WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:05.000 His clients call him the energetic plumber, and he guesses as to why Nope, 2 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:10.240 So you're just thinking that's exactly right. Yeah, when you think of 3 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:14.560 a plumber coming in and you know, your sink gets a little clog and 4 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:17.679 all of a sudden, the water starts overflowing and he starts collecting all this 5 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:21.719 crowd or whatever. The same thing happens in our bodies with energy. So 6 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:27.280 he actually goes in and through visualization he helps people, like he visualizes the 7 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:32.679 energies in the blockages, and he helps people to heal themselves of those blockages. 8 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:35.280 Why don't we let him tell us about that? You know what, 9 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:40.520 that's probably a better idea. My name is will and I and unlike Boulder 10 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:50.240 and Scully, so we've embarked in a journey of discovery. Welcome to Skeptics 11 00:00:50.399 --> 00:01:04.359 Classic. You are listening to Classic Skeptic Metaphysicians. Welcome to our version of 12 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:10.400 a walkdown memory Lane as we present classics from the Skeptic met Physician Library, 13 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:26.799 warts and all. Hey, everyone, welcome back to another episode of the 14 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.159 Skeptic Metaphysician. I'm trying, Karen, I'm trying to do things differently every 15 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.239 time there's only so many times you can say welcome. There was a hesitation 16 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.319 on that. Heyos I know, because I've thought I was going to say 17 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.719 something first, and then I went off in a complete different direction and I 18 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:40.959 had no idea what was happening, so I just kind of went with it. 19 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:45.439 I see that, did it sound good? Keep going the magic of 20 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:49.400 editing? Okay, well, Karen again, excited about our next guest. 21 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:53.000 We've already had a chance to talk to him previously, and in fact, 22 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.799 his episode is one of the top five most downloaded episodes of our show. 23 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:04.079 You aware that now? Yeah, super excited because we're talking about healing and 24 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:06.840 at the end of the day, that's what the show is, truly, 25 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:10.039 it's for it's to find ways to heal. So once again I want to 26 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:15.240 introduce to the show our friend Scott Clover. Scott, thanks so much for 27 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.039 coming on the show. Hi both give you thanks to be here. Always 28 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:20.759 fun to have you. It's great to see you again. So did that 29 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.840 intro do any justice to what you do? Sure? I mean, I'm 30 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:28.919 an intuitive energy healer, so that means I see in sense energy patterns that 31 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:32.280 are in and around people's bodies, in and around their soul patterns, their 32 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:37.479 emotions, their histories. And there's a lot of books out there like The 33 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:42.560 Body Bears the Brunt or The Body Tells the Story. My biology is my 34 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:46.199 biography, or my biography is my biology, has been said. And so 35 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:51.039 what I do is I help people understand where their blockages are. They see 36 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:54.599 them in their own accord. They see them for what they are and not 37 00:02:54.879 --> 00:03:00.159 what their stories they've told themselves over the years to get them to be feel 38 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:05.120 play capable or to feel acceptable without getting rid of them. I help them 39 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:09.479 see what the sort of original patterns are and in observing those original patterns, 40 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:14.360 it helps release them. It helps them get a handle on it, as 41 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:19.159 opposed to a thirty year old story that doesn't resemble the original impact. Right. 42 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:23.479 The intuition side of my work comes from me being able to see what 43 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:28.960 and where those impacts happened in their body or their psyche, or their family 44 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:34.560 line or their genetic code, or it happened to their great great grandfather. 45 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:39.120 All of these things can impact the individual that I'm working with. And if 46 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:44.800 you go and you talk about your issues with someone who's not trained in intuition, 47 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:47.960 you're just recounting the same story. And you know, I had a 48 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.479 talk therapist for years and it didn't get me very far. I used to 49 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.960 go and say, you know, I dream the future and sometimes I see 50 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:59.840 things that happen in months in advance, and well, we don't want to 51 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:01.599 talk about that now. It turns out that was one of my major issues 52 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:06.599 I was having, was figuring out what I was perceiving was actually justifiable and 53 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:12.280 not something outside of my own personal realm. It may not have made sense 54 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.719 to those around me, but it certainly made sense to me, and so 55 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:19.319 trying to fit someone like me or someone who's hearing this into a box of 56 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:27.000 psychotherapy just wasn't where my issues lied. So I fortunately found someone in my 57 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:30.639 neighborhood in Manhattan similar enough to min now skill set. They were like a 58 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:34.480 holistic therapist, I would say, and they allowed me to sort of be 59 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:39.120 more comfortable in my body, which allowed my intuition to flourish, which then 60 00:04:39.279 --> 00:04:43.839 led me to realizing I can study it well enough and long enough that I'm 61 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:47.800 able to now help people with their own either intuition, accepting their own intuition, 62 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:53.959 or accepting and releasing patterns or traumas that they've held in their body, 63 00:04:54.040 --> 00:05:00.240 or their soul pattern or their family life on our previous conversation. It came 64 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:04.399 at it because you actually offered me a session before we recorded the interview, 65 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:10.399 and we walked through the process on the last episode. So if you've not 66 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.600 heard the show yet, I would recommend you go back and listen to it. 67 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:16.680 The Intuitive Healer Scott Clover is the title, and it'll give you a 68 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:20.079 really good idea of what the process is like. You also did the same 69 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:26.319 thing for Karen this time around. Before this conversation, but before we get 70 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:30.000 to Karen's experience, you mentioned something off camera right before we started recording that 71 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.439 I've got to share because it made me smile. One of the things, 72 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:39.000 probably the biggest thing that happened from my session with you, was there was 73 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.240 a time where I had to say I was a humorless. It's probably not 74 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:46.600 fair, but I don't really laugh at sitcoms or situations. I haven't really 75 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:51.319 I hadn't laughed like truly belly laughed for a long time before you and I 76 00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:56.879 got together, and then during a session, you were able to release something 77 00:05:56.920 --> 00:06:00.000 in me that actually provided me with my very first belly laugh in a long 78 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:04.519 time, and apparently one of our listeners reached out to you because that story 79 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:09.399 resonated with her and she reached out to you because she wanted to laugh as 80 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:12.480 well. So how did that turn out? Yeah, it turned out very 81 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:15.120 well. You know, people resonate with stories when they hear about my work. 82 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:18.639 That's why you know, it's beneficial for you to understand what the work 83 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:23.040 is before we talk about it, just so other people can understand it. 84 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:28.160 For me to sit here without you understanding the work wouldn't be It would be 85 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.240 sort of rhetorical. It's just me talking about it and then say, well 86 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.560 does it really work? And you know, is this person full of it 87 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:38.199 or do they do they know what they're doing, et cetera. And you 88 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:43.519 know, because there's a lot of us that do this work that unfortunately people 89 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.920 want to bring their egos into it and that's not where healing is. Healing 90 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:54.160 comes emboldening people's self esteem. So my story is not important to your healing 91 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:58.759 process. I'm the observer or the librarian, and I will help you factor 92 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:02.199 it in for your sake. So yeah, it did help people understand that 93 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.680 we do hold things in our bodies and they can be as small things. 94 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:12.920 I had a client once years ago who she had migraines as a fifty year 95 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.439 old, and she came and sat with me, and it turns out it 96 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:17.839 was because her mom wouldn't let her wear jeans when she was like twelve years 97 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:24.040 old, and she wasn't allowed to self express and she held that anxiety in 98 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:27.279 her body, and she held that lack of self expression in her body that 99 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:30.560 to the point it became so frustrating on several different factors. And once we 100 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:34.040 released that, her migraines went away and they never came back. I see 101 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:38.000 Karen going back over her life, going hmm, how did I mess up 102 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:45.240 my daughter? Now? Hey at me? That's you, Sorry, Scott, 103 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:47.079 I mean to interrupt you. Oh no, So we all have different 104 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:51.040 things that impact us. And if you don't know the origination point, it's 105 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:56.360 really hard to solve it for you. You can dance around it. It's 106 00:07:56.399 --> 00:08:00.839 almost like trying to kill the roots of a plant from above ground. That's 107 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:03.079 very difficult. So what I do is I say, we pushed the route 108 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:07.240 out from below to expose it, and once it's exposed, you can clear 109 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:13.279 it. And that's because I'm able to see the impacts and sense where they 110 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:16.639 happened, either in the body or in your psyche, But it happens. 111 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:20.959 I mean, I have stories every week about people that are felt limited or 112 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:28.120 felt controlled, or women who were sexualized too early, or boys who were 113 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.399 emasculated to know at a young age, and then it crimps their psyche in 114 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.639 a certain way. And until those kinks can be released and the energy flowing 115 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.879 back again, you're gonna have a hard time, you know, crawling out 116 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:41.799 of that rut that you find yourself in, whether that feels like it's a 117 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:48.200 depressive state. I heard a term a while back, spiritual malaise, and 118 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:52.639 I just really I like that term a lot, unfortunately, because it really 119 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:58.039 explains a lot of what's happening to us now. Is we've been told a 120 00:08:58.039 --> 00:09:01.039 bunch of stuff. Some of it's true, some of it's obviously not true. 121 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:05.080 Our lives have been impacted, and there's so much questioning going on about 122 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.279 how do we exist and subsist in our own societies that for a lot of 123 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:15.559 people, sitting at home for two years has caused a spiritual malaise and going 124 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:20.639 reintroducing ourselves back into society isn't as easy as we assumed it would be two 125 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:22.039 years ago when we thought, oh, we can't wait to jump back into 126 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:26.960 society. Well, society is really not churning itself back in the way it 127 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.879 was before you follow me completely. Yeah. In fact, there's a lot 128 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:35.519 of studies going around about how it was re emerging syndrome RCIA. I forgot 129 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:37.480 what's the name of the term, but there's an actual term now for it 130 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.200 that people. Yeah, that sounds like what I'm similar to what I'm talking 131 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.879 about. But even if you're not ready to re emerge, you still know 132 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:52.360 that something needs to be justified in your own energy, Right, if you're 133 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.440 energetically sensitive, then then you're gonna need to sort of comb out some of 134 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:01.399 the snarls. How much did that impact people that if we've been home and 135 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.399 just kind of keeping our energy for the most part to ourselves, and then 136 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:07.320 all of a sudden you're back and it seems like there is kind of this 137 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:11.320 real negative vibe happening a lot. I mean, that's got to you've got 138 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:15.759 to be busy because I would imagine a lot of people are really being affected 139 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:18.960 by that. Well, there's a negative vibe you know in America socially, 140 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:24.720 right, now as well as individualistically, if that's a word. The individual 141 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.879 once again is trying to say, how do I subsist in my own skin? 142 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.360 How do I survive? How do I get in tune with my own 143 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:35.840 intuition so I'm not overfeeling? Right, And a lot of my work is 144 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:41.200 helping empaths and other intuitives understand their empathy and their intuition so they don't overfeel. 145 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:43.360 One of my podcasts that I have, one of the episodes is called 146 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:46.720 mind your Own Energy, and I'm really pleased with that title that I came 147 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:52.519 up with because people need to start taking care of themselves. Mothers need to 148 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:58.279 stop overgiving because their children don't want the amount of attention or the amount of 149 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:03.440 energy being put upon them, and yet the mother's on autopilot. And so 150 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:09.279 people have to start realistically understanding that their kids need some independence, and their 151 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:15.360 kids need space held for them. And sometimes when a mom is so good 152 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:18.840 at her job at five, she forgets that when the child's or when the 153 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:24.559 child's five years old, she forgets that at fifteen, that energy transference needs 154 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:31.039 to change for an independence to happen on both sides of that equation, because 155 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.080 if you're not feeling independent as a mother, then your child maybe not be 156 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:39.639 feeling an independent as their own person. And children want to see their parents 157 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:46.320 happy. So if you're switching energy back and forth of judgment between oh, 158 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.240 I think my child should be this and the child saying I would like to 159 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.440 express myself this way, and there's a back and forth of that, that's 160 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:58.080 one way how energy can get snarled up and people can misconstrue it, and 161 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:03.440 then once it's misconstrued, those situations can get out of hand unless they're dealt 162 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:09.279 with or understood or what I call accept the existing reality. Meaning your fifteen 163 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:13.559 year old child does not need the same sort of attention that your five year 164 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.480 old child needs. Okay, so you need to give it, please, 165 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:22.080 I'm okay with the child of that. Could you tell my husband that anyway? 166 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.559 So we're talking about energy. The interesting thing about you you sent us 167 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:31.080 a media kid over and we took a look at your skill sets and this 168 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:35.960 stuff that you do isn't just limited to people. You actually are able to 169 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:41.440 help heal for lack of a better term, houses, you do, exorcisms, 170 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.159 you do, you work with past lives. It's just a matter of 171 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:50.840 seeing different energies, right, it's a perception, and then in certain aspects 172 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:54.960 I interact with those energies. I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty. 173 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.360 In terms of a spirit that some people might think is a detrimental spirit, 174 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:01.960 I figured that my job. I'm trained at it. I'm good at it. 175 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:05.960 I don't get because I'm just observing it. And if I observe it 176 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:09.840 and it feels that it's not congruent to the person I'm helping that it's attached 177 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:15.360 to, then we come up together with ways to detach from it. Whether 178 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.919 that's a house, then I do it myself with salts and incenses and copaul 179 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.399 and a whole bunch of stuff I buy at the store, the New Age 180 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.120 store. I do that for houses. I was written up in the Wall 181 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:31.919 Street Journal for doing a sort of a ghost chasing out of a house in 182 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:37.399 Connecticut. So I really take that seriously because there are entities that stick around, 183 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:41.000 and once they stick around and they don't cross over, they kind of 184 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:43.320 get stuck here and then they get confused and they forget how to cross over. 185 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:48.399 So they ask somebody like me, and then I communicate with them in 186 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.279 a certain way and explain to them that they're better off elsewhere. Can you 187 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.559 share with us an example of an experience that you had with that. We've 188 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.919 had a few different people talk about, Oh, you know, I've done 189 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:01.480 exorcisms and they don't really tell us what happened. And obviously you can't go 190 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:05.960 into detail or anything personal. But I am so curious. I mean, 191 00:14:05.120 --> 00:14:11.120 you know, you see the movie You're Traumatized. Yeah, in Amilyville, 192 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:13.080 Connecticut. That's all I want to know. It was not an Anvill. 193 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:18.440 I've met that house. I don't watch those movies because I don't relate to 194 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:20.600 them, mostly because I just see it as a pattern, and there's a 195 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:24.200 desire. That pattern has a desire, meaning if there was an entity or 196 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.399 some you know, a woman in the seventeenth century that's still attached to the 197 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:33.120 house for some reason, it's all just about the story. It's about their 198 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:37.159 story, them being seen and heard and to some degree playcated if it's a 199 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:39.440 spirit. So, yeah, I just did one the other day. I 200 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:43.759 do them over iPad believe it or not, now was COVID. Yeah, 201 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:46.440 because the quantum energy, I don't need to be in the same room to 202 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:50.559 experience what's in that room. So amazing. It's a cross between quote of 203 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:56.679 sort of quantum sensing and remote viewing, if you will. And so I 204 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:58.679 just did one. I've done them in New Zealand. I do them on 205 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:03.600 continents from where I'm at, and it just generally takes an iPad pointed at 206 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:07.720 the ceiling, and then I sort of commune with whatever's there and ask it 207 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:11.159 why it's there, what it needs, where would be better off, and 208 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:13.840 then I generally have an idea of where to send it or to tell it 209 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:18.720 where to go, and I get my point across. I have to say, 210 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:20.759 it's rare that I would have to go back a second time. And 211 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:24.519 sometimes you go back a second time because there's entities that are attached to the 212 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:31.320 larger entity that don't really interact with humans. But if there's a large spirit, 213 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:35.679 like say a dead person attached to the home, or a dead person 214 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:39.320 attached to the geography or the land, it doesn't have to necessarily be the 215 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:43.759 home. The one I did last week in Brooklyn, it was in a 216 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:48.320 new apartment or apartment building built within the last twenty years, but I sensed 217 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.919 it there were spirits there from what was there two buildings ago. So it 218 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:56.240 was more like so probably late eighteenth century. There was a young girl that 219 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.240 just hadn't crossed over and she wanted to be seen, and the new mom 220 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:06.039 and the daughter in the excuse me, the daughter and the family could sense 221 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:10.960 that there was something there. So I worked there for about fifteen twenty minutes 222 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:15.559 with the iPad and then did one of my rituals and then yeah, so 223 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.679 the spirit ended up moving. She's no longer there anymore, and the client's 224 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.759 very happy, and the daughter can't sense it, which I want to say, 225 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:26.519 if you're around children, you can ask them where there's other spirits are 226 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:29.879 in the room, and they generally, if they're connected, they can tell 227 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:33.399 you. Most adults over thirteen or fourteen can't do that, and the adults 228 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:37.840 at thirteen or fourteen year older don't remember having that ability. But if you 229 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.600 ask a five or six year old, hey, do you send anything else 230 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:42.720 in the room, they'll say, oh, there's an old guy laying on 231 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:48.759 the TV, and there's a guy over there laughing. But we don't ask 232 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:51.679 them that as adults because we don't perceive them. We don't want to be 233 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:55.759 scared. No, yeah, we dont thing really scary about it, right, 234 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:57.200 maybe you don't want to know about it, but the children are very 235 00:16:57.240 --> 00:17:00.519 perceptive. I mean, one thing you can do, like newborns or kids 236 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:07.160 that aren't verbal, is take your sort of energy center in your forehead and 237 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:11.119 pretend that it raises up out of your head about three or four inches above 238 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.839 your forehead, and you will actually see the baby's eyes follow where you send 239 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:22.759 your soul energy, because the baby's perceiving more than just the physical entity in 240 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:27.000 front of it. The baby's perceiving energy feels that we are no longer able 241 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:30.359 to see. So if you're ever around like a newborn or like under one 242 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.799 years old, and they're in the crib, you just look, we're in 243 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:38.799 the what is that called papoops thingcinet, just move your energy up off your 244 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:42.640 forehead and the baby's eyes will follow it. It's very interesting. So is 245 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:47.200 a mundane world. A lot of people will think what you're just talking about 246 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:52.599 is maybe not so much spirits or negative entities, but rather energies. Right, 247 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:57.279 negative energies are blocked. But you have been talking about entities, right, 248 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:02.440 Spirits that are blocked, not leaving houses and things like that. I 249 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:06.279 guess you can say it could be one and the same thing, but the 250 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.440 same thing with the baby looking at the energy. I mean, one could 251 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:14.160 be said that could be the aura when you shoot your aura up, baby's 252 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:18.759 noticing that kind of thing. So what makes you so sure that what you 253 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:25.839 do actually is clearing energy and not something that someone goes Well, I feel 254 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:30.960 better because Scott helped me visualize through things and that psychosomatically makes me feel better. 255 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:33.640 Right well, as maybe you both can attest to you from having done 256 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:40.400 a session, you experience it in real time. I'm experiencing it through your 257 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:47.200 sensations, so it's happening to you, and I'm perceiving that it's happening to 258 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:49.839 you. And if you agree with me, then we both experienced it, 259 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:56.680 which makes it more real. Right. So energy the drains out of your 260 00:18:56.680 --> 00:19:02.359 abdomen, for example, will that happened to you and I experienced it alongside 261 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:06.240 of you. So I'm not the one the next day that can say, 262 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:10.079 oh, that didn't happen. That's on you, sure, But we perceived 263 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:14.039 it at the same time we did. And I wanted you to talk about 264 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:17.480 that because it's easy for me to say, yes, this is real or 265 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:22.279 for me, what made it real was not just the immediate visualization of the 266 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:25.759 thing, but actually what happened afterwards where I actually had to call you and 267 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:29.400 say, dude, you got to do something. I'm freaking out right, 268 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:32.559 and that does it just didn't happen to me. So for it to happen 269 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:34.359 that actually the opposite of how you said, what happened to me? But 270 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:41.000 yet the energy that was stored in me afterwards was painfully obvious that something had 271 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:45.279 changed. It's hard for me to express that on a microphone. So what 272 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:49.759 I'm trying to do is get a viewpoint out to the audience so that they 273 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:55.200 can wrap their heads around it without actually experiencing it. Well, i mean, 274 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.279 obviously they should reach out to you right to experience it first and foremost, 275 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:00.079 because that's the best way to experience it. But I'm hoping we have 276 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:04.480 a way to really explain how the stuff works. Then it's how this stuff 277 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:10.839 works. Yeah, it's energy gets coagulated, stuck, stemy, and if 278 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:14.440 you're not perceiving where you know, if you don't know, you have leaves 279 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:17.920 in your gutter and your gutters are overflowing, and you look in the gutters 280 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:21.839 you find the leaves. Well, they're not going to clear themselves. Right, 281 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:26.200 So if you think of it that way, I help you understand where 282 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:32.799 your gutters are leafy if you will, and then give you the embolden you 283 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:36.200 to take the stick and pull the leaves off. It doesn't do so much 284 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:38.400 good if I do it for you, because they may come back. But 285 00:20:38.440 --> 00:20:41.880 if you do it, then either you've learned how to do it, or 286 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:47.519 it knows that you were you meant business, because it's your psyche that's willing 287 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:52.039 or wanting to change. So you show up with the desire or the intention 288 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:56.440 to heal, your body's going to respond. And if you show up with 289 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:02.079 the intention to heal and there's self esteem behind in that act, your body's 290 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:08.079 going to respond even better with more efficacy and more chances that you will feel 291 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:14.279 lighter longer. Or expose it and remove it to the point that it doesn't 292 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:19.759 come back. Whether that's a trauma or an emotional story, or a breakup 293 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:25.400 or a divorce, right, a lot of people have been divorced for a 294 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:30.039 decade and they still haven't gotten over it. Well, that impacts the children 295 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.200 involved, or the parents of those people, or the sisters and brothers of 296 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:38.079 those people. You know, one faulty relationship can cause havoc in a whole 297 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:42.599 family unless it's somehow resolved in the individual that had happened to And those are 298 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:47.400 the things that I help people do. So and Will, you've told me 299 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:48.640 a lot, but it's been a while, so I don't remember all the 300 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:52.759 details of your experience. But you said, like this energy draining out of 301 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.880 your stomach. For me, the thing that impacted me most with these flashes 302 00:21:55.920 --> 00:22:02.960 of really bright colors, so bright purple and just really intense. How could 303 00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:06.160 the experiences be so different? And do those colors mean anything, by the 304 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:10.119 way, they probably in the moment meant something, Karen, The experience were 305 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:15.920 different because we came at the session with two different intentions. Will's was he 306 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:19.119 was having, you know, actual situations that he didn't want to feel as 307 00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:25.680 impacted by those situations. Yours was more of a I just want to feel 308 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:32.200 better in my body without us dictating a specific incident, right. And that's 309 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.839 the thing about my work that I like is I can do both. And 310 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:37.039 you know, in Will's case, it was take the largest elephant out of 311 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:41.119 the room that was causing all some blockages so he can laugh again. And 312 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:44.960 in your case, it was more like, let's plant some flowers so they 313 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:49.319 grow faster. It's like over lapping or lasting around, you know, the 314 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:55.640 right description. Mellow feeling definitely kind of I don't know, have you noticed 315 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:59.599 that will probably not been feel mello since oh yeah, since our session you 316 00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:04.960 mean your yeah, yeah, because there's a sense of relief that now you're 317 00:23:06.000 --> 00:23:11.680 not taking those energy points that used to have to ignore what was bothering you. 318 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:15.240 If we get rid of it, then you have those energy points to 319 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.240 spend on something else, and in your case, it's not feeling as anxious. 320 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:22.359 And that's one of the aspects I really like about my job is to 321 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:30.680 take people who normally have overactive nervous systems and through somatic visualizations and somatic techniques 322 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:34.400 that I know really help them relax in their own nervous systems. So it 323 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.839 just sort of spread a calm, as I said, not through their their 324 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:42.440 system only, but through their household. You know, imagine the children of 325 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:47.480 a less anxious mother that those are those are happier children, yeah, right, 326 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:52.000 Or the imagine a father that learns how to become a better boss and 327 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:53.880 doesn't bring that stuff home with him. Yeah, you know, these are 328 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:59.640 the things that I like about my job is to help people energetically become better 329 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.720 boss because we're not trained to become a boss in our society. We're trained 330 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:07.119 to become an employee. And sometimes when people get promoted, they don't understand 331 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.839 the energy transference and sort of that archetypal change. So Karen is speaking of 332 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:18.400 your experience. Did you have anything a day or two afterwards like I did, 333 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:21.880 where you actually have to reach out to Scott again or anything. I 334 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.400 didn't. I mean a bonus that I had the next day. I didn't 335 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:27.640 have any back pain. Sadly the back pain's back. I was hoping that 336 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.960 would last longer. But no, I didn't. I didn't have that situation 337 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:33.559 that you had, that kind of anxiety or whatever was that you had. 338 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:38.319 And did anything happen during the session, like Scott instructed me to just release 339 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.119 some of the stuff that was inside me into a candle and when I did 340 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:47.880 that, I saw literally the candle flame just just flare up. Anything like 341 00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:49.079 that happened with you, Well, I had my eyes closed the whole time. 342 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:55.640 Oh okay, maybe, Well you were speaking more about experiencing light, 343 00:24:56.039 --> 00:25:00.200 like feeling physical light happening like a like a you know, discotheque was going 344 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:07.920 on in your perception that that is at chi flowing in either new ways or 345 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:12.039 clearing out old pathways and rekindling itself. You know, it's like when your 346 00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:15.039 leg falls asleep and then it starts to tingle when the blood goes back to 347 00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:21.240 it. Energetically speaking, if we remove some of those energetic barriers for whatever 348 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:25.359 reason they were there, then more chi or more life force comes in, 349 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:27.599 which causes a light show in your brain. It was kind of like it 350 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:32.920 reminded you of like those psychedelic, kind of hippie flower like colors bubble in 351 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:36.759 and out. Yeah yeah. I refer to it sometimes as the law of 352 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:41.440 a lamp. Yes, yeah, yeah. God. People start to get 353 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:44.680 in tune with those subtle energies. A session with me is oh, I've 354 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:48.079 blocked out that time I'm going to meet with Scott. It's like giving yourself 355 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:52.720 permission to clue into another paradigm. Right. If you look at my nomenclature, 356 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:55.839 if you look at you know, what's on my business card, it 357 00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:59.559 says intuitive energy. Heel. You're not coming to me to tell me your 358 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:03.960 story, you get You're coming to me to experience that story in a new 359 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.759 way to get rid of it. And I'm you know, I'm really good 360 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:11.240 at helping people do that. I have to say you you by us. 361 00:26:11.319 --> 00:26:12.759 The two of us both agree you are very good at what you do. 362 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:18.680 So we need to take a quick break, but we'll be right back with 363 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:30.079 more amazing conversation on the skeptic metaphysicians. If this makes sense when you look 364 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:37.039 into Eastern practices like feng shui and even martial arts, where it's all about 365 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.720 moving energies and moving talking about energies, yeah, yeah, talking about fanks 366 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:48.400 ray specifically, it the way that you situate things in your room blocks energy 367 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:53.799 or lets energy flow, and that brings well being or not. So it 368 00:26:55.160 --> 00:27:00.759 just stand to reason that internally it would be the same thing inside our own 369 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:06.599 bodies, but as well in our own homes. Now, can you help 370 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:11.680 people with their feng shue or is that just beyond your expertise. I know 371 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:14.839 a little bit about funk shwei. Generally, what I can do is, 372 00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:18.200 as I say, remote view inside the room the person sitting in and tell 373 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:22.519 them that there's something in their bookshelf behind them that's in congruous to them moving 374 00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:26.640 forward. Can you do that really, yeah, Or sometimes I send people 375 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:30.759 send me a picture of their altars. A lot of people make an altar 376 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:33.039 that they have symbols that mean something to them. They put an a a 377 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:37.240 crystal over here, and they put another crystal over here, and they send 378 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:38.240 me the photo and I'll go, whoa, who whoa. No, that 379 00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:41.200 celestite needs to go on the left because I'm trying to clear that. And 380 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.960 that upcitia needs to be outside your room. Don't put up city in your 381 00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.559 house. And you know, sometimes I somebody will send me or I'll sense 382 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.119 their altar and tell them that something needs to shift. And when they do 383 00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.720 that, you hear it almost an audible oh you know, it made them 384 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.480 feel better. I remember once I had Karen Rausch Carter, who's my friend 385 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:04.319 who's a famous functory person. She was over at my house and I had 386 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:08.200 a picture of water and the picture of water was higher up on the wall, 387 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.359 and she said, wow, you don't put pictures of water over your 388 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:17.519 head because it makes you feel like you're drowning. And we took that picture 389 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.319 of water and we put it below my chin line, and no joke, 390 00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:26.000 I went, I did feel better. So it's symbolism. In my case, 391 00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:30.720 it's a lot of imagination. It's a lot of middle aged people that 392 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.400 I work with in telling them and helping them to engage with their childhood imagination 393 00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:40.599 where creativity and reality neat because for a lot of times, and what people 394 00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:44.839 don't talk about in Western society, in Western medicine is something's happening in your 395 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:48.319 imagination. A lot of times your body can't tell the difference whether it's happening 396 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:52.720 in real time or not. So your body responds in kind, which is 397 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:57.160 why I really like helping adults re engage or what I call evoke their childhood 398 00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:03.039 imagination because it's in that point that the self esteem is bolstered, and also 399 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:08.200 they can create a sense of safety in their minds that their nervous system responds 400 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:17.640 to. So you're like a biological functuey expert bio energetic fung shuey bio energetics. 401 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:22.200 Yeah, I would say, but there's also funcshue isn't the best way 402 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.000 to describe it. But in this case, it's helping energy align itself right. 403 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:32.240 And if something bad happened to your grandfather and your father's holding it in 404 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:36.119 his body, then you're likely holding some resonant of that in your body as 405 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:38.759 well, and if you don't know that, then you're going to keep trying 406 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:44.279 to fix something other than what the actual issue is. So you come to 407 00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:45.880 somebody like me and I sense, oh, something happened to your great great 408 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:51.160 grandfather or your great grandfather, and the shame that he felt is carried in 409 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:55.599 your dad's body, which then you mimic that. It's very common for the 410 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:57.480 child to want to take away the strife of the grief of the parent, 411 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:00.920 and all they do is maulta apply it. They don't actually take it away. 412 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:04.480 So then it gets carried down through generations. And you hear a lot 413 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:10.240 of people now talking about generational patterns. Well, generational patterns is just the 414 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:14.880 vibration that the child mimicked from the parent thinking it was trying to relieve it, 415 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:17.599 and instead of relieving it, all they do is match it, and 416 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:22.599 now they duplicate it. I could see how that goes with generational thought processes 417 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.720 and even past lives, which we talked about a little bit. So I 418 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.559 see on your some of the skill sets that you have you help people develop 419 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.680 their intuition. YEA, how how does what you do the energy work. 420 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.480 Help people to develop their own intuition. Well, that can be a lot 421 00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:42.799 of different ways. The main way is to accept that you are intuitive. 422 00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:47.759 And if you self accept then you're a lot more prone to utilize it for 423 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:53.000 good and to have it be functional. A maligned intuition just holds us back 424 00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:57.359 or makes us cranky. Right, So if I can help people understand how 425 00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:00.480 they're intuitive better. Some people feel with their guts, Some people feel with 426 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:06.519 their third eyes. Some people have what I can see as like an inverted 427 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:11.440 unicorn whore in that their antenna should be growing out of their forehead, but 428 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.480 for some reason or another, it's grown inward and now they're not utilizing their 429 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.279 intuition. They're being held back by it. Right. If I think of 430 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:26.240 my grandfather, who was very intuitive, and I get this from my parental 431 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:30.200 line, my fraternal line or paternal line, I should say, you know, 432 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:36.079 my grandfather drank every day from a teenager until he was ninety eight years 433 00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:37.720 old, and I think it was just to stop these voices in his head. 434 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.880 And when I think about him now, I see this like blood broken 435 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:47.559 off unicornhre in that he just didn't know how to access and that's just not 436 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:51.160 something I wanted to keep incorporating. And so I sense that in other people, 437 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:56.920 somehow their intuition was either blocked or stymied to protect them or to protect 438 00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.880 their grandfather or their grandmother, and then so their mother's intuition with stymeat or 439 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:06.559 hindered, and so they get the family ability, but yet they also get 440 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:10.839 the inability to express themselves passed down. So it just can depend a lot 441 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:15.559 of times. Sometimes when I work with people and we do that energetic plumbing 442 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.440 as you call it, their intuition starts to flutter and eventually flourish just because 443 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.680 they're accepting it. If you accept it, then the intuition comes a lot 444 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.640 easier. Are you one of those folks that believe that everyone is intuitive or 445 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:30.480 are there some more than others? Well, yeah, I believe that everyone 446 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:36.559 has intuition. But just like a marathon runner, I'm not a Kenyan, 447 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:40.000 so I don't run marathons because I'm built differently. But if I wanted to 448 00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.799 run a marathon, I'd ask a Kenyan to run a marathon because they seem 449 00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:46.880 to be more built for it. Right, So some people just have more 450 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:52.640 prowess. Some people have larger satellite dishes. My satellite dish is very large, 451 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:58.880 and over the years, I built it on a structure that can support 452 00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.880 it, and because of that, I can now help people utilize theirs. 453 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:06.079 A lot of people want to be top heavy. A lot of people think, 454 00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:08.079 oh, let me be intuitive and open up all my upper chakras and 455 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:12.759 then I'm going to talk to the Palladians. And that's great for them, 456 00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:15.240 But if they're not grounded in their body, and they're not grounded and feeling 457 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:20.680 safe, then they're eventually going to either sunburn their brain or fall over a 458 00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:23.599 little bit because they're top heavy. No one likes the bodybuilder that's got very 459 00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:28.000 tiny little legs and a huge upper body. Amplat house that would be an 460 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.079 example. Yeah, I say, it's like putting a satellite dish on a 461 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:37.720 shack. So I really help people understand this. The prowess of your intuition 462 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:43.519 comes also with how much you feel comfortable with your sense of self. That's 463 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.319 what I think is interesting about the podcast that you do, and that's why 464 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:49.400 I reached out initially, is because I was really I really believe in what 465 00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.960 you're doing here. You know, I do what I do and there's other 466 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.160 people that help people in different way. Am I the best fit for every 467 00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:59.720 single person? No? But if you've tried other things and they haven't worked, 468 00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.920 and know you're empathic or intuitive, and you have boundary issues, or 469 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:06.680 you know that there's a family curse or you know, you know, if 470 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:10.199 you know certain aspects about what we've talked about, then go find someone that 471 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.599 can help you on that and believe in them so it works. Right, 472 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.880 don't find somebody that you believe in and then you can lean into it. 473 00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:22.679 Don't come at it begrudgingly and say, well this person better, you know, 474 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.280 pull my scabs off. Well I'm not there to pull off your scabs, 475 00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:31.880 right, He's not good visual Scott exactly. That's my point is that's 476 00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:37.440 that's not the job. But lean in, you know, find somebody who 477 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:44.440 thinks along either the same lines or you don't know what you're experiencing, and 478 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:46.159 then you want to believe that there's something else out there. And that's what's 479 00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:50.280 once again, why I think is so interesting about the guests that you have 480 00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.880 on your show, Well, that's so diverse. That's one thing that is 481 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.960 just fantastic about you and about most of our guests, so they'll say the 482 00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.199 same thing, Hey, I might not be your person, but there are 483 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.079 a bunch of other different modalities out there, and find the one that speaks 484 00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:04.440 to you. Whereas a person's like, only you got to come to me, 485 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:07.960 that's when you're like, hmm, that's all shady. Sure, Like 486 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:12.920 you had a guy on a WIB just recently who feels like entities and parasites, 487 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.960 energetic parasites. I cleared two or three of those a week with my 488 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:21.440 client. Yeah, I'm really curious to hear what he says about this interview 489 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.960 once we release it, because he's he's very vocal about people, so I'm 490 00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:28.800 really curious to you what he says. Yeah, I mean, entities happen, 491 00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:30.880 they attached to people, and a lot of times what I sense is 492 00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:37.000 it's not necessarily an entity. It's an old paradigm or an old mindset that 493 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.880 you had at five or seven or thirteen that created a thought pattern in your 494 00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.039 psyche or in your physical body, well not your physical body, but your 495 00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:50.360 energetic body, I should say. And if attaches to your energetic body, 496 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:54.039 it becomes parasitic, and so you sense it almost like an eel or an 497 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:59.320 entity or a large tadpole. And it doesn't have a full on brain, 498 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:04.480 but it has thought pattern in that it's there to fulfill a purpose. So 499 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.800 that purpose is no longer viable or you've grown out of it, then you 500 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:12.480 don't need or want that thing attached to your energy field. How can you 501 00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:16.079 tell the difference if it's an entity or if it's just a thought pattern. 502 00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:21.639 Yes, they have different vibrational patterns, they have a different density. When 503 00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.760 the person perceives them, they generally can tell also if they ask them there 504 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:30.199 how I have a series of questions I go through because when I work with 505 00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:32.199 that, I don't do it the client experience. Is it in their own 506 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:37.440 right? And the client speaks to the thought pattern or the entity itself. 507 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.760 And by doing a series of questions, by asking does it have a name? 508 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.440 Is the person responsible for asking it to be there? And a lot 509 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.199 of times yes, And I say what year did it happen? And it's, 510 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:51.159 oh, age five? What happened at age five? My parents got 511 00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.960 divorced, or I moved schools, or I moved to a different country. 512 00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.519 You know, these are all things that all after time, And I say, 513 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.800 what happened to the age of five, there's a maligning concept that you 514 00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:07.719 have in your psyche that's become parasitic. And then that's when they'll say, 515 00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.280 oh, something bad happened to me, or I had a car accident, 516 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.320 or as I said, my parents got divorced, or moving schools is a 517 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:19.559 big losing a friend, losing a pet sometimes for kids who don't understand it, 518 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:23.320 these can all kink the hose in that age group or at that time, 519 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:28.039 and I can, through my intuition, see where in your timeline these 520 00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:30.119 kings happen, and that's how we can flush out what it is. But 521 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:34.199 it's the client that's doing the work, not me, which is great. 522 00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:38.639 Right does someone have to believe that what you're doing is real or is it 523 00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.320 going to work no matter what it's I mean, yeah, better to lean 524 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.840 into it. Obviously, if I'm doing somatic works, that's less. I 525 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:52.039 use my intuition to dictate which somatic technique I'll use or which part of the 526 00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:57.440 body we work on. But generally those somatic techniques happen whether the person believes 527 00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.880 in intuition or not. So I'm able to sort of use my intuition on 528 00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:07.400 the non believers and get them into that healing space because of well, they 529 00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:12.000 realize that the part of the body I'm drawn to they also have a pain 530 00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.280 there, So something's happening there. If I'm drawn to a part of your 531 00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:19.599 body just as I was with you, will it's generally because you're experiencing some 532 00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:23.400 sort of maligned energy, whether that's pain and it's physical, or it's energetic 533 00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:29.920 and there's an energetic underlying quantum reason why it's koeg. So really, any 534 00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:37.039 type of malaise spiritually energetic inside your body, in your home, anything like 535 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.880 you sometimes you just feel kind of wonky or weird, that's probably a good 536 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.719 indication to reach out and say, Scott, something's going on. Can we 537 00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:46.960 figure this out? Yeah? Yeah? Or you know what do you where 538 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.559 do you see this coming in my body? Or why am I attached to 539 00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.639 this person? Or why can't I let go of this person? You know 540 00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:59.199 a lot of empaths. I work with a lot of narcissistic abuse people suffering 541 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:04.480 from that for me, their childhood or their parent or their siblings. That's 542 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.679 a lot of my work as well. But it's really neat to work with 543 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.559 somebody and tell them you've got intuition coming into your forehead and it's it's it's 544 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:14.920 offline. So let's like get a laser pointer and get it to hit that 545 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:20.719 pineal gland. And once people register that the incoming information into their their third 546 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.760 eye for example, is coming in askew, and we get them to align 547 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:28.320 it into their pineal gland, it's like, well, you know, it 548 00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:32.199 can look like the front of a of a Pink Floyd album, you know, 549 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:36.360 the prism coming in and the rainbow coming out. When people connect to 550 00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:39.599 it, then then healing can happen, and insights can be there, and 551 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:44.519 people's self esteem can start to bolster, because, as I said, that's 552 00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.400 where the healing energy is. If you believe in yourself, then your body 553 00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:51.519 is more likely to want to or be able to heal itself. Now, 554 00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:53.320 I know everybody's different, so I know your answer what yours is going to 555 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.719 be, but I've got to ask it. Sure, how typically, on 556 00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.000 average, how many sessions does it take to kind of clear the works, 557 00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:07.400 get rid of the ungum the works? Yeah? Well, as you said, 558 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.280 everyone is different. You know, some people I see weekly like they 559 00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:15.280 would see a therapist instead of a therapy session. And then some people say, 560 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:16.239 oh, I have a trauma in my past, or I have a 561 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:21.360 backache, I would like to try this quantum energy healing or this this energy 562 00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:25.880 healing is opposed to a more traditional or physical interaction intervention. Right. I 563 00:40:25.880 --> 00:40:30.119 don't physically have you press on your spine very often. But if there's energy 564 00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:36.159 in your spine that needs to be released and we release it, then the 565 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:39.719 pain doesn't come back. Right, So I'm not working on the medical side 566 00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:44.840 of it. I'm working on the energy underlying it. And if you unclog 567 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:49.159 that or let that flow, then what follows it, which is mass or 568 00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:57.039 matter, then has more potential of feeling or going back to its original programming, 569 00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:01.119 or would I call more optimal for the situation, Meaning, yes, 570 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:06.199 people have pains in their bodies that after working with me, those pains dissipate. 571 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.599 But I work on it from an energetic perspective, not from the pain 572 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:15.719 perspective itself. So piggybacking on that though, can do you help with physical 573 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.480 ailments like people who are maybe have cancer or something along those lines, or 574 00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:22.159 is that something you kind of try to stay away from. People come to 575 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:29.320 me for myriad reasons. Right, cancer is a misalignment of cells and so 576 00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:35.159 it's the energy of those cells got somehow degradated or deteriorated, and so their 577 00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:39.760 programming started producing it. Differently, if you go back to an original program, 578 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:43.760 and I'm not going to get specific to cancer, but if you go 579 00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:49.320 back to an original energetic program and you tell your body to reinstall that original 580 00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:52.239 program, then that maligning energy is less likely to be able to stay. 581 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.840 Does that make sense? It does. Yeah, So that can be anything. 582 00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:00.760 It doesn't have to be a physical ailment or a medical ailment. It 583 00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:02.440 can be an emotion, it can be a story or as I said, 584 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:06.480 a divorce in your past, things like that. But yes, a lot 585 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:08.559 of people come to me with physical ailments, and then we work on the 586 00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:15.280 energetic reasoning why the ailment arrived or is there, and if it has a 587 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:20.000 historic or a soul pattern, then we help resolve that soul pattern. Then 588 00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.039 down the line, their body regulates it itself the same way you go to 589 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:27.000 the doctor with a broken arm. They fix the bone, but the doctor 590 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.920 doesn't come back every day and rub salve on the bone, so it grows. 591 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.960 The body knows how to heal itself once the alignment is taking place. 592 00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.480 So I help people with the alignment and then the body heals itself, and 593 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.800 then I would imagine that you would be good for people that have is it 594 00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:44.440 OCD or the thing whether you're counting all the time or turning the doorknob fifty 595 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:50.320 times, that's a city. There's OCD, there's DD, which is people 596 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.639 that detach and go into different types of their psyches. It can work to 597 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:58.320 integrating d ID. There's a lot of things that it can work for. 598 00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:00.920 As I said, if it's a good fit, then it's a good fit 599 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:06.039 for the person. But the person generally needs to understand that there's an energetic 600 00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:13.559 underlying story happening, and if they perceive that story in reality not a wishful 601 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:15.960 thinking I wish this my body didn't hurt, or I wish my need didn't 602 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.519 hurt. Well, guess what it does hurt. So let's stop wishing and 603 00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:23.360 deal with the reason behind it or the reason underlying, right, because we 604 00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:27.079 all know that if you wish for something, the universe is going to make 605 00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:29.559 you keep wishing for it because that's what it thinks you. Yeah, it 606 00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:34.519 becomes all resolusive. That's a very very law of attraction state. So you 607 00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:37.360 don't wish it to be you accept it what it is, and accepting what 608 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.920 it is, then you can change it right right now. That's why my 609 00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:45.880 perception of patterns because I, once again I just read the energy of it. 610 00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:51.159 I read the energy pattern and I tell you where it's maligned or misaligned, 611 00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:57.440 and I have you use visualization and your imagination to experience it on your 612 00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:01.239 own for yourself, so the healing can be experienced by So how about kids? 613 00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:05.880 How does this work for kids? Have you ever done stuff on kids? 614 00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:08.039 I'm sure probably a little too young, it wouldn't be good for, 615 00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:13.440 but maybe someone who's no. Ten above. Sometimes parents ask me about their 616 00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:16.400 children, and I do work with the archetypal charts, which means we can 617 00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:20.960 have your archetypal chart read and then we work with the archetypes. And so 618 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.840 sometimes I work with parents and explain their children's archetypes back to them so their 619 00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:29.599 parents can understand them for who they are and give each other a break, 620 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:34.079 because a lot of times, if you're not an if you're perceiving your child 621 00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:37.000 through your own lens, you're not giving that child the ability to be themselves, 622 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:42.360 and that causes frustration on both sides. So a lot of times I'll 623 00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:47.119 work with parents on and explain their children back to them from an archetypal standpoint, 624 00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:51.320 meaning the chart, But a lot of times no, I'd like to 625 00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.960 work with people over eighteen their sense of self. I have worked with a 626 00:44:55.000 --> 00:45:00.519 couple of teenagers with their parents' permission, but it just doesn't I'd like to 627 00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:06.079 see the psyche a little more formed than that, And just because I just 628 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.239 think it's appropriate to work with adults. And I'm sure the more you know 629 00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:14.599 yourself, the easier it is for you to go in and help someone with 630 00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.039 that, where someone who is before you're eighteen, you're kind of heck, 631 00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:22.119 I'm much older than that. I'm not sure percent sure I know who I 632 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:24.639 am completely at so I can see someone that's young may have a tough time 633 00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:29.360 with this well, And there's there's different meal you's like six and seven. 634 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:34.000 We have a different perception of ourselves, Like we don't know we fit into 635 00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.079 an actual world until we're six or seven years old. With our age. 636 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:38.760 He used to be seven. Now with the younger kids it's more like six. 637 00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:43.559 And then there's another coming of age at twelve or thirteen, middle school 638 00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:45.639 puberty, things of that. How do I perceive and interact in the world, 639 00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.119 and then again at nineteen when we should look back and say, oh, 640 00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:52.840 all that garbage we went through and all the stuff we're holding on to 641 00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.400 us, let that go and become the adult you're supposed to be. No 642 00:45:55.440 --> 00:46:00.280 one stops and tells a nineteen year old how to write a chat, how 643 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.079 to do your taxes, and to let go of all the bullshit that brought 644 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:06.360 you to this point and become your own adult. And I wish we did 645 00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.159 out a class with that of nineteen year olds because a lot of us would 646 00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:13.039 have been better off. But yeah, oh absolutely, but I think that 647 00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.519 would be a fantastic service for the parents that have come. And because we 648 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:17.840 do we look at our kids and we just kind of see them as little 649 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.239 minimes and we expect them to think and feel and react and respond the way 650 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:23.760 we do. But to have someone like you come in and say, no, 651 00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:30.159 this is really what they're like. Boy, Right, if your daughter 652 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:35.400 has queen archetype and she wants to sit on her throne and have you know, 653 00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:39.079 experienced the queen experience, and you have servant archetype, you're not going 654 00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:45.079 to relate to her. But if you understand that you have servant archetype and 655 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:46.800 your daughter has queen archetype, then you're going to see it for what it 656 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:53.000 is and be more responsible to that situation and more aligned with the reason why 657 00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:58.039 they're acting that way or the reason why you're responding that way. And it 658 00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:01.119 can be so enlightening for people. It can be so uplifting to the parent 659 00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:07.599 to go, there's no fault here, they just are. When you can 660 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.960 say there's no fault and people just are, it takes a lot of the 661 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.719 anxiety out of situations and a lot of anxiety out of relationships. Sure, 662 00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.599 so how do you find I know we're running way out of time, but 663 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:22.159 how do you find It's a whole other conversation. How do you find someone's 664 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:27.519 archetype? It's a chart. It's similar to an astrological chart. It's we 665 00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:31.440 all have different archetypes that we are born with, and I think of them 666 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:37.320 as mandalas or stained glass windows. We each have our own mandala, We 667 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:38.559 we each have our own stained glass We know. It's just the colors are 668 00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:43.800 different and they're different placements. So if you shine a light through your soul, 669 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.239 it's going to project differently than the light of my soul because I have 670 00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:51.280 healer archetype and I have visionary archetype. These are the archetypes that help me 671 00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:55.480 do my job right. But there's other people who have pioneer, which means 672 00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:59.039 they're never gonna They're just going to keep working, They're just going to keep 673 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:02.880 going for it. The session, Yeah, now I'm dying to know. 674 00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:09.119 Yeah, there's a lot. We have the book with Scott. Yeah. 675 00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:15.519 Well, your podcast you mentioned a little bit earlier is the Intuitive Energy Podcast. 676 00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.360 I've listened to it and it's it's a really great resource to get even 677 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:22.880 deeper into some of these concepts we talked about today. We also are going 678 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:27.159 to put we'll put a direct link to your podcast on our show notes. 679 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.000 We'll also put your social media as your Instagram, your Facebook, that kind 680 00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:31.599 of stuff on our social media so people can reach out to you if they're 681 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:37.760 so inclined. And I'm telling you from from our personal perspective, both Karen 682 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.400 and myself, and this is coming from the skeptic. We both really feel 683 00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:45.159 like this Scott is the real deal. So absolutely, it would be super 684 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.960 interesting. It would love you invite you to reach out to Scott have a 685 00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.079 session or two can come back to us and let us know what you thought, 686 00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:58.000 because we want to be able to compare our experience with those of our 687 00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.519 audience. So great, Scott, I can't thank you enough for coming on 688 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:02.719 the show again. It's always a pleasure to have you. And maybe maybe 689 00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:07.320 session three will be out the final finished product. We always have so much 690 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.400 to talk about. Yeah, I'd love to Yeah, awesome, thanks for 691 00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.280 having me on. I really appreciate it. Now, thank you for coming, 692 00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:15.320 Thank you, and thank you for all of your help with all the 693 00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:19.599 healing and everything. Yeah, we will see you again soon. I promise 694 00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:22.519 you that very welcome. You're very welcome both of you, and a huge 695 00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:27.599 thank you to you. We know that there are tons of options out there, 696 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.880 and having you decide to come along on our journey of discovery with us 697 00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:35.280 is an absolute honor for us. We hope you've enjoyed this conversation as much 698 00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:37.119 as we have. If you did and you feel called to give back, 699 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:42.239 we invite you to visit our website at Skepticomanephysition dot com, where you can 700 00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:45.639 donate to the show or subscribe as a member through our buy me a Coffee 701 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:50.320 can me your support will go a long way towards allowing Karen and I to 702 00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:55.199 bring you these wonderful conversations and teachings in more and more robust ways. Well, 703 00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:59.039 that's all for now. We will see you on the next episode of 704 00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:07.159 The Skeptic a position. Until then, take care, m