Hey, everybody, welcome to Rose Pricks today. As you know, it's
Thursday, It's time to take down Pump rules andanderpump rules. This is I
don't know what to say. I have a I mean, you do know
what to say because I have never I have never in all my years as
a southern lady from Waco, which I am. You guys, well,
I know that's hard to believe, but it's true. I mean I was
telling Stephanie like we were texting and stuff, I was like, I cried
at this. I actually felt so frustrated by this episode. And fine,
and now I'm back to believing it's real, so we can take that off
the table. I'm not going to try to convince anyone this isn't real anymore.
I mean, I think I believe it's real. I just believe.
I definitely believe that some people already absolutely knew what was going on. Oh
absolutely. I think Arianna is one of them, to be honest, but
we'll get to that. Well, I don't think she knew the extent,
but I when when Katie, like the Katie stuff, like just it just
struck me to my core because it was so awful and mean and the gall
to just to like, just to get this off my chest, the gall
of roquet of Rachel to to talk about, to pretend like she has a
mental illness and had to go away from Mental Illness Awareness Month or whatever,
and then to be the bully and the nightmare of a socio psychopath that she
is makes my skin hurt. She's just terrible. And the fact that anybody
was taken in by her, it's just you're just wanting to cheer for Katie.
She's like the the person in a horror movie that knows who the killer
is and nobody will listen to them. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
yes, okay, all right, let's start. Let's just start.
I did notice when they did like they did the you know at the beginning
of every episode, they kind of show you the end of the episode.
So when Ariana and Rockhelle were talking, like, I swear Rockhell's eyes or
black? Is that a weird thing to notice her eyes are like manson black.
I agree, you saw it. I saw it. I was like,
something is very wrong with this girl. Yes, I swear to you.
It's like like some sort of missing the empathy Gia, I swear to
you, And I think Tom. Honestly, this is the only thing where
I go back and maybe it's like I think he grew the mustache on purpose
to look like the villain that we were talking about. I think he was
like, oh, I'll grow this weird month's mustache for the season. I
can see his like cocaine to eyes, making this decision. Oh, he's
so coked out he is. We can just say that, right, he's
just on code. He seems so coked out. There's noan's adderall. They
can say whatever they want, but it's it's coked. The way he's grinding.
I mean, there's there's a part in this episode where he's grind he's
like chewing his own cud. Yes, like a fucked up camel, like
a fucked up camel, and like a seven camel on cocaine, like a
camel if you just take you take a sweet camel. You go to the
Middle East, you find a sweet and sweet camel. You don't give it
cocaine. But if it looked like it was on cocaine, Lawrence is my
way. Ah, but zomby do me. That is Samantha from Sex in
the City. In case you didn't see Sex in the City to the movie.
Ah but zomby zoo me. Yeah, he's terrible. The statioed villain
crazy like tie you down on the train tracks, yes, villain. And
then they put in their pot they're matching disgusting polyester shirts that will get to
with Schwartz smelling bad, because of course you smell bad. It's you're in
a disgusting hot polyester shirt. Oh my god, I have so much to
say. Okay, okay, let's start with something positive. The Diamond Donkey,
the donkey that they have, the little baby pony named Diamond is very
cute. On Sunday, we go still got to feed this donkey, feed
the donkey, and then we get back to the show You've got a Friend
coming Diamond. Aronnie does it though with the yeah, the little it rolls
out of like a little rumba yeah, And so it just comes out and
the kid's just there and he's like, you've got do you speak donkey.
If you don't speak donkey, Diamond's not gonna understand what is saying. Oh,
rolls off. Okay, all of it so, and then nobody cares.
You know, it's funny like she's doing the consultation with them about the
sandwich stuff. No one's here for that. We don't have time for that.
They made it an extra fifteen minute episode. We don't. We don't
need a consultation about the sandwiches. What you mean from Penny? No,
first went from Vanderpirs Lisa. Yeah, and I was like, I'm gonna
say something controversial here. I don't think Lisa Vanderpump needs to be in the
show anymore. No, of course, not beyond her. She she it's
always this weird you know what it's like, it's like on the voice when
that they have a host still in your roof, always like you could just
have an automated voice, so you know, right say like coming coming to
the stage, like it's just not necessary anymore for her to she don't got
to be there. We get it, We get her at the end,
like her birthday, the big to do. Oh here she is that actually,
and then she's going to give a speech. I love that speech because
they thought it was the finale. Yeah, it's so funny about that fake
bullshit wrapping it up right. So then all that so then dummy and asshole
goes shopping and I it took me a while to even figure out who who
asshole Charlie, that's Charlie. I was like, who is that one?
Oh that's so funny, Yah, Charlie. No one cares. Roquell just
going on whatever. But we got to just jump to her buying. So
you know, the lightning bowl is the stand of all image. He has
a lightning bowl in his little sand of all and the most extras is banned.
Um they have. That's his like little symbol he created it for himself
is a lightning bolt. Right, So, so did did Roquell buy him
the necklace or did she buy herself the necklace to match with his necklace?
I think she bought herself the necklace for seven hundred and eighty dollars that they
acted like was no big deal because that's her birthday. Shouldn't money yourself,
bitch, don't even come on you. You know what from none, I'm
gonna get real gold because I gets lightning. And you could tell how annoyed
the people there were. They were. They hated them. Oh my god,
the people that work there, they're like, okay, here's your lightning
bolt. This is so awful. Okay, so she gets that whatever,
then it goes it shows us pops over to Schwarts and Sandy's, which,
let me remind you, guys, I've been there. It's not that great.
Do not go. Save your money for the sandwich place. Schwarts and
Sandy sucks. Okay, obviously we know that, uh small, I don't,
okay, And this is a little peak behind the curtain, but I
don't know, Like I feel like you're jumping around a little bit, and
I have notes, but I don't know if you've skipped them. No,
I'm going straight in order, but I think sometimes I just tell you,
like, as it goes, because it goes back and forth and you just
kind of keep it all together. So I'm just going as it goes.
But go ahead if you go. I just went to where Ariana and Katie
are at their shop. They're too small shop. Did you skip that?
No, that's next, okay, see girl, No, this is I'm
on it. I watch it twice. I do what you do for love's
mind. I watch it for fun and then I go back and take notes.
So that is the scene, the scene that you were going to skip,
where they work towards and Sandy's going. Can you believe it? How
can you believe? How great are places. That's when Sanda bal looks like
he's chewing his cut. That's when I was I literally wrote down like a
fucking fuck it like a camel, no offense to camels. Right. But
then this is important before you get to Ariana, because here he's setting up
that Ariana is a bad person again. He said up this whole conversation with
Schwartz, saying like, I don't know, man, like I do little
things for our relationship, like I buy toilet paper and stuff I get,
like I care about the house. She never even thinks to do things like
that. She's he's setting up why it's okay that he did this to her?
Oh yeah, yeah, it's so obvious that I literally didn't even write
it down because I was just like, he's ridiculous, right, Okay.
So then we get to the sandwich shop and she she is because we're being
honest to us. She is a little bit of a drag. Sometimes we
love her. I loved her both. Yeah, Arianna's I mean, I
do I do say they don't seem like a great couple. I mean I
do think at this point, like we can all see something. We can
see the writing on the wall not just because he's a nightmare of a person,
but because they really don't connect. They don't seem to like have a
great intimacy. Is far from the outside right, No, but I think
that he the way he acts, probably with her in private, is he
probably whenever she has said I'm I'm assuming, whenever she's brought it up,
I think he gaslights her and goes like, no, no, we're fine,
we're fine, we're fine, we shouldn't break up. You can see
it in the way that he treats her. And then so then she's like,
Okay, well, I guess we're you know, it's not great,
but we've been together a long time. Sure, I don't think they should
be together. But I but the roquel, I mean, cheating is and
behind the scenes and with her friend, like it's all horrendous. Oh my
god, he's absolutely vile, no question, but just taking that since she
doesn't know that yet allegedly, and we're going as we go, like even
just there, even the way they stand together, they don't really hold.
They're not very like I don't know, they just don't. They don't seem
connected. But that's because of him. She doesn't know why she probably feels
it. There's probably some level of her that's like, uh, I don't
know, I wish we could work on this. She has, she says
that in this episode two. But he You're right, he's totally gaslighting her.
I was like, what's all you? It's all you. You don't
want to do anything. Ever, he's talking to her, and he's such
a like he's such an emotional abuser, like blaming her. I mean he
does that throughout the whole thing, but just completely blaming her for everything,
saying like, we didn't even take a picture. This is that scene.
He goes, we didn't even take a picture together at the wedding, Like
you've been together twelve years. If you didn't take a picture together at the
wedding, it's not that. And then she tries to say, well,
she's just being reasonable. She's like, well, I don't think taking pictures
together means, you know, not taking a picture means we're not intimate,
and he's just like a little baby. He's like, yes, it does.
And then he goes, see, you're always arguing with me. See
he's setting up exactly the thing that we talked about. The guys do that
joke we used to have about that. It was like, yeah, you're
disgusting. It was like, oh, gay, honey, you need some
sunlight. That's what she's doing, right, And then well she's yeah,
he says, He's like, well, we only have sex four times a
year. It sounds like a lot to me. Plenty, I think.
And then but then she makes a point where she's like, well, we
need to spend time together. You need to spend time with me. Like
basically, she's saying, you're always out somewhere. Remember. Then she goes,
you can't telepath your dick into my vagina from the abbey love. That's
exactly right. She says, I can't do that. And then she goes,
well, he's like, what do you We gotta connect and she's like,
I don't know. We spend time, we cooked together, we listen
to Warre and Drew, you know, the music together. And he's like,
what do you think what do you think connecting is? She says no,
he says I don't. He says, well, that's not quality time.
And she's like, that's exactly what quality time means, right, And
he goes and then she goes, that's your definition of quality time? Yeah,
And then the producer's like, okay, Tom, well what's your definition,
and he's like taking mushrooms, yeah, watching the sunset, skinny dipping.
Oh look, and then it's it's he's throwing her under the bus because
he's always complained that she's not like outdoorsy enough whenever she's like us, you
know, she wants to go do karaoke with her gay friends, Like she's
not. She doesn't want to climb something. So like it's okay, and
he's and he throws her and he's like yeah, you know, like stuff
like adrenaline whatever, he use lushrooms and watch he wants and so I put
that in all caps. He wants to do drugs. Ding ding ding there
It is right. He only connects because you know, and I don't know
if this was the scene. This may have come later. This probably came
later, but yeah, this did come later, but it did. It
was interesting when Ariana was like they did a flashback to kind of how me
and Ariana was. Yeah, this is way later, but to Kristen,
but we'll get to that. But it made me think about it's like,
yeah, that's how Sandoval connects. He loved you. He fell madly in
love with you, Ariana because you were forbidden you he had a girlfriend,
right of eight years or some shit, right, Yeah, He's like,
I like to do a lot of stuff. I like to do a lot
of different things for quality time, Like like I like to like do mushrooms
or do ecstasy or do cocaine. Like why I'm any time is cheating on
you with somebody else and like what Yeah, quality time is like fucking around
you know, just so victimy. It's disgusting. I hate it a nightmare.
Okay, speaking of victimy and disgusting. James, I know he's the
hero of the season. Don't I get it how a lot of people are
saying that online because he's funny at least he's not. See, the way
the show works is because everybody's so terrible that whoever's the least terrible that season
is the hero. And kind of James, really, I mean he's terrible.
He threw a drink in towards his face. Although we kind of all,
I don't see how he's great at all. He's not my hero,
not my hero, James, James Kennedy. Yeah, he's Sibyl dabbling with
his DJ equipment so my husband, who you may know is John Taylor from
Durandaran was in. We came in to watch it and he was like is
he fucking serious? What? And I'm like, yep, yeah, I'm
so nervous. I'm out opening for Caspian or whatever. It's like, it's
so weird to see my name that brought next to Cascade and then the editors
so shady. It was so funny. You see Cascade and then it goes
all the way down the flyer into the fine print to find James Kennedy.
Do you remember when Usael used to do that bit about that they're like coming
the you know, the Illusion Festival. It's like something. It's always some
dumb festival and then they have the big name. There's one big name,
but then it's like the tiny Papa's, the Papa Smurfs, the red elvis
Is. It gets smaller and smaller. Fans you've never heard of, right,
the number games It always always I think it was Andy Samberg. That
was a lonely island thing and it made me laugh every time. But this
is exactly what this is. Like, his little tiny name at the very
bottom, no one's It's like at four o'clock when the festive like when it
opens or like eleven am. Games will spin his like tech, he didn't
even right he saw the night before. It's like two days prior at an
airport Hilton. Yeah, I'm really nervous though. I hope you guys a
lock. You know, I'm James Kennedy. They're like, good night,
it's ten am, James. It's fine, but yeah, yeah, go
ahead. I was just gonna say this part kind of sealed him not being
anybody's hero. When his poor girlfriend is just like yeah, he's like,
yeah, I'm doing so great and uh and she's like, yeah, you
know, I mean I do. I don't really love like your reactions to
things, like just how crazy angry you get, and I do think that
you should go to therapy. And he's like therapy. That have you seen
the people in therapy like in the movies they're like people who work at the
coffee bean, like look at their life and then look at mine. I'm
doing great. She's like, well, I mean you could talk about your
childhood traumas. Nope, have any like it definitely has fellow traumas which they've
dealt with on the show. I don't understand. He's like, oh god,
I don't understand how he's a non sober alcoholic. And he's like,
don't need any kind of therapy, don't need any help doing great. It's
almost irresponsible of the show to allow him to do that. Somebody side note
on Whispering posted their cameo. You know, remember cameo James has he so
he did their guy. I don't know how much he costs. I should
have looked, but he did their cameo and he's out of his mind.
He's he's like, oh he it's a birthday. Happy birthday. I hope
you listen to my music. I hope you lacka hope. It is about
the PASTA, it's about the Pastam James Kennedy good night and I people were
like, love it, love it so much, And I just wrote that
is terrifying. I do wish you a happy birthday, but honestly, that
really is going to enter my dreams. I do wish you a happy birthday.
I don't want you to think that this is about your birthday and jealous
of a way. I'm a birthday person too, like I get it.
Happy happy birthday, but please never post anything like that. Again, he's
off the rails at it's insane and if anybody says anything to him, he's
so defensive. Oh he's and he's very mean through the years. I guess
this is just like his you know, because he had that calm conversation with
with Roquell last time on the last episode, like he seemed like he was
the voice of reason. I think that's what happens. Anytime James does what
he's supposed to do. You're like, oh, he's in there. There's
a good there's a normal guy in there. But you know, um,
okay, so then what do you what's what do you have next? Okay?
So then I have Tom and Tom talking about going to the sandwich party
and how Katie's still mad at Tom, and uh, now Tom is telling
Tom Schwartz is now telling a different story. He's trying to make it like
yeah, I mean, okay, so we have this one little kid,
like I get it, like it was maybe the wrong thing to do,
but like it was no big deal. Like I'm totally over it. I
don't know why she's not over it. Yeah, he was totally faking that.
But then for a second I thought he cared, I wrote, does
he kind of care? Is he kind of care about Katy? And then
he said something and I drove, Nope, Nope, he does not.
He's such an I don't know who's worse at this point, Schwartz er Sandaval.
I think Schwartz has a little more of a conscience. But he's so
mean as well, Like through the years, he's so gaslighty. He said
terrible things about I told you Katy's weight. He goes after people's looks.
Tom Schwartz like he's really mean too, Like, I see, I need
a hero again. We said this. I'm holding out for a hero to
know. There are no grounding characters in this show. Anybody's strong and they've
got it, are fast or fret or fresh from the fight? Er I
mean, I do think there are some people that are fresh from the fight.
That's true. So maybe they're the heroes we're looking for. Maybe now
we're now I'm at the sandwich shop with the chef who's very cocky. I
have to say, this chef for someone I've never heard of. So I
had a little this was just earlier. I had a little thing where yeah,
where she comes, where she's just setting it up, and I was
like, God, the sandwich shop is small. But now, yes,
now the chef is so full of herself, Yes, she's so cocky.
I mean, I'll definitely go. But like, if Lisa vander Pump gets
a sandwich named after her, I better get one named after me. Why
nobody knows who you are? You're not famous, Lisa Vanderpump like built an
empire of restaurants and reality shows. And like, what's her name? What's
this one? Chef Connie? Her name Connie, chef Penny? I think
Penny. Any, you're right, same, You're right, it is Penny.
And it's like and she's being very okay, I want a team meeting
at five. They don't have to be in a team meeting. How you
can have a meeting with your the people? But either exactly, And she's
so thrilled with these sandwiches she's making. And I'm just saying, like,
look, I don't know sandwich connoisseur, but none of these sounded good to
me. I don't want to. I don't one or else. Try and
see Turkey, why don't try to reinvent the wheel? And it is really
small, it's like a just like a closet and same by the ways of
men cheese where you're like, Sandy's is just as small. It looks really
big on camera. I'm telling you as someone who's been there. I kept
looking for like a back room, like is there a vip, is there
another patio or something? No, it's tiny. What I love is that
all of these like restaurants are they can't hold actual any actual events, and
they have to always go to one of Lisa vander Pump's places afterwards, which
then seemed like some kind of a mansion. It's like, okay, everybody
crowd into this one room and we can we have room for one play to
sandwiches, and then afterwards, all right, let's do the real sandwiches over
at sir. And everybody's just walking around like in this open air. It's
like a freaking festival, right right. Yeah, it is so strange.
Yeah, it's like a beer like a beer run or what do they used
to call those where you like go what do you call those? Like a
beer marathon? In college, we used to do that and you would just
start at one place and then you just all together walk to different places and
get different drinks. Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about. Beer
crawl. Beer crawl. It's like a crawl. It's like a Vanderpump crawl
in your race. They can't afford their own, so they have to go
to sir, yes next door, Yes, okay? So then all right,
so um so Lisa Vanderpump comes and she gets this her sandwich named after
her or whatever, and then Lisa Vanderpump. The big story that was coming
to the sandwich shop is that Ali is going to meet Lisa Vanderpump. And
it is so anti climatic. It's just like, Okay, she meets her
and she's like, oh, hello, well she's Here's what happened. So
she's like, m So she immediately meets Ali and then they have a little
bit of a tiff because she says like she's like, I don't know if
this one does. I don't know if you're here to really support James or
if you want to sandwich I or something like that, and Ali goes,
I'm here to support m She's kind of a yeah, she's got a little
fire to her. And they look on Lisa's face like someone just stood up
to her. I was scared for everybody because Lisa's not She's not the nicest
I told you I met her at sir and she was very like hell,
I mean, this is all that's she can be difficult, so she I
guess I just didn't think like it just seemed like she was being very Lisa.
Oh yeah, she was just being Lisa, which is a little bit
just sort of. I think she's just out of think. She's all some
maybe some some home estrogen who something makes her little, I don't know,
or she's drinking perhaps maybe it's just wine, but whatever it is. But
I was very happy to see Katie and Mariana even before all this happened,
like, good for you. You're doing it, that you're using the show
to maybe do something for yourself and not just let your stupid husbands and boyfriends
do it. Like good for you. I do wish Katie would let go
of the mac dark lipstick situation that she has not let go of for twelve
seasons, but this is her look, I get it. I think she's
beautiful and I'm happy that she's doing I can't wait to support this. Okay,
So then, of course, what's her face? Has COVID Gina?
Oh uh huh and has COVID. She calls in like, I'm sorry,
I can't ye, I can't let a sorry, Yeah, I can't be
at any of your events like ever again, because like now that I've done
like eighty thousand things for my wedding, like such a good call. Oh
my god, they had to go to eighty five things like but I can't
either. I'm so sorry. I'm in Marina Dala. Yeah, then that
all have. Then the tom show up at their Bristol farms looking flowers.
Yea offense to Bristol Farms just all just look like Sandabal at the He's just
like a jankie ass Peter Brady fool. This is what they're seventy and there
his pants is horrible. Oh my god. I just and I know he's
trying to be funny. He wants us to to Oh he's sold. What
it like? What's the joke though, Like you think you're like an East
Side hipster? Like what do you think you are? I'm just curious,
sand of all, who do you think you are? I don't I really
don't get it. I mean, I'm I'm watching it and I'm appalled at
the right stuff that I'm supposed to be appalled about. But when I yes,
I don't get like, I don't understand how anybody could find anything about
Sandoval appealing, and whenever they do flashbacks, I don't. I didn't find
him appealing back then either, Like he's so gross, So I thought that
was kind of funny, though, Shorts, he's such a kiss that's once
they've moved over to stir and he's trying to kiss. He's always he's always
at the wrong time trying to say hi to Lisa. He always tries to
kiss her on the cheek organically, and it just never really works out.
I completely relate to that. There's some people that scare me and I'm always
like, oh, hi at the wrong time, huh whatever. But he
says that to her and she like pretends to listen to a voicemail. He's
like, can I get you something? She pretends a list of voicemail and
he's like, oh okay. Like he just's so in authentic that they're just
it's just so many bad people just having interactions right stetting Right, you just
don't know who to hate more at what time. I'm well, I think
I have an answer to that. It's Roquel and another boostier somehow she has
they're setting this whole thing up. They're just setting it up. So then
when Katie's mom, poor Katie's mom, she is the hero, She's the
hero. I think, yeah, Katie's mom is the hero. And yes,
no respect, she's in this episode like nobody cares, not Roquel,
not mom. No, no, yes. So he's like showing, he's
like he's pretending that. He's like, oh, well, yeah, I'm
glad we had that TALKO. You know, I really love you, but
no you don't. You don't love anybody but Sandoval in yourself. So right
right before that, this part was so going too. Is Arianna and Roquel
are talking, yeah, and why Arianna, why you're you know? Uh
so she says, listen, you know, I'm really glad you're here.
This is Arianna talking to Roquel. She goes, I'm I'm I'm really I'm
glad you came. Why Why are you glad she came? Katie's It's so
clear she doesn't like her, but you're like, yeah, I'm glad you
came. I mean, I'm understanding of Katie's feelings and you know, if
I were in her shoes bitch, you are in her shoes. I'd feel
the same way, but I also try to remind her that you're just the
same sweet Roquel. Okay, I mean, it's so weird. I done.
It was off camera when they even became really good friends. So it's
like it's very confusing to a lot of us. It's like, when did
they even become bff that she keeps referring to each other as best friends?
Well, Arianna does, Roquel doesn't, actually, but that's when they flash
back to her being mean to Kristen. That's when they flash back to her.
When Kristen comes up and she's like, hey, can you make me
a black blat? She goes, yeah, I don't really feel comfortable serving
you alcohol. This is after Ariana gas lit Kristen for an entire season saying
she didn't hook up with sand of all, when she did, it came
out that they did, right, which really makes me mad. I'm sorry,
Like, I'm pro Arianna, and I'm glad she's, you know,
doing great and spreading her wings and just just rising like the phoenix that she
is. But she was terrible to Kristen. Yeah, I believe that Kristen
was terrible to Stacy will never forget any of it. They're all just a
group of awful people. But it makes me mad when they saint to Arianna
and I love that production showed that flashback, thank you. Yeah. I
feel like they're the only ones that see, like see the truth, right,
Okay. So then so during that same scene though they say this is
important, yeah, yeah, big, Arianna is like, but you know,
you also did kind of say that you tried to kiss Tom first,
and then they show the flashback where Roquel is telling Katie, you know what,
like I tried to make out with shorts and he said no, so
like he's totally respecting your boundaries. And then Katie's like, yeah, but
you're not right. You're trying to make out with my still husband, like
bragging about it, right, But that's during that part, and then um,
now Raquel, who's so delusional, he is saying to Ariana, yeah,
like I don't even need to be friends with Katie or Lalla, like
I don't even care, Like I don't know. She said that so many
times, like nobody wants to be friends with you anyway. They never liked
you, Katie definitely never Laala never liked her that like, nobody wants her
around. No, but she's always walking around going that's fine. I love
myself, like I'm really like self actualized and like I've learned to love myself.
It's like, but nobody else has learned to love you. Oh my
god. Such a good point. And also this is the part, this
is the biggest part where everybody's jaw dropped, where she's like, She's like,
how are things the sand of all? And Arianna is like, oh,
you know, we'll work it out. Good whatever. Then she fucking
brings up the first she sex life. She brings up sex life, which
she's like, I mean, she's like, remember, I mean I told
you, like I know what it's like, but I mean, you know,
sex is important. She's schooling her. Yeah, oh yeah, I
mean I'm important. It's really important for somebody, whether it's me or you
or whoever, to be having sex with Sandoval. Someone someone should be doing
it. So I've been doing it for you because this for real? Did
you like for a second, I was like I had to rewind. I
was on whispering, I was on the I was on threads, I was
I lost my mind. I couldn't I couldn't believe it. And then when
Arianna started crying and really opening up, Oh my god, well when there
was a yeah, so she says ahead, yeah, well there's a meme
that I'm sorry, this is like to get serious for a second. There's
a meme that I just saw this like narcissistic abuse meme thing that I follow
and the basic thing was like, don't don't tell people, like, don't
tell people, don't tell your like enemies, your troubles, like trying to
get them on your side, which is what I think Ariana was doing.
I think there's a sense of Ariana when she starts talking to her about how
I don't love my own body and I feel insecure because I have cellulate and
all these things. I believe that Ariana, in some part of her subconscious
knew that Roquell was not to be trusted, and she thought, if I
am a real person in front of this person and I cry, she'll never
fuck me over. And there's this meme that went around was like people use
this kind of stuff as fodder, like they'll like, if your enemy,
don't tell them, don't don't show yourself because they use your sadness as entertainment,
which is exactly what Roquell does. Oh yeah, and you can tell
because there's so many scenes where she's laughing behind people's backs. It's so it's
insane, and I was really upset by that. That's the moment where I
was like, even when sometimes I get annoyed with Arianna for a lot of
things, in this moment, I was like, we love you, girl.
We all have the cellulate, we all have the thing that you're talking
about. It just made me so sad because I think she knows Roquell.
I think she knows that the three of them hung out a lot, she
and Sandoval, the three. I think there was some kind of makeout.
I stand by this. I just do something happened in a drug fueled night,
and I think Arianna thought that they were fine, that she and Sandoval
were fine. That you know, there's no world in which she thought they
were fucking behind her back. I guess now, I think. But I
think that's why she was saying this to Roquel, not because they're such good
friends, but because she's like, I am worried about you. I think
she knew, do you know what I'm saying? I think, like I
don't know that it's scripted so much anymore that I used to think. I
think she knew on some level that, Like, no, I don't know,
that's what I think. And so Roquel is setting this whole thing up
to try to get Arianna to break up with him. Right then she says,
She's like, I mean, are you even sexually attracted to him?
And then Arianna goes, yeah, I think she's fucking so hot, and
that's when she's like, but I don't know if he's attracted to me,
And then Roquel's like, I think it feels so sad because like I do
that to myself, and you know what, like girl, we're prettier than
we think we are, and like that translates to how we feel about ourselves,
you know. But like I needed to hell you that now that I'm
single, like I think sex is like so so, so so so important
with your boyfriend. Sorry, I'm sorry, I should have said that a
lot, and she goes, I mean, clearly, like you want to
stay in this relationship. But like for me, like I knew I should
break up with James like months before. I'm just saying I'm not trying to
say that, like you should know that. But like if I was being
really like honest with myself like months before James, because like, you know,
we weren't really having sex or whatever. But anyway, you do you
girl, But like I knew it was over and her you do her as
Janice from the Muppets. It's very like you know, and I can't even
do it. That's so good because that's kind of what she looks like to
me too, if she had at Yeah, she's such a muppet. And
so then she yeah, she's trying to pull on get them to break up.
And then when Ariana goes, I think Arianna called Onto a cheat because
I've been in this conversation before with people where I just like, it'll be
fine, it's kind of my own business, will work it out, it's
kind of Ariana said. And then Rachel let out the biggest sigh, you
know, like when your dog wants to go out, you know, and
it's just like, Soel just has this like very frustrated sigh because her little
conversation did try to get Arianna to break up with her with sand of all,
with her boyfriend, with her own boyfriend, that's right, wants no,
Well, she wants her. She wants Arianna to break up with Roquel's
boyfriend. Yes, basically what's happening exactly. So that was let me have
my boyfriend to myself that I thought was going to be on a level of
the show that I'd never seen until we got to later with Katie. But
first, really quick, the La La chat with vander Pump. Uh.
I mean I think that's where she's saying. She oh, yeah, she
wants a sperm donor. She's like, I just I want more babies.
Yeah. Ken was over the kids, like as you like the sun,
which is he's still stuck on that. They're like, yes, Ken,
we've moved on from the sandwiches. We're at a entirely different location. Oh
by the way, when when Laala is like, yeah, I just really
need a sibling for Ocean, John goes she doesn't have a fucking kid named
Ocean. I go, yeah, she does. Oh well, yeah,
and Gina has Summer Moon. They have Summer Moon and Ocean. I mean,
of course they do. Of course they do. That's what she needs
it. I love that she tries to set up like, oh, you
guys have been together so long you and Ken, do you think I could
possibly have a forty year relationship, and Vanderbumps like, yes, of course
you could, if that's what she really wants. That's what's really won't Now
I'm a beatle. Now it's well, it's like Ken and Lisa basically have
a very similar voice, which I love it because they spend so much time
together. They really do. And now I can't do an it like John
Lennon. So now that goes over to Katie, which every time she starts
going over to Katie, it's like, bitch, stop, stay away from
her, why you're so crazy? Read her alone? And she's like waiting,
I'm sorry. I started to do this, but first we have to
pop in the shorts. Smelling his shirt. He sits down and he's like,
do I smell bad? And the lady next one was like, yes,
you do smell bad. You do smell bad. And he's like,
I think it's just the new shirt smell. It's like, honey, it's
not a new shirts you never you ever do wash your shirts every time you
buy them first. I don't, of course not. So he's like,
I think it's the maybe it's the fabric mix, like you sweat a little
in a new shirt. No, it's not the new shirt, it's that
you are disgusting he's wearing it. And then he takes lemons from the table
and he rubs the lemons under his arms and then puts the lemons back.
Oh, he thinks he's so funny. I am more. And I think
he's kind of embarrassed. I think he's actually kind of geno. When someone's
like, yeah, you do really smell. That's kind of a bad moment.
And he's so insecure and lame. Oh my god, that made me
so fucking mad. Okay, all right, so then yes, now we're
on to the roquet got over and just sits down next to Katie. Katie,
minding her own business, didn't want Roquell there in the first place.
Roquell didn't go to the sandwich shop because she knew that Katie didn't want her
there. But she cannot leave her alone every time she wants, and she
always has this like blank stare on her face, like she looks so stupid.
Oh she is, she's so blank stare, and she just sits Sarah
as if she's wanted there, and she's like congratulations, and your sanches like
sanch and it's really mom. Yeah, She's like Katie's trying. She's like
thank you, but like please, She's sitting there with her friends and her
mother, just trying to enjoy the night of her opening. Maybe Katie's not
even a limelight kind of person. She's really not somebody who likes to be
in the She's not that person. So she's trying to live her life.
But Kel will not leave her alone. Then immediately starts fucking with her.
It's like, so, I guess you were mad and you were just talking
shit. Yeah, I know you're a mad And the reason I know you're
a mad is because of all your rage texts, Like you really rage text
him a bunch, but it made me so mad. I lost my mind
on that. She's like, yeah, me and Schwartz just feel oh you
and Schwartz just yeah, like he showed me all the age texting and that
really bothered him. Like it's not very nice. And also, I guess
I'm just here to tell you that like you and I don't know if you
know this, but you and Schwartz have been divorced, so like if I
make at witham, it's none of your business. Oh my god. And
Katie's like leave. She just keeps she doesn't know what to say anymore.
She's like, please just leave, leave me alone, like for no reason.
Then then so La La, it's La La and Schwartz are standing over
there on the side, and she Katie, you've ever had that feeling?
Really you can't believe what's happening, so you kind of need a witness.
She's like, are you guys seeing this? And La La whatever? I
love La La. I don't remember what she said, but I just wrote
we all need a La just like she's a gross buffoon. She's like,
oh, I see it. She's like, I'm in awe. Now I
know Lalla has not always been great either, but let's just deal with where
we are now. Because people will private message and say, you remember La
La do this, So I'm like, yes, I remember, but now
she's great, right, this moment in time is what we're dealing with.
We need her, so we need we do and this is this is the
this is a big moment. I don't know if we can. I mean,
we curse on the show, we swear on the show. She calls
her Katie fucking calls her gun and I mean, I cheered. We all
cheer a little bit. I mean she had to first, But hold on,
we're getting ahead of ourselves because first Katie's mom it starts talking and she's
like, um, because you know, Katie's upset and looking around like you
said, and going like it is are people seeing this? And so mom
has to get into it. Yes, yes, yes, she comes out
and shed she goes, well, yeah, right before she goes, do
you remember the conversation we had about staying out of his friend group? And
then everybody's like basically telling the mom to shut up. Oh, and then
Rockel just keeps her arguing, and that's when she was like, oh my
god, you're a cunt. And then so then the mom is then then
missus a missus Maloney is like I mean this is just ridiculous and blah blah
blah, and then freaking Schwartz starts arguing yeah again yes her, and then
she's and then there they were like, um, who was it? Was
it Schwartz or Sandoval is like raging so high on coke and he's like that's
not fair. Oh, someone's gonna go up against miss Maloney. Yeah,
it's so disgusting, which, by the way. Someone pointed out on whispering
that like, okay, Sandoval is like, oh, you got to have
your mom come up and fight your fights. Hello, Sandoval, he borrowed
a bunch of money from his mother to even like open his restaurant. He
didn't have enough money for whatever, and so like he went to which there's
nothing wrong with go to your mom, but like, how dare you,
how dare you bring Katie's mom into this, who's just seems like a lovely
lady just trying to like enjoy a martini. Exactly. It was so awful
the way that they were all and bruck all the worst, the way she
was rolling her eyes at her. That's what just like put Katie into it,
like she started seeing red and even then, I mean, honestly,
I don't think I would have been able to keep my hands off someone at
this point. I don't think I could. I would have gotten physical.
I know that that's terrible. You're not supposed to about like I think I
would have hit her. And she had to feel like everyone was against her
because Sandoval's yelling, oh, how do you think how do you think he
felt when like you were banging some other guy? What the fuck right.
Oh my god, Now the real victim, the realtim, Arianna, the
real victim in all this. She's joking, like she starts crying, this
is so hard for me, Like I can't be a good friend to Katie
but also a good friend of Roquell at the same time. That was bizarre.
Sea Okay, this goes back to my theory that I think Ariana knew
something was going on, but she didn't know quite what, so she was
feeling sad. She probably what we didn't see is probably Sandoval and Roquell because
Sandoval was following Roquell all around. Every time Roquell would confront someone. It
was like Sandoval got off on it because remember when she said, like,
oh, he likes that he liked Maybe this was off off camera, but
she said, yeah, he likes he likes it when I stand up to
these girls. So I think she was just trying to turn him on so
he just ignores. I think Ariana felt alone and felt tired. They you
know, they're they're drinking a lot, they're filming all day, and I
think she really was like just felt sad and wanted to go home because like,
why is my boyfriend following Roquel around. What's going on? Yeah?
Has it already been floated? I don't really. I didn't really feel sorry
for Ariana in this moment because she doesn't know what's going on and she can't
even be a good friend to her freaking business partner. Everybody is always taking
Roquel's side and going, but maybe Roquel, sweet, it's like you got
Nobody sees the way she tortures Katie and follows her around and keeps going,
who cares If I make out with your boyfriend? Who cares? If I
make out with your ex husband? Who cares? Why do you care?
Like? Right, the only person that's ever recognizing that Roquell sucks is La
La. I mean that's right. And then meanwhile, her freaking to be
ex husband, not her ex husband, as she keeps pointing out, is
also like going, oh my god, rock Hell's trying to apologize to you,
and she's like shut, She's like there's nothing she can do, and
oh, this is when I started tearing up. I'm not joking. When
she is, you can tell it's real with Katie and she's trying not to
cry. It's really hard to watch. Then she pulls Schwartz, because you
know that moment when the person hurting you the most, because really it's not
Rock Hell, she's disgusting and vile, but it's Schwartz. It's the idea
of Schwartz being with someone that's evil, that's hurtful. So you know,
when you have so much pain from someone, but that's the only person you
can seek your comfort from at the same time, So Schwartz is kind of
causing a lot of this, but all that really the only person that can
sue her in this moment is Schwartz. They were together twelve years. So
she pulls him outside and she's really trying to have Now I'm getting so serious,
but she's really trying to have a real conversation with him, right,
I feel like she's like trying to kind of get a little comforted, and
he still can't do it, Like he just can't do it. He's so
vile. And then she comes out like you said, and just Hell just
keeps keeps poking for no reason, being awful, and nobody notices it.
And it's like she comes out and she's like, m I just want to
say one thing and one thing. I'm empathetic, and I understand that you're
super jealous of me. And I just wrote, everyone's gaslighting Yea or Katie
except Lala. Yeah, all of this, A huge birthday cake comes out.
It was Lisa's birthday time. Did anyone even know that? I mean,
I feel like he skipped body. Yeah, that was like a happy
birthday. So the talk is a, lad, you're gonna eat this.
No one's gonna eat this cake anyway. So I wrote at this point,
I wrote, fuck Schwortz, fuck Lisa, fuck all y'all. For some
reason, now I'm mad at you. In this scenario, I got really
upset. And then okay, and then when Lisa gives this big speech where
everyone has to gather and it's so fake, it's because it was a fake.
It was a finale that they thought was going to be the end of
the season, but because so much happened, we turned the camera's back on,
which is gonna be I mean, thank god, I guess. I
mean, now that's going to feel fake, because I mean, who's really
good? If you're that? Yeah, it's gonna be fun to like watch
her yell at sand of ball, which we've seen in the previews all season,
right, I don't know. Look, I've had to go. I've
been cheated on a lot of breakups. Like, oh, this is my
point. This is what I wrote online too. It's like, let's give
Katie some deals too. Like Ariana gets a deal with Bloomingdale's. She's on
Dancing with the Stars. Now, she got like a million dollars to go
shopping. I mean, like really or something like that. Bloomingdales gave her
shopping spree. She's got all these endorsement deals now, which great, But
let's maybe throw Katie one because I think she went through the fire just as
much. Honestly, I just want to know if is anybody apologizing to Katie.
I mean what I'm saying right, is anybody though? I mean,
just these her friends are they all like, oh my god, girl,
were you were right this whole time? Well, so here's the so on
watch what happen. They talked about this a little. Katie's still pretty pissed.
Although she looked hot. I want whatever that outfit is. I want
all that she looked pretty. She looks so pretty, but she does she
does say because it's asked. Andy's like, are you and Sheina better?
Because at from one point they were kind of friends. I don't think they've
ever really loved each other, but she said Shena has apologized. Everybody sort
of has, but I don't know if Ariana has, I mean, has
she has Arianna she'll be on Watch what happens next week? But has she
come up and said, I am so I'm so embarrassed that I defended her.
I guess we'll see. I mean, I mean, it felt like
everyone was defending her. And yeah, and to a nauseating degree, like
not just said Sae, Like Sachel's ever said one word. He's gone.
By the way. They're not dating anymore. They're not, no, she
said. And Katie was being really nice about it. She's like, oh,
he's such a great guy and he's a girlfriend. Now it's fine.
And Andy's like, so that girlfriend is not you and she's like no,
but she wasn't being like right, No, I was so good, she
I people have been. I know she's been a mingrel, but not even
close to what we're seeing here, not even close. No, it's incredibly
sad and awful to watch people sticking up for some girl who's so dumb,
like I haven't. I don't know if I've seen someone quite that level dumb
on television. Roquell just like there's nothing going on behind the eyes. Oh
that's what I'm saying, the black eyes, as we said, as Lala
said perfectly last episode, stupid demon, stupid demon. And it's really high.
And I know some people canna be like, Okay, there is a
group of people online that are like, you guys are being too hard on
Roquel, and I don't think we are. I don't think anybody is.
I don't I've never seen she doing all everything that she was doing. She
was doing way too much. Why was she having those conversations with Arianna?
Why was she constantly having these conversations where she was pretending, Oh my god,
Tom, we're just friends. He's one of my really good friends.
Now, like, why does she have to It's one of those girls that
you and I have always disliked that are like, I'm just a guy's girl.
Oh my god, yes, I just like to hang out the guy.
I can't help it that the guys just like to hang out with me
and like tell me stuff. I'm just cool. I'm just like one of
the guys. It's like, no, you're fucking Sandoval and they're all doing
a shit ton of drugs. They drug they drug bonded. I've done it.
I've been there, I get it. They've they did a bunch of
mushrooms and they think Sandoval and Rockell they probably all did, but somehow they
had some sparky, crazy night and they think they love each other. But
good luck, buddy, because I mean, she's an idiot. So what
are people what's the temperature online towards rock Hell now towards Sandoval or I mean,
are they still like are people nobody? They hate them? I mean
they completely like everyone's you know, furious now after they can't believe what they
saw, They can't believe this episode even existed. Well, this is the
one that we were teasing towards when Andy at the watch what happens a while
ago? When Andy when they remember when they were like, oh, you're
not going to believe this conversation that they have. Wells La says, you're
gonna die when you see the conversation that they have the show before the finale.
So that was it, that's it? Well on one person says this
woman Kelsey on Scandal, All okay, she wrote, watching dumb, Dumber
and dumbest is obviously infuriating, but so is watching how hard Arianna and Sheina
are writing for Rachel, which is exactly what you just said. Yeah,
she said, I bet. At the time of filming, Tina was pissed
that she missed the finale, but now she's probably so glad she wasn't there.
She would have been all up in the mix backing up Rachel. They're
calling her Rachel on right now because you know, fuck got I mean,
why is she Roquet? Oh from now? I mean, it wasn't that
long ago. It's not like she changed her name in high school or something
like she was Rachel and then for the show, She's like, I think
I'm more of a Roquel. Maybe she changed it when she was doing her
pageants. This is so hard for me because I can't do pageants anymore.
I've aged out, so I'm just gonna fuck all y'all's boy yep, yeah,
And I want everyone to feel sorry for me because I didn't love myself
enough. People are still definitely supporting James, though people are saying, like
James and La La are the heroes. I think we were about to see
La La and James be the best they've ever been. Maybe that's next week.
I don't know. I mean, it's interesting to see what people And
then one more, Linda says, I'm so glad they filmed the reunion while
it was still so new and raw and before Sandoval had a chance to spin
it his way, Sandoval's way perfection. If we have to wait for a
new season, he would have had time to manufacture this whole storyline, which
is exactly what we were saying. So what do we know what happened?
Like spoiler alert? Like how did it? Next week? Yeah? Like,
how did how did this story come out? I don't I actually don't
remember. I don't remember. I know I knew this probably at the beginning
of the season, back in the march. Do you believe this a long?
This has been going on? But yeah, I think we're just somehow
it gets it gets admitted to She confronts him, I think about something,
and he just cops too. And then that he tries to spend it the
whole we never had sex, never had sex. Then she constant sex.
No, no, no, He's not saying he and Roquell never had sex.
He's saying, oh, and so we're gonna see it all play out.
I guess as it's gonna be a little ACTI because you know, now
the cameras are on, obviously it's impossible not to but this. And then
then we have three three episodes of reunions, which and then it's time to
move on, I think, I mean, I think we all have to
get back to our lives. Yeah, I mean, and then are they
gonna, like, how's that going to play out? I mean, are
they going to continue the show and do a new season with all the same
thing. I heard At one point they said that Tom wasn't going to be
wasn't going to be on the show, But then people were like, no,
you'll have to have him on the show. Tom is gonna be on
it. If he wants to be on the show, he'll be on the
show. I mean, I know they're all saying they're not going to film
with them, but they've done that before. Remember, this isn't the this
is just better pr This is not the first time in all this they just
played. They got better editors and better people to do it. I mean,
Kristen was dating Sandoval, and Sandoval cheated on Kristen with Arianna and Kristen
cheated on her best friend Sta. Stacy was dating Jacks and she bucked Jacks.
This is nothing new what they do. It's just what they do,
and it's I think it's real now, all right, I think we've all
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