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you had a wonderful or fourth of July long weekend as I did. So
many Americans don't want to work Friday. People are off, Saturday off,
Sunday off, Monday off, Tuesday off, probably off today. But one
man that is working is a state representative. Bill Sites of the Ohio House
and Bill Sites, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of
all, let's deal generically. Bill Sites. It's great to have you on
because you're the conscience and the dean of the Ohio Legislature. But before we
get there, I watched over the weekend with Taylor Swift Friday and Saturday.
Reds Baseball Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I watched FC Tay New England whatever,
Robert Craft's team, and I watched three hundred thousand people come downtown on
Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. And I watched no problems. There
were no mass shootings, there were no significant police runs of three hundred thousand
people. You're in this town, You're in a big law firm here,
You've been a state rep and senator for about twenty five years. Did you
have a sense of pride in the fact that Cincinnati functioned and we had three
hundred thousand people come down over the Fourth of July weekend or more without any
major incidents of any type. Well, I think that's a tribute to the
folks who live in our region and to the respect that we have or a
good time and a good time that is held in an orderly manner. Now,
I don't consider Taylor Swift concert goers as being likely criminals to begin with.
They tend to be younger teenage teenage girls that are fluting over Taylor.
But still, in all, it's great to have that many major events here
without incident. Compares very favorably to what we saw over the weekend in Baltimore
and Sheldlpia and god knows where else, but you know, knock Wood.
We've had our share of tragedies, there's no question, but fortunately this weekend
was a tribute to Cincinnati as a sports town on the move and a concert
arena destination place on the move. So it's all good for good old Cincinnati.
Before we talk about skiol choice and all those other sexy topics, I
want to get your take on a commentary and also on some polling from NBC
News that said, overall, thirty nine percent of Americans describe themselves as extremely
proud to be an American. But when you break it down, it comes
down to twenty nine percent of Democrats are proud to be an American, seventy
one percent of Republicans are proud to be an American. When you break it
down further, if you take those between the ages of eighteen to thirty,
eighteen to thirty year olds, one percent say they're proud to be Americans.
The answers eighteen percent, So eighty two percent of this is NBC News,
so they must be right. Eighty two percent of those eighteen to thirty are
not proud to be Americans. In fact, only eighteen percent. What the
hell is going on? Well, look, Shount me among the seventy one
percent of Republicans that are proud to be an American, and I would say
what is going on is our K to twelve schools and our colleges have done
a rather poor job at inculcating the pay think values of why America is still
desplight, its flaws, the greatest country in the world. And we're trying
to tackle that in the state legislature, first with a bill on higher ed
reform that would tend to stamp out some of the wokeness on our college campuses
where students get a zero for using the words biological woman on a test,
and also a new bill that we're looking at in strengthening our social study standards
to make sure that we are teaching the founding documents, to make sure that
we're teaching the real truth about the founding of America. It is not the
sixteen nineteen project. It is the seventeen seventy six project. And so we're
doing our part. But I think that's really where part of the problem was,
is that so many young people have not received an adequate grounding in our
history, in both good and bad. But I think on the whole much
better good than bad. And they are not learning the biographies of the great
Americans that preceded us. They have not gotten a good job of understanding how
America has saved the world in World War One and World War two, how
we are still the guardian of the world's peace and security. There's a lot
of reasons to be proud of being an American. I don't teach too many
people wanting to leave the United States and go somewhere else. I see millions
of people clamoring to come in illegally or illegally. We must be doing something
right. Well, when when you pass laws in Columbus, I think teachers,
unions and a lot of public education says, so what, because I'm
gonna play later today. The comments of law professor Erwin Schemerinsky. Now Schemerinsky
has been he's been at UKL, how about University of California at Berkeley for
about twenty seven years. You can imagine his viewpoints. And so when the
decisions came out last week on affirmative action, etc. Schemerinsky spoke to his
class on Friday afternoon, and I'm gonna play the tape, but he essentially
said, now look, from now on, and he's teaching his class from
now on, it's wise not to send emails, do not send a text,
do not have any written memorandum of any type of what we do here
at u CAL Berkeley, because when we're sued, we want to be able
to say that we followed all the laws, all the rules, and all
the regulations. In fact, he went so far as to say the following,
which I'm gonna play later on. That is, if I'm put in
a deposition as the dean of the Law School of UKL Berkeley, and I'm
ask about why we're certain professors hired and why we're some not hired, he
said, you have to lie. He said to his students, don't tell
them why someone was hired. Don't give them a hook to hang their hat
on. To demosh straight that we're proceeding differently than what the Republican courting column
in Washington wants us to do. So the dean of the law school,
this isn't the engineering, this is the law school teaching constitutional law. Don't
put anything in writing. So when the bill cites is he didn't say this.
When the bill cites is of this world, change the law and require
us to teach things and laws go about American values. We're not going to
do it, but we're going to testify that we did. So how do
you overcome how do you overcome that? Well, look, bill that that
is a problem. I mean, I've seen this time and again. We
pass good law. The question then is how will they be enforced, how
will they be how will they be adopted? It often takes time for the
word to get out that the law has changed. I'll give you an example.
Just last year, I finally succeeded after five years how to bill that
legalized fireworks, And it took a while for the word to get out.
But last night fireworks started the entire styline. So I'm proud of that.
But it takes time for the word to get out. And if professors are
going to be practitioners of civil disobedience and not follow the laws we pass,
I don't know what the answer is. Because we can only do so much
as ninety nine state reps and thirty three senators and one governor. We have
to hope that the public itself will rise up in opposition and h and begin
to spill the beans on what some of these folks in higher academia are actually
up to. You saw it a few months ago where the Stanford Law School
students booed off the stage a prominent federal judge, and then the dean of
a law school chastised the federal judge for coming there in the first place.
I mean, we need to have civil discourse in this country, and all
points of view must be respected and listen to, and people I would have
never dreamed in law school nor jew of booing a guest speaker regardless of their
point of view. You wouldn't have done that at the University of Toledo.
I wouldn't have done that at the University of Cincinnati. But now these kids
think they're they're a law into themselves. I guess you know. I'm just
looking at a statistic today, Bill to talk about how great America is.
This is from the Census Bureau. From nineteen eighty to twenty twenty one,
the income of black females has gone up ninety seven point seven percent. The
income of black males has gone up thirty three point six percent, and the
income of white males has gone up only thirteen point two percent. White females
have gone up one hundred point eight percent. Sure, we have flaws in
this country, but when you look at those facts from our own Census Bureau,
you'll see that we're making progress for black Americans, for female Americans.
This is something to celebrate. We should not be denegrating our own country.
I want to go, I want to go nationally, then locally. But
the Berkeley Law School dean Erwin Schemerinsky said that they will secretly enact a policy
of racial discrimination and faculty hiring and students selection, which is illegal in California,
now illegal in the entire country. He said, quote, if I'm
ever deposed, I'm going to deny. I said this to you, quote
unquote. So you you have the leader of the law school saying that I
will lie under oath to federal judges. Sound like Bill Clinton, because we're
going to ignore the law. Now. Also at o nu Ohio Northern University,
A to Ohio not exactly a bastion I thought of liberal thought, Professor
Scott Gerber was perp walked out of his quote constitutional law class by two armed
agents of the law school at the Ohio Northern and coompanied by two eight to
police department officials because and taken to the dean's office. And so Scott Garber,
who's sixty two years old, been there twenty two years, thought,
you know, is there an active shooter on campus? Or is my wife
dead? And when he got to the dean's office, he was given his
walking papers because he had written a column for Hill dot com in Washington,
and also it was excerpted in the Wall Street Journal that law schools and colleges
need more diversity of opinion, that d EI is important, but we need
diversity of opinion. And he was fired because of lack of collegiality. So
we're not talking about Berkeley, Bill Sites, who controls the house with an
iron grip. We're talking about Ohio Northern University. Your comments, yep,
I heard, I heard. I heard your segment with that professor a week
or so ago. And what happened to him is inexcusable and unforgivable. And
I hope he sues and gets his job back. But intolerance on college campuses
is unfortunately a fact of life. The liberal left seems to be willing to
silence any views except their own and punish those who express an opposing view.
That really is a shame, and that's what we're trying to get to the
bottom of. One of the things we just put in the budget we just
passed is to create five new centers of Constitutional Excellence, encouraging the diversity of
opinion at five schools in Ohio, Cleveland State, Ohio State, University of
Cincinnati, Miami, and Toledo. We are setting up five new institutes at
a cost of a couple of million dollars a pop, just to encourage that
very diversity of opinion that the Ohio Northern professor so eloquently addressed. If these
laws are ignored by Ohio Northern University, which God bless them, not exactly
the Harvard of the Midwest. But if I could have gotten there when I
was going to law school, I would have done it. I think they
rejected man. I think Toledo is the only one. It took me.
I would have done it. But I can't imagine those who run Ohio Northern
is going to ignore what you're doing. They don't care about what Columbus says.
They couldn't care less well, I have Northern apparently as a private school,
so our ability to control them is more limited than what we have over
the public universities like you see in Miami and Ohio states. So what can
I say? But eventually, Bill, you gotta hope that right minded people,
the people of that seventy one percent of Republicans who still believe America is
a great country, will vote with their feet say I don't want to go
someplace where my freedom to express a contrary opinion is so ruthlessly suppressed. And
ultimately that's got to be That's got to be the answer. People. We
need to get the word out when these incidents happen, and then people need
to vote with their feet and say I'm not going to go there, where
to go? I'm to go somewhere. If you can't go to y our
Northern you can't go anywhere. Well you know there there I you know,
what can I say? There are there are some colleges that still I mean,
we have George Mason University, we have Hillale College. There are a
few beacons of conservative thought in the college world, but not many. And
I still think that setting up these five new centers of constitutional good lu Diversity
of opinion is a good thing we're doing and hopefully that'll catch on and the
world will get out. And lastly, we got to talk about the budget.
We got off on a bit of a tangent. I think you and
I could go round and around forever, only about a minute and a half
remaining. Explain school choice. That is, if your kids in the Princess
School district, which is failing, uh, you can you can get get
your grade schooler or high schooler and the state will pay to go to a
good school. Please explain sure. We now have universe school choice in Ohio.
Everyone who comes from a family earning less than four hundred and fifty percent
of the poverty line will be eligible for a voucher to attend the private or
prochial school of their choice. People who make more than four hundred and fifty
percent of the poverty line will receive a voucher as well, but it will
be in diminished value according to a sliding scale, so that the very richest
people will only get a voucher worth ten percent of the value of the base
voucher. But everyone will qualify for a voucher. That's a good thing.
At the same time, the Ohio House insisted on fully funding the K to
twelve traditional public schools through the constitutional formula that we came up with a couple
of years ago. So there's something in this budget for devotees of traditional K
to twelve schools and something in the budget for devotaes of school choice. The
problem with school choice, and I'm a big believer in school choice, is
that we are very fortunate here in Hamilton County to have so many in parochial
schools. When you get into rural Ohio and southeast Ohio, there are no
sins this is and that's to go to. So in a way, we've
kind of created a bit of a false promise for the folks that live in
those counties where there simply are no private or parochial schools to go to.
So you say, well, okay, we'll develop them and we'll spring them
up. Yes, but then we have to be sure that they're run by
honorable people and they're not being run by a bunch of grifters, because we
had that problem in years gone by with the charter schools, where some of
them were lacking in proper accountability and financial controls. And then we had to
come back and correct for that. But school choice is a good thing,
and back to our main conversation, this is one way of ensuring that there
will be choice in where you send your kids to school. You know,
I mean, I believe in traditional public schools. I believe in school choice.
My kids went to Saint x and say Nantoninis. I went to Covidale
Elementary and Western Hills High School. I believe in education for everybody, but
I also believe different strokes for different folks. And so as long as we
continue to fund the traditional K to twelve schools fully and also fund the parochial
schools through the voucher program, we're gonna have something to be proud of.
We're one of only eight states now that have universal school choice. We became
the eighth state over the weekend. That's a good thing, and it's the
statistics show, by the way, that the Catholic schools that remained open during
COVID to a greater extent than the public schools did are not having this terrible
fall off in math and English scores that we're seeing in the traditional public schools.
So the Catholic option worked during COVID we got to run Bill Sites once
again from Columbus. But when deans of law school suborne perjury loudly and proudly,
it's chaos us and we're in trouble once again. Bill Sites Representative,
thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. There's glorious Wednesday afternoon.
Thank you, Yeah, celebrate our birthday. Thanks Billy Yeah, and buzus
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