WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.839 It's time for coffee and company. Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety, 2 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:12.359 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think we are get 3 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:16.239 off our show, idiots. The kids are crying or turning off, crying. 4 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:19.960 Countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Intermurals, Brother, gold Play 5 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:24.000 inter Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 6 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:28.559 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 7 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:50.600 Now? Here's Nick Coffee. Over the many years that I've been employed here 8 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:55.679 at iHeartMedia on Sports Talk seven ninety, I know I've mentioned many times my 9 00:00:56.719 --> 00:01:02.280 fascination with dreams. I don't know why we have dreams, meaning like why 10 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:06.200 they happen at all. I don't know why we have the things occur in 11 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:11.480 our dreams that we have occur, but it fascinates me. And today, 12 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:15.359 I think it was about seven oh six, I woke up and realized that 13 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:21.879 my son he wanted more milk. It's a normal thing, but I'm usually 14 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:25.959 sleepwalking as I leave the bedroom to go to the kitchen and our TV. 15 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:27.840 You know this is my roots sine, I fall asleep out there on the 16 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:32.879 recliner or the couch. Usually it's on ESPN Sports Center, and I just 17 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:34.680 don't sometimes don't even remember getting up in the middle of the night to go 18 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.920 to bed because I'm just you know, sleepwalking. So at about seven o 19 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:42.239 six I walk to the kitchen. TV's on and Sports Center is covering live 20 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:49.480 the PGA Championship of course at Valhalla, and right there on the you know, 21 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:53.760 not full screen, but you know, they're a little bottom graphic there 22 00:01:53.200 --> 00:02:00.640 says two things, Scotti Scheffler currently being detained by law and by police, 23 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:05.840 LMPD, police, whatever it may be. And then it says that somebody 24 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:10.759 is dead, like they've postponed everything because somebody was tragically killed. Not a 25 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:13.759 lot of details, I think at that point, at least not that I 26 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.560 could see on ESPN. And I thought to myself for a brief second, 27 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:21.000 you're not awake yet. You think you've woke up, you think that you 28 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:23.199 know you're starting your day, but it's just you having a dream. And 29 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:25.199 then sure enough, I guess I came to and realized, no, this 30 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:29.520 is real, and it just is. It's still many many hours later, 31 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:35.960 it's you can't make it up. The guy leading the PGA Championship yesterday here 32 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:45.879 in Louisville at Valhalla, number one golfer in the world is arrested and taken 33 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:46.879 to jail. You know, at that time, you didn't know if it 34 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:50.919 was going to get to that point, but sure enough, like you saw 35 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:53.080 the video and everybody saw the video, and that was I mean, I'm 36 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:55.879 glad that video does exist. But I will say this, as much as 37 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:01.599 it's been shared millions upon millions of times, it still doesn't tell us what 38 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:06.560 I think you would need to know to really, you know, make your 39 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:12.280 own assessment of of you know, what you think about the situation and like 40 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.800 who's in the wrong. And we may never get all of that information. 41 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:23.400 I hope we do. But today sucks overall for everybody involved. Just a 42 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:29.280 tragic situation where somebody, a volunteer, lost their life. Just very very 43 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:35.680 sad, and that's I mean, that's a true tragedy and everybody traumatized. 44 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.479 Who was on the shuttle that hit the I mean, and I'm sure they 45 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:44.000 knew at that point what had happened. Just a horrific situation. But thoughts 46 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:47.280 and prayers to the person who lost their life after being hit out right outside 47 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:52.879 the course earlier today, But then I guess I can't say it's a surprise. 48 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:59.719 All attention shifted to the situation with Scheffler, and it's crazy. I 49 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:02.319 mean, I still can't. It still doesn't seem like something that really happened, 50 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:06.000 but it did, and we'll talk about it today. It is coffee 51 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:09.680 and the company we are fueled by. Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety 52 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:13.400 Thank you for hanging out with us on a rainy Friday afternoon. Doesn't look 53 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:15.600 like the rain's gonna stop, and it's that nagging rain, right, like 54 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:20.160 the rain that you kind of know it may now be pouring every now and 55 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:24.319 then, but like it's just it's not going anywhere. It's gonna be around 56 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:26.480 for the rest of the day, which is unfortunate. But I guess they've 57 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:30.439 been able to still keep the the event going because it hasn't been I guess 58 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:33.040 that dangerous. But uh yeah, rainy Friday afternoon not a great way to 59 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:35.879 start the weekend. But the weekend is here for a lot of us, 60 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:41.439 and I will be out next week, so I'm gonna make sure we finished 61 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:44.319 strong here because again I got a little bit of a concern on my end 62 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:46.720 that maybe John the Company made himself like he's been plotting on this, He's 63 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.120 been waiting for me to take this trip so he can take over the show. 64 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:51.920 And it's gonna be you know, the company, Man and Company, 65 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:57.040 and that would be wouldn't be a good name, would it would not be 66 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:59.360 a good name? So all right, we're rid you until six o'clock and 67 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:00.879 you can take with you wherever you go. Listen live on the out radio 68 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:04.000 app listen live at seven ninety Louisville dot com. And if you want to 69 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:06.319 join us on the show, you can, and I'll tell you how you 70 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:11.079 can do that coming up here shortly. I'll open up the phone lines once 71 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.600 we get our first break out of the way here. But I guess i'll 72 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:15.560 just start John. You and I haven't talked at all today about this. 73 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:18.600 When I mean were you were you up and following or did you wake up 74 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:24.680 to find what? Had you know? To transpire? A ESPN notification, 75 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:30.600 a Fox Sports notification of just said Scottie Scheffler going to jail something like that 76 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:32.720 was very you know, clickbaity, as you might think, and I click 77 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:36.839 on it and I'm like, this is I was awake enough to process it, 78 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:40.879 but just not realize like what the hell happened kind of thing. Yeah, 79 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:46.040 and it it's I don't think. I mean, I'm really happy that 80 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:49.000 I shouldn't say happy, but I'm spinning my wheels here because I don't want 81 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:51.600 to say something that makes it the end of the day. Somebody died and 82 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:58.600 that's really really sad and that's tragic. And obviously this arrest of Scottie Scheffler 83 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:01.079 a felony arrest, by the way, like that's like, that's that's all 84 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:04.360 that anybody's talking about. And I think that's, honestly and as sadd as 85 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:08.199 it is, that's just to be expected. But I think if I would 86 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.959 have been catching up, it would have been I would have just thought, 87 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.360 okay, like what the hell is going on here? Which still that's a 88 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:16.519 fair question. I think a lot of people don't really know how we ended 89 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:19.879 up in that situation. But you know, to know that he was being 90 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:24.319 you know he was he was in the back of a of a police car, 91 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:26.800 and then to hear that, you know, he is going to jail, 92 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:32.279 Like I just expected there to be some level of de escalation from somebody 93 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:39.959 with authority, somebody in charge somebody as a leader, and that obviously never 94 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:43.040 ended up happening. And then once I'll give her credit, I mean, 95 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.439 I know there were a lot of national folks here that are covering the PGA 96 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:47.839 Championship and a lot of local folks here that you know, a lot of 97 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:51.160 you know, like Olivia Russell for way three, she just happened to be 98 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:56.199 the account that I this morning I thought, was you know, putting out 99 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:59.519 fresh updates as good as anybody. And it was her tweet that I saw 100 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:04.959 that actually had the mugshot of Scotti Scheffler, and like that made it real. 101 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:08.279 I mean, I think we all knew it was real and it wasn't 102 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:11.720 a fake. But like I just expected there to be some level of de 103 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:16.240 escalation to where cooler heads would prevail and they would maybe come to the agreement 104 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:20.040 that there was some kind of a misunderstanding and there was some kind of an 105 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:27.000 explanation as to why that transpired whatever truly did transpire, and it never happened. 106 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:30.160 He gets arrested, I mean, charged with assault of a police officer, 107 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:35.160 criminal mischief, reckless driving, disregarding signals from an officer. I mean, 108 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:41.920 and for those who you know and look, I guess I had a 109 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:46.399 plan here as far as where I wanted to start, because again, there's 110 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:48.120 questions that we don't know the answer to that will give us a lot of 111 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:53.279 context as to how this happened. Who's at fault, But it all comes 112 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:58.399 down to do they have a body cam? Was that officer wearing a body 113 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.279 cam? Was it active? That will tell everything, Right, we know 114 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:03.720 what's alleged, we know what's in the in the police report, we know 115 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.399 what the the eyewitness there, who by the way, I mean, I've 116 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:13.240 already forgot the guy's name. I'm about to play his segment that he did 117 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:18.160 on ESPN to kind of give him mean to my knowledgy. He's the only 118 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:20.519 person that you know, I mean, not only does he have a platform, 119 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:24.759 he's a he's a national media member here and again I don't know why 120 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:26.879 I can't think of his name because he doesn't usually cover golf. I think 121 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:31.199 he's like a football guy. But he ended up being there getting video of 122 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:35.120 Scheffler being taken away in handcuffs. Tried to I guess you know Darlington. 123 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.919 Yeah, yeah, that's right. So you know he and there's a lot 124 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.279 of people who claim, well, hey, he saw everything after the fact, 125 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.600 because that is true. Like the video that he shared is after a 126 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:50.240 situation happened. That makes sense John, Like, yes, something had already 127 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:54.200 been done to where he was being taken away handcuffs, so that video does 128 00:08:54.240 --> 00:09:01.120 again show the reaction to something happening. But he also when he describes what 129 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:05.039 happens, he does in fact share I mean, he didn't have his phone 130 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:07.600 out, I guess, but like he you know, he's telling things that 131 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.799 he saw that we later found out was in the police report. So he 132 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:16.480 clearly did see some things. So I think there's a difference in what he's 133 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:18.320 telling people when he's asked about it and he's been interviewed, I'm sure a 134 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.399 bunch of times. But the video, it's two separate things, right, 135 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:26.519 So people who claim, well Darlington he only saw the aftermath, No, 136 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:30.360 he only videoed the aftermath. He saw what was going on. And here 137 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.440 is his description of it from Sports Center earlier this morning. Well, Greeney, 138 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:35.639 as you could see in some of that footage, it was a very 139 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:41.559 chaotic situation this morning, already outside of Valhalla Golf Club as police were responding 140 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:46.919 to his separate incident down the road. It resulted in road closures and ultimately 141 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:54.480 was only a situation where officials and players could get to the point where they 142 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.919 could even approach the Valhalla entrance. But what happened next was certainly surreal. 143 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:03.440 There was a bus that did not have a driver in it that was still 144 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:07.440 sitting outside of the main gate of Valhalla Golf Club. Police were trying to 145 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:11.679 figure out how to get that bus moved. Scotti Scheffler was in a vehicle 146 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.240 too. Behind that bus, Scheffler attempted to drive his car on a road 147 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:24.639 that was jammed with vehicles onto the side medium plenty of space on that median 148 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:30.200 where Scheffler could move his car around toward the entrance. A police officer in 149 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:35.679 a yellow jacket like those ones you're seeing there, approached Scheffler's car told him 150 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:39.799 to stop. Scheffler continued to drive his vehicle, at which point the officer 151 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:48.159 attached himself to Scheffler's car. Scheffler's vehicle then drove another fifteen to twenty yards, 152 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:54.120 making the left into Valhalla Golf Club before coming to a stop. At 153 00:10:54.120 --> 00:11:00.679 that point, the officer took his flashlight and start to bang on Cheffer's car, 154 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.480 telling him to open the window or open the door to get out of 155 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:09.200 the vehicle. Scheffler lowered the window. The officer then ripped the door open, 156 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.720 pulled Scheffler out by the arm, pushed him up against the vehicle, 157 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:20.320 placed him in handcuffs. At that point I approached Scotty Scheffler and the officers. 158 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:26.720 Scheffler turned at me and said, can you help me. The officers 159 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:31.159 then confronted me, told me to step back. I informed them that I 160 00:11:31.240 --> 00:11:33.919 was a member of the media, at which point one officer told me there's 161 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:39.159 nothing you can do. He's going to jail. Another officer then approached me 162 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.759 shortly after with a pad in his hand and said to me, could you 163 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:48.639 please tell us the name of the person that we arrested? So I did 164 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.519 not seem to know that it was Scotti Scheffler, the number one golfer. 165 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:58.360 So that I mean, I feel like the well, I don't know. 166 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:03.799 I sometimes I get myself and trouble thinking that I can accurately gauge, you 167 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:05.759 know, the percentages as far as which side people are on. But I 168 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:09.759 do feel like a lot of people locally are of the belief that this should 169 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.440 have been de escalated, and it didn't need to get to where he was 170 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:18.440 actually taken away and arrested on felony charges. I mean again, that that's 171 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.399 the way I see it. I know plenty of people don't agree with that, 172 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:22.519 but like that seemed to be the you know a lot of what I 173 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:24.840 saw, which is just like, man, he didn't you know, but 174 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:28.840 if you listen to what the reporter there, when's the name began? I 175 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.639 keep forgetting it Darlington? Is it Jeff Darlington? I think it's Jef. 176 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:35.360 Sorry, I need to put some respect on his name because he's I mean, 177 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:39.120 he's the He's been probably the most talked about person outside of Scotti Scheffler 178 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:43.960 when it comes to this situation, because he's he had the video he you 179 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.840 know, that was a three minute cut there and we only played about two 180 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.120 and a half minutes of it. But still I think those who hear him 181 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:54.519 think, like, Wow, the officer over reacted. This didn't need to 182 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:56.600 happen. But I think if you really just listen to the actual details of 183 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:58.759 what went on, I don't know if the officers, I mean, I 184 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.960 don't know if the officer overreacted. I mean, I don't like if if 185 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:05.840 he was told to stop and he didn't. It comes down to did he 186 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:09.200 believe that was a police officer? Right? Did he? You know? 187 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.480 Did he not? I mean Scotty Scheffler hasn't I mean, has he talked 188 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.120 yet. I don't think he's done his pressien put a statement out. They'll 189 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:20.039 mean hope, I don't think it's happened yet. They'll be a press conference 190 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.039 and he's either going to decline to talk about anything, which he probably will. 191 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.279 I'm I would say that the advice of his attorney, but I do 192 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.600 want to try to find that live if we can at some point. But 193 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.759 either way, he doesn't seem and again it's hard to he doesn't actually came 194 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:37.440 out and talked, and body language doesn't say a lot. But he hasn't 195 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.360 seemed very defensive, which is odd to me, Like he doesn't like he 196 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:46.120 didn't fight them. He didn't. He didn't seem upset. He's been cooperative. 197 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.440 He's just has kind of been like whatever about it from what we can 198 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:52.440 tell. And you know, I'm not saying he should be irate, demanding 199 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:54.360 you know that the cops apologize, like he didn't pull the do you know 200 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:58.879 who I am? Right? And Nope, like I don't think anybody like 201 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.440 people who do have the ability to say that, and it may help them 202 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.799 or it may not. Like I cringe when I know of people doing it. 203 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:09.759 Do you know who I am? Like? My dad is this person? 204 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:11.120 Oh? Do you know who I am? Do you know you're talking 205 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.159 to? I cringe because it's even if you are somebody that is a larger 206 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:18.600 than life status in whatever it is you do, you're a celebrity, like 207 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.159 you could probably more often than not improve your situation if you do, in 208 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:26.159 fact tell somebody who you are. Now I think at times it also backfires 209 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:30.440 on you. And what really is hilarious is the people who think that that 210 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:33.440 means something meaning like who they are. And I don't mean like they just 211 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.120 expect somebody to be in all but like, dude, like you're you're not 212 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:37.519 a celebrity. I don't know why you think that them knowing who you are 213 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:43.960 would matter, But I do believe in this instance, if in fact there 214 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:48.320 would have been some level of conversation between both sides after the fact, law 215 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:54.320 enforcement and Scottie Scheffler and maybe even that even maybe even Darlington, if they 216 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:58.120 knew who they were, it wouldn't mean that they fully expect, like they 217 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.519 fully think that they all reacted. It wouldn't be like, Okay, well, 218 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:03.480 we can't do this, because yeah, he did, in fact, 219 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.320 you know, drive his car with a police officer attached to it. Even 220 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.480 if he did attach himself to it would have been a big deal if I 221 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.480 did it. But you know, if if this number one golfer in the 222 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.840 world did it, then we probably need to to, you know, give 223 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:18.200 him a pass. It's not that, but I think if there would have 224 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:22.759 been some level of realization in the heat of the moment, some de escalation, 225 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.279 I think cooler heads would have prevailed and they would have thought, Okay, 226 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:30.320 this is clearly not good, but do we need to proceed the way 227 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:33.480 we are proceeding right now. And I'm not telling you that they would have 228 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:39.120 for sure said no, let's let this guy go, you know, misunderstanding, 229 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:43.480 miscommunication, whatever it may be. But I just, you know, 230 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.840 I choose to believe that there's a good chance that it didn't need to get 231 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:52.000 to this. But I'm also willing to acknowledge I don't know, right I 232 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:56.720 wasn't there. I mean, no clue, and we may find out with 233 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:02.320 bodycam footage or we may not ever, because it doesn't you know, I 234 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:04.559 don't know if they you know, this guy he is a police officer, 235 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:08.879 but he was he's a traffic officer, which, by the way, I 236 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:11.480 can probably do a little looking on my end to figure out what that is. 237 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:17.480 But this guy's LinkedIn. I mean, it lists him as LMPD officer, 238 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:21.120 but it says just traffic, Like does that mean he only works traffic 239 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:25.000 situations? Like? I mean, I'm sure a quick Google search could help 240 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:26.879 me out with that. But it may be to the point where he wouldn't 241 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.320 have bodycam on because he's working traffic, and I don't know, maybe that's 242 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:34.080 I don't know lmpd's protocol as far as like you have to have your body 243 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:37.720 cam on at all times unless you know when you're out on the job, 244 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.759 But if you're just doing traffic, maybe you don't need to have it on. 245 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:44.639 Right. They had the yellow the yellow rain jackets on, would that 246 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:48.600 get in the way of the body cam? Right? So those are questions 247 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:56.200 that to my knowledge have not been answered just yet. But I'm really I 248 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:00.080 don't know. I have more questions for Scheffler than anything, because if he 249 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.160 didn't know that it was a cop. I still don't know if most people 250 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:08.359 would have reacted the way he reacted, but it does change I think how 251 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:11.720 you would respond to somebody that was doing that and trying to stop you, 252 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:18.039 I mean, driving fifteen to twenty yards was somebody? I don't When they 253 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:22.079 say attached, do they mean like on the hood or like hooked up to 254 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:25.839 like the driver's side doors, like holding onto the door while it shut like. 255 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:29.720 I have a lot of questions as to what that really means. But 256 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:33.359 that's a bit again, that's one of the questions we don't know the answer 257 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:37.359 to just yet, and it may just come down to you have to believe 258 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:41.920 somebody like did he know it was a cop? Did the cop identify themselves 259 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:45.920 whenever he when he tried to stop him from driving through? The yellowjacket doesn't 260 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.359 seem to say anything about LMPD or law enforcement on it from when I can 261 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:52.160 gather so again, body cam would tell us a lot of this, but 262 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:57.519 I don't know if they if they have it or not. It's just it's 263 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:03.160 it's a wild, still un believable situation. And here's the obvious reaction for 264 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.200 a lot of folks that aren't really thinking about the specific details to because be 265 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.400 honest with you, like maybe you don't care, right, maybe you're not 266 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:14.319 You're not necessarily looking to take a side. You just know that this is 267 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:17.480 a bad look for Louislle because that's what's it's a black guy for Louisville. 268 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:19.559 Like this is. You know, I talked all week about how, in 269 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:22.160 fact I've talked for weeks now, Wow, we've had a lot of attention 270 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:25.880 on Louisville, and it seems like we're doing really well. Right. The 271 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:30.480 derby one point fifty seemed to be phenomenal. Those here from all across the 272 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.279 world seemed to enjoy it. The race was a great finish. You know, 273 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:37.480 a lot of good momentum, good buzz after the Kentucky Derby, which 274 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:40.160 is a good look on Louisville. And then you have the PGA Championship. 275 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:44.359 Right there was coverage not just locally but nationally about how many fans showed up 276 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:48.880 for the practice rounds and you know, again we talked yesterday to Kent Spencer, 277 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.319 who's been covering it for WHS eleven since last week, and maybe he's 278 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:56.000 a little biased because obviously, you know, he's a Louisville native. This 279 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:57.240 is his market, but he felt like we couldn't have been doing a better 280 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:00.359 job as a city as far as you know, embrace this event, making 281 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:06.200 the PGA feel as if they made the right decision many many many years ago 282 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:11.440 to bring the PGA Championship here. So this incident can't help. But to 283 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:14.480 be honest with you, it sounds like, as we discussed yesterday, the 284 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:17.519 PGA was there was really no way to know if they were ever going to 285 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:21.440 be back here again. And you know, you talk to folks who cover 286 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:25.039 golf, they didn't, but you know, they just expected the PGA to 287 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:27.599 probably go elsewhere with the couple of dates they have available. I guess with 288 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:30.559 venues or I guess, you know, courses they could go to that are 289 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.920 like, you know, fifteen years out or something. So that does suck 290 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:41.599 because it turned into people bringing up the LMPD and the entire Breonna Taylor situation 291 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:47.160 at one point because of all that. If you remember the NBA, this 292 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:51.519 is a story I forgot about. But again, something like this happening gets 293 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:53.960 people talking nationally and they remember, oh, the last time I thought about 294 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:59.839 Louisville having a big sporting event outside of the derby was whenever there were teams 295 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.680 that you know that were in the NBA, teams in certain states and cities 296 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.319 that did not have any plans to lighten their COVID restrictions. Meaning if the 297 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.519 NBA proceeded to play not in the bubble, there are some franchises that may 298 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:15.319 need to move briefly while they're like the Raptors were going to have to move 299 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:19.319 because Canada had no plans to lift restrictions and would never consider letting them play 300 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:23.599 basketball in Toronto. Well, I don't even know if it was a real 301 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:26.039 I mean, it was clearly a story. I don't know how real it 302 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:30.880 was as far as like it was a thing. But Raptors players apparently were 303 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:34.359 all against potentially coming to Louisville if they had to move because of the Breonna 304 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:38.119 Taylor stuff. So it's a bad look for Kentucky, it's a bad look 305 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:42.000 for Louisville. But and I don't think that's debatable. But it all comes 306 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:45.720 down to, like who's it fault for it? Right? If in fact, 307 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:48.680 Scotty Scheffler, you know, even if it's a misunderstanding, he could 308 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.559 still have done something that even after learning it was a misunderstanding, he knows 309 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:57.759 he should not have done. Did it require you know it to get to 310 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:02.759 that level? I don't know, and we may never know. And when 311 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:03.799 I say we may never know, what I mean is it's just gonna come 312 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:07.279 down to who you believe, right. But to be honest with you, 313 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:11.359 I don't mean I don't think anybody's denied what is in the police report? 314 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.799 Have they? I mean I haven't seen any I mean even Steve Romans is 315 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.599 the attorney for for Scheffler. You know, I listened to his brief Q 316 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:23.279 and A outside of the correction metro corrections here downtown, and obviously he's not 317 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:26.480 gonna you know, he mentioned we're gonna let the case proceed. We're gonna 318 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:29.200 do you know he has he's gonna have a court day, this and that. 319 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:33.920 But I mean, you know, he wasn't as if they're I mean, 320 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:40.000 I think he actually described some like here's the thing. There's a lot 321 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.880 of finger pointing about is the cop more it fault for overreacting and just you 322 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:48.039 know, being a you know, not de escalating and just being trying to 323 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:49.559 be a hard ass. Or is Scheffler at fault for thinking he can not 324 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:53.079 listen to a cop because he's number and golfer in the world. Like that, 325 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:56.559 that I feel like is what a lot of people are you know decided 326 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:00.160 there? Are you pro L and PD doing the right thing and making an 327 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:02.720 example out of somebody who thinks they can get away with something because of their 328 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:07.240 status. Or is Scheffler a victim of a cop that's you know, a 329 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:11.799 tyrant or something like that. But if you listen to everything that's out there, 330 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:18.000 rather it be the police report, the the play by play, we 331 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:23.079 essentially just heard from Darlington and I think even the you know, like nobody's 332 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:26.920 denied anything. Maybe you wait till you have your hearing. I think he's 333 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.519 supposed to be in court on Tuesday, So I'm not really sure. There's 334 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:33.000 a whole lot. I mean again, what we really want to know is, 335 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:34.359 Okay, when are we gonna get body cam footage? Because that'll at 336 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:37.319 least give us a better you know, that'll show us exactly what happened. 337 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:41.960 Also, did he know it was a cop? He hasn't denied that he 338 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:44.359 that he didn't you know, we don't know. And you know he went 339 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:48.960 straight from L ANDPD corrections to Valhalla to play golf. So like there hasn't 340 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:51.000 probably been a whole lot of time for him to give any answers, in 341 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:53.640 probably because of his attorney. He won't answer any questions. And if my 342 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:57.279 attorney told me that, I would do the same thing. Before we get 343 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:00.079 to a break, I want to say this because this is just this is 344 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:06.079 the ultimate event, or this is the ultimate situation. That just is just 345 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:08.319 to you know, you can find this reminder any time you try hard enough 346 00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:12.319 to look for it. We are so divided as a country that without knowing 347 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:19.240 facts, without knowing important details that could give you a better ability to decide 348 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:23.920 on your own individually, with your mind, what you think of the situation, 349 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:26.240 who you might feel is more at fault, or maybe you feel like, 350 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.079 hey, this was truly just a misunderstanding from both sides, and you 351 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:37.440 know it's unfortunate. But because we are programmed at times here in twenty twenty 352 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:41.200 four and for many years now to just automatically say, no, matter what 353 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:44.400 happens, I'm going to support the police and assume that they did nothing wrong 354 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:48.680 because that's my party, that's the way I lean, that's my side of 355 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:53.119 the aisle. And then there's others that again, not getting all the information 356 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:57.599 facts. They just assumed that this LMPD officer is a bad cop that wanted 357 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:03.359 to abuse as authority. People have already decided which one it is, without 358 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.839 any conflicting details of the event and without any full proof of who knew what 359 00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.839 was really going on. And that sucks, but that's I'm not surprised. 360 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:17.200 That's how it's been for many many years now in this country. Right, 361 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:22.440 you didn't know anything for sure, But because law enforcement's involved and there's some 362 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.359 criticism their way, there's some that just say, well, hey, this 363 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:27.039 guy think he can get away with that because he's a golfer. I mean 364 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:30.640 maybe, but you don't know that, right, And then there's others that 365 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:34.880 just assume a LMPD these guys got the badge. They think they're badasses, 366 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:38.799 like without knowing. There's people who probably didn't even hear that account from Darlington. 367 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:42.720 They didn't see the video he posted, they didn't know. They just 368 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:48.440 saw that this guy trying to enter the course was arrested and they just assumed 369 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:53.160 that it's bad cop, a poor police job, or poor I guess poor 370 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:57.000 job by the police. So I just that's I shouldn't say. It fascinates 371 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:02.000 me because it sucks. But like a lot of folks in this country, 372 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.599 in society, have lost the ability to think for themselves. They just default 373 00:25:04.640 --> 00:25:07.920 to whatever they whatever they feel is what the the you know, those that 374 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:14.279 share the same beliefs that they have are going to align with. So one 375 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:15.559 thing I don't know if I've mentioned, because I've just been rambling here, 376 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:25.359 this is another key factor that would explain why he at least tried to bypass 377 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:29.640 this this you know, this officer that he may not have known as an 378 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:37.519 officer. Other golfers in similar vehicles, I guess, were successfully able to 379 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:41.240 do exactly what Scottie Scheffler was trying to do. That's according to everybody involved. 380 00:25:42.200 --> 00:25:45.480 So does that mean again, even if they even if you were able 381 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.799 to do it, I'm sorry they were able to do it. And then 382 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.240 you were stopped and you knew it was a police officer and he stopped you, 383 00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:53.279 and you still just try to keep driving, like you know what, 384 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.720 you can't do that. I mean, I don't know if you tried to 385 00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:02.599 hurt anybody, but like that's just something nobody you do. All right, 386 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:06.480 If you guy thoughts, feel free to share, because I know a lot 387 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:10.039 of people have opinions on this FABBO two five seven seventy nine nine. It 388 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:11.079 is the number if you want to give us a call. Tax line. 389 00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:15.279 FABO two six five three zero seven ninety. That is the Ellenn Federal Credit 390 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.279 Union text line. It's Coffee and Company, and we are fueled by Thornton's 391 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.880 right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. That's right, Coffee and Company rolling 392 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:26.440 along here on a Friday afternoon, fueled by Thornton's. Make sure you sign 393 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:29.519 up to become a member of the Thornton's Refreshman Awards program if you haven't already. 394 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.640 All right, So a couple of things to add here that, uh, 395 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.640 you know, I'm sure by now people have realized this, just because 396 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:41.000 I feel like since this happened early this morning, it's really been all anybody's 397 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:42.400 been kind of talking about here locally. I'm sure that's not the case, 398 00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.960 but it just seems that way, certainly when it comes to the news wire 399 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.720 nationally and locally. It's a big it's a big conversation. Colin Cowhard actually 400 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:52.759 talked about it earlier. I mean, everybody's talking about it, but he 401 00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:56.599 I think he led his show discussing it, and he brought up something that 402 00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:03.240 was definitely what Colin Cowherd typically does is he will throw out an opinion and 403 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:04.480 that's why he you know, maybe he's not your cup of tea, but 404 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:08.480 he'll throw out an opinion that you wouldn't have thought of, and it may 405 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.599 sound initially like what he talking about it, and then you'll you'll hear a 406 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:17.079 monologue and you'll at least be thinking of what his thoughts are. Right. 407 00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:18.920 You may not agree with it, but he'll get you thinking. That's what 408 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.440 Colin's great. But he mentioned that Louisville shouldn't be to blame here, that 409 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:30.039 the PGA should be taking some accountability here because there should be better security for 410 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:34.279 someone like Scotty, like to where he you know, he's not driving himself, 411 00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.240 there's somebody else and like they can let you know he shouldn't have been 412 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.799 in that situation. It doesn't excuse like if he did, in fact knowingly, 413 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:47.039 you know, try to drive with a cop attached to his car, 414 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.200 even if the cop was overreacting, like, you still can't do that. 415 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.519 But you know, I think his exact quote was, and I'll see if 416 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.960 I can track down the clip. They usually clip a lot of his show 417 00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.400 on social pretty quickly, and I don't know if this this specific talking would 418 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.799 have made the cut to make it to social media, but here's the quote 419 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.720 that was shared at least on Twitter without the sound. Don't blame Louisville, 420 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:11.160 Blame the PGA. There's better security for an NFL broadcast team than the number 421 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:15.119 one golfer in the world. I don't know if that's just golf being clearly 422 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.880 different than every sport in variety of ways, and that's one of the things 423 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.240 that golfers just, you know, it's just it's different. You know, 424 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.519 as much as Scottie Schiffler is the number one golfer in the world, if 425 00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:29.359 he was walking around in Louisville this week be spotted by many people because you 426 00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:30.799 know, he's number one golfer in the world, and they are probably people 427 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.680 that are just here because of the event. But you know, it's not 428 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.000 like, you know, the number one basketball player in the world. I'm 429 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:38.960 not saying that this is the case right now, but like Lebron, like 430 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:44.039 clearly he would have a different level of you know, security, that kind 431 00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:49.839 of stuff. So yeah, I mean, I'm sure the PGA won't take 432 00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:53.440 a whole lot of accountability here, and I'm just going to assume that they 433 00:28:53.440 --> 00:29:00.480 probably are less than pleased with how the morning went. And I'd shocked if 434 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.839 they're going to put much blame on on, you know, on their guy. 435 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.720 So a couple of things to clear up, because we did have some 436 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:14.680 people in the text line mentioning this earlier that the officers were clearly trying to 437 00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:18.839 make a point and be aggressive by throwing him in the jumpsuit. I don't 438 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.640 know why that became such a thing. Like I saw people who I know 439 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:26.000 that work in in you know, this market as a media member that you 440 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.680 know, made claims that they used to track the police wire often and that 441 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:34.200 you know, they were always checking muck shots to see if somebody of note 442 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.319 got arrest or if there's a crime with details that might be worthy of making 443 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.440 the news. And they, you know, they indicated that they usually didn't 444 00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:47.000 see anybody in a like in a in a jumpsuit or something like that. 445 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:52.519 And if you go look at like the actual like you know, the government 446 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:59.200 database where it shows people being booked in and it shows their mugshots, everybody 447 00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:00.920 that was arrested before him, and everybody that was arrested after him. There 448 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.359 were a few people this morning that came in I guess after him and were 449 00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.039 processed later. They all got mugshots and they were all wearing a yellow or 450 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.599 orange jumpsuit, so they didn't throw the orange on him to make a point 451 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:12.799 like, hey, you criminal, you think you can get away with it 452 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:18.559 because you're a golfer. That appears to be standard protocol. Also, this 453 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.759 is something that's a little mean, like, you know, his charge is 454 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.200 you know, not been dropped, and it you know, if it is 455 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:27.640 dropped, it won't be until I suppose they get to you know, I 456 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.640 don't know. I guess a judge can step in and do something. But 457 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.000 he was charged with a felony. And again we're talking about, you know, 458 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:41.240 assault on a police officer. So nobody else like he's already, he 459 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:48.559 already has actually received preferential treatment. Nobody else that gets arrested and booked for 460 00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.680 charge with assault of a police officer a felony is getting out within minutes of 461 00:30:52.720 --> 00:31:00.119 being booked. Nobody he was. Now some are trying to weaponize that againstlaw 462 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.319 enforcement, the cops, and saying that's them admitting they messed up. They 463 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:07.279 realize now they arrested this larger than life celebrity. They should have de escalated. 464 00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.759 They and they may think they screwed up, but him getting out has 465 00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.680 nothing to do with LMPD. A judge decides that situation. Law enforcement cops 466 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.880 don't decide if he can get in and get out. I mean, I'm 467 00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:22.279 not a lawyer, but I've watched enough law in order to be dangerous here. 468 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.400 I mean, in all seriousness, that was a poor joke anyway, 469 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.799 wasn't funny, But like, that's pretty that's pretty obvious, isn't it. 470 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:33.480 Like the officer who arrests you doesn't decide you know your bail or anything like 471 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.160 that. It's usually a judge, I would assume. So, yeah, 472 00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:42.000 he clearly did get some preferential treatment, But I don't think it means that 473 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:48.519 LMPD is going to review things and say they messed up. I'm fine with 474 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:55.920 saying, like, here's what I'll say. I choose to believe that this 475 00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.160 thing could have been de escalated to where it didn't turn into this. But 476 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:04.799 I'm also will to say there are some important details that I think will at 477 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:09.039 least give some more context too for me to kind of feel like who I 478 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:16.480 think is more in the right or in the wrong. And nationally, and 479 00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:20.480 I don't mean just like people around town that are bummed that this is a 480 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:25.160 bad look on the city and that this could keep other big events from coming 481 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:31.920 here. I'm talking nationally. It's all everybody just blaming l and PD and 482 00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:36.279 they're just of the of the belief that the that that you know, that 483 00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:39.160 LMPD did, you know, clearly just overreacted and they and they may have, 484 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:45.240 but I'm you know, and I am a little biased. I am 485 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.799 you know. I know Craig Greenberg, I was I've worked for him before 486 00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:53.200 he ever became mayor, and I love Craig. And everybody that claims, 487 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:57.880 you know, he should have been involved. I mean, do you want 488 00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.079 to get involved on something like that when you when you don't have all the 489 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.799 facts and things haven't come out yet, and then you're gonna stay Like imagine 490 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.400 if Scotty Scheffler said like horrific things and like was the ultimate a hole and 491 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:13.279 disrespected law enforcement and threatened him or something like that. I don't believe he 492 00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.119 did, but I'm just saying, if he did that, and the mayor 493 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:20.079 of this city just happens to get win that LNPD is trying to arrest him, 494 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:23.640 and he just tells them to stop. And then later it's clear that 495 00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.759 he deserved to be arrested, Like, you can't do that. You know, 496 00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.160 he wasn't there either, and you know it's the mayor. You're gonna 497 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.799 even if you have to, even if after the fact you realize that you 498 00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:38.519 know, law enforcement these guys who you know, technically, I guess you 499 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:43.839 employ, right. I mean, if they did something wrong, then down 500 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:47.200 the line you can address it and take action and right those wrongs and do 501 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.960 whatever you gotta do. But before you know that, it's just I mean, 502 00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:52.319 I think it would have been a really really bad look. And this 503 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.079 is what's crazy to me. I think it would have been a really really 504 00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.799 bad look for the allegations to be what they are and him to just get 505 00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.759 a pass. But yeah, I feel like nationally, and you know, 506 00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:06.799 maybe even the majority here locally, that's what everybody wanted to have happened, 507 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.159 just because it just you know, and again, I know I did mention 508 00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:14.519 it before we went to our first break, and I probably waited too long 509 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:19.599 to mention it. But a big factor here is that others were doing the 510 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.559 same thing Scottie Scheffler tried to do. Why he was stopped. That's something 511 00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:28.400 that only the officer, who you know, claimed to be injured was could 512 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:34.480 answer. And what do you think John about this? Just this specific component 513 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:38.960 and we'll get to the phone lines in just a second. If he knowing 514 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.360 or not knowing if it's a cop is really important, would you agree with 515 00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.719 that? Yes? But even if it's not, why would you do that? 516 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.960 That's what I can't understand. Why would he continue to Yeah, move 517 00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.599 forward? Yes, no matter who it is, like just either like stop 518 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:54.000 the car and call the cops yourself, you know what I'm saying, Like, 519 00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.760 no matter who it is, if they're attached to your even if they're 520 00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.800 in the wrong and they jump on your car because they're trying to attack you, 521 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:01.960 you know, if you're trying to defend yourself, then maybe you would 522 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.280 drive to try to get him off your car. Maybe he was scared. 523 00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.639 I don't know for us. I'm being dead serious, That's probably what I 524 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.960 would have done if I didn't know it was an officer. I don't want 525 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.920 somebody trying because if you but it's not a stranger, it's somebody working in 526 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.559 some capacity like there's no bad Yeah, that's that's true, Because that's true. 527 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:21.639 He didn't think it was some rando like celebrity stalker that was trying to 528 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.559 like, you know, ambush him. It was clearly somebody that was working 529 00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.039 and so like to me, and again I can't read his mind. I 530 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.039 don't know he knew it was either a cop or he knew it was somebody 531 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:34.199 working traffic in that situation. To to you know, it wasn't like, 532 00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:37.039 what's this person doing here? Clearly they're they're they're conducting traffic. Now do 533 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.639 you know, should they have stopped you? Doesn't sound like it because again 534 00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:44.239 others were apparently allowed to do what he tried to do and he wasn't, 535 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.039 and it turned into this but I just driving, you know, again, 536 00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:51.400 this is this, This is the account that Darlington gave. Driving fifteen to 537 00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.480 twenty yards with anybody attached to your vehicle, to me, just doesn't make 538 00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:59.320 any sense unless you think they were trying to harm you. But I just 539 00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:00.239 have a hard time thing thinking that he would believe he was going to be 540 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.920 harmed whenever it was quite clear law enforcement or not, it was somebody there 541 00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.679 trying to conduct trying to guide traffic. And another component here that is rather 542 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:15.920 obvious is that it was a very highly stressful, highly intense situation regardless of 543 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.800 Scheffler's involvement, because somebody had just died. There was something, I mean, 544 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:23.840 somebody was killed in an accident. So does that mean that you know, 545 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:27.920 they should overreact. No, but like that's also something that shouldn't be 546 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.760 ignored that whoever's out there working in that, you know, especially if it's 547 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:36.719 law enforcement, like they've got somebody dead, and I mean, yes, 548 00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:37.880 there is an investigation. I think it was quite clear that it was a 549 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.480 tragic accident where one of the buses had hit somebody in the road. But 550 00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:46.079 it's still an investigation where you need everybody to do whatever you're saying because it's 551 00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:50.719 that serious. Now, maybe he didn't know, like Scheffler didn't know that 552 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:52.920 had happened. It sounds like that's what its attorney was saying, I believe, 553 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:58.719 and maybe the others that were able to do that like got in before 554 00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:02.000 the accident happened. So again, as I said, to start to show 555 00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.760 there are some things that like we may never know the full truth, right, 556 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:08.079 it may just come down to this guy's word or that guy's word. 557 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.599 Bodycam footage would absolutely tell us a lot more about the situation and give us 558 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:15.920 context to where I think it could. It could help us, you know, 559 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.280 I guess, And again doesn't matter, right, Like, obviously it's 560 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.519 gonna he'll probably I don't know if he's gonna have any charges drop, but 561 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:22.960 I doubt he's gonna be. He's not gonna be in like major trouble. 562 00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:28.000 But either way, Like, although there's things we don't know, and I 563 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.440 think there's some you know, again, I would love to see bodycam footage 564 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.519 just to see exactly how it turned into that so quickly whenever you know, 565 00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.800 just this is a guy who who is as clean as a whistle according to 566 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:39.880 those that cover golf. Doesn't mean you should get away with doing anything, 567 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:44.679 but like it just is so uncharacteristic. So but but I say all that 568 00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:50.280 to say what we do know. Details in the police report, the details 569 00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:57.800 that are coming from Jeff Darlington, and the brief you know, statement that 570 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:02.360 we've got from his attorney. Nobody who's talking about the event. He's sharing 571 00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:07.079 wildly different stories. Now maybe we maybe they will in court and we get 572 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:12.079 there, but I think we kind of know what happened, to be honest, 573 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:15.679 But again it comes down to did he know it was law enforcement and 574 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:20.719 did the cop instead of just having a conversation, just try to, you 575 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:22.920 know, break his windows. So then he took off Like those are details 576 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.519 that matter. But again there's no body can footage. This is gonna come 577 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:30.039 down to who you believe. All right, let's go to the phone line. 578 00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:34.440 Five two, five nine hundred is the number. Let's welcome in, 579 00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:37.320 Nino. Nino. How are you, sir, hey man, thanks for 580 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:42.599 thanking my call. Yeah, I've seen it this morning and my cousin called 581 00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.199 me. He said, he said the same thing you said. I've never 582 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:50.079 met anybody get at within minute. It's Friday. If it was me and 583 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:53.039 you to get arrested, we probably ain't getting that some Monday May, oh 584 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:58.360 for sure, especially on that kind of change. Yeah, So I said 585 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:00.960 if I said, well, I don't have a problem with him getting that 586 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:06.760 in minutes, because well, first of all, he's the number one golfer 587 00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.159 in the world. I know it sounds like special privilege, but you got 588 00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:15.440 the right type of attorney. You're a celebrity, Yeah, and there's certain 589 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.840 you know, precautions and things you have to take when dealing with a high 590 00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:23.159 profile I don't want to call him a prisoner, you know, but a 591 00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:30.639 high profile person coming into the correctional facility, I think special measurements and special 592 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:36.360 things would have to happen, just like like when President Trump had to go 593 00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.039 to court, you got to do special stuff. I mean, I can't 594 00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:43.079 treat him like me and you. I mean, it is what it is. 595 00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:50.880 It sucks exactly this man is getting ready to play. I'm sure his 596 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.800 attorney argued, hey, for a living, he plays golf for a living, 597 00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:59.239 and he's in town for one of the biggest and I think there's enough 598 00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:00.239 out there about him him to it. Just to be clear, like, 599 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.960 I don't I'm not saying that he should not have been released. I'm just 600 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.440 stating the fact that that, you know, like anybody who thinks that that 601 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:09.360 means that the cops feel like they made they made a mistake. I just 602 00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:12.480 don't think you could come to that conclusion, because again, I don't think 603 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.840 it's the cops that were involved that let that happen. And clearly he's not 604 00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:19.440 a threat to society. He's not a I mean, he's so trust me, 605 00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.400 I don't I don't want to make anybody think that I'm saying, well, 606 00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:22.840 uh, they should have kept him in there. No, but I 607 00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:24.960 don't think it should have ever got there. But again, I'm willing to 608 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.639 acknowledge that there's some details that that will have to wait and see, you 609 00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.760 know, some specifics to really know. Yeah, hanging on the car thing, 610 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.199 I'm like, boy, what kind of movie scene was that? I 611 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.159 wish I could have seen that, man. Yeah, and I'm glad nobody 612 00:40:38.239 --> 00:40:40.559 was urt. No, yeah, thank you. I appreciate the call, 613 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:44.920 Neino. And look when it comes to like, I just don't know how 614 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.239 it got there. Like it's just for it to escalate that much. I 615 00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.239 mean, it is law enforcements, you know. I mean their main job 616 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:53.920 is to protect and serve, right, But like the escalation is something that 617 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:59.719 cops should exercise, you know. You know, That's what I believe. 618 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.800 And was there any attempt to that? Was there even no thought to do 619 00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:07.960 that because of the seriousness of the accident that had someone killed, Like, 620 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:13.840 you know, I just really want body cam footage, and I feel like 621 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:15.320 if they had it, we wouldn't have it in front of us right now. 622 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:17.000 But I feel like we kind of know if it was like, if 623 00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:21.679 it was coming. Somebody did make a good point earlier that the day after 624 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:24.920 the tragic mass shooting that took place at the old National Bank, the day 625 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:28.840 after every we all saw the body cam footage, so like, if it 626 00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:30.599 was on, it wouldn't be crazy tough to get to it. I don't 627 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:34.719 know. It could be that it's just their protocol that in those situations when 628 00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:37.039 a cop is working traffic, it's not required to be on. And clearly 629 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.400 there's been many times where it was supposed to be on and humm, looks 630 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:44.000 like I didn't have it on. It looks like it wasn't working. All 631 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:45.760 right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side right here on 632 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:46.400 Sports Talk seven night. If you're on hole, we'll get to you on 633 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:52.159 the other side. We have a very little time left here in the three 634 00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.480 o'clock hour clock. Management not always my strong suit, certainly not today, 635 00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:59.639 but for those that have been holding, you can stick with us and we 636 00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:00.960 will get to the person here that has been holding the longest, and that 637 00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:05.480 is Chris, who wants to share his thoughts on which you would expect somebody 638 00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.239 would be wanting to share thoughts on today. The situation this morning was Scotti 639 00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.159 Scheffler, the number one golfer in the world, on his way to uh 640 00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:15.079 Day two of the PGA Championship at Valhalla, arrested taking a jail on some 641 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.599 you know, multiple charges, including one felony. It just again, saying 642 00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.039 it out loud does not seem in any way real, but it really did 643 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:24.440 happen. All right, let's go to Chris. Chris, you're on Sports 644 00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:28.880 Talk seven ninety. How are you hey, I'm going good man, How 645 00:42:28.920 --> 00:42:31.519 you guys do it? Not too bad? First of all, you know, 646 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:37.559 let's keep this gentleman's family that was killed this morning in or you know, 647 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:44.599 our prayers. Sure absolutely, bus driver most certainly he's traumatized. Now 648 00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:47.320 my points, I got a couple of points here. A lot of this 649 00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:54.039 is on the PGA and Louisville itself. Why if we had to have workers 650 00:42:54.079 --> 00:43:00.920 there early hours in the morning, that stretch of the road really dark speed 651 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:05.599 livers what forty five? Yeah, and it sounds like turning left onto like 652 00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.880 into traffic is just like a nightmare scenario. That's, you know, before 653 00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:14.280 everything happened today that people have been complaining about when it comes to Valhalla and 654 00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:15.840 how this thing is, you know, organized, I guess as far as 655 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.039 just getting people into the event, right, So I mean, you know 656 00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.599 you were thought about it probably gonna happen tomorrow. They'll probably be security after 657 00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:30.320 tomorrow. Directed traffic at four o'clock in the morning. Now, this incident 658 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:36.039 happened what around five I don't know the exact time, something like that, 659 00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:40.599 very early in the morning for sure. Yeah, well I got on the 660 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:45.719 five am news. Whole stretch of chevy By Road was closed down. But 661 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:52.239 so let's get to the Scotti getting arrested. Now, he got in and 662 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:59.360 out in about an hour and he was released with a no R. How 663 00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:06.719 does that even happen? Loubal lawyer already be there. Yeah, in got 664 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:09.320 god, Chris, I appreciate the call. We got to get to a 665 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:12.400 break here. But I will say really quickly, I would say that, 666 00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:15.719 you know, the one of the owners of the of the course, one 667 00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:20.920 of the owners of Valhalla was was with Scheffler when he left in the suv, 668 00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:25.000 meaning left Corrections to come back to Valhalla. I would imagine that somebody, 669 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.400 maybe the gentleman who was one of the owners of the course, reached 670 00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:31.559 out to Steve Romans who is his attorney, and they were able to make 671 00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.800 some calls to make it to where, yes, he is going to get 672 00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.880 he's been charged, he's going to be processed. He's going to jail, 673 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:38.800 but he can get out. Really, he can get out, you know, 674 00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:42.480 quickly. He was released on his own recognant, So you know, 675 00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:44.679 it wasn't as if, you know, they didn't see him as a threat, 676 00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:46.639 but they did feel that he needed to actually come down and be processed 677 00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:52.679 because of the seriousness of the charges. So yeah, I don't know what 678 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:54.079 was done to make it to where he could get in and out that quickly, 679 00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:59.679 but most people would not be out at all. They'd still be sitting 680 00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.480 in jail because of how serious it was. So uh, you know, 681 00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:07.639 it's it's it's not ideal, but it's it's it's it's life. It's not 682 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.519 something that you should like maybe be happy about or maybe maybe you don't care, 683 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.719 but like certain people get different treatment than others. That's that's life. 684 00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:16.480 I don't see that ever changing, to be honest with you. All right, 685 00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:21.320 quick break, We've got some sound from the from the press conference that 686 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.119 I guess was that happened here not too long ago. That we'll share with 687 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.000 you and I'll let you guys continue to react. I'm sorry we had to 688 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:29.159 cut you silk short there, Chris. We're up against it, but we 689 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:30.559 got two more hours left to stick with us right here on Sports Talk seven ninety