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Hey, buddy, it is Tuesday. Whoa it is Tuesday, October eighteenth,

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twenty eleven, and you were listening
to the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm

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Ryan Davis joining me today clipping stuff
on mister Vinnie Carroll Number one clip on

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how's your pop screen? Have you
addressed your issues my hands? I had

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to scrape stuff with a hand.
Pop screens got all switched around and they

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were unknown particles on my pop screen. And I just saw Contagion last weekend?

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So what do you think of that? It was great. It's it's

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a very subtle disaster movie. Yeah. I like the way it moves.

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It was it was less about the
disaster and how normal people would have to

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kind of do their job and deal
with shit. I just I really enjoyed

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how Gwyneth Paltrow looked awful, Yeah, in any of her scenes. I

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enjoyed Larry Frish barnshe he looked pretty
bad. Yeah. But also it's just

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like it was like not a lot
of yelling and running around with heads on

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fire. It was more of like, fucking, how do you do your

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job when the world's exploding? Like, I don't know, your job is

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to keep the world from exploding.
Yeah, and like you know, there's

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just guys and real monotone voices being
like you know, you're gonna have to

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go to court for this and be
like yeah. And it was like in

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like six months and it's like okay, and that's the end of that.

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It's like very much grounded, I
thought, in good procedural. Yeah,

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it's like it's like Outbreak but without
all of the bombasts. Yeah exactly.

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I kind of enjoy that. And
again it was like every good horror movie,

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we are the real monsters. Oh. Also soundtracked by the guy who

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did the score for Drive, which
if you know that, it makes a

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lot of sense. Patrick Kleppik is
here. Hey, how's it going,

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sir? All right? How goes
Horror month? For you? Speaking good?

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Speaking of films? Our movie podcast
paranol Activity three comes out this week,

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which I'm pretty ampt about. It's
gotten very good reviews. Does so

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I still need to Yeah they've been
doing haven't been reading very much, but

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yeah, better than the second one, and the second one's pretty good.

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I still need to see the second
one. Anything else weird in the that

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you've watched thus far? Trying to
think nothing too watched the Thirst, which

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is the that Korean director who did
Old Boy and the Devil. I saw

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The Devil. That one's really good. I Saw the Devil is like a

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revenge fantasy, but then you think
you know where it's gonna go, and

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then they fucking dude over and then
they fuck another dude over. It looks

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it looks good. I also love
The post Yard for that. It's really

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good and intense. Jeff Gershman is
here. Hello, how's how it goes

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your skylanding? It's great land in
the sky. I put the I put

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the monsters on the power base,
and then they're in my video game.

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That's that's my horror story. Physical
things, physical things into video games and

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vice versa. And I don't really
know what's what anymore. It's kind of

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been over here, kind of frightening. And also I watched part of Bad

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Boys too. How do you month? Yeah? How do you watch part

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of Bad Boys too? I know
that movie is three hours long? Yeah,

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yeah, I watched the second ending. Oh oh yeah yeah. Yeah.

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We were talking, Yeah, we're
talking about it, and I was

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like, yes, I just put
it onto my computer for for you know,

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that sort of digital use. And
I was like, I'm just gonna

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fire this up while I do something
else. And then I found myself watching

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the end of Bad Boys too.
That movie ends. Yeah, and then

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it's like, like, what if
we had another hour here where? What

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do you guys think about? Let's
go It's it's only like two ten to

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twenty. No, it's not.
It's not long enough. Can you imagine

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like a ninety minute My Bay movie? Can you would fathom? Like I

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was just thinking about that, every
single one of his movies is like almost

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three hours long. It would just
be split screen the whole time. That

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have to be two things happening and
once at all times to fit in all

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of that award winning amazing story.
Have any of you guys seen the third

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Transformers movie? Talk to you about
it about how I thought it was maybe

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the most terrible movie of our lifetime. It's, uh, it's it's insane,

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Like how like it gets to a
point where it's like, okay,

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everything's going on in Chicago, Let's
go to Chicago, and it's like an

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hour action scene. It's just like
one hour that's just like like after just

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like fucking robots and buildings following over
and explosions and like characters are being introduced

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and then killed over the course of
this one like hour long action scene,

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and then the movie just fucking ends. It's like killed the bad guys autobots

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one credits, just like like no
wrap up or anything. It's just like

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and that's the end. That's where
we decided to like we just I had

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to stop the movie. It's not
like it ended, it's just yeah,

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this is that's much more. It's
like two hours and forty minutes. Yeah,

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okay, that's probably a good place
to stop. Sure, I can

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render some more robots. So what
did you actually think of it? Did

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you enjoy it? I enjoyed the
part where so uh Leondard Nimoy voices one

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of the the robots, Sentinel,
and he's straight up says the spock line

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needs of the many outwagh the needs
of the few at one point. That's

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how that movie is. It's dumb. It's so dumb. Also blatantly racist.

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I had Asian character paying for community, but not not as Yeah,

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so Opening Night Baby, I'm ax
and three D not as not as blatantly

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racist as the second one. Yea, the second one. Yeah, the

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twins. The twins were way way, way worse. Although the thing that

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kept throwing me off was hair on
robots. Yeah, a bunch of the

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Smart Doctor robots Like it's like like
like bioluminescent hair. Also the clo he's

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balding, Like he doesn't have hair
on the top of his head. It's

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just like wrap around to let you
know that, Oh he is a older,

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more distinguished what robots and then Sentinel, the Leonard Demoy character has a

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fucking robot mustache. There's just there's
one in the one that has a cane.

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Yeah, and then why does Megatron
have a cloak? Like but it

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did make him look kind of cool. Yeah. So I had missed two

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and I thought one was like fairly. I was like, Okay, it's

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kind of dumb, but it's an
action movie. It's kind of taking itself

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at least a bit. Seriously.
I don't know what happened in two,

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but three is like a vaudeville act
like three and I'll tell you this.

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Three reigns it in some from two
like the stuff in two. Oh my

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gosh, is three has like little
cybal kicks like two is like an atrocity

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two has well, Two has like
extended bits with the parents like way more

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with the parents like hens like Pott
Brownie's on a college campus, and then

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the parents just go off for twenty
minutes being high. Yeah wait, what's

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what And then they go to Paris
and then you like are following them in

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Paris being like bad racist Americans in
Paris. So it's like meet the Fokkers

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in like it's a movie, a
movie within a movie. Yeah, it's

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this whole other movie that's happen run
into Ben Stiller and then there's like this

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comedist comedy mishappen, like oh no, and then somehow they like show up

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at the climactic battle at the end, like they get like off camera,

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they get kidnapped, and then just
at one point a robot like drives up

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to the fight and just dumps them
out. In Egypt, yeah, in

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eachy front of the Pyramids with the
giant transform with two balls that are clinging.

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But I feel like in three it's
like optimist prime heads are kind of

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funny eating the pot Brownie and goes
out of the trip and that whole movie

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was terrible, Like there's so many
dumb jokes in it and like plays for

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comedy and like bits but that's that's
Michael Bay. Michael Bay can't resist really

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awful, and no one will tell
him no because his movies makes so much

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money. But then all the trip, all the fights. But you think

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some level, like you know,
the general movie going public like totally wants

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that. I can't imagine that the
election wasn't that great. It was look

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at much money. That movie made
a billion dollars? Why because there's robots.

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I don't give in disguise at one
point? You know what I do

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like that they're in terrible disguise.
If they are the worst suise, I

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will say this, they actually three
uses the like in disguise thing better than

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either of the first two. Like
there are actually moments where it's like,

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oh shit, that's a robot where
it had not been led on. That's

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they shouldn't just name the movie.
I've summed up everything that's awesome about all

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the Transformers with one sentence. And
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as much as I don't care for
the like movie designs of the Transformers,

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I like the sounds they make.
Whoever did the sound design for for like

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their lasers and when they transform,
I like that stuff just was digital on

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me and Bumblebee parsing together like movie
clips to talk and see you see this?

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This is why I saw an opening
night in imax and three D,

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because if I'm going to see a
movie this dumb, I'm gonna see it

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the dumbest way possible. D box
would have been the only improvement that I

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could have done, and they didn't, and they didn't. It didn't come

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out in the box, and so
and when it so when you see that,

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when you see that movie and I'm
actually three D, the opening shot

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basically of that film is whatever the
new model, the Megan Fox replacement.

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You know, she's walking up the
stairs and her ass is just in front

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of the camera and it's all in
three D. The first shot in the

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goddamn movie is this model just swishing
her ass around in three D. And

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I just like, like wearing like
a dress shirt over like panties, so

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it's just like a little bit of
butt is kind of peaking. It's not

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even like subtle three D. It's
like popping out at your eyes three D.

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And the whole audiences what it likes. The whole audience just looks around

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at each other like we're all seeing
her Butt's gonna transform shits a robot.

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That's the porn versions Root and Brent
Shoemaker is ever seen Transformers. I stopped

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after the first one. That's why
I elected. Yeah, you and I

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saw the first one. That was
my last experience I made. I'm in

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an effort to not see any of
them ever, because I thought they all

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looked real, real, terrible,
And then by the time they came out

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on like HBO or something, I
ended up in bits and pieces from having

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people around me watching them because I
am around idiots a lot of the time.

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I saw the first one and the
second one that way, then you

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just you just have to see a
third one. Story I told no interest

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the third one. The story,
Yeah, I don't even it's like nonsensical.

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It might as well not even be
there. Actually, it makes way

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more sense than the second one.
I guess I should watch the second one.

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The second a script. Just make
Tron turn into a gun in this

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one. I'm not gonna see.
Yeah, yeah, You're not gonna see

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it as far as I'm concerned.
There is one Transformers movie, and it

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came out in nineteen me a space
gun people, No, No, he's

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a fucking pistol luger, yeah,
Walter, Yeah, with a weird stock

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extender on and a scope, so
all cool pistols wouldn't fix those. And

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then he turned into a gun,
and wouldn't that would be the thing that

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would be like, oh these,
wouldn't that be over the top in a

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way better way if all of a
sudden he's turned into a giant like World

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War two era pist into a person's
size pistol, and him and another robot

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scream shooting. Right, that's that's
who fires. There is a there is

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uh, there's sound waves. I
don't have sound waves in two. I

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can't remember it. Do you have
a fake sound waven this he's terrible as

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they like iPod or something. No, he doesn't do anything. He makes

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like waves, shock waves. How
is the sound wave if he has a

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vehicle. I think it's sound wave
because they Yeah, this is bullshit.

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Because he has the little he has
the cassette. He still has like laser

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beak and yeah, and Laserbeak disguises. Actually, Laserbeak's disguises are probably the

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probably the most significant, like a
plasma TV or something. I don't know.

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But there's all the weirdest part was
not sound Wave. The dude who

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guards Cybertron the telepart of the shot
shot shock Wave shock Wave. Yeah,

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he's in it, and he's giant
worm. You know, he's ridding around

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on the giant worm. He can
turn into a space pistol. Yeah,

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okay, that's the only way you
know it's supposed to be because people say

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shock wave and then like a worm
comes out of the ground. You're not

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You're not totally in the wrong for
thinking that those were the same thing.

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But yeah, Disney launched the giant
worms. He's hanging out on it or

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something. I don't know. I
can't I can't believe the Headlinard Nimoy spouting

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star Trek lines when he has history
as another Transformers character, Well, why

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don't they draw you know, it's
the rich legacy, the whole thing.

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The whole thing is you're getting caught
up like the your incredulity, your incredulity

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is being misplaced because it's it's the
whole thing. It's not these minor shis.

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If you want, if you want
a dumb movie, imagine like how

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much dumber it could have been if
they had been totally faithful to original series

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Generation one Transformers, but it had
been this big budget live action movie.

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But where he was turning into a
giant pistol and shooting stuff, I could

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go for that. Probably probably just
lean into just the stupidity inherent to the

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premise Primes trailer go. When he
trans he does, he does have the

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trailer in the beginning, it becomes
like a charging stations like it's like it's

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his weapon cash like he it transforms
and turns his platform and he like runs

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up to it and grabs like like
axe or something, his his melee weapons.

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So the cartoon, it seems like, takes itself way more seriously than

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Yes, cartoon is pretty optimist,
is not joking around. He doesn't crack

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wise, he's a rust ghost or
something. It's fucked up, what's happened?

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And so yeah, it's weird to
watch this movie, this big budget

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movie be like Slapstick. The whole
thing is like one big bad comedy act.

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Like I don't well, it's I
think it swings hard. Like then

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it's like, look at the destruction
of Chicago and how serious this is and

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I'm gonna fight and no, we
don't want you to die like it.

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Yeah, and then actually Michael Bay
knows nothing about consistency of tone. He's

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just like, all right, now
it's funny, all right, now it's

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sexy. And I can never find
there's problem with the first one. Three

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I can't follow the robots when they
fight, like it's just gotten better at

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it. But you're right, it's
just they really started like coloring them more

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because the first one just like gray
versus gray, and then and shot up

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way too close for you to tell
one robot and the shaky cam. They

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move it back a little bit.
They don't use the shake cam as much,

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and they use slow mo like nuts. It's a lot of slow mopping

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robots, and like the Red Shirt
robots, Like I don't know where all

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these like the septicons are coming from, Like what Cybertron? What the cyber

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space bridge? Gotta get the energy
on space bar the space bridge, I

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don't know. There were there were
no Red Shirts in the cartoon, and

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they got a high jack to drive
the car. Nobody ever done the space

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bridge to bring the energy on to
Cybertron. So they do mention energon I

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think in the movie, but they
never show the cubes. That's all I

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loading cubes into sound wave about the
matrix of leadership really yeah really yeah?

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But not well that's in two right, Remember that we see Transformer Heaven.

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Remember how not even goes to Transformer
Heaven and it's told by like the transform

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Elder gods to go back. Really
yeah, you really need to see if

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you think if you are this angry
about three, really need to see two

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Transformer Heaven Transformer Elder Gods like for
how much? For how much worse?

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It like you'll come back and say, yeah, they cleaned it up.

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You'll be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, made some some

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notab because you're you're you're missing the
dip into You're going from one really second

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act and being like why I don't
why would they go this direction after the

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first one? I remember like tearing
up and the movie when the Matrix of

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Leadership has passed Loan when prime is
given it to seven, I would cry,

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Right now, do you put that
loaded up on YouTube because you saw

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when you were seven? Yeah?
Well I think if a kid saw this

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and when he was seven, he
would probably vomit. Yeah, gonna say,

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do you think our seven year old
kids totally into New Transformers? Yeah?

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You think billion dollars. You know
what didn't come from Kids are into

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whatever you're put in front of them. SCOTL Skylanders, don't. I don't

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know any better. I'm into Skylanders. Shelby was saying his daughter's like into

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Spiro, yeah, which is like
a crate reticulous concept of like, wait

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a minute, there are people that
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there's no I think I'm telling them. When I signed it for the website

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so that I could use my Skylanders
in a bunch of really bad flash mini

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games. The email it's sent said
that your child has signed up for an

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account on this website, because it
didn't ask for your email, asking your

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parents email, which I thought about
my mom's email dress in there. But

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she probably would have been really confused. Probably she would have said no,

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yeah, exactly, no, no
you are too old. She would just

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say this is not age appropriate for
ye. What we need to talk.

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Go look at some pornography I've sent
you playing put trigger Happy onto the Power,

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the Portal of power. I need
to get a chop chop, that's

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right, where does that chop chops? I almost ordered a chop chop,

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uh, but I would have had
to order the separate one because the adventure

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packs are not are not sold via
Amazon Prime, and I couldn't. That

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means I couldn't have it tomorrow.
If you can't have it tomorrow, it

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does not matter, right, limited
time man, before the Skylanders craze passes.

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Okay, yeah, let's do that, all right, they'll have that.

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Okay, pick me up, pick
me up? Serious? Yeah,

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And if we're gonna do video of
this, I want to. I'm gonna

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turn into it and we're gonna produce
the best dumbest coverage that we can produce.

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Jeff explain Skylanders all right, So
Cooks at Home through the eighties through

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uh, you know, for generations, people have used toys and cartoons and

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and yeah, like like as a
means to sell products, you know,

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Transformers the cartoon. Like. The
argument glad about it was that it was

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little more than an ad for the
toys. I disagree because there were such

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heavy stories in there, but they
were also highly effective. They were highly

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effective advertising, So it wasn't even
deeper than that. Remember that, remember

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that Captain Power stuff where you could
actually shoot at the TV show. Yeah,

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yeah, you bought the toys to
shoot it. At your TV,

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Jeff and I have watched No,
no, no, that's the laser tag.

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Captain Power was the video tapes.
Yeah, it was video taps.

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There was also a daily show,
but they only made like eight episodes or

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something like that. There were these
like crazy glowing red and white spots on

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the enemies and you actually shoot at
them, and then and the gun with

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the ship, which was a gun, would keep score. You would have

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to look away from the TV with
the pistol or the space ship when bad

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things were on screen that we're shooting
at you and have to go back time

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crisis. But it was just using
like you know, like zapper gun just

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like yeah, so you'd record it
and you'd pause the tape on the thing

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you're supposed to shoot and just pull
a trigger and over every order again until

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you win. But if you ran
out of points, if you got hit

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too much, the dude would eject
like there's like a motor in there,

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who'd pop out of the spaceship.
It was awesome, fucking awesome and also

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end. Yeah, and the Captain
Power. The production on the on the

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show itself, lots of lots of
uh like crazy proto cg on there well

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it's that and also some very primitive
like blue screen stuff like real not green

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screen, definitely blue. That stuff
we were watching yesterday, the Nightmare,

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the clips you were sending me of
that. Similar, oh great, similar

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level of bad. Great. I
need to have some UK friends and and

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some time your series series over there, not seasons gets straight so Skyland.

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So it brings us to Skylanders,
which is kind of the latest twist in

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this whole, like nefarious, like
you get this, and then you need

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to get these, then you need
to get this. So what it is

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is you go by the starter pack
and you will gets seventy bucks available on

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all platforms and even its a PC
version even yeah and Mac yeah yeah,

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yea, well no the game oh
crazy, so you waste. Yeah,

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they sell a package that says that's
called PC slash Mac. That's insane out

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there. That's so you get the
power the Portal of Power, which is

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this USB cable that leads to this
this little base that you can put your

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dudes on close and it glows when
you plug it in. So that's great.

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Color cycles, yes, color cycle, that's great. You get three

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dudes, you get Spiro, trigger
Happy and gild something the fish guy with

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a spirit. Yeah, get murlock
looking dude. Uh. And so the

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idea is that you're playing if you
get the same three and if three,

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so there's he's a fire type,
magic magic, Spiro is a magic type,

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trigger happy, he's a tech,
and the other guy's water type,

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and that there's already a strong Pokemon. Yeah, they're like they're like eight

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types. They're thirty two different figures, but you only get the three.

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And basically you take these figures they
must have R F I D chips or

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something like that in there, and
you place them on the base and then

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they are in your game and instantly, instantly, I mean there's an animation

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that takes place. It's not like
totally instantly. But and it's also a

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unique idea. Yes, it is
a unique idea because you're getting gear for

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your dudes. You're collecting hats that
will let you crip better. So this

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is now Jeff's Spiro every time exactly. Yeah. Yeah, So it has

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ownership, like it says you own
this. You can give it a nickname

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if you like, honey, make
sure that you write your name and your

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phone number on the bottom of it. Yes, basically, so you can

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take your dude off and put another
guy on at any time. So they

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build puzzles in this kind of in
this game based around you need to have

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a tech guy right here to open
this gate, and that's the puzzle.

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It's there's a tech logo on the
gate and it says you need to have

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a tech guy on the gate.
Right if you lose that toy your bone,

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Well, no, no, you're
buying another one. Yeah, more

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of the point. You don't have
one to begin with, right, what

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do you mean, Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah, so I do have

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a tech guy. But yes,
there are eight types or something like that

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across all of them, so you're
not gonna have all of them. You're

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not gonna be able to see the
entire game right out of the gate.

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And you know, the different characters
have different abilities. So Spiro and shoot

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fire and does like a fire charge. Trigger Happy has guns and he also

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throw golden safes that appear out of
nowhere, like I don't know what's happy.

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And then the other guy has like
a water cannon that is like Mario

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Sunshine style, and also a harpoon
like a spear gun. And then since

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he's a water guy, he can
cross water so you'll find water, you

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can swim across it to get to
the treasure chest on the other side more

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hats. You can kind of see
where this goes because they have thirty two

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different dudes and across eight types.
So so if I was going to buy

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a dude on his own at the
store, yeah, what's that caught?

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Like, what's the So the pricing
seems to be somewhere between eight and ten

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dollars per dude. But they also
have produced three packs that are three packs

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for twenty Okay, so you can
get chop Chop, which we encountered.

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So we found a gear that only
Chop Chop can wear. It's not even

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like class specific. It is dude
specific specific. Dude Pacific, which is

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my new beach broadcast show that I'm
working on, Stabut and next four.

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We're gonna take take some time with
this one. Yes, So when you

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find the chop Chop gear, it's
like, hey, do you want to

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watch a little video of chop Chop
And they produced movies for this. Chop

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Chop just run around of the swoord
just effing guys up, and you're like,

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that guy looks awesome. We gotta
go buy that I need some chop

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chop mom. So if that's if
that's locked in, if that's hard coded,

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which I assume it is, everybody's
gonna encounter chop chop first. There's

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gonna be a run on chop chop. So we need to buy. So

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we need to get all the chop, yes, before people realize, oh

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shit, ain't it chop chop to
get in here. Oh god, it's

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gonna be a terrible But so,
okay, so you've got three yeah,

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you'd say there's eight types. Yes, so you need to see everything in

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the game you're gonna regarding disregarding the
gear thing, like the character specific gear.

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You need to buy five more of
these dudes, at least at least

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to see like the different areas or
whatever. Yeah. So like another like

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four's not necessarily full on areas though, Like when when when they have these

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gates that you can only open if
you're a specific dude. It's just there's

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some treasure, some coins or something
over there. It's not like, oh,

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here's a whole level that only this
guy can partake in, but by

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worlds, right. Yeah, So
the one thing I have bought so far

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because I need to see how this
works is they are selling something that is

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like the Pirate pack. It's like
some adventure world and it says, unlock

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a whole new world in your game. It comes with a little fish creature,

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which imagine it's going to be another
water type, which is a bummer

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for us. Uh, this this
Pirate I'm handling it pretty well. So

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this Pirate themed world, which is
a boat. It's a picture of a

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boat on the box. I don't
know what it's going to be. No,

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I mean, like you have to
put on the magic I don't know.

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I don't know it. That was
just the cover of the box.

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I don't I don't know. I
don't know how it's gonna end up.

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I don't know how we get this
into the game. That's why I ordered

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it, because it's just it's you
know, it's sins different code or that

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door, and it's already on the
disc and you've just yeah, imagine it's

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all on the disc because it needs
to be, because it's I mean on

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all these platforms, like not all
of them are going to be internets.

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If you play, like with the
handheld one, it's like these I'm not

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sure three D one and I'm not
so. The figures also come with codes,

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and I imagine that something yeah.
Yeah. Also, and when you're

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playing all the three sixty, you
can generate a web code that is a

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code that I imagine you can enter
on their website to update your dude with

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the bright hat. If you're not
playing on the internet. Hopefully it sinks

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automatically. If you're on the internet. It would be a real bummer if

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you had to exchange these codes around
all the time. But the third thing

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in that pack ghost swords sold ghost
swords. As soon as I read ghost

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words, like yeah, I'll buy
that, that'll be here tomorrow. How

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much was this World Adventure pack?
Twenty twenty bucks? And I think uh

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Will and Norm or Norm was looking
at the like total cost for everything,

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and it would be like four hundred
bucks to get to get it all,

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get all of these sky stuff.
Jeff, you know what you have to

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do. No, I can't do
that. I can't come on it.

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It's like a Star Trek online lifetime
subscription to the Skyline. Alright, let's

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do this. We'll go to Toys
Rest to night. We'll see what's there.

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If they have these three packs,
I'll get them. The one packs

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seem a little sketchy. I actually
have they gave They gave characters away background

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E three well before the game was
out. So I think I have a

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spire. It might just be a
Spiro if we get like a backpack generator

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and we just we basically the three
sixty run in on a battery, get

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this game, bring your portal there, and just put the boxes on top

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of the better idea because yeah you
can. You can hold the figures like

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I don't know, three inches above
it and it'll still read. We get

405
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:36.400
all the gear and then we leave. That might that might work. But

406
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:41.480
what might also work is cloning the
RF ideas. Assuming it's using ideas.

407
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:45.960
I can't magic in there. I
mean I just don't know, Like,

408
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:48.359
yeah, it doesn't pretty much the
two choices. If it's not our if

409
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.000
idea, it's probably magic. So
I mean, I don't know what else

410
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:57.160
broadcasts that passively as a chip from
those things. Very dust works pretty well,

411
00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.599
I don't know, it screams at
it. I mean, I'm just

412
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.079
saying, I literally don't know.
So let's crack open. See it's guy.

413
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.000
Yeah, I do want to yon
as soon as I'm sure that we

414
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:11.160
can do that without breaking it.
We will totally break one, yeah,

415
00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:17.039
and figure out and look at its
insides. Uh. But so what's the

416
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:19.400
actual game. Yeah, there's a
game actually worth playing. It's a kid's

417
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:22.839
game, but like, what what
is it. It's it's sort of a

418
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.880
top down, like fixed camera's perspective, Like you don't have camera control.

419
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:30.119
It's real, real simple. You're
just kind of walking around the world busting

420
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.079
stuff up. Uh. I shot
a bunch of trees and coins came out.

421
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.640
You're fighting any dude. Yeah,
you're finding some dudes, uh,

422
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:38.680
and and doing some jumping. There's
like jump pads that you can bounce on

423
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.039
to get up to hire areas and
stuff. And yeah, you're you're fighting

424
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:48.279
dudes. There's a battle mode so
you can do two player competitive TV.

425
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.319
Yeah, so you can put two
Skylanders on the on the base. The

426
00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:57.039
base like the bottom of it says
power like Portal of Power for Xbox three

427
00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:00.720
sixty like on the sticker on the
bottom is. But yeah, it had

428
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.559
like the all the breakaway cable stuff. But I wonder if that's just they

429
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.720
had to meet Microsoft's requirements. They
had to make one of those and maybe

430
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.400
the rest are all t but then
you also able to plug that into your

431
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:15.559
computer. Yes, and it worked
on that Yes. So for the so

432
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:17.599
I mean there's a PC version of
the game. But also they have a

433
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:23.599
website where you I installed the portal
drivers for my Mac. Great idea.

434
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:27.759
Always it's just all random drivers for
total bullshit. And and when you when

435
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:33.720
the installed process for these drivers finished, it pulled up a date pop the

436
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.920
terminal windows that process completed. Really
elegant stuff. Yeah, it's not going

437
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.119
to freak out enough once that,
Once that process was done, I could

438
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:48.200
totally you know, scan my Skylanders
into these awful flash games without entering the

439
00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.599
code. Instead, you do.
You have two options. You can enter

440
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:52.559
a code or put them on the
base. Of course I was like,

441
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:57.279
ooh, put them on the base. The magic work. And one of

442
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:02.160
the flash games is like a really
badding re Birds clone, like really bad.

443
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.039
It's gotta be weird to be Ted
Price looking at this game being like,

444
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:12.839
yeah, like we what happened dudes? Iron that first game, the

445
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:17.759
first game they made, the first
three Yeah they created and that was bought

446
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.000
by Vivendi. Yeah, when the
crash like all the Crash bandicoot stuff,

447
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:26.759
But this is like the most interesting
thing that has been Spiro related in since

448
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.240
those three games as far as I'm
concerned, Yeah, totally like good or

449
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.240
bad. Like it's at a certain
level, it's a kid's game, so

450
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.279
yeah, like we can talk about
and and like I think about like that's

451
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.960
what guys. The kid's game is
not super engaging to me. Yeah,

452
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.440
but it seems well made for what
it is, and at least from like

453
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:48.319
the business pert perspective of it,
it is like nefarious and awesome. It's

454
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.920
interest. It's totally interesting. Yeah, and I bet kids would be totally

455
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.480
into But the only cash is that
none of these figures actually move or do

456
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:59.200
anything, so they're just we're not
using for the game. You can't.

457
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.440
There's nothing cool you can do with
them. Can you imagine the tears when

458
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.920
your kid takes there because you said
all the gear attaches to a specific thing,

459
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:07.319
Yeah, but you take it to
school, it's lost, it gets

460
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:10.519
stolen, and all of a sudden, that get all your gear is just

461
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:14.839
going Yeah, totally like you're leveling
that dude up and unlocking additional attacks and

462
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:18.920
stuff like this totally gets swiped and
then the options you have when you have

463
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:21.839
it on the base, you can
actually reset it, right, So if

464
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:23.680
you're if you swipe one and used
one. Yeah, if you steal some

465
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:27.079
kids thing and it's got his nickname
and his ownership on it, totally get

466
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:33.440
away scot free. That's terrible.
And being a kid's tough. I think

467
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.119
I think it's weird that they don't
randomize any of that. You can't buy

468
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.440
the starter pack with different people,
so like you and I, if I

469
00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.440
bought it, we have the same
guys. It's not like it just over

470
00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:48.160
Well, I've got a sorcerer type. You know. The early parts of

471
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:51.400
the game are a tutorial like in
Nature, so it makes sense for them

472
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.079
to be able to assume that you
have one of each of those three types.

473
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:59.240
But like, I've got to buy
an expansion pack to open up a

474
00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:03.240
new area. Everybody who, everybody
who is in on this has to buy

475
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.880
something. Yeah, yes, everyone
has ever or like you're the rich kid

476
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.759
and you buy them all and then
you just come over my house that you

477
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:12.920
can't touch mine. I think you
play two player with with Skylanders that are

478
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:17.079
owned by the same person if you
want also, it's not but I want

479
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:21.480
this gear. Yeah, I want
to happen online, right, Uh No,

480
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:23.240
No. Also, all the achievements
on the three sixty version are tied

481
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:27.480
to primary profile only, so you
wouldn't even get points if you went over

482
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.480
to someone else's house and played have
you tried? We should get all right,

483
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.920
I should get one and was trying. What happens if you're plugging two

484
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:38.559
portals the same three sixty? What
happen? It's the only one way to

485
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.319
find out. What if you get
two portals and then you put one portal

486
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.079
onto the other portal? Or what
if you put a portal in the Skylander

487
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:49.000
in range of both portals? Stop
there, there's five USB ports on that

488
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.319
thing. Then a hot, going
hot chick comes out of the computer and

489
00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.359
five that's insane, you're a madman. Spill coke on the portal? Yeah,

490
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.200
and then uh, and then weird
science happens up. I made a

491
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:06.000
dragon, lady, I don't know, and chick turns into a pilot.

492
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:12.480
The answers to Spiro, it's kind
of hot. Just half dragon got tail

493
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:19.720
for days. Well, thank you
for that extension. Skylanders update, Jeff,

494
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.759
I'm glad I could help. I
look. I look forward to hearing

495
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:24.880
more about this, and I can't
wait to get to toys, taking your

496
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:29.759
credit cards away, taking taking all
your cash. I'll lock you up for

497
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:30.559
a week. Now, he's just
gonna have to steal. Now, he's

498
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:37.359
just gonna gona you can't be trusted. It goes way further back and deducting

499
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.759
a service. It's gonna be hanging
out at the school. I got that

500
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:45.720
chop chop. You like that chop
chop? I got level chop much chop

501
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:49.359
chop chop chop. You can be
like on the other side of the channelingk

502
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.680
fins like trying to like fit the
figures through chop chop. But you look

503
00:32:52.720 --> 00:33:00.079
like I got eight. You look
like a kid who knows quality. I

504
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.920
get you chop chop, but give
you one Aquiferians. That's right, just

505
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.880
give them a taste. I'm just
gonna give you this one for free.

506
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:09.200
I like you. You're smart kid. You're smart kids. Just come back

507
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:12.759
to me when you need something or
what if it really is writing back to

508
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:16.759
the figures, like the data so
that you know you could What if you

509
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:21.000
could hack those and just hack all
the gear onto one and just start selling

510
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:27.119
boot legged like level maxed out Skylanders. It's like, yo, man,

511
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.640
this one you put it in the
whole game goes upside down to be even

512
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.200
better, though, if you could
just start manufacturing your own RFID chips and

513
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:38.680
putting them in Bootleg. Actually Spart
Simpson put it on there and then Spiro

514
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:42.400
appears. That's actually what I want
to do is take other action figures,

515
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.960
like take these chips out of these
dudes and put them into other stuff.

516
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:47.400
Oh yeah, I mean not that
it would change what the game did on

517
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.599
I just like Chop Chop, that's
what you're talking about. Take this marital

518
00:33:52.640 --> 00:34:00.640
aid and slap it on the power
base trigger happy chop Chop indeed, or

519
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:02.759
you just you know, take it
down to just the RFIDA or whatever the

520
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:06.279
whatever the chip is that's from that
on there. Yeah, and you're just

521
00:34:06.359 --> 00:34:10.599
carrying around super incognito, slap your
wallet on it. Oh it's a robot.

522
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.239
Oh shit, it's a robot.
Put him into Transformers. Yeah.

523
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:20.760
Yeah, sky's the limit, because
that's what Activation will probably do next if

524
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:22.519
this does well, Sure, that's
actually a great idea. Yeah, Ship,

525
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:29.480
we've also got I contacted mister John
Vigniaki, and uh, it's gonna

526
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.679
send us some of those cars to
iPad Toys. I think Will has those

527
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:35.440
did he did he get him already. I think he bought the wrong ones

528
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:37.880
at first. He didn't eat he
bought. He bought a bunch of cars

529
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:42.599
to toys. Yeah, I just
have all these cars toys. It was

530
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.519
a lot too. Yeah, it
was like like ten or twelve or something,

531
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:47.199
big old pack awesome. But yeah, I think Johnny's gonna send a

532
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.199
couple of those. I'm curious to
see because the kind of this, you

533
00:34:50.199 --> 00:34:53.239
know, similar idea of take a
toy, place it on the iPad screen

534
00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:57.840
screen, so it's like the bottom
of each toy has like a different it's

535
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.800
it doesn't have as much stuff.
It's not like r ida, right,

536
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:05.000
that's a different pattern of conductive.
So it touches the screen in a set

537
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.719
pattern and that's how they dictate.
Yeah, and the app itself is free,

538
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.719
so you're just buying the toys.
But that stuff, I want to

539
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:13.679
see what that looks like, because
that seems like it could be I don't

540
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:17.679
know, more weird kids stuff.
Yeah, I just totally like even if

541
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.679
this is like exploitative, like all
kids toys are always exploitative, Like it's

542
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:28.000
they're always designed to try and goose
you for a little more for fucking you

543
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.880
know, Castle Gray Skull or whatever. I got a thing that might not

544
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:34.760
be exploitative. Why not let me
get my profile on an RFID tag that

545
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.679
I can attach to my keychain and
then let me just scan that in forneverther

546
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:42.360
three sixty so I don't have to
like recover a profile anytime. Yeah,

547
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:44.840
okay, because I love it,
I'll let you do that, all right,

548
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:49.039
I think about it. Who can
I call? Uh? Yeah,

549
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:51.280
that'd be great. I know it
would be great if you could hack the

550
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.639
portal of power to scan my profile. Yeah. Yeah, I should just

551
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.159
get a little bobble ahead of me, and I just don't want to put

552
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:01.079
it. That's what I carry around. Just dig out my babble ahead of

553
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:05.880
me and put an RFID in it. Chop chop, Yeah, exactly.

554
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:10.440
All right, we'll table this Skylanders
discussion. He further Skylanders discussion for next

555
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.079
week once we get to all this
stuff. So yeah, look forward to

556
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:17.320
that part two. I don't want
to have inaccurate information until then. Hey,

557
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:21.280
mister Vinnie Caravella, Hey man,
I've been just working on my RFI

558
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:28.639
D login system. What you've been
playing in? Uh beat Resistance three three?

559
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.880
If you have any question about what
number game you're playing this year,

560
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:35.559
it's probably the third one. For
a second, I thought you had maybe

561
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:37.239
played a game called Beat Resistance,
and I was just say, that sounds

562
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:42.480
like a really kick out third one
Beat Resistance. I can't believe I missed

563
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.280
the first two. Damn it.
It is a good This is a big

564
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:49.480
year for the thirds. So get
with a kill Zone three, System three,

565
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:53.519
Gears of War three three, Uncharted
three, Uncharted three, Batman two

566
00:36:53.679 --> 00:37:01.360
three. Right, I'll take that. That's a two three mast fact three

567
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:05.440
would have been, would have been, would have been, would have should

568
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:12.920
have Elder Scrolls four three? Anyway, beat it. That game is pretty

569
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:16.840
good, except for the parts where
you had really weird, you know,

570
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:21.000
a much different experience with the game
scripting than I did. Yeah, so

571
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:25.719
at least five times five and maybe
not three, and maybe at most five

572
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:32.840
times, Uh, I had to
reload uh checkpoints and saves because the scripting

573
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:36.840
would get hung up and not moved
me on to the next sequence, so

574
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:40.440
so like, and for very obvious
reasons, sometimes sometimes not so obviously,

575
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:45.360
like one time I got done with
this big old firefight, this this diorama

576
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.559
esque sequence, right, like,
oh my God, things are happening.

577
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:52.119
All this crazy stuff is happening.
And then I finished a battle. I'm

578
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:57.320
just hanging hanging out there. Nothing's
happening. I'm talking to Brian, You're

579
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.960
like we beat it, like okay, great, and then Jeff, you're

580
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:06.840
hanging out. They're just standing there. And then Brad is stuck in a

581
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:09.800
car, like clipped halfway through a
car. I was like just just like,

582
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.360
you know, why get out of
a car, Brad. And I'm

583
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:16.119
like, I bet Brad has to
go walk over two feet to go trigger

584
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:20.480
the next sequence. But since Brad
is stuck in the Brad's also girl,

585
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.760
she's stuck in a car, it's
not gonna happen. So I have to

586
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:28.880
reload fight through that hole, you
know, battle again. And then sure

587
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:31.239
enough, after the battle has done, she walks over two feet and it's

588
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:36.079
like let's go, and then it
goes and then it saves the check one.

589
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:38.119
So that happened about four or five
times. Like dude to just be

590
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:43.280
crouched forever and with a nicon over
his head. I'm just walking around him

591
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.800
in the circle. Will be like, I know you're the guy who's gonna

592
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.159
open the door. Just open the
door, you're not gonna open the door.

593
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.679
Finally reload, fight that whole battle
again and he's like, great job

594
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.280
and one that's all of them and
opens the door. How do we go

595
00:38:54.360 --> 00:39:00.480
open the door for you? Sound
like Metal of Honor. Yeah, So

596
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:05.800
like that that happened about that specific
style of the MPC not doing anything probably

597
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.840
happened about three times. And two
times an enemy would clip through a wall

598
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:13.480
and you have to kill all the
enemies and like I had to go hunting

599
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.440
around listening for where the enemy is
in the wall and then use something that

600
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:20.400
had like an area of effect to
kind of blow through a walk a grenade

601
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.599
or something, or they can technically
go through it, yeah, or use

602
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.760
the to pretty much shoot through the
wall and find it. But like hunting

603
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.599
him down by sound like listerally like
see I think he's here, Okay,

604
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.800
I think he's he's like shooting up
through the wall. I do. So

605
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.159
that helps. That helps. So
that that was annoying, But the game

606
00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:43.280
is actually really good. So like
that technical stuff aside, The weapons I

607
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:47.440
thought were fantastic. They have an
upgrade path for weapons where you're actually collecting

608
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:52.920
points as you use the weapon.
So yeah, like ratchet style, so

609
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.400
like, uh, you know,
not coincidentally like ratchet style. So the

610
00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:00.199
great thing is, though, if
you die, all the progress she made

611
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:05.239
on the weapon sticks with you,
so you literally just like you can grind

612
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.639
through it and the upgrades are meaningful. So it's like it's not just these

613
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:13.000
these bullets are more powerful. Yeah, it's like the shotgun goes from like

614
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.039
regular shotgun to like the bullets are
incendiary, So it's like now everything's lighting

615
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:20.920
on fire, and that makes you
want to use every weapon. The weapons

616
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:22.079
are good on their own right,
but it makes you kind of wanted,

617
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.320
like the next upgrade for this sounds
kind of awesome. I'm gonna use this

618
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:30.000
until, you know, until I
get it. So that was really fun.

619
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:35.280
The story is much better than two
because it has basically because there's a

620
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:37.760
story with two. Yeah. Uh, and it kind of more of a

621
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:43.679
sequel to one, or does it
just it's separate kind of like Insomny said,

622
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:45.599
man, we introduced a lot of
mythological elements to our story that we

623
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:51.159
don't really have any way to explain. Or maybe they're leaving open questions so

624
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.199
that when they're done with this franchise
that other developers could come in and answer

625
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:58.639
them for them. But it feels
like a side story, like a really

626
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.679
good side story, like it tends
does carry forward what happened in one in

627
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:07.840
two and you're trying to stop the
camera menace, and but it's very loose

628
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.239
how how it connects, and it's
sort of irrelevant, like you don't have

629
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:14.719
to have played one and two.
You can jump into three and and really

630
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.519
enjoy it. And the new engine
is great, like the lighting and looks

631
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:23.159
pretty amazing. Uh. The but
the story does not feel like it is

632
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:28.719
the end of anything. It answers
no questions, lingering questions about the about

633
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.960
the universe, you kind of,
I mean, in a nutshell the they're

634
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:36.079
they're trying to cool the planet because
the camera like a cold and like you,

635
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:38.719
I liked, everybody likes it at
sixty five under, so like they're

636
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:44.400
trying to drop the thermostat even lower. And to do that they have they're

637
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:49.239
also opening up a wormhole. Uh
you know, I don't know they're bringing

638
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.639
even though like the little journals in
the game insinuate that they've been here,

639
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:58.760
like war the world style for which
is interesting, except it's like hidden away

640
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.840
in a notebook that is option also, so like by the end of the

641
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:05.320
game, you were basically just trying
to kind of you're fighting your way to

642
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:09.039
stop in New York City, this
one thing that's happening there, trying to

643
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:14.559
start global warming. Yeah, yeah, it's right. So basically just buying

644
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.719
a bunch of Aquinette and just kind
of holding them the button for about eight

645
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.960
hours, depending on if you find
everything or not. You're holding down the

646
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:22.360
spray cand for about eight hours.
You play with the move for that.

647
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.800
No, I didn't pull down the
trigger. No spray in my hair.

648
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.320
So like it's it's a cool game. It's really really good. I wish

649
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:34.440
I didn't have those moments that yeah, with those bugs in it, but

650
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:38.599
the game is really weird. Weapons, like the Vomit weapon is probably the

651
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:42.480
best. It's like this goo gun
that you shoot down enemies and then it

652
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:45.760
causes them to vomit and then explode
and you have a The alt attack is

653
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:50.000
like just this giant glob that goes
and sprays in front of enemies, and

654
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.559
it sounds like that's how you kind
of broke some of the scripting, Yeah,

655
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:53.639
because I was I don't know they
could have been because I was like

656
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:57.639
literally it's a big area of effect
attacked. That's like, if you're in

657
00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.760
this clap poison cloud, everybody's just
gonna like start wretching and kind of like

658
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:05.119
blowing up. So I was just
like, I'd see guys and i'd fired

659
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.320
way far before I had triggered,
and he be like, oh my god,

660
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.960
those are the bad guys. And
so I'd walk up and then they'd

661
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:14.480
all be throwing up on the ground, and then the guy I was with

662
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:15.960
wouldn't know what to do, and
you just stand there and they're like,

663
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:22.199
fuck time paradox. You weren't pretty
bad way to blow up though. Yeah,

664
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.360
it was disgusting too. It's just
kind of awesome, Okay, I

665
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:30.639
think I feel better. Oh,
giant sist and then these these giant puss

666
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:32.519
things start growing on them until they
start coming at you, and then you

667
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:36.480
shoot them and they just explode into
another puss cloud. It's really good.

668
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.159
I actually I thought the game was
really good. Yeah. I liked it

669
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:43.920
better than Kill Zone three. Uh, I don't know the direct comparison.

670
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.800
It's just because they're PS three first
person shooters. He didn't you can also,

671
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:51.400
Rico wasn't there. Also, I
made Rico throw up and kicked them

672
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.960
out of Resistance three. Uh No, the characters are all actually pretty good

673
00:43:55.079 --> 00:44:00.400
and they try for a lot of
gravitas and it worked mostly until the crypting

674
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:05.719
would get me and be like video
game crap, video game. So yeah,

675
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.360
I recommend it. Yeah, it's
it's good. You haven't played the

676
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:10.760
first two. I didn't try any
of the multiplayer. I assume it's in

677
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.679
there. You might. You might. Almost sounds like you almost might be

678
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.440
better off if you haven't played the
first time, because those didn't exactly lay

679
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:22.239
like a great foundation, and they
don't really reference that much. It's like

680
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.039
they have like Nathan Hale Memorial cemetery. I think you're right. Yeah,

681
00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:29.440
don't read the Wikipedia like story summaries
for the first two because then you're like,

682
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:30.719
wow, this story is real deeps
Like they don't. They just go

683
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:36.519
surface level the actual story. They
have a previously previously in resistance thing that

684
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.239
is as long as it needs to
be and basically sets it up. It's

685
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:44.559
like this virus entered her atmosphere in
the nineteen hundred chimera taking over. They're

686
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:46.519
fighting their way across the world.
Stop them. That's it. Yeah,

687
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:52.199
Nathan Hale tried to stop them.
It didn't work out. You're the guy

688
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:59.199
you were into without spoiling some major
stuff into the squad member into two and

689
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.119
then you take him over or whatever. They spoil that In that opening thing,

690
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:05.559
they say, here is everything that
happened. Yeah, yeah, but

691
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:07.960
but it's it's it's a pretty good
game. I definitely recommend playing it.

692
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:12.599
And then I tried some rage h
and I guess they patched a bunch of

693
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.280
stuff on the PC. They did
put out one pretty significant patch, yeah,

694
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:21.079
which would expand the PC option beyond
the first that was the there is

695
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.239
a bigger patch because the first thing
was actually a driver update, not a

696
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:25.840
patch to the game. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm talking about Since then

697
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.639
there was an actual patch to the
game itself. So this adds options for

698
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.920
like v sync and and some other
like texture fixes and stuff not in there.

699
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:39.079
Before the hardware level, there were
zero. Their whole philosophy was figured

700
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:44.079
out sixty frames a second or bust, so the engine would actually dynamically like

701
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.119
turn features off as it was playing
to keep the frame right high. So

702
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:52.599
they just didn't offer any like manual
options because it's it's a noble goal.

703
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.519
But at the same time for the
PC for that not for that audience.

704
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.559
Uh so those those things in there, you know, if that's if that's

705
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:04.000
true on the yeah so so an
example, on the p S three version,

706
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:07.559
which is the one I played through, you'll have instances where the resolution

707
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:14.760
drops too barely above high definite seven
twenty P and you'll what happens is like

708
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:16.199
it'll you don't really notice it when
you're playing the game, but if it

709
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:20.639
occurs during a moment where, for
example, you switch to a menu,

710
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.840
all of the text and graphics are
garbled, and then you'll switch out,

711
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:28.280
turn around a bit, and then
the resolution will pop back to where we're

712
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:30.800
supposed to be. And that's that
way. And but that would happen in

713
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.199
just like walking forward like that.
It wasn't like there are eight enemies on

714
00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.559
screen like it was just the game
was in real you know, yeah,

715
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.920
dropping features and resolution gards and maintain
this EXTPM or second which must be also

716
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:45.159
related to you know, how the
texture popping is working. And yeah,

717
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:47.639
so it random times I would just
go to like create an object and it

718
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:51.519
would just be garbled mess that I
had to exit out, wait for the

719
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.440
resolution to switch, and then go
back in so, yeah, it's definitely

720
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:55.800
doing that on the console side,
is I think other people determined to a

721
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.760
very lesser degree that happens on the
Xbox. But yeah, it doesn't drop

722
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:01.880
the solution as much, so you
don't see it. That's kind of interesting

723
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:06.800
though. Well, they you know, they picked one thing that they were

724
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:08.239
going to focus on and nail,
and they did, but they did it

725
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:12.440
at the expense of some other stuff. Sure, you know, kind of

726
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.000
have to. Yeah. So the
only big thing that I ran into on

727
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:19.119
the PC booting it up fresh from
that patch was there was horrible, horrible

728
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.039
tearing, like maybe the worst I've
ever seen. It was pretty bad on

729
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.280
our machine here. Yeah, and
it happened. It didn't happen to fix,

730
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:30.400
but it happened on every move like
it just big band. But I

731
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:34.480
couldn't. I couldn't get it to
save the turn of vsing option on,

732
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.559
and so I had to do some
monking around and go into the graphic drivers

733
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:42.280
for and video and say, okay, add rage to this. Here's a

734
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.039
special case. And I had to
say, like, let rage decide,

735
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:46.760
and I think in my global options
I had let the game decide. And

736
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:51.519
then once I had added that specific
clause into the you know, the logic

737
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:55.480
of the video cards, like the
video card drivers, yeah or something,

738
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.320
and then it would then it would
stay on, and then it fixed it

739
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:00.719
and it was fine. I mean, it's still got a very slight texture

740
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:04.519
popping. I haven't gotten that far
in the game, but it seems to

741
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.599
be working fine now I just play
in Rage. There's there's a there's a

742
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:13.800
bigger patch actually on the way for
the textures right console commands too. I

743
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:16.039
can't remember exactly. All I know
is the Carmack's been out there talking about

744
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:19.079
it, saying, like, you
know, this is basically going to be

745
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:22.119
the best version of the game,
like something. They're I think they're like

746
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:23.559
fixing all the stuff that they know
is wrong. He's been out there saying

747
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:28.000
crazy technical shits. Yeah, so
there's a work you can also get in

748
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.079
there and you can protect shade.
There's also rockets flight maps. See you,

749
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.599
I can say so, Johnny,
you can enable if you if you

750
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:37.159
weren't to really dig in and enable
some or edit some config files, you

751
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.480
can enable the bigger textures. I
don't, I'll let it go even mega

752
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:46.519
megast so there's like the a K
textures and it forces the high risk textures

753
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:51.119
rather than doing the layered If you
go on like the Steam forums, you

754
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:53.840
can find all the launch options.
That makes the billion things. You kind

755
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:55.880
of have to do that if you
want to maintain the achievements, because the

756
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.760
moment you go into the console disables
the achievements. But you can get it

757
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:04.199
to do console commands prior to the
executable running, so that you can maintain

758
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.719
the achievements. That seas right,
yes, yeah, So the biggest thing

759
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:09.920
I'm running into now after the vcing
fix was the one place with the controller

760
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:13.960
or the one place of the mouse
and keyboard, and the vehicle controls on

761
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.719
the on the keyboard are kind of
laime, but the gun play with the

762
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:21.360
mouse is really good. Yeah,
So it's I can kind of have both

763
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:23.159
going at the same time. Trade
off there, ye little trade actually can

764
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:30.320
you actually just like pick up the
controller, but but all the prompts on

765
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:32.559
the screen will be for the control
there, she gets you should get a

766
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:37.239
wheel. I should just get That's
what I was thinking. Just get foot

767
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:38.960
pedals, get a racing wheel mount
in the middle, so then you just

768
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:43.960
like put your hands around the wheel
for any of the first version controls and

769
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:46.840
then just come back and grab the
wheel and I just give you the wireless

770
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:51.480
speed wheel and you get one of
those wireless three sixty things for PC,

771
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:53.039
and I bet it would just totally
work. And think like I like gun

772
00:49:53.679 --> 00:50:00.960
yes and breaking bed. Yes,
that's right then, great man. I

773
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.760
saw I finished season four, like
what is what is it? It's at

774
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.400
least three different episodes that that game
is in, right, yes, My

775
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:09.239
favorite one though, and the box
will be laying about an episode. My

776
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:13.719
favorite one is there's that fight.
There's a tussle and like a bookshelf gets

777
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:17.079
jostled and like the copy of Raids
like falls very prominently in the frame.

778
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:22.039
It's crazy because it's just it's it's
this natural like fight between two characters and

779
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:23.920
somebody gets slamm against this bookshelf and
it you have to wonder it was like

780
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:28.360
was there a pa right off the
frame like that, like like very carefully

781
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:36.519
dropped at the copy of the games
into place, as I also saw why

782
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:38.920
you thought if we didn't haven't have
the discussion here about the opening of that

783
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.599
game, and like I thought there
was a spaceship, I probably would have

784
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.920
thought there was a spaceship. And
really because it's a big, spiky hunk

785
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:46.679
of rock though. Yeah, but
who knows that. I mean, it

786
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:51.239
didn't look like a bad space.
Yeah, We've seen plenty of Aliens spaceships

787
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:52.400
that were just hunks of rock.
I mean, you're ranted. I knew

788
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:57.199
with the story going in. Uh
but right because they had someone else wrote

789
00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.239
in and said I'm with you until
until you had that conversation, and I

790
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:02.519
thought that you were living in space
and crashed. Yeah, And they don't

791
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:06.320
really they don't do a good job
of saying like these are bunkers and stuff.

792
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:07.159
I mean, I knew it because
we had talked about it. But

793
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:09.360
if they just if they just come
up and said, like you know,

794
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:12.599
fall out right, all right,
here we go. When they call they

795
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.719
call your they call them arcs,
right, the underground things like that arc

796
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:20.239
kind of yeah. And they also
they say APOTHEI is on its way.

797
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:22.079
They don't say, like, you
know, this killer asteroid that's gonna wipe

798
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.639
us out. So yeah, it
is. It is not set up very

799
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:28.760
I don't know if it sets it
up more as you go a couple hours

800
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:30.239
in. Okay, understand all this
stuff, but yeah, I could definitely

801
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:34.679
see that. Uh yeah, games
games close so far, I shot a

802
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:40.559
bunch of guys. They animated really
nicely and kicking some He he doesn't he's

803
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:44.800
not in it enough, like he
should have been the main thread. Then

804
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:46.360
I will know to shavor him when
I finally it would have been great if

805
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:50.519
he had come back later in the
game to lead the movement. So now

806
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:52.159
I guess I'm I'm doing the Rage
thing and we'll see. We'll see how

807
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:57.079
that goes. Trying to trying to
catch up really quickly because it's happened.

808
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.880
There's Batman, I got data sex
to finish up. Finish up Rage,

809
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:02.920
which isn't all that long, right, and the side question are pretty in

810
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.159
consequential, so you can kind of
just mainline the story through it and listen

811
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.519
to hours and uh, and then
I get Skyrim. You know, that's

812
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:14.519
that's gonna hits up. I'm I'm
trying, and I was worried about it.

813
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.719
That's you know, as fixed length
of time. Skyram is the one

814
00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.000
I feel like, well, if
you're if we're talking in context of you

815
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:23.239
know, what are we can argue
about for Game of the Year, which

816
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:25.760
is pretty much what we're talking about
here. Well, if you can,

817
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.840
you can play enough Skyrom to know
if it rates for you without well,

818
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:34.920
he's also wants to play the I'm
also hoping it's really enjoyable. Yeah.

819
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:38.360
And so as I put down Dark
Souls for a bit, yeah, because

820
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:42.360
I reached a part. I reached
a part where they're pretty much like,

821
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.679
great, you, you are doing
really good here. Uh so there's four

822
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:46.480
other guys, now you need to
go kill. And I was like,

823
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:50.159
okay, you're gonna tell me exactly
what I need to do. And I

824
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.840
take a break out like where I'm
at that they haven't give you really any

825
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:53.960
direction at all. Yeah. So
yes, I opened up this like I

826
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.559
don't even call it like another act
or whatever, but they're basically like,

827
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.880
you did all this stuff that I'm
amazing. I didn't think you'd do it,

828
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:05.679
but hey, here's this next objective. And so it's very clear what

829
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:07.679
I need to go do. Put
that down for a bit because I think

830
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.599
it's going to be a lot more
of the same. I try it all

831
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:15.679
these other games that have come out. I beat the Gargoyles. That's good.

832
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:17.920
I rang the Bill. I need
to get back to that. You're

833
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:22.360
still playing, Yeah, off and
on when I have time, I can't

834
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.360
play it for long stretches, like
people like these Matt Rory's of the world

835
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:28.519
who were playing forty fifty hours.
Like, I don't get it. I

836
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:30.199
like to play about like an hour. Yeah, I grind and get a

837
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:35.519
little for the progress save then then
if I have any frustration in that hour,

838
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:38.840
I haven't lost that much time.
I like, if I just get

839
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:43.519
one room forward, yes, go
back exactly. Put that added to them

840
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:45.360
my memory of the pattern. I'm
fine with that because because you have to

841
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.119
memorize all that stuff, there's so
much repetition involved that, Like it's just

842
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:51.679
just really hard to do the same
thing like five six times in a row

843
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:54.840
and then keep playing the game and
then go and memorize a new section at

844
00:53:54.880 --> 00:54:01.679
the same I like that game.
It's treating me all right. Now recent

845
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:06.480
understanding with Dark Souls, Viney,
you play anything else? No, So

846
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:10.840
it was a rage and resistance resistance. I don't think there's something I not

847
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.599
a bitter up that Xbox or something, but health I remember, I don't

848
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:21.000
know play games watched Hannah, how
is it? I haven't seen that yet?

849
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.760
All right, Yeah, it's okay, Patrick lepic Hey, how's it

850
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:30.199
going all right? Cool played the
use of skyroom. Yes you did.

851
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:34.880
Yeah, are we gonna like that
game? Yeah, you're gonna like that

852
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:39.760
game. Wait from the guy who
doesn't like fantasy, right, that's right.

853
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:44.679
So it takes place in space.
It's like an hour with a sword,

854
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:46.800
and then you fight like eight dragons
and then you take off. There's

855
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:51.519
an arc. Okay, there's the
authority fly those dragons into space. So

856
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.039
I didn't I didn't really like I
didn't dragon cherryot. I don't really like

857
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:59.119
oblivion. Why didn't you like Oblivion? I thought the combat was really boring

858
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:00.960
and the area as we're not Yeah, I mean me and him had a

859
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:05.280
conversation about this last night, and
it's partially I think me and and then

860
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.679
you have similar personalities and that we
have to do everything that we see and

861
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:10.960
like that. It was literally doing
the same thing over and when when you

862
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:15.679
have that mentality and you're just the
completion is the attitude, but then nothing

863
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:22.280
interesting to do to problems. Attitude
makes them go and see all of the

864
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:28.159
kind of inconsequential site. That's why
it's a case where the achievement system like

865
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:32.880
actually works out pretty well because if
you view that as completing the game,

866
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:37.800
like they've got all the major like
faction quests and all that stuff for Oblivion

867
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.760
are are given achievements, not stuff. So by doing all that stuff,

868
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:45.159
I felt like I saw everything that
game had off. Yeah. I bought

869
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:47.440
Oblivion on the PC, which has
no achie. That was at the dawn

870
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:51.559
of the achievement of ages. Really
and well that the way that I played

871
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:54.280
Oblivion was thirty hours of going in
every single cave and every single like elders

872
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:58.239
ruin that I found, and then
never playing it again. If that had

873
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:00.599
been the game it was, it
was awful. It was awful. The

874
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:06.039
games should have been complete each faction
and like you unite the factions of something.

875
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:07.679
Yeah, close the OBLIVI yeah,
yeah, because that was the most

876
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.320
interesting stuff. By the end of
that game, I was like running up

877
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:14.440
those stairs, like running past enemies
to get their Oblivian gates. And they

878
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:16.239
were like they were like three they
had like, for lack of a better

879
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:20.760
word, like three tile sets for
every war room, like three different ones,

880
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:22.960
like the goldish looking one, the
bluish glowy one, and like he

881
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:25.239
just there was never anything interesting at
the end of them. No, and

882
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:29.960
they all looked exactly the same.
The Oblivion Gate stuff was so repetitive and

883
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.559
monotonous, and I thought the combat, the melee stuff in particular, it

884
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:36.360
was was just kind of boring.
It was just like swinging that sword the

885
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:38.280
guys are just running into they bounced
back and forth and get on top of

886
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:42.400
rock and kill something. Yeah.
I felt it's kind of cludgy. Yeah.

887
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:45.480
So, and also there were like
two voice actors, so yeah,

888
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:49.639
so I don't come from good Yeah, there are two of them, all

889
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:53.440
Patrick Stewart. And again, though
you like one context of the time of

890
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:57.760
kind of it was that was like
when you were like, god, I

891
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:00.400
need something to play on my brand
new Expox six. They came out four

892
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:06.719
months after launch, perfectly with it. Yeah, So tell me about Skyrim

893
00:57:06.760 --> 00:57:10.280
now. So one, it's it's
gorgeous, like a like absolutely gorgeous.

894
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:13.199
Like, so, I come up
from the Fallout perspective, you know,

895
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.599
I played basically an hour of Oblivion, uh, and then I played like

896
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:19.639
an hour of Fallot three, an
hour of fallow in New Vegas. The

897
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:22.800
game player is really familiar if you
played a Fallout one. So they've adopted

898
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:28.440
like the cinematic kills from Fallout three. So that but no vats, but

899
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:30.559
but it's like, you know,
so when you're your last strike will sometimes

900
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:35.440
trigger like a really cool animation sequence, but it's still as awkward as it

901
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:37.440
wasn't fallout where it's like not quite
a cool camera angle. It just kind

902
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:42.480
of like pulls out and then you're
pretty sure something cool will have. Mysterious

903
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:50.079
stranger shows up dumps three rounds,
but the stranger I didn't get fall enough

904
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.239
in the combat to see if the
game breaks sort of the combat meme of

905
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:57.039
oblivion and fallout, which is you're
always running backwards for your points to recharge,

906
00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:00.599
but they're but do you have like
stamina, your stamina you have you

907
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:07.079
know, magic And the one of
the things that I didn't get to is

908
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:08.920
that you know you have these dragon
shouts, which is what you earn these

909
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:12.840
powers. You find them in the
world by looking at different like you can

910
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:15.360
read dragon language or something. I'm
not totally familiar on the plot, but

911
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:17.239
basically you see these words that gives
you a power, but then you need

912
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:22.519
to kill a dragon in order to
unlock that power. So like I found

913
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:24.760
a dragon shout, which a lot
would basically let me do a force push,

914
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:28.960
and I didn't get but I kept
dying to the fucking dragon, so

915
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:31.400
I never got to use that.
But basically that would I can imagine that

916
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:35.880
kind of making the combat a little
more interesting because you could get get guys

917
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:40.639
away by yourself some time. Yeah, you have a In terms of I

918
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:46.000
found the I found the combat pretty
interesting because the new Favorite system, which

919
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:50.079
is basically how you equip things,
so you have and I played on the

920
00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:52.280
Xbox three SIXTI, so I'm not
sure how that's going to change the PC.

921
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:54.239
But basically the the inventory system,
when you go into it, you

922
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:59.679
can assign favorites and that's a sublist
of your total inventory. And so if

923
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:02.719
you like like this particular spell,
shield weapon, you know, that can

924
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:06.400
be your default, but you can
also add others to your favorite based on

925
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:08.280
like these sets, are they individuals, not set? There's all. It's

926
00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:10.360
just a it's a flown list and
then when you're in combat, you hit

927
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:15.119
up or down and then it pulls
up a favorite. It stops combat and

928
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:17.920
then you can hit yeah, hit
left trigger, right trigger to switch over

929
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:21.800
to some other spell. So you
know, I had my setup was like

930
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:23.599
I had a shield and a fire
spell. But then when I would run

931
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:27.840
out of magic, I would switch
to a shield because magic was different than

932
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.199
stamina, so it would buy me
some time while I went in for the

933
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.360
magic to recharge. But like,
the dungeon themselves seem way more interesting,

934
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.280
Like so I only got to the
first side dungeon, but there's actual like

935
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.920
I don't know if I believe in
there were there puzzles in the actual dungeons,

936
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:45.039
like or was it just your fighting
through some dues collecting loot get into

937
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:47.760
the puzzle. It might have been
like got to find a key on a

938
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:53.039
dude to get was this stuff like
that? So so well, okay,

939
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:55.960
I'll just list the puzzles here.
So there are two puzzles in the first

940
00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:00.440
major side dungeon that you can come
to, and one was, uh,

941
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.079
when you pull this lever, a
bunch of arrows shoot out you and you

942
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:06.039
see a guy laying on the ground
who clearly pulled that lever and then died.

943
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:09.840
And then you look up at the
top and there are three symbols and

944
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:14.519
this the missing there's a symbol missing
in the middle. Then you look over

945
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.079
the left and there are three levers
where you can you can switch the symbols

946
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:20.360
around. And so then you have
to look in the environment find where that

947
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:22.840
stone fell down to figure out the
three statues that you have to line up.

948
01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:28.760
Then it disables the arrow as you
walk through. Another one is you.

949
01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:30.760
So one of the side quest is
you have to go find this this

950
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:35.519
golden uh through what it's called,
but it say this gold yes, and

951
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:37.079
it doesn't really matter. And so
you come across this door and it's got

952
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.320
a bunch of symbols and there's really
no discerning way to figure out how you're

953
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:44.920
supposed to open this. The game
lets you open up every object and look

954
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:49.199
at it. Three models inspect it. So if you pull up the quest

955
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.440
object, flip it around, it
shows you the sequence and then you have

956
01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:57.599
to put that sequence in and then
you move forward. There was stuff not

957
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:00.239
like God, but this is also
these are quest so this is a mainline

958
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:02.360
quest. So this is actually making
some of the stuff that you don't have

959
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:07.559
to do perhaps a little more interesting
than didn't get didn't get too much into

960
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:12.159
it because I mean I played three
hours, Like it's really overwhelming to start

961
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:15.519
a game like that, and like
I have three hours? What the ship

962
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:17.360
am I going to do? I
guess, yeah, because like do I

963
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.960
want to do the story stuff to
want to just like go screw out in

964
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:22.840
the world and figure out what I
can break. Do I want to even

965
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:25.679
rush at this point? Or is
it still so early that I don't know

966
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:29.239
how any of the systems work because
they start you forty five minutes in the

967
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:32.039
game, so like I don't So
you didn't even see like the opening.

968
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:37.559
They were skipping over the intro and
basically just starting you where you exit this

969
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:39.400
cave kind of like you exit the
vault and fall out, and I think

970
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:43.480
this is where the game like forty
five minutes must have been set up in

971
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:45.760
tutorial, right you can't really Yeah, now it's just all this stuff that

972
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.480
you had to play the game.
Here's the world. Yeah, So I

973
01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:50.559
like I jumped in. I figured, well, you know they're giving you

974
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:52.760
know, but that's gonna be the
save. I'm probably like pre equipped some

975
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:54.599
spells and stuff like that, and
encounter my first wolf and like, no,

976
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:58.599
nothing's equipped, Like I have no
armor, equipped, no shields,

977
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:02.079
Like I'm just punching this a wolf
with like this. Yeah, and a

978
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:07.320
certain love like kind of feel for
pr that has to like present hard game,

979
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:13.280
Like you know, First Dragon Age
was constantly plagued by you know,

980
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:17.360
here's here's the same and you've got
you know, full party and like have

981
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:21.280
fun. Lack of context was a
demo killer for games like Yeah, so

982
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:22.440
so this is kind of the best
way to do is here's three hours.

983
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:27.000
Make of it. What you will
give, you will come over to you.

984
01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:29.960
If you're going to do something that
you shouldn't shouldn't be doing, you're

985
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:32.480
gonna break the game. Uh.
But like one of the things is the

986
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.280
weather effects are really incredible. So
like when you're going up to that first

987
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:39.199
side quest, which is you know, in this in this this cave area,

988
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:44.840
Uh, the first time you come
to it's completely nice looking, sunny

989
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:47.239
day, like totally normal. And
then as you're going up this mountain starts

990
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:51.199
to get snow eier and snow eier, like to the point where you can

991
01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:53.599
barely see anything in front of you, and like it's a really, really

992
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:59.199
damn good looking blizzards perfectly fine.
Yes, you're fighting through this blizzard,

993
01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:04.000
which makes even like normal combat scenario
is kind of interesting because you're trying to

994
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:06.159
fight, but you're also trying to
fight through this blizzard. And I'm not

995
01:03:06.159 --> 01:03:07.280
sure if it changes dynamically or not, but as soon as I went down

996
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:13.119
the moutain it started raining. So
the weather's changing pretty pretty often. And

997
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.440
it's just like the attention to detail, like to the point where I went

998
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:22.119
into one of the castle areas and
there's a map on one of the tables

999
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:23.199
and you don't have to go look
at it. There's no reason for you

1000
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:27.440
to go look at it. And
there's a bunch of little markers on the

1001
01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:30.039
map, and I thought, well, that's probably just something I could steal,

1002
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.639
so it'll probably show up is red
and I shouldn't steal it. But

1003
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:37.760
if you examine them, those are
actually legitimate map markers that add markers to

1004
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:39.480
your map, And it's just like
you don't have to go look at that,

1005
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:43.840
it's just there, like it's one
little like I imagine there'd be tons

1006
01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:45.800
of people that never ever come across
that, But I was just kind of

1007
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:49.800
a testament to it does to having
made these games for as long as they

1008
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:53.920
have to have these just crazy tiny
details. Did you were you able to

1009
01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:57.519
check out the third person mode at
all? Did you? Yeah? It

1010
01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:00.440
is better you're not going to use
it. Yeah, okay, I imagine

1011
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:03.239
that must only be there for people
that just want to see what imagine with

1012
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:06.360
Oblivion, they probably got a lot
of people that never would have played a

1013
01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:09.400
game like that, right, Like
the w when that came out, it

1014
01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:11.920
was just you wanted something for your
Xbox. So I think the third person

1015
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:15.880
is kind of just there for like
people who are more into maybe action games,

1016
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:18.119
and they're used to having a third
person and that feels more natural.

1017
01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:20.559
It looks better. It's way better
than it wasn't Oblivion or Fallout. But

1018
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:24.920
like you're not gonna you're not gonna
want to see you to see the armor

1019
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:28.519
and stuff. Yeah, they get
on my guy. Yeah, I can't

1020
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:31.440
remember. I thought Moro Wind was
third person, but was it not?

1021
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:35.440
Maybe you could. I think that
was another one where you could look at

1022
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:39.199
it that way. But gosh,
I think I don't know what happened.

1023
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:42.880
Like I really love Moro Wind,
Like I thought that game was amazing.

1024
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:45.440
I don't know what changed. Maybe
I changed between Moro Wind and Oblivion,

1025
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:48.639
but I just did not dig Oblivion
as much. So I'm hoping this is

1026
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:53.480
like that attention to detail, like
you said that they put the time in

1027
01:04:54.360 --> 01:04:58.360
to flesh out this big world because
Oblivion just did not feel it was a

1028
01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:00.800
big world. Yeah, I just
felt repetitive. Well, I mean a

1029
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:04.360
Fallout like fallow Out three's main story
was not that great, but the all

1030
01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:08.880
the other stuff around it, like
the side quests, were way better than

1031
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:13.079
any of the mainline stuff and can
follow Out three, So I'm hopeful that's

1032
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.760
going to be the same case here. But yeah, I mean, if

1033
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:18.719
you've liked other beth As the games
like this, this game looks awesome.

1034
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:23.360
It's do you mess around at all
excited? I know, like you can

1035
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:27.519
equip the same spell in both hands
to do like a better version of that,

1036
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:31.679
or like we've saw some of that, yeah a few months ago.

1037
01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:34.840
Yeah, I think I didn't get
far enough to to really see any of

1038
01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:41.320
that sort of stuff. But the
the upgrade system is a combination of I

1039
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:45.599
guess Oblivion and Fallout. So it's
not just they've got you're not doing any

1040
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:47.320
You're not gonna be doing any sort
of like tying a rubber band around your

1041
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:51.639
analog stick in order to jump to
ninety nine. So like, for example,

1042
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:56.280
when you're blocking or doing physical attacks
or anything, you're those are going

1043
01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:59.480
up and you're getting rewarded as you're
as you're in combat. But that feeds

1044
01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:04.679
into the perk system, which is
in order to unlock certain things within the

1045
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:08.519
skill tree. For like blocking,
you have to get blocking to a certain

1046
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:11.000
level, like thirty five forties.
So it's not like you can just dump

1047
01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:14.199
a bunch of you're not dumping skill
points. I think skill points are kind

1048
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:15.320
of intimidating. Like that's just me
as a guy that hasn't played a lot

1049
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:18.239
of old school RPGs. So like
when you get like a stat screen,

1050
01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:21.719
it's like, here's twenty, you
have twenty points, just put them somewhere.

1051
01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:27.039
They really just a speech. I
think it's I think it's just strength,

1052
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:29.239
dexterity, and magic. Yes,
it's those three. And then you

1053
01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:32.159
have perk points to go across like
fifteen twenty different tributes and there's a speech,

1054
01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:36.920
there's a speech one, and like
I was trying to like go through

1055
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:40.639
some of them and write down some
of the cool attributes. You can,

1056
01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:43.440
like like one of the perks would
be like convinced the police to forget the

1057
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:46.519
crime you just committed, and that's
like a specific perk under the speech tree,

1058
01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:50.320
and you can like you can pay
people using speech tree, so that

1059
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:56.360
the middleware generated all these great dialogues
really family. Yeah, I think they

1060
01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:59.679
went with talk engine for this one. Wow, talking engine, talk engine

1061
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:02.159
degree. So they're they're back in
supports just so much better. So does

1062
01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:05.840
that like things are red? Don't
steal this? Yep? Okay, yep,

1063
01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:09.280
that's for stuff. I mean,
are there are karma points or anything

1064
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:11.960
like that. I'm no, I
don't think so, okay, not that

1065
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:14.480
I didn't steal anything. So I
guess I I guess. I don't know,

1066
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:15.480
but I mean, but you can
you can you know that, Like

1067
01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:19.440
one of the first quests is like
a really simple like setup of like morality.

1068
01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:25.280
Where do you run across this elf
who has this he's in a competing

1069
01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:30.199
uh this love triangle, and so
he's written a letter in the words of

1070
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:31.800
the other guy to try and discredit
him. And so you can either go

1071
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:34.079
inform the other guy like, hey, this dude trying to suck you over,

1072
01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:36.800
or you can go to the other
guy and tell that guy, hey,

1073
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:40.079
this dude's trying to suck you over, And you can kind of play

1074
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:45.679
the two sides. But can you
get the girl? No? Maybe later.

1075
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:48.239
I'm pretty sure same sex marriage is
in the sky repisode. You know,

1076
01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:51.559
wait, you can get married.
Yeah really yeah, not since Fantasy

1077
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:57.760
Star three has video game marriage been
so progressive. But can I can I

1078
01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:03.039
marry like a tire lady or lizard
manage? In your species, marriage is

1079
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:09.000
defined by a union of a human
and another human. Take your human elf

1080
01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:14.239
marriages and get the hell out of
here. I mean, Jeff, Jeff

1081
01:08:14.280 --> 01:08:16.880
brings up middleware flippantly, But I
mean they've made so much noise about this

1082
01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:19.960
being like a new engine and stuff. Did it actually feel more sound like

1083
01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:23.760
the world, feel like it's put
together better. I didn't run into any

1084
01:08:23.800 --> 01:08:26.560
of the weird glitches, but like
I there were other I've read other write

1085
01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:29.520
ups for people you know, are
walking along the line and just get stuck

1086
01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:31.439
in a hole. But I mean, but does this come out and said

1087
01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:34.560
like this is like this is pre
alphab pre alpha bill and this from a

1088
01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:39.439
while ago, but it was like
this was a stable code that was this

1089
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:42.720
branch of the game as far as
they figured writers would get was enough.

1090
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:46.039
So the game has made you know, some approvements since then, I'm sure,

1091
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:48.399
But yeah, it's a but that
is the game, so it's gonna

1092
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:51.039
be fucked up, Like I mean, that's just yeah, that's part of

1093
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:54.439
it the price you pay for,
like the size. Yeah, but the

1094
01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:58.520
game looks the world looks much much
more polished, like it's it's come a

1095
01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:02.199
long way, like it's it's substantially
above oblivion and follow three and yeah,

1096
01:09:02.359 --> 01:09:05.199
yeah it's it's much more a par
with what you'd expect from a moor.

1097
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:09.560
Again, they would have much more
linear structure and more time to dedicate to

1098
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:15.479
assets and detail. Sky. Yeah, dragons. Only playing three hours was

1099
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:18.439
kind of a bummer. I tried
to fight the dragon like four times,

1100
01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:20.840
and I kept like, do you
want to try more time? Tell me

1101
01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:25.439
more about the dragon. Is he
a talking dragon? Yeah? Dragon heils?

1102
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:29.119
Yeah, dragon killing? Really talking
in dragonese? Or like, hey

1103
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:34.039
I'm flying, I'm a dragon.
Are they like the gold hoarding kind of

1104
01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:38.720
dragons? A small style like a
smag? I don't. I don't.

1105
01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:42.560
There's lots of different dragons, different
tributes. I love. I love dragons

1106
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:45.760
that aren't just beasts. I love
it when a dragons like no I can

1107
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:49.279
talk and I have desires for things
like gold. So you start in the

1108
01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:54.520
world where people don't believe dragons exist, and then like dragons start appearing out

1109
01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:58.079
of nowhere. I think I think
you're I think your character it's called like

1110
01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:00.600
a dragon born. Yeah, so
you have some sort of connection to that,

1111
01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:03.640
and that's why you can read the
language of the dragons probably, and

1112
01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:09.960
so the game you're half dragon,
but you're I wish I was half dragon.

1113
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:12.720
How do you know you've got some
dragon in you? Would you like?

1114
01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:19.800
Yeah, what are you selling?
Yeah? So yeah, you reade.

1115
01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:24.760
You start you start talking with a
bunch of different characters about rumors about

1116
01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:28.119
dragons, and then you go to
investigate the first like major quest as you

1117
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:30.680
go to investigate where it was a
room or dragon attack and then oh shit,

1118
01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:36.479
there's a dragon dragon confirmed shoots fire. He's powerful and he yells,

1119
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:41.359
I'm gonna burn you. Weird?
Was it a red dragon? The dragon

1120
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:44.800
fight that I saw back in April, it just roared. I think it's

1121
01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:46.840
a blue dragon, just a monster, you know what? It sounded like

1122
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:50.520
the dragon. I'm just gonna say
the dragon was speaking. I'm pretty sure

1123
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:56.439
it was speaking refined British accent.
I don't think. I don't think it

1124
01:10:56.479 --> 01:11:00.520
was Sean Connery, maybe Patrick Stewart, Eliza would it was actually Spiro?

1125
01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:05.239
Yeah, somebody put somebody put out
of the base. Yeah, it goes

1126
01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:09.479
in the sky rim. Did you
see any of the any of the shouts?

1127
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:14.000
The first Yeah was so the first
one is is like a basically a

1128
01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:15.279
force push. But you have to
kill you have to, you have to

1129
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:18.079
you have to kill the first dragon
to unlocked the ability to use that.

1130
01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:23.600
And I kept kill the dragon,
kill the dragon. Maybe could have got

1131
01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:26.640
your speech up and talk the dragon
out of it. Man, that would

1132
01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:30.359
be commitced the dragon to kill itself. That's right, and then get the

1133
01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:34.239
heart of the dragon. Chop Chop, Yes, shouldn't it shouldn't be my

1134
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:43.359
charcter name, Chop Chop Chop Chop. I'm looking forward of that game at

1135
01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:45.680
some point. When is it?
Do you remember? Love it? Yep?

1136
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:53.079
Should It's almost done? Still alpha? Still isn't it? Isn't it

1137
01:11:53.119 --> 01:12:00.239
like three weeks? And then yeah, get that DLC probably a couple of

1138
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:04.079
weeks ago. It was as stupid
as is. They should totally just put

1139
01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:08.119
out new horse armor. Yeah,
do you get a horse? I wasn't

1140
01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:10.880
able to afford it. It was
a thousand dollars or a thousand jail or

1141
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:17.399
whatever. Senny horse. There's a
horse and you actually ride like fast travel?

1142
01:12:17.479 --> 01:12:19.399
No, you no, you ride
it. I think I think you

1143
01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:21.319
can attack off of it too.
What do I need? Where do I

1144
01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:26.720
need the pre order from to get
the free horse? But like, shouldn't

1145
01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:29.319
that be the pre order bonus for
for all it just like we came up

1146
01:12:29.319 --> 01:12:34.560
with like eight different body horse armor
variants and you're gonna get one. Yeah,

1147
01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:39.880
and I want them branded. I
want like the target yeah, exactly,

1148
01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:44.479
targets. But if it's just like
actually just like billboard on the horse,

1149
01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:48.920
not like not not tongue dynamic ads
for the for the company, for

1150
01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:55.479
the place that I'm advertising, advertising
upcoming films, normal activity three this weekend

1151
01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:59.680
multiplayer stuff like you're there straight up
like a subway trucker hat that you can

1152
01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:03.239
put on Nathan Drake around and the
multiplayer well no, yeah, finally it

1153
01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:08.720
wasn't been missing. A dragon has
a giant game stop billboard around his neck

1154
01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:14.520
to the gold chase. It just
says, don't trade me in DLC coming

1155
01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:19.279
soon, please, you don't trade
anything at discount. Patrick. Last week,

1156
01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:25.279
you me and mister Shoemaker here wheeled
on over to Friday Friday Night.

1157
01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:29.920
Friday night wheeled on over to Double
Fine. That did happen? And then

1158
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:34.640
you came back here for the doctobercast
after that. It was the best night,

1159
01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:39.119
but also the worst. I was
when I was at home after because

1160
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:42.439
I took off from the Double Fine
thing early. When I was at home

1161
01:13:42.560 --> 01:13:45.439
watching the stream, and when I
saw that you guys had brought a full

1162
01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:48.159
posse with you from the Double Fun
thing, was like, oh God,

1163
01:13:48.239 --> 01:13:50.840
damn, but I wish I was
there right now. Oh, it's pretty

1164
01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:55.319
good. This looks so much.
When Karen shows up, you know it's

1165
01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:58.840
a good bad time. They brought
I have sack of hairburgers. Yeah,

1166
01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:02.279
I saw the Hamburgers showed up and
everyone got real excited about that. Karen

1167
01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:11.560
yelling sounds about right. Yeah yeah, But that's about my recollection of Then

1168
01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:15.119
the wave did not come, Yeah, Gary, not a big wave is

1169
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:19.039
a real wet blanket when it comes
to waves. No Google waves and no

1170
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:23.720
real waves. Maybe it's a you
know, British thing. Probably probably don't

1171
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:28.640
wave so much. The people whole
Navy events. They just fight each other.

1172
01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:32.359
Yes, the wave is soft.
If you if you do a wave,

1173
01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:35.880
you get glassed, ye, so
look out for that. Anyway.

1174
01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:40.560
Double five they were showing off a
couple of things. Six amazing products.

1175
01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:45.359
So one of those things which count
them off, which so Psychonauts for for

1176
01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:48.840
Mac yeah, yeah, Costume Quest
for PC, yeah, which which came

1177
01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:53.520
out that night. They hit the
launch button, like when the event started,

1178
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:56.880
did they really? Which is sending
steaming? Which is sending which is

1179
01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:00.319
sending Steam? No, all right, so their version of that is sending

1180
01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:02.039
Steam an email saying they already worked
it out with them ahead of time.

1181
01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:04.520
Hey, we'll send you an email
when our press event starts. Yeah,

1182
01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:09.039
and that's when you put it on. The other one is a valve actually

1183
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:13.000
has like a big red button that
is connected to Steam that when they put

1184
01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:15.039
their stuff out, they'll the team
gathers round and they hit a big red

1185
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:18.039
button actual physical reel, but there's
actually like a lever. They pull it

1186
01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.840
like it's all yet they said,
there's like actual Steam that comes out,

1187
01:15:21.920 --> 01:15:25.479
and every time they put out a
new product, they all gathered together and

1188
01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:28.960
all his video of this everybody.
So that's that's the best part. They

1189
01:15:29.039 --> 01:15:32.439
keep it for themselves. Yeah,
I need Yeah, that's that's so awesome.

1190
01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:42.279
This gave Newell selected ceremonial knife and
slater he cuts his own tongue and

1191
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:46.079
the newest and most new bottle of
interns cuts there. He stands before the

1192
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:50.600
symboled employees and a loin cloth and
takes a bite of the still beating heart

1193
01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:55.239
and then put then cleans that knife
off and puts it back on the shelf,

1194
01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:59.119
never to be used again. I'm
once per game. It's a great

1195
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:04.079
place to work as long as murdered. That's great, all right. So

1196
01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:10.079
there's cost request PC, there's the
Psychonauts stuff, Once upon a Monster,

1197
01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:15.000
the Trench DLC, Iron Brigade deals
still Trench right now. It will be

1198
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:19.800
Iron Brigade shortly, but it's only
DLC for Iron Brigade. That delC does

1199
01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:24.760
not exist for Trenched. It'll it'll
be Iron Brigade before the dec the title

1200
01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:28.399
up date turns it into Iron Brigade
comes. Guys are being funny about not

1201
01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:31.319
remembering the previous name. Ye're really
good about that. They did not say

1202
01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:34.479
Trenched one whatever it was called before. I don't. It's funny how you

1203
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:42.520
can forget that Rise of the Martian
Bear with actual bears with a mechanical bear

1204
01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:46.600
bear. Russian Martian Trenches. Yes, that's the name of l I feel

1205
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:55.159
like I feel like they always some
of this stuff. So they so let's

1206
01:16:55.319 --> 01:16:59.479
talk about the Iron Brigade stuff some
I guess that's awesome. Uh it looks

1207
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:02.520
like it looks like more Iron Brigade. It looks like more trenched, all

1208
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:06.000
right there there, I will say
it. I wanted more trench absolutely so

1209
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:10.840
absolutely so when they when they put
out that patch, that's gonna they got

1210
01:17:10.920 --> 01:17:13.680
no dates or prices for any of
the stuff yet, but the title update

1211
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:16.119
is really soon, yeah, and
then a DLC is soon, so that

1212
01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:19.680
so that title update will and they
were saying like probably like a month between

1213
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:23.079
the two, yeah, and they
want to get scheduled out. So that

1214
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:26.560
tile update's gonna change the name of
the game from Trench Time Brigade, and

1215
01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:30.000
it will also introduce one challenge mode
level and that'll probably coincide with the launch

1216
01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:32.640
in other territories, right, yeah, Yeah, that's that's supposed to be.

1217
01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:35.680
So when it comes out in Europe
as Iron Bride, everybody will get

1218
01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:40.079
everyone will get the patch that also
introduces this challenge mode and changes the name

1219
01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:43.560
and then yeah, and then they
kind of were saying like it with the

1220
01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:45.079
name, like you know, they'd
like to keep a Trench to you know,

1221
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:48.359
but if they don't make an Iron
Brigade, then everyone can't play together,

1222
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.680
right, so otherwise you starts splitting
territories. In addition to they have

1223
01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:54.720
to just ditch the Trench name at
this point if they want to do a

1224
01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:58.000
worldwide brand, they still call it
your Trench. Yeah, everything else like

1225
01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:00.319
it, like, it's still the
Trench Brigade. It's just the and even

1226
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:03.000
like literally the title like you saw
it during the Big Live Live, like

1227
01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:06.560
the title screen looks exactly the same, except instead where it says Trenched,

1228
01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:14.119
like the same font and everything is
probotector is a photoshop later change. Yeah,

1229
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:17.359
okay, yeah pretty much. But
so then they've got a new campaign's

1230
01:18:17.439 --> 01:18:23.079
DLC campaign. Do we get another
thousand points? Not a thousands? No,

1231
01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:27.560
no, no, it's because it's
because that'll changed the name on the

1232
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:30.560
back end to it'll it'll everything on
dah for that. No no, no,

1233
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:34.319
no, no, I imagine they
will add points for this DALC patch.

1234
01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:36.840
I wonder if you'll be able to
clear your system cash and then go

1235
01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:41.840
back and play Trenched. You should
be able to. Yeah, it's usually

1236
01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:45.359
all that stuff works. So this
is a cosmetic change for Trench. They'll

1237
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:47.600
change the title screen. That's pretty
much all you need to know. But

1238
01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:53.880
they're also but they're also adding the
Challenge mode, which was okay, basically

1239
01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:57.239
you know, yeah, Horde mode, the thing that was missing from Trench

1240
01:18:57.359 --> 01:19:00.560
before. Once you got to the
end, yea and so end in that

1241
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:03.600
similar style, every five waves or
something, you'll get some hot new piece

1242
01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:09.960
of loot. Cool. But then
there's the the DLC Rise of the Martian

1243
01:19:10.039 --> 01:19:12.920
Bear which is coming out, which
is paid later paid deals. Yeah,

1244
01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:17.600
that's that's proper downloadable content. A
new campaign that takes place primarily on Mars

1245
01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:23.279
four areas. I think it's exactly
the size of one of the three areas

1246
01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:26.960
from the main game. Yeah,
yeah, except that you're on Mars now,

1247
01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:30.199
and except for the first mission where
you're like basically fighting in the dry

1248
01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:33.600
dock of the McKinley. Yeah,
as it's being retrofitted to go into space.

1249
01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:39.000
Really turn the aircraft carrier in the
space. They put it so they

1250
01:19:39.039 --> 01:19:44.920
put a bubbled dome over like the
flight deck of the McKinley. They stood

1251
01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:47.199
into space, and there's also a
crow's nest on there that also has its

1252
01:19:47.239 --> 01:19:49.960
own tiny little dome on top of
it as well. Do you have to

1253
01:19:50.039 --> 01:19:54.159
wear a space helmet when you're fighting
out. Mars seems to have been like

1254
01:19:54.279 --> 01:20:00.000
terraform Marsan Cohgan gave the people their
air. But they but they have resistant,

1255
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.399
did any and all they say they
have resisted any and all total recall

1256
01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:08.399
references as that is, and they
actually actually identified Twist of pixel is having

1257
01:20:08.439 --> 01:20:11.439
corner of the market though total recall
references, so they just didn't touch it.

1258
01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:14.920
Good on them. They're just going
with Ghosts of Mars jokes now.

1259
01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:18.319
But the best yes, the best
part just ghost of Mars. Yeah,

1260
01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:23.640
remember the darkness, Like you just
find a TV and you can watch all

1261
01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:27.319
of Ghosts of Mars, just the
whole movies right there. That the best

1262
01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:30.359
part about it is that's kind of
poor John Carpenter breaks ice Cube out of

1263
01:20:30.439 --> 01:20:33.640
jail. Then it's the other way
around it breaking. That's hosh answered that

1264
01:20:33.800 --> 01:20:38.039
jail. One of them breaks the
other one out of jail. They're running

1265
01:20:38.079 --> 01:20:45.119
out with shot and then credits.
Yeah, fucking great Southern theater. No

1266
01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:48.159
Vampires was the last time I got
burned by John Carpenter. Movie in the

1267
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:55.520
theaters was okay, the very beginning
when James was like the first time they

1268
01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:59.720
go and kill a vampire and they're
like using the crazy like the lines to

1269
01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:02.319
get vampires out Like that was cool. And the part where James Woods is

1270
01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:08.439
just cursing like crazy as he's stabbing
the ship out of this one vampire best

1271
01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:11.640
part of the movie, like opening
five minutes those two movies. Well,

1272
01:21:11.840 --> 01:21:16.000
Vampire is okay, Ghostmar is not
okay. But there are things I liked

1273
01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:18.600
about it sure, like the fact
that it's called ghost Smar. Yeah,

1274
01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:25.039
that's pretty much. I'll give you
that. So yeah, so so rising

1275
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:28.960
the Martian Bear. If you left
out the most important part. Uh,

1276
01:21:29.239 --> 01:21:32.000
Lad is now a bear. Yeah, Vlad has downloaded his brain into his

1277
01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:39.920
pet bear, Boris Boris and and
now and now that his brain is in,

1278
01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:45.399
it has the the Lad multi layer
must be and it's got it's got

1279
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:49.800
straight up just a TV in its
head that has Vlad on it. And

1280
01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:55.840
you can watch Ghostmrs on this evie. That's exactly that's it. More you

1281
01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:59.279
know, more new loot, whole
new Uh I only played a played like

1282
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:01.760
one of the mission and through there
and uh do you know stuff goes back

1283
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:05.000
and forth. Yeah, you take
your character in but like back from Mars.

1284
01:22:06.079 --> 01:22:09.840
So yeah, you should be able
to I would have I can't see

1285
01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:15.760
bring your stuff in from from Yeah, probably totally, totally. I know

1286
01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:17.920
it would be too good for that, Like Cordin now, it sounds like

1287
01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:21.119
they've they've kind of been rebalancing some
stuff. They said that like by the

1288
01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:25.359
time they got to the end talking
to it to Brad muir Uh from Double

1289
01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:27.359
Fine, he said, by the
time they got to the end of development

1290
01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:30.520
on on Trench Proper, that they
had gone to some kind of outland as

1291
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:33.640
ship as far as the power of
the weapons, So it sounds like they

1292
01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:38.199
might be tweaking some of that stuff
and making it more reasonable. It sounds

1293
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:43.239
like they were also very like it
was good for them to have a time

1294
01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:45.640
when they were not working on that
game and then come back to it,

1295
01:22:45.720 --> 01:22:48.119
because by the end of this is
crazy. By the end of Trench development,

1296
01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:51.000
those guys guys are right. I
was wrong. Oh my god.

1297
01:22:51.359 --> 01:22:57.159
Those guys were like you remember how
they were like, we have nod if

1298
01:22:57.199 --> 01:23:00.279
this is good, We've been too
close to it for too long, so

1299
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:02.119
we know it's a video game.
Fresh Eye was good for that. That's

1300
01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:05.119
a crash. I don't know.
I'm not even sure that yeah, I

1301
01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:12.039
don't know and so so so.
Yeah, the most important part I kind

1302
01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:15.680
of don't want to say it,
but I know other people will because I

1303
01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:20.199
want people just see it for themselves
organically for the first time. Okay,

1304
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:24.680
stop there, stop, I don't
even know what you're talking to. Close

1305
01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:27.399
the door on it. That's it. What's the next what's the next product?

1306
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:30.319
They were showing. Someone else is
gonna say this. Maybe they would,

1307
01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:32.239
maybe they won't read it. Ye, don't say it. Don't be

1308
01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:39.560
the guy media black media blackout on
Iron Brigade. I don't oh man,

1309
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:43.880
Yeah, don't say it. Don't
say it. Somebody's gonna beat you too.

1310
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:46.319
It's all right. Don't be that
guy though. Okay, I mean

1311
01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:49.359
there is there is something. I
keep this more to it. Having only

1312
01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:56.399
played one, uh one scenario in
that game in that DLC, I can

1313
01:23:57.279 --> 01:24:00.880
guarantee you that if you like Trenched, this is is worth the price of

1314
01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:04.720
admitting already our Trench team back together. We don't talk about that. It

1315
01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:11.840
was you and Will Smith and wild
Card. Ah right, I forgot I

1316
01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:14.880
forgot me in this time because by
the time you guys have played it,

1317
01:24:14.920 --> 01:24:17.960
I had already completed the game.
So I didn't have rolled with David Ellison

1318
01:24:18.039 --> 01:24:24.960
the fourth swap, That's right,
yeah, but so uh. In addition

1319
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:30.000
to that campaign, that DLC will
also add two more challenge levels, so

1320
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:33.359
you have multiple stages to go pour
on. Just say it, just say

1321
01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:36.640
it. No, we're done.
Not that. This is another property,

1322
01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:42.960
the biggest deal and so you know
what, we'll cover it later. What

1323
01:24:43.159 --> 01:24:47.119
was the other announced? The thing? Uh? Double fine Happy Action Theater

1324
01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:56.199
hat de fact is so uh so
this is a actually, Patrick, you

1325
01:24:56.279 --> 01:25:00.560
want to describe this one? It's
a connect game? Is it a game

1326
01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:08.119
collection? It's good minigame collection without
scores or real objectives. It is very

1327
01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:11.880
toilet fail state. Uh, it's
I mean like Tim Shafer basically pitched it

1328
01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:15.119
as we wanted to make a game
for kids and drunk people. That's exactly

1329
01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:17.840
and that's exactly what he said.
And that's and I was like, we

1330
01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:23.359
should make another one of those.
He was so so I talked to it.

1331
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:27.119
I talked h a little bit about
this, and and he said,

1332
01:25:27.119 --> 01:25:30.079
you know, I was sitting next
to the Once Upon a Monster guys while

1333
01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:33.760
they were you know, making that
game, and uh, and just seeing

1334
01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:40.159
how much frustration they had dealing with
like with with like fail state issues with

1335
01:25:40.239 --> 01:25:43.199
the game where if someone walked in
front of someone else it would fuck this

1336
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:45.079
up. And he's like, I
just wanted to make something that didn't have

1337
01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:49.439
those issues like so that so that
if if connect acts weird on you,

1338
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:54.039
it doesn't matter. It's like it's
it's the part of the fund. So

1339
01:25:54.359 --> 01:25:57.880
the attraction is look at the weird
stuff that you're doing on and also try

1340
01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:01.319
to break it that you're trying to
break Connecting, like bum rush the screen

1341
01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:03.479
with a bunch of people to just
see what it does. Here's here's the

1342
01:26:03.520 --> 01:26:06.000
best example of how that works.
When you were Patrick, you were doing

1343
01:26:06.199 --> 01:26:10.279
uh, there's the one mini game
where it's basically all seventies style like stars

1344
01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:13.000
constantly flying at the screen. Yeah, like you know, like stuff.

1345
01:26:13.079 --> 01:26:16.119
Yeah. Uh. The fourth player
while you were playing that got identified as

1346
01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:20.319
the curtain behind you guys, So
every fourth star that flew out was like

1347
01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:24.479
the curtain fluttering or whatever, and
it looked amazing, crazy like it didn't

1348
01:26:24.479 --> 01:26:27.039
break the game. And there's better
and there's you know, there's one where

1349
01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:31.439
it's like a like Space Invaders where
everyone's a tiny butterfly at the bottom of

1350
01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:34.159
the screen, and enemies are flying
in from the top, and everyone's kind

1351
01:26:34.159 --> 01:26:38.760
of shuffling back and forth to try
and shoot stuff, and the shooting is

1352
01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:42.000
all having automatically, so it's just
like wherever you are standing. You know,

1353
01:26:42.359 --> 01:26:45.159
of course, it's impossible to not
try and pretend you are the bullets

1354
01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:48.119
right right. And there's one where
it's just like the room fills with with

1355
01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:50.880
like bouncy balls, and so you're
just kicking and punching them around, and

1356
01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:56.600
there's a breakout clone. There's a
like a hot lava circus mirror. There's

1357
01:26:56.640 --> 01:26:58.760
a hot lop. I didn't see
the hot lava stuff. There was this

1358
01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:03.359
Godzilla style. The wholest one that
I saw though, was like this like

1359
01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:09.600
multi photo sequence thing where it which
is the depth camera. Yeah yeah,

1360
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:12.920
it would just like layer like one
picture on top of the other on top

1361
01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:15.039
of the other, like you know, everything that's the same stage is the

1362
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:18.000
same, so it's only adding in
like whatever you changed, so you get

1363
01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:23.039
like dude has like eight arms,
or dude is punching himself, Dude is

1364
01:27:23.079 --> 01:27:27.520
making out with himself, right right, a natural extension of the depth camera.

1365
01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:30.439
Just lots of lots of weird dumb
stuff like yeah, yeah, it

1366
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:32.920
just it just sounds like this is
like almost like the ultimate connect fun Labs

1367
01:27:33.039 --> 01:27:35.720
apt or Yeah, totally totally it
would fit in with that stuff, except

1368
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:39.479
that it's way it seems, it
seems way better than most of it does

1369
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:43.279
what that was trying to do,
and also that it it just goes like

1370
01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:47.239
each of these maybe lasts like a
couple of minutes, so it's like or

1371
01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:50.039
an example, like the breakout one, like it doesn't end until you like

1372
01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:54.159
lose. So we were doing it
for like a four or five minutes still

1373
01:27:54.359 --> 01:27:55.920
Kim came out. I was like, why are you guys still playing this?

1374
01:27:56.039 --> 01:27:58.640
Like so we even failed yet so
well, and like so you're trying

1375
01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:02.720
to not hit the balls. See
five people attempting to not get their breakout

1376
01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:05.520
thing paddle to hit the balls,
but you just keep hitting them. And

1377
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:09.720
so we just kept going until it
supports up to you can identify up to

1378
01:28:09.840 --> 01:28:14.319
six. I can't. Yeah,
maybe maybe it was four was the most.

1379
01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:15.960
But so it does like it goes
through one of these things and either

1380
01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:18.520
there's a fail state or it's just
like all right, that's enough time and

1381
01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:25.960
then just loads up the next things. But not that manic. There was

1382
01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:28.840
more time to focus on each game. But the key is that at a

1383
01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:30.319
party, nobody's ever gonna get bored
of what they're doing because the next thing

1384
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:32.600
it's always gonna be coming up.
And because you don't have to worry about

1385
01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:35.159
like I'm player one, I'm player
two, you just jump in and just

1386
01:28:35.680 --> 01:28:40.119
do a thing. Like in the
Space Invaders one, like the score is

1387
01:28:40.199 --> 01:28:43.840
going up irrelevant of what's happening on
the screen. So if you're all missing

1388
01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:46.079
and not hitting any enemies, score
still going up. Was there any like

1389
01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:50.000
direct control avatar stuff, because that's
always the funnes stuff for any where,

1390
01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:55.439
just maker avatar, ripe the crowd
just always you okay, No, but

1391
01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:58.840
that that days flour one, Yeah, unbelievable. Which one is that it's

1392
01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:00.520
just like it's a bunch of cutouts
of all the people that are dancing,

1393
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:04.000
like two D cutouts, like doing
weird jerky animation stuff, but like it'll

1394
01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:08.079
focus on one guy in the middle, like doing a dance solo from time

1395
01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:10.279
to time, and just like you
have to see it. We got a

1396
01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:14.680
trailer up on the site that has
looks hot. Lava one is really good.

1397
01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:18.439
Toe's really good. Uh So yeah, that is that an unloadable game.

1398
01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:21.880
I don't they don't have date or
price. That's all fourth times.

1399
01:29:23.279 --> 01:29:27.479
It sounds like it's more or less
done. Uh yeah, yeah, that's

1400
01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:31.520
the impression that I got up the
Action Theater. It's worth It's probably worth

1401
01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:34.880
noting if you care that this is
the first project that Tim Shafer has headed

1402
01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:39.399
up since Brutal Legend. Yeah,
since they since they went like small game

1403
01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:43.159
crazy and it's it's goofy and I
feel like it makes really good use of

1404
01:29:43.279 --> 01:29:47.319
the connect tech from what I've seen, and it understands that listen to this.

1405
01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:50.840
You know this technology has significant limitations
and if you try and take it

1406
01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:55.000
too seriously, you know it's it's
not gonna be a fun time. So

1407
01:29:55.439 --> 01:29:59.880
just swinging take it as stupidly as
possible, so you can just jump around

1408
01:29:59.880 --> 01:30:02.159
like an idiot in front of your
TV and see funny stuff. And I

1409
01:30:02.319 --> 01:30:06.000
just like the idea, uh that
you like, I could just have this

1410
01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:09.880
running like throwing a party. It's
have this running on a TV in the

1411
01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:13.279
background. It's like people could like
walk up to it do something for a

1412
01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:15.600
while. It's not like you be
like, okay, everyone, we're gonna

1413
01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:17.920
play rock band now, so we
need we need you know, oh,

1414
01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:20.439
we need at least three people to
play oh jump into It's like no,

1415
01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:24.399
just walk up, do something stupid. And also if you're fun, yeah,

1416
01:30:24.439 --> 01:30:26.399
and if you're the only guy that
knows how to operate the system,

1417
01:30:26.399 --> 01:30:28.560
you're the one that has to do
all menus and like, let me set

1418
01:30:28.600 --> 01:30:30.199
it up for you again. Like
here, it's just it's just sign again.

1419
01:30:30.319 --> 01:30:33.760
Yeah, it's just like yeah,
just let it run and it'll cycle

1420
01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:36.640
from one thing to the next on
its own, so it doesn't even matter

1421
01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:40.239
if you're connected. Doesn't really fit
in your apartment, Like it's like it

1422
01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:44.680
because it's it's it's regardless. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, yeah

1423
01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:47.760
it's I from what I saw,
I consider that much more toy than game.

1424
01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:51.079
It's dumb in the best way possible. I think it's kind of funny

1425
01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:56.720
that a team there had to seriously
figure out how connect all works for Once

1426
01:30:56.800 --> 01:30:59.239
upon a Monster and then work out
all the bugs and make it work with

1427
01:30:59.359 --> 01:31:00.880
like three year old right, and
like kind of figure out how this is

1428
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:03.039
supposed to work. Like fuck,
like you were saying, like walking over

1429
01:31:03.079 --> 01:31:05.439
and we're like we're just having a
really tough time because it keeps on doing

1430
01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:09.520
this weird thing where five of me
will flick on the screen and do whatever

1431
01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:14.479
that's awesome, Like you think that, you think that like their bugs squishing

1432
01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:16.039
for once pond of monsters like okay, no, we wanted we know how

1433
01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:18.880
to do that accidentally. Yeah,
well no, I think it make that

1434
01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:23.039
on at some point that the overlap
had to happen, right, and just

1435
01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:28.079
one team completely frustrated with like connect
breaking any other team to feel like,

1436
01:31:28.079 --> 01:31:30.720
what did you guys do? Oh
we broke? It is just this look

1437
01:31:30.760 --> 01:31:33.800
at the skeleton on that that's awesome. We need that, we should do

1438
01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:36.159
that. Do that, and then
once team just hating the other team,

1439
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:43.239
hate you guys. It's like this
weird lamb prey. That's just the lag

1440
01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:45.479
is just terry. It's just like
we can't get over the lag. There's

1441
01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:48.279
lag. How do you enable the
lag? Yeah? Can you get We

1442
01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:54.319
were too much not do that.
You're saying that the Happy Action Theater team

1443
01:31:54.399 --> 01:31:58.399
was like the little bird in the
crocodile's mouth picking the meat out. Yes,

1444
01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:00.720
it's just the QA team just like
going through finding bugs and turning those

1445
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:03.640
into minias. One team being super
excited when everything was just mess up and

1446
01:32:03.680 --> 01:32:06.119
the other team being so like,
we gotta, we gotta, we have

1447
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:09.159
milestone coming up. What do you
what are we gonna do? We can't

1448
01:32:09.199 --> 01:32:12.680
get this to work. And that
was that all this six Then the sixth

1449
01:32:12.720 --> 01:32:16.760
one was the iOS game and Iowa, the app that has the Psychonauts.

1450
01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:20.239
The second of few words got commentary. Weirdly, Ron Gilbert program that.

1451
01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:24.560
Yeah, it's the first thing,
the first thing that he has done.

1452
01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:28.600
What is this? This is the
it Basically it's basically like all those like

1453
01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:34.119
the like the movies from Psychonauts with
commentary over it by Tim and Scott.

1454
01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:36.439
It's not actually a game, it's
just no, no, no, it's

1455
01:32:36.479 --> 01:32:40.720
just it's a free app. And
yeah, Ron Gerbot does all sorts of

1456
01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:44.199
Mac programming in his free time and
was goofing around with iOS and so we

1457
01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:46.199
just did it by himself. He's
working on something else that they're not talking

1458
01:32:46.239 --> 01:32:49.920
about yet, but that he just
did that. Guy like he's kind of

1459
01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:57.000
on board with them now they've been
actually full time double fun employees are okay,

1460
01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:00.359
But the way it's on the stuff, wait this on this stuff came

1461
01:33:00.399 --> 01:33:03.680
together, it's weird too, Like
the the costume quests like or it's Psychonauts

1462
01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:09.760
for so Psychonauts was ported by someone
at double Fine. But then like costum

1463
01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:14.359
Quest was like this angel investor.
That's just like a fan that programmed it

1464
01:33:14.399 --> 01:33:16.520
and contributed the money for this to
happen. And he's listened to the credits,

1465
01:33:16.560 --> 01:33:20.119
but it's just like one dude.
Wait so he actually because I got

1466
01:33:20.159 --> 01:33:24.600
the impression that they just got money
from someone to just develop it. It's

1467
01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:29.319
a dude. And like there's like
Tim Schaefer was like linking to the guy

1468
01:33:29.399 --> 01:33:32.439
on Twitter saying like here's the guy
that made this happen. Yeah, financially

1469
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:36.600
financial, Yeah okay, if I'm
not mistake, that's what that's. That's

1470
01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:40.319
what I mean is that they got
the money, not that he but but

1471
01:33:40.399 --> 01:33:43.079
it wasn't it was but it was
a fan like it wasn't like it was

1472
01:33:43.119 --> 01:33:45.319
a guy who got some money.
He's a little bank. They didn't go

1473
01:33:45.399 --> 01:33:48.000
to some business man like okay,
okay, I think the guy actually is

1474
01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:50.640
in fact a business man on top
of it, but yeah, probably,

1475
01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:54.239
but yes, but he didn't.
It's not like this guy said, hey,

1476
01:33:54.319 --> 01:33:57.960
guys, here, I brought you
this PC code for Costume Quest to

1477
01:33:57.960 --> 01:34:00.840
go ahead and put it out,
okay, I think yeah. Yeah.

1478
01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:03.399
Costume Quest is also like they're because
they owned that. I P and the

1479
01:34:03.479 --> 01:34:06.279
TCHQ worked with them on that,
and I remember them saying they wanted to

1480
01:34:06.279 --> 01:34:10.000
do PC versus A TACHQ was like, we're not gonna give you money for

1481
01:34:10.079 --> 01:34:12.560
it, So they found their own
way to do it, and that's self

1482
01:34:12.600 --> 01:34:16.600
publishing. So that's all their money. So it's publishing Happy Action Theater too.

1483
01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:19.159
No, I think that's Microsoft.
That's an nicest thing. Okay,

1484
01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:24.680
but yeah, Psychonauts and Costume Quests
and then the app those are three self

1485
01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:28.119
published Double Fine things, so they're
kind of we're stacking a little fall suit.

1486
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:30.840
That's Microsoft. I think stacking is
THQ as well, was it?

1487
01:34:31.680 --> 01:34:35.399
Yeah? Maybe? Yeah. So
any date on the Happy Action stuff,

1488
01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:40.119
that's just I think they said this
year, really is that so many much

1489
01:34:40.199 --> 01:34:43.760
time left this year? It's true? Uh so, yeah, that was

1490
01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:46.079
the Double Fine event, some some
fun stuff that, Yeah, curious see

1491
01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:48.760
more of the Happy Action Theater.
It was really cool to just have them

1492
01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:54.399
running their own event, like no
external publisher they're calling any shots. It

1493
01:34:54.520 --> 01:34:56.560
was just like, hey, very
casual, we are going to bring in

1494
01:34:56.640 --> 01:34:59.880
a keg of this homebred beer that
we have someone here beer drink it.

1495
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:01.239
You're gonna hang out and play these
games in our office, and it's gonna

1496
01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:05.720
be cool, or it's gonna be
just don't walk in that direction. That

1497
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:09.920
don't walk in that direction. But
otherwise it's cool. It was just super

1498
01:35:09.960 --> 01:35:11.880
casual. It's really it was a
lot of fun. If you go down

1499
01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:15.279
there, it's bad. They seemed
happy to be doing that over Yeah,

1500
01:35:15.359 --> 01:35:18.199
it's for their passing endeavor. Yeah, it's been a rough couple of years,

1501
01:35:18.239 --> 01:35:21.119
but I think there seems like they're
definitely on a path that makes all

1502
01:35:21.119 --> 01:35:26.880
them trajectory. Yeah, Tim,
apologize for calling you a child. Well,

1503
01:35:27.399 --> 01:35:30.680
you know, it's not the first
time it's happened, Patrick, What

1504
01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:32.680
else have you been playing? My
friends saw Max Pain three a couple of

1505
01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:38.000
weeks ago, Okay, and that
looks like Max Paint three. Yeah.

1506
01:35:38.119 --> 01:35:41.159
Do you hold how many guns can
you hold? Well? You can hold

1507
01:35:41.520 --> 01:35:44.520
well, you can only hold three
weapons at once now, so you can

1508
01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:46.520
have two pistols and like a shotgun, or two pistoles and a sniper rifle.

1509
01:35:46.640 --> 01:35:50.439
Okay, sold a pistol and a
shotgun. No, well, not

1510
01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:55.239
not in this not at the same
time. Okay, the game does have

1511
01:35:55.520 --> 01:36:00.560
sequences in New York City. Yeah, So the demo I saw basically sounded

1512
01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:03.039
like backing up when the game was
unveiled in Game of Former what like a

1513
01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:06.439
year and a half ago, a
while ago. It was basically, you

1514
01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:10.319
know, all right, it's Max
and it's a new voice actor, Like

1515
01:36:10.359 --> 01:36:15.720
it wasn't the original the guy originally
his name is escaping me anyone, remember,

1516
01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:20.560
No, the voice actor Maximilian Pain. Correct, it was different voice

1517
01:36:20.560 --> 01:36:26.239
actor. It's gonna be in Brazil
like new setting, and it was a

1518
01:36:26.359 --> 01:36:29.359
very rock star like, hey,
we're taking this franchise, We're we're putting

1519
01:36:29.359 --> 01:36:30.800
our own print imprint on it,
kind of like they did with you know,

1520
01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:33.840
Red Dead Redemption was Red Dead Revolver. They bought that off Capcom,

1521
01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:40.199
and fans were like, no,
like I don't I don't like any of

1522
01:36:40.279 --> 01:36:45.239
this. I want more baby screaming
and pain. Yeah, and and so

1523
01:36:45.359 --> 01:36:47.880
so this tour u this the first
time they're really showing the game, basically

1524
01:36:47.920 --> 01:36:50.880
felt like an apology tour, like
maybe all this stuff was already in the

1525
01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:54.800
game and they just decided they wanted
to show this is our rock Star part

1526
01:36:54.920 --> 01:36:57.279
and all that stuff. Don't worry, we're gonna get in there. But

1527
01:36:57.399 --> 01:37:00.600
like the demo starts like even as
I was sitting down there, So,

1528
01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:03.800
so what do you know about this
game? Because basically trying to figure out

1529
01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:06.880
what my misconceptions were and trying to
trying to correct them. And the game

1530
01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:11.359
like starts in New York, and
he's got the leather jacket and he's got

1531
01:37:11.439 --> 01:37:14.640
the you know, the the the
winey, he's got the hair. He's

1532
01:37:14.720 --> 01:37:18.359
drunk, he's taking pain killers.
He's he's not a very happy man.

1533
01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:21.680
He's a very very broken person.
But yeah, it starts on end gangsters

1534
01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:25.800
just show up at your apartment and
start shooting at you. So a max

1535
01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:29.319
pain game. Yeah, it sounds
like it's got the violins and so it's

1536
01:37:29.600 --> 01:37:34.800
it's it's got the slow motion and
yeah, I mean it's comic book panels.

1537
01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:39.079
Comic panels have been it's not like
the stylistic drawn stuff, and now

1538
01:37:39.159 --> 01:37:42.479
it's like in real like the in
game graphics. It just divides them up

1539
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:45.520
and it happens more often now,
so like you'll be finished a compet is

1540
01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:49.199
stuff like actually in motion in those
things or okay, yeah, it's kind

1541
01:37:49.239 --> 01:37:53.920
of the natural. Like I don't
think rock Stars much more what they did

1542
01:37:53.960 --> 01:37:57.600
in Max Pain one and two now
for the especially for what rock Star likes

1543
01:37:57.640 --> 01:37:59.920
to do with their stories, Like
it's just not it's much. I mean,

1544
01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:01.319
it's I think it's going to be
fantastical in some sense, but it's

1545
01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:04.600
rock Star is a bit more grounded. But it seems less from what I've

1546
01:38:04.640 --> 01:38:09.159
seen, And it's not that much
seems less noir. It seems like it's

1547
01:38:09.239 --> 01:38:14.399
moved past the kind of like very
darkly lit and like very sparsely lit,

1548
01:38:14.560 --> 01:38:19.039
kind of high contrast dark noir.
Tailed this didn't show. So they showed

1549
01:38:19.039 --> 01:38:21.119
me like a first like fifteen minute
in New York, which was just to

1550
01:38:21.159 --> 01:38:24.359
say like, hey, New York
is here, and there's a big chunk

1551
01:38:24.359 --> 01:38:27.119
of it in the game, but
that's not what we want. That's you

1552
01:38:27.159 --> 01:38:30.560
know, that's not the big shifts
winter. It's winter, and so you

1553
01:38:30.680 --> 01:38:33.800
go to Brazil. But even in
Brazil they were quick to be like,

1554
01:38:33.960 --> 01:38:36.479
so we know the people when they
look at the Brazil they're like, hey,

1555
01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:39.960
this is really bright. That's not
really Max Paint. There's plenty of

1556
01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:42.239
dark stuff. So they didn't show
me any of that, but they were

1557
01:38:42.279 --> 01:38:45.720
like very insistent there's going to be
all the noir stuff. It's just I

1558
01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:47.640
don't know why they're not showing it. I mean, the game was out

1559
01:38:47.640 --> 01:38:51.760
in March. Theoretically, it's I
mean when we saw that trailer, when

1560
01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:56.920
we saw that new trailer, I
mean also, it just didn't look like

1561
01:38:57.079 --> 01:38:59.920
if you took away the sound and
the like, if you took away the

1562
01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:01.760
the music and the voice actor,
I was like, this doesn't Why is

1563
01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:05.520
this a Max a Pain game?
Because bullet time isn't really like a unique

1564
01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:09.439
feature anymore. I mean I'd argue
at this point, not when's the last

1565
01:39:09.479 --> 01:39:13.560
time that the game really used strangle? Yeah, and that game wasn't just

1566
01:39:13.720 --> 01:39:16.600
a Max Pain clone. Yeah,
you mean just like acrobatic bullet times.

1567
01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:19.000
Yeah, like made that the focus
of the gameplay. So even though it's

1568
01:39:19.039 --> 01:39:25.560
been done and it's kind of I
think the last one that it's it is

1569
01:39:25.760 --> 01:39:28.680
unique again. Yeah. The one
wrinkle they've added is that when you're close

1570
01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:30.039
to death, you'll go into a
slow motion sequence, and if you take

1571
01:39:30.079 --> 01:39:32.479
out the guy in front of you, you'll get some sliver health back so

1572
01:39:32.560 --> 01:39:36.039
you can keep going. But otherwise
the slow motion stuff is kind of the

1573
01:39:36.079 --> 01:39:39.239
same as it was. I mean, you know, they've got all sorts

1574
01:39:39.279 --> 01:39:43.239
of really interesting graphical touches. Like
they got both the like the the jump

1575
01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:46.039
as well as the just like trigger
it the way that Max Pain two has.

1576
01:39:46.159 --> 01:39:49.279
Yeah, you can just be walking
and do or you can do the

1577
01:39:49.399 --> 01:39:56.079
really awkward die over. I always
jump, yeah, always. I would

1578
01:39:56.079 --> 01:40:00.000
never use the just press the button. That's no fun. I got pretty

1579
01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:04.520
good at diving onto couches while holding
two pistols in real life practice. Yeah,

1580
01:40:04.560 --> 01:40:08.079
would you put on the violin music
as you were No, I didn't

1581
01:40:08.119 --> 01:40:12.920
mean so it has a dive and
then kind of like swing or torsto around

1582
01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:15.520
yep, to shoot everybody yep,
twists yep. Yeah. I mean,

1583
01:40:15.680 --> 01:40:18.640
like I could go through the litany
of like smaller details that they were focusing

1584
01:40:18.680 --> 01:40:23.399
on, like you know, like
the like they you know, done some

1585
01:40:23.479 --> 01:40:26.439
really amazing things the animation system,
like in terms of way Max moves,

1586
01:40:26.479 --> 01:40:29.520
like even on the ground when he's
like twisting around, like each joint is

1587
01:40:29.600 --> 01:40:33.079
moving realistically, but like in broad
strokes like it's it's Max Pain three,

1588
01:40:33.359 --> 01:40:36.399
like it's got like a rock star
flare to it, but more so than

1589
01:40:36.439 --> 01:40:41.600
any other game, Like they they
don't seem to be trying to stray too

1590
01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:45.319
far from like they're putting their stamp
on it. But it's not. You

1591
01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:48.720
know, I still I still don't
totally get why, like they had to

1592
01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:53.079
do this good have just done a
new ip. It's just because the way

1593
01:40:53.119 --> 01:40:56.399
they presented it was a very unrocked
they like they don't apologize, right like

1594
01:40:56.520 --> 01:40:59.600
this, this is what we're doing. Go screw yourself exactly, and and

1595
01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:00.920
and this is very much like,
hey, we've talked to Remedy. You

1596
01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:02.840
know, we showed them the game. They seemed to like it, so

1597
01:41:03.399 --> 01:41:06.720
that's cool, right, Like it
just it was just very awkward for I

1598
01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:09.760
think it's you know, well,
yeah, I mean it it's hard to

1599
01:41:09.800 --> 01:41:12.359
say, like the father behave that
way, but if you think about it,

1600
01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:15.720
like for better for worse, like
rock Star doesn't really care about its

1601
01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:20.880
creators and its creations, so giving
that respect to the creators of Max Pain

1602
01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:25.439
maybe makes sense in that content.
Yeah, I mean I guess technically that.

1603
01:41:25.520 --> 01:41:27.800
I mean, rock Star was involved
in rocks Pain one and two,

1604
01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:30.319
like it was a take two game, but rock Star was like the production

1605
01:41:30.399 --> 01:41:32.199
house, especially especially by Max Pain
two. It was you know, just

1606
01:41:32.479 --> 01:41:35.359
rock Star logos all over it.
Yeah, so, I mean one of

1607
01:41:35.399 --> 01:41:40.199
the Houser brothers is co wrote or
wrote most of the story and this one,

1608
01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:44.319
but they didn't really lab and they
also they also were pushing that the

1609
01:41:44.399 --> 01:41:47.119
notion this is like one of their
first like really like it. They weren't

1610
01:41:47.119 --> 01:41:50.760
even assigning one studio to this game, like they were saying, this is

1611
01:41:51.239 --> 01:41:56.119
all of the rock Star divisions contributing
bits to this, Like it's really it

1612
01:41:56.199 --> 01:42:00.159
sounds really spread out, weird across
the studios. I wonder if that was

1613
01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:01.560
the plan all along, or if
I mean, because this game has been

1614
01:42:01.560 --> 01:42:03.960
in development for a while, I
wonder if it just went real sideways with

1615
01:42:04.039 --> 01:42:06.439
the way they were doing it and
like, okay, we had a call

1616
01:42:06.479 --> 01:42:10.239
in everyone on this one to get
it finished. Yeah, like I I

1617
01:42:10.399 --> 01:42:12.600
yeah, I almost. I almost
wonder if, like after the weird like

1618
01:42:12.680 --> 01:42:15.239
rejection from the fans after the first
unveiling, that maybe there was a attempt

1619
01:42:15.319 --> 01:42:18.359
to pull it back a little think
or something, and that in order to

1620
01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:21.479
make that turnaround happen in the year
and a half it's been, I think

1621
01:42:21.520 --> 01:42:26.159
since that's first unveiling, and they
were very much committed to the March date.

1622
01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:28.560
So and that's the end of the
you know, fiscal for take two.

1623
01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:31.439
So I guess is that game is
going to come out before the Internet.

1624
01:42:31.479 --> 01:42:34.159
So I'm ready to I'm willing to
give it a chance. Yeah,

1625
01:42:34.159 --> 01:42:36.479
I don't I don't want to make
Yeah, it looks like Max Pain sound

1626
01:42:36.520 --> 01:42:39.880
like a bad thing, like you
know, it's it. That's fine.

1627
01:42:39.880 --> 01:42:43.479
I'm fine with another Max Pain.
And they it should be. It's it

1628
01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:46.640
looked fun that trailer, like seeing
like just straight up shaving his head or

1629
01:42:46.760 --> 01:42:51.119
whatever, like like going through that
transition. I think makes that way cooler

1630
01:42:51.479 --> 01:42:55.560
than just putting out a screenshot of
here's Max Pain. You don't recognize the

1631
01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:58.239
guy in all and they and they
kind of copped to like that was a

1632
01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:00.920
bad like that the way they reveal, you know, the way they kind

1633
01:43:00.920 --> 01:43:02.600
of showed their their hands. They
thought they were being bold and instead they

1634
01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:05.600
just hadn't explained, like you know, there's like a whole that happens hours

1635
01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:09.680
into the game. You're gonna see
why he does that, why he makes

1636
01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:12.600
that transition. Because when they first
when they first unveiled, it just seemed

1637
01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:15.119
like, oh, just like needless, like we wanted to make the character

1638
01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:16.960
look different, so this is as
different because he looks like a real dude

1639
01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:19.479
who works here and they're not working
on it, so like, yeah,

1640
01:43:19.479 --> 01:43:24.159
it almost so. But if there's
like a character like plot motivation, like

1641
01:43:24.279 --> 01:43:26.880
kind of heart of Darkness, you
know, things going on, it's not

1642
01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:29.560
like the opening cut scene like they're
beening cut scene is in New York and

1643
01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:31.399
there's a reason you go from New
York to Brazil, and there's a reason

1644
01:43:31.479 --> 01:43:35.680
that he eventually shaves his head and
tell me that Max Pain feels a need

1645
01:43:35.760 --> 01:43:41.720
to shave his head, Like shit, that can't be good. Happen.

1646
01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:45.640
It will continue to happen. The
old character of Max Pain was kind of

1647
01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:48.439
like a stagnant archetype at this point, like totally French co wearing war detective

1648
01:43:48.479 --> 01:43:53.159
guy, and you're giving him like
a new arc to follow and made a

1649
01:43:53.439 --> 01:43:57.960
game that has the title already so
they don't need, you know, And

1650
01:43:58.079 --> 01:44:00.680
and two is such like they broke
the fourth wall, like every twenty minutes

1651
01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:05.119
like that. My favorite sequence is
when the game acknowledges that it's it's it's

1652
01:44:05.159 --> 01:44:10.319
Max Paine watching himself in a video
game and acknowledging the weirdness of watching a

1653
01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:14.800
player control him. I think that
game got super weird, like the best

1654
01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:17.239
way possible. And I know you
you didn't ask them this, but I

1655
01:44:17.600 --> 01:44:23.119
just I hope there's some address unknown
stuff in there, just even just a

1656
01:44:23.279 --> 01:44:27.039
little bit, because that the stuff
they didn't too with with that was so

1657
01:44:27.239 --> 01:44:29.319
fucking good. Yeah they did.
They did tell me how much of that

1658
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:31.960
is remedy like, like right,
if that's if that's a remedy trademark,

1659
01:44:33.640 --> 01:44:38.600
right, So I wonder if it
would it would be out of place or

1660
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:42.680
weird for them to do anything like
that. I mean, if remedy sign

1661
01:44:43.560 --> 01:44:45.640
it is a total like remedy touch
like, that's clearly one of the things

1662
01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:48.680
they like to do. Are there
going to be entire movies I can watch?

1663
01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:53.319
And I loved it so much?
Another great opportunity for ghosts Mars.

1664
01:44:54.159 --> 01:44:57.600
Let me watch all of ghost Mars
just walking to television. The Houses already

1665
01:44:57.640 --> 01:44:59.520
owned the rights to it, they
bought it years ago. It's true,

1666
01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:04.119
not a lot of people know that. I wish that was true. They

1667
01:45:04.119 --> 01:45:08.560
actually hate it. They just wanted
to just get it so that nobody else

1668
01:45:08.640 --> 01:45:11.920
can watch the whole story of g
T A four is basically just a retelling

1669
01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:13.760
of Ghosts of Mars. Yep,
not a lot of people know that.

1670
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:19.880
Patrick anything else. Now we cover
pretty much everything else. There's a cool

1671
01:45:19.920 --> 01:45:23.760
iPhone game that peoples to check out
called Major Gauntlet. It's the game that

1672
01:45:23.880 --> 01:45:28.000
was making the rounds of a while
ago. It looks like Secret Amna Ormana

1673
01:45:29.199 --> 01:45:38.920
Banana. Uh it comes out next
week? Yeah, Mana Manyana. Secret

1674
01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:42.279
of Manana comes out tomorrow. No, next week, Okay, doesn't come

1675
01:45:42.319 --> 01:45:45.720
out Manyana. So you can then
said that you're talking about. Uh,

1676
01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:49.000
well cool, what do you guys
think about taking a break? Yeah?

1677
01:45:49.079 --> 01:45:53.640
Whatever, all right, we'll take
a quick break and we'll come back momentarily

1678
01:45:53.720 --> 01:46:28.439
with more of the Giant Bodcast.
And we're back. Jeff Gerstman. Hello,

1679
01:46:28.600 --> 01:46:30.119
how's it going. It's going great. I want to talk about Batman

1680
01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:34.239
Annie, Yeah, okay, Batman's
out. Batman is out. Arkham City.

1681
01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:40.000
People are banning a second Batman game
for all intents and purposes. Batman

1682
01:46:40.119 --> 01:46:43.439
two. Yeah, Batman two,
it is better than Batman one. You

1683
01:46:43.479 --> 01:46:47.319
should play Batman two five stars.
Okay. Uh, it's it's a it's

1684
01:46:47.359 --> 01:46:49.279
a it's a really great game.
Yeah. Do you want to talk at

1685
01:46:49.279 --> 01:46:54.680
all about this because you've got a
review of a review. Yeah, there's

1686
01:46:54.720 --> 01:46:59.720
there's there's now three separate ways.
You can hear you read me saying stuff

1687
01:46:59.720 --> 01:47:01.079
about Batman. So, you know, maybe we'll keep it brief. But

1688
01:47:02.880 --> 01:47:06.359
one thing I wonder, how much, uh the game was first game is

1689
01:47:06.359 --> 01:47:09.800
amazing. Seems like it's like one
is amazing too. How much is that

1690
01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:14.600
because Rocksteady is just doing something so
different than anybody else that them just kind

1691
01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:17.239
of doing that that similar things again
is just totally fine. That is a

1692
01:47:17.239 --> 01:47:20.039
big kind of like Assassin's Creed kind
of gets away with the same thing where

1693
01:47:20.039 --> 01:47:25.119
it doesn't have to totally change things
because it's so different than everyth doesn't feel

1694
01:47:25.159 --> 01:47:28.239
like it's getting away with anything.
Okay, I'll say that much like it

1695
01:47:28.359 --> 01:47:30.159
is very similar, Like the game
is not dramatically different. You know,

1696
01:47:30.199 --> 01:47:33.760
they have built onto the combat system
in some really smart ways, you know,

1697
01:47:33.880 --> 01:47:38.439
more traversal stuff to to make sense
of the kind of larger world that

1698
01:47:38.479 --> 01:47:42.239
you're navigating. But you know,
it's it's a very linear path through the

1699
01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:45.520
main story. The side missions are
very kind of compartmentalized off to the side.

1700
01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:47.039
It's not it's not an open world. It's not it's not an open

1701
01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:53.800
world in the traditional sense. Yeah, even like the seemingly random acts of

1702
01:47:54.279 --> 01:47:57.279
political prisoners getting beat up, like
show up on your map and it's like,

1703
01:47:57.359 --> 01:47:59.079
here's where you go for this,
here's where you go for that,

1704
01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:04.319
and that helps them avoid political prisoners. It's it's they have to. So

1705
01:48:04.439 --> 01:48:08.399
the whole game takes place in Arkham
City, which is a mega prison.

1706
01:48:08.399 --> 01:48:10.600
They've taken a section of the city, condemned it, turned it into a

1707
01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:14.079
gigantic prison. So in order if
they're to be innocent people that you have

1708
01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:16.239
to help. Someone at some point
had to contrive like, oh, well,

1709
01:48:16.239 --> 01:48:20.399
what do we call these guys?
Because the whole criminal scum, But

1710
01:48:20.600 --> 01:48:24.840
why would Batman save these guys?
Like well, what if the subtitles like

1711
01:48:25.319 --> 01:48:27.720
and it's it's only says it like
in the subtitles, like what if it

1712
01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:30.640
said political prisoner? Like, yeah, okay, that could be. And

1713
01:48:30.680 --> 01:48:33.239
there's a couple of cut scenes where
you talk to these guys and they're like,

1714
01:48:33.640 --> 01:48:36.319
I was just working on his calm
system and then he threw me in

1715
01:48:36.479 --> 01:48:41.359
here for no good reason. Hugo
strange running this whole thing, right,

1716
01:48:41.479 --> 01:48:45.159
So it's kind of corrupt from the
top down exactly, so they have to

1717
01:48:45.279 --> 01:48:47.760
like make these distinctions so that the
people you're saving are not bad people.

1718
01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:54.279
Also, its right, so they
say, I don't know, they're just

1719
01:48:54.319 --> 01:49:00.600
political prisoners. They could exactly yeah
bus or something. Yeah, who knows.

1720
01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:02.640
So yeah, it is similar in
a lot of ways. And I

1721
01:49:02.680 --> 01:49:04.800
think, yeah, they do kind
of get by because like, no one

1722
01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:09.520
else is making a game like this, you know, no one else has

1723
01:49:09.800 --> 01:49:14.439
really emulated this combat system to this
extent. Yeah, Captain America did try

1724
01:49:14.479 --> 01:49:17.319
to Captain America like like a reasonably
good attempt at kind of aping some of

1725
01:49:17.399 --> 01:49:20.359
that stuff, I guess, but
also probably shows how hard it is to

1726
01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:25.119
do it as well as rock Steady
does exactly. Yeah, So you know,

1727
01:49:25.399 --> 01:49:27.399
and it's it's a it's a great
looking game like that. You know,

1728
01:49:27.399 --> 01:49:31.279
they've increased the scope of it,
uh in really cool ways. And

1729
01:49:31.439 --> 01:49:34.319
the story is is a lot of
fun like it It's it's kind of back

1730
01:49:34.359 --> 01:49:39.840
heavy, like a not a ton
of super important stuff happens at the beginning,

1731
01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:42.840
but once it all starts all unfolding
at the end here it's kind of

1732
01:49:42.880 --> 01:49:45.399
fucked up. It's real bank bank
bang, like oh shit, oh shit,

1733
01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:48.880
oh shit, as these things happen. So that's that's pretty cool.

1734
01:49:49.319 --> 01:49:55.079
That's that that two hour spoiler that
everybody got all insensed about, totally meaningless,

1735
01:49:55.159 --> 01:50:00.279
totally totally the dumbest thing ever.
Stuff. Yeah yeah, like that

1736
01:50:00.399 --> 01:50:06.239
stuff is resolved literally four seconds after
it happens in the games. So why

1737
01:50:06.319 --> 01:50:10.720
which is why the guy was so
quick to turn the Xbox off right when

1738
01:50:10.720 --> 01:50:13.239
I saw the first part of that
happen. Yeah, yeah, that was

1739
01:50:13.319 --> 01:50:16.840
the I think that's they kind of
did themselves at this service aboutever, maybe

1740
01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:19.319
not every it got everyone talking about
the game, so I guess, you

1741
01:50:19.399 --> 01:50:23.479
know, probably Mission accomplished on their
part in one sense. But yeah,

1742
01:50:23.560 --> 01:50:25.920
like the game didn't need that.
The game didn't need it exactly. It

1743
01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:29.520
comes commis as gimmicky for a game
that is just legitimately great. Kind of

1744
01:50:29.560 --> 01:50:31.319
the gimmicky part, though, is
the way they've handled their online pass stuff,

1745
01:50:32.319 --> 01:50:36.159
And so what they've done is Catwoman
is only playable if you enter the

1746
01:50:36.199 --> 01:50:40.960
code or give them ten dollars.
And the weird part about that is is

1747
01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:44.399
not challenge room stuff. You do
get that as well, but there are

1748
01:50:44.399 --> 01:50:47.399
actually four Catwoman chapters set in the
middle of the game. You know,

1749
01:50:47.479 --> 01:50:50.479
kind of one real early on,
like like spread throughout the game basically where

1750
01:50:50.479 --> 01:50:53.960
you are playing as Catwoman, and
that stuff is kind of woven into the

1751
01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:58.640
story, you know, you it
intersects with Batman's story in kind of meaningful

1752
01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:00.880
ways. It's not rate if I
had to pick a point of the game

1753
01:51:00.920 --> 01:51:03.000
and say, like, this is
the part they should have not put in,

1754
01:51:03.479 --> 01:51:06.880
it actually probably would be some of
that Catwoman stuff, because she's just

1755
01:51:08.159 --> 01:51:12.600
a limited version of Batman, Like
she plays almost exactly the same, but

1756
01:51:13.199 --> 01:51:15.439
just as fewer options. I've come
to play as Batman, Yeah, exactly,

1757
01:51:15.720 --> 01:51:18.479
Yes, you're here. You're here
for Batman. I'm not playing Catwoman

1758
01:51:19.039 --> 01:51:23.640
Arkham City. And it's kind of
annoying because you actually have to upgrade Catwoman

1759
01:51:23.680 --> 01:51:27.239
separately. So if you've put all
your points into upgrading Batman as you should

1760
01:51:27.560 --> 01:51:30.560
and getting you know, ballistic armor
to reduce you know, bullet damage and

1761
01:51:30.600 --> 01:51:32.960
reduce melee damage with the other type
of armor upgrade, then by the time

1762
01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:35.920
you get to the final Catwoman chapter, you have not spent any points on

1763
01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:40.680
her, and you're a room full
of guys you know, the same same

1764
01:51:40.720 --> 01:51:43.560
set of points that you're set.
Yeah, so yeah, and they're and

1765
01:51:43.600 --> 01:51:46.119
they're not there's they're cut up.
They're not sequential as Catwoman like you go

1766
01:51:46.239 --> 01:51:49.239
bounce back and forth. Right,
Okay, so it's like spread out throughout

1767
01:51:49.239 --> 01:51:51.960
the game. Yes, what would
you So I actually had to a new

1768
01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:57.159
game, but I actually had to
finish the game and then go so guy

1769
01:51:57.279 --> 01:52:00.439
to basically like do new game,
plus start level up a couple of times,

1770
01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:04.680
spend those upgrade points on Catwoman,
and then go back into my other

1771
01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:09.279
game. Oh, the levels are
persistent regardless of Yes, where you're out

1772
01:52:09.279 --> 01:52:12.479
in the story. Can you also
grind those stuff out in the challenge rooms?

1773
01:52:12.479 --> 01:52:15.000
You get any experience in there?
I don't believe so, so you

1774
01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:18.880
basically you were grinding Batman. Yeah, I play the early parts of the

1775
01:52:18.920 --> 01:52:21.760
story. Again. I mean there's
there's a there's a finite amount of potential

1776
01:52:21.800 --> 01:52:25.720
in the world to gain experience,
right, those guys response, so yeah

1777
01:52:25.800 --> 01:52:28.199
you can, So you could run
around with can't run around and just beat

1778
01:52:28.239 --> 01:52:32.319
people up and get Yeah, XP, yes you could do that. Uh

1779
01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:34.399
what do you what do you?
What did you say? Like? Total

1780
01:52:34.520 --> 01:52:40.079
run time playing with Catwoman is like, oh, with Catwoman, that's maybe

1781
01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:43.399
an hour and a half or something
like that. Okay, like throughout the

1782
01:52:43.680 --> 01:52:46.920
full game, these four sequences,
but this is the thing that you you're

1783
01:52:46.960 --> 01:52:50.319
getting the code for new in the
box with the game, where if you

1784
01:52:50.399 --> 01:52:55.239
don't have that, those sequences are
just just missing. Which is crazy because

1785
01:52:55.319 --> 01:52:57.840
there's you know, it's it's really
only kind of one scene, and I

1786
01:52:57.960 --> 01:53:00.560
didn't see how it plays out without
Catwoman, so I can't really speak to

1787
01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:02.600
that stuff. But there's but I
can, I can kind of guess how

1788
01:53:02.600 --> 01:53:06.720
it would play out. But it's
it's the stuff where Catwoman is basically,

1789
01:53:08.039 --> 01:53:11.560
you know, helping Batman out of
a bind, and if you're doing the

1790
01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:14.960
stuff leading up to that and seeing
the motivations there, like the story payoff

1791
01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:19.279
is is better than than any of
the gameplay stuff, and and that's that's

1792
01:53:19.359 --> 01:53:23.479
kind of unfortunate, and it's it's
weird because it actually has a download at

1793
01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:27.079
least on three sixty uh like that
it's not on the disc. It's like,

1794
01:53:27.600 --> 01:53:30.960
so I then sit there and wait
for three hundred megas of stuff to

1795
01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:35.920
download before I can start playing Batman, which is like lame. Yeah,

1796
01:53:36.119 --> 01:53:39.560
that's weird, Like that would be
the thing I would expect to be.

1797
01:53:39.680 --> 01:53:44.399
You're on disc yeah thing. Yeah
right, it's weird. It makes me

1798
01:53:44.520 --> 01:53:47.119
question how that wound up all happened. It's also it's also because they just

1799
01:53:47.159 --> 01:53:50.319
haven't communicated, like I think a
lot of the backlashes because they haven't communicated

1800
01:53:50.399 --> 01:53:54.600
that this was going to be like
an optional thing. Yeah. I think

1801
01:53:54.800 --> 01:53:57.119
he said it was like the big
reveals, like you could play as Catwoman

1802
01:53:57.239 --> 01:54:00.279
and all that stuff, and like
if they had set up front going to

1803
01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:02.319
add a Catwoman, it's gonna be
our online pass. It's gonna be like

1804
01:54:02.600 --> 01:54:06.279
the reason. It's the bait and
switch that pisses people off. And it's

1805
01:54:06.319 --> 01:54:10.119
not like if you if this had
been part of the message with the game

1806
01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:13.239
for a while, the putting Catwoman
weaving into the story, but it's also

1807
01:54:13.439 --> 01:54:16.239
online pass and this had been E
three Yeah, no one, no one

1808
01:54:16.319 --> 01:54:19.680
would care. But it's because a
week before Catwoman's a big part of the

1809
01:54:19.760 --> 01:54:23.079
game and then all of a sudden, all by the way, it's part

1810
01:54:23.119 --> 01:54:27.279
of our you know, anti used
game policy. People like everyone's gonna buy

1811
01:54:27.319 --> 01:54:30.880
the new version anyway. It's because
people feel burned that this is happening a

1812
01:54:30.960 --> 01:54:33.560
week before the game comes out,
and it's just by the way, no

1813
01:54:33.680 --> 01:54:38.520
big deal. And also apparently GameStop
is just printing versions of the codes and

1814
01:54:38.640 --> 01:54:41.560
putting them in the used copies,
which is like a policy they do with

1815
01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:44.560
some games. They must they must
just have to work that out. They

1816
01:54:44.600 --> 01:54:46.199
work that out with the publisher.
But so even if you buy used copy,

1817
01:54:46.560 --> 01:54:49.880
I don't know how long that goes
on for, but it will come

1818
01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:54.920
with a unique code inside. That
is like, that is maybe one of

1819
01:54:54.960 --> 01:54:58.319
the most fucked up things ever because
the publisher is creating this system in the

1820
01:54:58.359 --> 01:55:05.560
first place, ostensibly to stop use
game sales, then turning around and can't

1821
01:55:05.560 --> 01:55:12.640
do that and people aren't buying it
used and exactly game stop is obviously paying

1822
01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:15.520
for it and making a sense for
them, but at some point it's like,

1823
01:55:15.600 --> 01:55:19.960
why don't we just agree to do
away with it? Is it sounds

1824
01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:23.439
like one of the most atrocious things
I've heard come out of this industry.

1825
01:55:23.880 --> 01:55:27.319
Atrocious things come out of this industry
that makes you really upset that that's the

1826
01:55:27.359 --> 01:55:30.840
weird way of getting paying your way
out of Like this is hurting our sales

1827
01:55:30.880 --> 01:55:32.760
in this one department. Please stop
doing this, Okay, let's make this

1828
01:55:32.840 --> 01:55:35.960
side room deal. That's basically like, but if the side room deal is

1829
01:55:36.119 --> 01:55:40.880
game Stop kicks down money to publishers
for their used game sales and leaves us

1830
01:55:40.960 --> 01:55:44.760
out of it. That's what everyone
wants to happen. It's just the GameStop

1831
01:55:44.840 --> 01:55:47.119
says, look, we pay you, like Riley being these weird code nonsense,

1832
01:55:47.239 --> 01:55:50.479
like just ever use game sale apportion
goes to the publisher, and it

1833
01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:54.640
does, then we don't have to
deal with the bullshit like it if they

1834
01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:56.840
would just work it out. This
is a weird way of them working it

1835
01:55:56.880 --> 01:56:00.159
out with also having the bullecific Yeah, yeah, oh, the whole thing

1836
01:56:00.279 --> 01:56:04.640
just yeah, it's it's backward backwards, but it's not as malevolent as you

1837
01:56:04.800 --> 01:56:08.680
as you probably think it is.
Like the whole problem is a publisher not

1838
01:56:08.800 --> 01:56:13.520
realizing any profit from sales of use
games. Understand the problem is like should

1839
01:56:13.600 --> 01:56:17.560
they you know, I understand the
symptom of the disease, but like basically

1840
01:56:17.840 --> 01:56:26.439
trying to backslide this stuff into use
game copies seems ridiculous to me. Yeah,

1841
01:56:26.560 --> 01:56:28.840
I don't know. Is it my
problem? Your games are so expensive

1842
01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:30.840
and you charge sixty dollars for them? Not really, like that's the nature

1843
01:56:30.880 --> 01:56:34.560
of the industry. Like I I
just have I have trouble feeling bad from

1844
01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:38.119
a consumer angle, but I wish
they would just figure it out behind the

1845
01:56:38.119 --> 01:56:40.520
scenes rather than making it we're jump
through all these hoops or you know,

1846
01:56:40.640 --> 01:56:44.680
just like jump to the end game
and include just start, go the CD

1847
01:56:44.800 --> 01:56:46.680
key route, go the PC game
route, and just like here's your key.

1848
01:56:47.239 --> 01:56:49.399
If you won't play the game or
the key done. Well, I

1849
01:56:49.439 --> 01:56:54.279
mean that that is currently that's not
possible on the existing consoles, right,

1850
01:56:54.319 --> 01:57:00.920
the infrastructure is not there. Yeah, well ually is. Well, you're

1851
01:57:00.920 --> 01:57:03.319
talking about Steam style. Just straight
up, you buy this game, I

1852
01:57:03.479 --> 01:57:05.640
have it. You know, you
still on disks. I'm not saying I'm

1853
01:57:05.640 --> 01:57:09.159
not saying do the download part.
I am saying they should do the download

1854
01:57:09.199 --> 01:57:11.239
part of it. But let's be
reasonable. We're not there yet. Well,

1855
01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:13.479
I mean, what we're talking about
is divorcing a license to play the

1856
01:57:13.560 --> 01:57:16.000
game from the physical object that is
the game. Sure, and you know,

1857
01:57:16.239 --> 01:57:19.199
you know PC owners have gotten used
to this over the years, as

1858
01:57:19.279 --> 01:57:24.279
you know, it's it's just been
an ongoing it's been the ongoing fight against

1859
01:57:24.279 --> 01:57:26.399
piracy. You know, this is
just an evolved out of code wheels and

1860
01:57:26.439 --> 01:57:29.079
all that stuff. I mean,
it's it's what is becoming the old argument

1861
01:57:29.119 --> 01:57:31.760
about games as goods versus games as
services. Yeah, I just think it

1862
01:57:31.880 --> 01:57:34.000
just figured it out. I think
it's one of those things that it makes

1863
01:57:34.039 --> 01:57:39.279
me so annoyed because I feel like
the brick and mortar style stores are the

1864
01:57:39.319 --> 01:57:43.720
biggest roadblock to get in all digital. I'm sure there's a lot of lobbying

1865
01:57:43.840 --> 01:57:47.159
for them to not go all digital
and distribution. They'll be lobbying when it

1866
01:57:47.560 --> 01:57:51.920
finally happens. They'll be still pre
order bonuses from specific stores that get you

1867
01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:58.479
into those brick and mortar stores.
And to see them basically finding this backdoor

1868
01:57:58.640 --> 01:58:01.119
to get around this coats UF just
makes me feel like, fuck man,

1869
01:58:01.640 --> 01:58:05.960
somebody's hands are in somebody's pockets,
and like we just follow the money direct

1870
01:58:06.159 --> 01:58:10.720
to consumers and let's get rid of
all the pre order bonuses, these codes

1871
01:58:10.880 --> 01:58:18.600
whatever. Let me buy this game
physical establishments its own. It's basically where

1872
01:58:18.640 --> 01:58:23.479
they started. I mean, so
like now they have become like an incentive

1873
01:58:23.520 --> 01:58:28.000
to shop now that there are digital
distribution places like Amazon or even just you

1874
01:58:28.079 --> 01:58:30.760
know, buy it online, but
it's where it's started. But they're not

1875
01:58:30.800 --> 01:58:34.079
gonna go away even when everything goes
all online. No, no, still

1876
01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:38.960
want insteadive to buy your game from
from store wide and total stores each and

1877
01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:41.880
also and also to put the money
down before the game is out right.

1878
01:58:42.039 --> 01:58:45.640
But but it give me the option, uh to just download the game digitally

1879
01:58:46.119 --> 01:58:49.159
so that I can vote with my
dollar of where I want to get this

1880
01:58:49.319 --> 01:58:54.640
game. Uh, and then we'll
be done. We'll dry up, we'll

1881
01:58:54.720 --> 01:58:58.079
dry up the need for brick and
mortar stores. I can go buy a

1882
01:58:58.119 --> 01:59:00.640
guitar here or there if I want
to, Uh, But I don't need

1883
01:59:00.720 --> 01:59:04.920
to pre order because it's a digital
distribution model and the game might move,

1884
01:59:04.960 --> 01:59:09.439
the servers will be crowded, but
then we'll introduce preloading on them something at

1885
01:59:09.520 --> 01:59:14.199
some time. I'm just all these
fucking vaudeville hoops and circuses to get me

1886
01:59:14.279 --> 01:59:17.720
into a store. Yeah, it's
it's insane, and there's there is a

1887
01:59:17.760 --> 01:59:23.359
good business reason they're still prioritizing brick
and mortar sales because of holidays, because

1888
01:59:25.039 --> 01:59:28.479
gigantic bulk of sales occur. There's
still a meaningful number of consoles that aren't

1889
01:59:28.479 --> 01:59:30.000
even connected to the internet. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm not saying that

1890
01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:34.199
it's a smart business decision. My
personal take on it is that it's starting

1891
01:59:34.239 --> 01:59:39.079
to turn into like a three ring
circus for like trying to get absolutely people

1892
01:59:39.279 --> 01:59:41.720
take is that a point now where
just to I mean even if you're trying

1893
01:59:41.720 --> 01:59:45.159
to just navigate and figure out,
like how do I get this special thing?

1894
01:59:45.239 --> 01:59:47.119
Because when they put out the information
about it, it's like, here's

1895
01:59:47.479 --> 01:59:50.199
here's all these extra Batmans. We
may put out a guide for that.

1896
01:59:50.479 --> 01:59:54.079
Yeah, these are the guy we
have one of the highest traffic. Yeah,

1897
01:59:54.119 --> 01:59:56.600
one of the highest traffic stories we
put on the news. Alex is

1898
01:59:56.680 --> 01:59:59.800
right up about how where do you
get all the crap for Arkham City,

1899
01:59:59.840 --> 02:00:03.399
like the fact that that's something I
have to do and from region to region

1900
02:00:03.520 --> 02:00:06.560
and yeah, but you keep in
mind you can't use any of those skins

1901
02:00:06.680 --> 02:00:11.399
until after you've beat the game.
Wait, which is another thing. Even

1902
02:00:11.439 --> 02:00:15.439
if you have one yes Batman's skins, you your first time through the story,

1903
02:00:15.520 --> 02:00:18.760
you will play as Batman ass Batman. If you want to play as

1904
02:00:18.800 --> 02:00:23.239
any other Batman, you're relegated to
the challenge rooms, or you have to

1905
02:00:23.279 --> 02:00:26.439
beat the game first and then you
can pick whatever Batman you like. That

1906
02:00:26.520 --> 02:00:30.399
explained that that makes more sense now
knowing that that they're going to sell all

1907
02:00:30.439 --> 02:00:31.800
those as DLC you have for the
fact, right, Well, I'm glad

1908
02:00:31.840 --> 02:00:34.840
that I did not pay for the
one hundred dollars collectors attition, Yeah,

1909
02:00:35.119 --> 02:00:41.479
to get my Batman. Something about
that codes it burns me out. Is

1910
02:00:41.520 --> 02:00:44.640
there something like you tell me that
you're including this code so that we could

1911
02:00:44.720 --> 02:00:49.960
stem use sales and then to channel
around That's not actually true, but they

1912
02:00:50.279 --> 02:00:53.880
a bunch of money, so you
know, well, I mean it's it's

1913
02:00:53.920 --> 02:00:57.199
the same nets. You're right,
it's absurd that we are going through this

1914
02:00:57.279 --> 02:01:00.119
whole process. It's absurd, but
it's not offensive. It's offensive to me

1915
02:01:00.399 --> 02:01:05.199
why because it's like you're introducing you're
basically saying like I'm gonna give you a

1916
02:01:05.279 --> 02:01:09.319
speeding ticket if you speed before you
can just pay the cops to speed.

1917
02:01:09.479 --> 02:01:12.479
This is the step towards getting rid
of those codes. I would pay the

1918
02:01:12.479 --> 02:01:16.880
cops to speed every time. This
This is this is like the first step.

1919
02:01:17.359 --> 02:01:20.840
This is towards getting rid of those
things. Is the first step towards

1920
02:01:20.880 --> 02:01:25.960
disarmament? Is Okay, we we
introduced this thing that that started, you

1921
02:01:26.000 --> 02:01:30.199
know, devaluing the used game sales
some so now game Stop has to give

1922
02:01:30.239 --> 02:01:34.600
them a little juice put the game
stop to the decision of like, are

1923
02:01:34.640 --> 02:01:39.319
they gonna you know, pony up
to make something like this happen or right,

1924
02:01:39.439 --> 02:01:43.680
But but it may be the first
step to holding game or or or

1925
02:01:43.800 --> 02:01:49.199
a reseller accountable, or it could
just be another step in inconveniencing the consumer,

1926
02:01:49.880 --> 02:01:54.840
uh, while they figure out how
to both make money. That's exactly

1927
02:01:54.880 --> 02:01:57.520
what's happening. They're going to incommunity
the consumer because they'll the game. The

1928
02:01:57.560 --> 02:01:59.920
consumers will buy the game's regardless,
right, because they want to play the

1929
02:01:59.920 --> 02:02:01.399
game. So yes, maybe it
is a step in that direction, but

1930
02:02:01.439 --> 02:02:04.640
it looks like to me, hey, we added another thing for the consumer

1931
02:02:04.720 --> 02:02:08.520
to have to worry about while we
figure out how to connect with each other

1932
02:02:08.600 --> 02:02:11.560
to make it any situation, and
it's gonna get worse before it gets better.

1933
02:02:11.600 --> 02:02:15.600
Absolutely, games you already So it's
like what no, I just like,

1934
02:02:15.840 --> 02:02:19.159
like I understand, like philosophically,
but like practically, you're gonna go

1935
02:02:19.279 --> 02:02:23.560
buy sixty dollars, Batman, You're
always going to buy sixty dollars Batman.

1936
02:02:24.640 --> 02:02:29.159
Yeah for me, Yeah, yeah, I mean whatever and used and used

1937
02:02:29.199 --> 02:02:30.640
guys, we're going to get a
cheaper price on the game because they're buying

1938
02:02:30.920 --> 02:02:35.960
used anyway, but only not as
cheap now, because I'm sure that whatever

1939
02:02:36.039 --> 02:02:43.239
money game Stop is paying to Warner
to take this reality ends up necessarily because

1940
02:02:43.239 --> 02:02:45.479
the margins on use sales are so
enormous, they might be willing to take

1941
02:02:45.479 --> 02:02:48.640
a small hitter the game. The
games end up being about for the first

1942
02:02:48.680 --> 02:02:53.439
couple like month or so, like
it's like five bucks. Alos they're taking

1943
02:02:53.439 --> 02:02:56.319
the game at about forty dollars for
the first month. Then they're selling it

1944
02:02:56.319 --> 02:02:59.920
at fifty five. You can imagine
whatever they're paying off to Warner, they're

1945
02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:02.039
still making a pretty crazy margin those
games. And here's what happens when I

1946
02:03:02.119 --> 02:03:04.640
buy a new Batman. So I
buy a new Matman, I gotta figure

1947
02:03:04.680 --> 02:03:08.840
out where I'm gonna buy a new
Batman from because there're seven different pre orders

1948
02:03:10.079 --> 02:03:13.279
I was always gonna buy because they
just sent it to you and they and

1949
02:03:13.319 --> 02:03:15.199
then also Amazon gives me like my
twenty bucks for buying games from it.

1950
02:03:15.960 --> 02:03:19.119
Like you know what, twenty bucks
way fucking better than any Batman Skip.

1951
02:03:19.319 --> 02:03:24.560
I don't care what pre order bucks
you've got lined up, but from my

1952
02:03:24.640 --> 02:03:27.159
point, you have all these different
options if you're gonna buy a new Batman

1953
02:03:27.199 --> 02:03:29.920
where you're gonna get with it.
Then I've got to open up Batman.

1954
02:03:30.039 --> 02:03:32.600
I have to enter a code in
to get content because I'm a new owner

1955
02:03:32.880 --> 02:03:35.880
that I have to put it a
stupid code in almost like a game,

1956
02:03:36.239 --> 02:03:40.680
and then the content almost but not
anymore because and then it downloads and then

1957
02:03:40.720 --> 02:03:43.760
it downloads. Whereas if this system
weren't in place, I would buy the

1958
02:03:43.840 --> 02:03:45.800
same Batman that everybody else is buying
for sixty dollars, put the game in

1959
02:03:45.920 --> 02:03:48.479
on day one, and just be
ready to play. So that is an

1960
02:03:48.520 --> 02:03:51.439
inconvenience for the users, and I
do think it's only gonna get worse before

1961
02:03:51.439 --> 02:03:54.960
it gets better, as they kind
of split up and figure out how to

1962
02:03:55.119 --> 02:03:59.439
transact these things that are slowly becoming
less of an on disc and just kind

1963
02:03:59.439 --> 02:04:00.319
of like hey, we are including
in the game and more of a like

1964
02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:03.439
you know, hey, we're gonna
sell you this piece. We're gonna sell

1965
02:04:03.439 --> 02:04:06.279
you the game piece meal from seven
different stories. You put the puzzle together

1966
02:04:06.359 --> 02:04:11.680
and someday you'll have the full Batman
experience. It's just weird. It sounds

1967
02:04:11.680 --> 02:04:15.039
like Skylanders, Yeah, sounds like
micro transact, sounds like we're gone.

1968
02:04:16.279 --> 02:04:18.840
And then Chop Chop comes with a
code I don't know, but then if

1969
02:04:18.880 --> 02:04:23.039
it's that part doesn't even bother me
as much as somebody then being like,

1970
02:04:24.000 --> 02:04:26.079
well, we're just gonna put the
codes in the use games, right,

1971
02:04:26.119 --> 02:04:30.680
And it's like what you introduced,
this was supposed to stop you specifically from

1972
02:04:30.720 --> 02:04:34.399
doing this, Well were you are
the single No, it doesn't apply to

1973
02:04:34.479 --> 02:04:38.560
it. But that's them, just
like that's game stopped blinking to me.

1974
02:04:38.640 --> 02:04:41.800
That's them going like, oh shit, this is actually cutting into our sales,

1975
02:04:41.840 --> 02:04:45.560
like we have to do something too, But at the time they're staving

1976
02:04:45.600 --> 02:04:47.279
off the inevitable. But I have
to imagine that they make a bulk deal

1977
02:04:47.359 --> 02:04:50.199
with with whoever's giving them the codes, you know, whatever publisher it is

1978
02:04:50.439 --> 02:04:54.000
to be like, it is worth
more to us to buy these codes print

1979
02:04:54.000 --> 02:04:57.479
amount, insert it than to reduce
the price or of the game by x

1980
02:04:57.520 --> 02:05:01.680
amount or to or tow include a
gift card for Xbox five or whatever.

1981
02:05:01.720 --> 02:05:05.039
I'm there. So they obviously are
not making the full money off of they're

1982
02:05:05.079 --> 02:05:08.640
getting a bulk rate on some codes. I have to imagine, so it's

1983
02:05:08.680 --> 02:05:11.359
not like the ten dollars or whatever
you'd have to pay to do it,

1984
02:05:11.479 --> 02:05:15.079
but on that on the published on
the business side, everybody wins. Maybe

1985
02:05:15.079 --> 02:05:17.000
I don't know what the deal is. Who knows assumingly, who knows?

1986
02:05:17.079 --> 02:05:23.039
Who knows a bit. They have
pretty good projections on how many, like

1987
02:05:23.119 --> 02:05:28.359
what percentage of use sales they would
actually get someone to buy the code to

1988
02:05:28.520 --> 02:05:31.920
get with the code. But I'm
saying, like what the conversion rate is

1989
02:05:32.000 --> 02:05:36.880
on use sales to who goes and
gives them the ten bucks? Like I

1990
02:05:36.880 --> 02:05:41.600
mean, and I bet that's probably
low enough. Or maybe they're just buying

1991
02:05:41.640 --> 02:05:43.960
those codes. They're putting them in
the use box sales and they're saying,

1992
02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:45.399
this is as good as new.
We're gonna charge you the full price for

1993
02:05:45.479 --> 02:05:48.199
it. Well, they don't do
that, but they're not. They could

1994
02:05:48.399 --> 02:05:53.960
become close. Yeah, they're pretty
close. Five dollars is basically like you're

1995
02:05:54.000 --> 02:05:57.600
buying. But I don't I've seen
them, especially the rate that game prices

1996
02:05:57.640 --> 02:06:00.840
crash these days, like off of
sixty bucks? Are they going to give

1997
02:06:00.880 --> 02:06:02.119
me the full price for that game
if I include the code when I sell

1998
02:06:02.239 --> 02:06:06.159
back to the music? Come on? Why not? Could be could be

1999
02:06:06.239 --> 02:06:10.920
a child that a child on that
on that point of like you know how

2000
02:06:11.000 --> 02:06:13.399
this works I do, and I
think they take advantage of people. I

2001
02:06:13.439 --> 02:06:15.840
think this is them continuing to take
advantage of consumers. I think I think

2002
02:06:15.960 --> 02:06:18.640
video is a point in that you
see this playout over and over again,

2003
02:06:18.720 --> 02:06:23.279
where because because gamers just want to
play games, they are willing to put

2004
02:06:23.359 --> 02:06:25.399
up with a lot of bullshit because
at the end of the day, they

2005
02:06:25.439 --> 02:06:28.359
do just want to play the games. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't be

2006
02:06:28.479 --> 02:06:31.119
incensed over how you're treated as a
result of just wanting to play some games.

2007
02:06:31.239 --> 02:06:35.119
I think they take they take advantage
of a disenfranchised population, which is

2008
02:06:35.359 --> 02:06:39.119
a bunch of kids and a bunch
of people who, just like Patrick said,

2009
02:06:39.119 --> 02:06:41.119
just want to get their hands on
games that don't really feel like they

2010
02:06:41.159 --> 02:06:44.840
have a voice. And then I
think they exploit that. And I think

2011
02:06:44.920 --> 02:06:49.800
this just seems like a really weird
work around or a really weird wrench to

2012
02:06:49.840 --> 02:06:54.960
throw into the whole thing. Fat
It just feels Yes, it feels like

2013
02:06:55.079 --> 02:06:59.399
back room. Yes, it's jerrymandering, some kind of move of the districts

2014
02:06:59.439 --> 02:07:03.319
around, tax loopholes, around against
the codes. Yeah, follow the money.

2015
02:07:03.359 --> 02:07:08.000
I don't like it. Prohibition against
online passes anyway, do you run

2016
02:07:08.079 --> 02:07:13.520
the Batmobile. No, forget it, cancel my Well that that is one

2017
02:07:13.520 --> 02:07:17.960
of the pre runners. The batmobile
has the Batmobile, Yeah, my Batmobile.

2018
02:07:18.000 --> 02:07:20.560
Skin. I just want to point
out that if this calculator, if

2019
02:07:20.600 --> 02:07:24.479
this inflation calculator is to be believed, you know what, actually, hang

2020
02:07:24.560 --> 02:07:28.079
on, I pushed in fifty bucks, considering that the price of games has

2021
02:07:28.119 --> 02:07:30.760
only gone up ten bucks in the
last twenty five years. Well, I

2022
02:07:30.800 --> 02:07:33.640
don't know about that. I played
like eighty bucks for a lot of Strider,

2023
02:07:33.720 --> 02:07:36.520
except excepting a few outliers. Yeah, okay, Star four was one

2024
02:07:36.560 --> 02:07:41.840
hundred bucks. But whatever, Uh, sixty dollars now in nineteen eighty six

2025
02:07:41.960 --> 02:07:47.560
dollars twenty nine dollars and fifty seven
cents, So I don't really I'm still

2026
02:07:47.560 --> 02:07:50.960
confused. There's a little perspective for
sixty dollars might as well be zero dollars.

2027
02:07:51.319 --> 02:07:55.319
I'm not saying that all games are
free. I'm just saying that every

2028
02:07:56.439 --> 02:07:59.399
as much as development costs have ballooned
from one generation of the next, like

2029
02:07:59.439 --> 02:08:01.119
I'm shocked, the prices on games
I have not gone up more. Well,

2030
02:08:01.159 --> 02:08:03.920
that's a different conversation. I mean, whatever, I'll pay eighty dollars

2031
02:08:05.079 --> 02:08:07.720
for the game. I will not
pay you know, I don't want to

2032
02:08:07.760 --> 02:08:11.840
give that money directly to a game
stop. Suh. I mean I think

2033
02:08:11.119 --> 02:08:18.039
I think you're not because the margins
on new games or ship so so even

2034
02:08:18.079 --> 02:08:20.359
if you bought them from them,
there they're making what keeps them they're making

2035
02:08:20.399 --> 02:08:24.720
next business? Yeah, I mean
what I In fact, it's super Nintendo

2036
02:08:24.800 --> 02:08:28.039
cartridge cleaning kits really the business.
I really want to take the game stop

2037
02:08:28.239 --> 02:08:33.640
buy all your games new from them
and just draining. No, I mean

2038
02:08:33.680 --> 02:08:35.880
I'm sure they make go in there
and say no, I don't want the

2039
02:08:35.960 --> 02:08:39.439
disk protection. No, I don't
want the guide. No, I don't

2040
02:08:39.479 --> 02:08:41.359
want to pre order anything. But
I'm gonna but I'm gonna take up a

2041
02:08:41.439 --> 02:08:45.119
lot of time online. They do
they do that, I use up your

2042
02:08:45.159 --> 02:08:48.560
employees time so that you can't make
sales. While I'm there, you're saying

2043
02:08:48.560 --> 02:08:54.880
we should occupy game stops, right, be there? All right, let's

2044
02:08:56.319 --> 02:08:58.680
move on out of this, batman. Oh actually, so I guess when

2045
02:09:00.039 --> 02:09:01.399
the question I had was yes,
it's very good, thanks for asking.

2046
02:09:01.800 --> 02:09:05.239
Uh, yeah, it's any good. Great? Uh but okay, that's

2047
02:09:05.279 --> 02:09:07.159
fine, let's move on. No
good, No, if you have a

2048
02:09:07.239 --> 02:09:09.640
question asked the questions. Oh no, I was gonna say, like the

2049
02:09:09.720 --> 02:09:15.039
impact this has on like trophies or
achievements. Yeah, they're a Catwoman specific

2050
02:09:15.119 --> 02:09:18.319
trophies. Uh, Riddler trophies,
I should say, not not PlayStation trophies,

2051
02:09:20.079 --> 02:09:26.359
but collect trophies, trophies associated with
collecting all of the trophies. I'm

2052
02:09:26.399 --> 02:09:28.520
not sure how it works if you
haven't redeemed the trophies. If I think

2053
02:09:28.560 --> 02:09:31.439
the Riddler trophies, I mean,
because they count the Batman trophies and Catwoman

2054
02:09:31.560 --> 02:09:35.840
trophies separately, So it could very
well be that the achievements you get are

2055
02:09:37.279 --> 02:09:41.319
tied to the Batman. You have
not yet collected all of the riddlers.

2056
02:09:41.399 --> 02:09:43.439
I have not yet and will not. Yeah, there's a lot. There

2057
02:09:43.479 --> 02:09:50.520
are four hundred Batman like Riddler challenges
to complete Batman alone. Uh. And

2058
02:09:50.640 --> 02:09:52.680
there's a much easier way to get
all that stuff filled in on your map,

2059
02:09:52.760 --> 02:09:56.399
which kind of makes the riddles themselves
a little less potent, a little

2060
02:09:56.439 --> 02:10:00.760
less less cool than they were the
last time around, because it's less about

2061
02:10:00.800 --> 02:10:03.159
you figuring out like what does he
mean when he says this, and more

2062
02:10:03.239 --> 02:10:05.239
like this is the spot of the
map. I'm gonna go here until I

2063
02:10:05.279 --> 02:10:07.760
see something that looks like it's a
little out of place and then take a

2064
02:10:07.800 --> 02:10:11.880
picture of it. So uh,
yeah, it's it's a lot of collecting

2065
02:10:11.880 --> 02:10:16.680
trophies and doing kind of skillful things
to get access to the trophies. They

2066
02:10:16.840 --> 02:10:22.800
change the bad vision detective mode stuff
a little bit. Yeah, goes away,

2067
02:10:22.439 --> 02:10:28.239
you know. But but basically by
not having the riddler stuff be as

2068
02:10:28.359 --> 02:10:31.520
prevalent and the riddles specifically, there's
less of a reason, the less of

2069
02:10:31.560 --> 02:10:33.880
a need to to go around and
use it. Some of the side missions,

2070
02:10:35.279 --> 02:10:37.960
and even in the main story mode
a couple of times you go into

2071
02:10:37.000 --> 02:10:41.479
like the forensic version of it where
you're like scanning an area and looking for

2072
02:10:41.880 --> 02:10:46.800
evidence. Yeah, and that's cool, following blood trails and such. My

2073
02:10:46.880 --> 02:10:54.640
copy comes tomorrow. Batman All right, Jeff, anything else you want to

2074
02:10:54.720 --> 02:10:58.880
talk about? Covered the most important
games of Skylanders and Batman. So yeah,

2075
02:11:00.760 --> 02:11:05.079
that's it. Oh, Hogan's main
events. I haven't tried it yet.

2076
02:11:05.399 --> 02:11:07.560
We did track down a copy and
pick it up, so we will

2077
02:11:07.600 --> 02:11:16.119
do some video that and uh track
Mania two can't move on? Move on?

2078
02:11:16.239 --> 02:11:22.199
Bank, how's it going? Which
been playing a couple three hours uncharted

2079
02:11:22.239 --> 02:11:26.319
three that I can't. Okay,
well don't don't. Let's just move on

2080
02:11:26.439 --> 02:11:28.199
power through that. Are you wearing
a subway hat? Are you doing not

2081
02:11:28.319 --> 02:11:31.840
yet? I haven't unlocked it.
I'm kind of getting there kind of wear

2082
02:11:33.000 --> 02:11:35.840
like kind of wear like a thick
J talbot. That's true. I did

2083
02:11:35.920 --> 02:11:39.359
play some of the multiplayer, uh
near as I could tell, that subway

2084
02:11:39.439 --> 02:11:43.960
hat is the hardest to get accessory
in that multiplayer. I'm still clear if

2085
02:11:45.000 --> 02:11:48.239
that is all of the multiplayer.
Is the competitive multiplayer it is to be

2086
02:11:48.319 --> 02:11:54.199
the full that it is? Sure
if it caps prematurely, because I've seen

2087
02:11:54.239 --> 02:11:58.279
I've seen enough people at level thirty
five and that thing too soon. It

2088
02:11:58.359 --> 02:12:01.439
might be the thirty five is the
cap, so I haven't seen anybody above

2089
02:12:01.520 --> 02:12:05.199
that. Yeah, but I would
have to imagine the retail goes higher than

2090
02:12:05.239 --> 02:12:09.640
that. That seems like a pretty
low level cap for for for a retail

2091
02:12:09.640 --> 02:12:13.439
game. It's supposed to last for
some time. Anyway, We'll talk about

2092
02:12:13.479 --> 02:12:24.359
that next week review coming soon.
That might be it. That's it beats

2093
02:12:24.600 --> 02:12:26.560
Beat Gargoyles. How do you feel
about that game? How are how are

2094
02:12:26.560 --> 02:12:31.079
your emotions about Dark Souls? I
mean, I'm still enjoying it. I

2095
02:12:31.159 --> 02:12:33.520
just like I said, I can't
play it at long stretches. Just have

2096
02:12:33.640 --> 02:12:37.159
to have to inch my way through
it. I just got through the undid

2097
02:12:37.199 --> 02:12:39.880
Parish. Okay, yeah, that's
what I'm still there. It's a rough

2098
02:12:39.960 --> 02:12:46.680
game play. Dance Central two,
yes, my girlfriend, that's pretty fun.

2099
02:12:46.840 --> 02:12:50.119
Dance Central two is pretty good.
How so, I haven't had a

2100
02:12:50.199 --> 02:12:52.960
chance to do any of the two
player other than when I play with John

2101
02:12:52.039 --> 02:12:58.920
Drake when he was here. He
hardly counts as a person. He might

2102
02:13:00.000 --> 02:13:03.479
as well be a set of curtains
pretty much for a dance I like,

2103
02:13:05.159 --> 02:13:07.479
is that? Has that been a
good experience with the two past stuff?

2104
02:13:07.520 --> 02:13:13.479
It was good, except that it's
almost that weird guitar hero issue of like

2105
02:13:13.600 --> 02:13:15.960
the better you are at the real
thing, like the worst you might be

2106
02:13:16.159 --> 02:13:18.399
in the game. I'm not sure. I mean, it's a sample size

2107
02:13:18.399 --> 02:13:22.560
of one so far. But she's
a way better dancer than I am,

2108
02:13:22.640 --> 02:13:26.199
and yet I beat her consistently.
Don't say because yeah, go figure,

2109
02:13:26.600 --> 02:13:30.000
But I don't know, because maybe
I know more like what the connector is

2110
02:13:30.039 --> 02:13:31.119
looking for. I was able to
kind of a game she wanted to like

2111
02:13:31.239 --> 02:13:35.600
do with the real moves and stuff
like when alimb is going a ready,

2112
02:13:35.600 --> 02:13:37.880
you're like, okay, I need
to exactly elbow out more or whatever exactly,

2113
02:13:39.399 --> 02:13:41.760
just you know, just like a
guitar player, Like actual guitar players

2114
02:13:41.840 --> 02:13:45.359
had issues with Guitar Hero. I
think that it is pretty good. I

2115
02:13:45.439 --> 02:13:48.720
don't think Just Dance three is particularly
good, though they've been doing head to

2116
02:13:48.800 --> 02:13:54.039
head dance offs. I've been comparing
the two. Yeah, trying to at

2117
02:13:54.119 --> 02:13:58.680
least a boy, that's barely a
game. Just Dance three. It's just

2118
02:13:58.760 --> 02:14:03.199
silhouettes. It's barely tracking anything,
right, And that's the thing is like,

2119
02:14:03.439 --> 02:14:07.039
is it's it's just it's a connect
game and it's never been about precise

2120
02:14:07.119 --> 02:14:13.039
movements like Dance Central. The thing
is like the dancers are are always doing

2121
02:14:13.319 --> 02:14:18.640
far more challenging and complicated dance routines
in Just Dance because they're not animating people

2122
02:14:18.720 --> 02:14:22.239
or they're not animating like polygonal figures. It's just like we pointed a camera

2123
02:14:22.359 --> 02:14:26.920
this dancer dressed all ridiculously and then
made them look all neon and glowy,

2124
02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:31.079
and you have to, you know, kind of mimic their moves and they

2125
02:14:31.159 --> 02:14:33.680
have like you know, they'll do
like a little kind of like the flash

2126
02:14:33.760 --> 02:14:37.039
cards and Dance Central. Uh they'll
have you know, like little figures kind

2127
02:14:37.039 --> 02:14:39.960
of scroll across the screen at the
bottom be like here's what your next move

2128
02:14:41.199 --> 02:14:43.359
kind of looks like. But it
doesn't have like the level of granularity that

2129
02:14:45.000 --> 02:14:48.119
that Dance Central has, where it's
like, here is like the left hand

2130
02:14:48.199 --> 02:14:50.840
move version of this, and then
the next car is gonna be okay,

2131
02:14:50.880 --> 02:14:54.000
and here's the right hand move.
So you know you're gonna shuffle, shuffle

2132
02:14:54.039 --> 02:14:54.840
to the right, shuffle shuffle to
the left. It's like, oh,

2133
02:14:54.840 --> 02:14:58.279
okay, when when that thing comes
up, I now know what that means.

2134
02:14:58.359 --> 02:15:01.880
Like they don't give you that much
direction. Uh, not that you

2135
02:15:01.960 --> 02:15:05.000
need it though, So it's it's
kind of this weird thing where the dancing

2136
02:15:05.359 --> 02:15:09.239
looks far more chance, like it's
way harder to pull off the proper dancing,

2137
02:15:09.800 --> 02:15:13.359
but the game doesn't really give a
shit, Like there's it's just like

2138
02:15:13.399 --> 02:15:16.720
as long as you're flailing around sort
of maybe rhythmically, you're okay. I

2139
02:15:16.840 --> 02:15:20.079
got like three stars on a song
sitting on my couch. Granted, now

2140
02:15:20.119 --> 02:15:24.800
there's an easy mode where you're sitting
on your couch Rhythmically, No, I

2141
02:15:24.920 --> 02:15:28.800
was I was like literally not moving
like I'm not I wasn't seeing on my

2142
02:15:28.840 --> 02:15:31.520
couch and like trying to mimic it. I was just sitting on my couch

2143
02:15:31.000 --> 02:15:33.840
watching it, and I was getting
points for it. You can like,

2144
02:15:35.000 --> 02:15:39.319
couch, it's mine now. So
you're saying like, if you just if

2145
02:15:39.359 --> 02:15:43.000
you don't care about really what's going
on and you just want to do just

2146
02:15:43.199 --> 02:15:46.680
dance, or if you want the
full experience of dancing, you want to

2147
02:15:46.720 --> 02:15:50.680
go to Dance Central. I don't
know if if so. So for me,

2148
02:15:50.800 --> 02:15:54.239
as someone who is not a great
dancer, I find the Dance Central

2149
02:15:54.279 --> 02:16:00.720
experience far more satisfying because I feel
like it is the moves, at least

2150
02:16:00.760 --> 02:16:05.840
on kind of the easier levels,
you feel like you're actually you're like,

2151
02:16:05.880 --> 02:16:07.520
okay, I'm actually doing this move. I can actually I can read that

2152
02:16:07.680 --> 02:16:11.920
card and I know how to do
that little side step move, and you

2153
02:16:11.000 --> 02:16:13.720
feel kind of involved in it.
You're doing enough of it that you feel

2154
02:16:13.720 --> 02:16:16.800
like you're doing approximating a move,
like if you feel like I'm kind of

2155
02:16:16.880 --> 02:16:20.359
dancing here, I'm actually kind of
doing a thing here, whereas in just

2156
02:16:20.560 --> 02:16:26.239
dance like not enough direction and it's
it's motion tracking is so haphazard. That's

2157
02:16:26.279 --> 02:16:28.640
like I don't I can't. I
don't know how to do that move,

2158
02:16:28.800 --> 02:16:33.440
but I have no motivation to learn
how to do that move because I'm still

2159
02:16:33.760 --> 02:16:35.959
scoring decently. Just kind of There's
another time where I was just like just

2160
02:16:37.079 --> 02:16:39.319
kind of like fuck these routines.
I'm just gonna jump around and shake my

2161
02:16:39.440 --> 02:16:43.719
arms and did okay. So yeah, I've thought that because there's there's both.

2162
02:16:43.799 --> 02:16:46.040
There's both. The there's an easy
mode in a normal mode, and

2163
02:16:46.120 --> 02:16:48.479
the easy mode literally is just detecting
your waist up like it's It's where I

2164
02:16:48.559 --> 02:16:50.600
do my best dance. It's like
no, no feet, you just you

2165
02:16:50.639 --> 02:16:54.479
can just lock your feet into place. And even on normal I for the

2166
02:16:54.559 --> 02:16:56.719
most part would have my feet locked
into place and be like I just shift

2167
02:16:56.760 --> 02:17:00.000
my shoulders kind of the sides and
it's kind of how I dance anyway.

2168
02:17:00.200 --> 02:17:05.280
It takes it. So there's some
other cool stuff actually happening in Just Dance

2169
02:17:05.360 --> 02:17:11.920
three uh. With with like a
you can record your own choreographies as they

2170
02:17:13.000 --> 02:17:15.920
call them, and it's able to
cut your silhouette out and make you look

2171
02:17:16.000 --> 02:17:18.360
like a just Dance dude, and
it uploads it and then other people can

2172
02:17:18.559 --> 02:17:24.760
danced like multiplayer choreographies, you know
what. I haven't dug into that part

2173
02:17:24.799 --> 02:17:30.079
of it, maybe because it supports
up to four but supports to four players

2174
02:17:30.159 --> 02:17:33.600
at once. But it's again it
as fast and loose as it is with

2175
02:17:33.760 --> 02:17:37.239
one. I can only imagine,
uh, just record, just record a

2176
02:17:37.280 --> 02:17:41.319
couple of people boning and then uploading
the silhouettes of it. It's like,

2177
02:17:41.399 --> 02:17:45.799
here's my dance. That would be
pretty amazing. Uh, But it seemed

2178
02:17:45.920 --> 02:17:52.840
like the idea of and I'm not
sure how like if it's if it's then

2179
02:17:52.040 --> 02:17:56.639
like monitoring your movement and then like
scoring people they're downloading and playing it based

2180
02:17:56.680 --> 02:18:01.959
on that movement. But the idea
of beings like here's a song and here's

2181
02:18:03.000 --> 02:18:05.239
my dance routine for it, and
people can see that and play along to

2182
02:18:05.319 --> 02:18:09.000
it, like that seems like a
neat idea. It's just that it's in

2183
02:18:09.479 --> 02:18:13.680
a game that's not good. And
again and also like soundtrack, I really

2184
02:18:13.760 --> 02:18:16.120
like the song selection in Just Dance
three. Uh, it's just it needs

2185
02:18:16.159 --> 02:18:22.719
to be in a better game.
But Dance Central two, Dance Central aer

2186
02:18:22.000 --> 02:18:26.200
seems pretty good. Yeah, I
like it, well, it looks better.

2187
02:18:26.440 --> 02:18:31.280
The the like the crew challenge stuff
is cool, kind of giving a

2188
02:18:31.319 --> 02:18:33.959
little more structure because that's the story. Yeah, Yeah, Dance Central.

2189
02:18:35.360 --> 02:18:37.559
The first one was just like dance
and then it was like a Tar Hero

2190
02:18:37.719 --> 02:18:41.959
one. Yeah, it was very
feature stripped. This slightly more. I

2191
02:18:43.040 --> 02:18:46.280
feel like that's like the two players
simultaneous, which obviously is a big addition,

2192
02:18:48.280 --> 02:18:50.360
and the crew challenge stuff seemed like
kind of the biggest. Oh,

2193
02:18:50.360 --> 02:18:54.040
and there's Connect support so you can
yell at your voice voice support. Yeah,

2194
02:18:54.159 --> 02:18:58.600
voice support for obviously there's wait a
minute, there's always been Connect support,

2195
02:18:58.600 --> 02:19:01.440
but yes, Connect voice support.
And when you when you first loaded

2196
02:19:01.520 --> 02:19:05.000
up, there's just a little note
on the menu screen that says, you

2197
02:19:05.079 --> 02:19:09.479
know, just shout dance at Connect
and you can just say Connect dance and

2198
02:19:09.559 --> 02:19:13.120
it loads stuff up. I'm gonna
I'm gonna give the Fitness Mode a run.

2199
02:19:13.680 --> 02:19:16.879
I've heard it's because they had something
that in the Yeah, it was

2200
02:19:16.959 --> 02:19:20.120
like the first one I've seen it
so far. It's just got like ten

2201
02:19:20.280 --> 02:19:24.440
or maybe a dozen playlists. I
don't even know if the songs vary because

2202
02:19:24.440 --> 02:19:26.879
they've got down to the second how
long each one is, Like this one

2203
02:19:26.000 --> 02:19:28.639
is ten minutes twenty one seconds long. So it's probably the same songs.

2204
02:19:28.879 --> 02:19:33.479
Yeah, but I mean the tracks
you know, burn like chained playlist like

2205
02:19:33.559 --> 02:19:35.959
that's good. Yeah, Like some
of them are up to like an hour

2206
02:19:37.079 --> 02:19:39.479
long, and they're they're even listed
out for like you know, this one's

2207
02:19:39.479 --> 02:19:43.440
an interval, this one, this
one is like Max Cardio, you know,

2208
02:19:43.600 --> 02:19:48.120
like it's right. Yeah, I've
fallen out, as I do every

2209
02:19:48.159 --> 02:19:50.520
six months. I've fallen off my
effort to get back in shape, and

2210
02:19:50.559 --> 02:19:52.920
so I'm gonteresting. But it's it's
into this, Yeah, it's it still

2211
02:19:54.000 --> 02:19:58.360
has that and you know there's good
goofy songs in in Dance Central two as

2212
02:19:58.399 --> 02:20:01.719
well, Like it's a good mix
of I guess you know current dance music

2213
02:20:01.879 --> 02:20:07.920
as well as you know the Humpty
Dance and Ultimate Dance music. I think

2214
02:20:07.959 --> 02:20:11.719
there's some Bell lived vote in there. I believe you're Bobby Brown. Well

2215
02:20:11.840 --> 02:20:15.159
yeah, my prerogative is in there. Definitely can import to Dance Central one

2216
02:20:15.200 --> 02:20:20.159
stuff eventually. Can you not do
it yet? Yeah, yeah, because

2217
02:20:20.159 --> 02:20:22.159
the game's not out yet, so
the store stuff still isn't up. The

2218
02:20:22.200 --> 02:20:26.079
same thing be paid I think maybe
five ten. It also comes with a

2219
02:20:26.159 --> 02:20:31.239
points card, all right. It
comes with two hundred and forty a code

2220
02:20:31.280 --> 02:20:33.479
for two hundred and forty points on
I guess to encourage you to go buy

2221
02:20:33.520 --> 02:20:37.040
a song. I was. I
was looking at the original game actually because

2222
02:20:37.120 --> 02:20:39.920
how's how's the soundtrack? And first
one because you need the first one,

2223
02:20:41.000 --> 02:20:43.079
like a new copy of the first
one to import. So I was figuring,

2224
02:20:43.079 --> 02:20:45.760
I'll just go buy the first one, uh and pull it in.

2225
02:20:46.239 --> 02:20:48.040
It's good. It's good, it's
good. It's good, good stuff in

2226
02:20:48.079 --> 02:20:52.840
there. I was considering how much
a new probably was going through some some

2227
02:20:52.000 --> 02:20:56.000
Dance Central one also just to kind
of compare and contrasts those two. And

2228
02:20:56.479 --> 02:21:01.399
uh, I honestly I like a
lot of the d LC songs more than

2229
02:21:01.680 --> 02:21:05.200
the stuff that was necessarily on the
disc. There's some there's some good delC

2230
02:21:05.399 --> 02:21:07.159
for that game. Well, that's
what I was gonna make light of.

2231
02:21:07.280 --> 02:21:11.239
Was it on Amazon? Like the
first game by itself is thirty five bucks

2232
02:21:11.360 --> 02:21:13.479
and the first game with a two
hundred and forty point card is forty five

2233
02:21:13.520 --> 02:21:18.639
bucks. Pay us ten extra bucks
to get this three dollars voucher done.

2234
02:21:20.559 --> 02:21:24.120
So I think the first Dance Central
I don't I get the feeling. I

2235
02:21:24.200 --> 02:21:28.399
remember really liking the soundtrack for that. In terms of like it made for

2236
02:21:28.479 --> 02:21:31.239
good gameplay, even if they weren't
always your favorite songs, It's true they

2237
02:21:31.639 --> 02:21:35.200
were. The routines were good.
It was a you know, they were

2238
02:21:35.239 --> 02:21:39.000
good songs to dance too. Oh
and there's some there's some good stuff in

2239
02:21:39.120 --> 02:21:45.239
two. They did some of this
in one, but like songs, the

2240
02:21:45.319 --> 02:21:48.920
dance routines incorporating stuff from like the
videos or oh right, in the case

2241
02:21:50.079 --> 02:21:54.319
of Hadaway is what is love?
Okay? That at the Roxbury? Yeah

2242
02:21:54.559 --> 02:21:58.239
stuff, Oh it's got. It's
got a little good little head snap parts

2243
02:21:58.280 --> 02:22:01.280
of the routine. It's a small
part, but it's one of those like

2244
02:22:01.319 --> 02:22:05.040
if you know, it's like,
it's a funny little thing. I can't

2245
02:22:05.120 --> 02:22:07.799
the name is Escaping Me, the
Internet meme song. It's like the second

2246
02:22:07.840 --> 02:22:15.959
song in the game. Uh Romanian
pop song. God, is it actually

2247
02:22:16.000 --> 02:22:18.200
that song or is it the TI
song that sam? It totally is that

2248
02:22:18.319 --> 02:22:22.200
song. And it's got it's got
the the dude, the YouTube guy,

2249
02:22:22.520 --> 02:22:26.719
it's got his motions and stuff.
Residuals. Yeah, kids getting paid,

2250
02:22:26.520 --> 02:22:30.200
So the kid gets paid. So
the one issue I had with the dance

2251
02:22:30.200 --> 02:22:31.680
battles, which is not the fault
of the game is that, like there

2252
02:22:31.719 --> 02:22:35.479
were elbows getting knocked into heads and
stuff. You know, It's like basically,

2253
02:22:35.520 --> 02:22:39.920
we're standing as far from the connector
as the living room and allow,

2254
02:22:39.319 --> 02:22:41.879
and we still couldn't move far enough
apart and both be in the frame.

2255
02:22:43.200 --> 02:22:46.319
Yeah you need Yeah, so that's
not the fault of the game. But

2256
02:22:46.479 --> 02:22:48.520
so I immediately it was just like, all right, fucking I'm buying that

2257
02:22:48.559 --> 02:22:52.479
thing. I was so I wanted
went on Amazon to buy it. It's

2258
02:22:52.479 --> 02:22:56.239
the Niko Zoom yeah, And I
was like, I mean, it's optics.

2259
02:22:56.280 --> 02:22:58.239
Why wouldn't that work? You know, just whatever. So I get

2260
02:22:58.280 --> 02:23:03.000
on there Amazon and out of one
hundred user reviews, sixty of them are

2261
02:23:03.079 --> 02:23:07.559
one star. And it's just ranging
from like from like it completely fucks up

2262
02:23:07.600 --> 02:23:11.239
hand tracking too, it only works
with some games to this is fucking snake

2263
02:23:11.280 --> 02:23:15.280
oil. Like people were angry about
that thing. So I was just curious.

2264
02:23:15.319 --> 02:23:16.799
I mean, sixty those people Microsoft, I mean, who knows,

2265
02:23:16.879 --> 02:23:20.559
who knows, But I mean,
if any of you guys use that thing,

2266
02:23:20.079 --> 02:23:24.280
I've been waiting to hear from other
people. I was from Harmonix's John

2267
02:23:24.360 --> 02:23:31.440
Drake, and it sounded like he
liked it, so yeah, consider the

2268
02:23:31.520 --> 02:23:35.799
source. Truly, I feel like
they would want that thing to work.

2269
02:23:35.840 --> 02:23:39.920
That would make me buy more Connected, because right now it just don't work.

2270
02:23:39.040 --> 02:23:41.200
You're you're right. But at the
same time, if it did,

2271
02:23:41.319 --> 02:23:46.079
wor own, it would be Microsoft
having to admit that we could have made

2272
02:23:46.120 --> 02:23:48.879
this thing. But like I said, a lot of the people were saying

2273
02:23:48.879 --> 02:23:52.079
that it does anything that requires finer
tracking of the hands and stuff. That

2274
02:23:52.120 --> 02:23:54.360
makes sense because it's just distorting the
image. I mean, I mean,

2275
02:23:54.440 --> 02:23:58.520
Microsoft doesn't have to admit that San
Francisco apartments are really tiny and you probably

2276
02:23:58.559 --> 02:24:01.120
shouldn't have Connect, but they would
have to admit that they made a thing

2277
02:24:01.239 --> 02:24:05.159
that doesn't work in San Francisco apartments. They already do. They were really

2278
02:24:05.360 --> 02:24:07.799
like eight feet, don't have a
coffee table and like you know, mount

2279
02:24:07.879 --> 02:24:11.159
it on the wall. They kind
of already admit that. I kind of

2280
02:24:11.200 --> 02:24:13.319
knew going into this whole thing.
How else are they going to force you

2281
02:24:13.360 --> 02:24:16.959
to buy a second one? I
just ordered it. I just ordered a

2282
02:24:16.200 --> 02:24:22.959
like another sit on top of your
TV stand clip thing because I bought the

2283
02:24:22.959 --> 02:24:24.479
one that everyone recommended at launched,
which I had this thing that would go

2284
02:24:24.600 --> 02:24:26.719
down the back of the TV and
you could bolt to it and stuff.

2285
02:24:26.760 --> 02:24:31.799
But it didn't fit my TV at
all, so it was useless. So

2286
02:24:31.879 --> 02:24:35.600
I bought another one that seems like
it might be a slight more precariously positioned

2287
02:24:35.719 --> 02:24:39.319
thing. But I at least look
look at it and see how it would

2288
02:24:39.360 --> 02:24:43.200
work to keep that stupid thing on
top of my TV. So maybe I'll

2289
02:24:43.239 --> 02:24:45.159
get some dancing in. I still
have to, yeah, I don't know.

2290
02:24:45.159 --> 02:24:46.760
I still have to rearrange my living
room if I want to, if

2291
02:24:46.760 --> 02:24:50.920
I want to do it properly.
So there doesn't know. It's a shame

2292
02:24:52.000 --> 02:24:54.559
there is. There is another company
bringing out an attachment the same concept as

2293
02:24:54.600 --> 02:24:58.280
the Niko, but maybe that thing
works better. But I can't imagine they

2294
02:24:58.280 --> 02:25:03.239
don't have to work rarely. It's
all very I don't know if the Niko

2295
02:25:03.280 --> 02:25:07.159
Won is baddly designed or if it's
just an inherent limitation of concept. But

2296
02:25:07.479 --> 02:25:09.200
yeah, I was curious for anybody
listening to this has had a good experience

2297
02:25:09.239 --> 02:25:13.000
with that thing, even if it
actually works well, because we will find

2298
02:25:13.040 --> 02:25:16.440
out by next week. I can
guarantee you that probably now that you've said

2299
02:25:16.479 --> 02:25:20.120
that, I'll get a million emails, uh anything else, Brad, you

2300
02:25:20.159 --> 02:25:24.680
want to touch on. That's it
we have we have burned through this podcast.

2301
02:25:24.479 --> 02:25:30.719
Uh, Patrick, is there any
uh any news of particular note that

2302
02:25:30.799 --> 02:25:33.360
you want to to bring up here
or any stories you want to plug?

2303
02:25:33.760 --> 02:25:39.959
The NFL Blitz Yeah, oh yeah, yeah and announced today with zombies.

2304
02:25:39.680 --> 02:25:41.920
Yeah. Well, I mean they
had they had weird guest teams before,

2305
02:25:43.079 --> 02:25:46.440
so it's it's not that's not the
crux of it. Yeah, what is

2306
02:25:46.200 --> 02:25:50.639
that? Was the crux of the
article? Says to me that someone who

2307
02:25:50.680 --> 02:25:54.200
didn't play a whole up that's maybe
oh okay, the hand the hands on

2308
02:25:54.360 --> 02:25:56.799
article, you think you did not
have a lot of hands on in it.

2309
02:25:56.079 --> 02:26:00.479
You think that that's more of not
EA making the folks, but the

2310
02:26:01.040 --> 02:26:03.520
writer making that the thing. Maybe
maybe hard to say, but uh,

2311
02:26:03.600 --> 02:26:07.600
you know, there's some footage out
there that the EGM has in their their

2312
02:26:07.680 --> 02:26:11.840
story and I pretty much muted it
and and kind of went to look through

2313
02:26:11.879 --> 02:26:16.600
the footage and it looks a lot
like NFL Blitz, Like it's it's uh

2314
02:26:16.959 --> 02:26:20.040
similar animations. Uh you know,
a lot of the same plays are in

2315
02:26:20.120 --> 02:26:24.799
there, though whoever was playing it
no jump passing in there. And I'm

2316
02:26:24.840 --> 02:26:28.000
worried that if if they've taken out
jump passing, then that game is being

2317
02:26:28.079 --> 02:26:31.840
made by someone who doesn't understand what
makes NFL Blitz great. I'm just hoping

2318
02:26:31.879 --> 02:26:35.440
that whoever was playing it just to
it didn't know that that's how you play

2319
02:26:35.520 --> 02:26:41.559
that game. So are they bringing
Blitz back? This is a new game,

2320
02:26:41.000 --> 02:26:43.040
sort of like a how NBA Jam
was a new game like this is

2321
02:26:43.079 --> 02:26:46.399
this is no Tibron's developing it.
This is NFL Blitz like no number,

2322
02:26:46.479 --> 02:26:48.920
no nothing. And it's gonna be
a retail game. It's gonna be apparently

2323
02:26:48.959 --> 02:26:52.920
be a retail game out January third, which I don't think they would have

2324
02:26:54.040 --> 02:26:58.799
learned from NBAJAM last time. So
are running through was dead? Well?

2325
02:26:58.879 --> 02:27:01.239
People that are fans by twice anyway, So why not just squeeze him out?

2326
02:27:01.280 --> 02:27:03.239
Well? Yeah, why not get
forty bucks out of him the first

2327
02:27:03.239 --> 02:27:07.120
time instead of fifteen? Uh,
you know, because you could sell a

2328
02:27:07.159 --> 02:27:09.879
disc the first time out and you're
in. You called this one as far

2329
02:27:09.959 --> 02:27:16.159
as release window of you knew that
once once they once they announced it officially

2330
02:27:16.879 --> 02:27:20.319
that it was gonna come real quick. Uh, syndicate style. Well I

2331
02:27:20.399 --> 02:27:26.879
called that because I knew that.
But but yeah, super perceptive. No,

2332
02:27:26.159 --> 02:27:28.360
no, the you know, I
mean, we we ran a story

2333
02:27:28.399 --> 02:27:31.799
on this in November at twenty ten, yes, saying that, hey,

2334
02:27:31.879 --> 02:27:33.239
guess what he is working on our
new NFL Blitz. They of course would

2335
02:27:33.239 --> 02:27:37.479
not confirm it until today. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, it's uh

2336
02:27:39.040 --> 02:27:41.959
so real quick turn around from announcement
to ship for whatever reason, the ship

2337
02:27:43.200 --> 02:27:46.959
January third. So do you feel
like you just I mean, do you

2338
02:27:46.040 --> 02:27:50.159
know enough about the game to think
that the contents not there for a full

2339
02:27:50.239 --> 02:27:52.719
retail game. It depends on what
they add. I mean, you know,

2340
02:27:52.879 --> 02:27:56.920
they've they've added like something called the
Blitz Gauntlet mode or something like that.

2341
02:27:56.040 --> 02:28:00.200
Like they're they're looking to expand in
ways that are probably similar to what

2342
02:28:00.239 --> 02:28:03.680
they did in NBA JAM. Sounds
exactly like the remix Tour. Yeah yeah,

2343
02:28:03.760 --> 02:28:07.799
but so so wait so retail but
not sixty, no idea, but

2344
02:28:09.000 --> 02:28:11.159
probably I will come out and say
that they will probably know better than to

2345
02:28:11.280 --> 02:28:15.719
try to charge sixty for this game, because they you know, with NBA

2346
02:28:15.799 --> 02:28:18.120
Jam they did charge forty, So
they're not trying to do the league or

2347
02:28:18.120 --> 02:28:20.360
anything like that. No, it
doesn't look like it in this game.

2348
02:28:20.399 --> 02:28:22.760
You know, it looks like a
visually upgraded version of the old NFL Blitz

2349
02:28:22.879 --> 02:28:26.879
like old four player, like turbo
bars at the bottom and you know,

2350
02:28:26.680 --> 02:28:31.719
versus screen codes and and all that
sort of stuff. So you know,

2351
02:28:31.040 --> 02:28:33.920
it looks like whoever's making it is
like similar to what they did with the

2352
02:28:35.000 --> 02:28:37.479
NBA Jam, Like they're looking to
hit the same notes and kind of do

2353
02:28:37.600 --> 02:28:41.399
the right thing. A lot of
the plays come right out of Bliss ninety

2354
02:28:41.520 --> 02:28:46.920
nine, but you know, and
then looking at it being played and looking

2355
02:28:46.959 --> 02:28:50.200
at you see the receiver's flashing,
so you can tell it's probably the same

2356
02:28:50.239 --> 02:28:52.360
style of point and shoot passing that
they would use in that original in the

2357
02:28:52.399 --> 02:28:56.239
original games. But he doesn't jump. I don't know, he doesn't jump.

2358
02:28:56.799 --> 02:29:01.319
It's gonna have to reformulate your entire
blitztress if you can't jump, they

2359
02:29:01.360 --> 02:29:03.920
can't jump. There's something how many
how many dudes are on the field,

2360
02:29:03.959 --> 02:29:07.000
you know what, seven on seven
jump jump passes their pre order bonus.

2361
02:29:07.520 --> 02:29:11.879
Fuck. But they're putting those codes
inbody, so it's fine, but only

2362
02:29:13.120 --> 02:29:15.840
at target. Yeah, So this
is kind of you know, like I

2363
02:29:15.959 --> 02:29:20.040
think some people thought that this game
was dead because, like the the story

2364
02:29:20.079 --> 02:29:24.159
that I wrote came out when when
it did come out, like Mark Turmel

2365
02:29:24.280 --> 02:29:26.680
was still working at Tiberon and he
has since left and gone to Zinga,

2366
02:29:26.719 --> 02:29:31.159
I believe so. I think some
people thought that the game died when he

2367
02:29:31.360 --> 02:29:35.440
left because he is the NFL Blitz
and NBA Jam dude, and that he

2368
02:29:35.760 --> 02:29:39.559
has basically just been burying these properties
their unearthing as they come out. Did

2369
02:29:39.600 --> 02:29:41.920
you know the new NBA jame came
out. I wouldn't be. I wouldn't

2370
02:29:41.959 --> 02:29:46.239
blame you if you didn't know that, because that game just kind of yeah,

2371
02:29:46.319 --> 02:29:48.719
and just to like kind of yeah, you know what is it's it's

2372
02:29:50.000 --> 02:29:52.319
we're mid October now, right,
games come out in January. Like I

2373
02:29:52.520 --> 02:29:56.360
kind of liked the idea of announcing
a game and turning around this quickly.

2374
02:29:56.799 --> 02:30:00.559
But you know, they're not going
to spend any real time promoted that game.

2375
02:30:01.479 --> 02:30:03.600
Well, I don't know if they're
putting it on disc. Maybe they

2376
02:30:03.639 --> 02:30:05.760
will, who knows. It's it's
just such a weird thing like that,

2377
02:30:05.079 --> 02:30:09.479
just to say it will even be
fully functional like that NBA Jam, it's

2378
02:30:09.559 --> 02:30:11.520
kind of kind of broken. Yeah, it is kind of broken in some

2379
02:30:11.680 --> 02:30:16.520
spots for sure, I don't know, but it looks enough like NFL Blitz

2380
02:30:16.600 --> 02:30:20.600
that I'm very excited. It seems
like DA's attentions are elsewhere right now.

2381
02:30:20.079 --> 02:30:24.920
They got that MMO, between that
MMO and that first person shooter. Yeah,

2382
02:30:26.159 --> 02:30:28.440
yeah, obviously this is the sports
group, so that's a slightly different

2383
02:30:28.440 --> 02:30:35.159
thing. But i EA seems kind
of like it's not just like, oh,

2384
02:30:35.239 --> 02:30:37.280
obviously these are big things for them. In a lot of writing,

2385
02:30:37.879 --> 02:30:41.200
they seemed distracted. They're waiting to
give like the amount of attention that I

2386
02:30:41.280 --> 02:30:46.360
feel like I've seen for EA properties
that are not those uh, doesn't seem

2387
02:30:46.399 --> 02:30:50.079
that focused. Well. Yeah,
it was interesting going to the thing that

2388
02:30:50.120 --> 02:30:54.000
they had in Vegas where I mean, Battlefield was there, but it was

2389
02:30:54.159 --> 02:30:58.159
the stuff from Games Calm mostly.
They didn't really dwell on that game very

2390
02:30:58.239 --> 02:31:01.399
much there at all, and it
was about the kind of other stuff they

2391
02:31:01.440 --> 02:31:05.079
had coming up, and it was
weird, like it felt like Crazy Worlds

2392
02:31:05.120 --> 02:31:09.799
like I'm at this EA event and
Battlefield's not really the focus and Old Republic

2393
02:31:09.879 --> 02:31:13.239
isn't here at all. This is
great. I'm gonna go play Need for

2394
02:31:13.280 --> 02:31:16.399
Speed. I'm gonna go play Syndicate
like like Syndicate. You know again,

2395
02:31:16.520 --> 02:31:20.079
I think Syndicate looks like it.
It's got a real shot like it looks

2396
02:31:20.120 --> 02:31:24.559
pretty awesome. Mass Fact three played
that multiplayer stuff. I think what's the

2397
02:31:24.680 --> 02:31:28.760
date eighteen? Still can't talk about
that, okay, but all those details

2398
02:31:28.760 --> 02:31:33.879
are out there, so go,
yeah, do something. Go read the

2399
02:31:33.920 --> 02:31:35.200
internet. Go read the internet.
I guess about that, and then come

2400
02:31:35.239 --> 02:31:37.559
back on the twenty seventh and I'll
give you a thumbs up for a thumbs

2401
02:31:37.600 --> 02:31:43.239
down. What do you think?
Thanks, scary Larry. Yeah, they'll

2402
02:31:43.239 --> 02:31:48.600
come back because some cheek cold po
tips. You want big head, if

2403
02:31:48.600 --> 02:31:52.120
you want to show field goal percentage, hit the pass button once and then

2404
02:31:52.159 --> 02:31:54.639
pressed down. How do I get
to the minus? There are cheat there

2405
02:31:54.680 --> 02:31:58.920
is there's cheat codes in the what
we saw on the footage, which yeah,

2406
02:31:58.959 --> 02:32:01.559
yeah, so imagine that I'll be
you know, that's traditionally that's where

2407
02:32:01.959 --> 02:32:05.159
you would turn off computer assistance or
turn on field goal percentage or big heads

2408
02:32:05.280 --> 02:32:09.479
or any of that stuff. Then
be turbo two on two or you think

2409
02:32:09.520 --> 02:32:11.440
they'll they'll ratchet it up to three, three, four and four. But

2410
02:32:11.639 --> 02:32:15.239
the way the hut, the way
that you guys is drawn, it looks

2411
02:32:15.239 --> 02:32:18.760
like there's room for four turbo meters. So I measure system. Yeah,

2412
02:32:18.840 --> 02:32:20.239
so two on two, okay,
so you know think it'll be like four

2413
02:32:20.559 --> 02:32:24.399
four. Uh? In fact,
I mean if they are, if they're

2414
02:32:24.440 --> 02:32:28.319
sticking to Bliss the way Bliss has
been made, you want to play a

2415
02:32:28.360 --> 02:32:30.680
one on one you don't even you
don't even want to play that games,

2416
02:32:31.360 --> 02:32:35.440
Yeah, because the loose player without
the ball on offense, you know,

2417
02:32:35.600 --> 02:32:37.920
you can kind of play receiver,
but you're mostly just kind of pushing other

2418
02:32:37.000 --> 02:32:41.200
dudes down, and it changes a
lot of really weird stuff about the game

2419
02:32:41.239 --> 02:32:46.600
that makes it like a little less
skillful in a sense. I would say

2420
02:32:46.639 --> 02:32:50.040
the games that game is not enough
of a football game to really support multiple

2421
02:32:50.120 --> 02:32:54.079
live players. You want to be
passing to yourself and having two defenders out

2422
02:32:54.120 --> 02:32:56.799
there, like if you know what
the plays are, it's it's easy enough

2423
02:32:56.799 --> 02:33:01.079
to bust up plays when when you're
one person, uh, just kind of

2424
02:33:01.079 --> 02:33:03.639
being able to pick out what's being
called and know what the formations look like.

2425
02:33:03.760 --> 02:33:07.280
If you have two players, you're
just fucking breaking every single play as

2426
02:33:07.319 --> 02:33:09.959
it starts. Uh, when you
did that tournament, was that one on

2427
02:33:11.040 --> 02:33:13.520
one? Yeah? Okay, because
when I did that tournament, it was

2428
02:33:13.600 --> 02:33:16.680
before Blitz was a four player game. The first Blitz was a two player

2429
02:33:16.719 --> 02:33:20.719
game, and then for Blitz ninety
nine they added four player, So which

2430
02:33:20.760 --> 02:33:24.399
which which cabinet did you get ninety
nine? So it was the four player

2431
02:33:24.920 --> 02:33:28.040
So technically, by winning the tournament, I want a Blitz machine, which

2432
02:33:28.040 --> 02:33:31.600
would have been the old one,
but then they said, like, hey,

2433
02:33:31.159 --> 02:33:35.319
would you be willing to wait two
months and get the new one instead?

2434
02:33:35.399 --> 02:33:39.840
Yeah? Okay, I guess.
And that's the one that has the

2435
02:33:39.959 --> 02:33:43.200
N sixty four memory slight on it. Yeah, so I can plays on

2436
02:33:43.239 --> 02:33:48.399
the N sixty four and on the
control pack. Wow, I forgot about

2437
02:33:48.399 --> 02:33:50.479
that. I think it's got a
door that opens up mechanized thing because they

2438
02:33:50.520 --> 02:33:52.879
want to keep it closed most of
the times when people can't jam gum in

2439
02:33:52.920 --> 02:33:58.559
it. But apparently those things got
gum jammed in them all the time,

2440
02:33:58.639 --> 02:34:03.719
and you know what's say and gum
and that's that's like the ultra rare version

2441
02:34:03.840 --> 02:34:09.159
of like the neo geo set up
with the memory the memory, because those

2442
02:34:09.200 --> 02:34:11.639
are slightly more common. So are
you gonna this inspired? Do you feel

2443
02:34:11.639 --> 02:34:16.360
an itch to power that thing back
up? Start playing some Blitz and even

2444
02:34:16.399 --> 02:34:18.520
if maybe I mean it's it's you
know, it's one of those things that

2445
02:34:18.559 --> 02:34:20.879
I played so much of it that
getting it to come back is not the

2446
02:34:20.920 --> 02:34:26.719
hard part. So not that just
for it's finny people that are just like,

2447
02:34:26.600 --> 02:34:31.040
yeah, it's really as good as
the people you have around on the

2448
02:34:31.079 --> 02:34:33.879
internet, you know, just plugging
the internet to it, play somebody else

2449
02:34:33.920 --> 02:34:37.040
with the blitz and okay, I'll
do that. Just link it up to

2450
02:34:37.159 --> 02:34:41.440
that grid machine, right, and
then it'll all works. Trying to get

2451
02:34:41.440 --> 02:34:43.920
me to bring the Blitz machine in. That thing's gonna be That screen is

2452
02:34:45.000 --> 02:34:48.559
real big, Yeah, it's it's
it's the NBAHM cabinet basically, you know,

2453
02:34:48.639 --> 02:34:54.319
but probably a little yeah, but
just with the you know, the

2454
02:34:54.639 --> 02:34:56.680
moistness of that backbar area and all
that time. I'm not I'm not gonna

2455
02:34:56.680 --> 02:35:00.719
bring it in to kill it all
beat up. That's bringing your what's make

2456
02:35:00.920 --> 02:35:03.440
make make him come to your house. I spent a long time look about

2457
02:35:03.760 --> 02:35:07.120
arcade syrts this weekend. It's a
dying it's a dying dying. Yeah,

2458
02:35:07.280 --> 02:35:11.719
it's it's a gardener still makes Nope, it's a real sad state of affairs.

2459
02:35:11.719 --> 02:35:16.079
They're just there. You can't manufacture
CRTs anymore because it is lead in

2460
02:35:16.159 --> 02:35:20.280
the coating on the senior T to
prevent the radiation from the number of CRTs

2461
02:35:20.280 --> 02:35:24.719
are available that you purpose, they're
only going to be less CRTs from here

2462
02:35:24.799 --> 02:35:28.680
on out. A couple of people
still make them, but apparently they're ship

2463
02:35:28.959 --> 02:35:33.559
like some like the Chinese manufacturers still
will actually produce new ones, but apparently

2464
02:35:33.600 --> 02:35:35.319
they're really no good. And is
there a way to convert him and hook

2465
02:35:35.360 --> 02:35:39.280
up an LCD. Uh, you
can hook up an LCD, but the

2466
02:35:39.559 --> 02:35:43.920
resolution on it is so different that
for older games, they just don't look

2467
02:35:45.399 --> 02:35:48.360
they don't get the blur that a
CRT would give you. So everything is

2468
02:35:48.479 --> 02:35:50.799
real sharp. Fine with that,
actually it's sharp edges. I mean,

2469
02:35:50.879 --> 02:35:54.239
yeah, it's a taste name.
It's definitely like an analog versus digital kind

2470
02:35:54.239 --> 02:35:56.360
of. It's just one of those
like if you're at the point of having

2471
02:35:56.559 --> 02:36:00.520
an arcade cabinet, like you want, right, are you gonna you weren't

2472
02:36:00.559 --> 02:36:03.360
want to drop an LCD in't your
Defender machine. You're you're you're chasing,

2473
02:36:03.479 --> 02:36:07.040
You're chasing the authentic experience. So
like, yeah, it's totally you know,

2474
02:36:07.200 --> 02:36:09.559
usable and livable with a digital PA, but but to me, it's

2475
02:36:09.559 --> 02:36:13.879
it's not too far off from putting
those led lights into pinball machines. Well,

2476
02:36:15.159 --> 02:36:18.120
yeah, it's a little less cosmetic, I think because the actual hard

2477
02:36:18.200 --> 02:36:20.440
part, and not to spend too
much time on this, itet to blow

2478
02:36:20.479 --> 02:36:24.079
up to the full screen. No, it's it's try and find a four

2479
02:36:24.159 --> 02:36:28.600
by three LCD screen to chopping there. So some people are actually turning buying

2480
02:36:28.680 --> 02:36:33.959
big enough ones where you can turn
it vertically so that the width of the

2481
02:36:33.040 --> 02:36:37.159
screen is the four by three point. It's just really weird, uh finding

2482
02:36:37.239 --> 02:36:41.520
that stuff. So they actually do
sell some arcade LCD screens that are four

2483
02:36:41.559 --> 02:36:46.440
by three that'll run in E GA
and CGA and stuff like that. But

2484
02:36:46.520 --> 02:36:48.879
I don't really know, and they're
like four hundred bucks, so I don't

2485
02:36:48.879 --> 02:36:50.040
I don't really understand what's happening.
It's just sad to look at it.

2486
02:36:50.159 --> 02:36:54.239
Be like once these go, that's
right, that's you will no longer find

2487
02:36:54.280 --> 02:36:58.760
those Patrick any other news highlights you
want to bring up here? All right,

2488
02:37:00.079 --> 02:37:03.879
good, because we are out of
time. Uh, games out this

2489
02:37:03.920 --> 02:37:09.440
week, Batman's out this week.
You should probably play Batman. Layton games

2490
02:37:09.479 --> 02:37:13.399
out this week, lad He's out
this week. Also Day pay Day pay

2491
02:37:13.479 --> 02:37:18.159
Back payback past Ratching, Ratchen Clink, All for one, Rock Smith SIMS

2492
02:37:18.239 --> 02:37:22.000
three, Pets, Professor Layton and
The Last Specter, Power Up Heroes,

2493
02:37:22.200 --> 02:37:26.959
Family Feud twenty twelve, Minute to
Win It, Bigfoot, King of Crush,

2494
02:37:28.840 --> 02:37:33.000
Prices Right the Decades, Tropico four
for three, sixty uh, Skylanders

2495
02:37:33.799 --> 02:37:39.920
Jane's Advanced Strike Fighter. On Xbox
Live Arcade, there's Dungeon Defenders and Bejeweled

2496
02:37:39.000 --> 02:37:46.639
three, as well as the Days
X Missing Link DLC campaign. On PSN

2497
02:37:46.680 --> 02:37:50.399
there's Ocabu, Rocket Birds, Hard
Boiled Chicken, pay Day, The Heist,

2498
02:37:50.680 --> 02:37:56.120
Dungeon Defenders, Real Steel, Beat
Hazard Ultra and Salmon Max Beyond Time

2499
02:37:56.200 --> 02:37:58.959
and Space Beat Hazards p S three. Uh. Yeah, Beat Hazard Ultra.

2500
02:38:00.360 --> 02:38:01.760
Interesting, that's serious, Sam,
Did you say that? Yeah?

2501
02:38:01.799 --> 02:38:07.079
I didn't, Oh, but yeah, serious Sam. Random Encounters on Steam

2502
02:38:07.479 --> 02:38:11.079
that's next week. That's next week. I thought it was this week.

2503
02:38:11.120 --> 02:38:13.520
I think it's next week. Okay, And that's the which which one of

2504
02:38:13.559 --> 02:38:18.760
the based based rpg of course I
did. Sorry, it's next week.

2505
02:38:18.639 --> 02:38:22.159
I didn't look. I didn't look
up seeing Steam stuff, so I didn't

2506
02:38:22.159 --> 02:38:26.079
know either way, I did,
I didn't know. H I got I

2507
02:38:26.159 --> 02:38:28.799
gotta cut emails, no time for
emails. There's no time for emails.

2508
02:38:28.879 --> 02:38:33.719
One email. It's the best email. I see, we don't have time.

2509
02:38:33.000 --> 02:38:37.159
Crazy, this is the best email? Well whatever, whatever, how

2510
02:38:37.159 --> 02:38:41.319
would be those email? Okay,
it's gonna be about Batman? Uh?

2511
02:38:41.479 --> 02:38:46.079
Kurt Myers in Island, New Jersey? Am I saying that? Right?

2512
02:38:46.760 --> 02:38:50.040
I don't know how I spell it? I S E L I N.

2513
02:38:50.559 --> 02:38:56.639
Yes, sure Island. I thought
maybe you was. Hey, guys,

2514
02:38:56.120 --> 02:38:58.920
just wondering, do you think Batman
would have sold better if they timed along

2515
02:39:00.200 --> 02:39:03.719
with the new Batman movie next summer? Not saying it won't sound well now,

2516
02:39:03.079 --> 02:39:09.040
but it would be in a dead
spot, probably out of the super

2517
02:39:09.079 --> 02:39:13.200
competitive holiday season, and everyone would
be swept up in Batman fever. Not

2518
02:39:13.360 --> 02:39:16.799
that there should ever be a time
where there isn't. Batman Fever does do

2519
02:39:16.879 --> 02:39:22.399
the movie was really create a palpable
sense of Batmania? That's I think it

2520
02:39:22.399 --> 02:39:24.559
would. Maybe would it sell one
more copy than it's currently going to sell?

2521
02:39:24.680 --> 02:39:28.920
Maybe? Maybe? At this point, the Arkham brand is is done

2522
02:39:28.959 --> 02:39:33.159
blockbuster status. Like Warner Brothers putting
it out in mid October is them saying

2523
02:39:33.680 --> 02:39:37.959
this can stand with the other big
games. It's such a different take on

2524
02:39:37.079 --> 02:39:41.120
Batman than what Christopher Nolan's doing with
it. I mean, this is comic

2525
02:39:41.159 --> 02:39:45.200
book Batman. Yeah. And also
if you put it on your the you

2526
02:39:45.239 --> 02:39:46.760
know you start, you're gonna assume
it's a movie license game, which people

2527
02:39:46.760 --> 02:39:50.200
have a bad taste for, like
they've people have been burned in the past

2528
02:39:50.239 --> 02:39:54.479
of those they thing they had to
actively work against that perception with the last

2529
02:39:54.520 --> 02:39:56.639
game, right, and when it
comes to Batman, like, I don't

2530
02:39:56.719 --> 02:40:01.360
really want an abundance of Batman related
stuff, but this game. Every couple

2531
02:40:01.399 --> 02:40:05.280
of years, want a bat Vacuum
perfect, Like that's enough Batman. Batman

2532
02:40:05.440 --> 02:40:09.000
shows up. It is. It
is probably the best form of Batman that

2533
02:40:09.120 --> 02:40:11.239
is available. I haven't seen any
of those movies. It's not about it's

2534
02:40:11.239 --> 02:40:16.440
not about volume, it's about quality. Yeah, I'll take a high quality

2535
02:40:16.479 --> 02:40:18.680
Batman game any day of the year. But I don't really care about what

2536
02:40:18.719 --> 02:40:24.120
they tied into. Isn't Isn't there
some there's like some Batman blu ray out

2537
02:40:24.479 --> 02:40:28.399
though. Oh yeah, it's a
there's an animated Dark Knight for Night or

2538
02:40:28.120 --> 02:40:31.959
something. I don't know. Yeah, there's a yeah, yeah, there's

2539
02:40:31.000 --> 02:40:35.440
some there's some other Batman stuff out. But the Batman. Thing you care

2540
02:40:35.479 --> 02:40:37.920
about is on a video game console
and then three weeks on a PC.

2541
02:40:39.079 --> 02:40:43.920
There's always some kind of Batman out
there. Yeah, I Will's phone calls

2542
02:40:43.959 --> 02:40:46.079
him Batman. Now. I like
seeing him get really excited about that.

2543
02:40:46.239 --> 02:40:52.760
Yeah, he's not Batman corn in
Sirie. He is Batman stupid. All

2544
02:40:52.840 --> 02:40:56.159
right, that's it for emails.
Thanks everyone who wrote in mostly about Batman,

2545
02:40:56.360 --> 02:41:00.520
so all right, and we actually
covered a good majority of those questions.

2546
02:41:00.600 --> 02:41:03.680
It's talking about Batman, so we're
pretty good. BombCast at time bomb

2547
02:41:03.760 --> 02:41:07.440
quinn dot com. That wasn't one
of the questions. Spoiler can shit.

2548
02:41:09.239 --> 02:41:13.760
Uh. That's it for this week's
episode. Thank you guys for talking in

2549
02:41:13.879 --> 02:41:18.719
this hot room, and thank you
guys for listening. We'll be back next

2550
02:41:18.799 --> 02:41:20.440
Tuesday with another edition of The Giant
Podcast.