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Can I get a a man?
Yeah? Amen, what is that coming

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on? Being this back? I'm
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small Nathan, we got a smiling
Courtney, and behind that avatar over there

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is a smiling Debsy even though her
dog done eight numb erebuds. It's all

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good. Yeah, And we got
a special guest tonight, right money we

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do indeed, yeah, return guest
that that's right at the request of our

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Cabby prospect in this one percent joint
Courtney connected and so she gonna get the

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much. Nathan couldn't have been said
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when you say stuff, which is
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So Courtney connected in and so she
looks so mysterious. Wait of those

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the teeth right, WHOA, she's
got things, Courtney. You had asked

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me there's a certain person you wanted
to have on tonight. Can talk about

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that? Yeah. So I have
been working on multiple research projects and it

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just like synchro synchronistically came up about
the Victor video and you and I got

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to talking and I was asking you
know about this and different connections we have,

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and you said, well, we
interviewed John before, but I didn't

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know that. So I had requested, hopefully to bring him back on so

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that we can get updates about the
Victor video, things that are out there

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in the community, and have him
go on the record about a few things.

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So I'm excited that he was willing
to come on tonight so quickly,

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definitely, man, I texted him
and thank goodness, he said yes on

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short notice. So without further adode, let's bring on the man who is

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behind the Alien Interview documentary, the
man that I predict is gonna be the

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next guest star on FX's the bear
right on that restaurant. He's got to

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somehow he's got to come in and
like you know, Richie, he's got

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to get Rick straight and Richie out, go in, get carme calm down

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in the kitchen there. So put
your hands together for the former wrestler,

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former politician, and former college football
player and now documentary researcher the Maya,

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John Stewart. Yeah, quit an
intro. Welcome brother, John Stewart.

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Yes, one of my favorite shows, favorite cruise. I really mean,

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so okay, so before we look, because Courtney's got the first question tonight

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but John, if you were on
that show, what would your role be

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on that show of the bear which
is amazing, Like you know, a

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local wrestler, local car dealer that
loan them money, or one of the

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employees didn't make his payment to to
our dealership because we held the we held

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the it's called holding the paper,
which means you're to the bank. And

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so I'm coming in to kind of, you know, gelely remind him.

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I'd like two beefs sweet and hot, make it wet, and where's my

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car payment? And to make sure
the car's in the parking lot. So

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I think that's would be my that
would be my role. And you know

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he used to be a pro wrestler. He'll break your fucking legs, so

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you know, so easy fayl very
much like Rocky Balboa was in Rocky one,

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right, totally, totally, totally, all right, all right,

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thank you, John, I appreciate
that. Let me turn it over to

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Courtney Connected to get this started,
because man, when we thought about who

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might have seen your video, it
sparked something and we've been talking about you

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with various folks for the last couple
of days. So go ahead, man,

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Hey, John, Thanks for coming
on, you know, at the

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last minute. It's nice that this
is something we can talk about and bring

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right to everybody's attention so immediately.
So I had talked with a couple of

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folks in the last few weeks,
and I was just confirming first of all

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that it was the Bob caveat you
know, special edition video that was back

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in nineteen ninety seven, and I've
heard that your project is the same video.

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Is that correct? I just wanted
to verify that first, that's corrects

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the nineteen ninety seven Area fifty one
Alien Interview. There's music in the background,

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is that can I tell? Yeah? I can't, Yes, it

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really hard to hear. Yeah,
well I'll take care of that. Yeah.

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That was a documentary that came out
in nineteen ninety seven called Area fifty

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one Alien Interview. It was done
by hosted by the guy from the X

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Files. And you know, it
took me a hold in ninety seven and

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it's third three years later, and
I finally have solved salved one million percent

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who Victor is. And people are
saying he's proved the video. No I

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haven't. I mean, we think
we can show the provenance of it that

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we draw some very logical conclusions that
would hold up in court. But proving

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the video, I've never said that. I've simply said I cannot, with

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one thousand percent surety tell you that
it's completely accurate. What I can't tell

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you is it was definitely filmed by
the government, and you know it was

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definitely film filmed by the government.
And until I have the alien and from

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Algehyde or the alien in somebody's uncle's
garage who was a puppeteer or an animatronic

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expert, no, I will never
be able to one thousand percent prove the

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video is real. But there are
so many inconsistency, there are so many

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facts to the video, people's responses
that were allegedly in the video that yes,

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you know, in my opinion,
and if I had to go take

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this to a court of law,
you know, we would get a conviction

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that this video is real. Is
the actual is showing an actual being,

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and if you don't believe it's an
actual extraterrestrial it's one million percent filmed by

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the United States government. Okay,
Well, I have a follow up question.

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Okay, I just wanted to make
sure we were talking about the same

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video. So my follow up question
was there. I remember it was last

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year. There was some scuttle butt
that came out through the community, and

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some reporters had asked, I think
it was Luna if she had seen a

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video, an alien video, and
so I wanted to ask you, was

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this the video? The same video
that supposedly are went to Luna and another

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congressman they and they saw it.
I think it was last year, maybe

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around December. I'm still trying to
track that down the sources. But I

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just wanted to ask you that.
Well, I can tell you what I

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was told privately, but what does
that mean that there's no credibility in that

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right? I mean you people are
going to say bullshit. So no,

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I can't tell you for a fact
where I can show you a smoking gun

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proof that my alien interview film was
the one shown to Congress, especially the

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three the trio, the three congress
people who were the one person could not

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take a drink of water. His
hand was shaking so much. I've been

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told privately what the answer is,
but I'm trying to be as I've been

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for five years, an upright,
honest, fourth right UFU researcher who doesn't

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bullshit who doesn't white lie, who
doesn't stretch the truth. I cannot tell

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you one that it is my film
that they saw. However, privately I

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have been told differently that that's meaningless, So no, I cannot confirm it.

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We got to watch the four letter
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family show, after all. It's
our first day with super Chats and they're

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gonna take away our monetization. This
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lot of tize YouTube. It's all
good. We love you, John H.

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Courtney. Do you have a follower? Do you want me to send

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it on to Nathan and company?
No? He John answered it, So

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that was perfect. Thanks John,
You're You're quite welcome. Thank you for

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thank you your questions. Appreciate it
well, Nathan, please take it away,

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sir. John's great to have you
back with us on the show.

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About the updates. I want to
hear a lot more about the updates.

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And you alluded to something that was
going to be part of my question,

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and you said that it's pretty much
a fact that the government shot that you

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and I am convinced of that as
well. But I wanted to ask you,

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is in your opinion do you think
that this video is part of a

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controlled kind of drip disclosure process or
do you think this victor and it just

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sort of got out on its own. Do you think that he did it

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without someone without someone's blessing that way, That's a really good question. And

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of course I'd like to be,
you know, the buddy buddy of the

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UFO world and say, you know, we're being played. But the back

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story which I've shared with the public, the backstory, which is a retranscribed

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alleged internal investigative memo from the Defense
Intelligence Agency, who runs all alien programs

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since the early sixties. That investigation
memo clearly states that that somebody, a

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cabal of people smuggled this out as
much I'm sure to the United States government's

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dismay, do I one thousand percent
believe and know that the government does do

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disinformation and everything from stage events to
videos and and to get into chat rooms

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at and and uh. The problem
is the UFO world does more harm to

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itself that most of the time the
government doesn't really need to do anything.

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We are our own worst enemies.
And maybe we can get into that at

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a later point. But U but
I believe because of the backstory and the

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man who the DEIA said orchestrated this
cabal to steal smuggle material, especially this

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video three minute video, and especially
a packet of documents dot ca a's and

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photos that were was entitled the United
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This was what was smuggled out of
S four which lies beneath the S two

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Alpha building out at Pappoos Lake.
So says your government, ladies and gentlemen,

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you know the problem. And I'm
not getting off on a tangent.

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The problem I have in the in
the the vitriol that I have towards Congress

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is that I am a former candidate
for Illinois governor. I flew to Washington,

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Candada, very professional report of my
investigation. None of them called me,

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none of them wrote me, none
of them asked a question. And

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the report was from a government agency
that they fund, the DA you know,

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Congress distributes the money. You know, so when anybody thinks that this

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is my dark laboratory belief system,
and this is what I was found,

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this is what I was told in
what I saw in a defense intelligence report

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that a man named Joseph Jeger and
I went through five fake or five wrong

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Joseph Jeger's this is very important.
Please listen. Embarrassingly, I've embarrassed myself

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with many Jaeger families around the country. And that's a side note. But

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the Joseph Jeger, who was a
former State Department official in the fifties,

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he then worked for the DIA very
disgruntled, as was the century Connor O'Ryan

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who went by the name Garrick Hennessey
or vice versa. As was Victor Okay,

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as was the Project Aquarius leader,
Project leader Major Thomas Mack. We

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have a picture from his son at
Area fifty one. He died in nineteen

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ninety nine, six months after writing
an email to Bible Apocalyades website. Was

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the project leader Dan Burg was down
there go find Rick Toti. He was

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our counterintelligence agent. He died six
months after that email. There was a

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cabal of four to five people who
Joseph Jeger organized again and ada employee organized

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and conspired with to remove information from
S four period put it in the books,

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and the report says. The report
says, we believe Joseph Jeger ad

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I a employee, conspired to remove
this film. If you're having issues John

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with the members of the Jaeger family, could you be referred to as the

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Jaeger Meister. Sorry, I'll tell
you what she documentary about about the battery

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of this investigation, specifically talking about
Hollywood, the media, and will you

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hear the five Yeager families that I
have utterly embarrassed myself with. It's you're

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gonna be like, you know this, I feel bad for this guy.

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This is a good guy. John, Stuart's a good guy. You know

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you are a good guy going on, well, you know what I'm saying,

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Like, you're gonna feel bad for
me. There's a Jaeger family in

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Philadelphia that I was sure was the
Joseph Thieger. If they're listening, they

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were so kind to me. They're
like, they're like, dude, don't

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worry, we get it. Our
brother wasn't Joseph Jeger. He was in

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you know, he was in the
Marines for only three months. He had

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some you know, mental health issues, and he died early, and you

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know, so on and so forth. And but some of the other families

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like, if you ever contact us
again, we will never you know,

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we will call the But you know, it's tough being an investigator, trust

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me. So but anyways, yeah, you take So that's why I believe

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the film was filmed by the government, because your government said so. And

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maybe I've never really cleared they stated
that to people, But the d IA

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says that the film was filmed by
them four and on behalf of the Department

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of Naval Intelligence period. And John, you get a copy of that document.

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Is that available somewhere on your website
or no it's not. I mean

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I send it to people. It's
been on Reddit and stuff like that because

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I've redacted the emails and changed the
fond and stuff. Yeah, I could

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send it to you. Cool,
okay, yeah, and it was Can

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I just say one last thing.
The email that I was sent somebody I

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believe who was in currently back then
India sent this to his colleague who came

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forward to leak and help me,
or as he called it, nudge my

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investigation. Both very old men and
I saw the email back to each other.

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This was not sent to me by
a guy from the DA. It

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was sent to my leaker, who
then forward it to me. If I

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could be clear, and I want
to be clear because the UFO community deserves

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that. So this wasn't sent to
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like forwarded to me by my leaker. But it was sent to my leaker

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originally, and and on the bottom
of it it's like two friend colleagues talking

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to each other. He says,
please do not use my name any association

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with this material or information, and
then he signed his name Bazarre and it's

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your government, folks. Sorry,
you know. It wasn't doctor Career hoaxing

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me. It came from the DA. I had a thought experiment with someone

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who's very very well known in our
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now, including John, knows this
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attribution, I won't name him.
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would the government have filmed something like
this and faked it? And so I

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said, okay, it's kind of
like I've said to the cabbies, you

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have to think like the govern and
when you want to analyze what the government's

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doing, you can't think like you. You have to think like them and

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say, Okay, what do I
have to gain by making a fake video

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with an ET? What? How
can I what benefit can I extract from

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a public affairs or public relations perspective
or any you know, you know,

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I guess from an intelligence perspective,
answer one of them. But well no,

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I mean I can answer too.
Is we we couldn't find a reason

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that they would want to fake something
like that and then shoot it? Can

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you? Maybe you can? Maybe? Of course, why would they want

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to fake? You got to remember
this is nineteen ninety six. Yea,

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the alien autopsy has come out.
It's kind of getting discredited. And the

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purpose of the government leaking or creating
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multifaceted. And this is for five
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one. It helps It helps quell
que lu. It helps quell any segments

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of the military intelligence community who want
disclosure. So it's almost like you give

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them the adore or derv You don't
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Okay, we'll put some disinformation out. We know these aliens landed at

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Holloman. Let's create a video of
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looks the same, it's not really
the alien, so we're not violating national

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security laws. Very important, But
if we all get caught and they send

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us to the gallows, I'm being
metaphoric. Of course, we can say

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we did try. We did try
to tell you in close encounters in this

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movie, in that movie and the
alien autopsy, and you know, we

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never arrested Santilly and the cameraman and
the alien interview. We never really looked

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for Victor. We let it all
die. And you know, they can

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say we we tried to do something
for you to the public, to desensitize

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you and kind of slow drip information
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the government, and I've talked to
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one of the biggest proponents of the
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agents will tell you, oh no, no, no, no. They

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create things, they put things out. They you know, they leak stuff

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themselves, all in a hodgepodge of
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not breaking security laws, so on
and so forth. So I do

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believe that the government has put stuff
out that and it's fake, but it's

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based on a real event. I'm
glad, I remember I would I would

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agree with you with what you just
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discussion, Nathan, so Julie's asking
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don't know if you can play the
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would be involved. I put the
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it when I have it, Okay, all right, So Julie, the

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answer is yes. Um. And
so somebody had something for John here.

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Somebody was saying that one of your
links is not working. Who is that

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that that said that is it?
George? Oh? George, Hi,

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Hi, George, thank you very
much for coming. And George is saying

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that where is it? The links
to John's video and his YouTube on your

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description aren't working? Okay, so
check. I'm sure Nathan got those me,

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but John, just to make sure
those links are still with both documentaries,

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the nineteen ninety seven to one and
when Victory turns ten years later.

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Just go to special edition nineteen ninety
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Alien Interview Victor you know something and
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It's a great two documentaries in one. It's beent up for a million years.

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I love it what Victor says in
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he is dying, which I have
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That was that was a little bit
of a ruse. Yep, Victor,

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you got to make sure you go
to the gym, Victor and stay

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healthy. We need you, we
need your testimony. No. So what

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I'll say though about the welcome Mick, uh, welcome everybody. Welcome everybody

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in the chat. We appreciate you, guys. What I'll say is is

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personally from my vantage point, you
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years that I've been in government,
I can't see a reason that they would

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want to make a video what what
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in them making a fake video like
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That's you know you meaning you and
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my sources in the Intel community who
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world of Intel encounter Intel a lot
better than I, and see if they

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can see a reason through just with
a thought experiment, I couldn't see a

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reason they would want to fake that. Did you want did you want to

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play it now, Nathan? This
video and just what you guys? Yes,

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when you want to do it.
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Please. I feel like it wouldn't
accept actually represent the government in a

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good light, so I can't see
like a motivation for them to want to

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show that they could not take care
of that entity. And Victor speaks so

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horribly of the government and the people
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it's yeah, it's for me for
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this to my I did a little
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and I was showed this video to
my wife, who's from Brazil. She's

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not from our culture, she's not
spun up on UFOs, So without you

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know, setting the table for her, I showed her this video without listening

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to Victor and all that stuff,
and her her visceral response was this looks

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you know in her brokening you said, just look like a real And I'm

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like, why do you think that? And she's like the way is moved

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ahead and the way it moved in
something like that. She just sense like,

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yeah, this is an actual,
actual creature, which was the response

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I had. But anyway, this
is so amazing. Go ahead, Nathan,

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We'll play it. Yeah, it's
playing right now, you can see

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it on the screen. Or yeah, let me go let me go big

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screen on this. I think what
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off and put it up by itself. Right, is that it? Yeah?

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And then well done. Okay,
how's that? Oh my goodness,

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that's good. Jesus, you go
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to me the what I felt is
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said and the same response that Victor
has to watch. It was funny.

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I watched this back like about three
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personally, they as Rick Baker said, it's it's done excellent. This person

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could get a job in Hollywood in
a minute. He said, you know,

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but I think it's fake. Then
he goes, but there's a couple

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of movements. I don't know how
they did it. Well, then that's

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it. I mean, it's it's
like me saying, well, that looks

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like an indie car, but I
know it's an indie car, but you

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know there's a you know, a
Chevy big Block in it, and well

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it's not an indy car then,
right. You know, you know you

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can't have an FX expert in Hollywood
tell you. We have heard this a

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million times with experts in this video. It's blah blah blah blah blah.

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But well, you can't skip the
de lou around. But what do you

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mean You've never seen an animatronic doubt
with those movements. Okay, so a

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crappy video production company, an animatronic
expert better than you, you've never heard

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of them, and you've never heard
this doll being created animatronically, And now

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you're confirming the's making movements you've never
seen before or believe that can be done

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by an animatronic puppet. Okay,
Well to me, that means I guess

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it's real. I guess it's not
animatronic. You know, it's just crazy.

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If people just slow down, listen
to what people are saying about this,

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it's, you know, the animatronic
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film. If it's John, I
think it's fake. After twenty seven hundred

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dollars that you gave me. Cough. You know there's one hat scratch her?

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Oh, here we go. What's
the hat scratcher? It doesn't have

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crease when they show the light on
the forour X. It does not have

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creases under the armpits. Yeah,
well, in fifty I've never seen a

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foam Latex animatronic puppet not have creases
under the arm pits. It happens during

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the drawing process. You can't get
around it. Well, what does that

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mean? That? That means that? So again, like Rick Baker with

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the movements, we now have another
expert telling me us, we've never seen

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this before. Ever, so we
have a guy saying he's never seen certain

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movements. We have another expert saying
he's never seen a foam dow without the

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creases under the armpits. I mean, shut the lights off, close the

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garage door. It's over. You
know, what's your response when you watch

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it alone? John, what's your
response? I tell everybody watched it.

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In nineteen ninety seven, I had
this baller lifestyle of part time pro wrestler

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running for office. I was an
automobile wholesaler living in downtown Chicago. You

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know, just a crazy, fun
life. This video comes on and I'm

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stupidf I'm gonna stupor for two days. And it's been hanging on my head

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for thirty years, which is why
I asked Senator John McCain about it.

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In nineteen ninety nine, the d
n I when he flipped his lid,

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and which is why in twenty nineteen
I started to say, no, one's

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getting off their ass fully to investigate
this. I'm gonna do it. I'm

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gonna see what I can find.
This video has bothered me that much,

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especially the testimony of Victor. There
is no way a twenty something screenwriter in

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southern California before Google could talk and
use the verbids that Victor has done.

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I don't believe it using archaic nineteen
fifties sixties medical terms, the verbids that

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it comes together talks. You know
how communicating with aliens to us would be

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like us putting calculus into the greets
and scrunches of a chimpanzee. You know,

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It's just there's just no way there's
And I'm right because I found Victor

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so but I back then, there's
no way this Victor is an actor.

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There's just no way. That's the
next place we're gonna go. No,

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I agree with you based on what
I heard, but the next place we're

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gonna go. But I'd just like
to go around the room here. I

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wanted to do it while while I
was playing. But what was your reaction

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to that? Nathan deb and Courtney
watching it. Yeah, I mean it's

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I've watched it a lot now and
it's kind of eerie, you know,

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like the more you watch it,
the more that it more profoundly. I

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think it kind of hits you,
you know. I come back a lot

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to what you've said, DJ,
and you reiterated, John about the sort

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of time stamping and the way that
this is shot. The You know that

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the critique of you here often is
it's in a dark room, and that

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would be the perfect room to sort
of get away with a poor kind of

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puppet or reconstruction. On the other
hand, DJ, as you're with your

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experience, as you pointed out,
this is the kind of room you would

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want for an interrogated interrogation of a
subject. You want only certain focal points

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to be seen on the video.
You want to obscure other aspects of the

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room because it could give away whatever
a facility that might be a part of

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So it's very kind of a narrow
scope. And then just watching it again

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now, I mean, I don't
know, John, maybe I'm starting to

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impart things to the video, but
I almost feel like I'm seeing even subtle

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movements in the skin of the of
the creature go around the eyes. There

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was a gentleman named Dandrew Burlington,
who I no longer associate with, but

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that was this first thing that he
said, Wait a minute, something's or

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not right here. I'm seeing subtle
movements in the skin, which is possible

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animatronically, which he never tells people. But why do that when only twenty

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five thirty years later a hyper examination
could pick that up. Nobody picked that

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up on the documentary. So why
would you spend the money to put remote

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control remote control cables to move the
skin? I mean, it's just ridiculous.

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your show. That is not the
way Victor's video looked when he added it

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to Rocket Pictures. It had a
bluish gray hay hue. And I believe

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that it's on my YouTube page.
That's not The production company darkened that film

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for dramatic effect. That is not
the way it came. It was like

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a black and gray almost looking with
a bluish hue like you'd see something with

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the government. So anybody, it's
dark, Yeah, the production company did

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that. Sorry. Deb's what was
your response to what you just saw.

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Okay, Well, there's a few
things I wanted to say. First of

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all, I went telling the rabbit
hole of figuring out what kind of world

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a creature with law large eyes like
that and very pale skin would live in,

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and I kind of came to the
conclusion it would be a very dark

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place. So having too much light, even if that's you know, portraying

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it a little dramatically for entertainment purposes, that would be uncomfortable for that entity.

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I would guess, you know,
there's a reason they have those large

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eyes. They're trying to pick up
what light they can in their whatever world

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they're from, you know, or
in the caves are of our world,

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or the sea of our world that
could be here. We don't know,

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right, So a dark place would
be more suitable, I think. But

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as far as like emotionally, I
have like two strong responses to this one.

407
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.880
Even though I am still on the
fence, I can't help it.

408
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:52.280
I think that you know, everyone
has like that I don't know feeling about

409
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.840
this and about Skinny Bob, right, which is a whole nother can of

410
00:34:55.880 --> 00:35:04.159
worms that we should figure out someday. But but like I still feel upset

411
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.199
you know, that's the reaction,
Like I still feel upset for that entity,

412
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:14.119
and then I also feel this strong
bit of anger towards the people who

413
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.000
are surrounding it, like they're just
incompetent, and I'm like, what are

414
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:20.840
you doing? Like the whole time
I'm watching it, I'm like, that

415
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:24.800
is not how you treat something that
is ill or suffering. That is not

416
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:29.039
what are you doing? Or sticking
the light in its eye like that?

417
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:35.079
What are you doing? So those
are the two responds, and to upset

418
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:38.800
you even more, I would I
read that after the being was stabilized,

419
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:44.360
the interview continued like, you know, okay, we've got stabilized. Should

420
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:46.719
we take them back to his to
his to his confines? No, no,

421
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:51.159
no, no, we have more
questions to ask this sickly little fellow

422
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.599
from you know, thirty million layers
away. Are we rolling the tape?

423
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:59.320
Okay, let's go keep going.
That's exactly what I was told. After

424
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.960
there's there's even more discussed at you
know, our government part. It is

425
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:08.039
what there's three there's three things that
you want to listen to in this video

426
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:14.400
dips when you watch the one that
I sent. One is Victor and you

427
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.400
want to listen to everything that he
says, both his questions and his answers.

428
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.719
The second thing is Robert Dean's response, the former Army intel officer,

429
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:30.280
and they both so relative to the
light, Victor will say, when you

430
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:36.639
listen to his uh basically his explanation
of the lighting, it does say there's

431
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:40.079
other reasons to make the room dark
other than plausible deniability. If you show

432
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.360
if you show ten different things in
the room, then I have ten different

433
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.440
things to evaluate. If you show
one thing in the room, then I

434
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:52.400
have one thing to evaluate as as
to its veracity, et cetera, and

435
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:58.880
to identify and to possibly figure out
the identity, et cetera. But anyway,

436
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:05.920
Victor talks about that it doesn't have
the ability to combat germs, that

437
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:10.480
it lives in a microbe and bacteria
free environment, so that's one thing,

438
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:15.480
and that it is very sensitive to
light, so that's and which goes with

439
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:20.079
your hypothesis about the big eyes.
They both had the exact same response.

440
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:27.440
I think Robert Dean said, they're
treating this like its livestock, the way

441
00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.719
that they're wiping its lips and his
mouth. And I say it, I

442
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:36.320
mean could be a he or she
we don't know the gender of the creature,

443
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:39.320
but the way they're treating it has
the same, you know, the

444
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:45.000
same response from other people that I've
talked to in the Intel community have seen

445
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:52.320
this video. In addition to the
two Victor himself and Robert Dean, That's

446
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:53.480
all I want to say about that, and then we can go to Courtney.

447
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:59.159
Wait, can I just add the
it's also the feeling that like that

448
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:06.400
incompetent is a nervous incompetence, like
they don't know what to do. Victor

449
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.159
says, the medical staff has chosen
more for their ability to get secrets than

450
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:13.960
their medical knowledge. I mean,
yes, I mean it's like, is

451
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.039
there anything that can debunk this?
Is there anyone going to show up in

452
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:25.480
thirty years and give me concrete,
valid proof of finally, finally it's debunked

453
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.079
anyone. I've been here for thirty
years. I mean, even the researcher

454
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.960
that I don't get along with,
that I no longer speak to. He's

455
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:39.000
telling everybody it's Colin Powell on the
left of the camera, his shoulder patch.

456
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:44.199
Okay, I don't speak to this
guy anymore. I get the DEA

457
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:49.719
report. Who's in there Rear Admiral
net Schaeffer. Who is he? Who's

458
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:53.800
dead? But he was Colin Powell's
chief of staff of intelligence. So two

459
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:59.840
researchers that don't get along, that
don't talk anymore, are both have the

460
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:05.880
same conclusion that people in that room
are related to Colin Powell. If not

461
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.840
indeed, Colin Powell, can you
explain that? Yeah, I mean,

462
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:14.119
it's just you know, the twenty
seven on the bottom of the screen not

463
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:20.599
known until about six years ago that
twenty seven was Yankee White any contact with

464
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.199
the President of the United States,
that Schaefer was in the Oval Office.

465
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:29.119
Colan Powell, who claimed people claimed
that he was there, was in the

466
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:35.320
Oval Office too. Who how what
production company would know to put twenty seven

467
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:40.320
on the bottom of that film and
then put Department of Naval Intelligence abbreviation on

468
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:46.719
an agency that does not exist.
Why are you doing such a bad hoax?

469
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:52.559
Because you're not filming a hoax,
You're filming you're seeing government audio visual

470
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:59.480
documentation, which is what is this
for? What agency? D? And

471
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:05.440
I what is the security level you
need to watch this film? Security level

472
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:08.880
twenty seven? I think there's thirty
six levels? Yeah, yeah, I

473
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:13.840
mean, come on, I mean, stop it, stop this. This

474
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:17.559
is a joke. This is a
joke that people are whistling past us like

475
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:23.280
this is like a hoax. I
mean sorry, I've been waiting thirty years

476
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:28.039
and it's over. I found Victor, and everyone told me, and I

477
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.639
have to get this across. Every
one of the UFO skeptics that I'd love

478
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:37.000
to wring their neck told me for
thirty years. If you find Victor,

479
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:42.719
you prove the video. If Victor's
a Hollywood actor, we know the video's

480
00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:46.480
fake. If Victor has any connection
to the government or the military, then

481
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:52.079
it's real. Okay, I found
Victor. He was a government employee.

482
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.320
Should I fold my hands and out
like an asshole a jerk and say,

483
00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:00.480
now what now I found Victor?
Come on, No, we're We're gonna

484
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.800
get to it. I just got
to talk to everybody in the chat because

485
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:07.960
we have people that have questions.
I want to get to Victor, No,

486
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.840
I want, I definitely want to
get to Victor. And I think

487
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:14.840
I think you should get Victor Lumel
noddies, but that is a discussion for

488
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:19.239
later. And I wonder if he's
gonna if he's gonna go like the vegetarian

489
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:27.719
route or if he's gonna go with
sausage anyway. Okay, okay, all

490
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:31.719
right, how many questions we've got
here, Jules, Let's see. Uh

491
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:37.239
so everyone's saying hello John Stewart from
Mick our friend from the uk uh okay,

492
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:42.239
and we do have super chats enabled. If you want to throw us

493
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.119
a dollar for your question, we
would appreciate that. It'll all add up

494
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.599
at the end of the quarter.
Well, we got to pay these guys,

495
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:52.360
Okay, calling all beings. Would
it be possible to ask mister Stewart

496
00:41:52.840 --> 00:42:00.800
how he stays focused on focus with
all the critique and derision he gets from

497
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:07.360
contrarians in the UFO community about the
videos authenticity. Okay, so how do

498
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:15.239
you stay focused? John? Well, you know to know that since twenty

499
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:21.360
nineteen, I have came to the
UFO community with fat hand and said I

500
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:24.840
don't know anything. I'm just going
to try to find the truth. I

501
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:34.239
will bring you updates and information as
I can. That's a pretty vanilla starting

502
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:39.719
position where you're not agitating the UFO
community, right, And I have said,

503
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:44.039
and I said it thirty minutes ago, I don't know one hundred percent

504
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:50.400
if this video is is legit because
I don't have the puppet or the alien,

505
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:57.440
but I knew that that I was
presenting stuff, unlike Bernie Madoff or

506
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:00.480
Elizabeth Fairrenhos of the Fairnose Company with
the flood draw, you know, two

507
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:06.440
big scam artists who hit everything,
who didn't tell people anything. I was

508
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:13.119
the complete antithesis of that, honest, open communicating with other podcasters and other

509
00:43:13.719 --> 00:43:17.800
of the wise people in the UFO
community like Richard Dolan, doctor Salah,

510
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:24.320
Linda Howell, doctor Greer, communicating, sharing my information, sharing my information

511
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:29.679
with the UFO world. And so
when you're on when when you're on this

512
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:35.400
honest, you know mission, it's
it's you know it. It makes it

513
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:39.639
a little easier. Have I thrown
books in glasses and wanted to smash my

514
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:45.719
computer screen at people on the Internet. I was gonna fly to somebody,

515
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:47.239
stated, kill somebody. I mean, you know, eat the crap out

516
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:51.119
of them. This is what my
I want to I want to kill people

517
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.440
sometimes. Yes, if y'all don't
want to message this guy. Man,

518
00:43:54.119 --> 00:44:00.800
you know, it's very frustrating when
you tell people and you have shown people

519
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:05.599
for five years. I don't know, I'm not sure here's what I found.

520
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:12.320
What do you think? So it
does help you react, you know,

521
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:17.039
to absorb some of the criticisms telling
me I'm fat, I have crazy

522
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:22.800
eyes, that I couldn't possibly be
successful this because I sold cars for my

523
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:28.079
family in college. How does that
have to do with anything? Does that

524
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:32.599
hurt my feelings? No? Is
that insulting and counterproductive to my mission?

525
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.480
Yes? But you just have to
move forward. I mean, remember,

526
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.800
I was a pro wrestler, I
was a used car dealer, and I

527
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.039
was a politician. I think I
can take the flag. But yes,

528
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:50.159
football player, you get a football
You see the dysfunction, the narcissism,

529
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.760
dysfunction of the internet that literally scares
the crap out of me for our future.

530
00:44:53.800 --> 00:45:00.679
And I mean that sincerely. Well
you don't. You're a better look

531
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:02.360
and ball guy than me, John, So I've got to give you.

532
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.679
I got to give you a lot
of respect for that. And it's you

533
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.519
know, but I have goals for
next year, for twenty five. All

534
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:14.760
right, So Courtney, do you
have a question for before we get back

535
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:16.119
to the chat and what they got
home? Yes? Please go ahead,

536
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:20.559
man, Well, you will give
your reaction to the video first and then

537
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:22.360
ask him something. Yeah, that's
okay. We're running out of time,

538
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:27.519
so I'll just ask my question and
pass on the analysis of the video.

539
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.239
But John, so you've you've taken
this to a bunch of people. You've

540
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:36.119
mentioned a bunch of leadership in our
community. What has been the general consensus

541
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:42.719
in your interactions with them about the
video? Here we go, here we

542
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.239
pay through all people. She let
me into it. No, Linda Balunahowe

543
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:50.159
has been awesome. She's been like
a mother figure to me. My mother

544
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:53.440
died in twenty twelve. I'm not
being melodramatic. She's been like a mother

545
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:59.800
figure to take the time to teach
me how to be a journalist, how

546
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:05.440
to answer questions, how to file
away Leslie Leslie Keene, same way.

547
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.960
Here's what you ask people, Here's
how you approach people. Those two women

548
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:14.400
have been wonderful to me. Richard
Dolan has been great. Uh, you

549
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:16.920
know, Richard Dolan up my game? You know. I don't want to

550
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:22.039
embarrass Richard Dolan for saying, well, John Stewart's investigations pretty interesting. I

551
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.639
want to be able to go to
Richard Dolan and say here, here,

552
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:29.119
here, here, here, here, here, I don't know, I

553
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.760
don't know kind of for sure,
you know. So I think Richard Dolan

554
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:37.880
appreciates that we've had great feedback from
what I was on his podcast. Doctor

555
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:43.039
Michael sal of Excel Politics is one
of my help. He called one of

556
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:47.679
the rear admirals in this list that
were allegedly watching this video. Not only

557
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:53.679
did I kneel the email that that
rear admiral, doctor Michael Sala call emailed

558
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:59.719
them said boom boom boom, would
you like an interview? Doctor Salha proved

559
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:02.599
that he was real and the admiral
said, who was a former director of

560
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:08.239
d IA. I'm respectfully going to
refuse to have any interviews on that subject

561
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:14.320
matter. So doctor Salah has been
great. Doctor Greer, what can you

562
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:19.159
say about doctor Greer? He let
my information into the disclosure project. We

563
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:24.320
kind of tacitly coordinated when he had
the big disclosure project last year at the

564
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:29.840
press club. That's when I dropped
my packets off in Congress. Kind of

565
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:32.679
kind of coordinated that a little bit. Every time you text doctor Greer,

566
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.400
he texts you back right away.
You know. He's very intense. You

567
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.199
know, he yells at me sometimes
on the phone because I don't shut up.

568
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:46.000
So but but that's doct your career, you know. And and he's

569
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:50.920
taught me so much and he and
you know, and and it's been more

570
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:54.320
than one time he said, quiet, wait, I'm trying to teach you

571
00:47:54.880 --> 00:48:00.960
so all of these luminary I know
it's it's it's hysterical, but talk about

572
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:06.679
a guy with a Wikipedia knowledge of
the UFO world to help you with with

573
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.280
with requests and stuff like that,
or what what? What way to go?

574
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:15.000
Always answering emails? You know,
I can't say enough about doctor Gerry.

575
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:19.800
I mean that sincerely. And let
me go for a couple of other

576
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:24.480
people. Reverend Michael Carter. You've
seen him on Ancient Aliens. He's been

577
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:30.800
like the conciliary of this, of
this of this investigation with my team,

578
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.639
you know, walking me off the
ledge. I have to give kudos to

579
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:38.000
Richard Dody, who has said publicly
I don't know much about this video,

580
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:43.719
but to talk to to somebody that's
been at the upper levels of S four

581
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:49.159
in the S two Alpha building,
Dody taking hours to help me with foyer

582
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.800
requests? What is the language?
Rick Dody helped me with a Foyer request,

583
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:59.199
still not given back to me.
About the police officers in their names

584
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:02.239
of the switch, so we can
maybe find the police officer that drove the

585
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.679
cameraman back to Groom Lake after filming
stuff like that. Because I'll tell you

586
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:13.159
something, John Greenwald, mister Foya
and I respect his work, hasn't emailed

587
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:16.840
me back in five years and I've
emailed him ten times. Mute fan the

588
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:22.480
mute Yeah, I'm just saying,
MW fon has never emailed me back of

589
00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:28.519
the three times. So you know, uh, and you know I it's

590
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.519
so, you know, you just
gotta some people are gonna accept you in

591
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:37.239
some in some people won't put the
luminaries the head The heads of state as

592
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:43.559
I call them of the UFO world
have been absolutely wonderful to me because they

593
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:47.400
see a guy who is not pounding
his fists for sure. I know,

594
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:52.599
I know. Just here is what
I was told, here is what I

595
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.199
was shown, here is what I
found, Here's what I dug up.

596
00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:00.440
What say you? And people respect
that? Yeah, if they're looking for

597
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.280
someone to throw daggers at that says, I know this is for real,

598
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.599
Let him throw daggers at me,
because that's what I said from the first

599
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:10.519
time I saw it. But I
don't really care what anybody thinks either,

600
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:15.559
So all right, I'm so John. We we we only have about ten

601
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.239
minutes left, and we want to
get to Victor, if you would,

602
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.880
and then what we're gonna do.
If you can get this in five minutes,

603
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.400
we're gonna spend the last five minutes
answering questions in the chat well and

604
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.679
like rapid fire style. So if
you would, how did you Uh,

605
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:37.800
I'm not gonna tell you that.
Come on, like, okay, okay,

606
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.880
not how did you find Victor?
What does he have to say?

607
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:43.519
What does he have to say?
Now? Okay? When I first called

608
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:45.599
him, he said, hello,
John Stewart, And I said, how

609
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:50.199
did you know? Was me?
He's like, it's called caller ID very

610
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.960
jovial, not the not the jerk
Victor and his wife starts laughing in the

611
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:59.559
background, not at me, but
like you know and and I and I

612
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:01.280
just he said, look, I've
been looking for you for thirty years.

613
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:07.239
There is no argument here. Please
accept my my you know, my my

614
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:15.960
right fort righte style of speaking to
you. But I know you are Victor.

615
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:19.480
And he said who? I said, I know your Victor from the

616
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.719
Alien Interview film. Now I'm trying
to not say his name, so I

617
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:28.800
don't say his name. So he
goes, he's not real, He's not

618
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:35.280
he is not trying very hard to, like, you know, pretend he's

619
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:37.679
not him. He goes, oh, oh, that little film that leaked

620
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:43.199
out. I thought you to know
what Victor and the film was. And

621
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:46.639
he asked me to call him at
normal business hours. He was very polite.

622
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:51.440
Boom hung up. Then I sent
him an email. Can I call

623
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.639
you between eleven and twelve on Tuesday. I'm making Tuesday MP. I don't

624
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:58.679
know what day it was, yeah, writes me back. Yes, at

625
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:04.039
eleven oh one. Remember on the
Art Bell Show, he is in sense

626
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.039
at art Bell because he got somebody
got a wrong phone number and he wants

627
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:12.320
to do so. So remember that. At eleven oh one, my phone

628
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:16.000
rings. It's his I got him
on caller ID now and I'm like bye

629
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.440
bye, blah blah by b hello. He's like, I thought you were

630
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:23.400
supposed to call me at eleven o'clock, Victor for being a jerk. I'm

631
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:25.920
like, it's eleven o one,
I said, And here again I almost

632
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:30.960
said his name, I said,
I thought, I said in the email

633
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.679
between eleven and twelve, when I
am so sorry, are you able to

634
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:37.639
speak? He's like, well,
I told you I was able to speak

635
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:39.840
at eleven. I'm like, you're
being Victor? Are you being Victor on

636
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:45.960
purpose? Are you beating this much
of a jerk on purpose? And you

637
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:52.760
know he has skipped around things,
he has seen himself and Victor. He's

638
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:57.360
like, that's uh, that's my
dapple ganger. He goes any which I

639
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.000
think says it all. He said, well, what the director tell you

640
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:04.159
my name was? I thought,
you're not Victor? What do you care

641
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:08.079
what the director said? And then
he said, I just can't admit that

642
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:14.400
I'm Victor. I can't admit that
I'm this guy. What's your level of

643
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:19.719
confidence? Oh? Oh? I
sent this to three podcasters, my agent,

644
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:23.360
two lawyers. I mean, they're
there. It's laughable. His picture

645
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:29.880
from ninety seven to Victor's picture from
the ninety seven it's it's not it's not

646
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:34.079
similar. It's the same guy.
I mean, it's it's ridiculous. It's

647
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:37.719
like my picture now and then a
picture of me wearing a blue shirt.

648
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:43.360
I mean, it's it's people were
laughing. Jack Conners of Cosmic Road sworn

649
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:46.519
a secrecy He's like, this is
ridiculous. This is He's like, this

650
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:50.920
is not even it's not even close. It's him. I mean, it's

651
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:55.239
it's I. Victor goes, oh, even the hairline matches. I said,

652
00:53:55.280 --> 00:54:00.639
you know what, you also cross
your wrists the same as Victor.

653
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:07.239
And he's like, yeah, that
is true. And I mean it was

654
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.760
like I was a police officer having
a guy, you know, with blood

655
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:16.480
on his hands in the interrogation room
and he's doing mental gymnastics to get around

656
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:22.480
this, which scared the crap out
of me, because why are you not

657
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:30.079
admitting fourthright me that you're Victor because
you're scared of this film and you being

658
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:34.599
associated with this film that you could
still be in trouble. Why can you

659
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:38.880
still be in trouble because you stole
government top secret information? I think,

660
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:45.159
I mean the people that are being
threatened currently, and I mean between deb

661
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:51.320
and Courtney and Nathan, they could
do probably ten minutes on people who have

662
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:55.360
been threatened that they know of in
the community that are high profile former government

663
00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:00.440
people. So he has a good
reason to be scared. And if I

664
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:07.079
were him, I wouldn't reveal my
identity. But how were you is and

665
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:08.719
just give me like a yes or
kind of a yes or no? On

666
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:14.400
this? Does it seem like he
wants to convince you in any way that

667
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:17.840
he's Victor, because if so,
then you could ask he doesn't no,

668
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:24.000
so, but he's not smart enough
to be smart enough to not to tell

669
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:27.159
me. Well, what did the
director tell you? My name was?

670
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:30.519
Well, I just can't tell you. I just can't admit he said,

671
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:36.519
I'm Victor. Right, Well,
if you were to, is there a

672
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:40.000
question that you feel like you could
ask him that he would answer that only

673
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:44.559
Victor would know? Like, do
you so much about him? Again?

674
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:49.159
I wrote, folks, not only
is the visual I d not close,

675
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:54.519
it is spot on perfect. I
even have him wearing a three piece brown

676
00:55:54.679 --> 00:56:00.559
suit like he wore in the video. And we wrote my invent figurators,

677
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:07.920
and I wrote down twenty three questions
or twenty three like a line item to

678
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:14.559
prove also, besides visual documentation,
he is Victor. We have found out,

679
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.800
in my opinion, or I have
found out how he got a pitch

680
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:22.159
meeting with Fox before he got on
with Rocket Video. How is the government

681
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:28.639
employee getting a pitch meeting with unscripted
television in Fox? You can't do that

682
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.599
now, let alone in ninety six, let alone be we know why.

683
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:38.000
Now everything he talked about I can
trace back to him in his bio.

684
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:45.639
We had twenty three we now have. We added two more like lines that

685
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:52.000
directly did directly check to him and
his bio. This, folks, that

686
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:58.960
is game set in match. People
have seen this, have seen the face

687
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:04.199
the two against each other. It's
over, it's over them. I found

688
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:08.039
him, you know, well,
I'm the video probably not well, Yeah,

689
00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:12.280
I believe you, And I told
you. I was speaking with the

690
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.559
Thought Leader the other night and he
said, I hope he comes out,

691
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:16.800
And I said, I hope he
doesn't. And he said, why do

692
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:21.800
you hope he doesn't? I said, because if he came out tomorrow and

693
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.719
went before news cameras from five different
networks, nobody would believe him anyway.

694
00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:30.800
They still think he's lying. So
why why put yourself in danger for people

695
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:34.639
to say you're a liar anyway?
And how can you prove it? And

696
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:37.320
first of all, his voice is
disguised, so there's all that. So

697
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:40.800
there's no reason for him to come
out because it's not going to further the

698
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:45.679
topic, and all it will do
is put him in the same kind of

699
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:50.880
danger that others are in, without
going into their names. Number twenty five

700
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:59.920
lines that if he's Victor, he
would bloom twenty five points of interest connect

701
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:06.480
Victor to this person. It's over. I did it. I believe I

702
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:09.320
did it. I know that I'm
just talking. I believe as much as

703
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:14.480
I believe in Lumel not. All
right, let me get to some of

704
00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:17.199
these questions here. Let's do these
in a rapid fire fashion so we could

705
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:20.960
get out of here in the next
five minutes. I'm my answer. Yeah,

706
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.880
does does John? Let me put
this? Let me let the cabbys

707
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:27.719
read, Nathan, you got a
wonderful reading voice. God bless you.

708
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:30.480
Where is it there? You go? Is it there? It's not showing

709
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:34.760
up there? He goes, Sorry, sorry about that. I think I

710
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.280
was clicking when you were clicking.
Does John believe that in the near future,

711
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:42.159
AI and general AI will be able
to analyze such material and videos and

712
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:46.239
say definitively it's real or not?
I do. Okay, that's a fair

713
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:52.440
answer, Mick. If those are
a perfect scenario to put AI on and

714
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:58.039
it can sort of evaluate if there's
other creatures that sixteen millimeter film stock,

715
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:02.840
then transfer to VHS. We have
proven that. So who's using sixteen millimeter

716
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:07.760
film stock in nineteen ninety six?
Okay, Debs, go ahead, and

717
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:12.079
I'm with you. Go ahead,
Debs, would you okay? Well,

718
00:59:12.360 --> 00:59:15.320
you see, I'm sorry. If
this Victor is true, there won't be

719
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:22.280
twenty twenty five Copito. Main message
of the alien was end of the world

720
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:29.119
period, not that you're not alone. They don't come from other planets light

721
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:35.599
years away. If Victor said that
that they believe they come from other dimensions,

722
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:37.960
and the alien did not say the
end of the world, Victor said

723
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:44.159
the end of the world would happened
before the twentieth anniversary. And we had

724
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:50.360
a solar class X flare missed the
world the planet Earth by about three days

725
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:53.800
in twenty and twelve. That would
have wiped this out. So don't say

726
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:59.280
that Victor didn't know his craft back
in nineteen Back in two thousand and eight,

727
01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:06.599
I want a T shirt Victor's my
homie, Courtney. I think she

728
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:10.280
wanted to be a skep. I
got it. Okay, did Victor admit

729
01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:15.519
to knowing about your investigation? Great
question. He knows nothing about me.

730
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:22.159
He knows nothing about the investigation.
Whatnot. I don't believe that, but

731
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:24.920
I am being honest and I am
telling you what he told her. He

732
01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:28.920
was dumb owner, who I am? You know? So on and so,

733
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:31.360
which I believe is a lie.
But I'm telling you what he told.

734
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:37.320
Okay, this one right here is
from Ben, and I'm going to

735
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:45.000
prove to Nathan that I can read
because he's he's questioned that DJ is DJ

736
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:50.159
is the man. I was like
thinking, he's writing in Latin. Okay,

737
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:53.480
this data, my friends, Who
is in the community. Who in

738
01:00:53.559 --> 01:01:00.920
the community has peer reviewed any of
this data? Richard Douglas support and these

739
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:07.960
who else support these conclusions? Who
else has been allowed to verify Victor?

740
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:12.199
So you've got three questions from Ben. Thank you, sir Richard Dolan.

741
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:17.679
Now, not everyone has seen the
full complexity of the information. Richard Dolan,

742
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:22.480
doctor Greer, Linda Mouldenhowell, doctor
Salah Sean West, who is the

743
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:30.199
agent to all of the UFO celebrities
and stars, Jack Connors, Vinnie Adams,

744
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:34.440
the UK podcaster, has seen some
of this. Jack Connors has seen

745
01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:37.159
most of this from Cosmic Road.
He has become a trusted friend of mine.

746
01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:43.599
So again, thank you for that
question. Hoaxers, scam artists and

747
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:49.400
gripters don't share their info. That's
how you keep the con going. I

748
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:52.719
shared every bit of this info.
Yes, it has been peer reviewed,

749
01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:59.199
and investigator Chris Todd you can see
him on Cinema's TV, has gone over

750
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:02.679
everything game set and match. He
did, ojay, he did John Bennet,

751
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:07.960
you know this. I've said this
to everybody that I trust. So,

752
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:09.760
yes, it has been peer review. That is a great question.

753
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:15.079
And there there, it's what everyone
says is we don't know what to say.

754
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:21.280
I mean, nobody can say anything
to the bucket. No, we

755
01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.480
got to go on to the next
question. Ben probably wants an analyst at

756
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:29.599
my level to you know, to
analyze this material. And I'm sure you

757
01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:32.000
can appreciate that. That's where you
laugh, Nathan, I'm sorry, Good

758
01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:39.760
God. Yes, I guess John
is your former investigative partner agree with your

759
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:45.320
conclusions? Well, I have five
Oh the former investigator, no, because

760
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:51.280
he thinks he found Victor. He
thinks Professor Jerry Schwartz from the University of

761
01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:55.159
Arizona is Victor. Let him think
that all. I'm glad that he actually

762
01:02:55.320 --> 01:03:00.519
came out again with a possible Victor
timestamping that he does not know who my

763
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:06.039
Victor is. Yes, we both
agree that this is an authentic video of

764
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.960
an extraterrestrial He believes it's Colin Powell
to the left. The force show that

765
01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:15.840
the foreground I've ad it hyper examined
at about seven hundred dollars. It does

766
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:22.360
not look different lips than Colin Powell. We disagree on that, you know,

767
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:28.320
uh, but you know, we
both agree that where there is oddly

768
01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:31.639
enough that yes, it's, without
a doubt, an authentic depiction of an

769
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:37.599
extraterrestrial interview. He just mad that
people have come out to help me and

770
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:40.119
not him. He doesn't have a
phone, he doesn't call people, he

771
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:44.599
doesn't email a lot of people.
You can't be an investigator and sit in

772
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:46.599
front of your computer. You got
to get out there. So that's why

773
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:52.320
I've been as successful at this as
a Jew myself, an Italian Jew.

774
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:55.960
I could tell you that Victors no
Jerry Schwartz, all right, I mean

775
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:00.000
I can say that unequivocally, Victor
is not someone who's ever been to a

776
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:03.679
sator dinner in his life, right, all right, and had mats of

777
01:04:03.719 --> 01:04:06.679
ball soup. Even I would,
I would, I would submit Victor has

778
01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:15.320
not had mats of ball soup anyway, then forgetting ninety seven we have is

779
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:18.440
thin like Victor in the documentary in
two thousand and eight, he's in the

780
01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:24.159
counter with a follow up documentary.
He's poortly, my guys, is my

781
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:27.480
guy's portly too. Body. I
mean, I'm not gonna say anymore,

782
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:32.440
but even body, the bodies are
the same in different eras. It's amazing.

783
01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:35.599
I think you should Amazing, John, I think I think you should

784
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:40.800
speak to Victor about fitness and maybe
going to the gym and things like that.

785
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:45.440
So just consider having a thought.
Okay, I'm not gonna say that.

786
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:49.360
Yeah he's old. Oh yeah,
he's older than us that way,

787
01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:55.840
Yeah, yeah, because he would
have been. I mean, he's not

788
01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:59.360
that much of a he's not that
much of it as they came out to

789
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.199
be. Know what, there was
very it was very nice that he was

790
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:08.159
great whiskey mellows with age. All
right, I'll tell you what, thank

791
01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:11.199
you, I'll tell you what.
That was really fun, and thank you

792
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:15.119
for getting to all those questions in
the chat, and thank you everybody for

793
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:18.840
stopping in. New folks, we
would really appreciate it. If it looks

794
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:24.519
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if you would subscribe to our channel,

795
01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:29.199
we would greatly appreciate that, And
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796
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:34.679
button on this video, we would
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797
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:40.840
one finger. I don't know what
that means, but anyway, thank you.

798
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:45.079
Keep pushing John. Absolutely, John, anybody who's going and doing that

799
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:47.239
work like you're doing, we have
great appreciation. So thank you so much.

800
01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:54.159
Let's go with Kabi Kabas starting with
our homie study of UAP debs.

801
01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:59.360
I wish I'd had time to ask
a question, but instead, all right,

802
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:03.000
ma'n no, I just I want
to instead just encourage you. Maybe

803
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:09.159
I know this isn't your path per
se, but to do some comparison on

804
01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:15.400
this investigation with some of the other
military folks who are talking about very similar

805
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:23.400
encounters, which I'm sure you've caught
Linda before. And of course the skinny

806
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:27.599
Bob, because I find that also
a big mystery, which is a real

807
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:30.960
video put through shutterstock, real video. Look at the time stamp on the

808
01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:35.079
bottom right. So maybe when you
come back, I can ask you some

809
01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:41.480
questions about your thoughts on how how
both those things tie into this investigation.

810
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:45.039
That's what I'm curious about, because
it seems like there's a lot connected to

811
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:51.320
this and this is not the only
example of what's going on with this information.

812
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And thank you so much for updating
us. I'm thinking of going any

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more updates in the future, and
hopefully Victor will tell you how he even

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knew about the alien interview, because
that's not exactly something everybody knows about.

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So that's truant to get him drunk, that's my goal. Yeah, yeah,

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that's sort of like a red herring
that, yeah, you're going to

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try and get him drunk. Thank
you. I totally support that because they

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don't visit me. He's like,
if you want to come, Okay,

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that's awesome. That is really awesome. Well, you're a great personality,

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Nathan. Yeah. John, I
don't doubt that you are going to continue

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on to this quest, and I
wish you all the best of luck,

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love, the energy and tanasty that
you have for this, the passion that

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you have for this. You were
the person who was destined, in my

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01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:45.159
opinion, to chase this down.
So I really appreciate you sharing your results

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and continuing to keep us updated.
I do think you're working really hard to

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be as transparent as you possibly can
while protecting those sources, which I think

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is very very important to do.
I hope we're getting closer to that day

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where we're going to get some really
hard verification. I feel like we are.

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Every day that goes buying for what
I feel like we're a little bit

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closer, and you're a part of
that story. So thank you for that

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effort and looking forward to having you
back than you appreciate. And before I

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think, John, I just want
to throw out another nugget about there about

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potentially what video, uh if any
like this that congressmen or women have seen.

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And I was speaking with James about
this, and when you look at

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his interview that he did with Jim
SEMMI van you and understand the clearance level

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that you have to have to look
you would have to have to get a

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video like this. I don't believe
any one of those folks in Congress outside

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of a Gang of eight member,
so definitely not Luna or any of those

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folks that that were referenced, would
have a clearance that they would show another

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interview like this. So I believe
if they saw a video, they probably

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saw the video that on is referencing
here. I don't think they would have

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the Clarence level to see anything that
was still in the vault, so to

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speak, that hadn't escaped. That's
that's my opinion. I can't back that

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up, but I don't I don't
think they would have that that Clarence level.

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And one of the things that Jim
pointed out is, oh, I

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mean. And one of the things
that Jim Semivan pointed out is even if

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someone like mar Marco Rubio said,
you know, I really want this information

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and said, okay, you know, senator, you really want this,

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we'll bring in a skiff. Okay, once you just sign this piece of

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01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:38.920
paper, and after you signed that
piece of paper and you read what you're

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legally liable for in the criminality of
releasing that, well, now he's held

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with that information and he can't do
anything with it anyway. So that's why.

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And you know, check out James
Eindolly's interview with Jim semi Van.

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It's going to tell you everybody a
lot about that. A lot of us

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01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:02.000
didn't know that I didn't know about
how much of this goes from these SAPs

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01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:05.760
up to the executive branch and bypasses
Congress and et cetera, et cetera.

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It's three hours worth of goodness.
John, thank you for joining us again,

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01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:15.760
my friend, and just on short
notice, giving you your time,

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01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:19.840
giving us your time. We really
appreciate it and I can't will. I

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01:10:19.880 --> 01:10:24.359
am always interested to see anything that
you put out. Please send it to

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01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:28.680
us so we can put it out
on all our CAB channels. And I

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just wish you great luck and success
and thank you for doing what you're doing.

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Okay, thank you, Thank you
all of you and your viewers and

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01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:42.079
listeners. Thank you for supporting me. And I say from the bottom of

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01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:45.000
my heart, God bless all of
us. We're gonna We're gonna need it.

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We are definitely gonna need and that's
why people in the chat are saying

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John for president. So on behalf
of John Stewart and Dev's and money Nathan

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01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:58.439
and Julie in the Chad. Thank
you so much. Julie. This is

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DJ saying peace out, one love. We'll see you down the road and

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we're always wondering what's up around the
bend. Peace. See you guys later.