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for which the podcast is named. I am Drew Hayes. Joining me today
is M. K. Gibson, Robert Bevin, E. M. Kaplan,
Steve Weatherill, and Wick Rick Terry. We got get there. We
got to this stay where we can't even pronounce his first name with spiral.
I think Wick actually works, you know, mister Wick. I'm good with
this. Oh well, uh yeah, anyway, today we're doing uh questions
from you, answers from us. Structure this stalling? Yes, Rick,
you ready? Sure? Why the funck not? That's the spirit, all
right. So I have not had a chance to look these over so I'm
just gonna be pulling them in random. But our first question comes from our
friend Sharif, and Sharif asks if you could only have one kind of carbon
protein for a year, what would it be. Oh no, that's a
good question. So let's let's let's narrow down some parameters first. When we
say one kind of protein, does that mean only cow or only burgers?
Like? How how narrow are we talking? Let's make this as difficult as
possible. Okay, so specific, not just one protein, one preparation style
of protein. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, I'm
gonna say, you know what, I'm actually gonna go burger for my protein
because you can do a lot with a burger. It is a canvas upon
which many different flavors can be painted. I feel like you could take it
in a lot of directions and works for multiple meals. You can you can
make a breakfast burger and then carb I mean, I feel like pasta is
just the obvious. I think you, I think you already shut yourself on
the foot. Your burger is your carbanger protein together. I don't know what
you're talking about, buddy. You can make a burger patty out of dry
Ramene boy before we get into that which is possibive. I've had this argument
with friends a lot, burger or pizza back and forth. You gotta pick
one, one lives, one dies, Burger or pizza. I feel like
if I lived in a region with better pizza, I would probably say pizza.
But I can get many better burgers around me than I can pizza.
I'm okay with substantive pizza. Yeah, yeah, me too. But are
you okay with cheeseless pizza? Because that sucks? And that's where that's that's
the realm I'm in. Yeah, fuck you, Like because my my,
my protein slash carb could just be a meat lover's pizza indefinitely and I could
do that forever. H that's a hard one. It's a strong one,
but it leaves you nowhere, no pivots like a meat lover's pizza. Like
you can add things to it, but it's the fundamental structure. Is kind
of forgive the joke baked in, But I feel the same way about the
burger because like I've had have you ever had a delicious breakfast PiZZ where they
like use the U use a biscuit as the base and then like the oh,
the sausage gravy for like the sauce and then the cheese on top of
egg. Holy heck, no I haven't. But now I'm going to take
breakfast pizza. Is last night's pizza for breakfast? Well that there's that I
thought that was going, but specifically breakfast pizza. There's some places that will
make it. Like again it's biscuit. Use a biscuit for the for the
crust. You fill that thing with like the sausage gravy, egg on top,
and then you can pepper in some like you know, ham, some
ham or whatever kind of meat you would like, and then the cheese on
top. And Baba made that here a couple of times, and it's pretty
damn good. By that thing. We can just stack whatever we want and
cool it pizza just like any pile of stuff is pizza. In that case,
I'm having, like my cub is going to be the everything stack of
pizza. Yeah, pizza is a bit of a cheese. It's like saying,
I mean technically anything you wrap and like you know, in something as
a burrito. Yeah, I guess if we're gonna if we're gonna narrow it
down by the same parameter. You got to pick one type of crust one,
you know, crust type. It can be weed or what have you,
and you can vary within that. But and then you'll you can't even
do meat lovers because that's multiple types of proteins right there, all right,
and it's under your rules. I mean I didn't. I did never agree
to this draconian mind. Oh yeah, if we're doing just if we're doing
the wide range, then cow, yeah, yeah, beef and beer,
that's my choices done. Like if if I spent the year doing just chicken,
this is the year, this is the year. Give you Fridly gets
off his ass and gets leaned. It's just I just do the MCU diet,
then yeah, I could probably do that for that year. Thanks,
thanks for someone else supplying the food and making me do it. So sure,
that's right. Chicken and broccoli absolutely miserable but ricked. Yeah yeah,
but but I don't eat the broccoli. That's that's listen. I have I
have a rule. If you apply flame to something and it smells like farc
don't eat it. Yeah, that's just so, that's most vegetables, nothing
but chicken and broccoli for a year, your toilet is going to explode itself.
My guts will explode itself. I can't eat taco bell and not shit
three times the next day. So are you kidding me? W it of
bach season almost fifty but I got abs. I know you're put off,
but oddly turned on at the same time. Weird, isn't it. I've
got as misery. Most of the app definition came from shitting, all right,
so I saw. So if we're going by that parameter, we we
we've recently we've got like an air frar here, maybe a couple of months
back. And I'm just gonna say that air f air fryer fried chicken.
It's healthier than like, you know, regular fried chicken. And you can
do a ship ton with it. So there's a lot there's a lot of
options there, and it still tastes better than just bland, like you know,
grilled chicken. Oh I'm gonna jump in here. Air frying is not
a real thing. That's quickly baking. Oh shit, now we're getting down
into the controversy. Hots take from Bevin Hot. I mean, if you
want to get really down to it, it's convection baking within a specifically limited
and highly circulated air. Listen, we got one of those Instant Pot air
fryer. It's it's one of those. It's like, now, what's the
other small leven the toaster roven that also does air frying. And this thing
is the shit. It's the best chicken nuggets you've ever had. But it
makes pizza faster and better. It does everything just better. Oh so yeah,
I mean for like frozen stuff, especially things like bagel bites and whatnot.
I love an air fryer like that circulation and that that that convection.
You do get a much quicker, better faster fry. Now that doesn't work
on things that need time. You really you want to specific specifically keep it
to things that you're trying to kind of heat fast. And hayes the model
we got. Actually you can do a rotissy chicken and there comes with the
attachment. Can put the chicken in, it'll rotissary that chicken inside of it.
Okay, you have a munch fit. I just have an air fryer.
There's no rotisserie rat so good. The parent company that owns Instant Pot
apparently is going out of business. They do a megasale for all their stuff.
So you got like this like six hundred dollars thing down like you know,
one hundred and ninety dollars, like it was huge discounts and a lot
of their stuff. So we got one of those they're going out of business
sale and oh my god, well yeah it's out of business stories there is
because they made the instant pot they got it, did it really well.
They got bought by a venture capitalist firm who is like, you have to
make a million other products. They made a million other products. It fucking
tanked and the company went out of business. And the more stories. I
have a great air fryer, but it's not just true, is saying I
mean three hundred and forty degrees about forty five minutes it will make a perfect
sweet potato for example. Yes, huh, I have never done a sweet
potato in there, and I never would because I fucking hate them. Oh
sweet potatoes are good. I used to hate them, but like I I've
grown to appreciate the sweet potato. Oh no, no, I sweet potato
can just eat shit in every form. I agree. I just make them
for my wife. So that's your chos. Yeah, if I'm trying to
get super lean that's my choice because I will not fucking eat it getting with
the potatoes. So ours has a root tissrie basket that that comes with it,
and putting frozen French fries in it so much better and so less of
a nightmare than like, you know, then putting frozen French fries in the
oven and sitting there going okay, it's been forty minutes. No they're still
frozen. Oh absolutely, for it's a world of difference. We should probably
tackle a second question because I'm hungry now. Thanks, make sure we for
dragging us down. This always jump ont of it is a taco little sandwich.
Go back to twenty fifteen. I never answered that the carbs and protein
question and my my protein si my next skin Emily and got it moving on.
Wait wait, wait, protein eggs because you can make them like a
bazillion waist, But carbs, I'm gonna blow with it. Just make pancakes.
Pancakes for a year. I can do that. That's tasty, all
right. Our friend Zach of all trades asks what's something terrible that you would
never actually do, but you kind of want to do anyway, And he
gives the example of dining and dashing. Did we do this one? Yeah,
we answered this one. Is I think most of us chose random assault.
I know I did, Yeah, killing kids on the internet something else.
We're already living the dream in light of recent politics. I'm not going
to say my coup de tas again. I will say probably my my worst
one is, Uh, sometimes when I get bad service, I do feel
the impulse of like, fuck this person. I shouldn't have to tip for,
you know, truly like bad service. But of course I do because
I've been a server, so you know that's that's probably my like my worst
like, ah, throw a hot coffee at of a something, but that's
not Yeah, how do we get from like essentially, well, let's just
say political violence to I just don't want to leave a tip because I de
escalate from that. So I tipped yesterday and I had a server that only
refilled my coke once and that was after I finished eating, and I tipped
anyway, and I felt bad about it. Well, I think some of
us know which way to class war is going to go. I get upset
when I go when I go to pick up food at a restaurant and order
ahead, I go pick it up, bringing back to the house wherever,
and there's like that I pay for it the register or whatever, and there's
like do you want to tip or even do it online? You want to?
Do? You want to? Like I'm doing. I know, I'm
paying you for the food, like it's you're not serving me. But there's
always that tip function there, and damn it, I tend to tip because
I just and it's fucked up. But that is a tipped position. That's
a server having to fill that role for their shift, usually speaking from the
way they Okay, well that makes me feel better because when I do tip.
Now, before I was like, you know, I use a tip
the grudgingly out of just nicety. Now I feel like, okay, I
can write this one all mentally ethically zone And there's probably a restaurant basically saying,
oh, we'll pay you. We'll pay you like three bucks an hour
to like, you know, to man this register. Yeah, it's I
think it's about I think it's worse than food running because I think food running
they had to pay you minimum wage for that shift. Well, it's turned
out to be a depressing question, ye, sort of the thing of like
having been on the other side sometimes you give bad service because you've just been
fucked, like you just got triple sat or you know, they're pulling you
in a different thing, like there are a million ways that can be out
of your control, and you're gonna give shitty service. You know what.
There is a limit to this now because I keep on seeing memes from Americans
where they're like they'll show a picture of their table and they've stacked all the
dishes after they're done, and they're like, if you don't do this,
field server, then you're an asshole. I'm like, I am going out
to be served. If I want to do the dishes, I will fucking
stay home. What do you want to even take him into the kitchen as
well wash him for him? How fucking hard do you need to lie about
being a good person on the internet? You free? But then there's like
the then there's the shitheads like we're like, well, you know, I
never I never put like a tip in the door dash you know, if
if the service is good, I'll give them cash. It's like, no,
you're not, you fucking liar. Also, the service is probably not
gonna be good because nobody's gonna take that order because there's no tip associated with
it. Yep, that's true. I I tend to stack the dishes,
but it's not don't don't at me, dude. It's not out of like
nicety for the server. It's because I can't stand the asymmetric bullshit on the
table, like it's the OCD y yes bus, just because I want the
space dishes spread across my table. Yeah, if you're doing it for your
own convenience, that's fine. If you're doing it to take a photo and
shame people on the internet, Christ, I'm not gonna all right, I'm
not that I'm not that white on the internet. It's just you know,
all right. So, so one one of my kids used to work at
Target and they would tell me about all the la all I won't even say
petty, but all the thefts that would happen, you know, when people
come would come in with like you know, with with with just like fraudulently
target cards and buy iPads and there wasn't ship they could do about it.
And it's like yeah, Target car Yeah, and it's like that's terrible.
But at the same time, there's that part of me that's like I'd walk
in there with a with a fraudulent target card walk out with an iPad schair.
So Rick was steal electronics from major Jane restaurants and that's pretty good.
Yeah, I mean that's that's honestly probably the most victim was crime is just
is stealing from a multi billion dollar corporation. Yeah. I wouldn't stack my
dishes. That's how I'm lashing. I've got one, here's a piece of
ship burn it. What you got. I've been I've been driving for Uber
and Lyft for the past couple of years. The worst thing I hate is
a gated apartment. So because you know, people never give you the codes,
so you're just gonna sit there at the gate. I would just drive
straight through the gates, just tut up the gated apartment in college because they
all were because they didn't want people going into their fucking pools, which we
did anyway, but multiple times people coming home, let's say, having had
fun at the bar, employed exactly that method. And let me tell you,
man, those gates they are not built to withstands. Well, that's
like at every one of those movies, they got like gun it, gun
it in the speed of the cardgo and they busted the gate. I want.
Yes, I've always wanted to bust through a gate in an actual adventure
type of chase. Well, they also, like you said, they don't
seem like they're really do really need a gun it because they look pretty flimsy.
If I was gonna fly through something, it would be like the parking
divice, like just the wooden beam that goes down, because I feel like
that's a gonna give a satisfying crunch and explosion and probably not break my car.
I'm going to change my answer from earlier. If the tension in your
country has got to the point where we're just driving cars into things we don't
like, I'm going to stack my dishes. I just love some of us
are basically just that we want to be impolite. You know. I want
to do like, you know, a little bit of theft. Bob wants
to do low level grand theft Ahoto, and Emily wants to change the course
of nations. Yeah, I want to drive my car into Steve's dishes.
Well, that means yes, I have load of angry crass warriors go who
do we go after hit? Well, obviously I always wanted to drive my
car into a building, you know, like you see those in enough like
videos and movies in like our closed circuit TV from like seven eleven footage.
Yes, of course I want to drive my car into one of those,
just to see what happens. I will say that I feel like it would
be really cool to, under controlled circumstances, with proper safety and stunt coordinators
in place, drive through a mall a lah Blues brothers. I'd like to
do what Jerry's doing, but without any of the safety, which she's cool,
right, also want to change. I want to drive one of one
of your cars into because I like my car. I want to drive one
of your cars into one of these things that might be driven into. Driving
for a mole, aiming for a restaurant where somebody's stacked. That's just it's
like, no more, no more of this, and then I stop the
server for only giving me coke once I end up driving into bob Is.
They're the same thing for a different reason. So basically what we're saying is
where a hair's breadth between chaos and just pul's control, everything is going to
go up. Well, I think you just I think you just put a
pulse on society there. I think we'll always a hair's breath because we the
political climate, we're just reacting to it, all right. Yeah, like
I've heard that beforewards, Like we all have that like switching our heads,
that like you know, that that keeps us from like you know, from
doing crazy things. And the people who like you know, who say decide
to just streak out during the super Bowl or something like that, for them
that moment, they're switch malfunctions. Yes, I just had a really clear
image of Rick streaking through deceiper Bawl and then Bob just running him down with
his God what a twist. Oh he's running, he's running from the Wait
a minute, did Rick Wilterry just run down Rick? A matt uber driver
just took out his doubleganger? Are we gently the one situation? It's a
highlander situation? Nice? Then they have to get out the sword fight.
So yeah, I would accept this as Bob drives away, like you know,
just you'll thank me for saving the future. That's halftime show ever,
way better Thanana Jex's titty. Yeah, let's go back and remove that time
travel removing it's a Bebba just drives his car a right to the chatty Jackson,
then nobody look show some goddamn respect. If Bevin had a delareate uberca
then we could we could make them traveling Hevin, why are we not writing
these books? You've come back with me? Jackson just appeared in the middle
of Super Bowl and ran over Janey Jackson. Think about it, like now,
that'd be a fun series. Like you don't change major events, just
minor went and they have tremendous outcomes. The fact that we didn't get to
see that ty were caused World War three somehow because that stopped the bombs that
day. There was some guy working at the Pentagon said, fuck it,
I'm done. I'm gonna hit the switch when no one's all titty you know
what, tomorrow will be a better day and doesn't hit it. So I
also lets fake to Bevin is saying that you gotta come back to me,
like not to anybody knows, just like a random kid on the street traveling
white super Bowl time machines say free candy. Super Bowl halftime show, there's
cameras pointed at me. I gotta say something. I'm coming in Disney World.
I'm glad we answered that question again. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
good job. Zach. All right, so our friend Blicks asks, have
you found your writing or a character influenced by by a narrator's reading as you
get deeper into a series one thousand or some or some of these animations of
your character exactly? There are some like there, I to you what you
just said, Emily, Like sometimes when I'm designing a scene for the game,
like, oh man, I hope Flex animates this one. Oh man,
I hope Flex animates this one, because yeah, I want to see
what it looks like. Yeah. Then when it comes to a narrator,
sure, once you get your narrator's timing, their speech pattern, they're like
whether they're comedy, they're actually there's delivery. I to have a running soundtrack
in my head of like how would they say this line or this thing?
So yeah, I write, I write two narrator strengths. I will actually
say I'm the exact opposite. I love my narrators and they do amazing jobs,
but I'm careful never to listen to them too close to what I'm going
to write the next entry, because I try really hard to make sure I'm
hearing the characters' voices. Like as I have remembered them, and sometimes it's
hard for me to get that if I'm going through the level of the narrator
first. So I love my narrators and I always trust them to do the
great job, but I really try and not channel to their voices. Oh
you really made me feel bad, Drew, I said a thing. He's
like, No, them your opposite. So feeling for different folks mostly like
Drew, except with one exception. The way the way Chris, my narrator
for the Bill Books, narrates the character Glenn. Like now, even when
I'm when I'm writing him, I just can hear nothing but his voice.
If I sold better on like e book and paperback, then I might do
the Drew away besince I sell better on audiobook. Fuck it, that's what
I write to my market. So yeah, yeah, I was uh because
my narrator started singing songs. I make sure to include one and every book.
Now, I didn't experience this with my audiobook narrators, but when I
was helping Steve write his Brandon Thigh Master books, I obviously can hear him
talking while I was writing, which is weird. I was I was in
Wolves. Somebody said, you you write, you write Steve better than Steve,
but that isn't true. But that was hilarious to me. All right.
Our friend Seldreana asks what's your favorite shirt or item of clothing and why
the dicey bassive shirt that you can get a tea pot. Yeah. Yeah,
wearing mine today, the real one. Yeah, I'm not at work,
so I can wear the one that says bastards I need. I still
need to buy one of those. Yeah, I've got the the other dicey
bastards I need to buy that in the tip shirt as well. Yeah,
if you work at a conservative financial software company like me, then you have
your option. You can get a shirt without bastards on it. I'm wearing
to build a vampire t shirt today, but I will say one of my
favorite shirts, which I wish I could get another, but the public koot
us in the ass for it. Authors in Dragon's way back when had a
design called Grand Theft Dungeon that Steve had put together. I absolutely love that
shirt, like and of all of the shirts I have, whether it's A
and D or like my or like you know Bill shirts or so, that
was the that was the one that got me stopped where people would be like,
what is that? Like, you know, I got the most notice
it's old, the what a soul said one that they keep on taking down
for copy right reasons. Well, yes there is. Now I've got a
shirt like like it's not it's less for shure. It's like this old fleece,
this big hooded fleece that was like I was like my comfort shirt that
throw on from time to time. But I got that in Korea like in
year two thousand. It's like twenty four years ago. But I still have
that thing, and it's been like I guess that's my uh my woodie.
I guess, so, yeah, I haven't. I have an old like
uh, I guess uh like zip up hoodie that like that I'd like to
wear, like you know, at my desk in the fall in the winter
because it's nice and warm. But this thing is so old and so fucking
ratty that like you know, like I can't wear it outside anywhere because people
would just immediately like throw spare change at me. I like my flannel,
but yeah, I don't get to wear it nine months out of the year
and you're roasting hot garage. Yeah, but I like I like to live
in a place that's perpetual autumn, so I can always wear a hoodie.
I like it so much so because I've always had a hard time finding the
ones I like. But then I think my daughter got me one for my
birthday or Christmas or something. I said, oh, yes, this is
exactly the right field, this is exactly what I'm looking for, and I
asked for I got it. I got it at Waalbart So when I bought
three more of the same ones, I did that whenever I'm buying clients,
I'm like, I like this shit. I'm going to buy free variations of
this shit and just palette swap my outfit for for the next three years.
Yeah. I tend to wear more solid, so if I find this T
shirt that's comfortable, I'll buy it in black, white, gray, other
gray, maybe a dark brown like I love tea Public's heather colors, like
you know, their heather blue, their heather gray. You know, it's
solid enough, but it has just enough variation that it doesn't look boring.
I generally go for boring is. I don't like wearing things that are too
tight. I don't like wearing logos on things because it's rather presemptious that I
have some kind of personality. I don't. I generally just find an Oxford
shirt and some Chino's and buy them in three different colors and like, now
do me for the office pub I would just say this right now if they
do. If I used to work at a liquor store and one of the
things that like that salespeople would love to do was hand us, like you
know, free T shirts with every lick you know logo. If a T
shirt is involved, I will wear your logo. I will say, like
for the first like most of my teenage years, the nightclubs are still going,
and we used to get a load of free boo Booze stuff. Pretty
much every photo of me from the age of fifteen to about twenty five,
I'm wearing some kind of Booze sponsored material. Yeah. My favorite shirt,
weirdly is my Caverns and Creatures T shirt is an older one from Tea Public,
and I think they switched T shirt vendors because this thing is super soft,
and they they aren't quite like that anymore. But but also I helped
Bob with his one of his original logos, so that's true. I actually
made the logo see. I like what I when I found that perfect soft
T shirts because nothing's like if I order T shirt online, I always I'm
always afraid because by the time it shows up, I'm afraid it's gonna be
like that thick canvas like T shirt material that never fits. It's hot,
it doesn't stretch, you know. I want I want the softest I I
just as I get it was yes, but I want the softest shirt possible.
I want to feel like I'm just wearing like a hug. So yeah,
I used to. I used to have a small imprinting business. That
was the thing, like you know, like there were there were a few
shirts were like uh like from vendors that I would I would buy for like
imprinting on but they were just such nice T shirts that I would just be
like, I'm just kind of stuff a bunch of these away from me for
later walking out with his free iPad and a T shirt, I still the
T shirts combs up with red T shirt printed the target logo and it walked
out with a stack of iPad, I committed, Penny Martine, Only God
for was this free iPad? Do they still have T shirt? What are
they called guns or cannons that they at sporting events, or the yeah,
a T shirt gun like the compressed air that shoots the tube of T shirt
at people. I think they do. It seems like a bad idea.
It seems like an amazing idea. Like I still want to shoot somebody with
one of those things. It'd be great. They had a version where you
could shoot the T shirt onto someone, so that just wear. Well,
that was with that Simpsons episode whre he had the makeup shotgun. You got
to compressed air gun, like did you have that over in England's American Gladiators?
Did you have like British gladiators. I don't know if you know,
we just had gladiators. It's another fingers stole office. I think you guys
will first with but when they whenever the Americans would have that one the obstacle
cort, so they're shooting the tennis balls at the players at one hundred miles
an hour. God, I want to shoot somebody with that tennis ball gun
so badly. So we didn't have guns in our You can't have fun without
guns, you though, guys, Well, they just give you like the
big foam stick like here, like a Bobby like he beat them with this
Mela comeback, like Gladia is used to tick? Have you speaking of Gladiat
have you've seen the trailer for Gladiator too? I am uh never been less
excited for a movie does have a fucking rap soundtrack or something? Yes,
it does. It just he was like, it just looks bad. It
just looks like a bad, dumb movie. I'm hearing of this. Yeah,
how can they have Gladiators again without the steroids in the you know,
the repressed homosexuality and the that's what we're tuning for, right, Well,
it's apparently remember the little kid from the first one, you know, the
like Lucia's like, well the young boy that was like yeah, sure,
and now he's Glady for some reason. So yeah, why it doesn't need
a connection to the first one. But it does. But it does,
and for some reason, and for some reason, Denzel Washington in it,
and and so some reason, patro Pascal is like some knockoff Russell Crowe character
who's fighting gliders. I don't know why. The trailer just looks dumb.
We're just making good movies at some point, or at least good mainstream movies.
They all look shit now yeah. Yeah, wait, we're not going
to talk about Twister, Twisters, Twister too, Twister two. Bevin,
it is it made almost eighty million dollars this weekend. It is like apparently
it's catching all like wildfire. We need to watch them Twister too, buddy,
people fucking baffle me. They really did. Yeah, I got no
work. Yeah, so we're gonna We're gonna add the movies Twister two when
that time comes it comes to rental, right, oh yeah, yeah,
we have no choice. It seems like enough people have already ironically watched this
if. I don't know if we need to add today. No, Bevin
needs to see it because it's like again he's got that line. I'm going
five. I'll watched that with you. Ah, what a while at the
movies, Bob hates this this movie editions that has been the basis for a
lot of the movies we've paid any other questions. Let's see here, Zacophone
Trades asks, what's the struggle you had in the eternal conflict between being an
artist and being a craftsman? I wanted to release a perfect story versus having
a story that's good enough. I don't know. I think you're confusing the
elements of art and craft. There, I can go to an art gallery
without really understanding art or studying art and appreciate the craftsmanship. I don't know
how that applies to writing. I suppose that's idea versus execution. Maybe I
suppose like all the editing and making towards format correctly and translates correctly is more
to craft of it. But I don't know. I think the literary charisma,
I don't know if that's ah. I think that's still I think it's
a situation where like a lot of my friends my books will say you've gotten
a lot better over the years, and I take it as a compliment but
also kind hurts my feeling at the same time. So but so you endeavor
to get better, but you're always learning. And if I could go back
and rewrite everything, I could like, oh man, I could totally make
this better than what I did before. You know, if you self published,
you're allowed to go back and re edit your ship. Oh no,
you can, but there's a certain point where you have to just like you
know, like fixing edits or maybe a typo or a slight mistake is that's
sure, But I'm saying like, I could restructure this in a way to
tell a better story, and that's not what I want to do. You
kind of like you can't, George Lucas, your own work. You have
to look back on it and say I'm learning from this and getting better and
so totally. Yeah, George Lucas, George, Yeah, that's but that's
my point. Now, it's now. It's now. It's a description like
no one appreciate no one. No one asked for this or thanked him for
this. You know, yes, we love that. You know, Gredo
shot first, and the wamp was there for no reason, and and you
know, random things no one, no one asked for that. That's just
someone going back fucking round with their own work and then saying tough, I
own it. You got to deal with it. He made a ship load
of money up, Yeah, well it was that. It was the downward
slope of Style Wars. If I can make a shot like really to Meet
the Devil Part two, to read it again, you know, no,
Honestly, if somebody's going to pay me enough, I'll craft the ship out
of stuff I've already release. But I guess that's not art. I think
I suppose art is coming up with the idea and coming up with the vibe
and coming up with the voice. I suppose you can figure about. Craft
is going back and chipping off all the rough edges. I suppose you've got
to do both, an't you sweet? Are we saying that craft? I
mean that art is like the highbrow idea level, and then craft is the
grunt work. Yeah, well, I wouldn't say high brow. I think
h is the kind of airy fairy vision you have that nobody else has,
and it's you, baby. Craft is actually making it work, and that's
where the fucking sweat comes in. Well, the rubber meets the road sort
of, you know. I mean, yeah, there are times when I'm
writing certain chapters, I'm like, I know I could do this better,
but I really need to, like, I'll fix it in post. So
I gotta go because I gotta get this thing done, because if I can
hem and Hallover's every sentence and every word, and some writers do do that,
but I don't because I'd go mad if I do that. I will
I will say this, I purposely do not do not like you know,
just give myself fake launch dates for for books because my goal is I don't
release a book until I'm happy with it. Does that mean it's perfect?
No, that means I've looked at it and I've said this makes me happy,
and now I think about it. I think craft is the stuff that
people get paid for regularly and reliably, and art is the stuff you don't.
Then I have a lot of art books unless unless you're like one of
those top zero one percenters who you know, everything they put out is makes
megabus And then can you make money on your art? Oh, you're marketing,
you're editing, your analyzing the trends and following it. There are people
who have actual jobs. They do that. I guess what's least after you've
done all that is? And I don't see too many of them nowadays because
I'm not in as many forums, and I like to think that, like
over the years most of them have just gone insane and thrown themselves in front
of buses. But there used to be a whole lot of like, you
know, uh, like authors joining the self like publishing thing, who like
who their whole thing was. I'm putting out work that's too complex for today's
audiences that pretty much won't be appreciated until after I'm dead, and it's just
like, yeah, good luck with that. How I feel every time I
read a shingles. Hey, that's the difference between arts and craft. In
the a nuclear winter, the only thing that survives are cockroaches and shingles,
manuscripts, true art. When the cockroaches gained sentience, they use they use
shingles as their guide, guidelines to gree that's this is this is their new
this is their building blocker society. According to the historical documents. This is
how you know, the hookers and the alley and the ghost and the jizz
and the Gary. Yeah. Yeah, aliens come down in the already historical
I can's they fight is a big stack of radioactive shingles. But they just
recreate humanity from that with one hundred accuracy. Where where where are we going
to eat tonight? Hello titty? Every restaurant Hello titty, except for the
one that's titty titty bang bang. So yeah, but no read he goes
to that one. All right, I think that we've we've gone to in
the apocalypse. I think we've got time for one more. I think so
too. You're gonna make me fine one more. We could just leave on
everything's dead but shinkles. All right, here's here's this one will circle us
back around to where we started. Zack of all Trades wants to know I'm
not answering the same question a third time. Yes, you can and you
will. Zack of all Trades asked, what is your favorite burger place?
Son of a bitch? We we did an episode on five guys, like
a bazillion years ago. Yeah, I saw your father's the episode. Everybody
likes five guys in their mouth. That's the conclusion we came to pretty much.
Uh ship famous God, oh God really dries me out? Man.
We've had this argument before. Let's not re an argument. It's my favorite
burger place. Change my mind. I seem to recall it being an argument
at the time. Might have been drunk. Why is he wrong? Why
is he wrong? Steve? Uh Burg burger can just dries me out?
Is something about it? It's just it absorbs all the moisture out of like
sexually, what are we talking about. I'm not fucking the burger. If
I was, it'd be the same result. McDonald's as well. I don't
know's I prefer something that is a little bit more freshly made. That's why
I gave five guys some credit. But no, the best burger I ever
had was in this weird go cutting place in Corby. It's a fucking fantastic
burger. But they're closed now, so I guess I just have to go
through my rest of my life in misery. Yeah, I find I find
the best burgers are are in those weird places, because like place like five
guys smash burgers, they're fine, but their burgers tend to like, I
don't know, I find them to be kind of dry, bland. Whereas,
yeah, you go into a hole in the wall place where it's some
like you know, some sweaty guy behind like you know, a grill who's
like you know who's handling the meat even though you know you and wash his
hands and lit. You know, in three days, but you know that
burger is gonna be good. You know what the secret is? It's people
who burgers not their primary source of food, and it's after one am.
I used to come out of a nightclub and go to a kebab shop.
I'd be like, give me that triple deck of burger, you dude.
It feels wet. God, I hate I hate to say, but I
agree because the best pizza I've ever had down at the shore, there was
this deli and they would do pizza. They would just make pizza once a
month for I have no idea, whatever the fuck reason. But god damn
if they're pizza, wasn't the best pizza I've ever had? The best burgers,
Like I of you got a good burger from a good restaurant or like
that, like and actually tasty burger. There's like chain places tend out to
have it. But if I have to go chain fud Wreckers, I like
a good fud Ruckers burger might be done. Have fud Wreckers I've here.
Yeah, that's that's like a deluxe burger experience because there's like it is because
they build they build it. Because again I get this might be blasphemy,
but burgers by themselves are just kind of boring. It's the toppings, and
it's the cheese, and it's all the other things. Like I guess you
can call the entire sandwich of burger, but you think burger, you think
beef, So it's like a slab of meat. Great, but it's it's
all the topics of Floodwreckers you build this colossal thing that is exactly the way
you want it, and it's it's always good, and it's you want to
I want to get bison this time, or ostrich meat or whatever. You
can get different types of meat. And yeah, flood Rockers. Also,
when I started digging my wife, it was our first date. We after
re reconnected after all those years. Dangerous species are on the menu tonight.
Oh god, koala you get your secret flood Ruckers fifteen year patron club and
they're like, okay, Tonight's specialty is child back when when I got married
to my wife, we went to the courthouse or whatever we had to do,
and uh, you know, built out the paperwork and then said all
right, come back in an hour. In the meantime, we went to
Burger King, had our burgers stuff, and then came back and uh,
you know, signed whatever we need to sign. I said, so are
we married now? And they said, technically you were married an hour ago,
and so our first nuptial meal was Burger King. That's nice, see
Steve, And now you're trying to shut on his memory memory where you're talking
about fucking whoppers. Well, he's got to consummate the marriage right later.
Now I'm all dried out thanks to thanks to Burger King, I can't consummate.
Take us home then, yeah bye, Yeah. I think that's enough
of batchery questions for one day. I'm gonna go put my dick in a
burger See you, right, guys. Bye bye, everybody, Let's go
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