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Thank you for listening to Depictures Media
Radio. Welcome to Policy and Rights,

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the show about the government, policy
and human rights. Welcome back to Policy

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and Rights here in de Pictures Media
Radio. I'm your host, Michael Cloggs.

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There are globally there are several threats
to international and security and peace,

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and we've been focused on over a
year now with the Russian Federation and invasion

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of Ukraine. We've also been focused
on many years with things that have happened

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in Syria, and there are incidences
in Hemen that trying to help the people

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of human build a stable government.
There are of course issues that are still

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happening in other parts of the Middle
East where global peace is at threat,

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and and well we must say that
global peace doesn't actually really exist, that

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there's still armed conflicts happening. There's
still people fighting in in waves with with

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military actions and in some cases terrorisms
and missile strikes, drone strikes, all

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these things happening around the world that
are that are keeping us away from peace.

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That there are some organizations and countries
out there that they make a mint

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off of selling weapons into armed conflict
areas. We have heard about drone strikes

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from the fresh Russian Federation against grain
houses and ports in the Ukraine that grain

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can't can't freely move the way it
needs to uh into different parts of the

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world from the Black Sea because of
the Russian Federation either drone striking, missiling

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or what have you. That there's
they have issued other initiatives that quite simply

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they've been striking civilian sites and some
of those l are simply to put fear

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into the Ukrainian people so that they
will side with the Russian Federation over their

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own government. And yeah, and
they're still trying to come up with a

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resolutions and and aid to help the
people find a stable government. They're in

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Central Africa. We've we've heard of
coups and takeovers because of people wanting to

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have control over their own destiny and
to avoid the ideas of colonialism and just

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simple corporate greed taking over their resources
so that they can't have their own freedom

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and to choose their own destiny and
choices. I want to listen to the

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United Nations as they address some of
these issues and address what is happening in

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our world that is disturbing the peace
that we need to have as a human

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race. The nine thousand, four
hundred and fifteen Meeting of the Security Council

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is called to order. At the
outset of this meeting, I should like

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on behalf of the members of the
Security Council to express our profound sadness over

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the devastating earthquake that hit Morocco last
Friday and the deadly flooding that has affected

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Libya over the past days. These
events have led to the laws of thousands

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of lives. Our thoughts are with
all those affected by this heartbreaking disasters.

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The Security Council expresses its heartfelt sympathy
and indolences to the families of the victims,

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to the people and the governments of
Libya and Morocco. I now invite

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the members of the Council to rise
and observe a minute of silence in tribute

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to the memory of the victims of
these tragic events. Thank you. The

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provisional agenda for this meeting is Threats
to International Peace and Security. The agenda

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is adopted in accordance with Rule thirty
seven of the Council's Visional Rules of Procedure.

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I invite the Representative of Ukraine to
participate in this meeting. It is

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so decided, in accordance with Rule
thirty nine of the Council's Provisional Rules of

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Procedure, I invite the following briefers
to participate in this meeting, Miss Izumi

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Nakamitsu, High Representative for Disarmament Affairs, and mister George SAMUELI Journalist. It

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is so decided the Security Council will
now begin its consideration of Item two of

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the agenda. I now give the
floor to Miss Izumi Nakamitsu. Thank you

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very much, Madam present, notam
present, Distinguished Members of the Security Council,

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Excellencies, Ladies and gentlemen. Since
my last briefing to the Security Council

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on this topic only weeks ago,
the provision of defensive military assistance to the

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armed forces of Ukraine has continued in
the context of the full scale invasion of

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Ukraine launched by the Russian Federation on
twenty fourth of February twenty twenty two.

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Environmation of the United Nations Charter and
international law, much of the information on

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transfers of weapons systems and ammunition flows
from governments is available through open sources.

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These transfers have reportedly included heavy conventional
weapons such as battle tanks, armored conbat

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vehicles, combat aircraft, helicopters,
large caliber arteriory systems, missile systems,

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and uncrewed combat area vehicles, as
well as remotely operated munitions, small arms

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and light weapons and their ammunition.
Over the last months, reported transfers of

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arms and ammunition to the Ukrainian Defense
Forces have expanded. There have also been

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reports of state transferring or planning to
transfer weapons such as uncrewed aerial vehicles and

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ammunition to the Russian Armed Forces,
including for possible use in Ukraine. Neatness

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to say any transfer of weapons must
take place within the applicable international legal and

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policy frameworks, including relevant Security Council
resolutions. Any potential or suspected by nations

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of relevant Security Council resolutions imposing sanctions
or restrictive measures if verified, are very

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concerning. Reports related to the transfer
and use of Class dimunitions throughout the war

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are also very con learning. The
Sector General has repeatedly called for an immediate

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end to the use of Class dimunitions, in line with his long standing position

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these weapons must be consigned to history, most recently in his Policy Brief or

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New Agenda for Peace the Sector General
has encouraged member states to commit to reducing

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the human cost of weapons, including
by achieving universal participation in treaties banning in

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humane and indiscriminate weapons, such as
the Convention on Class Dimunitions. We also

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take note of reports related to the
transfer of depleted uranium tank ammunition to the

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Ukrainian forces. The supply of weapons
and ammunition into any armed conflict situations raises

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significant concerns about the potential escalation of
violence and presents significant risks of diversion and

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proiferation even after the conflict has ended. Measures to address the risk of diversion

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of weapons and ammunition to unauthorized end
users and for unauthorized uses are essential for

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preventing further instability and insecurity in Ukraine, the region and beyond. Such measures

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include enforcement of marking practices, comprehensive
pre transfer diversion risk assessments, end user

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certificates including non transfer clauses, effective
legal and enforcement measures, and post shipment

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verifications. To prevent the diversion of
weapons supply chains, transparency and corporation and

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information exchange between importing, transit and
exporting states is required, as well as

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concrete measures such as marking and tracing, effective accounting and comprehensive record record keeping

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practices, physical safeguarding of arms and
ammunition, customs and border control measures,

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and divergent monitoring and analysis. As
I mentioned many times before, transparency in

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arms transfers is a crucial confidence building
measure which can serve to reduce tensions and

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ambiguities between member states. The U
and Register of Conventional Arms and ROCCA remains

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a key instrument in this regard.
In its thirty years of operation, one

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hundred seventy eight member states of Submitttal
Reporter and ROCKER, at at least once

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I callable member states to participate in
this mechanism. And ROCKER captures around ninety

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percent of global arms flows and can
help in tracking the influx of weapons in

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conflict zones. Moreover, the Arms
Straight Treaty, the Firearms Protocol, the

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Program of Action on Small Arms in
Light Weapons and its International Tracing Instrument are

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some of the arms control instruments established
by states to prevent the diversion of conventional

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arms and regulate international Arms Straight.
I welcome the conclusion of work of the

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Open Ended Working Group or WG on
Conventional Ammunition and applaud the successful adoption of

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its final report containing the new Global
Framework for Through Life Conventional Ammunition Management.

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The framework is much needed instrument to
more effectively counter the diversion of conventional ammunition

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of all types, which continued to
fuel instability, insecurity and conflict across the

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world. I retreate my call to
all states to join relevant treaties and agreements

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and to fully implement their legal obligations
under conventional arms control instruments to reach their

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party as well as their political commitments
to minimize the risk of diversion of arms

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and ammunitions. Madame President, Beyond
addressing arms transfers, all parties to the

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armed conflict of a duty to protect
civilians in armed conflict and change shaw compliance

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with applicable international law, including international
humanitarian law. From twenty fourth of February

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twenty twenty two to twenty seventh of
August this year, the Office of the

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High Commissioner for Human Rights has recorded
twenty six thousand, seven hundred seventeen civilian

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casualties in Ukraine, with nine thousand, five hundred eleven killed and seventeen thousand,

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two hundred six injured. The actual
figures are likely to be considered considerably

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higher. The vast majority of civilian
casualties are the results of the use of

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explosive weapons with wide area effects,
including by shelling from artillery tanks and multiple

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launch rocket systems, cruise and ballistic
missiles, and by air strikes. The

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continued use of large numbers of armed
uncrued aerial vehicles against civilians and civilian infrastructure

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is concerning Armed uncrued aerial vehicles must
not be used in the manner inconsistent with

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international humanitarian law. The Sector General
has unequivocally urged all size to avoid the

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use of explosive weapons in populated areas, as such use is highly likely to

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result in indiscriminate harm, including in
Ukraine. I take this opportunity to invite

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all Member States to implement the Political
Declaration on Strengthening the Protection of Civilians from

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the Humanitarian Consequences arising from the use
of Explosive Weapons in Populated Areas, adopted

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in November twenty twenty two in abroad
and meaning meaningful manner. The continued and

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intensified attacks against civilians and civilian infrastructure
and services in Ukraine, including energy,

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infrastructure, health and educational facilities,
ports, roles, bridges and grain facilities

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remain very much alarming. Under international
humanitarian law, parties to an armed con

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it are prohibited from targeting civilians and
civilian objects, including civilian infrastructure, and

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have the responsibility to take all feasible
precautions in the conduct of military operations to

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avoid or at least minimize incidental loss
of civilian life, injury to civilians,

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and damage to civilian objects. The
United Nations strongly condemned attacks against civilians and

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civilian infrastructure and urges for their immediate
cessation. Minds and explosive remnants of war

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have resulted in widespread land contamination,
rendering land unusable for agriculture while impeding the

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movements of people. I retreate my
core to all the relevant parties to avoid

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abide by their obligations under the Convention
on Certain Conventional Weapons and not to transfer

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or use any minds inhibited by its
amended protocol too. Madame President, Distinguished

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Members of the Security Council, the
past eighteen months have seen death loss,

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unbearable suffering and devastation in Ukraine.
The world cannot afford for this senseless war

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to continue. I appealed to all
member states to make every effort for peace.

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As the Sector General has repeatedly emphasized, the United Nations is committed to

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support all meaningful efforts to bring a
just and sustainable peace to Ukraine, guided

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by the United Nations Charter, international
Law and relevant General Assembly resolutions. I

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thank you very much for your attention. On eleventh September, the Members of

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the Security Council met to discuss the
situation in Yemen. They were breached by

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the UN Special Envoy Groundberg, alongside
ocha Is Jim Suya and Major General Berry.

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The members of the Security Council expressed
their support to the UN peace process

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based on the Greek references and reiterated
the urgency for a Yemeni Yemeni dialogue and

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a national wide ceasefire. The members
of the Security Council also reiterated the importance

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of making rapid and tangible progress in
the current discussions. The members of the

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Security Council stressed the need to maintain
the prevailing calm and ensure unhindered humanitarian access.

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The members of the Security Council welcomed
the efforts by Saudi Arabia and Oman

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delegations and their ongoing support to the
mediation efforts of the United Nations many of

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the process, because it seems to
have really just stalled out the last few

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Well, he's working very hard and
he asked for the support of the Council

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to his efforts in this regard,
and this is exactly what the Council,

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as I explained, now, thank
you. You know, the need for

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housing and just the idea of having
a safe an affordable place to live.

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In some reasons of the world,
safe means means safe from gunfire, missile

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strikes, drone strikes, a baby, a tank running over your home because

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you're in the path of what they
consider to be a military objective. In

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other parts of the parts of the
world, it means that you're in fear

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of some corporate developer wanting to take
over your home, tear it down,

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displace you so that you wind up
on the street, and then you not

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being able to afford to find a
new home another place to live. Either

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way, this the result is the
same that the in a lot of in

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a lot of countries and a lot
of areas, that the average person,

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working class person is having trouble finding
it a home, having trouble affording a

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home without the worry of slipping back
and losing their home the landlord evicting them

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or some developer buying up the whole
area and having having an eviction handed to

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the list way where they need to
simply move. Even though oh okay,

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so say they did receive what a
reasonable market value for their home. If

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the funding that they received for that
sale of the house that they're currently and

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doesn't help them get a new place
to live, then we good, what

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did it do? There are economic
reasons that are in existence due to inflation,

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due to corporate greed and everything that
hinder some people from having the safety

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of a home, and having a
safe home should be a human right.

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So we're actually gonna hear going bringing
everything back to Canada. We're going to

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hear from jag Meats saying as he
is talking about affordable housing, affordable rents

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for students, but the affordable rents
reaches way further than just simply to students.

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It also applies to families and how
they can afford to have enough of

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a home to safely house them mom
and dad and their children. How is

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that working out with the current rates
of inflation and how rents are becoming unreachable

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for a lot of families. With
that, of course, there was in

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British Columbia there was a cap put
on renting increases that was actually below the

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rate of inflation at three point five
percent. That may help a little bit,

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But when we look at the overall
rent in British Columbia, we have

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Vancouver, which was named recently by
several surveys to be one of the top

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five most unaffordable places to live based
on the cost of rent, food,

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and what the average income is.
So a cap of three point five percent

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for a rent increase, how helpful
is it when the rent for a one

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bedroom home or a one bedroom apartment
is still almost two thousand dollars a month.

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So why don't we listen to what
Jack Meetingh has to say about housing

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for students in this next segment?
The aster zoom should be demanded, Liz

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Lami, So I'll turn it over
to you, Junete, Thanks so much,

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Alena. I just spoke with some
graduate students here in the housy talking

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about how hard it is to find
housing. We are hearing this across the

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country, but students are particularly hard
hit. There's simply nothing available. The

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cost of renting in place is through
the roof. People are living multiple people

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to a single room just to be
able to afford rents. Soon as should

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be worried about their school, they
should be worried about their courses, worried

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about their careers, not worried about
trying to find a place to live.

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And after eight years of a liberal
government, they've not taken this seriously.

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They've not built affordable housing, and
we are in MSS where housing is more

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expensive than it's ever been before.
And in response to this, Pierre Paulio

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is not who he says he is. They just had a conference convention in

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Quebec City and thousands of resolutions probably
were vetted, made it to the floor,

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and not a single new idea on
housing coming out of their convention,

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because in reality, this is not
something that neither the Conservator or the liberals

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care about. They don't care to
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can tell you this something I care
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a little bit younger than some of
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years old, my kid brother had
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home were really rough. My dad
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to bring my kid brother to come
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old taking care of a fifteen year
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to keep food on the table.
I had to take care of my kid

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brother to make sure he never went
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is for a student to have to
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love, and also pursuing your education. It was tough. Those are tough

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times, and I'm fighting to make
sure people have affordable housing so no one

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has to worry about that. And
that's why we're committed to making sure the

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federal government uses the land that we
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the resources, the money to build
homes that people can act shoually afford.

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We need to build student housing.
We want to partner with provinces and

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educational institutions to build specifically student housing. There's a lot of commercial property,

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but there's now vacant. We need
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that we have to build housing to
convert those units into dormitories. Students should

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be able to have affordable housing.
There should not be something you have to

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worry about or stress about. We
want to build homes that people can truly

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afford, and that's what I'm committed
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for any questions you might have.
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have. We're gonna start with that
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start on site. We'll start with
that Frank for the Chronicle Herald. So

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has the Liberal government metics commitment of
an unaffordable house and did you agreed upon

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in March twenty twenty two and your
confidence and supply deal And if not,

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why do you continue to prop them
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is not done enough to build affordable
homes. We have forced the government to

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do things that they would not have
otherwise done. We are bringing in dental

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care for kids already, we brought
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By the end of this year,
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kids eighteen and undred people living in
disabilities. So we're forcing this government to

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do things that they would not have
done for people. We're forcing this government

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to act and we're going to continue
to do that. Our goal is not

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to play games like the Conservatives,
not to ignore the plight of people like

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the Liberals. We're using our power
to deliver concrete results for people, and

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we've done that with dental care,
and there's a lot more to be done.

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We're going to focus on housing now
when we resume in September. Later

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on this month, in September more
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to be on making this government build
more homes that people can afford. Give

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a fall up. Yeah, So
the NDP problems is five hundred thousand units

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of quality affordable housing in ten years
if elected through a mixture of measures with

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pregnory problems as municipalities and community housing
pregnership. So how would that point out?

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How how would you choose that?
So so a big difference between our

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approach and that of the liberals and
the Conservatives. The liberals and Conservatives want

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to just let private developers do their
thing. We know that that's not going

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to solve the problem. We have
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I spoke with builders. They're saying
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it's not actually profitable at this point
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that we need for people. So
that's why we're saying we've got to use

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federal land, federal power, and
federal resources to build homes that people can

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afford. After the World Wars,
Canada upon a mission of building homes that

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people could afford. Hundreds and thousands
of homes were built after the World Wars

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for veterans that we're returning from the
war. That's a type of effort that

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we need to do now. Mobilize
the power that we have and build hundreds

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of thousands of homes that people can
truly afford, so that young people don't

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have to worry about the cost of
housing when they graduate, they can find

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a place to call home. We
can do that, but it's going to

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take actively using the power that we
have at the federal level to build those

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affordable homes, and that's what we're
proposing. We're also saying we need to

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look at a wide variety of options, getting the GST off of affordable builds

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to incentivize building homes that are affordable, looking at not for profit and cooperative

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housing, using all the tools we
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We've got to look at this as
a is a broad problem because everyone is

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struggling with housing. We've got to
look all the solutions. We're gonna go

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to Vanessa from Global Next. Okay, can you give us some insight into

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your meeting today. What were some
of the things that the students talked about.

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We heard a lot of already stories
students that were living in tense while

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they couldn't find housing because the vacancy
rate is so low in Halifax right now.

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We've heard about students really worried about
finding a place and then not knowing

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if they could keep it because they've
heard from people that their landlords end up

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renevicting them, they end up losing
their place. Multiple people living in one

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room that's designed for one person,
four people to a room. We've heard

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stories of twelve to fourteen people living
in one apartment that's not designed for that

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many many people to live in.
Many people are just saying that that.

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We're even graduate students who have some
income coming in that with the cost of

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living what it's at, cost of
food, costs of groceries, and the

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rent going up, they just don't
know how they're going to be able to

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make it all work. A lot
of worry, a lot of fear,

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and a lot of anxiety, and
that's something that students shouldn't have to be

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faced with. There's already enough anxiety
worried about courses and exams to have to

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add on finding at home. On
top of that, we also heard from

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people that have to commute. The
only affordable places to live are maybe an

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hour two hour commutes away, so
people are all this time community to get

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to school. None of this is
good for our students. None of this

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is good for the future of our
country. If young people are more worried

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about biding at home and commuting rather
than focusing on pursuing their dreams, that's

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a problem, and that's a problem
I want to fix. To a follow

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up, I do some people have
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Is that something that you would consider. I want to be really clear on

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this point the topic of international students. International students are not to be blamed

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for the housing crisis we're in.
What we know for sure is over the

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past number of years, past decades, both the liberal and conservative governments have

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just not built affordable homes, and
we are in this crisis today because of

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subsequent governments not making the sobriety.
Under the Conservatives, when they were in

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power for ten years, they allowed
eight hundred thousand affordable homes to be sold

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to rich developers to be turned into
highly profitable rental units that no one can

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afford. And under the Liberals we
lost another two hundred thousand and affordable homes

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and the housing prices have gone up. This is not by chance, this

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is by design. They've chosen to
make our housing market really great for investors,

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a great place to make a lot
of money, but not a great

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place to find a home. That
is a choice, and I want to

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change that. We can absolutely change
the way our markets structured so it actually

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benefits people finding a home. That's
never going to be fixed. If we

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think that the same market that got
us in this problem, it's going to

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get us out of this problem.
We've got to change our approach and make

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housing about people finding a home,
not about rich developers getting even richer.

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They don't need more help what people
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We're gonna go to Martin from Coast
Media next. That's just saying you

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mentioned commercial units being a possibility to
free up vacant room. Are you looking

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at other jurisdictions, other municipalities as
a president for something like this. Yeah,

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So we've seen a lot of a
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A lot of commercial buildings are going
vacant now because businesses are changing their

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models. They're not using off the
space the same way, and so we've

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got a lot of opportunity with those
commercial properties that could be converted into student

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dormitory. Specifically, we've seen a
project like that in Toronto right beside the

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University of the University of Toronto on
Spidna, a project where building was converted

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and it's now being turned into student
housing. We need to do more of

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that. We need to see the
federal government be more actively involved in using

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the opportunities that we have with vacant
commercial properties, vacant federal land, and

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using that to build homes that people
can actually afford, where students can actually

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afford. That's something that we have
to do. It's not an option.

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Right now, we're seeing how bad
things are getting and without any action,

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it's just going to get worse.
That's why we're pushing for this bold action

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that's really going to put people first. Give a fall up. Additionally,

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what do you say to those who
voice concerns about your own stake and property

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investment given your spouse spouse is holding
up an investment property. But we have

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a home in Burnaby where we live
and we only need one part of the

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home, so we rent out the
basement. I think that's a reasonable thing

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to do. We don't need the
whole space, and that gives someone else

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a home. Our tenet there is
able to live a great life. He's

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got. It's two kids that come
live with them, and we think that's

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an important thing. But I absolutely
agree that for too long, the housing

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market has been set up and been
designed to make rich investors richer. That's

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something I want to take on.
You're not gonna hear, Paul, You

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I've ever mentioned that, You're not
gonna hear true to ever mentioned that.

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I'm saying it directly. There's a
problem. If our housing market continues to

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make rich investors richer and people keep
on falling behind. That is unsustainable.

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That is not something that's going to
work for our future. That's not working

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right now, and I'm very hopefully
saying we've got to take that on.

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We've got to change our approach and
make sure housing is designed for people to

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find at home, not for someone
to get rich quick off of. And

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that's how it's been for a long
time. If you look at Canada compared

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to other countries around the world,
the increase in costs in Canada far exceed

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other chie seven countries. Because our
housing market is great for an investor to

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put money in and then see their
profits go up. But it's not great

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for someone to find at home.
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do we make our world a little
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effect on our individual governments? And
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are without governments, without these sort
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we help them build them so that
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about what they're about for the people, and that they stay within the control

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and reach of the people so that
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if medical systems and food systems so
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