1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,559 M hm. Well, it's my great pleasure to welcome to our podcast the 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,039 one and only former WBC Heavyweight Champions of the World, Deyonday Wilder and Deonday. 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,519 I know you've got a big fight. We're talking. You're in Saudi 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,280 Araby and Riad getting ready uh in the final prep for your June first fight 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:21,000 in Riad against Zilly Zang, the main event of the five on Fight the 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,679 Zone pay per view card. First of all, how was your trip to 7 00:00:23,879 --> 00:00:29,039 Saudi Araby? Back uh back back in action there once again? Yeah? 8 00:00:29,079 --> 00:00:32,920 Man, my my, my trip has been amazing. You know, from 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,320 from when I've around here and even to now, you know, the the 10 00:00:37,399 --> 00:00:43,880 treatment and the love and respect has been U been been amazing. You know. 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,320 I love I love being here. I love the atmosphere and most of 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,240 all, I love the people. That's that's that's that's here, that that 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:57,119 surround this this uh country, the ones that special, the ones that I 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,479 encountered with. So it's been great. I'm glad to hear that. Before 15 00:01:00,479 --> 00:01:03,760 we get into your fight, I just wanted to ask you because it's been 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,519 the talk of the boxing world pretty much since May eighteenth. That's when your 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,400 old rival Tyson Fury squared off with Alexander Usik. They were fighting for, 18 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:15,959 of course, the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world, and Alexander Usik, 19 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:19,879 who eked out to split decisions, scored a late knockdown that proved to be 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,359 the difference in his victory or a draw. And I wondered if you if 21 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,239 you watched that fight, and if so, what did you think seeing your 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,879 old rival and obviously the now undisputed champ due battle like they did. Yeah, 23 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,159 I didn't really get to see fool of it. I saw the ending 24 00:01:34,239 --> 00:01:40,079 of it. I saw when the us was coming on to him and the 25 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,560 referee stopped him from knocking him out, and you know, from that point 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,719 it was a point of good fighting too. Then a lot of people was 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,239 asking me who I thought were we, and you know, I was always 28 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:55,760 saying I was on the fence because you just never know being a peaceable was 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,560 thinking Tyson because of the hide and wait, he liked to lend on people 30 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:04,159 and stuff like that. But you know I didn't let that. I didn't 31 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:08,039 let that be the decision in my factor, because it's all about what dollars 32 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:13,479 you bring to that fight. Everybody have the days. Everybody have bad days, 33 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:16,840 and congratulations to to use it, you know. In the victory, 34 00:02:17,479 --> 00:02:21,879 Yeah, a terrific fight. Uh. And now now looking at your situation 35 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,360 here, so in December in Saudi Arabia, you know you took a loss 36 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,439 in a decision to Joseph Parker. I think, uh, if if anybody 37 00:02:30,479 --> 00:02:34,800 watches that back and as honest they see a Deontay Wilder that just didn't throw 38 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,800 a lot of punches, certainly could not land your money punch was obviously your 39 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:40,120 phenomenal right hand. Uh. And so when you look back at that fight, 40 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:44,199 Deontay, what in your mind do you feel like went wrong? And 41 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,159 uh, what adjustments maybe have you made, either physically or mentally as you 42 00:02:47,199 --> 00:02:52,319 prepare for the fight with jan Yeah, a lot of we made a lot 43 00:02:52,319 --> 00:02:57,879 of mistakes in the in the final quarters of camp and stuff like you know, 44 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,439 different different things like that, you know, and certain judgments and stuff. 45 00:03:04,039 --> 00:03:07,080 But the main, the main factor I feel was the inactivity. I 46 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,759 didn't realize that I was out of the ring almost two years myself. You 47 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:19,199 know, I've been so busy doing other things in the different countries and stuff. 48 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:23,759 I didn't you know, the years when you get busy years, like 49 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,319 I didn't even realize that, but that was one of the main big factors 50 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,400 that inactivity, right, I mean, you had had you had had the 51 00:03:30,439 --> 00:03:34,400 one fight, but it only you know, since the Third Fury fight. 52 00:03:34,439 --> 00:03:38,719 You're right, you've been off over two years other than yeah, the Hellnius 53 00:03:38,759 --> 00:03:40,360 fight, but it only lasted less than three minutes. You're saying that was 54 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,439 a fact that, Yeah, I think because when I'm in a ring, 55 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:47,039 you know, I felt good. I was in shape, as you can 56 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,360 see. I went twelve rounds. I mean, if it was a reversal 57 00:03:51,479 --> 00:03:53,919 of if it was a reversal that Joseph Barker was me and I was him, 58 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:58,439 I would have knocked him out, you know, inactivity. I went 59 00:03:58,479 --> 00:04:01,159 twelve rounds with him, and only fact it was that you know that, 60 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:05,000 you know, he ended up getting a couple of punches on me, and 61 00:04:05,039 --> 00:04:08,759 that became the fact that of the fight because it was a boy. But 62 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,319 until that point you said, yeah, you said there were some things in 63 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,160 the last part of your camp that you you, I don't know, miscalculator 64 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,879 didn't do correctly. Can you detail any of those things, I mean, 65 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,480 is it irrelevant? Okay, well that is it relevant at the point of 66 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,439 time, and I don't want people to say or make an excuse and stuff. 67 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,000 You know, even when you even when you stay to the truth of 68 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,199 the fact, you know, people will always hell excuse you know, so 69 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:39,000 I'd rather not say. You know, if anything I learned from I learned 70 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:44,480 from my mistakes and they craved me better. But I can say I can't 71 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,279 say that, uh that I appreciate. For one, I can pull the 72 00:04:47,319 --> 00:04:51,680 trigger at all. And many times I've seen openings and shots. I could 73 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,519 have threw my right hand and and certain things, certain things that that I 74 00:04:56,639 --> 00:04:59,639 boughted his punches. I could have came that and did, but my body 75 00:05:00,199 --> 00:05:02,680 would and just wouldn't do it. And I'm thinking, and I'm like, 76 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:08,360 what the fuck? I felt good training, I felt good, woman up, 77 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:11,800 but when it was time to fight, I couldn't point a trigger and 78 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,879 that I just couldn't do it. My body wouldn't do it, and I 79 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,120 was maybe it was something inactivity and other things. But at the end of 80 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:23,000 the day, I always say, a lesson is a blessing and from that 81 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,000 and from that fight, I became even better. So I always tell people 82 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,560 I'm back, and from that point I've been going to un stop, you 83 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,959 know. So I needed that because if I didn't take if I didn't take 84 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,639 that law, I would have still been the same, meaning I wouldn't I 85 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:41,360 would have said, well, you know, nothing needs to be changed. 86 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,800 I can still go on when I thought I gotta figure it out. But 87 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,639 you know, being in that fight and let me know that not, you 88 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:48,879 still got a lot of my work to do. You ain't done it now. 89 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,439 I'm not saying this. I'm not saying this is the case, but 90 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:58,680 in my experience of a long time of covering boxing, when you hear fighters 91 00:05:58,759 --> 00:06:03,279 or trainers for or promoters managers talk about the definition of a shot fighter, 92 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,720 and I'm not saying Deontay Wilder is a shot fighter, but the thing that 93 00:06:06,759 --> 00:06:11,839 they say is the fighter sees the opening and you use the exact phrase, 94 00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:15,480 can't pull the trigger. Do you feel like you're getting to that stage of 95 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:20,319 your career or you feel like the Parker fight was an anomaly. I'm far 96 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,399 from a shot fighter, you know. I started lad in this business. 97 00:06:24,439 --> 00:06:27,680 I haven't tookn a lot of damage and I'm still good, you know. 98 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Uh, And you know, my team we gathered up and and we we 99 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:38,360 talked about that that's that that that that uh, that exact thing where we're 100 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:44,360 talking about being side or being you know it's too old or everything fading away. 101 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,839 And you know everyone agrees, you know, and I have hundred people 102 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,319 on my team. I don't have no business. You know I have especially 103 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,959 at this point in time in my life now, you know, because we 104 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,439 were trying to get back to the top. And the only way you can 105 00:06:57,439 --> 00:07:00,839 get back to it we have honesty and working hall. And you know many 106 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:05,079 of my all my guys, like especially Jay, you know that's that's my 107 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,720 right hand man. Sure, you know he was and you know I came 108 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:12,240 in a game with him. I'm still with himself. Well, a lot 109 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,519 of people know you're you're talking about JD's there's been there from day one exactly. 110 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:23,319 So I I I take in and I take in his opinion very well, 111 00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:27,759 you know, very well more than anybody because the relationship that we have 112 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:30,199 and I've been in there, I know when he say he loves me and 113 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,439 care about me, I know that man does. And we had that discussion. 114 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,759 You're like, look see if you was if you was a shot fighter, 115 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,040 or if you was losing anything or you would, I would take I 116 00:07:42,079 --> 00:07:45,480 would be the first to tell you, so that's not the case when you 117 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,519 took UH ahead, And I don't feel that's the case either. And I 118 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:56,319 mentioned myself from this camp into a lot of other camps, and I'm far, 119 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,879 I'm far of being a shot fighter. So when you had to fight 120 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:05,360 UH with Joseph Parker back in December, and I know in the aftermath, 121 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:07,519 you know, you do the interview in the ring and stuff, there seemed 122 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:11,639 to be a little bit of maybe I'll consider walking away. Obviously you've had 123 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,519 a lot of success, You've made a tremendous amount of money, UH that 124 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,160 maybe it would be the end. But obviously you've decided to return. I 125 00:08:16,199 --> 00:08:22,199 wonder after that, in those days and weeks were you thinking about retirement and 126 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,639 when you decided not to, how anxious were you to get back in the 127 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,199 ring, because you know, for you, this is a pretty quick turnaround 128 00:08:26,199 --> 00:08:28,600 relative to the way it's been over the last few years of your career. 129 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:35,519 Yeah, when when when When When you have situations and uh actions happen like 130 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,159 that, when you can't pull the triller stuff like that, you want one 131 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,720 wonders what it is you know, I didn't you know after after a fight, 132 00:08:43,519 --> 00:08:46,360 so many different things go to a fight ahead. Yeah, of course 133 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:50,440 at that point in time, because there's a lot of adrenaline, rust going, 134 00:08:50,799 --> 00:08:52,960 there's a lot of you know, confusion, there's a lot of adults 135 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:58,399 going in your head. So of course, you know, being knowing that 136 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,840 I was out a long time, coming in like that, You know that 137 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,679 we're the wonder of when you're breaking, is it time? And you start 138 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:09,159 thinking about the success and the things that you got going outside of boxing, 139 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:13,440 Do you really want to still do it because you don't really need it no 140 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,679 more? And you know, a lot of things that are going through my 141 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,159 head, you know, I think emotionally I was speaking, you know, 142 00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:24,919 but once I physically started getting back into training, and then I put my 143 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,360 emotions to my side and I was like, let me see if I give 144 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:31,080 it one hundred and ten percent like I used to, if I become a 145 00:09:31,159 --> 00:09:33,000 gym racked again like I used to. That got me to the point, 146 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,440 let me see what the results is. Do I still feel the same way 147 00:09:39,159 --> 00:09:45,639 that I did back then? And I can say today that I don't feel 148 00:09:45,639 --> 00:09:48,159 the same way. I'm not the same fighter, you know, and my 149 00:09:48,279 --> 00:09:52,879 hunger. My hunger has came back. I wasn't hungry in that fight. 150 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:56,000 I wasn't hungry, you know, from a lot of period. I wasn't 151 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,799 even hungry in the Miladi Alita's fight. About that, though, you say 152 00:10:00,799 --> 00:10:03,879 you weren't hungry, And I wonder you had in the fight with Parker, 153 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,600 the sign contract for the fight that everybody wanted to see. I think that 154 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,399 you've wanted for many years, that Anthony Joshua wanted for many years. You're 155 00:10:13,399 --> 00:10:16,480 able to finally make the deal. And so, I mean, I'm not 156 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,360 trying to be disrespectful at all, but I'm wondering, in your mind, 157 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:22,960 how is it that you could be, you know, not say motivated, 158 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,840 when you've got that gigantic fight that everybody the world has wanted to see forever, 159 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,200 uh right there in the palm of your hand, and uh, you 160 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,600 know, and you let it slip away to that, you know, in 161 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:37,679 that sense, right right right? Well definitely, And yeah, and I 162 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:43,120 can understand how want to see it that way, But when you've been through 163 00:10:43,159 --> 00:10:48,000 so much, especially dealing with them, you you your mind, like you 164 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,600 know, all those themes have been signed. You know, you got to 165 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,080 understand people don't know behind closed doors with that. It took him up every 166 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,960 long time to sign that contract. That wasn't just immediate signing whatever. Believe 167 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:03,799 that was a hard, hard deal to get all squared away. Believe me, 168 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,200 I'm aware of that. Yep, yep. And and we had a 169 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,000 lot of history with them saying one thing but doing another. So to be 170 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:18,679 honest, I was not one hundred percent convinced that he was still fighting even 171 00:11:18,799 --> 00:11:22,720 the sign contracted, even with the sign country that. I was not convinced 172 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,600 that he was gonna fight you because of his actions, because of the things 173 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:28,080 that I was hearing from. You know, we had a lot of a 174 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,919 lot of people around, a lot of resources, A lot of things goes 175 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,879 on in boxing that you know, people people, people talk people, even 176 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:41,519 especially when you think you've got people with honesty, honest around you, and 177 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:45,000 you know people you know in boxing talk, they're gonna talk. And a 178 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,240 lot of things was coming back to us as well, and stuff like that, 179 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,320 So I wasn't I wasn't. Look, the man didn't take fifty million 180 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,840 dollars and there was gonna be lesser than that. So if you didn't take 181 00:11:56,879 --> 00:12:01,759 fifty why would he you know, take this or whatever. And I just 182 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:07,759 wasn't convinced. And that's why my hunger didn't you know, my hunger didn't 183 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:11,679 go go up. You know, it just stayed the same, you know, 184 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:16,840 because I wasn't convinced that he would still fight even after so but at 185 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,759 the end of the day, I'm not you know, at the end of 186 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:22,320 the day, this is a brighter, a new day for me. My 187 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:28,080 hunger is back, and my hunger is back because of the meeting is that 188 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,360 I've had with His excellency in and his staff and people, and you know, 189 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:37,039 many time being in America, they criticized me, they crucified me, 190 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:43,200 they drove my name in the dirty when I only was myself to express myself 191 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,559 because I always say I risked my life for others entertainment. So I feel 192 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,000 as if I'm risking my life because boxing, you know, you don't know 193 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:54,200 what's gonna happen when you when you get in that ring, you don't know 194 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,639 you're gonna get to be the same way to come out. We've seen that 195 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,639 over thirteen five diars a year inbody, but that's never talked about. The 196 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,440 nethers of boxing's never talked about. And I feel that if I'm going to 197 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,000 risk my life, then I'm gonna speak it the way I want to speak. 198 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,360 If I say I'm gonna kill a man or whatever, I'm gonna speak 199 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:16,039 how I want to speak. Because the reality then when we set up in 200 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,919 rows, that's what we're doing. But it's all dressed up. It's dressed 201 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,879 up. That seemed like there's a competition. Yes, it's a competition, 202 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,440 but it's a gladiator competition. We don't know what's gonna happen at the end 203 00:13:28,519 --> 00:13:31,519 of it. So with that being said, that unknown allows me to speak 204 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:37,960 my peace, to be open hearted, whole, whole hearted, open and 205 00:13:37,159 --> 00:13:43,360 honest about how I feel about U, be the usual how I'm feeling at 206 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:48,799 the moment in time as a warrior. I'm worried, part yeah, to 207 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:52,399 be a be to be with this foll even and to tell them they say 208 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,279 they don't want the nice guy. We don't want that. They told me, 209 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:58,679 we don't want mister nine guy, no more. We don't we want 210 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,120 that to kill him. We want okay, they wow, man, they 211 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:07,679 said, we want crazy wild. And when they told me that, when 212 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,919 they told me that, my heart lifted back up, my fire, my 213 00:14:11,039 --> 00:14:18,159 plane and my heart it relieved the different with this business, you know, 214 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:22,279 it was just it was just different. That That's one of the things that 215 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,279 made covering your career a lot of fun because not only were you scoring big 216 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,879 knockouts and making excitement in the fights, but you were a guy that has 217 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,039 still has a big personality outside that makes it. You know, you got 218 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:39,159 the action inside the ring with the punching power, and you got the personality 219 00:14:39,159 --> 00:14:41,159 outside ring. That's what's made it. That's what helped you become a star 220 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:46,679 that you became. So no one's knocking that there, uh, exactly. 221 00:14:46,759 --> 00:14:50,519 So. So when when you get so many people, you know in America, 222 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:52,000 when you feel like they're supposed to be with you, you know, 223 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:54,919 whether they want to hang on, whether they you know, they want to 224 00:14:56,279 --> 00:14:58,360 just throwing most of the governments into you know, you like, like, 225 00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:03,080 what the fuck let me because we're not we're not we're not greening piece. 226 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,879 It's like, y'all don't want to meet Wilder, but you don't want the 227 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,120 peace for Wilder. What do you want? It's like, damn if you 228 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:15,279 do it, damn if you don't. And it's like a confusing thing. 229 00:15:15,799 --> 00:15:18,240 You know, when you try to please Peoven. That's one of the things 230 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,039 that that that that that I went wrong trying to please others. Well, 231 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:28,559 let's let's talk about the fight itself that you got coming up. Uh in 232 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:33,360 March, your opponent, Jilly Jang also lost the decision to Joseph Parker. 233 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,360 Now granted his was closer than yours. It was a majority decision, and 234 00:15:35,399 --> 00:15:39,480 even though he lost, he actually scored two knockdowns against Joseph Parker. So 235 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,399 what did you make out of that performance and what sorts of things do you 236 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,600 see from Jang that you feel like you can exploit. I look at I 237 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,759 see Deontay Wilder. Uh. You know, you both have great punching power. 238 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,440 You probably faster than he is. I just wonder when you assess his 239 00:15:54,519 --> 00:16:00,200 performance with Parker what you see in Jang Jula, y'all. I actually like 240 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,480 Zay, you know. I like Big Banks. I like the name and 241 00:16:02,519 --> 00:16:06,720 everything Big Bank Day. I like that, you know, And he's a 242 00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:08,480 he's a he's a good fighter as well, you know, as a south 243 00:16:08,559 --> 00:16:11,799 Fall. And but to think about it, I love south Falls, you 244 00:16:11,799 --> 00:16:15,360 know, I do very well with South Falls, and I like that we 245 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,200 lined each other up for that big bang for that big right hand, and 246 00:16:19,639 --> 00:16:23,200 he did. He did well. Uh with Parker and stuff. I think 247 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,399 he would have executed even more if it didn't run out of gas and stuff. 248 00:16:26,799 --> 00:16:30,159 You know, with him, it's like with him, as the work, 249 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,840 as the rounds goes on, he declined. And I don't know is 250 00:16:34,879 --> 00:16:40,039 that dealing with his conditioning or is that dealing with that that that that leg, 251 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,440 that bad leg that he got, or the motivation that he has. 252 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:48,360 I don't know, But I'm looking to explore that because for me, I 253 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,879 started slow, but I started incline as as things goes on, especially when 254 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,320 I'm on im, and then everything's going that what happens to me, And 255 00:16:56,559 --> 00:17:00,600 I think that's gonna be a main fact for me. But also, like 256 00:17:00,639 --> 00:17:03,279 I said, the hog in the fire as the relieved. But I tell 257 00:17:03,319 --> 00:17:07,079 people all the time, I can I can sit here and say so many 258 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,359 great things that I'm gonna do this. I can't wait to do that whatever. 259 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,519 But Jon JUNI person's gonna reveal everything, and everyone's watching, it's gonna 260 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:18,079 be a witness to it. Yeah, I think there's an easy way to 261 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,000 look at this fight. You tell me if you agree with this, I 262 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,920 look at Deontay Wilder with you know, in my twenty five years of covering 263 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,400 boxing, the best right hand I've ever seen. I look at Jilly Zang, 264 00:17:27,519 --> 00:17:30,559 I see an absolutely bomb of a left hand because he's a south pod 265 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:36,359 tremendous straight left hand, both with one punch power, but specifically with that 266 00:17:36,519 --> 00:17:38,039 hand that you're so expert in both of you. So I look at it 267 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,960 this fight, it's Deontay Wilder his right hand against Jilly Jang's left hand, 268 00:17:44,039 --> 00:17:48,200 and basically, whoever can land the biggest bomb before the other guy has the 269 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:49,680 better chance to win the fight. Am I crazy? Or do you think 270 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,559 that that's the way the way you look at it, Oh, you're right 271 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,720 on. I feel it. I feel the same way you know, and 272 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,799 I think a lot of other people would agree with that as well. And 273 00:18:00,039 --> 00:18:04,160 this is what makes it a starting to fight, because of the power, 274 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,359 because of the heavy weights us not why they want to see a twelve round, 275 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,279 but they want to see somebody get knocked out with it. I would 276 00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:17,240 say one thing about you, watching you for your entire career, is that 277 00:18:18,079 --> 00:18:21,640 for a long time, when you were scoring so many that those huge knockouts 278 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,039 with your right hand, you did a really good job by using your jab 279 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,920 and setting it up to like leave, you know, make sure that you 280 00:18:29,039 --> 00:18:32,039 set up the right hand as opposed to just looking for the one shot. 281 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,720 My humble opinion is over the recent fights there's been a not as much of 282 00:18:37,759 --> 00:18:40,519 a commitment to trying to set it up and just going out there and looking 283 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:44,200 for the watch. I think specifically for example of the rematch against King Kong 284 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,400 Ortiz, can you get back to using your job to set up one of 285 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,559 the greatest punches in boxing history of that? But I can and I will. 286 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,400 You know, this is something that I've committed myself to. This is 287 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,680 something that I I test myself in this this training camp. I know I'm 288 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,920 back because of this. This capter, this previous chapter I had has been 289 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,799 one of the best camp that I had in a long time. And a 290 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:11,640 lot of the things that I used to do and start doing the here and 291 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,880 start going back to it, the jabs and stuff like that. When I 292 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,119 get back to the top and he and I get those titles backs, one 293 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:26,359 man for sure that I'm gonna gonna acknowledge and appreciate his uh is Blackymir Clisco. 294 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:33,000 Uh I talked to him after the Department fund. You had a Yeah, 295 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,880 we had a conversation and he was telling me, he said, man, 296 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,839 you have a beautiful jab. He said, I don't know why in 297 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:44,240 the hell you don't use it. He's a good man to listen to about 298 00:19:44,279 --> 00:19:47,680 that, because he had a great job. Yeah, yes he did right 299 00:19:47,759 --> 00:19:49,880 here and and and he told me, I don't know why the hell you 300 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,319 don't use it. And it really just made me think real hard, even 301 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,960 after we sell a lot of many other things. And but that really resonated 302 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,880 with me, you know, to you know, because he really was faring 303 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:07,000 with me and stuff like that, and and just seeing upon you know, 304 00:20:07,319 --> 00:20:10,880 just just you know, watching bikes and watching my fights. And I said, 305 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,720 you know what, I gotta go back to. I gotta I gotta 306 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:17,720 start doing more jazzs and around. I gotta start setting it up like I 307 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:21,079 do. So what we've been doing in this camp, we've been counting the 308 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,839 jabs and stuff. How did how did that conversation come about? Did you 309 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,680 just pick up the phone and call you after watching the fight? Yes, 310 00:20:29,839 --> 00:20:33,720 what the call came about? I actually called him, you know, you 311 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:37,079 know with Shelley and Shelley, you know, they still talk and stuff like 312 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,519 that. And I actually called him because I was reflecting on my career, 313 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,640 like I said, you know, it was just discussed after the fight. 314 00:20:44,759 --> 00:20:47,720 I was considering about, you know, maybe we should retire and stuff, 315 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,440 and I thought, and he came to my head, like all the fighters 316 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:55,119 I could have called, all the guys I could have you know, talked 317 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,000 to about you know, being a mentor for me, he pumped up in 318 00:20:59,079 --> 00:21:02,200 my head, you know. And you know, I'm always I'm I'm an 319 00:21:02,319 --> 00:21:04,119 energy type of person. I go with what I feel, my intuition. 320 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,240 And when I saw him pop in my head like I got a call, 321 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:12,799 it was a sign for me. And I called them, and we had 322 00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:17,319 a beautiful conversation, you know, and he was telling me. He was 323 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:22,640 telling me how everybody, everybody, uh went against him. Everybody told him 324 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,880 to stop, to quit, He said, do it. He didn't believe 325 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,400 in him, even his own brother. He said, one thing I wanted 326 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,680 to do is prove everybody wrong and also proved myself wrong, because he said 327 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,559 he beat it himself up as well, but we always are the biggest critic. 328 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:41,319 And he said he beating himself up so bad that you know, he 329 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,200 just really wanted to prove everybody himself wrong. And you know, like I 330 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,000 said, we had a beautiful conversation. He gave me a lot of inlight 331 00:21:48,519 --> 00:21:52,559 on a lot of things in boxing and and and it's gonna be It's gonna 332 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:59,079 be great for me. So I'm looking forward to to to discipline what I 333 00:21:59,279 --> 00:22:06,119 have. Went back and re and reesthetic, re rearranged myself. You know, 334 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:11,640 Dan, I started to modify my skills and the things I was doing. 335 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:18,400 I'm not a I'm not a boxer. I'm a stone cold, fucking 336 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,759 firete killer. And that's it. You know. I never claimed to be 337 00:22:22,839 --> 00:22:26,039 a boxer and none of that because God did make me like that. If 338 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:30,559 God may be a boxer, then I'm just I'm just like any other boxer 339 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,119 boxing box But He made me different and that's what makes people unique, the 340 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:37,640 different in them that draws the attention. And I was like, why am 341 00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:42,200 I trying to modify my skill of what God blessed me with to try to 342 00:22:42,279 --> 00:22:45,160 prease others? And that's what I did. I fell away from that. 343 00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:51,279 But now at this point in time, I'm selfish. I've been selfless for 344 00:22:51,319 --> 00:22:53,359 a long time, but now I'm selfish. Well, I'm not surprised that 345 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,440 Vladimir was very good to you, as you say on that call, because 346 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,680 I don't even know if you know this, but when Anthony Joshua took his 347 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,599 loss first time against Andy ruiz Uh, he had a long conversation and was 348 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,519 like a mentor and and you know, talk to him and helped, you 349 00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:14,480 know, get him focused back to what he wanted to do in boxing. 350 00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:18,039 Because Ladimir in his day took a couple of rough losses also and knew what 351 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,039 it was like to take that and and kind of be left for dead by 352 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:23,880 a lot of people. So I'm not surprised that that Vladimir did that for 353 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:27,759 you and for Anthony Joshua. I got to ask you about this because this 354 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,599 is the one thing about this fight that kind of kind of still kind of 355 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:36,559 blows my mind. Deontay Wilder is now part of Eddie Hearn's team on the 356 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,319 five on five. You're now with Matchroom at least for this one fight. 357 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:41,559 Yeah, how weird is that? You know what I mean? How weird 358 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,079 is that it is? It is? It is very weird. But when 359 00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:48,960 you understand business, you know, business is business, and we know to 360 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,599 you know, be in business, you know, bringing certain people together. 361 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,559 But at the end of the day, I have to get all the credit 362 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:03,039 to his clussy, you know. And I think, you know, it's 363 00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:07,480 just like Queensberry and and Naturroom working together. They're they're they're the enemies, 364 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,599 you know what I'm saying. They don't like each other. But but the 365 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:15,880 Saudis have brought everyone to Yeah, you understand me. And it's been a 366 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,160 beautiful thing just being in there having meetings with everybody, just going there and 367 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,440 like, gods, what the hell are y'all doing? Y'all? These are 368 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:30,240 boxing, you know, y'all y'all allowing the best whites of our lives and 369 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:34,079 in the faces watching lives just just fade away. Like why are y'all not 370 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,000 working with each other? He asked me, why why are you only fighting 371 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:41,720 once a year? And all you shaid me fighting more and more more and 372 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,160 something you know, everybody have dread, you know, and it's and I'm 373 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,559 so happy that they came part. Always tell uh A Turkey that I appreciate 374 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,240 him for coming into boxing, not because of just the promotion and what we're 375 00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:57,960 doing, but just to bringing people together, you know, people that just 376 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,279 working together. The to never ever worked with each other in the lifetime if 377 00:25:03,319 --> 00:25:06,920 they didn't come in. So it's a lot of things that's going on that 378 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,160 I'm not gonna say. But one thing I can't say is I give out 379 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,640 a credit to those guys. They're the one made all this possible. After 380 00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:18,920 this, after this, who knows what happens, you know what I mean, 381 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,279 you know, it just goes. But at this moment in time, 382 00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:25,839 I'm gonna enjoy it. I'm gonna soak it all up. I'm the uh, 383 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,440 you know, the captain of the team. Not only I'm a part 384 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,200 of it, but it may be captain. They got their team. I 385 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,440 was just gonna say that. That's crazy to me. Uh, you know, 386 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,759 it's it's a beautiful it's a beautiful a beautiful time in boxing, you 387 00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:45,519 know. Right now. I hope it continues to stay alive for the future 388 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,640 of things, and we're going to see how these things plays out. But 389 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:53,119 I'm very excited to be a part of the the five on the five and 390 00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:57,680 you know, and to be working with different, different guys in the business. 391 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,599 That's why I kept my open as a free agent, because I've always 392 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,519 wanted to work with you know, different people, you know, and in 393 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,000 boxing, we just have too many, too many people that their whole grudge 394 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,799 is it and don't like each other. And so if I don't like you, 395 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,960 I'm not gonna work with you. But that shouldn't be part of the 396 00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:21,039 fighter's fault. You know. The fighters just want to fight because we want 397 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:25,920 to make money and we want to see who's the best. And so you 398 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,039 know, the relationship that other promoters have with other promoters and so on and 399 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,759 so on, that has nothing to do with us. So, you know, 400 00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:37,559 I make the stand because no everyone knows how I feel about Eddie and 401 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,559 stuff like that. When I took the stadium, I mean, you know, 402 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,680 and I mean, let's try this out. Let's see how these goals. 403 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,559 And here we are now. So I'm excited, you know, you 404 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,640 know, overall I'm excited and and I can't I can't wait for the junior 405 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,079 person. Well, thank you very much for your time. I certainly wish 406 00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:56,920 you nothing but the best of luck. June. First, I think it's 407 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,960 gonna be a very interesting fight. Uh, Like you said, the Bronze 408 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:03,880 Bomber against the Big Bang. I guess we're gonna see a knockout. I 409 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,599 would think before we wrap up, you think we're gonna see a knockout in 410 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,960 this fight either way? Oh man, Oh that's for sure. I don't 411 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,920 see it no other way. You know, you got the bronze bamba with 412 00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:19,680 the biggest and in the mild pinion, A lot of opinions the best right 413 00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:23,319 here in big boxing history against big bangs, ain't. I mean it's a 414 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:30,640 big bangs again. I love that, love that. And you got too 415 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,119 heavy, too heavy punches in there. I don't. I don't see how 416 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,640 this fight is gonna go to ave round without someone getting knocked out. So 417 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,160 you know, I love being in these fights. You know. I love 418 00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:45,599 being in the fights where somebody gonna get knocked out, you know. And 419 00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:48,680 because I understand we're in the heavy division, that's what people want to see, 420 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:52,920 entertainment, excitement at the big knockout, so you know, but you 421 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,119 know, I'm coming to do all the knockout that's for sure. And and 422 00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:03,039 and and the advance my career and to becoming uh getting those types of things. 423 00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:07,000 That's my main mission right now. And I'm looking forward to it. 424 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,640 Like I said, you know, and all the man's watching it's important, 425 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:17,559 that's for sure, this time around. Deontay Wilder's bad and I'm gonna improve 426 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,400 that. I'm not just saying it. I'm done impletely. I think we 427 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,279 can leave it there, Dante uh Well said, I thank you for your 428 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,519 time once again, and I wish you nothing but the best in the fight. 429 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:29,559 Yes, sir, I appreciate today and I hope you up the beauty 430 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:30,400 for the rest of the day. You bet, Thank you, Dada, 431 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:32,920 Hey care than bigging bes.