We're coming up on the two year anniversary of episode three fifty four. That's
the episode where tonight's guest came on and told us about his first dog met
an encounter. Since that show, weird, he's had quite a few new
experiences, and that's what he's come back to talk about. Of course,
I'm talking about Paul Chieffin. Paul, thanks so much for coming back.
Great to be here, Vic talking to you. Well, it's great talking
with you. I really appreciate your time. Paul. For the listeners who
missed that show, please tell them about yourself and give him a rundown on
that first encou me. Yeah, I went to hunting when I was sixteen
years old. I got up late one day and almost didn't go. Just
a dark, gloomy day in November, in between the first and the fifth
of November. I just got up late and almost didn't go. My dad
was gonna go with me, and he backed out and didn't go. But
I sat here and taught myself into going around. But I think ten eleven
o'clock maybe twelve, and I walked way back up on the mountain and went
into an area that I didn't really freak up that much. And I got
back there and I just fell asleep up against a tree. And when I
woke up, it was he was around three or four o'clock and then around
that time, and especially in the mountains, it gets dark a lot earlier.
You know, the sun goes down, which the sun went now,
but it gets dark a lot earlier. But yeah, I sit there and
fell asleep on When I got up, I just I kind of panicked a
little bit because I knew I wasn't going to make it home before dark,
because he's a dark one. On five fight thirty and I was farther an
hour from the house. But I took about fifteen steps, I would say,
and fear come over me that I can't explain. And yeah, it
just was a primal fear. And I stood there. I had my hat
pulled, bow and I kind of stood. I had a shotgun with me,
like free nuch slug bags in it. Just deer hunting. Everything I
see it in the mountains is going to be you know, close shot,
brush shot. I was on top of a ridge, so I was coming
down into what they call a gap, and there's a logging road that came
from my right over it and it crossed through the gap and went around the
other side of the ridge on my left, and I caught something walking that
It was walking that road when I seen it, it was on that road,
and it looked like a black blob to me, like it was blacker
than black. I don't know if you know what panto black is, but
if you've ever seen it, it's it's just black. And it was so
black that I couldn't make out details on it. But as I watched it,
I started to be able to see things, like it's I noticed it's
elbow, and then I noticed that it had a chest on the side profile,
and it had a tail. It had ears that kind of pointed up
but kind of back. I don't know if he was doing that on purpose
or if it's just the way it looked, but yeah, it's still about
seven eight feet tall, probably six seven hundred pounds. And it never looked
at me and never made eye contact. It just walked at a steady pace.
It's about seventy yards away, and it still had about seventy yards before
it got out of my side and it went over the hill. But now
it never looked at me, thank god, because I don't know what I
would have done. Shooting it never crossed my mind. I probably would have
dropped the hunt and run, but I know not to run from predators and
all that. I was raised in the mountains. But yeah, this was
a different predator. So yeah, I mean, that's it in a nutshell.
It changed my life for sure. You know, I left the mountain
that day a different person. I live in a different reality than everybody else
that hasn't seen one of these things. But yeah, it's pretty Friday.
Nobody believed me, so really, to the bad taste of my mouth for
talking about it for a long time, Well, I can understand why it
did. And like you said, thank goodness, it didn't look at you.
Yeah you said, you're in the mountains, but what mountains were there?
Where were you? I was in eastern Kentucky and Pike County, in
a little place called Canada, Kentucky. I lived a place called BlackBerry,
and then you know, my mom and dad were divorced, so I went
back and forth there. So you know, I was in Canada Kentucky this
time. And it's in the Appalachian Mountains as far eastern Kentucky as you can
go. Literally when I had Field McCoy feud happened researching dog me in the
way you do. I don't need to tell you about how many documents are
in that area. And like I said before, I never got the feeling
that that thing lived there. I don't know why I got that feeling,
but I just didn't. It almost like it was just passing through. And
I think it's stopped me or something, because just thinking back and looking at
it in my mind, had I kept walking at the taste I was walking,
if we were both blind, we would have reterally run in each other.
So I think it stopped me. I think it seemed me. It
just didn't look at me. I don't think it cared because I was one
hundred and forty pounds, soaking wet, fifteen years old. So I don't
think it's too worried about me. Thank goodness, he didn't bump in them.
No, I think about now looking back now, big got me thinking
about it. It makes my voice shaking. Stuff like this, it's traumatizing
for sure. Oh, I'm sure it does make your voice shake. Yeah,
that's not going to give you the warm and fuzzies. Back when we
did that first show, your favorite place to research was the Daniel Boo National
Forest. Is that still your favorite place to go look for them? It
is, But I have a hard time finding somebody that will which of course,
I've got kids, and you know, I'm a dad. So I
got a saying. It's it's hard to find somebody that will dedicate the time
that I'm willing to dedicate, and that has the health to go in and
do what I do. Because when I go, I go. I'm not
trying to just walk around in the parking lot. I'm trying to go.
So yeah, it's hard to find people that wants to go do that.
But you know, every now and then I get I'll find somebody and we
go. But mainly I go down here near my house. I've had a
lot of encounters right here near home. I'll tell you what, Paul.
I've spoken with a lot of dogy and researchers, and I've got to give
you credit. You're all business when you head out. You don't mess around.
You're serious about this. Yeah, I'm always trying to improve the pictures
still, aren't you know? The pictures that we get in evidence that we
get. You know, I've got a lot of track casts, a lot
of really large canine track casts. I've went into a lot of areas that
I probably had no business being in. I've been growled at, I've had
a lot of encounters, I've been bluff charged, and I just keep stick
in my nose in those areas, of course, But that's what I go
down there for. So that's what I'm looking for, is that I want
to be able to show somebody, you know, when I tell the story
and they all, I guess probably we stand back to my bed and I'm
laughing and want to code them. Had I been able to show a picture
of what I've seen, it have been different. You mentioned the pictures of
footprints, and you've got your fear of share of photos of dogmen themselves.
You get results when you go out. What do you think it is about
how you conduct yourself out there that is responsible for you getting so much good
evidence? You know? That's what I tell people. The good pictures and
stuff are just right on the other side of that or flight feeling, you
know, like, because that feeling will come over you. You go down
into the areas that I go into, you go three times at least once
you're going to come across that feeling that you need to get out of there.
And if you stay, you know, you end up getting someone came
or whether you get growed out or something thrown at you, or something just
gets mad and stomps around, something will happen. Not many people who can
have the nerve to stay there and stay put when all that's going on and
get that great photo. So you must have a lot of sin. I'm
telling you no, not a lot of people will, even the people that
have been with me when I went down, or they don't. They'll go
back if I really really need them to, but they don't really want to
go back, you know, And I guess I don't blame them. If
I wasn't looking for the answers I'm looking for, I probably wouldn't go back
either. You after talking about all the secarity experiences that you've had with some
of those people, I can understand why they would want to come back.
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Paul, since you're on episode three fifty four, you've had several new experiences.
Please talk us through those now. Well, I met Kyle from episode
three sixty three about a year and a half ago, two years ago,
and I went up with him and met him and we went out fishing on
his boat. You know, he showed me where he had the encounters and
stuff and we could he could be fishing. Well, we got out on
the boat and we were on our way back for the night, headed toward
the boat dock, and he was just trolling along. We weren't he wasn't
allowed or anything, and we just heard a racket like I mean, just
branches being broke and stuff. It was off to our left and he was
played about a hundred yards to the shore to our left, and we were
like in a little uh let like I guess like a conensula or somebody.
I don't know what you would call it, but you know, we were
probably about a hundred yards from the docking and it was probably by a hundred
yards to our left the shore was, but whatever it was come off the
mountain and it was breaking stuff and it was it sounded like it was mad
whatever it was, but it hit the water. Whatever it was, I
mean, we found out later what it was. You know, it came
off that bank and hit the water and came right towards the boat. So
I stood up, pulled the firearm and was standing there. He was kind
of freaking out too, which his encounter. I don't blame him, but
I had my farm pulled and was standing there. I was ready to shoot
the rounds into the water. But yeah, it ended up being ducks,
thankfully. But you know, I've never seen ducks at twelve one o'clock and
I want to come out like that, come out of the woods and out
of the trees and stuff. It wasn't even in trees, they were in
the woods. They come off the ground. So they hit the water hard
to like. It sounded like a grown man run down and hit the water.
So yeah, that that's just one that happened shortly right after I did
that interview. And then I've been rowed at near my house at this boat
dock on the river on the Kentucky River. Yeah, I went down and
the day before I had went down and I walked out, took my backpack
off because there was a creek that runs out to the river, but it
runs right through this river bottom. So I walked out to the point there
for where I would have had to have jumped over to the other side,
and at that time you could the water wasn't up high. But I stopped
on that little point on the sand bar and was pulling out my stuff,
get my camera and stuff ready, you know, attaching the stuff to my
phone. And I looked up and there was a dog man. I'm assuming
it's one of the dog you know. They all looked very strange. None
of them looked like you think they would. But it was on all fours
and it was walking down the beach on the other side, looking at me,
and it didn't look like it was too concerned that I was there.
But it had a mountain lion look and had that black you know that went
down around its nose and stuff that it had big tall ears that stuff about
six or seven inches, and it was just a big body. I'd said
it probably weigh two one hundred fifty pounds, but yeah, I didn't have
nothing ready. I was standing there holding all my stuff in my hands,
just looking at it, and it made a lad went up the bank and
then into the tree line. But that same day I got some really good
pictures and I went home and I was showing one of my friends the pictures
and he was intrigued. He didn't believe me while I was crazy talking about
these things, so he wanted to go back with him for seeing us pictures.
Was the next day. I got out of the card I mean,
and got everything ready then, you know, I was ready to go.
I had everything set up that way. When I got out there, all
I do is hit record, you know, a way they didn't catch me
slipping again. So I got out there and hit record, and I seen
something over in that creek and it was about ten It was about fifteen foot
probably to the actual down to the creek, but I could see the top
of something's head. And I told him, I was like, Mike came
here. I said, it real quiet, just like that said Mike came
here. And we were walking on the sand, so whatever were there didn't
hear us walk in. It was very quiet, really quiet day. And
he took about three steps towards me from my left and something crowd at us
from my right. Now in the video that I have, you know,
you can hear it really well, and if you watch, it looks like
I ran, But I really didn't run. I just dropped the camera from
babies on a monopod or whatever. So I dropped it from vehicle down the
horizontal. I pulled my firearm and backed up about thirty steps and I stood
there and kept recording. Now, I didn't get whatever it was on camera
as I did, I just wasn't able to see it. But yeah,
it was very frightened him. It frightened him pretty good. And it just
shocked me more than anything, because in my mind that's what I'm there for.
Though it may as well set up and wavedness, the way I look
at it it let me know, you know, I know, while you're
here, is pretty much the way I took it. That I think I
talked about, you know, being bluff charged down here. It's just preserved.
So I mean, I've had thanks throwing at me down here hard to
being hit like. Whatever it was, it was very accurate. Whatever it
fell with sticks and stuff and rocks, and we had I'm sure everybody's listening,
probably a lot of guys, probably a deer hunt and have startled a
deer. If you walk up on the big bug and turning the rut in
his spots, he'll blow really hard and then run off at six ways saying
you know, I see you, and letting everything else and the woods know
you're there. But whatever it was, it it sounds just like a deer.
But that's the only thing I can compare it to. It was blowing
really hard and pacing back and forth about thirty yards to the right and about
thirty yards back to the left, and it was stomping and breaking branches,
and it was just blowing. Whatever it was was very angry that we were
there, and it's throwing things, and it was just out of eyesight too,
And I was afraid of approach him closer because whatever it wasn't very mad.
So I mean, we've had just just quite a few little encounters like
that, not meaning, thankfully, have we had any of that we were
in real danger, you know, We've had a couple where it could have
been it could have been really bad. I didn't experience any in for sound
Boy whatever growd, But now I could feel it my chest for sure.
Whatever it was that growled was closed and it was very large. I've listened
to just a bunch of different growls over the last year and a half.
I've listened to tigers and lines, and you know, I've listened to bears
and just trying to figure out, you know what it came close to me
and probably a line, you know, an African line or a tiger probably
is closest that I've heard that matches the sound, the deep growl that it
came. You know, it was just it wasn't from there. Whatever that
was was not from Kentucky. You know, it was not native or something
we know about. I'd say it's a safe bet that it wasn't. No,
it wasn't. It wasn't from Kentucky. Or if it was, it
wasn't nothing that's in any book I've ever seen or read. Yeah, i'd
see not. You've got a YouTube channel of your own where you post a
lot of the picks and videos. So you're just talking about what's your channel's
name. It's a Kentucky document project. It's fairly new. I've only had
the channel, the YouTube channel. I got a Facebook group Ukey Dogman Project.
But the YouTube channel's only about four months old probably, and I've got
quite a few videos on there, so anybody wants to go check that out,
it's well worth it. There's a bunch of short videos on there too,
so I mean there's a I've gathered a lot of evidence over the years,
you know. I've done a lot of research with a lot of big
names like Renee Wilson. I think she's been on your channel before. I've
researched with her. I've researched with Kurt Stokes, I've been out with a
few people. I've made a lot of good people and had a lot of
good times doing this. For it to have been such a stress on my
life, being able to go out with people that's had similar encounters and stuff,
it's really helped me out a lot over the years. So I don't
want to say I enjoy it, but it's fun doing it with somebody like
my girlfriend, who totally understands everything and she knows on my line. She's
seen the things and she's pulled thorns out of my head where I tried to
climb a thorn tree after I got bluff charge, So yeah, she knows.
I'm not kidding around. Was it a hawthorn tree you tried to climb?
Well, it was. The tree didn't have thorns on it, but
there was a vine growing around it that had one inch thorns. They were
big sharp ones too, And wow, I got. I heard a dog
the heark and it sounded like it was about pay fifty sixty yards away,
and I didn't When it barked, I thought, man, that's a big
dog, you know, like, I thought, wow. And then when
it barked again, it sounded closer to me, and it sounded louder.
I've never heard anything like this. And then it barked again and was closer.
So, like I said, I had that shotgun with me because that's
usually what I carried. And I was along, of course, like I
shouldn't have been. But the first thing that hit my mind was there was
somebody down there was a because I was in nature preserve and there was a
hiking trail in the area. But it wasn't a well known like a lot
of people don't know about it. But the name of its the Gym Beam
Nature Preserve. You can look it up, you know, it ain't a
secret. Now now you can't go down there. They got a gate up.
I don't know why they have that gate up, but they do.
But whatever that was was coming fast and hard through the trees, and I
was standing in the opening in the field kind of and I was about thirty
yards twenty thirty yards from the tree line, and it was coming fast.
So I turned around and tried to climb that tree because in my mind,
all I could picture was what one of those slugmags would do to somebody's domestic
dog, and I didn't want to have to explain that. So I was
going to hit that tree and try climb it. But that tree, for
one, would have ever held me without the thorns. But those thorns was
dug in my hand. And this while then you were doing the last interview
a couple of years ago. I had those stores in my head and in
my hand at that time. I hadn't had them dug out yet because it
had just happened the day prior. But whatever it was came right to that
tree line and dead stop, and it never made another sound because I spun
around with that shotgun because I knew I couldn't get that tree, and I
was just gonna whatever it was was about to eat some lead, make peace
with it, and was gonna blast it off his earth, but it stopped
dead, and it then came out. It didn't come out, and I
backtracked the way I come in and eased my way out of there. I
thought, when I get to the parking line, I'll find out who's here.
I got there and there was nobody there but my car. So yeah,
it was pretty scary. I'm sure it was. Yeah, it sounds
like it. And one inch thorns, that's no joke, No, yeah,
not at all. Of all the times, even been in their presence,
which encounter would you point to as being the most frightening one? That
one that bluff charge, because I just I only over it fairly. Quit
this now. But I'm pretty sure I talked about it in the last interview,
but that one was coming towards me, you know, like the other
one I seen, and it was walking away from me, you know,
And even though it was scary, it just wasn't like this and this one
here, I knew in my mind, I'm about had to deal with this,
you know. There ain't no getting away from it. This is coming
right at me and I'm gonna have to deal with it. So yeah,
it was a different kind of fear. Whatever it was, I'm sure if
it's got any intelligence, it had to have got a kick out of what
it done to me. So it scared me. Like you walk up on
a big rattle snake in the woods or something and get too close before you
see it, you needs will get weak. And that's kind of how I
felt it was. And it was just it was definitely scary, you know,
like it for me to try to find me at thorn Bush. I
don't know what got into me. I should have just dealt with it,
however, but yeah, I didn't. I dealt with it wrong. I
got a good look at myself and what not to do, and I realized
that something may go wrong one of these times and I may have to deal
with it. So, you know, it was the open experience. Yeah,
that time scary. Everyone's got a plan until they get hit. Sounds
like you got hit that day. Yeah, I think that's what you said
last time. I think you said Mike Tyson said that everybody's got a plane,
they get punching them out. That's right. Yeah, they normally do,
from what I understand, Paul, your views regarding their capabilities have changed
please expand on that for us. Well, the last interview we did,
I was certain that these were fleshing blood. I used to laugh at people
who talked about cloaking and who talked about the woe factor of all this stuff,
And you know, I just laughed at all that stuff because I was
finding tracks. I was finding scatt I was finding every time I would see
when on video they would have gnats around their face like a normal dog.
They just everything I had been seeing up until that point was flesh and blood,
is what it led me to believe. And then I started getting better
equipment to record with and just better stuff. And I started learning more as
I went what to look for when I was watching video, and you know,
we're viewing footage, and I started seeing orbs. And I say orbs
because you can tell the difference because when a bug goes by a leaf,
it don't light it up. You know, these orbs they were literally lighting
the leaves up as they went by them, and stuff, and I started
seeing cloaked. They were cloaked. And the picture quality of the video that
I had because my phone. I got an OPhone and you can put it
on four K and improve the picture and I also had a binocular that attaches
to I'm sure you see them advertised, but it attaches to your phone,
so I had that on there as well. So the picture quality was just
insanely good. So you could just see the distortion that they caused and how
they made the grass behind them blurry. And I just started seeing some that
had heads. You could see them in the trees, like from a distance,
you could see them in the trees, and their heads looked like they
were as big as the hood of a car, you know, And I
know that there's no possible way in real life that's something like that's there.
So I just started seeing a lot of things in which I'm sure most researchers
will ignore because they don't want to go that route or they don't want to
acknowledge it and talk about it and get involved in that, in which I
understand, but I won't do that. I'm going to tell you what I
see, and I'm gonna show it to you. I may not like it,
but that's just the reality of it. There is a supernatural side to
this. They are flesh and blood ones too, I also believe, But
there is a supernatural side, you know, whether they're in a different dimension
or a realm, or they're dead. I don't know, you know,
but they are in a different dimension I think personally, but I think it
overlays hours. Like I used to when I thought of a dimension, I
would think of it's something far off instead of a dimension that overlaid our dimension,
you know. So I just came. I came a long way and
talked to a lot of different people, and I sat with Scott Carpenter for
probably an hour at a convention. I got to sit and talk to him
and just me and him, set and talking. He has seen my videos
and pictures and stuff. You knewho I was, so yeah, I've got
to talk to him and just a few people that are well known in the
field. I've got to set and pick their brains and stuff. I've been
very fortunate when it come to that. It sure sounds like, yeah,
I've been. There's a place called Corbin in Kentucky that holds a unique distinction
for you when it comes to dog men. Please talk us through that.
Well, the Corbin Areas, Now, that's where Kurt Stokes has done a
lot of research and stuff and has pulled a lot of video and evidence out
there that that has made him known. You know, like it's the area.
You couldn't find it really unless you know somebody pointed it out to you
or told you about it. But it's in that area of southeast Kentucky,
you know, right in the foot Deels, but it's a national park.
It's right on the outskirts. You passed it Daniel Boone that for a sign
and then you know it's just barely inside the park. So it's just an
eerie place to me. When I go in there, I can just feel
it that the ground is. You know, they say the Indians wouldn't the
Indians wouldn't stay there, they would just hunt and move on. So there's
a reason for that. And if I could tell you some of the names
of the place, you would understand what I'm talking about. But yeah,
it's a it's just a different place. It's got a different feel from any
other place I've ever been. And if you know who Kurt Stokes is and
then watched his videos and you understand, what do you think it is about
that erie that makes us so attractive to dog men? I think it ain't
just that place. I think it's just all national parks. It's protected by
the government or whoever, the National Park Service or whoever. You know that
it's just protected land, you know. So I think they just have I
don't know. I think they feel safe there maybe, or maybe it has
something to do with the granite or the limestone. Because it's all cliffs and
caves and overhangs, so there's a lot of good reasons to be there if
you are a dog man. If I was a dog man, that's where
i'd be. Yeah, it's it's just really rough terrain. You've got to
be in good shape to go any distance there. You've got to be in
good shaped. Does sound like an awfully creepy please? I wonder if you
like it so much. How far do you live from the LPL Paul.
I live right in the center of the state right now. I live just
south Alaks and came about fifteen minutes, so I live about three hours four
hours from Lambquin of Lakes. That's pretty far. Have you done anyr research
there? No, I haven't. I haven't got a chance to go down
there. I would have to have somebody go with me. I've heard a
lot of people talk about also, the man of the cave area and it
being really like a really big hot spot. I've heard quite a few tales
come out there that are, you know, situations I wouldn't want to be
in. Yeah, definitely I can relate to that. I've heard some pretty
creepy stories. Yeah. Do you have any opinions on the murderers that allegedly
happened in the LBL. I do. I don't personally believe it. I
don't believe any of the stories I believe. I mean, I don't think
anybody knows the real truth. I think a family was probably killed there,
and it probably wasn't crypted, that don't it. But I don't think anybody
knows. I don't think anybody was there and survived. Maybe the police officers
did go back and tell you know, maybe a couple of these other big
name researchers didn't know something that everybody else don't. But I personally don't believe
that anybody survived and we had to tell about it thirty years later or four
years later. It really does make you wonder if there's something behind those stories.
You never know, Well, people want to believe that stuff. People
want a good story. Maybe I'm wrong, Yeah, it's hard to say.
I guess we're never going to know. Haven't had as many run ins
with dog mins he half over the years. Think how dangerous they are is
over a soldier, You think it's actually accurate when people represent them as being
kill you on site monsters. I think they will warn you, and if
you ignore those warnings, something bad that's happened to you. I think they're
probably diverse, just like everybody else you might run up on. One has
lost its mom, or it's girl, it's kid, or anything could happened
to anybody having a bad day. You know, you never know. You
know, it could be shot at. You're carrying a gun in its home,
you know, So you just never know what you're going to run up
on. But I do believe they will give you a warning. And if
you don't listen or take heat and David Plotty's to be talking about you,
you read some good points, you never know. It might have gotten up
on the wrong side of the log that morning. It's hard to say the
fact that you got looking for them says you have a certain level of comfort
being their presence. Does that mean you still do everything in the woods you
used to do before you found out about them being out there. Well,
where I'm from, we used to do a lot of riverbank fishing, you
know, on the Tug River which separates West Virginia from Kentucky. You know,
my dad was really big fisherman and deer hunting stuffing. Just so am
I. I still am, But I can't really enjoy myself and set with
my back to the tree line anymore. I'm always looking over my shoulder and
I'm more of a bass fisherman now in the daytime. I don't really I
don't really like going down to the river at night and sitting like I used
to. It just ain't the same anymore. Even deer hunting anymore. You
know, I can deer hunt, but it's always in the back of my
mind, you know, like I said before, it's it'll always be there
every day. It was everyone eating the days my kids were born. You
know, I got three kids. You know, every day, every day
it's in my mind. You know, there's never a day goes by where
I'm not thinking about it. Unfortunately, there's life before you knew they were
out there. In life after, you're definitely in the ladder category. Yeah,
yeah, it does change things. Every time I turn around, it
seems like someone complaining about the lack of dog men pictures and evidence being out
there. You've had good luck getting pictures of them, though. Let's show
some of those picks now. As I show them one by one, please
tell us a story behind each one, all right. The first picture is
the day before we got growled at. You know, it's the first time
I ever had that binocular hooked to my phone and went down there. The
day that that one was walking down the beach and I wasn't ready. But
this is the same day this picture is, and it's got a blue arrow
over top of its head, and you can see it clear as day looking
at me in it's standing about eye level, about six foot tall, and
you can see it's ear sticking up, you know, you can see both
eye just it's pretty self explainatory. It was really green. This was around
I think July, so it was really green and really hot and money down
there, and there was a lot of activity going on. And usually when
I go into an area, the first day I will get a lot of
good pictures and I'll get a good tracks, and then the next time I
go in, all that kind of comes to it stopped. You know,
they kind of see what I'm doing and know what I'm there for, I
believe, so they know what to steer away from. So yeah, that
picture is pretty self explainatory. I mean when you look at it, you'll
be able to see it really well. So and then the next picture is
just a close up of that pictures where you can see it better. So
when I post pictures, I'll usually post the original distance and then I'll post
a close up picture with it so you know, you get a better look
at it. And then the next picture is not a dog man, but
I'll be honest with you, I don't know what it is. It looks
big in the picture, but it's this thing is about three foot tall three
or four foot tall, and it appears to be humanoid with a bald head.
And it's pretty frightening looking though. You know, even though it's not
dog man, this was a dog man area and I had a lot of
activity in this area. So whatever that is, you know, it's either
standing in that tree, it's on something back that. Yeah, you will
see it really well. And this fourth picture is one of my favorites.
It's kind of got a yellowish tint to it, and it's got a red
arrow pointing down at the dog man. But yeah, this this one was
right off the road down here at this boat lamp, and it's looking right
at me, of course, and it's probably one of the more frightening pictures
that I have for me to have been standing there and I didn't see it
and it's right in my face. So yeah, people are to enjoy that
one. And then the last one is one of my favorites. Also.
It's got green glowing eyes. It's unmistakable, you know, when you look
at it, you'll see it's all five of these pictures are really really good.
But yeah, some of them are really frightening to me even to work
out right now because I was right there in the face and didn't see him.
That just goes to show you you walk right by him, I'm not
seeing. But yeah, it's these pictures are better pictures than out I don't
know, and I'm not putting in there's there's a lot of good researchers out
there, and they do good work, but I personally haven't seen pictures you
know, that are as good as the pictures that I have. I hate
to pat myself on the back or whatever. You know, I put in
a lot of work, in a lot of hours doing this. You know,
I don't I get lightly so you know, I think that's why I
get the results that I get. It in just a hobby. To me,
this is real life, this is what I do. But yeah,
these pictures are really good pictures. That's not bragging at all. You've put
in a lot of hard working. Those pictures are just proof that it's paid
off. So you deserve credit for that. Yeah, and Vic, you
know, like when I post a picture, if I post a picture,
I found that if I put dogment at the talk of the picture, it
gives people room to argue with me. You know, you're never gonna make
everybody happy as well, you know that. But you know if I put
dogment at the top of the picture when I post it, then somebody's gonna
come on there or ide about, man, that's a tree or that's that.
So I just post the pictures, and you know, I don't say
anything. I just let people come to their own conclusions and their own I
just let people make up their own mind on what they see. I probably
got one hundred and fifty pictures on my phone that are decent pictures, but
I post them all in my Facebook group, They're all on my YouTube channel
and stuff, so you know, anybody that wants to go and look at
them is welcome, you know, And every picture is not going to be
crystal clear, and you're not going to get you know, there's always going
to be room for somebody to argue. But I'm happy with them. And
there's a lot of people that follow me that enjoy real results instead of just
a scary story or whatever. Like you said, you do get real results,
no denying that. For anyone who'd like to visit your YouTube channel,
which I hope they will, I'm going to post links to it in your
Facebook page in the description for tonight show. Got to make it really easy
to find them. Awesome, Thank you glad to do it. Here's a
fun question for you time and again to hear about dog Me and researchers heading
into the woods looking for these guys, only to run for their lives the
moment they actually see one. What are your thoughts on that, you know,
I don't know. I don't know why I'm going down or looking for
him, So unless it's chasing me, I'm not running and leaving. So
it's got to be really, really frightening. It's got to be trying to
run me off really strong for me to leave, Otherwise I'm going to stay
there and get it on camera. So in order for it to get ahold
of me, it's going to have to come at you on camera. I'm
going down there looking for him. I put a lot of time and askering
this. I'm not going to I'm not going to run. You know what
the first chance act to see one. Well, your pictures and videos are
evidence of that. There proof Before I ask you for your closing comments,
Paul, you've checked so many things off of it. What's still left wing?
Your dog me and bucket list. I mean, I've got one standing
on two legs, but it was before I got this binocular or these attachments
from my phone and stuff. And I don't like using a video camera because
I could be able to review footage on the spot if I need to,
so I can do that with my cell phone. So I just wanted to
figure out a way to get better quality with using your phone. And there
is a lot of attachments and a lot of things you can buy that makes
the picture quality better. So My girlfriend has ordered quite a few things for
me that's improved the quality of the pictures and stuff. I'm always trying new
things, and I'm just always trying new stuff, and it's about having patience
and being able to sit down and review the footage and look through it because
these things are I don't even know how to put it into words, for
the camouflage and the techniques they use, and they've got nothing but time to
sphere on how to hide from us, so it's hard. Sometimes you got
to record over your shoulder a lot. The menute you turn your head,
they'll move. So yeah, there's just a lot of techniques and a lot
of things to do. I don't want to get stuck in a rut.
I guess you know. I don't want to just getting a rut, and
I'm afraid of doing that, so I'm always trying to improve what I'm doing.
Well, you know the old adage, you're either getting better or getting
worse or whatever it is you're doing. So it's good to hear you're concerned
about self improvement. What's about time for us to get out of here before
we do you do you have any clothing commons you'd like to share. Yeah,
I mean, I said, I've got the YouTube channel. Anybody that
wants to go look at these pictures and stuff. If anybody wants to go
to the Facebook group and join, just answer the questions. If nobody's going
to take two seconds to answer a couple of questions, and you're not gonna
take two seconds to look at a picture. We don't put up with no
laughing emojis and all that crazy stuff. You know, we just don't have
time for I don't have time to argue. I've got so much going on.
I just don't have the time to argue with people or why people virtues
to going whatever it is that they do on there. You know, people
say all kinds of crazy stuff sometimes, and I've noticed that it'll be on
the best pictures too. I've noticed that somebody will be in my group for
six months and they'll never like or comment or do anything. And when I
post a really good picture, all of a sudden, they're really active and
they're disliking it and laughing, and they've got a smart comment to say.
So, I mean, some things are just strange. But yeah, anybody
who wants to come to the group, I welcome anybody. I don't hide
anything I do. I'm not competing with anybody. Everything I do. I'm
just open about it. I'll share any information I have. That's what I'm
doing it for. I don't need to tell you. As sure as a
shame they're assuming the negative people in this community, but that's how it is.
Yeah, I think it is a shame. Oh definitely, well,
Paul, I can't thank you enough for coming back on and updating us on
those experiences. I really appreciate it. No problem to it. I appreciate
you. It goes two ways. If I can never help you in the
future, then by all means, please let me know. But having said
that, thanks against much for your time and have a great night.