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Hell, Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back, and welcome to the

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penultimate Mad Max Retrospective. Of course
we'll be doing the Furiosa, but that's

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not retrospective, that's a review that's
completely different. My name is the clown

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Prince of the Thunderdome Trust now,
and I'm joined by I am Tonton Kirk

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Patzer, the Master blaster Field.
Great poor names as well, Master blaster

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Tonton. You know Thunderdome. Yeah, we are here to talk about obviously

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Thunderdome, Mad Max Beyond the Thundered
on the third edition and final time.

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Actually, I guess for Mel Gibson
to appear as Mad Max, I'm assuming.

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I don't think he's gonna pop up
Furiosa. I guess you'd never know,

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but I'm gonna take the over and
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the hard that's a call. No, yeah, I think we're all from

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on that one. But yes,
this is directed by mad Max, or

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sorry, not by Mad Max,
directed by George Miller. And I gotta

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get the other guy's name because I'll
probably get that George Miller, same guy

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still, yeah, but he had
help on this one for a multitude reasons

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this. This one is like maybe
like I hit a few trivia stuff at

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the beginning, but this one's interesting
because we talked about this before. Where

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to direct another movie? Remember contact, They gave him the rights to Road

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Warrior and this movie districted by George
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I E Augilville. Am I saying
that right? George Ogiville Okaville Ogilville something

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George to George's the Devil George George
Square. Yeah, this one originally was

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not written. I could probably try
and find but this was not written as

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Mad Max movie originally. If I
can find it where Oh okay? Yeah,

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the film was not originally a Mad
Max film, but a post apocalyptic

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Lord of the Flies type of film
about a tribate children who are found by

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an adult. It became a third
Mad maxim when George Miller was suggested that

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Max is the man who finds the
children. So I'm assuming there was rewrites

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and Max took more of a bigger
role. I don't know if, like

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the beginning of the Thunderdome would be
the kids and everything like that, but

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it was written as nothing and that
happens all the time in Hollywood, you

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can look like Diehard three. That's
the same thing. That script originally is

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a script called Simon says, and
someone read and went, oh, this

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should be a Diehard movie, and
then they changed it. So happens all

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the time in Hollywood. Where's the
script and go, hey, we could

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put some ip on here. But
yeah, just to leave with some tribute

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from Beyond the Thunderdome was the first
mad Max film made without producer Brian Byron

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Kennedy. That's why he gets that
for Byron at the end there, who

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had been killed in the helicopter crash
in nineteen eighty three. George Miller was

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very hesitant to continue with without his
producing partner, saying later, I was

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reluctant to go ahead, and there
was a sort of I need to do

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something. Let's just get over the
shock and the grief of all, like

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I said this title card. He
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with George on a TV mini series, the other George Ogilville or whatever George

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Oh called the dismissal. He said
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had a lot of us played.
I asked my friend George, who was

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working on mini series. Could he
come and help me, But I don't

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remember the experience because I was just
doing it, you know, I was

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grieving. So it sounds like they
had this idea for the film, employed

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a group of workshopping rehearsal technique that
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sounds like he's going through tough time
where at first like I don't know if

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I want to do it, and
then they were like, ah, fuck

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it, let's just do it,
let's do it for him, let's get

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over let's work on something together.
And then it's sound like when he started

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he was like this is too much
for me, and not a bad It

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just sounds like it was just like
going through a tough time, just losing

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his friend, right, so good
on, I'm smart to be like,

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I need some help with this one, and he hit up this guy that

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he trusted. So sad story that
you know that all happened. But that's

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why George Miller has a co directing
and that's why there's say I said,

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between the production of this wasn't a
mad Max film too. They didn't know

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if they were gonna make it.
The back and forth d director not that

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it was like development help, but
just like it went through lots of iteration

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and things. I'm sure even more
than reported and stuff. But yeah,

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what do you think Taylor about this
film? Because I feel like this is

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a very different Mad Max film.
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it, because I don't think enough
it's like massive bad Max with the franchise

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fans. But I feel like most
people always put this as like always the

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bottom and they talk not poorly of
it, but it always feels like it's

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definitely like the third. Is that
the case for you? I know we're

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not doing full rankings or did you
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it is a very different type of
story, but you still got Max,

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you still got the Wasteland, you
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It's just like a lot of the
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kind of disappear or has disappeared from
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a change. And yeah, I've
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never saw maybe this one before either. I only saw the original initially,

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right, and that obviously the Fury
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existing knowledge in this film was great
and actually enjoyed it. I did,

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and I don't know where if I
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over number two. But wow,
that's big because number two. Everyone's always

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like, that's that's the big one, except I like number two a lot.

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But I love this one. I
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felt different. It didn't feel like
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and I like that. You know, these movies are so heavily focused on

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just the car chases and whatnot,
and I appreciate that that was just like

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a small portion of this and they
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seen before, like a big oil
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in this case, it is something
different and I appreciate that. Uh.

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The characters I really enjoyed, and
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they had going on here, and
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in the world of just this the
wasteland. It was. It was really

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interesting. But I got confused though, because wasn't that this pilot the same

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pilot from the second one, And
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but he like, what what's what's
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the leader of those other guys.
They said he's still good, right,

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He doesn't say he's not. He's
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And even Max, like he does
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gonna fly the thing. But there's
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him? Like I because I thought
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I thought it was the same actor, different role, which is kind

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of funny because he's a pilot again, Like it's so let me. It

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just didn't really make sense why Max
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like maybe you can make dergyman.
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you're a pilot, like you're gonna
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expecting more of interaction between those two. I don't know which we learned in

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between from now. We didn't talk
was the last review, but we learned

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that guy has been in a bunch
of stuff and he was like, he

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what's that alien in Revenge Stiff Taylor, He's that guy. He was the

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from you the Palen guy. Yeah, he's that guy. What was the

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other guy he was too? There
was another mouth of sour on. Yeah,

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he's the fucking mouth of sourn what
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I did, and there's another one
there. But I was just like I

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couldn't see that. I couldn't believe
this. That's why there's some good with

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Twitter. It was like this trending
tweet and it's like, oh my god,

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this guy like that we just talked
about in Mad Max. He's Mouse

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sour On, He's that guy from
you Gotta Go Like, he's the guy

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he's the alien that speaks to Obi
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great here and then he whispers like, no, what're fucked? Like,

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help us out. So that's cool, man, But I'm working on the

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name still, so but yeah,
I just think it was It was nice.

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The only thing that I felt was
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was when he was in this little
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all that stuff. I didn't really
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how they based this whole belief system
that they had on Captain uh, what

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was his name, Captain the Max
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the fact that, yeah, the
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that they tell the stories that the
stories can be told again in the future.

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Whatnot I got. There's a lot
of that I didn't care for,

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but then there was some stuff that
I appreciated. But I was mostly just

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engaged in what was going on in
Bartertown and the story that they created,

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this dilemma between someone who controls the
underworld and then this person who wants to

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control it all from up above,
and how it just kind of falls apart.

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So in Road Warrior, Bruce Spence
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plays the Gyro captain no name,
and then in thunder Note he plays Jedediah,

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So could be different or it could
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one he's given no name. He's
just the Gyro captain, so you could

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learn his name is Jedediah. Right, So I really don't know. We've

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talked about this before where the villain
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a more than Joe and whatever,
and Fury Roads George Miller does this,

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so I really don't know, but
it is all that he plays like another

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pilot, So I don't know.
For me, it's like I didn't know

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which way to go because they interact
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like it's been five years too,
right, so it's like if that's the

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only time they've seen each other,
who knows. But yeah, it was

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a non choice there, But overall
they liked the movie teither. Overall,

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I like the movie Yeah, mister
Pats or what about you? Yeah,

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first time diving into the Thunderdome.
Here, this one definitely over the other

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two. I think it feels the
most different, probably because we're in like

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well, I was gonna say we're
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good chunk of this movie, but
I guess the second film we are too.

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They kept going back to that fucking
sight lin. Yeah, so I

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guess that's I don't know, there's
somewhat of a comparison there, but just

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for whatever reason, this one feels
the most different. But yeah, I

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did not like this one as much
as I was maybe hoping to. I

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quite like the first two films,
but this one it just seemed like a

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notable step down for me. I
think Taylor's assessment that it is it does

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feel like an anthology film, I
think that's accurate. But unfortunately here it

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just it just didn't really work too
much because I think the adventure just wasn't

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as like just gripping for me all
of the stuff with the kids. I

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just really did not like pretty much
all of that, and that's a big

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chunk of the story. So I
feel like I peaked my interest when they're

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in Bartertown and just like the little
classism stuff going on there, like the

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hierarchy of have like who's running Bartertown. Some of that was fun. But

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the more we stuck, the more
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the more we stayed in Bartertown,
I'm just like, man, I just

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want to be on the road.
I just want to see some crazy,

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high octane action and not be confined
to this one location, even though we

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are getting some pretty crazy, wacky
characters and just just some wild post apocalyptics

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stuff going on, because I think
I was interested in the idea of going

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to like a set place that they
actually have, like like this is this

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is like a big town in the
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everyone's bartering, like there's there's like
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All that stuff is interesting to me
on paper, but just when I

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got it, I wasn't really satisfied
with it too much. And yeah,

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just like the lost Children wherever we're
calling them, they're they're just so annoying

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to me. They just kept like
hooting and hollering and screaming and mel Gibson,

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I guess Max this film. Multiple
times he's like, just shut up,

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shut stop making that. And I'm
like, yeah, that's how I

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feel right now. So you would
have been like Max, he was like,

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there's no tomorrow. This is life
and fucking such deal then move on.

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That's Kurt going he as kids.
He was like, he's like,

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we're gonna stay here, Like he's
just like doctrinating himself into the into the

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village of these people, which I
guess that's a choice. I didn't.

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I didn't think he would fully stay. I think he was just meant like

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the overall, we like, it's
just better if we do this now,

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like like he's she's shrying it,
which fits mad Max, right. He's

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like pessimistic. He's like this,
yeah, there's there's no fucking fairy tale.

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There's no like prophecy or anything like
you got your kids are fucked,

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deal with it. One of the
best things for me that happened in this

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movie was when what's your Face chopped
off Melkibson's hair and he had the short

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hair going forward. I was not
liking that the long locks that he had.

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It just yeah, did not look
great. But yeah, yeah the

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first time. I feel like,
I feel like I've just seen this on

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cable multiple times in my life over
the time, and I feel like maybe

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it was because it was the lesser
of the Mad Max. Maybe it was

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like easier to get the rights to. And it's also I have the trivia,

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so we might not have much trivia
because I'm thrown on out here.

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This is the first Mad Max was
PG. Thirteen in the States. That

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could probably be another reason why I
actually probably saw on TV a bunch because

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which makes sense. So yeah,
it's I feel like it's much like it's

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a little out of order, but
maybe it can be closer to Tayta like

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in the Apes remake that I do
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people would not. I think I
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two and then you get Fury Road. I can see if you are a

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diehard mad Max fan and this was
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while, maybe you were pissed because
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like all those movies are based around
vehicles and roads, where I actually like

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the choice of that being the final
battle, like you're building up to,

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Oh, you're finally gonna get back
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that even as a road battle,
I don't think it compares to any of

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the ones in one and two.
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then, but it's still is kind
of like a fun like Okay, we'll

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save it for the finale. But
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to get to Fury Road. Fearer
Road just fucking feels like a combination of

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all three of these movies. It
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this one feels much more like the
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like we get introduction to water being
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know there's more like water and milk
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the idea of liquids and like stuff
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Like in the second one is all
about gasoline and oil, right, but

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this is just like, hey,
I can get you some fucking water,

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like a huge like fuck yeah,
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one, two, and three all
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to them in Furior Road and that's
where this felt like too. We see

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one of the people that have like
the white painting that's not the exact same

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as like Nicholas Holton, oh man, what is their name again? There's

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something boys in the Furiy Road.
We'll get there, but you know what

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I'm talking about right there, like
the Nasty Boys, you know what I'm

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talking about where they're they had.
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that type of societies and groups together
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and stuff that Fury Road has.
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just characters in here. I love
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the first too, but I think
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give you the kids at time,
they're little grading, but I mean more

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of the adults where we got some
wild characters. But sometimes in those first

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ones, man, it's like fuck, like I can only watch these characters

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for so long and it's grading on
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that here. Uh, Tina Turner
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sure looking spicy in the movie.
I love all the outfits and the designs.

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I love that it's like done the
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before the Apocalypse, Mad two was
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like the Apocalypse. But now you
see people that are like high raining in

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the Apocalypse, so they look like
a little nicer even though they still kind

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of look like shit. It's like, oh, this is considered to be

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like top tier in the Apocalypse,
Like if you look like this. Yeah,

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And I just think some of the
humor worked for me my fucking highlight.

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And I didn't remember the scene as
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I fucking loved the fight Mad Max
had in the fucking dome that like

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I was, I fucking loved it. I had that epiphan tub up many

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times where I've ridden like a truck
a treatment I went looked over and I'm

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like, oh, fuck it.
Death was inspired by this movie. I

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didn't have my characters on rubbers,
but like, I loved that whole set

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piece. I loved everything around it. Yeah, I was surprisedly because I

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had not seen this in a while, so I did not have enough an

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opinion BI like, oh, is
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also I have to say I'm not
a cars guy, so that has to

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play into it. But I understand
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could maybe understand more criticism than I
still do. To extend because it's kind

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of you got the four. I
agree with you. It's like a nice

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like oh, it's a nice like
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of a lot of the video game
too, because on the video game you

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get like a lot of you're on
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So no, this, I surprisedly
liked it, and I liked it

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a lot more than I thought I
would. And even stuff like Kirkland's right,

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like even the long hair, like
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like Michael Keaton flash they do it. But some about here, I'm like,

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I dug it. I liked the
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It's like all the things usually I
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was digging here, so which is
funny because like he gets the cut and

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then he's like completely gray. If
if Tom Harry is supposed to be him,

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I don't know how he like magically
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brown hair. But that's okay,
maybe it's another time. So well,

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yeah, let's talk about the Thunderdome
and let's talk about uh uh, just

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that idea and Tina Turner in the
society there and everything. What do you

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guys think about fucking like, I
don't know where thunder done because I know

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as a song who came first ac
DC or this? So I managed in

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ac DC, right, Thunderdome either
way, just a fucking badass title like

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Beyond the Thunderdome, Like that's cool, Like I want a fucking bar called

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the Thunderdome, you know. But
yeah, yeah, what do you guys

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think of just that location and all
the characters we meet there? Max,

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It's just kind of he's just looking
for work right now. That's what I

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love. We pick up he's still
just wandering the desert. I fucking love

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the line and the guys like I'm
looking for work. He's like, well,

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sorry, the brothels full. It's
like, oh man, what a

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great like, what a great fucking
line. Just to stick it to him

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like there's nothing and then all he
could do is a whore and we've got

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enough of those, So yeah,
good stuff. I think the peak of

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the movie for me was definitely like
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after that would have been just kind
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we just never really seen a place
like this up until this point where it's

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just like fully established and seeing the
trading going on, seeing seeing the sleazy

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salesman they're selling you know, airports
fresh water that's completely not something mat.

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I just love how like cycle he
was too after he pulls out like the

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radiation detector and he's like ah,
then he just saunders off like just trying

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to get like another victim selling his
tainted water. Just just totally fucked up.

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like all of that. I did

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like the line that you mentioned,
you know, no work or the brothels

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falls so that you can't get work, and just yeah, like just seeing

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Turner's character, I feel like it
was just such a unexpected turn of events

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of what was going on, Like
when he goes up there and you just

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have Tonton on the saxophone, just
like just shredding playing some some soft jazz.

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Nice call back to the first one, right with mad Max. Remember

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when he had he was playing his
wife the Sacks. Remember that random scene

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I thought about, Yeah when he
just like we meet Max and his bust

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on the Sacks or like fuck he
Max on Sacks and I thought of that.

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But yeah, yeah, no,
so all of that stuff was was

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really interesting, and just I thought
it did a good job at kind of

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just setting like the playing field of
like this is this movie, this is

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our plane area that these are some
of the main head hitters. So yeah,

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I I like the introduction of barter
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the middle act is just the weakest
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but like when they like the kids
adduct him and it's like finding Neverland or

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like he's pretty much just like leading
the Lost Boys, know exactly, like

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like it was, and then like
obviously the name being Thunderdome, I was

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curious when that was gonna come up. So when they when they mentioned thunder

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Dome and it's literally just the Colisseum, you know, like gladiator fight to

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the Death, I thought that was
really exciting and I agree with you.

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I thought, I thought that whole
scene was really well done, fantastic choreography

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with like the fuckinges and everything,
and I want to be flipping around in

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there man like Gez like a Toby
fighting fucking bonesaw. And I got the

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same idea because I was like,
this is what they must have been thinking,

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like how does he using these ropes? But yeah, Matt fucking the

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stunt man and mel Gibson, not
that they had look but they could have

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played fucking venom or play venom like
I'm assuming mel Gibson wasn't doing backflips in

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the cage, but like they did
a good job. But whenever they would

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swap between the two, the hair
was smart. I don't know if the

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hair was a choice of like let's
have that in the script or if they

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specifically gave him the hair just for
that. If it was for a stunt,

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very smart because it's like a tuke
of like, you can't see shit

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when mel is flipping around whoever it
is. I imagine some of those bigger

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flips were probably not him. But
at the same time, it did look

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like a soup, like it just
looked like a harness. Well you could

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use it like some sort of fun
arcade like place that we go like all

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Siddenly there's those places where it's like
you strap up and they like do the

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air and you're like flying right,
Like I feel like it would be safe

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enough and it's not like you're following
a huge height if something were to happen.

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It's like I feel like I feel
like the times mel was in those

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fucking cars in the first two are
way more dangerous than anything they're doing with

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these rubber bands. So no,
I just want to do that. It's

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like, man, I want a
place where you could have like fake fights

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and to be jumping around and like
whether it be like you know, like

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a paintball thing, Like I want
to be strapped up moving around like you

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know, something like that like paintballs. Maybe like a like a like a

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flag football, but it's like you
have to pull the flag from someone's pants

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like that sort of deal, Like
that would be fun. I just saw

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this, like, man, I
want someone to make the thunder doome right

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now. You got you gotta suit
it up. You got all the people

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waiting their turn watching like fuck yeah, I could have took the whole movie

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in the thunder Dome, be honest, like if they would have just had

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Mad Max that going through a mortal
combat tournament of all these people, which

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also when they took the mask off
and the guy had special needs, I

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that was just the whole thing.
But at one point I thought they're trying

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to allude to that being the guy
from the first movie. Yeah, yeah,

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but then I don't think they were, because he just said, like,

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this wasn't part of the deal.
Like I think MAXs didn't want to

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hurt someone like that, even though
this guy clearly capable because he kicked the

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ship Max for a lot of the
time. But again, he has moral

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code, So I appreciate it a
big like conspiracy thought, like people kind

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of like theorize that it is.
But a lot of people I was looking

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at that, they're saying like,
no, don't it's not Why did that's?

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No? Don't again, like why
couldn't it be Yeah, it'd be

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fine. We don't see what happens
that character in the first one, right,

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but yeah, the Mad Max fan
of me, like I said,

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when we talk about in the Road
War, where a lot of people think

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that Tom Hardy's Max is actually like
this the fair old kid, Like,

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there's a lot of fun little fan
theories they have about the universe, and

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I like that. It's kind of
like Bond where people go like, Hey,

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what's your favorite type of Bond?
Is it each guy? Is it

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a reboot or is it each guy
is getting like the James Bond name and

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it's his story. Like I like
that when it's like, oh, you

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could be cause to me, I
would almost prefer this to be that guy

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because I think it's like it's a
long like because we don't see much of

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Max's life, Like that's the crazy
thing, like I have it in my

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trivia there have no trivia left.
They at one point deleted a scene where

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he did have a nightmare about his
son and his wife. But as we

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talk about Road Warrior in this,
you really don't need to watch any of

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that, So I almost would appreciated
that, but I would I wouldn't have

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mind them tying that back to the
first movie being that same character, because

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you get so little of Mad Max's
personal life from that first one. It

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doesn't even feel like it existed.
Sometimes, you know, m what do

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you think about the opening to him? Yeah, I think Buttertown is a

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really really cool place and this is
one of the highlights for me, and

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just seeing everyone trying to bring their
stuff to trade and whatnot. The one

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guy that was in there with the
collectors say it's either two hours of the

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woman or like a bag of grain. And I don't know what did he

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take. I think he took a
woman. We never heard what he took.

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I was curious. I'm like,
is he really gonna go for the

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woman for two hours? That's a
long time. I know grain, but

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two hours long time? An hours? Yeah, it's gonna be I guess

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if he's gonna die, you know, Like do I want to beg a

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grain or go out swinging? Yeah? Yeah, But I think overall it

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was it's a very cool area.
And I in the they built this whole

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foundation of choosing Underworld as pig ship
to methane to funnel their fuel sources and

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whatnot. Just it's it's a cool
concept. It's very post apocalyptic. I

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think the set th is meat and
I like how there's just this hierarchy of

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characters that are all here. And
yeah, I think just the the whole

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belief of like the law that they
have with the Thunderdome was really really cool.

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I liked I liked it a lot. The fight scene was really really

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awesome, and I think that them
just jumping around was neat. The people

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all all on top of the cage
holding the weapons that they can jump up

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and rab too was knee There's just
so much really really cool stuff that they

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were doing with that that I can
appreciape that I just visually. I just

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loved it. I love seeing Max
just like smoothly, just crisply glide over

406
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,279
Blaster as Blaster is like trying to
like swipe them and take them down,

407
00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:41,839
and even the chainsaw like running out
of gas and stuff. There's just so

408
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:45,759
many humorous little things that they added
in here too. The chainsaw is one

409
00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:49,079
of the watchers accidentally, because yeah, I can't remember if it's Blaster Max,

410
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,319
but somebody has and they charged with
the chainsaw and they move and then

411
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,640
when the spectator just gets fucking sawed
quickly, you know, yeah, it's

412
00:24:56,759 --> 00:25:00,519
dangerous, dangerous sport, that's for
sure. But even after that kind of

413
00:25:00,519 --> 00:25:06,599
failed, they brought out to like
the Thunderdome wheel or wherever whatever it was,

414
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,039
which I got something here. I'm
gonna I'm gonna do for you guys.

415
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:11,400
You guys each get to spin this
this wheel. I put all the

416
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,759
things on there from you. Still
I'm literally have no trivia. That was

417
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:18,039
another tribute point of what was on
the wheel. Can at least tell the

418
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,480
listeners what's on the wheel before.
So we got acquittal, and that's like,

419
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:26,640
you're relieved of all your accusations.
He got this because he didn't kill

420
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,599
the people, right he was supposed
to kill him. That's the loss he

421
00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:33,400
has this. So goolgs just like
you go to the wheel or whatever.

422
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:37,519
Yeah, so googlogs just you get
sent out to live for yourself, right,

423
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,480
Like, good luck there? What
image did you? That's iron bar?

424
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:48,319
There is not that any of our
wives and girlfriends would be a perfect

425
00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:52,039
but man, we should do like
a mad Max themed party one year.

426
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,480
No one would want to do it, but I'm like, that's a tail

427
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,119
that's gonna do. He's gonna do. This fucking guy with iron bar was

428
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,680
the highlight of this fucking movie.
He just would not fucking I can't wait

429
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,240
to talk about them. But so, yeah, we have a goolog and

430
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,119
then we have Antie's choice, which
we know, okay, she gets to

431
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,200
pick obviously, and then life imprisonment, which self explanatory that that's probably the

432
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,240
that might be the worst one.
I don't know, that might be the

433
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,960
worst amputations. You might have a
chance, Like what would you take amputation

434
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:27,839
or life sentence. I'd take life
sentence last for sure. Yeah. Probably.

435
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,200
But what did they get to pick
what they're amputating? What did they

436
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,519
just do this, you dick out? I think so they pulled der dick?

437
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,119
Did you jump to your dick out? I feel like they're gonna pick

438
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,920
one of the worst things. I
don't need to Oh, they're gonna pick

439
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,240
I thought you said you were picking. You just said, like our amputation

440
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:45,200
and just whips his dick out,
like, yeah, this can go,

441
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,279
dude, I'll take the grain wheels
not even stop spinning yet, You're like,

442
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:56,519
I'm gonna take the dick. I
know. We got Underworld, which

443
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,279
I'm assuming it's like what Matt Max
is doing. All those other people that

444
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:03,039
were on there aimed up shoveling ship. Yeah, shovel and ship. It's

445
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,359
not sh death is probably is that
better than life in prisonment one of the

446
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,880
better options. I think on here
it sucks when like there's because what there's

447
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,680
going free there's goolog and death.
It sucks to me that those are probably

448
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,079
the top three. Death is like
to me above maybe not, I guess,

449
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,240
not amputation, I guess I'll do
that. Oh, I guess four

450
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:23,799
foot Goods. That's not too bad
either, I guess. Actually, even

451
00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:26,440
though that could you could just go
out there and get killed, right,

452
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,920
gun's gone. That's just drama though. Your anxiety is through the fucking room.

453
00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:34,319
Yeah yeah, but uh yeah,
so death. Yeah, four foot

454
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:37,279
Goods, as you said, spin
again. And that hard labor, which

455
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,640
is that I feel like that's just
like oh underworld or it's like, yeah,

456
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:48,000
it's less in prison corner the yeah, hard labor. Yeah, and

457
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:49,480
see this is stuff like before you
spent, Like, this is the stuff

458
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:52,000
I was really liking, like the
world building them, interest in will and

459
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:55,240
having all these things. That's why
it's like, man, I could take

460
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,960
a TV show of multiple people,
like just different mass, different characters getting

461
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:03,559
and seeing what they were like,
Yeah, I loved it. But al

462
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:07,480
right, who's going first? Who
wants to be spun first? I'll take

463
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,599
going, you're spinning it? Here
you go, Kirkland, he wants that

464
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:19,920
hard labor already there with the hautation. Oh you're free. Oh my god.

465
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,359
Hell yeah, wow, well done, Kirkland free. I'll see you

466
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,160
guys later. Yeah you're oh god
damn. All right, all right,

467
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,839
here we go, Travis, you're
up next. Fuck. I don't like

468
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:36,519
this. Get two acquittals in a
row. No, no, no,

469
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:44,200
there's no way going to the lost
boys with kids already you're on the horse.

470
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,160
I mean the kids. Are the
kids finding you? I guess they

471
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,599
would, well they do. It's
great. It's gonna be like here when

472
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:52,839
they're just fucking the wild three ladies. I can figure it out. Think

473
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,160
waste of a fucking horse. I
think that's what I thought you. I

474
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,160
thought, like, man, that's
a healthy horse right there. That there,

475
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:06,400
just just sending to death. Like
yeah, okay, we got what

476
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:17,880
do we got for me? Death? That's the positive ones, right,

477
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:22,319
I think me and but me Kirkle
got the better ones out atop that.

478
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:26,960
You know, son, meet up
for sure, we can meet up Phil

479
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,240
Rendezvus and save you. It's a
kid. I'll pick over my horse.

480
00:29:30,359 --> 00:29:32,559
I'll have a horse once I get
out there. I'll bring the Yeah,

481
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,440
I'll bring the kids. Krook.
I'm being oh fuck, but h yeah,

482
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:37,680
No, I don't have much saying
something I've said sprinkled, But yeah,

483
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,039
at the beginning, the first act
is my favor, which I think

484
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:44,279
is like almost are rarety of movies. I feel like it's like the middle

485
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:45,920
or end, like the first act, you're just getting introedduced to things.

486
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,000
But I said before, I love
the world building. I love this being

487
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:55,799
like a now functioning apocalypse. It's
like a rebuilding and now what's gonna happen,

488
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:57,119
which is great. I know it's
at the end, but I fucking

489
00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:00,839
love when they do get in the
copter and because I got a budget and

490
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:03,079
we've seen little things, but for
the first time ever, we go back

491
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:07,559
and see what the world looks like
now, like the cities and everything,

492
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:11,599
how they're just it's the disaster zone. Buildings are taken down, they're toppled.

493
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,279
Like I really love that. So
seen blade. Yeah, exactly right.

494
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:18,359
So but no, I love the
opening I said, I love the

495
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,480
Thunderdome. I love Auntie. I
love that she kind of had like a

496
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,160
like a tough but little sexual flirting
with Max. I love that they had

497
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,839
like an understanding. But we're you
know, Max was still mad, but

498
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,920
he was still going with the laws, like I loved everything. Like I

499
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,240
said, I I don't think I
disliked the Last Boys as much as Kirkling.

500
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:37,079
I think they're definitely lower and I
did like the finale. But I

501
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:40,720
think there's a movie of this that's
The Thunderdome the full way that I'm like,

502
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,839
this is one of my favorite movies
of all time because I just loved

503
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:45,720
and that's a movie like my treatment
is like that. It's like I'm not

504
00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:47,960
getting into it, but like the
whole movie is out of like just this

505
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:52,160
town whatnot. And I loved everything
they did there and that fight, man,

506
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,880
that's that's a reason I'm really glad
we did that retro because I think

507
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,799
I remember this fight, but I
did not remember it being this high level

508
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:02,839
of really enjoying it. And that's
something that I feel like, that's a

509
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,000
scene I would just put on in
the future, like YouTube, and just

510
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,680
like I want to see Max flipping
around fighting the sky chainsaw a spike,

511
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:12,119
like it's such a cool location and
idea and I love that they pulled it

512
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:17,960
off. So but yeah, we
transition. Kirk or how do you feel

513
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,279
about because I think you've talked a
little bit how you feel about the kids

514
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,960
and the prophecy. And we meet
Max and he's in the Dazer. He

515
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,759
survives the goolag. He's walking out
there and he meets these young ands and

516
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:32,720
they think he's something else because they
find this drawing and they've made this drawing

517
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,079
which looks identical to him. So
it's hard for Max to be like,

518
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,680
that's not me. But like,
what do you think about all this stuff?

519
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,880
Did you argue with kirkla and that
brought the movie down a lot for

520
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,240
you? I feel like it not
a lot, but it definitely pulled me

521
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,559
out of it a little bit.
I would have liked to have seen more

522
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:52,039
of the Buttertown stuff going on than
really here. But I mean, it's

523
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:56,519
cool to see that this place was
kind of like a safe haven. What

524
00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:05,480
town Buttertown? But yeah, that's
the adjacent too much bread one leader of

525
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:07,400
butter or two hours with a woman? What do you want? Can I

526
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,720
have both? Give me both?
I can use use it, use the

527
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,359
butter Yeah, yeah, but I
I think it definitely was getting a little

528
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,519
crazy. But at the same time
it makes sense. You're gonna have people

529
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:22,480
creating their own kind of belief systems
and religions, and in this case,

530
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,599
you got this downed plane that they're
they're all praising and I'm trying to understand

531
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,799
the storyline. So you have these
the the kids of the descendants of this

532
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,519
captain and of this the family,
the parents that all went out there,

533
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:36,880
I guess, to get on a
plane and the plane crashed or something like

534
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,400
that, and they're thinking that Mad
Max is gonna make this this fucked up

535
00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:45,440
piece of ship plane crash fly,
which it does. Put them on a

536
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,279
plane, I guess, so they
get it counts right. It's that weird

537
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:51,599
type of prophecy thing, like like
you said, religious where someone will happen

538
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:54,319
and it's like did it happen because
it is like fore toll or did it

539
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:58,240
happen in this weird way? And
now people say, see, I told

540
00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:07,519
you you know these that it's written. Fuck, I'd love to see hobbyar

541
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:10,079
Bard, like, man, we
got Tom Hardy, so it's fine,

542
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:16,039
But I like Tom Javier would actually
been a great Mad Max. I think

543
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:19,720
like putting him in that scenario,
I'd love to see him with the shorter

544
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,319
hair on the road. But uh, you know, in another life,

545
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,119
I feel like he'd be like a
silent mad Max like really doesn't say much

546
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:35,680
words, but no country for old
men. I think with me, I

547
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,799
feel like we've had we've done this
podcast for so long. I think we've

548
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:45,079
made this joke before that we yeah, that we said we'd love if we

549
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,480
just got an Anton Sugar movie,
but in the Mad Max world where it's

550
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,680
just like fuck man, Like,
I just like, how awesome that be,

551
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:57,200
Just this fucking brutal killer out there
looking for oil. He's in the

552
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,839
Thunderdome. Oh he's the cattle fuck
man. Like. Yeah, we've definitely

553
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:06,079
talked about this where that's like a
dream. We need to make that movie,

554
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:08,159
but we can't use Danton Sugar.
But we need to make We need

555
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:12,440
to because watching these one day,
I want to make a post apotlyftic movie.

556
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,760
But we need to make a movie
like that where it's like Anton Sugar

557
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:19,880
type of character in the world.
He's a killer and he's just fucking out

558
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,400
there, because man, that would
be something I just love to see the

559
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,840
car we have. Yeah, so
we've definitely talked about this, but make

560
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,719
make the movie. George Miller,
someone give them the right Santon Sugar and

561
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,920
get out there. So yeah,
yeah, the kids stuff. I think

562
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,159
I'm the same as you guys where
it's just like that definitely was like the

563
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,880
trailing off point. The movie's only
like an hour forty six, so again,

564
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,840
these Mad Max movies aren't that long, but that's kind of where I

565
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,480
go, and I feel like that's
the thing I always hear for Mad Max

566
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,639
fan ziel those fucking kids, right, Like exactly what Kurkland's opening was was

567
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,800
people always bring up these kids and
like, fuck, it's funny because the

568
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,719
second one had children, and especially
this faral child. Right. But I

569
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,159
think with them taking such a big
role, probably the nomination of them and

570
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:04,760
the movie being PG. Thirteen,
I can see people feeling like it is

571
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,760
like, oh like like more of
a safe version. It's more kind of

572
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,199
mainstream, which I do understand.
I should lok at the box obviously what

573
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,719
it did comparatively, but so it
didn't ruin the movie. So I think

574
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,800
I'm in line with Taylor who did
movie for me but definitely sewed it down.

575
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,159
But I think, you know,
mel Gibson can be comedic, So

576
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:24,800
I did like some of his lines
with these kids, and just I did

577
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,599
like him just being pissed off.
So That's why I guess it kind of

578
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:30,880
worked for me in some aspects where
like kirkha was described where you just get

579
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,159
annoyed by these kids. I think
it helps that Max is annoyed by these

580
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,719
kids for majority of the time.
Right, It's not like he gets adopted

581
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,519
and he's like, oh, I'm
with these people. Let's kind of like

582
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,159
they're may be supposed to be a
bit annoying. I'm not saying that's fun

583
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,159
to watch, because as we talked
about with some of the villains in these

584
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:46,480
movies, they can be supposed to
be annoying, and for me, it's

585
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:49,559
like, fuck, man, like
I've had enough these bikers in the first

586
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,440
one, Like let's let's move along
here, you know, Like I think,

587
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:53,679
like that's the right amount. I
never need to see him again.

588
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:58,480
But uh yeah, there's some comedy
in there, and I like, I

589
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:01,280
don't I think for me, the
I I guess I kind of enjoyed it.

590
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,199
I don't know how much I enjoy
the prophecy thing kind of in this

591
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,719
world. You know, there's lots
of movies that do that idea of like

592
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,440
he could be like a chosen one
or something like that, and I don't

593
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,000
know how much I need it here, I would have just minded maybe that's

594
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,920
where you could cut some of that
down, just make him he's gonna help

595
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,480
these kids, and the kids are
gonna help him, and they're gonna do

596
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:22,440
this and we're gonna get to the
finale. But so I didn't mind it.

597
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,320
But it's not one of the higher
parts. And I think the third

598
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,679
act least gets a little bit better
with the action everything, and you know,

599
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,519
Mad Max is off on his own
again, and I do like that

600
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:37,880
she had him dead rights Auntie,
but because she did the gulag like she

601
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,480
moves on. I can't remember what
she called. I think she says soldier

602
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:43,159
or road soldier, just like obviously
in a road soldier, like just a

603
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,679
nice like again, she won't because
that's what you know the man with no

604
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,159
name is. But I liked that
ending of she was in the villa and

605
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:52,840
I was gonna like kill him for
getting in trouble and getting in their way

606
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,760
and messing things up. Again,
It's like, well, you got the

607
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,559
wheel and that's that's the deal,
right, So I like that they still

608
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,960
carry through low systems even though Mad
Max and the kids were kind of maybe

609
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:05,559
giving them some issues down the wad. And I mean the main thing too,

610
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:07,840
like they wanted Master, right,
that was that was their whole goal

611
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:14,320
to get out there. They didn't
care about anyone else. Yeah, yeah,

612
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,920
with the dull prophecy stuff. I
feel like I was just I never

613
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,760
fully was sold on the fact that, like then like how do we get

614
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,440
here? And like like half the
time these types of storylines work for me,

615
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:30,079
you know, like obviously coming off
of Dune, like I think that's

616
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:34,800
just like a perfect killing of like
the prophecy, like the chosen Ones coming,

617
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:37,079
but this one is just versus them
making him the chosen one, right,

618
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:39,559
It's that it's like a perfect balance
here where this is just like a

619
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,679
kind of an add on like and
like they they've just been waiting for this

620
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,519
guy this whole time. Like I
I guess that is the case. And

621
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:50,679
for some people that might work,
but for me, it was just like

622
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,719
the second that he shows up,
it's like, hey, it's time,

623
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,800
it's time to go now. But
I don't know, like I don't know

624
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,599
why I had so much issues just
palating it. Maybe because I just didn't

625
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:01,599
like all those characters to begin with, But for whatever reason, it just

626
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:06,920
didn't really work for me, and
he's like shooting at them kind of like

627
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,599
really trying to make them stay and
like really trying to sell that like he

628
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:15,079
is not this individual, but they
just weren't really having it. And like

629
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:19,960
you were saying earlier, Travis,
like he does kind of make some moves

630
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,840
that make it seem like he possibly
is the chosen one, right, Like

631
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,599
he gets them on a plane,
he leads them somewhere. They are kind

632
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:30,519
of better off for it by the
end of the movie, I guess,

633
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:36,599
But just yeah, all of that
stuff really just wasn't hitting too hard with

634
00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:38,000
me in the right way. But
did the ending save it for you?

635
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,119
The you know, we'll get a
bit of the roade back where are you

636
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:44,639
guys on the road bat As far
as like my take was, like I

637
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:45,599
was happy to have it. There
was good, but I definitely don't feel

638
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:50,800
like it matched any of the first
two or even coming up right. It

639
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,760
was very well executed, I would
say, like just all of throughout all

640
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,159
these three movies, like all of
the road battle stuff, it's just it's

641
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:00,760
so amazing what they're able to call
push with the I guess they're just doing

642
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:06,000
dangerous stunts. That's how they're able
to pull it off. But and obviously

643
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:12,119
that carries on for Feury Road.
But yeah, that was I was so

644
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:15,960
happy with those like road battle scenes
because early on in this movie, I

645
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,559
really didn't think we're gonna get like
any road battles. I didn't think we're

646
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:21,159
gonna get like much vehicles at all. And that's why I was kind of

647
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:22,679
just bitter like kind of when we
were in the middle act. I think

648
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,880
because I'm like, we're getting these
fucking lost boy characters. We got like

649
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,440
super desert, no highways at all, Like there's no way that we're gonna

650
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,920
have certain vehicles. And in Bartertown, like they show off some vehicles kind

651
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,239
of foreshadowing I guess, like they
show off that one truck thing that they

652
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,559
end up like mountain on the road
the railroad tracks. So I was hoping

653
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:45,840
that we got to see that in
action, which we did by the end.

654
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,280
So that kind of helped it a
bit in my in my mind,

655
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,039
But I no, I don't think
it was as top tier quality as maybe

656
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:59,800
the last two two movies were that
poor Bastard that got what was it was

657
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,920
it? Killer that got it right
through the leg The fucking harpoon thing,

658
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,960
Oh what happened to two? What
about you? Taylor? With the third

659
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,280
act, and we finally got to
bust out some vehicles, you know,

660
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,599
go back to the old days.
You got to bust the vehicles. I

661
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:17,079
like that. I liked that it
was it was on a train that was

662
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:21,880
really really cool. And I have
to say the whole the train tracks were

663
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,440
in immaculate condition, the bridges,
everything like that. The foundation was very

664
00:40:24,559 --> 00:40:28,960
the rule the wasteland was all great, you don't touch the train tracks.

665
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:31,880
You needed to maintain it. Though
they touch it, they have to maintain

666
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:36,760
it. Yeah, the one rule
we've come to in this society. Please

667
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,239
let's work on the train tracks together. But I think it was I think

668
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,760
getting the road stuff again was great. I love that it felt classic Mad

669
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,960
Max and seeing Master just kind of
like transition into this very well dressed man,

670
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,559
like his very well dressed suit and
everything like that, and he had

671
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:58,920
like the certain artifacts and stuff from
history that he's putting into his briefcase and

672
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,480
whatnot. So that was kind of
interesting. But yeah, it's just obviously

673
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:07,199
an professor of some kind. But
I think I think everything kind of getting

674
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,599
to that back half was was fun. And I think the timing of things

675
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:13,320
was really wonky. I don't know
why this kid thought this is like hold

676
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,880
up at the end of the track
and thought he was gonna have any sway

677
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,360
in the situation. Oh man,
Like fuck the balls on that kid.

678
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,920
Yeah, and like no, he's
just like a spear. That easily could

679
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,199
have been the end of him and
his dad too, Like he just led

680
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:30,119
them all to like their secret hideout
and that was equipped like the stuff in

681
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:34,039
there, that was a perfect place
stay to abandon the whole thing because of

682
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:37,400
the Sun's fucking attempt to rob a
whole train with with two machine guns or

683
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,039
whatever the hell you idiot kid,
Absolutely idiot kid. And like the dad's

684
00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:45,239
just reading a magazine in his room, like and you should be paying more

685
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,880
attention. Uh, absolutely fuck Like
it's just brutal. But yeah, I

686
00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:53,079
like to think that I'm sure the
little area is going to be looted out

687
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:59,119
the wazoo by Auntie And I like
to think that maybe they they don't slute

688
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:00,559
it right away. And Max goes
there and gets some stuff or gets his

689
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:04,679
stuff back, and then yeah,
he goes He looks like it much when

690
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:06,840
we're seeing it in the film though, he had that spear and a cloak

691
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,679
and it looked like that was it
had no vehicles, nothing. He just

692
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,280
look like he's back on the like
what's up to now? You know,

693
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,280
like where's he going now? Because
he's just looking for work before, Like

694
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,519
I guess to get some sort of
you know, grain woman water who knows,

695
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:21,320
But he's looking for work, so
I guess he's still looking for He

696
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,880
didn't stay at the kid. It's
a very happy about that curriculum. Yeah,

697
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,800
I mean, there's not another movie
with Mad Max or sorry with mel

698
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,000
Gibson. So it's all final shot. It's just him with like ten of

699
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:34,960
the kids, and you're like,
oh no, they're going to bring it

700
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,239
back in Furio. So Matt,
what if Eurosa bumps of those kids though,

701
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,679
so George Miller, he could bring
them back. It is possible,

702
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,880
I think, I hope not.
I think the idea of Max just being

703
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:50,960
like this road warrior type guy that
just kind of comes and goes, it's

704
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:53,880
it's a nice formula to have for
these movies because it's not like it's not

705
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,800
like you have a lot of weight
or like baggage going in from one movie

706
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,920
to the other. Like he's just
going on another adventure. But like,

707
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:05,079
because I knew that this was the
last mel Gibson when I wasn't really like

708
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:07,039
worried, like, oh no,
what's gonna happen with these kids moving forward?

709
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,800
Uh So that didn't really cross my
mind. It was more so just

710
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,320
oh, we're really, we're really
having these characters for this whole movie.

711
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,800
Okay, they're gonna be here to
stay for the run time of this one.

712
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,880
Mm hmm anything else, anything else
is specifically shout out scenes characters because

713
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,960
I kind of talked about the ending
of it. Then, like I said,

714
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,880
it satisfied the h the itch needed
there. So they shared a lot

715
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,920
of pigs, and in this movie, I was pretty surprised with again just

716
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,639
how many real moving pigs they had
in here. And I feel like the

717
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:44,599
movie Snatch made me just see pigs
in a whole different light, and this

718
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:46,800
one again just highlighted how terrifying they
can be, like when they're when they're

719
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:53,239
lowering Master and man, I felt, yeah, oh yeah. The noises,

720
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,519
the squeals this movie, like some
of these Mad Max movies, can

721
00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:00,280
be very very loud, and this
one deaf only was in that category with

722
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,960
the kids just screaming, the pigs
squealing. Yeah, two on those one

723
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,639
for forget. I love Master.
I love when you meet him and he's

724
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:12,119
this little shit talking guy on top
of blaster. He's just like, but

725
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:14,480
I love Right before he's about to
get killed, he takes off his helmet

726
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,519
and he's like really concerned about his
friend here, and he's like, oh,

727
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:19,480
he's just you know, he doesn't
have the thoughts that we do.

728
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,159
Like. I like that they made
him a little bit compassionate because then when

729
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:24,199
there when they do raise him the
pigs, you feel somewhat bad for the

730
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,400
guy. This is the second part
of me what you're talking about. Would

731
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,719
pigs eat you if you're like alive
like that? Yeah, yeah, that's

732
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,039
a torture actually where you hang them
and hang and they eat your legs while

733
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:37,880
they you're hung up on like a
wall. I knew likethogs and stuff do

734
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,559
that because Hannibal they talk about there
is like the certain those bigger pigs,

735
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:43,880
but I wasn't sure about these pigs. Luckily, these pigs look like they

736
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,400
weren't doing that because they definitely put
some food on the second time. But

737
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,559
when they first lay loaded him down, like the pigs gave two ships about

738
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:52,840
the guy being there and they just
walking around, But the second time they

739
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,400
must put some like feet on him
or something. So I've heard a story

740
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,480
of like a farm worker they were
like, I don't know, working on

741
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:01,519
something like a near pig pit,
and they like fell and hit their head

742
00:45:01,559 --> 00:45:04,880
and just got knocked out, and
the pigs literally just ate them. Like

743
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:07,840
pigs are fucking crazy. They will
eat anything. Have you heard about that

744
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:14,199
Canadian serial killer, the pig farmer? Of course, yes, for you

745
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,840
try to give me nightmares? Is
he in Southern Canada? Southern Southern Canadians.

746
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,360
Man, you can't trust them,
you know? So yeah, what

747
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,800
do you take? Oh, I'll
just say, what do you guys think

748
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,079
about? Like that that pig killer
guy and his little plan to put this

749
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,440
water on this monkey and send the
monkey out on this huge quest. Very

750
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:38,159
bold, And I say that's the
most plot armor I've ever seen anything.

751
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:45,639
You were going to ask about the
cereal k because you're like, what do

752
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:52,039
you think about that pig killer guy? The cast tug about one of Canada's

753
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,639
was the tourist zeal like maybe a
Brent Butter. We could talk about some

754
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,760
cereal Cilla, I think you had
a reason do you have about childhood?

755
00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:05,440
I think you're right bold plan,
but like for some reason, that's why

756
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,840
I love in this movie, especially
where we are now in the world,

757
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,440
that stuff all tracks like all these
kooky, weird characters, like when we

758
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,480
talk about the first one where these
bikers like they kind of fit a society

759
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:16,719
still running, like they're very over
the top. Now the characters with their

760
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,639
plans, their motivations and how they
act, none of it seems like even

761
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:23,039
the kids, Like for me,
none of it seems out of the realm

762
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:27,280
possibility. What like the wasteland has
done to the world. Right, So

763
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:34,880
fun little moment there. Not fun
for Kirkling, he is hands on the

764
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,559
monkey plan before we end off,
did you want to did you want to

765
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:45,400
talk about your favorite character? And
some of the entire bar It just blew

766
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,400
my mind because I thought he was
weird on next time costume, next the

767
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,159
mannequin head and the wig. But
that part we do, I thought,

768
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:57,800
like, Okay, they really focused
on the initiative, initiation, the trial,

769
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,440
I guess the addition where they were
testing that Max we could survive when

770
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,519
they were trying to kill him at
first when he was meeting Auntie, and

771
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:07,519
so following that, they just they
focused on the collector, and then they

772
00:47:07,559 --> 00:47:10,199
focused on iron Bar trying to climb
back up over the ledge, and then

773
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,679
after that they really start focusing on
iron Bar. I thought, Okay,

774
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,599
for sure he's gonna die because he
fell on the vat of toxic pig shit.

775
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,320
But no, he seeps out and
comes out, and then after that

776
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,599
you think that he like it just
cut me off guard because they're using the

777
00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:30,599
telescope and they look and you see
everyone in cars. But do you know

778
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,400
how hard you have to haul ask
to actually be pumping yourself on the tracks

779
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,880
to match the speed, like to
match the speed of a train, and

780
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:42,000
then like match the speed of these
cars. I don't know why he ditches

781
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:44,719
that and just jumps on a car
anyways, after the fact that he just

782
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:50,559
had to exert or prove something.
But he's on the car and then he

783
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,199
you think he dies on the front
of the train when the train rams the

784
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,039
car. No, it cuts to
him and he's on the front of this

785
00:47:55,159 --> 00:48:01,159
little ramp on the train, just
fucking screaming. And then he swings out

786
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:06,239
on the bar and he's just hanging
there and just this scene where he lifts

787
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,280
and pulls himself up like multiple times
over the Harar too. He's making a

788
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,239
point in his hands like burning,
Like I'm rooting for this guy at this

789
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,400
point because it's like this is fucking
incredible, Like that's a that's a fucking

790
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:22,960
endurance test right there. But he
doesn't die after that. No, he

791
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:25,639
gets on another car. He falls
off that bridge, and then we we

792
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,239
see him again driving the car.
I think when ma Max is like like

793
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,599
starting to like dram towards him,
and his ultimate death scene is he sticks

794
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:38,000
his hand out and does like the
middle finger out, like this guy was

795
00:48:38,159 --> 00:48:43,800
just fucking crazy man, and probably
my favorite Max villains at this point.

796
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,679
Who's there for the cause? You
know a lot of these people I feel

797
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,559
like we're really there for the cause, Like that one guy that decided to

798
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,000
the cars were getting separate or the
tracks or whatever, and he like used

799
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:58,920
himself as a human like hook,
like he like held on and he was

800
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,000
just like he had you were walking
over. I was like, man,

801
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:06,159
these are some Dedicade soldiers here to
be doing that. And I would just

802
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,599
love the down shots. I would
love to see how they pulled it off.

803
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,840
It'd be like the shots from below
they had a camera guy like below

804
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,119
him and you just see his face
like in agony. Really enjoyed that.

805
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:19,280
We got some of those facial reactions
too, and it wasn't like a close

806
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,360
up, so you knew that they
had somebody doing something there because they always

807
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,840
doing these fucking movies. But yeah, I liked that portion as well.

808
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,039
Anything else, anything else to shout
out before I list off any of this

809
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:37,639
particular trivia that I have left,
and then our O four ratings. Once

810
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,480
from twice sold to the woman in
the wit Gloves. Tina Turner had to

811
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:45,159
shave her head for her wig to
fit properly. She probably had no problem

812
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,559
with that, so I go.
Tina Turner shaved her whole head for this

813
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,880
so cool. The sandstorm at the
end of the film was real and the

814
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:57,800
camera or sorry and a camera plane
flew into it for some shots the storm

815
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,320
and it's entirely hit the crew in
the desert facing them ride it out in

816
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,639
their cars and whatever they could find
cover. So think about that. You're

817
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:07,159
making this movie, which I credit
because we did that same thing with adrenal

818
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,400
Rome, and hopefully we'll get that
stole back one day, but I love

819
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,400
that. There's a storm and they're
like, hey, get in the plane,

820
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,519
get what you can, and then
you get back. They're just like

821
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:20,039
hunkered down their cars anything they can't
just to let this pass by. So

822
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:22,559
I can't do that. Would you
get in the plane and director's telling you,

823
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:27,519
like, you just gotta fly to
that fucking it's a mummy sandstorm?

824
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:31,800
Still I have right now, no
skilled pilot. Let you know, take

825
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:36,440
instruments to like guide me. Yeah, okay, reframe it, Kirklin.

826
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:38,079
If let's say you had a pilot
but he's like, I don't know how

827
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:40,519
to work a camera and you're the
camera guy, would you take that so

828
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:44,039
you some draw and do the plane
for your flying it. But you just

829
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:49,280
got to be in there to get
the shot. Ooh uh? Is it?

830
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,559
Is it our movie? Like?
Is it adrenal croun? Of course?

831
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,760
Hunter takes the desert? Fuck man. Maybe that's a un versus the

832
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,760
Mummy. You know what, Maybe
that's our antone, sugar. Maybe we

833
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:02,480
a good Hunter in the fucking We
gotta make a post apocalypseic movie. And

834
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,800
what happens to Hunter when he's out
there? Fuck, but you gotta wears.

835
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,159
Yeah, but like it has to
be like all tattered down everything right,

836
00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:13,880
and you gotta have oh, we'll
have Kirkling like big hair and it's

837
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,239
like falling out of the hood,
you know. Oh yeah, yeah,

838
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,239
I was like skin in the game
on the movie. I think I would

839
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,840
do it. I would really have
to trust that pilot though. Yeah,

840
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,039
see I would not just because we
got the kids, but also this was

841
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:30,920
made in kids, so yeah,
this has made what the eighties and nineties

842
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,360
nowadays. The good thing is with
that storm, I'd be like, hey,

843
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:37,039
Taylor, you know that fifty dollars
trone you brought bought, could you

844
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:40,599
go fly to the store now and
get r some shots like luckily if maybe

845
00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:45,480
it won't be as great looking as
Drone was never seen again, yeah,

846
00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:50,760
or might fly away every time or
my fly away. But for me,

847
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,639
I would say no, and I'd
throw the drone out there. So we've

848
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,440
take a lot of risk for movies. But that one's like a different I

849
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,440
guess it depends the category of a
storm, but that'd be to be in

850
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,079
a sandstorm in the sky for a
shot, you know, So that's where

851
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:07,800
they're they're better than me. I
guess I got it. That's one thing

852
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,280
between all these movies. When we've
done the trivia and looked into it,

853
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:13,159
shout out to all these crews that
worked on this movie, Like, I

854
00:52:13,199 --> 00:52:15,599
don't know if there's any crews that
took more risk and did more stuff than

855
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:17,239
the Mad Max stuff, because fuck
man, there's all these stories and take

856
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,360
you to answer that, would you
be in that copter again the shot?

857
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,599
Oh, I'd be there. Yeah, I'd definitely be there for sure.

858
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:25,639
It'd be worse to play flight similar
enough, they could do both shoot and

859
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,320
do that. I'm not flying,
I'm I'm taking the shot. No,

860
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,280
I've I've proven myself wrong. So
you're gonna go down. You find if

861
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,159
that's what you go down, the
plane crashes and you leave mass and setinae

862
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:43,159
or it'll be a damn good pilot
flying that that plane, and the story

863
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,719
is worse when you lost the footage
as well too, so you died for

864
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,719
nothing. The plane scares me more
though, actually than the storm. That

865
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,159
plane didn't look like I mean,
they're hanging out the side of that thing

866
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,480
and this little window like it just
didn't look very safe. That's fair.

867
00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:00,639
Max's eyes are different. The pupil
in his left eyes permanently dilated. This

868
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,880
is not a road Warrior. When
the car is forced off road and Max

869
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,320
crashes, he suffers an injury to
among body parts, his left eye.

870
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:13,239
The this was easier showing close ups. I'm very easy to see in high

871
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,119
definition version of the film. In
the regular version, it's prominent when Max

872
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,920
looks down at the Thunderdome or down
on the thunder dome. So like the

873
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,199
little coll unity mature. Hey make
sure I still fucked up? And it

874
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,760
was like I said, this was
it was to a first PG. Thirteen

875
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,519
once there you go. Yeah,
I just interjected he had a limp in

876
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:35,599
the second one because of his injury
in the first movie, right, and

877
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,559
I swear held up here. Yeah, yeah, years years I mentioned it.

878
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:44,679
What did you guys feel about that
deleted scene when you have been four

879
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,159
against We be happy they cut it? Or would you have liked the the

880
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:51,000
nightmare with his wife Jesse and his
son Sprague which I don't know his name,

881
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:53,440
someone was Sprague, But there you
go, s p r O G.

882
00:53:53,880 --> 00:54:00,440
Fuck Man, leader of the Underworld. I am Spragu. That was

883
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:04,519
the big guy that he fought Blast
was actually his son's Sprague. But was

884
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:06,800
that something you guys felt needed or
were you fine with them cutting in.

885
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,000
Apparently they've released other versions, but
it's not been on any DVD's special features

886
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,800
because the footage would missing and it
got deleted. So it's one of those

887
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,400
like even if they want to show, it's just gone to time now.

888
00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:22,519
So I'm okay with it being out. I don't think it would have added

889
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:25,639
too much. It's like, even
even in the last movie, there's not

890
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:30,320
really any callbacks like to his family
really, so just get those like quick

891
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:37,559
flashes at the beginning. So yeah, yeah, I don't I don't.

892
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,639
I don't need it, but I
would be interested to see it, and

893
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,719
not by itself, but in the
context of the movie. I watched this

894
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,519
movie again for sure, and I
think that's when I would like to see

895
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:51,800
it in that context. But I
definitely don't feel like I need it,

896
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,679
So yeah, I think that's where
I mean that I would want it but

897
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:58,239
don't need it. It's very similar
like we talked about the even though I'm

898
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,639
I've changed my mind with the Batman
and Joker deleted scene where I actually want

899
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,480
in the film before, it's like, oh, I understand why they cut

900
00:55:04,519 --> 00:55:06,920
it because it kind of slowed it
down and we kind of get these points

901
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,280
by the Riddler. But it was
a cool scene, So I'd have to

902
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,440
see the scene, like is it
a nightmare really just him seeing his son

903
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:15,559
and wife on a road and they
get hit, or it's like a really

904
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,679
cool well done like core graphed sort
of, you know, cinematography wise,

905
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,119
So I guess i'd have to see
it and go from there and see the

906
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:25,559
pacing of it. But finally,
after this, George Miller had planned to

907
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:30,159
bring Mad Max to the small screen
and start developing a television series based on

908
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,320
Mad Max. He would John Blake, whom he had worked with the Cool

909
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,800
Change, to star in the series. But John Blake's acting here sadly and

910
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,079
kind of ironically ended when he sustained
a brain injury in an auto incident,

911
00:55:40,639 --> 00:55:44,880
and the Mad Max series never got
made, so there's not much details.

912
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:45,599
I don't know if you had been
playing Max, I don't know if it

913
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:50,159
would have been I bet probably like
Furiosa as we've seen now where he's doing,

914
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:52,039
you know, a Mad Max film
that's not Mad Max. It's a

915
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:55,000
story, but I think there's I
don't know if it would have been about

916
00:55:55,039 --> 00:56:00,800
Thunderdome as well. But I do
think there is a world where you could

917
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,559
make a Mad Max show work.
And I don't know even if that's something

918
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:06,840
now he'd be wanting to because I
think his ideas he's doing serial and then

919
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,000
one more Mad Max film. But
even just like the Thunderdome, like I

920
00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:12,840
said to me, I could see
so many adventures and stories in there,

921
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,519
so I could see him having that
idea of the world of the Wasteland having

922
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:22,760
stories, and I actually hope that's
maybe something returned to today. I cannot

923
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,800
say Tom hardy On, Tayo,
George, Charlie stir On, but I

924
00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:28,880
would like to see again. My
pitch would be like do a six episode

925
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,159
thing and have it like and almost
anthology of different stories in the Wasteland.

926
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,920
So I don't know, I see
potential in a show there. There's no

927
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:37,760
talk of it happening nowadays. But
what about you, guys, do you

928
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,800
see something of the show where you
think it's just better suit to stay in

929
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:45,800
the movies. No, I think
it totally would make a potentially good show

930
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:51,239
just because of the world that they've
established and just yeah, like you can

931
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,960
have locations like Bartertown, like out
there and yeah, what else? Right?

932
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:59,639
You got endless potential with just kooky
characters you can have in it.

933
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,159
Yeah, I think it's a great
ip to pull from. Maybe that's our

934
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,639
calling. Maybe we got to pitch
George will make the mad Max TV show.

935
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:09,719
You know, we already got Taylor
and you guys will go take the

936
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,320
plane in the storms and stuff.
We got this a great idea there,

937
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,039
we'll be in there Hunter. You
know all the rights and we'll give you

938
00:57:15,079 --> 00:57:20,440
the rights to Hunter. Let's make
the show, George, please. I

939
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:22,239
I I think that it could.
It could do well as a show.

940
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,039
I really do. Uh. And
I think that just to be able to

941
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:30,639
expand and explore more of this world
is something that they they should do.

942
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,920
And I'm happy to get the Furiosa
movie. I think it's it looks wonderful.

943
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,679
I can't wait to see it.
But again, it's just following that

944
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,239
similar kind of narrative. I feel
like, just based on the trailers that

945
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,519
we've seen, and I guess this
is world building and we'll get to see

946
00:57:45,559 --> 00:57:46,639
more of where she comes from.
So that's good. And maybe I'll just

947
00:57:47,159 --> 00:57:52,519
hold on to more of my thoughts
until I see it, because for all

948
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:53,880
I know, I could have more
world building than what we've seen before,

949
00:57:54,039 --> 00:57:58,760
but that's that's all I really want
anyways in this universe. But with a

950
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:01,599
TV show, yeah they could,
they could do more towns and everything like

951
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:06,119
that. I feel like border Lands
not anything to do with the movie,

952
00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:10,280
but the game itself has a good
similarity to Mad Max. Of course,

953
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:15,679
it's much more kookier and crazier and
alien and nature. But the way it's

954
00:58:15,679 --> 00:58:17,679
set up with this wasteland, you
got kookie characters, different kind of little

955
00:58:17,719 --> 00:58:21,679
towns that you can go to.
That feels to me very much like a

956
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:28,320
Mad Max equivalent than Sorts. So
definitely there must be some inspiration there,

957
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,039
Like there's too many to me play
parallels with, even just like the color

958
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:36,519
scheme of Borderlands is always like that
orange desert Mad Max type of style.

959
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:42,159
Right, So, mister Batz or
what would your final thoughts and ratings be

960
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:49,199
on this final thoughts? Yeah,
this was a bit of a disappointment for

961
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,760
me a little bit. I think
there's enough in here to make it passable

962
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:58,760
in my eyes, just just seeing
more of like where the established world is

963
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:04,039
of Mad Max at this point,
especially like being that first movie is what

964
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,159
like, right, kind of at
the start of the apocalypse, second one

965
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,679
is a little bit deeper in it, and now it's even deeper so where

966
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,239
we actually have like a whole different
societal structure. I do like the evolution

967
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,800
of it in that sense. It
seems like the world is growing as these

968
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:22,599
movies are going along, and by
the time you get to like Fury Road

969
00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:28,039
and Furiosa. Yes, fearro So
would be before Fury Road, but Fear

970
00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:30,000
also could be made around this time
though, like because we don't know how

971
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:34,159
long it goes into the future of
past and she's younger, right, so,

972
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,320
and her macs are kind of like, I don't know, her macs

973
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,519
are pretty similar in age. I
think Charlie's is like a little older than

974
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:45,880
like tomorrow in real life, so
Fear also could be a similar touch point

975
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:52,440
timeline wise. So yeah, so, I although I don't like the Lost

976
00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:57,280
Boy characters, there's a couple other
issues I have in the in the film,

977
00:59:57,599 --> 01:00:01,159
I still think it's although it feels
a lot more different than the other

978
01:00:01,199 --> 01:00:05,480
Mad Max films, I think it
still is worthy of the Mad Max title.

979
01:00:05,519 --> 01:00:07,800
In here, obviously you have the
Mad Max himself, but also just

980
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:13,199
just some of the kookiness that these
worlds have. It definitely stuck true to

981
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,400
that. For rating wise, I
think I'll just give it like a like

982
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:22,280
a flat seven here, like like, oh that's how thought to be honest.

983
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:25,480
Yeah, like definitely. I think
the more we were talking about it,

984
01:00:25,719 --> 01:00:30,599
I was remembering more aspects I did
really like, like the Thunderdome battle

985
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:34,480
that one hundred percent delivered. That's
a pass right there. That seems in

986
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:36,880
a movie that you at least get
a five out of ten. For me,

987
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:38,760
I can't fail movie with that.
You know, when they're getting close

988
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,519
to the actual Thunderdome battle, I
really thought it was just going to be

989
01:00:42,639 --> 01:00:46,599
like a two minute you know,
like somehow he tricks Blaster in order to

990
01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:50,440
beat him, but he was really
struggling there. He's trying to get his

991
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,239
whistle and he was just like stomping
him into the ground. And it definitely

992
01:00:54,679 --> 01:00:59,519
was an extended fight, and I
am happy it was. I liked all

993
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:02,840
the aspect with Master Blaster and the
fact that you had like the brains and

994
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,639
the brawn just making like the one
unit. I like when they have characters

995
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:13,800
like that. Then Yeah, like
the the the n Road battle, I

996
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:16,760
think was enough to really really boosted
up a few points in my mind,

997
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,440
because if we didn't get that like
this, this probably would have been close

998
01:01:20,519 --> 01:01:23,119
to a fail, if not a
fail in my eyes. But I'm really

999
01:01:23,159 --> 01:01:27,800
happy that they had the vehicles in
it, and yeah it was. It

1000
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,079
was a nice satisfaction there, like
that the Road Warrior isn't like tied down

1001
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:34,079
anywhere. His legend is moving on. He's you know, he's going on

1002
01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:37,440
to the next task. I liked
all that. But yeah, so just

1003
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:42,440
like a barely making it, but
it got there. A seven. Yeah,

1004
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,679
I'm gonna go I'm gonna go eight, which I think I've given all

1005
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,800
them eights. They're just like because
I have cons for each of them,

1006
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,039
I have pros for each of them, and then I have like I just

1007
01:01:52,159 --> 01:01:54,480
respect the hell of filmmakers for doing
what they did in their journey on doing

1008
01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:58,400
these. So yeah, they're all
kind of equal. I don't know where

1009
01:01:58,639 --> 01:02:01,119
I'm gonna do ranking wise, because
I could have this as like my favorite

1010
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:04,880
the trilogy. I could have Road
Warrior. I guess it's probably not gonna

1011
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,239
be one, I'll tell you that. So I don't know where it is.

1012
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,400
I know my number one so it's
just like the two and three.

1013
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:12,760
It's like I really think, and
then I guess we got fear gross too.

1014
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,719
I'll have to rank when we see
that, so I really don't know

1015
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,199
where that's gonna fall into the thick
things, hopefully number one or two.

1016
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:22,480
So I really enjoyed. It does
have some you know, uh, lesser

1017
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:25,280
moments, but the highs were really
high for me, and maybe some of

1018
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:29,960
my highest of the series. Like
I love the car you know, violence

1019
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,400
and chases and everything, but I
don't know if anything for me like actually

1020
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:37,480
tops like the Thunderdome battle. I
love that and the five and the build

1021
01:02:37,559 --> 01:02:38,800
up to it. So and that's
just more of my stet because as I

1022
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,599
said before, I'm not a big
car guy, right, So that's just

1023
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:45,239
stuff I just lean towards more as
far as liking. So yeah, eight

1024
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,800
out of ten for me for the
Thunderdome Tearfields off, Yeah, it honestly

1025
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,239
would go in out of ten as
well. I enjoyed this one a lot.

1026
01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:54,599
I had a good time with it, and I enjoyed the characters,

1027
01:02:54,719 --> 01:03:00,800
and I'm glad that we got to
see more of this world and get to

1028
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,360
indulge in the Thunderdome. I think
that choreography was great, A lot of

1029
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,519
fun with that, and I think
even then dabbling back into the classic car

1030
01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:14,880
racing chasing stuff like that, I
think that was wonderful. So I think

1031
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,639
this this did a good job in
just tackling many different familiar things and new

1032
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:21,679
things in the Mad Max universe.
Again, I'm docking at points because I

1033
01:03:21,719 --> 01:03:24,360
think the kid's stuff was just not
really javing for me, but that I

1034
01:03:24,719 --> 01:03:29,599
really did enjoy this movie and I
could easily see myself rewatching it in the

1035
01:03:29,679 --> 01:03:32,960
future. Oh well, there you
go, ladies and Jim and well,

1036
01:03:34,199 --> 01:03:37,880
next up is you know, of
course we're doing it for Furio Son just

1037
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,639
the whole series in general. But
I feel like, you know, next

1038
01:03:40,039 --> 01:03:44,480
next episode is it's what we're here
for. You know that that's the big

1039
01:03:44,599 --> 01:03:50,000
one that was came out. Yeah, it came out like before the podcast.

1040
01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:52,679
It started just that, so there's
never any official review. But next

1041
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,760
week we or whenever we record it, the next episode will be Mad Max

1042
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,360
Fury Road. I think we're all
excited to talk about that one. Yeah,

1043
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:01,599
I think that's what the Wretch has
been billing you. So we'll do

1044
01:04:01,679 --> 01:04:05,159
that and then right after that,
it's uh furiosa, So we're getting close,

1045
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:08,119
so it's gonna be a good time. So thank you very much for

1046
01:04:08,199 --> 01:04:11,599
tuning in. Let us know as
always when you thought any questions, et

1047
01:04:11,679 --> 01:04:15,119
cetera, stuff like that, and
propis you when we're at three year OW,

1048
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:17,199
it'll for sure not be boring.
Bye bye