WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:07.960 Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and I'm Catherine Hileco. 2 00:00:08.279 --> 00:00:12.679 Every Thursday, we're bringing you a library find, a pick from our archives, 3 00:00:12.759 --> 00:00:17.719 and a parenting or pop culture tidbit or two. Let's start with Catherine's 4 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:25.079 library find of the week. So this week's find is a novel called glass 5 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:31.920 Works by Olivia Wolfgang Smith. And this is definitely a noticed it because of 6 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:40.960 its cover book. Okay, it has this bright orange kind of stained glass 7 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:47.159 looking cover, and so I hitched my I saw it, and I read 8 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:52.079 the blurbs and I was like, this sounds interesting, and so I did. 9 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:59.520 I actually listened to the audio book and I'm not I can't one hundred 10 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:07.640 percent recommend it, but because it was very uneven. It's basically four step 11 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:18.120 four connected stories about four kind of generations of peeling panes in a window. 12 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:23.560 Yeah, and they all are connected to glass in different ways. There was 13 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:25.879 a bee on the cover, which would cause me to want to put it 14 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:30.319 down, or yes, that there's a bee that stinging insect of some sort. 15 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:34.200 The bee is important, obviously, I would hope. So if it 16 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:38.200 made it to the cover, made it on the cover, yeah, So 17 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:44.079 I mean, some of the of the four are more interesting than others and 18 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:51.760 just better told stories. And some of the reviews I read agreed with that 19 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:56.959 said the same thing that especially the first one was was my favorite, and 20 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:01.480 was a lot also mentioned in other reviews. And the first one was set 21 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:09.719 in nineteen ten, and I just, yeah, I liked that one as 22 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:14.680 well, you know, I'm I mean, I always like historical fiction. 23 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:20.520 And even the other two out of the three remaining ones were also you know, 24 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:23.280 one was nineteen thirty eight and one was nineteen eighty six, so it 25 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:30.439 wasn't like they were set in the present. But but anyway, it was 26 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:38.240 still it was still worth listening to and thinking about, you know, this 27 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:45.759 motif of glass that went through it. The first the first story was about 28 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:53.000 a glass blower who made like scientific models, and then the second one was 29 00:02:54.560 --> 00:03:00.840 his son who kind of wanted to be a priest. This poor, sad, 30 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:07.599 little little teen he was raised with completely no no religion at all and 31 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:13.280 basically very little parenting. I mean, he was kind of left to his 32 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:20.240 own devices, and he would go to church and he felt at home and 33 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:24.639 he started to feel like he belonged, even though he would never like talk 34 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:34.520 to any He just he just liked being in churches. And he finishes high 35 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:40.080 school and he thinks he can go to seminary like he's he's probably never been 36 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:46.120 to again. And he tries to go to seminary and they're like, honey, 37 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:52.479 you this isn't going to work, you know, like they try to 38 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.719 let him down easy, but you know, so anyway, he goes to 39 00:03:55.800 --> 00:04:01.599 work for a maker of stained glass and thinking like, maybe I can kind 40 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:05.039 of, you know, work in a church. I just won't be a 41 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:11.960 priest, you know. And then the next story, the person is a 42 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:17.560 window washer, like in high rise you know, skyscrapers. And then the 43 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:28.120 last one, the main character works in a business that takes people's ashes, 44 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:38.759 people's cremains and puts them into glass blown like orbs. Oh my goodness, 45 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:42.680 but you're not allowed to call them paperweights. That's like a thing in the 46 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:46.680 story. You don't call it a paperweight. So anyway, that's that's kind 47 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:51.759 of how the glass goes through it. So you can think of all the 48 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:57.959 different ways that glasses is used. I mean there's more. They didn't even 49 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:02.600 cover all the ways of glass. I will say that the ending, it 50 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:06.199 just stopped like, oh, and it was one of those things where because 51 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:11.759 I was listening to it as an audiobook, yes I roughly knew that, 52 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:15.639 like it was getting close to the end, but I wasn't fully paying attention, 53 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:19.639 whereas if you were reading a book, it's very clear that the end 54 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:24.040 is coming, and this one it just got to like, oh, thank 55 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:30.240 you for listening to like, what did I skip a trap? I get 56 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:36.319 something accident like, yeah, so that was alarming. But it does allow 57 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:40.879 you to think, well, okay, this is what I think happened. 58 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:45.040 Yes, you know, and finish it in a way that feels suitable. 59 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:49.319 Here's what I miss about audio books is the signposts that you get with the 60 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:53.639 paper book, right, uh, you know, and the fact that you 61 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:57.160 can kind of flip ahead and see where is this going and just ending like 62 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:00.720 that, oh, well shocked. You shouldn't do that. Don't do that, 63 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:02.879 people, I completely do and always do. And if I don't like 64 00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:08.120 where it ends, I possibly don't read it. But so maybe that's all 65 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:11.360 your books are good punishment for me, because you gott to listen all the 66 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:15.439 way to the end to find out you don't like it. Yeah, yeah, 67 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.279 And I can't say it's not that I didn't like this, It just 68 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:26.439 was a very mixed bag. I would say, okay. But then just 69 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:30.120 as I as I was listening to it over the last few days, then 70 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.959 it showed up on the staff pics table at the library. Oh wow, 71 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:41.160 from someone else. So we've now had several conversations about it, and they 72 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:44.600 were like, well, after I read that, I had to read like 73 00:06:45.959 --> 00:06:51.839 sort of a self helpy like affirmations and you know, like short little poems 74 00:06:51.920 --> 00:07:01.839 and peptas, because there was quite a bit of gloom and sadness. Oh 75 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.839 my gosh, you're really selling this thing. I know, I know, 76 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:11.879 but you know, sometimes the library find is that's true. It's not necessarily 77 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:17.439 what you expect, not always, not always uplifting. Yeah, you know, 78 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:21.639 if you've if you've watched the show about the guy locked in a hotel, 79 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:25.040 and you've watched a show about the people trapped on the island, and 80 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:28.519 you want a little something to light in your mood. This is not it. 81 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:38.240 This is not it. But maybe you have something that that well, 82 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:42.519 I am going to recommend something that, as I'm talking about, is not 83 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:46.240 yet out but will be by the time you were listening to this, and 84 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.519 that is the latest album? Do we still call them albums? Is album 85 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:54.160 still a word that we use? Sure? I'm feeling old because I think 86 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:59.439 album and I think big round, black thing made out of wax in a 87 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:03.279 huge hardboard cover with lots of pictures and lyrics, And that is a thing 88 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:09.240 that, if it exists at all, exists barely collection songs. There's people 89 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:16.639 digital assemblage. I mean, Taylor Swift sells five thousand different variations on physical 90 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:22.160 merch but I don't think that's how people completely consumer stuff. I think they 91 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.160 just buy those to put on on their shelf. Yeah, I mean there's 92 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:28.639 definitely people who collect vinyl and who yeah, enjoy vinyl. Yeah, but 93 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:33.600 she does them in all different colors. Its supposed to be black anyway. 94 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.360 I love you, Taylor anyway. One of my favorite artists who I've spoken 95 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:45.039 with about here before is Hardy, who is sort of partially the way through 96 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:48.159 his morphing from a country artist to a hard rock artist, and he's kind 97 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:54.279 of just just mixing the two in a way I find delightful, especially when 98 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.440 I'm in a mood to listen to something really loud and screamy with lots of 99 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:03.639 f words. So he has a new new album out. I'm an old 100 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:11.600 lady album out called Quit with two exclamation points, and it's inspired by apparently 101 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:15.840 he was playing in a bar in his early days and when he went through 102 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.120 his tip jar, somebody had written quit on a napkin and put it in 103 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:24.080 there, and Sam Harsh, so he has a song really more of a 104 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.440 rap about that. And then a collection of songs, about five of them 105 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:31.759 have already dropped, and I've listened to them and enjoy them. So I 106 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:37.679 am looking forward to listening to the whole collection, which you can do right 107 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.639 now as you're listening to this. And I am jealous today recording me is 108 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:48.600 jealous because I cannot yet. It's coming out tonight actually tomorrow as we record 109 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:52.519 this. So go take a listen to that. Especially, you know, 110 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.480 maybe if you've been feeling a lot, reading a lot of gloomy stuff and 111 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:58.720 you just want to be able to scream again, this would be a good 112 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.639 one to do it. Do it too, pretty sure, there's lots of 113 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:05.840 screaming. I enjoy that. I enjoy a good scream. He does it 114 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:16.720 well, So yay Hardy, congratulations on the new collection of musical selections and 115 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:22.440 Also last week I mentioned my sub stack, which we'll be dropping every Thursday, 116 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:28.639 and one just dropped as we're recording this, and another one will have 117 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.840 dropped by the time you're listening to this, so go check that out too. 118 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:35.159 I hope it does not make you scream. But you know what, 119 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:45.279 who knows you wanted to you know, prompt discussion and entertainment. Right, 120 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:50.600 Yeah, the one we're dropping is I as we record this today, is 121 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.600 about obnoxious things being on in a doctor's waiting room when you're captive. So 122 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:58.320 I pretty much felt like screaming when I saw the news was on. But 123 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:09.440 and you can relate to the protagonists of both Lost and Gentlemen in must right, 124 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.360 because there are captives, that is true, But they don't have the 125 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.720 news on, so they're they're a little better than me, but still and 126 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:24.480 they're not getting needles stuck in their eyes yet better yet. Well, what 127 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:31.120 are we going to talk about this week? From our extensive and ridiculous archives. 128 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:37.600 This week we are throwing it back to July of twenty twenty. Oh 129 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:43.519 my goodness, remember those days. I remember those captives speaking of being captives. 130 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.600 So we did an episode called Simply Refusing to simplify. And we were 131 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:58.720 responding to a video about minimalism which was saying that there were ten things that 132 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:03.399 we should simplify. Oh my goodness, we can't even man, you need 133 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:11.320 to simplify your yes, absolutely, because you just these are the things. 134 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:16.279 Okay. Were they off giving a new option to just pick one or did 135 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.360 this individual really think we were going to do ten? I believe they were 136 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:26.039 suggesting that we speaking to people who need to simplify. They imagine that these 137 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:31.320 people can handle ten things. Yeah, all right, so right away we 138 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:33.720 see a problem, right exactly, we see if you stand your audience, 139 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:41.360 l Yeah. So these these ten things on in this video were possessions, 140 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:45.919 Okay, I mean that's like what you think of first, Yes, right, 141 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:48.519 that's what we all need to know we need to do when we don't 142 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:56.120 okay, Time commitments like well sure, I mean, quitch job, sell 143 00:12:56.159 --> 00:13:01.000 your children, just stay home. The third thing is your goals, you 144 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:05.000 know, I like, I guess that's what's driving your time commitments and your 145 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.399 possessions. Is can I trim the goal of simplifying? Can I get right? 146 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.039 I would like to get rid of that one negative thoughts? You know, 147 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.519 no problem they're easy. PC just like stop doing that. So this 148 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:20.360 person's writing an annoying article and they're saying, don't you have negative thoughts? 149 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.240 Get rid of those negative thoughts. I know what you're thinking right now, 150 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:30.840 But that's simplify, simplify. The next one is we should simplify our debt 151 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:37.320 okay, like okay, sure, no problem again, like these are at 152 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:45.200 odds with one another because our time, yes, committed to our earning money. 153 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:50.879 Yes. Another and next one is words. This is where we start 154 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:56.679 getting into the listical problem. You should simplify your words by keeping your speech 155 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:01.960 plain and honest, mean what you say, avoid gossip, like what how 156 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:07.600 does that simplify your at least many words in that? In that? Yeah, 157 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:11.919 and I think you're reaching like stay in your lane, yes, you 158 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:15.200 know it really is. And how many words was this listical? I think? 159 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:20.039 Well it was a video. It was a video. Yeah, listen, 160 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.759 take your own advice yep, yeah, I mean ten things come on. 161 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:33.200 Yeah. The next one. The next one is artificial ingredients. Again, 162 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:39.720 so making all your own food so you don't have the artificial ingredients is 163 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:45.279 going to solve your time commitment problem. How I think you're just a debt 164 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:50.080 problem, your debt problem and your negative thoughts problem. I think that would 165 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:54.960 create many more right and your possessions because you have to get all the different 166 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:58.600 gadgets that would allow you to make things you could just pick up in a 167 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:03.720 box much more easily. Right, oh my. The next one is screen 168 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:11.480 time, which is rich coming from a video video, not miss screen. 169 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:16.559 We don't mean this screen, we mean those other screens. The next one 170 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:22.399 is simplify your connections, like and I had to write down what it said 171 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:28.840 about this. Relationships with others are good, but constant distraction is bad. 172 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:33.039 Focus on the important, not the urgent. This is word salad, Like, 173 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:39.919 what are you talking about? Really? How does this simplify? Realistical? 174 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.679 And the deadline is coming up and you're like, oh crap, I 175 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.120 don't have anything to say. I do not stand. I'm sorry, Aunt 176 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.960 Mary, I'm simplifying my relationships. Please never contact me. I can't. 177 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:56.600 How do you do that? Exactly? You're just going this is ghosting people, 178 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.440 is what they're saying. Right, Yeah, yeah, I think you're 179 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:03.960 right, And so negative thoughts will be coming at you for sure, whether 180 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:07.919 you have any or not. Yeah, goads, but you know, we'll 181 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:15.240 cut down on your commitments because you won't have any friends dispendal and uh oh 182 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:22.279 yikes. And then the final one was simplify your life by not multitasking. 183 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:27.759 That's the one I think that we talked about a lot on our past episode, 184 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.200 Like, yeah, sure, easy for you to say. I mean, 185 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:36.840 if you simplified everything else, then I guess you wouldn't have that much 186 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:41.919 to do other than you know, make your own everything. But don't don't 187 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:47.639 be watching a screen while you're making that apple sauce scratch because you know, 188 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:56.879 to any podcasts Nope. Yeah, yeah, Well I hope that this person, 189 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:07.359 who was obviously amish except for somebody must have secretly recorded it is a 190 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.839 gift to be simple, you know and all but no, thank you, 191 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:21.000 no. Yeah, and the thing that enjoys my overstuffed life and the task 192 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:26.680 of simplifying it is more trouble in its world. Yeah. And as we 193 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:30.480 talked about last time around, and every time I I review these things, 194 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:37.680 it's like, you could, you could do this, but you your entire 195 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:42.839 family has to be fully on board, yes, which no, which no, 196 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:51.960 it's certainly not happening at this address. So yeah, like I would 197 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:56.720 be fine with cutting down some possessions, but right, they're not mine. 198 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:03.440 Yeah, cut down and again on the topic of listical disease, any one 199 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:07.160 of these individually, I would be interested in reading about it. Yeah. 200 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.119 I think it is good to limit your negative thoughts, and let's talk about 201 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:14.480 how we do that. What are some negative thoughts would be good to get 202 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:17.880 rid of? Perhaps there are toxic relationships in your life that it would be 203 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:21.039 good to let go of. The you know, certainly let go some of 204 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:23.200 those connections. How do we evaluate our connections? How do we go about 205 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:29.559 gracefully withdrawing from them? Any of those by itself would be an interesting article, 206 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:33.880 but it would take a depth of thought about that topic that this this 207 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:41.480 format or this creator clearly does not want to expend. Yeah, the entire 208 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:47.119 video is either two minutes or four minutes. Like, it's very short and 209 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:51.119 full disclosure. I say this to somebody who's been writing all my life, 210 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:52.839 and there are definitely times when you're going to write about one topic and you 211 00:18:52.880 --> 00:18:56.039 think, oh, man, I don't know what to say about this. 212 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:57.079 It's gonna be too much work. I was gonna make a list of ten 213 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:00.880 things and this will be one of them. Absolutely understand how this happens, 214 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:08.279 but it's kind of a you know, simplify. Perhaps you could simplify and 215 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:14.400 just present one of these right and say something useful about it instead of word 216 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:18.039 salad. Don't be expecting that from this podcast. By the way, I'm 217 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:26.440 just saying generally exactly, thank you for listening. 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