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R two side and I Heeart Radio
Station. Good afternoon, everybody, welcome

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to I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,

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He's Jagens As got our guy Jackson
in today. I have two things

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to say to you guys. Aren't
you don't you wish you Michael Block,

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Jaken Zalis oh man? How about
that? And aren't you Jason? How

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about them Nuggets? Yeah, congrats
you guys. They're not over. It's

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not over. I wanted to go
six. It's pretty much over. I

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wanted to go to games. Does
that bet does have to hit exactly six

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for you to win? No?
No, I've already got them to win

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the whole West. No, no, no, I know that. But

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but yeah, bet that you made
on the number of games, yeah,

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and has to hit on the number
yeah. Yeah, But I have him,

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I have him winning the West.
Yeah, I know that. I

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know that and going to it and
winning the championship. Right. So I

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went with three game, six game
six, game six, to win it

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game six, and then to win
the West, and then to win the

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West and then twin it all.
Okay, so you have three bets on

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him, yeah, just most recently. Yeah. So how about that Block

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guy, that crazy story, right, you know, the club Pro.

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He qualifies and now he's like he's
on his way. He won two hundred

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and thirty thousand dollars. Well I
thought two eighty eight. Maybe he's two

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eighty eight. Well two hundred and
change. Okay, So he's kind of

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more than Anything's kind of changed his
life because now he gets you're playing the

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PGA again next year, right,
did you get to play in any others

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or just that one? Just that
one now, um, because you need

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to win. Like he's playing this
week, but he's playing in the in

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the Charles Schwab Tournament this week,
but he's playing on a sponsors exemption.

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So he's got it because of all
the hoopla he got invited to play this

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week. He can play some of
those, but in order to get his

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PGA Tour card, either has to
qualify through the Corn Ferry Tour, which

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I don't think he's playing, or
he's got to you know, like he's

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got to win a tournament. Uh
you know, so you win a tournament,

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you automatically get your card for I
don't know how many years. Yeah,

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okay, I think like five years
or something like that. But so

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he's not officially a PGA Tour card
carrying guy, but he's got a chance

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to go play again this weekend and
and probably from future game makes the money

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that kind of thing, so,
um, yeah, you know it's it's

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a huge opportunity. Guys from Mission
via Hoo. I looked up the golf

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course that he's the pro app and
it's it's, you know, just kind

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of a cold course. They're in
Mission Via Hoo, and uh, you

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know, like the pros that we
have at our golf courses here and now

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he's you know, made of killing
in the PGA. Look I've said before,

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you have golf guys on or got
from golf women. Um, if

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you're you run hot for four days, that's all you need. You just

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running out for four days, just
like kind of playing poker or playing anything.

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If you run hot like my nug
it's yeah or whomever. Yeah,

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but you know he played well,
he had that hole in one that it

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was on Belido that's gone viral.
He hit it into the hole on the

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fly, which that never happens.
You know, it's that's a really hard

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thing to do. But no,
when you when you're when you're on a

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charmed life for a week or a
day, that I enjoy it. You

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got to play with Rory McIlroy,
you know, so probably the you know,

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one of the maybe top five biggest
stars on the tour right now,

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played the final round with them.
I saw that he his caddy got got

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Rory to sign his his caddy bib
for him. He's got he wasn't that's

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particular right in seventy seventy seventy What
do you shoot the last day? Um,

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I don't remember, but he he
finished the fifteenth place. Yeah,

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I know, which is got to
make a putt on the last finished and

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he hit that barely going in.
And now he knows he's playing in the

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PGA again next year. Yeah,
I mean, how cool is that?

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Guy's not gonna sleep for a year, you know, so that you know,

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I think I saw some of the
stuff, you know he was I

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think on Saturday, Um, they
were interviewing him while he was walking to

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the green on one of the holes. And you know, he sounded really

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cool and just seems like a very
Downdoorth kind of guy. You know,

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you never know, but uh,
you know he's uh generated a lot of

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conversation and a lot of people are
pulling for hims. It's very cool,

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Okay, cool cool. And about
them Nuggets, they're just playing well,

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we'll get to the Boston Celtics or
the or the heat in a second.

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Um. The Lakers, I know, probably over evaluated the first couple of

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series. Um, they are who
they are. They're probably fortunate to get

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to this point, don't you think. Um, not really, I think

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they took advantage of other teams not
really being healthy. Well yeah, this

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is this is the first like real
healthy, you know together teams. They're

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a good team. Yeah, they're
playing right that this postseason. The Gridgies

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are missing to their top guys.
UM, Warriors chemistry issues. Um.

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And now the Nuggets, who are
who've been resting for the back half of

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the regular season and they've been clicking
all postseason. So um, you know,

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the Lakers, they've just been looking
a lad in games and not making

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the rider judgements. I feel like
to capitalize when they've had the moments to

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capitalize to close out some of these
games. I also think that the analysts

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or whomever are overreacting to Lebron playing
Lebron's tiredness right right, right, Look,

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they're they're just getting out played.
They're getting and they're getting be You

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know, they can make you look
old when they beat you. Without question,

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I think they're overbold. He's always
still a good player, right,

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he's taking shots. He probably shouldn't
take those three points sweets what two for

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whatever. Yeah, it's a really
bad percentage. But I do think his

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ankle is like lower bodies, that
something's wrong. I feel like because before

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you have the ankle injury in the
regular season earlier this year, he looked

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like a different player in my opinion, But now I think he has an

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older player, and he gets playing
a lot of minutes and he's asked to

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do so much because certain guys in
the team aren't able to step up when

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they need to step up, Like
no Daniel Russell, He's supposed to be

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ours writing plant guard, but he's
been playing really awful this yeares. So

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Lebron has to um take care of
the point composition because you know, we

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don't have one exclude you know,
awesome reasons, of course, but I

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think he's asked to do so much, which makes it looks, you know,

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make them look bad. Right,
Okay, so I you know again,

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it's it's once when a team makes
you look bad, they're gonna find

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sure what what they think. Specifically
in the Lebron's cases, they well,

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he's old and he's getting tired of
He hasn't been old for a lot of

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games this year. Right, either
you're good or you're not good. He's

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still good, he's still got it. Yeah, he's just slower. He's

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just slower. Um, So I
think too many people over evaluate things.

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And then of course Boston, Wow, who probably has the most talent.

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We've discussed that. Yeah, the
most talented on paper, right, but

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you know which doesn't right, And
then he continued to to gangbuster this whole

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thing. Yeah, hey, they
could be they could be the Nuggets.

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They can win this Yeah. No, they've done enough now and played well

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enough and the way they're dominating,
uh, Boston, but certainly they can

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win this thing. Match up,
it should Yeah, it could go six

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or seven either way. The one
thing I heard this morning that was very

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interesting to me. Damon was with
Boston. We knew that right for a

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couple of years. He took the
job at Georgia Tech midway through the year,

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maybe February issue, I think I
can't remember when. H No,

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after the season Mark Mark and he
took over that. So he left Boston

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And it was mentioned this today that
he was the he was the Jim Roseborough

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to the lud Olson, that the
guy for the players, He got the

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messages to the players, score the
cut coach who doesn't really have a whole

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lot of personality. It's kind of
just kind of straightforward and blah blah blah

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that they've kind of detached from the
head coach, and Damon was the guy

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to connect them too. And we've
talked about the importance of that. You

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never know, we talked about the
importance of that, and that's been missing.

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I mean, you never know when
when one guy leaves and what he

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takes with him, you know,
the one that sticks, that sticks in

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my mind, that's more you know, more local was you know, you

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know, after the great football season
arizon I had in ninety they go into

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ninety nine and and before the season, Um, you know, I remember

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talking to Tom Dundalston, who's the
sports information actor. I can tell this

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story now because he's not that guy
anymore. But we had, you know,

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we had a preseason party like we
always did, and I said,

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Tom, how are they going to
do? And he says, this team

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needs a leader. He said,
so you talked about it before. Calvin

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Efon was that leader, and it
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ended a point six and six,
right, and there was a disaster from

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going to start right right, you
know, Yeah, and they didn't have

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a guy that you're going into the
Penn State game that year that was going

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to you know, have high expectations
for his teammates. They got blasted by

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Penn State and the season basically ended
right there. If you want to talk

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about that, the school more more
timely the basketball team this year? Right?

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Who was the leader? Right?
Potto can't identify who it was?

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No on the court. You might
have been two bells on the court.

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But but okay, but what else
think of those teams after t J McConnell

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that, Yeah, no, John, you know, you gotta have a

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guy, whether it's a coach or
a player that guys looked too, and

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who can draw something out of guys? Right? And you know, as

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he said, for Loot, it
was ros Or you know before that it

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was you know, was Ricky bird
Song and Kevin o right, uh,

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you know, and and then some
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you mentioned, you know, guy
like Calvin Efon or yeah, you know

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you know other guys like that throughout
the years on different team. In ninety

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seven it was Miles Uh. You
know, he wasn't the best guy on

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the court, but he was he
put those guys gave him a will to

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win. Again, what was the
big difference between the eighty seven and eighty

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eighteen Steve Kerr Not just because he
could shoot exactly, but because he was

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on the court right, and there
were certain things that you know, we're

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only acceptable. Well we had uh
and I think you've known this from the

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guys from the book. Um who
got tell me? Tell me? Uh?

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God getting old our la guy the
musician. We said, he he

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won. He played hard for Steve, Steve in addition to Loot, but

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he didn't want to disappoint Steve.
Right, And you have those guys when

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you play. I'm sure you were
on a team or two where you know

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you don't want to screw up.
Yeah, but you also don't want to

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disappoint the guy that's leading the way, of course. Yeah, you always

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want to you know, not do
anything that you shouldn't been doing, going

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to make sure that you're contributing to
the team, right and not stopping out

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a line really and raising enough with
other guys right, right, And we've

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seen that good end that Well,
that's the all important chemistry, and sometimes

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chemistry can be without your around one
person, dude, one person can bring

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chemistry to a team two thousand Trier
right, brow had none. The leaders

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on that team were not good guy
for that all for one right, yeah,

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and that and that was as talented
a team as as a Sean Miller

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add with Lowry markin and and stuff
and they and they f right, No,

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the importance of all that is very
very crucial. We have a good

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show today. So a team,
we're gonna talk to a coach. You

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had a team of talent and probably
a leader coach. How do you say

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her last name? Tricia? I
think it was Tan, just Tan.

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Okay, she's with South Point.
We're gonna Oscar again though, because but

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I think if I recall the time
we had her on last year after she

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want to stay championship. I think
it's Tricia Tam I'll text her just to

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get in case. And then Matt, A lot of things have happened over

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the weekend of recruiting stuff and again
going back to Arizona fans losing their minds

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about a month ago, maybe a
month and a half ago. And now

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look look at the team that Tommy
Tommy Layde's gonna put on the floor.

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Oh and that's been love to talk. What about where are the guys that

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ripped into Tommy about all the recruiting
there back in their mom's basements. They

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got their big bag of Cheetos out. They're sitting there in their boxer shorts

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and they're not saying anything. They're
another other sites that we don't want to

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talk. They'll come out when they
start to lose or they lose again.

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And see I told you they didn't
go back again, right if they start

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because this this this looks like,
you know, we were having a conversation,

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but not only looks like, you
know, very another very good team

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kind of built differently, right,
Yeah, guys that you think might be

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you know, with it with the
addition of of the San Diego State kind

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of little maybe a little more physical
at least one position. Yeah, maybe

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they don't have a guy that a
big guy that's gonna run the floor like

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like a zulus. But you know, they might have a couple of shooters

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outside ump of a bunch of tall
guys. But we won't know until we

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know. But I do like their
chances to finish at least in the top

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two or three again in the conference. Right. And there were some schedule

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needs today that we'll leave for U
for Jason during UH breaking during breaking news.

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But that's a hell of a schedule
that's been put finally, FONT nice

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home games for your ticket holding me
up? Yeah, okay, cool,

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um anything else let you have on
your top year. Um, you know,

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well let's let's let's throw this one
out because we're we're we're keeping it.

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We're keeping tabs. On Arizona women's
golf, they're trying to finish in

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the top eight in their in their
UH in the NC Double A tournament,

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they've dropped. They started out in
eighth place today, but they are now

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in tenth place, or two strokes
out of eighth place. I still got

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a bunch of golf. Let the
other other players are between the twelve and

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fourteenth holes. But they're six over
today, so they've got to turn on

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the jets a little bit to get
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which in would put them into the
uh the final eight with um or the

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next the match play that they they
have coming next, So they got to

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get up there. Um it's Brackett
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So they got they gotta step it
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and Oklahoma State to get there.
I don't know if this is part of

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breaking, but I'll just mention the
baseball, do you know what seed they

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are? They're the eighth seed.
So they they got in. They got

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they got into the eighth seed.
They play a su tomorrow. The situation

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that they're in is that they it's
a it's a it's a three team round

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robin over the next three days.
So they play two games because they're the

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lowest seed in there, you know, as the eight. See, they

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have to win their two games to
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don't, if they're in a tie
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it's based on your seat. So
um, they can't. Uh, they've

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got to win two. No,
they just play two games. Okay,

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They PLAYSU and then Oregon State ten
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playing up up in Phoenix, and
so I'm sure those games are on PAC

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twelfth network and so very important that
they win both their games. And they've

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got ASU first thing tomorrow morning.
Okay, let's take the break. All

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right, let's go take our break. We'll have Matt Murdeno. We'll talk

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about some basketball recruiting and football.
There's stuff going on football wise. I

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guess you could say it's a pretty
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chola the corner. Hey, you've
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What's up with Arizona had a pretty
good weekend. Yeah, I mean

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it's uh kind of happened all at
the same time. Everything that kind of

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felt like he was building up,
you know, kind of happened in minutes

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a part of each other. But
Arizona, that was probably that transfer game,

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as everybody has to be in twenty
twenty three, and U picked up

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two big transfers, one in football, one in basketball. Obviously the basketball

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line we're talking about Arizona basketball is
probably gonna get more attention right now.

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But yeah, just a really good, solid day for Arizona and too quality

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pieces to both teams that will I
think, you know, factor and so

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success for both football and basketball next
season. You know, we we've talked

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a lot mad about how Arizona fans
just panic when you know, you lose

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one guy, and we all saw
how they lost their minds. You know,

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we talked about after the Princeton loss
then they didn't get the guy from

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from Crayton. But you know,
Tommy Lloyd doesn't panic. I mean,

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he pretty much had this lined up
long ago, didn't he Or did he?

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Yeah? I mean that's the thing. When you were talking to people

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last month and they were, you
know, losing their minds over Arizona and

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Tommy Lloyd can't recruit, I was
like, it's it's April. If you

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remember back to last year, there
are two trunks. They added them after

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the NBA deadline in June. I
mean you have to if you get to

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July or August and you're still having
these issues and these holes in the roster,

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maybe you can talk about panic time
he can't recruit. But um,

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there's always a plan. I think
I think fans forget that that college coaches

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always have a plan. They wouldn't
be who they are unless they do have

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a plan. And the one thing
that's been consistent throughout the Tommy load air

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is that he just does not panic
about recruiting. He has a different approach

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than Sean Miller in terms of how
he looks at high school prospects, and

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he really targets it's a very select
group. There's not a lot of offers

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going out. Um, they really
focus in on a few guys and if

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they don't get those guys, they
move on to whatever the next plan is

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that they're usually pretty happy about.
And so, um, you know,

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when you're talking about Arizona with Tommy
loved with Jack Murphy, international recruit is

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always going to be, you know, very relevant to them, and they're

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always going to have guys that they
feel like they can pull on and pull

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across, you know, over from
overseas and get them to Arizona. And

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um, seems to be the case
again. And then there's not the transfer

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portal, which um, you know
they've been successful with and is always going

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to have kind of endless amounts of
opportunities to bring in pretty talented players.

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And so shaped up pretty well.
I think they have a really you know,

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all roster at this point. Maybe
could be some more movement, no

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moving forward, but for right now, it's you know, a pretty productive

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offseason. And I think just as
much you know, talent on the rosters,

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it was rosters. Man, Like, you know, we see Tommy

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here, we get it, you're
getting press conference and stuff. We kind

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of feel like we've gotten to know
him. But you talk to recruits and

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players that he's in contact with,
what what's your sense of sort of what's

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his persona, what's his image out
there among recruits and coaches, someone that

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they can really get along with.
I'm someone else they really want to play

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for in a lot of cases,
and I'm you know, I was talking

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to to Carter Bryant, who you
know there is their big twenty twenty four

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commit and um, you know the
people around him and everyone's very comfortable.

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I think there's just a comfort level
of Tommy Lloyd and they feel like he's

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someone that's on their side and somebody
that wants him to do well and wants

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him to develop, and um,
somebody they can just feel like they can

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be comfortable around. I think that's
the kind of common theme that you hear

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when you hear about Arizona's staff and
Tommy Lloyd in particular, is just there's

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a comfort level there that, um, you know, players really like.

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It's a changing game. Um,
there's not a ton of players. They're

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looking for the guy that's going to
be in their face and streaming at them

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all the time. They want the
guy that's going to be able to coach

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them and kind of love them up
at times. And so, you know,

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I think there's just that that appeal
about playing for Tommy Lloyd that he's

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again just kind of on their side
and there's someone that is going to be

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pulling for them no matter what.
I think that's really made an impact,

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and I think the players that have
ticked them really want to play for Tommy

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Lloyd. And I think that's become
clear when kind of looking at you know,

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who they've added and where they've gotten
those guys from. It's funny,

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Matt, because in the past when
they had Sean as the coach, and

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you knew this because they'd say,
well, I'm going to play for Sean

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and felt comfortable, feel like a
family, and I like his style of

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running up and down to get here, and that didn't happen now you know

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what happens. Yeah, I mean, I think the if there's one overarching

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team about recruiting it overall in twenty
twenty three is that there's so many different

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avenue to reach players and the and
for players and their families to evaluate coaches

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and just different different ways to see
what they're doing. And you can take

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so many these visits and all those
things. If there's just it's more clear

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what a coach is about, you
know, these days, and I think

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players are starting to kind of wise
up to that. I think before there

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was a lot of just kind of
trusting what coaches were telling them, and

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then they get on campus and not
even at Arizona, just across the country

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and see that, oh this is
a little bit different than what I was

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told as a recruit, where I
think now there's a lot more transparency and

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um players, there's just a lot
less kind of behind the scenes going on

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and players kind of understand okay,
I can see then. I think for

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transfers in particular, that's really the
case, and that's really important because they're

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approaching it going okay, especially at
the level like Arizona recruits at. It's

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pretty clear cut. It's Hey,
what can you offer me in terms of

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an ill money and what's my role
going to be? It's pretty clear and

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they can figure out everything else later. And yes, so that that short

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visit time that you have the coach
on campus matters and they want to feel,

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you know, confident in their decision
that way. But when you look

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at transfers, both in football and
basketball, it's pretty clear right now,

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it's what can you give me in
terms of nil and how do us hit?

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And those When they get those two
things shipped off, you know,

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everything else kind of is secondary,
but I think it makes it. It

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kind of clears up the picture for
everybody. And I think coaches feel like

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they could be more transparent about the
situation. And you see a lot of

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coaches are really like recruiting the transfer
portal for that reason because they don't have

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to you know, wine and dine
these these players and you know, bring

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up the cookie cakes and everything else
for special business. It's more clear cut,

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more business like, and I think
a lot of coaches respect that.

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I think a lot of players are
like, ooh, I'm getting the real

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kind of transparent what's really going to
go on? Because there isn't this whole

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recruiting process. It's if these decisions
are made in a matter of days and

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weeks and sometimes months, but a
lot of times just you know, weeks.

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Is they're trying to de spid where
they're gonna go, and so different

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than when they're high school recruits,
when those relationships are built over years.

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And so I think it's about some
more transparency. And I think it's just

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kind of that way across the board, not only at Arizona, but other

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plays as well. You know,
you talk about guys, you know,

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why don't you find a place you
know where they fit you or what is

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the fit is Tommy is what Tommy
Lloyd does in terms of his just the

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way he just his game. You
know what what the UFA does is that

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conducive to guys feeling like they can
fit in easily, as opposed to say,

406
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:23.400
there go to some really structured offense
or really structured defense or whatever.

407
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:27.240
Uh is that is that one of
the reasons why he can get guys?

408
00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:32.160
I think so. I think that
I think there's such there's kind of a

409
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.359
free flowing element to what they do. I think offensively, obviously, there's

410
00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:37.519
a huge appeal of playing a system
that's up tempo and uh, you know,

411
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.599
allows you know, players like Pshaw
Johnson to do what he does and

412
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:44.960
playing transition and I'm even you know
as you Lois Debellas, they will to

413
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.319
play and transition and doesn't have to
necessarily kidgeonhole him into something that he isn't

414
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:52.839
And so um, I think that
is definitely a big appeal for a lot

415
00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:55.759
of players. And I think they're
proving you with who they're bringing in that

416
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:59.680
they can adapt to to what the
personnel is. And I think you've seen

417
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.279
that, you know, Kashaw Johnson
this way to pick up for Arizona is

418
00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:06.759
kind of a prime example. He's
very different from someone like a Julius Tabellas

419
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:08.160
and what he brings to the game, but he's gonna end up playing the

420
00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:12.480
same position and playing a similar role
to what you know Tabella's played at Arizona

421
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.279
D and they're very different players.
And so I think that on its own

422
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:18.079
tells you, Okay, they can
adapt to what the skill set is of

423
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:22.759
the players that they're bringing in,
and I think that's built into the system

424
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.720
and to what Tommy Lloyd wants to
do. I think there's definitely pillars for

425
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:29.279
what he wants to do and playing
up Temple style and up Temple style is

426
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:30.519
you know, part of that,
and I think that's something that's going to

427
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.559
remain unchanged. He's gonna want to
score a bunch of points, but I

428
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.319
think there's different elements to what they
do that are going to be kind of

429
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.440
unchanging. But outside of that,
there's a lot of flexibility and what you

430
00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:44.319
know, Tommy Lloyd wants to do
and what he brings to the floor.

431
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:47.920
And so I think players see that
and notice that. And I've just looked

432
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.319
at players developing and having success.
I think development is kind of the other

433
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:56.480
key part of this whole process for
all players, for recruits and transfers,

434
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:57.559
I think they just want to,
hey, how can you get me to

435
00:26:57.559 --> 00:27:00.200
the next level. We've talked about
that a lot on the show before the

436
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:03.640
draining where it's NBA NFL is kind
of on the mind for a lot of

437
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:07.000
these players and recruits, and um, you know, they've seen I think

438
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.759
the progress that Tommy load has been
able to make with a lot of different

439
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:11.759
guys, and I think that's been
in a big play of the appeal as

440
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.880
well. So you cover the PAC
twelve down more more than you did before.

441
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:21.319
Okay, Arizona's group is well and
fine, what about the rest of

442
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:25.200
the group. Where does it land
among them? Yeah, it's going to

443
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:26.799
be very interesting. I think you
stelt to kind of figure out where everyone

444
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.079
else is going to end up.
I think USC is going to be a

445
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.200
very interesting team. Um, They've
had a lot of talent, a lot

446
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.279
of younger talent. Um, you
know, they bring back one of their

447
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:38.599
top players, and they're going to
be a very interesting team to watch because

448
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:42.480
they do have a lot of young
talent coming in. UCLA is kind of

449
00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:45.440
in the midst of trying to figure
out what it's going to do. They

450
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.519
have, you know, a pretty
big high school recruiting class, but transfer

451
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:51.839
wise, they haven't really hit hit
hit, hit it big yet and so

452
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.079
um, you know, they could
be taking a step back based on just

453
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.240
their rosters. So Oregan has been
very active and in voting the ton of

454
00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:00.680
transfers, as you would expect for
day all, many kind of always retools

455
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:06.400
out roster. Washington's brought in a
couple of young players. So um,

456
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:07.799
it's gonna be interesting to see kind
of how it all how it all plays

457
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.480
out. But I think Arizona is
going to be very much right in the

458
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.119
mix based on what they've done.
Um, you know, bringing in Jaden

459
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.759
Bradley from Alabama, who somebody they
wanted right when Tommy Wood arrived. I

460
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.519
was kind of their prime target at
one point in time and got very close

461
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.839
to bringing him to Arizona. But
now they get him the second time around.

462
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:27.480
I think he's going to be a
very valuable piece. And bringing in

463
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.279
more international players, you know,
that's kind of a big X factor I

464
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.119
think. So Arizona is where the
international player is going to do and how

465
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:36.920
do they adjust because are they going
to be Is there gonna be someone like

466
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:38.960
as UIs Deblos who's ready to go
right away is able to contribute, or

467
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:41.279
is there going to be someone more
like Henry where it's going to take him

468
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:45.440
some time and maybe see glimpses,
but you need to still see that development.

469
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.720
So that's gonna be the thing for
Arizona that I think changes. You

470
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.960
know, the success changes kind of
on what those guys are able to do.

471
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.599
But so far, I like the
makeup of the roster. M probably

472
00:28:56.599 --> 00:29:00.039
going to add another piece here at
some point, and um, looks like

473
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.759
they probably need another guard within this
rotation. But so far, I mean

474
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.839
it's it feels like it's it's progress
and the roster's coming together pretty well.

475
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.759
A quick question to gonna question,
you know, move do football after this?

476
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.920
Good? A question about nil?
How much of effectored had to play

477
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.000
in for any of the guys here, because we're talking, We talked about

478
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:23.160
it almost every other day and the
importance of Arizona having NIL money. Yeah,

479
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:26.400
I mean, it's it's part of
every decision. I mean, that's

480
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.039
it's it is the top one or
two things that ever your recruit and every

481
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:32.000
player is going to talk a lot
right now, it's kind of a given

482
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.279
that you're going to have some kind
of NIL package put together. It's what

483
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:38.160
coaches are talking about a lot across
the board. Um, you know,

484
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.759
it's it's no longer about you know
what necessarily just about what you can do

485
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.720
for them as a player on the
court. It's it's what can you do

486
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:49.359
for me branding wise and to build
my brand into um, you know,

487
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.200
prepare me for the future that way, and to you know, give me

488
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.200
money right now. And so it's
part of every decision. I think any

489
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:59.680
fan of thinks it's not as be
naive. Um, every coach in the

490
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.960
country wants more of it, wants
it's a bigger ni outpool. Um,

491
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:04.079
it's just part of the game and
it's just part of what goes on.

492
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.039
I mean, the specifics are are
difficult these days. I mean, nobody

493
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:12.319
wants to talk about it necessarily yet
and you know, specific dollar amounts that

494
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:17.200
they're getting and that's still kind of, uh, kind of kept in the

495
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.319
background. But it's it's part of
every decision. And the more money you

496
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:22.799
have, the more more in player
going to be for every player and recruit

497
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.279
right now, because it's just kind
of part of the whole process, and

498
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.079
um, you know, especially the
chance for players. I mean, it's

499
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.960
more clear cut in that sense,
and I think you know it'd bean I

500
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:34.039
used to think that it's not part
of the equation. And the more money

501
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.920
you have available, it's just going
to be put you in better position for

502
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.640
the players you really want. Football. Well, they've got a couple of

503
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.279
minutes to talk about football. They
got the receiver from Colorado who've made a

504
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.960
big splash at their spring game and
then walked out to the door the next

505
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:52.759
day. You know, there's Colorado
guys going all over the place. I

506
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.960
guess the question is, you know, the Colorado wasn't very good, but

507
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.440
how good are these players and how
good of a guy did uh did Arizona

508
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.440
get in the from there? Yeah, it's really interesting. I mean I

509
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.519
had a lot of comments coming back
at me from Colorado fans saying, oh,

510
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:08.400
well, he was not even that
good last year, and you guys

511
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:11.400
are making too big of a deal
about it. But it feels like a

512
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:15.240
pretty significant pickup to me. He
was one of their top two receivers last

513
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.680
year. He was responsible for winning
them their only game last year. He

514
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.880
caught a touchdown in overtime on a
crazy cat that was very Dorian Singer esque.

515
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:29.240
You know, he was had a
decent amount of yards and decent amount

516
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.400
of catches um. Their offense really
struggled last year. They went through a

517
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:37.440
quarterback rotation and really never settling on
any one guy, so they had all

518
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:38.559
kinds of problems. But he was
one of the bright spots to me,

519
00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:42.640
and as he mentioned in the spring
game, he really stood out and really

520
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.400
made an impact. And I'm sure
there's a lot of fans at that point

521
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.319
going, Okay, this is the
guy that everyone you know saw glimpses of

522
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.160
last year and it's only going to
springboard him into you know, this next

523
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:52.960
season. And then, as he
mentioned, he kind of walks out the

524
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.960
door the next day and enters the
transfer portal. And again part of kind

525
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.720
of college sports in twenty twenty three, you have to imagine that he didn't

526
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.880
just have that game and then the
next day to say I'm going to enter

527
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:07.279
the portal. It was probably building, but the spring spring game gives you

528
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.480
an opportunity to be, you know, on display in showcase their abilities for

529
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:14.200
all these teams, and you know, it just made a lot of sense

530
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.920
for Arizona. When you lose Duran
Singer, you need somebody with some experience.

531
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.400
I know there's been a lot of
push for Kevin Green to make an

532
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:24.519
appearance. And that's kind of the
issue of college coaches right now and that

533
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:28.799
they're facing, is that do you
kind of plan for the future and develop

534
00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:32.240
somebody and get some get a younger
player some experience and try and develop him,

535
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.839
or do you go for the more
sure thing, the more proven thing,

536
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:38.960
you know, with someone like Montana
Alimonius Craig, who's proven that he

537
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:43.279
can play at this level and has
had some success and then showcase what he

538
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.480
did in the spring game. It's
a it's a difficult spot to be in,

539
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.160
but I think there was always that
clear desire by Arizona to find another

540
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.279
receiver, a third guy to go
with t Mac and to go with Jacob

541
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.799
Cowing. Um allows you to maybe
move Jacob Cowing back inside into the slot,

542
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:01.039
the more natural position, and based
on kind of what what the situation

543
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.519
was looking like. I don't know
that they could have gone a better fit

544
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:07.160
that was out there, that was
available right now. And um, I

545
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.680
think it is an upgrade over everybody
else that they have, and now they

546
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:13.440
move forward and have a really solid, you know, starting unit there with

547
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:15.960
with the addition. Well, thanks
Matt. One thing I've just learned from

548
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:20.400
that conversation was that I think the
Colorado fans are just as bitter as Arizona

549
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:28.640
fans. It's based everybody's happened.
I realized that there were Riveros. They're

550
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:32.839
all Rivers apparently. Thanks Matt,
I appreciate, thank you absolutely. I

551
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:39.000
guess you know most fans are like
that, fans who care like that,

552
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:43.559
right, Yeah, but it could
be realistic to pain in the ass.

553
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:45.039
I know they are, but what
are you gonna do? Right? At

554
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:49.200
least they're fans. So I was
out yesterday with some good group of friends

555
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:51.759
and they post on Facebook and they
they talk to me about the show.

556
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:53.599
They love the show. We got
more people listening than we think we did,

557
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:59.039
and and people you me know,
and he says, you must love

558
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:01.240
sports. That's ports fan. We
went through that guy and he said,

559
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:05.559
you gotta be you gotta know.
I'm telling you, I don't worry about

560
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.239
stuff like you guys. Do you
know I don't go home crying engine Yeah,

561
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:10.880
yeah, but I'm not gonna cry
at the Dodgers news or I'm not

562
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:16.519
gonna the Lakers. I've that was
once one more than I was nine years

563
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:20.960
old, more than one more than
you needed to. But you understand,

564
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.760
I'm still come on, it's not
that big of a deal. Man.

565
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.719
Okay, let's get out of here
for a little bit. We'll take a

566
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break. We're gonna come back.
We'll take your calls five two zero,

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616
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welcome back Toying the Ball here on
Box Sports fourteen. Cutie, I'm Steve,

617
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he's Jake Man. We have our
boy Jason with us. We're back

618
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:12.840
for the final fourteen minutes. What
else? Maybe because of the calls?

619
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.199
Yeah, yeah, five, two
zero, four, one, six,

620
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.039
seventy four forty again, you know, I mean, look own up to

621
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.840
it, right, If you're one
of those fans losing their minds over the

622
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.880
Arizona basketball recruiting, I'd love to
hear what you have to say. Yeah,

623
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:28.639
Yeah, they're not gonna call him. They're not gonna call Come on,

624
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:30.559
they're not gonna give us a call. Let us know why you lost

625
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:35.360
your mind and do you feel better
about it now? I try to save

626
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:37.079
I know that whatever, guess we
talk about all the time, we try

627
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:40.679
to save the names of the people
who kind of go crazy at the student

628
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:45.199
level, Jason, A lot of
people talk a lot of crap. No

629
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.039
really, I think for us students, we trust Tommy Lloyd, like like

630
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.679
you guys have mentioned before, like
he has shown you know that he can

631
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.639
coach a team, he can produce, get a win obviously, then turn

632
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.159
and play tournament play. We aren't, you know, going where we need

633
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.360
to going out far as we expect
them too. But as far as you

634
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:04.960
know the games most of the most
part, you know, he's been able

635
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.639
to produce a good enough team that
we can trust him to recruit good players

636
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:12.920
and produce on the on the court
slum yea. Yeah, but there were

637
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:15.920
a bunch of them, Jay,
they were everywhere and they were loud.

638
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:20.880
Yeah. Yeah, are knew it? I knew it. Faith blah blah

639
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.159
blah. I've lost you know,
saying I've lost faith in Tommy. Look,

640
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:29.880
it's probably the guy who's been married
and divorced a few times. I

641
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:31.880
lost marriage, I lost the faith
in my wife. Two years into it,

642
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:36.480
yeah exactly, Come on, two
years into it, he's won sixty

643
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:42.599
sub games. Yeah again, once
again. Would rather be a Sue Miller

644
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.440
exactly. Yeah. But we're not
here to tell aboudy Tommy, No,

645
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:49.719
we're not. I mean, give
it a break. We just say.

646
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.239
All we said back then was give
this time, you give to stop losing

647
00:39:53.239 --> 00:40:00.119
your mind that he sucks because one
guy decided to go somewhere else. The

648
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:01.840
issue now though, and I've said
this, I don't know if I said

649
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:05.760
it here, but somewhere else.
Okay, Al's well, and fine,

650
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.280
now you gotta win. Oh yeah, and guess what. It doesn't matter

651
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:13.679
about December January pebbruy matters in March. Yeah, but but you know,

652
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:15.840
but but that's just the thing.
That's all you're saying is, even if

653
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:20.480
you feel like he didn't get a
good recruiting class, wait till you see

654
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:23.280
what happens on the court before he
started saying he's a terrible coach or whatever.

655
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:27.519
And all these people, the ones
that bothered me more than anything,

656
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.719
and I said it a bunch of
times, I'm gonna repeat myself again,

657
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.960
was the people who were saying he
won with with Sean Miller's guy, yea,

658
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:36.960
yea, And will repeat myself again
by saying, and Sean Miller got

659
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.119
fired with Sean Miller's guy. So
I know there were other other factors and

660
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.760
Sean Miller being fired, but he
didn't win with those guys. Let's also

661
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:46.960
say this, and I've been wanting
to say this watching Miami. Okay,

662
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:51.679
these are all top DOTCH players are
obviously there for a reason. Seven of

663
00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:54.960
them went undrafted. It's a group
of put together guys who played with the

664
00:40:55.000 --> 00:41:01.239
sport together. Well, so,
talent wins a lot of games, yeah,

665
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.480
but a lot of times it doesn't
win a lot of games. How

666
00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:07.360
you play, who had more talent? Princeton, Princeton, I'll give you

667
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.960
cla over the weekend, right,
Oh god, we haven't talked about that

668
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:17.360
and who had better uniforms, But
you know, my point is, it's

669
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:20.639
how you played that day. Well, I'm gonna say that USLA would have

670
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:24.039
lost by more if they didn't have
those nice uniforms. Okay, they don't

671
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:27.760
guarantee winning. They just guaranteed that
you'll play better than if you did.

672
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.599
And that was to me one of
the most unbelievable things I've seen in a

673
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:32.840
long time. You know, we
were we were talking about that. I

674
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.920
was actually on the golf course when
that happened, and we were talking about

675
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:42.199
how, you know, how rarely
that happens, especially in women's sports.

676
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.679
Were this was after the first loss, saying that how rarely it happens that

677
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.239
a top seed loses in the first
round at home. I think it happens

678
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.559
more more often than we than we
remember. But they always come back and

679
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.239
win. Right. Yeah, when
they lost the second time, you're thinking,

680
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:59.800
holy emolding to I mean they lost
to Liberty and and uh and Grant.

681
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:04.360
Yeah. One thing you especially don't
see it in women's sports because it's

682
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.599
true to form most of the time, right where the top seeds be the

683
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:12.000
lower season, it happens majority of
the more. Think of Yukon, you

684
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.079
think of Baylor, you think of
of South Carolina. Now you think of

685
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.960
the Stanford that they just don't lose. You know, they win, they

686
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:23.599
win championships all the time. They
lose to each other, but they don't

687
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:28.719
lose to you know, they don't
lose to Arizona. They don't lose Georgia

688
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:32.400
Tech, they don't lose to you
know. It's so it seems like in

689
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.719
women's sports more predictable as far as
stuff like that goes up from UCLA to

690
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:42.920
lose back to back games at their
own place and beyond of the tournament is

691
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:46.280
crazy, especially for them being this
good. Yeah, but again, Arizona

692
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:50.960
fans, we're bit or may not
be the right word, but you know,

693
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:53.360
the two transfers. Yeah, well
you got what you deserve. YadA

694
00:42:53.440 --> 00:43:00.000
YadA, blah blah blah, you
left us and enough already. Yeah.

695
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:04.480
Well, well there was a lot
of social media there, that's what you

696
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.599
get kind of kind of comments.
I'm like, well, you know,

697
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:12.239
look, they left for probably the
same reason that we're talking about everybody else.

698
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.239
Yeah, and they did get to
the tournament. Write money and and

699
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:20.159
and opportunity and whatnot. Um,
you know, so I'm you know,

700
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:25.800
I'm actually a lot less um unhappy. I don't what the right word is,

701
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:30.079
but it's like you expect it.
Now players are gonna go play where

702
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.440
the money is right, and you
know, we just we just got off

703
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:36.719
the phone with Matt Mordano and you
know, whereas the you know, the

704
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:38.719
amount of money you were getting was
a factor because it was under under the

705
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:43.119
table. But now it's the number
one factor about where kid's gonna play.

706
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.159
And now if the money is there, then they'll talk to you about fit

707
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:52.280
and the coaching and the campus living
conditions and are there enough girls or of

708
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.840
guys? Are there you know enough
of all these things. But number one

709
00:43:55.880 --> 00:44:00.599
on the list has become money because
because in a lot of cases, this

710
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.400
is the only time they're gonna make
money playing their sport, right, Janelle

711
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:07.400
Mionnel is not going to go make
you know, one hundred thousand dollars somewhere

712
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:08.880
playing softball, right, And that's
not assuming that she did make that.

713
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:12.440
But yeah, but I'll just saying
that. But I think if if she

714
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:15.960
got that amount or whatever amount of
money she got, she's only gonna make

715
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.079
this for the time she's a college
a college softball player. And to your

716
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:22.360
point, I think last week,
and I don't mention your points very often,

717
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.239
she was betting ninth. Is that
what you said? She's beting ninth

718
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:29.119
on a pretty good team. Here, she was betting first. Yeah,

719
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.679
she was the best player on the
team. You know, there's the trade

720
00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:36.760
off of being the big the big
fish in the small pot or right or

721
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:38.400
the other way, right, you
know, and and again and now these

722
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:43.239
guys we'll see you know this football
season, these three guys who left for

723
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.039
your USC you know, the most
most visible as Dorian Singer. You know,

724
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:52.159
does he does he become a target
for Caleb Caleb Williams Or is he

725
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:54.280
in you know, every every third
down or something like that, right,

726
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:58.760
or is he playing all the time
and catching passes and you know, making

727
00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.360
the name for himself to get into
the NFL. Why did you come to

728
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:04.920
you? Where did I come?
Um? Well, well you're gonna be

729
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.239
a doctor. Yeah, it made
the most sense. And they offered me

730
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.239
the most amount of money. Well
the money there you go, yeah,

731
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:14.079
money again, so yeah, there
you go. Yeah, I guess I

732
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:16.199
would be the same way. Yeah, yeah, even at that one.

733
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:19.719
I mean, you know, and
it's a it's a different kind of thing,

734
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.320
right, you know, yeah,
but yeah, but you know,

735
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.119
the whole thing. I mean,
that's you know, that's the thing that's

736
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:28.639
a part of a thing that my
daughter went through when she was looking for

737
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.280
you know, she didn't want her
parish to pay for the bill. Duke

738
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.880
offered a nice living over there,
and she did, well, go,

739
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:42.360
baby, go go. I know
she's coming back. Well she well,

740
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.079
she got into the working world for
a year. I didn't a startup and

741
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:50.880
you know it was okay, but
her sights were sent on a PhD all

742
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:52.760
along. She's gonna do that.
So she's coming back and she's gonna get

743
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.039
it here Arizona, which is very
cool, right when she's home this week?

744
00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:00.000
Cool, all right, Arizona has
moved up into a tie for eighth.

745
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.360
Okay in the golf tournament. Uh, there's still at eleven over,

746
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.840
but um so six over for the
day. But two of the teams that

747
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:12.920
we're ahead of them have dropped gone
backwards, so there are three strokes out

748
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.519
of seventh place, so they still
got some work to you. It looks

749
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.199
like they're gonna have to get into
seventh place or I don't know that they're

750
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.039
gonna be able to catch the teams
that are. There's three teams tied for

751
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.400
forts that basically takes up that would
be the six spots, and those teams

752
00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:30.719
are two over where Texas in him
is eight over than Arizona, Pepper DNA,

753
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:35.159
New Mexico or eleven over. So
still hanging on in there there there

754
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.239
players are between the thirteenth and sixteenth
hole, so they still got a few

755
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:42.719
holes left. Dude, maybe catch
up. So I got a text about

756
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:46.719
when Morana was just getting coming on
from someone that we both know me more

757
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:52.440
than you, but he's given you
grief. Um so everyone has what it

758
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.880
has. Who's gonna shoot, who's
gonna score the points? Who's we don't

759
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:58.519
know yet. We don't know yet. I think the luth winning they got

760
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:01.119
last week will probably be one of
the shooters. But they'll find ways to

761
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:07.719
get these guys points. Well,
let me suggest that when Tommy Lloyd is

762
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.960
getting guys, he's getting guys who
he thinks can score, right, because

763
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.639
that because he runs an offense that
puts a bunch of points on the board.

764
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:17.079
If he doesn't think a guy can
shoot the ball, if he doesn't

765
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:22.440
think a guy can score, why
would he go after Yeah, I think

766
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:25.039
one of the key places is going
to be Boswell. Yeah, very efficient

767
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:29.559
shooting guard shooting you know, if
he shoots more, I think that's a

768
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:30.800
good thing, right, I mean, he's shown that he can shoot.

769
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:35.880
I mean he made some incredible I
was saying incredible even know what I mean,

770
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.039
Like he's very efficient, uh,
tough, acrobatic shots. He took

771
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:45.119
some tough shots, tough times,
wasn't afraid to shoot you. He made

772
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.280
some shots in the Pac twelf tournament
that that were you know, that were

773
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:52.119
money. So I think they got
a guy in Boswell who can shoot and

774
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:57.000
he is willing to shoot because remember
there were times that people who didn't you

775
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:59.840
know, people thought Kur shot too
much. There were times they didn't think

776
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:01.400
he's shot enough. Sure, I
take the shot. Sure, And then

777
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.920
the final game they wish he would
not have and they would have had ball

778
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:08.679
as well in there instead. Right, Tommy's not gonna get guys who don't

779
00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:13.360
fit into the offense and can do
what he needs them to do offense.

780
00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:15.679
I still think that Philippe is gonna
be one of one of the good players

781
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:22.159
and the new little WINNI and guy
buy me about all? Please me.

782
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:29.320
That reminds me of our next guests. Uh stand stand? Yeah? Another

783
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:31.880
title we had her own last year
when they went when they South Points coach,

784
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:37.559
but four or five in a row, I don't know, bun bunch.

785
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:40.920
This is her second in a row. Yeah. And then the coach

786
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:44.800
had her had won three or four. Yeah, right, so something like

787
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.039
that, right, Okay, you
know that you're gonna be the boss one

788
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:51.639
of the busses. Right. What
are you gonna cover next year? Um?

789
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:55.719
So I'm mainly gonna be focused on
what and then football? Football,

790
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:01.400
not basketball? No, um,
our main editor will be oh yeah,

791
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:06.079
yeah, he gets the prime star. It's good to be the bus.

792
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:08.239
The prime splus should be football.
Okay, you're the guy. Yeah,

793
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:13.400
the top the top rider at the
Arizona Daily Star in sports, aside from

794
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.000
the columnists, was the guy who
covered you with football. Okay, just

795
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:20.320
so you know, even even after
Arizona got good. Yeah, I mean

796
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.000
when I when I went from football, from basketball to football, sort of

797
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:28.519
like now you're the main guy.
So the citizen there was the basketball before

798
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:32.679
the football, just telling gotcha,
I'm not joking. I'm serious. I

799
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:37.159
believe you. Yeah, I believe
it was just different. It was just

800
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.679
different. You'll have a fun time. Well well, but and part of

801
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:45.440
it was because the you know,
daily paper, afternoon paper, morning paper,

802
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:49.079
Sunday paper. People wanted the Sunday
paper for what was going on in

803
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.840
it on the weekend. Yeah.
Yeah, and it's a big deal obviously,

804
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:57.400
multi big deals. Yeah. And
it'll help you moving forward, definitely.

805
00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:59.840
Yeah. Okay, we got about
two minutes, no more call,

806
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:06.159
you can't call anymore. So we're
gonna have breaking news. Uh, Tricia's

807
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:10.360
zand stand and then more chances at
another another more calls in the afternoon,

808
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:15.960
in the after of the first second
hour, Um, I were you gonna

809
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:20.159
call cover the NFL flex stuff?
No, you can. Okay, here's

810
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.559
here's a little piece of news that
it's come out. So the NFL has

811
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:30.280
uh is um adjusted their scheduling where
they're going to allow two Thursday night games

812
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:35.320
to be flexed. By that,
we mean they can they it might not

813
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be a Thursday, it might not
be on the Thursday schedule now, but

814
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with a month's notice, they can
move a game to Thursday night, um

815
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and they can do it twice a
year, uh in a season. So

816
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there because they can do that on
Monday on Sunday night, and they can

817
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also do it on Mondays right now, so now on Thursdays, which is

818
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a little bit different because you know, Thursday Thursday game versus a Sunday game

819
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is a lot different. But they're
gonna they're gonna allow that two times during

820
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the year. The NFL can change
a Sunday game for Monday game to a

821
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Thursday. That's tough because how do
you prepare a month, But they got

822
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to do it a month in advance. They got to go twenty eight days

823
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in advance. So you've got that, you got that amount of time,

824
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:21.360
but still a change still qui you
know you might have some play you know,

825
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:24.320
and where where people are having some
questions about it, is it for

826
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:29.039
fans. Right, what if you're
the fan that's got a trip planned and

827
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:30.679
you got tickets to the Sunday game, all of a sudden that game gets

828
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:35.480
moved to Thursday. Also, there
was one who Thursday is streamed? Right?

829
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.280
Is it streamed? Yeah? That
that's on on Amazon Prime? How

830
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.360
did that go? I mean,
because I didn't think they did well with

831
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:44.280
it. I can't remember. I
don't remember seeing a Thursday game streamed.

832
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:46.679
I never I watched them. You're
good. You have what is it on

833
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:50.679
Amazon? Amazon? Amazon Prime?
Yeah? If you watched yeah and I

834
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:52.880
didn't watch it, Yeah, get
Amazon Prime, dude. No free shipping,

835
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:57.159
sports fan free shipping. You don't
need it for sport, for being

836
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:00.199
a sports We're gonna at something.
We're gonna have to We're gonna have some

837
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:05.599
that's my charm. That's what I'm
doing it. I'm gonna have to get

838
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:08.320
you stop saying that you're not okay, because I've got a couple of quick

839
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:12.320
questions. We go to break here
and then there's a dark spot, like

840
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.360
there's no commercial, there's there's a
reason for that. The national takes over

841
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.159
and they kind of feel their their
two minutes or whatever, and then we

842
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:22.079
come back. So people ask why
he starts too, Well, that's because

843
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.800
there's there's a two minute a hole
in the hole in the radio right right

844
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that they take care of. We're
coming back. We're always back. Right

845
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.559
at the top of the hour.
Look at your watch or your clock or

846
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.760
your your phone, and when it
hits the top of the hour, we're

847
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.480
back. We're back. We'll have
breaking news from Jackson. All right,

848
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:37.119
we'll be right back.