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Now? Here's Nick Coffee. Over the many years that I've been employed here
at iHeartMedia on Sports Talk seven ninety, I know I've mentioned many times my
fascination with dreams. I don't know why we have dreams, meaning like why
they happen at all. I don't know why we have the things occur in
our dreams that we have occur, but it fascinates me. And today,
I think it was about seven oh six, I woke up and realized that
my son he wanted more milk. It's a normal thing, but I'm usually
sleepwalking as I leave the bedroom to go to the kitchen and our TV.
You know this is my roots sine, I fall asleep out there on the
recliner or the couch. Usually it's on ESPN Sports Center, and I just
don't sometimes don't even remember getting up in the middle of the night to go
to bed because I'm just you know, sleepwalking. So at about seven o
six I walk to the kitchen. TV's on and Sports Center is covering live
the PGA Championship of course at Valhalla, and right there on the you know,
not full screen, but you know, they're a little bottom graphic there
says two things, Scotti Scheffler currently being detained by law and by police,
LMPD, police, whatever it may be. And then it says that somebody
is dead, like they've postponed everything because somebody was tragically killed. Not a
lot of details, I think at that point, at least not that I
could see on ESPN. And I thought to myself for a brief second,
you're not awake yet. You think you've woke up, you think that you
know you're starting your day, but it's just you having a dream. And
then sure enough, I guess I came to and realized, no, this
is real, and it just is. It's still many many hours later,
it's you can't make it up. The guy leading the PGA Championship yesterday here
in Louisville at Valhalla, number one golfer in the world is arrested and taken
to jail. You know, at that time, you didn't know if it
was going to get to that point, but sure enough, like you saw
the video and everybody saw the video, and that was I mean, I'm
glad that video does exist. But I will say this, as much as
it's been shared millions upon millions of times, it still doesn't tell us what
I think you would need to know to really, you know, make your
own assessment of of you know, what you think about the situation and like
who's in the wrong. And we may never get all of that information.
I hope we do. But today sucks overall for everybody involved. Just a
tragic situation where somebody, a volunteer, lost their life. Just very very
sad, and that's I mean, that's a true tragedy and everybody traumatized.
Who was on the shuttle that hit the I mean, and I'm sure they
knew at that point what had happened. Just a horrific situation. But thoughts
and prayers to the person who lost their life after being hit out right outside
the course earlier today, But then I guess I can't say it's a surprise.
All attention shifted to the situation with Scheffler, and it's crazy. I
mean, I still can't. It still doesn't seem like something that really happened,
but it did, and we'll talk about it today. It is coffee
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for the rest of the day, which is unfortunate. But I guess they've
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that dangerous. But uh yeah, rainy Friday afternoon not a great way to
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just start John. You and I haven't talked at all today about this.
When I mean were you were you up and following or did you wake up
to find what? Had you know? To transpire? A ESPN notification,
a Fox Sports notification of just said Scottie Scheffler going to jail something like that
was very you know, clickbaity, as you might think, and I click
on it and I'm like, this is I was awake enough to process it,
but just not realize like what the hell happened kind of thing. Yeah,
and it it's I don't think. I mean, I'm really happy that
I shouldn't say happy, but I'm spinning my wheels here because I don't want
to say something that makes it the end of the day. Somebody died and
that's really really sad and that's tragic. And obviously this arrest of Scottie Scheffler
a felony arrest, by the way, like that's like, that's that's all
that anybody's talking about. And I think that's, honestly and as sadd as
it is, that's just to be expected. But I think if I would
have been catching up, it would have been I would have just thought,
okay, like what the hell is going on here? Which still that's a
fair question. I think a lot of people don't really know how we ended
up in that situation. But you know, to know that he was being
you know he was he was in the back of a of a police car,
and then to hear that, you know, he is going to jail,
Like I just expected there to be some level of de escalation from somebody
with authority, somebody in charge somebody as a leader, and that obviously never
ended up happening. And then once I'll give her credit, I mean,
I know there were a lot of national folks here that are covering the PGA
Championship and a lot of local folks here that you know, a lot of
you know, like Olivia Russell for way three, she just happened to be
the account that I this morning I thought, was you know, putting out
fresh updates as good as anybody. And it was her tweet that I saw
that actually had the mugshot of Scotti Scheffler, and like that made it real.
I mean, I think we all knew it was real and it wasn't
a fake. But like I just expected there to be some level of de
escalation to where cooler heads would prevail and they would maybe come to the agreement
that there was some kind of a misunderstanding and there was some kind of an
explanation as to why that transpired whatever truly did transpire, and it never happened.
He gets arrested, I mean, charged with assault of a police officer,
criminal mischief, reckless driving, disregarding signals from an officer. I mean,
and for those who you know and look, I guess I had a
plan here as far as where I wanted to start, because again, there's
questions that we don't know the answer to that will give us a lot of
context as to how this happened. Who's at fault, But it all comes
down to do they have a body cam? Was that officer wearing a body
cam? Was it active? That will tell everything, Right, we know
what's alleged, we know what's in the in the police report, we know
what the the eyewitness there, who by the way, I mean, I've
already forgot the guy's name. I'm about to play his segment that he did
on ESPN to kind of give him mean to my knowledgy. He's the only
person that you know, I mean, not only does he have a platform,
he's a he's a national media member here and again I don't know why
I can't think of his name because he doesn't usually cover golf. I think
he's like a football guy. But he ended up being there getting video of
Scheffler being taken away in handcuffs. Tried to I guess you know Darlington.
Yeah, yeah, that's right. So you know he and there's a lot
of people who claim, well, hey, he saw everything after the fact,
because that is true. Like the video that he shared is after a
situation happened. That makes sense John, Like, yes, something had already
been done to where he was being taken away handcuffs, so that video does
again show the reaction to something happening. But he also when he describes what
happens, he does in fact share I mean, he didn't have his phone
out, I guess, but like he you know, he's telling things that
he saw that we later found out was in the police report. So he
clearly did see some things. So I think there's a difference in what he's
telling people when he's asked about it and he's been interviewed, I'm sure a
bunch of times. But the video, it's two separate things, right,
So people who claim, well Darlington he only saw the aftermath, No,
he only videoed the aftermath. He saw what was going on. And here
is his description of it from Sports Center earlier this morning. Well, Greeney,
as you could see in some of that footage, it was a very
chaotic situation this morning, already outside of Valhalla Golf Club as police were responding
to his separate incident down the road. It resulted in road closures and ultimately
was only a situation where officials and players could get to the point where they
could even approach the Valhalla entrance. But what happened next was certainly surreal.
There was a bus that did not have a driver in it that was still
sitting outside of the main gate of Valhalla Golf Club. Police were trying to
figure out how to get that bus moved. Scotti Scheffler was in a vehicle
too. Behind that bus, Scheffler attempted to drive his car on a road
that was jammed with vehicles onto the side medium plenty of space on that median
where Scheffler could move his car around toward the entrance. A police officer in
a yellow jacket like those ones you're seeing there, approached Scheffler's car told him
to stop. Scheffler continued to drive his vehicle, at which point the officer
attached himself to Scheffler's car. Scheffler's vehicle then drove another fifteen to twenty yards,
making the left into Valhalla Golf Club before coming to a stop. At
that point, the officer took his flashlight and start to bang on Cheffer's car,
telling him to open the window or open the door to get out of
the vehicle. Scheffler lowered the window. The officer then ripped the door open,
pulled Scheffler out by the arm, pushed him up against the vehicle,
placed him in handcuffs. At that point I approached Scotty Scheffler and the officers.
Scheffler turned at me and said, can you help me. The officers
then confronted me, told me to step back. I informed them that I
was a member of the media, at which point one officer told me there's
nothing you can do. He's going to jail. Another officer then approached me
shortly after with a pad in his hand and said to me, could you
please tell us the name of the person that we arrested? So I did
not seem to know that it was Scotti Scheffler, the number one golfer.
So that I mean, I feel like the well, I don't know.
I sometimes I get myself and trouble thinking that I can accurately gauge, you
know, the percentages as far as which side people are on. But I
do feel like a lot of people locally are of the belief that this should
have been de escalated, and it didn't need to get to where he was
actually taken away and arrested on felony charges. I mean again, that that's
the way I see it. I know plenty of people don't agree with that,
but like that seemed to be the you know a lot of what I
saw, which is just like, man, he didn't you know, but
if you listen to what the reporter there, when's the name began? I
keep forgetting it Darlington? Is it Jeff Darlington? I think it's Jef.
Sorry, I need to put some respect on his name because he's I mean,
he's the He's been probably the most talked about person outside of Scotti Scheffler
when it comes to this situation, because he's he had the video he you
know, that was a three minute cut there and we only played about two
and a half minutes of it. But still I think those who hear him
think, like, Wow, the officer over reacted. This didn't need to
happen. But I think if you really just listen to the actual details of
what went on, I don't know if the officers, I mean, I
don't know if the officer overreacted. I mean, I don't like if if
he was told to stop and he didn't. It comes down to did he
believe that was a police officer? Right? Did he? You know?
Did he not? I mean Scotty Scheffler hasn't I mean, has he talked
yet. I don't think he's done his pressien put a statement out. They'll
mean hope, I don't think it's happened yet. They'll be a press conference
and he's either going to decline to talk about anything, which he probably will.
I'm I would say that the advice of his attorney, but I do
want to try to find that live if we can at some point. But
either way, he doesn't seem and again it's hard to he doesn't actually came
out and talked, and body language doesn't say a lot. But he hasn't
seemed very defensive, which is odd to me, Like he doesn't like he
didn't fight them. He didn't. He didn't seem upset. He's been cooperative.
He's just has kind of been like whatever about it from what we can
tell. And you know, I'm not saying he should be irate, demanding
you know that the cops apologize, like he didn't pull the do you know
who I am? Right? And Nope, like I don't think anybody like
people who do have the ability to say that, and it may help them
or it may not. Like I cringe when I know of people doing it.
Do you know who I am? Like? My dad is this person?
Oh? Do you know who I am? Do you know you're talking
to? I cringe because it's even if you are somebody that is a larger
than life status in whatever it is you do, you're a celebrity, like
you could probably more often than not improve your situation if you do, in
fact tell somebody who you are. Now I think at times it also backfires
on you. And what really is hilarious is the people who think that that
means something meaning like who they are. And I don't mean like they just
expect somebody to be in all but like, dude, like you're you're not
a celebrity. I don't know why you think that them knowing who you are
would matter, But I do believe in this instance, if in fact there
would have been some level of conversation between both sides after the fact, law
enforcement and Scottie Scheffler and maybe even that even maybe even Darlington, if they
knew who they were, it wouldn't mean that they fully expect, like they
fully think that they all reacted. It wouldn't be like, Okay, well,
we can't do this, because yeah, he did, in fact,
you know, drive his car with a police officer attached to it. Even
if he did attach himself to it would have been a big deal if I
did it. But you know, if if this number one golfer in the
world did it, then we probably need to to, you know, give
him a pass. It's not that, but I think if there would have
been some level of realization in the heat of the moment, some de escalation,
I think cooler heads would have prevailed and they would have thought, Okay,
this is clearly not good, but do we need to proceed the way
we are proceeding right now. And I'm not telling you that they would have
for sure said no, let's let this guy go, you know, misunderstanding,
miscommunication, whatever it may be. But I just, you know,
I choose to believe that there's a good chance that it didn't need to get
to this. But I'm also willing to acknowledge I don't know, right I
wasn't there. I mean, no clue, and we may find out with
bodycam footage or we may not ever, because it doesn't you know, I
don't know if they you know, this guy he is a police officer,
but he was he's a traffic officer, which, by the way, I
can probably do a little looking on my end to figure out what that is.
But this guy's LinkedIn. I mean, it lists him as LMPD officer,
but it says just traffic, Like does that mean he only works traffic
situations? Like? I mean, I'm sure a quick Google search could help
me out with that. But it may be to the point where he wouldn't
have bodycam on because he's working traffic, and I don't know, maybe that's
I don't know lmpd's protocol as far as like you have to have your body
cam on at all times unless you know when you're out on the job,
But if you're just doing traffic, maybe you don't need to have it on.
Right. They had the yellow the yellow rain jackets on, would that
get in the way of the body cam? Right? So those are questions
that to my knowledge have not been answered just yet. But I'm really I
don't know. I have more questions for Scheffler than anything, because if he
didn't know that it was a cop. I still don't know if most people
would have reacted the way he reacted, but it does change I think how
you would respond to somebody that was doing that and trying to stop you,
I mean, driving fifteen to twenty yards was somebody? I don't When they
say attached, do they mean like on the hood or like hooked up to
like the driver's side doors, like holding onto the door while it shut like.
I have a lot of questions as to what that really means. But
that's a bit again, that's one of the questions we don't know the answer
to just yet, and it may just come down to you have to believe
somebody like did he know it was a cop? Did the cop identify themselves
whenever he when he tried to stop him from driving through? The yellowjacket doesn't
seem to say anything about LMPD or law enforcement on it from when I can
gather so again, body cam would tell us a lot of this, but
I don't know if they if they have it or not. It's just it's
it's a wild, still un believable situation. And here's the obvious reaction for
a lot of folks that aren't really thinking about the specific details to because be
honest with you, like maybe you don't care, right, maybe you're not
You're not necessarily looking to take a side. You just know that this is
a bad look for Louislle because that's what's it's a black guy for Louisville.
Like this is. You know, I talked all week about how, in
fact I've talked for weeks now, Wow, we've had a lot of attention
on Louisville, and it seems like we're doing really well. Right. The
derby one point fifty seemed to be phenomenal. Those here from all across the
world seemed to enjoy it. The race was a great finish. You know,
a lot of good momentum, good buzz after the Kentucky Derby, which
is a good look on Louisville. And then you have the PGA Championship.
Right there was coverage not just locally but nationally about how many fans showed up
for the practice rounds and you know, again we talked yesterday to Kent Spencer,
who's been covering it for WHS eleven since last week, and maybe he's
a little biased because obviously, you know, he's a Louisville native. This
is his market, but he felt like we couldn't have been doing a better
job as a city as far as you know, embrace this event, making
the PGA feel as if they made the right decision many many many years ago
to bring the PGA Championship here. So this incident can't help. But to
be honest with you, it sounds like, as we discussed yesterday, the
PGA was there was really no way to know if they were ever going to
be back here again. And you know, you talk to folks who cover
golf, they didn't, but you know, they just expected the PGA to
probably go elsewhere with the couple of dates they have available. I guess with
venues or I guess, you know, courses they could go to that are
like, you know, fifteen years out or something. So that does suck
because it turned into people bringing up the LMPD and the entire Breonna Taylor situation
at one point because of all that. If you remember the NBA, this
is a story I forgot about. But again, something like this happening gets
people talking nationally and they remember, oh, the last time I thought about
Louisville having a big sporting event outside of the derby was whenever there were teams
that you know that were in the NBA, teams in certain states and cities
that did not have any plans to lighten their COVID restrictions. Meaning if the
NBA proceeded to play not in the bubble, there are some franchises that may
need to move briefly while they're like the Raptors were going to have to move
because Canada had no plans to lift restrictions and would never consider letting them play
basketball in Toronto. Well, I don't even know if it was a real
I mean, it was clearly a story. I don't know how real it
was as far as like it was a thing. But Raptors players apparently were
all against potentially coming to Louisville if they had to move because of the Breonna
Taylor stuff. So it's a bad look for Kentucky, it's a bad look
for Louisville. But and I don't think that's debatable. But it all comes
down to, like who's it fault for it? Right? If in fact,
Scotty Scheffler, you know, even if it's a misunderstanding, he could
still have done something that even after learning it was a misunderstanding, he knows
he should not have done. Did it require you know it to get to
that level? I don't know, and we may never know. And when
I say we may never know, what I mean is it's just gonna come
down to who you believe, right. But to be honest with you,
I don't mean I don't think anybody's denied what is in the police report?
Have they? I mean I haven't seen any I mean even Steve Romans is
the attorney for for Scheffler. You know, I listened to his brief Q
and A outside of the correction metro corrections here downtown, and obviously he's not
gonna you know, he mentioned we're gonna let the case proceed. We're gonna
do you know he has he's gonna have a court day, this and that.
But I mean, you know, he wasn't as if they're I mean,
I think he actually described some like here's the thing. There's a lot
of finger pointing about is the cop more it fault for overreacting and just you
know, being a you know, not de escalating and just being trying to
be a hard ass. Or is Scheffler at fault for thinking he can not
listen to a cop because he's number and golfer in the world. Like that,
that I feel like is what a lot of people are you know decided
there? Are you pro L and PD doing the right thing and making an
example out of somebody who thinks they can get away with something because of their
status. Or is Scheffler a victim of a cop that's you know, a
tyrant or something like that. But if you listen to everything that's out there,
rather it be the police report, the the play by play, we
essentially just heard from Darlington and I think even the you know, like nobody's
denied anything. Maybe you wait till you have your hearing. I think he's
supposed to be in court on Tuesday, So I'm not really sure. There's
a whole lot. I mean again, what we really want to know is,
Okay, when are we gonna get body cam footage? Because that'll at
least give us a better you know, that'll show us exactly what happened.
Also, did he know it was a cop? He hasn't denied that he
that he didn't you know, we don't know. And you know he went
straight from L ANDPD corrections to Valhalla to play golf. So like there hasn't
probably been a whole lot of time for him to give any answers, in
probably because of his attorney. He won't answer any questions. And if my
attorney told me that, I would do the same thing. Before we get
to a break, I want to say this because this is just this is
the ultimate event, or this is the ultimate situation. That just is just
to you know, you can find this reminder any time you try hard enough
to look for it. We are so divided as a country that without knowing
facts, without knowing important details that could give you a better ability to decide
on your own individually, with your mind, what you think of the situation,
who you might feel is more at fault, or maybe you feel like,
hey, this was truly just a misunderstanding from both sides, and you
know it's unfortunate. But because we are programmed at times here in twenty twenty
four and for many years now to just automatically say, no, matter what
happens, I'm going to support the police and assume that they did nothing wrong
because that's my party, that's the way I lean, that's my side of
the aisle. And then there's others that again, not getting all the information
facts. They just assumed that this LMPD officer is a bad cop that wanted
to abuse as authority. People have already decided which one it is, without
any conflicting details of the event and without any full proof of who knew what
was really going on. And that sucks, but that's I'm not surprised.
That's how it's been for many many years now in this country. Right,
you didn't know anything for sure, But because law enforcement's involved and there's some
criticism their way, there's some that just say, well, hey, this
guy think he can get away with that because he's a golfer. I mean
maybe, but you don't know that, right, And then there's others that
just assume a LMPD these guys got the badge. They think they're badasses,
like without knowing. There's people who probably didn't even hear that account from Darlington.
They didn't see the video he posted, they didn't know. They just
saw that this guy trying to enter the course was arrested and they just assumed
that it's bad cop, a poor police job, or poor I guess poor
job by the police. So I just that's I shouldn't say. It fascinates
me because it sucks. But like a lot of folks in this country,
in society, have lost the ability to think for themselves. They just default
to whatever they whatever they feel is what the the you know, those that
share the same beliefs that they have are going to align with. So one
thing I don't know if I've mentioned, because I've just been rambling here,
this is another key factor that would explain why he at least tried to bypass
this this you know, this officer that he may not have known as an
officer. Other golfers in similar vehicles, I guess, were successfully able to
do exactly what Scottie Scheffler was trying to do. That's according to everybody involved.
So does that mean again, even if they even if you were able
to do it, I'm sorry they were able to do it. And then
you were stopped and you knew it was a police officer and he stopped you,
and you still just try to keep driving, like you know what,
you can't do that. I mean, I don't know if you tried to
hurt anybody, but like that's just something nobody you do. All right,
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All right, So a couple of things to add here that, uh,
you know, I'm sure by now people have realized this, just because
I feel like since this happened early this morning, it's really been all anybody's
been kind of talking about here locally. I'm sure that's not the case,
but it just seems that way, certainly when it comes to the news wire
nationally and locally. It's a big it's a big conversation. Colin Cowhard actually
talked about it earlier. I mean, everybody's talking about it, but he
I think he led his show discussing it, and he brought up something that
was definitely what Colin Cowherd typically does is he will throw out an opinion and
that's why he you know, maybe he's not your cup of tea, but
he'll throw out an opinion that you wouldn't have thought of, and it may
sound initially like what he talking about it, and then you'll you'll hear a
monologue and you'll at least be thinking of what his thoughts are. Right.
You may not agree with it, but he'll get you thinking. That's what
Colin's great. But he mentioned that Louisville shouldn't be to blame here, that
the PGA should be taking some accountability here because there should be better security for
someone like Scotty, like to where he you know, he's not driving himself,
there's somebody else and like they can let you know he shouldn't have been
in that situation. It doesn't excuse like if he did, in fact knowingly,
you know, try to drive with a cop attached to his car,
even if the cop was overreacting, like, you still can't do that.
But you know, I think his exact quote was, and I'll see if
I can track down the clip. They usually clip a lot of his show
on social pretty quickly, and I don't know if this this specific talking would
have made the cut to make it to social media, but here's the quote
that was shared at least on Twitter without the sound. Don't blame Louisville,
Blame the PGA. There's better security for an NFL broadcast team than the number
one golfer in the world. I don't know if that's just golf being clearly
different than every sport in variety of ways, and that's one of the things
that golfers just, you know, it's just it's different. You know,
as much as Scottie Schiffler is the number one golfer in the world, if
he was walking around in Louisville this week be spotted by many people because you
know, he's number one golfer in the world, and they are probably people
that are just here because of the event. But you know, it's not
like, you know, the number one basketball player in the world. I'm
not saying that this is the case right now, but like Lebron, like
clearly he would have a different level of you know, security, that kind
of stuff. So yeah, I mean, I'm sure the PGA won't take
a whole lot of accountability here, and I'm just going to assume that they
probably are less than pleased with how the morning went. And I'd shocked if
they're going to put much blame on on, you know, on their guy.
So a couple of things to clear up, because we did have some
people in the text line mentioning this earlier that the officers were clearly trying to
make a point and be aggressive by throwing him in the jumpsuit. I don't
know why that became such a thing. Like I saw people who I know
that work in in you know, this market as a media member that you
know, made claims that they used to track the police wire often and that
you know, they were always checking muck shots to see if somebody of note
got arrest or if there's a crime with details that might be worthy of making
the news. And they, you know, they indicated that they usually didn't
see anybody in a like in a in a jumpsuit or something like that.
And if you go look at like the actual like you know, the government
database where it shows people being booked in and it shows their mugshots, everybody
that was arrested before him, and everybody that was arrested after him. There
were a few people this morning that came in I guess after him and were
processed later. They all got mugshots and they were all wearing a yellow or
orange jumpsuit, so they didn't throw the orange on him to make a point
like, hey, you criminal, you think you can get away with it
because you're a golfer. That appears to be standard protocol. Also, this
is something that's a little mean, like, you know, his charge is
you know, not been dropped, and it you know, if it is
dropped, it won't be until I suppose they get to you know, I
don't know. I guess a judge can step in and do something. But
he was charged with a felony. And again we're talking about, you know,
assault on a police officer. So nobody else like he's already, he
already has actually received preferential treatment. Nobody else that gets arrested and booked for
charge with assault of a police officer a felony is getting out within minutes of
being booked. Nobody he was. Now some are trying to weaponize that againstlaw
enforcement, the cops, and saying that's them admitting they messed up. They
realize now they arrested this larger than life celebrity. They should have de escalated.
They and they may think they screwed up, but him getting out has
nothing to do with LMPD. A judge decides that situation. Law enforcement cops
don't decide if he can get in and get out. I mean, I'm
not a lawyer, but I've watched enough law in order to be dangerous here.
I mean, in all seriousness, that was a poor joke anyway,
wasn't funny, But like, that's pretty that's pretty obvious, isn't it.
Like the officer who arrests you doesn't decide you know your bail or anything like
that. It's usually a judge, I would assume. So, yeah,
he clearly did get some preferential treatment, But I don't think it means that
LMPD is going to review things and say they messed up. I'm fine with
saying, like, here's what I'll say. I choose to believe that this
thing could have been de escalated to where it didn't turn into this. But
I'm also will to say there are some important details that I think will at
least give some more context too for me to kind of feel like who I
think is more in the right or in the wrong. And nationally, and
I don't mean just like people around town that are bummed that this is a
bad look on the city and that this could keep other big events from coming
here. I'm talking nationally. It's all everybody just blaming l and PD and
they're just of the of the belief that the that that you know, that
LMPD did, you know, clearly just overreacted and they and they may have,
but I'm you know, and I am a little biased. I am
you know. I know Craig Greenberg, I was I've worked for him before
he ever became mayor, and I love Craig. And everybody that claims,
you know, he should have been involved. I mean, do you want
to get involved on something like that when you when you don't have all the
facts and things haven't come out yet, and then you're gonna stay Like imagine
if Scotty Scheffler said like horrific things and like was the ultimate a hole and
disrespected law enforcement and threatened him or something like that. I don't believe he
did, but I'm just saying, if he did that, and the mayor
of this city just happens to get win that LNPD is trying to arrest him,
and he just tells them to stop. And then later it's clear that
he deserved to be arrested, Like, you can't do that. You know,
he wasn't there either, and you know it's the mayor. You're gonna
even if you have to, even if after the fact you realize that you
know, law enforcement these guys who you know, technically, I guess you
employ, right. I mean, if they did something wrong, then down
the line you can address it and take action and right those wrongs and do
whatever you gotta do. But before you know that, it's just I mean,
I think it would have been a really really bad look. And this
is what's crazy to me. I think it would have been a really really
bad look for the allegations to be what they are and him to just get
a pass. But yeah, I feel like nationally, and you know,
maybe even the majority here locally, that's what everybody wanted to have happened,
just because it just you know, and again, I know I did mention
it before we went to our first break, and I probably waited too long
to mention it. But a big factor here is that others were doing the
same thing Scottie Scheffler tried to do. Why he was stopped. That's something
that only the officer, who you know, claimed to be injured was could
answer. And what do you think John about this? Just this specific component
and we'll get to the phone lines in just a second. If he knowing
or not knowing if it's a cop is really important, would you agree with
that? Yes? But even if it's not, why would you do that?
That's what I can't understand. Why would he continue to Yeah, move
forward? Yes, no matter who it is, like just either like stop
the car and call the cops yourself, you know what I'm saying, Like,
no matter who it is, if they're attached to your even if they're
in the wrong and they jump on your car because they're trying to attack you,
you know, if you're trying to defend yourself, then maybe you would
drive to try to get him off your car. Maybe he was scared.
I don't know for us. I'm being dead serious, That's probably what I
would have done if I didn't know it was an officer. I don't want
somebody trying because if you but it's not a stranger, it's somebody working in
some capacity like there's no bad Yeah, that's that's true, Because that's true.
He didn't think it was some rando like celebrity stalker that was trying to
like, you know, ambush him. It was clearly somebody that was working
and so like to me, and again I can't read his mind. I
don't know he knew it was either a cop or he knew it was somebody
working traffic in that situation. To to you know, it wasn't like,
what's this person doing here? Clearly they're they're they're conducting traffic. Now do
you know, should they have stopped you? Doesn't sound like it because again
others were apparently allowed to do what he tried to do and he wasn't,
and it turned into this but I just driving, you know, again,
this is this, This is the account that Darlington gave. Driving fifteen to
twenty yards with anybody attached to your vehicle, to me, just doesn't make
any sense unless you think they were trying to harm you. But I just
have a hard time thing thinking that he would believe he was going to be
harmed whenever it was quite clear law enforcement or not, it was somebody there
trying to conduct trying to guide traffic. And another component here that is rather
obvious is that it was a very highly stressful, highly intense situation regardless of
Scheffler's involvement, because somebody had just died. There was something, I mean,
somebody was killed in an accident. So does that mean that you know,
they should overreact. No, but like that's also something that shouldn't be
ignored that whoever's out there working in that, you know, especially if it's
law enforcement, like they've got somebody dead, and I mean, yes,
there is an investigation. I think it was quite clear that it was a
tragic accident where one of the buses had hit somebody in the road. But
it's still an investigation where you need everybody to do whatever you're saying because it's
that serious. Now, maybe he didn't know, like Scheffler didn't know that
had happened. It sounds like that's what its attorney was saying, I believe,
and maybe the others that were able to do that like got in before
the accident happened. So again, as I said, to start to show
there are some things that like we may never know the full truth, right,
it may just come down to this guy's word or that guy's word.
Bodycam footage would absolutely tell us a lot more about the situation and give us
context to where I think it could. It could help us, you know,
I guess, And again doesn't matter, right, Like, obviously it's
gonna he'll probably I don't know if he's gonna have any charges drop, but
I doubt he's gonna be. He's not gonna be in like major trouble.
But either way, Like, although there's things we don't know, and I
think there's some you know, again, I would love to see bodycam footage
just to see exactly how it turned into that so quickly whenever you know,
just this is a guy who who is as clean as a whistle according to
those that cover golf. Doesn't mean you should get away with doing anything,
but like it just is so uncharacteristic. So but but I say all that
to say what we do know. Details in the police report, the details
that are coming from Jeff Darlington, and the brief you know, statement that
we've got from his attorney. Nobody who's talking about the event. He's sharing
wildly different stories. Now maybe we maybe they will in court and we get
there, but I think we kind of know what happened, to be honest,
But again it comes down to did he know it was law enforcement and
did the cop instead of just having a conversation, just try to, you
know, break his windows. So then he took off Like those are details
that matter. But again there's no body can footage. This is gonna come
down to who you believe. All right, let's go to the phone line.
Five two, five nine hundred is the number. Let's welcome in,
Nino. Nino. How are you, sir, hey man, thanks for
thanking my call. Yeah, I've seen it this morning and my cousin called
me. He said, he said the same thing you said. I've never
met anybody get at within minute. It's Friday. If it was me and
you to get arrested, we probably ain't getting that some Monday May, oh
for sure, especially on that kind of change. Yeah, So I said
if I said, well, I don't have a problem with him getting that
in minutes, because well, first of all, he's the number one golfer
in the world. I know it sounds like special privilege, but you got
the right type of attorney. You're a celebrity, Yeah, and there's certain
you know, precautions and things you have to take when dealing with a high
profile I don't want to call him a prisoner, you know, but a
high profile person coming into the correctional facility, I think special measurements and special
things would have to happen, just like like when President Trump had to go
to court, you got to do special stuff. I mean, I can't
treat him like me and you. I mean, it is what it is.
It sucks exactly this man is getting ready to play. I'm sure his
attorney argued, hey, for a living, he plays golf for a living,
and he's in town for one of the biggest and I think there's enough
out there about him him to it. Just to be clear, like,
I don't I'm not saying that he should not have been released. I'm just
stating the fact that that, you know, like anybody who thinks that that
means that the cops feel like they made they made a mistake. I just
don't think you could come to that conclusion, because again, I don't think
it's the cops that were involved that let that happen. And clearly he's not
a threat to society. He's not a I mean, he's so trust me,
I don't I don't want to make anybody think that I'm saying, well,
uh, they should have kept him in there. No, but I
don't think it should have ever got there. But again, I'm willing to
acknowledge that there's some details that that will have to wait and see, you
know, some specifics to really know. Yeah, hanging on the car thing,
I'm like, boy, what kind of movie scene was that? I
wish I could have seen that, man. Yeah, and I'm glad nobody
was urt. No, yeah, thank you. I appreciate the call,
Neino. And look when it comes to like, I just don't know how
it got there. Like it's just for it to escalate that much. I
mean, it is law enforcements, you know. I mean their main job
is to protect and serve, right, But like the escalation is something that
cops should exercise, you know. You know, That's what I believe.
And was there any attempt to that? Was there even no thought to do
that because of the seriousness of the accident that had someone killed, Like,
you know, I just really want body cam footage, and I feel like
if they had it, we wouldn't have it in front of us right now.
But I feel like we kind of know if it was like, if
it was coming. Somebody did make a good point earlier that the day after
the tragic mass shooting that took place at the old National Bank, the day
after every we all saw the body cam footage, so like, if it
was on, it wouldn't be crazy tough to get to it. I don't
know. It could be that it's just their protocol that in those situations when
a cop is working traffic, it's not required to be on. And clearly
there's been many times where it was supposed to be on and humm, looks
like I didn't have it on. It looks like it wasn't working. All
right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side right here on
Sports Talk seven night. If you're on hole, we'll get to you on
the other side. We have a very little time left here in the three
o'clock hour clock. Management not always my strong suit, certainly not today,
but for those that have been holding, you can stick with us and we
will get to the person here that has been holding the longest, and that
is Chris, who wants to share his thoughts on which you would expect somebody
would be wanting to share thoughts on today. The situation this morning was Scotti
Scheffler, the number one golfer in the world, on his way to uh
Day two of the PGA Championship at Valhalla, arrested taking a jail on some
you know, multiple charges, including one felony. It just again, saying
it out loud does not seem in any way real, but it really did
happen. All right, let's go to Chris. Chris, you're on Sports
Talk seven ninety. How are you hey, I'm going good man, How
you guys do it? Not too bad? First of all, you know,
let's keep this gentleman's family that was killed this morning in or you know,
our prayers. Sure absolutely, bus driver most certainly he's traumatized. Now
my points, I got a couple of points here. A lot of this
is on the PGA and Louisville itself. Why if we had to have workers
there early hours in the morning, that stretch of the road really dark speed
livers what forty five? Yeah, and it sounds like turning left onto like
into traffic is just like a nightmare scenario. That's, you know, before
everything happened today that people have been complaining about when it comes to Valhalla and
how this thing is, you know, organized, I guess as far as
just getting people into the event, right, So I mean, you know
you were thought about it probably gonna happen tomorrow. They'll probably be security after
tomorrow. Directed traffic at four o'clock in the morning. Now, this incident
happened what around five I don't know the exact time, something like that,
very early in the morning for sure. Yeah, well I got on the
five am news. Whole stretch of chevy By Road was closed down. But
so let's get to the Scotti getting arrested. Now, he got in and
out in about an hour and he was released with a no R. How
does that even happen? Loubal lawyer already be there. Yeah, in got
god, Chris, I appreciate the call. We got to get to a
break here. But I will say really quickly, I would say that,
you know, the one of the owners of the of the course, one
of the owners of Valhalla was was with Scheffler when he left in the suv,
meaning left Corrections to come back to Valhalla. I would imagine that somebody,
maybe the gentleman who was one of the owners of the course, reached
out to Steve Romans who is his attorney, and they were able to make
some calls to make it to where, yes, he is going to get
he's been charged, he's going to be processed. He's going to jail,
but he can get out. Really, he can get out, you know,
quickly. He was released on his own recognant, So you know,
it wasn't as if, you know, they didn't see him as a threat,
but they did feel that he needed to actually come down and be processed
because of the seriousness of the charges. So yeah, I don't know what
was done to make it to where he could get in and out that quickly,
but most people would not be out at all. They'd still be sitting
in jail because of how serious it was. So uh, you know,
it's it's it's not ideal, but it's it's it's it's life. It's not
something that you should like maybe be happy about or maybe maybe you don't care,
but like certain people get different treatment than others. That's that's life.
I don't see that ever changing, to be honest with you. All right,
quick break, We've got some sound from the from the press conference that
I guess was that happened here not too long ago. That we'll share with
you and I'll let you guys continue to react. I'm sorry we had to
cut you silk short there, Chris. We're up against it, but we
got two more hours left to stick with us right here on Sports Talk seven ninety