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Steve Bravera and Jake and Salez.
They have their eye on the ball on

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Tucson Sports Stage. Yet Fox Sports
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I hoard radio. Waw hey,
welcome back to I'm the Ball here on

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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, he's Jay. Now we have samonly

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with breaking Newsy eye on the balls. All right. So we briefly talked

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about it when we were talking about
college basketball and the Final Four and whatnot.

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But two top five teams lost in
the last two days. Number three

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UNC lost on the road at Georgia
Tech Damon Stodemeyer obviously the head coach there,

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and the number five Tennessee Volunteers lost
at home to what should be a

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now ranked South Carolina team. That's
that was surprised you. I didn't know.

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I didn't pay attention to that one. But that's a big deal.

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At home Tennessee at home lost to
South Carolina. Wow, who's the coach

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of South Carolina? Don't worry about
it, even as I should know the

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two but they're eighteen and now,
really they should be in the top twenty

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nineteen. That may have been their
nineteenth yeah. I think that was their

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nineteenth Wow said you know that said
this team should be ranked. So so

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here we are. I don't know. Now they're eighteen and three, their

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second in the SEC next two six
and two behind Alabama, Labella and Kentucky's

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always said there too. But this
goes to show you how many good teams

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are out there at the same record
and kind of level. And then and

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I don't think that Arizona fans real
Is that getting am I wrong? I

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on agree? I think the avid
Arizona fan that will go to the cow

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game tomorrow, watch us win and
be like, oh, we can win

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the national championship again, doesn't realize
that the South Carolina team or teams like

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this out there, that if they're
a six seed and we're three and we

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play them, that's gonna be a
dog fight right right right. In fact,

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somebody Saturday on Facebook, because that's
what I read them, an old

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guy and some guys says, oh, if they played like this, they

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could beat anybody. Well not anybody, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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they're gonna play South Carolina or Tennessee
there somebody, Yeah, they got

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to play like they played, you
know, Duke Alabama, Wisconsin and they

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haven't played like that then, Yeah, I mean Kansas is in fourth place

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in the Big twelve. Yeah,
I mean, just think of that.

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They've won the league. How many
times in a row? You know last

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year, they tied it last year, but still you know, tied or

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won the league like forty times in
a row. That number. But you

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know, Steve brings up a good
points like, oh, well, if

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we play like this, we can
beat anybody. There's probably twenty teams in

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the NCAA that can say that to
say, if we play like this week,

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set anybody exactly exactly. Maybe there's
more than to put in context.

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That's a way to do it.
Because everybody thinks that they're the best,

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you know, the best good looking
woman in the ball Well not nothing necessarily.

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Well, yeah, you look at
FAU. If they play like they

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played against Arizona, they could be
to find themselves right back in the final

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four Hemos. Did you know that
they're not in the first place in the

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Big Yes, I knew that.
They're still I think the best team in

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the country. They have the best
player in the country, they have one

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of the best backcourts. Wisconsin's in
first place. Yea, they haven't lost.

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They haven't lost. It. It's
funny though, No, you say

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that the Wisconsin is the better team
in the Big twelve, said their first

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place in the the first place of
Big ten. Their their coach Guard remember

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the key came here, they played
here and they were okay, it was

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gonna beat them at home. And
Guard said, well, you know,

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I have to give it. It
was gonna credit. They were better than

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us today today, right, And
that's it, And I remember that.

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I'll never forget that because that's how
you judge today. And to be fair,

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I think if Van Wisconsin played again, a similar result would happen.

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I just didn't see a lot from
Wisconsin. Granted it was in Tucson,

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but I would feel comfortable. It's
difficult to be the good team twice a

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year. But so that that was
another part portion. Wisconsin and Duke both

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teams you have a beat, are
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So interesting to watch. But that
Duke game almost feels like it was eight

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years ago. It was so long
ago. It was early in the football

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season, it was so it's almost
they're two completely different teams. Like Steve

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said, even Wisconsin, I granted
I haven't watched them play in a while,

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but they've probably figured a lot of
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you would be different. And then
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Caleb Love is one of twenty in
the Wooden Award watch list. Oh

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okay, so and he was on
He's on the He's the finalist for Jerry

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West Award too. So he's you
know, he's like, he's scoring a

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lot of points, he's having a
huge impact. He's you know, in

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some in some ways you can say
it. With the last few weeks,

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he's carried this team. So I
saw something today I can't remember where,

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but it was a legit, legit
site that Caleb loves not even this he's

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not even the favorite to win the
back twelve Player of the Year. The

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pact is Colorado guy, Cody Williams. No, No, somebody else.

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I'd have to kind of find the
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Those are Colorado guy. Nineteen points
is every nineteen points. And I think

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that was kind of strange. I
think that Arizona recruited the kid or maybe

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kJ TJ kJ Nelson kJ that guy. Yeah, And I think because because

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he's been too well again, when
you only watch the Simpson Yeah, when

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you only watch the same TV show, when you're thinking, you got this

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is the best show on TV.
Well, how do you know that?

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Well? I know, well,
I know he didn't play very well against

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Arizona the first time. It shut
him down pretty well, but they are

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They're also missing, you know,
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It feels like if Caleb does continue
on this trajectory, he will find himself

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in a good spot to pack to
a player of Year. I think,

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especially if you have a wins the
conference, y, I think you have

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to take some of that. Arizona
goes, if Everzon goes and beats Colorado

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again up there, and and and
Caleb Love has a really good game.

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Yet you got it, you got
it that you kind of think he has

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to be the fair But I guess
the question that I have for you,

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guys, is is you of A
at its best when Love is in that

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twenty to thirty range, or is
you have a better when he's at that

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in fifteen to eighteen twenty The ball
is moving around more, other guys are

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involved. And I'm not saying that
when he does that it's bad for them.

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I'm just saying that when you know, when when everybody's getting the ball,

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Keishad Johnson is scoring, Paley's scoring, kylon Is Boswell was going,

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Umar is getting his, you know, but when they're at when five guys

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are averaging double figures, that's when
they're at their best because that's hard to

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defend. It's much easier to defend
Caleb Love one guy, and if none

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of nobody else is doing anything.
You know, a couple of those games

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where he scored a bunch of points, they lost. So no, Arizona

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has to They've got to spread the
ball around and five guys have to be

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you know, scoring and threats to
score. That's when they're at their best.

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That's kind of why I brought it
up, because he's had it seems

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as though he's had those big games
and you as lost. Yeah, yeah,

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and they didn't. That's still last
weekend. I think their best when

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Kaitlyn shows up. I'm sorry,
Yeah, I was looking today was a

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player A versus Player B with all
the stats on Twitter today and he goes,

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oh, who would you rather have? And Player A was clearly kind

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of the more efficient, better,
more cis and player A was Kercreasa and

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player B was Kylon Boswell. Wow, So I just I laughed because obviously

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he they parted ways for reasons maybe
unknown. But I just kind of Giglden

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was like, it occurs, having
a statistical better. Are you telling me?

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Numbers do lie? Numbers numbers do
kind of lie. But I kind

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of Gigblden just kind of briefly pictured
what this team would look like with him

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on the team. But it would
look a lot different. But West Virginia

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is in thirteenth place out of fourteen
and the Big twelve. Yeah, no,

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they're I don't know if that's contributing
to winning, but it was.

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It was just funny but quick NFL
stuff. The Seahawks hired their new head

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coach, saw the defensive coordinator from
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did so well last week. How
did that happen? Hey, they only

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give up seventeen They only give up
seventeen points. Okay, what do they

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do? They lost? But other
than that, missus Lincoln Hell was the

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player. I don't think you blame
that loss on the defense or the defensive

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corner. They didn't give up a
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they did. They lost. And
I'm not defending anyone or any you are.

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You absolutely defended him. He should
be defended it. He put me

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in my place. You blew your
argument when you just said that. I

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hate to bother you, but I'm
going to bother you. He did his

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job, that's all I know.
He's going to be doing it now with

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the Seahawks and the Cardinals divisions.
Another job that Belichick didn't get. Yeah,

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I saw the odds for him not
to coach a football team are now

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in the minus. So I don't
know if he's gonna take a year off.

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I heard Fox might want. Well, is it is the commanders?

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Is that the only job that's left
now? The commander's in. There's been

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no word about the Eagles job,
but they've their code. They haven't,

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Yeah, exactly, so there's been
none. But we'll see. The commander's

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job is kind of a crap shoot
at this point. And then I'm sure

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you guys kind of talked briefly about
the Super Bowl, but the Chiefs are

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one and a half point underdogs.
Underdogs still it opened at three and now

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it's to one and a half.
We'll see what that looks like, but

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that's that. I'm not gonna bet
against Patrick their money right, love that?

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Yeah, so it's moved. What
do you think, Sammy, Oh,

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I'm I'm on the Chiefs. I'm
on the Chiefs. They have this

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week. They were a little banged
up after both the Bills in the Ravens

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game. I don't know if they
get their guard back. I think he's

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the left guard Tooney. No,
not not Kadarius Tony, but one of

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the their guys on the offensive line. I just would never want to be

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watching a game and have the other
side of Patrick Mahones. That's what I

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did last week. I'm and I
was. I grew up watching Brady and

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even a little bit of Paint manning. Sometimes it's like when those guys are

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huge games, big moments, and
you are rooting for the other team,

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then you might be in the wrong
spot right for once on the show there,

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I don't have any MBA breaking news. Wow, look at you.

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I could go on with little minute
stuff, but that's just my MBA weirdness.

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And then the last thing, so
the PGA Tour and the Strategic Sports

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Group agreed to a three billion dollar
deal, and so now the PGA was

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a nonprofit before this deal was all
made. Now the PJA is a for

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profit entity and it's going to be
kind of the new labels. The PGA

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Tour Enterprises officially launched today. Okay, what is this agreement? So you

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and who was Strategic Sports whatever.
So ESPN has an article out about it

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says, under the terms of this
deal, Strategic Sports Group, which is

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being led by Fenway Sports Group,
so they're one of the largest sports entities

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in all of the world. Honestly, would make an initial investment of one

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point five billion, with the possibility
of another one point five billion coming later.

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The PGA Tour will control the for
profit company. So basically, on

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a surface level, going to pitch
this to like a five year old is

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the Strategic Sports Group is acting as
what the PIFF would have done. So

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the PIFF, the public investment firm, wanted to give their money as an

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investment to the PGA Tour. Now
Strategic Sports Group Fenway Sports Group is acting

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as that entity now, so the
PGA is pretty much doing the deal.

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The investment, which a lot of
people were gonna think it was gonna be

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PIFF, is now being done with
Fenway Sports Group. There's still conversations with

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the Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund about
regulatory approval, so there's a lot going

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on with that right now today.
It broke this morning, so I'm sure

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contracts, meetings are all going to
do. Does this mean anything as it

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relates to with the product on the
on the golf courses stuff? Not.

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From my brief research, not a
ton Live Golf will still be acting and

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having their season and no such players
will be currently allowed to play on both

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tours, So that bridge has not
been connected yet, but it seems as

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though it's a first step to there's
going to be more. So we'll see

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kind of what happens in that.
But as as a golf guy, that

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was a that was some big news
guys, at least actions it sounded like

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big news to me, but I
didn't know what the hell they were talking

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about, at least from someone that
they've been kicking this can down the road

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long enough to where now something is
in writing. Handshake has been agreed and

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there's been approvals from both parties and
an investment has officially been made. And

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so the biggest thing I think is
now the PGA Tour purses, so prize

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money that went on last year,
they raised them. They have all the

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signature event if that if there was
no agreement in place in the next couple

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of years, that would have began
to be a problem. They now have

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the purse money for the next five
years and then the Strategic Sports Group.

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I assume with this investment expect to
make money off of this. Sure,

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it's and that's what that's the that's
the idea, right, that's the idea

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of why. I think that the
hesitancy was. They gave the one point

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five up front out of what's a
three billion dollar deal, and the other

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one point five will be given later. So I guess they want to see

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if they actually are going to be
making money. So that's you, you

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know what, as long as they're
playing all the tournaments and the grass is

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green and the winds blowing. So
I heard Charlie Brown's teacher going to me,

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that aren't already have a lot of
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let's go and take a break.
Now we're going to come back to have

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the full Tommy Lloyd press conference from
today. You'll get some Here's thoughts on

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Streamy Live, I mean I heard radio

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act. This is Eye on the
Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on

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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey,
welcome back to our the ball here Fox

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Sports Fortune fifteen on Steve, you're
Jay. Now we have Tommy yep put

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some but what well thirteen minutes,
that's about thirteen minutes. He did start

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out the press conference with the thing
about the coaches versus cancer and this shoe

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auction that's going on, and we'll
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conference, but for now, let's
just play as press conference and uh,

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you know, you know it'll be
you'll hear the questions and the answers,

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and you'll talk about, you know, what's going on this week as a

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hit into the cal Stanford series.
So A, you mentioned after the last

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game that you're tired of hearing about
the bounce back and you need to put

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the wins together. What what needs
to change or does anything need to change

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to make that happen? I mean, you just got to play better.

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I mean, I don't think we
need to overthink it. I think we

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need to play better. And you
know, obviously it's easy, you know,

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to you know, with a revisionist
history to go back and dissect what

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happened, you know, but we
got to be we got to be better

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in those moments and make sure that
you know, we're doing the things necessary

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to win, whether it's home or
or on the road. And so that's

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our focus. And you know,
I think this team's ready to take the

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next steps. But but me thinking
they're ready, and that's actually doing it

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are two different things. So now
now the coaching staff, you know,

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has to lead the players, and
the players have to help lead themselves.

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And then we need to we need
to get moving forward on some of the

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things kJ said last week. You
know, he was concerned about past performances

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where he felt like the team,
you know, didn't come out with a

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sense of urgency against the teams that
they were favored. I guess clearly against

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Oregon State, you guys came out
with good energy. This is just a

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matter of keeping that together before you
go up. I mean, like I

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said, I think you can dissect
this stuff anyway you want. You know,

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we just got to play better.
I mean, and you can give

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the old you know, the forty
minutes cliche, but you know, you

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can't foul seven times under ten seconds
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and when whether those are all good
calls or bad calls, it doesn't matter,

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they were called vowls. You can't
give up five made threes under five

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seconds on a shot clock. You
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hard shots, and a couple of
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bit more. Just things like that, you know, And then offensively,

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you know, you got to put
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I felt like on that road trip, I think we shot over fifty percent

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both games, you know, not
not that I wouldn't want to, you

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know, I always want a little
bit more. But but you know,

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like I said, we're We're not
you know, dwelling on this stuff or

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overthinking it. I thought we played
really good on Saturday. I think we've

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had another good week of preparation.
So you know, I'm excited to see

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how we come out tomorrow. So
this is starting now, where with the

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exception of a couple of moments,
you face these teams. Now, does

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that give you an advantage or does
that just even play field because they know

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the same things that I mean,
it probably gives both team an opportunity for

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an advantage, you know. I
mean, if you've played you know each

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other, you know, once you
have you know, real live bullets.

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When you go back and look at
the film, it's us versus them and

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then versuss so you know, I
mean, you know, but at the

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end of the day, you know
that was you know, over a month

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ago now, and you know,
and and and things change and evolve over

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the course of the season. It
looks like to me, they're playing really

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well. You know, I mean
the Tyson guy, he's a heck of

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a player. I mean he's really
aggressive, you know, really strong,

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you know, skilled, you know, perimeter player. I mean, he's

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leading the conference and scoring. And
then you know they're big. You know,

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they use him in a variety of
ways and you know, kind of

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like a modern day big where they
facilitate through him and play through him,

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and he's good at doing that.
And then you know Cohen is obviously an

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explosive score who you know, he's
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bit streaky, but you know his
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threes in a game. And then
the Cells team kids playing really well too,

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I mean something that looks like me, he's really settled in and their

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role players are playing good. So
you know to me that they they got

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a solid squad when you took care
of him twenty to two run early up.

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There is a challenge to convince your
guys that they are better. Like

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you're saying, if it is a
challenge, we don't have mature competitors,

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so I hope it's not. I
hope our guys, you know, I

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mean, I hope they don't need
a raw ross beach. I hope they

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understand what we're playing for and you
know, in what position we've put ourselves

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in, and I hope there's a
sense of urgency to take advantage of that.

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Did you see, Tommy in terms
of when you went back to look

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at the organ games and they thought
it was different for Kylon in that game

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and some of the games he had
struggled. You know, Kyland was just

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way more aggressive he was. You
know, I think we had looked at

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one deal and and he had like
two or three game stretch. We only

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got to the paint one time,
you know, and so he just was

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more aggressive. He got to the
paint a few more times, you know,

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he he hunted a few catch and
shoots, you know, and we

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don't expect any player to be perfect, and even Kylon to be perfect,

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but he just played with more force
and aggression and you just had a better

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way about him, and you know, and so I mean that's Island gets

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all the credit for playing well.
It was no no magic potion, no

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big speech or anything like that.
He just stepped up and played better.

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And we need him to guys double
the post defensively. What are your core

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philosophies there on how you want your
guys to do that? Hey, I

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mean, let's get the napkin and
go to Bob Dobbs and I'll sit down

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with you guys to be honest with
you. I mean, we haven't really

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doubled the post much lately, you
know, So I mean the core philosophy's

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always put two guys on the ball
aggressive, you know, have a low

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hole, a top hole, you
know, and then you then you have

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a you know, a guy in
a rotation. So I mean it's kind

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of no matter how you double the
post, you know where it comes from,

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the baseline, the top, the
passer, you know, the other

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big off, the dribble, whatever, on the catch. I mean you

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kind of end up, you know, with two guys on the ball and

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three guys you know, supporting.
And so that's kind of all the same

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philosophy I think everybody has. You
have to be honest with you, There's

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not a lot of different ways to
do it. You imagine that with surety,

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how would you say, from the
beginning of the season to now that

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the matures the rest within within the
team, Yeah, for sure. I

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mean we're we're we're better now than
we were at the start, you know,

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And I think that's hard for people
to understand, you know, but

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you know, you know, other
teams get better too, so you know,

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there's always that continuum. And we're
better now because of what we've been

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through, the good things and the
bad things, and and now you got

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to you just got to continue to
build. And you know, I,

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like I told Kylon, Kylin' is
a better player now than than he was

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before the Duke game because of his
experiences, you know. And it may

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not look like that or feel like
it every day, but but he is

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so now. Now. You just
hope these guys hang with it and keep

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their confidence high and then if if
you're able to do those things, the

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growth will show. There's a lot
of data that suggests it's harder to win

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on the road this year right now
than it has been a long time in

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college basketball. Why do you think
that is, Whether it's provable in your

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team or the sports? I mean, well, first off, I mean

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our team, we don't ever want
to lower our standards. We expect to

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win on the road, bottom line. I mean, that's our responsibility to

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go out and win on the road. We know it's incredibly challenging. I

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think some of the reasons are I
mean, I think that you're still seeing

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the effect of COVID, you know, with these players getting extra eligibility,

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and you know, I think that
I think the way I've kind of looked

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at it, and I might not
be right, I think there's one more

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year. Last year's kind of that
fifth year from COVID where these guys are

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getting that extra ability, extra year
of eligibility. So there there's more experienced

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players in the player pool, you
know, and these players are getting dispersed

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and distributed, you know, you
know across you know, other teams,

408
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:41.480
you know, because you know you
can't load up and kids are looking,

409
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.200
well, I don't want to go
there. They have three guys. I'm

410
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:45.200
going to go here, you know, So maybe some of these other teams

411
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.079
there's a little bit of a trickle
down effect. I think that's to me

412
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:53.200
the most significant reason. And then
you know with the transfer portal on kids,

413
00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:56.119
you know, being able to be
instantly eligible or transferred twice and get

414
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eligible when that wasn't to be.
The plan is just how to lou teams

415
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that are now more experienced, have
more depth, you know, have more

416
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talent, you know, across the
board, and there's been a trickle down

417
00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:11.640
effect to some of the other programs
that maybe wasn't there pre COVID. I

418
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.680
mean, to me, that would
be the most logical way. Now,

419
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:21.319
I don't have any data other than
my eyes and you know that are telling

420
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.720
me that, But to me,
I think that would be the major cause.

421
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.799
Last week there was on the board
meeting there was an agenda item pulled

422
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.920
that would have involved a contract extension
for you what are you able to tell

423
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.759
us about why that was taken off
there? Because there was no agreement.

424
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:38.880
I mean, it was as simple
as that. I don't know why it

425
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.640
was on there. It's probably just
a small oversight, you know. But

426
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:48.319
but you know, we're we're definitely, you know, working hard behind the

427
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.440
scenes to make sure that we you
know, we find an agreement and and

428
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.519
I'm excited about it. I mean, last night, allowed to say this,

429
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.720
Arizona's a great place. Last night
we had a social with over two

430
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.359
hunds are in employees from the Athletic
department for a happy hour culinary dropout.

431
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:07.880
We had a great time and this
is a special place to work and and

432
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.759
I think people inside this building realize
that. And it's on us right now

433
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.799
to to make take the next steps
as an organization and make it an unbelievable

434
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:22.400
culture and and so that's what we're
gonna do. And and so I'm excited

435
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:23.880
to be part of it, lead
it, whatever you want, you know,

436
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:27.960
to follow it. I mean,
I'm all in. For whatever reason,

437
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:33.279
it seemed like Caleb was playing angry
in that game Saturday. For him,

438
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.319
he's got a bad scout. I
think he was really happy, actually,

439
00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:38.119
you know, and I tell him
that, he tell him he needs

440
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.200
to smile more. I used to
tell Ben that all the time too,

441
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:42.640
So, uh, I don't think. I don't think he was he was

442
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.680
angry. I mean I think he's
he's a competitor, and I think he

443
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.200
knew, you know, we needed
to play well as a team. And

444
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.440
and and he, you know himself, played really well. I mean that's

445
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.440
the one thing that probably hasn't gotten
talked about him. He he played a

446
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:59.079
great game. And you know,
to me, he looks every bit you

447
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.079
know, the part of a team
all American, you know, And I've

448
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:03.880
coached a lot of those guys,
and he's right there. You know.

449
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:07.599
I think the really important part,
which is going to allow him to get

450
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.599
there and our team to get there, is if he just settles in and

451
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.160
plays really solid basketball. You know, you don't have to try to score

452
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.960
thirty every game. I mean,
I'm happy with fifteen, a few assists,

453
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:22.759
low turnovers, good defense. I
think that gets him there. And

454
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.759
I think ed and I know that
you know, he's having that all American

455
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:33.519
impact on our team. You're about
the going smaller with some of the some

456
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.000
of the labs having like Keisha or
Halloween and five having done that a little

457
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:40.680
bit the other day, is that
something you could do more of or is

458
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:45.440
it a situation we could do more
of a lot of things, for sure,

459
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.200
but yet it is it is something
you know that I that I like

460
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.000
that, and just you know,
you you know, you develop your team

461
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:55.200
and maybe you know you always have
your your base. You know that that

462
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:56.960
that's probably what you're going to do
a majority of the time. But I

463
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:00.680
think it's good to add a few, you know, variations to just to

464
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:06.920
give yourself more opportunities to maybe impact
the game with different lineups and and and

465
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.240
so I thought, I thought that
was really impactful that game. And and

466
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.039
I and I don't I didn't go
back and look at them the lineup numbers,

467
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.000
but you know what my eyes told
me, is it really worked At

468
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:21.279
this time of year? Do you
kind of feel like this is the last

469
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:23.240
time to really get your rotation the
way you want it to be. I

470
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:26.839
mean, I mean, I don't. I don't know if it's the last

471
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:30.759
time. You know, I think
your you know, your mind's always kind

472
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:36.440
of going to places like how can
we be harder to play against? You

473
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.279
know? But but if if your
team stays healthy, you know, you

474
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:41.759
you know, you probably don't have
to make a ton of lineup adjustments.

475
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:47.240
I mean that that's probably the you
know, the biggest catalyst for changing you

476
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:48.960
know, lineups would be, you
know, an injury or something like that.

477
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:53.680
Is any part of that, you
know, you've talked about moroscos and

478
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:57.079
more of each and getting those guys
in, I mean, does that get

479
00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:02.440
them? I mean those are good
players, they're good players, and I

480
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:06.000
mean I'm hard on myself every day
that they're not getting opportunities, you know,

481
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.079
But but it's hard. I mean
sometimes that's you know, one of

482
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.720
the most difficult things about being a
coach. You know, it's just you

483
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:17.359
know, rewarding guys with opportunities they
deserve. It's just you can't make everyone

484
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.519
happy or give everyone the opportunity to
deserve. But I know this, those

485
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:22.799
guys are both going to be great
basketball players in the future. Was it

486
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.960
specifically the flow of that oring game
that we saw he shot take four threes

487
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.720
or is there a mor An emphasis
in him doing that? Well? You

488
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.480
know, I mean I think they
weren't guarding it much, you know,

489
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:34.880
to be honest with you. And
I like it when he shot shoots good,

490
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.720
wide open threes. I mean,
I watch him shoot every day in

491
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.200
practice. I watch him shooting his
workouts, and you know, I'm comfortable.

492
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.119
I'm comfortable when he shoots the basketball, and I think that helps us.

493
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:47.240
So, you know, I think
he took you know, he took

494
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.240
a few really good shots and you
know, kind of got set up by

495
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:55.000
his teammates and so yeah, no, I don't think there was anything you

496
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:57.440
know, different from that game than
maybe any other. You know, maybe

497
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.000
there's the ball found him a few
times, and maybe Oregon was you know,

498
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:07.240
you know, maybe keeping his defender
closer to the lane to help Stanford

499
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:12.440
and cow in particular. Do you
do you see yourselves playing them in any

500
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.720
form outside of maybe a random MTE
in the next foreseeable future or whatever.

501
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:19.920
Well, the foreseeable future I see
have just playing them Thursday and Sunday.

502
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:23.319
So but but beyond that, I
don't, I don't know. I don't

503
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:27.480
know. I mean, like you
know that, I'm kind kind of just

504
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:30.599
focus on where we're at now.
And I know that's no fun for you

505
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:34.160
because you want to write a scheduling
article. I know that, but uh,

506
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.680
but I respect both those coaches,
respect about those programs, and I

507
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.799
mean it's possible something can happen in
the future, but for the time being,

508
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.599
obviously, I want to focus on
now, and then, you know,

509
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.680
I want to figure out what it's
like to play a big twelve schedule,

510
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.880
you know, a little bit.
Then I think that'll kind of help

511
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.160
me guide me and how we can
do some non conference stuff, you know,

512
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:57.519
going forward, because you know,
I think the the easy sentimental answer

513
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.759
is, yeah, we're gonna continue
playing all these packed both schools and home

514
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.440
and homes. Well, we'd run
out of games and it probably wouldn't be

515
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:06.839
very smart scheduled. So yeah,
I don't know, Bruce, I don't

516
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:09.440
I don't really know going forward,
you know, I mean the only one

517
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.720
you know, I mean, I'm
you know, I'll talk to a few

518
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.279
of the programs, and obviously us
in Ucila have probably had the most talks

519
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:20.160
you know, of any any program
going forward. But what it's going to

520
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:23.079
look like in the future, all
right, guys, have a great one.

521
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:29.440
Tommy Lloyd unplugged. Yeah, you
know, a little bit of everything,

522
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:30.559
right. Yeah, there's a lot
of stuff. Yeah, a lot

523
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:32.640
of stuff to react to. So
let's, uh, we'll do that,

524
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:36.000
take our break. Yeah, we'll
do that and get some questions in and

525
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:37.559
Tommy, I mean Tommy, Yeah, give us a call. Sammy has

526
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.880
one five, two zero four,
one six, seventy four forty and Steve

527
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:44.440
and I and maybe a little bit
of Sammy will react to some of the

528
00:33:44.440 --> 00:34:04.279
stuff Tommy just covered. So'll stick
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This is I on the Ball on
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572
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back to my I on the back
around Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve

573
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Rivera. You're Jagins always got Sammy
with us, Jay, I'm disappointed in

574
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you. I am very disappointed.
Two days ago it was National Curmudgeons Day

575
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:36.360
and you got me nothing. You
did not get me a pro I just

576
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:40.639
find this out just now. I
am disappointed and as Steve, I missed

577
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it. You know you need it. You need to like slip a little

578
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note somewhere. I just realized that
tell me no cup of CODs and no

579
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cup you know or whatever, any
old flowers. I like flowers. I'll

580
00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:59.800
give you a next time. No, never mind, never mind. Hey,

581
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.199
before we go on, something that
Tommy Lloyd mentioned at the at the

582
00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:07.000
top of his press conferences. There
there's a an auction taking place of shoes

583
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:13.760
that that the coaches have been wearing
as part of the It's It's Yeah Coaches

584
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:20.119
Versus Cancer awareness. They they took
some shoes, some Nike Air Force ones,

585
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:23.159
which are sort of the most popular
shoe right now, and the coaches

586
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:30.280
along with the kids at the Diamond
Children's Medical Center cancer patients, they colored

587
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:35.880
these shoes and various patterns, various
things, and they're they're being auctioned between

588
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.320
now and February tenth. The coaches
will be wearing again, wearing them again,

589
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:43.639
coaches and staff because like Matt and
Sore and uh and and Nate Whakers

590
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:49.039
who are the media guys, their
shoes are in here. Brian Brigger who's

591
00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.400
the equipment manager. But all you
know, the staff and the coaches.

592
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:57.320
They've got all these shoes and they're
being auctioned on a site called You Arizona

593
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:02.360
the letter you Arizona dot give smart
dot com and the proceeds benefit the Diamond

594
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:07.519
Children's Medical Center as well as the
play zone that they're trying to build over

595
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:10.840
there. The shoes are funny.
There's a page that you can see all

596
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.679
the shoes. Some shoes looked like
they came right out of the factory and

597
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.599
Nike. I mean they're just perfectly
done. Then others are like finger painted.

598
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:20.960
I went, I went to the
event. I went to the vent.

599
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:27.920
Was it was a better Diamond childrens
uh and saw the interviewed I interviewed

600
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:31.960
what's his name, I'm getting old
Keisha Johnson. Yeah, he was one

601
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.840
of the guys. But the four
of the guys showed up with little kids.

602
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:37.639
There was a little kid, a
little boy about two years old,

603
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.719
and he just got all his hands
all messed up and he turned them all

604
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:45.360
over the shoes. So it was
it was a cute day, dude.

605
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:47.280
The smart event, Yeah, smart
event. So I'm sure people will buy

606
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:51.920
those shoes there there's nineteen different pairs
of shoes. You can go to the

607
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:54.480
website and uh and if you want
to bid on them, you can.

608
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:59.719
Uh. Tommy Lloyd had the shoes
that that he's wearing. He had them

609
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.639
on the on the on the table
on display at the at his press conference

610
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:07.000
today. But go to you Arizona
dot give smart dot com and bid on

611
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:13.480
those shoes and raise some money for
for the Diamond Children's Medical Center, the

612
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:16.519
cancer services as well as the plays
on the truck. Right. Yeah,

613
00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:20.880
no, very good, very good
event. Uh. Okay, so let's

614
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:23.880
go send me your first question or
what you was your impressional that you had

615
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:27.239
something? Oh? No, yeah. I think Tommy always does a really

616
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.960
good job. And we were talking
about obviously with Jed Leavin and the whole

617
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:36.360
how that happened all in this muck, in this mix. There was like

618
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:40.119
a day where Tommy and Juve was
trying to get a contract contract extension and

619
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:44.599
they asked him about it, and
not that he deflected the question. I

620
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.800
think he was just being honest of
it's it's not done yet, we're looking

621
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.679
to kind of do that. And
I would just ask you guys, I

622
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:53.519
was like, are you guys at
all worried that A, maybe this doesn't

623
00:40:53.559 --> 00:41:00.400
get done, and B we have
this similar situation with Tommy that we did

624
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.119
with Jed. No, no,
I don't. I didn't think so either,

625
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:06.480
because of what he said at the
very end, I'm all in.

626
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:12.000
Yeah, and you know what after
saying the reaction to Jetfish leaving, who

627
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:15.039
kind of was saying the same thing, I'm all in. And how pissed

628
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:20.840
off people got Tommy's here. You
know, look, this was this was

629
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:22.639
you know, Tommy said when he
got here, this was his dream job.

630
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.800
This was the only job he was
leaving Gonzaga for. Jedfish was gonna

631
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:29.599
take any freaking job that opened up, right, And then he did it

632
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.079
again. I mean, if it
wasn't Arizona, you know, three years

633
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.920
ago, it would have been somewhere
else. It'd been anywhere else, anywhere

634
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:38.280
I can get a hit coaching job. And then as soon as he got

635
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:40.840
an opportunity at a better one,
he was going to the next one.

636
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.400
You know. I had another another
buddy of mine at lunch and he said,

637
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:45.800
you know, we're talking about Dave
he Key, you know, uh

638
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.920
getting fired. He said, yeah, Well, if he had gotten the

639
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.719
contract and I said, stop,
no, stop, he was he was

640
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:57.760
leaving. Don't you think it's just
really weird. We're in this business,

641
00:41:57.800 --> 00:41:59.880
the news business, has had been
in it for a long time. How

642
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:04.960
people either don't pay attention and I'm
not saying here, or they just don't

643
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.559
watch enough of the news. It'll
put the pieces together and you just go

644
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.159
what they think is right. Yeah, and that's not right. No,

645
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:14.920
that's not right. And and and
it's a narrative that obviously fishes can't put

646
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:19.559
out there. You know I didn't
get my contracts. Stop saying that,

647
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:23.199
because we know you were leaving anyway, you were going if the contract had

648
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:28.679
been done. I still say the
contract had been done in December, the

649
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.320
day after the Album Bowl, he
still would have been in Washington a week

650
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.880
Washington. You would have been in
Washington a week later, So stop it,

651
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:37.480
or maybe two weeks. It would
have been two weeks later for the

652
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:44.320
the National Championship Game. He was
leaving. And anybody who thinks otherwise,

653
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:47.119
I'm telling you right now, you
have no idea. You're full of very

654
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:51.440
true, very true. So one
of the things that I can't remember.

655
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:53.599
God, today is not a good
day for memory. He talked about go

656
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:57.199
ahead, well, I liked you
know what he when he got asked about

657
00:42:57.480 --> 00:42:59.840
why it's so hard to win on
the road, you know, his response

658
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:05.360
was, there's players one who have
stayed longer. You got a bunch of

659
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:09.400
fifth and sixth year seniors out there
playing on various teams too. The talent

660
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:15.119
has spread through the transfer portal and
with nil and all this stuff. So

661
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:19.480
he said, you're running into teams
out there who have players that they didn't

662
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:22.719
used to have. Sure, I
think part of the problem of not being

663
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:27.280
a good team earlier or whatever is
the chemistry gets effected because you have these

664
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:30.679
guys right, traveling and moving all
over and not just for two years,

665
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:32.159
it's for one year. It's hard
to mix them in. You know,

666
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:37.440
come on, how are you gonna
put kileb in in what he does his

667
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:40.280
skill set with this team that was
pretty good already and then not piss off

668
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:45.119
a few players, right, Yeah, And you know, and and the

669
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:49.239
coaches that can do that, that
can get those players to come in for

670
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.320
a year and contribute and be happy
with that. Those are the coaches that

671
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.159
succeed, and those are the teams
that succeed. But there's so many other

672
00:43:55.199 --> 00:44:00.480
teams that don't sure, and you
get on the road where it's us against

673
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:06.599
them, us against the world,
and if you're not on the same page,

674
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:09.239
it's easy to lose. And that's
what and that's what's happening out there.

675
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:12.760
What else were the topics in that
conversation. There was a long one

676
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:15.880
that I I speech that I should
have written it down. Well, he

677
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.119
got asked about Colin Boswell like,
oh, you know, you know what

678
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.239
you know basically, you know,
was it something? You know, he

679
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:24.039
just said, con just played better. He was more aggressive. You know,

680
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:27.599
he took the ball, he said
there. You know a couple of

681
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.320
times you know that, you know
other games where he would you know,

682
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:32.880
he was looking he was not being
as aggressive, you know, he said

683
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.000
he I think he said that in
the light. In the previous two games

684
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:39.199
he had gone into the lane one
time. He said, you know,

685
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:43.760
on Saturday, he just he went
back to being doing what he had been

686
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:45.960
doing, right. I thought that
was a real interesting, uh thing,

687
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:49.519
that he just played better. And
that's what he said about the whole team,

688
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.199
said, we just have to play
better. And that's it. It's

689
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.920
it's it's not complicated. And here's
and here's the rub. You can say

690
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:59.599
that some of the people doing,
you know, the stuff I read,

691
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.239
would just sad that I read this. How come Tommy doesn't get on him?

692
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.360
How come he's not that I saw
that. It's not who he is.

693
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.760
He's not going to do that publicly. He's not going to be screaming

694
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:15.320
at this guy from the bench like
like a Mick uh Cronan does and telling

695
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.519
you know, he's not going to
tell his players that they're embarrassing the university

696
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.239
as they're coming off the court like
I've seen him do. Well, let's

697
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.559
I'll take you back to a couple
of years ago when UCLA got to the

698
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:29.920
final four. Right, what was
the reason when they got to the final

699
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:35.400
four Michigan States? Is so that
game that they that game he was berating

700
00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:37.400
the guy up the ramp, right
and one of his best players. They

701
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.800
had a ten point lead, kicking
the crap out of Ucla. They came

702
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:44.719
back and got me. They were
they just came out and it was like

703
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:46.920
they said, screw you, I'm
not playing for you exactly right exactly,

704
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:50.920
And so Tommy's not going to do
that. And if you're expecting Tommy to

705
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.960
do that, then yeah, go
yeah, go see go go watch u

706
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.960
c l A. Okay, he's
not going to do that. He's not

707
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:00.079
that coach and he's you know,
he's not going to be that coach.

708
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:06.679
The second thing is is, oh, we got called it right. Hi,

709
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:08.519
you're on the ar and I on
the ball. Hey guys, how

710
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:14.719
you doing? What's going on?
Power? Hey? What did he say

711
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:17.039
about culinary dropout? Well, that's
when I came in on the press const

712
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:20.400
that's what I wanted to talk.
Well, that's when he was talking about

713
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:22.360
that. He's here, he's dug
in. He said, it's a great

714
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.800
place to be. They had an
event, culinary drop out of staff event

715
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:30.280
for everybody McHale and there were two
hundred people there. They all went and

716
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:32.599
had a great time. He said, I love it here pub because he'll

717
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:35.840
keep being gone. I mean,
you had to get some team bonding.

718
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:37.559
Well, yeah, they had to
do something to kind of reassure people that

719
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:42.280
things are okay. But that's what
it was. There was a big McHale,

720
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.679
well, a natheleactic department event that
culinary dropout, right, because that's

721
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:51.239
the rest of it, Because you're
you're where met my dad and myself.

722
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:55.239
A second generation homebuilder. We Grant
Lumber was the place we started fifty years

723
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:59.880
ago. My dad, Oh you
guys, Yeah, should I ask if

724
00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:02.559
you mean? If you? Guy
was a fantastic play and that's why they

725
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.039
see that grand Ward Lumber playing.
We've called it the meeting place. Later

726
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:09.360
on in life, like when the
two thousand and you'd see people you hadn't

727
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:14.360
seen for years. So who said
it on fire? No? They Yeah,

728
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.639
there was a fire in this that
went down to the Marshmallow roads.

729
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.760
I shouldn't laugh at that. But
remember he was saying about developing those guys

730
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:28.639
and I was thinking that too,
And you guys are you guys are great?

731
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:31.639
When we get into the Big twelve, they're gonna have to have a

732
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.280
go deeper on a bench. And
in my opinion, he's got to cultivate

733
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.079
a bench for the tournament too.
Period. It's too late for that.

734
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:44.920
It's too late for that. Ye
he's got a man. No, No,

735
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:46.519
well no, I don't think so. On the blow up games,

736
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:50.559
I think they're going to blow off
both these teams and they're going to get

737
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:54.840
some playing team. I understand in
the gritness they they got to because they

738
00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:00.280
said they're great players. I understand
it's too late, but in my it's

739
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:02.119
never too late. Well, the
poem is, you've already gone through what

740
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:07.000
twenty games or whatever, and you
played with the same guys during tough games.

741
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:09.800
Sure play him in blowouts. Yeah, but you're not gonna play him

742
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:14.199
in tough games because you would have
already done that. Who do it's who

743
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.880
do you trust as you get deeper
into the tournament or into the season.

744
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:22.079
But you never know the nerses.
You just never know, you know the

745
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:28.519
you know the miracles. Okay,
Hey, I gotta say one thing because

746
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:31.159
I'm sure drinking some like beer,
just I have to that. Gabriel,

747
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:37.159
we love him and you're gonna laugh
at this, Steve, we love him

748
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.360
like Brian. And I knew Brian
before. I love Brian, remember back

749
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:45.679
in the day this. I know, Gate's a little more there than Brian.

750
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:49.480
But he's on sin ice because he
gets a little too excited. And

751
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.840
you got to have your finger over
the button. That for you, Howard,

752
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:58.239
too for you. Well now I'm
a little bit I'm double his age.

753
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.400
I think I can control myself.
Okay, Okay, thanks Howard.

754
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.480
That's funny, because I did want
to talk about the culinary drop off.

755
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.480
There more of a team bondy.
It's funny because someone says, I wonder

756
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:13.960
if the athletic department page for that. They're still spending money. They're not

757
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:16.920
going to stop spending money totally,
but you know, but yeah, here's

758
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:20.880
another call. Let's take this.
Ah, you're on the air and I

759
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:23.000
on the ball. Hey, what's
going on, guys, it's James,

760
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:27.599
James. What's up? Ah?
Not much. I was wondering if you

761
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:32.679
saw the North Carolina game yesterday.
Yes, Damon Stodermayer beats up on North

762
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:38.119
Carolina. He's got a duke and
North Carolina's number now right right? Yeah,

763
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:42.880
No, it was fine. I
only caught the last minute because I

764
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:46.000
actually flipped it over to see what
Kansas was doing against Oklahoma State and the

765
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:50.519
North Carolina game had not ended,
so I caught the very end of it.

766
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.400
But that was you know, that
was an interesting ending for North Carolina.

767
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:59.880
Yeah, well, just get to
see Damon having some sex success for

768
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.960
is the top schools in the a
CC and curious what he would be able

769
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:07.280
to do with five and four star
recruits coming in all the time. Yeah,

770
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.119
well, he might eventually make that
happen. Over there, and you

771
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:12.400
know this is his first year.
Yeah, Georgia Tech is you know,

772
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:14.920
I mean, it's got some history, it's you know, it's it's not

773
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:20.239
like a scrub school. So you'll
have an opportunity over there. But I'm

774
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:25.360
glad that Tommy doesn't scream it as
players like some other coaches. Now,

775
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.920
yeah, we were having that conversation
just a minute ago. And you guys

776
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:36.400
remember the Tarzuski scenario that was on
national TV very much so we did,

777
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.960
so we know, what are you
talking about anyway? If you guys take

778
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:45.039
care Thames? Yeah, so you
know against Steve, I mean, you

779
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:50.400
know on that subject, he's just
if that's what you're looking for, then

780
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:54.159
then you need right, well,
you don't follow somebody. How how consistent

781
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:59.440
can you be? Discooed the football
program we had. We had Stoops.

782
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:02.199
We had a Dick who was who
was calm and composed right maca I can't

783
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.519
remember. He was more business like. We didn't give a crab okay,

784
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:07.320
So then Stoops was crazy on the
side. People had issues with that.

785
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.880
Then you had who was after him, Rich Rod Rich Rod. He was

786
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.679
kind of crazy on the side.
He would yell at his guys in a

787
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:16.599
way that you would go that's a
little okay over the time, and then

788
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:21.800
you went to someone who didn't give
a crab. So there's gotta be a

789
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:25.159
fightline subwhere somewhere in there. Well, somebody's gonna be unhappy with if he

790
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:29.679
was yelling in his players all the
time. Somebody would say players all the

791
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:32.880
time. Point he still he still
gets hot sometimes when stuff happens. But

792
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:37.719
he has a standard and that's I've
seen him growl at the refs and he

793
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:42.679
does. And but you know,
you feel like he picks and chooses his

794
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.079
spots when when he's when he's read
in the phase, you know something is

795
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:50.760
wrong. Right, all right,
we're done that one kind of fast Steve

796
00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:58.159
again. We pulled one together again. Sam. We've got Reggie Gary coming

797
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.760
into Mark review the air. The
he's coming up against Callon Stamford, So

798
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:06.039
come back for that and we'll be
and then right and then we'll have somebody

799
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.079
from the Color Guard Classic. We'll
talk the golf tournament coming up here,

800
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:14.840
so be sure to come back tomorrow. I can see their way from here,

801
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:27.199
can't you see hell on the window? Open? Confuse never every time

802
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:31.320
you touch me, I just smelt
fool away. God after whi