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What was that like, pseudo sequel
spiritual success or to True Crimes to True

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It was supposed to be a true
crime game and then it turned out Sleeping

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Dogs, well we got was way
better than any true crime game. Yeah.

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Anyway, I'm Johnnie Saipeke. Welcome
the game spot After Dark episode two

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hundred and forty five, you said
that was more confidence than usual. Thank

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you because you called me out on
it last week. I do every week,

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so I had to be more confident
about it. Two hundred and forty

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five five. Uh current Avena,
Hey, thank you for joining me.

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Oh, it's such a pleasure.
It's truly an honor to be invited back,

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especially after last week's episode. Yeah, where I move like, I'm

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not inviting any of you back.
I know, because we fucked up all

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the Metroid games and I fell asleep
while Jake was talking about Alden Ring.

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And but it's great because this time
you don't just get me, No,

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we get Max Bluementhal either. Hey, what do we do? Max doesn't

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he Well, I just don't come
on very often. So to the Max

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man, you're gonna right now?
Well, I was actually I was mostly

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thinking about Max pain Pain to the
Max. Uh have you ever gotten that?

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I have gotten so many Max?
What's your favorite? What's your favorite?

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I don't have a favorite because I
hate them all, but Maximus,

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Maximilian, Maximus, Maximbo. Have
you has anybody calls you Max Pain?

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Yes? Ships actually you know what? I have pain mode. If you

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let me pull on my phone,
I have a list, yes please,

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Speaking of Max Pain. Uh,
we talked about Max pains so much because

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I'm here there. There was there
was a tweet where someone like was showing

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like their their fits uh, and
it was one was like a Max Pain

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fit and right next to the one
Max Pain fit the the original Max Paine

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with the jacket over it, and
then next to it was Alan wakefit.

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And they're like they had him like
on their rack, being like, I'm

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all set baby, like this is
going to outfits. Georgia pulls it up,

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uh, turns to me and goes, what do you think of this?

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And I was like, what do
you mean? Like like you with

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that? I'm like wearing it?
Yeah, And I was like I think

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I look like Max Pain. She's
like yeah, but you know what if

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you wore that? And I was
like, do you want me to and

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she's like yes, and then she's
like, also, I want you to

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put a bold cap on, and
then I want you you dive, you

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know, dive on your face while
at an airport and playing sweet music.

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So if I show up to the
office addressed as Max Pain, that's why

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specifically Max Pain won. Yes,
okay, yes, like the leather jacket

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with the whole insurance. I mean
the necklace but you do well, you'd

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have to be a necklace with a
ring on it. Well, yeah,

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the ring of your dead wife.
Yeah. I mean I feel like I'm

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missing some lineagure because everybody calls me
that and I haven't played it yet.

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Max Pain. Yes, Oh,
I mean Max Pain is the I mean

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you should be honored. You should
play Max Pain and you probably should.

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Yeah, and you uh, and
then you could learn that you're named after

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a guy whose wife and baby were
killed, and you went on a your

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frame for the murder of your partner
and uh unravel a conspiracy specifically named him

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after Max. Yeah, yeah,
and then unravel. Yeah, that's what

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you can understand where you came from
and like your heritage. Yeah, and

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you can unravel a corporate conspiracy that
also has to do with like experimental drugs

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that make people, Oh, you're
getting away the whole game. Don't do

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that. Yeah, I need to. It's gonna play it for myself,

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the flash of falling, and then
you're gonna have a way different context to

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that. And then we're all gonna
appreciate Max Pain mode, which is the

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mode you get in right in the
game. No, you personally, And

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then we'll watch the movie. Yeah, and then we'll watch and then you'll

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be like, wow, I'm just
like Mark Wahlberg. And then we'll put

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on the Max Pain film the trailer. If I don't think we should ever

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watched the movie, I think we
should just watch the trailer because there's a

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great scene when a shirtless man is
like standing on the docks in the night

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and he like opens his mouth the
screen, but they replace it with like

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a tiger's currently tiger roar. It's
very good. Is that actually what happens

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in the movie. I've never seen
the actual movie. I saw the movie

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when it came out when I was
a young boy. Max Pain was my

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favorite game of all time. At
the time. I'm so sorry. I

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was like. Now as an adult, I probably be like, this is

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great for its own reasons, but
at the time, I was like,

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this is a travesty at all things. Yeah that matter in my life.

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I'm lost again. It was a
movie. Yeah, they did my favorite

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podcast episode, but I was learning
my own lore behind the nicknames. And

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yeah, they made a movie in
like two thousand and six something like that,

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during the Terrible Movie adaptation, Yeah, starring Mark Mark Wahlberg as Max

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Pain. As Max Pain, it
starred Milia Kunis as Mona Sacks. This

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is true strangest casting choice, you
know, I mean, Mark Wahlberg wasn't

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well also strange, but like I
mean, there's I mean, I don't

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see I at least believe Mark Wahlberg
was like a cop okay, where Mona

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Sax looked like a Millie Cutis looked
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who like rated her mom's class assassin
and not like a sexy fe fatall.

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Like, I was just like,
oh, that's also true. That's also

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true. So tell us your your
favorite Max names, My favorite Max Wilbert,

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Mighty Max, Max, Rito,
Kitty Kat, Gludias, Maximus Food

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Max, MAXI Pack, Kitty hat
uh Marsha. It's a told the story

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with another person gotcha. It looks
like maximode, Maximode, I've got some

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bad ones on here. I'm not
gonna say, whoa Harry Potter, but

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you got Harry Potter too specifically.
You're transformed to Harry Potter, aren't you?

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People are? What is it?
As you could probably guess, I

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would get Harry Potter all the time, and I still get Harry Potter sometimes

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and I'm like, I don't look
anything like is it just because but I

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will say this, you're white?
Yeah, no, no, Like at

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the time, I got it exactly
and that's when and that's where I was

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gonna direct over to Max be like, why, why how did you get

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Harry Potter? I used to just
get everything. I used to just get

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every generic white, brown haired actor
period, interesting, Keanu Reeves, John

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hughzach h Matthew Broadrick, Tom Cruise, like you name it. It's just

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like I've got it, Like somebody
has somebody has come up and be like,

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you look just like this is actually
when I've gone you look just like

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Bob Dylan's son. And I was
like trying to go to Blockbuster and be

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like, I'm just trying to find
a bad movie. And stale red vines.

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Thank you so much. And she's
like, you look, you look

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him up, you'll just like Bob
Dylan Son and heinz I now know a

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h Bob Dylan does. Bob Dylan
Son does have a band. I can't

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remember the name of it. Bob
Dylan Son band. Yeah, Bob Dylan

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Son's band. And I don't look
anything like that guy. But he's white

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with brown hair, so you know
something. They're like, oh wow,

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anyways, Harry Potter, MAT's over
here. Such a wide range he hit

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and now that I have a pencil
mustache. That opens the flood of other

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things that don't make any sense.
And he's like, you could play John

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Waters. I was like, I
can play a very skinny, frail game

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man. Like who's like who's made
pink flamingos and movies where people like eat

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human feces? Like I can I
can be John Waters. I can't be

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John Waters. Uh, that's insult
the John Waters. I love John Waters,

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and I can't be I'm not gonna
be John Waters. Just can't happen.

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Don't look like him, but I
have a mustache like them Gomez Adams,

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that one I can check that one
checks out. Yeah, you only

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because I could do that well,
because I want to fulfill that fantasy.

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Yeah, I think you could do
a good Gomez Adam. I know.

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I mean when I was younger,
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nineteen nineties Adam's family film. I
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because it's fucking amazing. When was
the last thing you watched? When was

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the last time you saw Gomez Adams
in that movie? Silk scarves, smoking

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jackets, stripe pinstriped suit coats with
giant shoulder pads. Sounds like you with

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a thin mustache and dark circles under
his eyes. God, anyways, you

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should anyways, But I don't get
hair Potter so because you don't have glasses.

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If you put glasses on, I
never got Daniel Radcliffs. I was

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about to say, Kurt with glasses
would be a whole different beast. Kurt

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with a hat on as a doucheback. If Kurt has a If Kurt has

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a cap on, I turned into
a raging asshole. Immediately, it looked

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like a douchebag. What is it
about baseball caps? It turns those like

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twenty years younger for some reason,
have you or into a douchebag or not

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saying that people wear baseball caps look
like all look like douchebags. I'm just

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saying me personally. I don't know. There's a podcast about video games.

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We've we have not talked. We
talked about Max Man. Yeah yeah,

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yeah, yeah. Kind of quiet
week as far as, uh, what

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the fuck are you talking about?
It was not a quiet week Riven.

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Oh sorry, my apologies to Riven. I'm actually very excited about Riven.

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Okay, let me let me recry, let me start. It's been the

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biggest week of the year in video
games. Let me tell you all those

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other weeks in yeah fucking matter because
guess what Riven came out this week.

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Even game of the best game of
the game to change games. It's the

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sequel to Miss. I mean that's
the subtitle. Yeah, Riven, have

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you beaten? Oh? No?
Okay, but I think I think I'm

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making a good stride. So for
context for listeners, I've never actually played

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Riven. The remake came out today
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twenty fifth, because I had my
calendar. Okay, but I love Kurt

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wakes up and looks at their calendar. I mean, I mean, I

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said in a meeting. Its true. It was like a happy Riven Day

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to those who celebrate. I'm out, like I gotta go. I never

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I've always, always, always wanted
to play Riven because I love miss I'm

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obsessed with Surprise. You've never played
it. It just was like we had

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so like everyone's dad. As I
was talking to Max, I talked to

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everybody about this. Everyone's dad has
played Missed. It is the game.

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It's like it's like every single time
I talk to someone, they're always like,

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who doesn't really play video games?
They're always like, oh, you

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know, I used to play this
one game with my dad. Miss It's

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like, there's this game I used
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an island, Missed. Like it's
always like it's the shared cultural thing that

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every one of our generation can like
uniform, like we can all bond.

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Even you never played it. You
know what Missed? Yes, you know

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what miss is, and you know
that your dad had it. So we

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had Missed and I was I didn't
have the patience as a kid to beat

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it, but I did as an
adult. And it's changed it changed,

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like the chemistry in my brain.
But I feel like my family had moved

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on because they were My dad was
a doom guy, like Doom Quake sort

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of dude. So like we got
missed and he was like, I have

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no fucking idea, what's going on? Boot up Doom and like, and

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then that music would take over and
we played due. So I don't think

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Riven was just in the was in
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old when it came out. Grim
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nineteenninety eight, but Missed and Ribbon
weren't. So I had to just like

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watch from the sidelines for a long
time and I played Miss three and all

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that jazz. So now's my time
to to take it back and play Riven.

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So I haven't I haven't finished it
yet, but I'm making my way

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through it. How do you feel
about it? I years of anticipation.

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I know it's it's I it makes
me realize that the simple things of my

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life that I love most. It's
like changing. No, no, I

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didn't say it changed my life.
It just it reminds me of the things

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that matter to me in my life. Yea like exploration and like a feeling

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of not understanding but the will to
want to understand. Like I have no

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idea what's going on, but with
like perseverance and patience and enjoying a world,

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I can learn about that world and
connect to that world and slowly get

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begin to understand. And last night
I had like this breakthrough for one of

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the puzzles where I was like,
oh, I understand what we're doing.

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I understand like the things I'm in
this I'm in the space. You go

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into the space world, like it's
not space work. You go to space

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basically in the game, and you
like rotate these globes and like create these

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bridges and you're like feeding this bizarre
ball into a into a mechanism that's like

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shooting a laser beam to a lighthouse
light in the middle of space. And

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it's like, I have no idea
what the fuck's going on. But then

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I discovered something a room that shows
like where these energies, what you're shooting

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these energies from, and like I
was like, oh my god, I

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don't understand it, but I get
it, like I feel something from it.

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So I love it. I just
love I love not understanding things and

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then getting some sort of uh own
version of my understanding of it. It

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feels like that game is a more
of a vibe than an actual game.

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I don't know, I mean I
would I would only disagree with that because

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there is a story, like there
is, there is a lore. It's

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just that the game puzzles and you
know, yeah, the game just doesn't.

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The game certainly creates a vibe,
but I wouldn't say, like there's

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games that you play that definitely are
like, oh, this is a vibe.

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You got like good music and like
the good thing and like you're just

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vibing out. But this game there
is if you can go deeper with it

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if you wanted to. Yeah,
there's like your fucking character comes with a

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journal that has like a hundred pages
already filled out. You could like read

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every single page if you want to
know the story. All I'm saying is

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where are my my my missed lore
YouTube channels? Where I don't I mean,

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they might be, but like you
know, people give people give from

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software praise for their like storytelling.
Miss was doing that first. It was

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all there, Yeah, and you
know what, it's also they've they've I

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believe that Missed games like Missed and
from Soft games follow the same exact principles

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of in terms of like philosophy and
mentality and playing those games, and the

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key one is patience and people like
I've I've met I've met from Soft,

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I've met like hardcore gamer gamers who
love pressing buttons, like that's their thing.

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They love you'r you like pressing buttons? Is the button pressing gamer guy?

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Uh? And I think I fell
somewhere in the middle, but I've

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heard button pressing gamer people be like, I don't fucking get missed. I

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don't understand what's happening. These fucking
puzzles make no fucking sense. Somebody was

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texting me about Laurli and the Laser
Eyes, who was a very button pressing

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gamer, and they were like,
this makes no sense, there's no logic

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in this. I was like,
no, what you're saying to me is

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almost for batim what I've heard people
say about Soul's games, where they're like,

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this makes no fucking sense to me. I don't fucking understand this.

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I don't know how to figure this
out. And the thing you can tell

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both those people is like, pay
attention to the world. Be patient.

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Yeah, read the room, and
I think they I think they fall in

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the same and the same on the
opposite spectrum, same side of the We

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had the same coin. What's the
what's the saying coin? Sure? Like,

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yeah, it's just different size of
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Yeah, okay what you said basically. Anyways, but where is the where

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is the miss level? You?
Four hour? Eight hour YouTube before YouTube?

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Is a question that might be why
come out to two thousand two somewhere

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around this The last miss game,
Missed five, was like pretty late,

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yeah, and it was it was
not very good from whatever from what I've

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heard. Anyways, that's what I'm
playing, and I went, thank you

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for interesting. Anyways, I know
I haven't finished yet, but I don't

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know if i'll finish it tonight.
But I well, I know is that

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I had I had a really calm
night drinking sake and playing that game.

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That is such a mood. Oh
my god. Now that is a vibe.

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Maybe the game isn't a vibe,
but the vibe, like the how

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you play it as a vibe.
So yeah, yeah, we'll go down

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the Jean Luke's currently trying to find
if there's a find the World of Miss

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part one, the Great Din Civilization
Complete Chronology. It was four years ago,

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so you know what? All right? Okay for people out there doing

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good work. Yeah, go support
your local minute philosopher historian. Yeah,

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I mean the brothers who made that
game, they put in the work,

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like to flash that world out there
is depth. That's I think that's cool,

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cool stuff in there. But that's
my busy week. I don't know

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about Max over here. How about
you? I am playing a game,

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an action game. Is it?
Is it? Can you talk about it?

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Or no? You can't talk about
it. I am playing a game.

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It's a lot of button hitting and
you impressing your monkey brain button and

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it's sort of hitting my monkey brain. But it's what are you playing outside

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of that? Anything? Star five
years late? But yeah that they just

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put out an update this year again. Yeah, it was like the perfect

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time because the updates that they put
out. You also joined You also recently

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joined the steam Dicks squad. Yeah, why did you say that? Wait?

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Why did I It's true? So
I guess yeah, you got a

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steam deck from Jake past his steam
Dick to me, is that what you're

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saying Okay, hold on, hold
on that way, but yeah, all

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right this podcast, you got a
Steam deck, joined the steam Deck crew

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with with us US folks, but
Jake gave up his steam Deck past his

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deck to you. I love it. I mean I I haven't like pushed

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its limits yet because I've only been
playing Stardo, which is meant to have

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such a graphic intensive game. It's
it's perfect for me because I didn't get

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it on the Switch and I had
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that I couldn't transfer my stay between
Switch and oh yeah Steam, because I

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was very stupid. I'm still s
important the developer though, so I bought

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it twice. But yeah, I
love it. Yeah, so far I've

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only had it for like five days. Do you have any grand ambitions with

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it outside of playing games? Like
what do you plan on you know,

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mess manimulation or putting other stuff on
it? And not necessarily I mean,

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I wanted to play Genchen on it, but that is a whole other kit

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in kaboodle because that's not a Steam
game and separate launcher, so it requires

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me to go through a Linux to
figure that it is. It's I mean,

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I to be fair, I guess
I don't know about Gensen, but

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other launchers are like not as complicated
as you'd think. Like I was able

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to get epic games running on it
fairly easily. Like a lot of people

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have put in the hard work to
make that stuff not terribly complicated. Okay,

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well I'm a new all that,
so I think it taking me a

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little bit longer. Runs pretty well
on it. I'm not sure what aout

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The game was not unreal. It
looks unreal. Well, it's also on

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Steam, so it's a lot easier
to just yeah right right, But not

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everyone I'm trying to say, is
not every game graphic attendensive game can just

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run. I mean without some work
on the developers, and like I know,

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Indica for a while couldn't run,
and then eventually I think is now

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steam bag verified. We played Elden
ring or somebody played Elden on steam Deck.

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I played a little bit of it
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did to Dafonte. It runs great
on no frame dropped, I mean maybe,

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but not really. Yeah, you
can lock it up to you know,

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whatever you need to be. I
remember running great sixty. I think

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you could get it running to sixty
or at least. Like one cool thing

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with the steam Deck is you could
if you have the O lead, it

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goes up to ninety, so you
could lock it at forty five and it'll

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actually like feel pretty smooth, you
know, because it's it's you're not uh,

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you're doing it at like a you
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so it just doesn't sounds weird.
It sounds weird, but if like,

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if it's a consistent forty five,
it's fine, Like it runs smooth,

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you know, as long as your
monitor can support it, so which

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the olead does, which is pretty
cool. Yeah, Yeah, that ran

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great. How much stronger is the
old compared to the original? It's not.

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It's just a different refresh rate,
different refresh rate the screen has,

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like there's less of a bezel,
so it's a little bit larger, kind

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of the same way the switch Old
was. The battery life's better, so

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there are a lot of improvements to
it, but the actual underlying hardware is

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the same, is pretty much the
same, so it feels like switch oh

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Lead basically yeah kind of. Yeah, but I mean it's it's a substantial

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enough upgrade that it's it's probably the
best version of the steam Deck but by

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no means are you missing out by
not having it? Okay, Yeah,

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since I've gone into my PC gaming
chapter of my life, I didn't think

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it was possible for me to gain
more appreciation for the Steam Deck because,

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like I loved, I already was
obsessed with my Steam Deck and that was

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like kind of my gateway back into
PC gaming after after not being a PC

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gamer for many, many many moons. And it's only like enabled my excitement

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and my passion. Yeah of for
for like wanting to buy games on Steam,

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Like we'll play games on Steam and
you've been streaming from yeah, boy

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computer. It's fucking great, especially
because it's like when I first got Riven

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and it was bedtime and I wanted
to go to bed, and I opened

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my Steam Deck. I like,
I'll just install it and see how it

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runs on there. We got the
options just like you can just st from

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your PC to your Steam Deck,
and I was like, this is the

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greatest life I've ever lived. So
I did that and it was absolutely wonderful.

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I still installed it obviously for on
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I mean, once I finished Riven, I know, you know, I'll

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just be speed running it over and
over again. Have you speed sped run

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any game? I can't imagine couragin
to mean it being the speed run.

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I mean, it depends what game, and it depends on what way.

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Like I've I've had, I've raced
myself and Resume for the original uh many

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many many times. And there's games
like I don't just resonable for a remake.

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But you know, my whole thing
resu before remake that we've talked about

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extensively is like that game gives you
tools to beat that game faster and faster

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and faster and faster. But I
wouldn't say I'm like a I'm not.

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I would never be like speed run
the game in this game like no,

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I just I just like lauralin the
Lasers is a game that I want to

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beat as fast as possible because oh
man, I really hope someone does that

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for yeah, yeah, because you
know, like that is such a puzzle

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heavy game and the every single puzzle
changes. But once you understand the layout

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of that mansion, there is a
mentality you could probably take to get through

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that game as fast as possible.
But Reside evil games are the games that

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I like. I always say that
resuev the resubal series are my button pressy

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games like that's those are the games
that like I resonate with on a mechanical

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level more than anything else, including
like the old school tank Control prereunder background

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versions. So those games I have
like race to be as fas as possible,

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but that I'm not gonna fucking go
broath the Wild and glitch my ass

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up a wall and through a fucking
volcano and then through Gandorf's ass, like

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like I'm not, I'm not,
I'm not gonna do that. I'm just

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imagining you when you first saw the
trailer for the the remake and you saw

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the first parody with the chainsaw,
I lost my fuck. Yeah, lost

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my fucking mind. Uh yeah,
you're right, absolutely speaking resonal. Did

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you see that they put the original
one on gog Oh no, yeah,

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RESI one like o G PlayStation RESIDUEV
one now excuse me, Uh yeah,

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it's great. I'm not I don't
like I'm not on Twitter anymore. So

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I'm I like feeling I get to
like organically alert about these things and they

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feel so much better. Yeah,
yeah, uh they're putting on gog sposie

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Seerund actually did like a video she
got to announce it well, oh,

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which was like cool. But it's
not just they have one, but they're

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also gonna put two and three out
as well. They're like coming soon.

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Oh my god. If yeah,
they are, they are. It's it's

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like you can pre order it by
it now, by the bundle and we'll

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us get it. But that's awesome
because it's one of those things where because

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they've like remade those games and like
you know, like obviously like that's the

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version Capcom probably wants you to play. A thing I always hate about remakes

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is like it kind of overrides the
availability of the original. People want to

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back to the old times, yeah
origin, or you know, maybe you

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actually even prefer it, like right, like I prefer the yeah, no

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reason. I think Demon Souls is
a great example of that way. It's

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like I would like to play the
original version of Demon Souls. And so

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it's cool that Capcom and Gog we're
able to like put this together and have

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those versions out and preserved. And
because it's on Gog, it means his

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versions are dear and free, so
you can just have them forever, which

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is great. So that's awesome.
I'm sorry I'm reading about the article right

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now, and I'm wait, so
includes all of its original content with quality

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of life improvements and enhanced capability from
modern systems. I'm not sure what that

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is. I'm gonna be honest.
Huh. It's also the also quoted,

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so it doesn't look like it.
It's also the original version, not the

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director's cut, so it has the
original soundtrack, Thank fucking god, the

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director's cut soundtrack as a fucking yeah, you made a whole video about that

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short? Yeah, do you know
about that? Max? Nope, because

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I'm not a resident evil guy.
Well, I'll give you the short of

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it. There is a composer who
did the soundtrack to the Director's cut release

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of the First Residence soundtrack who claimed
to be uh deaf, yes, and

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like handicap. He always had like
banges on his hands on a cane and

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he was like regarded as like the
Japanese Beethoven. This is all true.

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He also did the soundtrack to Onny
Musha two. Yeah, so this is

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one track, and there's one track. It's the basement theme for the Director's

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cut. It it sounds like like
a it sounds like a monkey. Ca

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cophony of farting horns like a monkey
farting into like a like a horn.

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Yeah. And so you hear it
and you go, well, that sounds

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like something a person as it is. But as it turns out, not

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only was he not deaf, he
also didn't write it, had a ghostwriter

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for everything. It was like a
double whammy of like, I mean,

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this dude did like the Hiroshima Symphony, yeah, like, which is considered

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one of the most remarkable pieces of
UH music that come out of like the

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modern age of of classical music in
Japan. So he didn't write it.

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He scammed all of his work,
or just this one specific, all of

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that. He didn't make anything.
He didn't write any of it. But

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that soundtrack is kind of legendary for
that reason because it's it's unraveled a scandal.

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What's funny is that that whole soundtrack
isn't terrible. No, it's not

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only just that one. I actually
think the hallway, like the lobby theme

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in that version is better than the
original version. Like, there are actual

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some tracks I like or in the
director's cut. It's just that that one

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track is like the most baffling,
bizarre, Like I have a very vivid

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memory of like the first time I
played it getting to the hallway. What's

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extra funny. It's not just that
it like pauses for a second and it

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goes like that's right, and it
has a pause Barber. I think I

405
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:42.519
was like me and my brother were
laughing straight for like just could not handle

406
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:47.400
it. And that happened. And
the thing is about that song in the

407
00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.119
video that I made, if you
guys, if anybody who's listening actually cares,

408
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.319
it's a it's it's for a show
I made. Could remember when that

409
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.200
was came out Jesus Christ twenty twenty. And I think this is the second

410
00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:00.599
episode was the Residuevil Basements Skin.
But in that in that episode, I

411
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.839
reached out to a bunch of classically
trained musicians to try and explain it to

412
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:11.240
me objectively because it was ended up
being produced composed by an actual composer.

413
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:14.839
You did wonderful work. And the
thing that we the thing that I ultimately

414
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:21.279
learned is like no on paper on
music notes, this song is eerie as

415
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:26.079
fuck, Like it uses methods that
is supposed to create senses of dread,

416
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.279
and it does it by layering notes
that are not supposed to go together with

417
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:37.279
a chord that are played in such
a sequence that's like uneasy uneasy. However,

418
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.200
at the time of which that game
was made, the technology was not

419
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:49.240
there to reproduce those instruments, and
therefore those sounds just use midi horns opposed

420
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:55.440
to maybe like a sort of midi
synth or classical string arrangement. So it

421
00:29:55.519 --> 00:30:00.920
was played for me when written,
when actually played properly with actual instruments,

422
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.799
and it sounds great. Actually,
now that sounds it actually sounds effective.

423
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.359
It's just in that. In that
and then again that's the product of what

424
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.680
you when you probably ghost get a
ghost writer to make classical music for a

425
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.799
piece of for video game who doesn't
understand the technology. I'm assuming that's what

426
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:22.759
you get anyways. So uh,
it's it's it's kind of cool that I

427
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.400
hope they put out the director's cut
sound I'm sure somebody's gonna add the directors

428
00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:38.920
cut sound track model. It's great
though. I mean, if you've never

429
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:44.079
played the originals and Evil do it
do it for the cut scenes alone.

430
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:51.720
Oh, I feel like I'm a
criminal for not playing Yeah, get out,

431
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.119
hold on, Yeah, I thought
you were didn't you say you were

432
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.319
no, you played on the wink
to I played all the wink two okay

433
00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.960
for making him though to dead Space
fucking two one and two. I think

434
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.279
remake. I must have played one
Resident Evil at some point I don't remember,

435
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.000
but something turned me off by the
tank controls. I think that.

436
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.480
I mean, they didn't stop.
They didn't stop until after until they didn't

437
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.160
till residual six. No, no, five didn't have tank controls. Are

438
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.240
you sure? No? No?
Sorry? Five? No, you're right,

439
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.200
I'm wrong. I was, yes, five had it, Six did

440
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:26.960
not. Yeah, so six was
the first one that didn't. Yeah,

441
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:30.839
and then seven went first person.
Yes. Yeah, it must have been

442
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:33.279
like three or two. That makes
I played for like probably five minutes,

443
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.599
and I was like, I'm done. But Resident Evil to remake, Man,

444
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:40.279
Oh my god, I was gonna
say, but I really feel like

445
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:44.799
you would be I would like to
see Max go hand with resume four remake.

446
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.319
Yeah, four remake I think would
be your speed, just because there's

447
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:51.839
like especially because if you like dead
Space, because that was specifically the Resident

448
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.240
inspired You know why I hated quote
unquote hated Resident Evil and like dead Space

449
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.039
was because I feel like I could
defend myself in dead space. In Residenteval,

450
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:07.480
you're just like, well, it's
constantly my yeah. I mean four

451
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:12.559
has a different ballet of stress where
it's like you do have the resources,

452
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.480
but you are so overwhelmed with enemies
that it then becomes like disc dance dance

453
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:21.559
of like switching with like you know, like you know, there are scenes

454
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:23.599
where you're surround on all sides and
like, sure you can reload, but

455
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:27.119
then you can switch to a different
weapon, but then you risk the ability

456
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:29.920
to Like you might be in a
position where it's like I have to deflect

457
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:31.599
with a knife, but my knife
might break if the next time I do.

458
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:36.279
It's like, there's just this wonderful
thing. It's that's the ship that

459
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.240
makes that I figured out by through
my brain. That's like I love Survival

460
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:45.039
Horror because I like the feeling I
guess being like I'm not gonna make it,

461
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:46.680
but I can. I can if
I just like I might have just

462
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.640
an inch, I can make it, And that's the ship that gets that

463
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:53.400
gets my rocks off. For four
remake was definitely like the closest I got

464
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.200
to like, oh, I really
want to play this game, but I

465
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:58.839
never did. Still, so you
gotta do it. I feel like again,

466
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:04.400
I feel like a criminal. For
criminal, you're just you're you're just

467
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:07.599
you're maybe on the brink up becoming
a fugitive, and we just got to

468
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.440
chick it makes you a criminal.
When you come in the office next week,

469
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.160
there might just be the game booted
up on your PC. You know

470
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.279
this, kidding what's going on?
And on principle, you need to play

471
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.480
it for the dialogue because the fucking
writing in that game is a top tier.

472
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:28.160
Oh yeah, okay, yeah,
yeah, you'll get there. We'll

473
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:31.680
get you there. I'll tie you
down, We'll tie you down, We'll

474
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:36.839
make it. Yeah, I will
say. Alan Wake two's gameplay, I

475
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:38.759
love the game playing that and the
Dodge bount actually broke my brain a bit

476
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:44.039
because I was trying to play Rising
before remake recently and I was coming off

477
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.079
the heels of playing and I was
like, I can't dodge, Like,

478
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:49.559
I can't, I can't. Like
it's it's it's a small thing, but

479
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.880
it's like they feel so similar and
at times that it was like it's I

480
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:58.960
was like getting in Allen Wake two
mentality not action no no no no no

481
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:00.640
no no no no. But yeah, I think the gameplay in that was

482
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.200
was pretty good, but I think
just the whole story and the presentation of

483
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.760
that game was just unbelievable. I
mean that's definitely more than the game playing

484
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:12.199
for sure. Yeah, although I
actually really like the gameplay about like too.

485
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.039
I like the gameplay too. I
like it. I like it.

486
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:16.760
But you know, but if we're
talking, you know, like top tier

487
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:23.079
feeling, sure, yes, okay, absolutely starting to piece it together now,

488
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:29.119
Yeah, especially when you get into
like again like knife deflecting and even

489
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.719
like you even the hip boxes in
Resume four are so specific and interesting because

490
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:37.360
it's like there is technically a dodge
because if you duck, like because you

491
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:42.400
can crouch in that game, and
like it's like I've seen people online have

492
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.079
access thrown at them and like have
pitchforks thrown at them, and if you

493
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.840
crouch at a certain time, like
you dodge it, like you can get

494
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:52.079
past it. And it's like very
small things like that, or like the

495
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:53.960
way the world interacts with each other. We're like I've seen shit online where

496
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:58.920
like somebody will throw an axe and
like a wolf will jump at you,

497
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:01.360
and then like the act will hit
the dog and like stop it from hitting

498
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.480
you. And it's like little things
in the world, the way that will

499
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.880
play together. That's just like that's
just like like stuff like that. Or

500
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:12.559
you know, like when you watch
an enemy trudge through other enemies, like

501
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.320
you know, there's a oh yeah
yeah, like the bowl, the bowl

502
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:21.159
wearing headman with a sledgehammer who will
fucking knock through other villagers and it's like

503
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:22.440
you can like trick them and figure
out the world that will win. It

504
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.559
feels good. Anyways, you can
tell the slow wee because we're just talking

505
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:32.320
about old games. What are you
playing? What am I playing? Yeah?

506
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:36.800
Uh, John Luke? To make
clear that I addressed John Luke because

507
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.320
I just said you yes, you
me, uh guy in the corner of

508
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:44.440
the room that I've been playing two
things. V Rising The Rising is one

509
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.039
of them. I'm deep into that
V Rising. Do you know about V

510
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:51.480
Rising Max? Because V Rising is
it's been in early access for like two

511
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.280
years, but it just came out
officially one point zero this year. It

512
00:35:55.400 --> 00:36:00.000
is a top down isometric in the
style I love, like a Diablo,

513
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:10.920
but it is a like open world
crafting survival. Well, I wouldn't say

514
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:15.800
survival because there are no like health
and food mechanics like crafting mechanics where you

515
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:19.719
know, like, oh, like
as as this is typical crafting formula where

516
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:22.440
you know, oh, you get
this resource and this resource list, you

517
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:25.199
build this stuff and then you can
build this that. The title does not

518
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:30.119
match the game you're talking. So
here's the thing. It's the game where

519
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:35.360
you go and collect resources. Like, so here's the thing. You're a

520
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:39.800
vampire. You play. You play
as a vampire that has woken up,

521
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:45.360
and you're like, I need to
gain back my my power and defeat Dracula

522
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:50.760
and that's like your end goal.
And you have this like massive list of

523
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.519
all these bosses you need to like
defeat, and each time you defeat a

524
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:58.480
boss, you'll unlock new abilities and
you unlock new like crafting things you can

525
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:02.920
get. Yes, actually they even
have a crossover with Castlevania. So Simon

526
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:07.280
Belma is one of the bosses you
fight. Oh, which is very fun,

527
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.840
but yeah, I mean it's it's
got this really satisfying loop where as

528
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.760
you progress, it's like okay,
like you know, I will beat this

529
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:19.800
boss. Now I can turn into
a wolf, and then I can get

530
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:22.039
around faster. And then I beat
this boss and now I get like this

531
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.199
ability and now I can like make
this thing, you know, like and

532
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:28.639
improve my armor in this. And
then the big thing is that you you

533
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.519
can pick a plot of land and
you build your castle and you actually like

534
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:36.639
slowly get to build out this like
vampire castle and you can make it like

535
00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:39.920
however you want. And the actual
like building tools are pretty robust and as

536
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:44.639
you go, so like even more
than just like upgrading your abilities. The

537
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.480
most exciting thing is like I got
a new wallpaper and I'm gonna like and

538
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:51.000
I can change the way my castle. This is the point. What's the

539
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.480
point where you say all that stuff
and I'm like, I'm on the verge

540
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:59.000
of falling asleep until you say a
wallpaper and I'm like, yes, I

541
00:37:59.039 --> 00:38:04.079
want to be a born fucking vampire
on the goddamn planet. I can fucking

542
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.599
murder every one of this fucking village. But instead I'm gonna change my wallpaper

543
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:13.519
today and I'm gonna like everyone live. The most exciting thing is like it's

544
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:16.320
like, oh, yeah, we
unlocked different candle operas. It's time to

545
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:22.639
go build a bunch of candle obbers
and put them around rising Dracula. Oh

546
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:27.159
I just white and blue pinstriped house
yeah, and you're like, I can

547
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:34.280
now repolster my sofa rising, like
the carpet comes in blue. Now it's

548
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.280
just like I imagined every single time, like, oh my god, we

549
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:45.719
got crystal door knobs Rising Journey just
fucking you know pretty what We'll say,

550
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:51.400
the only thing I did the music
in the game. It's not very vampireing.

551
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:53.960
I hope it sounds like the Sims. It just kind of sounds like

552
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:58.360
it's just kind of whatever. It's
like, yeah, that's music. So

553
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:02.760
what we do is we put on
a visual K vampire playlist okay, all

554
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:07.199
right, which I don't know if
you've ever heard visual K before. It's

555
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.440
like Japanese like ah, like I
think like Japanese like operatic, like goth

556
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:17.320
vampire that was clearly inspired. It's
like a whole genre that's clearly inspired by

557
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:22.760
Castlovenia because they all kind of sound
like Castle Vania like soundtracks, but with

558
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:28.159
like screaming metal. You know,
stuff is so specific, it's incredibly specific.

559
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.800
It makes a great playlist when you're
playing this game. I highly record.

560
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.159
I was gonna say, you should
absolutely still continue listening to that.

561
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:37.719
But I know that my vampire music
would be the band typo negative because the

562
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:40.559
singer looks like a fucking vampire,
as like a six foot eight vampire man

563
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:45.519
with fangs. He actually has fangs. U Jesus, you're pretty good,

564
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:51.119
but maybe have a make sure it's
uh a safe for work or not.

565
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:54.480
Since he's done Playgirl before, so
you gotta be careful when you google his

566
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:58.239
names something. I'm playing this at
home, so do whatever I want.

567
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:00.880
Yeah you can. Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying if you go google

568
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:06.159
this, maybe make sure you're not. Another game that I had that same

569
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:07.679
situation with where I was like playing
the game, but I kind of didn't

570
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:12.920
like the music with C Stars.
Oh interesting. That game was like really

571
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.159
fun to play and I love the
vibe of it, and then I was

572
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:20.840
like, this music kind of wasn't
back m Controversially, I feel that way

573
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.960
about or in The Will The Will
the Wisps. Really, I think that

574
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:29.920
soundtrack is obnoxious. I think it
is so loud, like so bombastic,

575
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:35.159
and so like Disney this Disney fied
Yeah, to the point where it was

576
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:38.320
like genuinely distracting me, and I
like, I shut it off, and

577
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:42.440
it's like when I have to do
that in a game, I feel like

578
00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:46.800
the game has failed, like the
important part of it, the triangle when

579
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:51.280
you're creating a piece of art where
every single thing is supposed to compliment that

580
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.880
thing. Obviously, maybe it did
for that for what I wanted to accomplish,

581
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:58.800
it was successful, and the people
who love that soundtrack awesome, But

582
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.719
for me, it was like it
was bumb it was too over the top,

583
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:05.480
it was too it just bombarded everything
for me. So that's that's an

584
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:07.559
example of a soundtrack. Was like, I can't do it. I feel

585
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:09.039
like that's our hot takes of the
day for sure. Yeah, yeah,

586
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:12.519
no, I know, I know
people will fucking you know, send me

587
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:19.199
a pile of ship listen to this
asshole, enjoy this soundtrack. It was

588
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.400
when opened the boxing we filled the
flies and farts, But you know,

589
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:29.440
I would rather listen to that on
the soundtrack. I'm joking kind of what

590
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:32.039
was the other game you were playing
besides the V Rising. I've been replaying

591
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:37.480
Dragon Age Origins. Actually you saw
that reveal and you were like, I

592
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:40.360
need to go back to the to
the s. Yeah. Yeah, I

593
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:45.159
was kind of feeling the itch and
I've been meaning to play it with Georgia

594
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:51.400
because she's never played dragon Age,
and she loved Boulterer's Gate, and so

595
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.719
I was like, okay, like
there's there, there's that's the Gateway.

596
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:57.960
I keep hearing, Yeah, it's
there's there's a lot of cross over there.

597
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:00.639
It's not like exactly the same,
but like there is a lot of

598
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:02.960
crossover. So it's like, hey, let's you know see how it is.

599
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:10.519
It's fascinating playing that game now because
there's I so it's my favorite of

600
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:14.039
the three, and I think it
still holds up. But there's a lot

601
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:16.400
of elements about it that are like, yeah, this is pretty archaic in

602
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:21.280
some ways because it's when was it
made. It was made two thousand and

603
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:24.480
nine, which is it's weird because
it was. It's weird to think about

604
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:29.920
because when it came out, it
was very much like we're going back virus

605
00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.880
saying we're going back to our our
our Boulders Gate roots a boulders Skate one

606
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:36.400
in two and so it was kind
of meant to be a spiritual successor to

607
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:39.920
Boulders Skate, and it is in
that way where it's like it has the

608
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:45.519
same like real time, but you
can pause issue commands combat that that game

609
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:49.639
had even has like you can straight
up normally, I think the preferred way

610
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:51.960
to play that game is more like
kind of zoomed in, but you can

611
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.920
actually zoom all the way out boulders
Gate style and like play it that way

612
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:58.119
where you just like straight up like
click on the map and they walk around.

613
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.719
I don't think it's the best way
to play that game because the presentation,

614
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.480
but you can play it that way
if you want. But then that

615
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:10.800
that series is like more gone down
the uh kind of action y route ever

616
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:14.960
since, like like slowly to the
point where the new one just straight up

617
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:19.079
is like an action game with like
a Perry mechanic and everything. And I

618
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.079
was like, you know, and
and I've accepted that because I think they've

619
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:23.320
just slowly been doing it. Like
I'm not going to be a convention about

620
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:25.960
it, because I'm like, yeah, they've been going the while, and

621
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.960
we have bulders Skate three. But
it's just interesting to like look back and

622
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:36.440
be like, wow, like that
first game really was trying to like capture

623
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.679
the energy of boulders Gate, and
then they've moved away from that. And

624
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:44.679
then meanwhile, boulders Gate three came
back last year and was just like this

625
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:50.599
huge thing. I know, even
from X, you know, and I

626
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:52.360
was gonna and that was what I
was gonna ask, like, do you

627
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:57.679
foresee maybe trying out Dragon's Age.
That's the thing we're just supposed to be,

628
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:00.199
well, balders Gate is supposed to
be like an entry for D and

629
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.719
D and just these kind of other
games too, And I for me,

630
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:07.960
it didn't really push that, but
I feel like it definitely could for other

631
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:09.760
people easily. And that's why I
guess, Yeah, I think the weird

632
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:13.599
thing with with Dragonage, I'm curious
how they handle it is I think Dragon

633
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:22.079
Age has a lot more layering of
like characters and plot beats over the years

634
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:28.519
that will maybe make it a little
less accessible to people who aren't like I'm

635
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.360
you know, I'm sure they have
that in mind, and they want to

636
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:34.559
kind of build the new one to
be as accessible to new players. Uh,

637
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.039
But it's like, hey, like
the core conceit of that game is

638
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.519
building off of, like the plot
beat that was at the end of the

639
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:45.519
last game, which came out ten
freaking zon. You're going to bridge players

640
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:52.400
with a world that exactly doesn't quite
have the same accessibility or approachability and controls

641
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:57.239
and all that jazz one hundred percent. Yeah, where boulders Gate three definitely

642
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:00.079
has a lot of tie ins too
the original Bolder Skate, but it I

643
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.960
know means required that to be invested, So I think that's they kind of

644
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.760
have a challenge with that one.
I would like to try. I've never

645
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:13.039
played to Dragons Dragon Agent either,
and there's a part of me because I

646
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:19.559
like archaic com like you know,
systems and ship that you know doesn't really

647
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.880
make sense today. I'm like,
I mean, I don't think it's that

648
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:27.639
archaic. Well fuck that, I'm
not interested, like like I think you

649
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.199
would, but I think you would
specifically you would probably play and be like,

650
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.199
oh okay, I see what they're
doing. That's someone who's played like

651
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:38.119
the original uh Serrupges of that day. Oh you know recently too, Like

652
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:44.079
I mean exactly Planescape Torment Yeah what
uh? I love that game so good,

653
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:45.280
but I yeah, I still like
that first one quite a bit so

654
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:50.039
far. I love the vibe of
it. It looks ugly as hell now,

655
00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:52.480
but to be fair kind of,
I don't think it even looked that

656
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.920
good when I first came out.
If anything, I mean it's because it

657
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.760
came out the same time as Mass
Effect and yes too, just looks so

658
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:05.320
much better. I mean, mass
Effect one looked good in its own way

659
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:09.000
at the time. As Effect one
looked amazing. Yeah it was sixty right,

660
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:14.199
yes, yeah, yeah, it
is aged less gracefully now, but

661
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:15.079
at the time it was like,
wow, this is amazing. I'm not

662
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.719
even dragon Age at the time didn't
look awful, but it was just like

663
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:22.199
it looked kind of weird and rough
and Spot I was watching. I don't

664
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:29.599
know why I was watching Dragon Age
origin reviews for some reason recently. I

665
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.960
would never do that for fun.
That doesn't seem good, I know,

666
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:35.360
so it must have been for work
for some reason. But I remember seeing

667
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.320
it because I was I was watching
the old game Spot video review from two

668
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.760
thousand. I remember being like,
this game looks like a ship. Yeah,

669
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:46.639
I kind of, But I have
now now I need to go back

670
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:49.960
and understand. Why was I watching
that? Why do we give it?

671
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:52.519
Do you remember? No? I
don't care. I mean, like I

672
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:57.480
don't. I have to assume it
was like a nine or something. We

673
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.199
should we should rewrite history right now
and say that I was given a nine

674
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:06.000
point four. Yeah, there,
we did points points. I think we

675
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.519
I think we still did point decimals
back then. Well, I'm gonna say

676
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:13.119
a nine point four yeah. Man, that game is still pretty awesome though,

677
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:17.119
Like it's just far as the amount
of like you know, world building,

678
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:21.559
characters, side quest, like that
game is dense as hell. Uh

679
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:23.880
and and yeah, like I think
all that stuff about it still holds up.

680
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:28.199
It's just things like oh, the
presentation and and also like it being

681
00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:31.960
an old PC game, they're weird
things like the UI. Well the UI

682
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:38.159
is okay, but like none of
the text scales up so when you're playing

683
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:44.760
on like a four K monitor,
Yes there is a I found a mod

684
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:46.480
that someone made that like fixes that, and I was like, all right,

685
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:50.039
well we need to download this because
like I can't. I mean,

686
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:53.880
what happens if you just knocked the
resolution down of the game. I mean

687
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:57.360
you can, but even even on
ten ADP, it's kind of small.

688
00:47:57.719 --> 00:47:59.679
Like it was like, oh,
I need to play it, like seven

689
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:06.280
point safety let's go. Good,
we gave it. Are you ready?

690
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:13.239
Yeah? A nine point five close? I always thought. I was like,

691
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:16.599
oh shit, point ah, it's
pretty good though, yeah, do

692
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.920
you want to read Uh let's see
why, let's see what that was?

693
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:23.920
It? The good and bad.
Oh it was. Sorry, I'm scrolling

694
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:30.079
up to it. Uh with it? Do you want to guess with Kevin

695
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.679
van Ord? Holy shit, it
was. John Looks, a legacy fan

696
00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:37.599
of game Spot November thirt Spot reviews
back in the day. Yeah, so

697
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.800
today I used to read this guy
named Peter Brown. He's a loser anyway.

698
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:46.559
So the good. The good is
intricate, involving storytelling, amazing dialogue

699
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.960
and voice acting, bring characters to
life. That's that's great. Bridge fantasy

700
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:57.840
world filled with interesting lore yep.
Yeah, enjoyable questioning with plenty of twists

701
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.440
and surprises. Yeah, there's a
lot of good the way. At this

702
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:02.599
point it's like I'm surprised. Yeah, it's a great game. Lots of

703
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:07.760
spells and abilities make combat fun.
Yep. Cool. Now for the bad.

704
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:12.119
Oh, this is what got it
a nine point five knocked it down.

705
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:16.840
The one thing one quote, a
few glitches. Hmmm, oh you

706
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:21.760
know what? Yeah, actually there
there is Ah, there was a mod

707
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:22.960
because I was looking through the mods
and I was like, what are the

708
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:28.239
mod what's the modes scene for this
game? It's actually pretty dense and a

709
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:32.960
lot of it very not safe for
work. Oh ok, sorry, like

710
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:36.920
things in the game were not safe
for work. No, well, people

711
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.760
said, like, what if we
did this, take this and make it

712
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:44.480
that was the thing? I mean
that the course. I mean it's a

713
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.559
Biber game, so there are sex
scenes, and everyone says, yeah,

714
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:50.079
what if we take those sex scenes? Can believe that wasn't marked us a

715
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:53.280
good point. It was just like, just like characters with lots of personality,

716
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:59.320
like lots of spells in combat,
make combat fun, sex keep going.

717
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:01.920
I mean that's all I know about
balders G three And I've played that

718
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:05.480
game, and I played that game
for like a lot, and I still

719
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:07.599
whenever people like, hey, what's
that game about, I was like,

720
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.480
oh sucks. This is like the
first thing which definitely walks and boulders Gate

721
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:14.880
could just run run away with it
in that department. Yeah, but I

722
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:22.280
want my Fable STD game. Oh
sure, I thought I would here to

723
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:28.760
get if the new table doesn't have
intestine condoms and STDs. Yeah, like,

724
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:31.360
what are we miss all of that
Fable I don't remember any of them.

725
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:37.760
Yeah, oh yeah, there's lava. Don't worry. Don't have to

726
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:43.280
worry there, that's at the end
of it. Face two is the one

727
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:49.480
they had like the good and bad
like clearly separated. That's always been the

728
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:52.280
whole Fable thing. I mean,
like the cool thing about Fable is that

729
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:57.239
you know your character slowly transforms based
on whether or not you're good or bad,

730
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.440
Like you'll literally become a glowing angel
person. You took a further We're

731
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:01.800
like if you ate too much,
you would get like obese. Yeah,

732
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:06.280
like you know, like they did. Some weird stuff was in two or

733
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.880
three where you can have like you
like can marry someone and then have an

734
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:14.559
affair and then like your wife will
go and beat the ship up. Three

735
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.800
told you my story, my Fable
three story when in someone else's world.

736
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.400
Yes, yes, you have to
tell this. Oh okay, I'm maybe

737
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.119
I've told this on the podcast before
it so apologies. So Fable three had

738
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:30.679
a mechanic where I think you could
just like go to a portal and you

739
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:37.119
would be like connect me to someone's
game just randomly because the game had co

740
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:39.480
op and you could just like as
long as their world was open, you

741
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:43.639
could just join it. And I
was like, you know what, I

742
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:47.519
just want to see what happens.
Take me on a journey. I joined

743
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:52.000
this person's world I'm playing as a
girl in the game, uh and their

744
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:55.880
guy. And there's a mechanic in
Fable three where you can hold hands with

745
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:00.119
NPCs, and like, this is
what I wanted real quick, this is

746
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:05.719
what I wanted to Bowlers Gay three
more than sex holding, because handholding.

747
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:13.239
I just wanted to hold Wither's hand. He was I had no I had

748
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:17.360
zero point zero desire to fuck anyone
in that game, but I did have

749
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:22.480
a weird thing for Withers. And
I understand how complicated that is, wanting

750
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.440
to have sex with a dead man. Yeah, I didn't say it.

751
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.599
You just finished the sentence for me. And it was one of those things

752
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.519
where were like, I just I
just want to hold his hand. So

753
00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:37.239
that's one thing Fable has. Fable
three, yeah, has on top of

754
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.320
alders, you can hold people's hands, and so you can barely just do

755
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:45.320
that with other players as well.
You can hold hands. So grab me

756
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:47.960
by the hand, like kind of
run me around, and they're like,

757
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.800
here, take this ring, will
you marry me? And I was like

758
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:57.480
sure, I've been here for five
minutes. And then they're like great.

759
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.199
They dragged me over to like the
chap, we have a wedding, we

760
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:06.800
get married, they grab my hand
again, they run me over to their

761
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.079
house. They go to the bed, and then it's like do you want

762
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:13.719
to have sex? Like the prop
pops up and I was like sure,

763
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.119
and then it's just like they didn't
use a condom, and it's like you

764
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:21.760
have a kid now, and then
just like just a kid pops up,

765
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:23.920
like a carriage with like a kid, and then it's just like, oh,

766
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:29.280
okay, we have the kid now, and then it just says they

767
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:34.519
have filed for divorce. You have
now been broken up with and then all

768
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.039
of a sudden, it just cuts
to a loading screen. I'm back where

769
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.760
I was in my world, and
it's just like the players from their world

770
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:46.639
what a flash stream, and then
my character is just there like nothing happened,

771
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:51.360
like like my world was like this
is so time. That is so

772
00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:55.440
unnerving. Must have felt so used
kind of yeah, it was kind of

773
00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:00.119
a little bit. Yeah, I
was used for achievements is the it is

774
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:06.639
the epitome, the very definition of
being. Yes, I think they were.

775
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:08.639
I think they were like perfect,
I can have a trophy of like

776
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:13.719
half of this with another place.
It'd be great if the trophy specifically was

777
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.079
because I think I got the trophies
too. Oh god, it would be

778
00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:22.440
great if the trophy specifically was like, marry someone, have a baby,

779
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:28.920
bunte unprotected sex with them, get
a baby, divorce them, and kick

780
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:31.480
them back to their fucking realm.
That's what the trophy. And you have

781
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:35.760
to do it within like, and
the trophy has to be called something like

782
00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:40.840
life Speed Run. Yes, yes, right, Life Speed Run achievement and

783
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.400
uh and that's exactly what both of
you got. So that was I just

784
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:47.360
think about that all the time.
So if the New Fable doesn't have if

785
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:50.360
the New Fable doesn't let me do
that, like, what are we even

786
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:51.840
do? What are we doing?
What are we doing here? I feel

787
00:54:51.840 --> 00:55:00.440
like this is gonna be John Luke's
vengeance. Of course, not morble.

788
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.679
You said there's a there's a thing
in your voice, like, of course

789
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:07.840
not that'd be sorry, that would
be so bad. I want to do

790
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:13.480
that. Chris is playing One day
suddenly, I know, yeah, one

791
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:15.639
day, one day J'll be like, hey, you want to come over

792
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:19.480
in the world and be like we
can play with you question or something,

793
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.199
hole in hands. Oh this is
so nice, And next thing I know,

794
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.679
it's like the funk out of my
house. Curtain, the kick me

795
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:27.840
to the curb, and I'll be
like, what the fuck happened to my

796
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.679
life? And then I'll be trying
to call you and be like, how

797
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:35.400
is our sign? May like he
doesn't want to speak to you. Click

798
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:40.880
where's the alimony? Motherfucker? Click? Even though I feel like if you

799
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.480
if you have the kid, I
guess you know. So that's what I

800
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.719
have to look forward if the new
fable doesn't allow that relationship between John Luke

801
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:57.800
and I said, I'm returning it
to games Stop. I'm returning this game

802
00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:01.559
back physically to the physical media world
I've left I We're just gonna like take

803
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:06.760
it out of I'm gonna put it
on a USB drive and bring it to

804
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:09.960
games Now. It's not even one
open in like San Francisco anymore. I

805
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:14.360
think there's one of the miss one
you should just like take a picture of,

806
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:17.760
like your digital copy and my money
pack. Can I just like return

807
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.920
I was used, I had a
baby, I got divorced. Now they

808
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:27.039
won't even let me speak to them. And then the person games up like

809
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.679
do you wanna do you want to
trade this and get five dollars credit to

810
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:34.639
your next came your next preorder.
Oh, don't don't give me my war

811
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.320
flashback. I mean, I've been
there. I've worked there for a hot

812
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:40.000
minute. We all worked there.
I never worked there. Now, just

813
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:45.480
the the the uh, what do
you call it? I want to what

814
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:52.079
do you call like pristine touched?
Yeah, it's clearly not because of what

815
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:55.559
happened to me and Fable. Yeah
yeah, yeah, I guess we all

816
00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:00.440
have our moments. Yeah, anyways, let me hold hands with Withers.

817
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:04.360
Let us have a kid together.
I will let him see the child.

818
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.800
I mean, I'm just imagining that
meal. I want to shake her head.

819
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:12.719
Yeah, what does that guy just
really wants to shake somebody's hand on

820
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:15.800
the airplane? Have you's not seen
it? No, it's pretty terrible.

821
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:21.360
I feel like that's your energy towards
Withers, right Jesus Christ. No,

822
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:23.000
maybe I live in a live in
a perfect world where I just get to

823
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:29.400
have the fantasy of me aggressively shaking
with his hands, whether he likes it

824
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:32.760
or not. Sounds like a threat. He would like it, I don't

825
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:37.320
think. Okay, let's stop,
all right. I think that's a podcast.

826
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.079
Max thinks for joining us, thank
you for having me. Yeah,

827
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.679
of course you should be on more
often. We'd love having you on fun.

828
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:52.599
Have you just sit here and press
buttons? Kurt? You're not inviting

829
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:54.800
me next time? I take it? Yeah, Kurt, you can you

830
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:59.519
can hear? I don't know.
Are you okay? No, I'm not

831
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:02.639
in this podcast? Are you thinking
about I think I'm just thinking? Are

832
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:07.119
you planning how you're gonna think about? My son? Where are they?

833
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:08.760
I need to get home. I
need to get home to my son.

834
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:14.199
It's been fifteen years. Are they
what are they up to? What have

835
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:15.360
they been doing? She try and
to see if you could open up?

836
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:21.840
Uh? Probably not, Damn.
Anyways, I think you're trying to Outroya.

837
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:22.760
I was trying to outro the podcast. Thanks Kurt, thank you for

838
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:29.639
being here. I'm I'm continuously shocked
that I'm allowed back on every week.

839
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:34.239
Yeah, after this episode, I
agree? Yeah, thank you, not

840
00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:37.440
even last week's episode, but this
one too. Yeah. Yeah, well,

841
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:40.840
thank everyone for listening to another episode
of Games but after Dark and Games

842
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:49.400
spot Max Va Lava. I'll never
hear the god damn. Every time you

843
00:58:49.480 --> 00:58:52.079
get a code for a games and
be like, does it does it have

844
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:55.519
the lava check? Does it have
to have max Lava Yeah. Cool,

845
00:58:55.800 --> 00:59:01.320
Thanks appreciated. You're absolutely so welcome, alright, both sarcastically and seriously.

846
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:06.719
All Right, everyone, we'll see
you next week. Goodbye, bye,