WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:03.839 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we are get 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:07.759 off our show, idiots. The kids are playing or tail off. The 3 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:11.400 countries are screwing it up. Gold play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play 4 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:15.480 Inner Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 5 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.920 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 6 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:33.600 Now? Here's nick coffee. I tell you what it is excited. It's 7 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:39.079 exciting to be excited once again. And that's how I feel. I'm excited 8 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:42.039 when it comes to Louisville basketball. We're gonna get to that in just a 9 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:48.439 second, because we've got our first addition to the roster right the debut season 10 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:50.719 of the Pat Kelsey era. We've got a couple of players already in the 11 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:55.759 mix that we're following Pat Kelsey from Charleston. But now Terrence Edwards Junior, 12 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:59.000 the James Madison Transfer Sun Belt Player of the Year, just within the last 13 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:03.920 thirty minutes or so, commits to Louisville. And that it's exciting, and 14 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:07.319 I missed this feeling of knowing like Wow, that's a big addition. That's 15 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:11.599 a guy that could really help. This is a good sign for next year's 16 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:17.079 team. But now you know, like, hey, this could really mean 17 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:19.439 something, this could really be you know, I think it's one guy. 18 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:22.560 They still got to fill out the roster and we'll see. But man, 19 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:26.560 again, it is exciting to be excited again. And I'm excited to be 20 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:29.599 here because you know, I always am. It's Coffee and Company. That's 21 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:32.879 us on a hump day, Nick Coffee, that's me, Austin Montgomery back 22 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:36.079 in the saddle. Are you excited to be excited? Oh? Yes, 23 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:41.200 you said some. I mean you said commiting someone like wanting to come to 24 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:45.319 Louisville. Yeah, what's that? Yeah? And last year, let's just 25 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:49.840 be real, I mean they did add some guys that were big pieces, 26 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:53.760 right, I mean, let's be honest. The freshman class, it was 27 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:56.159 impressive as far as on paper, right, and we all know how it 28 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:59.640 played out. And even though two guys, the biggest recruits in that class 29 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:01.640 didn't up really, I mean, one guy bailed before the season started, 30 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:06.560 another guy barely played at all. And then you had guys like Trey White, 31 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:08.639 Skyt Clark who were big additions in the portal and the grand scheme of 32 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:13.400 things. But it was just hard to really feel as if that was going 33 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.759 to matter much when you're coming off of a four win season. I mean 34 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:19.199 I can just say, hey, we'll see, But like, I didn't 35 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:23.840 believe that that team was going to be remotely good because again I watched the 36 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:27.159 first year and we have no clue what's going to happen with Pat Kelsey. 37 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.000 But what I do know is that he's not coming off a four win season, 38 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:34.719 right, and by all accounts, he's proven to be a pretty good 39 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:39.039 coach and he's now utilizing what he has to sell here at Louisville and he's 40 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:44.080 got a lot of spots to fill moving forward. But I'm excited, man, 41 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.159 And I missed this feeling in a major way. I mean, for 42 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:47.479 him to just do it right off the visit too, do we know of 43 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:50.840 did it? He committed while he's here. He's here right now. He 44 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:54.599 might be listening to us, So welcome Terrence Edwards. His nickname is Fats 45 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:59.159 by the way, Fats, Yeah, Fats Edwards. I'm a fan. 46 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:01.599 I mean, people just call me that for fun. Yeah, so I 47 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:06.199 was gonna ask that, Like, you know, I feel like Fats is 48 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.439 a nickname. I mean, I if we ever get a chance to chat 49 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:12.080 with him. I gotta I gotta understand how where that name, Like, 50 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:15.599 how do you get that nickname? Because somebody calling you fats is your nickname? 51 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:17.560 I mean, that's an insult, let's be honest with you. But 52 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:22.199 maybe it means something, you know, in a world that we don't even 53 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:24.360 you know, know about, Like maybe either's like it's you know, maybe 54 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:28.639 it's slang for something. I'm not sure. Yeah, but maybe it's one 55 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:30.719 of those ironic jokes. He's one of the most athletic dudes ever not and 56 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:32.919 ounce of fat on them, so they just call him. That could be. 57 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.039 Yeah, maybe that's why they call me skinny all the time. Yeah, 58 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:38.000 no, no comment, because you're not. I mean, you're not 59 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:39.919 a fat guy. No, no, you know, growing up I was 60 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:44.080 always a chid. Yeah, well so that's so, you know, I'm 61 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:46.919 sure as a child, maybe you did, you know, feel as if 62 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:49.560 people when they were calling you skinny it was you know, to be you 63 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.240 know, slim. That that's that's something oftentimes you you hear like with some 64 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:57.879 slim it's usually you know, a big guy, right, Like, it's 65 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.280 not usually somebody that is in fact slim. I would rather just be called 66 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.800 fat don't patronize man. I hear you, I hear you, all right, 67 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:05.879 So again, before we dive in, let me remind you folks, 68 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:10.360 we are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate our friends 69 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:12.719 over there. 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We're going to bring in Kent 79 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:45.519 Spencer from WHAS eleven. Been a couple of weeks since we chatted with Kent, 80 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:47.240 and obviously I want to get his thoughts on a lot of things how 81 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:53.680 the season ended for Kentucky, as well as the obvious coaching change for Louisville, 82 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:58.920 and uh, looking forward to chatting with kent And I feel like there's 83 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:00.920 something else I wanted to give We got some time. There was one other 84 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:03.040 thing I feel like I wanted to get his thoughts on. But again, 85 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:06.399 we'll talk to him in about an hour and hopefully by then I will remember. 86 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:12.680 All right, so the the let's see here, just some numbers for 87 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:15.720 you guys, because obviously we've talked about Terrence Edwards Junior as far as you 88 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:20.439 know him, being you know, the first transfer. We knew that they 89 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:24.439 were in on and they had him lined up for a visit. I think 90 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:27.319 he got here yesterday, late last night or maybe on't. At some point 91 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:30.759 yesterday he arrived. I think his visit's going on today and he just recently 92 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:34.000 committed. So for those unfamiliar with Fats, he was, I mean, 93 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.680 he was a hell of a player for James Madison Sun Belt Player of the 94 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:42.839 Year. He averaged let's see here, seventeen points, four and a half 95 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:46.600 rebounds, three and a half assists, shot forty two percent from the field 96 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:49.319 thirty five percent from three eighty one percent from the free throw line. And 97 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:53.000 yes, this James Madison team, they were good this year, thirty two 98 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:57.160 and four, most wins in school history. If you remember, they started 99 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:01.639 the season with a big win at Michigan State against Izzoh and in that game 100 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:06.199 he put up some big, big numbers twenty four points in that win. 101 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:11.240 So this is a big addition, there's no doubt about it. And I'm 102 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:16.240 hopeful that this is one of many in regards to new additions, because we 103 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:18.839 know they're gonna need them. And I want to get into that in just 104 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:23.040 a second, just because I don't know what I just I get a sense 105 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:26.160 that in the last I don't know, I mean the new world here with 106 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:30.279 the portal. Nil I say new because it is still relatively new, but 107 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:35.120 I kind of feel like as we speak, it's really starting to shift where 108 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:41.639 you can just sense that this has completely changed the sport. I mean, 109 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:46.959 not just basketball, I guess all of college sports. Maybe it's because Louisville 110 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:49.920 situation makes maybe maybe Louisville situation makes me think that given the fact that they 111 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:55.920 are literally going to have to use the portal to go completely put an entire 112 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:59.439 team together, and I say have to. I mean, it's a blessing 113 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:01.879 that they can, right, I mean, make no mistake about it. 114 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:08.160 I mean, there'd be well, I think with Kenny Paine, it was 115 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:13.199 so bad that a move would have been justified regardless of any portal or NIL 116 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:15.879 or anything like that, because again, results matter, and his results were, 117 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:19.160 you know, so bad that you really just can't believe it as far 118 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.319 as just the lack of success, lack of wins, all that kind of 119 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:25.399 stuff. But you know, it did at least make it quite clear because 120 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.560 Kenny kind of told on himself, right, he was able to go put 121 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.879 a new team together and they still weren't any good. And if you weren't 122 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:32.560 able to do that, maybe there would be some belief that, you know 123 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:35.519 what, it's gonna take time, it's gonna take time four or five years. 124 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:39.399 Well, no, not anymore. With NIL and the portal, you 125 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:42.800 can flip things quickly, and that's exactly what Louisville's gonna do. But I 126 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:46.839 just I don't Maybe again, I'm just caught up in the recency of this 127 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:51.079 new era here for Louisville and knowing how much they're going to utilize the portal 128 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:55.480 and knowing they don't have a single freshman coming in this year. I just 129 00:07:55.600 --> 00:08:01.319 kind of feel like freshmen, like are they how valuable are they going to 130 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:05.639 be moving forward? Obviously you're still going to see high level programs try to 131 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.120 bring in the best freshmen in the country, and you can still get good 132 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.480 players that can help you in a major way. I mean, let's be 133 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:16.920 honest, Rob Dillingham read Shepard. I'm not just mentioning those guys because they're 134 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:20.279 local. I mean they were two of the better freshmen in the country and 135 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.959 they Without those guys, imagine where Kentucky would have been this year. So 136 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:28.240 it's not as if you're no longer going to ever have any freshmen on any 137 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.919 team. But look, if you've got a bunch of nil money and you 138 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.679 got a lot of spots to go fill, I mean your best investment is 139 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.600 to go buy a transfer. I mean, buying a freshman. What is 140 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:43.519 it really going to get you in? You know, as far as immediate 141 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:48.080 results, and I guess it'll it will depend on the class, right, 142 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:52.559 Like you know, the twenty twenty three class that just finished their freshman season, 143 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:56.720 that class was believed to be one of the weakest in the country or 144 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:58.080 what. I'm sorry, one of the weakest ever in the history of you 145 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:03.440 know, since they've covering recruiting classes and whatnot. So maybe there'll be certain 146 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:05.159 guys. You know, obviously, Cooper flag at Duke is believed to be 147 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.039 a guy that could come in next year and be a star. And you 148 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.519 know, there's always going to be a handful of guys that will make an 149 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:18.080 immediate impact. But when it comes to really prioritizing new pieces right building your 150 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.840 roster, I just feel like the Portal's going to be the way to go 151 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.679 for just about everybody because you know, for example, we'll get into the 152 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:26.600 specifics of this because I want to make sure I have all my information correct. 153 00:09:26.600 --> 00:09:31.039 But there's a there's a McDonald's All American that is I believe was I 154 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:35.639 believe committed to USC, but he's now available because Andy Infield's leaving USC to 155 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:41.200 go to SMU, and apparently Louisville Pat Kelsey has has reached out. I 156 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:43.840 don't know if Louisville's you know, actually going to be in the running or 157 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.679 anything like that, but you know, this can may be great. I'm 158 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:50.600 not saying don't go after him, but I'm not cann even tell you his 159 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:52.759 name, because that's how much I've not paid attention to the McDonald's All American 160 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:58.440 class. But what I'm getting at is, if you're just thinking about, 161 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:05.200 you know, let's just say there's a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars price 162 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:11.759 tag on this McDonald's All American. And there's a two hundred and fifty thousand 163 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:16.200 dollars price tag on a guy that's played two years of college basketball at the 164 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:20.080 power six level and he's not been a star. But you know, we're 165 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:26.120 talking twelve thirteen points a game competed against some of the best competition you'll find 166 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:30.960 in college basketball. I mean, to me, the no brainer is the 167 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:35.399 guy that may not ever be a star, but he's a proven, productive 168 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.639 player that will help you right away. You don't have to worry about growth 169 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:41.759 and development. I mean, obviously, guys like that can still get better 170 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:46.080 and improve their game, but that's more of a sure thing. You still 171 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:50.320 have to worry about the fit and maybe, you know, maybe there's a 172 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.279 transition when it comes to different styles of play, Like you never truly know 173 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.080 how somebody's going to do when they go from one program to another. But 174 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.679 I just to me, like, I don't the value in you know, 175 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:09.960 trying to load up your roster with freshmen. I mean, Cali Perry recruits 176 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.639 it a way that nobody else can. I mean, I guess you could 177 00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:16.600 say Duke and Shy or they've kind of I mean, honestly, they've kind 178 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:22.559 of become the new Kentucky as far as just every year they seem to get 179 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.279 any recruit they wanted. Look, Kentucky still does really well, even though 180 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:28.720 even though Caliperry is clearly, you know, not having near the success he 181 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:33.759 used to have. They've become a team that people now consider a bunch of 182 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.000 choke artists. As far as just bouncing out on the tournament to teams that 183 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.240 nobody's ever heard of. It's happened twice in the last three years, and 184 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.879 that that happens from time to time. For it to happen twice in three 185 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:45.559 years at a program like Kentucky, it's crazy. But with all that said, 186 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:50.120 it has not impacted his ability to go get to go get players. 187 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:54.399 So as good as you know, put it this way, as good as 188 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:58.759 Duke's freshman class in Kentucky's freshman class was this last year, I mean, 189 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:01.960 Canentucky again without Antonio Reeves, They're not a tournament team. I don't think. 190 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.120 I mean that may sound like a hot take, but let's be honest 191 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:07.440 with you. Like Reeves was their best player. I mean, he's not 192 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:09.879 the guy with the most upside, he's not the best NBA prospect, but 193 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.159 Reeves was their best player. There's really no I don't think there's even a 194 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:15.879 debate. As good as those other guys were at times, I mean, 195 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:20.039 Reeves was the guy. So you know, with all that said, you 196 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:22.519 know they were good this year, got a three seed. They didn't have 197 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:24.679 anything to show for it when it came down to it. But you know, 198 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:28.639 when you look at you know, when you look at Kentucky, they 199 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:33.399 are continuously bringing in one of the best freshman classes every year. And lately, 200 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.639 Man, when the game is changed where you can have a bunch of 201 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.919 veterans and you can really build your roster. Let's say, man, you 202 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.840 got hit hard by the draft, or by graduation, or by the portal. 203 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:45.480 You know, if you go fill those spots with transfers, more often 204 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:48.159 than not, your roster is going to be filled probably with dudes that are 205 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.519 older, that have played for a while I mean, look at Duke. 206 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:54.080 You know, Duke's a team and I bring I mentioned Duke again because they're 207 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:58.240 still recruiting at a really high level. They're bringing in four to five transfers 208 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:01.679 every year. I'm sorry, FORTI five freshmen every year, and more often 209 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.840 than not they're McDonald's All Americans five star players. But last year, let's 210 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.360 be honest, Duke, I mean, Kyle Filipowski was that guy. You 211 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.200 know, they brought back dudes that were that were not freshmen, right, 212 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.120 I mean you look at I mean, heck, Philipowski clearly was I think 213 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.200 their best player all year. But if you look at their guards, I 214 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:24.759 mean it was guys like Proctor, who's now been in college for three years. 215 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:30.519 Right. So everybody's gonna have their their own way of going about it. 216 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.639 But this situation for Louisville has kind of made me just realize, like, 217 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.639 you know, do you really need freshmen? I think it'd be a 218 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:39.200 bad look to just make it to where, hey, this is how we 219 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:43.240 run our program. We are not interested in recruiting any freshmen. I mean 220 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.960 that just that nobody would do that and they shouldn't do that. But I 221 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:54.919 think you know, the emphasis on roster management on a year to year basis 222 00:13:54.000 --> 00:14:01.120 is just going to be the portal. And I know it's still relatively new 223 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:05.799 and it's weird to some fans. They just haven't gotten used to it, 224 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.720 the thought of it. They just don't like it. I don't mean if 225 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:11.480 you don't, if you are bothered by having to get used to a new 226 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:15.720 team every year, and you really miss the days of watching a guy come 227 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:18.799 in and grow and play there three four years and you learn about him and 228 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.840 you feel like there's the ultimate connection, Like I understand that. I mean, 229 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.360 let's be honest. That team that won the twenty thirteen national championship team 230 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.360 that was a team that you'd watched play for, you know, honestly, 231 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:35.919 every big contributor on that team, I feel like, outside of Montrez Harrel 232 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:39.120 was a guy that you had at least watched for two full seasons. Really, 233 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:43.080 and that's a group that I think fans have a connection with, like 234 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.639 we probably will never see again, unfortunately, because I just think that way 235 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:50.840 of doing it it could still be done. It's just not it's just not 236 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.799 I think the way people are going to go about it anymore. And just 237 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:58.639 I mean, I literally thought of just that twenty thirteen National championship when we 238 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:05.000 have brand and call yesterday and mentioned about the transferporter and transfer portal n nil 239 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.840 and how we just it's new names every year. And just imagine that the 240 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.039 transfer portal existed back then, we probably wouldn't have Russ Smith, who Rick 241 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:16.279 Patino told that you shouldn't be here and that was the essential and who knows 242 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:20.440 what the luke I mean, here's the thing. Russ would have had to 243 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:22.720 trans Russ would have had to sit out, and I think there's no doubt 244 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:26.679 about it. One of the reasons why he probably didn't end up transferring. 245 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:30.919 One of those factors was because nobody wants to sit out. If he could 246 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.039 have just gone anywhere without sitting out, Russ Smith would have never finished his 247 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:35.440 career. And I think he would tell you that. So you know, 248 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:39.440 that's just and look, that is sad to not be able to have those 249 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.200 kind of stories. And I guess it's still possible that you could. There's 250 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.320 still, like believe it or not, there's still going to be guys that 251 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:48.120 play four or five years at the same school, you know, But I 252 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:50.679 just think, honestly, you know, it's it's better for the sport overall, 253 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.960 because again, what free agency does here the portal, because that's exactly 254 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.519 what it is in college basketball. The sport is going to be talked about 255 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:03.840 around the you know, the calendar year more than it ever has because there's 256 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:06.919 so much movement going on, right There's gonna be a lot of off season 257 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.240 chatter about where certain players end up in the portal. You know what it 258 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:14.360 does for the overall look for the follow it for the next season, right, 259 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:15.679 like, oh wow, this team I didn't think they were going to 260 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.320 be good heading into the year, but damn they killed it in the portal 261 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:22.799 and that just you know, I just think it's it's it's hard for me 262 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:23.960 to really. I mean again, the negatives are what we just discussed, 263 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:27.159 right, that old school way of you know, getting the team together and 264 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:32.240 watching them grow and really accomplish something special, and that is cool as hell, 265 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:36.879 right, but you know overall that I mean, I think right now 266 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:41.639 the portal has made it to where Louisville fans can have so much genuine excitement 267 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:47.279 going into year one because who knows, maybe the team isn't great. I 268 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:51.559 mean, we have no clue truly what level of success Louisville's gonna have in 269 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:55.120 year one with Pat Kelce. But we you know, it's the intrigue of 270 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:59.360 the unknown as far as who who's going to end up on the roster and 271 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.639 you know how it all comes together. And I just I don't know what 272 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:04.839 it is. This is not brand new, right, the portal's been around 273 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:07.759 for at least a few years now, and in IL, I guess roughly 274 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:10.960 around the same time, and it was this I guess it was the summer 275 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:12.759 of twenty twenty one. I think that was the time when it just kind 276 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:15.960 of really it was here we go. And I remember being on the air. 277 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:18.799 That was when I was on in the mornings. I remember thinking to 278 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:22.079 myself, you know what, like this this is human, this is gonna 279 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:26.400 change everything. And you know, sure enough it has. And for some 280 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.880 reason here recently, it just kind of seems as if, you know what, 281 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.000 like, yeah, this game is not what it once was now when 282 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:37.960 I'm watching the action, right when you're watching college basketball or even college football 283 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:41.000 on your TV, or even at the game, I mean to me, 284 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.319 the product is still I mean, I don't even I never think about guys 285 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:47.799 making money in INIL. I never think about I never think about guys, 286 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:53.759 you know, being transfers or anything like that, so you know, but 287 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:57.480 maybe others have, maybe others see it differently. All right, Five O 288 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:00.799 two, five seven, one seventy nine is the number. If you guys 289 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:02.960 want to jump in and give us a call. We will get to your 290 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:07.480 phone calls coming up here in just a few minutes. And some of the 291 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:08.839 things I want to get into today, I've yet to talk about it, 292 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:15.519 but Chris Mack ended up at Charleston, and that is not something I've been 293 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.359 like avoiding talking about. But you know, it is wild that it's been 294 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:22.319 out there since last Friday, I guess, and it's yet to come, 295 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:22.920 but I don't know. And look, I know a lot of people don't 296 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.480 give a damn about Chris Mack at Charleston, and I get it. But 297 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:30.599 just the you know, the overall dynamic of that that movement there where Pat 298 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.599 Kelsey comes from Charleston to Louisville and then Mac is now taking his job, 299 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:38.039 it is kind of you know, it is kind of odd. But anyways, 300 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:40.799 we are loaded the rest of the way. I want to go ahead 301 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:42.400 and get this first break out of the way so we can come back get 302 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:45.160 to your phone calls, keep this thing on track. My clock management, 303 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:51.240 as you likely know, is not great. However, I'm gonna try my 304 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:55.039 best to do better, and that means we get out of here right around 305 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:56.000 this time. So again, if you want to join us, you can 306 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.400 five two five, seven nine hundred. Big news today if you are just 307 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:04.240 now joining us. We started the show with it. Terrence Fats Edwards Junior, 308 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:07.119 the transfer from James Madison Sun Belt Player of the Year, becomes the 309 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:11.799 first player to commit to this new era of Louisville basketball, other than, 310 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.319 of course, the other guys that followed Pat Kelsey from Charleston. So, 311 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:18.559 as I said to start the show, it maybe a really it may sound 312 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.559 really stupid, but what the hell I sound stupid for three hours every day, 313 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:26.880 it's exciting to be excited again, and I'm excited for the rest of 314 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:29.680 the show. So stick with us. Right here, it's Coffee and Company 315 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:33.839 Fuiel Beth Thorton's on Sports Talk seven ninety to Coffee and Company, fueled by 316 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:41.279 Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. That's right, coffee and Company rolling 317 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:45.319 along here on a Wednesday afternoon, fuel by Thornton's don't forget you could take 318 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:48.680 us with you, REEV. You go listen live on the hour radio app 319 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:52.799 listen live at seven ninety Louisville dot Com. A crazy day yesterday with storms. 320 00:19:53.079 --> 00:19:56.519 Thankfully I didn't I don't know, you know, sounds like for the 321 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:59.759 most part everybody was safe. But man, as soon as the show ended, 322 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:04.599 there were reports that vehicles were had basically like a semi had blown over 323 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:08.519 on the on the interstate I think right in southern Indiana just because of wind, 324 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:14.359 which is crazy. And I guess springtime, you know, And that's 325 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:17.440 what we're getting closer to. It is where you get crazy weather and you 326 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:19.440 go from you know, balancing back and forth with hot and cold. I 327 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:22.880 mean, that's what we've gone through recently. But I'm telling you just the 328 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.799 optics here, I mean it's scary. I mean it's like one day you 329 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:30.880 have, you know, one minute you have sunshine. In the next minute 330 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.119 you have skies that look as if the world's coming to an end. I 331 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:37.200 mean, it was nearly eighty degrees two days ago. Now I think it's 332 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:41.680 like forty and maybe this has just been normal around here in the Ohio Valley 333 00:20:41.720 --> 00:20:45.079 for many years. And I'm just you know, too dumb to remember, 334 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:48.599 but I just feel like each this just this just doesn't feel normal. But 335 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.480 I think we're actually supposed to have some more potential storms coming in later tonight. 336 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.440 So stay safe, everybody, all right, if you are just now 337 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:57.599 joining us, we did discuss the big news, and I don't want to 338 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:03.079 make it as if this guy you know is the best player in the country, 339 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:04.599 but you know, certainly a good player. Terrence Edwards, junior of 340 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:08.119 James Madison, who has transferred to Louisville, giving Chris Mack, not Chris 341 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:11.920 Mack. We'll talk about Chris Mack in just a second. That's the previous 342 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.880 coach, but giving Pat Kelsey his first commitment as the Louisville head coach. 343 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:19.319 Outside of the two guys who you know, we're always committed to him, 344 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:22.720 right, They were committed to him at Charleston and then just followed him here. 345 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:25.079 So good news, no doubt. But if you guys want to join 346 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:26.000 us on the show today, we'd love to hear from you. Five ox 347 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:30.119 two, five seven nine hundred. That's the number if you want to give 348 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:32.720 us a call. Text line. The Ellen N Federal Credit Union text line 349 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:36.519 is five oh two six five three zero seven ninety. Let's bring in David. 350 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:41.200 David, how you doing, sir? Fantastic Nick always loved the show. 351 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:47.720 Great, thank you brother. I may I've been opposed maybe the dumbest 352 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:49.799 question, but I but I you know, I'm gonna go to the top. 353 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:52.319 I'm going to you, I'm going to the man. And this is 354 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.599 and I am and I am serious when I asked this question. Okay, 355 00:21:56.920 --> 00:22:03.880 with the inception of and I do you think these kids are going to actually 356 00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:08.319 the kids that are being paid to come to Louisville to play? And I 357 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:11.319 mean, hey, we're playing the hand, We're dell, and I'm glad 358 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:17.599 we have this five h two circle and we've got people in place ready to 359 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:22.000 subsidize these kids and make sure that they're taken care of while they're here. 360 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:27.680 Here's the question. Do they have to maintain any level of academic status at 361 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:33.119 the university to play? And I think it's a fair question because anymore, 362 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:37.720 I mean, when kids are being paid to play, the amateur status is 363 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:42.559 thrown away, and to me kind of the student status is thrown away. 364 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:47.319 And I may be a complete moron for asking the question, but just want 365 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:48.880 to see what your thoughts were, thanks, David, I appreciate it. 366 00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:52.799 Yeah, I don't know if the nil component because here's the thing. This 367 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.079 is where it just gets weird, and I mean it it's weird, but 368 00:22:56.160 --> 00:23:00.359 it's the way it has to be done. These guys aren't technical being paid 369 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:06.920 to be to be student athletes at said school. They're essentially just paid to 370 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:11.119 exist. I mean, that's that's what it is. They're paid. You 371 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:12.759 know, they're paying them for their name, image and likeness, which you 372 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:17.720 know when you have a collective and the collectives involved here and they're the ones 373 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:22.039 that are helping raise I mean, the collectives exist to raise money and you 374 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:26.279 know, fundraise to give to make sure that you can compete in this space 375 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:30.240 of college athletics when it comes to you know nil. So you know, 376 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:33.000 what return are they going to get on their investment? Right, Like, 377 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:36.359 if you've got a big brand that is giving a bunch of money to a 378 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:38.279 player to do like a you know, put up on a billboard or do 379 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:41.440 a car commercial or something like that. I mean, at that point, 380 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.039 I think it's still tough to really expect to get a return on set investment. 381 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.279 But if anything, it's just brand awareness that kind of stuff. But 382 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:52.480 when you're getting paid through the collective, I mean, I don't see a 383 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:55.680 scenario where there's a return on investment from like the contract. Now again, 384 00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:59.240 we all know what it is. It's to make sure these guys do come 385 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:03.319 here and play and they're good players and then they'll you know, they'll help 386 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.680 you have success. But so I would doubt that there's any academic component to 387 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:11.279 it because I don't think the look technically, because what's because of how this 388 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:17.960 is dressed up, They're probably there's nothing in a contract that likes For example, 389 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:22.079 let me give an example, the trend Flower situation. You know, 390 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:25.440 he showed up to Louisville and he was here in il was a factor in 391 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:27.759 his decision. He was making money through the collective. He didn't get from 392 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:33.279 an I understand, a huge chunk of money, like some big lump sum. 393 00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:37.279 He was getting payments over time before he ever played here, and when 394 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:40.960 he left, he didn't have to pay any money back because technically he's not 395 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:44.640 paid to play. He's paid to just you know, be here, I 396 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.359 guess, or just you know exist. And the more I discuss, the 397 00:24:48.359 --> 00:24:49.799 more I just think about it and talk about it on this show. It's 398 00:24:49.839 --> 00:24:56.000 really stupid, but that's that's the way it's done, because when it comes 399 00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:02.359 down to you know what, the NCAA, I mean, we're in this 400 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:06.680 situation because of this. The NSAA just never budged at any point on their 401 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:10.960 overall amateurism model. So then Congress got involved and said, look, you 402 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:15.880 are not allowed to keep these players from making money while they're student athletes. 403 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:21.680 So it is really stupid. But again, we're never going back from this. 404 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:25.119 In fact, we're only moving forward. I would say, And if 405 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:30.240 you are anti Nil as a as a fan, then whatever, that's your 406 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.599 choice and you can do whatever you want. But if you're anti Nil as 407 00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:37.200 a coach, as a program, as a university, good luck, because 408 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:38.839 I don't see a level. I don't see a scenario where you would have 409 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:44.000 high levels of success. Yeah, answer your question, David, I don't. 410 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.839 I mean, like, for example, I would be willing to bet 411 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:52.960 that, like on the visit Terrence Edwards Junior, who just committed to Louisville, 412 00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:56.359 I would imagine NIL as a factor in this decision. I'm not even 413 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.279 sure. I mean, I don't think anybody even knows what's allowed and what's 414 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.000 not allowed. Like, let's be honest, the Florida State situation where they 415 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.200 got hit by the NC DOUBLEA with you know, some violation because of what 416 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:12.440 a what an assistant coach did, which if I remember correctly, he essentially 417 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:15.680 said, Hey, I can't talk directly to you about NIL, but let 418 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:19.400 me let me guide you over here to our collective. They got hit by 419 00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:25.400 the NC DOUABLEA for doing that, and I'm pretty sure just about everybody within 420 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.039 college athletics, coaches, administrators they're probably thinking, like, wait a second, 421 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:33.799 that's what everybody's doing. I thought that's what we had to do now, 422 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.119 so nobody really even knows what's allowed and what's not allowed. It's I 423 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.920 mean, it's as they say, the wild wild West, and the NC 424 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:47.839 DOUABLEA has never had less ability to really enforce anything now. I mean they 425 00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:52.079 can, they can, you know, act as if they're policing things and 426 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.599 they're going to hold people accountable. But the new trend is this, the 427 00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:59.119 NC DOUAA hits you with something like this in regards to NIL and whatnot, 428 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:03.720 and transfers just hire a lawyer fight him in court, and the NCAA loses 429 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:10.000 in court every single time. So again it's really stupid, but hey, 430 00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:12.279 it's helping Louisville right now, because if you haven't seen the amount of money 431 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.960 that's been raised in just the last I don't know, a few days, 432 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.279 I mean, it is crazy. So Dan Furman, who's the president of 433 00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:26.119 the five h two Circle, he shared this earlier this afternoon that they had 434 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:32.079 an anonymous individual who threw in one hundred thousand dollars towards the campaign they've got 435 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:36.519 going on right now to raise money for Louisville men's basketball. So right now 436 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:42.079 they're over five hundred thousand dollars and their goal is to raise a million and 437 00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:48.759 it'll be matched by Rick Keeber of Glow Brands, Planet Fitness, Suntense City. 438 00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:55.559 There's another company that's involved in that as well. So I mean that's 439 00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:59.200 a lot of money. I mean, and I've got a breakdown that kind 440 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:03.880 of tells you who's believed to have the most resources for an IL and then 441 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:08.279 like in the Horizon League or the MAC like what the number is there as 442 00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:11.480 far as the amount of money they have to use for an IL Because you 443 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:17.160 know, just to me, that's that's fascinating stuff. But anyways, all 444 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:21.480 right, let's go back to the phone on SABO two five is the number 445 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:23.240 if you want to jump in and join us here on Sports Talk seven ninety. 446 00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:26.519 Let's go to Kirk Kirk. How we doing, brother? Hey, 447 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.720 Hey, you doing today, mister Nick. Good to hear from you, 448 00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.039 my man, good to good to talk to you. Man. First of 449 00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:38.640 all, Austin is not fat. He's fluffy, and I don't think there's 450 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:44.039 a twinkie out there that he's never that, he's never meant that he didn't 451 00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:47.640 like you know, you're absolutely right, fair enough. Yeah he doesn't deny 452 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:52.400 it, God love him. But uh but yeah, I just uh, 453 00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.160 I was just talking to Austin the other day. You know all the uh, 454 00:28:56.119 --> 00:29:00.119 all the you know, Hall of Fame coaches that we've grown up and 455 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:02.880 you know, no one love is you know, I'll moved on. Rick 456 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:06.599 Bettino's, the Royal Williams, the you know, the you know, the 457 00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:11.000 big names. We're all gone. So what's next the new era of Hall 458 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.319 of Fame coaches? So what about Pat Kelsey? Maybe he's the next Hall 459 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:18.319 of Famer. So man, we're we're psyched, We're pumped. We're ready 460 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.759 to get this one rolling, baby, no doubt about it. No doubt 461 00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:22.559 about it, Kirk. I appreciate the call, and look, I think 462 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.000 that's what you hope exactly. I mean, obviously, if he becomes a 463 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.079 Hall of Famer, Kirk, then we're going to be in great shape. 464 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:33.400 But when it comes to the new era, right, the new and I 465 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.200 don't mean Louisville Basketball's new era, I mean, you know, the new 466 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.359 what do you call it? I mean, the Ogs are are moving out 467 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.160 right. A lot of those guys have already moved on, and the ones 468 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.079 that are left, I mean they're not necessarily at the top of their game. 469 00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:48.599 I mean, let's be honest. The Final Four features Dan Hurley, 470 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.599 who was a mid major guy until he got an opportunity at Yukon, and 471 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.680 now he looks like he's going to be in the Hall of Fame one day. 472 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.759 Nate Oates same situation, mid major guy Buffalo got a chance at Alabama, 473 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.559 has been good since he got there. This is the year they broke 474 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:06.039 through and made a Final Four, which, by the way, I'll plead 475 00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.000 ignorance on this. I had no clue that Bama essentially has a brand new 476 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.359 team. I mean, everybody kind of does, right, A bunch of 477 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:12.720 new players and the portal, this and that. But like, I didn't 478 00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:18.119 realize that Natoates essentially is working with almost a brand new team. And if 479 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:19.640 it's not a guy that's brand new this year, it's a guy that eventually 480 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.880 transferred to him in the previously transferred to in the last couple of years. 481 00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:26.480 So on the other side, Kevin keats a little bit of a different path 482 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.759 for him. But technically, you know, and they're the team nobody thought 483 00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.599 would be here, So I'm not even really sure we throw him in. 484 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.599 But although I think he Kevin's a great coach and I'm glad that he's in 485 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.359 the final four, but you know, he got his shot at Wilmington, 486 00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.720 that got the NC State gig, and you know, hasn't had a lot 487 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:47.240 of success, but man, he's rolling now and then perdue Matt Painter, 488 00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:49.000 I would throw him in there with the old I mean again, that's a 489 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.599 guy that nobody would tell you that he's a bad coach. But he's not 490 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.119 one of the OG's right, He's not somebody that you would put in that 491 00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:03.440 tier with the roy K Patino self. You know, is oh even and 492 00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:10.400 this year he finally broke through and made the final four. So I hope 493 00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:15.559 Pat Kelsey can follow the same path that we're seeing with Dan Hurley and and 494 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.000 Nate Oates. I mean, maybe maybe that happens, you know, in 495 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.240 a few years. Maybe it happens in five years. I don't know, 496 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:23.400 and I don't want to get ahead of myself. But yes, this is 497 00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:27.359 a guy who seems to check all the boxes. He wins, he really 498 00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:34.039 can sell, he's got good energy, he's likable, and again most importantly, 499 00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:37.000 he wins. He did it at Winthrop. He did it. And 500 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.839 keep in mind this, this may not actually be a compliment. This may 501 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:44.599 not be something that you hear and you think that I'm giving him a lot 502 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.559 of praise, but hear me out and and you know it's just to me. 503 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.000 Actually, it's another reason why I believe this guy could really hit it 504 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:56.000 out of the park here, because you know, Pat Kelsey won at Winthrop 505 00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.400 and he won at Charleston. Those are places. This is that, to 506 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:01.640 be honest with you, they've had winners before him, right, It's not 507 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:05.279 like you know, the Dusty May situation. People acted as if you know, 508 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.000 Fau was allowed to play with eight players instead of five because they were 509 00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:10.799 so terrible before Dusty May. I mean, yeah, but again, if 510 00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:15.640 Dusty May's biggest, I guess selling point on his resume outside the final four 511 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.400 is that Fau sucked and now they don't like I don't think that's a whole 512 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.640 lot. But that's a guy who went into two different places and he utilized 513 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:28.039 resources there. Now again, Charleston Winthrop. Those resources aren't what's here at 514 00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.759 Louisville, but he was able to come into a program and know where they've 515 00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:35.319 had success before, know some things that work, and utilize it and win. 516 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.200 So again, maybe you maybe you hear that and think I'm actually not 517 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.799 as impressed because again I'm saying that, Hey, other coaches have won there 518 00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:44.000 before, so what he's doing is not that special. That's not all what 519 00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:45.839 I mean. It's the fact that you know, he's in a situation now 520 00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:49.839 where again, coaches have won here. Right, there's two Hall of famers, 521 00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:52.440 legendary coaches that have coached here. Know, by the way, Chris 522 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:53.839 Mack in his first couple of years, he was a pretty damn good coach 523 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:59.839 too, until you know, things kind of fell apart. So and yes, 524 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.160 look, if you're a Kentucky fan listening right now, I'm sure, 525 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.119 you're thinking, like Jesus Christ, the guy hadn't even been on the job 526 00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:07.720 a week, hadn't coached a game, and they're talking, you know, 527 00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:13.240 as if he's about to be Phil Jackson. But just you know, and 528 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.640 I get it, you probably are thinking, man, these guys are hilarious. 529 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:19.279 They serious. He wasn't even a guy they wanted. Like, I 530 00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.160 understand what you're saying, but like, we haven't had any life in a 531 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.279 long time in regards to basketball. We haven't even had any reason to really 532 00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:30.319 believe genuinely that things were going to get better in a long time. And 533 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:35.359 my man Pat Kelsey has come in and he's given us some major life and 534 00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:39.119 some major excitement, and I love it, love it all right. So 535 00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:43.799 we are just a few days away from the final four. Certainly excited. 536 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:45.400 I am certainly excited about that. But what I want to get to coming 537 00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:51.680 up on the other side is just some some stories, some quotes, I 538 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.640 guess, I guess better way to describe it would be quotes from coaches around 539 00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:58.920 the around the country. John Fant did a good job of putting this together 540 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:01.799 at Fox sports dot Com that just you know what some coaches anonymous coaches are 541 00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:05.519 saying about this Shoe Con team as far as just how good they are. 542 00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:10.400 And you know Dan Hurley, obviously he's playing the I wouldn't say the underdog 543 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:16.119 role, but maybe playing like the disrespect card, and in a weird way, 544 00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:19.559 I kind of feel like he can do it. And it's not as 545 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:23.679 crazy as you know Georgia winning the national championship and telling us that everybody thought 546 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:25.960 they were going to be seven and five, when there's not a person on 547 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.760 planet Earth that thought that. So anyways, we're loaded the rest of the 548 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:32.119 way. Appreciate you guys hanging out with us. We'll get back to your 549 00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:36.360 phone calls, hit the text line as well, keeping this thing rolling. 550 00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.440 Also, don't forget it. Four oh five, we're gonna chat with our 551 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:40.920 man Kent Spencer from WHS eleven. So keep a lock right here on Sports 552 00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:50.840 Talk seven ninety company fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. That's 553 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:52.880 right, Coffee and Company wrapping up the three o'clock hour, and don't forget 554 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.199 we got two more hours left and a lot more to get into, so 555 00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:00.360 stick around, all right. So listen up, fellas if if you are 556 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:04.639 somebody that knows you have a problem in the bedroom, and that's a rectile 557 00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:08.639 dysfunction ed. As they say, just know that it happens more often than 558 00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:13.719 you than you would probably realize, and it's more common than you probably realize. 559 00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:15.880 And there's something you should do about it. And I'll tell you exactly 560 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.760 what that is. That's to reach out to my friends at the Louisville Men's 561 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:22.159 Clinic. 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Jeff Goodman broke the news 584 00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.760 that Chris Mack was going to be leaving, well, not leaving, I 585 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:44.079 guess, leaving Florida where he was living, and moving to Charleston to take 586 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:47.239 over for Pat Kelsey at College for Charleston and I was surprised, you know, 587 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:52.000 I knew that he'd been in the mix for the Vanderbilt job and felt 588 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.000 good about it, meaning he felt good about it. And I believe what 589 00:36:55.159 --> 00:37:00.639 ended up happening is that they the search firm that Vandy was was leaning on, 590 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:06.519 they just I think advised that with the game changing so much in the 591 00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.079 last couple of years, I think that they urged Vandy to go in a 592 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:15.440 direction with somebody that has been active in recent years, that has, you 593 00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.960 know, experienced this new world of college athletics, that is the portal and 594 00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.840 nil. And you know, I was real surprised, and I think he 595 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.800 was too, that he did not get that job. And I was surprised 596 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:30.000 also to hear that he'd be interested in college at Charleston. But you know, 597 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:32.639 I think he knows that getting back out there, getting back in the 598 00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:37.559 game is you know, first of all, it's gonna be good for him, 599 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.920 gonna be good for his family. I know he misses basketball. I 600 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:43.679 think he's one of the reasons why I think Chris Mack, you know, 601 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:45.280 just ended up wanting to leave here. And again, there was a lot 602 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:49.920 of circumstances at play that that just made it difficult for him. And but 603 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:51.920 that's not to say that, you know, everything was perfect and it was 604 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.360 all everybody else's fault. I mean, at the end, they didn't have 605 00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:58.719 success in the last couple of years, but then again that those struggles were 606 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:01.880 nothing compared to what we had recently. But overall, you know, he 607 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:06.440 wanted out, he walked away, and I think he was too normal of 608 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:10.400 a guy for this job at this at this place. But even I hesitate 609 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:14.880 to say that, because you know, when things were rolling, everybody loved 610 00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:16.440 him, right, I mean, his first year, his second year, 611 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:20.480 I mean, there was a lot of success along the way, and his 612 00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:22.480 resume prior to coming to Louisville was really really impressive. Me. He's a 613 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:27.000 former National Coach of the Year, Xavier's only been to one Elite eight. 614 00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.360 Chris Mack was the guy coaching at that time. So I think he'll win 615 00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.079 there, and I wouldn't be shocked if he's there a couple of years and 616 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.679 is able to kind of level up and get, you know, a better 617 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.000 gig. But here's the thing, you know, he he didn't pursue jobs 618 00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:47.920 that he probably could have had. I mean, I know, last year, 619 00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.719 when there were jobs opened, there was strong interest from certain schools that 620 00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:54.719 really really wanted him to be the guy. But you know, he just 621 00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.280 told him, hey, I'm not interested, not because of the job, 622 00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:00.400 because he just didn't want to coach last year. He wanted to make he 623 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:05.639 wanted another year off to I think determine if he really wanted to get back 624 00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.679 in. And then I think he realized, you know he did. But 625 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:13.320 you know, Western's job opened up recently and it's already been filled by the 626 00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.119 way, Steve is it Steve Lutz. The thing is his name. He's 627 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:19.280 now left after one year there to go to Oklahoma State and they promoted an 628 00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:22.880 assistant coach to take over. But they wanted Chris Mack and they wanted to 629 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.920 start the process of hiring him, and you know, he wasn't interested. 630 00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:28.480 So he's not just gonna take any job. And I can tell you this, 631 00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:31.039 he was in pretty good shape of Ohio State from and I understand I 632 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:35.400 mean sound crazy to some people, but you know, uh, they they 633 00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.559 knew Dusty May was was not will you know, he wanted to wait and 634 00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.519 see if he got Michigan and did like Vandy, So you know it guess 635 00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:44.480 it depends on who you talked to. They talked to Dusty May. They 636 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.119 were interested. But I don't think he turned down that job like some will 637 00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.639 tell you. And I think Mac had two different interviews with with Ohio State 638 00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.000 and felt pretty good about it. In the end, their their interim coach 639 00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:57.960 won enough games to where they just elevated him. So West Virginia was interested, 640 00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.920 he didn't. He didn't pursue that opportunity. Wichita State last year really 641 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:06.039 really was interested and he just again at the time, wasn't wanting to coach. 642 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.599 So he's pretty selective. That's not to say he could have had any 643 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.760 job he won it, trust me, I'm aware of that. But I 644 00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:15.199 think him wanting to go to Charleston is pretty telling because I think he knows 645 00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:19.119 he can win there. Great place to live, by the way, and 646 00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:21.719 who knows, maybe he sticks around there for a long time, right, 647 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.719 maybe he ends up having success and falls in love with the with the with 648 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:29.400 the community and whatnot, and maybe he stays put. But wouldn't shot. 649 00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.719 I mean, I'll put it this way. His former assistant coach, a 650 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:37.199 guy he has you know, worked with or you know worked with for many 651 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.960 years when they were assistants, at wake Forest. Obviously, Pat worked under 652 00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:44.679 Chris Mack for a few years at Xavier, him being the Louisville coach. 653 00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:49.320 You saw how Mac handled it with his statement and just really you know, 654 00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.079 talking up Pat and mentioning that he's a great guy and Louisville's going to be 655 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.440 in great hands. I mean, I know he means that, I mean 656 00:40:55.159 --> 00:41:00.280 sincerely. So I think that you know, if you guy saw. But 657 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.159 when they announce Chris Mack as the coach of Charleston, they included some quotes 658 00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:07.039 from Pat Kelsey about Chris Mack, So you know, I think clearly they 659 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.840 have a long relationship and friendship together. But with that said, I mean, 660 00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.920 I'm sure knowing that Pat Kelsey's now in the position that he once had, 661 00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:22.239 it's motivation. It's motivation to him not to you know, like build 662 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.199 Charleston up to where they're a better program than Louisville. But I just think, 663 00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:27.559 you know, as a competitor, because I don't think you could ever 664 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:30.280 be at the level any of these coaches have been Mac Kelsey, I mean, 665 00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:35.039 high level college basketball coaches. You're probably not in that position without being 666 00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.760 somebody that is a super competitor that wants to be, you know, wants 667 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.360 to be at the top. So I'm happy for him. I know he'll 668 00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:45.559 do well there and again could be. And here's what I believe. And 669 00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:47.519 I told Chris mack this last week when I talked to him, I said, 670 00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.760 look, you haven't coached in a few years. There's a lot of 671 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.719 things that have changed within college basketball. I don't think there are many people 672 00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.559 that sit around thinking about, oh, Chris mack Man, he's no longer 673 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:01.119 in the game. He sucks as a coach, But like you know, 674 00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:04.360 you're just not in the game. You're not out there. But if you 675 00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:06.800 go to Charleston or somewhere like that. And I didn't know for sure if 676 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:07.800 he was going to go to Charleston at the time. But all he needs 677 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.239 is to get back in and to start winning. And what it'll do is 678 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:13.599 it'll remind people, oh, yeah, that Chris mack guy. He's a 679 00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:15.440 pretty damn good coach. Things were kind of weird at Louisville, kind of 680 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:19.000 fell apart really quickly and he walked away. But when he first got there, 681 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:22.800 man, they were really good. He beat I think it was seven 682 00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:27.559 top twenty teams in his first two years you know, had a number one 683 00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.480 team in the country, brought in a top ten class at the time. 684 00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:34.000 I mean, you know, and not to mention what he did at Xavier 685 00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.679 really impressive. So I think him having some success at Charleston, maybe they 686 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.360 end up being a team that could potentially get in without winning their league. 687 00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:45.519 I don't mean that's happened before at that level, but that'll be a reminder. 688 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:46.920 Oh yeah, Chris Mack I forgot about him. Pretty damn good coach, 689 00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:50.360 and he's now at Charleston. We better hope we can avoid them. 690 00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:54.639 We hope we can avoid them on the bracket things like that. So I 691 00:42:54.679 --> 00:43:00.119 hope that he has success there. And you know, I know he's already 692 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:01.159 you know, doing what every coach in the country is doing, and that's 693 00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.800 you know, figuring out his roster for the next season. But anyways, 694 00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.760 congrats to him, and who knows, you know, wouldn't it be something 695 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:12.360 I mean it sounds crazy, but like the NAA would do this, like 696 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.880 maybe next year or two years from now, like it's Louisville, Charleston and 697 00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:17.239 the n SAA tournament, you know what's happening. Yeah, I mean, 698 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:21.079 like they would do that for sure. All right, we got two more 699 00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:22.440 hours to go. Stick with us on the other side, we are gonna 700 00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:25.480 welcome in our man. He's our man man, he's my man, he's 701 00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:29.000 your man. The means he's our man. He's kid Spencer from WHS eleven. 702 00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:34.840 He joins us next right here on Sports Talk seven ninety