This article that we're going to talk about now is from the Washington Post.
It was written on the three first of May, and it tells us a
story about hope and resistance against bigotry. So high high school students planned to
perform a play containing LGBTQ characters, but the school canceled it after some parents
complaints, and so the kids didn't give up. They kept trying and trying
and trying, and finally they ended up performing outside the school in front of
fifteen hundred people, and so they had to fight against the school board.
And in there the article talks about that woman who before most kids could speak,
this woman, kay Nieman. She said she was a taxpayer, a
mother, and a pastor's wife. And display Marianne with its LGBTQ characters whatever
how many ABC's you want to put on. It was immorals what we believe
is in the Bible, and it says, and the Bible says, that's
almost actually a sin, and so it's forgivable, don't get me wrong,
forgivable and we love them. But nevertheless, I apploch who ever made the
decision to not have go on. And so this in uh in a nutshell
is christianage, purity, hypocrisy, bigotry, cowardices and hey, Kelly,
yeah, are you telling me that a bunch of high school kids got together?
High school kids, right, got together and beat the biggots. That's
that's freaking awesome. And you know, I think it's a really good example.
If a bunch of high school kids can come together and pull off something
like this. Can you just imagine what you can do in your community.
Take a second out, imagine it now. Anything you just imagined you can
do, just like these high school students did. It's freaking amazing. It
doesn't take much. You don't have to be a professional activist. You just
have to have a cause. That's it. That's it. You gotta believe
it and gotta get up and motivate and do it. Aaron, Yeah,
I totally agree that we have to stand up and work together to fight back
on people that want to force their morality on other people. And we have
to we have to do the work. It's not going to happen. We
can't be apathetic. We have to be willing to do the work. But
it's it's not much. I believe that the student there was one student who
kind of took the initiative to get this play put on, and he contacted
the author of the play, and soon enough after that they had a go
fund me going and they found a theater and they had raised like eighty thousand
dollars to rent out the theater and hire private security. And that was just
one person reaching out to another person, and it just kind of got a
wave of going. You never know what you can start by by just picking
up the phone and calling someone or sending somebody an email or having a conversation
with somebody about what you believe and what you want the world to be like.
And I find it really interesting, doctor Richard, what do you have
to say saying again, the world these from by the people that show up.
It's also fun o the people that show up and fight, and the
people that this won't take, take take the crab who are just like,
now we're not going to have this. You can't stand anymore. And I
think there's the kids are just amazing the things they've been doing in the last
decade, where you know, after school shootings, they go out of march
and they have speakers and things like this. And there was the University in
Florida recently where they put their own commencements together, which was bigger than the
bigger inside who have inside turn their backs too. And all this stuff is
just, I think, wonderful stuff and it needs it needs to be embraced.
We need more of this. We need to show up to these things
and do these things. Now. In the UK, our current government is
trying very hard to stifle our ability to do that. Their latest great idea
is that if you make too much noiise during a protest, you can be
arrested, and they don't define what how much noise is, so it's up
to the police. And as we know, the police are very good at
being fair in these situations. That sarcasm, We do it very well where
I'm from. And it's just I just wanting to see them because I just
know that even in the UK, we're still going to have people marching and
making noise and just saying arrest me, fine, but it won't be people
like me, will be people who are younger. I just think it's great
that they are and they're voting as well. This is the main thing.
And if you're not voting and you're want to be part of this get to
the voting. It's all about and because so many things are being imposed upon
people that are religious things, they are religious ideas, they come from religion.
They will pretend that they're not. But at the end of the day,
when you get the Russian doll and you keep peeling back and back,
the last one will be called the Bible. Oh, it's all the Koran
or something. We've got to stop this because it's another form of religion interfering
with government, with life, with liberty, with freedom. So yeah,
I am so mussively impressed with what a generation of a tougher amina and cooler
than mine. I'll admit it, I'm doing It's amazing. It's just yeah,
Kenny, I can see jumping in the Oh, I am chomping at
the bit. I was gonna lay it air and go, but I'll take
it. Oh. One of the things that that's the woman who showed up
at the school board meeting Kay Nyman. One of the things she says is
it's forgivable. Don't give me wrong. The sin of being a homosexuality is
a forgivable sin. Don't get me wrong. It's forgivable, and we love
them. But nevertheless, I applaud whoever made the decision and not have this
play go on. And it's just that, oh yeah, it's that love
love, love the sinner, hate the sin. I mean, that's what
she said in so many words, and it's just such a bullshit thing to
say, and I think we all know it. I hate it every time
I hear it, because what if we had just reversed it around and I
tried to When I hear it and it's I always say, hey, you
know what, I love Christians, it's just a Christian church. I don't
like. If Christians would just stop worshiping on Sunday and praying and baptizing people,
I wouldn't have a problem with them, you know that. That's so
it's not really the Christians that I hate. It's the Christianity. And you
see it sounds stupid because it is stupid. It is really, really stupid,
and I wish they'd stop using it as an excuse because it's not going
anywhere. It doesn't ring well with people on the other side. It only
rings well with them. Aaron. Yeah, you know, Jesus associated with
sinners. He wasn't. He didn't go out And I don't know if he
shut down any plays. There's no record of it, but I don't think
he shut down any plays. But he was out there talking to people that
didn't live the way he wanted them to. That he had to go out
and preach the message. So maybe rather than shutting things down, maybe going
into someone's world. You know, he would have Jesus one of the people's
homes and visited with them. Maybe you should go into these people's homes and
and see what I have to say. Maybe you can go listen to the
play and see another point of view, And maybe if you show some support
and some love, maybe people might be more willing to listen to your message
rather than shutting shutting things down. I don't think very many people are gonna
listen to you when you're going to be that rude or mean to them.
But if you show some compassion and some support, people might be more willing
to maybe listen to your point of view. Cindy, Yeah, you can't
show compassion and empathy if everything your thought is hate. And because we talked
about it several times earlier on different shows, Uh, it's you. You
can't have on one hand philosophy and the worldview that teaches that you are better
than everyone and then listen to them. That's that's not how it works.
You If you are better than them, then you don't have to listen to
them, you don't have to allow them even to do what they want.
You are better than them, so you get to decide. And that's where
this idea that the US is a Christian country, that's the goal behind it.
It's to be able to say people, because we are better, so
we get to tell you have to live your life. That's that's it,
doctor Rich. Yes, it's it's that paradox, isn't it about how you
should allow people to live their life how they want until they become the people
that are telling you that you shouldn't live your life how you want, and
then at that point you should start telling them how to live their lives and
stop bothering you. Carl Popper had something to say about it, I think,
and it's just I agree completely that I think there's a there's another saying
that similar to hate the sin, love the sinner, and it's hate hate
love the cond hate the conty, hate the Connors hate, and it's a
similar thing, but it doesn't quite work. Again, you hit brick warwhere
you find somebody who's been condon say, come on now, why are you
still being come why are you still falling this? It's it's obvious now that
you are in the middle of some kind of con And it's similarly when they
say this sort of thing. You know, we we hate the sin,
we we love we hate the sin, but we love the sinner. No,
you don't know, you don't at all, because if you did,
you let them their lives how they want to, and you wouldn't find some
reason to hate somebody. At the end of the day. What it is
is classic fear action. It is the fear to something they don't understand,
something that is alien to them, or something is old to them, something
that is different to them. And you know, we know what Yoda says
about that you don't want to go to the dark side. You should remain
in the light and end upon an island or something. But it's it's classic
fear. It's classic rejection on for the other. The other are different,
therefore we fear the other. Therefore we're going to push them away and legislate
against them. Because everybody should be like us. People aren't like us.
We don't get that stand it. We can't tap into that, we can't
get into their mindset. So let's stop them from being different so we can
be comfortable. And it's it's hatred. It's a place of hate and fear
and sometimes discussed when that other becomes dehumanizer, and that's when they really bad
things start to happen. And that's really when the whole we hate the sin
but loves the sinner thing becomes a load of old huey because they start hating
the sinner big time then. And it's a small step, it's a very
small step from we don't want your player to go ahead too, we don't
want you to exist. And there were certain parts of that community that there
are certain people do not accept that they exist already. So that step is
already being taken, which is rightly. But on the other side, the
kids are fighting back. We should fight back with them. We should say,
yeah, these people do exist, they're real, they're different. Embrace
the different and different your diff they're different, it's differ. Let's embrace the
differences, not be terrified by them. I finished preaching now. So when
you go to the beach, you know you see a lot of kids maybe
playing in the building sandcastles. Nobody goes up to a kid and smashes their
sandcastle and tells them to stop building sand castle, then kicks them off the
beach. You mind your own business. You let people, you know build
their sand castles, and I really wish there was more of that in the
world. I understand that you personally don't agree that you personally think homosexuality is
bad it's not. I understand that you do that, But why don't you
just mind your own business. If you don't like something, then just don't
support it. But you don't need to come around and smash up somebody's sandcastle
just because it wasn't the way you wanted it, the way you thought a
sand castle should be built. It's kind of do onto others as you would
have others doing too. You wouldn't want people shutting down your play. Right.
If I don't want to come see your play that proselytes about Jesus,
I just won't come see it. I'm not going to try and shut it
down, so I expect the same respect. Don't shut down my play just
because it's got content that you're scared of, you know, just mind your
own business and don't support what you don't want to exist in the world,
but don't don't ruin people's sandcastles. Right. It's another case of in the
world, but not of the world. Right. It just is of them
going against that idea. One of the things I was wondering about is who
the hell is on this school the school board here when twenty students can show
up and talk about how the place should go on and one parent, one
parent speaks out against twenty students, and they listen to the one parent.
I want to know who's on this school board because I think maybe we need
to change the people who live in that neighborhood. They need to change those
people sitting on that board. That's ridiculous when you could have that many people
on one side and only one on the other side, and the one gets
their way but on the other side of the coin, and it's something I
don't agree with. In the United States, high school kids don't have any
legal rights. I don't know if maybe he remembers back a few years ago
when the kid had a banner saying bonds for Jesus and was kicked out of
his school for it. Even though he wasn't at a school event or on
school ground, and the Supreme Court said that he had no right to the
freedom of speech. So high school students don't have the same legal rights as
we do in the United States. It kind of sucks, but it's the
way it is, and I really don't agree with it. And one thing
I really want to stop seeing and it didn't happen here, but I see
it all the time at these school born meetings where they're fighting against woke.
Most of them can't define woke. I think we all know that. And
what they're doing here is they're doing like word laundering. Like I can't say
that I'm against gay people because then I'm a bigot. I can't say that
I'm against trans people because then I'm a bigot, right, So I'll just
say that I can't say I'm against black people because then I'm a bigot.
So I'll say that I'm against woke, I'm against CRT right, So that
way, I'm not using these bigot trigger words. And it doesn't work.
Again, this stuff doesn't work. We know what you're doing, we know
what you mean. Stop pretending like you're saying something that you're not saying even
my duck understands it. You guys are not fooling anyone, and you need
to realize it and actually be understandable about understanding of how your message isn't hitting
home. It just isn't. So, Aaron, I know you had a
lot to say. Don't here, so you got anything more you'd like to
add? Well, you know, I think one of the reasons you can
have twenty kids show up at a school board meeting and nothing happened is because
they're not voters school board members. They don't have to care. Right,
So maybe maybe high school kids that are affected by a school board, maybe
they should have a voice and who's on their school board. Maybe that would
get some of the school board members to listen to to some of their their
voters. And as far as woke goes, you know and me to me,
woke just means listening and believing people when they tell you their stories,
right, not just dismissing what their experiences or dismissing who they are, what
they what they say they are. Just listen and believe people when they when
they share their experience. Uh, Cindy, Yeah, this is part of
a very very aggressive client mate, towards lgb Q people in the US.
As as of late April, there was at least four hundred and eight bills
introduced in forty five state specifically targeting Q people in the US five hundred laws
in forty five state in this year. Again, as as of late April,
twenty nine bills have been voted in place in fourteen states. That just
from first of January to I think it's twenty eight of April, and so
there's most likely more than that right now. So it's it's like the Republican
Party has given up on proposing a platform. They go all out on the
especially trans people lately, and that's all. That's everything they do. They
don't offer anything else. It's it's amazing how such a big portion of the
population doesn't realize what's happening. Right It's it's like, are they talking about
building roads or bridges or buildings or anything. No, they just complain and
uh and and and deeming people. That's that's all they do. That's that's
quite scary. But they're rich. Yeah, it's it's it's not just an
American thing either, that we know that there are people here that want to
make the next lecture. We have a debate about wokeness whatever again, whatever
that defines us. I think you used to be called political correctness, but
there's too many syllables so it got confusing, um basically, and it's it's
a weird thing that in the UK it's not again, it's not a left
right issue. There are there's an attack from the left on the trans communities.
It's every bit as dangerous as the one from the right, and it's
kind of I don't understand why people. I don't understand why people have to
get into each other's business in this way. And I don't understand that sometimes
people don't have any policies, so all they can do is point at something,
say it's that. It's that's the problem. And this is another example
of it. And there's another thing as well that was going to bring up
that is happening here. There's a very serious discussion about us dropping our age
of voting to sixteen, the argument being at sixteen year old people can get
married, have sex, and die for their country, so maybe we ought
to give them the vote as well. Oh and go to adult prison,
so maybe we ought to give them the vote as well. And I think
we'll actually transform the political landscape in a way that nothing else have arised.
It's equivalent here of them giving DC statehood in the US, everything would change
politically overnight. It'd be like what sort of the party called again? Do
you remember them? They had the president once? That's kind of sort of
would happened here that And I think there's a good call for it because they're
more sensible than we are. Frankly, they're more to tune to these things.
And this whole woke thing well home SECRETI is described as as the woker
rat, which I'm proud to be. I was going to get a T
shirt saying that I remember of the karate and I think I will still get
that T shirt. And it's just a cheap We're coming back to what we've
discussed earlier in other segments. People may have already seen this about how it's
a cheap Let's find another to point at because that gets people to behave in
a certain way, you know, And it's it's it's a big problem in
politics all over the world right now. It's not just us. Things such
as the UK thing, it seems to be the authoritarian part of the world
are just doing the let's let's point at them because we don't want to talk
about infrastructure before. We don't want to talk about infracture, we don't want
talk about roads, we don't have to talk about electricity, we don't want
to talk about making things green and having a green power infrastructure, which we
absolutely must do, which yeah, we don't want to do any of that.
What we want to do is point at them and go, they're the
reason, you're what things are bad, so and we'll do something about them.
And it's it's it's a growing issue and we know what it needs to
We've been there, not all that long ago, within the last ten years
it happened, it was bad, so that there is this much pushback is
great and long mate content. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what a great
conversation we've hit her today. This was an fascinating segment. I really love
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