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Not five miles an hour riding to
his head. You hop it down first

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with the lump bonius face, and
on the very next pitch he up and

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stole second face with gretest be he
wasn't born he had? Yes, all

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right. Welcome to episode twenty two
of the Prospect B Sides podcast. I

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am Nate Handy joining me again the
rook Matt, how are you. How's

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it going, Nate? I'm happy, man. We're like, we're still

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in the bigs for another week at
least, you know, they say,

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getting to the bigs is one thing, but sticking around are a few weeks

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in a row. I know,
right, I kind of have a feeling

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it'll be short lived, though.
I think we'll be getting sent back down

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even maybe before the end of this
episode. I least. If it was

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weird being in the majors and not
talking about guys with an infinitesimal chance to

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make it out of the minor leagues, I know, right, like how

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to pronounce everyone's name really well and
everything like it. It was odd.

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But last week, if you didn't
listen, we we did some MLB B

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siding, talked about some dats that
don't seem quite popular but might have some

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fantasy utility for us in different formats
and what have you. And we're going

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to do a little bit of the
same tonight, but with some pictures.

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We plan on talking about a new
toy that a friend of ours made for

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us, and some interesting things that
we took away from that. I wanted

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to mention last week we had talked
about Miranda, right and then of course

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the twins signed Santana like the day
that I think I finally got this thing

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edited in out, So like we
had discussed discussed getting played, appearances might

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have gotten just as an infielder left
the situation, they added another. So

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that adds another little wrinkle to the
Miranda discussion. But I still have hope

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also too. When we were talking
about Jacob Myers Jake Myers, I had

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mentioned how I thought Quincy Hamilton might
be the next guy up. I had

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totally forgotten Matt about our twenty twenty
one Astros B side selection. Kind of

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the Corona is on, he's on
the forty man, so I would put

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him as the next young outfielder that
might get a look there if Myers can't

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take it. We know Corona plays
a really good center field. So I

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just wanted to mention those couple of
things and correct myself there. But yeah,

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there was a trade this week between
one of your favorite clubs and your

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favorite club. Well, I think
we're kind of in there. We're kind

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of in the middle of like a
separation, probably leading towards divorce sort of

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thing. Well, I was curious
what your thoughts were on that one.

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I had a lot of thoughts about
the Santos Burroa and Delo trade. It's

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the pick sixty nine trade, But
that is a nice in that way.

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I do think that Jerry and Justin
for the Mariners to put on and Hollider,

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they've done a pretty good job putting
a roster together with the ownership limitations

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that were seemingly surprised imposed on them
after the season this year. And while

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that is a huge bummer in and
of itself, like having this incredible core

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of pictures Julio plus some other star
quality major leaguers and an obviously flawed roster

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that you could throw some money at
and turn into a perennial, you know,

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five year window kind of contender,
it's a bummer that ownership didn't want

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to do that, and wanted to
kind of cheap it out, but Jerry's

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mostly done a pretty good job around
the edges. And I do like this

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trade in the if they think that
Santos is going to help them this year

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and next, they sold a little
bit of future value to do that,

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right, Like the White Sox are
gonna win this trade on net present war,

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right, Like, even though it's
a five year contract, he's a

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reliever. Maybe he's good for a
year or two, But this is like

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if Santos earns the Mariners five war
over the next five years, Like,

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that's probably pretty good. And I
think that Barrowa has a chance to be

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exactly the same as Santos, Like
that's a non zero chance. Deluxe is

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probably like a fringe fourth replacement platoon
outfielder. It'll accrue some more. And

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then Pick sixty nine is like a
pretty good pick, not just the pick

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itself, but the like million plus
that it adds to their bonus pool.

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So all that said, for that
to be a good pick, that implies

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that the White Sox do something worthwhile
with it. Though, well, setting

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that aside, you know they've got
a new regime, right, maybe they'll

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the guy from the office in the
Hall is going to do a better job.

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They do not have a new regime. I think that it's I like

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what it says about the Mariners actually
do realize that they I've got a really

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good team and they are trying as
best they can to put the best product

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on the field. And Santos is
an interesting case in and of himself.

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Is like a guy that was a
fireballer reliever, a guy that, like

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I think I never would have liked
as a prospect coming up, just because

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he had control issues and was a
reliever, and those guys are so volatile.

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But it's interesting that his last year
was so solid, you know,

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didn't give up any homers, and
I think that that appears to be a

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skill of his. Kept the ball
in the ground a lot, struck guys

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out quite well, and then,
of course for him most importantly, kept

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the walks down. And I don't
know if you saw this or in any

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of the reporting about the trade,
but Santos now projects as like one of

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the top three relievers in all of
baseball, just he did so much in

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that one year and the computers seemed
to be buying it. It's not like

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this was an overperformance sort of year
that the computers aren't buying. The projection

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systems are saying zips especially, but
all of them are buying him as a

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mid threes er guy. And you
know, striking out nine to ten batters

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an inning, limiting the locks,
keeping the ball on the ground, that's

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impressive. That's a useful reliever if
they're right. So I don't know.

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I think it was an interesting sort
of trade. My initial reaction was skepticism,

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but the more I thought about it, I think it signals something good

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for the Mariners. And I do
think that the White Sox got decent value

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too, Like I think they're going
to win the surplus war calculations in this

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trade. Yeah, I will admit
it was a gets trade that I didn't

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think was really just super lame.
I think the sentiment from the majority of

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Mariners fans that at least I have
seen chat about it. I think you

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might have been putting a little bit
of lipstick on a pig there, but

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I thought you made some really good
points. We'll see, man, We're

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I finished. I completed my first
first year player draft of the year in

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the medical one. I think it
went. I think, oh, I

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mean, we'll find out I got
some guys that I had wanted, but

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my competitive juices this time of the
year started started getting going. Man,

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we're a week into February. You
know, I used to be a guy

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before basketball games listening to Rage against
the Machine, and like, I start

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to feel that sort of like that
angst this time of year. So that's

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going on. And then our good
friend mister Clegg, I don't know if

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you saw, put out a little
tweet comparing or contrasting the Dodgers triple A

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rotation to the Rockies major league rotation, and man, I gotta tell you

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that to use a poke the bear
analogy that felt like a little bit of

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a flaming bag of poop thrown into
the den. There it got me going.

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I've issued a challenge to our friend. I'd like to podcast to fight

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him on this debate you. I
don't know if you've seen this or aware

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of this, but I need to
look it up. I don't even remember

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who it was, but someone was
trying to start up like this podcast where

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like some fantasy people call each other
out have a little fun debate session.

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And I threw that out there the
crisp I don't know if he wants to

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smoke Matt, well, well bring
the smoke. What are you thinking here?

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It sounds like you're landing on the
side of your Colorado Rockies starting five,

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you're going to take them over the
Dodgers triple A rotation there, Yes,

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I mean I don't I want to
save I want to save my my

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fight for the ring. But yes, I do not agree with mister Clegg

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that the Doadger's triple triple A rotation
is better than the Rockies Major league rotation,

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the point being that it's debatable,
like that's says something about all right,

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I don't know, I don't know. There are some guys in the

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Rockies rotation that are that are good
for sure and have showed decent skills in

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the past. And of course pitching
in Colorado is miserable. It's so hard

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to do that. One just hit, just just poked a lout of my

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bears, Matt, your prospect thing
me feeling the need to defend the Rockies

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and all the bad narratives surrounding them. Like. I didn't mean to get

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into this too much. I just
wanted to put out here for eight listeners

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that I have issued a formal challenge
to mister Gotlin has been thrown, so

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we shall see if he responds.
Let's talk some pictures. Let's talk some

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MLB B side pitching. Matt and
I'll I'll let you go first. What

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do you go for? Right?
Again, I wasn't quite sure how deep

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we wanted to go, and I
kind of selected my guys that I wanted

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to talk about across the spectrum of
fantasy of relevant pictures. There are a

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couple of guys that I wanted to
touch on that are probably like twelve team

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mixed relevant, like really shallow leagues, and then a couple of them that

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are, you know, your deeper
leagues you should consider someone as a streamer

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or maybe something a little more.
And then a couple for our super deep

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thirty team, like anybody with a
pulse you should roster. I wanted to

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start a guy that I actually just
took in an FYPD. When I was

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talking about this a little bit in
the Dynasty Dugout discord, I mentioned that

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I was considering taking Steven Mattz with
my first round pick, my only first

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round pick in my thirty team first
year player draft. And again, it's

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not a true FYPD. As we
talked about, it's more of a supplemental

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draft. So this is where the
first international project prospects, the free agents

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that come over from Japan and Korea, the first year players from last year's

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draft, and whoever's left in the
waiver wire. They're all available. You

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can't pick them up and touch anybody
in the off season, but this draft

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you're allowed to swoop them. And
I had a kind of back after the

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first round pick that I had just
traded for and sort of as a throw

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in to another deal. And as
I was looking at the draft board,

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you know, we'd done a lot
of prospecting. We'd lined up a bunch

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of guys, have a huge,
long queue, mostly of first year player

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draft guys, and the name that
stuck out to me at the top of

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my board was Stephen Mattz. Like, if I'd picked fourth, I think

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I would have also taken Steven Mattz
behind the big three Asian imports. And

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when I said this in the dog
A discord, someone was like, you

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play in a league where Steven Mattz
is relevant and I was like, yeah,

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I mean a this is a thirty
teen points league, so any pitcher

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that has a job, they're relevant
and worth rostering for somebody. But b

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as the more I thought about it, like Stephen Mattz is better than that.

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He's actually in that tier of quite
good pictures that are underrated, partly

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because of injury concerns. And he
started the year pretty poorly last year as

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well, and I think that has
depressed his stock generally. But I wanted

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to talk just a touch about why
Stephen Mattz is actually quite good. He's

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spent most of the last three years
running a FIP of an almost identical three

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point seventy nine in twenty twenty one, three point seven eight in twenty twenty

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two, and three point seven five
in twenty twenty three. The bugaboo is

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that over the last two years he's
barely thrown one hundred and fifty innings,

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so like that's about half of a
normal workload for a starter. And last

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year in particular, his first half
was terrible, and then he turned it

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around after being demoted to the bullpen
and pitched quite a bit better in the

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UH in the second half for six' five era in the first half and

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in the second half it was two
point one six, and then he ended

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the season with a lat injury,
so maybe that's another component to him being

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sort of underrated going into this year. But he's got a solid pitch mix

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that I think he's got answers for
lefties and righty's. He doesn't have appreciable

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splits assuming he comes into the spring
showing some health. I think he's got

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a rotation spot on lock for the
Cardinals, and they've got a good defense

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that's a pitcher's park, so both
of those things helped him play up.

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I just kind of buy the skills
here. He limits walks, He gets

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a decent number of strikeouts in a
small sample at the end of last year,

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and then in his full year in
twenty twenty two, which again was

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also a bit of a partial season, he showed kind of a higher strikeout

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upside that he's approached before. But
he was up to ten strikeouts per nine

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in those two stretches, and I
think that that reflects that his curveball and

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his change up are good pitches that
he can get swinging strikes with that change

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up. He gets called strikes with
the curveball, and his sinker plays really

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well like he can get card strikes
on either side. Of the plate and

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those things are a little bit less
sticky than the swinging strikes, but it's

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these are plus pitches. And I
think he's also upped his velocity a little

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bit in recent years. You know, he was a bit of a fireballer

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early on in his career and then
the velocity has trended down. But I

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think his velocity on his two seamer
was back up in the ninety five I've

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ranged this year and that is pretty
good. So Steven Mattz, I think,

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is someone that if you've got ail
slots to burn, if you've got

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a kind of roster that can take
a flyer on somebody who might spend some

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time in the injured list, I
think Stephen Mattz is absolutely worth rostering again

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a late draft pick in your mixed
leagues. Certainly, I'm considering him in

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some NFBC formats in the later rounds
because I just think the skills seem to

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still be there and health permitting,
this could be a guy who runs you

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a three to seven er, potentially
better in front of the defense. If

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the defense takes a step forward for
the Cardinals like it has in previous years,

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then this is just a ton of
value in a guy that people are

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writing off that sixteen people pass seventeen
people passed on in my thirty team mix

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league points, and I just think
that is crazy when a guy has this

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kind of skills and the opportunity that's
that's upside for somebody that is I think

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under owned. Yeah, that's interesting. I don't think a Mats would have

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lasted that long in my thirty teen
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he was still on the board.
I mean, like I said, after

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Yamamoto, Imanaga and Lee, I
think that's would have been fourth on my

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board, and especially in the way
this format is set up, I just

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think he's thrilled to get him at
pick eighteen or whatever it was before we

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came on. I think it had
just come out a couple of hours ago.

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But I was had Nick Pollock's top
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He's slid in Matt's one fifty seven, with the first line being I

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don't buy it. So interesting he
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folks out there that are not not
in the Mats camp. But yeah,

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and in NFBCS he's going average draft
position of three to seventy one or average

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draft rank of three seventy one.
I think his average draft position around four

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eighty. So I mean again,
this is like more tailored towards some upside

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with a really late round pick for
you or a deeper league. But I

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just think the skills are still there
and Matt's is worth targeting. Yeah,

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No, I don't hate it.
You know, Like we have talked about

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several times before, doing this sort
of pitching B siding, there's a very

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different component to it than hitting.
Right, I think it's it's much more

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we can see a very unpopular in
fantasy arm go from obscurity to cy young

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consideration. We don't necessarily see these
types of bats jump from yeah or that

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sort of lack of popularity to almost
winning MVPs. Right, Pitching is much

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more wild west. I mean,
this is part of why pitching is so

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much better than hitting, because in
a lot of ways, anything can happen,

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and a lot of things like we'll
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I'm going to talk about like things
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the Cardinals. With my first guy
here, I want to talk about Zach

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Thompson. Who got twenty six years
old. He's got one hundred and one

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career major league innings. He's rostered
in twenty two percent of fan tracks leagues,

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which is less than Maddix Bruns,
McCary who we know you Love,

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Cole Wilcox, Sam Bachman, Jose
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six seventy four, ADP and NFBC
currently labeled the Swingman's six starter ish by

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Fangrafts. He has forty seven major
league appearances with ten starts. Nine of

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those came last year. Zach Thompson
is not without some pedigree. I believe

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he was a first round pick if
I remember correctly, several years ago,

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and in kind of Cardinals fashion,
maybe looked at by dynasty and fantasy owners.

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Is kind of a boring guy,
lacking that electricity and that big K

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upside That was so But I'm excited
to see the rest of Zach Thompson's career

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here if you just look at er
from the last couple of years his first

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two MLB seasons two point zero eight
in his first thirty four innings twenty twenty

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two, four point four to eight. His next sixty six innings in twenty

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twenty three. If you're just looking
at that surface sort of stuff, you

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might not be getting the whole story
here his whip too. His whip jumped

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from under one to one point four
to two. But I think there were

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far more meaningful improvements or maintenance in
areas in twenty twenty three than those drastic

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looking surface level changes. And I
watched a decent amount of Thompson as a

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prospect, and he was always a
little bit tricky for me because he didn't

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quite have the arsenal that got me
too excited, and he never really had

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the execution that got me too excited. Neither were really bad, but nothing

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really in either direction made me like
really want to kind of get excited,

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right, But he simplified things in
twenty twenty three, not using the sinker.

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Now it is good to little bit
tricky because he throws a slider that's

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labeled a cutter. But I think
that's like there's some play in there.

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Sometimes it's more like a slutter.
Sometimes he's throwing it more like a manipulates

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it a bit, I think so, I think so, But it gets

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kind of lumped up in stack cast
as a cutter. I think he kind

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of ditched whatever side of that that
stat cast was was calling more of a

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slider last year. By nature,
He's really a four seam fastball curveball guy.

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Curveball was always kind of the more
lauded. I think it got like

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sixties right as a prospect, but
just from a production standpoint, now,

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granted the usage was only seventeen percent. This manipulated slider slutter cutter probably his

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most productive pitch, definitely getting Chase, getting swinging strikes. His four seamer

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averaged ninety three point six, which
is just a smidge velocity wise below MLB

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average used that about fifty four percent
of the time. Curveball was twenty seven

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percent of time, And like I
mentioned the cutter slutter thing, there's not

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really a change up in the arsenal. But you know a lot of times

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you talk about like stuff plus models
and those types of things. The big

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missing point, right is the relationship
that the pitches have with one another,

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with which in my opinion, is
a giant part of the puzzle of what

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makes a successful pitcher. But I
think with Thompson there is I think good

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usage and pitch selection and sequencing with
him, and there's several instances in pitching

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history where a guy is simply changing
the sequencing totally changed the production of a

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pitch. You know, I think
we talked about Zach Graanke when prior,

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but the three offerings and the sort
of stuff plus models are all around MLB

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average. He ran a twenty five
point one k percentage, which is nicely

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above MLB average, which is twenty
one point six percent for starters and above

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the reliever's average of twenty three point
seven percent. His eight point seven percent

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walk rate is lower than the average
relievers and just a had higher than the

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average MLB starters. He runs a
nice ground ball rate forty seven point one

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percent, and then like as a
starter over his last ten appearances last last

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year, which is really his first
go at getting to start in the bigs,

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you know, he ran like a
four to three eight era over forty

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nine innings. He's struck out fifty
one the only fourteen walks. Guy hit

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a little bit, but nothing,
nothing too crazy. He might feel kind

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of really vanilla at this juncture,
but it might be like a vanilla with

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some chocolate syrup on top, Like
we like the sum of all parts kind

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of guys, right, and he's
got I think the weaponry weaponry here is

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fine. I think if there's just
a little bit of elite in his execution

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in command, which you know,
maybe that's just wishful thinking, but I

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think he could he could be really
good. You know, we talk about

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DL Hall types and Joe Boyles who
have these astronomical walk rates and you know,

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execution questions, and we're always hoping
on on better stuff there, improvements

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there, but we don't really talk
about these types too much. And what

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just a little bit of improvement can
do, I don't know, just kind

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of in my opinion, if that
happened here, I think you could be

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looking at an extremely valuable fantasy piece
with a nice trunk of that counting stat

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k love. The biggest bugaboo with
him is going to be limiting the hard

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contact, you know, which shocking. It's a huge issue for every pitcher

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in the majors. But you know, I think that could come with a

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little bit more tightening of the screws. Wouldn't be the first guy to do

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such a thing on the back half
of his twenties. I mean, we

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see guys. To me, the
pitching prime is like thirty thirty one.

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I mean, we see Merril Kelly
types get real tight and a lot more

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fantasy exciting, much older age than
Thompson here. And I don't think I'm

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the only one out there who thinks
Zach Thompson could get a little bit more

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exciting. I think there's something to
that. And one of the things I

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was thinking about as it related to
Matt's as well, is that I expect

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the Cardinals defense is going to be
better. It was rated pretty poorly last

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year. And whether it's a combination
of Victor Scott coming up and playing center

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field, Jordan Walker getting better,
a little bit less time of our buddy

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Alec Burlson out there. Even in
Arnatto bounce back, I think Edmund plays

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really good defense. There's room just
to see the batted Balllock swing back.

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Our guys way here and Thompson and
Matt's both might benefit from just that natural

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regression to the mean in a positive
direction. His three pitches like all Hubber,

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They're all like thirty thirty one percent
CSW, which is nice. He

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gets average to above average chase on
all three offerings. Like I don't know,

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he just lacks that super you know, maybe he's like a fifty command

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guy or fifty five guy, like
if you could be like a sixty,

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to put it in scouting terms,
I think he could be really good.

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I mean it wouldn't be the most
radical change we've ever seen a picture make

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over one year, but at this
price. I put out some I put

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out some Trey offers, some of
my thirties and stuff. We know the

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role is maybe questionable. I don't
know if he's maybe he earns the fifth

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starter spot there. More likely he's
probably going to be the next man up

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when someone gets hurt, and we
know that that's gonna happen, mm hmm.

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And that what else you got for
us? I wanted to give a

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shout to an old favorite of mine, under the radar guy who's coming back

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from injury. JT. Brewbaker,
Brew Baker. I have dated brew Baker

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several times, all sorts of leads. Is he bad? Is he hurt?

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I don't remember he's hurt. He
had TJ in spring of last year

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during spring training, missed all of
twenty twenty three. Okay, but I

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was kind of on him as maybe
a semi sneaky breakout guy going into twenty

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twenty three, so I was really
bummed. I had him in an N

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only league and in a deeper dynasty
league as somebody that I got essentially for

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free. In both spots, he's
a sinker slider guy primarily, but his

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curveball is sneaky pretty good, and
he'll mix in a four seam and a

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change up, neither of which I
think is particularly effective, but both show

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flashes, both just being a different
look than his sinker slider primary approach,

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but also I think when he locates
them well, they can play up fine

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enough. His four seam fastball is
actually sort of interesting, and then it

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gets a lot more horizontal run the
average four seam. I have seen a

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bit of weak contact come off of
that. Now, could they tweak it

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so that it maybe it was even
more effective? Probably? But I like

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Rubaker overall. He's pretty good at
maximizing that his portfolio, and he's been

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in the course over three hundred and
fifteen and two thirds innings in his major

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league career, has run a twenty
three percent strikeout rate and a sub eight

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percent walk rate, so both better
than average. I guess the rate's kind

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of like right about average, maybe
just a Hairover for starters, but the

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walk rate is better than big league
average and a solid fifteen point five percent

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K minus BB over his career.
He also gets a decent number of grounders.

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You might like to see him get
a few more. He's been right

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at forty four percent, and that's
what he was in twenty twenty two.

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But he looked pretty good in that
spring training before he got hurt. And

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he's I think almost twelve months removed
TJ, So he's ten months removed right

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now from TJ. Likely to be
back in the middle like May I think

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is his estimated recovery timeline, and
he's going nine to seventy five is his

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average draft rank in NFBCS. I'm
sure you can get him for a song

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in your dynasty leagues. His average
draft is seven hundred and forty nine,

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so very near the last picks in
those drafts, and I like that in

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a in that kind of format.
He still the projections are a little bit

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soft on him. The bat hates
him for some reason. Steamer's the high

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projection at a four or five three
ARRA projection projections are projecting him to be

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worse than he's been over three hundred
innings in his career, more walks,

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fewer strikeouts, and I just didn't
see that coming out of him in the

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times when I had him and watched
him. I just like it as an

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injury bounce back that people have forgotten
about. I don't think he's going to

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be crowded out of that Pittsburgh rotation. Pittsburgh does have some really nice minor

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league arms coming up, but I
really don't see the need for them to

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push any of them. So,
like I would be sort of surprised if

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we saw a lot of Paul Skins
this year, I'd be surprised if we

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saw a lot of Jared Jones or
some of the other upper Miners guys.

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So I think Brubaker is going to
come back in May and get slotted right

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back into that rotation. It's sort
of a boring profile, but I think

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it plays. So brew Baker is
one like, don't forget about him in

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your drafts. If you need a
solid back end start throw, I think

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you could do worse. And as
an injured throw in a trade, I

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definitely would be asking after burw Baker
nice. I think brew Baker is very

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solid MLB B side arms selection.
Yeah, I know that he's definitely helped

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some of my team's different formats too
when he was healthy and he had some

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decent little runs. My next guy. To be clear here, I had

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Ryan Feldner cueued up to talk about
here well before this morning's events with mister

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Cleig. But I want to talk
about Ryan Feltner. And I know Colorado

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Pitcher could eliminate him from your consideration
in different formats, and I understand all

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that. But we talked pitch for
Oklahoma City. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I don't agree with that, but
we talk We talked about making some

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changes. Right here's one that I
think we got a little glimpse of.

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Feldner had a very scary injury.
I don't know if you saw that,

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Matt, but he got a line
drive back Adam and fractured his skull and

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put him out from what May middle
of May to end of September. He

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came back for two starts, which
was nice to see him come back.

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I mean, it was a potentially
life threatening situation. But Feldner's twenty seven

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years old. He's logged one hundred
and forty seven career MLB innings over the

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last three seasons. He's currently rostered
in five percent of leagues. I mean

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that, you know, that's that's
less than some of our B sides,

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less than Rockies pitching prospect Jordi Vargas. He's currently going to nfbc's ADP is

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seven to fifty one, currently labeled
the fourth starter in the Rockies rotation by

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Fangrafts. I've seen you little blurbs
and stuff that he'll be competing for a

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rotation job. I think Feldner's pretty
solid rotation piece heading into the season for

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the Rockies. His thirty two MLB
appearances, thirty one one of them have

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been starts. Twenty twenty two nineteen
starts, twenty appearances, five eighty three

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ERA one point four to one whip. You know, stuff that isn't going

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to help a lot of our fantasy
leads. Here twenty twenty three started,

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he got eight starts in before the
injury. Again big era, an even

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00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.480
larger whip. Right. But and
I heard Feldner talk about this too.

407
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It did seem to me and to
him that there were some really positive changes

408
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.559
starting before the injury. He felt
like he was on his way to a

409
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.599
breakout season, and looking at some
metrics you might see why he may have

410
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:41.039
felt that he went from a thirty
point four percent hard contact rate to nineteen

411
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.079
point five percent, which that's that's
top of the scale, that's ninety eight

412
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:48.759
percentile. Home runs were an issue
for him in twenty twenty two one point

413
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.799
four to eight per nine, fifteen
point four percent home run. The fly

414
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.759
ball rate. Well, the home
run per nine dropped two point four to

415
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.880
two, which is ninety eight percentile. The home run per fly ball dropped

416
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:06.880
to five point one percent ninety ninth
percentile. His weak contact went from four

417
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:10.880
point three percent to seven point six. Hitters pulled the ball thirty six point

418
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:14.680
one percent of the time against him. That's ninth percentile. Like in the

419
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.559
good way right, home run the
flyball right, that's an astronomy. It's

420
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.759
a fantastic five point one percent is
ninety nine percentile. Ground ball rate ticked

421
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:25.400
up a little bit, but I
think it was more than like him coming

422
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:30.440
up like sixty fourth percentile. Now
his arsenal, he's heavy slider guy.

423
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.880
Right, thirty one point four percent. Pitch that he used the most most

424
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.440
performance wise, it's not that great. Gets some chase on it, but

425
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.680
he doesn't get he doesn't get whiffs
on it. Part of the reason why

426
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:44.680
he threw it a lot is the
for seamer, both by stuff plus metrics

427
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.640
and performance just wasn't very good.
It was hard, it was firm.

428
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.359
On the season, it averaged ninety
four point eight miles per hour, but

429
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.039
it's just not a very good shape. He coming into the season he felt

430
00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:00.799
like his sinker was his best pitch. The sinker is not his best pitch.

431
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:04.640
He has since said that sort of
moved on from that. And here's

432
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.400
the exciting part, Matt and the
change that happens. When he was hurt,

433
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:13.279
he went worked out at the new
Rockies pitching lab. Yes that's true,

434
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.920
the Rockies have a pitching lab now. And that fastball he came back

435
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:20.440
with a couple more ticks on it. He hit ninety nine a few times,

436
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.119
which he had never done before.
It averaged let's see, so before

437
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:27.480
the injury was looking at the game
logs here, ninety four point one,

438
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.799
ninety four, ninety four point four. He came back, it averaged ninety

439
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.559
six ninety five and a half.
Of course you got later in those those

440
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.880
last few outings and he would dip
back down to his previous velocity. I've

441
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:43.000
heard him talk about how he believes
that those changes are real. He believes

442
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.880
that they're going to hold. So
long story short here, the biggest thing

443
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:51.480
that was missing, I think from
Feldner's arsenal was an effective fastball. And

444
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:54.920
if you're a velocity purist, he
already went from a hard fastball to now

445
00:32:55.160 --> 00:33:00.440
more top of the scale. He's
been talking about changing his plan of attack

446
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:02.640
to becoming more of a power pitcher. Now well, he put up great

447
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:07.359
numbers for fantasy purposes. I don't
know. I doubt it. I had

448
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:09.400
been stacked against him. Every bat
at ball, whether it be on the

449
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.400
ground, a line drive, or
a fly ball in that park is in

450
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:15.799
the bat at ball's favor. But
we have a guy who's gonna be different,

451
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:20.480
and I don't know, Let's see
what it looks like and if it

452
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:23.160
goes well, this is you know, an example of a pitcher making the

453
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:29.319
change relatively soon that could change a
lot of outcomes production wise. Well,

454
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.200
and again, not to harp on
the defense, but I think the Rockies

455
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:37.799
have the potential to have one of
the better defenses in the game. Running

456
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:39.799
out there, you know, Doyle
is one of the best center fielders and

457
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:45.720
best pure defenders just period out there. I think if you're looking at Tovar

458
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:51.359
and McMahon and Rogers, like that's
pretty good skill positions in the infield.

459
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.640
And they've got some other good athletes
to run out there in the outfield with

460
00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:00.000
Nolan Jones too. So I like
that defense. And of course it's still

461
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:06.200
impossible to play great defense in Colorado. It's the park is just way too

462
00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:09.239
big and the ball just flies way
too far. But I think those sorts

463
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:15.000
of things help incrementally, and you
might be surprised at the skills, especially

464
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.519
on the road for some of those
guys, some of these pictures, like

465
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:22.000
you're saying, I could definitely see
them playing up even more on the road.

466
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:23.840
Yeah. I mean, well,
for one, it can't get much

467
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:29.079
worse than it did last year pitching
wise, starting pitching wise for the Rockies.

468
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.840
I mean, if you can limit
hard contact like that, not leat

469
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:35.880
hitters, get out in front,
and not give up home runs, I

470
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:37.960
mean, you're going to give yourself
the best chances that you can in chorus

471
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.639
Field. So I don't know,
I know, I'm a Rockies fan,

472
00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:45.480
but I'm kind of excited to see
what this new look Feldner looks like and

473
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.159
if one of these guys can put
up some decent numbers, maybe decent enough

474
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.159
to help our fantasy leagues, you
know, Feldner will be playable. Every

475
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.480
starting pitcher is going to be,
you know, potentially on the table in

476
00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:00.119
a thirty teamer thirtyeen points especially,
so I don't know, we'll see,

477
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:06.880
let's go to another kind of deeper
league option. And especially I would say,

478
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:13.039
probably not that interesting for your roto
formats. But Wade Miley man,

479
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.199
he just keeps sticking around. Oh. I love that you brought up with

480
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:21.760
Miley. I thought you might because
he shares some things in common with your

481
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:28.639
your boy Mark Burley. He's got
a six pitch mix that he mixes pretty

482
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:32.679
well. Three of those are his
go to in his four seen fastball,

483
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.239
his cutter, his most used pitch, and his change up. But he

484
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:44.800
also mixes in a curveball occasionally,
and a sinker and a slider, and

485
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:47.639
his bread and butter for the last
few years has been the cutter. It's

486
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:52.320
the pitch he throws the most.
He has incredible command of It will come

487
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:58.199
into righty's we'll backdoor it to lefties, front hip it to lefties like He's

488
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:04.280
moved that pitch around and it is
his primary weapon in getting hard content or

489
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:08.000
getting inducing soft contact rather because he
doesn't miss many bats. He never did

490
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:15.000
even in his peak. Now he's
solidly in the six strikeouts per nine,

491
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.840
but he still can induce scround balls
only six percent last year, but fifty

492
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:25.320
two percent the year before, which
is plus plus. His velocity rebounded after

493
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:30.719
an ugly stint with the Cubs in
twenty twenty two, and you know it's

494
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:36.159
ninety, but it's plays because he
gets good movement and again has really good

495
00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:42.679
command. And I wonder if he
underperformed in some of his strikeout metrics last

496
00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:45.480
year. He ran one of the
lowest strikeout rates of his career last year

497
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:49.719
over one hundred and twenty innings with
the Brewers. But I wonder if we're

498
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.960
going to see that rebound positively a
little bit next year, because I think

499
00:36:53.000 --> 00:37:00.519
his slider shape is slightly different than
it has been in previous year and might

500
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:06.880
actually be a pitch we're throwing more. So he still is going to lead

501
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.960
with his cutter and change up and
then mix that four seam fastball at the

502
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:15.119
top of the zone and inside to
both lefties. And righties to get soft

503
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:19.159
contact. But I think mixing in
a few more sliders. I think currently

504
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:23.119
he tends to throw that about seven
or so percent of the time, and

505
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:28.679
I wonder if he bumped that up
to something like twelve or twelve to fifteen

506
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.039
percent of the time, whether we
might see an uptick in his swinging swinging

507
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:37.239
strike rates and therefore strikeouts because it's
a pitch that has more horizontal movement than

508
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:44.960
average, and especially compared to his
cutter, which doesn't move side to side.

509
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:47.559
It's much more of a downward shaped
cutter. That's how he gets ground

510
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.119
balls and soft contact. But mixing
in something that sweeps a little bit more

511
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:57.000
across the zone and out of the
zone as hitters are thinking, oh,

512
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.599
this is the cutter, and then
it's the slider that is down in a

513
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:01.880
way to a lefty, I wonder
if he might be able to get a

514
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.320
few more strikeouts with that. He
saw quite a bit of success in limited

515
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.400
show of that slider. It was
actually his best pitch I think by run

516
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:15.719
value per one hundred in a yeah, it was almost a little more than

517
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:19.920
fifty percent more valuable than his cutter. Now, obviously the cutter he threw

518
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.000
way more and so you might put
a little more trust in that. But

519
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.679
I think it's sort of a hidden
fourth pitch that he might lean on a

520
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.079
bit more next year. And add
that to the fact that he's definitely going

521
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:35.199
to get a lot of run in
that Milwaukee rotation, especially after Burns got

522
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:39.199
unceremoniously shipped out, and in your
deeper leagues, that volume plays, and

523
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:43.280
I think I'm just here to say
that while I don't expect him to be

524
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.079
a three one six, three one
four er guy like he's been the last

525
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:51.639
couple of years, I think it's
worth noting the performance even though the strikeouts

526
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.679
aren't really going to be there.
So you might get some quality volume here.

527
00:38:54.920 --> 00:39:00.960
Think for for one er over something
like a hundred in thirty one hundred

528
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.960
and fifty innings, and that's super
useful. So don't write off Wade Miley

529
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:08.960
just yet. I think there still
is some pitch tweaking that he can do,

530
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:13.679
and maybe that he's already started doing, and that that might lead to

531
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.840
continued performance as he continues to get
older, aging like a fine wine or

532
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.000
cheese. I guess that's better from
Milwaukee. I'm always down for some Wade

533
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:27.000
Miley love and what makes me love
him even more is, I think probably

534
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.599
his worst stretch of his career,
he decided to use on the Cubs.

535
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:35.599
He would love that. And this
is how crazy thirty teen points leagues might

536
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.079
be. In that but like Miley
was, like, legit my ace in

537
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.679
the thirty teen points League team for
a good stretch last year and that team

538
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:46.159
made the playoffs. Nice. You
can't do it with such types in those

539
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:49.360
Is that the show? Is that
the one that I'm in? No,

540
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.679
because that that league's tough, like
the pitching in that league. Man,

541
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.519
I was running out there ready to
start the year with Dean Kramer as my

542
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.559
ace, and a lot of people
love Dean Kramer. I like him,

543
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:02.280
but I I was not really excited
for him to be my ace. Right

544
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:07.159
all right? I want to talk
about a guy who I admit, after

545
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:12.920
I have dug in on him here
more, I traded him to mister Quagg

546
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:15.920
in RAS thirty and I regret it
now, well maybe I'll regret it.

547
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:22.199
But I want to talk about Johnny
Burrito, who, as a prospect back

548
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.599
in twenty twenty one, was very
much kind of like a B side ass

549
00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.480
guy, right, someone I knew
nothing about turned on and I legit was

550
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:35.559
kind of blown away and became very
much a fan. But I was just

551
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:38.800
too naive at the time. I
just thought, Hey, I don't think

552
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:43.440
this guy's stuff is good enough.
But of course I love the execution in

553
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.800
the command, right, Matt.
So I'm like going, I don't think

554
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:47.559
this. I don't know if this
guy has the stuff for you know,

555
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:51.440
no one's really talking about him.
You know, I'm not going to put

556
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.519
him out there, right, which
I no longer subscribed to such ideas.

557
00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:00.400
But Johnny Brito, it turns out, gets to the Major League and we

558
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:05.760
get to know more about it,
has like really good weapons, really good

559
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:07.519
weapons. I knew he could kind
of spin it. I knew he could

560
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:14.679
spin it. I know East West
game looked really good. He's really interested

561
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:16.480
me in a lot of ways.
So he's he's twenty five years old.

562
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:21.320
Last year was his first year in
the bigs. We got in ninety in

563
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.280
the third innings. He's rastered in
thirty percent of leagues, which is less

564
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:30.599
than Grisepho throwing Susannah barrierra, which
is kind of wild to me. He's

565
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:36.199
going like seven point fifty in NFBC
Vangrass has him down in the Triple A

566
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:40.239
currently labeled like the seventh sp but
he's behind several names I don't think are

567
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:45.920
a lot to make the rotation there
they happen behind. They have him behind

568
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:51.840
right now, it's Musgrove, Darvish, King, Pedro Avila, Randy Vasquez,

569
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.840
and then down in Triple A they
got Adrian Morejean and then Brito.

570
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:00.320
I know, yeah, he's gonna
get some run. I think, yeah,

571
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.760
yeah. I think they initially had
him as like their long reliever on

572
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:06.480
their point being, I think he's
in the mix. I think he can

573
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.840
win a job in the rotation.
If not, maybe he's you know,

574
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:13.360
sitting as their long reliever. But
there's gonna be some major league starts this

575
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:17.159
season. Now the stuff like the
stuff. Plus he's got a two seam

576
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:20.159
well, I don't know if they
call it a sinker. I think they

577
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.800
call it a sinker, sinker,
two seamer whatever. Now you could see

578
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:27.639
that it's guy. They had some
wicked life to it. But looking at

579
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:34.440
PLV pictureless stuff plus model, they
gave it a five point two, which

580
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.559
is pretty off the charts for a
two seane fastball. For a sinker that's

581
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:43.280
really high. I'm not the biggest
stuff plus guy, it's measuring some tools

582
00:42:43.280 --> 00:42:45.039
in the vacuum, you know.
Like we mentioned, there's there's a lot,

583
00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:49.599
a lot of other things I think
in play that are more so or

584
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:52.400
just as important, and I think
Brito's a great, a great example of

585
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:57.360
this. Like his curveball got a
five point four to one his change up

586
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.440
above average, which as a press
his change was labeled a sixty. It

587
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:05.800
was supposed to be his best pitch. The other pitches weren't graded out so

588
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:09.360
hot fifties and forty fives and things. He did get the sixty control and

589
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.280
command grades. There's also a four
seemer, but I think the four seamer

590
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.960
is far and away, I think
his worst pitch. But last year he

591
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.960
used the two seemer thirty two percent
of the time, change up twenty nine

592
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:27.199
percent of the time, curveball twenty
percent of the time, the four seemer

593
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.360
seventeen percent of the time. He
has some phlocity. His sinker averaged ninety

594
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:36.639
six miles per hour. What I
think Brita's biggest issue is so he's got

595
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.679
these these nice looking tools or whatever, but it's kind of like I got

596
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:45.159
a hammer and a chainsaw. They're
not really like tools that go together all

597
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:50.360
that well, Right, he's a
two seam change up guy with velocities at

598
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.239
ninety six and eighty eight. Like
I don't know, there's there's some sort

599
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.280
of like missing ingredient, I think, And I think that explains why his

600
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:01.239
very nice weapons. Folks they trace
the change up, they don't really trace

601
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:06.440
the other pictures. The swinging strike
rate's pretty pedestrian. Other than the change

602
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:09.719
up. His K percentage was nineteen
point four. So I don't know what

603
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:15.400
the Padres are gonna do with him. I don't really view the Padres as

604
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:20.280
a team that maybe I don't think
they have all the same sorts of resources

605
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:25.079
or pitching philosophies beliefs in some of
the quote newer school stuff. I feel

606
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:28.920
like they kind of just let pictures
go and do their thing more so,

607
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:31.840
but I don't know what do I
know? But there's a sixty command guy

608
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:37.599
here with really good weapons, and
you know Matt that that is like that

609
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.679
that's the two things that I don't
want to see married. But they're just

610
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:46.760
not driving together yet in his young
career. But Johnny Brito is extremely interesting

611
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.360
to me, and I think there's
plenty of stuff here to work with and

612
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:55.159
be a successful major league pitcher and
a successful fantasy pitcher. I like it.

613
00:44:55.239 --> 00:45:00.440
He's a guy I rostered in a
thirty teamer I want to say last

614
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:02.639
year, early last year, he
was someone that I liked what he was

615
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.360
showing in terms of inducing ground balls, limiting walks, and thought he had

616
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:12.079
a chance to be a depth starter. So I think he still is on

617
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:16.119
that path with the padres and Brito's
sinker with that sort of movement, that

618
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:22.559
sort of teeth twenty eight point six
CSW just doesn't really add up the change

619
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:27.960
up twenty six percent CSW. So
Meryl Kelly, I think, is who

620
00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:30.000
I was thinking of off the top
of my head. Okay, he's a

621
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:34.880
sinker change guy and has some success
with it. So you know, maybe

622
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.880
if you want to dream on adding
another pitch and the command tightening up just

623
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:42.320
a bit, you could see Brito
becoming a version of Meryl Kelly, and

624
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.559
that's a big leaguer for a long
time. It's more electricity with Brito,

625
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:53.000
though, next guy we're going this
is more like potential breakout into a top

626
00:45:53.039 --> 00:46:00.320
tier arm. This is a guy
who is getting drafted reasonably hot. You

627
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:05.639
know this is I think his average
position in NFBCS is two eighty three,

628
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:10.000
so, you know, not up
there, but pretty significantly better than anybody

629
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:14.400
that we've talked about up to this
point. But it's cutter Crawford. I

630
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:21.559
generally think in my approach to fantasy
baseball is that we individual analysts are dumber

631
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:25.880
than the projections. Like the projections
already know all the information that we know

632
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.360
and contextualize it better than we do, and the numbers that they spit out

633
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:37.159
I tend to trust, especially in
the projections that are an amalgamation of a

634
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:42.280
bunch of different inputs, and so
your ATC's or your fangraphs depth charts,

635
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.920
I think that those remove a lot
of risk from the equation, remove a

636
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:51.519
lot of biases, and help place
everything on a single scale that you can

637
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:55.679
you can use to help overcome your
own biases and make better decisions going forward.

638
00:46:55.840 --> 00:47:00.840
But there are always guys, especially
younger guys, that I think you

639
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:08.400
can see glimpses into the kinds of
significant leaps in performance that projections really struggle

640
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:12.639
to deal with. This happens all
the time. As we've talked about with

641
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:17.840
pitchers, but I think it's interesting
that the projection systems are so down relatively

642
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:22.960
speaking. On Cutter Crawford, after
having a really good kind of first full

643
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:28.400
year in the majors, he obviously
debuted in twenty twenty two and got you

644
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:30.400
know, quite a lot of run
seventy seven and a third in twenty twenty

645
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:36.960
two over twelve starts twenty one appearances, just a hair under nine strikeouts per

646
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:42.440
nine and three point three eight walks
per nine. But he had some bad

647
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:46.639
luck and pitched to the tune of
a five four to seven er and lost

648
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:52.000
his starting job early in the year. In twenty twenty three, ended up

649
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.320
getting it back, obviously, injuries
in that rotation and there were lots of

650
00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:59.800
opportunities for Boston in twenty twenty three, so he ended up starting twenty three

651
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:02.840
games and got another eight out of
the pen. Built up one hundred and

652
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:08.199
twenty nine and a third innings last
year and was very good. He had

653
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:14.280
a three to three expected ERA according
to stat Cast, a three eight FIP

654
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:19.199
very good. That's a plus starter, especially over almost one hundred and thirty

655
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:25.880
innings, and ran a strong strikeout
rate twenty five point six significantly above almost

656
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:31.679
the standard deviation above average, and
only six point eight walks six point eight

657
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:37.440
per walk percentage good for an eighteen
point eight K minus BB very good overall.

658
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:42.519
He also induced a few more ground
balls than he had in his previous

659
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:46.239
year, limited homers a bit,
and got a little bit of babbit luck

660
00:48:46.320 --> 00:48:51.679
and maybe a touch of left on
base sort of neutral left on base luck.

661
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:54.480
So his luck factors were kind of
some were positive, some more negative,

662
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:58.760
somewhere in the middle, and he
ran a four to zero four RA

663
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:02.840
I watched bunch of his starts,
though, and I think there's more here.

664
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:07.039
It might be that I caught some
of his better starts. But watching

665
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:10.880
the pitch mix, it seems to
me that he has answers for lefties,

666
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:15.920
he's got answers for righty's. His
command seems good to me, and not

667
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:21.840
just in the limiting walks kind of
way. Using what is a pretty diverse

668
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.320
pitch mix. He's got a four
seam fastball that I think gets good spin.

669
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:29.480
He throws it at the top of
his own a decent amount and gets

670
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.719
pop ups and fly balls, gets
out that way. I think it has

671
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:38.440
good ride on it. He has
a cutter as you might expect from someone

672
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:44.000
named cutter Crawford, and that is
a good pitch as well. I think

673
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:49.800
it has more vertical drop and more
horizontal drop than you would expect sort of

674
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.559
an average cutter to have. According
to statcast, he has a split finger

675
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:57.000
that he throws a decent amount.
I think the command of this one was

676
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.440
the worst. He would throw this
one and it would be way out of

677
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:05.280
the zone some seriously non competitive pitches
for his split finger, but it still

678
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.880
had some potential. It showed flashes. And then the pitch that I was

679
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:15.199
most excited about was his sweeper.
He threw didn't throw it very often,

680
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:20.559
only six point seven percent of the
time, but it was his single best

681
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:25.400
pitch I think significantly. So he
has a real feel for spotting this pitch.

682
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:30.440
Some combination of the way that he
threw it and the way he located

683
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:34.840
it, he got really good results. I want to see him lean into

684
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.679
that a bit more, maybe at
the expense of his curveball, which I

685
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:43.079
think it's hit a bit more.
I like the depth of his arsenal.

686
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.679
I like that he has solid command
of a lot of it. And I'm

687
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:53.000
also maybe betting a little bit on
the New Boston regime. Craig Breslo is

688
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:59.559
a really smart pitching guru, and
hiring Kyle Body is also usually a good

689
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:05.159
idea. I think that having all
of these different tools in the capable hands

690
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:13.079
of those kinds of craftsmen, I
am just solidly hammering the under on all

691
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.679
of these are projections from the pitch
models. So Cutter Crawford, for me,

692
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:21.440
as someone is like he's debuted,
he showed some success, he showed

693
00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:25.719
some wartz. I'm seriously buying what
he's selling and think that maybe the price

694
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:30.960
it's underpriced. I'd say for what
I think the potential could be here.

695
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:35.599
So Cutter Crawford for me is a
huge buy. I again, he's going

696
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:40.679
two eighty three in NFBCS around guys
like Michael Waka, Injured, Mac Scherzer,

697
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:46.599
lance Lynn Mackenzie, Gore, Edward
Cabrera, and for my money,

698
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:51.360
I'm taking him over all of those
guys, and then some of the guys

699
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.800
that are going just ahead of him, Seth Lugo, John Means, Rhys

700
00:51:54.960 --> 00:52:00.079
Olsen, todg Bradley, Emmitt Shean. I don't know. I think I'm

701
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:07.360
taking Cutter over all those guys with
the possible exception of rhese Olsen, just

702
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:08.840
because the park I think is quite
a bit better and he has a lot

703
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:13.159
of similar things to like about him
too. All that to say, I

704
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:17.039
just think that it's worth sometimes betting
on a breakout for these guys that are

705
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:21.960
like two and three years into their
career, and for me, Cutter Crawford

706
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:23.920
is one of those guys that I'm
most excited about this year. Man.

707
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:29.639
I admittedly have not paid much attention
to Crawford either coming up or in the

708
00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.599
majors. But you are not the
only one who likes Cutter Crawford. Mister

709
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:37.559
Pollock HadAM fifty five on his list. I gotta read that list. It

710
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.079
sounds like he and I agree on
a few guys. Yeah, there's a

711
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:45.239
lot to read. I wanted to
bring up Cody Bradford, who is like,

712
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:52.079
so not my kind of profile in
that I don't really love lefties who

713
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:57.239
can't spin it, and I think
that's probably going to be Bradford's maybe biggest

714
00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:00.800
question mark or the inclusion of a
third offering. But Cody Bradford, who

715
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:07.079
had a fantastic, fantastic year last
year in Triple A and the PCL which

716
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:09.239
has nothing to shake a stick at. But last year with the Rangers,

717
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:14.039
he got in twenty games, eight
starts. He's twenty six years old,

718
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:17.440
he logged fifty six innings last year, and he's rostered in ten percent of

719
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:22.920
fan tracks leagues Matt. That's less
than Freddie Tarnick, Noah Cameron, fellow

720
00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:29.199
Ranger Mitch Bratt seven hundred and forty
ADP in NFBC. Yeah, Fangrafts currently

721
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:31.920
has him labeled as their fifth starter. Probably true with all the injuries that

722
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:37.400
they've gotten that rotation. So some
MLB opportunity I think is in front of

723
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:39.719
Bradford here. But you know,
he's kind of your kind of classic soft

724
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:45.159
toss and lefty, and that his
four seamer average ninety point four miles brower

725
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:50.480
last year. I don't think the
fastball on the stuff plus models gets any

726
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:53.079
great scores or anything like that.
I don't think I've heard on a few

727
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:59.679
occasions some much smarter pitching folk than
I talked about some of its unique attributes.

728
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:04.360
Sometimes I think extension stuff gets way
overblown, but I think he does

729
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:07.519
have pretty good extensions, so maybe
that helps the ninety miles per hour play

730
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:12.880
up a little bit, but by
far his most used pitch used pitch last

731
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:15.800
year, fifty four and a half
percent usage, you know, not too

732
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:22.440
shabby. A ninety mile per hour
fastball getting thirty thirty two percent CSW.

733
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:25.599
I mean he's got execution on his
side. It's probably his biggest weapon.

734
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:30.119
Throws strikes at a high percentage.
You know. It's kind of interesting a

735
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:36.199
two pitch guy like this without a
lot of velocity getting a twenty two percent

736
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:40.079
k raid in the bigs. You
know, his walk percentage is historically low.

737
00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:44.880
He was five percent last year.
That's that's the top of the charts.

738
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:46.960
Granted the fifty six innings. You
know, as you might imagine,

739
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:52.079
there is some hard contact there.
Thirty one point two percent hard contact last

740
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:54.119
year, which is not great,
you know, scouting grade wise, this

741
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:59.039
is like a fifty five fastball low
VLO. I mean, we've we've seen

742
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.840
I don't know, maybe Tommy Romero
a little bit. I don't think it's

743
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:05.639
the you know what, he was
right handed, right, I mean it's

744
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.440
not the same, but like that, a low v low maybe tough to

745
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:12.760
square up. Maybe you getting enough
whiffs, but I don't know. Kind

746
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.440
of just an interesting guy to me, not really my style. But I

747
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:20.119
don't think I'm the only one who
who thinks Cody Bradford might be kind of

748
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:24.079
a unique situation maybe somewhat unique success
in the bigs. I love this shout

749
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:29.280
this kind of guy, I think
is so fascinating a low velocity. But

750
00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:31.239
I was kind of wondering that.
And I'm no expert on this. I'm

751
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:35.960
no pitch shape a pro changle expert
and all that stuff, But I was

752
00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:40.199
kind of wondering if Bradford's fastball was
one in which those models just don't really

753
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:45.400
measure well, Like, are there
some characteristics with it that are so different

754
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.719
that it doesn't pick up all that
well. I mean, I've heard people

755
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:52.440
talk about certain pitches like that before. Well, I do think there's something

756
00:55:52.519 --> 00:55:55.840
too. The farther out on the
tail you are of the Bell curve,

757
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:00.760
it's not linear, right, Like, if you're really far out on one

758
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:05.800
edge, it's not a linear progression
that it's that much x percent better.

759
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.360
So I think there's something to that
that, like it can look, it

760
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:15.760
can play up even if if there's
something particularly unique about the shape or the

761
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:21.320
trait, And for Bradford, it's
certainly the extension is part of it.

762
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:25.760
You know, his seven feet seven
point three feet extension is in the ninety

763
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:32.719
eighth percentile according to stat cast,
and despite having way below average velocity even

764
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:37.599
for a lefty, looking at that
heat chart on stack cast, like he's

765
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:40.199
just pumping this thing down the middle. It's not it's not good command,

766
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:44.320
it's control. It's like I'm throwing
it in the middle of the plate and

767
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:49.920
letting its spin and its extension play
up. And so I think I like

768
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.679
watching him last year. I was
I thought he was kind of paint in

769
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:58.880
some I mean maybe, but looking
at the chart on stat cast, like

770
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.880
by far, the high percentage is
right in the heart, like not even

771
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:07.480
in the shadows. Maybe it has
a slight tilt towards up in the zone

772
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:09.760
a little bit, like there's some
some of the heat markers up in the

773
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:14.760
zone. But that's a lot of
fastballs in the middle of the plate and

774
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:17.480
he's still got good results on that. And I think that that speaks to

775
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:23.039
the way his spin plays. I
think he's an almost perfect active spin guy.

776
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:27.280
So all of the spin that he
gets on that pitch is imparted in

777
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.960
the magnus force getting that backspin to
make it seem like it drops less on

778
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:35.559
its way to the plate. Plus
his extension, I think help it play

779
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:38.800
up. So his fastballs are getting
more pop ups, more fly balls,

780
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:43.519
more soft contact. I was looking
for this before, and it was right

781
00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:45.039
in front of me. But what
do you think is strike percentage on the

782
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:50.440
four seamer was last year? It
looked pretty high. Seventy two percent,

783
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:55.000
seventy five and a half percent.
That's that was really hot though, Like,

784
00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:59.360
yes, throwing this thing down the
middle, Like I wonder if a

785
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:04.320
little bit more command of that pitch, like up so that's not quite down

786
00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.639
the middle, whether that might just
talking about, you know, be a

787
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:13.679
starter. I do that fastball,
that change up combo probably would do quite

788
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:17.039
well against the righties, but I
think I think the lefties he might need

789
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:21.559
something else throw as a slider.
It was fifteen and a half percent of

790
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:23.679
the time, I mean through twenty
one curveballs too. But it doesn't seem

791
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:28.039
like he likes throwing that pitch either. His curveball. This is actually one

792
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:32.760
of the worst I've ever seen.
His run value per one hundred pitches pretty

793
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:37.360
good, is positive one, Like
if you have one per one hundred,

794
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:43.880
that's pretty good. His curveball minus
twelve point two. So this thing just

795
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:49.840
got annihilated eight seventy five slug.
That is so bad. That's interesting because

796
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:52.360
I mean, if I'm reading these
things right, his curveball got the best

797
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:58.039
PLV grade out of any of his
offerings. But I don't think that's really

798
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.519
dude, what's that It got tattooed? So yeah LV or no. Yeah,

799
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:05.800
that's a small sample. I mean
it was only it was only twenty

800
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:07.280
one of them on the air.
And you're right, he had a really

801
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:12.920
good year in h A. I
do wonder if that's a guy that might

802
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:17.119
because that's a really really good line
in Triple A around Rock. So I

803
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:22.519
do wonder if he's an additional pitch
away from being good. A guy who's

804
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:28.159
pretty good like that true active spin
and a good change up. Though that

805
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:31.960
means he's like a pronator, right, Like he's better at his wrist pronating

806
00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:36.480
over and so I think the breaking
balls can be a little bit tougher to

807
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:38.760
teach for those guys, you know, like think Bryce Miller or somebody or

808
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:45.039
even Brian Wlu like those guys with
really good pronation, good active spin on

809
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:49.719
their fastballs. I wonder what pitch
might work for him to get him to

810
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.719
have something maybe a little more east
west, or a weapon against same handed

811
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:55.840
batters. Well, when guys can't
spin it real, well, what's the

812
00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:00.079
what's the pitch? It's a cutter, right, Yeah, and maybe that

813
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.320
maybe that's the thing for him.
I'm fascinated. This is a great shout,

814
01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:06.360
Nate. I'm really interested. I
might see if I can get a

815
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:10.199
share on the cheap. Bradford's super
interesting and like, hey, you velocity

816
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:15.679
purest guys, how come this eighty
nine mile per hour fastball right down the

817
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:20.000
middle? People can't hit it?
Yeah? Man, And I'm on that.

818
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:24.119
I've started working on a study and
an article that I'm going to write

819
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:28.239
up. But we talked a little
bit about it, and Bradford might be

820
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:32.599
a great example to throw in there
where I think velocity just gets so overrated

821
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:37.480
as a measure of is a pitch
effective or is a repertoire effective? And

822
01:00:37.960 --> 01:00:42.679
I think we see this in prospect
reports all the time. We see this

823
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:47.480
in talking about big league performance of
particular pitches like Hunter Green is so great

824
01:00:47.480 --> 01:00:51.760
because he can throw a fastball over
one hundred miles an hour and isn't that

825
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:54.119
so incredible? I remember I think
it was the opening day start he had

826
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:58.239
had against the Braves two years ago. I think it was it. Maybe

827
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:00.079
it wasn't open to get It was
early in the year Green versus my Braves,

828
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:05.280
and Green just chopped the Braves.
But it was because he threw a

829
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:08.000
ton of sliders, and his slider
is really good. His fastball was still

830
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:13.719
getting hit and it was outs and
foul balls and stuff, but he wasn't

831
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:17.360
getting whiffs with his fastball, even
though it's over one hundred miles an hour,

832
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:22.079
Like you think, he threw like
twenty fastballs over one hundred. And

833
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:27.079
I felt this as a player too, that there were guys who could throw

834
01:01:27.119 --> 01:01:31.039
it ninety five ninety six that we
were salivating over there fastball, like,

835
01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:36.199
yeah, throw that fastball, We're
gonna crush it. Remember I can't remember

836
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:38.639
the guy's name there was. He
was the Friday night starter for Arizona State

837
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:43.119
one of the years that I was
there, and we got a great scouting

838
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:46.360
report on him that he loved to
throw his fastball up and in to righties.

839
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:50.199
He was a righty, and you
know, it was like ninety five

840
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:54.639
ninety six, but the thing was
flat like it wasn't to us. It

841
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:59.719
was not a special pitch. His
offspeed pitches were really good and it's come

842
01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.599
in with solid But I hit a
home run off of him and he because

843
01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:06.320
I knew what pitch he was gonna
throw, and when he threw it,

844
01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:10.639
it just looked so fat, like
it didn't move in an odd way.

845
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:17.039
Versus a guy like Preston Gimmet again
old shout from the University of Arizona,

846
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:22.960
who he threw from such a weird
arm angle and had such weird spin even

847
01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:25.920
though he was like a ninety to
ninety two guy in the fastball, that

848
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:30.719
pitch was freaking impossible to hit,
just the way that it moved. He

849
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:35.599
had really good backspin and a super
weird arm angle that was right over the

850
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:39.360
top. He had great commands too, but those things were more important than

851
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:45.000
the six miles an hour in velocity
separation between the two guys. And I

852
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:49.199
think that that's like been sitting in
my head for a long time and hearing

853
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:52.039
guys talk about, like we talked
about this a while back with Logan Henderson,

854
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:55.559
how I'm so excited about the way
his fastball plays, even though it

855
01:02:55.599 --> 01:03:00.000
averages ninety two, and we're talking
about in the Dynasty that I got Discord,

856
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:02.440
and somebody is poo pooing Henderson like
I'd be way more interested if he

857
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:06.880
was throwing ninety five, but ninety
two, like whatever. And then you

858
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:10.079
look at a guy like Tristan McKenzie, who also averages about ninety two and

859
01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:15.079
has one of the best fastballs by
run value in the major leagues, and

860
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:20.400
it's like, Okay, we're missing
something in this constant reflection or constant return

861
01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:24.760
to just talking about fastball velocity.
And I think even Chris Clegg shared a

862
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:30.280
chart about the expected whobar maybe the
results of the whobba against fastballs of a

863
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:35.880
certain velocity. And it is true
that the faster you throw, the lower

864
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:40.000
weighted on base of the balls in
play. However, I think that is

865
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:45.079
more of a correlation, not a
causation thing, because it is also true

866
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:49.800
that as fastball velocity goes up,
so too does induce vertical break and spin.

867
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.079
So the more like the faster you're
throwing all of the things equal,

868
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:57.639
the more spin you're getting on the
fastball, so the more it seems to

869
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:01.360
rise and fight gravity. And I
think that that's the thing that's actually important

870
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:04.840
about it. It's not that the
pitch itself is faster, it's that the

871
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:10.360
induced vertical break that you get is
actually the thing that's important over a certain

872
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:12.880
speed. I mean, I think
these things break down both on the high

873
01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:16.000
and the very low ends. And
I've been working on a study er aut

874
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:19.280
this and i think that there's some
truth to this, and I'm going to

875
01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:25.960
write it up. But I think
guys like Bradford and like Tristan McKenzie and

876
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:29.159
like Logan Henderson, like some of
the other b siders that we've talked about

877
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:33.199
that maybe aren't velocity kings, their
fastballs can still be plus to double plus

878
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:39.639
and can be like great bets to
be successful going forward. So I'm super

879
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.519
interested. This is another one to
I'm excited to follow. Like you can

880
01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:46.000
see in some of Bradford's underlying stuff
is when you throw ninety, it can

881
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:48.840
be a good fastball and it can
be hard to hit, but when it

882
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:54.400
is hit, it's kind of hit
harder than higher velocity fastballs. And maybe

883
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.840
but maybe that's the location piece of
it, right, Like he's thrown a

884
01:04:57.840 --> 01:05:00.199
bunch of fastballs right down the middle, Like if those are better located because

885
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:03.840
he didn't really have a homer problem
in the miners, like double a eleven

886
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:08.559
point eight percent homer for flyball,
that's like a touch above average, and

887
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:13.559
then in the PCL five point nine
percent homer for flyball. So again like

888
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:16.320
probably some luck there, Like he's
probably not a true talent five to nine

889
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.159
homer or flyball ratio guy, especially
with the number of fly balls he gets.

890
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:24.320
It's a noisy stat. And so
like, yeah, his basketball did

891
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:28.760
get hit a bit in the majors, but I don't know it's there's enough

892
01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:34.599
year for it to be pretty interesting. I'd say JP Frantz is another guy

893
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:40.480
that I had rostered in a super
deep league when he was in the upper

894
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:43.639
miners. I think he was in
like Triple A in twenty twenty one for

895
01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:46.559
the Astros, was having a lot
of success. Nobody was really talking about

896
01:05:46.639 --> 01:05:50.199
him. He's I don't think it
was on any prospect lists of note.

897
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:55.840
And he had a really great twenty
twenty one, striking out a lot of

898
01:05:55.880 --> 01:06:00.880
batters in the miners, limiting the
walks decently well and getting ground balls too

899
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:04.119
at a decent rate. I guess
it was kind of up and down he's

900
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:09.360
more of a flyball pitcher. But
France had a pretty great, I mean,

901
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:13.280
debut year. Got called into action
quite a lot for the Astros last

902
01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:16.480
year through one hundred and thirty six
and a third innings and ran a three

903
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:24.719
eight three ERA. It's another guy
who writy with a below average velocity fastball

904
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:29.440
in the ninety three miles an hour
range, but and he throws it a

905
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:31.840
fair amount, like that's his forcing
fastball. He throws quite a bit.

906
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:36.679
But I think he's another guy that
has like decent spin on his fastball and

907
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:43.440
has gotten solid results even given that
it doesn't look like a It's certainly not

908
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:45.719
a fastball that you watch and you're
like, oh my god, I gotta

909
01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:48.559
see more of those. But I
think he spins it pretty well and commands

910
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:53.599
it pretty well. He didn't get
many strikeouts last year in his first big

911
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:57.559
league season, excuse me, only
seventeen point four percent K's last year,

912
01:06:57.719 --> 01:07:01.360
But I actually think there's more in
the tank here, and I think he's

913
01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:06.480
gonna get more strikeouts, both on
the back of the high spin fastball that

914
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:12.280
he has, but he also has
a solid five pitch mix, throws cutter,

915
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:15.039
a change up, a curveball,
and a slider. I don't think

916
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:19.719
any of them are bad, and
that's like his curveball might be his worst

917
01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:27.320
pitch, but all the others to
me are plus to maybe to average,

918
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:32.320
And when you've got four average to
plus pitches, that to me signals that

919
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:36.800
there's a lot of upside there and
there are gonna be outings and years where

920
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:41.599
he can put it all together.
So I'm not gonna say too much more

921
01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:45.519
than that, just that, Yeah, he didn't earn his three eight three

922
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:48.760
ERA last year. His FIP was
almost a full run higher at four sixty

923
01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:51.880
six. His ex FIP was a
full run higher at four eight. But

924
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:58.880
I like the skills, and I
think there's significantly more strikeout upside in here

925
01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:03.639
than most rankers or projection systems are
giving him credit for. Given the strikeout

926
01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:08.159
rates that he ran in the miners
and the quality of the arsenal, he's

927
01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:12.280
another guy that the arsenal you might
look at the velocity readings and look at

928
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:15.679
the results and say like, eh, I don't know this is a depth

929
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:18.279
starter, but I think there's a
chance for more. This might be a

930
01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:23.439
solid kind of number three. And
I used him as a depth piece and

931
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:26.319
a trade, and I gotta say
I kind of regret it. I wish

932
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:30.840
he was one of the back of
the rotation arms in my thirty team or

933
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:34.520
where I had him. Yeah,
four forty six average draft position or average

934
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:39.960
draft rank, right around Alex Cobb, Wade Miley, and Joe Boyle.

935
01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:45.239
So an interesting group there, and
I think JP France to me, has

936
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:47.439
the maybe the most upside of all
of them. Although I guess if Joe

937
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:51.680
Boyle actually figures out how to not
walk fifteen percent of batter, maybe he

938
01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:57.399
has more upside. But JP France
is one worth filing away as a late

939
01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:00.920
dart throw. I'm curious. Did
you trade for it's away when he was

940
01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:04.119
still a prospect or had he?
Yeah, So let me ask you this.

941
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:13.039
Have you regretted trading away some prospect
bats or prospect arms? More bats?

942
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:18.000
That's I'm opposite. I have I
have traded away some arms that I

943
01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:23.880
wish now that I had, not
way more so than bats. Yeah,

944
01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:27.800
best one for me here. This
might be a little too wild for some

945
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:30.399
folks. Maybe not though, but
I want to talk about Ben Lively.

946
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:35.800
Oh, I like it nice,
So then talk about Journeyman here, right?

947
01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:43.039
I mean pull up his fangraft page
and he's thirty one. He's thirty

948
01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:45.800
one. He signed as older.
He signed away. Yeah, I know

949
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:49.039
right. He signed a one year
contract with the Guardians for seven hundred and

950
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:54.720
fifty k after he got in what
twelve starts with the Reds last year,

951
01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:59.960
Peer at nineteen games talking an ascension
to the bigs and a trip to Korea

952
01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:03.760
coming back. You can look at
all there's so many. There's so many,

953
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:09.680
like just just surface. Yeah,
yeah, there's different like sometimes you

954
01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:12.720
walked a lot of guys. Sometimes
he did and sometimes he struck. Like

955
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.479
all that stuff. It's all over
the place. Right, Let's I just

956
01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:17.920
kind of want to make it simple
here. I watched Lively last year for

957
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:23.119
his His first handful of starts were
really really good, and most of his

958
01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:26.159
starts were pretty good. He had
a blow up outing where he gave up

959
01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:29.960
thirteen runs they must have just hung
him out to dry and then seven runs.

960
01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:31.680
But other than that, every other
outing, I mean it was very

961
01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:38.520
competitive. Did not put Zero's up
put decent on the scoreboard. Fastball slider.

962
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:42.680
The slider is his best pitch.
I think he up the usage of

963
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:46.039
it as the season progressed. He
used it twenty three and a half percent

964
01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:49.439
of the time. His four seamer
he used thirty two percent of the time.

965
01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:54.680
There was a sinker as well,
so those were his three main offerings.

966
01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:57.159
He used the sinker twenty two percent
of the time, change up,

967
01:10:57.199 --> 01:11:00.800
curveball, cutter thrown in, but
whatever sliderduced well for seamer did not.

968
01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:04.920
But what drew me to him,
Matt was I just happened to throw on

969
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:08.840
my case. I think his first
start last year, maybe he was the

970
01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:13.119
second one, but my man was
just painting the edges. Just everything was

971
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.800
on the edge. Man. He
left nothing over the middle of the plate.

972
01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:18.159
So that got me really interested.
I was desperate in that league that

973
01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:23.039
I had mentioned, and I'm way
overpaid for what I should pay for lively

974
01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:26.079
to help me out at the time. But I find it also interesting.

975
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:30.479
At least the plvs pictureless stuff plus
stuff like his fastball got a pretty high

976
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:36.000
mark. So take that fo Yeah, even though don't think Nick cares for

977
01:11:36.039 --> 01:11:40.760
it very much at all, but
my interest here. He's currently listed as

978
01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:45.359
a swingman for Cleveland. He's rostered
in four percent of leagues. You know,

979
01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:47.399
that's less than some of our b
sides. He's not getting drafted.

980
01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:51.039
I'm one of those leagues. I'm
a proud Ben Lively owner. I mean

981
01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:55.760
those thirty teen leagues where you just
need to get some arms. Yeah,

982
01:11:55.840 --> 01:12:00.399
but we have seen Cleveland take guys
with less than out more fastballs or you

983
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:03.840
might think are less than optimal,
and help them. So I'm curious what

984
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:10.079
will happen with Cleveland here? And
is this a good fastball that isn't that

985
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:13.840
hard? He throws it like ninety
one, But is this a good shape?

986
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:16.399
Is this a good fastball? And
Cleveland's going to help him a little

987
01:12:16.399 --> 01:12:19.880
bit? I don't know, but
with the command that I saw on stretches,

988
01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:25.000
and I think maybe that might be
just Lively's things. He can be

989
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:28.039
really good for a little while and
then he just kind of loses it.

990
01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:30.279
But the execution that I saw for
him in that little stretch, I thought

991
01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:34.600
was could definitely play, and he
had some good major league success. Nobody

992
01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:38.680
wants him just kind of to keep
an eye. Just kind of an interesting

993
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:43.239
guy in my opinion. Yeah,
interesting. I was drawn in by the

994
01:12:43.319 --> 01:12:48.079
strikeout and walk ratios like that.
He'd been fairly successful at getting whiffs and

995
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:53.199
limiting walks, but just was giving
up all the home runs. I'd run

996
01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:56.520
a study on this a while back
that generally speaking, you still want to

997
01:12:56.560 --> 01:13:00.319
trust the strikeout and walk ratios rather
than the home run rates, because he

998
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:05.239
ran a two point h three homer
per nine rate last year, and like

999
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:10.720
basically nobody ever has had success with
that kind of home run rate. But

1000
01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:14.960
it's also not very sticky, like
it's not he wasn't He was in small

1001
01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:17.279
park and had a fastball that I
think was getting lit up. So,

1002
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:20.760
like I said, maybe some improvements
with the fastball. We got a bit

1003
01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:25.479
of a different Ben Lively this year. I'm excited to see it. Nate,

1004
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:28.760
great, great picks. There are
some fun ones in there. Yeah

1005
01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:32.199
you too, Man. I love
that you brought up Miley so R MLB

1006
01:13:32.920 --> 01:13:38.880
B side arms, Steven Matt Zach
Thompson, JT. Brubaker, Ryan Feltner,

1007
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:43.560
Wade Miley, Johnny Brito cutter Croft
for Cody Bradford, JP Franz,

1008
01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:46.319
Ben Lively right on, Matt.
Some winners in there. Now, Matt,

1009
01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:51.319
let's talk about Reevon Scooter. You
want to talk about can we can?

1010
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:56.399
We? Yes? Oh my god, I love him. So let

1011
01:13:56.399 --> 01:13:59.880
me set this up a little bit
here. So my guy Justin, who

1012
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.479
hooks me up with some fantastic tools
to help me watch baseball through the season,

1013
01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:08.079
made us something that I love.
On fangrafts, you can't look at

1014
01:14:08.119 --> 01:14:12.960
a prospect pitcher right and get stuff
broken down like first time through the order,

1015
01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:15.000
second time through the order, et
cetera. Right, So what Justin

1016
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:19.319
did is he pulled from MiLB dot
com. You can go to splits and

1017
01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:25.479
it will it will break down prospect
stats by inning right, first literal inning

1018
01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:28.079
of the game, first inning,
second inning, third inning, et cetera.

1019
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:30.560
But the problem is part of the
problem is they don't update that.

1020
01:14:30.680 --> 01:14:33.159
You can look at a guy who
threw one hundred innings and they'll have like,

1021
01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:35.560
oh, he pitched four innings in
the second inning, Like, no,

1022
01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:41.159
that's not correct. But Justin's wizard
and they have all that stats behind

1023
01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:44.279
the scenes. So he pulled all
that for me. So just in a

1024
01:14:44.399 --> 01:14:47.159
literal sense, well, were all
of the minor league picture stats in the

1025
01:14:47.159 --> 01:14:50.439
first inn in the second inning,
third inning, et cetera. Right,

1026
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:54.359
So then I got to playing with
that, and what I did is I

1027
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:57.600
just split it first, second,
third inning, fourth, fifth, sixth

1028
01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:00.479
inning. What were all of the
pitcher's stats and those two groups, and

1029
01:15:00.520 --> 01:15:03.239
then I had to, like,
I really spent a lot of time just

1030
01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:06.319
kind of like weeding up guys.
Right, you've got piggybackers. You've got

1031
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:10.600
guys who don't come in until the
fourth inning, so that's not going to

1032
01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:15.840
be a great representation of their stats
the first or second, third time through

1033
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:18.560
the order. There were guys that
didn't go deep enough to really make any

1034
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:24.159
sort of difference to So after weeding
all those guys out, I got my

1035
01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:29.760
spreadsheet. Here there were roughly three
hundred guys. I thought we could maybe

1036
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:33.359
glean a little idea, a little
look at how their their stats may may

1037
01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:38.199
have gone as they got deeper into
the games. Right, looked at nothing

1038
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:43.079
super fancy. Here, looked at
er whip, strike percentage, wall percentage,

1039
01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:46.359
K percentage, home run percentage,
batting average against, ops against.

1040
01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:49.039
Right, just stuff like that.
So what is that? That's one,

1041
01:15:49.079 --> 01:15:53.399
two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight categories?

1042
01:15:53.479 --> 01:15:59.680
Right, eight different stats, And
Matt, your man Reedvon Scooter was far

1043
01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:03.279
and way the best looking dude here, Like, i' man, this is

1044
01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:09.279
this is insane to me. Okay, So those like eight categories or whatever,

1045
01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:16.119
there were fourteen pitchers who improved in
all eight of those in the third,

1046
01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:20.239
fourth, and sixth innings of their
starts, right, Reedvon Scooter Jackson,

1047
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:26.159
Wolf, Trent Baker, Dustin Say
Signs, Jacob Miller, your Man,

1048
01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:30.520
Kaiwa Tang, Josh Stephen, Tyson, Guerrero, Cooper Jerpe. But

1049
01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:34.880
mind you, there's a pretty small
sample size there. Surprisingly to me,

1050
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:43.039
rouber sealinis my B side. Also
surprising to me, my Blue Jays B

1051
01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:47.680
side, Ryan Jennings, Luis Devers, John Klein, and another B side

1052
01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:55.319
Matt Gilbert Diez RVs. Was bar
and way the most improved statistically, like

1053
01:16:55.399 --> 01:17:00.359
this guy in the fourth, fifth, and sixth innings, which he went

1054
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:03.000
that deep in a lot of his
games, right, Yeah, he was

1055
01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:06.279
one of the top innings pitch this
year, one hundred and ft three,

1056
01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:11.600
right exactly. And so I broke
it down like this too. So in

1057
01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:16.159
innings one through six, like forty
five point three percent of his innings were

1058
01:17:16.359 --> 01:17:19.640
the third, fourth or sixth inning. That's a very high percent, way

1059
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:23.880
higher than a lot of a lot
of dudes here, right, His era

1060
01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:29.399
from the front half to the back
half three point six zero to two point

1061
01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:32.279
three four. His whip went from
one four to eight to point nine.

1062
01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:38.560
His strike percentage increased from sixty four
point nine percent to sixty six point seven

1063
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:42.640
percent. His walk rate went from
seven percent to five percent. His k

1064
01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:46.720
rate went from twenty five percent to
twenty seven percent. The home run percentage,

1065
01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:51.399
I guess stayed the same. It
went up by very marginal, marginal

1066
01:17:51.439 --> 01:17:56.680
amount. I just rounded it to
whole percentage points. And then his batting

1067
01:17:56.760 --> 01:18:01.000
average against dropped almost one hundred points
from two nine one ninety seven. That

1068
01:18:01.479 --> 01:18:08.199
was the most substantial difference out of
any picture across the board that we looked

1069
01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:12.760
at, And I found that kind
of fascinating that from your looks of our

1070
01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.880
vs. Why do you think he
was able to do that? I think

1071
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:19.720
it gets to the depth and quality
of the repertoire. You know some of

1072
01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:23.159
this when we were talking about this, as we were diving into some of

1073
01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:27.079
these results over the past couple of
weeks. I hypothesize that some of this

1074
01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:30.840
is noise. Like some of these
guys, it's going to be it's it's

1075
01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:36.760
luck in some capacity. But I
also think one of the commonalities of some

1076
01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:42.920
of the guys that were listed was
that they do have deeper repertoires that they

1077
01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:48.840
can make it more times through the
order and still surprise batters consistently. And

1078
01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:54.279
I feel that that's the way that
Van Scooter approaches a lineup, like he

1079
01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:59.560
has stuff that I think plays really
well, irrespective of the hate that it's

1080
01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:04.159
gotten from some quarters on the evaluation
of the particulars of his pitch mix.

1081
01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:09.359
But I think that the combination of
the way he locates it, and that

1082
01:19:09.640 --> 01:19:15.079
the release points, the shapes,
and the way that he locates all of

1083
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:20.319
his pitches play together to make each
app bad against him look pretty different even

1084
01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:25.199
if it's your third or fourth time
seeing him. So this is one of

1085
01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:30.159
the reasons why he was so exciting
to me as I was watching him and

1086
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:35.199
watching him this past year and evaluating
his tools and tang. It's interesting that

1087
01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:39.239
he's another one that popped on this
list because he's another one that I was

1088
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:44.359
like, this arsenal has depth,
it has quality, and it just seems

1089
01:19:44.399 --> 01:19:47.279
really difficult to hit against him,
doesn't matter if you've seen him a bunch

1090
01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:51.239
of times. And I like that
and the fact that both of them pitch

1091
01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:56.000
deep into games and have the innings
built up. I think they're both really

1092
01:19:56.399 --> 01:20:00.239
exciting pitchers. You know, like
you said, a lot of this this

1093
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:03.239
is harry and noisy. I don't
know what you want to take away from

1094
01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:06.079
it, right, but you know
we talk about and we like guys who

1095
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:11.319
can actually go deep into games,
right, be a starter. So maybe

1096
01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:15.479
this gives us some insight into into
that with some of these arms like Tang

1097
01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:18.520
right, only thirty three percent of
his innings we're in the fourth, fifth

1098
01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:23.079
and six, right, Yeah,
because he has lots of challenge getting that

1099
01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:26.720
deep in games because of his walk
issues. Right, and you talk about

1100
01:20:26.800 --> 01:20:29.840
how there's attacks when you get deeper
in his games, Right, you should

1101
01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:32.399
be easier to hit as pitchers see
you more often, right, But also

1102
01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:36.520
too, like you have to account
for there are games where you don't get

1103
01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:43.119
to the fourth, fifth and six
innings because you got blue up early.

1104
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:46.680
Right, So that's going to affect
things like your era and whip and whatever.

1105
01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:53.159
Maybe the most interesting thing on all
of this was whose percentage of innings

1106
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:56.399
was we're in the fourth, fifth
and six. That might be just the

1107
01:20:56.399 --> 01:20:59.439
most interesting part of it. I
don't know. I do want to highlight

1108
01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:02.640
a few guys here and a few
things that they did. Wilmer Flores is

1109
01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:08.640
a guy who I found really interesting. I know he didn't have a really

1110
01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:13.760
great year, but I thought a
combination of stuff and execution in twenty twenty

1111
01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:15.880
two was really good. He kind
of fell off a little bit, but

1112
01:21:16.439 --> 01:21:20.840
there were some nice signs here,
and I think he had some outings where

1113
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:25.319
he just got gave up a lot
of runs early. But he was a

1114
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:29.319
guy that when he did go deeper
into the games was was pretty good and

1115
01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:34.000
arguably better my guy CJ. Culpepper
nat thirty six percent of his innings were

1116
01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:38.239
in the fourth, fifth, and
six. It accounted for thirty and two

1117
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:41.760
thirds innings on the season. Guess
howbody earned runs he gave up then?

1118
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:45.680
Zero? Nada. I know you
shared this with me already, and that's

1119
01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:48.319
impressive. Nada. I mean,
that might just be a good stretcher or

1120
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:54.880
whatever, but nobody does that.
Nobody did that. Some pictures who seemed

1121
01:21:54.920 --> 01:21:59.960
to lose some substantial cagews deeper into
starts, like my guy Dylan Ray dropped

1122
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:04.880
ten percent over a pretty decent sample
size. Your guy Isaac Coffee dropped ten

1123
01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:11.560
percent, Jack Lighter dropped nine percent, Juan Corilla dropped nine percent. Yarro

1124
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:16.159
Eriarte dropped nine percent. But like
interesting, yeah, only I mean only

1125
01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:21.279
thirty two percent of his innings were
were there. But Trace McDermott dropped seven

1126
01:22:21.319 --> 01:22:28.079
percent, Frank Mazokato dropped seven percent, Kyder Montero dropped six percent, Luis

1127
01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:31.920
Perrellis dropped six percent. To Ko
Roby dropped six percent, Jordan Wick dropped

1128
01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:36.039
six percent. Zebie Matthews dropped six
percent. That was a little interesting.

1129
01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:42.880
That is interesting. Cole Wilcox walk
percentage dumped quite a bit eight percent.

1130
01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:48.720
Ike Buxton walk percentage went up six
percent later and starts tink Hence walk percentage

1131
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:54.720
went up four percent. Well were
his strikeout rates down four percent already?

1132
01:22:54.760 --> 01:22:59.199
Not high rate? Right? Yeah, that was kind of interesting. Higher

1133
01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:04.039
ops allowed to Mitch Bratt's batting average
guns swim up over what one hundred and

1134
01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:09.520
seventeen points. Joe Rock gave up
a lot more hits Dylan Rey as well,

1135
01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:13.119
which makes a lot of sense to
me. Can Dana, So I

1136
01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:15.680
don't know, kind of some fun. So can your boy get us these

1137
01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:20.439
data for previous years, because I
think we could have some fun using ubility

1138
01:23:20.520 --> 01:23:27.159
if it is directionally projection affected,
you know, probably because my proxy for

1139
01:23:27.239 --> 01:23:31.920
This is just like do they throw
innings. If you're throwing innings, you're

1140
01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:36.439
having some success. This is interesting
although they are small samples, but I

1141
01:23:36.439 --> 01:23:41.439
think the things that you're calling out
mat in are their case going up or

1142
01:23:41.479 --> 01:23:43.840
down? Are their walks going up
er down? Like? Those are the

1143
01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:48.720
things that are stickiest in smaller samples
and are also more predictive of just overall

1144
01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:54.000
skill. So I wonder if we
can break this out a little bit more

1145
01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:57.840
granularly for some of the guys over
the past, like say three or four

1146
01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:01.640
years before, and see where they
land in the major leagues if it helps

1147
01:24:01.720 --> 01:24:05.239
us with breakouts. Like you know, a guy that I'm curious about is

1148
01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:12.479
someone like Reed debt Meers, who
really ran some pristine lines in the minors,

1149
01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:15.680
and it's taken his lumps a bit
in pro ball up to this point.

1150
01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:19.359
He's had some success, but also
had some growing pains too, And

1151
01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:27.000
I wonder whether it's it tells us
anything more about his like underlying depth of

1152
01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:32.119
repertoire. This is a log of
the history of twenty twenty three minor leagues.

1153
01:24:32.399 --> 01:24:34.720
I'm not going to take it as
too much more than that, but

1154
01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:40.319
you know, maybe maybe there's some
signs here. Maybe there's some breadcrumbs of

1155
01:24:40.399 --> 01:24:42.920
some things we might want to pay
more attention to. I don't know,

1156
01:24:43.159 --> 01:24:46.079
Hey, and anything that confirms my
bias that tin kNs is actually stink.

1157
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:51.840
Hence, I think good Leod Matt
Jackson job first, second, and third

1158
01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:58.159
innings forty three in a third innings
total there he walked three percent of batters,

1159
01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:01.359
right, and then four when he
went four or five six, which

1160
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:06.039
was twenty and two thirds, his
walk percentage was zero. Yeah, he's

1161
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:11.000
fun. That's pretty good. That's
pretty good. Strike guys out and don't

1162
01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:15.159
walk them. Yeah, good starting
point. Strike them out at like thirty

1163
01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:18.920
three percent or whatever it was and
walk them at like two and a half

1164
01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:23.880
percent. That'll probably play. Yeah, I think I think it should.

1165
01:25:24.119 --> 01:25:27.640
I hope he stays healthy. I
hope that back thing isn't isn't a concern,

1166
01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:30.239
because I'm quite excited about watching him
and the bigs. So, I

1167
01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:33.479
don't know, Matt, you got
anything else he wanted to talk about or

1168
01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:36.000
should we rather? I don't think
so. I mean, that was quite

1169
01:25:36.039 --> 01:25:41.920
the wide ranging conversation. You know. We talked about minor leaguers, fringe

1170
01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:45.479
major leaguers, some potential stars.
I mean, we were all over the

1171
01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:47.680
place today right out. Well,
there's some muddy arm stuff. I think

1172
01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:53.520
we're well, we got sent back
down to the minors. That so shure.

1173
01:25:54.239 --> 01:25:56.800
We'll have to work along anyway,
Nate, we'll have to work on

1174
01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:59.680
some things. Maybe we can get
back up to the biggs later. But

1175
01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:00.800
yeah, I don't know. I
don't know what we're gonna talk about next

1176
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:03.960
week. We'll figure it out.
But hopefully there's there's some deep arms that

1177
01:26:04.079 --> 01:26:08.960
might help you in some leagues at
least short term or what have you.

1178
01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:13.119
Spot start stream. I don't know, but I think we'll let Chicago Farmer

1179
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:16.039
take us out. Matt be well, talk to you next time. See

1180
01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:23.960
Yu ritten to his head. He
hop him down the first with the lump

1181
01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:29.159
bone in his face, and on
the very next pitch he up in stove

1182
01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:40.880
second face with greatest speed. He
wasn't born. He had the dirdy.

1183
01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:43.079
Yes, Ni Borne

