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Coming up this week on the Marcast. Well, here we are post XFL

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twenty twenty three season. The XFL
just held its rookie draft. They're signing

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undrafted free agents in the offseason,
trying to scoop up all of the unsigned

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talent they can before the USFL completes
in season. In the words of a

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semi famous punk band from these Chicago
suburbs, this and the scene, it's

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a arms race. Exciting show this
week, your friend and mine, Rick

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Sarah Tella coming back on the program. Big news from Rick in his own

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football career here. But also we
are grading and analyzing the XFL team picks

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here in the off season. Rick
has grades for all of the team's rookie

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drafts as well as the undrafted free
agent safe signs, and we are spotlighting

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players you should keep an eye out
for heading into XFL next year. Well,

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I think it's an arms race right
whose pockets are deep enough to laught

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for the long haul? And as
much as I want to through both leagues

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be sustainable and survive, I don't
know if that's going to be the case

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read and hopefully it's not the case, but I think that the XFL is

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really not paying attention to what the
USFL is going to do. They're gonna

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go about their business, and I
do believe XFL has secured the greater level

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of talent, and so therefore I
believe that the demand or the desire for

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the street free agent, at least
their preference, is going to remain the

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XFL at least that's my understanding from
the community and individuals I've spoken to.

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And then don't change the dial.
You are here on the correct YouTube channel

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here the email somewhat known as the
USFL Hating Podcast. We are back Pat

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Raffino off of our Monday and Tuesday
USFL recaps here on the main show.

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This week we are doing our official
the Mark cast all USFL twenty twenty three

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team awards, handing them out.
Pat has done a ton of homework you

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don't want to miss. At that
point, I feel like it's more of

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a fan bias than an actual like
analytical perspective of like, oh, you

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know, Boogie didn't make it or
this guy did make it, and it's

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like, I mean, they all
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and at some point the line of
demarcation gets like I put boogie as my

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defensive tackle. And then we are
barreling through the CFL season. Already on

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the week three, the BC Lions
will have hopefully America's team here hopefully have

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beaten the Winnipeg Blue Bombers here at
Thursday night before you're listening to this,

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but the big slate of games this
weekend, we're bringing back Derek Taylor,

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the voice of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. You talk to everything CFL Week three.

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How bad are the Elks? I
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Really bad? Apart from the Gino
Lewis one hundred two yard reception in week

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one, what do they have?
Two hundred yards passing at fifty percent rates?

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And the run game, which I
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going to be really good because Kevin
Brown looks like he can really hammer dudes

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and run that ball. Hasn't you
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be. I want to help you
enjoy. Hey, guys, welcome to

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the marcass read here recording things a
little out of order this week. Busy

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work week for me, so hopefully
this all comes out correctly. Here busy

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week here, We've had the undrafted
signings here with the XFL posting all that

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coming off through rookie draft last week. I know, John Bogel, Evan

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Wilsmore, coach, Craik Sports,
we all kind of did the live breaking

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analysis of all of the bad as
the draft picks came down last Friday.

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If you miss that, that was
a good time. Were about an hour

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or so kind of knee jerk reaction
on that. But I was talking with

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Rick Sartella. He said, I
want to come back. I want to

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do a full breakdown. I got
grades and everything for all the teams,

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how the DPPs and everyone, the
coaches, what Rick thought of all that,

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and also just really cool like kind
of backstory tidbits on a lot of

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the players Rick has been acking here, so something it's not like the sexiest

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thing in the world here with the
you know these players and do we know

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them? Does the casual viewer all
that? I think Rick does a good

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job kind of fleshing that out,
but kind of the you know, the

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conundrum right now is XFL signing all
of this talent you know USFL and they

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did there was it the college draft
and all that. How is that all

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going to pan out in the arms
Race for the talent. I hope that

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was a good reference this week.
The Fallow Up Boys song came out in

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oh seven, if you want to
feel old about that here in the year

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twenties twenty three, but it was
going back and forth with smog from the

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desolation of what the Hobbit movies whatever, hoarding the treasure and decided to go

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with the arms race all the Fallow
Up Boy So I hope you enjoy that.

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Rick also has some news to break
today, some announcements from Rick Saratella

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here coming up in his role with
the i FA the International Football Lines.

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Really excited and honored that Rick would
take the time and feel the desire to

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come on our show to share some
of that, hoping that we can be

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helpful to them and everything in their
endeavor is coming down in the future.

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So really appreciate Rick taking the time
to come on to share that news.

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Like I said, did Pat Rofino
coming back? Pat and I do our

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weekly live recaps following the USFL games
over the weekend. But Patti is back,

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He said, I wanted to do
a you know, I have Pat

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write articles for the website throughout the
year, and Pat said I want to

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do an All USFL Team Awards,
So we did that. Pat came on

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really exciting. Like I said,
I talked with Pat every week, but

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like getting him on the main episode, so I hope you enjoy. And

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then, like I said, Derek
Taylor, a voice of the Winnipeg Blue

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Bombers, who is either going to
be happier or sad today with the BC

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Lions hopefully having beaten them at home. That's that's quite the conundrum. They're

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BC traveling to Winnipeg to do that, but hopefully they win that. Lots

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of CFL stuff to talk about.
I love catching up with Derek. We've

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had him on the last two CFL
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That's gonna do it for me.
Today. We will be doing our

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USFL you know recap show on Tuesday. I believe next week Jason Hussey will

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be joining me as well for our
Monday recaps. I hope you guys are

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enjoying those. For the CFL,
I think we're gonna do probably a live

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kick you know, kick off to
the championship game here with the USFL.

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If that's the words I'm looking for
next week for Friday, so look for

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information from now. I'll reach out
to everyone kind of now figure out if

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we want to do something prerecorded their
live, but keep a lookout on the

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twitters and Facebook's. I'll keep you
guys updated for that. But should have

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a live show next week at getting
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which happens to fall on my birthday, so kind for the USFL to do

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that. Also, Canada today a
day so infamous in Canada, the Mark

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cast birthday that Canada decided to make
that a national holiday. So I hope

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you guys enjoyed the episode. We'll
see at the end. Take care well.

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We tried to get this gentleman on
for the rookie drive busy guy here,

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but I said this is almost better
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jerk reaction stuff and I do like
a little bit more Ricks prepared here.

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We have grades and a little bit
more formal on this. So we're talking

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all the XFL, the hoarding talent
here, all the XFL offseason and signing

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and stuff. How are you doing, Rick, I'm doing great, Red

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happy to be here and excited for
all the new players getting an opportunity in

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the XFL. Great opportunity for these
young men on the outside. Maybe not

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in a training camp or futures contract. Hey, there's plenty of opportunities in

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the XFL, and I'm pumped up
to shed some insight. Yeah. So

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you know when the USFL did their
college draft, it was in February.

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It was kind of pre the NFL. Do you like the timing of how

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the XFL here where it's okay,
it's kind of mid June. We're given

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players a sense of direction here.
Do you like kind of how they're looking

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at you? Is it better or
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do like that the season ended and
there's something to talk about right now.

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I do wonder like, hey,
a player gets his rights taken by the

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XFL, Well, there's gonna be
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we report the training camp. So
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leagues or they get signed and picked
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sick nificant strategy involved because you're trying
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be available to you nine months down
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talent, but you might not want
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because chances are he might get picked
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to see the individual team approaches in
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players, and we can dive into
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go here. I've got both tabs
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Ricky drafts kind of since that was
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thoughts on all of that as we
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got here, I do want to
just start with Arley. Intend to go,

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Dad, You said you've identified some
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want to tackle this? Yeah,
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I don't really think that players should
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what round they were taking. I
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to have an opportunity to compete.
And if you were drafted as opposed to

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being an undrafted free agent, well
chances are the team probably likes you a

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little bit more than some of the
those other guys. But I think what's

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great about the XFL they they don't
care where you come from, FBS,

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FCS, they don't care about the
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camp, anybody has a shot.
And Si Barnett at a Davenport man.

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I wrote about this young man leading
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the team in receiving, he led
the team in punting. Oh, by

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the way, he's the field goal
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what can't Si Davenport of Barnett do
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bring a lot of excitement to the
XFL, almost like a jackknife. And

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I know special teams has been talked
about a lot in the alternate football universe,

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But how exciting is it a guy
who could come in make a sixty

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yard touchdown, catch, stay in
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kick, the kick the kickoff.
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punt too. So I like that. Connor Degenhardt, aut of New Haven,

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I really liked this young kid.
I thought he was one of the

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top twenty or twenty five quarterback prospects
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Now read there's a there's a big
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because there's this big group think box, and because Connor Degenhart who actually led

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the FCS. I think in passing
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But then I kept asking all my
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you see the new Haven kid?
What do you think of that new Haven

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kid? Hey? That new Haven
kid's a player. But because he wasn't

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on the Blessed Though or the national
teams didn't go in, they didn't give

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him a look. They didn't take
him seriously. This kid has a dual

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threat six foot six, two hundred
and thirty five pound cannon arm quarterback,

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four year starter conn and Degenhart,
remember that name. I think he could

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be a star in the XFL.
And then Merlin Robertson out of Arizona State,

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one of these super seniors who at
one point was being talked about as

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a potential next level prospect, didn't
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Had success early on and in Sundevil's
career, but then kind of plateau.

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So now he's gonna have an opportunity
to show off some of that past

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rushing prowess for the Arlington Rene gates
in terms of Arlington, and I think

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in the in the off whatever Wednesday
claimed yesterday, I think there's another quarterback

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here, but with the rending Gates
taking Connor taking the quarterback, and obviously

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you know we did Louise and kind
of all that stuff. Does that tell

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you anything about how they're looking,
they're approaching that they're kind of just stockpiling

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right now as they can. Well, I think, you know, the

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quarterback position, and I don't care
what league you are, you can never

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have enough of them. Look at
the Memphis show Boats for example, you

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know, so to me, and
look at the NFL. You know,

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you're only one snap away from your
backup quarterback. And look at the situation

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that Arlington ran into last year at
the quarterback position. And then you see

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the success that Louis Perez has enjoyed. Well, if I'm an NFL team,

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I would love to have him as
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roster camp invite. And then again, you know, you come in and

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you're a thrower, You start in
pressing and say, hey, maybe we

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should sign this guy to the practice
squad. So I think Arlington kind of

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saw the writing on the wall.
Hey we might lose Louis Perez. This

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is a good looking player, let's
draft him. And you know, I

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can dive into the free agents,
or we can keep that separate however you

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want to work it. Yeah,
why don't we do that? We can

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do We can do the Arlington free
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So Noah Henderson out of ECU again
a multiple year starter offensive lineman. I

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kind of projected him as a guard
at the NFL level. He might get

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a chance to stick at tackle for
the XFL, So I think he's gonna

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come in compete for a starting job. Noah Tailor out of North Carolina,

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linebacker, started off at Virginia.
Very good physical specimen, probably a strong

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side linebacker, can get after the
quarterback, set the edge against the run,

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and even drops back and pass coverage
for a big man a little bit.

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So Noah Henderson out of ECU.
Noah Tailor out of North Carolina.

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Bob Stoops tapping into his college resources
there. Yeah that's interesting. Yeah,

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he's probably got you know, some
of these guys, but Bob and his

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staff movie a leg up on that. Just in terms of relationships and things.

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I don't know you have that makes
any difference at all or not?

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Yeah, anything anything else from the
running gads. Yeah, so you have

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Connor Blumrick as well, quartering back
out of Virginia Tech. So yeah,

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definitely kind of picking up as many
as they can right now, kind of

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wanting to figure out what they're going
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Initial reaction. I gave the Arlington
running gades an A minus. I

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actually thought they had the second best
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it's interesting too because and we were
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the draft show we did last week. You have some of these teams,

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Okay, we've had issues anyway we
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know, we need to work on
a defense or whatever. But then some

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of these teams, you know,
like the defenders, we have a bunch

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of these guys signed at the NFL. Then you just got to make up

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for the holes that you have.
So you're kind of getting the holes in

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two different directions here, whether it's
hey, we were so good, now

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we have players that are getting taken
or we really need to shore up whatever

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issue of our team. Yeah.
I think also the common denominator amongst all

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the teams is offensive linemen, right, whether they drafted him or signed.

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Every team is looking to add depth
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a half ago now talking about that
that he said, you know, come,

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come with all these leagues competing quarterbacks
and O line And he said,

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back with XL twenty twenty, they
had a list of you know, unsigned

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offensive linemen that they could bring in
if there was injuries. And he said

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when when COVID shut that league down, he said, there were very few

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names on that list, so that
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for Arlington here. I guess we'll
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on the rookie draft. Yeah.
DC Defenders, Now, I remember when

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we recap their initial draft before the
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they're gonna run and gun and look
to run some spread formations. Look at

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all the wide receivers, and again
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I think bond's kind of doubled
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Tye Scott at a Missouri State again
an FCS under the radar prospect who you

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know, quite frankly had some concerns
amongst the scouting community in terms of whether

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he could separate. Okay, coming
from that small school competition caliber of talent.

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Well, guess what. Now he'll
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he can be a big time playmaker
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J. Johnson again ECU very productive, can make a lot of plays over

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the middle, can play outside inside. I think I think Vaughan saw an

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opportunity that hey, we might lose
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double down. And then again Jack
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lineman. The Hawkeyes do one thing. They take two and three star recruits,

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they coach him up, and by
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fundamental baseline that can really as a
low baseline. Right, So the ceiling

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might not be as high for a
Jack Plumber, but you know what you're

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getting very fundamentally sound, a polished
player. And then Alex Jensen out of

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South Dakota, a multiple years starter. And those two guys again, whether

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they come in and compete for a
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it's going to serve them well.
I gave the DC defenders a B and

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I did have Josh Falo at a
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undrafted free agent signings. He caught
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He was a bona fide test catching
target and he did run into some

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injury struggles there throughout his collegiate career. So if Josh Falo can kind of

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get back on track healthwise, I
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DC Defenders quarterbacks in the passing attack. Yeah, be curious to see where

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they go and then they We're still
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somewhere. He kind of bounced around
last year, so it'll be curious kind

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of if they really need to reevaluate
kind of what their core identity is or

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if they can run it back.
You know they bring you know, Derrick

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King, right, this kind of
the primary guy who're moving forward? Absolutely

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correct, So moving so beat moving
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coming up, the Houston Roughnecks.
Yes, And I will say that Bob

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Morris was locked in all week at
the NFLPA Collegiate Ball He was he was

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there for the duration, and he
was looking for talent, and he took

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a number of our guys from the
NFLPA Collegiate Bowl, some of them that

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I was shocked, quite frankly that
they're still available. Let's start off with

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Lindsay Scott out of Incarnet Ward,
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and I'll tell you what, five
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frame read, he's very similar to
a Kyler Murray. The arm strength is

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not much less than a Kyler Murray. The scrambling ability is arguably just as

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good. And if you remember Charlie
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probably about thirty years too early for
the NFL. But Lindsay Scott, to

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me, is the reincarnation of Charlie
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with Connor Degenhart, who we talked
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is a guy who could take the
league by storm. I really do another

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dual threat seven year, seventh year
senior read he's got a lot. I

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think he accounted for seventy touchdowns passing
and rushing this past season. And then

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Michael Ayers out of Ashland. I
am stunned that they were able to acquire

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this young man. He is an
NFL talent. He came out of high

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school unranked defensive back, one hundred
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bunked up forty fifty pounds during his
time in college, became a linebacker,

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very good coverage skills, flies to
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true athlete, this, Michael Man. This is what the xf BEL is

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all about. Developmental prospects, and
Michael Layers is a great one, as

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is Jason Adamola at a Notre Dame
tweener right, lacks the arm length,

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lacks the prototypical height, but man, he started several years there for the

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fighting irish showed glimpses. I think
he can be productive in spurts. I'm

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curious to see how they're going to
use them on the inside outside. Is

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he a kind of versatile defensive lineman
that they move up and down the line.

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I think he's going to make an
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that's why I gave them an A. I thought Bob Morris had the best

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draft, and I like Braydon Johnson, the undrafted free agent out of Oklahoma

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state whether he plays wide receiver or
tight end. I think that'll be a

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nice pest catching target for their offense. The interesting thing too about Lindsey Scott

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is he was obviously a couple of
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and the XFL, so they'll be
curious kind of. You know, we've

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talked a lot about how these drafts
are kind of like the Canadian neglist,

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where you know if you come in
that you know you might never set foot

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in their life, be curious to
see you know, you do the XFL,

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and then if you get cothered it
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the USFL is going to say no
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you do you find it interesting that
both these leagues are kind of taking competing

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idea of philosophies here in terms of
kind of getting these rights taken up for

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teams. Well, I think it's
an arms race, right whose pockets are

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deep enough to last for the long
haul. And as much as I want

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to see both leagues be sustainable and
survive, I don't know if that's going

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to be the case read and hopefully
it's not the case, but I think

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that the XFL is really not paying
attention to what the USFL is going to

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do. They're going to go about
their business, and I do believe XFL

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has secured the greater level of talent
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or the desire for the street free
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going to remain the XFU at least
that's my understanding from the community and individuals

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I've spoken to. Interesting is that
do you attribute that to better scouting,

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better you know, directors, the
player personnel kind of doing there. I

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mean, what do you attribute that
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three landscape, read the industry that
we're in, the players that were targeting,

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a lot of it is about the
pizzaz the rock brings sex appeal.

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They just have a more significant presence. And when you look on the TV

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channel there's more than a hundred people
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Post COVID shots fired here. No, I'm not, I'm not.

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I'm not. I'm not saying I'm
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I'm just being honest that when I
turn on the TV and there's eighty

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seven people in the stands. I
say that that's an issue. That's all

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I mean. I think it's valid. Anything else from Roughnecks you said you

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gave that, would you say great? Did we get a great for the

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well? Hey, the Roughnecks I
gave an Ay, Bob Marris, hats

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off to you. All Right,
let's go here back. We got Ricky

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drafts here, we're flying through.
This is good Orlando Orlando Guardians. Okay,

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So Rock Martin out of Oklahoma State, he's another guy, highly productive

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inside outside. What I like about
brock Martin reed is he can bring pass

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rush from the interior. That's a
rare skill set. A lot of times

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you get opportunities at the NFL level
when you can do that. But I

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think Brock Martin again, he's got
those alligator arms. He's gonna scare off

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NFL decision makers, and so he'll
get an opportunity to come in and make

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his presence known. Darius Joiner out
of Duke another P five pedigree, can

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play safety, can play corner.
We'll see, you know, kind of

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weird. He settles in on the
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I thought Jared Horst from Michigan State, you know, the Spartans are

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another program. They have a long
history of putting drafted free agent offensive linemen

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in the league, and that's again
because of their ability to cross train players

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and then teach them the fundamental So
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guy that caught my attention on the
offensive side. They also signed a fighting

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Irish bow Bauer, the linebacker,
an undrafted free agent. Orlando to me,

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I felt like had one of the
more disappointing rookie drafts just in terms

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of impact. I think Rock Martin
will make an impact, but I guess,

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you know, from the skill positions. I felt like Orlando needed to

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build on the skill positions. I
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I gave them a C plus.
It's interesting too. Yeah, we've had

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on Buckley kind of postseason and then
he was on our pregame show for the

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championship game. You know itself.
Admittedly, they did not do a great

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job team building last year. I
think he would have him first and foremost,

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like you know, he had never
done this and trying to bring in

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Larry Lee and kind of figure all
this kind of stuff out. Interesting the

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day you feel like they haven't taken
that next step here, even kind of

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with a year and knowing like,
okay, these are the things we need

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to kind of focus on. It's
hard, you know, when you've never

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done it before. There is an
adjustment period and I think you know,

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you see some of the titles some
of these Bob Marris worked in the NFL.

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Right, Von Hutchins, I always
go back to, has been scouting

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these guys for the last several years. When you're not living that life and

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then you come in and try to
play catch up. You're competing against others

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who have three, four, five, ten year head start. It's not

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that it's you know, it's easy
for us to sit here in our chairs

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and say, oh that was great, man. They blew that opportunity.

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Listen, there's more than just talent, right. It's about scheme, it's

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about fit, it's about DNA right, It's about a person's attitude. Right.

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Because again, you know we see
this with the CFL. The biggest

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lesson to be learned a guy like
Brock Martin. I never met him personally.

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I'm just gonna use them as an
example. Oklahoma State, big time

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player, All Conference, someone like
that. They might have an ego,

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right, they go up to the
CFL, they get their ass kicked right

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because they think, ah, I
got it like that. But that's not

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the case. There's a high level
of talent in the CFL the XFL,

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especially with the starting teams. Okay, where where you see the bigger separation

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of quality is the depth, right, the twos and the threes. But

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in terms of the starters the XFL
the CFL, I think they're both very

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formidable. And that's why you've got
to kind of meet these men. You've

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got to sit down, you got
to talk with them. You gotta understand

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where their head is at. You
want to pick their brain and know like

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what is your why why are you
here and why do you want to participate

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in this league? Because there are
a lot of players read who feel like

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are too good. And then there
are a lot of players and I'm not

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knocking this either it's NFL or nothing, and they have a clear vision and

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I respect that. Okay, everybody
is a case by case basis the hardest

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thing to measure heart and head.
I say it all the time, and

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that's why there's a need for scouts. That's why there's a need for general

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managers and that's why you know you
you bat three hundred, you're doing great

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well. And like you said,
there needs to be you know, even

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if you're only buying into the XFL
for that one season or you know,

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USFL, to get to that,
there has to be a level of buying

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and kind of like why are you
here and what's your why and whether you

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know whether you're going to be here
for you know, three or four years,

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you're going to be here for a
year, like you at least got

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to be committed while you're here and
kind of go for it absolutely. So

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at see for them. I love
Trull Buckleys. I wish if they performed

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on the field like they do,
therefore they go. I love them coming

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out of Syracuse too. I remember
he was a good player coming up here

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in San Antonio. Bramas, hines
Worth and company. Yeah, the Brama's.

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So I'll start off. Jalil Billingsley
out of Texas, Okay, came

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over from Alabama, lost the starting
job to Lato, followed Sarkasian over to

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Texas. Left the program just this
past season. Okay, So there was

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a lot of questions about his commitment
to the game. Of what we just

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talked about this right, the love
for the game, the passion for the

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game. And so he was another
player we had at the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl.

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At one point, Jalil Billingsy was
thought to be a top one hundred

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overall NFL prospect. So here he
is now, very athletic, very limber.

407
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:47.279
Okay, And now I heard he
did very well in his team interviews

408
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:51.960
at the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl. Apparently
not well enough because here he is now

409
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.480
he's gonna have to go prove himself. And again, teams want to see

410
00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:59.400
that level of commitment. Does he
come in, does he work his ass

411
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:02.759
off, does hear the starting job? Does he dominate the level of competition.

412
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.039
If Jalaile Billingsley checks off over those
boxes, he'll be playing in the

413
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National Football League in two years.
Right, that's the journey. Okay.

414
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.720
I love the pick. By the
way, Chris Smith at a Louisiana Lafayette.

415
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:19.720
You know, he was probably the
best looking running back down at the

416
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:25.039
Tropical Ball this past season, and
the Tropical Ball pulled some good players.

417
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:29.920
Chris Smith very good between the tackles, runner, capable hands out of the

418
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:36.559
backfield, I I like his ability
to fit into the kind of rotation and

419
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:41.720
add a little bit of variety to
that San Antonio backfield. On the defensive

420
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.240
side, Lorenzo McCaskill, the linebacker, was the guy who stood out to

421
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.480
me who I think could come in
and make some noise. And then you've

422
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:56.000
got the undrafted free agents. Luke
Ford out of Illinois. I saw them

423
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.640
list him as a wide receiver.
I believe he was a tight end for

424
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.720
the line I so I don't know
if that was a typo or they want

425
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.519
to try him at wide receiver.
I would imagine his natural fit though,

426
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.559
is at tight end. And then
Nazier Right, I gotta give a shout

427
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:15.119
out to my guy out of William
Patterson. And that's the things that get

428
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:21.839
me excited is that whereas the NFL, you do have teams, scouts,

429
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.319
decision makers, who's gonna stand on
the table for a guy from William Patterson.

430
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.680
Not too many individuals. And that's
what I love to see. Guys

431
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:36.960
like Nasier right get a bona fide, legitimate opportunity. And so I gave

432
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:41.839
the Brahmas a solid beat. I
appreciate this. The insights here and the

433
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.400
stories I think, and this is
why you're a good person for this kind

434
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.880
of fit to come in, because
it's really hard to sell this as exciting,

435
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:52.519
right, A lot of this kind
of we're talking here offseas whoever.

436
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.240
But I think for you know,
casual fans or people like me, I

437
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:57.960
don't know any of these players,
and so getting the insights from you,

438
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:02.799
I think it's incredibly help and kind
of rounding out people's thoughts about this.

439
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:04.559
So I really appreciate that. I
think it's very helpful. That's why I

440
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:08.799
enjoy being here. Read so rams
okay saying anything else on them, We'll

441
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:14.119
move here. What do we got? C dragons here? Mueller and company?

442
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:15.839
And this is obviously a team close
near and dear to my heart.

443
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.519
So how do we do well?
You'd be happy to know I gave them

444
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:23.240
a B plus? All right,
So they had the third best draft in

445
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:29.759
my book, and that's because tightest
Swin from Wyoming, whoa buckle up.

446
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:36.519
This young man made a very strong
case to be the NFL PA Bowl MVP.

447
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:41.000
If you go back and watch this
year's edition, he toted the rock

448
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.920
I think close to twenty times,
and he really broke a lot of tackles,

449
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:51.759
busted off big runs. You talk
about yards after contact, you better

450
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:56.400
wrap up Tightest Swin out of Wyoming
I thought, I thought he made a

451
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.680
strong case for MVP of that game. Kolbe Reader out of Iowa State.

452
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:06.799
This is an instant impact guy for
the Cyclones. You might remember his brother,

453
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:11.480
Troy Reader. They played together at
Delaware. Kolbe Reader now is twenty

454
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.759
seven years old, another one of
these seventh year seniors. Had a lot

455
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:21.160
of injuries along the way. But
when you talk about forty one inch vert

456
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:27.880
four to five forty prototypical modern day
linebacker, size does an excellent job setting

457
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:33.519
the edge against the run. Now, I think he's the prototypical weekside linebacker.

458
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.799
Now will Kobe Reader want to participate
at twenty seven years old? Is

459
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:42.279
he about that journey trying to get
to the NFL because he will have to

460
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.759
play another season and then he'll be
a twenty eight or twenty nine year old

461
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:49.960
trying to break into the NFL.
That's the fascinating backstories, right, Everybody

462
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:55.240
loves the story of an underdog.
I'll tell you what Kobe Reader's story is

463
00:31:55.279 --> 00:32:00.359
fascinating. And then how about Sam
Burt and Malcolm Lee and that Kansas Hawk

464
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:04.799
program to turnaround that they enjoyed,
and that's because of these two young men

465
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:08.880
on the defensive side, and so
they tapped into some of that Jayhawk's success.

466
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:14.720
Hopefully that breeds off on the rest
of the team. And then in

467
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:20.039
terms of the free agent that is
going to be intriguing. How about the

468
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:23.480
Nicosy Perry at a Florida Atlantic.
He's just a big body quarterback, can

469
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:31.160
sling it around very consistent. But
there was enough flashes there right that shows

470
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:37.799
the tantalizing upside. And so I
don't think Nicosy Perry is a guy that's

471
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:43.359
going to come in and replace Ben
Denucci. But I do think he's a

472
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.759
guy that you want to have around
because the right coach might say, hey,

473
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:51.160
I can work with that. Give
me a year to just groom him,

474
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:54.839
teach him the verbiage of the offense, tweak some of those mechanics,

475
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:59.599
get the upper body and sync with
the lower body, and then suddenly you

476
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:05.279
might have a player here. And
that's that's where the quarterbacks liking Nakocy Perry,

477
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.400
who have enjoyed success at the collegiate
level, they need those reps.

478
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:14.400
I say, it all the time. Nothing replaces in game bullets. You

479
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:19.400
cannot teach experience, and so yeah, I thought there was a great balance

480
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:24.359
by the way on both stacking the
offense and defensive side of the ball for

481
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:29.640
the Seattle Sea Dragons. Well,
the other thing you said was bringing in

482
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.160
this Nikosi Perry. You know,
I don't know how long Ben d Nucci's

483
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:36.119
leashes here with the Broncos, right, and if that is going to pan

484
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.200
out for everything he wants, I
don't. I don't know if Danici is

485
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:42.240
about that life of coming back and
doing the XFL again. I think this

486
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:44.759
is like, you know, I
mean, we kind of we did this

487
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.839
and it was fun, and now
I don't I don't see him making a

488
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:51.599
second return here, So I don't
know if Montes is the answer. I

489
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:52.839
think they had Harrison Frost as well, so you know, no one else

490
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.039
really saw. I think Montez got
one snap or something in the game.

491
00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:59.960
So you know, we certainly need
to figure out something there with Seattle without

492
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:05.240
a d go in here. Whether
we got St. Louis next, Yeah,

493
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:10.280
the BattleHawks. So we got a
couple of guys here that stuck out

494
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:15.519
to me. You know, I
am fascinated that this Nico Bolden at a

495
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.840
Kent State did not get picked up
by the NFL. Now, he was

496
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.119
dealing with the hand injury. We
had him out at the NFL PA Collegiate

497
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:30.920
Bowl as well. But talking to
Nico, looking up at this man six

498
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:37.159
foot four right, two hundred and
twenty pounds, kind of that Cam Chancelloresque

499
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.880
type of safety. Okay, go
look at the production through the roof,

500
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.760
dangerous with the ball in his hands. Now, I do think the medical

501
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:51.000
did not check out well, which
is why he was still available. But

502
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:55.119
man, this might arguably be the
best player chosen in the draft overall.

503
00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:02.119
Nico Bolden at a Kent State Matthew
Jester, I gotta show love you guys,

504
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.719
may or may not know on based
here in New Jersey, but again

505
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:13.119
out of Princeton, right, something
tells me read that maybe that Princeton degree

506
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:16.519
could be put to better use and
earned more money than in the XFL.

507
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.800
But again, where's his head at? Does he just love the game so

508
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.519
much that he wants to play,
So that'll be a storyline that we pay

509
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:28.760
attention to. And then they drafted
a tight end. They signed a tight

510
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:31.880
end, and I like both of
them for their on field talents. At

511
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:37.920
least Kamore Gamble out of UCF kind
of had a streak career and then he

512
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:44.719
was drafted. Kamari Averitt was signed, and I think this was probably the

513
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:51.320
most controversial signing or selection because if
you don't know the story of Kamari Averitt

514
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:58.039
out of Bethune Cookman, former P
five pedigree off the field incident has been

515
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:02.000
well documented. I'm not going to
discuss it here. It can very easily

516
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:07.599
be found. I'm gonna stick to
his on field talent. Maurice Jones Drew

517
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.199
told me that he might be the
best player in attendance at the NFL PA

518
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.360
Bowl. Maurice Jones Drew loved this
man. We sat back watched to make

519
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:21.239
plays all week long. Big time
pass catcher, six five, two hundred

520
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:24.320
and forty pounds, runs like a
deer. The man obviously has some talent.

521
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:31.039
Anthony Becked took a chance. Anthony
Becked rolled the dice and so I

522
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:35.599
am going to be fascinated to see
what comes of it. And then Don

523
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:39.400
Peterson at a Nevada another free agent
signing. I want to mention lacks the

524
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:45.159
true size maybe to play in the
NFL, six foot three hundred pounder maybe

525
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:49.159
doesn't check off the boxes from a
measurable standpoint, but again got after the

526
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:53.039
quarterback there, made a bunch of
plays. And that is somebody where,

527
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:58.239
you know, if he wants to
have a professional football career in an ultimate

528
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.760
league. Don Peterson, you know, that's the kind of guy that maybe

529
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:07.280
it hangs around for a couple of
seasons. Unlike abandoned the Nucci who you

530
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:10.159
mentioned, But overall I liked what
Um Saint Louis did. I gave the

531
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:15.199
Battle Hawks again a solid beat.
Oh it's good, like you said,

532
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.239
with some of these, you know, Camari, it's you knowest league of

533
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:20.920
opportunities here if they want to do
that. And we've seen other players,

534
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.039
you know, Kavanti Chirpin and people
get you know, kind of work through

535
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:25.840
and get their way in. And
John Oakman was another good example in the

536
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:31.280
CFL. Uh So Cema the last
one here go back to the draft.

537
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:37.159
We got the Vipers here obviously with
um, you know Woodson being gone,

538
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.400
I think Joey kind of did a
lot of the you know whatever for them

539
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:42.559
right now kind of in the interim. So what did you make because they're

540
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.639
a little bit of a different situation
here without the head coach. Yeah,

541
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:52.199
Joey Clint Kal's I respect greatly.
Again, this is just one man's opinion.

542
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:55.360
I gave them a D as a
dog, I gave them the worst

543
00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.119
grade. It's okay, beauty's in
the eye of the beholder. I just

544
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.760
didn't see a lot of players that
stood out to me personally right. And

545
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.559
it doesn't mean that they didn't draft
quality caliber players. It means that we

546
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:14.400
talked about this in the beginning of
the segment. Every organization has different strategies,

547
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.920
and maybe they tried to find guys
that said, hey, I don't

548
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.559
think they're going to be in the
NFL, but they fit in our system

549
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:22.519
pretty well, and I think that's
kind of the approach they took. Now,

550
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:29.119
Robert Mitchell at an NC Central's a
good looking offensive lineman from the HBCU

551
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:31.000
ranks, and I like that pick. I think he's a guy that's going

552
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:35.199
to come in and compete for a
starting job. A lot of the other

553
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.639
players they chose, I had to
go back and do some research on them,

554
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:40.480
and I'm still learning and finding out
about them. So either they did

555
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:45.360
a tremendous job or a very poor
job, and that's to be determined.

556
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.519
You know. On the undrafted free
agent side, the BYU defensive lineman Lorenzo

557
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:53.519
Faut too. He comes from a
football family, so again, guys that

558
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:59.320
love the game, Guys that came
up with that football pedigree. And so

559
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.000
those were like two guys that really
stood out for me on the biggest Vipers

560
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:07.400
in terms of impact. I don't
see it, but I hope I'm wrong.

561
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:12.599
And so they graded out with the
worst draft, but hey, everybody

562
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.239
has an opinion and we know what
we make of those read Well, that's

563
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.639
good. I appreciate that. You
know, they Vegas has a lot of

564
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:22.280
heavy lifting, both on the field
and off the field. They're coming into

565
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.360
the season, so you would certainly
like to see them not handicapped it too

566
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:28.519
much. That was good. D
any other thoughts on this? And I

567
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:30.679
know we have some other rick news
here we're going to talk about, But

568
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.800
you have anything else from the draft
or the assignings? No, you know,

569
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.840
I just wish that there was more. I do believe that there is

570
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:45.480
a thirst for live coverage. I
give much props to you and the Mark

571
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:52.519
cast for hosting a live show or
as close to live coverage that you guys

572
00:39:52.519 --> 00:40:02.039
could possibly provide. But I just
have taking my industry related hat off right,

573
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:06.159
and just from a fan of the
league, because I am. I'm

574
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:13.000
a big fan of the league.
I expect and want more. That's me

575
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:16.760
speaking as a fan. Like there's
a draft, sign me up, I

576
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:21.039
want I want to know about it. I want to know what's going down.

577
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:25.199
I want to hear about these players. I think that your statement of

578
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:30.760
saying, man, I love the
backstories, like that's how you create a

579
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:36.719
following, that's how you relate the
fans to the players. And I think

580
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.880
that the fact that we didn't have
the backstories, or we didn't have the

581
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:45.880
reaction from the coaches, or we
didn't have live player interviews talking about how

582
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:51.400
they felt about the whole experience.
I go back to the wood analogy that

583
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.280
the tree really fall because nobody was
there to see it, and so to

584
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:59.239
me, I just I want to
see more. I get it. It's

585
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:04.920
not something that set up four but
a phone call to the kid over here,

586
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.840
we could have made it happen.
Come on, buckle up. But

587
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:13.320
overall, listen, I like what
the XFL is doing, and I just

588
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:17.000
hope that they are able to sustain. We saw them burned through five hundred

589
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:22.440
million in a matter of months.
The fact that they only lost sixty million,

590
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.679
I thought was a job well done. Call me crazy, but I

591
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.079
did not expect them to make money
this year. No, I mean,

592
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.159
well, that whole story has just
been frustrating, you know, with all

593
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:37.719
that coming out. But now I
know it's I think that it just there's

594
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.159
an expectation when you call it a
draft, that there's something that's going to

595
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:44.079
be done. We're like I said, if they were just going to drop

596
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:45.159
the names like they did with this, I wouldn't call it, you know,

597
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.360
I wouldn't call it that, or
I wouldn't promote, you know,

598
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:51.920
because they're promoting it. Hey,
we're signing all these players today and all

599
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.440
the teams are tweeting out this all
last week. Why would it just done

600
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:58.239
what you did this week and just
drop the list and go here we got

601
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:00.159
these guys. You're not going to
make a deal about it, you know

602
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.199
when I talk with the league and
it just said like we know we need

603
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.199
like we know, like we're next
time, next time, and you know

604
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:08.559
it's a next time until there's not
a next time. And if you don't

605
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.440
have enough interest in a lot of
this stuff. That's kind of my thing

606
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.800
is at some point I want,
you know, USFL, if you could

607
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.000
combine both of them, not merging, but just the philosophies of things.

608
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.679
Where the USFL made a really big
deal of their college draft and I don't

609
00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:25.840
think it really was a big deal, but they live tweeting and they had

610
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.280
all this kind of stuff and if
you, yeah, if you could marry

611
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:34.360
that with the XFL, and I, yeah, I have issues with that,

612
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:38.280
but that's for another day. So
you have other exciting stuff for whether

613
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:40.880
we have going on. I saw
it when I was trying to find you

614
00:42:42.159 --> 00:42:45.320
to talk about the draft. I
said, what the heck is ricks twitter

615
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:46.760
handle? What do we have going
on? We're changing things around here,

616
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:52.079
so what's going on? Yeah,
so you know read, Uh, it's

617
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:58.159
an exciting time for me personally coming
on board. Um, gonna make this

618
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:00.159
announcement here. I haven't stayed in
anything publicly, but you know, I

619
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:06.760
appreciate the platform. I do believe
the Mark Cast is really the authoritative voice

620
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:10.199
for alternate football. So I appreciate
the fandom and the following, and we're

621
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.760
gonna make a little bit of news
here and just get it out there that

622
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:22.039
I am joining the International Football Alliance
as their executive vice president and director of

623
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:27.280
International Relations. What the heck does
that mean? Rick? Let me explain

624
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:32.639
before I do. I want to
be clear because I know a lot of

625
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:38.039
well respected individuals in the football community
and industry that I've already told me that

626
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:43.480
I'm crazy. I hear you,
I understand, and I get it.

627
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:49.280
So with that being said, I
want the listening audience at home to understand

628
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.840
that this is not just the launch
of a new football league. It is

629
00:43:52.880 --> 00:44:02.000
the growth of American pro football internationally
around the globe. And the league mission

630
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:10.400
and my personal mission is going to
be to grow professional American football around the

631
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:16.760
world. And we are based in
Mexico. We're a Mexican based league with

632
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:23.440
American pro football rules. Will have
three teams in Texas, three teams in

633
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:27.920
Mexico. In fact, we just
announced a team, the first ever team

634
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:36.519
relocating from Mexico to Dallas, the
Pioneers, and we have independent ownerships.

635
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:43.079
But we're not coming in and saying, hey, we're bringing American pro football

636
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.199
to the Mexican fan base. No, we are going to grow and develop

637
00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:52.039
the game from a youth level.
We're going to develop youth programs and every

638
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:57.480
city we're in we're going to establish
flag football leagues, women leagues, and

639
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:02.480
it's to grow the game, not
just the league, the game of football

640
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:08.559
internationally. And that's our hope,
that's our expectations. If you look at

641
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:15.239
the logistics of where each team is
strategically placed, they can all be shuttled

642
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:20.280
on buses, okay. And so
that will be the first season we will

643
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:24.320
have independent ownerships. We will be
based in each cities. There will be

644
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:30.519
no hub. We want to connect
with the community and establish ourselves in the

645
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:37.559
markets. We're going to kick off
in June twenty twenty four. And there's

646
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.039
more. We'll have a rookie draft
in December. There's going to be eight

647
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:47.559
combines before then. The first one
will be held July twenty ninth in San

648
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:53.800
Diego. There will be several in
Mexico. We're coming to the northeast,

649
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:58.960
the southeast, the midwest, the
west coast, and we're gonna find the

650
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:02.840
talent and they're going to be eligible
for our draft, and they're not going

651
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:08.280
to be just eligible for the International
Football Alliance. We are working with strategic

652
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:16.119
partnerships and relationships with other international leagues
around the globe. There is a broadcast

653
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:21.400
deal in place. I can't announce
that yet, but I've been very impressed

654
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:27.920
and blown away with the leadership and
ownership groups, and I'm excited. Well,

655
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.079
now you get to you know,
you got to put your money where

656
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:31.519
your mouth is here where it's been
like, yeah, we spent here and

657
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:35.400
you know we're critiquing whatever. Now
you're getting diving head into this. What

658
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:40.920
inspired this or brought this on for
you to get involved? Well, they

659
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:47.079
called me and pursued me aggressively.
I feel like that the past twenty plus

660
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:54.480
years, I've been kind of grooming
for this job, for this role because

661
00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:00.559
here at the NFL Draft Bible,
I've been boots on the ground read for

662
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:07.639
the last two decades of living this
life and providing players with opportunities. And

663
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:12.199
now I get a chance to do
it for the entire world. I feel

664
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:16.400
like the future of American pro football
is in my hands. That's how I

665
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:20.199
look at it, and that's what
I'm excited to do. I feel like

666
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.000
this is the next challenge for me. I was so excited to learn that

667
00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:30.280
American Pro football is now the second
most watched sport in Mexico behind soccer.

668
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:36.400
It has surpassed baseball. So there's
a thirst for this in North America and

669
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:42.079
there is a huge thirst around the
world. And we are going to empower

670
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:47.800
other countries to be sustainable, educate
and teach them how to develop their leagues.

671
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.639
And we're gonna work with other leagues. We're not in competition. We're

672
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.280
gonna work in association. And the
salaries, I know is going to be

673
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.280
the first question. It's going to
be very comparable to what you're seeing in

674
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:06.519
these alternate spring leagues. Well,
this is exciting. I'm glad that we

675
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:07.559
can kind of help be a part
of this. You know, you have

676
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:10.000
a home here. Anytime you want
to say anything or do anything, so

677
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:14.119
I appreciate it. Anything else about
this or anything else before we get out

678
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:15.760
of here the back, you know, I do have a couple of things,

679
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:22.239
you know, ri c at IFA
dot football for any inquiries, a

680
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.800
couple of housekeeping notes. So in
order to be eligible for the December an

681
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.920
All Girl Draft, you have to
compete in one of the eight combines.

682
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:37.079
We will immediately have a supplemental draft
held in January and then the free agency

683
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:45.599
signing will happen in February leading up
to the June kickoff. Okay, there

684
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:52.440
is some confusion there amongst a John
Jenkins combine that players were told they were

685
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:59.599
going to be in the if A
draft pool. The league office is currently

686
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:07.039
investigating the whole situation and any player
who participated in that event, we will

687
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:12.199
be reaching out to you to clarify
your status. Okay, but you will

688
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:16.639
have the opportunity to be eligible for
the if A draft and if you choose

689
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:23.920
to come and compete in one of
these other IFA affiliated camps or combines,

690
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:29.320
if you did participate in the John
Jenkins camp, we will waive your fee

691
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:34.719
so that you can come and work
out in front of the if A decision

692
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:39.800
makers such as how Mummy, such
as Mark Lazano, Sancha as Noel Mazzoni

693
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:45.960
and individuals such as that magnitude.
So we're looking forward to it. Stay

694
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:51.559
on the lookout. Yes, my
Twitter handle will now serve as everything if

695
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:57.280
A. Buckle up. The floodgates
are about to open, and I appreciate

696
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:00.800
you read providing the platform right here
on the Mark Cast to get that news

697
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.400
out there. Well, Rick,
I appreciate it. Like I said,

698
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.679
the wealth of knowledge here, so
you know whatever you're involved in, and

699
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:09.800
I certainly appreciate it and that we'll
get you back on. But thank you

700
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.840
so much, like I said,
for doing the time and prep and kind

701
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:15.840
of having all this ready to go. It means a lot, So thank

702
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:23.599
you sounds great. Well, normally
we go live every week. It's very

703
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:28.119
rare now that we actually prerecord this, but I'm sure we'll She'll get into

704
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.679
the same Shenani against it. We
have Pat Raphino here, Pat, how

705
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:32.840
are you doing? I'm doing well, man. I just got done practicing

706
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.920
my long snapping. Probably do about
twenty reps today just in case I calls,

707
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:43.440
So be ready, Yeah, be
ready for the call. Well,

708
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.519
we've had so you know, Pat
and I've been doing our Monday recaps or

709
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:52.400
Tuesday recaps USFL. Now, the
USFL haters that we are have assembled our

710
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.880
own all all USFL team here for
the mark cast. Pat, how's the

711
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:00.079
article up? I will publish it
on Friday with the article are you with

712
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.920
the video here? And then we're
going to take umbridge with the USFL list

713
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:07.719
as well. So any preface stuff
before we get into this. Really Um,

714
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:13.559
I saw a couple like obviously,
Mike did a Mike did his own

715
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:20.440
article. Um Luke Miller from Newsroom
did an article. M a meme was

716
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:23.760
made by the network guys. So
I mean, I mean, I appreciate

717
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:28.440
anyone who takes the time to physically
write all this stuff down rather than you

718
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.039
know whatever. And I'm not trying
to throw shade, but regardless, there

719
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.800
are a lot of people who are
putting out so their stuff on Twitter and

720
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:38.360
their platforms as well. So I
think it's you know, I think it's

721
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:40.880
pretty cool, you know that a
lot of people are in the community.

722
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:49.559
I think I think there was only
one other person I saw outside of news

723
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:53.119
Hub to do an all XFL article
All the XFL. And I apologize that

724
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:58.320
I was watching that I didn't do
do one, because you know, we

725
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.400
were kind of rolling pretty hard in
the USFL season and believe it or not,

726
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:07.360
like I do have like a real
gledge, but yeah, but I

727
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:10.400
but yeah, I felt like we
needed to do to do it, you

728
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:13.559
know, we have I had a
little bit of time, so I had

729
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.159
no problem doing it well. And
the cool thing about the all USFL team

730
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:19.920
kind of thing is you're able to
you know, I mean magoo and stuff.

731
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.400
I mean, some guys are gonna
get accolades regardless, but it's good

732
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.079
to kind of put a spotlight on
some of the positions and maybe don't get

733
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:27.800
as much bizazz or some of the
players aren't, you know, kind of

734
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.639
going the whole way down picking quarterback, you know, positions all the way

735
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:32.480
down, special teams and all of
that stuff. So first off, at

736
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:37.320
USFLU what is it now? The
USFL dot com? I could never remember

737
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.360
their actual thing. Uh, this
was different than you know, the R.

738
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:43.719
J. Young I think had his
like stand out halfway through the season

739
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:46.119
with no offensive lineman or whatever.
This is a little bit more full fledge

740
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:50.880
here. I don't know who exactly
with the USFL put this together, but

741
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:55.159
but what stands out to you about
the all USFL um the offensive lineman and

742
00:52:55.480 --> 00:53:00.119
I believe Kyrie Woods was not on
it. Um. Offensive line is the

743
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:05.239
hardest position to evaluate, right and
I'm pulling it up on my computer right

744
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:09.280
now. So there are two guys
that stood out to me, Marquis Lucas

745
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:14.239
and I believe Kirk Kelly. Both
of them did not get all USFL honors.

746
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:17.599
They were the highest some you know
Ben Cooper and Mark excuse me,

747
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.880
Mike made a very good thing about
this. Is like Ben Cooper did ninety

748
00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:23.039
percent of the work for a lot
of guys, you know what I mean.

749
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:28.199
Like, obviously there's some football pizzazz
in there that you need to figure

750
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:30.199
out. But in the end,
like you know, the grade is the

751
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:35.119
grade for a reason and ninety percent
of the time, like it is accurate

752
00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:39.679
and whatnot, and it does coincide
with how air quote the popular vote of

753
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:45.119
a lot of this comes down.
So to see to see, uh,

754
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:51.079
excuse me, Kirk Kelly and Marquis
Lucas not getting any recognition was a little

755
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:55.639
bit disappointing to me. Into U
Kyrie Woods as well, So I don't

756
00:53:55.639 --> 00:54:00.639
think he was selected either at the
safety position. I think he was the

757
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:07.000
highest graded player in during PFF.
But now that's saying that's end all be

758
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:12.960
all. I think that'd be extremely
irresponsible. But that's my opinion. I'm

759
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:15.559
really glad. I felt like this
gentleman Adam Rodriguez got snubbed last year.

760
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.800
I think he was second in the
league in sacks. Seeing him get the

761
00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:23.400
award this year pretty solid in my
case, or in my opinion, and

762
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:30.000
then I mean so and well,
we'll kind of deviate off some of this

763
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:37.599
a little bit, but I went
with Ryan Navarro for my long snapper,

764
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:40.519
and I know who cares about long
snappering right outside of me, but there

765
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:45.199
is a you know, cult like
community that does. And the way I

766
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:50.599
did it was as many snaps as
you could have, like the like the

767
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:54.480
punting thing. You know, you
could take the statistics how you want,

768
00:54:54.559 --> 00:55:00.760
inside the twenties, hang time,
this that longust plant yardage um. For

769
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:04.239
me with like the special team's position, it always comes down the volume.

770
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:07.960
So like if you went, you
know, ninety three for one hundred,

771
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:13.239
you know, obviously that's an even
number ninety three percent, But like when

772
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:16.559
you obviously up the volume, you're
gonna shine yourself for more miss kicks or

773
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:21.440
like, okay, you had seven
misses, but they were all from fifty

774
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:24.360
five and out. You know,
That's it's kind of like Sebastian Janikowski.

775
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:28.679
They would try to field goals with
him from sixty plus and it's like he

776
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:30.639
had five miss field goals and in
a year and it's like, yeah,

777
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.760
they're all over fifty though, Versus
a guy who kind of took the cheap

778
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:39.800
route and you know it was hitting
forty forty forty forty any other big science

779
00:55:39.800 --> 00:55:44.960
I felt like Boogie wasn't on here, any other kind of big notable snubs

780
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.639
that you saw a kind of outcry
today from the Twitter series. Yeah,

781
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:53.079
I mean, like you really couldn't
go wrong in my opinion, with John

782
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:58.880
Atkins, Toby Johnson, Boogie Roberts. There's only two spots, so it's

783
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:01.480
kind of just like who's your guy
type of thing, you know what I

784
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:05.960
mean, And it's like who who
did you like the most? It kind

785
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:08.360
of goes like I would flip points
on all three of those guys, and

786
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:15.519
that's pretty much what I did,
including the Pittsburgh Muller's defensive tackle Isaac I

787
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:17.440
can't say his last name, it
starts with an S, but I mean

788
00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:22.199
he was another guy that was up
there as well. I mean like it

789
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:27.320
kind of in my opinion, it
kind of gets a little goofy goofy with

790
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:31.920
that, like sometimes just it's too
close, you kind of wonder wonder what

791
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:36.599
was the deciding factor? And that
intrigues me more because if you know,

792
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:39.199
as long as any and four of
those guys were like they're all gonna feel

793
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:45.159
snubbed obviously the ones you didn't make
it, but regardless, like at that

794
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:47.760
point, I feel like it's more
of a fan bias than an actual,

795
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:52.599
like analytical perspective of like, oh, you know, Boo, you didn't

796
00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:54.320
make it or this guy didn't make
it, and it's like, I mean,

797
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:58.000
they all played really well throughout the
whole year, and at some point

798
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:01.159
that the light of demarcation gets,
like I put Boogie as my defensive tackle,

799
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:05.360
but I just felt like he meant
more to the team than Toby,

800
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:07.280
you know, and like other people
could call me wrong and Toby would call

801
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.760
me wrong and that's fine, but
you know, it is an opinion based

802
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:17.599
rating for some of these less sexy
positions. No Matt Mangel as well,

803
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:21.679
a friend of the show on here. I mean, I guess no surprise,

804
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:23.480
right, I mean, like Magoo
and everything. Somebody whom running back

805
00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:25.960
MARYA, Mark Thompson, West Hills, I mean, some of them,

806
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:29.960
I think you're a little bit more
cut, you cut and dry who you're

807
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:34.360
going to have on there. What
was the issues with Mark Thompson tweeting that

808
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:37.000
he wished he played quarterbacks he could
get the MVP because they haven't US hasn't

809
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:40.639
right announced their MVP yet, but
it's presumably Magoo. It is Mark Thompson

810
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:45.320
trying to make the position the case
that he should be MVP. I mean

811
00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.960
he has an opportunity to, and
I mean Kavante Turfin won it last year

812
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.800
through playing in multiple facets of the
game, whether rushing the ball, catching

813
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:55.519
the ball, and returning kicks and
punts. Right, So it's like,

814
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:02.280
we're not in that NFL sphere where
essentially the m is the best quarterback right

815
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:07.800
now. And we've talked about this
a couple of times where when Andrew Luck

816
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:10.599
played, he was the most valuable
player because of what they did without him.

817
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:16.599
Right, So it's like, do
TJ pleasure to me? Devalues Mark

818
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:21.519
Thompson as the MVP a little bit
because of how great TJ was the first

819
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:27.440
two weeks when Mark was out,
Alex Magoo came in and granted, he

820
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:31.480
put up some great stats and everything
like that, he put up some great

821
00:58:31.480 --> 00:58:36.400
stats, it was really impressive and
whatnot, but he came in as the

822
00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:38.519
backup and to see what he did
to that team, like the drop off

823
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:45.199
between him and Jamar Smith like non
existence if anything. They accelerated on that

824
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:49.880
accelerated a little bit. So then
you take and I might be talking in

825
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:53.119
circles here that same logic with TJ. Pleasure to Mark Thompson, Like if

826
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:55.800
Mark Thompson's gone, they have another
running back in there, they might be

827
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:59.880
doing the same thing. Where as
far as Magoo's gone, it's not happening

828
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:02.599
with Jalen Morton. And we've we've
seen Kyle Silier. You know, I

829
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:06.760
think he improves a little bit,
you know, because I think this team

830
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.400
is better than the Breakers from last
year. But regardless, like you know,

831
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:15.559
Soldiers soldiers been Bank was banged up
in the UH in the XFL,

832
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.119
he was banged up all last year, Like we kind of know who he

833
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:22.079
is at this point. Anything else
from this one will get to your list

834
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:24.719
over on the Mark Cast. Anything
else from the Usabella list, I mean

835
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:28.519
justin Hall, I get it.
Um, I don't really like the only

836
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:31.239
two receivers, but I mean I
only put one running back in mind,

837
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:36.199
so I mean pick and choose.
I did give a fullback shout out online.

838
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:39.039
Um, you know it's it's a
position and the NFL does it,

839
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:43.719
so why not us, Like you
know, it's it's my opinion. You

840
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.239
know, I can't. I can't
fault any of these guys. Man,

841
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:50.920
Like, you know, we don't
know what the actual analytics of the voting

842
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:53.800
committee committee are. So until we
do know, then we're kind of in

843
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:58.880
that rock and a hard place as
far as like who's who and whatnot?

844
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:01.599
If that makes sense. So we
have this up mine here in draft mode

845
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:05.440
right now, the Mark cast.
I don't want to go through all USFL

846
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:08.480
team. Hopefully I have this formatted
correctly. We can edit anything to hear

847
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:12.760
and published when we go left,
what do you have? Where do you

848
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.119
want to start here? I mean, we'll go. We'll go. You

849
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:20.880
know, if who if if if
not McGoo, then who. I'm willing

850
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:24.000
to hear the argument. I don't
hear anything, you know what I mean.

851
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:28.199
I feel like everyone's pretty on board
with that. Mark Thompson's a pretty

852
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:35.320
easy easy pick for me. Um, you know, West Hills kind of

853
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:37.519
fell off a lot and there was
more offensive weapons around him. When we

854
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:42.760
talk about value at the position,
Thompson was the most valuable running back,

855
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.039
you know what I mean? And
he is I believe he is the second

856
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:51.840
second place in the MVP case.
And then uh, I mean throwing whoever

857
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.280
you want for a position for hell
EJ. Perry for all I care,

858
01:00:54.400 --> 01:01:00.760
right, but then you go into
I gave Mason Stocky the full he was

859
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:04.960
my next He was my next one. A lot of teams obviously don't use

860
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:08.800
the traditional fullback. He did a
lot of you know, receptions out of

861
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:15.000
backfield working as an HVAC. The
only person close to him is a friend

862
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:17.920
of my show, Clint Sigg,
who when he was out there, he

863
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:21.920
was lining up in the backfield a
lot. You saw some JJ Wilson and

864
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:27.119
Daniel Helm did some stuff, but
in reality was Mason Stocky was the most

865
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:31.440
traditional true fullback, and I do
think that deserves a lot of accolades and

866
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:37.679
recognition. So if Mason's watching this, you know, just let people know

867
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:40.039
like people care about your existence,
you know what I mean, and that

868
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:44.000
we see you doing the hard work. So I felt that was nice to

869
01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:50.920
know. Receiving receiving Corps Devin Gray, big shout out to him over five

870
01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:55.480
hundred yards kind of got a little
bit under shadowed with Corey Coleman there unanimous

871
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:59.840
pick. Corey Coleman, I feel
like is everyone's guy. Joe Walker had

872
01:01:59.880 --> 01:02:02.320
a really good season for the Panthers
through Um, you know, very versable

873
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:07.679
guy. Uh played on some spec
teams and whatnot. Over five hundred yards,

874
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:12.400
led that Michigan team and receiving UM
the next one, dave On Davis.

875
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:16.880
Really with the absence of Victor Bolden
and UM Marlon Williams getting hurt,

876
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:22.199
really came the guy over there,
you know, became him and Magoo outside

877
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:25.000
of Sternberger. You know, those
guys combined for over a thousand yards and

878
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:30.639
I think to twelve of magoose touchdowns. I don't think enough people talked about

879
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:36.239
him and after his want I don't
know if the word struggles is appropriate from

880
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:39.000
the roughnecks of the XFL. Really
great to see him, you know,

881
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:44.360
become a top five receiver in this
league. I didn't do honorable mentions because

882
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:46.440
you know, there's so many guys
you can give credit to, but the

883
01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:52.440
Breakers receivers, Trey Quinn, all
those guys, you know, those third

884
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:55.800
and four spots can be start becoming
your favorite, your favorite by you know

885
01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:00.800
who's your favorite guy. The thing
is about Devin Gray I wanted to throw

886
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:04.199
in there is that he was their
holder as well for the majority of the

887
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:07.440
season. So the fact that he
kind of did a double duty and with

888
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:12.239
the injuries that they had, and
then essentially you know Terry Wright coming all

889
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:15.840
older later, that guy did a
lot of great work and worked really hard

890
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:20.239
to be able to put be put
in a position to you know, help

891
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:24.039
this team almost make a playoff run. Moving down the tight end. I

892
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:30.719
put Jay Sternberger set the all time
the new modern record for receiving touchdowns.

893
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:34.760
Real cute there, but also the
fact that it was really him and davey

894
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.519
On Davis with like a random guy
doing some good stuff or CJ. Marrable

895
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:43.519
having a good game. Sternberger had
his drops and whatnot, but we didn't

896
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:46.400
see as much of a tailoff as
we did with Sage sarat who just burst

897
01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:52.400
out of the gate offensive line.
Real fun position. For me, I

898
01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:57.239
got a little lazy with it.
I went with PFF for Kirk Kelly and

899
01:03:57.320 --> 01:04:03.000
Marcus lucas Is and excuse me,
Shamarius Gilmore, where some of the top

900
01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:08.280
rated offensive linemen for PF. That
makes the job a little bit easier.

901
01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:11.280
And then when I started looking at
this right you know, some of the

902
01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:15.079
things I didn't agree with, So
that's when I decided to put Terry Pool

903
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:19.440
in there, because Terry Poole,
you really saw that Muller's offense stabilize and

904
01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:25.920
get consistent. When you do these
PF scores, if you give up the

905
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.440
sack, it's the player that you
were blocking. So with Troy Williams,

906
01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:32.639
with him running around and whatnot and
doing all this goofy stuff, you might

907
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:38.000
have your defensive player give up the
sack. Well, guys been running around

908
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:41.599
the backfield for nine seconds. Someone's
gonna get lucky, you know, and

909
01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:45.719
trip this guy up. Terry Pool, older guy was released from the Generals,

910
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:50.199
playing the XFL the afn't. I
know he's with NFL teams, but

911
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:54.079
I don't know if he's played in
an NFL game. Regardless, he's like

912
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:58.239
thirty one thirty two years old.
Really loved what he did throughout the whole

913
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:01.960
USFL seasons. And then there's a
leadership presence as well. Noah Johnson.

914
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:08.039
Big thing about I liked about him
was how terrible that Michigan Panther's offensive line

915
01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:12.679
last year was. And while they
weren't great, once again, the stabilizing

916
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:18.039
force he brought to this team was
outstanding. And really it was essentially what

917
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:21.280
kind of helped them get to the
playoffs, and then the leadership he showed

918
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:27.079
along with Ryan Nelson and Bordarius Ham
in that final game with a rookie quarterback

919
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:30.360
is something that you don't obvious to
get on the stat sheet. That's good.

920
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:34.880
A lot of good work here going
through any I guess surprises in terms

921
01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:38.800
of the number of players from teams. I mean, it looks like it's

922
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:42.719
pretty well distributed. It's always funny
a team like the Malers ends up getting

923
01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:45.159
a bunch of Hey, you know
they're in the playoffs. Yeah, I

924
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:46.880
mean last year they sent the most
guys to the NFL. I believe,

925
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:50.320
I think they hit seven or eight
inhime was Yeah, it was them,

926
01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:54.760
and like the Gamblers both like some
of the worst teams ended up having most

927
01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:57.400
of the guys. It's always weird
how that it just doesn't equate. I

928
01:05:57.400 --> 01:06:00.320
don't know if you blame coaching or
whatever at that point of why I couldn't

929
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:02.320
figure it out. Yeah, I
mean, at that point it's just you

930
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:05.840
know, I mean the Gambler's defense
last year, we've talked about a lot

931
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:12.400
like studs upon studs upon studs,
you know, moving down to defense here,

932
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:16.679
what you got so got into my
defense. Breeland speaks pretty easy boys

933
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:21.760
Boogie John Atkins, you know John
Atkins. I felt I was really glad

934
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:29.199
he got the air quote official all
USFL ranking. He's been a consistent disruptor.

935
01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:31.360
I've talked about him on the show
a bunch of times. He had

936
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:35.320
the Player of the Week nominee.
But something about Boogie Roberts' game this year,

937
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:42.559
while he's been such a face of
this league, he came into the

938
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:45.840
season way leaner, way stronger,
firing off the ball, and to see

939
01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:49.480
his fundamentals didn't look like last year
he was kind of just clogging holes.

940
01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:55.280
This year he was moving people.
It's actually using more technique, and a

941
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:57.679
lot of people don't realize he's I
don't want to say he had a year

942
01:06:57.719 --> 01:07:00.599
off from football, but wasn't actively
on you know, the waiver wires and

943
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:04.239
everything like that from twenty one to
twenty two. So now you see him

944
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:09.639
come back, um, and you
know, probably was training a little bit

945
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:13.559
harder this time. So we're getting
there to the point where it's like this

946
01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:16.880
guy really took not that he didn't
take it seriously before, but he stepped

947
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:20.559
it up a little bit and then
you saw the overall success of Tavino and

948
01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:26.119
Ruben Foster and that you know,
those those are stats you don't always see

949
01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:29.599
with a defensive lineman, is you
know, clogging taking two blocks so your

950
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:35.239
linebackers can make all those tackles.
Um you know, Adam Rodriguez underrated player.

951
01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:39.360
You know, last year he got
snubbed. This year, you know

952
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:44.360
from both of many many sources,
he was you know, honored, and

953
01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:47.679
then Hercules Modafafa talked about it a
lot. I felt like every time I

954
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:50.639
was watching him, he was he
was making a play in the backfield or

955
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:56.079
something like that, or disrupting player, disrupting plays in the backfield. It

956
01:07:56.119 --> 01:08:00.960
was really great to see, especially
on that on that Stars game where he

957
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:03.000
was moved from the right side to
the left side and got the game winning

958
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:10.239
sack. Moving on down here,
whether we got Frank and everyone else here

959
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:13.679
with the linebackers, I mean,
I don't think many people are gonna argue

960
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:18.399
with Frank and in Tavino pretty easy, pretty easy picks. Top two tackler,

961
01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:24.000
does he know, top two tacklers
in the league, does he know

962
01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:30.479
had a lot of of of interceptions, turnovers, you know, game changing

963
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:35.359
plays, get into one defensive Player
of the Year or of the week or

964
01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:42.159
four times this year. Um digs
playmaking type. Guy really came on late

965
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:45.000
strong in the season. Really liked
a lot what he did, and he

966
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:47.359
had a great last two weeks,
which is really kind of what gave me

967
01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:54.159
a little bit of a recency bias
for the guy as well. Moving on

968
01:08:54.199 --> 01:09:00.680
down here, he's easy choice for
me. Lavonte Taylor. While sometimes he

969
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.399
kind of played I don't want to
use the word lacks days ago, but

970
01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:09.039
sometimes coverage kind of lacks and he
got really the benefit of the doubt from

971
01:09:10.439 --> 01:09:12.760
from like you know, a bad
ball or nothing. Overall, I don't

972
01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:15.760
think he gave up any touchdowns throughout
the year. Sometimes it seemed like they

973
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:21.680
didn't even look to his side of
the field and whatnot. Really just you

974
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:26.760
know, overall, solid, solid
player played the you know, made a

975
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:30.600
lot of great pass deflections. I
think he was saying they were missing like

976
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:34.319
six pass deflections from him as well. Though he didn't get any interceptions,

977
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:40.640
he definitely felt like sometimes half the
field was taken away. Brian Allen overall

978
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:45.479
PROS pros, solid, solid person
up in the run, another leader on

979
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:48.920
that team. I felt that he
you know, was an additional stabilizing force

980
01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:53.079
and an underrated signing. I think
last year he played with the Saints for

981
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:58.039
a little bit after leaving the Stallions
in twenty two. Real great player in

982
01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:01.359
my opinion, older guy. I
think he's had a utah and just a

983
01:10:01.399 --> 01:10:08.479
great stabilizing force, long body,
taller corner, real athletic dude. While

984
01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:12.760
his statute might not always be the
most appealing, every time I saw that

985
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.760
guy looked like he had you know, when they're running. I felt like

986
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:18.800
a lot of times when I saw
a big play and Brian Allen was on

987
01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:21.920
the field, he was taking away
his option and that's something that stood up

988
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:28.319
for me. Mark Gilbert for interceptions, another great, great asset to that

989
01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:31.720
Muller's team. And then kind of
a little bit easy on the free safety

990
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:36.439
port Kyrie Woods highest greaty player on
PFF made my job a little bit easy

991
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:43.439
to go into that selection. And
then showing Mwani playing that center field coming

992
01:10:43.520 --> 01:10:46.319
up in the box, I think, in my opinion on the Panthers,

993
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:50.279
Kaid Nakula played a similar role and
I think he did better than him.

994
01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:54.560
However, Nikola didn't have as many
reps, so I had to give it

995
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:59.119
this Lwani for the second year in
a row. Well, there you go.

996
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:01.840
Look at there a moving down special
teams. I though we got mangling

997
01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:04.640
here. Glad to see Lizaguilar on
here. Some of you know, some

998
01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:08.720
of these are a little bit more
obvious. Derek Dillon is level with the

999
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:12.199
show boats. Not here on special
teams. I mean we talked about a

1000
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:17.760
little bit Navarro. I think l
led the league in reps for most like

1001
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:21.399
snaps between the punts, field goals
and extra points. I think he led

1002
01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:26.039
it by like six I did the
math for all of it, so it

1003
01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:29.079
took me that It took me a
minute to do it, so that I

1004
01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:31.319
kind of gave him that because I
don't think I saw a bad snap for

1005
01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:34.439
him. Grant they had a block, but sometimes, you know, sometimes

1006
01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:38.920
blocks on the snapper's fault. Mangel
a lot of reps. I think he

1007
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:43.399
had the second most punts in the
league's real up there in yardage. Friend

1008
01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:45.760
of the show as well. A
little bit of a bias towards that and

1009
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:49.399
a lot of these. Yeah,
I mean Mangel. Mangel and Miller were

1010
01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:53.279
my two guys, and I flipped
the point. I have to go with

1011
01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:56.279
I have to go, and you
know, I'm doing a little bit shilling

1012
01:11:56.439 --> 01:12:00.279
as well, hoping to have him
on my show at some point. Um,

1013
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:03.600
aguilar, you know I was gonna
put Kessman, believe it or not

1014
01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:08.520
because of the twenty one made field
goals, but something about putting the team

1015
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.760
on He put the team on his
back for about three weeks. You know,

1016
01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:15.359
they didn't score any touchdowns for three
weeks, and um, you know

1017
01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:18.960
ninety I think he had ninety five
points, which was the most for the

1018
01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:24.560
kickers one and then two was second
in the league. It didn't get much

1019
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:29.039
easier for that. Not much I
can say about Derek Dillon. Um,

1020
01:12:29.079 --> 01:12:31.720
I feel like he was personally robbed. Led the league in all purpose yards,

1021
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:36.800
two big return touchdowns. Um,
you know, split time at returner

1022
01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:41.640
as well, and still managed to
have almost seven hundred or over seven hundred

1023
01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:44.840
return yards, I believe. But
you know, they opted to go with,

1024
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:47.319
uh, they opted to go who
they go with? Excuse me,

1025
01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:54.439
um, I think they went with
Josh Simmons. Yeah, I mean I

1026
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:57.720
didn't go punt returner. I just
kind of went, uh, you know,

1027
01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:01.000
just general return specialist. Um I
da Henny. I think personally was

1028
01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:04.279
a good choice if you're going to
break it down the two, um,

1029
01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:09.720
you know, but you know,
Josh Simmons had some great returns, but

1030
01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:13.960
I felt like Deon Kane was above
Josh shimm in my opinion. But he

1031
01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:16.359
also was out for a couple of
games and whatnot as well, I believe.

1032
01:13:16.439 --> 01:13:20.840
So, I mean, someone's always
getting robbed, right, And then

1033
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:26.279
they went with a specialist, Vinnie
Papolli. So Papolli make a lot of

1034
01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:30.000
a lot of special teams tackles on
kickoffs. You know, they said a

1035
01:13:30.039 --> 01:13:32.720
couple of times after he scored a
touchdown, he'd be making the tackle and

1036
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:38.239
kickoff. Good for him, he's
invincible. Maybe it was a maybe it

1037
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:42.800
was a thing for his father.
You know, that's great. I know,

1038
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.239
it's it's crazy. Liked the thing
to turn around at that with some

1039
01:13:45.279 --> 01:13:47.720
of these players are going to do
a double duty out there. Is is

1040
01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:51.279
pretty crazy. And that's and we
talk about that in nauseum, right,

1041
01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:56.600
Like I don't need Vinnie Papolli to
put up six hundred yards in the usf

1042
01:13:56.600 --> 01:13:59.640
BEL to prove to me as an
NFL player. I need Vinnie Polli to

1043
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:04.039
average seven yards of return will probably
a little bit higher twelve yards of return

1044
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:09.800
and make tackles on you know,
for example, a guy like Joshua Cribbs,

1045
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:12.399
who's not on the NFL anymore obviously, but a guy like that,

1046
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:15.319
you know, That's what I mean. Well, I think you've done good

1047
01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:17.920
work here. We'll talk a little
playoffs here before we get out of here.

1048
01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:20.800
Anything else from your list US and
LS list, anything else on this

1049
01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:26.720
not really And you know, I
hope you know and who who are we?

1050
01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:29.279
Right, We're just a couple of
Bernis doing this, But I mean,

1051
01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:31.039
I just hope you know, some
of these guys don't get caught up

1052
01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:35.279
in these awards, you know,
like we you know, Tyler Huntley went

1053
01:14:35.319 --> 01:14:39.960
to the Pro Bowl last year over
some other quarterbacks like two touchdowns, you

1054
01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:44.399
know what I mean, like Taylor
hunt Will you know, different division or

1055
01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:47.039
conference, but you get what I
mean, Like hopefully you know, I've

1056
01:14:47.079 --> 01:14:50.319
seen some people tweet out the other
the other outlets, and you know,

1057
01:14:50.359 --> 01:14:55.159
while we might not always be as
friendly every day, it is good to

1058
01:14:55.159 --> 01:14:59.800
be recognized. And I'm glad that
there's so many different facets facets to this

1059
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:06.399
and whatnot that like someone out there
can feel that someone who has no allegiance

1060
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:10.720
to them in a way was recognized, you know, and that makes people

1061
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:14.119
feel good. And I mean,
you got a pretty decent following on Twitter

1062
01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:16.520
and whatnot, and you know,
depending on the day, my tweets get

1063
01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:25.119
you know, retweeted by Mike Floorio. So I mean, just part of

1064
01:15:25.159 --> 01:15:29.920
it's it's less about us and putting
a content out there believing about not that

1065
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:32.800
and I want to come off as
like a participation trophy guy, but more

1066
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:38.359
for these guys to know that people
people care, that they're putting their body

1067
01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:42.680
and the lives on the line to
entertain us and have them reached their goal.

1068
01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:45.920
So I'm glad I could do that
and that my list was different than

1069
01:15:46.399 --> 01:15:50.359
the usffos because I did this before
they came out. Well, I think

1070
01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:54.119
it's good. I think it's valuable. I think you know, like I

1071
01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:56.960
we joke every Monday or TZ in
here, we get a lot of grief

1072
01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:00.640
for all of the USFL stuff and
hate in the league eleven the league with

1073
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:02.439
every like you know haven't gone through
and watched all the games, like you

1074
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:05.439
haven't broken down and analyzed all of
them. That we have every Monday or

1075
01:16:05.439 --> 01:16:08.960
Tuesday. It's good. I think
it's a good stamp. I think it's

1076
01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:13.600
a good kind of showcase of your
work and this kind of attention the entire

1077
01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:15.439
season and kind of be able to, you know, put a bow on

1078
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:17.079
it and say these are people that
stood out to you and this is why.

1079
01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:19.399
And I think it's good. Like
I said, I see a lot

1080
01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:23.760
of people talk online. They don't
produce content at all, and so I,

1081
01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:26.720
you know, whether it's you or
the newsroom guys or whoever, like

1082
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:30.359
putting out the content, like actually
putting the workout. I think speaks volumes

1083
01:16:30.439 --> 01:16:33.920
versus like, oh, I tweeted
something funny like it's at that neat Yeah,

1084
01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:39.319
And I mean that's that's the goal
is, you know, we might

1085
01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:45.199
make one or two guys days feel
better. So we did our big just

1086
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:46.520
before we get out of here,
we did our playoff kind of preview a

1087
01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:50.920
little bit on the Tuesday's thing.
Any any updated thoughts on either the you

1088
01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:54.800
know, the sound division with the
Breakers and then the statues or with the

1089
01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:59.520
Mullers and was it Mullers and Panthers
in the North? Um? Not right

1090
01:16:59.520 --> 01:17:04.520
now? I mean we're still waiting
on more information, you know. I

1091
01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:08.600
mean, I don't have depth charts. I know, the Stallions brought in

1092
01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:15.359
Ryan Pope was the most recent recent
signing and whatnot. Injury reports haven't come

1093
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:17.399
out. So it's a little bit
hard to be like, oh, you

1094
01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:20.600
know, because how many times do
you feel like X players doing X thing

1095
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:25.359
and then you know, like,
yeah, this guy had a great game

1096
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:28.880
and you find out on Monday he
had a torn he had a torn hamstring.

1097
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:30.880
Well Homey ain't playing anymore, you
know what I mean. So it's

1098
01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:35.119
like I can't you know, it's
a little bit hard for me to deviate

1099
01:17:35.279 --> 01:17:39.479
off my path of where we've had, you know, a lot of this

1100
01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:43.159
stuff going on originally, if that
makes sense. Yeah, it's just weird,

1101
01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:45.319
Like I was thinking about this too, because we've obviously lamented you know,

1102
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:49.640
the communications and everything and certain hubs
being better than others and you know,

1103
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:54.319
providing players and whatnot. You know, half the teams are gone now

1104
01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:56.920
right, you know that aren't in
the playoffs and then this all move on.

1105
01:17:57.199 --> 01:18:00.239
It's just weird. I mean,
we saw the Radians this week down

1106
01:18:00.880 --> 01:18:02.479
you know we can I guess touch
on that, but you know, we

1107
01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:05.920
kind of we've said the similar things
every week on here with the decline radiings,

1108
01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:10.359
but it does feel like this kind
of just a wet fart then evaporated

1109
01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:13.000
into the distance here. I mean, we'll see, like we'll see what

1110
01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:15.079
the weekend ratings are, but I
don't know. I just felt like going

1111
01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:19.239
through the XFL season, having the
league, you know, continually helping,

1112
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:24.159
you know, all the different content
from creators we know, with like interviews

1113
01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:26.840
and content, and this is what
we're doing. Like the USFL, it

1114
01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:29.720
just it feels like it's just such
on its own island. I know they

1115
01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:31.920
gives to faun and them, you
know players from time to time. We've

1116
01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:34.600
certainly had guys on earlier in the
season when I was a little bit more

1117
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:38.680
motivated to keep following up, but
I don't know, it feels like they

1118
01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:41.239
just then they're just going to kind
of move on here. It doesn't feel

1119
01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:43.880
like we've lived through this the same
way we do with the XFL. That's

1120
01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:45.640
probably my Homer and me, but
it does feel like we were a little

1121
01:18:45.640 --> 01:18:49.199
bit more invested, like all together
and that kind of moving on here.

1122
01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:53.760
I mean, we had and I'm
sure some people are doing it, you

1123
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:56.439
know, like you know, some
of the local outlets. I've seen some

1124
01:18:56.439 --> 01:19:00.439
stuff, but I you know,
I covered the battalaws weekly zoomed, you

1125
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:03.039
know what I mean. And maybe
and maybe that's like the trajection for next

1126
01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:10.119
year something that I'm not trying to
like, you know, there's there might

1127
01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:13.760
be one person wearing a lot of
hats. I mean, I know there's

1128
01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:17.079
one, like you know, he's
doing a lot of different things. So

1129
01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:20.079
sometimes things just kind of are like, Okay, I need to knock out

1130
01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:24.399
my big checklist, you know,
and whatnot. So I feel like,

1131
01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:30.439
sometimes you know, things are just
a lot's going on, and you know,

1132
01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:32.720
there's I don't want to say that. I don't want to like poo

1133
01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:38.000
poo us or like any media outlet
or even like they're quote more established ones.

1134
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:40.760
It's just like there's a lot going
on and I got to move all

1135
01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:43.039
this stuff around and we have to
do this and we have to do that,

1136
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:45.039
and it's like, you know,
we don't have time to do zooms

1137
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:47.680
with everyone, you know, once
a week and whatnot, and like I

1138
01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:53.039
think, and it's kind of hard. It's not hard, it's not easy,

1139
01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:55.800
but I feel like at some point
you become in a routine once the

1140
01:19:55.840 --> 01:19:58.640
season starts and whatnot. I know, Memphis did a good job with like

1141
01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:02.720
open media practices and Whatnotum, you
know, but I'm not in Memphis.

1142
01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:05.279
You're not in Memphis, so it's
a little hard to do stuff like that,

1143
01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:10.000
you know. So I give that
Memphis Sullivan branding out there a lot

1144
01:20:10.039 --> 01:20:13.319
of credit because I was getting those
emails all the time and they were doing

1145
01:20:13.319 --> 01:20:17.680
a lot of stuff. Detroit had
that transition of like who was who was

1146
01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:20.399
doing their stuff as well. I
mean, Heather's done a lot of good

1147
01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:26.760
stuffs as well. But I think
I think right now, it's just I

1148
01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:30.600
would not be surprised in the future
if we went from zero to sixty because

1149
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:34.000
I feel like people are hearing what
we're saying and not when I say we,

1150
01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:38.680
I mean like everyone, you know
what I mean. And I feel

1151
01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:44.279
like how these leagues they all worked
hair court work together, but how they

1152
01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:47.479
you know, take bits and pieces
and whatnot. Like everyone's going to probably

1153
01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:50.119
see what works for them, what
doesn't work for them, and whatnot,

1154
01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:56.720
and I think from there we could
see a lot of growth. And I'm

1155
01:20:56.720 --> 01:21:00.720
hoping like for us, we're a
little bit more involved of next year and

1156
01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:05.560
whatnot. But both you and I
are not in those markets that kind of

1157
01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:11.399
like is where I'm just kind of
like, well, would it be different

1158
01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:15.880
if I was in Birmingham, if
I was in Canton because Paul Woods was

1159
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.279
down there. They gave Paul Woods, and Paul Woods is way different than

1160
01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:21.760
you or I, but like they
gave Paul Woods pretty much free reign from

1161
01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:26.439
what I saw when he was doing
his McLoud stuff. But you know that

1162
01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:30.000
might be just because of the history
between him and McLeod, you know what

1163
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:31.560
I mean. It might have been
a clause in the contract and whatnot.

1164
01:21:31.960 --> 01:21:35.199
Well I think yeah, I mean
I think too. It was like because

1165
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:38.760
that was a little bit more preseason, right, I don't you know,

1166
01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:42.479
I am not in any you know, we weren't in Arlington, but I

1167
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:45.199
was provided people from the XFL all
the time, right that we're in Arlington.

1168
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:48.600
Like my thing is, it's the
XFL goes. It's all of the

1169
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:53.640
CFLs better because they have more you
know, hands dealing with a lot of

1170
01:21:53.680 --> 01:21:57.239
this with their teams. But it's
this whole like, Okay, we're out

1171
01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:00.520
of season, we're not worried about
this or like we don't have you know,

1172
01:22:00.520 --> 01:22:01.800
we don't have time for this like
it's out of season, and then

1173
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:04.159
once it's in season, it's like
we're so busy, like we don't have

1174
01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:08.199
time for this. It's like,
so, when are you going to have

1175
01:22:08.239 --> 01:22:11.000
time for this because you don't have
time preseason and you don't have time in

1176
01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:14.920
season USFL. I think once the
season. I think those first couple those

1177
01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:18.680
training camps, like that's when I
got on, like Brandon Aubrey and I

1178
01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:23.039
had Oh, that's when case cooks
and stuff like that was all preseason.

1179
01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:25.319
It's like once the season starts,
like, well, we don't have time

1180
01:22:25.359 --> 01:22:28.000
for this anymore. Like no,
that's when that's when people wanted to do

1181
01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:30.119
this. That's when people are interested
in this. Yeah, I mean I

1182
01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:36.840
have no idea. I'd like to
I'd like to be down in Memphis next

1183
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:42.800
year and a little bit more and
you know, depending on where I'm at

1184
01:22:42.800 --> 01:22:46.359
with like my businesses and whatnot,
like because I offered to, you know,

1185
01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:49.720
go to Detroit and do like my
own stuff and like you know,

1186
01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:54.079
out of pocket. Just things in
line up and it is what it is,

1187
01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:57.479
you know, just send people agetting
back to me. You know,

1188
01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:01.239
everyone's busy. I get it.
So I'm curious to see I only think

1189
01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:04.279
it like Memphis. I use this
perfect example because they were doing like the

1190
01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:08.840
open practices from media. Like I'm
really curious to see if like I go

1191
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:12.000
down the Memphis and I spend a
good month there, right, excuse me?

1192
01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:16.520
Like what's you know, spending my
own money, my own time,

1193
01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:23.600
my own resources, excuse me?
And seeing what happens down there, Like

1194
01:23:25.079 --> 01:23:29.600
how not that I'm gonna be a
trendsetter or anything, but like could that

1195
01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:33.720
lead to more openness and whatnot?
And I mean you've seen my studio,

1196
01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:36.720
you know what I mean in Saint
Louis. And if I bring that down

1197
01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:42.479
to them and I'm doing all my
stuff, and it's like could they get

1198
01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:45.039
people who are way bigger than me, that are way more notable than me?

1199
01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:49.800
And like whether you know? Because
in my opinion, you're one.

1200
01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:56.439
You're one. Like a guy that
doesn't get talked about enough. Is Josh

1201
01:23:56.479 --> 01:24:00.800
Butler on the Panthers students a social
media superstar? You know what I mean?

1202
01:24:00.840 --> 01:24:04.039
Like Julian Allen social media superstar.
They kind of did it with chaste

1203
01:24:04.079 --> 01:24:08.960
the more it's not very good at
all. You know, he's kind of

1204
01:24:08.960 --> 01:24:11.520
a meme. But like that's something
that like I thought they could have used

1205
01:24:11.520 --> 01:24:15.239
those platforms a little bit to kind
of push things out, you know,

1206
01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:16.960
And it's kind of like what the
XFL did with Destroying and that I don't

1207
01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:23.720
know if you knew he had five
million subscribers on YouTube and it just seemed

1208
01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:25.880
like he kind of was just doing
it to do it. And I saw

1209
01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:29.680
him, like I saw him in
Saint Louis on the sideline, and he

1210
01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:31.159
was just kind of being there,
you know. It seemed like it was

1211
01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:35.439
more disinterested, like when the camera
wasn't on him. So I'm very curious

1212
01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:40.119
to see. Like I feel like
if you get one or two of these

1213
01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:45.399
dudes who actually like cares about football
and like not the way Destroying does and

1214
01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:48.560
whatnot, and you get them to
like put them on the podcast, you

1215
01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:51.199
know or something like that, like
what what does that do for a lot

1216
01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:56.359
of this stuff? You know?
Like and that's kind of like one of

1217
01:24:56.359 --> 01:24:59.760
my goals is like, you know, obviously big enough, so I can't

1218
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.199
alight some of these guys would be
the user exbo and like get more people

1219
01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:06.399
into this and whatnot, and like, I don't know, I feel like

1220
01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:11.319
I feel like it's going to come. You know, working with the league.

1221
01:25:11.319 --> 01:25:14.640
Hopefully we get to that point and
then more people kind of reach out

1222
01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:15.680
of the reach in. And you
know, I was a little disappointed.

1223
01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:19.960
I don't follow Josh Butler on these
like tiktoks or anything like that, but

1224
01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:24.800
you know, it would have been
cool to see some of that. Yeah,

1225
01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:27.520
well, I think we'll continue this. We'll I have a post here

1226
01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:30.239
on next week following the playoffs,
and then we'll obviously talk post championship game

1227
01:25:30.279 --> 01:25:32.880
as well, so more time for
this. But I think today this is

1228
01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:36.319
a good stopping point. I appreciate
the work for the l USFL team.

1229
01:25:36.359 --> 01:25:39.600
Like I said, we'll have that
on the website and the links and all

1230
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:42.960
that stuff, and obviously all the
work all season covering this and doing the

1231
01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:45.520
recaps and sus it's very much appreciated. Pat Yeah, no, and read

1232
01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:49.399
I'm honored to do it. You
know, like I was on someone else's

1233
01:25:49.439 --> 01:25:56.159
show last night and oh it was
just well, this has been what twenty

1234
01:25:56.239 --> 01:26:00.279
almost this will be I think week
nineteen going in the week twenty, and

1235
01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:02.920
you know, if you don't count
the preseason and whatnot, and well,

1236
01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:06.680
it's been exhausting and you know a
lot of guys like us who do both

1237
01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:13.359
leagues or you know, on fumes
and whatnot. It's been an amazing experience

1238
01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:15.600
and I'm really glad that I've been
able to, you know, be in

1239
01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:20.000
your community and so many other other
other people's community, both on the mainstream

1240
01:26:20.039 --> 01:26:25.920
and you know, in the freelance. In the freelance as well. Yeah.

1241
01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:29.720
I like these the XFL only podcasts
to take the Okay season finale,

1242
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:31.439
we're coming back next year. I
go, Okay, you know that's that's

1243
01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:35.119
interesting. So now none of that
here. Everybody back here every week.

1244
01:26:35.159 --> 01:26:45.439
Paraphina, thanks so much again.
Well, this is a gentleman that we've

1245
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:47.479
had on before and then I think
it's like a Twitter thing. I think

1246
01:26:47.520 --> 01:26:50.720
once you respond to someone sweet,
I've seen all your tweets last week.

1247
01:26:50.720 --> 01:26:54.920
I so we need to get Derrek
Taylor back on here. It's been a

1248
01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:57.800
couple of times. How are you
doing, sir? Everything is pretty good.

1249
01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:00.640
Uh. When when the team you're
calling games for wins games you contribute

1250
01:27:00.640 --> 01:27:04.520
nothing to them, but they win
you just the warm glow envelops you and

1251
01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:08.880
everybody's happy to talk to you.
It's it makes my job pretty easy.

1252
01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:12.159
Yeah, so we're friendly now.
Because obviously BC's playing winn a Peg.

1253
01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:15.079
This will air after that, so
right now we're friends because BC, that's

1254
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:18.680
America's CFL team, is like all
them general thoughts on winn a Peg.

1255
01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:21.199
I mean, we'll kind of do
a rundown here, but I mean it

1256
01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:25.399
feels like they haven't lost the staff. They just kicked the snot out of

1257
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:28.199
this. To Scatcher the rough Riders, Michael Ball was like, wow,

1258
01:27:28.199 --> 01:27:30.880
it's still like we can still feel
okay about this. I'm like, can

1259
01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:32.720
we really? I mean, they
look really good this year. Yeah.

1260
01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:36.199
Their offense is as advertised. I
thought it would be the best offense in

1261
01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:40.000
the league. To me, it's
certainly the best receiving core in the CFL,

1262
01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:43.760
and it comes with the best quarterback
in the CFL. I don't know

1263
01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:47.239
that I expected forty plus points in
each of the first two games, Like

1264
01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:50.840
they're a practice talking about, yeah, we could be better, blah blah

1265
01:27:50.840 --> 01:27:54.680
blah, and I just do the
math and think, if you keep putting

1266
01:27:54.720 --> 01:27:58.039
up forty burgers, you're gonna set
the season record for points. Right.

1267
01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:00.960
Sure, it's early, but if
you think you can get better and you'll

1268
01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:03.760
start having fifties on the board,
that The record I think for points is

1269
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:08.680
six hundred ninety eight. They're gonna
blow pass that. So it's been pretty

1270
01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:12.560
great. Two guys have two touchdowns, everybody else has one. They're spreading

1271
01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:15.479
it around. It's it's what I
thought it might be at its peak.

1272
01:28:15.560 --> 01:28:19.920
But it's happening in weeks one and
two, which is very unusual because the

1273
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:23.840
last year I felt like when they
pay like started slower and there were just

1274
01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:27.159
they seemed to be more concerned last
year going in versus and then obviously he

1275
01:28:27.199 --> 01:28:29.760
didn't really you know, they went
all the way anyway, but it seemed

1276
01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:32.600
like they weren't coming here hot.
Yeah, oh yeah. Last year it

1277
01:28:32.720 --> 01:28:36.359
was two slogs against Ottawa. It
was a low scoring game in Week one,

1278
01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:40.000
and then some weather was a factor
in Week two, but that was

1279
01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:43.640
low scoring as well. And honestly, it was a lot of the same

1280
01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:47.119
personnel right there. There was Greg
yellingson and we didn't necessarily know what Dalton

1281
01:28:47.199 --> 01:28:51.239
shown was at that time because he
was just starting his career. The offensive

1282
01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:55.720
line was virtually the same, the
quarterback was the same. But yeah,

1283
01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:59.439
they are a mile ahead of where
they were to start to start the twenty

1284
01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:03.920
twenty two seas. Should should rough
Rider fans feel good in their loss?

1285
01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:06.479
Here? It was like what twenty
seven forty five? I just I was.

1286
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:09.960
I watched that game, and I
know Termper Harris looked good. It

1287
01:29:10.039 --> 01:29:13.199
really didn't feel close to me.
I know, the score was closer and

1288
01:29:13.199 --> 01:29:16.239
then they didn't go for it and
you know I settled for the field goal

1289
01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:19.000
and kind of all that seven.
Should Siscatchewan wheur Frier fans feel good?

1290
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:23.960
I think they should. If Jane
and Grant doesn't make the return of a

1291
01:29:24.039 --> 01:29:27.640
lifetime, that's a three point game
and Winnipeg has the ball on its own

1292
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:30.279
twenty yard line, and I think
if you're Saskatchewan, you would feel pretty

1293
01:29:30.279 --> 01:29:34.239
good about that. Hey, our
defense. Winnipeg's offense is doing well against

1294
01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:39.159
our defense, but our defense can
show up. Right. Their offense was

1295
01:29:39.960 --> 01:29:43.920
roughly two point seven times better than
I thought it was going to be because

1296
01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:47.039
they don't have their three best receivers. There's no Keyan Shaeffer Baker, there's

1297
01:29:47.079 --> 01:29:50.439
no Braden Lennius, there's no Durell
Walker, and all of a sudden,

1298
01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:55.920
oh, here's Samuel Evelis. Okay, here's three touchdowns from Samuel Levelis and

1299
01:29:56.279 --> 01:30:00.359
Harris through one of the it's gonna
be one of the top ten pas asses

1300
01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:03.079
from a quarterback in the CFL this
season. He dropped one just over top

1301
01:30:03.119 --> 01:30:06.359
of Dietrich Nicol's shoulder too. I
gotta go back and see who the receiver

1302
01:30:06.520 --> 01:30:10.840
was. But we're in the booth, going how that? How does that

1303
01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:15.119
ball get there? Because it gets
like this far over top of Dietrich Nicol's

1304
01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:18.079
shoulder, who hadn't turned yet.
And I thought, Harris is on and

1305
01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:21.640
and if he is on, he's
the second best quarterback in the CFL.

1306
01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:26.760
And that's a great place to start
for an offense that I was. I

1307
01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:30.000
was super impressed with offense. According
to Kelly Jeffrey, I don't really know

1308
01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:33.279
much about him. He wasn't their
first choice, but he had it going.

1309
01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:38.840
Is he is Harris that big of
an upgrade over Cody or is it

1310
01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:41.279
just that maybe we've gotten a better
team around him, because I, you

1311
01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:44.239
know, Cody and I kind of
feuded and now we're friends and Cody and

1312
01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:45.000
I, you know, he's a
friend of the podcast, so I want

1313
01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:48.359
to I want to support my boy
here in Montreal. Yeah, I'm I'm

1314
01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:50.760
one of I feel like I'm one
of the few people who's still on Team

1315
01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:55.560
Fajardo. I I still think Cody
is an accurate passer. I think what

1316
01:30:55.640 --> 01:30:59.239
he can do with his legs is
a real added, developed, real added

1317
01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:03.560
dimension to his game. I'm still
on Team Fajardo. I think it's it's

1318
01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:08.399
an upgrade in a way. I
think they absolutely needed of Harris can just

1319
01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:11.520
command everything and the ball could be
out fast if he needs it to be

1320
01:31:11.680 --> 01:31:15.279
right. That was his m O
and parts of his career was you can't

1321
01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:18.520
get to me. We have a
two percent sack grate because you can't get

1322
01:31:18.560 --> 01:31:23.720
to me in time. I think
he just adds something different. And Fajardo

1323
01:31:23.840 --> 01:31:26.800
was injured last year. Let's not
let's not pretend that Fajardo didn't have a

1324
01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:30.199
have some injuries he was dealing with
last year. I I I'm still on

1325
01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:34.520
Team Fajardo. I just think that
a change just had to happen. But

1326
01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:39.239
while it's Harris, it's also Jason
Moss is out and Kelly Jeffrey is in

1327
01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:44.119
right. Offensive coordinator changes as well, and they'd hope to add some offensive

1328
01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:48.239
line things. It's a lot has
changed apart from Fajardo as well. Was

1329
01:31:48.279 --> 01:31:51.800
that the greatest top three. I
think John Hodge called the top three kickoff

1330
01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:57.960
return in them all time, it's
or pome return without you. I I

1331
01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:00.399
struggled to think of ones. There
are ones that are more important, right,

1332
01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:02.720
So we kind of have to take
the context of the game out of

1333
01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:05.960
it. Because Jeneryon returned one in
the West Final, and he returned one

1334
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:10.479
for a touchdown in the Gray Cup. Those are bigger, right, because

1335
01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:13.039
it's in the Gray Cup, and
oh my gosh, they now lead the

1336
01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:15.800
Toronto Argos. But I mean,
if you just take all if you take

1337
01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:20.479
the context of the game out of
it, skill for skill, it's it's

1338
01:32:20.479 --> 01:32:24.560
got to be top three old time. And I don't know what would be

1339
01:32:24.640 --> 01:32:27.880
ahead of it because he makes the
first guy miss and then he goes,

1340
01:32:27.880 --> 01:32:30.319
well, I gotta cut back now, and and just when you watch it

1341
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:35.399
again, there their Special Teams coach
Paul Boudreau said, that's as close to

1342
01:32:35.439 --> 01:32:40.520
a guy doing it by himself as
maybe I've ever seen. You go yeah,

1343
01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:44.000
because when he cuts back, people
can't hold their blocks or they're gonna

1344
01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:45.640
get called for a penalty. So
you gotta let him go. And any

1345
01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:48.840
stiff arms this guy and then he
stiff arms that guy and then he stiff

1346
01:32:48.920 --> 01:32:53.920
arms he turned the corner and cut
back, and it was it was incredible.

1347
01:32:54.359 --> 01:32:57.560
When I listened back to the call
I made at the time, I

1348
01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:00.319
was impressed with making the first guy
miss and then all he cuts back.

1349
01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:03.520
Okay, this could go really bad
or this might be something, but then

1350
01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:08.880
just the NonStop guy's fallen off.
I'm like Bo Jackson and tech Mobile back

1351
01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:11.720
in the day, right, that's
just fallen off them. It was.

1352
01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:18.079
It was incredible and to add in
the challenge element and it essentially, to

1353
01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:21.159
me, it almost ended that game
that that play stood because all of a

1354
01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:25.680
sudden, it's a ten point game
and you've just been decimated by one of

1355
01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:28.880
the greatest plays that we'll see,
probably the greatest player we're going to see

1356
01:33:28.880 --> 01:33:30.880
all year. That even though they're
still nineteen weeks to go oh yeah,

1357
01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:32.720
like you say, it was cool
that they went and they go, no,

1358
01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:35.399
we've review, like we've gone through
and we've you know, we've checked

1359
01:33:35.399 --> 01:33:39.159
all of this and then all you
know, because it is such a game

1360
01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:41.520
changing play at that point that they
kind of got to go back through.

1361
01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:45.960
In terms of, like I said, we a Winnipeg BASTI playing. I

1362
01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:48.239
think the original tweet I saw that
got us on this was the horrendous Elks

1363
01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:53.920
performance here, you know, at
BC shout out. I was very happy

1364
01:33:53.960 --> 01:33:55.920
to see that, right, and
I wanted so a couple of things.

1365
01:33:55.960 --> 01:33:59.960
First off, do you how bad
are the Elks? I guess right now,

1366
01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:04.119
right now? Really bad? Apart
from the Gino Lewis one hundred two

1367
01:34:04.199 --> 01:34:08.079
yard reception in week one, what
do they have? Two hundred yards passing

1368
01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:12.600
at fifty percent rate? And the
run game, which I think a lot

1369
01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:15.680
of us thought was going to be
really good because Kevin Brown looks like he

1370
01:34:15.680 --> 01:34:18.760
can really hammer dudes and run that
ball. Hasn't you know, hasn't picked

1371
01:34:18.840 --> 01:34:24.039
up the slack. There was a
point late in that game where TSN flashed

1372
01:34:24.039 --> 01:34:27.760
the graphic where Gino Lewis had one
target and one catch for something like nine

1373
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:30.720
yards only three hundred and twenty grand
and you've thrown the ball one time?

1374
01:34:31.680 --> 01:34:38.920
Ye yikes, And it's I'm I'm
not a Taylor Cornelius guy. I haven't

1375
01:34:38.960 --> 01:34:42.199
been for a long time. I
think he's just got a fundamental flaw that's

1376
01:34:42.239 --> 01:34:46.479
just unrecoverable at this point. But
there's so much else around him, and

1377
01:34:46.640 --> 01:34:50.039
Stephen McAdoo, for all the flack
he takes, has had success in the

1378
01:34:50.079 --> 01:34:56.439
Canadian Football League. His offense might
not be super intricate and super complicated and

1379
01:34:56.479 --> 01:35:00.840
full of fakes and cool pre snap
motions and stuff, but the they can

1380
01:35:00.880 --> 01:35:04.560
get it done with Stephen McAdoo offense. So it's it's less than It's much

1381
01:35:04.640 --> 01:35:10.199
less than I expected. Even though
I don't think Taylor Cornelius is particularly good,

1382
01:35:10.239 --> 01:35:14.640
I really did expect more, and
being shut out, like being shut

1383
01:35:14.680 --> 01:35:16.680
out for the first time in forty
six, forty seven years, is interesting.

1384
01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:19.439
I put a lot of that on
Chris Jones and who he's picked to

1385
01:35:19.479 --> 01:35:24.319
be a kicker, because if you
can't there at least two, if not

1386
01:35:24.399 --> 01:35:29.439
three circumstances where every other team in
the CFL would be trying a fifty fifty

1387
01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:32.079
one fifty two yard field goal,
and he runs out Jake Julian to punt

1388
01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:38.039
because I'm guessing he doesn't trust Faithful
as his kicker. You can't you can't

1389
01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:42.079
do that. You you absolutely can't
do that. You can't play field position

1390
01:35:42.119 --> 01:35:47.039
and hope that Julian can can maneuver
every punt perfectly or else you're gonna turn

1391
01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:50.359
you know, we drove to their
forty five and we punted for a single,

1392
01:35:50.399 --> 01:35:54.600
and now it's at the forty.
You're not gonna win that way,

1393
01:35:54.640 --> 01:35:57.720
So just get get some points.
If you have to go to get Mark

1394
01:35:57.800 --> 01:36:01.399
Leggio if Hamilton released him, get
a kicker, get a kicker and put

1395
01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:05.239
your global somewhere else. Well,
I just don't get There was a couple

1396
01:36:05.239 --> 01:36:09.079
of tweets and the one, you
know, Taylor Cornelius. You know we've

1397
01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:12.199
seen like twenty six or whatever games
now, like we've seen enough of this,

1398
01:36:12.279 --> 01:36:14.800
like we kind of know. I
just don't, you know, Chris

1399
01:36:14.920 --> 01:36:16.760
Jones, you know, we're obviously
new where to cover in the CFL brought

1400
01:36:16.800 --> 01:36:19.000
in and everyone says, oh,
it takes some time, and you know,

1401
01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:23.119
give him a couple like at what
point does he is he on the

1402
01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:26.399
hot seater? Is he kind of
more should be more under scrutiny here.

1403
01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:30.039
Yeah, it's it's got to be
coming because it's it was interesting to watch

1404
01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:34.279
certain folks believe in Taylor Cornelius or
believe that Cornelius can get a you know,

1405
01:36:34.319 --> 01:36:38.000
the shot, and they've kind of
moved the goalposts on. Well,

1406
01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:40.720
it's not your two where a guy
develops, it's your three, well,

1407
01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:43.840
and usually it's your two that we
talk about this stuff. But I can

1408
01:36:43.880 --> 01:36:48.920
I can understand because I know smart
football people who are huge Cornelius fans still

1409
01:36:49.399 --> 01:36:55.880
you Cornelius fans, because he has
this incredible ability for his size to run

1410
01:36:56.039 --> 01:37:00.760
and navigate the pocket and scramble,
and his arm is in radibly strong.

1411
01:37:00.800 --> 01:37:02.760
He probably I mean, it's probably
the strongest arm in the Canadian Football League,

1412
01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:06.760
just not real accurate, which is
kind of an important part of that.

1413
01:37:08.399 --> 01:37:13.119
And then it comes back to Chris
Jones committed all this money to Cornelius

1414
01:37:13.840 --> 01:37:18.399
for next year as well. If
I'm not mistaken, and I've been working

1415
01:37:18.439 --> 01:37:21.840
from this premise that I don't know
that I think Chris Jones is a great

1416
01:37:21.880 --> 01:37:28.640
general manager. He's obviously able to
coach guys up and get get his guys,

1417
01:37:28.720 --> 01:37:31.039
and guys fall in love with him
for whatever reasons are of what he

1418
01:37:31.119 --> 01:37:35.680
is behind the scenes. But I
just look at moves that he made when

1419
01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:39.199
he was the GM and sask and
the head coach. I never got the

1420
01:37:39.199 --> 01:37:42.920
impression that he cared much about his
offense like he had Zach Collaris, And

1421
01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:45.000
I never got the impression he cared
too much about his offense, and I

1422
01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:48.800
thought that might be changing when they
go and get Gino Lewis and Stephen Dunbar

1423
01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:55.560
and Kyron Moore to add to Manny
Arsenal and their Canadian talent. But then

1424
01:37:55.600 --> 01:38:00.000
they'll they'll have done weird things that
I don't understand, Like Dylan Mitchell popped

1425
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:03.640
last season. Well, Dylan Mitchell's
already been resigned. Dylan Mitchell was on

1426
01:38:03.680 --> 01:38:08.720
the first year of a rookie contract, already resigned. You're not taking the

1427
01:38:09.279 --> 01:38:12.239
two plus one that you have with
him, the you can get him on

1428
01:38:12.239 --> 01:38:14.960
a minimum salary for a time,
and you decided to resign him. Lady

1429
01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:17.159
Kevin Brown didn't start till late in
this season. He's already been resigned.

1430
01:38:17.199 --> 01:38:21.640
And I don't I don't understand if
they were afraid those guys were gonna leave

1431
01:38:21.720 --> 01:38:27.840
for the USFL or the XFL,
which would be their only concerns because the

1432
01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:30.479
NFL is always an option for everybody
at the end of the season. So

1433
01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:34.119
I'm back to I don't know if
I think Chris Jones is great at this

1434
01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:40.199
whole GM thing, and maybe someone
else should should take that over because there's

1435
01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:44.079
just a lot of a lot of
a lot of decisions that maybe it's my

1436
01:38:44.079 --> 01:38:47.399
own ignorance. I just don't get
well, I think it was I can't

1437
01:38:47.399 --> 01:38:50.920
remember if it was Hodge. Someone
was on here talking that that was why

1438
01:38:50.960 --> 01:38:55.279
Cornelius got that big contract when he
did. As I guess, there were

1439
01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:58.720
calls from the XFL or whatever,
which you because obviously he was with the

1440
01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:01.880
Vibrus about his last year. When
they signed Cornelius and then he came out

1441
01:39:01.880 --> 01:39:05.039
and threw it was like the end
zone interception there that the you know,

1442
01:39:05.039 --> 01:39:08.560
the Elks lost to get at home, Like the week that he signed the

1443
01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:11.359
contracts, you're like, can we
can we get that money back? And

1444
01:39:11.439 --> 01:39:15.159
just it seems weird. Yeah,
to focus so much money around Cornelius and

1445
01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:16.640
not really have a quarterback there they
could do, but that was kind of

1446
01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:18.680
what they did last year. It
was like, I mean, I don't

1447
01:39:18.720 --> 01:39:21.560
know. It feels like sometimes in
the CFL, like well we can pay

1448
01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:25.399
a lot for this receiver that will
elevate the quarterback, and I don't know

1449
01:39:25.439 --> 01:39:28.079
if that really is how it works
out. Well, they had so many

1450
01:39:28.079 --> 01:39:30.359
weapons right when we were contemplating,
well, how does it look as we're

1451
01:39:30.359 --> 01:39:33.520
forecasting the season, say in March
or April. You look at this Elks

1452
01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:38.520
receiving corps. It's it contends with
the Bombers for what's the best one,

1453
01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:43.199
Like Gina Lewis is a stud.
Stephen Dunbar you have to move his position,

1454
01:39:43.239 --> 01:39:47.760
but he's a stud. Dylan Mitchell
absolutely popped last year and he was

1455
01:39:47.880 --> 01:39:51.279
in a lot of guys top fifty
list as we voted for the CFL Top

1456
01:39:51.319 --> 01:39:55.920
fifty. And Kyron Moore is a
guy who who can be a weapon in

1457
01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:59.880
multiple ways. Manny Arsenal's that reliable
veteran. There's so much love for Gavi

1458
01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:02.880
Cobb from the University of Manitoba,
who was injured last season. They're not

1459
01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:09.840
without Canadian talent in Forbes, Mon
Blow and Danny Vandervoort who had a couple

1460
01:40:09.880 --> 01:40:13.840
of touchdowns in a game I called
and caught me totally off guard. They

1461
01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:17.439
are not without talent and this receiving
corps, and they've got Canadian offensive linemen

1462
01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:20.520
that teams would like, you know, would probably like Mark Cordy, maybe

1463
01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:24.199
not the price they pay him,
but they would like Mark Cordy to be

1464
01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:29.000
there. One of their interior offensive
Linemen. It's just yeah, when you

1465
01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:35.159
everything they've done makes sense for if
you believe Cornelius can be great, right,

1466
01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:39.600
everything absolutely makes sense. If you're
working for the basis that Cornelius can

1467
01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:44.159
be a great quarterback, signing him
to that deal makes great sense because pretend

1468
01:40:44.239 --> 01:40:46.399
he was top level, you'd be
saving one hundred and fifty two hundred grand

1469
01:40:46.439 --> 01:40:50.279
over what a top level quarterback should
get paid. I just don't get it,

1470
01:40:50.319 --> 01:40:55.359
because I've never thought I'm at the
point where I don't think Cornelius is

1471
01:40:55.399 --> 01:41:00.800
salvageable in the Canadian Football League because
of the problems that I've discussed in a

1472
01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:03.840
bunch of places. I just I
see all the things that is proponentcy,

1473
01:41:04.239 --> 01:41:08.159
but I don't see the thing I
need to see, which is the consistent

1474
01:41:08.239 --> 01:41:13.560
ability to hit receivers who are even
fractionally open in the right spot to get

1475
01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:15.800
them touchdowns. Gino Lewis Week one
open in the end zone. It but

1476
01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:18.520
just put a foot in front of
him, but it's a foot behind him

1477
01:41:18.520 --> 01:41:21.399
into the fender, and then they
don't can run second and down. They

1478
01:41:21.399 --> 01:41:25.560
have to kick a field goal,
and you just can't leave that on the

1479
01:41:25.600 --> 01:41:30.239
table at this level. In terms
of quarterbacks. You know, Vernon here

1480
01:41:30.359 --> 01:41:33.199
my boy in BC, and I
thought that, you know, the first

1481
01:41:33.239 --> 01:41:38.560
week he felt good, they said, he, oh he played good here.

1482
01:41:38.600 --> 01:41:40.840
Last week, I wasn't as in
brass ride. I mean, twenty

1483
01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:43.520
two. You know, twenty zero
is in the miraculous score. I mean,

1484
01:41:43.560 --> 01:41:45.880
I think that Brenda was very happy
to get that one touchdown. I

1485
01:41:45.880 --> 01:41:48.600
saw him kind of thanking God for
that. But you know, obviously Winn

1486
01:41:48.600 --> 01:41:51.279
a big defense and all that's going
to be a tough struggle this week.

1487
01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:55.199
But overall, how has he done
this year? Kind of now that it's

1488
01:41:55.239 --> 01:41:59.920
it's his house, it's his team, I think he's been okay to your

1489
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:02.640
point, twenty two nothing like.
That's five field goals, right, five

1490
01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:05.840
field goals. I feel like every
time the offense comes out the field and

1491
01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:09.359
the field goal team comes on,
they're like, this is a loss.

1492
01:42:09.359 --> 01:42:13.199
We should be getting seven, but
we're having We're having to settle for three.

1493
01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:15.319
That's just me putting words in their
mouths. They want to be scoring

1494
01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:19.000
touchdowns, right, and in games
against better opponents, you're gonna have to

1495
01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:24.880
score touchdowns. I was thinking about
the matchup they had with the with the

1496
01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:28.039
Bombers, Well, the Bombers are
putting up forty a game that's going to

1497
01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:31.039
be roughly fourteen field goals. You'll
need to get the forty and beat them

1498
01:42:31.079 --> 01:42:35.279
forty two forty one, right,
Like it's it's so hard to get there

1499
01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:38.319
with field goals, so you've got
to be able to put it in the

1500
01:42:38.399 --> 01:42:42.960
end zone. Their Week one opponent
was Calgary. Calgary did not look anything

1501
01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:46.239
like Calgary that we've been used to
for fifteen years, ten years, whatever

1502
01:42:46.279 --> 01:42:51.119
it is. So it was fine, and the game against Edmonton was okay.

1503
01:42:51.239 --> 01:42:57.439
The numbers or three hundred yards,
I get it. I'm not overwhelmed

1504
01:42:57.520 --> 01:43:02.199
with Vernon so far, and I'm
and I the funny thing, tell me

1505
01:43:02.239 --> 01:43:04.960
this strikes you as funny. People
are talking about Vernon's gonna break out.

1506
01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:08.640
I have this feeling like Vernon is
always the breakout guy. And then I

1507
01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:13.479
think he's thirty and I saw him
play in the old Taylor Field in Saskatchewan,

1508
01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:16.000
which was twenty fourteen, like he's
been around a long time. He

1509
01:43:16.119 --> 01:43:19.199
kind of he is what he is, and it's it's certainly workable. But

1510
01:43:19.439 --> 01:43:25.359
to think he's gonna take a Josh
Allen year two to year three leap from

1511
01:43:25.399 --> 01:43:29.840
the Buffalo Bills. The guys,
he's thirty's he's been around a long time.

1512
01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:31.479
When you've thrown more than a thousand
passes, we kind of we get

1513
01:43:31.479 --> 01:43:34.880
it. We kind of should understand
what you are well. And my problem

1514
01:43:35.039 --> 01:43:39.840
is, you know, even if
if BC sits at two all season here

1515
01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:42.680
in the West, you're still going
back to Winnipeg here and getting your ass

1516
01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:44.760
kre like he did last year.
I mean, like, you know,

1517
01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:47.239
like we kind of know what this
is. Anything can happen. I mean

1518
01:43:47.560 --> 01:43:51.560
I kind of hate anything can happen. But the Bomber's first first week game,

1519
01:43:51.560 --> 01:43:58.119
they gave up three touchdowns on a
block punt, a essentially oh Calars

1520
01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:00.720
fumble that ends up in the end
zone, and a fumble on a return

1521
01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:04.840
that essentially ends up in the end
zone though it took one extra offensive play.

1522
01:44:04.920 --> 01:44:08.239
If you get to that game,
you're you're in a good spot.

1523
01:44:08.319 --> 01:44:12.319
And I mean, Winnipeg's offense is
flying. Winnipeg's defense is not, in

1524
01:44:12.359 --> 01:44:16.319
my mind flying. And it was
a spot we looked at in the offseason

1525
01:44:16.319 --> 01:44:21.720
and went every year they another team
just chips away a piece of this Winnipeg

1526
01:44:21.800 --> 01:44:27.840
defense. Right Stephen Richardson went to
BC after twenty one, and Casey Sales

1527
01:44:27.880 --> 01:44:30.680
got very nice money to go to
Hamilton in twenty two. And you know,

1528
01:44:30.000 --> 01:44:34.199
okay, well that's those are two
big presences in that defensive interior.

1529
01:44:34.520 --> 01:44:38.479
And okay, well, now this
is they're going to run out a young

1530
01:44:38.600 --> 01:44:41.760
defensive backfield. You know, the
back six is quite young. Though it

1531
01:44:41.800 --> 01:44:45.039
has some very strong spots, it's
quite young. And the salary cap nature

1532
01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:49.199
of the sport, you're paying no
all this money for collaris and Kenny Lawler

1533
01:44:49.760 --> 01:44:55.079
and these guys. You know,
it takes. If you're going to pay

1534
01:44:55.119 --> 01:44:57.960
big money in some spots, you
have to go you know, thinner in

1535
01:44:58.239 --> 01:45:00.920
some other spots. And we're at
the I think we're at the point where

1536
01:45:01.760 --> 01:45:05.119
the Winnipeg defense of twenty twenty one, that's that's not your twenty twenty three

1537
01:45:05.159 --> 01:45:11.359
defense by any stretch. Those guys
were world beaters and now it's they're gonna

1538
01:45:11.399 --> 01:45:15.000
have to outscore like the offense is
gonna have to outscore some performances by their

1539
01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:17.720
defense. In my mind, in
terms of I'm kind of looking here at

1540
01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:21.600
this schedule, in terms of the
other teams Hamilton right now, it seems

1541
01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:25.720
to be kind of in a free
fall ride and Bow and we didn't look

1542
01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:29.319
good. And I had said,
I think Bows, you know, maybe

1543
01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:31.600
passed his prime. And I didn't
live through all the Bow. You know,

1544
01:45:31.640 --> 01:45:34.760
everything I've known about the CFL is
like he's competing with Jake Mayer and

1545
01:45:34.760 --> 01:45:38.520
then Jake Mayor takes over. But
how big of a deal is it?

1546
01:45:38.720 --> 01:45:41.720
Bo's out, Matthew Shields is playing, and then you know, just in

1547
01:45:41.760 --> 01:45:45.000
general, they didn't look good with
Bow. Yeah, they weren't. In

1548
01:45:45.079 --> 01:45:48.479
some spots, they weren't too far
from looking good. In the game against

1549
01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:55.720
Winnipeg and week number one, they
had receivers Chris Godwin or Godwin and Tim

1550
01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:59.399
White running in behind Winnipeg defensive backs
and Bow would just miss them. And

1551
01:45:59.439 --> 01:46:01.560
you go, that's that's close.
And then if you're on Hamilton side,

1552
01:46:01.600 --> 01:46:04.159
you go, ah, why can't
you? Ah? It would have been

1553
01:46:04.199 --> 01:46:10.680
so right here. It's it's one
of those things that happens. I think

1554
01:46:10.760 --> 01:46:15.880
I'm perhaps most excited for Hamilton's because
in what we've seen of Matthew Schiltz,

1555
01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:20.199
the guy who will take over this
week, he's exciting and he he has

1556
01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:25.039
some promise, right. I think
I've I've personally been foiled by guys who

1557
01:46:25.079 --> 01:46:29.279
have kind of a Matthew Shilts skill
set in past years. Um, but

1558
01:46:29.399 --> 01:46:30.800
Shilts, to me, throws the
ball better than anybody I can kind of

1559
01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:34.840
think OF's. He's the scrambler,
he's the he was the second quarterback in

1560
01:46:34.920 --> 01:46:39.159
some plays last season and they'd throw
him a swing pass and he'd try to

1561
01:46:39.159 --> 01:46:42.079
get up field stuff like that.
But I think he's a better pastor than

1562
01:46:42.159 --> 01:46:45.399
some of the guys that that I
can think of running quarterbacks from from America

1563
01:46:45.439 --> 01:46:49.560
who would come up here. So
I'm really excited to see how it works

1564
01:46:49.560 --> 01:46:54.640
with Schiltz and then how it works
with Schiltz once defensive coordinators get a look

1565
01:46:54.680 --> 01:46:58.439
at him and what Hamilton does with
him, because it's a it's a different

1566
01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:00.960
skill set than bo does. So
it'll take Tommy Condell, you know,

1567
01:47:01.079 --> 01:47:05.840
he'll have to change some stuff up. But I'm really I'm honestly, I'm

1568
01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:10.199
holding out a lot of hope for
Matthew Schiltz because I think there's I think

1569
01:47:10.199 --> 01:47:13.119
there's something there and it could be
harnessed, So it could be. This

1570
01:47:13.159 --> 01:47:15.479
could be for as long as Bow's
out. This could be a positive move

1571
01:47:15.520 --> 01:47:18.199
for the Hamilton Tiger Cats. Well, that's the thing is, you know

1572
01:47:18.239 --> 01:47:21.119
what if Matthew Schiltz comes in,
then just lights the world on fire,

1573
01:47:21.159 --> 01:47:25.000
and then you're like, oh,
you know what do we I mean I

1574
01:47:25.439 --> 01:47:29.600
was looking when they said the three
down had the injury report, like Bo's

1575
01:47:29.600 --> 01:47:31.039
getting a ton of money. I
mean, it's just crazy to think,

1576
01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:34.800
like you have all this tied up
in him and to not to still not

1577
01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:39.119
be performing well coming in you know
how it's been the first couple weeks.

1578
01:47:39.439 --> 01:47:43.720
Yeah, it's I think of him
as the perennial bounce back guy, or

1579
01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:46.560
we'll give him credit for bounce back
because Bo hasn't been bow since twenty eighteen,

1580
01:47:47.279 --> 01:47:53.720
so nineteen. I think the broken
leg was in nineteen shoulder twenty one,

1581
01:47:53.960 --> 01:47:57.359
twenty two. I went into this
season thinking, oh, Hamilton's gonna

1582
01:47:57.359 --> 01:48:00.720
be pretty good because there's a chance
that Bo gets back to it and then

1583
01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:05.199
I whatever whatever's going on, if
it's if it's the shoulder, if it's

1584
01:48:05.279 --> 01:48:10.319
if it's something else, it just
it hasn't been there through two games so

1585
01:48:10.359 --> 01:48:13.800
far, and it's it's going to
be a while now with the injury.

1586
01:48:13.920 --> 01:48:17.680
So yeah, but I just feel
like he's when guys who have hit those

1587
01:48:17.760 --> 01:48:21.680
heights right, MLP level, Great
Cup, MVP level. I always feel

1588
01:48:21.720 --> 01:48:27.279
like, okay, they can get
back there, barring something having changed dramatically.

1589
01:48:27.520 --> 01:48:30.640
When Calars was at his lowest point, I in my heart knew Calars

1590
01:48:30.880 --> 01:48:35.680
could be backrop again because I'd seen
him in fifteen be phenomenal, phenomenal,

1591
01:48:36.039 --> 01:48:39.600
So I always believed in that,
and part of me is still stuck with

1592
01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:43.359
that with Bo. But then you
go, there's there's there's some injury things

1593
01:48:43.399 --> 01:48:47.039
that are that are affecting him.
I feel like, whether it hurts at

1594
01:48:47.079 --> 01:48:50.720
the moment, it's it just looks
like it's really it's affecting the way he's

1595
01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:57.119
able to play. How impressive was
Chad Kelly here with the Argonauts as sway

1596
01:48:57.239 --> 01:49:00.600
Kelly is and how everyone gets to
call him, I think he was fine.

1597
01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:03.640
Like that first quarter I thought was
okay, well look at this happen,

1598
01:49:03.960 --> 01:49:08.319
and he scores three touchdowns, but
two were quarterback sneaks, so I

1599
01:49:08.399 --> 01:49:12.920
kind of don't care about those.
The scramble was fantastic right where it was

1600
01:49:12.960 --> 01:49:15.760
it Ja Garrett Davis. He kind
of faked out and gets into the end

1601
01:49:15.840 --> 01:49:18.119
zone and went, okay, this
looks this looks fine. The numbers look

1602
01:49:18.319 --> 01:49:23.720
fine from week number one, and
they want at home. So I really

1603
01:49:23.800 --> 01:49:29.039
want Chad Kelly to be good because
we're not overwhelmed with great quarterbacks and the

1604
01:49:29.159 --> 01:49:32.359
CFL right now. So I would
love it if he was eighty percent of

1605
01:49:32.439 --> 01:49:36.680
Nathan Rourke. That'd be phenomenal for
the CFL. At week one was fine.

1606
01:49:36.880 --> 01:49:43.279
I think I'm I'm gonna want to
see more go on when the receiving

1607
01:49:43.319 --> 01:49:45.199
course fully healthy, we'll get a
chance to see more. But yeah,

1608
01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:48.920
to me, it was I just
know what I've seen, and I'm like,

1609
01:49:49.039 --> 01:49:51.359
yeah, okay, that's that's good. Let's let's build from there.

1610
01:49:51.399 --> 01:49:56.960
And Toronto may may have something,
but I can't be one hundred percent sure.

1611
01:49:58.279 --> 01:50:01.800
Is that the easiest money in the
world. Bet Toronto over Edmonton this

1612
01:50:01.880 --> 01:50:10.239
weekend? I just Edmonton's gotta figure
something out, right, Um, yeah,

1613
01:50:10.279 --> 01:50:14.039
it's it's gotta be what the line
must be like seven or seven a

1614
01:50:14.079 --> 01:50:18.560
half. It's but pushing pushing out. Amilton's gotta find some points because somebody,

1615
01:50:18.640 --> 01:50:23.279
someone's getting fired, losing their job, and if if they don't start

1616
01:50:23.319 --> 01:50:26.880
writing this thing right, they're back
at home where they haven't won since eighteen

1617
01:50:27.039 --> 01:50:29.680
fifty six. I think it is
the actual I don't know, it's been

1618
01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:32.960
a while, but I really would
like Edmonton to be good because the league's

1619
01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:36.720
the league's more fun. If Chris
Jones led teams are good, and if

1620
01:50:36.760 --> 01:50:42.800
Gena Lewis is clowning defensive backs and
if if you know, there'd be a

1621
01:50:42.800 --> 01:50:45.880
lot of swag in that defense.
If they were up fifteen late in the

1622
01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:48.640
game and Luchez Purifoy got a pass
knockdown, there'd be a lot of swag

1623
01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:51.000
in that and to me, that
makes the game a lot more fun.

1624
01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:55.439
Last couple of questions here, we'll
get you out of here. I appreciate

1625
01:50:55.479 --> 01:50:57.800
your time all the way. You
know, got the bye week, and

1626
01:50:57.920 --> 01:51:00.159
you know mozz only I guess when
he comes back. They've looked terrible with

1627
01:51:00.319 --> 01:51:02.640
I mean, they've just I don't
know. If Missoli comes in there and

1628
01:51:02.720 --> 01:51:05.239
kind of rebounds that, what have
you made him? Out the way here?

1629
01:51:06.199 --> 01:51:12.079
I'm surprised that it has gone this
way through two games and Massoli,

1630
01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:14.960
here's a lot of problems. When
they come back, you know, here's

1631
01:51:14.960 --> 01:51:17.359
your defined number one quarterback and let's
go. We can do some stuff.

1632
01:51:18.680 --> 01:51:23.680
I think in the current ecosystem or
the current grouping of Canadian quarterbacks. I

1633
01:51:23.760 --> 01:51:27.680
end up ranking Massoli quite high.
But then to me, he's a guy

1634
01:51:27.720 --> 01:51:30.000
with a very with a high ceiling
and a low floor because he can he

1635
01:51:30.039 --> 01:51:33.520
can take the twenty one Great Cup, come into that game in relief when

1636
01:51:33.720 --> 01:51:39.399
Dane Evans gets hurt, and take
Winnipeg to overtime, the last drive to

1637
01:51:39.479 --> 01:51:44.479
force overtime into the win in that
game. Incredible, Like Massoli was awesome

1638
01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:47.600
in that game, and he'd been
pulled in the East Final the game before

1639
01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:53.119
you go. Okay, So high
ceiling and low floor as well. But

1640
01:51:53.600 --> 01:51:56.199
that's I mean, I had preseason
wagers that he was going to lead the

1641
01:51:56.279 --> 01:51:59.439
league in passing. I think he's
in that offense is going to fire up

1642
01:51:59.439 --> 01:52:04.079
some numbers when it gets going.
I'm I'm surprised because I remember Nick Arbuckle's

1643
01:52:04.159 --> 01:52:09.399
first start was a game Calgary against
sask in my first year there, and

1644
01:52:09.560 --> 01:52:14.039
Arbuckle looked fantastic. So for him
to transition from that, it's been a

1645
01:52:14.039 --> 01:52:17.119
long road from nineteen to twenty twenty
three, with a lot of stops along

1646
01:52:17.159 --> 01:52:21.000
the way. It just hasn't come
for him the way Honestly, I thought

1647
01:52:21.039 --> 01:52:24.279
it would that if they want to
go to Tyree Adams. I get it,

1648
01:52:24.359 --> 01:52:29.359
Like I totally understand, but yeah, you have to be you have

1649
01:52:29.399 --> 01:52:32.840
to believe that Massoli can cure a
lot of what ails them, but they're

1650
01:52:32.880 --> 01:52:38.039
not without problems in other spots as
well. Yeah, Arbuckle, I just

1651
01:52:38.279 --> 01:52:41.439
he's kind of duty at this point. I mean, he's just not I

1652
01:52:41.439 --> 01:52:44.199
feel bad, and he really is
trying to play his hard out there,

1653
01:52:44.199 --> 01:52:45.680
you know, trying to make moves, but it's just not working out like

1654
01:52:46.079 --> 01:52:47.920
that. Because the last team I
want to come, want to hit on

1655
01:52:47.920 --> 01:52:51.520
Calgary. You know they're win here. Not an impressive game, you know

1656
01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:56.720
the Calgary Ottawa Thursday night Fest?
Was it last weekend or last week So

1657
01:52:57.279 --> 01:52:59.800
Calgary with Mayor and all of that, Like are they are? They re

1658
01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:04.920
downding here? What do you make
of them? I'm I there's quarterbacks.

1659
01:53:04.960 --> 01:53:08.720
I'm in on and I'll be in
on forever. There's quarterbacks we've talked about.

1660
01:53:08.760 --> 01:53:13.000
I'm out on and I'll be out
on forever. Jake Mayer's I don't

1661
01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:15.279
know, it's kind of Jake Mayor
and that offense. I'm kind of sliding

1662
01:53:15.279 --> 01:53:20.479
toward out on because I just I
find Calgary really at least it's painful to

1663
01:53:20.479 --> 01:53:25.720
watch. Like, okay, a
five yard stick route, let's bubble screening

1664
01:53:25.800 --> 01:53:29.560
out to this side stick route.
It's the hitch screen. Oh, somebody

1665
01:53:29.600 --> 01:53:32.319
throw the ball down the field to
Maleek Henry. Someone fires some balls down

1666
01:53:32.359 --> 01:53:34.960
that trail of dukes. Looks like
he's tall. Hammers something down field.

1667
01:53:35.039 --> 01:53:40.920
Get some deep crossers, give me
something to grab onto instead of okay,

1668
01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:44.920
over here, it's like it's like
watching just a chess match, but not

1669
01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:48.399
that not that entertaining queen's gambit type
chest, but like an actual chess match

1670
01:53:48.399 --> 01:53:55.560
where it's thirty minutes between moves and
Spasky just go. It's I find it

1671
01:53:55.640 --> 01:53:58.800
really rough to watch. It's the
shortest passing offense in the CFL, and

1672
01:53:58.840 --> 01:54:02.399
it just I don't know. And
this is part of what I don't know

1673
01:54:02.600 --> 01:54:06.159
is bo loved to move the ball
down the field in Calgary, and Jake

1674
01:54:06.479 --> 01:54:10.359
does. When he first came in, was this We kind of felt like

1675
01:54:10.359 --> 01:54:12.760
he was this gun slinger. Right, Oh, he got picked off.

1676
01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:15.159
He doesn't care. He's hammered it
downfield, deep middle again, let's go

1677
01:54:15.479 --> 01:54:20.159
gunslinger. And this is just the
opposite of gunslinger. This is Trevor Harris

1678
01:54:20.199 --> 01:54:25.640
on you know, like four downers
before the game, right, Let's okay,

1679
01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:29.479
we're controlled and we're getting it out
super slow. So I don't know

1680
01:54:30.319 --> 01:54:32.199
how. I don't know how that's
all going to play out. And I

1681
01:54:32.199 --> 01:54:34.800
don't know if they do that because
they believe it's the best way to go,

1682
01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:40.199
or they believe that's what Jake Mayor
can can offer them. So I'm

1683
01:54:40.239 --> 01:54:45.399
I'm on the continuum. I'm leaning
towards howd on Mayor, but he is

1684
01:54:45.439 --> 01:54:49.159
still accurate with the high completion percentage, which is about to expected. So

1685
01:54:50.760 --> 01:54:57.119
yeah, I don't know. And
Calgary's offseason was weird and that twenty something

1686
01:54:57.159 --> 01:55:00.520
players got away, like not thirty
year olds, twenty somethings who were super

1687
01:55:00.600 --> 01:55:05.279
valuable got away in free agency.
So what's what's happening behind that. I

1688
01:55:05.319 --> 01:55:10.319
have a lot of questions about Calgary
and they yeah one and one, and

1689
01:55:10.359 --> 01:55:14.560
they were not super impressive to me
in either game. So I'm waiting to

1690
01:55:14.600 --> 01:55:16.520
see, you know, week three
and maybe through week six will have a

1691
01:55:16.520 --> 01:55:19.560
better idea at least I will.
Well, yeah, that's like you know

1692
01:55:19.680 --> 01:55:23.960
BC here and two and though,
but you know, stamps didn't look good

1693
01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:27.520
week one and then Elx we've talked
about it nausea him, so we'll see.

1694
01:55:27.560 --> 01:55:29.000
But yeah, I like may Or. I don't know if it's like

1695
01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:31.840
too much pressure now and you know, the safety blankets gone with bo and

1696
01:55:31.840 --> 01:55:35.119
it's kind of all your thing.
And he he seemed was it against was

1697
01:55:35.119 --> 01:55:39.239
it far Han? Was he interviewing
them on the sidelines like halftime he was

1698
01:55:39.319 --> 01:55:41.439
very rude to far Hands, like, well, we gotta figure this out.

1699
01:55:41.520 --> 01:55:43.680
I don't you know, don't don't
be rude to far Han there.

1700
01:55:43.800 --> 01:55:46.760
So, Derek, I appreciate it. I wish you bad luck when the

1701
01:55:46.760 --> 01:55:50.960
Blue Bombers tomorrow, I guess the
VC Lions, But otherwise I really appreciate

1702
01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:54.079
it. In your busy schedule and
everything, so it means a lot you're

1703
01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:56.119
taking the time to come on now. I appreciate you having me. I

1704
01:55:56.159 --> 01:55:58.760
love talking about the CFL, so
I appreciate that that you do too.

1705
01:55:59.199 --> 01:56:05.680
Awesome. Thanks a huge, special
thanks to all of our guests for coming

1706
01:56:05.720 --> 01:56:09.520
on this week. Like I said, Derek Taylor, voice of the Blue

1707
01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:12.600
Bombers, taking time out busy week
and getting ready to call that game.

1708
01:56:12.880 --> 01:56:15.520
I really appreciate him making the time
in his schedule, Pat Rafino coming on

1709
01:56:15.680 --> 01:56:19.600
earlier in the week to accommodate my
work schedule. Certainly appreciate all the work

1710
01:56:19.640 --> 01:56:24.640
that Pat has done all season with
his USFL recaps and doing our show and

1711
01:56:24.720 --> 01:56:27.319
doing the stuff for you know,
Mark over at the Hub and everything else,

1712
01:56:27.479 --> 01:56:30.239
and then putting together the all USFL
list. I thought that was really

1713
01:56:30.279 --> 01:56:32.760
cool that Pat felt inspired to do
that, and I think that that's great

1714
01:56:32.760 --> 01:56:35.439
to kind of give a spotlight to
a lot of these players that maybe wouldn't

1715
01:56:35.439 --> 01:56:40.720
get the recognition otherwise. In the
huge special thanks to Rick Saratella coming on

1716
01:56:41.159 --> 01:56:44.880
Big Football News with Rick with the
IFA and everything going on with that.

1717
01:56:45.239 --> 01:56:48.319
I told Rick offline, I am
a welcome vessel for anything that Rick wants

1718
01:56:48.319 --> 01:56:50.680
to talk about. In that way, I appreciate him being a friend of

1719
01:56:50.720 --> 01:56:55.239
the show and the connections and knowledge
that he has. So good luck to

1720
01:56:55.319 --> 01:56:59.079
Rick and everyone over with the international
football lines should be exciting. That will

1721
01:56:59.079 --> 01:57:00.680
do it for me today. Hope
you guys enjoyed the episode that like you

1722
01:57:00.760 --> 01:57:03.760
subscribe, like you say, give
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1723
01:57:03.880 --> 01:57:09.159
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