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money in it now. I Billy
Cunningham to grant American, and I hope

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you had a wonderful or fourth of
July long weekend as I did. So

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many Americans don't want to work Friday. People are off, Saturday off,

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Sunday off, Monday off, Tuesday
off, probably off today. But one

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man that is working is a state
representative. Bill Sites of the Ohio House

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and Bill Sites, welcome again to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of

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all, let's deal generically. Bill
Sites. It's great to have you on

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because you're the conscience and the dean
of the Ohio Legislature. But before we

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get there, I watched over the
weekend with Taylor Swift Friday and Saturday.

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Reds Baseball Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I watched FC Tay New England whatever,

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Robert Craft's team, and I watched
three hundred thousand people come downtown on

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Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. And I watched no problems. There

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were no mass shootings, there were
no significant police runs of three hundred thousand

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people. You're in this town,
You're in a big law firm here,

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You've been a state rep and senator
for about twenty five years. Did you

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have a sense of pride in the
fact that Cincinnati functioned and we had three

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hundred thousand people come down over the
Fourth of July weekend or more without any

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major incidents of any type. Well, I think that's a tribute to the

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folks who live in our region and
to the respect that we have or a

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good time and a good time that
is held in an orderly manner. Now,

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I don't consider Taylor Swift concert goers
as being likely criminals to begin with.

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They tend to be younger teenage teenage
girls that are fluting over Taylor.

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But still, in all, it's
great to have that many major events here

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without incident. Compares very favorably to
what we saw over the weekend in Baltimore

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and Sheldlpia and god knows where else, but you know, knock Wood.

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We've had our share of tragedies,
there's no question, but fortunately this weekend

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was a tribute to Cincinnati as a
sports town on the move and a concert

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arena destination place on the move.
So it's all good for good old Cincinnati.

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Before we talk about skiol choice and
all those other sexy topics, I

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want to get your take on a
commentary and also on some polling from NBC

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News that said, overall, thirty
nine percent of Americans describe themselves as extremely

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proud to be an American. But
when you break it down, it comes

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down to twenty nine percent of Democrats
are proud to be an American, seventy

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one percent of Republicans are proud to
be an American. When you break it

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down further, if you take those
between the ages of eighteen to thirty,

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eighteen to thirty year olds, one
percent say they're proud to be Americans.

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The answers eighteen percent, So eighty
two percent of this is NBC News,

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so they must be right. Eighty
two percent of those eighteen to thirty are

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not proud to be Americans. In
fact, only eighteen percent. What the

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hell is going on? Well,
look, Shount me among the seventy one

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percent of Republicans that are proud to
be an American, and I would say

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what is going on is our K
to twelve schools and our colleges have done

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a rather poor job at inculcating the
pay think values of why America is still

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desplight, its flaws, the greatest
country in the world. And we're trying

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to tackle that in the state legislature, first with a bill on higher ed

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reform that would tend to stamp out
some of the wokeness on our college campuses

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where students get a zero for using
the words biological woman on a test,

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and also a new bill that we're
looking at in strengthening our social study standards

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to make sure that we are teaching
the founding documents, to make sure that

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we're teaching the real truth about the
founding of America. It is not the

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sixteen nineteen project. It is the
seventeen seventy six project. And so we're

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doing our part. But I think
that's really where part of the problem was,

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is that so many young people have
not received an adequate grounding in our

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history, in both good and bad. But I think on the whole much

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better good than bad. And they
are not learning the biographies of the great

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Americans that preceded us. They have
not gotten a good job of understanding how

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America has saved the world in World
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we are still the guardian of the
world's peace and security. There's a lot

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of reasons to be proud of being
an American. I don't teach too many

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people wanting to leave the United States
and go somewhere else. I see millions

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of people clamoring to come in illegally
or illegally. We must be doing something

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right. Well, when when you
pass laws in Columbus, I think teachers,

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unions and a lot of public education
says, so what, because I'm

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gonna play later today. The comments
of law professor Erwin Schemerinsky. Now Schemerinsky

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has been he's been at UKL,
how about University of California at Berkeley for

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about twenty seven years. You can
imagine his viewpoints. And so when the

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decisions came out last week on affirmative
action, etc. Schemerinsky spoke to his

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class on Friday afternoon, and I'm
gonna play the tape, but he essentially

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said, now look, from now
on, and he's teaching his class from

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now on, it's wise not to
send emails, do not send a text,

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do not have any written memorandum of
any type of what we do here

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at u CAL Berkeley, because when
we're sued, we want to be able

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to say that we followed all the
laws, all the rules, and all

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the regulations. In fact, he
went so far as to say the following,

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which I'm gonna play later on.
That is, if I'm put in

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a deposition as the dean of the
Law School of UKL Berkeley, and I'm

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ask about why we're certain professors hired
and why we're some not hired, he

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said, you have to lie.
He said to his students, don't tell

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them why someone was hired. Don't
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on. To demosh straight that we're
proceeding differently than what the Republican courting column

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in Washington wants us to do.
So the dean of the law school,

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this isn't the engineering, this is
the law school teaching constitutional law. Don't

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put anything in writing. So when
the bill cites is he didn't say this.

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When the bill cites is of this
world, change the law and require

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us to teach things and laws go
about American values. We're not going to

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do it, but we're going to
testify that we did. So how do

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you overcome how do you overcome that? Well, look, bill that that

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is a problem. I mean,
I've seen this time and again. We

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pass good law. The question then
is how will they be enforced, how

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will they be how will they be
adopted? It often takes time for the

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word to get out that the law
has changed. I'll give you an example.

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Just last year, I finally succeeded
after five years how to bill that

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legalized fireworks, And it took a
while for the word to get out.

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But last night fireworks started the entire
styline. So I'm proud of that.

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But it takes time for the word
to get out. And if professors are

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going to be practitioners of civil disobedience
and not follow the laws we pass,

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I don't know what the answer is. Because we can only do so much

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as ninety nine state reps and thirty
three senators and one governor. We have

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to hope that the public itself will
rise up in opposition and h and begin

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to spill the beans on what some
of these folks in higher academia are actually

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up to. You saw it a
few months ago where the Stanford Law School

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students booed off the stage a prominent
federal judge, and then the dean of

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a law school chastised the federal judge
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I mean, we need to have
civil discourse in this country, and all

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points of view must be respected and
listen to, and people I would have

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never dreamed in law school nor jew
of booing a guest speaker regardless of their

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point of view. You wouldn't have
done that at the University of Toledo.

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I wouldn't have done that at the
University of Cincinnati. But now these kids

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think they're they're a law into themselves. I guess you know. I'm just

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looking at a statistic today, Bill
to talk about how great America is.

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This is from the Census Bureau.
From nineteen eighty to twenty twenty one,

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the income of black females has gone
up ninety seven point seven percent. The

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income of black males has gone up
thirty three point six percent, and the

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income of white males has gone up
only thirteen point two percent. White females

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have gone up one hundred point eight
percent. Sure, we have flaws in

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this country, but when you look
at those facts from our own Census Bureau,

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you'll see that we're making progress for
black Americans, for female Americans.

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This is something to celebrate. We
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I want to go, I want
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the Berkeley Law School dean Erwin Schemerinsky
said that they will secretly enact a policy

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of racial discrimination and faculty hiring and
students selection, which is illegal in California,

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now illegal in the entire country.
He said, quote, if I'm

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ever deposed, I'm going to deny. I said this to you, quote

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unquote. So you you have the
leader of the law school saying that I

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will lie under oath to federal judges. Sound like Bill Clinton, because we're

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going to ignore the law. Now. Also at o nu Ohio Northern University,

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A to Ohio not exactly a bastion
I thought of liberal thought, Professor

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Scott Gerber was perp walked out of
his quote constitutional law class by two armed

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agents of the law school at the
Ohio Northern and coompanied by two eight to

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police department officials because and taken to
the dean's office. And so Scott Garber,

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who's sixty two years old, been
there twenty two years, thought,

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you know, is there an active
shooter on campus? Or is my wife

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dead? And when he got to
the dean's office, he was given his

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walking papers because he had written a
column for Hill dot com in Washington,

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and also it was excerpted in the
Wall Street Journal that law schools and colleges

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need more diversity of opinion, that
d EI is important, but we need

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diversity of opinion. And he was
fired because of lack of collegiality. So

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we're not talking about Berkeley, Bill
Sites, who controls the house with an

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iron grip. We're talking about Ohio
Northern University. Your comments, yep,

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I heard, I heard. I
heard your segment with that professor a week

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or so ago. And what happened
to him is inexcusable and unforgivable. And

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I hope he sues and gets his
job back. But intolerance on college campuses

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is unfortunately a fact of life.
The liberal left seems to be willing to

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silence any views except their own and
punish those who express an opposing view.

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That really is a shame, and
that's what we're trying to get to the

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bottom of. One of the things
we just put in the budget we just

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passed is to create five new centers
of Constitutional Excellence, encouraging the diversity of

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opinion at five schools in Ohio,
Cleveland State, Ohio State, University of

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Cincinnati, Miami, and Toledo.
We are setting up five new institutes at

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a cost of a couple of million
dollars a pop, just to encourage that

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very diversity of opinion that the Ohio
Northern professor so eloquently addressed. If these

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laws are ignored by Ohio Northern University, which God bless them, not exactly

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the Harvard of the Midwest. But
if I could have gotten there when I

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was going to law school, I
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rejected man. I think Toledo is
the only one. It took me.

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I would have done it. But
I can't imagine those who run Ohio Northern

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is going to ignore what you're doing. They don't care about what Columbus says.

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They couldn't care less well, I
have Northern apparently as a private school,

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so our ability to control them is
more limited than what we have over

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the public universities like you see in
Miami and Ohio states. So what can

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I say? But eventually, Bill, you gotta hope that right minded people,

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the people of that seventy one percent
of Republicans who still believe America is

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a great country, will vote with
their feet say I don't want to go

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someplace where my freedom to express a
contrary opinion is so ruthlessly suppressed. And

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ultimately that's got to be That's got
to be the answer. People. We

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need to get the word out when
these incidents happen, and then people need

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to vote with their feet and say
I'm not going to go there, where

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to go? I'm to go somewhere. If you can't go to y our

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Northern you can't go anywhere. Well
you know there there I you know,

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what can I say? There are
there are some colleges that still I mean,

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we have George Mason University, we
have Hillale College. There are a

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few beacons of conservative thought in the
college world, but not many. And

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I still think that setting up these
five new centers of constitutional good lu Diversity

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of opinion is a good thing we're
doing and hopefully that'll catch on and the

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world will get out. And lastly, we got to talk about the budget.

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We got off on a bit of
a tangent. I think you and

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I could go round and around forever, only about a minute and a half

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remaining. Explain school choice. That
is, if your kids in the Princess

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School district, which is failing,
uh, you can you can get get

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your grade schooler or high schooler and
the state will pay to go to a

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good school. Please explain sure.
We now have universe school choice in Ohio.

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Everyone who comes from a family earning
less than four hundred and fifty percent

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of the poverty line will be eligible
for a voucher to attend the private or

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prochial school of their choice. People
who make more than four hundred and fifty

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percent of the poverty line will receive
a voucher as well, but it will

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be in diminished value according to a
sliding scale, so that the very richest

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people will only get a voucher worth
ten percent of the value of the base

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voucher. But everyone will qualify for
a voucher. That's a good thing.

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At the same time, the Ohio
House insisted on fully funding the K to

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twelve traditional public schools through the constitutional
formula that we came up with a couple

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of years ago. So there's something
in this budget for devotees of traditional K

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to twelve schools and something in the
budget for devotaes of school choice. The

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problem with school choice, and I'm
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that we are very fortunate here in
Hamilton County to have so many in parochial

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schools. When you get into rural
Ohio and southeast Ohio, there are no

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sins this is and that's to go
to. So in a way, we've

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kind of created a bit of a
false promise for the folks that live in

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those counties where there simply are no
private or parochial schools to go to.

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So you say, well, okay, we'll develop them and we'll spring them

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up. Yes, but then we
have to be sure that they're run by

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honorable people and they're not being run
by a bunch of grifters, because we

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had that problem in years gone by
with the charter schools, where some of

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them were lacking in proper accountability and
financial controls. And then we had to

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come back and correct for that.
But school choice is a good thing,

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and back to our main conversation,
this is one way of ensuring that there

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will be choice in where you send
your kids to school. You know,

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I mean, I believe in traditional
public schools. I believe in school choice.

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My kids went to Saint x and
say Nantoninis. I went to Covidale

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Elementary and Western Hills High School.
I believe in education for everybody, but

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I also believe different strokes for different
folks. And so as long as we

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continue to fund the traditional K to
twelve schools fully and also fund the parochial

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schools through the voucher program, we're
gonna have something to be proud of.

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We're one of only eight states now
that have universal school choice. We became

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the eighth state over the weekend.
That's a good thing, and it's the

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statistics show, by the way,
that the Catholic schools that remained open during

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COVID to a greater extent than the
public schools did are not having this terrible

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fall off in math and English scores
that we're seeing in the traditional public schools.

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So the Catholic option worked during COVID
we got to run Bill Sites once

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again from Columbus. But when deans
of law school suborne perjury loudly and proudly,

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it's chaos us and we're in trouble
once again. Bill Sites Representative,

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thank you for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show. There's glorious Wednesday afternoon.

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Thank you, Yeah, celebrate our
birthday. Thanks Billy Yeah, and buzus

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America. Let's continue with more your
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