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Welcome back everyone to a new episode
of You're Wrong with Molly Hemingway and David

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Harsani. So, Molly, if
you were taking a mug shot, would

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you be like one of the people
who smiles and pretends nothing is going wrong

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for you? Or you would you
be a scowler, you know, a

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person sort of standing up against the
man. I have thought about this a

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lot for obvious reasons, and I
do love a smiling mug shot. I

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expected the former president to be smiling
in his mug shot. He was not.

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He nailed it like he nailed that, like I'm coming for you look.

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But I think I would do a
smile. I liked when Tom Delaye

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did it. I thought David Schaeffer
in the Georgia Republican Party chair, I

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loved his mug shot and he knew
he nailed that one. He was smiling.

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He turned it into his profile pick. And I thought Jenna Ellis also

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did a great job with her mug
shot. What would you do? I

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think I'd have to be a smiler
because I think my scowly I'm coming for

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your face would just be comedic,
right, It wouldn't. No one would

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be scared of it, right,
and I would look at you know,

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I would look ridiculous, so I
would I would smile. That would be

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my way of doing it. Do
you expect Do you expect to be jailed

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for anything? Or it be well, the way things are going, perhaps

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both of us will find ourselves there
day. Yeah, I'm just preparing for

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it. I have no idea what
the chumped up cause will be, but

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I'm just assuming that that will happen. I think if you're effective, you

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get arrested, you get fired,
you know, stuff like that. Yeah,

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I don't because I hardly leave my
house. But never know, we'll

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see. I will smile if it
happens. I'll be you know, I'll

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be low on the list, right, so by the time they get to

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my muck shot, I'll just be
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of those pictures where they have like
a hundred of people's muck shots. I

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don't think it's going to be anything, you know that's spectacular. It was

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interesting. So let's talk about this
muck shot for a minute, because I

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think it was the moment that you
know, so many people have been waiting

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for. They was so excited about
it. I honestly I should have maybe

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I did say it. I'm not
sure if I did. I expected it

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to sort of backfire a bit.
I just it is a now just this

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picture that people use in defiance of
what they see and rightfully, in my

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view, see as a political prosecution. And obviously I think Trump pulled in

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like seven million dollars that day or
some huge number. It was more than

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any other day of the campaign.
Do you think, you know, what

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did you think of it? I
mean, did you did you think that

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it backfired? Do you think it's
going to matter for the general or things

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like that, or do you think
it's just sort of for his fans or

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primary voters. Does a change anything? I thought it kind of clarified some

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stuff. So first off, you
need to acknowledge the power that the Democrats

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have right now. They are jailing
their political opponents. They are arresting and

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charging their political opponents for political reasons
up to it, and including the former

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president of the United States who's also
the head Republican He's the top Republican guy,

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he's the odds on favorite to be
the nominee, and he has a

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really good chance of winning re election
of being reelected president. In that split

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term sense, that's so much more
important than the morale building of the mug

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shot For the right, you know, like they're using their power to accomplish

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their goals. But I thought that
the mug shot was interesting for two reasons.

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One, it definitely was this thing
where I think people thought that once

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there was a mug shot, it
would decrease Republican support for him, and

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that's definitely not happening, as evidenced
by the fundraising and other issues. I

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also think the left thought it would
feel better to get the mug shot than

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it did. Like, when you're
jailing your political opponents, you're in a

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class of people with Stalin Hitler Mao
putin like that that's your tribe now,

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and that doesn't feel very good.
It is very reminiscent of the are We

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the Baddies sketch from that British comedy
Troupe, where they're they've played the part

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of Nazis who are suddenly realizing that
they're the bad guys. They're like,

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we have scary looking insignias and we
kill people. Are we the bad people?

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Are we the bad ones? Well? I wouldn't go as far as

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you just went, but I will
say that, I think that you give

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them the opposition too much credit.
I don't think they very much feel bad

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about it. I think that they're
less excited because it and have the effect

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that they hoped it would have.
It wasn't as embarrassing for the president,

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who I don't think can be embarrassed
really a former president. But I will

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say this now, whatever you make
of the charges, whatever you make of

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the indictment in in in Atlanta or
whatever, it is clear to me,

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at least as a person who is
not a Trump fan, that this is

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a political prosecution because of the timing
of the trials and the timing of the

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indictments and all of that stuff.
Like Jack Smith had what two and a

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half years to come up with a
crime, and he could only push this

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indictment six you know, what is
it, six months before the primaries or

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or whatever it was, and now
you have what's her name, Tanya Chutkin

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setting setting a trial on this kind
of massive, you know, case,

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a historic case, and for what
is it the trials the day before the

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Super Tuesday or something like that.
I mean that's not an accident, you

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know, I mean, these are
these this is meant to interfere with the

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election. I think, unlike you
that I believe they think Trump can be

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beaten, but they want to make
sure by completely weakening him or even throwing

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him in jail. I think it'd
be happy to do that too, And

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that's what this is about. At
least that's how I see it. No,

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I think it's not interference in the
election. It's actual rigging of the

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election. This is designed to control
the outcome of the twenty four election.

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By the way, not just for
the presidency, but when you do this

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type of thing, it affects everybody. The actual goal is to do the

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show trials quickly. Any reasonable judge
would have set this well down the line

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so that people could go through all
the documents that Jack Smith had been able

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to go through for years and years
and years. The Democrats have been working

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on this case for years and years
and years. So Trump the victim of

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this, which Hunt needs that time
to go through everything, and he doesn't

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have the resources of the federal government. It's a big thing. Any reasonable

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judge would have set the case for
after the election, just full stop.

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The idea is to have the show
trial result in a conviction. That's why

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it's happening in DC, so that
they could charge him with anything, and

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regardless of the facts, he would
be convicted and get him thrown off the

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ballot in certain states. That's why
you also saw people start to like openly

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talk about this very interesting legal theory
that's ridiculous where they can keep him off

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the ballot in California, keep him
off the ballot and other sapphire blue states,

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and by doing that they will also
hurt his coat tails, so you

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might lose some seats, some congressional
seats in California and other otherwise. Yeah,

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and everybody for the entire election is
going to have to answer questions about

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Trump's trial and what's going on with
Trump. I mean, that is going

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to be the center of attention for
the vast majority of media. See.

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Isn't that good for Republicans? Though
I don't know about that. I think

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the center of attention should be the
Biden presidency and the Biden failures and the

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Biden maybe impeachment, right, I
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talked about. Well if you are
a Republican elected official and you can't turn

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a question about the political prosecution of
Trump into the protection that the DOJ is

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giving the Biden crime family. You
don't deserve to be reelected, Like every

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single question should be pounding the DOJ
and Biden. If you can't do that,

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like you just should get out of
politics. Here. Here's a thing

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that I think will affect some folks
who are not Trump you know, fans,

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but are Republicans but or not even
the Trump fans but not politically inclined

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to think about politics all the time, is that they're going to be worried

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that this thing is going to and
it will because if Trump's found guilty,

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he'll take it to the Supreme Court. It will be a case about immunity,

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it will be a case about the
presidency and the executive in the power

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of the executive and all that they'll
be worried that this will just take over

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his whole presidency. I think that's
part of it as well, just to

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create this fear that, you know, to first make you defend someone who's

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being you know who as a muckshot, as susandicted who's on trial, but

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also then think about the long term
implications of this. And I do worry,

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you know, setting outside of everything, you know, the fairness and

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all that that that will be something
that hurts all Republicans, especially Trump in

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a general election. Do you how
do you think this stuff plays out with

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kind of like the middle of the
road independent voter who might be inclined to

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vote for Republicans. I think it
honestly depends. We are crossing so many

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lines here that never should have been
crossed. The what Democrats are willing to

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do because of their hatred, Like
they're just so consumed with hatred that they

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are losing their minds and they're willing
to sacrifice the country over it. So

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I do think this will require some
courage from people. Like part of the

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reason that contributed to the twenty twenty
election turning out the way it did is

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that a lot of people are kind
of weak and cowardly and not able to

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take fights that come to them.
And I do worry about that, like

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the country also just seeing like how
much people were willing to roll over for

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a lot of like COVID pandemic response. We're not in the healthiest place for

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the body politic, But when people
try to destroy your country, and they

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are, I mean, they're coming
after freedom of speech, freedom of the

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press, right of the people to
petition their government for a redress of grievances,

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the right to an attorney, like
all these things that we thought were

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so okay because because they're in the
Constitution, the Bill of Rights, we

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didn't really worry about. Even if
you have political opponents who are a little

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carried away, we didn't think they
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right now. So if you it's
got the same thing. If you're not

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willing to fight for your country when
it's pretty easy all you have to do

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is vote the right way, you
basically have given up the country yourself.

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Yeah, I mean, I agree
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Trump factor makes it somewhat difficult for
people. And you know, I know,

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it's just the reality. I mean, because everything becomes about him and

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it's difficult for people to separate those
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given great opponents. What I mean
by that is if you're even just like

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moderately reasonable, you look at this
and you go, wow, have they

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lost their minds? And are they
doing really horrible things? So beyond appropriate

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what Jack Smith is doing, what
Fanny Willis is doing, And it's not

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just that they're going after Trump and
anyone who supports him, it's that they're

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protecting their political tribe with we all
see open corruption. I was just thinking

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about how Joe Biden will probably go
down as one of the most corrupt presidents

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we've had. It's weird, you
know, like you just sort of thought

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of him as a middle of the
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because of what a few whistleblowers and
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expose, you see that he's emblematic
of just massive DC corruption that the DOJ

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did not. You know, I
keep thinking about Jack Smith. Jack Smith,

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the guy who's trying to kill Donald
Trump, is the guy who was

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in charge of investigating corruption of public
officials during the Obama presidency when Joe Biden

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and his family were bringing in millions
upon millions of dollars. I'm going to

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get to that Obama stuff and then
yeah, in a minute, because I

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think it does tie in in a
certain way, and it's interesting. Just

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I'll just say this about Biden is
that you're right, the perception of him

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and sort of just this middling,
a middle you know, sort of moderate,

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you know, every day middle class
person has always been a complete mythology.

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He's been a terrible person. He's
been an incredible pathological liar, not

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just about politics, about himself,
and just a creepy person and a very

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also a middling intelligence, I'd say
so, like he's always been that way.

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And when the more I think about
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him and his and his campaign because
he didn't really have the campaign, that

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is itself almost a hoax on the
American people, right, I mean,

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he is not the person that they've
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existed. That's besides all the corruption
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Trump was on with Glenn Beck the
other day and Glenn asked him about this

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issue where, you know, he
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he was going to prosecute or lock
up or whatever he said, Hillary Clinton,

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and then when the time came that
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he didn't. And I think he
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you know, that's not what we
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but he said that things would be
different next time and that he would

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he would he has no choice but
to go after her and his political enemies,

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and he has to lock them up
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trying to lock him up. And
across left wing media, you know,

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this was you know, the headline
of this quote was, you know,

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Donald Trump threatens to lock up political
enemies, not that his that his enemies

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are trying to lock him up as
well. What do you what do you

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think of this kind of thing?
Worries me. I know that most Republicans

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are all on board, and actually
I think Hillary Clinton does belong you know,

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did act in a criminal manner and
deserves to be prosecuted. Actually,

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but this idea that we're just going
to go after each it's just a set

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of ratchets up stuff in a way
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Do we need a president who's going
to calm things down in anyway or do

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we need a president who's going to
like exact revenge on these Hey, y'all,

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Trump's saying that there's no option but
to go after political opponents who deserve to

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be in jail or whatever. I
do think Unfortunately, the only way this

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stops is if Democrats are jailed for
any number of things. It was I

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think we talked about this on the
show a few weeks ago. A lot

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of people voted for Trump in part
because they didn't like the corruption of Hillary

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Clinton, who was credibly accused of
mishandling classified information, among other things,

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and people do always say lock her
up. When he was elected, He's

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like, Nam, we don't do
that. We don't go after political opponents,

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like we just have to like lower
the temperature. And in response to

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him being that way and being like
completely hands off with the Department of Justice,

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despite everything you heard about how he
wasn't that way. It was given

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very good counsel by his White House
counsels on what not to do, and

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he was not. He had a
Department of Justice that never operated as his

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I mean, to begin with,
he had Jeff Sessions, who wanted to

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be Attorney General, didn't tell Trump
he was going to recuse himself from reigning

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in a corrupt department of Justice when
he took the gig. So you had

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years of just corruption at DJ undermining
the Trump administration, going after political allies

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of the Trump administration, protecting political
opponents. It was very, very bad.

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They ran the Russia collusion hoax out
of the Department of Justice during the

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Trump administration. That's bad. That's
a really bad situation. But I don't

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necessarily read him as saying like he
would do it, but just that Republicans

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need to start responding forcefully to this. They should impeach every single person they

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can who's involved in things like impeach
Tanya Chuckin, the daughter of communists communist

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revolutionaries in Jamaica. I think was
what the New York Post reported, who

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is making a mockery of rule of
law. Impeach her, prosecute Barack Obama

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for all his shady money deals.
Just find a place where he did a

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shady money deal and have the local
DA jail him. I think once you

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start jailing Barack Obama or you know, other high level people, maybe Democrats

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will say, Okay, this was
not a good approach. I don't know.

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Maybe, what do you think,
how do you get out of this

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mess? I don't really know,
I am you know, I'm a I

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just feel like once you open these
doors as they have, it's difficult to

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come back from it. And you
know, if you, if you one

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of your key campaign promises, I'm
going to lock them up too. I'm

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not saying they don't deserve it,
right, I'm not saying they don't deserve

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to be I'm not necessarily locked up, but even indict or prosecute or investigate.

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But then again, I keep hearing
no one's above the law, so

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helor should be above the law.
Joe Biden shouldn't be above the law.

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Barack Obama shouldn't be above the law. So it becomes but you know what

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happens, it's I don't think like
you do that. Then the left,

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which is getting more and more progressive
and more radical, it is going to

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say, oh boy, wow,
we got to be careful. I think

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they're just going to just go for
it even more the next time they attain

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power. So I don't know,
is my auntswer I really don't know?

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Can we just's like it's like another
conflict though you know, you're in a

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war and the one side is killing
your people and raping your women. You

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know, you might not respond by
doing crimes, but you might respond with

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force, because if you don't,
you're just letting them destroy everything. Typically,

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in a American politics, when a
party gets out of lawn or someone

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gets out on let's just talk about
Richard Nixon, there's a heavy political price

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for that party to pay right through
through the elections. That doesn't happen anymore.

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I think that there's such a partisan
divide now that people don't really punish

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their own party for acting in ways
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So yeah, I don't know.
Now, you're right, I don't

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know how. I don't know how
you fight this war other than playing their

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game, and that gets pretty dangerous
for the Republican general. So to me,

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I don't know, as I was
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think it's a pretty bad situation right
now. What you need is you need

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some leadership from people on the left
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normalcy. But have you noticed that
there's not like there are never Trumpers,

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whatever you think of them. There
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that's sort of rising up against whatever
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never see that. On the left. There's no one ever challenged Barack Obama's

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attacks, and no one ever challenges
Biden right now. In fact, they

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cheer him on. They want him
to, for instance, just take student

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loans. They cheer him on to
circumvent Congress literally where they are the institution

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they're supposed to be protecting, and
they cheer him on to just ignore the

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Constitution. So how can you fix
something like that. I don't know how

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you can fix it. You need
new people in Washington, and that's you

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know, all the new people going
to Washington are more radical and more partisan

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than the people who leave. I
mean, it just becomes really a difficult

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situation. Can we just go back
last week we previewed the debate, but

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I don't think we spoke about it. Was there. Did you have any

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big any insight into that or takeaways? Idn't. I didn't think it.

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I didn't think it really that much
of an effect or matter. No,

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I think it was it was like
a good step to get through the fact

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that it didn't have much of an
effect is still something that people need to

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absorb and come to terms with.
I think when you have it just reminds

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me so much of twenty sixteen,
how Donald Trump was like always ahead in

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the polls and people would be like, yeah, but who was really gonna

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win? He's up what like fifty
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it's just it's it's absurd how much
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he keeps solidifying his support. And
you saw this. He didn't show up,

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he didn't do the debate. He
did drop a little bit in the

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polls, which is not completely surprising, but what happened to everybody else I

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thought was interesting. So it had
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then Ramaswamy and the Santists both at
ten, and then everybody else just battling

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in the like ones and twos.
After the debate, one of those polls,

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Emerson came out. It showed Trump
dropping the fifty. But the second

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place, it's not like someone broke
out there. The Santists I think,

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ticked up to twelve, Ramaswamy was
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like two others I can't remember who
they were who were at seven. So

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now that's second place has gotten to
be a little bit more of a race.

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Yeah, do you know what I
mean, like you've got four now

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contending between seven and twelve points.
That's interesting. That probably helps Trump to

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have a tight like a bunch of
people in the race for second. I

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just you know, as we move
forward, it's just seems very difficult for

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me to even imagine scenarios where where
where Trump loses if he if he sticks

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in it. The only thing I
can think of is perhaps someone really you

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know, surprising him in Iowa or
but he lost Iowa in sixteen, or

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New Hampshire, you know whatever,
and then maybe people start to take a

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second look at the other candidates.
I just don't I just I just think

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it's it's a tough spot. Trump
is eats up all the you know,

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he is in the lead for the
things we've mentioned that he was the president

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obviously, but also you know,
he is just knows how to bring attention

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to himself. You know, every
people having a debate and he's on with

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Tucker and you know, getting a
tons of people watching him. I don't

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know how you can overcome that,
just thinking about it. You know,

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there's a hurricane that's going to hit
Florida or maybe it already has, and

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desantists in my view, is doing
a good job, you know, and

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he's just a good governor. And
to me, I think this is not

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the kind of race that he can
win because for him, the kind of

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race to win is one where you
can talk about issue. Does hit talk

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about your you know, just have
these debates with with the with the front

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runner and maybe awig at him.
But he doesn't even have an ability to

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do that. This actually, that
actually kind of annoys me. This is

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a race on issues. It's clearly
a race on issues, and there's not

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much disagreement in the Republican Party on
the main issues. Like you look at

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the top three people, Trump,
Ramaswami and Descantists. They are all Ukraine

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War skeptics or people who want a
more realist approach to that war than the

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one being waged by the neo Khans. In the Democrat and Republican parties,

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you have broad agreement on the need
to control the southern border. You have

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agreement on the need to take on
China. So and they're all good on

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judges, Like if they're they're not, I'm sorry. They're all there in

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the top because of issues. Yeah, but everyone in every presidential race in

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a party generally agree on stuff.
It's how would you get those things done?

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Where you know, what is your
record on that, what is your

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record on when we did have lockdowns
or whatever it is. I just think

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more specifics on it. Yeah,
Yeah, DeSantis can't chip away a Trump's

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record in any way because Trump,
first of all won't even really engage in

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any kind of ways. I'm just
saying it's just too difficult for him.

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But I do think his campaign like
what he should do. I sort of

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think it's not a great year for
him to run, but that he's running.

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He is the nation's best governor by
far, and so his entire campaign

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should just be continuing to be the
nation's best governor. He does well when

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you see him, like, I
would not be surprised to see him tick

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up a little bit more. They're
they're definitely spending money now. They're working

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on things right now because they kind
of know that it's now or never.

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And he will presumably manage this hurricane
as well as he has managed the previous

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ones under his governorship. And he's
very confidence inspiring, he's very competent,

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and he's exactly who you want at
the head of a government operation. So

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so I think this is not like
it's a horrible it's horrible when tragedies hit

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and whether it's you know, this
is not but that's when like good,

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good, good, good governance actually
matters more than eighty or ninety percent of

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the other times, you know,
for for normal people just want to say,

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I don't know, I think that
Glenn Youngcan's pretty close to being as

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good a governor. Do you disagree
with that? The way he navigates a

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pretty difficult state for Republicans typically,
and he you know, he's pretty popular.

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He is a conservative, and he
does a really good job in presenting

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those issues in a palatable way,
I think for independence and moderates. I

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just think he's a pretty good governor
doing a great job. He was on

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Maria Barter Romo on Sunday, I
think it was, or maybe it was

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her morning show, I don't know, and I was watching a clip from

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it, and I know a lot
of people want him to enter the race.

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I think people need to be realistic
that just like inside the Republican Party,

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taking on Donald Trump is a very
difficult thing to come out on the

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other side in a better position.
I just don't think, yeah, this

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happens every race. You know,
everyone's always looking for some outsider to break,

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you know, to break the whole
the monopoly basically of the of the

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front runner. But who I mean, all he's gonna do him and to

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Santa's are just going to end up
splitting the c fifteen percent. Like no

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one is going from Trump, who
has rejected to Santis is saying, oh,

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what you know, Younkin's pretty good, Like it's just doesn't make sense.

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It's really to me. I do
think sometimes people enter the race for

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different reasons, Like Mike Pence is
not running to be president. He might

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be running to get on corporate boards, or maybe his top advisor, Mark

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Short is making Mike Pence run so
he can get on corporate boards where you

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can make a lot of money and
you can have increased money for speaking gigs

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and things like that. He's not
No one thinks Mike Pence is going to

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be Like literally nor probably including Mike
Pensing. You run for different reasons.

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Tim Scott kind of just viewed him
as actually running for vice president. I

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think Glenn Youngkin might get in to
run for vice president because of the situation

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with both de Santis and Trump.
Being from Florida, even though they would

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be an amazing duo, one would
have to leave and it would be hard

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for the governor of Florida to leave
Florida to get those electoral votes. So

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it's true, But I think Nkin
doesn't have to run to be tapped as

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a VP. I think it'd also
be a mistake for him to do that.

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I just I think you can run
for president next time and you don't

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really need to be VP. When
was allowed, you know, you know,

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yeah, I guess Biden was VP, but it was a weird situation.

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It's not like you need to be
in there. In fact, I

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think it kind of sidelines you in
many ways. And it's just like I

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don't think the Santas or you Kin
should do it. Republicans have this issue.

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Though Donald Trump is likely to be
the nominee, it's going to be

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a binary election. The fate of
the Republican presidential race will dramatically relate to

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the fate of Republicans controlling the Senate
and the House, and so the quicker

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the Republican Party kind of unifies around
what's reality and happening, the better.

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But to do that, you kind
of need you know, you pick a

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VP for a very particular reason at
the moment that you need them, like

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you need them to win the race. Right, But I could see Trump

408
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needing someone like young Kin or Scott, you know, someone who's conservative and

409
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liked by people and also very friendly
with establishment GOP. Yeah. I mean

410
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:08,119
you also have to think about states, even though it doesn't always work out

411
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,880
that way. But I mean Trump
to win needs to win Virginia, right,

412
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I mean, he needs to probably
win Arizona or Pennsylvania or one of

413
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these other states like Michigan, whatever. I don't want to get into this.

414
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Oh my god, just even thinking
about the map right now is frustrating,

415
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but so I don't know. Anyway, Let's I quickly want to mention

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one story I wrote about and I
saw you tweeting about it as well.

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Since we're on the Descantis issue,
did you see all these AP reporters and

418
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:40,839
NBC reporters essentially blaming, intimating,
insinuating, but almost more than that,

419
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that DeSantis has something to do with
the shooting in Jacksonville of the black customers

420
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at the dollar store or whatever school
Dollar General. I mean it is,

421
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,759
there's just another reminder that it doesn't
really matter which Republican is running or not

422
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,680
running. They're basically going to be
treated with the same, you know,

423
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:03,799
disdain or same. I don't even
It was just vile. So you know,

424
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the reason of course that this shooting
happened, according to Matt Dixon at

425
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:15,680
a at NBC News, is that
you know, uh, de Santist doesn't

426
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,920
like diversity, you know, officers
and schools or that, you know,

427
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:25,400
he he doesn't think he should be
taught pseudo history about you know, pseudo

428
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American history and schools things like that. It's just so vile, and I

429
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:33,839
it hit me that it happened so
often that sometimes I think we forget just

430
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,880
how commonplaces have become and how violent
really is. When you think about it,

431
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,799
it's like an unfalsib viable thing to
be called a racist, and they

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00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:48,160
do it all the time and in
the most just devious ways. Anyway,

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00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,720
you know, I know we've talked
about this before, but when I was

434
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:53,440
young, you know, AP was
like the gold standard for just straightforward journalism,

435
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,720
and now that place is just it's
just garbage. You know, they

436
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,039
forgot guy's name, but he wrote
a story like this as well. Steve

437
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:07,160
Peoples is his name, and I
saw that he did that at the same

438
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,880
day that the RNC announced that they
had rewarded the Associated Press for their propaganda

439
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:19,319
against Republicans by having them host a
GOP debate. Probably you're not going to

440
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,359
get much change when you respond to
a group that calls you racist and says

441
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:30,079
and campaigns constantly for your political opponents, and you give them a big prize,

442
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,039
they're probably not going to change.
So I think propulsions they get what

443
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:40,599
they ask for. Here the Washed
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445
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447
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450
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Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify,
or wherever you get your podcasts. I

451
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mean this kind of ties into my
constant complaint that all these big donors should

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00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:23,359
be forming journalistic institution or funding journalistic
institutions on the right. But also a

453
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,960
nice way to give people a lift, and I'm not saying the Federalist,

454
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,599
it could be other, whatever outlet
is to let them host these debates,

455
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,119
especially in the primary. They're going
to ask the questions that matter to primary

456
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,759
voters, not some AP reporter who's
gonna ask you about are They're gonna have

457
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:40,359
an AP reporter asking questions. I
mean, he's gonna ask about climate change

458
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,319
and you know all that. Actually, let's talk about the debate for a

459
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:46,440
second. Didn't there wasn't a single
quote, Wasn't there Like, didn't the

460
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:52,200
Republican debate not have like questions on
super important issues? I forget, it's

461
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,640
been so long a week, so
much happens in the Trump era, but

462
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,119
do you know what I'm talking about? Didn't they not ask a single question

463
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,119
on like a bunch of important issues. I forget which ones anyway, I

464
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:06,200
don't know. But the first question
was asked by a YAFF person. It

465
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:08,519
was Climate Americus Foundation, and it
was on climate change. Because I think

466
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:13,679
you really have your finger on the
pulse of the conservative young person when you're

467
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:20,400
asking questions about climate change. I
don't know, every bad question is an

468
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:27,880
opportunity to turn it around into a
good question. But conservatives are interested in

469
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,440
different Republican voters are interested in different
things than most corporate media are. So

470
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:36,400
yeah, they might all agree,
except for Chris Christy, who loves the

471
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,719
Department of Justice and recommended Chris Ray
to Donald Trump. So he's kind of

472
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,599
responsible for that. He vouched for
Chris Ray to be the best like FBI

473
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:49,119
head. Everyone else recognizes that the
Department of Justice is a big problem.

474
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:52,480
But like we just talked about the
question Glennbeck asked Donald Trump, like,

475
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:55,559
are you going to imprison political opponents? I would like to know what is

476
00:34:55,599 --> 00:35:00,159
their plan for taking on what the
Department of Justice has done to our country?

477
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,119
Not do you agree that it's they're
bad. Well, they're all going

478
00:35:02,159 --> 00:35:05,320
to agree that they're bad, But
what's the plan? What are you going

479
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,440
to do? What are some ideas
you have for how to save the country

480
00:35:10,039 --> 00:35:14,639
while the DOJ is going to war
against Americans? And I don't think that

481
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:17,119
I don't know. That's what I
would ask. No, you articulated what

482
00:35:17,159 --> 00:35:20,400
I was thinking in my rant.
I think, you know, it's not

483
00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:23,760
any politicians are good at what they
do. They typically can avoid any question

484
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,199
or say whatever they want. It
doesn't really matter. But for during primary

485
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,280
season, we want to dive into
It's like what I said before about the

486
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,920
santis and issues. How are you
going to change this? How are you

487
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,079
going to fix this? What are
you going to do? It's easy to

488
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:40,519
just you know, go off like
Ramaswamy does in my opinion, but if

489
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:45,239
you have to sort of drill deeper
into how you're going to fix these things,

490
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,440
I think it's important or any candidate, I don't want to pick on

491
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:50,280
him, even though I don't think
he's I Also, I'm not a big

492
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,320
fan of Nikki Hayley's because she's sort
of like that tired Republican person of the

493
00:35:54,360 --> 00:36:00,880
past whose ideas I think have been
roundly rejected by the best majority of Republican

494
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,519
voters. But I will say I
thought she did very well in the debate

495
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,639
to kind of kick out some of
those other people who are fighting for that

496
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:16,480
you know, twenty percent establishment friendly
vote. Yeah, when you mean tired

497
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:22,480
ideas? Are you mainly talking about
Neo KHN intervention form poll and stuff?

498
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:24,719
See. I think obviously foreign policy
is usually important, and I think all

499
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,599
this stuff we like to talk about
or we don't like to, but we

500
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:31,480
talk about the DOJ. The abuse
is all important. But I kind of

501
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:37,000
feel like there's not enough about the
economy and for me, at least,

502
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,760
helping the middle class and inflation and
these are things I think that a lot.

503
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,119
Maybe in the primaries it's less important, but I think in the general

504
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,679
you want someone who's really going to
hone in on those issues. Again,

505
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,960
I think you know, a lot
of people think Trump has support because he's

506
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,119
a personality. Well, he's also
articulating when he know, when he does

507
00:36:55,159 --> 00:37:00,639
his campaign events and he's putting out
policy papers. He's very focused on the

508
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:05,920
economy. He has the benefit of
having had a good having done things in

509
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,519
a verly smart way when he was
president, in a way that affected people's

510
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:15,239
bottom lines. And I don't think
he's got enough credit for the deregulation,

511
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,199
which you always elect Republicans in the
hopes that they will mount some kind of

512
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,519
deregulatory approach. He made that rule
that you couldn't have a new regulation without

513
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:30,880
getting rid of two others. And
also he had people at the agencies that

514
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:37,199
were just trying to get regulatory decisions
made quickly, even if they weren't decisions

515
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,679
that companies or the regulated industry wanted. Sometimes it just helps to know what

516
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,679
the decision is going to be so
you can build your business around it.

517
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:52,280
And the economic health that we had
under the Trump administration, I think relates

518
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,079
a lot to how he handled how
his people handled regulatory issues. How you

519
00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,840
notice everyone says economy is like their
number one issue. Aren't they talking about

520
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,199
it more? Yeah? But you
notice that there's a full court press,

521
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:07,519
you know, full court press from
the from journalists trying to convince everyone that

522
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:12,559
the economy is actually like the best
it's ever been. Look At the unemployment

523
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:15,000
rate, look at you know,
inflation is down. They keep saying,

524
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:20,360
we're not thinking that. You know, there's a you know, cumulative effect

525
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,719
of inflations and down at all.
It's still up and most it's not not

526
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,199
rising as high as quick exactly.
It's like spending cuts. It's like the

527
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:30,199
fake spending cuts. You know.
But but it also hit me when you

528
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,880
were just talking that, you know, Donald A lot of what Donald Trump

529
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,559
did that people like that were his
best accomplishments are just like old fashion e

530
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:45,639
Republican conservative things, tax cuts,
deregulation, being you know, judges,

531
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:51,599
oil, you know, energy productive. These are just but people always talked

532
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:54,719
about it, but they never really
followed through. When Donald Trump got out

533
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,880
of the Paris Climate Accords, I
remember Mitt Romney, and I mean,

534
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,800
now it's not surprising at all,
but Mitt Romney was calling on him to

535
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,440
not do that. That was the
immediate previous presidential nominee. And so you

536
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,599
say, like, oh, he's
doing stuff that anyone would do well.

537
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:14,199
Mitt Romney wouldn't know. And I
think we all know Mitt Romney would not

538
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,800
have gotten out of the parish.
No, I'm not saying that, actually,

539
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,960
I'm I'm actually not saying that.
What I'm saying is that a lot

540
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,239
of people took his presidency to me
and that there had been a complete realignment

541
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:28,119
in the thinking of voters. And
I'm just saying that the most the things

542
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:30,320
that he did that people like,
that he was the most successful at were

543
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,440
things that were promised by Mitt Romney
and George Bush, etc. So what

544
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,880
I'm saying only is that maybe that
those issues actually matter to people and he

545
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,119
should be talking about them more.
I'm not saying there isn't some kind of

546
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:44,920
realignment going on a little bit,
But I just don't know. It's this

547
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,280
earthquake that everyone thinks it is.
And the more I think about Donald Trump's

548
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,079
success, the things he did well, they're all very traditional things that Republicans

549
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:54,679
have promised forever. Yes, And
like you talk to these people who are

550
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,800
like, oh, well, Reagan
would have gone after the Soviet Union,

551
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,199
so we need to go to war
against Russia. It's like, okay,

552
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,840
if you really want to be Reaganesque, understand that the Soviet Union doesn't exist

553
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:14,360
anymore, that the dominant communist regime
is read China. They're very powerful,

554
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,760
they want to destroy us, and
that's the heir to the Soviet Union.

555
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,360
I'm not saying that Russia does not
have late, you know, the lagging

556
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,639
problems from their time as head of
the Soviet Union, but it's really China.

557
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:34,840
So we're told by the neo Khans
that focusing on China is not Reaganesque

558
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,360
and that doing the proxy war against
Russia is, and it's clearly not the

559
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,840
case. I think that that's a
very debatable. Their point is debatable.

560
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:47,039
I don't think Reagan was an adventure
adventurist when it came to foreign policy very

561
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:51,639
much at all. In fact,
after the Beyrut bombings, he really pulled

562
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:54,079
back even more. I don't think, you know, he went and spoke,

563
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,320
you know, he forged peace agreements
for the first time with Soviets,

564
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,679
things like that. I think their
conception of that is wrong. But also

565
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,280
I think that what Reagan did was
strengthened the US military in a way that

566
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:12,519
that's threatened and destroyed the Soviet Union
or at least help help finish them off.

567
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,639
Made the economy strong, which was
also important. Like I keep thinking

568
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,159
about China, people kind of go
straight to like, oh, we should

569
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:21,239
go to war, but China not
a great idea. Also, if you're

570
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,760
not even willing to do anything other
than war, you're not willing to do

571
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,119
war, like if you're not willing
to do tough stuff with economic issues.

572
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:36,800
And yeah, I think China is
as far weaker in the sense of their

573
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,960
economic strength, and people think,
I hope militarily they're very dangerous. Obviously,

574
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:45,760
they're a nuclear power, they were
a communist sort of whatever you want

575
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,400
to call them. I just think
they're sort of status you know, kind

576
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,800
of dictatorship. But but yeah,
so I think we could get another thing.

577
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,360
I think absolutely. I should say
another thing that I view as tired

578
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:02,320
is this like identity politics politics Republicanism, Like, oh, if we have

579
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,920
someone with the right identity saying these
conservative things, then we'll win over the

580
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:14,039
kids. And Nikki Haley keeps being
like men suck and women are great and

581
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,519
men just talk and women do.
First of all, it's not even my

582
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:22,639
experience. I'm not saying women just
talk and don't do. But if you're

583
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:24,679
going to have a sexist stereotype,
is that really true? Men don't Men

584
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,880
have never done anything in the history
of the world. I just it just

585
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,960
like totally turns me off and reminds
me of Hillary Clinton. And I know

586
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,079
a lot of women really love Nikki
Haley, like it makes them very excited.

587
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:42,800
But I just think the identity politics
is something the Republicans tried and failed

588
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:45,519
with a few years back. I
mean, you think if there's an organically

589
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,920
people of different you know, a
woman, a different minority, and they're

590
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,119
successful in the Republican Party, I
think that that's good because it just shows

591
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:58,199
that they have wider appeal. But
to specifically talk about it and pretend that

592
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:00,920
that's some strength you have. That's
kind of a dumb way to go about

593
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,719
it. I was thinking the other
day every movie I watched, whenever like

594
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,320
the middle aged white dude shows up
with the gray hair, I'm like,

595
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,079
oh, there's the villain, you
know, like it's just like the you

596
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:15,000
know I it's yeah, it's we're
oppressed. My brother and I used to

597
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:19,719
go to dollar movies that were like
old movies. They would bring back out

598
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,800
and every time, and it was
the type of theater that interaction was encouraged,

599
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:29,039
and every time like yelling at the
screen like yeah, like okay,

600
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,639
So every time the cop would show
up in the movie, he'd be my

601
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:35,000
brother would be like, oh great, it's the cops. That's this is

602
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:37,639
this will go well. You know, we're like, oh good because it's

603
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:43,480
always the bad guy. Okay,
yeah, it's actually let's just talk about

604
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:45,159
culture. Are we done? Yeah? Okay, I just want to mention

605
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:50,280
one last thing. I actually Joe
the Plumber dine, you were right,

606
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,559
yes, oh thank you? So
yeah. He famously, for people who

607
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:58,519
are younger might not know, he
famously sort of challenge Barack Obama on his

608
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:04,280
leftist economics. You know, and
he was where the media had never really

609
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,159
done it in any way, and
Obama had to explain himself and he did

610
00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:12,599
as usual you know that bid platitudes
and straw men and all that. But

611
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,960
it reminded me, and I think
that you would probably agree with me.

612
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,719
I think we've spoken about this that
a lot of our problems are political problems.

613
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,840
The way the abuses of government,
the way we talk about how government

614
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,960
should work, goes back to Barack
Obama's presidency, which I think was one

615
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,559
of the most destructive presidencies in memory, maybe you know, one of my

616
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:36,599
three least favorite presidents with FDRN.
Wilson just changed the way. He was

617
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:39,880
sort of the counter revolution to Reagan, right he you know, whereas Reagan

618
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,800
promised you that you could do things
on your own, that you didn't need

619
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,639
the government, he promised you the
government would be there from you know,

620
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:52,199
your birth to your death. Remember
that Julia The Life of Julia and stuff

621
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:57,159
like that. So he was just
the president of dependency. And now really

622
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,119
Joe Biden's his third you know,
it's a third term of Obama. And

623
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,239
I don't mean that Obama's pulling the
strings that maybe is I don't know,

624
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:09,519
but just as far as making his
dream or reality come true, I think

625
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:14,280
that you're seeing that happen right now. Anyway, just on the pulling the

626
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:19,119
strings, there were all these polls
out showing that not just Republicans and independence,

627
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:22,719
but even like seventy percent of Democrats
think that Joe Biden is too old

628
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,079
to be president. And people are
making a really big issue out of this.

629
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:31,920
But I feel like, whoever his
handlers are aren't eighty, you know,

630
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:37,159
whoever's actually doing things isn't eighty,
And for their purposes, having a

631
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:44,199
senile and competent fool like Biden actually
helps them accomplish their left wing agenda.

632
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:46,440
All the more, I do think
Barack Obama is heavily involved. I think

633
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,119
it's weird that he lives in Washington, DC, and that he's never left,

634
00:45:51,159 --> 00:45:52,840
and that he's said things like he
would really like to just have a

635
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,039
puppet in place so he could be
president but not actually have to go do

636
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:02,360
the speaking in public stuff. He
and his team are all over yeah,

637
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,159
White House are everywhere, So I
mean it's it's the say, it's the

638
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:10,079
same people all over the place within
the administration. It's not a you know,

639
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:14,800
I mean, I guess that happens
when you have you know, parties,

640
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,159
But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. I just don't know for sure,

641
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:20,840
and it doesn't really have a matter
to me. And also the old

642
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,239
thing, I'm sort of bye.
I was trying to figure out why I'm

643
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,000
bothered by that. Sometimes I think
it's true he is too old to be

644
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:30,039
president and he's sort of senile,
but he was never better. He was

645
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:31,440
never better when he wasn't senile,
you know what I mean. I feel

646
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:37,519
like it's an excuse to give him
for being a terrible president and a liar

647
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:40,440
and a fabuloust and a radical who
has no principles. You know, he'll

648
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:45,039
essentially take on the positions of whatever
his handlers have to tell him. And

649
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:49,079
he's been that way since he was
helping segregationists in the seventies, you know

650
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:52,280
what I mean. So it's not
an excuse for why he's terrible. I

651
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,480
don't pick numbers of ages and have
flat rules on them, like I go

652
00:46:55,559 --> 00:47:00,960
to church with Ruth Ring, who
famously kicked me off of Alter Guild about

653
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,760
twenty years ago. But anyway,
she's ninety five now, she's super like

654
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,920
she drives and nobody is worried about
her driving. She's so alert, like

655
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,800
she'll wave at you while she's driving
and you're walking on the side of the

656
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,760
you know, on the side of
the road, like she sees you before

657
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:19,880
you see her. She's very competent, great and whatever. And eight is

658
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,000
different for different people. There are
people who shouldn't be president at sixty.

659
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,719
Other people it's fine, But I
don't know, I just like a weird

660
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,000
thing. It's a weird thing to
avoid talking about what's actually a problem with

661
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:34,000
Joe Biden, which the age is, as you said, not the actual

662
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:37,239
thing. I remember I got to
this huge argument on an editorial board once,

663
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:40,360
unsurprisingly, and the person kept talking
about the Supreme Court justice is like

664
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,880
they were going to die in sequential
order of age. Like that's not how

665
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,079
the world works. You know,
some people on the Court are really old

666
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:52,880
and sharpest can be. And you
know, I mean, how old is

667
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:54,639
Judge Thomas. I mean Justice Thomas. He's got to be like eighty years

668
00:47:54,639 --> 00:47:59,360
old, right, I mean,
he is sharp, and it's not always

669
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,719
the same. So I agree with
that. And I also a kind of

670
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:07,280
a little bit contrained on this issue
of you know, everyone complaining about how

671
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:13,000
old senators are you think are the
younger politicians better? Is AOC better than

672
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:16,239
Chuck Schumer? Is? You know? I just don't think that that younger

673
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:21,480
people have better opinions are going to
do even a better job. I think

674
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,639
that that's just wishful thinking in a
way. Oh any who, let's talk

675
00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:30,440
about movies. I actually did see
a few. The first one I blame

676
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:34,000
my wife for really was really mad
at her when I was watching it.

677
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,239
It's called The Whale. Have you
seen it? Brendan Frasier won the Academy

678
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,559
Award. I know what it's about. I know all of what it's about,

679
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:45,920
and I had zero desire to see
it. Me too, So I

680
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:51,039
did. I was so angry.
It is so depressing, and it was

681
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,239
really, you know, not something
I would recommend for anyone wants to be

682
00:48:55,239 --> 00:49:00,760
happy. Finally finished watching I finally
finish finished watching The Bear, which I

683
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,360
liked. Finally got over that that
episode because the very next one was great.

684
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,960
Right. Also, a listener to
the podcast pointed out that without that

685
00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:15,480
horrific episode that you and I both
hated, the conclusion wouldn't have had the

686
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:22,960
same punch. Yeah with Wildiana,
Yeah, and also the moms showing up

687
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,400
and that scene what you didn't want
to go inside, I think, you

688
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,960
know, wouldn't have existed. I
think that was a really nice scene.

689
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,639
I kind of felt a little cheap
at the ending for him to say something.

690
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,239
These are spoilers to say something and
his girlfriend over here is it and

691
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,719
everything. Sometimes that show has a
lot of It creates this tension that is

692
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,760
uncomfortable, but I think in the
end it's worthwhile. I just again,

693
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:50,280
I love that it's a show about
people were working super hard and getting great

694
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,599
at something and trying to succeed.
I just love that angle. It's rare,

695
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:55,480
you see that. That's what I
loved about the first season. This

696
00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:00,719
last thing was very proud of itself
in a way that annoyed me, but

697
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,199
I still would recommend it. Still
worth it. Right. Finally finished watching

698
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:12,039
Justified the reboot, and I wrote
a review for us which was very negative,

699
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:14,920
and I stand by that, and
I just this is spoiler so if

700
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,079
you haven't seen it, you know, I don't know, sorry, but

701
00:50:19,079 --> 00:50:22,039
that in that review I wrote,
I wrote, if they had just taken

702
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:25,559
have you seen the show? Nope. So there's a character named Boyd Crowder.

703
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:29,960
He was amazing, and I said
that the show would have been better

704
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,960
if they just had let him,
you know, escape from jail, or

705
00:50:34,039 --> 00:50:36,960
just had a camera on him talking
in the jail. It would have been

706
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,599
more exciting, immeasurably more exciting than
the show. And what did they do?

707
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:43,880
And like the last five minutes of
the show, he escapes from jail,

708
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,280
he makes like a surprise appearance and
escapes, and that should have been

709
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,719
the first scene in Justified, and
then the show should have been those two

710
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,119
characters. It would have been amazing. Because it was terrible, all right,

711
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,719
that's it, Unjustified. I saw
the flash, which is a superhero

712
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,960
move, which I want to say
I did not. I don't enjoy superhero

713
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,679
movies anymore. I just I find
them so stupid and boring. But this

714
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,599
was actually I thought it was pretty
funny. I know the guy and it's

715
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:12,920
like nuts. I forget his name, Miller, I think is his last

716
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,599
name. It was funny. It
was pretty funny and well done. Okay,

717
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:20,079
one more. It's a Heart of
Stone, which is with Galgad.

718
00:51:21,639 --> 00:51:24,039
I think our word maybe our maybe
our worst actress. Yeah, now listen,

719
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:27,639
she's Israeli, so I like that
about her. She is good,

720
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:31,559
isn't it. It looks like you
know, but coin waiting for a galgha

721
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:38,679
dot and I she's very pretty and
all that, but she has the range

722
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,599
of a cucumber, like she cannot
act right. And this movie it's like

723
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:51,119
a mission impossible kind of movie in
another movie where women are just beating the

724
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:57,039
crap out of giant men, constantly
realistic. No, I don't. I'm

725
00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:00,079
always like the physics of what I'm
seeing do not work. This is not

726
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,400
right anyway. I thought it was, you know, a middling movie.

727
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:07,079
Okay, thank you. Those are
the things I've seen. Did you see

728
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:12,280
anything well? No, I was
so busy with debate stuff and work.

729
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,400
And I went up to New York
this weekend this past weekend to do some

730
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:22,800
TV posting for the big weekend show. And I went with a friend and

731
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,880
we did all sorts of stuff in
New York. We were kind of like

732
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:34,639
tourists. Guy Benson recommended, so
strongly recommended that my friend and I go

733
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,000
see MJ the musical about Michael Jackson. And he said that if we didn't

734
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:45,360
like it, he would venmo the
cost of the tickets. And I don't

735
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,760
think I'm a musical person, is
mostly what I'm going to say there.

736
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,880
It was like fine, but we
also had to leave early, so maybe

737
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:59,000
that maybe maybe that affected how well
we were able to appreciate it. Also,

738
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,239
we were doing the Sunday matinee,
and I think everyone was the understudy

739
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,000
in effect. Maybe the fact that
he was a pedophile also is kind of

740
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:13,480
off putting. I don't even it
doesn't get into that, so I didn't

741
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,840
even think about that. I do
like Michael Jackson music, and I don't

742
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,519
even know. I don't even know
enough about that story to agree with you

743
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:22,440
or pushback with you. I'm sorry, So I don't even want to talk

744
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:29,159
about it, if that's okay.
We went to the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

745
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,599
Oh, that's awesome. Wait is
that right? Did you go to

746
00:53:32,639 --> 00:53:37,320
the MAT or the MoMA? Sorry, we went to Museum of Modern Art.

747
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,920
I'm like, wait, that wasn't
the met I love, mama,

748
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:46,159
love it. It was great and
I saw some really great things photographs.

749
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:52,000
It's just mind blowing how many like
famous pieces that people know, you know,

750
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:53,920
just iconic works of art or in
there. And I like modern art

751
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,280
better than a classical art. Oh, I do not so I don't find

752
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,280
modern art to be very beautiful.
Bothers me because I think that's like one

753
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,320
of the primary functions of art.
But there were some beautiful things in there,

754
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,400
and the photography in particular, I
really liked. But I don't like

755
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,039
the it seems angry and dehumanizing what
some of the you know, like some

756
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:17,559
of the art. So I did
go by the way, my friend took

757
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:22,599
me to Keyne's Steakhouse. Have you
ever been there? No been around since

758
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:29,960
like eighteen I'm not a steak steakhouse. We had a wonderful, wonderful time,

759
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,719
and then we also saw at bird
Land, which is a place I'd

760
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,639
always wanted to go, Vince Gerdano
and the Nighthawks and it was this eleven

761
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:45,400
piece band doing jazz from the twenties
and thirties, and it was so good.

762
00:54:45,559 --> 00:54:51,960
I highly highly recommend anyone who's in
New York on a Monday night.

763
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,880
They do two shows on Monday nights, one at five thirty and one at

764
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,440
eight or something like that at Birdland. Highly highly recommend. Great show.

765
00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:05,360
I've never I don't think I've ever
been in Birdland, which you know,

766
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,119
and I'm a jazz fan, so
that's weird. But maybe I couldn't afford

767
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:10,159
it when I lived in New York. It's not it's not exactly cheap.

768
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,760
You know. Sometimes I have all
these movies I bring up and I'm like,

769
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,320
you're my boss, right, You're
the editor in chief of the Federals.

770
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,199
I'm like, this seems like I'm
watching a lot of movies. I'm

771
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,079
not worrying, but you know that's
not true. I'm I'm always writing.

772
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:28,280
But I'm like, should I say
that I saw five most six movies this

773
00:55:28,639 --> 00:55:31,119
week? Well? I mean,
I'm I'm assuming this is like at night

774
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,559
when you're not leaving your house and
you're just hanging out. Yeah, yeah,

775
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:37,519
I just I just watched movies at
night. Okay, all right,

776
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:42,719
Well, I wonder what's gonna I
wonder what's gonna happen this week? As

777
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,840
far as indictments or new muck shots. Have you noticed, like I think

778
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,320
the last four or five weeks,
every time we speak, it's some new

779
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,559
uh, you know, indictment against
Trump or some legal something legal against you

780
00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:57,079
know, against him. Oh,
and I wanted to talk about the Biden

781
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,639
impeachment stuff. You know what,
I could say that for next week,

782
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,840
I a lot to say on that. Yeah, and until then everyone should

783
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:14,679
be lovers of freedom and anxious for
the fray h