

1980
02:13:58.279 --> 02:14:03.600
set schedule, but we've been putting
up on Firescapes YouTube channel, which if

1981
02:14:03.640 --> 02:14:09.920
you're a videotier patron you already follow
probably. Yeah, that was episode seventy

1982
02:14:09.920 --> 02:14:16.279
five, try three cores, three
core anal quarter aennial. Yeah, it's

1983
02:14:16.359 --> 02:14:20.720
been I'm not going to be here
next episode almost positive, So we'll have

1984
02:14:22.720 --> 02:14:26.479
we'll we'll reveal the plan per guests. Yeah, we'll announce it once it's

1985
02:14:26.520 --> 02:14:31.640
going up and yeah, just the
next I would say month, you know,

1986
02:14:31.640 --> 02:14:33.920
once we get into like mid April
again, it's like three Wrestomania,

1987
02:14:35.000 --> 02:14:37.880
GDC other stuff. Uh, it
might be a little walkye, and we

1988
02:14:37.920 --> 02:14:41.920
don't quite know what the plan is
yet, but we will put out episodes

1989
02:14:41.039 --> 02:14:46.319
with at least one of us on
it and some guests, so stay tuned.

1990
02:14:46.479 --> 02:14:48.520
Yeah, let's say next three episodes. Maybe four should be some fun

1991
02:14:48.560 --> 02:14:52.800
combos, maybe three should should do
it. But uh, as always,

1992
02:14:52.800 --> 02:14:56.960
we appreciate it by listening in watching
come to hang out. We will see

1993
02:14:56.000 --> 02:14:58.840
you well, Mary and Dan will
see you in a couple of weeks on

1994
02:14:58.880 --> 02:15:31.880
apisode seventy six. See you then
bye,