WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:07.679 Noise Junkies. It's a music podcast, baby, covering every musical genre. 2 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:11.359 What we got that the others don't. I'll tell you we got Mondo, 3 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:16.519 Heathers, Heather Drained, nor Junky, we got wolf and raisins hp n 4 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:22.879 Junky, we got dark destinations, Father alone n and we got you, 5 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:27.519 we got music and we got you made it and you getting a weird in 6 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:54.439 way media noise Junkies weird. We do a little mate light and shot realism, 7 00:00:54.759 --> 00:01:00.799 surrealism, Impressionism, and a story and interesting behind wall a Ford unship 8 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:06.959 towards the bizarre. And this place is nothing if it isn't bizarre. There's 9 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:11.719 no admission, no requirement of membership, only a strong of the plighting, 10 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.519 belief in the dark at the top of the stairs or things that go bump 11 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:19.760 in the night. The name of this place you told commit your actually defentically 12 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:29.239 out of the rank, just a night got Welcome back, art lovers to 13 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:34.920 Midnight Viewing the Night Gallery podcast, where we discuss what was initially Rod Serlings 14 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:38.760 follow up to the twilight Zone Night Gallery. I'm Father Malone and with me 15 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:45.200 here in the gallery are On Sigala, Stephen Sigal podcasts Chris Stashier. If 16 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:47.840 you don't know me now, you'll know me as the Worm by the end 17 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:52.879 of this episode and from the Cold Jack Tapes, mister Mike White, why 18 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.000 has no one offered me money to stay in a haunted house? We're here 19 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:00.120 at the Gallery are discussing season two, episode six. This aired on October 20 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:05.439 twenty seventh, nineteen seventy one, making it their Halloween special. It's an 21 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:09.240 all access Halloween special. That's access powers. The Cherry's and the Eye Ties 22 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:15.360 a full display here. They appear separately in our two segments only two, 23 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:21.000 hearkening back to a more innocent and simple time at the Night Gallery. Those 24 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:24.919 segments are a Question of Fear and the Devil is Not Mocked Painting Number one 25 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:30.159 about a man who spends a night in a haunted house. An unbeliever if 26 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:37.240 you will, who by Dunn believes The name of the painting is a question 27 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:40.919 of fear. The name of this place is the Night Gallery. Now. 28 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:45.439 A Question of Fear was written by Theodore J. Flicker, based on a 29 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:50.879 short story by Brian Lewis and directed by Jack Laird. Stars Leslie Nielsen, 30 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:55.120 Richard Vickers and Creepshow and Fritz Weaver, Extra Stanley and Creepshow. That's right, 31 00:02:55.159 --> 00:03:00.759 it's a retroactive Creepshow reunion, although they actually to act with each other 32 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:02.639 here, which is different than a creep show. It also starts Jack Bannon 33 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:12.240 and Ivan Bonar and special appearance by Castle Thunder. This is a tale of 34 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:16.479 courage in the face of supernatural terror when Leslie Nielsen's mercenary Malloy accepts a bet 35 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:21.000 to spend a night in a haunted house with from Fritz Weaver's doctor Macchi, 36 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:24.159 who may have an ulterior motive in this wager. What do you think of 37 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:29.520 this one? Mike went on for a little too long, But I mean, 38 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:31.599 it was so nice to see Leslie Nielsen, especially you know, we've 39 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:35.919 been talking a lot about him with the police squad, but it was great 40 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:39.879 seeing him here with the I Patch for no good reason. And yeah, 41 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:45.039 Fritz Weaver, he's so awesome. I really like that guy a lot. 42 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:47.319 So I had a good time, even though I think this went on for 43 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:51.280 a little too long. How about you, Chris So to say, how 44 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.280 much more do we need to see of Leslie? To Nielson at this point, 45 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:58.719 I'm a little Leslie Nielsen nowt good lord. I mean it's it's it's 46 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:01.400 funny. You know, it wasn't intentional the timing here, but we have 47 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:05.319 been, you know, revisiting police Squad and the Naked Gun and airplane, 48 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:11.199 so to see Leslie Nielsen in something else, it's kind of hard to take 49 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:15.280 him seriously. Unfortunately, I just have a hard time because again, like 50 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:18.480 he's in the in the best police Squad and naked gun stuff, he's playing 51 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:21.560 it straight. So here he's playing it straight and everything else is straight as 52 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:26.199 well or as straight as it can get with night Gallery. But I think 53 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:31.720 overall it's interesting. I think the twist is pretty obvious, but also at 54 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:35.399 the same time, like I don't know, it's a it's an it's an 55 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:44.240 interesting story that I'm sure Teddy j Flicker of Barney Miller fame, he landed 56 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:47.720 it rather well. What about you, father Malone. I love this one. 57 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:53.680 I was on board, like the whole thing everything, And you know, 58 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:59.720 the thing about Leslie Nielsen is I remember him mainly as a dramatic actor. 59 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:03.000 So when he'd made the switch to police school for first obviously airplane and 60 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.600 then police Squad and then Naked Gun, like, to me, the joke 61 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:11.720 was always how straight he was playing it. He eventually kind of turned into 62 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:15.319 a clown. And he is a very funny comedic actor, no question about 63 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:19.360 it, But like the early funny movies he was in were only funny because 64 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:23.639 of how dramatic he was playing it. So every time I get to see 65 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:27.399 Leslie Nielson actually playing a dramatic role, I'm happy. My favorite role of 66 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.240 his all time is a creep show as Richard Vickers. He's one of my 67 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.360 favorite villains of all time. He's so gleeful and wonderful in that, and 68 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:38.000 so I was excited to see a different kind of villain from him here, 69 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:42.800 and I thought, I thought he nailed it. That type of character that 70 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:46.040 sort of overly proud of what an asshole he is and everyone else is a 71 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:50.839 coward and beneath him like that kind of masculinity makes me want to switch pronouns 72 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:56.519 man like it's and he does it so well. I do wonder about that, 73 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:59.160 I patch, because you know, they kept giving us lots of close 74 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:03.040 ups where he clear you could see his eye in there. That was that 75 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:08.639 was a little bit of a failing also, you know, just character wise, 76 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:12.120 at the beginning, he mentions that he killed six men for desertion. 77 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:15.920 I'd say that that's only what he told his superiors. I think this is 78 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:20.279 just a kill crazy madman. And yeah, yeah, he was like, 79 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:26.519 oh I wish I was in my lie. Yeah, yeah, right exactly. 80 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:29.839 Like, first of all, what is he doing at that club at 81 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:33.199 the beginning? Anyway, he's the most ornery guy, Like he's running the 82 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.839 pool table. I'm sure everyone at that club walks in. It's just like, 83 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:40.759 oh my god, Malloy's here. Let's just go back to the when 84 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.759 you mentioned the twist, Chris, are we talking about the fact that there 85 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:47.120 was no thing in the basement? Is that the twin? That's the twist, 86 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:49.279 at least in my mind? Well, I guess there's two twists, 87 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:53.199 right, Yeah, there's two twists for me anyway. Yeah, and I 88 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:57.759 saw the you know, it wasn't a real thing at all coming, but 89 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:03.759 I certainly didn't expect this unted house Pepper's ghost kind of dark ride that the 90 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:11.800 episode began as to suddenly turn into a body horror nightmare from nineteen seventy one. 91 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.079 Holy god, I didn't remember this episode at all. I'm glad I 92 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:20.720 didn't, because I got way into it. But I like that whole monologue 93 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:25.480 at the end with Fritzweeber just going on and on and on and is really 94 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:31.519 horrifying. Yeah, how gleeful he is and how terrible he is going to 95 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:35.480 make Leslie Nielsen feel like it is. It is a true like he is 96 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:44.920 filled with glee. So it's it's interesting that there is no real thing going 97 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:48.079 on, but it also work. I think it makes the episode segment work 98 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:51.600 even better that there is kind of a double twist to it. Yeah, 99 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:58.600 and just that he pretty much drives Leslie Nielsen to kill himself spoilers, But 100 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:01.720 I love that, really love that. I would have liked have seen the 101 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.279 worm, but like I think we all know that, like whatever that would 102 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:09.160 have been actually would not have looked very good. So probably for the best 103 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.800 that we didn't see it. Yeah, I was like, oh boy, 104 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:15.920 are they gonna show a big worm with a human face, like how they 105 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:22.480 showed a big spider last time? Yes, it worked in Freaked, right, 106 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.120 Yeah, it worked in Freaked twenty years later with it right well exactly 107 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:31.279 the prosthetic artistry going on instead of the cobble together. We'd have to get 108 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:35.440 this shot by noon of mentality over at the night Gallery. I did kind 109 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.240 of wonder why, First of all, did you did you notice what this 110 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:43.919 mercenary, this career soldier, what he thinks belongs in a survival pack. 111 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:48.919 He had cigarettes, a coffee thermist, extra ammunition, a flashlight, and 112 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.480 a bigger flashlight. Oh yeah, that's it. I mean, I know 113 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:58.240 he wasn't expecting trouble because he didn't believe in ghosts. Only cowards do. 114 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.519 But like, certainly, I don't know, it just seemed like an odd 115 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:07.200 assortment. I think Leslie Nielsen would get along really well with that character that 116 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:11.440 Tony Montagna plays in that episode of twilight Zone nineteen eighty five. If you 117 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:18.600 guys remember that in the Bunker was it? What was it? Joe Montaigna, 118 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.320 Na Joe Montagna. But he these two dudes would get along, Like 119 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:28.480 I like that they in these shows kind of take to task being a jingoistic 120 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:33.879 patriot dickhead. Like I appreciate that that these dudes get their come up ins 121 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:39.559 in both segments frankly and skillfully. So I mean, I'm glad Theodore Flicker 122 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:43.200 is the one adapting this and not Rod sterling Um because because it has all 123 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:48.080 the hallmarks of something sterling would have been drawn to, which is the haunted 124 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.240 house sort of trope, and you know, and the rich and the play 125 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:52.960 anyway, you know, you know my things? Did you did either of 126 00:09:54.039 --> 00:10:00.039 you happen to read the short story did not? By mister Brian Lewis I 127 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:07.080 did. It is remarkably similar except several small differences. Malloy is a nearly 128 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:13.799 homeless alcoholic because he has no more wars to fight, and he's just home. 129 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:16.240 He doesn't know how to be a human anymore. He's actually painted as 130 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:20.120 the hero, like we follow it from his point of view. When two 131 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:24.240 it's like trading places like these two men in a limo are like, come 132 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:26.559 with us, we've got to We'll give you some money if you can. 133 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:30.679 We hear you're a soldier and you can, you know, make it through 134 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:33.559 the if you don't be scared. It isn't a haunted house situation. They 135 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:39.120 just say you need to survive the night on this compound, right, So 136 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:45.559 he goes onto the compound and is immediately attacked by three dogs, who he 137 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:48.720 kills with a gun that they've given him, and then discovers afterwards that the 138 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.960 dogs have no teeth, that they were just there to scare him, even 139 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.360 though he killed them. Okay, So then he gets into the house and 140 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.960 goes into the basement where the door bolts behind him, and he sees that 141 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.120 there's a gorilla in the room and he still has his pistol, and the 142 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:09.080 gorilla in the darkness is shambling around and screaming at him, and then starts 143 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.919 to come for him, and he fires the gun a bunch of times, 144 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.120 and the gorilla just doesn't feel anything and eventually tires of the guy and goes 145 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.399 back into the corner. The lights common, and he realizes there's this plexiglass 146 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.600 between him and the gorilla, so he's getting the idea, oh, they're 147 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.360 just trying to scare me to death, right, and then goes to sleep. 148 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:28.399 No, they do the pendulum thing to him, but he just falls 149 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.799 asleep, wakes up the next day, and then the rest plays exactly like 150 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:37.159 the episode in higher speech that Fritz Weaver gives like word for word, it's 151 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:39.919 there. Either one would work, And I guess it's better that they went 152 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.799 with Haunted House because I thought the Haunted House stuff is actually really good here, 153 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.200 and there was no way they were going to have three dogs with no 154 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:50.600 teeth attacking him on a compound. Anyway, like I said, better than 155 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:52.840 the Flicker A flicker did it and put it into this Haunted House because some 156 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.519 of it, Like I said, some of the Haunted House effects were really 157 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:01.039 great. Actually, that weird fractal kind of post that attacks him while he's 158 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.919 in the basement, I thought that was actually genuinely scary. Yeah, and 159 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:09.279 I like the solarized sort of yellow ghost that is stalking him around for a 160 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:13.480 little bit. Like all that was fun, like you know, this is 161 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:16.320 again TV nineteen seventy one. Some of the effects weren't great for some reason. 162 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.960 They cut to an exterior of the house and there was a matt shot 163 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:24.480 of a bat flying by for no reason, like, oh yeah, by 164 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:28.879 the way, that was just the Psycho House, Like what Yeah, I 165 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:33.960 thought that looked familiar. Yeah, boy didn't it because it got moved a 166 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.159 few times, so like that's why the surroundings looked a bit different. But 167 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:41.320 it was obviously the Psycho House. Yeah. When I realized it was universal 168 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.559 as well, I was like, oh, okay, this kind of makes 169 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:50.000 sense. Yeah, why did he touch every drop of blood anyone? He 170 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:54.000 did everything but tasted Yeah, I do have to ask though, like if 171 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.080 if either of you were in the scenario that Leslie Nelson has put in, 172 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:01.559 you don't you don't kill yourself that quickly, right, Like that is the 173 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.919 one thing here where it's like he's like, you're Fritz Weaver is really banking 174 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:09.919 on Leslie Nielsen just like all right, I could not like I'm he's right, 175 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:13.879 no way, he's making this up. Like what should have happened is 176 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.720 he should have been drugged. Again he said, like, oh, you 177 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:18.799 eat the food. It's not poisoned at all. It should have been drugged. 178 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:22.360 And so when he's giving him the spiel about what's happening, like see 179 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.799 that puncture mark on your on your arm, like your muscle should start to 180 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:28.679 be feeling really tight right now, and like whatever drug he gave him like 181 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:33.720 started to make him feel that, Like that would kill myself, Like oh 182 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:35.679 god, I'm going to turn into a fucking worm. But like it was 183 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:39.720 set up like in a few days, you'll start to chick. I would 184 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:41.720 wait a few days. Any of us would wait a few days. I 185 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.039 don't care what kind of hand before. Yeah, yeah, if anything, 186 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:50.440 I would have given him like a slow acting poison or something something slow acting, 187 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:52.919 so that over those next few days something goes on with them or to 188 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:56.919 your point, like oh, you're starting to feel it right now. I 189 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:58.799 mean, there's a lot to be said for a psycho semantic, but really 190 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:03.200 you need to be able to feel something, and that, for me is 191 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.399 the issue. It's just like it feels a little like a little bit of 192 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:09.600 a contrivance that all he did was just be like, this is what's going 193 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:11.440 to happen, and then he says the thing about in a couple of days. 194 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:13.600 I was like, wait a second, in a couple of days, 195 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:18.879 like yeah, you could even walk out of here, Like what the fuck? 196 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.440 I mean? Well, yeah, like they said, I mean like 197 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:26.519 what like six months later, Like what the slow acting? Good lord? 198 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.120 This isn't a really elaborate plan, just too. If it was to just 199 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.360 introduce the serum, it would be kind of outlandish, but I guess it 200 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.360 had. Did it need to be that outlandish? I don't. Couldn't you 201 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:41.360 just locked him in a room and like you hit him over the head and 202 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:43.399 he wakes up and you go, this is what happened he last night? 203 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:48.320 Like struck the bed that has metal arms that will fold and hold you while 204 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:52.720 the pendulum comes down and swings like a guillotine. By the way, in 205 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:58.279 that guillotine scene where he actually experiences fear while we're still thinking that's what this 206 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.120 entire episode is about, like that he's finally been broken when he realizes he's 207 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:05.120 not going to die and he starts boasting. I wanted, with all my 208 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:09.440 hopes and wishes for the guillotine to just drop down in behead him once he 209 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.519 started, Oh I'm still here. You have to do bother than that cut 210 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:18.279 That would have been great. I can hold my breath for a long time. 211 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.360 Oh, I do have one other thing. I thought it was really 212 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.639 well shot. They even had a day for night thing that did not bother 213 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:31.519 me at all, Like I enjoyed it. But there's an unforgivable moment where 214 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:35.639 Leslie Nelson goes to the bedroom and drops down to the floor to look under 215 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:39.159 the bed and the camera lowers down with him, which would be a beautiful 216 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:43.840 shot if it wasn't in the hand of like a palsy nightmare. It was 217 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:50.159 just like with all the cuts to like bats and exteriors and paintings and stuff 218 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.840 like, couldn't they have just cut to the shot of him on the floor. 219 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:56.919 It was right. It didn't seem like we're young and innovative filmmakers. 220 00:15:56.919 --> 00:16:02.720 It feel like, well, who cares? But I think I think overall, 221 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:04.960 for kind of what this was and the story that it was telling, 222 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:10.919 it is pretty good. Right. Yeah, I never didn't enjoy myself watching 223 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:12.840 the episode. I'm nitpicking because I have to, but like, right, 224 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:17.799 and even with the twist at the end, like being kind of hinky, 225 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:19.759 like I think it's I think it's still by the end of it, I 226 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:23.440 was like, this was a full, fully thought out story with a great 227 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:26.200 ending that I think is pretty impactful, even if it is kind of a 228 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:32.279 little wonky, Like Fritz Weaver is enjoying himself throughout, that's for sure, 229 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:36.279 and his character is relishing that moment at the end that he gets over Leslie 230 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.960 Nielsen and I don't know, this has been one of the more successful segments 231 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:44.639 of the show so far for me at least agreed. Also, Leslie Nielson 232 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:48.480 had one really nice character moment, which I'm assuming was him when he first 233 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.919 is exploring the haunted house. He walks past the chandelier and he reaches over 234 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:56.000 and taps it, which is what you do when you're trying to see if 235 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:59.120 it's actually crystal or not. And it had no bearing on anything else. 236 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:00.960 But I really liked that he did it all right, before we get to 237 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.519 our final segment, I have been all this season attempting to point a spotlight 238 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:08.559 or an accent light, that's what they're called to museums on some of the 239 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:12.759 note or less, he's celebrated members of the Night Gallery family in front of 240 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:17.480 and behind the camera. In this case, I want to mention a fellow 241 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:21.839 by the name of Wayne Fitzgerald. Wayne was born in la in nineteen thirty 242 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:25.759 died in twenty nineteen at the age of eighty nine, and mister Fitzgerald is 243 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:30.279 the gentleman responsible for Night Galleries title sequence you see every week, which scared 244 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.680 the hell out of me when I was a kid, and really is as 245 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:38.000 essential to the show as anything else as far as I'm concerned. So obviously 246 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:44.160 he's a really good TV title guy, right, yes, but so goddamn 247 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:47.559 much more all right. This man gone out of the Navy, where he 248 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:51.599 was on a submarine during the Korean War and started his career making titles for 249 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:56.200 little tiny flicks like Touch of Evil, The Fly Pillow Talk, Homicidal, 250 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:00.119 the Music Man. This man has four hundred and fifty eight credits. In 251 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:06.319 nineteen eight, four of the five Best Picture nominees had titles designed by him. 252 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:08.279 In the Heat of the Night, The Graduate, Guess Who's Coming to 253 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:12.920 Dinner? And Bonnie and Clyde. He did all of copolist titles. Apocalypse. 254 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:19.720 Now that's him. Just an incredible career. And his son Eric continued, 255 00:18:19.759 --> 00:18:25.039 the business has done every Walter Hill title sequence since Johnny Handsome. Anyway, 256 00:18:25.160 --> 00:18:27.240 just wanted to give a shout out to one of our one of our 257 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:32.440 night gallery people that probably nobody knows his name, but they ought to because 258 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:36.720 he's kind of a giant in his field. Title sequences and posters. Man, 259 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:41.000 that's a lost art. It really is such a like, you know, 260 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.960 I didn't grow up at a time when Drew Struson was really at his 261 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:47.839 height, but I'm glad that I still got to see some of those Drew 262 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.799 strus And posters in the wild for real, because that's a lost art, 263 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:55.519 just like title sequences. Yeah, I think strus and stuff like you know, 264 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:57.880 got overly sort of copied, but you know, by the by the 265 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:03.000 late nineties probably but like at the time things were gorgeous. They're still gorgeous 266 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:07.680 obviously, and yeah, what an iconic beyond iconic? Yeah, actual paintings, 267 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:11.920 actual thought, like going into what you want to feature about this film 268 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:18.319 other than let's put four faces slatting together. Four faces, there we go, 269 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:21.480 that's what you And then like a blue light in the center, yeah, 270 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:26.599 right, or a big head or them or them facing away looking over 271 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.559 their shoulder, or my favorite between the leg shot. Oh yeah, that 272 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:36.680 one too lost art. Indeed, all right, now, our final segment 273 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:41.799 here is called The Devil is not Mocked. Oscrew Wild said something to the 274 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:45.279 effect that if there were not a devil, we'd very likely invent him. 275 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:51.359 He serves many a purpose, and this grim visaged character here is proof of 276 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:56.480 that. Rather bitter pudding, a story that tells what happens when evil collides 277 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:03.599 with the evil. The painting is called The Devil is written by Gen Kearney, 278 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:07.359 Oh Boy, based on the short story by Manly Wade Wellman, and 279 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:12.200 then directed by Gene Karney, starring Francis Letterer, Helmet Dantine, Martin Coslick 280 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:17.559 and single classic Wolf, Ladies and Gentlemen. I actually I'll just do it 281 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:19.559 right here at the top. If you have not seen this episode, this 282 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:36.119 is what you were hearing behind people talking like the hip hop airhorn, but 283 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:41.519 a fucking werewolf instead. Yes, over and over, layer up. Can 284 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:52.039 you listen to these where the children of the nineties? What beats they drop? 285 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.480 Guys? Remember a song called nineteen and anti Vietnam song from nineteen oh 286 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:00.680 no, no, no, no, nineteen nineteen. Yeah, single classic 287 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:03.200 wolf version. That's what we got here in The Devil is Not Mocked. 288 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:07.519 The story is a grandfather telling his grandson about what he did during the war. 289 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:15.119 It's basically a blackout sketch stretched out to an interminable level. What do 290 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:19.039 you think of this one, Chris? I love anytime we get to see 291 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:26.720 Dracula doing really weird things like killing Nazis, because that's a fun concept that 292 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:30.720 you know, has some legs to it. Apparently not here though, like 293 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.200 you said, I mean, it's a Playboys. It's a Playboy one panel 294 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:37.720 really like or like it's like you know what it is. It's a mad 295 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:41.400 magazine like four or five panel sketch, Like it's a cracked magazine from the 296 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:45.279 seventies thing, Like, I don't know, it's fun for what it is, 297 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.160 but why, I mean, I guess you can't give a question to 298 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:52.880 Fear anymore time, and like what do you do otherwise, Like have somebody 299 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.079 come up with two blackout sketches back to back. They've never done that, 300 00:21:56.599 --> 00:22:00.279 so I guess they just gave this a little bit more time, and it 301 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.119 shows. It's a little long in the tooth. Oh was that a joke 302 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.319 a vampire joke? No, but it was better than every joke in this 303 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:15.559 episode. It wasn't very funny this segment, but I mean, yeah, 304 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.519 I saw the twist coming a mile away. I was just happy to see 305 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:26.480 France's Letterer back as Count Dracula. He was in the Return of Dracula from 306 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:30.640 fifty eight, which I actually watched a few years ago. I was doing 307 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:34.839 an episode about Shadow of a Doubt, and the plot of Shadow of a 308 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:41.119 Doubt and the Return of Dracula are incredibly similar, and some of the shots 309 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:45.079 are even cribbed from Shadow of a Doubt. It's a really interesting film, 310 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:49.160 highly recommended. Well, it's cheap as hell, but I thought it was 311 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:53.279 very entertaining, and it was kind of nice to see him back as Dracula 312 00:22:53.440 --> 00:23:03.160 for his final and the guy that played the main Nazi helmet dantein Great Face. 313 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:08.440 I mostly know him from I think Casablanca, and I think he's the 314 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:15.000 part of the couple that Rick is trying to help out, even though Rickett 315 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:19.359 sticks his neck out for nobody. But they're like the really sympathetic couple. 316 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:23.920 They're like the young Rick and Elsa type of couple. So he sees himself 317 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:29.960 in that. But yeah, it was a good reunion for me of all 318 00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:33.559 these great actors. But the sketch itself, I was just like, yeah, 319 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:37.359 all right, it's inoffensive, but really didn't do a whole lot for 320 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:41.839 me. Here's the thing I liked about the episode. Two things. Francis 321 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.960 Letter's performance is Dracula, particularly when he vamps out at the end. He 322 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:51.079 actually is frightening, which is in his performance throughout this sort of bemused, 323 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:55.319 kind of like oh silly little, oh okay, well, we'll play along 324 00:23:55.400 --> 00:24:00.039 like he's great throughout it. Also the fact that they gave him a cape 325 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:07.279 with a white stitched interior folded back over his shoulders, so from behind he 326 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:10.359 looked like like he walked out of a Tim Burton movie, like this black 327 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:12.960 and white kind of stripe and the and the white shirt with the white bow 328 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:18.119 tie. I loved that that was he was dapper as fuck, and I 329 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:22.240 think that's pretty much where my appreciation ends. They do something in this episode 330 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:25.920 drives me crazy. And it's not just this, it's not your main just 331 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:30.039 this episode. We heard a lot when people, Okay, anytime characters on 332 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:34.440 screen are speaking another language and they're speaking English, we just assume we're hearing 333 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:40.359 German or French or whatever. When they throw in words from that language, 334 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:42.599 it makes me want to slap everybody in the head, you know, like 335 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:48.880 you're speaking German, do not say gaunt in him? Do not? Oh 336 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.279 I can tell you somebody that does that quite a bit, mister Tarantino. 337 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:56.720 There were so many times in Hate Fill eight where I was just like, 338 00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:00.599 what are you doing? Drives me a resolutely nuts when they do that, 339 00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:06.039 And it's always just because the writer knows those three phrases, so they're gonna 340 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:10.039 they're gonna throw it in. You know. Also, the Nazis in this 341 00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:14.759 we know they're bad because they opened doors just by machine gunning them. What 342 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:18.720 was the need do we need that we know their Nazis? They don't have 343 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.759 to be and wouldn't have everyone in the room been killed. I know they're 344 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.440 vampires, but like they would have been hit or something. All of these 345 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:30.200 things are problems, including that initial Nazi machine gunner. I know, vol 346 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.839 if that guy who's that is the best part of this entire episode. He 347 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:37.960 had a beanie. It looked like the Nazi helmet didn't fit on the top 348 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:40.160 of his head, like it was just that, I don't know. It 349 00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:45.200 looked like Spanky from the art. The thing that bothered me the most is 350 00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:51.240 Dracula in this seems to have some rule that they can't start eating before midnight, 351 00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:53.640 which makes no sense, right, So, like, I guess it's 352 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:59.119 the idea like he doesn't have his power yet, like he can't attack and 353 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:02.680 slaughter all the idiots and he's just waiting. That's fine, okay, if 354 00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:06.720 that's the vampire rule you want to come up with, great, But in 355 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:11.880 the waiting for those last few seconds to tick, the Nazi scumbag makes him 356 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:15.440 Hyle Hitler, and he does it. Dracula niles, no one, okay, 357 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:19.480 maybe Mina Hark, not even Satan, no man. He's a He's 358 00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:25.079 an entity into himself. There is no nation. Butt Dracula. That offended 359 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.400 me to my core. I didn't understand it, Like that would have been 360 00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:32.920 the moment where Dracula stood up and killed him, Like that's you don't give, 361 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.720 you don't make well, you know what, I honestly even to take 362 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.119 umbridge with something else. The devil is not mocked. Dracula is not the 363 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:47.119 devil, right, but the title would are we then? Is Dracula the 364 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:51.039 devil? Per the title of the story, hey man, interchangeable in the 365 00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:56.319 minds of nineteen seventy people everywhere. Yeah, I just it's weird that the 366 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:02.359 characterization of Dracula. Dracula would not hyle Hitler unless Dracula was Hitler and was 367 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:04.759 expecting people to hile Dracula. And that's what I you know, I like 368 00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.319 this. You know, what did you do during the war, Grandpa? 369 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:11.400 Like? I like that, you know, And I it's quaint. I 370 00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:15.880 like vampires killing Nazis. Who doesn't anyway, the Nazis great, but you 371 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.559 know, particularly if they're going to be vamped upon. But really, if 372 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.279 they wanted to just do this as a blackout sketch, it just should have 373 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:27.680 been like, you know, a Nazi like motorcade, like deciding which road 374 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.359 to go down and go and a peasants saying, don't go there, it's 375 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:34.039 spookytown, and them going, we don't care about your spookiness. And then 376 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:37.839 often then they get killed by vampires. That's it. Did either of you 377 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.119 read the short story? No, I feel like I'm letting you down this 378 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.519 week, father them alone doesn't matter. You know, nine times out of 379 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:49.720 ten they're almost exact. And this one is very quick and benefits from the 380 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:53.480 fact that we can't see the fact that it's obviously count Dracula in a castle. 381 00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:56.680 That's the way. That's the literary way that you have to do it, 382 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.000 like that would be the way to do it, Like you don't. 383 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.599 In my mind, the way to do this is don't make it obvious it's 384 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.920 Dracula, like right, Why why give it away immediately? Even the short 385 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.079 story gives it away because like, first of all, here's the difference in 386 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.279 the short story. Okay, the Nazis are not there seeking out this group 387 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:21.240 of terrorist you know, anti Nazi uh, you know, soldiers at all. 388 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:25.039 They just want it because it's a strategic compound. So they show up 389 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:30.079 and and the dracular character lets them in, and and and he's like, 390 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.359 oh, of course you'd want this. It's absolutely strategic. He's like as 391 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.279 nice as he is in the thing and as accommodating as he is in the 392 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:40.640 thing. But they're not barking orders and like like trying to let him know 393 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:42.599 how great the Nazis are or anything. They're just like, okay, listen, 394 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.160 we're going to be taking this place and you need to stand over there, 395 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.000 and you know, And they have a conversation where he's like, oh, 396 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.559 I haven't had visitors here for a long time. Englishman named Jonathan Harker, 397 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:55.440 like, and that's halfway. That's the halfway point in the story. 398 00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:57.400 Like, okay, now, if you didn't know here it is, but 399 00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:03.400 just handle very brief briefly as this should have been, and skillfully as this 400 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:08.039 should have been as well. I don't know who the blackout sketches involved the 401 00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:12.319 universal monsters, though that trend continues. You guys, notice that, Yeah, 402 00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.319 it's true. We've had a Frankenstein, We've had a Phantom of the 403 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:22.359 Opera, We've had now a straight up Dracula named in Everything, Ductor Jackal 404 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.559 and mister Hyde. Yeah, yeah, we haven't Hadstein Baby, we had 405 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:33.559 no Mummy yet no mummy and we had an invisible man. Yet it feels 406 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.799 like we should that's pretty cheap to do. Yeah, we checked in it 407 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.319 all the time. Yeah yeah, Jack Laird would be down for that. 408 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.599 I'm surprised nobody's exam I'm surprised he suggested. And then go film twenty minutes 409 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.559 and immediately put it into an episode without any afterthoughts. All right, well, 410 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:52.160 then we're gonna play a preview of the next episode and we'll be right 411 00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:59.319 back to wrap up. First selection a painting suggesting solitude, or at least 412 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.519 solemnity, as viewed during the midnight hour. It tells a tale of two 413 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:10.480 young people caught inexorably in a recurring nightmare with a finale on the jeweltring side. 414 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:15.960 Our painting, with the somewhat familiar face is called Midnight Never Ends, 415 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:23.559 and this is the Night Gallery. There's something rather remarkable in the scope of 416 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:30.720 imagination, peculiar to children. They project and dream and fantasize with beauty and 417 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:34.119 simplicity and faith in amount of that somehow eludes this as we grow older. 418 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:40.240 This is Brenda, and Brenda has a playmate. It comes to her in 419 00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:44.839 part because of loneliness, and what I wish for you is that you never 420 00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.880 get that lonely. That's right. On the next Midnight viewing, we'll be 421 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.839 taking a look at season two, episode seven, which is broken into another 422 00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:56.079 just two segments, Midnight Never Ends and Brenda, one of which features a 423 00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:02.599 character so grating that I killed myself. Oh my God and Heaven. I'm 424 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:06.440 so fucking ready. You don't even understand. I mean, you clearly do, 425 00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:11.359 but the audience is not prepared for the level of vitriol that will probably 426 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.799 be thrown at one half of the next episode, well until my resurrection. 427 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.160 Where can people find you, Mike White? You can find me and all 428 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:23.240 kinds of great stuff over at Weirdingwaymedia dot com. It's a great site. 429 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:27.640 Everybody needs to go there right now, What about you, Chris Stashu Weetingwaymedia 430 00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.440 dot com. That's the place where you can listen to this show and other 431 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.960 shows that we've been on, like Father Malone's Dark Destinations, Mike White's The 432 00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.039 Projection Booth, and my The Culture Cast. And if you can't find a 433 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.440 show to listen to on there, you know, maybe just don't. I 434 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.759 don't know where I was going with that. One never mind. Yeah, 435 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:45.759 if it's not on there, you can't. If it's not on there, 436 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.839 should you be listening to it at all? Yeah, that's it. I 437 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.400 have a new show. 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