Another win for Kansas, this one coming an enemy territory and another podcast host
rotation change. I keep thinking we're gonna have all three of us and still
a two man show, but the not the one that you've been used to
here in the last few few episodes. Landon, you are you have returned?
You have returned from illness? How are you? That's the guy who
might have herpes? To you, sir, that's right, that's your new
name. Whenever I'm Ryan Landrus, I have herpes. That's the way it's
going to be the rest of the of the introductions, right this show at
least, well, we'll give it one. But yes, I'm back,
and I am feeling quite a lot better. Thank you. Happy to be
so. You are sick for like a week and a half, right,
Like everybody in Kansas has some sort of respiratory ailment. Right now, I
feel like and you did not evade it. No, yeah, quite the
opposite. Yeah, it was a solid like I'm still not even one hundred
percent over and I can still feel it in the back of my throat a
little bit. It's just like significantly better. Yeah, basically had like canker
stores in the back of my throat, and there was like two viable options.
One was like a hand foot in mouth type thing and one was herpes.
So I think it's the first one, but it could technically be the
second one. Yeah, well, I mean, and that's then that's that's
your business, sir. We joked about how you went on a couple of
dates and that's what you came back with. It would be a very you
bad luck. It would be a very you thing to happen, right,
to have that take place. It's just to you finally get to get to
have a couple of illustrious dates just in time to bring herpes back. Yeah,
that would that would be right up my alley. And hey, sir,
at least you caught something, unlike Kadarius Tony who every time they threw
him the vaull. Today there it goes. And that was also Trey Galloway
shooting a game tying would have been game tying three off the rim, which
I can't believe missed. I know that looks so in, It felt so
in. That just felt like a ball that was never going to miss,
and then it did. And so Kansas gets a break. This is inside
the paint on rock chalk Blog with This is not a football podcast. It
is a basketball one, though, and we're here to talk all about well
just about everything everything else, everything k basketball and their big win over Indiana.
I am Ryan Landrath, and I'm the guy that might have herpies.
No Nick today, he's dealing with some family stuff. We hope to have
him back, probably one more episode before Christmas. I got to think at
some point we get we get some sort of post Yale show in before the
holidays, and whenever that happens, then maybe we'll have our full rotation back.
But hey, until then, you get the two of us. The
holidays are near, let's talk about a big road win for your Kansas basketball
Jayhawks number two Kansas seventy five, Indiana seventy one. So, Lanta,
you haven't been on the show for a couple of episodes. They didn't look
particularly impressive in either of the games you missed. I think you missed MKC
and Missouri. And then they end up beating Indiana, but albeit not by
the most comfortable of margins either. Your thoughts not only on this game,
but also on all of the other kind of storylines that have come out of
the last couple of weeks that you missed. Yeah, it's not been a
very explicitly impressive stretch for the Hawks, that's for sure. I think on
one of the last two shows, Ryan, you were talking about how it
feels like we're not learning a ton necessarily about Kansas. I think we are
learning. Maybe we're not learning I think a ton about maybe the team's ceiling
and floor necessarily. But I do think we're learning that as we've talked about
a lot on the show this season, that the two guard spot is just
who knows what that is right now? Like who do you trust? Why
are guys playing, wire guys not playing? It seems like Nick Timberlake is
not gonna work out. It seems like el Marco Jackson is definitively gonna be
your first option at that spot, and I think that should be the case.
Yeah, there's some weird things, definitely some weird things going on with
this team. I still think it's a very good basketball team. I don't
think the way UMKC or Mazoo went or excuse me, Kansas City, not
UMKC, Kansas City. I think the way those games went is not really
indicative of Kansas's like overall quality necessarily, But then again, I mean,
how many close games can you have before that's just kind of who you are.
I don't know, I think I think it's impossible to really take too
much away from the last stretch until we'll get to conference play. I think
that's when you'll really learn about who this team is. But yeah, it's
it's been, it's been weird. I think against teams like UMKC Eastern Illinois,
they just kind of can't be made to care very much. I think
it's gonna be I think it's really tough for that team to actually get up
for games like that. They blew up Manhattan and NC Central I think woke
up the next day and decided they could not care less about teams that don't
have a number or are from a major conference, which is fair. It's
fair. Not easy to do that, yeah, especially when you know you're
gonna win or almost certainly are going to win games like that. Obviously,
Indiana, that's a really tough environment. A pretty solid team, good if
not great. You know, they're not elite, but they're still very solid,
very competent basketball team in a very tough place to play. So that
being close, not to worry. Very resilient effort, even if there were
some concerns in there for sure. Well, and we looked at the schedule
after they got out of Maui and we thought this team's about to go on
a winning streak. At that point. We looked at their next ten games
and we thought that while they be favored in all of them, nine to
one may have been considered the most likely, but you and I both thought
there was a good chance they were gonna go ten. And oh, they've
cleared the first half of that ten game stretch. Eastern Illinois, Yukon,
Kansas City, Missouri, and at Indiana three absolute layups in there, but
also Yukon at home was their toughest game, and at Indiana being the road
game. Now we set our sites on the next five, which are Yale
at home and which test date at the Sprint cent are very unlikely to see
a loss there. TCU at home, they should win that. At Central
Florida, a team that is almost exactly ranked via kin Palm, where this
Indiana team they just beat is, but it won't have the same atmosphere,
to say the least. And then Oklahoma at home, who's currently ranked eleven
and is undefeated. But also, I don't know if the next time Oklahoma
at home scares you will be the first. They're going to continue to win
way more often than they're not. And at this point, would if you
were betting on five and oh in those five games or any other outcome Yale
which tuest eight TCU at UCF Oklahoma, are you betting on five and oh
oh, I'd have to Yeah, I don't know how you would bet against
that. I mean, Oklahoma's giving Kansas a scare now and again in Allen,
but they haven't come in with a win ever. So yeah, it's
got to be the five and oh to bet on. And if they do
that, their next two games after that would be at Oklahoma State and at
West Virginia, who are the two worst teams in the Big Twelve. So
let's just go ahead and really stretch it out. And this may be predicting
a lot. This is predicting three road wins and four other homer neutral site
wins, so that may be a little ambitious, but let's just say they
win their next seven games, which again are Yale which TOUS eight TCU at
UCF Oklahoma at Oklahoma State now West Virginia. Then that gets you to seventeen
and one with a five and oho conference record, and I'm not sure at
that point. I don't think you're ever playing from behind in the Big twelve
race, and seventeen and one you have been favored in every game you've played
this year. Yeah, there's gonna be some eight point wins in there,
But like the they win, right, that's kind of all that matters,
at least in my book. Like, that's they win. I don't care
how good Indiana was. I don't care how how much they should have won
that game. By winning that game. And Jay Wright, who has two
rings in which he beat Kansas twice in order to get each, Jay Wright
said after the game on CBS the same thing. I don't care how many
points they win by. That's championship DNA that Kansas has by winning a game
like this. You kind of agree with that little cliche, but I think
it's truthful. No, I think it is. I think it's very impressive
to go into very rowdy environments and come from behind and win. As we'll
talk about let's get into it a little bit. Kansas trailed for the first
thirty five minutes of the game, falling behind by eight halftime and down by
as many as thirteen early in the second half. Every time it seemed like
they were making a push, the Hoosiers, or more specifically Trey Galloway,
who had twenty eight of his own answer, they would extinguish the momentum Kansas
had. But over the last twelve minutes it was a thirty one to seventeen
game ending run that saw Kansas take a lead with five minutes left and pull
away in the final couple minutes. Made some big free throws, some big
buckets at the end. But yeah, I think all that they have shown
a very good ability to close this season so far, and that's been very
important. They finished games very well, even games where maybe they shouldn't have
had to finish well, you know, Eastern Illinois and UMKC. They have
and they've had a lot of resilience and they have finished very strong in putting
people away, you know, except for Marquette, but that was a different
kind of different circumstance there. But I do think that is championship DNA.
Only Kentucky out of their ten wins, only Kentucky was really in doubt in
the final two minutes, like I know this game, you needed a couple
of free throws. But at no point after they took the lead for the
first time did I think Kansas wasn't gonna win that game. And it's been
like that for every game they've played, with the exception of Kentucky. That
one, you did need a a final minute couple that you needed a couple
of game tying threes to rim out. And I understand that that Galloway had
a game tying three with thirty seconds rim out here, so maybe that's not
totally fair, but it definitely didn't feel like they were gonna lose this game
after they took the lead. They scored twenty five points over the final like
like nine minutes in this game or something like that, And at least my
opinion on watching it, the offense, it looked so hard to get the
offense to get going. You mentioned every time they look like that they were
starting to put something together, they'd miss a couple of easy shots and Indiana
would make a runout. Indiana was playing fast, especially early in this game,
and I think they got tired as the game went along, but then
all of a sudden. It was like offense just happened. All of a
sudden, everything was going in. Threes were going in. Hunter Dickinson's hook
shot that had been cold for thirty minutes suddenly started finding all that and the
free throws, with the exception of the one front end that mccullor missed,
that was really good as well. Overall great win, also Kansas's first win
ever at Assembly Hall. They haven't played there in thirty years, but they
had been zero to three with two losses in the seventies and one of the
nineties. Very very few places, uh, in a school as illustrious,
says Kansas. Can they say that they've played in a building at least three
times and never have won. Well, now they can't say that about Assembly
Hall because they wound up winning it. How good was that atmosphere though?
What a what a weird arena. It's real narrow, like it looks like
a concert hall in there, where all the seats are like right on top
of each other. It looked like, yeah and very tall, Yeah,
very tall and not very wide. Yeah. I've always wanted to go to
Assembly Hall. Maybe one day I'll make it out there. Yeah, it's
a it's a weird place. It's a it's a neat looking place, and
they obviously, I mean it's Indiana, so they love their hoops for sure.
Yeah, they definitely kept it loud. And I know that Kansas is
going to have a home and home with North Carolina starting next year, which
is awesome. But I want to know what we need to do to get
them in Indiana to renew this series the next six years Missouri style, because
that was so fun. Indiana fans loved coming to Allen last year. The
Assembly Hall atmosphere is great, Like these are the matchups that need to happen.
Whenever you watch teams like Duke never schedule games like this, it just
really makes you wonder why. Like I know that teams want to rack up
the wins, but these sort of games, these sort of atmospheres. That
place was packed. Kudos to the Indiana fans whose students are on winter break
for still packing that place. The student section was full. It's what you
come to expect at fog Allen whenever they play a Marquee blockbuster game like this
right around the holidays are right around school, getting out awesome atmosphere to watch
a game, and then yeah, it's got to be one of the two
three coolest arenas to watch at anywhere. I want to talk about KU fans,
but let's go ahead and talk about these first two players, because they
balled out, and then I want to talk about how the reaction after they
did one mistake like miss a shot kind of leads me into my main point.
So go ahead, tell me about Kevin McCorry. Let's start with the
two heroes of the night. Yeah, mccullor. He led the Jayhawks twenty
one points. He did miss a lot of shots three of eight from the
field, two to five from three, though he did a lot of his
damage, most of his damage at the free throw line, where he was
thirteen of sixteen, so he's still creating, still making things happen offensively for
Kansas. He added six rebounds, forces and three steals in thirty eight minutes.
He had to go ahead three and all of his clutch free throws down
the stretch. So, as usual, even though the field goal percentage was
not great, McCuller was still very very good, a very Jalen Wilson kind
of outing for McCuller. I'd say, great analogy. Yeah, you said
three for eight. He was three for eleven. Actually missed three more shots,
missed eight, missed eight shots. Correct, there you go, Yeah,
three for eleven from the floor and then just one for six on two.
So he struggled. He was not He was not what he normally is.
The Jalen Wilson bowling ball offense kind of comparison is really good. But
McCuller one way, he's improved in each of his last four seasons seventy seventy
three, seventy six, now eighty one. From the free throw line.
He's become increasingly reliable, and he was great down the stretch in this game.
Made couple got the role of the bounce in his favor on the two
that wound up putting the dagger in Indiana's coffin and then switch the second one.
But McCully this year through eleven games, nineteen point seven rebounds, five
assists, shooting fifty percent from the floor and thirty eight percent from three.
That is an All America. He's one of the ten best players in college
basketball. Really kind of gives you the ick to think of where Kansas would
be had he not taken his name out of the draft. But yes,
all in all, spectacular game from him. And this is the sort of
Jalen Wilson performance where you look at the stats and the shooting percentage isn't great,
and you could point out a couple of moments where he made you scratch
your head. But there's a reason why Jalen Wilson, all the teams he
was on, they won a lot of games. Same thing with Kevin McCorry.
There's a reason why every team he's on manages to win a lot of
games. Okay, Dickinson, go ahead, I'll go ahead and read those
threats and give you the analysis here seventeen and fourteen for Hunter Dickinson, most
of his damage came in the second half. He was eight for seventeen from
the floor, which is about as poorly as you will ever see him shoot
the ball. But in the final ten minutes he was four for four from
the floor to shake off a bad start that featured a lot of miss bunnies.
He also said afterwards that he could save a baby in Bloomington and still
get booed, which was pretty funny. Also said Kevin mccullor was his words,
not mine quote well endowed in his postgame press conference, Kevin mccullar gives
no damns, and I think that is just awesome. I kind of tie
to the next point. You can analyze the basketball, I'll analyze the behavior.
The big forearm in front of the crotch against Kentucky, then the Indiana
He's like pumping up the crowd, waving to everybody in the middle of a
game. This is the sort of stuff that Bill self wouldn't allow if he
wasn't so damn good. That's how he gets away with it. He backs
it up. Why and he said it best. Dickens sads the game,
said, there is nothing I can do that will make them like me,
So why be a nice guy? Yeah? Why? Basketball is more fun
with a villain and seeing him get under everybody's skin. You know, it
contributes on the status he does. Well. He's awesome. Love seeing the
antics. He's my favorite. Yeah, I mean, and he is very
good. He was he was not elite for a good portion of this game.
But then yeah, he was extremely clutched down the stretch. I mean,
it's just wild that like seventeen and fourteen is like, yeah, he
was alright, he was pretty good on the floor. He wasn't two for
twelve, right, Yeah, I mean just like just absurd, just absurd
how high his production is that that this stat line feels a little bit sleepy
from him. Obviously the end was not He did have some massive buckets at
the end, some big rebounds. Yeah, I mean, he remains very,
very good. He doesn't do a lot of things wrong. I do
think his defense could use some work. He's a little slow on defense.
He's at a position a little bit, but it's not so bad that it's
it's given the other team free buckets all the time. But he's at a
position a little bit. But uh, that's a minor nitpick in what is
otherwise a dominant player and a guy like I mean, when was the last
time that we've ever seen a guy just like fifteen and fifteen is borderline and
expectation going into a night like this doesn't happen. No, I can't remember
one. Seriously, maybe Udoka at the very end, but not not right
out of his shoot. So Hunter Dickinson is averaging nineteen point two points per
game. That is third among any player that's labeled a fresh a forward or
a center that plays for a power five team. So third among big guys
in Power five leagues Power six. Really in scoring, he's the nation's leading
rebounder. That's every player in D one basketball, twelve point seven rebounds a
game. No one has more than Hunter Dickinson, shooting sixty two percent from
the floor, north of seventy percent at the line, throw out a couple
of assists per game. Oh and by the way, the stat that I
always hammer. Let's see how much you've been listening to the last shows.
What is my favorite Hunter Dickinson attribute? I talk about it every game.
One of the best parts of his game is how he doesn't what he doesn't
foul. I don't think correct, correct, He doesn't foul thirty two minutes
a game last year, less than two fouls a game, thirty two minutes
a game this year, one point five fouls per game. You can keep
him on the floor for that much. Thirty eight minutes thirty five last time,
thirty eight against Yukon. Don't take that for granted. The reason that
you don't remember a guy having fifteen and fifteen has just penciled and every night
is because guys can't stay on the floor, especially big guys, without fouling.
Enough to get that sort of minutes needed to get that production. Hunter
Dickinson avoids foul trouble and it's his best attribute. But according to a couple
of KU fans and the mentions, he's soft. Somebody helped me with Okay,
so yesterday. KU fans are great. They're passionate, they're knowledged,
they are they love their team, and that's sports are all about. But
yesterday was one of the worst Twitter days I've ever seen from KU fans.
As the Jayhawks are trailing by a couple of possessions on the road in a
brutal environment. The Twitter mentions and the Twitter timeline, you would think we're
watching the Oak Hill Christian College team that lost to North Dakota State by one
hundred the other day. Hunter Dickinson is soft, Dwan Harris sucks. This
offense is awful to watch. First round loss, second round loss. Bill
self is stubborn. Well, you know what, I guess. I guess
I'll give them that one. There was a lot of fake news on the
timeline, but I will give them that. Coach Bill South the stubborn ass.
But oh my gosh, people, what the hell do you want?
The team's ten to one. They are the nation's best field goal percentage team.
No teams out there have a better field goal percentage than Kansas. And
you complain about how the offense is hard to watch. The defense hasn't given
up more than seventy five points more than twice this year, right, Marquette
and Kentucky, and they won the Kentucky game. No, they gave up
seventy three to Marquette. They've given up more than seventy five once. And
you talk about that defense not being able to guard anybody. Dwan Harris wins
a national championship and it's, oh, he sucks, he doesn't have what
it takes. Hunter Dickinson averages twenty one and twelve or whatever it is.
He sucks, he's soft. What do you want? What do you want
from these guys? They're eighteen to twenty two year old that go out there
and win eighty five percent of their games. How can you complain about this?
And everyone I figured out what they want. They want perfection, that's
right, Yeah, well darn klose they're ten and one almost. No,
they want little them to never do anything wrong ever. They want them to
play perfect basketball, perfectly until perfection happens. Well, on the point that
you mentioned, Hunter Dickinson didn't have the best defensive game. Does he suck
on defense? No, because the guy he's guarding is trying every minut as
hard as he has to put the ball in the basket. Kael where averages
sixteen to ten. He's seven feet tall. He's pretty good. You could
throw a lot of guys at him and he's going to get some points and
rebounds. I just don't understand. I had people turn that I posted the
Hunter Dickinson doesn't foul and that's a great part of his game, and people
were replying saying, I wish he would because that's because he's soft. He
doesn't get physical enough on defense. Like, okay, fine that somebody said
I'd like him to foul a couple more times a game. I trade that,
Okay. Then guess what happens next when Hunter Dickinson listens to at Joe
John Doe on Twitter and goes out and puts his hands on people and gets
two fouls in the first and then Kansas falls behind because he's on the bench
and can't play. There you go, yes, you can't have it all.
It's just like Kau fans are great. They're great, and we're reaction
areya as hell right? They lose a couple games, we get on here,
and I mean, geez, this drop exists. Damn. I guess
the best about the best coach out there. But oh my gosh, it's
like you forget who you're watching. Every game is the same. Kansas comes
out kind of flat, they screw around a little bit, and then most
of the time when the final horn sounds, Bill self is high fiving his
assistance. That's what happens. I just don't know what else you want.
I don't know how many more titles they have to win, or how many
more road games they have to win, or what they have to do to
get you guys to just trust when they're down by six, hey, you
know what, they might they still probably will win. They do most times.
I don't get it. Help me, help me understand this, because
I see Cheese fans doing this too. They're just so used to winning that
it's it's almost like only winning by a few isn't good enough. Yeah,
that is what it feels like. It's a very weird thing. I think
it is a winning entitlement thing that happens I think in some more extreme examples.
Maybe I definitely don't think this is everybody, but I do think this
happens. Some people make this too much their identity. Nick and I have
talked about that a few times. But yeah, I mean it's really fun
and I think even good to care about sports and things like this. I
mean, I'm the guy that's done O kau basketball podcast for six years.
Like clearly, I'm totally down with that. But I do think there's some
people that get too invested and therefore their day is either made or ruined by
whether Hunter Dickinson plays good pick and roll defense or not, which is weird.
Yeah, it's definitely a strange kind of phenomenon. It's one of those
things that if you like time travel back to like sixteen forty, I think
some people would be deemed mentally ill because of how much they care or yell
about a basketball team. But I mean, I get it. It is
frustrating. I used to be like that, and then I decided not to
care quite that much anymore because it was bad for me at a certain point.
I wish most people would come to that realization. But that's okay.
We're all on different paths. It's all right, it's fun to care.
I'll definitely give you that, but yeah, it's a weird thing. I
agree with you, Ryan. I don't know how many times they have to
see Kansas be down, but then oh wait, oh, they want anyway
to believe that that might happen again, actually might happen yain the next time,
even when it's you know, it's happened a hundred times, there's no
reason to believe that it won't happen one hundred and first. It is very
strange. This was a response, and this is a response on Twitter.
I posted Hunter Dickinson is the best love how much he enjoys pissing off road
crowds. He does not give any dams and the response this is a response
that I received here. Dickinson is soft, not a rim protector, can't
finish around the rim, poor footwork in the post. Not a great pastor
re bounds come flat footed. Needs to be better. Dude, what what
what? Also, rock Chalk Blog gets criticized for not agreeing with Bill self
by people on Twitter a lot. Bill Self said, Hunter Dickinson is the
best passing big he's ever had, by the way, which I think is
like, just like observably true, can't finish strong around the rim? What
are we watching the same guy? Oh, he doesn't finish at the rim?
True, I don't think he finishes. Well, that's a different thing.
It You can take it or leave it, and I will take hundred
Diggins that footed rebounds are that's absurd. Who cares when he's bringing down sixteen
of the things a game? There you go and somebody else says, I
don't like it, just focus on the game. Well Andrew Wiggins did that.
And you know what people said about Andrew Wiggins. I wish he'd show
some emotion. He doesn't look like he cares out there. He's wearing a
Kansas jersey. He's supposed to be prideful. What do you want? You
have guys like Hunter Dickinson and Christian Brown who go out there that are clearly
so into it and so happy to wear that jersey that yeah, they a
little over the top, And oh that's that's not We don't want that.
We just want guys to focus and be classy. Well Andrew Wiggins didn't didn't
hurt a fly his entire time here, and he didn't care enough. I
just I've dealt with this every year when Kansas loses a couple of games and
I post on Twitter with eight games left and they're one game behind Oklahoma State,
Who yeah, let's trust that, And I say, I bet you.
Kansas still wins the Big Twelve, and I get one hundred responses of
of five alarm fire level panics saying Nope, absolutely not. We'll be lucky
to make the tournament, will be an eight seed. Like I really don't
know, Like like people on Twitter were saying this team shouldn't be ranked.
People were saying they're overrated for losing, But at the time, halfway through
a game, losing by eight on the road at India, I don't get
it. And I don't understand how that's a fun way to root for sports.
That it's a good way to have your heart combust whenever you're a the
all caps response you know who I'm talking about, Like, I don't understand
how that can be anybody's choice of fandom. And because just where it's like
you gotta just let go a little bit, Like you gotta just realize that
this is just college basketball, Like there's so much more going on in the
world that's so much more important than this. It's like, it's just for
fun. At the end of the day. This is just communal entertainment.
Not that there's no value, but you gotta just recognize it for what it
is. And when you do that, it'll be so much more fun because
every game is just fun for the sake that it's happening. That's the fun
is that we just get to enjoy this twice a week and it's great.
And if they win, yeah, that's even better. If they lose,
yeah, I might be a little bit annoyed that they've lost, depending on
how it happens, but like, you know what, even if they lost,
I got to sit and I have the privilege to watch Kansas basketball for
two hours every few days. And that's what's fun about it. Yep,
it's well said. Something else you have the privilege to watch her are the
refs, which I didn't win this particular case, because they are a rot
that's true. That's fair. By the way, you can type in all
caps and call the refs soft and overrated because they suck giant balls. They
are a stinky bag of rotting trash that's been sitting in a dumpster forever.
And you know what when the Barstool Indiana page says we got host and the
Barstool Kansas page says we got hosts, that's how you know. The refs
gave each other a high five in the locker room after the game because they
screwed. Nobody wins, nobody loses. No, I take that back,
nobody wins and everybody loses with these officials. God are they awful? Awful,
awful awful. Indiana got screwed on the biggest call of the game that
ball didn't go out of bounce and like they called it at a bounce there
where they were fighting for possession on the misfree throw. But boy, there
were too many fouls in this game. They were guessing so much. Hunter
Dickinson is getting bottled up inside because you surround him with guys who aren't very
good at shooting, and Indiana was just like, Hey, we're just gonna
let them, or let's let's live with al Margo Jackson shooting threes instead of
letting Hunter get two footers on on a one on one guy feels like the
smart strategy. But man, these big guys can't buy a call. That
was awful all the way through. Kevin mcculler's third foul was one of the
five worst calls I've ever seen in my life. And then they had a
back to back sequence where Dickinson they didn't allow a play on They said nope,
foul before Dickinson shot that. And then on the other end it may
have been Mackenzie and Baco who like was fouled and then took three whole steps
after that before laying it in and the rest like and one. I can't
figure anything they do or call out, but I will give them this.
The charges have been better. We haven't seen as many of those. That's
true. Actually I haven't really noticed that, which means three of them are
gonna happen against Yale. Yeah, yeah, no, they're just they're just
asking it up within other ways. Don't worry. Okay, Well, let's
let's talk about other things that made us screen Bloody Murder, Because Landon,
had you been on the last podcast, I feel like you would have known
this was gonna happen or help us predict it, because we all knew this
was gonna happen. With mister Trey Galloway, who hails from Culver, Indiana,
and looks out every bit like it, because that man averaging eight points
the game, went out there and put in twenty eight and after making three
three, he's in the first ten games. What else is there to do
then to make two of them in this game? But but, but,
but but I feel like I'm hyper on today's show, the very last one
for the high could he make it? The widest guy in Indiana? I
can't believe it was miss yeah, but he did a career high twenty eight
points. He entered three for twenty two from three and then went two for
three. Indiana was like five for nine at one point, and it was
just maniacally laughing in my house trying to imagine how that happened. Whenever.
That was an all time kind of white guy outing yeah, twenty eight,
twenty eight points. But he missed the big one. He missed the one
that mattered most. All Right, we are falling behind on time here,
so let's start to go faster. Here. Go ahead and tell me about
kJ Adams, who was once again very good. Fourteen points, four events,
three assists for kJ six for twelve from the floor in thirty six minutes.
He was a huge reason why they didn't get blown out in the first
half and then some I don't know if there's too much really to analyze here
other than like his strength and athleticism just continues to be an invaluable tool for
Kansas. He's been fantastic and he's taken a leap forward even from last year
in a lot of ways. I think, yeah, and it's real valuable
because Bill self was watching Hunter Dickinson just get bottled up in the post and
it feels like we start the game doing that and then sell us like,
Okay, so you want to put two guys on him, I'm just going
to drag him out by the perimeter and it's going to free up wide open
lanes for kJ. You can't do that the other way, which would be
ideal, right if you had a kJ type player who could shoot mid range
stuff, because then Hunter couldn't be left one on one in the paint.
But he's doing the next best thing, and kj's pretty darn good at finishing
at the rim himself, So yes, this was excellent kJ. I think
we were right at the beginning of the year about them having a big three.
They probably have a big four, but for now kJ is is their
third best player. I think at this point he's been great. I agree.
Let's talk about three point shooting, because they were six for eighteen in
this game shooting threes. It felt worse than that. They made some big
ones down the stretch. It feels like this team's not very good shooting threes.
That seems to be the twinter sentiment. And they've seen from the eye
test pretty okay this year. They had two good games to start, but
on the season, Kansas is thirty eight percent three point mark, is top
fifty in the country. Does it feel like it. It does not feel
like it. They are percentage wise okay, and they've definitely made some clutch
ones. They've made some big shots, but they are outside the top two
fifty and threes made per game, which is less than seven and they are
bottom twenty five nationally and three pointers attempted per game. Now they are number
one. Are they were? It's gone down a little bit. Their top
five in field goal percentage and two point percentage. So they're getting a lot
of twos. It's Bill Self's stream, right, but they're not taking a
lot of threes, but they're making a decent percentage of the ones. They're
shooting, so that begs the question forty seventh in percentage, three hundred and
thirtieth in attempts, should they take more? Uh? Yeah, I think
so. I think they definitely should take more. A reason why they might
not, though, is Nick Timberlay. Oh God, you missed two more
missed a free throw in six really unfortunate minutes of basketball. I was higher
on timberlake potential than you were coming into the season, Ryan, Yeah,
and I jumped off it a lot faster than you did, I think.
But I think he's really bad and I don't think he should get a lot
more chances. I think he's heading straight for averaging about three minutes a night
in conference play. You know what interests me is it's not just Timberlake,
who I think is the biggest disappointment of any of these guys. But Kansas
has been great at landing high major players in a transfer portal. Dickinson with
the mccullor Remy Martin great acquisitions, but they've been really bad at evaluating which
talent on mid majors to bring in. Because Tyan Grant Foster was a JUCO
transfer and they were high on that that didn't work. Guys like Joe Yesafu
that was considered to be a big piece for them coming from Drake and he
never materialized. And Nick Timberlake is one that came from and he looked like
a player. I still do have a little more confidence than you, because,
like Geez, you watch his highlight tape of what he did at college
and he's a he's a good player in these clips. I don't get it.
I kind of think that eventually he may become something for you. But
but he's They've been kind of disappointing bringing in players from mid major teams and
Timberlake's just been awful. Like he's been awful this year. This is a
guy that shot forty pc from three in back to back seasons that has come
to Kansas and since going three for five the first game is four for twenty
one. Since in the last ten games he's shooting twenty six percent on threes.
Yeah, he's so you think this is that this ship has sailed.
He's not gonna play very much in conference play. I doubt it. I'd
be surprised. I just don't know how you can. I mean, they've
Bill self is barely playing him against like mid majors and stuff offous. The
Indiana's a lot better than that, But like Johnny Furfey and Almarco Jackson have
been actively getting more minutes in the rotation, and even r McDowell had more
minutes and more run in this game. Yeah, but it takes forever for
self to stop letting Timberlake run around like an idiot out there before he tries
McDowell. I don't understand why McDowell's not coming off the bench way sooner than
he is, just kind of going through those guys. El Marco Jackson twenty
five minutes, scored five points on six shots. He hit a big three,
played pretty good defense, but just not contributing much on offense at this
point. Only seven minutes for Johnny Furfey, who didn't do much, and
then there was Jamary McDowell who didn't get run until the other guys had already
gotten multiple attempts. But McDowell was really good. He made a huge three
during their main run in the second half to finish with three points in eight
minutes, had a really nice rebound that secured a possession in which they ultimately
went ahead. Like McDowell is better than Timberlake. It's inarguable the only thing
I can think of is self thinks that Timberlake is the better long term piece
for this team's success. But man, I don't know how much. I
don't know how much you can keep doing this. McDowell's got to play more.
He's got to play earlier too. Yeah, I think he does.
It's been weird because I understand like McDowell hasn't been doing a lot of flashy
stuff, which is fair, but he's also been just consistently pretty solid.
And I'm not sure why Bill self has just kind of stopped giving him run
early in games like at all, because he's a very selfie player. Yeah,
you think Bill self would like kind of that nose of the grindstone,
just do the little things well. And to be fair, he was kind
of lost on a few defensive possessions like that is a thing that's noticeable.
You'd still think you'd give him a shot. And I don't know why he's
been getting less of one. He got more of one than he had the
last couple of games in Indiana, and he made the most of it.
Again, he played pretty well, So I don't know exactly what's going on
there well, and then Parker Brown made a basket in two minutes. He
doesn't play much. That's Hunter Dickinson's fault. Parker has been perfectly fine this
year. He just isn't going to play very much considering what he's dealing with.
And anyone on Twitter who's telling me that part should play more and Dickinson
should play less, stop please. I can't. I can't. I seriously
will well off myself. I can't. I can't do it. The only
guy we haven't talked about is the one Harris, who is probably Kaye's most
polarizing player. Twelve points, five assists, forty minutes played, did not
sit on the bench at any point. He was five for nine from the
floor, including a huge three and go ahead floater in the final five minutes.
Kansas wins yet another game. I don't have the record. I know
it's a lot and one. Whenever he scores ten points or more, there
was stuff you could critique. There's also stuff that I'm sure that you're very
grateful that he's Kansas's point guard. But overall, this was the first time
since the Kentucky game that to one Harris scored more than eight points. And
they needed just about all of them to escape Bloomington with a win. Yeah,
he was, he was still pretty good. It's been kind of a
weird year for Harris. Does feel like he is. It felt like at
times maybe you could argue he was regressing, But then again, I think
his his passing and his defense has still been really good. Just a strange
year, but a very good game here for Harris. I think I do
think you're going to need Dwan Harris to score tena Knight if you really want
to get the most out of this Kansas team. He's got to score ten
and Knight. Well, I mean, he's been worse than he was last
year. That's inarguable. He hasn't been as good. But is it fair
to say he's regressed or is that you're saying. If you're saying he's been
worse than he was last year, that I think is inherently some level of
regression. But I also wonder if it's just kind of getting the feel of
this team. It's different, right, last year's team was throw the ball
to Jalen and Grady and get out of their way. This year's team isn't
that simple. You have Hunter and he has great chemistry with Hunter Dickinson.
Those two do ridiculous hookup for some ridiculous passes, but everybody else, like
you watch him past the guys like Jackson and and he just kind of like
it's kind of like Patrick Mahomes throwing his receivers a little bit where whenever a
miscommunication happens. A great example is when Dewan Harris was dinged with a turnover
for throwing the ball to al Marco who moved out of the way because he
thought that it was tipped. And it's like it was one of those moments
where Harris is looking at him like what are you doing? Like, no,
you gotta do this. I have a hard time blaming Harris for stuff
like that when he's playing with guys that just aren't used to this sort of
system. And I think that his stats have taken a direct hit from basically
anybody not named Kevin or Hunter that aren't converting a lot of the assists that
he's shooting. His should have higher assist numbers, and he's not being set
up by these guys for as many open looks as he should be. They
finally found him a few times as the game went on, but still overall,
I don't know. With me, Harris feels like a guy who's kind
of a product of the guys around him, other than two of them not
being as good as we thought they'd be. I think that's like a fair
argument, but I mean, Harris, I feel like has been arguably even
more tentative to shoot at times, and he's also been worse shooting inside than
he's ever been, which is a weird thing to happen in your like fourth
year in college. That's also fair, like he has he's not shooting quite
as much like everybody. Everybody talks about how the reason that he's such a
high percentage three point shooters because he doesn't take very many of them, and
I think that they're both right and wrong. He only takes open ones.
I can't remember the last contested three pointer I saw to one Harris take,
but he undoubtedly needs to take more semi contested once because he's shooting forty six
percent this year. He's taken over one hundred and eighty three pointers in his
career, and he's made forty percent of them. Like he's he's been.
He's he's too good of a shooter to not shoot as much to not shoot
more Kansas in this game forty three percent from the floor, thirty three percent
from three, seventy one percent at the line. They were minus two on
the glass, which is kind of surprising when you have Dickinson going for fourteen
and you're still a loser on the gold Well, that tells you just how
screwed they would be without soft ass Hunter Dickinson. Am I right, Yeah,
I think you're gonna need that guy, I have. I Hunter Dickinson
and soft. I don't understand how any of that could go together. Yeah,
it doesn't seem terribly soft. There's also a distinction that we must have
between uh is a little out of position sometimes on defense and soft. Those
are two entirely different things. Yeah, I don't think. And it also
is weird that the same people that are criticizing Hunter Dickinson for talking trash and
being completely unintimidated by road environments are the same ones that call him soft on
the court. I don't get how that can be the case either. Yeah,
that doesn't make the most sense to me. That does not seem like
a soft trait whatsoever. But yeah, they just like to say that because
that's what Bill self says. So that's just what everyone says, but they
don't know what they're talking about. Frankly, and you know what, Bill
self has never called Hunter Digginson, not once, saw soft, not once,
and he never will because Hunter Dickinson is not soft. But we're kind
of soft at least your recovery. Definitely, Bill would. I would run
the other direction. I wouldn't be I wouldn't get I wouldn't be on the
court long enough to be called soft. I would just melt. Yeah,
I think that's about what would happen. I would run half of one suicide
and leave. So Nick thinks that the five of us, which are the
three of us plus Josh and Daniel, who are our former co hosts.
He thinks that the five of us in forty minutes would score five points against
Kansas. No, we would not. We would score zero though. Yeah,
that's much more likely. I'm willing to say we wouldn't hit the rim.
Really, I don't know how we're getting a shot off. It depends
on how intense defense they're playing. North Dakota State, who's like the two
hundred best team in D one basketball, played a college a college basketball team
I don't care that they look terrible, and I don't care that they look
like they're in middle school. A college team and held them to fourteen.
And you think any of us are scoring anything on Kansas, Come on,
Nick, if they decide to play real defense against us, we are not
scoring anything. I don't think we're getting a shot off. I really don't.
I think everything's blocked. I don't think we're getting a shot above their
heads. Probably not, probably not. And even the guys that maybe we
could, like Dwan Harris, the ball is gonna be out of our hands
because he stole it from us. Yes, yes, Nick, I know
that you can make some threes in your driveway. I've seen the videos.
You're not scoring five points on this Kansas team. It will not happen.
We're not scoring five on any college team. Maybe that one, I guess,
because that one was really the oak Kill team. Maybe that one.
But yeah, I'd take okill, I'd try okill. We would get.
We would They would be on the other end of what they just received if
he played oak Hill. All right, let's talk about all the other games
in college basketball, because there are plenty of losers to talk about. Big
twelve games. It was all other games. But now we're kind of getting
to the point where we have enough big twelve games where we can sort them
into that and other games. So let's start with conference action and landon a
game you got right. So I figure, I should you know, you're
already a bunch down and pick them, But I guess I'll let you have
your time in the sun with this one, because well, you got it
right. I'm not sure you thought it'd be like this, No, I
did not. Michigan State obliterates number six Baylor eighty eight sixty four, ending
the bears undefeated start to the season at nine to zero. It was forty
five to seventeen at the break. Tyson Walker scored twenty five, helped the
Spartan shoot sixty three percent from the floor while Baylor turned it over twenty one
times. Just a game that was never ever close. That's why, Yeah,
I thought Michigan State. I did pick them to win. That felt
like an upset pick that I liked. I did not anticipate a twenty four
point drubbing for Michigan State. Not a great look for Baylor, considering that
their schedule was better than Houston's but it wasn't exactly loaded. Like they beat
Auburn, who's been pretty good this year, had a nice comeback there,
and they beat Florida. But other than that, a whole lot of like
Nicols and Northwestern States and Gardner Webbs on this schedule, including Division two John
Brown. But it's like, so they finally got their chance at a good
opponent and they just completely got annihilated, as you said. Next up for
the Bears, they get another blue blood opponent. They will play Duke at
Madison Square Garden here on Wednesday night. I think that that's a really important
game for them because if they drop that one and they are zero and two
in the most difficult two games, you know, is that the team that
you're predicting to beat the jayhawkson and their run as Conference King. I definitely
don't think so Bears have great defense. Their defense kind of looks like it
normally his just not great. Okay, Well that was Baylor. Now number
four Houston. They survive Wade Taylor the fourth who scored thirty two in this
game, and Texas A and M seventy to sixty six to win their toughest
matchup of the season thus far up to with four seconds left, eighty eight
percent free throw shooter Henry Coleman missed both to sink the Aggies would have taken
its overtime. Houston is eleven to zero, but they did lose six man
Terrence geez are our sinuax something like that are sinuants for Arsenal. Okay,
there you go for the season too. A torn achilles a big loss for
the Cougars. But still they're good. They have a good defense. They're
number one and ken palm and number one on the net. But it's like
I seen this, seen this before. Let's get back to me. After
six big twelve games K State, they lost it home to nebraskt Ball sixty
six. They lost and didn't even have the dignated to hit fifty. They
scored twelve points in the second half, holy sixteen of sixty from the floor.
Overall, that's twenty seven percent, and that is also bad. The
Wildcats are eight and three. That's three and oh in overtime though, so
a little bit of luck for sure mixed in the bit. As your opinion
changed on k State at all, Ryan, I think I said they'd be
the seventh best team in the Big Twelve coming into the season, and teams
like Oklahoma and BYU have been better to the point where would it be surprising
if they finished like ninth. No. I still think that they're gonna finish
better than teams in that tier because I think they have a better home field
advantage. But it didn't do anything for them against the fighting Hoybergs. Yeah,
just a nightmare showing. And Jerome Tang. So I like Jerome Tang.
He's a good coach and a good man. He was great last year,
but this year hmm. I'm not calling him a one hit wonder or
anything, but they've been a disaster this year between all the Nakwon Tomlin stuff
and how nobody at the university administration level was on the same page to being
eight and three. They've had all this stuff all week about what rap songs
should they listen to in the pregame locker room. That was a big thing,
and then they get embarrassed by Nebraska at home. Like feels like a
sort of thing that's just not going too well behind the scenes. Maybe maybe
it is. Maybe it's just a loss, and sometimes losses happen. But
Yike's case State. Usually teams that are in a really good spot don't lose
by sixteen to nebrasketball. That's really bad. Yeah, that's that is a
pretty bad look. I don't know. This team's also I think decently less
talented than last year as well, which isn't helping. That's true, Yeah,
I mean they lost two NBA players. The only undefeated teams left in
this conference Oklahoma and Houston. Both teams are eleven and zer. The Sooners
are a big surprise. We'll find out how good they are this week when
they take on the Tar Heels in Charlotte. But overall, the two undefeated
teams left in this conference. So you've posted a hypothetical here, but I
do think this is fair. If given the choice between losing his entire family
or scheduling a moderately difficult non con schedule, how quickly do you think tj
Osselberger would put his wife and kids on a bus. That was pretty funny
that it was funny when I typed it. It was funny to hear it
out loud. Iowa State beat Prairie View A and M and Florida A and
M. Really getting their quotas worth of the military schools by a combined eighty
nine points. At this point, it's what we always say, just scrimmage
yourself at this point. Seriously, Yeah, that doesn't even make any sense
at all. And then lastly, in the Big Twelve, West Virginia lost
their sixth game to you Mass, Cincinnati lost to Dayton, TCU rolled Arizona
State, and Texas some of nineteen. Texas rolled LSU while getting Dylan Mitchell
back. The Longhorns look pretty dangerous. So we're about a month and a
half into this season, and if I asked you who are your prediction what
is your prediction of the top five Big twelve teams in order? What would
you say? Uh, Kansas, Baylor, Houston, Texas, TCU.
Yep, I think that's my exact order that I think that's exactly it.
I still trust Baylor more than Houston. I also could see Houston finishing like
seventh, like I really could. I think this is going to open their
eyes in this conference. And by the way, if they do, when
I say seventh, I don't mean they're gonna win like six games. I
mean like they're going to go eleven and seven and there's going to be four
teams that tie and beat them in this in the tie breakers or whatever,
because I have a feeling that anywhere between like three and ten in this conference
could just be an absolute log jam. We think that West Virginia finishes last
because I still think a team like Central Florida could could finish last with how
West Virginia is more used to this. Yeah, I honestly still think UCF
might be the pick for last because I think they might, yeah, just
get run over in a big twelve state, But West Virginia and Oklahoma State
are gonna give them everything they're worth for that last place. I think let's
talk about other games and a game that was on Peacock which is complete and
total booty cheeks, but the game wasn't all set To take over the number
one ranking once again is currently number three per Due, who put on an
offensive clinic in their ninety two to eighty four win over top ranked Arizona.
The boiler Makers got twenty seven points from Fletcher Lawyer and another twenty six from
Braden Smith, dueling white Guy of the Game candidates, with the two combining
to make nine threes. Is Perdue the best team in the country. I
don't know, maybe they should be number one with their resume. They gotta
win over Marquette, they gotta win over Tennessee, they gotta win over against
Zaga, they gotta win over Arizona. Like that's a pretty tarrent good set
of pre Christmas wins, it is. I think, yeah, the resume
is very good minus the Northwestern loss. I mean, they're really good and
they have arguably the best player in the country. I think I posted on
Twitter that their inevitable tournament loss this year is going to be something that their
poor fans just do not deserve because we know it's gonna happen. They have
good fans that have never seen them go to the final four like they are.
They have they made a final four. I know, they've never won
a championship. They have reached two final fours. Their final four teams were
in let's see here, nineteen sixty nine and nineteen eighty. They have made
a final four in forty three years. I mean, geez, I hope
they can get there, but like they keep losing its teams that are seated
way too low. Good luck. They're great, they look real sexy,
but this isn't the first time they've looked real sexy in December. Speaking of
a team, we're just waiting to inflict pain upon us rat Creighton bounce back
from their weird loss to UNLV by taking down Alabama eighty five to eighty two.
Ryan Kulkbrenner leading the way there. The Tide have lost by one basketing
back to back weekends to produce and Creighton. Next they play Arizona. Take
notes John Shier and tj Ottslberger scheduled teams that are good. Daat's getting on
it. He is. That's awesome, and they're gonna have like five non
conference losses. But all they gotta do is finish like fourth in the SEC,
which I don't know how you can say they're not going to be in
contention for it considering how well they've played some of these elite teams. Memphis's
home court advantage was good enough to take down number thirteen Clemson. It's the
tigers first loss of the year. Seventy nine seventy seven. Feels like every
year Clemson wins a lot of games early and then totally disappears by January.
Who is your bet to win the ACC right now? That's a great question,
and I probably still to say North Carolina. No, Duke's gonna finish
better than at least they should. Duke is a better roster than North Carolina.
Like I, it's not Clemson, it's not Virginia, it's duper UNC,
it's duker UNC. Yeah. Even though those teams are not blowing anybody
away right now, they are still the ones that you're betting on. Yes,
In the CBS Sports Invitational, Ohio State took down UCLA in an ugly
game, and then fourteen Kentucky outlasted Noumer nine North Carolina and entertaining eighty seven
to eighty three performance. John cal Perry brought both Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham
off the bench for some reason. Also, the Wildcats now have seven foot
stud fresh Aaron Bradshaw going, so theoretically I might be getting a little more
dangerous. They're the SEC favorite, right Oh they have to be. Yeah,
they're They're great until they inevitably do something stupid around March twentieth or something
like that. Number twenty team named Saint Peter's or something. Yeah, they
been there, done that. Number twenty two Virginia beat Northeastern fifty six to
fifty four. Somebody throw Tony Bennett in a closet and leave him there.
That is disgusting. Did you see the DePaul score yesterday? Goodness gracious,
oh maybe it was really really bad. So Northwestern, who is ranked,
went into Chicago and beat DePaul fifty six to forty six. Man, people
paid money for that. People paid money to sit in. The NBA suckson
is unwatchable. That's a first quarter score in some NBA games, a really
high scoring NBA game. The Pacers have hit like one hundred and forty five
points like ten times this season already. Yep. Even the Detroit Pistons can
score more than what forty whatever points that. Yeah, they've lost like twenty
three straight games or something. Yep. Yeah, they've gone from two to
one to two and twenty four. I think they should not be that bad.
But that's a different podcast. Correct Missouri in front of proximately ten fans
up here in case at the t Moble Center, we already played the song,
so that's fun. A Louisville update. After Ryan declared them no longer
the worst team, they said, old my beer. They lost to one
and seven to Paul and then Arkansas State at home by double digits. They're
five and six. That is too fair, a game and a half better
than Cal who's three and seven and is only one once since November thirteenth.
But I don't know how it's possible for Power Power Conference seems to be this
bad. They are so bad. So I don't know if you were on
if you listen to the last show where we talked about who is Gonzaga's biggest
competition in the WCC, and we're like, okay, let's just go buy
record by record, it's Santa Clara. Santa Clara has the second best record
in the WCC. Let's see who they lost you, Oh my gosh,
they were one of the team's cow beat. Yeah, that's where we're at
with the WCC. YEP, only four teams here, but they are pretty
high ranked ones ranked team to loose. It's last show, beginning at the
top. Number one Arizona took an el the Purdue. Number six Baylor got
their doors blown off by Michigan State number nine North Carolina. I can't believe
Hubert Davis is on this list. Shocking right. They lost to Kentucky and
the most irrelevant ranked team ever, Number thirteen clemes in they lost to Memphis
and you lost to both of us and pick them. You're nine games behind
Nick and seven games behind me and we're not even a Christmas yet. Yeah.
Uh, Ryan, one time you told me you gave me any advice
of never care and pick them. That's how you win is just by not
caring. And this is me not caring. Pick a box I did?
It is usually where and you and I Well, I might be jinxing this,
but you are in the semi finals and a fantasy football league and you're
so geeked about your chance of winning it decent chance you might have to play
me in order to get there, sir. How confident are you that this
is gonna be your coolie year? Zero percent? You're gonna beat me by
seventy next week? Well, I gotta get there first, and I gotta
hope not to get aj boer. By the way, it does not matter
who I play next week in the COO League, Sammis, I will lose
a laugher and it we'll be back to report on that sometime after Christmas.
Merry Christmas, Land and take an l on Christmas Eve, ask rock Chalk
Blog. Well, fans were very excited about the return of land in here.
Wow. The happy to see you too. Yeah, the people are
geeked, sir. That's why you can never retire from this illustrious paying position.
Lucky for you are very benefits package included a nice amount of paid time
off that I'm sure you enjoyed while you were sick over the last week.
Yeah, it was really nice to see the same same amount on the check
come in. That's what we do. We make sure that whenever you take
a day off due to sickness here at Inside the Paint, you don't lose
a cent against what you would normally make had you shown up and done it
through that, through your respiratory discomfort. That is what we stand for here
at Inside the Paint Headquarters. You also really stand for when I do show
up that I don't make a cent more than I would when I'm off.
Hey, you know what, I think? A balanced world is an ideal
world. So let's not question the way that the CEO of ITPS Headquarters does
things here, sir. The business is bigger than the individual. Do you
want to be replaced? Uh? Don't answer, right of your sentences.
Maybe I don't know who i'd replace you with, But I have a couple
of names in mind, and well, no, I think I'm just gonna
not alienate you at cam Lipple. In a contest of utter confusion, who
would win Mike Woodson anytime? Joe Biden, Kenny Payne trying to coach,
or Bill trying to figure out why Mitch Lightfoot can't guard the mobiley twins like
he should be able to write, He just should be able to guard two
lottery picks right, like, I don't get why that's not working. Let's
try it again. Oh we're down by twenty eight, Let's try it again.
Oh we're down by thirty five. Let's try again. That was the
icing on the cake of that just unbelievable loss, the worst loss by point
margins I've ever watched Kansas lose, and arguably the least painful, because good
riddance to that team there was. There was a moment in that game that
I remember Christian Brown hitting a three, who was minus thirty six that night,
by the way, I remember, I remember Christian Brown making a three
that cut the deficit to like nineteen right out of the second half, and
I was doing mathematic equations in my head, like, okay, if they
can have down at fifteen by this point and then twelve by this point,
and just like I couldn't believe I was spending time doing that. I was
unemployed during COVID at that point and needed something to fill my time with.
I guess, so I spent it with that horrible basketball team. Yeah,
and look at the great reward he got. Yeah, twenty whole wins and
a very ugly loss to USC. I think your answer at Joe Biden is
the most confused of those people. Yeah, but Kenny Payne is the worst
at his job of those four. Also true and without getting bashing, Yeah,
exactly, it's not Bill Mike Woodston's Okay. So I guess your options
are the current standing president and the current coach of Louisville, And the answer
is easily Kenny Payne. He's terrible, and Kenny Payne, to be fair,
had like a way easier turnaround job than Biden. Eh. Yeah,
I was gonna say Kenny Payne had a much easier as a much easier job.
Like he's all he has to do is call some basketball plays, and
he's bad at it. He's really, really bad at that at Evan Phillips
forty five, Landon, has your herpes healed yet? My alleged herpes is
like ninety seven percent healed? Hey, just been time for Christmas? You
don't want to pass along herpes to your family. That's gonna lead to some
real awkward conversations. Yeah, that would, wouldn't it. Hey, how'd
you get herpies? Oh? Landon? He lives in my house? Wait?
Isn't he your kid? Yeah, let's not ask questions. Don't want
to give anybody who already throws enough eggs at the homeschool or bus any more
AMMO to work with. So yeah, just go ahead and don't shake hands
this holiday season, sir at cope fraud? Is it time to officially cut
Timberlake from the rotation for good? Okay? Sir? One word answer,
I know what's coming? Maybe no, Okay, I thought for sure there's
gonna be a no. And is there a better coach in college basketball history
at winning games? They have no business winning than Bill self? No,
it's there there. I've never seen one. Like every single game that's tied
with three minutes left, not everyone, but like they win like eighty five
percent of those road home tournament. Yeah, doesn't doesn't make any sense how
that's the case. But when they're tied with five minutes left, they had
that, they usually still win. It's baffling. He's he's so good.
I'm not ready to bail on timber Lake. By the way, to answer
the first part of the question, I'd like to see a couple more attempts
to get him going. I mean, the numbers at talsand were real.
This isn't a guy who did this in high school. He did this individion
one as player he really was. I don't think he's I don't think he
has it to Kansas maybe, and I would love to be wrong, because
I think that elevates the team immensely if he's good. I just I've seen
nothing to indicate that. I can't imagine there being a better player on that
team than Nick Timberlake seventeen points night, like he was a good player.
It's very frustrating that it hasn't happened here. I'm at show Me Hawk.
You'll never guess who Ken Palm now has as their number one team after a
big win over unranked Texas A and m oh I think I know. I
bet it's those Houston Cougars who beat Rice a couple weeks ago and shot like
a rocket and the net. Man, I'm shocked they drop BYU. Yeah,
yeah, exactly because you know BYU has those forty point wins over crap
mccrap pants University and then they play legitimate schools and get crushed. But you
know the net will still and the freaking Chris Reynolds uses the net. They
think the nets a good tool out there at NCAA headquarters. I think then
that is actually a good tool. It just takes a lot of data points
to get right, like late season net is different than early season net.
Nope, that's not allowed, sir. That makes you a communist that you
are not allowed to say that. Wayne kerr our Man at dick Underscore Taser
says you. Ninety five percent of KU fans watch the game teetering on the
ledge of walls of wells overlook. I was traveling over season, missed the
game. Going back through Twitter was insane, fire Bill Bench, Harris Dickinson,
soft, kJ can't shoot, et cetera. My question, are our
fans idiots blind on bath salts or just arseholes? Yeah? I mean all
of it can I say that, By the way, do I have to
beat that? I know I can't say that, but fine, if you,
if you, if you make it arses that make it better or worse,
it's I think it's maybe a little better. Okay, then we'll just
leave it at that. On Bath Salts is my favorite. I think that's
really you can tell that that Wayne. There's a reason Wayne Kerr and Inside
the Paint get along pretty well. Make your jokes. There's a reason that
those two accounts kind of go hand in hand because, yes, completely correct,
Dick Underscore Taser, you might be the land and a Nick replacement when
they finally get enough of this show, sew down to get Wayne good old
Wayne Kerr. We don't know what Wayne Kerr sounds like like he could we
don't know. We don't know anything about him. We don't even know his
actual name because his username is Dick Taser. Well, based on Dick Taser
and Wayne Kerr, it might sound a lot like a plunger in a Mayo
jar, but that's well, yes, you're completely correct. It's it's wild.
I have a feeling that that Wayne will enjoy the rant earlier in the
show at Elliott rus and h this team's just going to win because their stars
are better than everyone else's. Right, that's the sense I'm getting because of
the state of the bench. Yes, that's also how college basketball works more
often than not for the Blue Boes, I feel like, right, pretty
much, pretty much like Kansas has four players that are better than the top
four players on most teams cumulatively, and therefore they will win a lot of
games. Like, there are going to be games that you don't get enough
from that group and you're like, man, a better bench, and they
probably win, But there's gonna be way fewer of those, and there's going
to be the big four. We're good and therefore we won games, right
usually yeah, or even games where it seems like, oh, if the
bench would have played better, they could have won it. Oftentimes is also
if our starters had just done their job, they would have won. Yep.
And that would have been the case against Indiana too. We wouldn't be
sitting here had they lost that game, had had whatever Galloway almost had Joey
Galloway he played football once and Matt Galloway is a writer for KU Sports.
Whatever the hell Galloway's name was Trey Trey Galloway. Had he made those shots,
we wouldn't be sitting here saying, gosh, the bench was disappointing.
We would have instead been saying, to Wan, did to shoot till it
was too late? Hunter? Its soft as dog poop after eating chocolate.
That would have been what we let off with. It's always going to be
about those Big four. Yeah, agreed. Another one from Elliott the only
question, Oh that Okay says that's the only question I have because I have
too many and would have to phone in otherwise, Hey, you never have
to phone it. We never phone in this podcast. That sort of stuff
isn't tolerated. Max's effort or bust that inside the paint. Sure at ol
Art Casey with our final question here, and I'm gonna go ahead and answer
it before I ask it. Here's the answer, O God, all right,
now, I'll read the question who would win five Nick Timberlakes or five
Ku version ty on Grant Foster's Oh oh it's Timberlake. I think the answer
is anyone who bets the under because that game is booty. Also, Olhart
Casey wrote in the tweet five justin Timberlakes, which may make this question a
little bit more interesting. I think Tyon Grant Foster would beat Justin Timberlake in
a basketball game, but that would at least make it. I would it'd
be more interesting than watching a brick contest between TGF and who's good now,
by the way, only took a few years and Nick Kimberlake, who's definitely
not good. Tyon Grant Foster for the the Grand Canyon. What are they,
sir? What's their mascot? They're the Oh, I think it's the
antelopes. They're just the lobes. But yes, I'll give it to you.
It's like rus and kangaroos. Tyan Grant Foster is averaging twenty one points
per game in ten games this year. I know he's good. That's very
very good. Yeah, he's been very good this year. He's also been
in college for what feels like forever, because that COVID year somehow was only
three years three years ago, and it feels like a lifetime ago. If
you ever have asked ARCB questions, use the x hashtag or apply to the
tweet, or just send it to me because I save them. Anytime you
want to criticize anybody, else's attendance on this show or whatnot. You know
where to find us. Just kidding. These co hosts are committed and dedicated
and passionate, just like Bill is. The playing IVY League schools before Christmas,
because every year we get this. Yale at number two Kansas, Merry
Christmas, Sir, Friday, December twenty second, your last game before the
big day at seven o'clock PM on ESPN PLUSO. Great the Yale Bulldogs of
the IVY League. They are seven and five. They played one ranked team
and it was Gonzaga and they lost that game by fifteen. They also beat
a team called Colby Sawyer and they won that game ninety five to thirty six.
That tells you anything about the quality of Colby Sawyer. Uh, their
best win is Loel and Arimount on the road. How does Gonzaga win in
WCC so much? Says Ryan. They play teams like one percent better than
Colby Sawyer for the this part, Yeah, Yale would be the second best
WCC team by Miles this year. Man, most years, if we're being
honest, I would say Santa Clair is better, but as we covered,
they lost to Cal so I really can't say that at all. Yeah,
no, you can't. Their leading scorer Yale's is is wing Bez and Peg,
who averages fourteen points and five rebounds per game. He is not a
three point threat twenty six percent. White Guy of the weld say, not
a three point threat, but twenty six percent basically means you're going to for
four. Well, that won't matter in this game, too, sir,
because these individuals are gonna take all the threes. Not just white Guy of
the Game candidates, but White Guy of the Millennium candidates. John Pollokatas and
August Mahoney are both shooting north of forty percent on threes, which means,
oh my gosh, a guy, a white guy named August, and his
grade point average is probably four point eight. He does go to Yale to
be fair. The leading big, oh go ahead, I'm sorry. Oh
are you choking talk over each other on this podcast? Are you choking like
a dog like Indiana did? Uh? Yeah, that's just my herpes flaring.
I was just gonna say, Kansas has never been burned by a guy
named August, so that's a new one. That would be new. The
leading big is seven foot center Danny Wolf, whoever is thirteen and nine.
He shoots fifty from the floor. He's also twelve of twenty five shooting for
threes this year. That would also make a lot of sense for Danny Wolf
to just kind of go ham, I don't think Danny Wolf is a white
guy. I think Yeah, if I look up Danny Wolf on Google,
it brings up an entertainer. Uh, so I need to look up Danny
Wolf Yale and let's let's take a look. He is no, Oh my
gosh, he's very white. He is. I was very incorrect. Here
is Danny there? He is yeap, so he's gonna make some Uh,
Yale's gonna make August Mahoney looks like the personification of the University of Yale.
Yeah, if you go to chat GPT and you say, show me what
the average Yale student looks like, August Mahoney's portrait comes up and it's it's
Yeah, there's gonna be some threes made at this in this game. Yale
itself is kind of a hard team to scout. They play at a decent
pace, They're pretty okay at everything. They've been a pretty good offensive team
this year. Their big strengths are free throw shooting, though it's in limited
attempts and three point defense. They've also been a good three point shooting team
because they have August and Danny Wolf out there. They're pretty middle of the
pack from a national perspective in most categories. They also have five losses,
so I mean, I couldn't find anything that they were just jumps off the
page, good or bad at. But they are seven and five against a
pretty lacking schedule, and again they're Nerds, so screw them, right,
Yeah, that is my general thought process on nerds for sure. Get out
of there, Kansas. They're three to zero all time against the Nerds of
Yale and they haven't played since two thousand and seven. I assume we are
all over the Hawks here. I don't know if August Mahoney doesn't make seventeen
threes, which is possible, and that's another thing that's gonna happen. August
Mahoney is going to do a dude perfect trick shot where he shoots it from
the student section and it splashes through the net, and somebody on Twitter is
gonna yell at me for saying, well, yeah, they didn't guard him,
of course he made it. Do you even watch. Yeah, that
would happen. That is exactly how that would go. That's and don't even
get me started. Like there were a couple of times where Ku left Indiana
shooters open because they're not good they read the scouting report. But I think
it was I think it was in Baco who was like, oh, let
me just euro step and launch this three above two guys with twenty four seconds
left on the shot clock and splash. And then the responses were where they
didn't guard him. You're jo like, oh my gosh. And that's what's
really the most funny part about it. Yeah, and neither's Yale, but
Kansas will be Yale. I'll say something like seventy this is get this.
The game before Christmas is always sleepy as hell. This is gonna be like
sixty eight to fifty four in the most sleepy year in recent memory for Kansas.
Is the reverse going to be possible? That's true? It could this
be that. Watch this be the game they drop one hundred. I don't
think it's gonna happen. I actually kind of agree. I think Kansas I'm
catching on to what they're doing this year. Finally, Kansas wins like seventy
seven to sixty seven. I may take an under on seventy seven. Honestly,
like they haven't. They haven't scored that much consistently recently, and this
is going to be such a snooze, Like, remember what was it Harvard
last year? What was the score of the Harvard game on this exact date?
Yeah? Recently at least they had a game against Harvard that was really
really boring. Did I just say sixty eight to fifty four or something close,
because that is what that exact score was. Oh, yeah, there
it is, So it is. That's about the sort of spiel for it.
I remember Grady Dick making a bunch of threes in a row in that
game, and that was just kind of it. That happened a lot last
year. Looking at the box score of that game, and Bobby Pettiford was
your leader with four assists for Kansas. Wow, no, wonder that team
wasn't that good. I mean, they were fine until their coach's heart gave
out. That's fair. They would have probably they probably wouldn't have beat Yukon.
They were fine until their coaches heart gave out, and then they lost
to Texas and got stuck in that region. They got Chris Reynolds. That
entire season was going great until the last week. Yeah, that is true,
and then Eric Musselman's shirt was off all of a sudden. Who knew
what happened. He got kicked out the other day. I don't remember who
they were playing, but he got Yeah, he got ejected for yelling at
the officials. And this was one of the many shows that you missed.
And yeah, we were talking about Nick's at his shirt actually stayed on for
a change. Yes, I think we all like Kansas to win, but
this is this is not going to be a super aesthetically pleasing game to watch,
but they will not lose if it was. If if the game is
a tie and everybody files out and they need a determined winner so they go
to spelling bee questions, then they're in deep trouble. That ain't happening.
If we have to start doing chemistry on the court or something like, I'm
not, by any stretch insulting Hunter Dickinson's intelligence, But if Hunter Dickinson has
to go head to head with August Mahoney and a trigonometry contest to determine the
winner, I think Kansas might be in trouble. Yeah, if it comes
down to that in the like seventh overtime and those are the new rules.
Yeah, Kansas is gonna lose, but before that, I think they'll win.
I guess it would be law questions before before trig. Yeah, you
know what, I think I'd rather take my chance with bar exam questions than
trig. Yeah. Its like a like halfway guess potentially correct answer. Yeah,
you could. You have a better chance of bsing your way to something
than you do have guessing a number. Right, yuck. All right.
Other games, we're only gonna pick a few. We're gonna pick four because
everybody's kind of being sleepy around this time of year. There are a few
good games. These rankings will all show likely by the time you listen to
the show. We're recording this late on Sunday night, about twelve hours before
the rankings come out. Number six Baylor versus Number twenty one Duke in New
York City. I am real tempted here. That is kind of Duke's home
away from home. But I'm not gonna go against the Bears winning back to
back games. I do think they get it done. I don't really trust
either of these teams that much right now, which is tough to pick I'm
gonna take. I'm gonna take the Bears as well. Number nine North Carolina
against number eleven Oklahoma and Charlotte. I will go with you and see big
here. I think Oklahoma is a fraud waiting to get exposed. I do
think since this is in Charlotte, I will take the tar Heels. If
it was in Tulsa, would you switch? I'd be more tempted to.
I believe. I don't think Oklahoma is actually that good, but I think
they're solid enough to win some games like this. I think North Carolina does
get it though. Number sixteen Illinois against we are Miszoo in Saint Louis,
I really want to. I was gonna pick Missouri and then they lost the
seat in the hall, and Illinois is good. Terrence Shannon's a first team
All American right now. I think the fighting a line I take down Missouri.
Same and the number one Arizona versus number fifteen Florida Atlantic entertaining game.
Here are we all on the Wildcats to bounce back high scoring game the Arizona
wins. Yes, I think I agree, but that will be the best
game of this sleet. All right? So next show? What next Saturday
Night? Maybe like we do in the Saturday night right before Christmas getting it
out? Uh, maybe we might be earlier in the week. I don't
know, probably won before Christmas, right I would bet so? Yeah?
And if the game, the Harvard game is Friday night or the Yale games
Friday, then I don't know what other options we've got, but we'll figure
it out. Well, we'll put our heads together and put our herpes aside
and find the best time to give you a show. How about that?
This is inside a Pain on Rock Chuck Plug and Rian Landrath. Oh man,
I didn't come up with the name. I'm not Nick. Yeah,
there there you go. Nick and I have got I've spent a lot of
one on one time together in the last last few days. Now, I'm
a little scared to be spending one on one time with you because of what
you're contagious with. Oh well, you know, you could just try to
get it the normal way. It's more fun in my hand and wiping it
on your face. Not know where that was going. Where I heard the
first couple of syllables, They're glad I'm glad it did not take the dark
route there. You could have said that you were Kadarius Tony's hands whatever you
were given cons I'm not sure if you want that dropping balls. Take that
as by, behave yourself.