WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.399 --> 00:00:06.400 All right, listen up, Cave's I got your assignments riga six four three 2 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:12.240 wheeler one four eight not eight oh four, and only you. You need 3 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:16.440 to join host HP and fatherm Alone as they examine one of the greatest sitcoms 4 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:23.000 in television history, Taxi in Night, Mister Walters a taxi podcast banda zero 5 00:00:23.559 --> 00:01:11.359 like your boxing record. Thank mister Walters. Weird were right. It's time 6 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:30.040 Welcome back to Midnight Viewing the Horror Anthology podcast. I'm your host, Father 7 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:36.040 Malone. We've got a very special bonus episode. Now, ordinarily we're only 8 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:41.079 covering horror anthology television, but on our bonus episodes, I'd like to take 9 00:01:41.120 --> 00:01:44.040 to shape things up a little bit. And in this case, we are 10 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:49.560 looking at a cinema classic from nineteen eighty one, that is Gerald Potterton's Heavy 11 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:59.120 Metal. Columbia Pictures presents heavy Metal a trip beyond the future, to a 12 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:07.319 universe you've never seen before. A universe of mystery, a universe of passionate 13 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:15.240 fantasies, a universe of terrifying evil, a universe of magic. Kind of 14 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:49.840 heavy metal, heavy metal, a step beyond science fiction. Joining me in 15 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:53.680 the Midnight view This evening are the Swamp Media Group, the creators of Space 16 00:02:53.840 --> 00:03:01.240 Detective, the best animated Slash Live Ancient Slash Detective Slash Local Las Vegas, 17 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:06.080 and Space Movie You've never seen but you're going to. Where can we find 18 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:08.159 that movie? Guys? We can watch it at our websites right now, 19 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:15.159 Space detectivemovie dot com and Swampmedia Group dot com. We're doing kind of a 20 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.719 remaster right now, so it's gonna be available to download and stream on bigger 21 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.080 platforms here pretty soon, but for right now, go to the websites. 22 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:27.960 The voice you're hearing is the director of that particular flick, mister Antonio Lapoor 23 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.120 Hi Antonia, Welcome top in night Viewing. Hello there, Father Malone, 24 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:37.439 and the other half of this devilish duo, the Swamp Media Group, Ladies 25 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:42.960 and gentlemen, the star of Space Detective, mister Matt Schaffi rutin So And 26 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.800 like I said, we are discussing nineteen eighty one's Heavy Metal. Now. 27 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:52.319 This is an anthology film, our first animated anthology film, probably our last 28 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:58.080 animated anthology film. This one barely qualifies under the horror category, except right 29 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:00.080 in the center of it, there's a genius piece support. Oh god. 30 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:04.000 Yeah, before we get going on sort of our deeper discussion of the movie 31 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:10.439 itself, Antonio, what is your what was your first experience with Heavy Metal? 32 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:14.479 Oh? My god, you know, I mentioned this to my sister 33 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:18.319 today on the phone, maybe eight or nine, watching at my sister's house, 34 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:24.360 and it was on HBO and it was the Harry Canyons sequence and there 35 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:29.519 was some cartoon titties and like, those were my first cartoon boobs I had 36 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:32.519 ever seen. I had seen maybe a Playboy somewhere before, but they came 37 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:36.759 in the cartoon for and I got caught watching it pretty quickly. That was 38 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:40.879 the end of it. What about you, Matt, that's a common story. 39 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:45.480 Well, you're mat that's pretty similar to my origin story seeing HD. 40 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:49.759 I had older brothers who had the magazines, so I was vaguely familiar with 41 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:57.079 heavy Metal before the movie. I remember seeing the trailer film, oh wow, 42 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:01.839 No I don't in the theater and just be actually frightened by because it 43 00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:04.879 just seemed so unlike. I mean, the movie came out in eighty one, 44 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:10.319 so I was eight when I saw the trailer, and yeah, it 45 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:13.519 seemed very scary to me. But then once it got to HBO, like, 46 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:16.680 y'all, oh my god, I was all in all the time. 47 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:21.160 I will say that before it, like you man, I had one brief 48 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:27.279 sort of interaction with Heavy Metal magazine. I had older, very irresponsible cousins, 49 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:30.639 and my cousin Bruce had a stack of heavy metals fittingly enough, in 50 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:34.600 the restroom, and so I went in there and saw them. And apparently 51 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:38.519 I was in there for an hour and a half because when I came out, 52 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:41.079 everyone was like, what the fuck are you doing? Then I was 53 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:44.480 like nothing, and I like he's looking at the titty magazines. I'm like, 54 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:48.279 hey, yeah. Seeing the movie was just an amazing experience. But 55 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.639 it was legendary, like you know, on the school yard or whatever, 56 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:55.560 like you was seen Heavy Mep. Dude. My brother saw it. He 57 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:58.839 said, it's awesome, you know, and they would sneak some pages from 58 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:00.240 the comic or whatever. They you know, sneak a comic to the school 59 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:03.720 or something because you know the comic and titties in it too. And but 60 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:08.360 that movie was legendary. And then you know, eventually I got to see 61 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:12.399 all of that on HBO, and you know, when it was on, 62 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.720 and I think I might have seen an edited version on like TVs or something, 63 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:19.360 you know. But the first time I really got into it, I 64 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:23.680 must have been in high school or something, or college or I don't know, 65 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.240 when they got re released and we went to a midnight screening of it. 66 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:29.399 Yeah, I was gonna ask if you oh yeah, and it was 67 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:32.160 just like whoa, this is amazing. I can't believe they don't make them 68 00:06:32.199 --> 00:06:35.959 like this anymore. But I remember that whole period was pretty hot though, 69 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:41.040 like it was too young for me to to interact with. But I got 70 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:43.920 it all on video when I was in high school. But like those years 71 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.000 was like Wizards and a heavy Metal and I think Heavy Metals are a good 72 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:53.759 companion piece for American pop. They had a great double feature American Pop. 73 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:59.759 I watched it last year on Amazon and that's really depressing. Oh it's like 74 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.040 recen in That is such a down er. Thank God for having metal Heavy 75 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:04.959 would have to be the second billing because you get picked up for it. 76 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:10.079 I'm glad you brought rough Box yet. Yeah, because prior to Heavy Metal, 77 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:12.680 really he was the only game in town. He was the only game 78 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.639 in town unless you were in France, where they had Fantastic Planet which probably 79 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:20.000 launched this entire fantastic planet. Yeah, that kind of launched heavy Metal, 80 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:25.680 I think, Yeah, the magazine in general. Do you think that heavy 81 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:30.199 Metal influenced Was it an immediate reaction? Do you think it opened doorways for 82 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:35.399 adult animation because I recall growing up that anything that was animated or a comic 83 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:39.000 book, and you guys can relate to this. I'm sure Whisker kids, 84 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:42.279 it was for kids. My late sister rest you know got Restler. She 85 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:44.800 used to make fun of me when I was a kid, you know, 86 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:48.519 like all your cartoons and all the yellow toys, and I'm like, you're 87 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:53.040 all that your more cartoons. I'm like, we talked about this is sophisticated 88 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.839 stuff. You know. I was a high school reading Vertigo comic, so 89 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.399 I thought I was, you know, you know, sip and tea with 90 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:01.839 the Queen because I you know, because it was so sophisticated. But no, 91 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:07.519 was always for kids. I think that maybe not an immediate reaction. 92 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.519 I think it opened the door for a Kerau to play in the United States. 93 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:15.800 The people who were saying that to us were so fucking wrong. They're 94 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.240 absolutely right. That's the thing. I think we all knew to Yeah, 95 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.639 just keep talking like you can tell me this is for kids, but I 96 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:24.600 know this is for adults. It was made by adults or adult you dummies, 97 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.759 I don't think I think it opened the door more for that kind of 98 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.240 grown up anime. I don't think American studios wanted to touch it. Well, 99 00:08:31.320 --> 00:08:35.600 that stuff has been flirted with all throughout. There's always a flirtation with 100 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.000 it, but they never really want to commit. I'd tell you a story 101 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.240 right off the bat. So Matt and I had an own writing Partner's got 102 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:46.799 Nick creature he writes nowadays, And Matt and that dude wrote this great script 103 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.720 called The Dead Killer that I helped him out with a little bit. We 104 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:54.679 developed it into an animated show pitch because we picked up a meeting at twentieth 105 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.159 Century Fox. And you know, our partner, that dude, that dude, 106 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:01.360 I think he had at some doing Disneyland or something, and he was 107 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.799 an executive Fox Animation, that's what it says, nineteen ninety nine, two 108 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:09.080 thousand something like that. And he read the script and flipped for it, 109 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:11.759 and then we went we pitched it a little bit more with some drawings, 110 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.840 and then one day about a month or two later, we get a package 111 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.480 of the mail hey Man tightening. He came out and the tanked, and 112 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:24.679 I got fired the whole He's like the whole place, The whole animation division 113 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:28.679 got shut down because it's one movie, right, the tight because they tried 114 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:31.080 to make something that wasn't a Disney cartoon, that was something that maybe teenagers 115 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:35.960 could watch. Don't you love Hollywood launching. Yeah, a movie comes out 116 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:39.159 and it's bad and it doesn't do well, and suddenly that genre is dead. 117 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:41.480 Fuck you guys talking What was it? Rock and roll? That was 118 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:46.480 another one. Oh yeah, that definitely, and or in the Star Chaser, 119 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:48.480 which was kind of a Star Wars rip off. That one, it 120 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.840 wasn't a lot going on, but by the time A Kira I think was 121 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:54.840 the big one, and then after that I was it because that was when 122 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.919 the Disney renaissance happened. Gakira came out, and then a year later, 123 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:01.919 a year or two later, A Little Mermaid and then that was it and 124 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.120 it's for kids now and it's gonna be musical comedies up until Toy Story. 125 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:11.759 Then it became what we have today since we're talking animation, but really gonna 126 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:18.200 start back In the nineteen seventies there was a French magazine called Pilote which featured 127 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:22.080 and was co created by a French artist who went by the name of Mobius. 128 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:26.279 Well, yeah, everybody knows Movius and then well you'd be surprised. 129 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:31.320 And then so seventy five he co creates heavy metal. He's one of the 130 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.519 primary contributors to it. If you actually he created metal Herlant, which is 131 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:41.000 the French name for it, which to me I always assumed was French for 132 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:45.919 heavy metal. It's not. Oh, it's not howling metal, a much 133 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.480 better name. This is your emazine of branch is more Molly. Don't you 134 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:54.799 see if they had named the film howling metal, would we have had a 135 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:58.840 heavy metal soundtrack? I oh, I don't think we have a heavy metal 136 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:03.559 soundtrack and heavy metal with but Nazas on the sound Yeah, but I'm not 137 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:09.159 in nineteen eighty one and there's no Iron Maiden or anywhere on there, or 138 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:11.919 real Black Sabbath anywhere on there, or Sammy Hagar's on there. Yeah, 139 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:18.240 exactly. Don Felders in there, so Stevie Nicks and like Journey the Mistake 140 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.240 and Jerney, Stevie Nicks hit the soundtrack, because that was her first solo, 141 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:24.840 in her first song first and they bury it. It's like on the 142 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:28.840 radio for two seconds. I think she probably just watched the clip of the 143 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.759 guys doing all that blow and on the spaceship and she's like, oh, 144 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:37.879 I can relate. Here's mist of the bands who were commissioned to write songs 145 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:41.080 for the film, how many of them thought they were writing the theme song? 146 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.720 Oh, I'm sure all of the right. Like every song is named 147 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:48.200 Sammy Hagar is like, does Ammy Hanger for God's Sake? Has the heavy 148 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:52.600 Metals song. When you hear that song in particular, one must assume that's 149 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:56.759 the title track. No, yeah, he's yelling at yeah, gotta be 150 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:01.519 Nope, just just in the sequence. So have v metal attracts the attention 151 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:05.600 of the publishers for at the time, National Lampoop. That makes sense. 152 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:07.759 It was over in France trying to sell National Lampoom when he picked up a 153 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.879 copy of it and thought, Jesus Christ, this will translate easily. It's 154 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:15.840 very little dialogue, and it's all graphic and it's all beautiful. God damn. 155 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.720 He was right. So nineteen seventy seven we got heavy metal magazine. 156 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:22.840 A lot of the first issues of Heavy Metal were just effectively reprints of the 157 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:28.240 French but a few American artists started getting in there, people like Richard Corbin 158 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.080 and a writer by the name of Dan O'Bannon. He's gonna figure it into 159 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:35.960 our conversation later in the first seven issues of Actually Metal hood Lot he started 160 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:41.840 before Heavy Metals start. Oh Yeah, yeah, a detective noir outer space 161 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:46.399 adventure, which effectively inspired Harry knyon Okay yeah, because Harry Canyon just wanted 162 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.759 the originalist. But he wrote to Harry Kanyon bit though, right, I 163 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:54.080 believe him, and lent blue. He wrote two bits for the Heavy Metal 164 00:12:54.080 --> 00:13:01.000 movie. Those are soft Landing begins okay and B seven okay. So Heavy 165 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:05.320 Metal proves popular. But even more popular than that was a movie in nineteen 166 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:09.240 seventy eight called Animal House. Yeah, got the attention of all the studios 167 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.600 who were suddenly interested in anything mister Ivan Wrightman, the director or not the 168 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:16.399 director, the producer of the Animal House, wanted to do, and just 169 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:18.879 so happens, he wanted to make an animated film based on Heavy Metal and 170 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:26.039 they let him. Initially attempting to adapt Mobius's most popular early run of the 171 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:30.879 comic, which was character named Azrak. Azrak was a wandering warrior in a 172 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:35.240 future maybe alien wasteland, and he rides a terradactyl and he goes, you 173 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:39.240 know, he yeah, he gets into h They're basically little vignettes through it. 174 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.840 So their initial draft just freely adapted Azrak, and then Mobius heard that 175 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:50.360 and said, no, you cannot use any of my stuff, so all 176 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:56.279 Mobias was banned basically. So what they ended up adapting was Den Richard Corbin's 177 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:01.080 Yeah, the Richard Corbin and the Captain Stern, Yeah, Stern Berdie Wrights 178 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:05.399 and comic strip so beautiful, so dead lying. That's another one. And 179 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.840 Tarna the final story is an original, but really it's just a fucking yeah, 180 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.519 isn't she descended of Azarak or something like that? But they changed it 181 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.240 just enough, just enough, right na ar Nak, Yeah, that's what 182 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:22.080 it was. Because you know what I noticed, I habited, you know, 183 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:24.960 the little notes it took for last time I watched it. I watched 184 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.559 the credits, and I wanted to see Moby says nowhere in those credits because 185 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.440 he didn't want to do it. He didn't want to have anything to do. 186 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:33.720 But I'm just watching you and I was just like, movie has drew 187 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.240 everything. Well, I mean they just took his style. Yeah, they 188 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:43.519 took his style for Harry Kanyon, and they took antile for Tara the Harry 189 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.320 Kanyon in particular. So goddamn movies if you were to put any shot from 190 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:50.360 Harry Kanyon against anything from the Fifth Element to be like indistinguishable. Yeah, 191 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.480 and you know what, I hate the Fall, Yeah, I think it 192 00:14:54.600 --> 00:15:01.720 is absolutely beautiful, certain and the fantastic Yeah in that yeah, I love 193 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:05.440 that war without those characters. Yeah, in that fucking plot. Like when 194 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.039 I sat down and the movie started, I turned to my friend and I 195 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.799 said, it's the Fifth Element is love. I'm gonna burn this place like 196 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:15.559 the granted and that theater is no longer there. Yeah. The only thing 197 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:20.840 I enjoyed in that movie was Gary Olman, Yes, and President Zeus and 198 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:24.279 those aliens were those practical aliens. Yeah. The effects the creatures were great 199 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:28.039 and like even like the hot Lady, you know, the blue alien, 200 00:15:28.159 --> 00:15:31.840 yeah, like they or the Stewardess is old like super model. Yeah, 201 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:35.639 but the minute boos Willis shows up with that dyed hair, the pink and 202 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:41.279 the Pink Tank table leone. No, now the script has written interwove the 203 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:45.639 five stories. Like I said, they were copying the initial Metal her Lant 204 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:48.799 stories, the Azrak stories. In those you would get a few pages of 205 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.559 Azrak and then another story, and then a few more pages of Azrak. 206 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:56.360 So they were making the film more serialized. So the Tarna story was going 207 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:58.879 to thread throughout. I don't know when that changed. I'm assuming once they 208 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:03.759 started cutting the movie together they realized that cutting away from a story hurts the 209 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:07.960 story. Yeah, like an incredible amount. And this puts a story in 210 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:11.440 particular because it's so spare. So the order keeps changing, the rap around 211 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:17.279 story keeps changing. Okay, here's something I ask all of our how important 212 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:19.759 is a wrap around story to you? In an You know? That's funny 213 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:23.720 because we've been kicking around and as our follow up feature was, we've always 214 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:29.639 kind of been leaning towards an anthology. And that's a good question because I 215 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.000 kind of like the framing device, you know what I mean. I like 216 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:37.600 being able to like kind of interweave the story because otherwise it's just it's separate. 217 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.600 It's just a collection of short films, right, You know which can 218 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:45.080 work if it's a theme, because it works because I think that last Coen 219 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:48.600 Brothers movie was I like Buster scrugs. I liked a lot. I love 220 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.320 that, you know, and they're really kind of not connected at all the 221 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.240 other besides the theme, but I think connecting with stories and a certain way 222 00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:00.679 it brings it all, yeah, versus just an anthology or there's a story, 223 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:06.240 here's a story, you thread something through it all. By the end, 224 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.599 the view with the audience is like, oh wow, connect it. 225 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:18.519 Let me watch this again now. Yeah. The example of fiction, I 226 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:21.599 mean pulp fiction. I mean, you know, at the very least the 227 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:23.359 best movie of the nineties, right like, or at least the most lauded 228 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:26.440 movie of that of that time. I mean you can argue, you know, 229 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:30.839 you know, other pictures and stuff, but anyways, everybody loves pulp 230 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.200 fiction. I know I love it. I got a pulp fiction T shirt. 231 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.359 Anywhere I go, when I wear the pulp fiction shirt, I get 232 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:40.759 compliments. But what I like about that picture is it is an anthology, 233 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.000 but everything is connected and the characters meet each other and all that stuff, 234 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:47.519 you know, and it's kind of altman kind of does that stuff too. 235 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:52.200 You know. Yeah, shortcuts, you know, and even mashed to a 236 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:57.279 certain degree, is episodic. So rather than an anthology, it's connected episodes 237 00:17:57.319 --> 00:18:02.559 of because it's not really a plot that just here's five plots that we just 238 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:06.480 make one movie out of. Tales from the Hood has as doesn't it have. 239 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:10.720 It has the framing device right as the Clarence Williams the third stories, 240 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:15.000 Yeah, to these thugs who have broken into his mortuary, and that works 241 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:18.079 because it pays off at the end of the movie because he's the motherfucking dolly. 242 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:22.119 Yeah, it's great. I did not like the movie Trick or Treat, 243 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:23.359 but I thought they did it well there. They kind of had a 244 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:27.480 character thready through it. We were talking. I told you the last episode 245 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:30.920 we did was Cat's Eye. That we had the cat running through each of 246 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:33.240 the stories. Yeah, played a part in each of it, but could 247 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.359 have been stronger, but like almost was there because the last story was entirely 248 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.559 about I don't remember the seventies Tales from the Creek. I remember that. 249 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:47.119 Here's the thing. Anicist films basically had the same framing device for all of 250 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:53.680 their stories, which is five strangers are grouped together unexpectedly and then are either 251 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:59.759 told stories or tell each other stories and then they're in hell. Yes, 252 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:03.960 that was Tales from the Crypt. It's Ralph Richardson as the keeper telling them 253 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.839 stories. Balti Horror was like five strangers in an elevator and they get off 254 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:10.000 on a floor and they don't know where they are, and so they start 255 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:14.279 talking about their nightmares. I was a big fan of like the anthology comic 256 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:18.400 series and stuff too, Like you know, like in the nineties they had 257 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:22.319 different It wasn't like Tales from the Crypt or anything like that, but I 258 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:25.960 had beautiful stories for ugly children. They read that, yeah, and I'm 259 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:29.359 like, man, what a great modern anthology that can make, because I 260 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:34.000 don't think I've ever heard a better title than that. Okay, you guys 261 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:41.160 are comic guys, Yeah, what anthology horror or otherwise? Comics are you 262 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:44.640 know stick out to you over the years. Obviously easy comics. We all 263 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:48.680 need stuff. Yeah, okay, but since then, you know what I 264 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:56.519 had mostly were alien like the Dark Horse Alien series in the late eighties and 265 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.200 the early nineties. Was this not serialized? Was it? No? They 266 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.359 were all like they were like, well are they like you know what you 267 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:07.240 know? Three or four issue one off or they were you know, short 268 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:10.519 story collections, or they were you know, yeah, they were mostly like 269 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:14.839 one off mini series or like one shots. So here's a question, given 270 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:19.720 the current television landscape, morons, why not throw all the dark Horse alien 271 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:23.240 things into a series? Yeah, like, stop this fighting between fenn Ay 272 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:27.640 Alvarez and Ridley's Scan and all these other Neil blom camp I'm so tired of 273 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:32.759 hearing Aborted fifth. By the way, the more I hear about that movie, 274 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:36.880 the less interesting. Oh really, yeah, like the derelict ship was 275 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:41.359 made of human DNA. Now for some reason that he can we just get 276 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:45.759 back to their scary things out in the universe. I sometimes we'll come for 277 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:49.519 you. Well, everybody nobody liked Alien three when it came out, not 278 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:52.519 even poor David Fincher, who went on to be David Fincher. But when 279 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:59.160 he started, he's like, but what we made Alien three? Doubly disappointing? 280 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:02.839 Was I had right? Al Earthwar? Oh? Yeah, an Alien 281 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:06.279 Earth War? It was amazing. It was a grown up Newt and Ripley 282 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:08.559 having to fight off the Aliens when they got to Earth. Because someone tagged 283 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:12.440 along. I'm like, what and it was great, and Sam Keith drew 284 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:17.599 it and it was beautiful, and then I got that too good. It 285 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:21.680 was too good to good adapted. I would have taken the William Gibson screenplay 286 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.920 for Alien three. It was in a space station. It was new and 287 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:27.759 Hicks and Ripley was not in the picture becausey knew cigarette and we wasn't gonna 288 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:30.799 come back like she was. They had to get her, basically, oh 289 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.519 Jesus. And it was like aliens rampaging through the station. Basically if you've 290 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:38.640 played the Alien Isolation game, Yeah, that's what it was. Okay, 291 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:44.920 alien greeting. As soon as the killed New Hicks, I just lost it. 292 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:48.839 Yeah, do you want to heat? Why did we go through Aliens? 293 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.599 Yeah? Just so as far as I'm concerned, I have. They 294 00:21:52.599 --> 00:21:56.000 haven't made any more alien movies after Aliens. I liked Prometheus, but like 295 00:21:56.039 --> 00:22:00.400 as an alien Pilla and I just thought Promethe this was interesting. But for 296 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.799 Metheus is a fine movie about something other than the alien. Yeah, I 297 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:06.720 know, it's just like, okay, well, you know, let's dive 298 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:11.839 into the movie itself. Starting okay, starting with what I consider probably the 299 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:18.640 greatest credit reveal of all times shadow fall over the universe, and evil will 300 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:45.279 grow in its path and death will come from the skies. Oh yeah, 301 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:49.920 that with the screeching metal Yeah, and the heavy metal logo coming in with 302 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.279 the heavy metal logo first of all, is just gorgeous and it's beautiful. 303 00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:59.160 Yeah, but it is fantastically animated. Yeah is it animated. It's not 304 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.079 a model, right, it might be posted, It might be both, 305 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:06.599 because there is a little mixture. Because I remember that shot at the end 306 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:08.599 of the house blows up. I remember looking more terrible when I was a 307 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:11.599 kid and I just watched that, David, you look pretty good. It 308 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:14.480 does look good, yeah, and does look pretty good. I mean, 309 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:17.799 look, the fact is the release date got pushed up by three months and 310 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:19.039 they weren't able to sco. Yeah, they really just went fuck it, 311 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:22.880 let's leave it. But I maintained that it kind of brings us back to 312 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.759 reality. It works, like you know, brings us back to the real 313 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:32.359 But the opening of the of the logo is is great and then the trailer 314 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:36.680 has but like I mean, with the Alma burnsteam music and look the thunder 315 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:38.640 and all that did, that's a great reveal. You were cream ass sure 316 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:44.240 I'm fantastic, all right. Story number one, As I said, the 317 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:47.920 final order ends up like this. We start with soft and Landing, which 318 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:51.079 was written by Dan O'Bannon. It was actually Soft Landing did appear in Heavy 319 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:55.640 Metal magazine Daniel Alien, right, yeah he did. And Dark Star yes 320 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:57.559 he did. Yeah, and Return of the Living Dead and Return of the 321 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:00.359 Living to that. So off Landing, like I said, I've written by 322 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:03.839 Dana Bannett. I think it was originally drawn by Mobius as well. And 323 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:07.279 it's not a story at all. It was always just an impression. I 324 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:12.519 think that's how Dan O'Bannon described its space shuttle opening its cargo doors. Out 325 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:17.759 comes a fucking corvette with an astronaut and it enters the atmosphere, lands, 326 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:19.960 crash lands, then hits the parachute. Yeah, I mean that was the 327 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:23.920 thing. It hits the parasurd after your lands, which is a great gag 328 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:27.920 but actually made sense in the comic. If you read the comic, the 329 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:32.960 car is skidding out of control, the tire of all and then he hits 330 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:37.039 it. So like somehow that didn't get translated, but it makes it better. 331 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.960 In the animated film, This is Grimaldi, This is the wrap around 332 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:47.400 segment they've ended up with. Initial versions of it included a carousel with the 333 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:52.480 young what will eventually be the Tarakian girl, like getting on each of the 334 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.640 different characters that would feature into the story, including like a B seventeen. 335 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.279 Would you not fucking die to go on a carousel that had a B seven? 336 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:03.400 You could see? Yeah right, totally good Lord that got scrapped. 337 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.319 I think they try a couple of others, but it ends up being Grimaldi 338 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:12.359 is has arrived, presumably from space with a with a gift for his daughter, 339 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:15.519 glowing green arm, the Locknar. As soon as he opens it up, 340 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:19.680 he is disintegrated. This or he melts. He doesn't melt. Melting 341 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:26.039 and disintegration. We're gonna be seeing lots a gay against Space detective where the 342 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:29.799 guy he opens up a little box and he hits the button and the ray 343 00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:32.759 sheets out and the guy melts the head. We got his soles right. 344 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:37.400 The combination of the Harry Kanyon and this guy because we melt and Harry Kanyon, 345 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:38.640 it just turns whatever we'll get to in a minute. But yeah, 346 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:45.519 yeah, So the Locknar begins immediately menacing the little girl Lily, but Grimaldi 347 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.960 looks like a pervert. He takes that helmet of Even as a kid, 348 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:53.319 I'm like it was with this greasy guy underneath that holmet, Like he's got 349 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:59.599 like that that like Charles Bronson hair with the stripe and in an al mustache. 350 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.839 Even again, when I watched it again, like greasyly, I had 351 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.720 never considered it. Yeah, he was just like a gonna change my perception 352 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:14.200 for the law. We'll come to discover the Lawner voiced by mister Percy Rodriguez. 353 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:18.240 He's a thespian in his own right. However, if he's known at 354 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:22.920 all, it's because of his fantastic pipes. He is a trailer voiceover guy 355 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.480 extraordinary all through the nineteen seventies. Go back and watch the Jaws trailer on 356 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:33.799 YouTube. That's Percy Rodriguez. There is a creature alive today who has survived 357 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:41.599 millions of years of evolution, without change, without passion, and without logic. 358 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:51.960 It lives to kill. A mindless eating machine. It will attack and 359 00:26:52.039 --> 00:27:02.759 devour anything. It is as if God created the devil and gave him shaws. 360 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.200 Watch the Return of the Living Dead trailer. That's Percy Rodriguez. He's 361 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:11.079 a Commodore on Star Trek. That's right, absolutely Marshall episode. Yeah, 362 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:12.640 he was in the Valley of the Dog No Peyton Place. He was in 363 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:18.319 the Peyton Place TV series back in the early sixties and featured here as the 364 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:25.720 Lockner. What a fucking fantastic voice. My power of invest lin Ah gotta 365 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:30.799 see all Dama. Overall, I don't really like the wrap around segment here, 366 00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:33.799 but the fact that it was able to give us Percy Rodriguez speaking as 367 00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:38.400 a dramatic character and not just a voice hovering over images of Chevy Chase, 368 00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:45.680 I think it works fantastically. Any thoughts on the Lockner here? Is that 369 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:49.000 original? Yeah? That the green Ball? Yes, the Green Ball actually 370 00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:53.319 is from comics. It is. Yeah, it originated in the Den comic 371 00:27:53.599 --> 00:28:00.640 Richard Corbin's where the boy gets zapped to the fantasy world where he's in that 372 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:04.039 there is a thing called the Locknar. It is a source of pure evil. 373 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:07.799 It doesn't have a personality. It's certainly not a storyteller that soon you 374 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:14.240 will. What always freaked me out as a kid was the way too adult 375 00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:19.599 drawn little girl face as she has reacting to the lock Ages like eighty years 376 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:23.480 ago, like Peter, and she's going through all the emotions like horror, 377 00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:27.319 like the real anger, like the last shot is this terrifying? Yeah, 378 00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:33.279 good lord man. So locknar Lockdart tanks us into our first story. This 379 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.759 is Harry Canyon. This is an original quote unquote like I said this, 380 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.440 Oh okay, so story here is once again, the Locknark plays a feature 381 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:47.039 role in it. The lockner is dug up by some fucking in the script 382 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.519 in this and then that draft of the script that's connected to the Grimaldi one, 383 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:55.640 isn't it. Yeah, because yeah, that's the thing, Like the 384 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.880 script ends up being the movie ends up being really disjointed, but you have 385 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.799 no idea because it's a fractured plotline anyway. But yeah, all of these 386 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:10.000 stories were more intertwined as it sort of began, and a lot got lost 387 00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:14.160 in the translation. And that's due to budget. That's due to not enough 388 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.519 time for the animators. That's what you want us to do, Gremlins, 389 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.640 So we end up getting scaled down. But here's Harry Canyon. It's the 390 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.680 story of a cab driver in New York City. New York City looks a 391 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.400 lot like the nineteen seventies. If it just kept growing vertically. Yeah, 392 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.000 and including punks, which I think in the script it's like they're referring to 393 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.319 him as like a retropunk, but you could see him probably opposite. So 394 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.160 you know the lot now is that you know, this is just a typical 395 00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.960 noir story, almost too typical in a way, but certainly not from when 396 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.680 I was a kid. I thought this was a fucking genius episode starring Richard 397 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:53.119 Romans big brother dmone and the star of meeting Oh really whoa yeah, playing 398 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.400 Harry Canyon. That's the only voice I recognized in this particular episode. There 399 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.720 aren't any Oh no, so sorry for John. Can't John Canna. I 400 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:04.759 got that in my notes too. You know, it's a shame we missed. 401 00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:10.359 We lost him so young. He he would have killed him like animated 402 00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:15.119 cartoons for the rest of his like, cause he's got the best cartoon voice, 403 00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.359 man, even if it was high or low or whatever, it's perfect. 404 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.039 Like he's dead. It does the little kid voice. It all started 405 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.920 when I found the green meteorite. Oh he's fantastic, man, little kid 406 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:32.359 Boss and the adult and the adult boys and the illegal alien called yeah and 407 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.279 this, hey man, what are you gonna do? Yeah, someone's after 408 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:40.720 the lockdown, criminals after the lock now the daughter of this professor who found 409 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:45.079 it, a voluptuous, redheaded, blue eyed lady, the first of many 410 00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:48.640 red headed, blue eyed ladies. And again, you know our movie Space 411 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.240 Detectively borrowed, not borrowed, but like this was a big inspiration for just 412 00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:56.400 that, the noir picture with the future and all that. And I loved 413 00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.599 that voiceover. You know, it was really well done, really well written. 414 00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.920 You know, it was poetic, you know, and it was dirty, 415 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.880 and it was kind of like Harry King is not a great guy at 416 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:11.759 all. I mean, Space Detective is is morevent you know, more superheroish, 417 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.400 I guess. And in terms of like character, you know, but 418 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:18.519 Harry Kane is a dirt bag man. Yeah, he's like a like a 419 00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.160 Sam Space Yeah, more like a dattional Hammon. But he's even worse. 420 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:26.400 I mean, like he just kills that girl. I mean like he goes, 421 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:29.799 yeah, she would have killed me. I'm like, she hadn't threatened 422 00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:30.720 to kill you. She's like, I'm just gonna take it all and leave, 423 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.319 and she was I'm like, even fuck you. Like he's quick with 424 00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:37.559 that tedtle man. He is quickly he's quid with the bad. Yeah, 425 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.039 Harry King is not a good guy. Yeah, but I totally agree with 426 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:42.960 you. Like the voice over here works in every way that the voiceover and 427 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.160 Blade Ruther doesn't. Yeah, exactly, these voys are Blade word. It's 428 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.119 just the worst. Yeah, because first of all, Richard Reminis is doing 429 00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:52.160 a good performance. Yeah, and the script has come up to the level 430 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.480 of noir writing. In this case, not a detective at all, just 431 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:02.839 some guy. But the fact that it's line is New York deal, Yeah, 432 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.839 a big deal. And what's up that sandwich? He means, it's 433 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:14.240 like it's like it's like mayonnaise, but it's like thick, but it's it's 434 00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:16.240 on a sandwich has already been sitting out. Yeah. That's the thing that 435 00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.039 bugs me is he walks into the sandwich is sitting there. He goes to 436 00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.200 the fridge and just getst this jar of like you said, mayonnaise, but 437 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:27.480 way too thick they Yeah, then slathers on the Yeah, that has been 438 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.240 sitting out for who's how long? Harry, what are you doing man? 439 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.319 You know as a fen fintale, You know, Okay, I'm gonna have 440 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.880 to, you know, fuck this guy in order to get what I want, 441 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.240 but like feel badfroom, like she's gotta fuck with this guy. This 442 00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:44.880 is the first of several depictions of ladies. Now, this was the scene 443 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:46.319 where I got caught by my sister. Was when she's like, Harry, 444 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:51.000 there I sleep with you, which is almost in the trailer they have the 445 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:54.319 moment where she's almost undone. Yeah, that piqued my interest. Guys. 446 00:32:54.480 --> 00:33:00.640 A pretty consistent criticism of Heavy Metal magazine and of course the movie is it 447 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:06.200 is wildly sexist and misogynistic. Yeah. I mean it's clearly made by you 448 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.640 know, guys in the seventies, I mean Stone, Dude, Stone, 449 00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:15.920 cartoonists and animators in the late seventies. I mean, yeah, obviously making 450 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:21.200 it. I mean it's a magazine. That's that that traditionally at least has 451 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:25.000 always been accepted as Okay, this is teenage boys number one favorite. This 452 00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:29.880 is what they start reading after their tool for Superman. They get into this. 453 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:31.680 You know that, at least back then, that's what you know, 454 00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:36.720 the idea was. I think that's attitude carries over on. Yeah. I 455 00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:40.200 mean, if you listen to or read a modern review of Heavy Metal, 456 00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.440 the first paragraph will be all about how this is an adolescent boys fantasy. 457 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.480 Yeah, but you know, at the same time it offers you also, 458 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.440 like a super feminist character like Tarna, but through up a teenage boy's perspective. 459 00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:57.759 So why she's got to like slowly and slow motion rubbert titties that she's 460 00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.960 putting on this and that. So yeah, obviously this is a product of 461 00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:06.480 its time. I imagine if we would to tackle heavy metal now, it 462 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.920 would be a little bit more you know, nuanced, I guess, a 463 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.440 little bit more progressive. We might have a character who does more than just 464 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:17.800 jump into bed with the gross guys, yeah, and then continue to inexplicably 465 00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:21.159 butter them up. I mean, it turns out that she's going to take 466 00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:22.920 the money, but I don't get the idea that she got that idea until 467 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:27.199 that moment exactly. But you know, right now, though, like, 468 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.599 if we did something like this now, they would just be two girls. 469 00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:32.760 And in the name of being progressive, look at these two babes makeup. 470 00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.000 You know, I'm gonna take a quick deviation with that. You know, 471 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:39.840 That's how we got Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy, know, Harley Guinn and 472 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:45.559 Poison Ivy and these queer icons that began as horny animators on The Batman Show, 473 00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:50.840 like drawing them in their underwear together, Like there's an episode where they 474 00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.000 like they have a sleepover and then it just drew them right at vacant and 475 00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:59.000 you know, So it's funny how these progressive characters now came out of just 476 00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:04.239 like horny guy fantas. He's wonder Woman the same thing. He is a 477 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.639 horny eyed fantasy. That's true. Hey, I'm not I'm not saying that 478 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:12.400 it's untrue, not saying that it needs to be fixed. Then retroaxing, 479 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.119 no heat, go back and change it is what it is. If we 480 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.760 made heavy mental that like you said, it'd be And I'd love to know 481 00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:20.760 how am I gonna lie? I'd love to give it a whack, you 482 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.440 know, because I loved I grew up with that book and this cartoon. 483 00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:30.079 Man, I love that comic. Space Detective came out of that comic directly. 484 00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:32.679 There was an issue we found and it was a story about a guy 485 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.440 and he was trapped. It was a very THX one one, three eight 486 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:40.880 kind of like almost but this is this guy in like a subterranean dystopia and 487 00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:45.239 he's trying to escape and he's on the run and he gets out and he, 488 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.000 you know, sees a futuristic city and it was all black and white 489 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.320 line work, and we're talking about Space Detective. We're like, well, 490 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.920 let's when we were thinking about Space Detective, initially it was gonna be a 491 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.559 short One'm like, well, let's adapt that, right, Let's I'm not 492 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:01.280 adapt don't we have to eat the right So let's just make something up. 493 00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:07.159 But but the black and white style kind of stayed with the Space has this 494 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.039 eye contrast black and white style that you know, looks like line work and 495 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.239 it's mixed with a bunch of color and others things like that. But for 496 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:20.239 the most part, it's would you call that rotoscopy? No, because rodoscoping 497 00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:24.039 implies that we drew it. He drew over the ad. Yeah, No, 498 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.719 we did it. I mean Matt's and makeup and then I grabbed, 499 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:30.519 you know, in front of green screen. He's in black and white clothes 500 00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:34.360 and he's got black awaite makeup on, and then the yank him in of 501 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.000 after effects or something, and I play around with it. Got So, 502 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.079 what's your opinion on rotoscope? It's great? Sure? Why not? Ralph 503 00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:45.719 bo actually certainly likes it. But everything is more things are rotoscope than not, 504 00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:51.559 because if you watch any old Disney movie, those movies are all rotoscopes. 505 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:57.119 Not everything, but a lot of it are. If you get footage 506 00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.559 of like Mowgli walking through the you know, there's so you see an animation 507 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:07.199 cycle of mobiley walking and then Christopher Robble walking is the same thing, just 508 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:13.280 drying over. Yeah, previous sleeping beauty is all rotoscope. So this rodoscoping 509 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.079 that we're seeing here, that box, She's sort of really pioneered. The 510 00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.920 box rotoscope is more accurate. The Disney rotoscope is more of a guide, 511 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.519 so the animator will follow what the rotoscope is doing and then draw what they're 512 00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:30.599 going to draw, whereas Backsi's animator is you know, drawing Gandalf by tracing 513 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:34.599 right over you know, his actor's nose and stuff. I think it's effective. 514 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.480 I mean soft landing is a different kind of rotoscating, I think, 515 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:42.719 right, because that's photographed and compositive. Actually it's pretty much the same, 516 00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.519 it's just a little more realistic. Yeah, the whole sequence for soft landing, 517 00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:51.159 Like I just felt like the rest of the nineteen eighties was old as 518 00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.920 far as advertising music videos and stuff, and that see that wasn't going to 519 00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:00.360 bring up the rotoscoping on the car. And you see another I'm the B 520 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:06.280 seventeen because that's a ronoscopture model. And then most of tarn all the landscapes 521 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:08.960 and models, yeah, films that they filmed because that they used that trick 522 00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:14.639 on the filmation, his filmation and their shows from that time where all rodoscope 523 00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:19.519 too. They do that on the Flashboarning show, right, the rodoscope the 524 00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:23.679 models of the spaceships and it has this kind of weird where the light's reflecting 525 00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:29.199 and it's like a weird kind of thing. It's like a beautiful painting that's 526 00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:36.079 jittery, yeah, while everything else is still. Yeah, so it inadvertently 527 00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.000 gives life to everything they've sort of painted it. The best batch is the 528 00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:45.119 best rotoscope back. Anything he did was fire Dyce. Yeah. Yeah, 529 00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:50.960 then Frizetta style can't go. I mean it, it's just beautiful because his 530 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.360 like Lord of the Rings is hit or miss, that movie that's Ry Gray 531 00:38:55.400 --> 00:39:00.559 and someone has just got awful Wizards is great. But then you know he 532 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:02.199 does that thing where he's like, oh, I cann't afford to animated thing. 533 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:07.079 So here's some guys with a tint over them. It's too much because 534 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:10.119 it needs a big finale, and yeah, it's instead just a bunch of 535 00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:15.480 newsreel footage. Yeah, drawn over and not even drawn over is xerox, 536 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:21.519 Yeah, because that's zeriography was kind of what actually was actually about. Hanna 537 00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:24.960 Barbara were doing the same thing as far as recycling things. So but you 538 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:29.400 know, he eventually got to drawing over everything. But I do think Wizards 539 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.119 it kind of falls down into that third act just because it's he's so reliant 540 00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.800 on it, and I know it's budget and I feel bad, but it 541 00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:38.559 doesn't make the movie any better. Did you happen to watch the short film 542 00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:42.519 I sent you today? In No, I did it. I didn't get 543 00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:44.440 a chance, Sue. I know a lot. I know a little bit 544 00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:49.320 about Richard Worman Ladies and Gentlemen. Richard Corbyn is a fantastic artist. He 545 00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:52.719 drew the entire series of Den drew a lot more than that, obviously, 546 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.920 And what made his stuff so cool is that he airbrushes everything he does. 547 00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:01.760 Everything is painted yeah, orgeous, which they try and replicate here to greater, 548 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.920 unless to a greater or lesser extent. I don't think they got his 549 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:12.920 sense of action in the models necessarily, but the color palette that they've chosen, 550 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:16.119 in the way they painted the animation cells fucking gorgeous. This is not 551 00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:20.400 rodoscoped at all. And this is something I was gonna bring up because the 552 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:25.639 animation you'll see and the non rodoscope stuff has that like kind of rubbery quality 553 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:30.320 to it that the human characters don't seem to have later in animation, but 554 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.599 like during this like late seventies and early eighties, I feel like they do 555 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:38.119 because I remember you've seen that the Star Wars. The Boba Fett animator does 556 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:43.199 the same thing where the characters whenever it's the kind of yeah, and the 557 00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.400 dead animation kind of has it a little bit, and so does the one 558 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:49.920 with the little Syx spot. In nineteen sixty nine, Richard Corbin made a 559 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:52.000 short film. You can all see it on YouTube right now. It's called 560 00:40:52.199 --> 00:41:00.719 Neverwhere, and it's a live action film pathetic guy at work who is trod 561 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:08.079 upon by everyone. He receives some message telepathically to find this object, which 562 00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:10.760 he does. Oh, I thought it was a documentary. I'm like, 563 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.840 oh, I'm gonna catch something and they just didn't get you. Just to 564 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:19.440 watch it ship. Then he builds a little contramp, hooks this like stone 565 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.199 up to it, which opens a portal, and everything becomes animated. The 566 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:27.840 most simple animation ever. But it's fucking beautiful and it's the it's effective the 567 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.920 entirety. It's incredible. So to think that this was sitting around to sixty 568 00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:34.440 nine, it was going to be a natural that they were making into a 569 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:37.800 film. I mean, it was successful in the magazine anyway, like to 570 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:43.920 have a blueprint like his own work. I'm gonna watch it. I have 571 00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:45.920 it in my message. I just you know he's gonna watch it. A 572 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:47.519 little to day got a light. Uh shit, I can't wait to see 573 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:53.039 it. I think this is probably historically my favorite one. Then, yeah, 574 00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:57.679 at least is the one I always kind of enjoyed the most. I 575 00:41:57.719 --> 00:41:59.920 don't know. I like this one and so beautiful, so Deadly a lot 576 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.840 too, because just the sci fi and it's great. But the Dead One, 577 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.280 well, the Captain Stern one the middle of this movie is amazing, 578 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:14.679 but the Dead One is just great Welsh wish fulfillment. Yeah. I maintained 579 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.800 that the criticism where I was talking about earlier, the lesson boy. Yeah, 580 00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:22.800 this is that den has always been that and it doesn't hide it, 581 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:28.599 you know, and I think you could like, I'm surprised The Rock hasn't 582 00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:30.039 gotten a hold of this and tried to like make a movie out of it 583 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:34.639 or something, because I mean it it would play. I wouldn't want to, 584 00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.840 you know, the Rocks, the Rock. Maybe you know somebody else 585 00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:42.480 there's the other Jason momoo or they're younger, buffer, they're young, but 586 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.599 we haven't met him. Yeah yet, we haven't met dead yet, thank 587 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.000 you. And you know, I saw an article not long ago and it 588 00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:52.920 said that every major box office draw is like, well over forty. Yes, 589 00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:59.679 there's no young movie stars other than like Z and Dea and the like 590 00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:04.719 it's you got is Tom Holland, I guess what about the what about the 591 00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.000 Tom Hardy fellow? Tom Hardy's forty six years old? Is he really? 592 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:13.519 He looks good, He looks great, he stays in shape. I like 593 00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:17.639 that dude on on on Showgun, the dude Cosmo something or other crazy No, 594 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:22.760 not Craver. Showgun was great. That Austin Butler, dude's pretty Oh 595 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.880 he's real good. Yeah, Like, what's it reminds me of Valkilver very 596 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.679 much. Yeah, and that's not Yeah, then that's not a bad thing. 597 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.159 Thirty year old Val Kilmer was the coolest actor in the world too. 598 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.679 No, I haven't seen any He's great, is he? Uh? Yeah? 599 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:40.599 Okay? Fade Rouse though, Man, that first dude was just terrible? 600 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:45.159 Which part one? Yeah? God awful? Yeah, just threat. 601 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.880 I hated every moment of Dune too awesome. Okay, I don't know how 602 00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:51.960 things. I don't know. Did you like later On? You know, 603 00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:54.360 like later Runner, Blade the original? No, the twenty twenty forty nine 604 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:57.800 Blade Runner. No, see, I don't like it either, and like, 605 00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.360 did you like it? No, don't make your sequel fuck with my 606 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:06.440 original. Don't check the trajectory of characters and their motives in the first movie 607 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.760 with your sequel. Fuck you don't include Does anybody just watch Aliens? That's 608 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:13.800 how you make a sequel to something that you're not the director of the original 609 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.400 one. Because Aliens is drinking might be better than Alien. It's just there's 610 00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:21.920 such different movies. It's just yeah, yeah, that's Apple Sino morph Ample 611 00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.960 versus Ceno morph Orange. Yeah, but man, Aliens is so cool. 612 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.199 Aliens it is cool. But we're not talking a Yeah, there we're talking 613 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:36.920 den thoughts Matt. Wow, well the closure. I'm being honest. So 614 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.840 that's no experience. I haven't watched Heavy Red seen years, but before fifty 615 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.840 fire to fifteen years you watched it one hundred times. I watched it exes. 616 00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.719 Yeah, I'm still trying to refresh. I remember him, kid finds 617 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.199 the lockdown in the backyard, hooks it up to a silo or something. 618 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.639 Lightning hits his house. He ends up in a fantasy world where he's that 619 00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.840 giant buff guy, right, and he beats a beautiful red blue eyed. 620 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.960 Yeah. Girls, they're all red headed in this. Yes, it's kind 621 00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.840 of great. Yeah, they're all red headed. I think that was a 622 00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:14.039 great scar that fantastical like it's almost like am I was like, man, 623 00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:21.159 you know what I mean, it's like this Sorcery Lasers tins, oh man. 624 00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:22.960 Those were my favorite two when I was a kid that like that, 625 00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:28.440 And it wasn't they was The Queen Man oh man, that Queen Show. 626 00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:31.320 But that's a great like the movie making in that scene is great because it's 627 00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.440 in the dark and he's talking, he's hog and he's talking. The light 628 00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:37.199 comes on he's got his hands on her chits because you see the hands go 629 00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:42.920 on the test and you don't so great man. And then the villain is 630 00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.480 just like the art are then the super queen like they they've got two evil 631 00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:50.400 queens. I guess, yeah, exactly, And but he's hilarious. The 632 00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:54.000 Lockhart's mind, stupid bitch got away from me. Get the lock does mind 633 00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:59.159 it's mine, but I struck you again? Is the gorilla dude gnar? 634 00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:01.719 Yes, but his outfit is that he's got a belt on with a thing 635 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:07.559 covering his is his junk, but his ass is just hanging in. You 636 00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.559 don't want your enemy seeing how big or small you are. It's like the 637 00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:14.559 logic. I'm like, does that big ass leap onto the creature? And 638 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.639 I'm like, only four nuts? Just there's so many good little characters coments, 639 00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:20.960 particularly with him. But they talk of the savage beast who prowls these 640 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:27.039 catacombs with a fierce hunger and sharp teeth six inches long, I'm sorry, 641 00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.360 sixteen inches long. Or the queen's henchmen going oh here she goes again. 642 00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:34.320 Hey man, she's the queen. She can do whatever the hellse she wants, 643 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:39.079 but come with me again, this always happens. Look, she's the 644 00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:45.840 queen, she can do whatever she wants. Sure, I really enjoyed that 645 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:50.119 one. I just I love Den's dialogue is great. I too, Am 646 00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:55.000 from Earth, Like it really were like you believe as an eighteen year old, 647 00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.840 you know. But the thing is, I think that was a big 648 00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.840 kind of thing around that time. You know, like there was like, 649 00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:04.760 hey man was up, you know, he even did it really looks it 650 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:08.119 becomes yeah the week you know, and Shazama had that renaissance during that time 651 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.440 period, and like, so we had the TV shows, the live action 652 00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.280 show, the cartoon show, Shazanna was a little kid turning into a superhero. 653 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:20.000 ThunderCats, it was a little kid turned in, you know, became 654 00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:23.519 that something like it's kind of neat how Den is living? Wh Yeah, 655 00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:30.599 the most animated fair even the Codan show at a Universal Studios. It was 656 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:34.840 a kid comes in, finds codan sword and becomes big Coda. What's going 657 00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.880 on? Eighties? Little boys want to be giant people? Why because we 658 00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:43.679 watched heavy Metal? Yes it would work. Yeah, and he's eighteen. 659 00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:45.000 By the way, they he goes out of there, when they go out 660 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:49.199 of the way, he goes hey, eighteen years old, and I've already 661 00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:51.760 had I'm like, oh okay, to make sure that he's not a kid 662 00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:58.519 doing this. Yeah, all the totally on board everything, but you know, 663 00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:00.360 the you know, the big Cathulu bound stir whatever, big octopus lives 664 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:05.440 the thing and it's just cool looking. Something I didn't realize until I watched 665 00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:17.079 it again last night. The chant the monster is named. It was just 666 00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:23.199 just cooked through the backwards. Oh Jesus. I like the bugs, the 667 00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:28.519 flying bugs. Flying bugs are great. The monks yeah or signed that. 668 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.880 Yeah, the spooky and the pool itself, the different swirl of waters, 669 00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:36.280 the fucking skies and this one. Oh ye yeah, yeah, it's really 670 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:38.559 beautiful. It's not my favorite. It was a popular like after we you 671 00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:44.679 know, after partying all day, know, watch that back home on nobody 672 00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:47.679 here. I did like it, really, It's just like it's all as 673 00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:52.679 a short film. It's you could have ended this movie with Dan and extended 674 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:54.440 it and I would have been totally cool. Yeah. Yeah, it's from 675 00:48:54.519 --> 00:48:59.800 from the ridiculous to the sublime. The Captain Stern now proby, you're not, 676 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.679 I don't. Captain Stern is based on a character created four heavy metal 677 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.000 initially. He eventually got his own comic series, created by my favorite comic 678 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:13.079 book artist of all time, mister Bernie writes it. Captain Stern himself is 679 00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:20.119 an amorl space pirate basically with the little coterie of characters were always with them, 680 00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:22.519 most prominently a fellow by the name of Handover Fist, who is a 681 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:27.360 meek little guy who can turn into a big guy. They basically go through 682 00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:30.440 adventures through the cosmos, fucking shit up and stealing things. That's basically all 683 00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:35.639 he does. He's one of my favorite characters of all time. Voiced inexplicably 684 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:37.000 by Eugene Levy. Yeah, that's the first thing. I'm like, Wait, 685 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:42.159 that's Eugene Lonon. It's okay, Charlie, I got an angle. 686 00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.760 But he's fantastic here. His lawyer is Joe Flaherty. But the most we 687 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:49.440 can hope for is to get you buried in secrecy so your grave don't get 688 00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.719 violated. Yeah, this is all SCTV people peopling this entire movie thanks to 689 00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:57.639 thanks to the Ivan Wrightman's Yeah station in the movie, and of course the 690 00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:02.199 great as the lawyer John was a John w oh John Vernon Vernon prosecutor, 691 00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:07.639 one of the greatest voices of all time. Lincoln Stern, you stand here 692 00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:14.760 accused of twelve counts of murder on the first degree, fourteen counts of armed 693 00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:22.440 theft of Federation property, twenty two counts of piracy in high space, eighteen 694 00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:30.400 counts of fraud, thirty seven counts of rape, and one moving violation. 695 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:34.960 What a great character, What great character designed? Yeah? Now, like 696 00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:38.000 I said, each of the stories here tend to ape the style of the 697 00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:43.320 artists that initially drew it. And this one is definitely the most cartoony rights 698 00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.599 and can be very realistic in his mind or he can, you know the 699 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.840 other way. Yeah, the most cartoony. Captain Stern's chin could fit an 700 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:53.199 entire anister. Yeah, it's not the Frankenstein. Hey do you think that 701 00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:55.480 the Tora movie is coming? Do you think it's gonna look like that? 702 00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:00.880 I'm really hoping. Oh, man, because it's not Duck Jones doing it. 703 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:05.119 It's that that that kid, the cub a load. Oh really, 704 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:07.440 yeah, he's the monster. Oh. They got to put put the rights 705 00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:13.320 and nose on him. Yeah, because it was going to be Andrew Garfield 706 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.639 first, and they're like, okay, well, Andrew is tall and skinny, 707 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:21.239 and then it's uh, what's his name? Like Cuban brother, what's 708 00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:25.800 his name? Oscar isaac Oh as doctor Frank is now well ship. Now 709 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:30.360 here's the thing. I love the Lockner as a character hanging out with the 710 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.480 lock Yeah, the Locknar's participation in each of the stories is a bit iffy 711 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:37.800 in this one for me only because I'm a fan of the Captain's stern comic 712 00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:45.400 hand or fist can willingly change into a gigantic hulk monster who smacks. Okay, 713 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:46.840 but and then the move because the movie of Wies it is the Loch 714 00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:50.679 now that does it to him right, because he's he's got it as a 715 00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:52.679 marble, he's rolling it back and forth, and then he begins to change, 716 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:57.159 and that is the implication, and that's what I think everyone believes who 717 00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.079 sees the movie. That's a minor quibble though, because this one is so 718 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:04.360 much fucking fun. He's a blast. Yeah, it's NonStop funny. I 719 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:08.159 love the animation here, I love the style and is this the best song 720 00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:22.639 in the movie. Cheap Tricks reach out when hanover fist can't fit through the 721 00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:28.719 porthole and just squeezes it feel it like, so he can force his way 722 00:52:28.760 --> 00:52:32.559 through the beautiful, the funniest he's getting When Vernon's reading the prosecutors reading the 723 00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:37.159 list of charges, so Arson fifteen cutting some rape and then it cuts them 724 00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:42.519 and starting he smirks. It's like, that's great editing, man, that 725 00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.679 says you want to slide ball this, or it's like, oh what about 726 00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:52.639 the kit what is about the kitty? Prostitution ring, the preschoolers pros Yeah, 727 00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:55.199 freezepool, it's posited ring by the way, Roger bump Roger bumpers. 728 00:52:55.199 --> 00:53:00.920 They are providing the voice of hanover Fist and he's never done anything illegal. 729 00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:07.519 Must you count all the times he's so dope disguised as a nun. Any 730 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:10.039 fans of SpongeBob square pads, Oh yeah, yeah, that's squid word? 731 00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:15.360 Oh no care? Yeah sure, is Den and Stern make you want to 732 00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:20.599 watch more? Then and then? And yeah. The rest of them though, 733 00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:22.639 Okay, they're good, even the B seventeen, which is magnificent. 734 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.679 It's a it's a you know, it's a open and closed story. Yeah, 735 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.880 but the Stern you want more. Honestly, I could take most of 736 00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:36.599 these stories in a longer form yeah, but like B seventeen benefits from Yeah, 737 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:42.920 Tarna could be five minutes, but as far as I'm concerned. But 738 00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.239 but I agree like this story in particular. I mean, and there is 739 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.800 a whole series. Ladies and gentlemen go out and read the Captain Stern comics. 740 00:53:49.880 --> 00:53:52.079 Yeah. Actually, you don't even have to leave your house. Read 741 00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.239 comics online dot from outing them. You can read most of Captain Stern right 742 00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:58.559 there. Oh, there you go. I'm gonna go there and read some 743 00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:01.599 comics. I you know, I get I go through phases and I'll get 744 00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:07.440 a subscription to like the DC thing or what's the other one of the comicology, 745 00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.599 and then I'll binge for like two months or something, okay from Captain 746 00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:15.079 Stern. Look, you know, it's it's a really good distillation I think 747 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:20.960 of the Captain Stern while at the same time completely disregarding their own mythology. 748 00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:23.800 I think it really works in the movie too, Like it's it's a funny 749 00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:29.159 bit but like it's a sorbet piece. Yeah, it's really it's neat. 750 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.280 Yeah, a little Kla cleanser before and it's just all violence. It's no, 751 00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:37.840 it's funny violence. Yeah, it's all cartoon slapstick vins. There's no 752 00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.800 tits in it. It's not sexy at all. It's all straightforward, you 753 00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:46.800 know. Mad thoughts on Stern. I do remember his face. Oh, 754 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:52.760 I can't remember the straining of his face. It's a great face. It's 755 00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:58.119 like if you exploded Clark Kent's face out and he looks so noble. I 756 00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:00.920 was trying to think of an analog for him. The closest I could come 757 00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:05.679 up with was Zach Brannigan on Future Rock. Yeah. There. The difference, 758 00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:09.239 of course, is that Zach Brannigan, for all his bloviating, can't 759 00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:15.239 deliver. But Captain Stern cat It's like like Zach Brannigan crossed with oh what's 760 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:19.519 his name? From a third man? Yeah, Harry Lyne meets Zach Brannigan. 761 00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.639 That's after the start. Captain. Okay, this takes us to my 762 00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:28.760 This is my favorite segment of the entire thy is it or is it? 763 00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:32.159 Captain Stern? Captain Start looks like John Hamm. Yeah, oh my god, 764 00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:37.960 immediately live action Stern. I'll deal with this, yeah, like it 765 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:43.519 can seech you everything else in and John Hanns can play asshole so well. 766 00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:46.920 And now yeah, imagine comedic asshole, emedic ass Oh yeah, oh sweet, 767 00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:52.360 somebody. The funny thing is his fleedged didn't work, didn't it. 768 00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:54.480 I don't think it did. I thought he worked in it, did you. 769 00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:59.119 I thought he was more that character than the Chevy Chase was. Yeah. 770 00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:09.559 Maybe, I just think that story was born. Now. Look, 771 00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:14.760 in the late nineteen sixties early nineteen seventies, Dan O'Bannon was a bunch of 772 00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:17.559 specs script worked while he was While he was at USC, he was working 773 00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:22.880 with a fellow classmate, John Carpenter. They made a short film short film 774 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.199 together called Dark Star that ended up getting financing and they spun out to a 775 00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:30.440 feature. Carpenter and he hard ways at that point because Carpenter thought that dan 776 00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:35.039 Ovanner was trying to steal all of his glory by taking too much credit for 777 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:38.760 Dark Stuff. But around that time, Dana Banner was working on a screenplay 778 00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:44.480 called Gremlins. The structure of it worked out and it was about a B 779 00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:49.559 seventeen returning from a bombing rode over Tokyo, and they have a two hour 780 00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:54.079 flight, two hour movie, and at a certain point Gremlins get aboard on 781 00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:59.559 the through the tail. Gunner and they the rest of the movie slowly worked 782 00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:04.320 their way forward, decimating each each soldier, or rather each airman that they 783 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:08.559 find, eventually leading to the ending. Now, he never fully completed that 784 00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:12.639 script, had just sort of put it away. When he was talking to 785 00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:16.920 his buddy Ronald Shoussett about this movie. He was writing about a interstellar creature 786 00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:22.440 that can sneak aboard the ship by hiding inside a human. He didn't have 787 00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:24.360 an ending for it, and Ronald shust said, Hey, you know that 788 00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:29.000 ending for that Gremlins movie you were doing. Just do that, which is 789 00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:31.079 we're basically the structure of the rest of alien. That's the alien chasing them 790 00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:35.880 through their own shit. When it came time to adapt yeah, when it 791 00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:37.239 came time to adapt Tagged Metal into a movie, that's one of the stories 792 00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.599 that Dan Obannet suggested. So it is based on his story, but he 793 00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:44.320 didn't do any writing of it. It doesn't appear in the original comic at 794 00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:49.239 all. There's no record of it being drawn beforehand. There is that most 795 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.519 definitely, there wasn't a Heavy Metal put out a new mini series based on 796 00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.000 B seventeen just a couple of years ago. Not so. No Mike Clue 797 00:57:55.079 --> 00:58:00.480 what are you gonna do? Yeah, exactly. So B seventeen actually was 798 00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:04.280 going to be gremlins. I don't know what the decision was or why they 799 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:07.800 decided that it wasn't going to be feasible. I mean, I can only 800 00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:13.840 guess it was budget and time to animate these thousands of fremlins like swarming over 801 00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.719 the hull of the of the ship. So they designed instead that the Locknard 802 00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:22.480 would slam aboard this ship and bring back the dead. This is our undead 803 00:58:22.599 --> 00:58:27.679 ec Comics tribute design. As you said by mister Mike Plube, it was 804 00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.760 a fucking giant. All of this stuff is gorgeous. Name some of the 805 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:36.400 credits the Lord of the Rings as really like his Lord of the Rings stuff. 806 00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:42.039 There's nowhere in that movie, but like I've seen like like his calendars 807 00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.239 and all this shit. Like kidding, man, the stuff is just really 808 00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:50.280 cool. You can see where Peter Jackson took to Mike Pluge stuff and showed 809 00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:52.760 it to his guy. And I'll do this. I would say that you 810 00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:57.400 want to see some fucking fantastic artwork in design, or go google Mike plube 811 00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:01.119 work on John Carpenter's to the thing. He designed all that shit. He 812 00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:05.719 had some insane designs for what the alien would be, sort of early on 813 00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:07.480 when it was going to be a creature that just sat on your head and 814 00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:12.239 like convinced you, oh no kidding, Yeah, yeah, it was supposed 815 00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:15.639 to be like a psychic projection like creature at one point. And he has 816 00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:21.000 designs for all those all spectacular. You can, if you search along and 817 00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:23.559 hard enough, see his designs for the gremlin creatures. Here there are two, 818 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:27.719 yeah I saw them. Yeah yeah. There's one that's sort of a 819 00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:31.440 character model of the gremlin, and then there's another storyboard which is even harder 820 00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:34.840 to find. I think it's in one of the original art books for Heavy 821 00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:38.039 Metal of a gremlin attempting the tail banner or attempting to get into the tail 822 00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:42.840 gun section could be said. Anyway, the gremlins don't matter. The rest 823 00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:45.360 of the design is by Mike Pluge anyway, including the fucking zombies, which 824 00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:52.320 I think in the end we get about maybe seven seconds, maybe ten of 825 00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:55.519 these zombies, and yet I can remember them so fucking yeah, with those 826 00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:01.639 glowing green eyes and yeah sentence. You see like a close up of a 827 01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:07.119 hand as it boils into skeleton form. The belly gunner zombie. You don't 828 01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:10.039 see it all because the navigator gets pulled in there. We just see him 829 01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:14.559 flopping around in floods. Well, that's my and that the shot is just 830 01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:21.280 amazing. And then the blood. I remember those undeadts and I'm surprised that 831 01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:23.239 it was over like seven Yeah, they're only in it for just a little 832 01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:28.880 bit. That image is just burned in my brain. But I mean it's 833 01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:31.880 and it's a great zombie board, Like it's a five minute zombie masterpiece. 834 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:36.760 Oh yeah, it would as a live action thing. A lot of these 835 01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:39.639 wouldn't work, but this one especially, and that ending, the ending is 836 01:00:39.679 --> 01:00:43.800 cool because the ending is like, ah, I'm saved, and he ends 837 01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:45.079 up in the island and then all of a sudden you just see you see 838 01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:49.480 a shadow over here, and then a shadow over there, and then there 839 01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:52.840 they are and there they are, and then is that also the island is 840 01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:55.880 just filled them all the air the airplane wreckages and all these pilots are coming 841 01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:59.440 out of it, coming after him with stuff, and it's just I like, 842 01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:01.760 in the film making of it, thought when he is all this exciting 843 01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:06.840 music, all those exciting music, and but when the pilot finally gets out 844 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:09.360 of the plane. Real music. Yeah, let's talk about the beginning. 845 01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:15.639 Have you guys listened to Elma Bernstein's original score for Heavy Metal? I listened 846 01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:19.000 to some of it. His score for B seventeen is largely on yirs. 847 01:01:19.159 --> 01:01:22.800 Oh yeah. He had a very triumphant World War two kind of aren't we 848 01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:42.039 doing great up here in the air kind of a scoring thing that might have 849 01:01:42.159 --> 01:01:47.679 written for grab Ones, because initially it was like the bombing run occurs and 850 01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:52.599 we get to know our characters and then they start to go, whereas what 851 01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:58.960 we get here is basically the entire crew massacred during the opening sequence. Sent 852 01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:02.800 to Don Felder taking a ride. Yeah, it's a magnificent Yeah, it 853 01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:07.079 works great man, And just the animation is cool, and just the action 854 01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.639 is me and it's very exciting. But and it's all the rotoscope or a 855 01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:15.480 time. Yeah, but like when the bomba deer gets it. I don't 856 01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:17.599 know about you, fellas, but I always had a romantic notion about being 857 01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.480 in a B seventeen in World War Yeah. If I was gonna go and 858 01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:23.159 have to fight in World War Two, I want to be on that plane. 859 01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:27.159 I feel a little differently now, that I've watched Masters of the Air. 860 01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:30.679 Yeah, exactly. I don't want to do that. It seems very 861 01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:37.079 terrifying from even just take off. Yeah, I mentioned zombies. Apparently it's 862 01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:40.559 just cool. I just love I love the glowing green, you know, 863 01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:45.239 because in live action you may not see something like that, but definitely that 864 01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:50.079 easy kind of horror comic. Yeah, with the green blow around all of 865 01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:53.119 them. Yeah, it's fantastic. And then the designs at the end because 866 01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:58.320 when they're on the island, like there's the one there's one zombie that slides 867 01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:01.480 back the cockpit glass and it's just the top part of the skull like the 868 01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:06.280 Jaws falling away. Yeah, it's like I gotta say, you know, 869 01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:08.159 like you guys, I saw this movie when I was nine years old. 870 01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:12.480 Up until then, if someone were to get shot in a movie or a 871 01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:15.360 television show, in my mind, they just fell over and we're dead. 872 01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:20.719 Yeah, that's what happens. I was in no way prepared to see the 873 01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:24.920 radio operator being perforated in the in his right arm. He's holding the microphone 874 01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:29.119 up and it gets shot through the area, grabs his own arm because it 875 01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:34.199 hurts so much, or not to mention just the physical told that the this 876 01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:42.760 movie taught me that violent death is an ugly terrible thing. Here's anything you 877 01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:45.880 can tell, like the animators having a great time, like they're having a 878 01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:49.320 lot of fun in this sequence drawing those monsters. Oh not only the laws 879 01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:54.519 are just like the guy's dyet. Is it fantastic that even the aftermath of 880 01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:59.880 that when he's when the navigators checking each of the guys and they each follow 881 01:03:59.920 --> 01:04:02.639 up over in some terrible way, like all of this spell out onto the 882 01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:06.360 ground, like, oh my god, this has been the first like undead 883 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:13.760 like World War two soldiers image, right, I mean I can't first off, 884 01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:17.559 see can't prior to yeah, because like World War two zombies now and 885 01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:21.559 brought you know the video game Bread and Butter. Yeah, big business, 886 01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:27.039 World War two zombie. Yeah, but yeah here it was pre dating all 887 01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.960 thanks to Dan O'Bannon and I guess whoever rerets strip said let's just do zombies. 888 01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:35.199 Yeah, yell, it's nothing. You want me to draw the segmented 889 01:04:35.519 --> 01:04:41.039 creature No. B seventeenth is it? Like I said, it's a it's 890 01:04:41.079 --> 01:04:45.360 a it's an britigue. It's very brief and it brings us to but it's 891 01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:47.840 like a perfect common little comic book short story though, like it's like three 892 01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:49.920 or four pages of just like, oh man, this is a great. 893 01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:54.719 Oh fuck, it's over. Let me read it again. I do want 894 01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:57.639 to see that grand Ones. Yeah, I mean they kind of just did 895 01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:00.880 that shadow in the Cloud movie with Chloe Graysmer like two years ago. It 896 01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:05.679 was fucking terrible. Oh yeah, it's gone awful. There's so much labyrinthine 897 01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:09.679 plotting, which should just be we're on an airplane with the fucking monster trying 898 01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:13.760 to kill us. But to see the Dan O'Bannon Kremlin script, yeah, 899 01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:16.960 that is donald movie. Oh boy. Now if you say the word gremlin, 900 01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:21.000 you're talking about a mangoa. Yeah, prior to nineteen eighty four, 901 01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:25.239 if you said gremlin, if you knew at all what anyone was talking about. 902 01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:29.559 It originated in World War Two, the pilots would say any malfunction that 903 01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:33.119 was unexplained was called that redhead having such a grin that gremlins too. I 904 01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:35.679 had the biggest crush in that red Head when I was a little kid. 905 01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:41.119 Oh billy with the cigarette and like the girl's fine is a loue. I've 906 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:44.599 read head Plan and and all in that say, you know what's break through 907 01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:46.679 in that movie is John Glebert. Yeah, yes, it's Donald clamp Yeah, 908 01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:51.800 Donald clamb oh Man and Christopher Lee. My favorite choke, You've reached 909 01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:57.159 Men's Room, mister. It's like just so bizarre that movie, dude, 910 01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:00.239 I love it. B seventeen transition Locknar Where we go in Locknar, we 911 01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:05.039 go from there? Where well we go from the bee s seventeen It blings 912 01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:10.239 right, No, it's the guy in the jungle surrounded by zombies. It 913 01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:14.440 becomes a vector graphic, becomes a vector graphic on the spaceship right, and 914 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:16.960 then change the channel to the yeah to gone, which is our first computer 915 01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:21.960 generated image here. Yeah, but what cool? That's a brilligon meat transition. 916 01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:26.599 That's a really cool transition in nineteen eighty one. Yeah, that's the 917 01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:32.840 greatest of all. Yeah. Now, this story is based on a series 918 01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:40.000 in Heavy Metal Magazine by Angus McKee. It is I'm going to urge if 919 01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:44.159 you like this segment of the thing, you have to beat the original this 920 01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:48.719 one. The story we're presented in the film is maybe like I don't know, 921 01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:56.360 the first few moments of the entire book. The book is an existential 922 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:01.320 pondering of the universe in Man's place, and it's these humans from Earth who 923 01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:04.599 hitch a ride on this ship and then they travel the galaxy, meeting all 924 01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:10.039 these intergalactic weirdos. It's pretty fucking fantastic. And like I said, they 925 01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:15.400 just take the initial couple stories here for the film, changing almost everything except 926 01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:19.760 the robot, which is designed exactly the same in both. The overall design 927 01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:23.599 is beautiful. The ship is fucking fantastic. Yeah, I love that ship. 928 01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:26.760 That's like the ball with the group with the paint in it when it's 929 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.199 hovering over the pensul. Yeah, it's just gorgeous. Like it looks like 930 01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:32.559 a seventies album come to Yeah, that's what it does look like. Getting 931 01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:38.239 Here is basically a tale of a robot who repairs robots, picking up a 932 01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:42.880 malfunctioning a robot who's a higher up in our Pentagon and transporting him back for 933 01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:46.719 repair, and they accidentally suck up a secretary, another redhead, another blue 934 01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:49.840 eyed redhead. Yeah, she's got a lock inar. See that's the other 935 01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:56.719 thing. Lockar pendant is the most ethnic person in the whole movie, is 936 01:07:56.800 --> 01:08:00.480 her, I guess cause she's Jewish. Because she's Jewish. Yeah, oh 937 01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:04.199 well progressive eighties, very progressive. Yeah yeah, none at all stereotypical. 938 01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:09.719 You think she's saying, no, not at all? Great whatever is It's 939 01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:12.760 funny. John Candy's doing the voice of the Road here. He's fucking great 940 01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.639 in it. But the stars of the oh yeah, of this episode, 941 01:08:15.600 --> 01:08:21.359 Zeke and Edsell were the pilots ship, voiced by Harold Ramiss. It's okay, 942 01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:25.520 man. If there's one thing I know, it's how to drive when 943 01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:29.079 I'm stoned. It's like, you know, your perspectives fucked, so you 944 01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:31.319 just gotta let your cands work the control. It's as in, you're straight. 945 01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:35.880 And Dave Thomas, yes, which his voice is the one that shocks 946 01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:39.960 me here. He's the he's the genet, the equivalent here because he's doing 947 01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:42.720 the stoner voice. Yeah, I do not expect to come out of Dave 948 01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:46.600 tom Oh typical robot, the first earth chick we see in ten years. 949 01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:50.439 And he's got to make a play for Zeke and Edsel get out some plutonium 950 01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:57.439 nyborg, you know. And I just remember they hang out that snow machine 951 01:08:57.479 --> 01:09:00.560 and it's like they've just been all over that floor and I'm watching even to 952 01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:04.760 when I was watching it this morning. He's doing it at Zeke right, 953 01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:09.600 the green guy he walks, he steps in, and I'm like, man, 954 01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:11.920 he's gotta stort that day. And he just stepped in it. This 955 01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:15.199 is what I know that I'm watching stuff as I'm older now, and I'm 956 01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:17.920 just like, as a kid, like, just put that drug on a 957 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:23.239 toilet seats something you're watching something else. I had the same reaction because he's 958 01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.800 laying out two parallel lines. The machine is pumping out two lines at one 959 01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:29.359 time, and I'm like, that's good, that's good. Yeah, yeah, 960 01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:32.680 and then he starts crossing over. Yeah, so now the lines are 961 01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:38.359 all strang like what were you doing? Not a concern when I was twelve. 962 01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:41.239 No, If there's a stoner sequence in this, this is it. 963 01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:45.800 It's funny because it's like when it reacts and it's not like they're coked up 964 01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:48.640 and like all jittery and everything. They're just stone. They're ontyborg so what 965 01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:55.560 who knows what it does? Yeah? And man, and some of the 966 01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:59.560 best animation in this, yeah, you know, little nods to other sci 967 01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:02.600 fi. We got the starship, Yeah, races passed the window. At 968 01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:08.680 one point the space city they dock in is like super like Q Sammy Hagar. 969 01:10:08.920 --> 01:10:19.239 Yeah, everything looks like that after that movie, like that, design 970 01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:25.000 aesthetic is all over Blade Runner. That design aesthetic is all over Space Detective, 971 01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:30.239 It's all over Like Judge Dread, It's all over pretty much anything cyberpunk 972 01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:35.079 that came out and overcrowded everything on top of everything, advertising over every inch 973 01:10:35.159 --> 01:10:39.600 of everything, and little jokes and everything. I really like too. In 974 01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:43.560 the big joke here is you know, they have this gigantic port that they 975 01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:47.000 can get their tiny shift through that they yeah, the wall in the coming 976 01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:51.199 they're watching another shifting and making fun. What I noticed was cool. I 977 01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:57.079 get back back to the filmmaking of it, is how the scale changes so 978 01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:00.319 like at first they like there's jaw and ship right over the Pentagon, and 979 01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:03.079 then by the end of it, it's this tiny little thing floating into this 980 01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:11.319 massive giant space like one civilization structure. You'll notice some of Milonky editing here 981 01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:15.760 because the real Oh yeah, the robot and the girl get off the shift 982 01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:19.880 before they landed. Yeah, here's the thing, the order, And I'm 983 01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:25.760 sure you've read the script. The order initially was this story came before handover 984 01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:30.159 Fist the Captain Stern story. In fact, their mission was to pick up 985 01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:32.520 hanover fist and deliver him to the space station. See now, if you 986 01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:36.039 look at it this way, rearranging the movie back to that script and kind 987 01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:41.279 of like intercutting it, you could get a pulp fiction type picture that jumps 988 01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:45.720 around and casts over. I don't think. I think some studio executives said, 989 01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:49.000 what are you crazy, You're going to confuse everybody. Yeah, and 990 01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:53.119 that's what happened. I don't even know if he wasn't playing. I just 991 01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:56.640 think someone said, you're going to give the audiences. But I mean it 992 01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:59.439 was, you know, nineteen eighty one. That's the beginning of the focus 993 01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:02.119 group. Anyway, is maybe that movie had come out four years earlier, 994 01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:05.359 they might have it would have been like that when they were, you know, 995 01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:10.640 somebody gave were giving that che money into his Initially, there was a 996 01:12:10.720 --> 01:12:17.159 sequence called Neverwhere Land that got mostly animated that was between it ends on b 997 01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:23.439 seventeen. I know, but it's it's basically like the locknar at the end 998 01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:29.079 of a story is like sort of primordial and it becomes very like beautifully animated, 999 01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:33.800 and it tells the tale of evil from the Dawn of Time to World 1000 01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:38.920 War Two. So it shows like the Crucifixion of Christ, and it shows 1001 01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:42.079 like Jack the Ripper, and it's like all these horrible things and then it 1002 01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:45.640 ends in like like Holocaust imagery and then pans up and then they'd be seventeen 1003 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:49.119 squire. You know. It's funny because Fantasia cuts out and there was a 1004 01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:55.399 sequence of the Dinosaur Oh, which I think they when they did Fantastic two 1005 01:12:55.439 --> 01:13:01.079 thousand, they there's an anthology that's right, yeah, thirty nine and I'm 1006 01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:03.840 not gonna do it. But we're only doing this one because he said the 1007 01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:09.880 teen squeaks us and I'm like, it's not about an animated one because I 1008 01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:13.840 just love talking about cartoonies. The fact that this movie exists as a miracle 1009 01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:16.880 because we haven't had any, like we got that heavy Metal to the thousand. 1010 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.399 I haven't been able to bring myself to watch that. Have you tried? 1011 01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:24.319 Is it? Is? It? Is it? Watching it's Tarna over 1012 01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:27.199 two hours? Yeah, it's two hours of Tarner. That's not hurt the 1013 01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:31.039 animated Yeah, and like a fucking Chris cost I've watched pieces of it online 1014 01:13:31.239 --> 01:13:33.439 over the year. It was like Hey, where's this crap? Do you 1015 01:13:33.520 --> 01:13:38.039 know that in two thousand and nine David Fincherton, Yes, I did that, 1016 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.119 felt part. Did you also know that they did make an entire series 1017 01:13:41.319 --> 01:13:45.039 and it came out in twenty three Teens Love Death and Robots? Yeah, 1018 01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:49.279 yeah, how dare that? Yeah? Love Death and Robots is missus one 1019 01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:54.600 doesn't have it doesn't It's not sexy at all? Are there fantasy service? 1020 01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:58.239 It's all sci fi? It's all sci fi? Yeah, So like I 1021 01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:00.880 never would have guessed it was in Yeah, because to just take one element, 1022 01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:03.960 one genre and say this is heavy, man, I'm glad they called 1023 01:14:03.960 --> 01:14:08.479 it something else ously because well, yeah, I mean that's because I still 1024 01:14:08.479 --> 01:14:11.640 think the brand is viable. I think you could still make a movie. 1025 01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:16.840 I haven't read I confess that I haven't read the Grant Morrison era at all. 1026 01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:21.279 And my love Grant Morrison and every comic is very For some reason, 1027 01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:25.199 I just haven't read that, so I don't know if it's any good or 1028 01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:29.159 you know, his other sci fi is great, so I was assuming that, 1029 01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:31.079 you know, and his fantasy stuff is pretty good too. I haven't 1030 01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:33.319 read his Santa Claus yet. It's the only thing you haven't read of his 1031 01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:36.439 I think you're gonna talk about Kevin Eastman here personally, Kevin Eastman, the 1032 01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:41.279 great Kevin Eastman is he great to me? He is even great in Ninja 1033 01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:45.920 Turtles, and I count myself. You don't think Peter Laird had anything. 1034 01:14:45.199 --> 01:14:49.239 Oh, don't get me wrong. It's a it was a two man operation. 1035 01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:53.880 But for the story is a sad one, like how they kind of 1036 01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:58.520 Peter Laird had all but you know, difficulty and shit that toys who made 1037 01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:02.039 Us as an episode on net Flix. It's about their reunions. Well tears, 1038 01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:05.560 beautiful, my nerd hipster moment. I don't really try to ever be 1039 01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:09.239 like that, but my one is like, oh yeah, black and white 1040 01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:13.279 Ninja Turtle comics, like I liked them before they had a cartoon show. 1041 01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:16.520 Yeah, before they were pizza, Yeah, before they were at And to 1042 01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.439 put this to this day, if there's a Ninja Turtle in front of me, 1043 01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:23.640 I'm gonna watch it. I want to love those characters. It was 1044 01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:28.359 just something I like. They got me at nine. I will maintain that 1045 01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:33.239 he's great in that. He in ninety four saw heavy metal failing and said 1046 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:36.319 I'll buy that, and you still got heavy metals, yeah to this day 1047 01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:42.600 because it's not monthly anymore, but it's not squarterly or yeah, but I 1048 01:15:42.680 --> 01:15:45.520 don't care as songs, we're getting new art from you, fucking from these 1049 01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:49.039 mad geniuses. But you know, as a horny teenager, man was great, 1050 01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:53.279 man, it was awesome. The minute the guy behind the counter figured 1051 01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:55.920 you were old enough to buy heavy metal, you got it because they didn't 1052 01:15:55.920 --> 01:15:58.079 guard you for it, but they wouldn't sell TV you were a little kid. 1053 01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:02.279 Do you think heavy metal has any appeal to horny adolescents now considering what 1054 01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:08.479 is available to them online? And I think do you think that might force 1055 01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:13.680 heavy metal away from the sort of it's just for boys? Well maybe because 1056 01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:16.439 the kids, Well yeah, I think that. I think kids can discover 1057 01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:19.880 it. I think the music had a lot to had a lot to do 1058 01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:24.800 with it too. The fact that there was a magazine that had comics in 1059 01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:30.000 the magazine was called heavy metal. In the eighties and nineties, you were 1060 01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:33.439 gonna get the kid who liked heavy metal music inadvertently. One was always going 1061 01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:38.119 to pick it up. Oh what's this all about? And half of those 1062 01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:41.760 kids who buy another one? What makes it relevant? What made it then? 1063 01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:45.039 I think it was the fact that it was horny. I think that 1064 01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:48.359 helps a lot. Yeah, I think that definitely swelled its ranks. But 1065 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:53.479 now I think they're discriminating people reading heavy metal too. I mean, yeah, 1066 01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:55.760 go back and look at a lot of those issues. Yeah, there's 1067 01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.159 I guess there's money of the Sword and Sandal, big titted girl. What 1068 01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:02.119 brought me in as a kid, right, Yeah, it was an equal 1069 01:17:02.199 --> 01:17:05.840 appeal. Yeah, and that for me. But that's funny because you know, 1070 01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:09.319 and you know, I keep thinking about what I want to make as 1071 01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:12.399 you know, our next movies and stuff, and I keep going back to 1072 01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:18.359 wanting to do something that's a naked fantasy sci fi mashup. Not necessarily like 1073 01:17:18.439 --> 01:17:21.359 you know, Star Wars is for everybody, but like you know, Flash 1074 01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:25.279 Gordon was you know, pretty sexy. There's got to be a way to 1075 01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:30.800 do that with it not being poorish and misogynistic. Well, let's see what 1076 01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:33.239 they do with Barbarella. It's gonna be bad. Yeah, Barbarella was bad 1077 01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:36.960 in the sixties. It's not a good movie. It's just pretty. It 1078 01:17:38.119 --> 01:17:41.399 is very pretty. It's it's a beautiful movie. The imagery is fantastic. 1079 01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:47.079 There's always a need I think for adult adventure and fantasy and sci fi, 1080 01:17:47.159 --> 01:17:50.880 I think there's a need for it. I think Zack Snyder keeps trying to 1081 01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:55.279 do it poorly lately, poorly when he started out not so much. You 1082 01:17:55.479 --> 01:18:00.239 great that three hundreds fantastic, Watchman's fantastic, like that first Rebeluin wasn't very 1083 01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:02.640 good, and I haven't second any good No, And I hate it. 1084 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:09.520 I like being grane and I don't think you understand. They need space grade. 1085 01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:13.159 He needs space grade. They came here and an interstiller cry out because 1086 01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:15.760 they will hear wheat when they're gorgeous. Though, I would like to see 1087 01:18:15.840 --> 01:18:20.479 him do an avvy metal genre movie with with maybe somebody else writing it. 1088 01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:25.239 Somebody should write a script and then he should make that script. He should 1089 01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:29.520 be involved in the development at all. But anyways, but going back to 1090 01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:36.159 the seventeen no, going back to the which what we're in, the beautiful 1091 01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:40.000 but deadly It's it you can get as a collected book. In fact, 1092 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:44.800 you can read it that Reconmims recommics. Yeah, because I always as when 1093 01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:47.119 I was younger, I liked that one because it was all these guys are 1094 01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:51.159 getting high and this girl's got you know, his sexy and she's not completely 1095 01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:54.520 naked, so I kind of want to see what's going on even more. 1096 01:18:54.640 --> 01:18:57.359 And she is completely naked. Oh yeah she is, doesn't She went, 1097 01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:00.479 that's right when she's laying down, and then it's like yeah, then his 1098 01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:02.880 hand spins around like a little bill though. I think he was nat and 1099 01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:08.920 Ivan Wrightman invested so much of his new capital in this, yeah, you 1100 01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:12.680 know, and he would he would eventually do I'm not bauching foroo quality of 1101 01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:15.239 the move, but Space Jam he pushed through. Yeah, even after making 1102 01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:18.640 this film and it was a nightmare. Even answer Roberts A Mechis told him, 1103 01:19:18.720 --> 01:19:21.720 don't do it. It takes forever and you're just gonna be frustrated. 1104 01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:26.920 And that Greg he you know, he continued his commitment to animation and at 1105 01:19:26.960 --> 01:19:31.680 that time hands but you know, Roberts Mechas made a masterpiece though, Oh 1106 01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:36.399 clear, because that that Roger Rabbit. Every now, every whenever I think 1107 01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:41.119 about that, we were to see anything about that, it was magical. 1108 01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:45.840 No Calleague, the filmmaking, that script is perfect, It's perfect, absolutely 1109 01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:50.439 perfect. Every line leads to something, and see he lays everything out for 1110 01:19:50.520 --> 01:19:54.880 you and you have no idea until the end. It is g and Eddie 1111 01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:58.279 Murphy is still kicking himself to this day for turning it down. But would 1112 01:19:58.319 --> 01:20:02.279 it have worked with Eddie Murphy maybe maybe, Yeah, I think so if 1113 01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:06.039 you're playing a character and this was sitting on him a little bit. Yeah. 1114 01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:10.840 And it's funny that, like it's not successful outside of it, Like 1115 01:20:10.920 --> 01:20:14.520 the Roger Rabbit cartoon in the universe never took off, like it just it 1116 01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:16.239 is what it is, and that's fine. It works because it's the line 1117 01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:20.640 action. Yeah, yeah, the cartoons. Look, the cartoon that starts 1118 01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:25.720 Roger Rabbit is great, it's very yeah, but then the rest of it, 1119 01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:29.239 it's just him being brutalized. Yeah. So once you start watching more 1120 01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:30.880 shorts that are just based on watching him get the shit kicked out of him, 1121 01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:34.359 not interested. I like Roger. Yeah, you spend two hours with 1122 01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:38.000 him, and you like, go on this journey with him where he grows, 1123 01:20:38.039 --> 01:20:41.600 it becomes brave and listen. Yeah. Plus I don't bind that he's 1124 01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:45.439 such a fucking dish rag it because he's got Jessica exactly, like, come 1125 01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:53.079 on, But it's a similar pairing to the Robot and the Secretary. Yeah. 1126 01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:55.840 Absolutely, you know, it's just a little the little guy in the 1127 01:20:55.880 --> 01:21:00.079 bombshell. It's a great cartoon bearing it really works. Works even the animated 1128 01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:04.000 Adam's Family or like the cart in the old comic strips. Goldmez is usually 1129 01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:10.479 more dominated than Squat. Yeah. Yeah, besides the read that is Mortician 1130 01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:16.960 stories nearly my stories nearly complete. He had five stories fucked right, No 1131 01:21:17.039 --> 01:21:21.399 matter who I run into, I'm just gonna spiel it on and I gotta 1132 01:21:21.399 --> 01:21:26.199 tell them five tales. But like, like he's that good? Is he 1133 01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:30.960 tested out material? Turn out the lock now stand like a spire. He's 1134 01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:33.840 trying to get on there. He's got a couple of generals coming up in 1135 01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:36.479 La and he wants to make sure his pitches are all solid. Yeah, 1136 01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:40.359 he's got to work on the new material. Have a Netflix special coming up. 1137 01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:45.760 Man got to lock that all down. Tarn awesome boobage. You know, 1138 01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:49.119 like South Park did a whole thing just based on Tarno did their whole 1139 01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:53.920 did a whole sequence or an episode on it when they tried to say everything 1140 01:21:53.920 --> 01:21:56.520 and I think they missed the mark and they hit the mark at the same 1141 01:21:56.560 --> 01:21:59.840 time. It's not my favorite story. It's not it's kind of a long 1142 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:02.520 takes forever and like it doesn't make a lot of sense. I wish they'd 1143 01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:05.479 be young, because, as you said, her in the middle portion of 1144 01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:10.760 this movie fires like fucking gang. Yeah it does. It's him after it 1145 01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:15.520 hit den through. Yeah, the previous but this is all just basically it 1146 01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:18.399 ends with it just you can link back to the framing device of the little 1147 01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:23.720 girl and who cares. Yeah, I didn't need her at all. This 1148 01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:27.479 movie could have just had the lock nar fly in from outer space and address 1149 01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:30.680 me. Yeah, audience member, go hey, fuck her, Yeah, 1150 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.159 I'm evil. Yeah, and here's how you lie. I think, Tarna. 1151 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:40.880 It was a fleshed out story. There's the world is interesting, the 1152 01:22:41.079 --> 01:22:44.640 universe is interesting, agreed. It's gorgeous, Yeah, and it's pretty. 1153 01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:47.079 But they spend also five minutes of her flying, a lot of time flying, 1154 01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:50.479 a lot of time, a lot of time fetish shotting, not only 1155 01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:57.239 the actual fetish shots of her getting dressed, but like the disrobing and swimming 1156 01:22:57.279 --> 01:23:00.960 across the moat and then climbing the stairs slowly, and it's just even like 1157 01:23:01.159 --> 01:23:05.960 putting on a sleeve, it takes twenty five seconds to just go up. 1158 01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:09.800 You haven't been to go up and they never put it on. And then 1159 01:23:10.199 --> 01:23:14.680 ten seconds on every shot is like fifteen seconds to long. We would talk 1160 01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:18.520 about the male gaze. This sequence is the male gaze. Everything you were 1161 01:23:18.560 --> 01:23:24.439 complaining about heavy metal, here it is. And the funny thing is, 1162 01:23:24.960 --> 01:23:28.560 she's not even that good at her job. She's a poor Takian she is. 1163 01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:30.199 The minute she gets on the thing, she flies around for a little 1164 01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:33.600 while. The minute she goes into the bad guy's domain, she gets captured, 1165 01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:36.880 and she flies into the thing and immediately she's in a net and the 1166 01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:42.119 guy whips her naked whi big knee by whip, and he beats the shit 1167 01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:45.439 out of her. The counter argument has always been, but Tarna is a 1168 01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:49.800 strong female character, and I would say who is captured, stripped, possibly 1169 01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:54.600 raped, definitely whipped, absolutely right. They're just knowing like, thank god 1170 01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:56.960 we don't have that, we didn't have to endure this. Thank god the 1171 01:23:57.239 --> 01:23:59.680 Game of Thrones guys weren't behind it. Who would have gotten that? Who? 1172 01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:01.680 But so this poor thing is to go through all that and then you 1173 01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:06.760 know, the creature saves her. You know, the creature saves her like 1174 01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:12.800 even like member, that's the hero of Yeah, you make this poor character 1175 01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:15.880 like this horny thing the whole thing, and you don't even make her a 1176 01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:19.239 badness at the end. The finishouts we were just discussing, they're fine. 1177 01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:24.119 I mean, I'm not going to complain as a young male exactly, but 1178 01:24:24.239 --> 01:24:30.000 I mean, but particularly now as a lover of cinema and cinema music, 1179 01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:33.520 this is really the segment where we get to hear and kind of luxuriate in 1180 01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:46.840 Elmer Bernstein. Yeah, Elmer Bernstein of the Magnificent set. Yeah, And 1181 01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:50.720 it's a weird thing how his career, Like I remember learning this from my 1182 01:24:50.840 --> 01:24:54.960 Animal House, a laser disc that I had in high school or whatever it 1183 01:24:55.159 --> 01:25:00.439 was, and the audio commentary on from lanasacking, Yeah, he was this 1184 01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:02.800 prestigious guy who's gonna get older. And then I'm like, can we get 1185 01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:08.840 him? And he comes in with his magnificent score that makes that B movie 1186 01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:11.640 into an A movie. Like it's just a horny college way, but he 1187 01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:16.239 has that music in it, like it's really like expensive sound. It's collegiate. 1188 01:25:16.439 --> 01:25:20.199 It's collegiate. That's what college sounds like. Right. We've heard that 1189 01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:26.760 score replicated at least good times since and the Great thing about the genius thing 1190 01:25:26.800 --> 01:25:30.880 of it is that he hires Elmer Bernstein and says, don't make it at 1191 01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:33.600 comedies. But you know it's another but when he does do a comedy store 1192 01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:39.439 in Stripes, it's beautiful. It's beautiful. And the Bennet's Store was used 1193 01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:44.399 in every fucking Columbia trailer the entire of the nineteen eighties. If you wanted 1194 01:25:44.399 --> 01:25:57.239 to signify fun, it was Elmer Bernstein's score from Stripes. And but he 1195 01:25:57.520 --> 01:26:00.479 was an educated score. You know, when we went, I'm gonna go 1196 01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:02.800 back to our own ship, to our own horn, but I'm gonna I'm 1197 01:26:02.800 --> 01:26:08.319 gonna build up our composer, Mark Chafferu and Marcus Schafferu and that's older brother, 1198 01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:11.600 my older brother too. Basically at this point he did art spaces like 1199 01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:13.399 disco. When we sat down and do it, I go, I want 1200 01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:15.880 the characters have themes. I want this zizzo to to sound like this, 1201 01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:20.840 and I want And he wrote little themes for everybody, and I I first 1202 01:26:21.119 --> 01:26:26.439 became aware of that not even Star Wars Stripes. As a kid, I'm 1203 01:26:26.479 --> 01:26:29.199 like, you're telling Bill Murray comes on the screen, He's got that loser 1204 01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:41.920 music and it's it is and it's just wonderful, and it carries over he 1205 01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:46.199 does Ghostbusters and it carries over into Ghostbusters too, like Elma Burnstein is the 1206 01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:50.279 King of the Woodwinds. Yeah, a lot of Yeah, but the little 1207 01:26:50.359 --> 01:26:53.960 the loser music or telling Mark that, I'm like, give me that kind 1208 01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:57.960 of quality Wheneverizzo's on screen, I want this loser of music, Elma Burns 1209 01:26:57.960 --> 01:27:01.199 seeing it, the fact that he had like this Rhinaissan's all because even rightman 1210 01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:05.319 and Joe and Landis John Landers, like, you know, we're fans. 1211 01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:10.760 It's neat it how that's how the movie business should worked. Like you know, 1212 01:27:11.079 --> 01:27:13.600 you guy, you grew up loving and you're making a movie. You 1213 01:27:13.680 --> 01:27:16.159 can hire him to work with you. You're learning from him, Yeah, 1214 01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:21.680 while providing you know, not only adoration, like a chance to do great 1215 01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:26.600 work. And Bursting did some of his best work in the nineteenes and this 1216 01:27:26.840 --> 01:27:31.399 man was fucking massively busy during the nineteen sixties. Yeah, thank god I 1217 01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:35.479 had the right mean, thank god John, like absolutely, But what's funny 1218 01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:41.039 to me is now having heard the entirety at the Squirre, you realize how 1219 01:27:41.159 --> 01:27:44.479 very little of it there is. There is a villain I mean anything with 1220 01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:47.720 the Locke nar certainly of the entirety of the dead sequence, because there's no 1221 01:27:48.479 --> 01:27:53.319 reason to cutting, Like it's beautiful, man, it's really neat stuff. 1222 01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:57.880 Yeah, that's the other thing, Like that's what makes the Tarna sequence work 1223 01:27:58.119 --> 01:28:16.760 work, And they're not even Like they're gazy and they're objective whatever you want 1224 01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:20.159 to call it, but they're not horny. So even as a teenager, 1225 01:28:20.239 --> 01:28:24.399 I'm like, oh, just fucking show me your titty or not, right, 1226 01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:26.640 you know what I mean? Like it was was it even? But 1227 01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:30.000 yeah, I agree with you, Like I was never turned on there, 1228 01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:34.319 no by Tarna in the entire sequence. It's like it's the one with the 1229 01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:39.880 most male gays and it accomplishes the least effect. Yeah, because any of 1230 01:28:39.960 --> 01:28:46.399 the previous horny sequences in the movie are way more sexy because it's more dead 1231 01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:50.600 where the laughs cover up the fact how horny it is because you're looking at 1232 01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:56.000 into the eyes of this kid. It works because it's to the eyes of 1233 01:28:56.039 --> 01:29:00.359 a teenager. Right, It's the most meta of any of the story because 1234 01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:02.359 it's it's laying it out for you, like I am the horny teenager. 1235 01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:06.720 Yeah, oh I'm living my horny teenager life. Like I'm this isn't wish 1236 01:29:06.720 --> 01:29:13.880 fulfillment in any form of subterfused. What what I would have liked is better 1237 01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:17.560 rock music, Like, yeah, there's music in it, and I guess 1238 01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:21.560 everybody was huge at the time, Chief Trick probably being the best band they 1239 01:29:21.640 --> 01:29:26.800 got. There's some blue Waister called him there. But there's no Zeppelin, 1240 01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:30.079 there's no Sabbath. They were I think they were trying to go with manness 1241 01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:33.000 that were current, I guess, but there's nothing. There's no Iron Maiden 1242 01:29:33.079 --> 01:29:36.079 in it. We were coming out in nineteen eighty one called heavy metal. 1243 01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:41.800 That doesn't have Iron Maiden or Judas Priest in it. None of that music 1244 01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:45.079 in that movie slaps like that, except for the star, the Cheap Trek 1245 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:48.640 sequence, the Cheap Tricks sequence, and the opening of B seven. Yes, 1246 01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:51.880 those are the two. Those are the two songs that I'll listen to 1247 01:29:53.039 --> 01:29:55.399 sort of still off the sound, but you know the onunny things that bit 1248 01:29:55.479 --> 01:29:59.840 I don't care for and it's too bad because of a weird segue. But 1249 01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:05.199 those the Taiko dd thor movies, why do use of the Zeppelin music? 1250 01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:09.640 And for some reason it doesn't really work very well. And I agree, 1251 01:30:10.600 --> 01:30:14.600 it's too obvious, it's yeah, and it's not cut to it right, 1252 01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:17.199 It's just like, here's a cool thing on top of it. And I'm 1253 01:30:17.279 --> 01:30:21.960 like, if I had the blessings of Odin himself to give me a Led 1254 01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:28.119 Zeppelin song for my movie, I would not sleep for a week until I 1255 01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:32.119 had every single beat of that movie cut to my movie, because when when 1256 01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:38.279 you get that chance. The trailer was better than the movie, at least 1257 01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:42.319 with the use of the Zeppelin, just like it's just the use of the 1258 01:30:42.399 --> 01:30:46.319 immigrant song and school rock is better. I will say that the music placement 1259 01:30:46.520 --> 01:30:50.520 in this film, While some of the songs have not stood the test of 1260 01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:55.960 time and some of the artists are kind of questionable, I do think that 1261 01:30:56.079 --> 01:31:01.239 the musically they choose pieces from the songs that really yeah, because like in 1262 01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:05.840 So Beautiful, So Deadly that actually I think has the most music cues in. 1263 01:31:06.119 --> 01:31:09.760 In fact, there's a whole other trick song in there that we only 1264 01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:23.880 get one little slice of when they are being sucked into the shit. This 1265 01:31:24.079 --> 01:31:26.520 is a good, good, kind of like subject here to wrop the movie 1266 01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:30.920 up with. But like what I like about heavy metal or reminded me about 1267 01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:32.720 it when I watched it again, it was something that movies lacked. Heavy 1268 01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:38.000 metal was Coolah, heavy metal was a cool thing. If you had an 1269 01:31:38.079 --> 01:31:42.680 older brother or an older cousin or something like that, they knew about heavy 1270 01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:46.640 metal and it was a cool thing that like teenagers and college kids got to 1271 01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:49.720 go and you they only showed it at midnight, and like, you know 1272 01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:53.439 what I mean, and you know your mam will get pissed if you were 1273 01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:58.079 watching it. It was cool and it was dangerous. Movies aren't cool anymore. 1274 01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:01.439 Like it's superhero movies. And I love superheroes. I love that genre, 1275 01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:04.640 but like cool about superheroes. The whole point of superheroes is the nerd 1276 01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:08.399 not cool. Star Wars was cool when I was a kid, but it's 1277 01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:12.640 not very cool now. It's everything is nerdy, So like the where is 1278 01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:16.479 the edge at without it being you know, edgy the coolest part and parcel 1279 01:32:16.520 --> 01:32:19.439 with the music. Yeah, it's part of the attitude of the whole thing. 1280 01:32:19.560 --> 01:32:24.560 Yeah, I don't know that it can be recaptured because part of that 1281 01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:28.760 thing that we everybody was big at least in that movie and then taught everybody 1282 01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:30.800 was a day. The music is what they sold. Oh yeah, as 1283 01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:33.359 the stars of the movie. Well, what's funny is of course that the 1284 01:32:33.479 --> 01:32:36.800 music would beat the movies undoing, because part of the mystique, the part 1285 01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:41.800 of that cool factor, is that it never came to videos because the rights 1286 01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:45.359 issues with the music couldn't be resolved because nobody was thinking about home media, 1287 01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:48.520 because there was no idea that it was happening. So so each individual deal 1288 01:32:48.600 --> 01:32:53.359 with each of the artists couldn't get it on video. It wasn't until nineteen 1289 01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:58.159 ninety six, Thank you Kevin and the Eastman who actually put the deal together 1290 01:32:58.319 --> 01:33:00.640 and then got us the movie full that's what that re release with cinemas happened 1291 01:33:00.680 --> 01:33:03.600 and everything. Yeah, so I caught my first year of college US a 1292 01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:09.359 year at college. Yeah, you think heavy melts are there cool bands? 1293 01:33:09.439 --> 01:33:13.880 Now? It's not on a cool sort of rock bands out there, right, 1294 01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:16.199 No. I imagine a new heavy metal would be pretty much drenched in 1295 01:33:16.279 --> 01:33:20.720 hip hop, honestly, Yeah, or Harry styles, something new. I 1296 01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:24.600 mean, that was the thing, Like all of those songs were new. 1297 01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:27.920 That was you know, heavy metal was a new genre at the time, 1298 01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:31.399 Like it was all just bubbling up and it was kind of lightning in a 1299 01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:36.680 bottle. I think that the way to approach it now it's rather than drown 1300 01:33:36.800 --> 01:33:41.760 it and Trent music is drown it in Classics can be the weirdest reference I 1301 01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:45.479 think I'm ever gonna make. I follow Justine Bateman Mallory. I follow her 1302 01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:48.000 to you follow her on Instagram. Okay, so she's a TV director and 1303 01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:53.439 she's an anti AI crusader and all this shit, But she made she made 1304 01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:56.720 a point about something that was being recycled or whatever she was. Here you 1305 01:33:56.800 --> 01:33:59.840 go another example of the fact that you're just going to be living only with 1306 01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:02.439 twentieth century pop culture for the rest of your life. Like everything that our 1307 01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:08.960 culture uses comes from me twentieth century Marvin, twentieth century, Star Wars, 1308 01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:13.800 Marvin twentieth century. Even Harry Potter was published in the late nineties, you 1309 01:34:13.880 --> 01:34:16.159 know, like, and everything AI is drawing from it is from a fucking 1310 01:34:16.399 --> 01:34:21.479 catalog of images from fucking from the twenty Yeah, I just like that. 1311 01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:26.399 The movie was a big influence on me. The comic was a big influence 1312 01:34:26.479 --> 01:34:30.279 on me, Like I wouldn't have made the movie that I made without heavy 1313 01:34:30.359 --> 01:34:34.600 letal, Like just from the rock and roll kind of attitude of the film 1314 01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:39.840 where you know, where are we kind of space Detective is? You know, 1315 01:34:39.960 --> 01:34:42.439 it's what it is is. That's how we could make it. You 1316 01:34:42.520 --> 01:34:45.479 know, it might have been only a cartoon if we had all the money 1317 01:34:45.479 --> 01:34:48.239 in the world, or might have been only live action. You know, 1318 01:34:48.399 --> 01:34:50.760 I don't know, but it is what it is, and it looks what 1319 01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:56.159 it is because I have AMoD It's got that this mix of you know, 1320 01:34:56.520 --> 01:35:00.199 sci fi and culture and sexy girls and all that kind of that. Comic 1321 01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:03.760 It was like I read comics all growing up, but Heavy Metal was like 1322 01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:08.039 when I got an issue of it was kind of a treat because you know 1323 01:35:08.239 --> 01:35:11.840 it was going to be different. It wasn't going to be the usual American 1324 01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:17.520 thing. It was warmly was and it was wildly rereadable. Yeah man, 1325 01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:21.760 yeah, I could pour over one issue of Heavy Metal for a year. 1326 01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:26.039 Yeah. And back then we were getting them once a month. It was 1327 01:35:26.279 --> 01:35:29.119 crazy. And the funny thing is my comic shop, I don't they ever 1328 01:35:29.199 --> 01:35:30.600 carried it. You had to get into the seven eleven. Yeah, you 1329 01:35:30.680 --> 01:35:33.960 had to get it set on it up near the Playboys up nearly Playboys, 1330 01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:39.359 And there's a deep well of stories there too, I think. But there 1331 01:35:39.399 --> 01:35:44.159 could be more heavy metal movie or at a television show series. There's still 1332 01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:48.159 something there. Well, absolutely, people like what drives me crazy is they're 1333 01:35:48.199 --> 01:35:50.800 like, let's do a new movie and write a whole new screenplay. Like 1334 01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:56.760 if you're gonna make an anthology, they're already there. You already already have 1335 01:35:56.880 --> 01:36:00.359 the rights to have ever instant and like you and the fan niet fantasy anywhere 1336 01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:03.199 because it was we you know, we were in a by culture back then. 1337 01:36:03.359 --> 01:36:06.960 Oh yeah, it was fantasy was yeah, sci fi was hard to 1338 01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:13.039 find. Yeah, fantasy, you were good luck. And again it was 1339 01:36:13.079 --> 01:36:15.920 for growing ups and if you for a teenager, that was meat. For 1340 01:36:16.079 --> 01:36:20.800 college kid, that was like something for me day and something cool. Yeah, 1341 01:36:20.880 --> 01:36:26.079 something cool. This movie is definitely cool. And I think that's where 1342 01:36:26.079 --> 01:36:29.079 we're gonna wrap things up here. Pleadies and gentlemen, thank you for joining 1343 01:36:29.159 --> 01:36:32.640 us here on midnight Viewing, and thank you once again to Swamp Media Group 1344 01:36:32.680 --> 01:36:39.439 for joining us here for this lively animated discussion. Antonio, where can people 1345 01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:41.680 find you? What are you working on? What do they want to get 1346 01:36:41.680 --> 01:36:43.560 in? Touched? Do you wanted they want to see your stuff? So 1347 01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:46.479 you want to head over to Swamp MediaGroup dot com. You can find us 1348 01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:51.439 at Swamp Media group on Instagram. Spacedetectivemovie dot com. You can learn all 1349 01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:55.239 about Space Detective there, you can watch the movie. There, you can 1350 01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:58.279 order a T shirt with a you and you use the dough. We're currently 1351 01:36:58.319 --> 01:37:01.039 working on a couple of short films right now. One's called at Living Ben 1352 01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:06.560 stars Matt as a gentleman who gets bit by his arm beat and live streams 1353 01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:10.880 the whole thing. So once he gets big, you see him dying over 1354 01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:15.840 the course of like forty five minutes. And there's some really cool internet stuff 1355 01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:19.800 and you know, comments on modern society and ship and there's a pretty good, 1356 01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:24.479 uh, pretty good sequence in there with with Father Malone. That's pretty 1357 01:37:24.479 --> 01:37:27.680 good. Yeah, despite that, you should watch it. And we have 1358 01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:33.439 another short film called Jim starring Matt. You're gonna tell them about that dude 1359 01:37:33.560 --> 01:37:40.119 sucking out in the desert. Care in a box. There's a voice that's 1360 01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:45.319 able to open up. Don't give it away. Yeah that's enough. Yeah, 1361 01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:47.439 it's pretty cool. It's a good one. You're gonna have to keep 1362 01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.159 your eyes out for it. I'll be advertising it here when it does. 1363 01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:54.000 And then we're gonna we're gonna start up our next feature, probably by the 1364 01:37:54.079 --> 01:37:57.199 end of the year, next year sometime. Yeah, yeah, we're pretty 1365 01:37:57.199 --> 01:37:59.600 excited, you know, getting back into it. That COVID you know, 1366 01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:01.520 we tell you COVID knocked us out for a couple of years until we had 1367 01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:04.920 it or anything, but it shut everything so down, like it took a 1368 01:38:04.960 --> 01:38:08.840 few years just to jump start back up. But here we are here, 1369 01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:12.279 we are thank you for having us. 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