Hell, Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back, and welcome to the
penultimate Mad Max Retrospective. Of course we'll be doing the Furiosa, but that's
not retrospective, that's a review that's completely different. My name is the clown
Prince of the Thunderdome Trust now, and I'm joined by I am Tonton Kirk
Patzer, the Master blaster Field. Great poor names as well, Master blaster
Tonton. You know Thunderdome. Yeah, we are here to talk about obviously
Thunderdome, Mad Max Beyond the Thundered on the third edition and final time.
Actually, I guess for Mel Gibson to appear as Mad Max, I'm assuming.
I don't think he's gonna pop up Furiosa. I guess you'd never know,
but I'm gonna take the over and under on the no for that on
the hard that's a call. No, yeah, I think we're all from
on that one. But yes, this is directed by mad Max, or
sorry, not by Mad Max, directed by George Miller. And I gotta
get the other guy's name because I'll probably get that George Miller, same guy
still, yeah, but he had help on this one for a multitude reasons
this. This one is like maybe like I hit a few trivia stuff at
the beginning, but this one's interesting because we talked about this before. Where
to direct another movie? Remember contact, They gave him the rights to Road
Warrior and this movie districted by George Ogaville or Ogilville O G I L v
I E Augilville. Am I saying that right? George Ogiville Okaville Ogilville something
George to George's the Devil George George Square. Yeah, this one originally was
not written. I could probably try and find but this was not written as
Mad Max movie originally. If I can find it where Oh okay? Yeah,
the film was not originally a Mad Max film, but a post apocalyptic
Lord of the Flies type of film about a tribate children who are found by
an adult. It became a third Mad maxim when George Miller was suggested that
Max is the man who finds the children. So I'm assuming there was rewrites
and Max took more of a bigger role. I don't know if, like
the beginning of the Thunderdome would be the kids and everything like that, but
it was written as nothing and that happens all the time in Hollywood, you
can look like Diehard three. That's the same thing. That script originally is
a script called Simon says, and someone read and went, oh, this
should be a Diehard movie, and then they changed it. So happens all
the time in Hollywood. Where's the script and go, hey, we could
put some ip on here. But yeah, just to leave with some tribute
from Beyond the Thunderdome was the first mad Max film made without producer Brian Byron
Kennedy. That's why he gets that for Byron at the end there, who
had been killed in the helicopter crash in nineteen eighty three. George Miller was
very hesitant to continue with without his producing partner, saying later, I was
reluctant to go ahead, and there was a sort of I need to do
something. Let's just get over the shock and the grief of all, like
I said this title card. He co directed the film. He had worked
with George on a TV mini series, the other George Ogilville or whatever George
Oh called the dismissal. He said he just needed help. He said he
had a lot of us played. I asked my friend George, who was
working on mini series. Could he come and help me, But I don't
remember the experience because I was just doing it, you know, I was
grieving. So it sounds like they had this idea for the film, employed
a group of workshopping rehearsal technique that they had developed, so it sounded like
sounds like he's going through tough time where at first like I don't know if
I want to do it, and then they were like, ah, fuck
it, let's just do it, let's do it for him, let's get
over let's work on something together. And then it's sound like when he started
he was like this is too much for me, and not a bad It
just sounds like it was just like going through a tough time, just losing
his friend, right, so good on, I'm smart to be like,
I need some help with this one, and he hit up this guy that
he trusted. So sad story that you know that all happened. But that's
why George Miller has a co directing and that's why there's say I said,
between the production of this wasn't a mad Max film too. They didn't know
if they were gonna make it. The back and forth d director not that
it was like development help, but just like it went through lots of iteration
and things. I'm sure even more than reported and stuff. But yeah,
what do you think Taylor about this film? Because I feel like this is
a very different Mad Max film. I feel like as far as I see
it, because I don't think enough it's like massive bad Max with the franchise
fans. But I feel like most people always put this as like always the
bottom and they talk not poorly of it, but it always feels like it's
definitely like the third. Is that the case for you? I know we're
not doing full rankings or did you appreciate because this one doesn't have much cars
it is a very different type of story, but you still got Max,
you still got the Wasteland, you still got a lot of these kooky characters.
It's just like a lot of the stuff it was known for, it's
kind of disappear or has disappeared from it. I appreciate that it was actually
a change. And yeah, I've never seen this one before, Like I
never saw maybe this one before either. I only saw the original initially,
right, and that obviously the Fury Road. So going in with any pre
existing knowledge in this film was great and actually enjoyed it. I did,
and I don't know where if I would, I feel I could put it
over number two. But wow, that's big because number two. Everyone's always
like, that's that's the big one, except I like number two a lot.
But I love this one. I just felt like an anthology. It
felt different. It didn't feel like we were getting the same old thing,
and I like that. You know, these movies are so heavily focused on
just the car chases and whatnot, and I appreciate that that was just like
a small portion of this and they did it differently again from what we had
seen before, like a big oil truck or a big water truck, and
in this case, it is something different and I appreciate that. Uh.
The characters I really enjoyed, and I like just the basic story that they
they had going on here, and I like seeing how more expanded this was
in the world of just this the wasteland. It was. It was really
interesting. But I got confused though, because wasn't that this pilot the same
pilot from the second one, And didn't he like, uh yeah yeah,
but he like, what what's what's confusion? Because I thought that he became
the leader of those other guys. They said he's still good, right,
He doesn't say he's not. He's just kind of hanging around right now.
And even Max, like he does go to be like, oh, you're
gonna fly the thing. But there's times where it's like does Max even remember
him? Like I because I thought it was a different role that he had.
I thought it was the same actor, different role, which is kind
of funny because he's a pilot again, Like it's so let me. It
just didn't really make sense why Max wouldn't have recognized him or anything, but
like maybe you can make dergyman. He does because he's just like you,
you're a pilot, like you're gonna be flying this. But like I was
expecting more of interaction between those two. I don't know which we learned in
between from now. We didn't talk was the last review, but we learned
that guy has been in a bunch of stuff and he was like, he
what's that alien in Revenge Stiff Taylor, He's that guy. He was the
from you the Palen guy. Yeah, he's that guy. What was the
other guy he was too? There was another mouth of sour on. Yeah,
he's the fucking mouth of sourn what like, that's I'm so curious.
I did, and there's another one there. But I was just like I
couldn't see that. I couldn't believe this. That's why there's some good with
Twitter. It was like this trending tweet and it's like, oh my god,
this guy like that we just talked about in Mad Max. He's Mouse
sour On, He's that guy from you Gotta Go Like, he's the guy
he's the alien that speaks to Obi Wan and he's like, no, everything's
great here and then he whispers like, no, what're fucked? Like,
help us out. So that's cool, man, But I'm working on the
name still, so but yeah, I just think it was It was nice.
The only thing that I felt was a little bit of a slog through
was when he was in this little like haven area with all the kids and
all that stuff. I didn't really get into all that, but I appreciate
how they based this whole belief system that they had on Captain uh, what
was his name, Captain the Max or whatever it was, or it's just
the fact that, yeah, the plane was their whole religion basically, and
that they tell the stories that the stories can be told again in the future.
Whatnot I got. There's a lot of that I didn't care for,
but then there was some stuff that I appreciated. But I was mostly just
engaged in what was going on in Bartertown and the story that they created,
this dilemma between someone who controls the underworld and then this person who wants to
control it all from up above, and how it just kind of falls apart.
So in Road Warrior, Bruce Spence a who we're talking about, he
plays the Gyro captain no name, and then in thunder Note he plays Jedediah,
So could be different or it could be the same because in the first
one he's given no name. He's just the Gyro captain, so you could
learn his name is Jedediah. Right, So I really don't know. We've
talked about this before where the villain from Mad Max one comes back and plays
a more than Joe and whatever, and Fury Roads George Miller does this,
so I really don't know, but it is all that he plays like another
pilot, So I don't know. For me, it's like I didn't know
which way to go because they interact so little. I almost took it as
like it's been five years too, right, so it's like if that's the
only time they've seen each other, who knows. But yeah, it was
a non choice there, But overall they liked the movie teither. Overall,
I like the movie Yeah, mister Pats or what about you? Yeah,
first time diving into the Thunderdome. Here, this one definitely over the other
two. I think it feels the most different, probably because we're in like
well, I was gonna say we're in like a set location for like a
good chunk of this movie, but I guess the second film we are too.
They kept going back to that fucking sight lin. Yeah, so I
guess that's I don't know, there's somewhat of a comparison there, but just
for whatever reason, this one feels the most different. But yeah, I
did not like this one as much as I was maybe hoping to. I
quite like the first two films, but this one it just seemed like a
notable step down for me. I think Taylor's assessment that it is it does
feel like an anthology film, I think that's accurate. But unfortunately here it
just it just didn't really work too much because I think the adventure just wasn't
as like just gripping for me all of the stuff with the kids. I
just really did not like pretty much all of that, and that's a big
chunk of the story. So I feel like I peaked my interest when they're
in Bartertown and just like the little classism stuff going on there, like the
hierarchy of have like who's running Bartertown. Some of that was fun. But
the more we stuck, the more we stuck, that's not a word,
the more we stayed in Bartertown, I'm just like, man, I just
want to be on the road. I just want to see some crazy,
high octane action and not be confined to this one location, even though we
are getting some pretty crazy, wacky characters and just just some wild post apocalyptics
stuff going on, because I think I was interested in the idea of going
to like a set place that they actually have, like like this is this
is like a big town in the scale of apocalyptic post apocalyptic world. Obviously
everyone's bartering, like there's there's like a structure to how the city is ran.
All that stuff is interesting to me on paper, but just when I
got it, I wasn't really satisfied with it too much. And yeah,
just like the lost Children wherever we're calling them, they're they're just so annoying
to me. They just kept like hooting and hollering and screaming and mel Gibson,
I guess Max this film. Multiple times he's like, just shut up,
shut stop making that. And I'm like, yeah, that's how I
feel right now. So you would have been like Max, he was like,
there's no tomorrow. This is life and fucking such deal then move on.
That's Kurt going he as kids. He was like, he's like,
we're gonna stay here, Like he's just like doctrinating himself into the into the
village of these people, which I guess that's a choice. I didn't.
I didn't think he would fully stay. I think he was just meant like
the overall, we like, it's just better if we do this now,
like like he's she's shrying it, which fits mad Max, right. He's
like pessimistic. He's like this, yeah, there's there's no fucking fairy tale.
There's no like prophecy or anything like you got your kids are fucked,
deal with it. One of the best things for me that happened in this
movie was when what's your Face chopped off Melkibson's hair and he had the short
hair going forward. I was not liking that the long locks that he had.
It just yeah, did not look great. But yeah, yeah the
first time. I feel like, I feel like I've just seen this on
cable multiple times in my life over the time, and I feel like maybe
it was because it was the lesser of the Mad Max. Maybe it was
like easier to get the rights to. And it's also I have the trivia,
so we might not have much trivia because I'm thrown on out here.
This is the first Mad Max was PG. Thirteen in the States. That
could probably be another reason why I actually probably saw on TV a bunch because
which makes sense. So yeah, it's I feel like it's much like it's
a little out of order, but maybe it can be closer to Tayta like
in the Apes remake that I do like this one, but I get why
people would not. I think I like it now because we have those first
two and then you get Fury Road. I can see if you are a
diehard mad Max fan and this was the last Mad Max you got for a
while, maybe you were pissed because it is very different in the extense of
like all those movies are based around vehicles and roads, where I actually like
the choice of that being the final battle, like you're building up to,
Oh, you're finally gonna get back on the road. And I do say
that even as a road battle, I don't think it compares to any of
the ones in one and two. I feel like it is like a lesser
then, but it's still is kind of like a fun like Okay, we'll
save it for the finale. But I think this one, I'm so excited
to get to Fury Road. Fearer Road just fucking feels like a combination of
all three of these movies. It really feels like it has everything, because
this one feels much more like the whole, like a moren Joe, and
like we get introduction to water being like a very big thing here. I
know there's more like water and milk on the other one, but like just
the idea of liquids and like stuff that used to be in the earth,
Like in the second one is all about gasoline and oil, right, but
this is just like, hey, I can get you some fucking water,
Like you do something you get like a shot glass of water, and that's
like a huge like fuck yeah, Like I love that all the elements of
one, two, and three all I feel like they combine. We'll get
to them in Furior Road and that's where this felt like too. We see
one of the people that have like the white painting that's not the exact same
as like Nicholas Holton, oh man, what is their name again? There's
something boys in the Furiy Road. We'll get there, but you know what
I'm talking about right there, like the Nasty Boys, you know what I'm
talking about where they're they had. I feel like this was hitting more on
that type of societies and groups together and like rules of the road and laws
and stuff that Fury Road has. So that was fun to see. There's
just characters in here. I love that there's a lot of kooky characters like
the first too, but I think I was less annoyed by them. I'll
give you the kids at time, they're little grading, but I mean more
of the adults where we got some wild characters. But sometimes in those first
ones, man, it's like fuck, like I can only watch these characters
for so long and it's grading on me. To me, I didn't have
that here. Uh, Tina Turner and he's like, I finds an actress
sure looking spicy in the movie. I love all the outfits and the designs.
I love that it's like done the thing where Mad Max one was right
before the Apocalypse, Mad two was the Apocalypse, and Mad Max three is
like the Apocalypse. But now you see people that are like high raining in
the Apocalypse, so they look like a little nicer even though they still kind
of look like shit. It's like, oh, this is considered to be
like top tier in the Apocalypse, Like if you look like this. Yeah,
And I just think some of the humor worked for me my fucking highlight.
And I didn't remember the scene as well, but we'll get to it.
I fucking loved the fight Mad Max had in the fucking dome that like
I was, I fucking loved it. I had that epiphan tub up many
times where I've ridden like a truck a treatment I went looked over and I'm
like, oh, fuck it. Death was inspired by this movie. I
didn't have my characters on rubbers, but like, I loved that whole set
piece. I loved everything around it. Yeah, I was surprisedly because I
had not seen this in a while, so I did not have enough an
opinion BI like, oh, is it like weaker and for me? And
also I have to say I'm not a cars guy, so that has to
play into it. But I understand like how well those scenes are done.
So I think for me, if this was the last last one, I
could maybe understand more criticism than I still do. To extend because it's kind
of you got the four. I agree with you. It's like a nice
like oh, it's a nice like pivot to something else. It reminds me
of a lot of the video game too, because on the video game you
get like a lot of you're on the ground and on the foot doing stuff.
So no, this, I surprisedly liked it, and I liked it
a lot more than I thought I would. And even stuff like Kirkland's right,
like even the long hair, like I hate when they do that,
like Michael Keaton flash they do it. But some about here, I'm like,
I dug it. I liked the look. I don't know why.
It's like all the things usually I don't like. For some reason, I
was digging here, so which is funny because like he gets the cut and
then he's like completely gray. If if Tom Harry is supposed to be him,
I don't know how he like magically in the waistline gets back his dark
brown hair. But that's okay, maybe it's another time. So well,
yeah, let's talk about the Thunderdome and let's talk about uh uh, just
that idea and Tina Turner in the society there and everything. What do you
guys think about fucking like, I don't know where thunder done because I know
as a song who came first ac DC or this? So I managed in
ac DC, right, Thunderdome either way, just a fucking badass title like
Beyond the Thunderdome, Like that's cool, Like I want a fucking bar called
the Thunderdome, you know. But yeah, yeah, what do you guys
think of just that location and all the characters we meet there? Max,
It's just kind of he's just looking for work right now. That's what I
love. We pick up he's still just wandering the desert. I fucking love
the line and the guys like I'm looking for work. He's like, well,
sorry, the brothels full. It's like, oh man, what a
great like, what a great fucking line. Just to stick it to him
like there's nothing and then all he could do is a whore and we've got
enough of those, So yeah, good stuff. I think the peak of
the movie for me was definitely like the card chase at the end, but
after that would have been just kind of the introduction to Bartertown and because like
we just never really seen a place like this up until this point where it's
just like fully established and seeing the trading going on, seeing seeing the sleazy
salesman they're selling you know, airports fresh water that's completely not something mat.
I just love how like cycle he was too after he pulls out like the
radiation detector and he's like ah, then he just saunders off like just trying
to get like another victim selling his tainted water. Just just totally fucked up.
But uh no, I I did like all of that. I did
like the line that you mentioned, you know, no work or the brothels
falls so that you can't get work, and just yeah, like just seeing
Turner's character, I feel like it was just such a unexpected turn of events
of what was going on, Like when he goes up there and you just
have Tonton on the saxophone, just like just shredding playing some some soft jazz.
Nice call back to the first one, right with mad Max. Remember
when he had he was playing his wife the Sacks. Remember that random scene
I thought about, Yeah when he just like we meet Max and his bust
on the Sacks or like fuck he Max on Sacks and I thought of that.
But yeah, yeah, no, so all of that stuff was was
really interesting, and just I thought it did a good job at kind of
just setting like the playing field of like this is this movie, this is
our plane area that these are some of the main head hitters. So yeah,
I I like the introduction of barter Town even even maybe like I guess
the middle act is just the weakest for me overall in the movie. But
but like when they like the kids adduct him and it's like finding Neverland or
like he's pretty much just like leading the Lost Boys, know exactly, like
like it was, and then like obviously the name being Thunderdome, I was
curious when that was gonna come up. So when they when they mentioned thunder
Dome and it's literally just the Colisseum, you know, like gladiator fight to
the Death, I thought that was really exciting and I agree with you.
I thought, I thought that whole scene was really well done, fantastic choreography
with like the fuckinges and everything, and I want to be flipping around in
there man like Gez like a Toby fighting fucking bonesaw. And I got the
same idea because I was like, this is what they must have been thinking,
like how does he using these ropes? But yeah, Matt fucking the
stunt man and mel Gibson, not that they had look but they could have
played fucking venom or play venom like I'm assuming mel Gibson wasn't doing backflips in
the cage, but like they did a good job. But whenever they would
swap between the two, the hair was smart. I don't know if the
hair was a choice of like let's have that in the script or if they
specifically gave him the hair just for that. If it was for a stunt,
very smart because it's like a tuke of like, you can't see shit
when mel is flipping around whoever it is. I imagine some of those bigger
flips were probably not him. But at the same time, it did look
like a soup, like it just looked like a harness. Well you could
use it like some sort of fun arcade like place that we go like all
Siddenly there's those places where it's like you strap up and they like do the
air and you're like flying right, Like I feel like it would be safe
enough and it's not like you're following a huge height if something were to happen.
It's like I feel like I feel like the times mel was in those
fucking cars in the first two are way more dangerous than anything they're doing with
these rubber bands. So no, I just want to do that. It's
like, man, I want a place where you could have like fake fights
and to be jumping around and like whether it be like you know, like
a paintball thing, Like I want to be strapped up moving around like you
know, something like that like paintballs. Maybe like a like a like a
flag football, but it's like you have to pull the flag from someone's pants
like that sort of deal, Like that would be fun. I just saw
this, like, man, I want someone to make the thunder doome right
now. You got you gotta suit it up. You got all the people
waiting their turn watching like fuck yeah, I could have took the whole movie
in the thunder Dome, be honest, like if they would have just had
Mad Max that going through a mortal combat tournament of all these people, which
also when they took the mask off and the guy had special needs, I
that was just the whole thing. But at one point I thought they're trying
to allude to that being the guy from the first movie. Yeah, yeah,
but then I don't think they were, because he just said, like,
this wasn't part of the deal. Like I think MAXs didn't want to
hurt someone like that, even though this guy clearly capable because he kicked the
ship Max for a lot of the time. But again, he has moral
code, So I appreciate it a big like conspiracy thought, like people kind
of like theorize that it is. But a lot of people I was looking
at that, they're saying like, no, don't it's not Why did that's?
No? Don't again, like why couldn't it be Yeah, it'd be
fine. We don't see what happens that character in the first one, right,
but yeah, the Mad Max fan of me, like I said,
when we talk about in the Road War, where a lot of people think
that Tom Hardy's Max is actually like this the fair old kid, Like,
there's a lot of fun little fan theories they have about the universe, and
I like that. It's kind of like Bond where people go like, Hey,
what's your favorite type of Bond? Is it each guy? Is it
a reboot or is it each guy is getting like the James Bond name and
it's his story. Like I like that when it's like, oh, you
could be cause to me, I would almost prefer this to be that guy
because I think it's like it's a long like because we don't see much of
Max's life, Like that's the crazy thing, like I have it in my
trivia there have no trivia left. They at one point deleted a scene where
he did have a nightmare about his son and his wife. But as we
talk about Road Warrior in this, you really don't need to watch any of
that, So I almost would appreciated that, but I would I wouldn't have
mind them tying that back to the first movie being that same character, because
you get so little of Mad Max's personal life from that first one. It
doesn't even feel like it existed. Sometimes, you know, m what do
you think about the opening to him? Yeah, I think Buttertown is a
really really cool place and this is one of the highlights for me, and
just seeing everyone trying to bring their stuff to trade and whatnot. The one
guy that was in there with the collectors say it's either two hours of the
woman or like a bag of grain. And I don't know what did he
take. I think he took a woman. We never heard what he took.
I was curious. I'm like, is he really gonna go for the
woman for two hours? That's a long time. I know grain, but
two hours long time? An hours? Yeah, it's gonna be I guess
if he's gonna die, you know, Like do I want to beg a
grain or go out swinging? Yeah? Yeah, But I think overall it
was it's a very cool area. And I in the they built this whole
foundation of choosing Underworld as pig ship to methane to funnel their fuel sources and
whatnot. Just it's it's a cool concept. It's very post apocalyptic. I
think the set th is meat and I like how there's just this hierarchy of
characters that are all here. And yeah, I think just the the whole
belief of like the law that they have with the Thunderdome was really really cool.
I liked I liked it a lot. The fight scene was really really
awesome, and I think that them just jumping around was neat. The people
all all on top of the cage holding the weapons that they can jump up
and rab too was knee There's just so much really really cool stuff that they
were doing with that that I can appreciape that I just visually. I just
loved it. I love seeing Max just like smoothly, just crisply glide over
Blaster as Blaster is like trying to like swipe them and take them down,
and even the chainsaw like running out of gas and stuff. There's just so
many humorous little things that they added in here too. The chainsaw is one
of the watchers accidentally, because yeah, I can't remember if it's Blaster Max,
but somebody has and they charged with the chainsaw and they move and then
when the spectator just gets fucking sawed quickly, you know, yeah, it's
dangerous, dangerous sport, that's for sure. But even after that kind of
failed, they brought out to like the Thunderdome wheel or wherever whatever it was,
which I got something here. I'm gonna I'm gonna do for you guys.
You guys each get to spin this this wheel. I put all the
things on there from you. Still I'm literally have no trivia. That was
another tribute point of what was on the wheel. Can at least tell the
listeners what's on the wheel before. So we got acquittal, and that's like,
you're relieved of all your accusations. He got this because he didn't kill
the people, right he was supposed to kill him. That's the loss he
has this. So goolgs just like you go to the wheel or whatever.
Yeah, so googlogs just you get sent out to live for yourself, right,
Like, good luck there? What image did you? That's iron bar?
There is not that any of our wives and girlfriends would be a perfect
but man, we should do like a mad Max themed party one year.
No one would want to do it, but I'm like, that's a tail
that's gonna do. He's gonna do. This fucking guy with iron bar was
the highlight of this fucking movie. He just would not fucking I can't wait
to talk about them. But so, yeah, we have a goolog and
then we have Antie's choice, which we know, okay, she gets to
pick obviously, and then life imprisonment, which self explanatory that that's probably the
that might be the worst one. I don't know, that might be the
worst amputations. You might have a chance, Like what would you take amputation
or life sentence. I'd take life sentence last for sure. Yeah. Probably.
But what did they get to pick what they're amputating? What did they
just do this, you dick out? I think so they pulled der dick?
Did you jump to your dick out? I feel like they're gonna pick
one of the worst things. I don't need to Oh, they're gonna pick
I thought you said you were picking. You just said, like our amputation
and just whips his dick out, like, yeah, this can go,
dude, I'll take the grain wheels not even stop spinning yet, You're like,
I'm gonna take the dick. I know. We got Underworld, which
I'm assuming it's like what Matt Max is doing. All those other people that
were on there aimed up shoveling ship. Yeah, shovel and ship. It's
not sh death is probably is that better than life in prisonment one of the
better options. I think on here it sucks when like there's because what there's
going free there's goolog and death. It sucks to me that those are probably
the top three. Death is like to me above maybe not, I guess,
not amputation, I guess I'll do that. Oh, I guess four
foot Goods. That's not too bad either, I guess. Actually, even
though that could you could just go out there and get killed, right,
gun's gone. That's just drama though. Your anxiety is through the fucking room.
Yeah yeah, but uh yeah, so death. Yeah, four foot
Goods, as you said, spin again. And that hard labor, which
is that I feel like that's just like oh underworld or it's like, yeah,
it's less in prison corner the yeah, hard labor. Yeah, and
see this is stuff like before you spent, Like, this is the stuff
I was really liking, like the world building them, interest in will and
having all these things. That's why it's like, man, I could take
a TV show of multiple people, like just different mass, different characters getting
and seeing what they were like, Yeah, I loved it. But al
right, who's going first? Who wants to be spun first? I'll take
going, you're spinning it? Here you go, Kirkland, he wants that
hard labor already there with the hautation. Oh you're free. Oh my god.
Hell yeah, wow, well done, Kirkland free. I'll see you
guys later. Yeah you're oh god damn. All right, all right,
here we go, Travis, you're up next. Fuck. I don't like
this. Get two acquittals in a row. No, no, no,
there's no way going to the lost boys with kids already you're on the horse.
I mean the kids. Are the kids finding you? I guess they
would, well they do. It's great. It's gonna be like here when
they're just fucking the wild three ladies. I can figure it out. Think
waste of a fucking horse. I think that's what I thought you. I
thought, like, man, that's a healthy horse right there. That there,
just just sending to death. Like yeah, okay, we got what
do we got for me? Death? That's the positive ones, right,
I think me and but me Kirkle got the better ones out atop that.
You know, son, meet up for sure, we can meet up Phil
Rendezvus and save you. It's a kid. I'll pick over my horse.
I'll have a horse once I get out there. I'll bring the Yeah,
I'll bring the kids. Krook. I'm being oh fuck, but h yeah,
No, I don't have much saying something I've said sprinkled, But yeah,
at the beginning, the first act is my favor, which I think
is like almost are rarety of movies. I feel like it's like the middle
or end, like the first act, you're just getting introedduced to things.
But I said before, I love the world building. I love this being
like a now functioning apocalypse. It's like a rebuilding and now what's gonna happen,
which is great. I know it's at the end, but I fucking
love when they do get in the copter and because I got a budget and
we've seen little things, but for the first time ever, we go back
and see what the world looks like now, like the cities and everything,
how they're just it's the disaster zone. Buildings are taken down, they're toppled.
Like I really love that. So seen blade. Yeah, exactly right.
So but no, I love the opening I said, I love the
Thunderdome. I love Auntie. I love that she kind of had like a
like a tough but little sexual flirting with Max. I love that they had
like an understanding. But we're you know, Max was still mad, but
he was still going with the laws, like I loved everything. Like I
said, I I don't think I disliked the Last Boys as much as Kirkling.
I think they're definitely lower and I did like the finale. But I
think there's a movie of this that's The Thunderdome the full way that I'm like,
this is one of my favorite movies of all time because I just loved
and that's a movie like my treatment is like that. It's like I'm not
getting into it, but like the whole movie is out of like just this
town whatnot. And I loved everything they did there and that fight, man,
that's that's a reason I'm really glad we did that retro because I think
I remember this fight, but I did not remember it being this high level
of really enjoying it. And that's something that I feel like, that's a
scene I would just put on in the future, like YouTube, and just
like I want to see Max flipping around fighting the sky chainsaw a spike,
like it's such a cool location and idea and I love that they pulled it
off. So but yeah, we transition. Kirk or how do you feel
about because I think you've talked a little bit how you feel about the kids
and the prophecy. And we meet Max and he's in the Dazer. He
survives the goolag. He's walking out there and he meets these young ands and
they think he's something else because they find this drawing and they've made this drawing
which looks identical to him. So it's hard for Max to be like,
that's not me. But like, what do you think about all this stuff?
Did you argue with kirkla and that brought the movie down a lot for
you? I feel like it not a lot, but it definitely pulled me
out of it a little bit. I would have liked to have seen more
of the Buttertown stuff going on than really here. But I mean, it's
cool to see that this place was kind of like a safe haven. What
town Buttertown? But yeah, that's the adjacent too much bread one leader of
butter or two hours with a woman? What do you want? Can I
have both? Give me both? I can use use it, use the
butter Yeah, yeah, but I I think it definitely was getting a little
crazy. But at the same time it makes sense. You're gonna have people
creating their own kind of belief systems and religions, and in this case,
you got this downed plane that they're they're all praising and I'm trying to understand
the storyline. So you have these the the kids of the descendants of this
captain and of this the family, the parents that all went out there,
I guess, to get on a plane and the plane crashed or something like
that, and they're thinking that Mad Max is gonna make this this fucked up
piece of ship plane crash fly, which it does. Put them on a
plane, I guess, so they get it counts right. It's that weird
type of prophecy thing, like like you said, religious where someone will happen
and it's like did it happen because it is like fore toll or did it
happen in this weird way? And now people say, see, I told
you you know these that it's written. Fuck, I'd love to see hobbyar
Bard, like, man, we got Tom Hardy, so it's fine,
But I like Tom Javier would actually been a great Mad Max. I think
like putting him in that scenario, I'd love to see him with the shorter
hair on the road. But uh, you know, in another life,
I feel like he'd be like a silent mad Max like really doesn't say much
words, but no country for old men. I think with me, I
feel like we've had we've done this podcast for so long. I think we've
made this joke before that we yeah, that we said we'd love if we
just got an Anton Sugar movie, but in the Mad Max world where it's
just like fuck man, Like, I just like, how awesome that be,
Just this fucking brutal killer out there looking for oil. He's in the
Thunderdome. Oh he's the cattle fuck man. Like. Yeah, we've definitely
talked about this where that's like a dream. We need to make that movie,
but we can't use Danton Sugar. But we need to make We need
to because watching these one day, I want to make a post apotlyftic movie.
But we need to make a movie like that where it's like Anton Sugar
type of character in the world. He's a killer and he's just fucking out
there, because man, that would be something I just love to see the
car we have. Yeah, so we've definitely talked about this, but make
make the movie. George Miller, someone give them the right Santon Sugar and
get out there. So yeah, yeah, the kids stuff. I think
I'm the same as you guys where it's just like that definitely was like the
trailing off point. The movie's only like an hour forty six, so again,
these Mad Max movies aren't that long, but that's kind of where I
go, and I feel like that's the thing I always hear for Mad Max
fan ziel those fucking kids, right, Like exactly what Kurkland's opening was was
people always bring up these kids and like, fuck, it's funny because the
second one had children, and especially this faral child. Right. But I
think with them taking such a big role, probably the nomination of them and
the movie being PG. Thirteen, I can see people feeling like it is
like, oh like like more of a safe version. It's more kind of
mainstream, which I do understand. I should lok at the box obviously what
it did comparatively, but so it didn't ruin the movie. So I think
I'm in line with Taylor who did movie for me but definitely sewed it down.
But I think, you know, mel Gibson can be comedic, So
I did like some of his lines with these kids, and just I did
like him just being pissed off. So That's why I guess it kind of
worked for me in some aspects where like kirkha was described where you just get
annoyed by these kids. I think it helps that Max is annoyed by these
kids for majority of the time. Right, It's not like he gets adopted
and he's like, oh, I'm with these people. Let's kind of like
they're may be supposed to be a bit annoying. I'm not saying that's fun
to watch, because as we talked about with some of the villains in these
movies, they can be supposed to be annoying, and for me, it's
like, fuck, man, like I've had enough these bikers in the first
one, Like let's let's move along here, you know, Like I think,
like that's the right amount. I never need to see him again.
But uh yeah, there's some comedy in there, and I like, I
don't I think for me, the I I guess I kind of enjoyed it.
I don't know how much I enjoy the prophecy thing kind of in this
world. You know, there's lots of movies that do that idea of like
he could be like a chosen one or something like that, and I don't
know how much I need it here, I would have just minded maybe that's
where you could cut some of that down, just make him he's gonna help
these kids, and the kids are gonna help him, and they're gonna do
this and we're gonna get to the finale. But so I didn't mind it.
But it's not one of the higher parts. And I think the third
act least gets a little bit better with the action everything, and you know,
Mad Max is off on his own again, and I do like that
she had him dead rights Auntie, but because she did the gulag like she
moves on. I can't remember what she called. I think she says soldier
or road soldier, just like obviously in a road soldier, like just a
nice like again, she won't because that's what you know the man with no
name is. But I liked that ending of she was in the villa and
I was gonna like kill him for getting in trouble and getting in their way
and messing things up. Again, It's like, well, you got the
wheel and that's that's the deal, right, So I like that they still
carry through low systems even though Mad Max and the kids were kind of maybe
giving them some issues down the wad. And I mean the main thing too,
like they wanted Master, right, that was that was their whole goal
to get out there. They didn't care about anyone else. Yeah, yeah,
with the dull prophecy stuff. I feel like I was just I never
fully was sold on the fact that, like then like how do we get
here? And like like half the time these types of storylines work for me,
you know, like obviously coming off of Dune, like I think that's
just like a perfect killing of like the prophecy, like the chosen Ones coming,
but this one is just versus them making him the chosen one, right,
It's that it's like a perfect balance here where this is just like a
kind of an add on like and like they they've just been waiting for this
guy this whole time. Like I I guess that is the case. And
for some people that might work, but for me, it was just like
the second that he shows up, it's like, hey, it's time,
it's time to go now. But I don't know, like I don't know
why I had so much issues just palating it. Maybe because I just didn't
like all those characters to begin with, But for whatever reason, it just
didn't really work for me, and he's like shooting at them kind of like
really trying to make them stay and like really trying to sell that like he
is not this individual, but they just weren't really having it. And like
you were saying earlier, Travis, like he does kind of make some moves
that make it seem like he possibly is the chosen one, right, Like
he gets them on a plane, he leads them somewhere. They are kind
of better off for it by the end of the movie, I guess,
But just yeah, all of that stuff really just wasn't hitting too hard with
me in the right way. But did the ending save it for you?
The you know, we'll get a bit of the roade back where are you
guys on the road bat As far as like my take was, like I
was happy to have it. There was good, but I definitely don't feel
like it matched any of the first two or even coming up right. It
was very well executed, I would say, like just all of throughout all
these three movies, like all of the road battle stuff, it's just it's
so amazing what they're able to call push with the I guess they're just doing
dangerous stunts. That's how they're able to pull it off. But and obviously
that carries on for Feury Road. But yeah, that was I was so
happy with those like road battle scenes because early on in this movie, I
really didn't think we're gonna get like any road battles. I didn't think we're
gonna get like much vehicles at all. And that's why I was kind of
just bitter like kind of when we were in the middle act. I think
because I'm like, we're getting these fucking lost boy characters. We got like
super desert, no highways at all, Like there's no way that we're gonna
have certain vehicles. And in Bartertown, like they show off some vehicles kind
of foreshadowing I guess, like they show off that one truck thing that they
end up like mountain on the road the railroad tracks. So I was hoping
that we got to see that in action, which we did by the end.
So that kind of helped it a bit in my in my mind,
But I no, I don't think it was as top tier quality as maybe
the last two two movies were that poor Bastard that got what was it was
it? Killer that got it right through the leg The fucking harpoon thing,
Oh what happened to two? What about you? Taylor? With the third
act, and we finally got to bust out some vehicles, you know,
go back to the old days. You got to bust the vehicles. I
like that. I liked that it was it was on a train that was
really really cool. And I have to say the whole the train tracks were
in immaculate condition, the bridges, everything like that. The foundation was very
the rule the wasteland was all great, you don't touch the train tracks.
You needed to maintain it. Though they touch it, they have to maintain
it. Yeah, the one rule we've come to in this society. Please
let's work on the train tracks together. But I think it was I think
getting the road stuff again was great. I love that it felt classic Mad
Max and seeing Master just kind of like transition into this very well dressed man,
like his very well dressed suit and everything like that, and he had
like the certain artifacts and stuff from history that he's putting into his briefcase and
whatnot. So that was kind of interesting. But yeah, it's just obviously
an professor of some kind. But I think I think everything kind of getting
to that back half was was fun. And I think the timing of things
was really wonky. I don't know why this kid thought this is like hold
up at the end of the track and thought he was gonna have any sway
in the situation. Oh man, Like fuck the balls on that kid.
Yeah, and like no, he's just like a spear. That easily could
have been the end of him and his dad too, Like he just led
them all to like their secret hideout and that was equipped like the stuff in
there, that was a perfect place stay to abandon the whole thing because of
the Sun's fucking attempt to rob a whole train with with two machine guns or
whatever the hell you idiot kid, Absolutely idiot kid. And like the dad's
just reading a magazine in his room, like and you should be paying more
attention. Uh, absolutely fuck Like it's just brutal. But yeah, I
like to think that I'm sure the little area is going to be looted out
the wazoo by Auntie And I like to think that maybe they they don't slute
it right away. And Max goes there and gets some stuff or gets his
stuff back, and then yeah, he goes He looks like it much when
we're seeing it in the film though, he had that spear and a cloak
and it looked like that was it had no vehicles, nothing. He just
look like he's back on the like what's up to now? You know,
like where's he going now? Because he's just looking for work before, Like
I guess to get some sort of you know, grain woman water who knows,
But he's looking for work, so I guess he's still looking for He
didn't stay at the kid. It's a very happy about that curriculum. Yeah,
I mean, there's not another movie with Mad Max or sorry with mel
Gibson. So it's all final shot. It's just him with like ten of
the kids, and you're like, oh no, they're going to bring it
back in Furio. So Matt, what if Eurosa bumps of those kids though,
so George Miller, he could bring them back. It is possible,
I think, I hope not. I think the idea of Max just being
like this road warrior type guy that just kind of comes and goes, it's
it's a nice formula to have for these movies because it's not like it's not
like you have a lot of weight or like baggage going in from one movie
to the other. Like he's just going on another adventure. But like,
because I knew that this was the last mel Gibson when I wasn't really like
worried, like, oh no, what's gonna happen with these kids moving forward?
Uh So that didn't really cross my mind. It was more so just
oh, we're really, we're really having these characters for this whole movie.
Okay, they're gonna be here to stay for the run time of this one.
Mm hmm anything else, anything else is specifically shout out scenes characters because
I kind of talked about the ending of it. Then, like I said,
it satisfied the h the itch needed there. So they shared a lot
of pigs, and in this movie, I was pretty surprised with again just
how many real moving pigs they had in here. And I feel like the
movie Snatch made me just see pigs in a whole different light, and this
one again just highlighted how terrifying they can be, like when they're when they're
lowering Master and man, I felt, yeah, oh yeah. The noises,
the squeals this movie, like some of these Mad Max movies, can
be very very loud, and this one deaf only was in that category with
the kids just screaming, the pigs squealing. Yeah, two on those one
for forget. I love Master. I love when you meet him and he's
this little shit talking guy on top of blaster. He's just like, but
I love Right before he's about to get killed, he takes off his helmet
and he's like really concerned about his friend here, and he's like, oh,
he's just you know, he doesn't have the thoughts that we do.
Like. I like that they made him a little bit compassionate because then when
there when they do raise him the pigs, you feel somewhat bad for the
guy. This is the second part of me what you're talking about. Would
pigs eat you if you're like alive like that? Yeah, yeah, that's
a torture actually where you hang them and hang and they eat your legs while
they you're hung up on like a wall. I knew likethogs and stuff do
that because Hannibal they talk about there is like the certain those bigger pigs,
but I wasn't sure about these pigs. Luckily, these pigs look like they
weren't doing that because they definitely put some food on the second time. But
when they first lay loaded him down, like the pigs gave two ships about
the guy being there and they just walking around, But the second time they
must put some like feet on him or something. So I've heard a story
of like a farm worker they were like, I don't know, working on
something like a near pig pit, and they like fell and hit their head
and just got knocked out, and the pigs literally just ate them. Like
pigs are fucking crazy. They will eat anything. Have you heard about that
Canadian serial killer, the pig farmer? Of course, yes, for you
try to give me nightmares? Is he in Southern Canada? Southern Southern Canadians.
Man, you can't trust them, you know? So yeah, what
do you take? Oh, I'll just say, what do you guys think
about? Like that that pig killer guy and his little plan to put this
water on this monkey and send the monkey out on this huge quest. Very
bold, And I say that's the most plot armor I've ever seen anything.
You were going to ask about the cereal k because you're like, what do
you think about that pig killer guy? The cast tug about one of Canada's
was the tourist zeal like maybe a Brent Butter. We could talk about some
cereal Cilla, I think you had a reason do you have about childhood?
I think you're right bold plan, but like for some reason, that's why
I love in this movie, especially where we are now in the world,
that stuff all tracks like all these kooky, weird characters, like when we
talk about the first one where these bikers like they kind of fit a society
still running, like they're very over the top. Now the characters with their
plans, their motivations and how they act, none of it seems like even
the kids, Like for me, none of it seems out of the realm
possibility. What like the wasteland has done to the world. Right, So
fun little moment there. Not fun for Kirkling, he is hands on the
monkey plan before we end off, did you want to did you want to
talk about your favorite character? And some of the entire bar It just blew
my mind because I thought he was weird on next time costume, next the
mannequin head and the wig. But that part we do, I thought,
like, Okay, they really focused on the initiative, initiation, the trial,
I guess the addition where they were testing that Max we could survive when
they were trying to kill him at first when he was meeting Auntie, and
so following that, they just they focused on the collector, and then they
focused on iron Bar trying to climb back up over the ledge, and then
after that they really start focusing on iron Bar. I thought, Okay,
for sure he's gonna die because he fell on the vat of toxic pig shit.
But no, he seeps out and comes out, and then after that
you think that he like it just cut me off guard because they're using the
telescope and they look and you see everyone in cars. But do you know
how hard you have to haul ask to actually be pumping yourself on the tracks
to match the speed, like to match the speed of a train, and
then like match the speed of these cars. I don't know why he ditches
that and just jumps on a car anyways, after the fact that he just
had to exert or prove something. But he's on the car and then he
you think he dies on the front of the train when the train rams the
car. No, it cuts to him and he's on the front of this
little ramp on the train, just fucking screaming. And then he swings out
on the bar and he's just hanging there and just this scene where he lifts
and pulls himself up like multiple times over the Harar too. He's making a
point in his hands like burning, Like I'm rooting for this guy at this
point because it's like this is fucking incredible, Like that's a that's a fucking
endurance test right there. But he doesn't die after that. No, he
gets on another car. He falls off that bridge, and then we we
see him again driving the car. I think when ma Max is like like
starting to like dram towards him, and his ultimate death scene is he sticks
his hand out and does like the middle finger out, like this guy was
just fucking crazy man, and probably my favorite Max villains at this point.
Who's there for the cause? You know a lot of these people I feel
like we're really there for the cause, Like that one guy that decided to
the cars were getting separate or the tracks or whatever, and he like used
himself as a human like hook, like he like held on and he was
just like he had you were walking over. I was like, man,
these are some Dedicade soldiers here to be doing that. And I would just
love the down shots. I would love to see how they pulled it off.
It'd be like the shots from below they had a camera guy like below
him and you just see his face like in agony. Really enjoyed that.
We got some of those facial reactions too, and it wasn't like a close
up, so you knew that they had somebody doing something there because they always
doing these fucking movies. But yeah, I liked that portion as well.
Anything else, anything else to shout out before I list off any of this
particular trivia that I have left, and then our O four ratings. Once
from twice sold to the woman in the wit Gloves. Tina Turner had to
shave her head for her wig to fit properly. She probably had no problem
with that, so I go. Tina Turner shaved her whole head for this
so cool. The sandstorm at the end of the film was real and the
camera or sorry and a camera plane flew into it for some shots the storm
and it's entirely hit the crew in the desert facing them ride it out in
their cars and whatever they could find cover. So think about that. You're
making this movie, which I credit because we did that same thing with adrenal
Rome, and hopefully we'll get that stole back one day, but I love
that. There's a storm and they're like, hey, get in the plane,
get what you can, and then you get back. They're just like
hunkered down their cars anything they can't just to let this pass by. So
I can't do that. Would you get in the plane and director's telling you,
like, you just gotta fly to that fucking it's a mummy sandstorm?
Still I have right now, no skilled pilot. Let you know, take
instruments to like guide me. Yeah, okay, reframe it, Kirklin.
If let's say you had a pilot but he's like, I don't know how
to work a camera and you're the camera guy, would you take that so
you some draw and do the plane for your flying it. But you just
got to be in there to get the shot. Ooh uh? Is it?
Is it our movie? Like? Is it adrenal croun? Of course?
Hunter takes the desert? Fuck man. Maybe that's a un versus the
Mummy. You know what, Maybe that's our antone, sugar. Maybe we
a good Hunter in the fucking We gotta make a post apocalypseic movie. And
what happens to Hunter when he's out there? Fuck, but you gotta wears.
Yeah, but like it has to be like all tattered down everything right,
and you gotta have oh, we'll have Kirkling like big hair and it's
like falling out of the hood, you know. Oh yeah, yeah,
I was like skin in the game on the movie. I think I would
do it. I would really have to trust that pilot though. Yeah,
see I would not just because we got the kids, but also this was
made in kids, so yeah, this has made what the eighties and nineties
nowadays. The good thing is with that storm, I'd be like, hey,
Taylor, you know that fifty dollars trone you brought bought, could you
go fly to the store now and get r some shots like luckily if maybe
it won't be as great looking as Drone was never seen again, yeah,
or might fly away every time or my fly away. But for me,
I would say no, and I'd throw the drone out there. So we've
take a lot of risk for movies. But that one's like a different I
guess it depends the category of a storm, but that'd be to be in
a sandstorm in the sky for a shot, you know, So that's where
they're they're better than me. I guess I got it. That's one thing
between all these movies. When we've done the trivia and looked into it,
shout out to all these crews that worked on this movie, Like, I
don't know if there's any crews that took more risk and did more stuff than
the Mad Max stuff, because fuck man, there's all these stories and take
you to answer that, would you be in that copter again the shot?
Oh, I'd be there. Yeah, I'd definitely be there for sure.
It'd be worse to play flight similar enough, they could do both shoot and
do that. I'm not flying, I'm I'm taking the shot. No,
I've I've proven myself wrong. So you're gonna go down. You find if
that's what you go down, the plane crashes and you leave mass and setinae
or it'll be a damn good pilot flying that that plane, and the story
is worse when you lost the footage as well too, so you died for
nothing. The plane scares me more though, actually than the storm. That
plane didn't look like I mean, they're hanging out the side of that thing
and this little window like it just didn't look very safe. That's fair.
Max's eyes are different. The pupil in his left eyes permanently dilated. This
is not a road Warrior. When the car is forced off road and Max
crashes, he suffers an injury to among body parts, his left eye.
The this was easier showing close ups. I'm very easy to see in high
definition version of the film. In the regular version, it's prominent when Max
looks down at the Thunderdome or down on the thunder dome. So like the
little coll unity mature. Hey make sure I still fucked up? And it
was like I said, this was it was to a first PG. Thirteen
once there you go. Yeah, I just interjected he had a limp in
the second one because of his injury in the first movie, right, and
I swear held up here. Yeah, yeah, years years I mentioned it.
What did you guys feel about that deleted scene when you have been four
against We be happy they cut it? Or would you have liked the the
nightmare with his wife Jesse and his son Sprague which I don't know his name,
someone was Sprague, But there you go, s p r O G.
Fuck Man, leader of the Underworld. I am Spragu. That was
the big guy that he fought Blast was actually his son's Sprague. But was
that something you guys felt needed or were you fine with them cutting in.
Apparently they've released other versions, but it's not been on any DVD's special features
because the footage would missing and it got deleted. So it's one of those
like even if they want to show, it's just gone to time now.
So I'm okay with it being out. I don't think it would have added
too much. It's like, even even in the last movie, there's not
really any callbacks like to his family really, so just get those like quick
flashes at the beginning. So yeah, yeah, I don't I don't.
I don't need it, but I would be interested to see it, and
not by itself, but in the context of the movie. I watched this
movie again for sure, and I think that's when I would like to see
it in that context. But I definitely don't feel like I need it,
So yeah, I think that's where I mean that I would want it but
don't need it. It's very similar like we talked about the even though I'm
I've changed my mind with the Batman and Joker deleted scene where I actually want
in the film before, it's like, oh, I understand why they cut
it because it kind of slowed it down and we kind of get these points
by the Riddler. But it was a cool scene, So I'd have to
see the scene, like is it a nightmare really just him seeing his son
and wife on a road and they get hit, or it's like a really
cool well done like core graphed sort of, you know, cinematography wise,
So I guess i'd have to see it and go from there and see the
pacing of it. But finally, after this, George Miller had planned to
bring Mad Max to the small screen and start developing a television series based on
Mad Max. He would John Blake, whom he had worked with the Cool
Change, to star in the series. But John Blake's acting here sadly and
kind of ironically ended when he sustained a brain injury in an auto incident,
and the Mad Max series never got made, so there's not much details.
I don't know if you had been playing Max, I don't know if it
would have been I bet probably like Furiosa as we've seen now where he's doing,
you know, a Mad Max film that's not Mad Max. It's a
story, but I think there's I don't know if it would have been about
Thunderdome as well. But I do think there is a world where you could
make a Mad Max show work. And I don't know even if that's something
now he'd be wanting to because I think his ideas he's doing serial and then
one more Mad Max film. But even just like the Thunderdome, like I
said to me, I could see so many adventures and stories in there,
so I could see him having that idea of the world of the Wasteland having
stories, and I actually hope that's maybe something returned to today. I cannot
say Tom hardy On, Tayo, George, Charlie stir On, but I
would like to see again. My pitch would be like do a six episode
thing and have it like and almost anthology of different stories in the Wasteland.
So I don't know, I see potential in a show there. There's no
talk of it happening nowadays. But what about you, guys, do you
see something of the show where you think it's just better suit to stay in
the movies. No, I think it totally would make a potentially good show
just because of the world that they've established and just yeah, like you can
have locations like Bartertown, like out there and yeah, what else? Right?
You got endless potential with just kooky characters you can have in it.
Yeah, I think it's a great ip to pull from. Maybe that's our
calling. Maybe we got to pitch George will make the mad Max TV show.
You know, we already got Taylor and you guys will go take the
plane in the storms and stuff. We got this a great idea there,
we'll be in there Hunter. You know all the rights and we'll give you
the rights to Hunter. Let's make the show, George, please. I
I I think that it could. It could do well as a show.
I really do. Uh. And I think that just to be able to
expand and explore more of this world is something that they they should do.
And I'm happy to get the Furiosa movie. I think it's it looks wonderful.
I can't wait to see it. But again, it's just following that
similar kind of narrative. I feel like, just based on the trailers that
we've seen, and I guess this is world building and we'll get to see
more of where she comes from. So that's good. And maybe I'll just
hold on to more of my thoughts until I see it, because for all
I know, I could have more world building than what we've seen before,
but that's that's all I really want anyways in this universe. But with a
TV show, yeah they could, they could do more towns and everything like
that. I feel like border Lands not anything to do with the movie,
but the game itself has a good similarity to Mad Max. Of course,
it's much more kookier and crazier and alien and nature. But the way it's
set up with this wasteland, you got kookie characters, different kind of little
towns that you can go to. That feels to me very much like a
Mad Max equivalent than Sorts. So definitely there must be some inspiration there,
Like there's too many to me play parallels with, even just like the color
scheme of Borderlands is always like that orange desert Mad Max type of style.
Right, So, mister Batz or what would your final thoughts and ratings be
on this final thoughts? Yeah, this was a bit of a disappointment for
me a little bit. I think there's enough in here to make it passable
in my eyes, just just seeing more of like where the established world is
of Mad Max at this point, especially like being that first movie is what
like, right, kind of at the start of the apocalypse, second one
is a little bit deeper in it, and now it's even deeper so where
we actually have like a whole different societal structure. I do like the evolution
of it in that sense. It seems like the world is growing as these
movies are going along, and by the time you get to like Fury Road
and Furiosa. Yes, fearro So would be before Fury Road, but Fear
also could be made around this time though, like because we don't know how
long it goes into the future of past and she's younger, right, so,
and her macs are kind of like, I don't know, her macs
are pretty similar in age. I think Charlie's is like a little older than
like tomorrow in real life, so Fear also could be a similar touch point
timeline wise. So yeah, so, I although I don't like the Lost
Boy characters, there's a couple other issues I have in the in the film,
I still think it's although it feels a lot more different than the other
Mad Max films, I think it still is worthy of the Mad Max title.
In here, obviously you have the Mad Max himself, but also just
just some of the kookiness that these worlds have. It definitely stuck true to
that. For rating wise, I think I'll just give it like a like
a flat seven here, like like, oh that's how thought to be honest.
Yeah, like definitely. I think the more we were talking about it,
I was remembering more aspects I did really like, like the Thunderdome battle
that one hundred percent delivered. That's a pass right there. That seems in
a movie that you at least get a five out of ten. For me,
I can't fail movie with that. You know, when they're getting close
to the actual Thunderdome battle, I really thought it was just going to be
like a two minute you know, like somehow he tricks Blaster in order to
beat him, but he was really struggling there. He's trying to get his
whistle and he was just like stomping him into the ground. And it definitely
was an extended fight, and I am happy it was. I liked all
the aspect with Master Blaster and the fact that you had like the brains and
the brawn just making like the one unit. I like when they have characters
like that. Then Yeah, like the the the n Road battle, I
think was enough to really really boosted up a few points in my mind,
because if we didn't get that like this, this probably would have been close
to a fail, if not a fail in my eyes. But I'm really
happy that they had the vehicles in it, and yeah it was. It
was a nice satisfaction there, like that the Road Warrior isn't like tied down
anywhere. His legend is moving on. He's you know, he's going on
to the next task. I liked all that. But yeah, so just
like a barely making it, but it got there. A seven. Yeah,
I'm gonna go I'm gonna go eight, which I think I've given all
them eights. They're just like because I have cons for each of them,
I have pros for each of them, and then I have like I just
respect the hell of filmmakers for doing what they did in their journey on doing
these. So yeah, they're all kind of equal. I don't know where
I'm gonna do ranking wise, because I could have this as like my favorite
the trilogy. I could have Road Warrior. I guess it's probably not gonna
be one, I'll tell you that. So I don't know where it is.
I know my number one so it's just like the two and three.
It's like I really think, and then I guess we got fear gross too.
I'll have to rank when we see that, so I really don't know
where that's gonna fall into the thick things, hopefully number one or two.
So I really enjoyed. It does have some you know, uh, lesser
moments, but the highs were really high for me, and maybe some of
my highest of the series. Like I love the car you know, violence
and chases and everything, but I don't know if anything for me like actually
tops like the Thunderdome battle. I love that and the five and the build
up to it. So and that's just more of my stet because as I
said before, I'm not a big car guy, right, So that's just
stuff I just lean towards more as far as liking. So yeah, eight
out of ten for me for the Thunderdome Tearfields off, Yeah, it honestly
would go in out of ten as well. I enjoyed this one a lot.
I had a good time with it, and I enjoyed the characters,
and I'm glad that we got to see more of this world and get to
indulge in the Thunderdome. I think that choreography was great, A lot of
fun with that, and I think even then dabbling back into the classic car
racing chasing stuff like that, I think that was wonderful. So I think
this this did a good job in just tackling many different familiar things and new
things in the Mad Max universe. Again, I'm docking at points because I
think the kid's stuff was just not really javing for me, but that I
really did enjoy this movie and I could easily see myself rewatching it in the
future. Oh well, there you go, ladies and Jim and well,
next up is you know, of course we're doing it for Furio Son just
the whole series in general. But I feel like, you know, next
next episode is it's what we're here for. You know that that's the big
one that was came out. Yeah, it came out like before the podcast.
It started just that, so there's never any official review. But next
week we or whenever we record it, the next episode will be Mad Max
Fury Road. I think we're all excited to talk about that one. Yeah,
I think that's what the Wretch has been billing you. So we'll do
that and then right after that, it's uh furiosa, So we're getting close,
so it's gonna be a good time. So thank you very much for
tuning in. Let us know as always when you thought any questions, et
cetera, stuff like that, and propis you when we're at three year OW,
it'll for sure not be boring. Bye bye