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This article that we're going to talk
about now is from the Washington Post.

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It was written on the three first
of May, and it tells us a

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story about hope and resistance against bigotry. So high high school students planned to

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perform a play containing LGBTQ characters,
but the school canceled it after some parents

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complaints, and so the kids didn't
give up. They kept trying and trying

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and trying, and finally they ended
up performing outside the school in front of

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fifteen hundred people, and so they
had to fight against the school board.

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And in there the article talks about
that woman who before most kids could speak,

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this woman, kay Nieman. She
said she was a taxpayer, a

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mother, and a pastor's wife.
And display Marianne with its LGBTQ characters whatever

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how many ABC's you want to put
on. It was immorals what we believe

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is in the Bible, and it
says, and the Bible says, that's

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almost actually a sin, and so
it's forgivable, don't get me wrong,

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forgivable and we love them. But
nevertheless, I apploch who ever made the

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decision to not have go on.
And so this in uh in a nutshell

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is christianage, purity, hypocrisy,
bigotry, cowardices and hey, Kelly,

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yeah, are you telling me that
a bunch of high school kids got together?

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High school kids, right, got
together and beat the biggots. That's

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that's freaking awesome. And you know, I think it's a really good example.

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If a bunch of high school kids
can come together and pull off something

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like this. Can you just imagine
what you can do in your community.

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Take a second out, imagine it
now. Anything you just imagined you can

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do, just like these high school
students did. It's freaking amazing. It

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doesn't take much. You don't have
to be a professional activist. You just

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have to have a cause. That's
it. That's it. You gotta believe

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it and gotta get up and motivate
and do it. Aaron, Yeah,

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I totally agree that we have to
stand up and work together to fight back

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on people that want to force their
morality on other people. And we have

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to we have to do the work. It's not going to happen. We

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can't be apathetic. We have to
be willing to do the work. But

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it's it's not much. I believe
that the student there was one student who

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kind of took the initiative to get
this play put on, and he contacted

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the author of the play, and
soon enough after that they had a go

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fund me going and they found a
theater and they had raised like eighty thousand

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dollars to rent out the theater and
hire private security. And that was just

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one person reaching out to another person, and it just kind of got a

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wave of going. You never know
what you can start by by just picking

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up the phone and calling someone or
sending somebody an email or having a conversation

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with somebody about what you believe and
what you want the world to be like.

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And I find it really interesting,
doctor Richard, what do you have

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to say saying again, the world
these from by the people that show up.

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It's also fun o the people that
show up and fight, and the

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people that this won't take, take
take the crab who are just like,

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now we're not going to have this. You can't stand anymore. And I

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think there's the kids are just amazing
the things they've been doing in the last

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decade, where you know, after
school shootings, they go out of march

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and they have speakers and things like
this. And there was the University in

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Florida recently where they put their own
commencements together, which was bigger than the

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bigger inside who have inside turn their
backs too. And all this stuff is

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just, I think, wonderful stuff
and it needs it needs to be embraced.

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We need more of this. We
need to show up to these things

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and do these things. Now.
In the UK, our current government is

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trying very hard to stifle our ability
to do that. Their latest great idea

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is that if you make too much
noiise during a protest, you can be

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arrested, and they don't define what
how much noise is, so it's up

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to the police. And as we
know, the police are very good at

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being fair in these situations. That
sarcasm, We do it very well where

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I'm from. And it's just I
just wanting to see them because I just

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know that even in the UK,
we're still going to have people marching and

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making noise and just saying arrest me, fine, but it won't be people

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like me, will be people who
are younger. I just think it's great

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that they are and they're voting as
well. This is the main thing.

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And if you're not voting and you're
want to be part of this get to

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the voting. It's all about and
because so many things are being imposed upon

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people that are religious things, they
are religious ideas, they come from religion.

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They will pretend that they're not.
But at the end of the day,

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when you get the Russian doll and
you keep peeling back and back,

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the last one will be called the
Bible. Oh, it's all the Koran

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or something. We've got to stop
this because it's another form of religion interfering

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with government, with life, with
liberty, with freedom. So yeah,

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I am so mussively impressed with what
a generation of a tougher amina and cooler

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than mine. I'll admit it,
I'm doing It's amazing. It's just yeah,

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Kenny, I can see jumping in
the Oh, I am chomping at

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the bit. I was gonna lay
it air and go, but I'll take

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it. Oh. One of the
things that that's the woman who showed up

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at the school board meeting Kay Nyman. One of the things she says is

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it's forgivable. Don't give me wrong. The sin of being a homosexuality is

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a forgivable sin. Don't get me
wrong. It's forgivable, and we love

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them. But nevertheless, I applaud
whoever made the decision and not have this

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play go on. And it's just
that, oh yeah, it's that love

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love, love the sinner, hate
the sin. I mean, that's what

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she said in so many words,
and it's just such a bullshit thing to

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say, and I think we all
know it. I hate it every time

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I hear it, because what if
we had just reversed it around and I

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tried to When I hear it and
it's I always say, hey, you

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know what, I love Christians,
it's just a Christian church. I don't

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like. If Christians would just stop
worshiping on Sunday and praying and baptizing people,

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I wouldn't have a problem with them, you know that. That's so

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it's not really the Christians that I
hate. It's the Christianity. And you

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see it sounds stupid because it is
stupid. It is really, really stupid,

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and I wish they'd stop using it
as an excuse because it's not going

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anywhere. It doesn't ring well with
people on the other side. It only

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rings well with them. Aaron.
Yeah, you know, Jesus associated with

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sinners. He wasn't. He didn't
go out And I don't know if he

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shut down any plays. There's no
record of it, but I don't think

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he shut down any plays. But
he was out there talking to people that

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didn't live the way he wanted them
to. That he had to go out

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and preach the message. So maybe
rather than shutting things down, maybe going

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into someone's world. You know,
he would have Jesus one of the people's

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homes and visited with them. Maybe
you should go into these people's homes and

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and see what I have to say. Maybe you can go listen to the

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play and see another point of view, And maybe if you show some support

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and some love, maybe people might
be more willing to listen to your message

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rather than shutting shutting things down.
I don't think very many people are gonna

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listen to you when you're going to
be that rude or mean to them.

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But if you show some compassion and
some support, people might be more willing

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to maybe listen to your point of
view. Cindy, Yeah, you can't

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show compassion and empathy if everything your
thought is hate. And because we talked

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about it several times earlier on different
shows, Uh, it's you. You

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can't have on one hand philosophy and
the worldview that teaches that you are better

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than everyone and then listen to them. That's that's not how it works.

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You If you are better than them, then you don't have to listen to

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them, you don't have to allow
them even to do what they want.

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You are better than them, so
you get to decide. And that's where

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this idea that the US is a
Christian country, that's the goal behind it.

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It's to be able to say people, because we are better, so

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we get to tell you have to
live your life. That's that's it,

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doctor Rich. Yes, it's it's
that paradox, isn't it about how you

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should allow people to live their life
how they want until they become the people

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that are telling you that you shouldn't
live your life how you want, and

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then at that point you should start
telling them how to live their lives and

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stop bothering you. Carl Popper had
something to say about it, I think,

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and it's just I agree completely that
I think there's a there's another saying

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that similar to hate the sin,
love the sinner, and it's hate hate

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love the cond hate the conty,
hate the Connors hate, and it's a

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similar thing, but it doesn't quite
work. Again, you hit brick warwhere

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you find somebody who's been condon say, come on now, why are you

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still being come why are you still
falling this? It's it's obvious now that

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you are in the middle of some
kind of con And it's similarly when they

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say this sort of thing. You
know, we we hate the sin,

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we we love we hate the sin, but we love the sinner. No,

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you don't know, you don't at
all, because if you did,

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you let them their lives how they
want to, and you wouldn't find some

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reason to hate somebody. At the
end of the day. What it is

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is classic fear action. It is
the fear to something they don't understand,

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something that is alien to them,
or something is old to them, something

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that is different to them. And
you know, we know what Yoda says

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about that you don't want to go
to the dark side. You should remain

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in the light and end upon an
island or something. But it's it's classic

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fear. It's classic rejection on for
the other. The other are different,

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therefore we fear the other. Therefore
we're going to push them away and legislate

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against them. Because everybody should be
like us. People aren't like us.

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We don't get that stand it.
We can't tap into that, we can't

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get into their mindset. So let's
stop them from being different so we can

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be comfortable. And it's it's hatred. It's a place of hate and fear

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and sometimes discussed when that other becomes
dehumanizer, and that's when they really bad

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things start to happen. And that's
really when the whole we hate the sin

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but loves the sinner thing becomes a
load of old huey because they start hating

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the sinner big time then. And
it's a small step, it's a very

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small step from we don't want your
player to go ahead too, we don't

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want you to exist. And there
were certain parts of that community that there

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are certain people do not accept that
they exist already. So that step is

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already being taken, which is rightly. But on the other side, the

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kids are fighting back. We should
fight back with them. We should say,

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yeah, these people do exist,
they're real, they're different. Embrace

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the different and different your diff they're
different, it's differ. Let's embrace the

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differences, not be terrified by them. I finished preaching now. So when

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you go to the beach, you
know you see a lot of kids maybe

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playing in the building sandcastles. Nobody
goes up to a kid and smashes their

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sandcastle and tells them to stop building
sand castle, then kicks them off the

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beach. You mind your own business. You let people, you know build

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their sand castles, and I really
wish there was more of that in the

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world. I understand that you personally
don't agree that you personally think homosexuality is

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bad it's not. I understand that
you do that, But why don't you

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just mind your own business. If
you don't like something, then just don't

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support it. But you don't need
to come around and smash up somebody's sandcastle

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just because it wasn't the way you
wanted it, the way you thought a

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sand castle should be built. It's
kind of do onto others as you would

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have others doing too. You wouldn't
want people shutting down your play. Right.

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If I don't want to come see
your play that proselytes about Jesus,

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I just won't come see it.
I'm not going to try and shut it

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down, so I expect the same
respect. Don't shut down my play just

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because it's got content that you're scared
of, you know, just mind your

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own business and don't support what you
don't want to exist in the world,

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but don't don't ruin people's sandcastles.
Right. It's another case of in the

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world, but not of the world. Right. It just is of them

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going against that idea. One of
the things I was wondering about is who

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the hell is on this school the
school board here when twenty students can show

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up and talk about how the place
should go on and one parent, one

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parent speaks out against twenty students,
and they listen to the one parent.

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I want to know who's on this
school board because I think maybe we need

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to change the people who live in
that neighborhood. They need to change those

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people sitting on that board. That's
ridiculous when you could have that many people

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on one side and only one on
the other side, and the one gets

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their way but on the other side
of the coin, and it's something I

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don't agree with. In the United
States, high school kids don't have any

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legal rights. I don't know if
maybe he remembers back a few years ago

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when the kid had a banner saying
bonds for Jesus and was kicked out of

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his school for it. Even though
he wasn't at a school event or on

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school ground, and the Supreme Court
said that he had no right to the

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freedom of speech. So high school
students don't have the same legal rights as

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we do in the United States.
It kind of sucks, but it's the

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way it is, and I really
don't agree with it. And one thing

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I really want to stop seeing and
it didn't happen here, but I see

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it all the time at these school
born meetings where they're fighting against woke.

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Most of them can't define woke.
I think we all know that. And

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what they're doing here is they're doing
like word laundering. Like I can't say

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that I'm against gay people because then
I'm a bigot. I can't say that

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I'm against trans people because then I'm
a bigot, right, So I'll just

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say that I can't say I'm against
black people because then I'm a bigot.

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So I'll say that I'm against woke, I'm against CRT right, So that

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way, I'm not using these bigot
trigger words. And it doesn't work.

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Again, this stuff doesn't work.
We know what you're doing, we know

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what you mean. Stop pretending like
you're saying something that you're not saying even

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my duck understands it. You guys
are not fooling anyone, and you need

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to realize it and actually be understandable
about understanding of how your message isn't hitting

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home. It just isn't. So, Aaron, I know you had a

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lot to say. Don't here,
so you got anything more you'd like to

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add? Well, you know,
I think one of the reasons you can

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have twenty kids show up at a
school board meeting and nothing happened is because

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they're not voters school board members.
They don't have to care. Right,

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So maybe maybe high school kids that
are affected by a school board, maybe

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they should have a voice and who's
on their school board. Maybe that would

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get some of the school board members
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voters. And as far as woke
goes, you know and me to me,

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woke just means listening and believing people
when they tell you their stories,

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right, not just dismissing what their
experiences or dismissing who they are, what

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they what they say they are.
Just listen and believe people when they when

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they share their experience. Uh,
Cindy, Yeah, this is part of

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a very very aggressive client mate,
towards lgb Q people in the US.

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As as of late April, there
was at least four hundred and eight bills

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introduced in forty five state specifically targeting
Q people in the US five hundred laws

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in forty five state in this year. Again, as as of late April,

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twenty nine bills have been voted in
place in fourteen states. That just

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from first of January to I think
it's twenty eight of April, and so

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there's most likely more than that right
now. So it's it's like the Republican

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Party has given up on proposing a
platform. They go all out on the

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especially trans people lately, and that's
all. That's everything they do. They

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don't offer anything else. It's it's
amazing how such a big portion of the

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population doesn't realize what's happening. Right
It's it's like, are they talking about

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building roads or bridges or buildings or
anything. No, they just complain and

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uh and and and deeming people.
That's that's all they do. That's that's

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quite scary. But they're rich.
Yeah, it's it's it's not just an

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American thing either, that we know
that there are people here that want to

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make the next lecture. We have
a debate about wokeness whatever again, whatever

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that defines us. I think you
used to be called political correctness, but

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there's too many syllables so it got
confusing, um basically, and it's it's

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a weird thing that in the UK
it's not again, it's not a left

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right issue. There are there's an
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It's every bit as dangerous as the
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kind of I don't understand why people. I don't understand why people have to

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get into each other's business in this
way. And I don't understand that sometimes

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people don't have any policies, so
all they can do is point at something,

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say it's that. It's that's the
problem. And this is another example

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of it. And there's another thing
as well that was going to bring up

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that is happening here. There's a
very serious discussion about us dropping our age

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of voting to sixteen, the argument
being at sixteen year old people can get

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married, have sex, and die
for their country, so maybe we ought

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to give them the vote as well. Oh and go to adult prison,

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so maybe we ought to give them
the vote as well. And I think

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we'll actually transform the political landscape in
a way that nothing else have arised.

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It's equivalent here of them giving DC
statehood in the US, everything would change

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politically overnight. It'd be like what
sort of the party called again? Do

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you remember them? They had the
president once? That's kind of sort of

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would happened here that And I think
there's a good call for it because they're

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more sensible than we are. Frankly, they're more to tune to these things.

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And this whole woke thing well home
SECRETI is described as as the woker

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rat, which I'm proud to be. I was going to get a T

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shirt saying that I remember of the
karate and I think I will still get

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that T shirt. And it's just
a cheap We're coming back to what we've

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discussed earlier in other segments. People
may have already seen this about how it's

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a cheap Let's find another to point
at because that gets people to behave in

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a certain way, you know,
And it's it's it's a big problem in

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politics all over the world right now. It's not just us. Things such

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as the UK thing, it seems
to be the authoritarian part of the world

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are just doing the let's let's point
at them because we don't want to talk

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about infrastructure before. We don't want
to talk about infracture, we don't want

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talk about roads, we don't have
to talk about electricity, we don't want

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to talk about making things green and
having a green power infrastructure, which we

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absolutely must do, which yeah,
we don't want to do any of that.

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What we want to do is point
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reason, you're what things are bad, so and we'll do something about them.

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And it's it's it's a growing issue
and we know what it needs to

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We've been there, not all that
long ago, within the last ten years

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it happened, it was bad,
so that there is this much pushback is

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great and long mate content. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what a great

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conversation we've hit her today. This
was an fascinating segment. I really love

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doing it with you guys, and
I hope you enjoyed it too. Thank

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you all for watching and listening.
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