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Using free speech to free minds.
You're listening to the David Night Show as

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a clock strikes thirteen. It's Thursday, the fifth of October, one day

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after the EBS, which is perhaps
not the emergency broadcast system, but the

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extra BA that we were told by
all these people. So we're going to

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go back and take a look at
this, what did and did not happen,

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what we should be concerned about,
and what we should not be concerned

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about. But we also had some
very important court decisions that have come out,

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a very disturbing decision about David de
Leiden and the Center for Medical Progress.

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We'll talk about that also the direction
that these court decisions are heading.

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And by the way, one of
our guests today, Tony Ardband, will

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be joining us wise Wolf Gold.
We'll also have Guy Relford, who was

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a lawyer second Amendment lawyer in Indiana, is going to talk to us about

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some very important self defense cases.
There an important law that he got pushed

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through that made a big difference in
one of these cases. To stay with

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us, we'll be right back.
Well. Yesterday, Angry Tiger commented on

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a video, my wife saw it
because they got senter because he commented on

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it, and she follows him.
So you're not too shadow band yet,

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angry tiger. But we'll see what
happens. But it was a comment that

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he made posted by high Impact Flicks
who said info Wars is saying the emergency

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alert system is going to be broadcast
at a specific high frequency signal today yesterday,

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with the intention of activating graphene oxide
and other nanoparticles that have been inserted

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into billions of human beings. To
the jabberino, does anybody know where they're

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getting that information? If true,
what will graphene oxide activation quote unquote actually

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look like? Will it kill people? Will then turn them into zombies?

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So is it kill you, resurrect
you as a zombie or does it turn

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you into zombie and then kill you? We need to know. And of

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course he says, do you buy
any of this? And he posted this

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little clip from Greg Greese's report.
On October fourth, at two twenty two

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pm Eastern time, the emergency broadcast
system will be activated across the entire United

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States under the leadership of FEMA,
disguised as a test. However, this

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test will be used to send a
specific high frequency signal through devices like smartphones,

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radios, and TVs with the intention
of activating graphine oxide and other nanoparticles

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that have been inserted into billions of
human beings around the world through the obvious

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mediums. If the October fourth date
does not occur for any reason, the

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backup plan will be to do it
on October eleventh at the same time.

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In the case that this is not
able to be stopped, I asked you

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all to shut off your phone and
all other relevant devices at two pm Eastern

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Time for a period of two hours
to be safe. Okay, well,

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well you didn't follow his advice.
But Anger Tiger's comment was utter and total

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bs. They spelled it out a
little bit more specifically, though, hope

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it gets you lots of clicks and
views, and of course it does.

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Oh they got record number of clicks
and views, and they sold the nonsense

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about the sting even though it was
easily disproven. Right now, we've got

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twenty thousand troops out there rounding people
up because you know, Trump has laid

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this trap for them. They had
special blockchain watermarks planted on the balance.

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They know who forged this stuff,
and they've already got National Guard troops fanning

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out across the country. On rock
Fan, Handy said Trump must have done

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a covert mission. Yeah see,
and saved us all in the last second.

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You don't want the bad emergency broadcast, it's just a good one.

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Well, you know, that's some
funny thing, is what I saw in

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terms of follow up on this stuff. I wasn't, you know, well,

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did anybody turn into a zombie?
I wasn't looking for that, of

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course, but I was. I
saw these articles about how first of all,

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people were complaining because it was early. It was two minutes early.

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And then of course you heard in
that clip, I think he said two

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twenty two. It was actually two
twenty It was scheduled, but it actually

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went off at two eighteen. But
other people were saying, I didn't get

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my signal. Complain about that,
like where's my test, where's my mask,

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where's my jab? You know,
I mean, you're always going to

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and that's really what they mean by
zombies when the government refers to us as

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zombies. I had a lot of
people very upset with me, as a

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matter of fact, and one person, as I mentioned earlier in the week,

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said your controlled opposition, seriously,
you won't look at proof. So

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as proof. He sent me a
video that I had already debunked. I

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don't know if he watch his program
or how much I may don't cover the

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same information every day I covered it. Somebody asked me the question. I

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gave him a quick answer at the
very end of the show on Friday,

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and I looked at this and it's
like, what is this nonsense? Over

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the weekend and I talked to on
THEO talked about on the following Monday.

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But anyway, he also sent me
another video. Here is what the here's

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what the crew selling this stuff looks
like. By the way, this is

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the video that he wanted me to
pay attention to. Five G. Doctor

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Rashid Booter, Attorney Todd Calendar,
Karen Kingston, retired says force means Air

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Force retired. They lost the Air
Force anyway. Retired Air Force Lieutenant General

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Thomas McInerney how five G hydrogel and
nanotechnology will be used to activate pathogens and

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the COVID nineteen vaccines. Now,
as one person said, we don't rule

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that stuff out, And as one
of the listeners contacted me, he said,

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this is never about the dates.
He says, this is a ruse

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for the actual zombie event. And
so don't you understand these dates are simply

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placed there to dismiss the whole of
the event as just woo wu, And

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I told you so, all the
while the public will be completely unaware and

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unprepared when it actually does happen.
Well, I think all this stuff there's

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a bunch of woo wo to distract
people from the real concerns about the vaccine

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and the real concerns about five G
and those remain, and it doesn't have

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to be that, you know,
the concerns are not that it's going to

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turn us into zombies, it's going
to kill us. You met at the

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average well, yeah, what were
you saying? Have you met what the

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average one? Have you met at
the average leftist? The average average leftist?

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What about them? Zombies? Already
zombies? That's right, that's right,

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the average Well, you know,
and we've seen them referring to us

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as zombies many times. I've talked
about the NSA slides that were really only

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published in Germany by Deshpiegel. They
were part of the Snowden documents, but

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the US press decided not to do
it because it cast a negative light on

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Apple that they that buys ads on
their platforms. But it said, you

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know, who would have thought in
nineteen eighty four, And it shows the

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Apple commercial pushing the Macintosh of the
Ridley Scott commercial super Bowl commercial that only

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ran once, but people played it
over and over again, that nineteen eighty

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four commercial. But this would become
Big Brother. And they show Steve Jobs

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holding up the iPhone. Then they
show an Apple store and everybody lined up,

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and they said the zombies would line
up to purchase it. They referred

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to us as zombies because they have
absolutely no respect for us. They think

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we're walking dead, brainless idiots and
that they've got to kill us. And

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so that is one aspect of it. But look, none of this is

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to say that the jabs are not
dangerous. Anybody listens to me knows that

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I've been talking about this even before
they went out. We knew they were

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going to be dangerous, and I
know we had lots of evidence of this.

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We don't know what is in the
nanotech stuff, could be anything.

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We have seen particulates come out of
the millions. One batch was one point

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four million, another batch was a
million. Two different batches in Japan that

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they just destroyed. Because they had
black particles that had precipitated out of the

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vaccines and they interacted with mag We
don't know what this stuff is, and

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I said at the time, I
said, perhaps this is why they have

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to keep these things super cold.
We don't know what is going to activate

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them, if it's going to be
time released, or what is going on,

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or if it's five G. Five
G has got its own issues,

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of course, as I've said over
and over again, its own untested health

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issues and concerns, as well as
the real concerns about privacy in a very

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real sense. Just like the vaccine
also has issues of civil liberties in terms

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of saying your health doesn't matter,
you're going to get this or else.

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The five G has both civil liberties
issues as well as health issues. So

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none of this is to say that
that there's not concerns about those things.

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My concern is the same thing he's
saying here, even though he thinks that

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the endgame here is zombies. I
think the endgame is just to kill us,

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not to make us brain dead,
not to kill us in resurrectus.

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I think they just want to kill
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control us if we remain alive.
As long as as we remain alive,

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that's the real agenda. And any
of this stuff about a specific date,

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any specifics about how this stuff works, I think is just a bunch of

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nonsense. So let me go back
to the EBS crew here. Now.

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I talked about Dan calendar, and
it was pretty clear when he was giving

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all this specific information about the EBS
system, the extra BS system that was

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coming out there, just recap it
quickly. He said, it's eighteen gigherts

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and that's going to cause this stuff. You know, they've got pathogens that

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are sealed inside the lipid nanoparticles.
It's going to cause the lipid nanoparticles to

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dissolve and release those pathogens and it's
going to create a new plague or whatever.

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Okay, well, eighteen gigaherts is
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then he goes on to say,
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over and over again, he goes
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this EBS, this emergency broadcast is
it's going to be activating all the frequencies.

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Well, look, if you understand, and I talked about the fact

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that you've got all these frequencies.
Every frequency of AM radio was out there

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all the time. It's just that
you tune into specific ones, specific carrier

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signals, you tune into specific FM
signals. They're all out there all the

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time. All the TV, all
the Wi Fi, all the cell phone

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stuff is constantly there, and so
that's nothing changes with the fact that they

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are sending out information to everybody at
the same time. Your phone is constantly

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sending and receiving if it's not turned
off. None of that changed by the

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emergency broadcast system. So we know
it was complete lunacy and Todd Calendar has

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got some real critical thinking issues here. Number one. Then we go to

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Karen Kingston, was who disappeared.
Remember she was a whistleblower for Pfizer,

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And then everybody in the mainstream media
was what's going on? Had she been

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killed? She had been killed,
you know, because we had Rashid Bhutar

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who had talked about these health effects
and he died, So therefore it was

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a conspiracy. I don't know if
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after that, Karen Kingston disappears.
Turns out she was the one who disappeared

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herself. She eventually came out.
Mike Adams tried to resurrect her credibility.

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I'm sorry, I don't see her
credibility. And then the worst of all,

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Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney. And if
you remember, it was mcinernie who,

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with the election fraud, was doing
the same stuff as Steve Patchennik.

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He was the one. Mcinernie was
the one who came out and said there's

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been a Special Forces operation on a
German facility that had a German computing facility

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that was rigging the elections or something
to that sort. Not true at all.

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It's just like Steve Chennick's thinking that, oh he got twenty thousand troops

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out there arresting people. Mc and
Ernie said right after the election, he

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came up with his own fable.
And both of these guys have got a

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history of selling lies for the right
wing military industrial complex at once perpetual war.

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McInerney sold the lies about the Iraq
War, the lies that were the

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product of torture. And the woman
who was head of the torture and the

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woman who covered it all up,
Gena Haspell, was promoted by Trump the

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head of the CIA, and so
mcinernie was selling those lies to get us

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involved in the Iraq War, and
he was pushing the Iraq war very hard

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and for George W. Bush.
And then he's pushing this nonsense narrative about

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special operation forces that are happening,
you know, over the election information at

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the very beginning of all this stuff, getting everybody hyped up about all this

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stuff so they could push everybody into
January the sixth. What a bunch of

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traders, what a bunch of Judas
goat liars, just looking for clicks and

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views, and always given a platform
by Alex Jones. So anyway, there's

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real concerns out there. This stuff
takes people's real concerns away. But again,

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as I said yesterday, people were
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the scheduled time. It went off
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fact, we were on the phone. We had a conference called Karen and

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I did with another person and the
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Both of our phones went off.
We had to shut them down. The

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hurst didn't go off. And at
Karen's phone, excuse me, she's got

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an iPhone. I got an Android
phone, hers said Presidential message or something

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presidential on it, on the announcement, mindset emergency message or something. So

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I guess that's the difference between the
two systems. But the third persons didn't

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even go off, and so other
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I didn't get my emergency broadcasting system. I didn't turn into a zombie

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or whatever, And so people going
to social media, they complained that they

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had been left out. I didn't
get my test or my mask, or

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my vaccine or my EMS. Why
didn't I get the emergency alert all upper

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cases? Oh, I am so
dead when the apocalypse comes. Yes,

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there are delusions on both sides of
this. So some of them were joking

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about it. I didn't get the
five G zombie emergency alert, rip off,

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said another person. We'll be right
back. The common man. They

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created common Core and dumb down our
children. They created common past, track

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and control us. They're Commons project
to make sure the commoners own nothing and

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the communist future. They see the
common man as simple, unsophisticated ordinary.

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But each of us has worth and
dignity created in the image of God.

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That is what we have in common. That is what they want to take

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away. Their most powerful weapons are
isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire

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to know everything about us while they
hide everything from us. It's time to

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brain dead idiots, but when I
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I have gotten so much hate mail
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and I had to comment on it, not just to debunk these liars

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and grifters, but because we don't
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want this narrative to take hold,
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that we have about the vaccines are
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and that's the reason why you have
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mcinnernie's Special Forces operation in Germany and
all the rest of this stuff that that's

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just a bunch of nonsense. Let's
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that people have about this stuff.
On Rock Fan, Richard Williams, thank

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you very much, he said,
the Kennedy assassination nine to eleven and Trump's

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vaccine. If your default is to
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your stupidity. There I said it. And on Rock Fann, thank you,

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James. I appreciate the tip.
Let's talk about something that I think

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is really tragic. It's a personal
tragedy for one individual, it's a personal

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tragedy for who knows how many babies, and it's a real tragedy for us

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legally, constitutionally, in our liberties
as well. The Supreme Court has declined

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to hear an appeal from David de
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If you remember years ago, I
think it was sent here. I think

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it was twenty fifteen. They did
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style thing. I say Project Veritas, but it's not just Project Veritas.

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As they pointed out their brief to
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it, This is the same thing
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twenty twenty investigation, and it was
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of abortion clinics and so, but
now things have change, haven't they.

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You're not allowed to do that,
not in radical vicious degenerated California run by

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people like Grabbing Nuisance and La La
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those three who were involved at coming
after them. They came in. You

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remember the clips, people say yeah, I want to get my Lamborghini.

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You know, well we can.
You know, we need to have these

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body parts and we will pay you
handsomely for this stuff. What can you

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get for us, Well, you
tell us exactly what you want and when

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you want it, we'll get it. And so as we talked about that,

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we pointed out that this is actually
murder for hire. These are not

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dead babies that are sitting over here
in a stack. And they go back

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and they get the organs. No, as we've talked about organ harvesting and

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china from prisoners and things like that, they take the organs out of living

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bodies because they want them to have
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away, and as soon as the
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in the body, and so you
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body is still alive. That's why
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patients organs, because you know their
body is still functioning. But excuse me,

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in the case of these abortions,
they're looking for babies who have at

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a specific level of maturity, and
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everything ready to transport the organs,
and then they would induce labor to some

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extent. But they're not going to
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they would in a typical abortion procedure. Four steps and all the rest of

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the stuff. You're damaged the organs. They're also not going to inject saline

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that would damage the baby or poison
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the saline salute or not, is
it sent anyway. They have a

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solution that they burned the baby with
and kill it. So that type of

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thing, that type of poisoning or
physical damage, they can't do. So

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they have the baby born normally,
extract the organs and kill the baby that

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way. That's the way it has
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out from the very beginning. And
then as part of this trial, this

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ordeal of David de Leiden, over
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they found that you had Francis Collins
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as the University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh. I used to live in that area.

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But anyway, they found that they
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had the price and everything else.
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Well, the issue is that these
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that they don't like with law fare, and they'll get away with it,

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and they'll get away with it all
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so the High Court denied to even
hear this. Following a twenty twenty two

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ruling by the ninth US Circuit Court
of Appeals, which again is very is

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the most left leaning court in the
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right leaning. In the most leftist
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come up with lunatic stuff. But
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damages that a lower court had awarded
to planned Parenthood and its lawsuit against California

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based Center for Medical Progress and its
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life organization first made headlines in twenty
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with Planned Parenthood doctors and staff haggling
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As the joke goes, we've already
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haggling over the price. And it's
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the organization's actions constituted fraud, trespassing, breach of contract, and a violation

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of Rico Act. You see,
they always bring that Rico Act in one

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of the people who weaponize that,
and well, of course it was Biden

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who helped to weaponize that, But
the person who used it a great deal

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is Rudy Giuliani is now being used
against him. But Planned Parenthood, that

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has been their favorite approach to come
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came after Randy Alcorn years ago.
Andy Alcorn christian pastor and an author,

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and he had gotten involved in pro
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in that, and there was a
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young mother and it changed his mind, and so he started showing up at

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the abortion clinics and things like that. They came after him planned parenthood and

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won you know, type this face
act type of thing. Got to stay

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away from the clinics, stay away
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this, and they charged him with
rico charges. They got I think it

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was an eight million dollar judgment against
him. And Randy Alcorn has had a

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lot of very very big books.
He's got a great book series on Heaven

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another one. I would also highly
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great deal about money. Now where
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also That is an excellent book.
Everybody should or listen to that book.

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So he was very and he also
did a lot of fictional stories as well,

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very good writer fictionally. And so
they said, well, we're going

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to get a lot of money from
him. Eight million dollar judgment. Randy

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Alcorn resigned as pastor of the church
and he continued to write and published books

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Christian books, but he lived on
whatever the allowable minimum wage was for over

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twenty years. They said, I
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and so he just took all that
his organization took all proceeds and millions and

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millions of dollars that he made from
these books and gave it away pro life

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organizations, Christian organizations. So when
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here, it's not their first rodeo
with Rico. But the issue is,

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you know, what is the fraud? What fraud is involved here? Is

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it the fact that these people didn't
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or that they never actually placed in
order for anybody parts. They never took

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delivery of any body parts. They
just talked about, well, what would

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it, what would what would you
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And it's also interesting that Planned Parenthood
did not sue them for defamation.

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Why not wouldn't you think that that
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You're accusing us of trafficking and body
parts. You're accusing us of murder

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for hire, murder of babies for
hire. No, that wasn't an insult

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to them. As a matter of
fact, one person said, you know,

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if you look at this, Tucker
Kralson has been alleged to I don't

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know if it's actually been filed,
that REYEPS would file a lawsuit against Tucker

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Carlson because Tucker Cralson and others had
accused him of being a FED. There

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has already been a lawsuit where you
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a rapper. He was accused of
being FED informant and so he and he

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was not, and so he sued
and the judge said, he sued for

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defamation. And the judge said,
what's wrong with being a federal informant?

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I think that's great. You haven't
been defamed. Is this person is saying,

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well, you know that's I've been
established that, you know, being

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a federal informant is not not a
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we don't know how far Reyep's case
against Tucker would go in that kind of

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situation. Well, you know,
they don't think Planned Parenthood doesn't think that

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it's any big deal to be a
baby killer for or higher either. So

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they didn't put defamation in there.
They put fraud. You know, you

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said you're going to pay us to
get these baby organs and you didn't,

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you know, do that. So
anyway, three years later, a jury

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sided with Planned Parenthood and also said
that the pro life group had violated the

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Federal Wire Tap Act, although the
appeals court later overturned that aspect of the

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verdict. It accounted for less than
one hundred thousand of the two point four

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million dollars in damages plus thirteen million
and attorneys fees it was initially awarded.

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So they argued before the Ninth Circuit
of Court that their journalistic methods were protected

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under the First Amendment, but that
argument was unanimously rejected by the Ninth Circuit

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Court of Appeals, which said invoking
journalism and the First Amendment does not shield

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individuals from liability for violation of laws
applicable to all memory of society. No,

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it was an investigation, and this
is done this way and has been

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done by many organizations and should be
done that way. And there had already

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been that doesn't mention it in this
article here, but there had already been

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hearings in Congress saying that this is
going on. And they said, because

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of those hearings, we conducted this
investigation. What this is is a big

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attack on the First Amendment. It's
a big attack on the free press.

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It's a big attack on truth,
but it also lets these killers go free.

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So the Center for Medical Progress actually
reported pointed to a very similar undercover

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investigation that was conducted by Chris Wallace
that was published on ABC News' twenty twenty

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quote using a fictitious name and fake
critics. ABC journalists met with fetal tissue

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vendors in the abortion industry. Their
three month investigation revealed a host of illegal

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and unethical practices in the industry related
to the sale of tissue from aborted babies.

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At the time, when it was
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Planned Parenthood praised ABC's report because they
were investigating Planned Parenthood's competition. You see,

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this is how this is the only
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and David de Lyden did and what
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ABC and Chris Wallace didn't want to
come after Planned Parenthood. They went after

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their competition. David Delyton went after
Planned Parenthood. That is the only difference,

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the only difference. That's how politically
connected they are. That the Democrats,

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even when it was against the law, was we're giving them millions of

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dollars of subsidies, they don't care. At the time, when it was

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not the focus of the investigation,
Planned Parenthood praised ABC's report and condemned the

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abortion provider who was its target.
Gloria Felt, then, the president of

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Planned Parenthood, publicly stated, where
there is wrongdoing, it should be prosecuted,

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and the people who are doing that
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justice. They see, they'll come
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like Kermit Gosnell or something, as
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But if you come after Planned Parenthood, understand you're coming after somebody who

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is, you know, a made
man in the mafia. If you will,

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you know they have somebody that is
protected and under the protective care of

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the federal government because they have bought
so many politicians. According to the Center

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for Medical Progress, mister Lyden modeled
his investigation on abcs using nearly identical methods

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and means. The group also charged
that Planned Parenthood had euphemistically labeled its losses

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as infiltration and as security damages to
circumvent the challenge challenges presented by the defamation

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case, which would include showing that
the published speech in question was false,

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and yet they were not making it
about defamation. It was about you defrauded

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us and the rest of stuff.
You know, you didn't pass the money

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you said you're going to do.
The complaint contains a list of grievances that

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are inextricably intertwined with a Center for
Medical Progress's decision to publish videos detailing the

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results of its investigation. Thus,
even though Planned Parenthood failed to file a

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defamation claim, they said it sought
substantial damages to reimburse it for expenses that

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it voluntarily occurred to prevent similar investigative
reports by others in the future. See

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this is a key part of this. Don't mess with Planned Parenthood, or

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are you going to be in court
for eight years like David Delighten and you're

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going to come out with thirteen million
dollar debt. Planned Parenthood has denied selling

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the body parts of aborted babies for
profit, even though Discovery showed that one

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of their clients was actually Fauci and
Francis Collins and the NIH and the University

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of Pittsburgh. They said this was
part of a smear campaign against Planned Parenthood,

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a smear campaign, and yet they
didn't charge them for defamation. It's

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not defamation of character. This is
definition of character. Planned parenthood, murders

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for hire, it's just selling the
baby parts. Was a new wrinkle that

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the public hadn't really understood yet,
just like they didn't really understand the whole

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concept of so called comfort care,
where if a baby survives or attempted murder

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at ripping them apart or bringing them
to death with a solution, then they

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just stick them over on the side
and let them die, like happened in

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the pagan societies of the Roman Empire
than others. The Supreme Court announced this

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rejection of the case on the very
first day of his twenty twenty four term,

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which will run through June. Not
a very good beginning, and as

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a matter of fact, there were
other things that were not very good coming

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out of the Supreme Court. Vox
is very very happy about the fact that,

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as they see it, the Supreme
Court had an uncharacteristic moment of sanity

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when they decided that a lawsuit that
was trying to shut down the Consumer Protection

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and Financial Board or Financial Protection I
get those you were those mixed up anyway,

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This thing that was a Frankenstein monster, that was a special creature of

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Elizabeth Warren that came out with a
god Frank bill in twenty ten, was

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supposed to fix us ever having another
mortgage crisis. That type of what it

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did was it strangled to death hundreds
hundreds of small and medium sized banks on

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an annual basis. I remember when
Drudge was still doing conservative news, he

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would talk at the end of the
year for several years running, after this

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thing was created and the new rules
that it created, he would run an

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article talking about how many small and
medium sized banks had been put out of

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business by this Consumer Financial Protection Board
rules. Of course, now he's gone

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to the other side. He's got
articles like this from vox saying, imagine

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the Supreme Court of the United States
spent an entire morning debating where the penguins

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are the primary cause of colon cancer. They think it's that absurd the question

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the constitutionality or what any of the
bureaucracy of any of these bureaucratic organizations,

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or their actions or their very existence, that's just insane. The federal government

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can do anything that it wants Fox
essentially, so they said, that's more

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or less equality of the arguments of
the former Trump Solicitor General Noel Francisco presented

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at the Court on Tuesday as part
of a quizzical effort to commence the justices

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to declare an entire federal agency and
constitutional. You who can imagine that?

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I mean, that's like, you
know, talking about if penguins are the

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primary cause of colon cancer, Any
and every imaginable bureaucracy is of course constitutional.

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To the leftist press, like Fox, All three of the liberal justices

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took turns beating up Francisco as an
exasperated justice, Sonya Soda Mayor telling Francisco

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at one point that She's trying to
understand his argument, and I'm at a

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total loss. I just can't imagine
a government He'll be limited by the constitution.

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What is this guy talking about?
Soh Sodo. Mayor appeared to be

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joined in her frustration by Kavanaugh and
by Amy Cony Barrett, the agency that

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he was trying to get them to
strike down, they said at the end

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of the argument, even Clarence Thomas
appear to be fed up with the inability

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to articulate a coherent argument. Is
this a bad lawyer? Well, he

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does have a very bad argument for
getting rid of it. But this is

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a conclusion from box. They said, it seems very likely that the CFPB

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being struck down will not happen.
And that's a very good thing. They

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said. Listen to their logic,
as the banking industry warned, and a

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brief to the justices, striking down
the CFPB would mean striking down the agency

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that writes the rules telling them how
to comply with federal laws governing mortgages.

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And without these rules in place,
the entire US mortgage market could seize up.

446
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How did we exist? How did
the banks operate before twenty ten?

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Well, we didn't have such a
and now it's that concentrated banking industry run

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by the few banks that are too
big to fail and that have now used

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this very agency to strangle their competition. They said, oh, we got

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to have that. Of course they
do. That's how they kill their smaller

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competitors. What an absurd argument,
so that it would seize up. Well,

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you know what's effectively seized up right
now is the housing market. Interest

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rates have gotten so high and prices
have continued to climb because there is a

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shortage of housing and uh the uh, and people are afraid to because people

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are afraid to renegotiate their loans.
They've got their their they're locked into a

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lower mortgage rate, so they don't
want to put their house on the market

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and take you know, they can't
afford a new loan on a new house.

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And so because of all that,
the market is frozen up. It's

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frozen up by the actions of the
federal government were actually more effectively the actions

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of the Reserve, which is not
the federal government. But a decision against

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the CFPB, they said, in
other words, could usher in the kind

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of economic ruin that has not been
seen in the United States. Sin it's

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a great depression, that's right,
would have dogs and cats living together.

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It would be the apocalypse, even
the zombie apocalypse. No, it's Fox

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that is unhinged here. So his
argument, which is not a good argument,

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was not where's your authority for this
to exist in the first place.

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This argument was, well, they
were created with perpetual funding. And so

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the judges, even Clarence Thomas,
are scratching their heads and saying, well,

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wait a minute, we got all
these entitlement programs that are out there

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that are created with perpetual funding.
What is the difference between them, well,

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but it's different. I'm not saying
they're going to get rid of any

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the welfare programs or Medicare, Medicaid, so security of that, you know,

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this is but this is different because
it's got perpetual funding and you know

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somehow, And that's what none of
them could get their head around, because

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it's a nonsense argument. And he
never made the case that, hey,

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you know, we have the federal
government doesn't possess any powers that have not

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been expressly given to it. Where
is the authority for them to do this

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type of thing, because that would
affect pretty much everything the government does,

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including the welfare programs. But they
want to try to carve that out somehow.

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They can't make an intellectual argument for
that. I think clearly when you

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look at things like social security,
people have been lied to all their life.

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I remember about thirty years ago there
was a poll. They asked people,

483
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how many of you believe you're going
to get your social security versus how

484
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.719
many people believe that there were UFOs
and aliens and that type of thing.

485
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And there are a lot more people
believed in UFOs and aliens even thirty years

486
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:53.199
ago, and now that they're pushing
that. That's got inter seeing the efforts

487
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:57.840
of the Biden administration against Social Security, they're actually the ones trying to strangle

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it. But again, and you
know, when you look at what the

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government is doing, I think you
need to transition out of these things that

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people have been promised and planned around
for their entire lifetime. There needs to

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be a reasonable transition for these things. But you need to stop the programs

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that are wrong. But more than
that, it's just one agency after the

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other that is strangling our economy,
that's strangling our liberty and the constitution.

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But they don't like the Constitution.
No. For the longest time we've had

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a difference of opinion, the majority
opinion has been that the words don't really

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mean anything. Right. This is
the living constitution viewpoint. And then there

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are the people who are originalists or
textualists or whatever who say we have to

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go with what the text actually says
and in its original meaning, it means

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what it says. And we understand
what when we talk about a militia,

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we understand that that was the yeomanry
of people men sixteen to sixty and at

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the time, and that was and
if we understand that we understand the reasoning

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behind it, but whether or not
you understand what the militia is. Those

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words shall not infringe the rights the
right of the people. That kind of

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is non negotiable, and it should
be. And so the words mean something.

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But then you have the people say, well, it's a living document,

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and you know, I don't think
that we need to be governed by

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these things that are written down before. Well, if you don't do that,

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then you have total chaos because now
everything is subjective. There is no

509
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objective standard. We have an objective
standard. If you don't like what that

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objective standard says, there's a process
for changing and amending the constitution, but

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you don't just get to write it
away. But now they've got a third

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way, because now we're getting so
far removed from reality. They're talking about

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00:44:54.719 --> 00:45:01.400
crystal ball constitutionalism, if you will. And this is to make rulings,

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and this is being pushed by Washington
University Law Review. They call it judicial

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00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:15.440
moral prophecy. That's their claim.
They're pushing this. They need to be

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able to think about how these things
are going to be perceived in the future.

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And so these people not only see
themselves as lawgivers, these judges.

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00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:29.079
Judges are never to be lawgivers,
but they not only see themselves not only

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as lawgivers, but as profits who
can foresee the future and can take this.

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You know, we've gone so far
away from the original text and something

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00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:44.199
that is grounded an objective reality.
This is kind of like the Furries version

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00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:49.800
of courts here, you know,
with all the transgender stuffing of people dressing

523
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:53.559
up like furries. This is the
equivalent of that courts should contemplate and heed

524
00:45:54.199 --> 00:46:00.119
the moral judgments of coming generations.
Total nonsense. But they say doing so

525
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:06.559
is not an arbitrary projection of personal
fancy. It is, but they say

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00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:14.920
it's a corollaria of the shared practice
of retrospective condemnation. Tenets of cultural morality

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often achieve judicial recognition, and those
truisms inevitably shape how courts perceive their interpretive

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responsibilities. This is kind of academic
yeah, pablem. That is the basis

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of the chaos and confusion that we
see in so many sectors of our society.

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Despite the formalizing pressures of modern legal
discourse, a counter trend has begun

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to emerge, that of judicial moral
prophecy. It's not even philosophy. You

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00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:49.679
shouldn't be injecting your philosophy into the
law. But now they're going to inject

533
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:55.840
their prophecies into the law. Factors
that will ultimately eclipse Logical precision can and

534
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.800
should inform conceptions of judicial duty in
the pre isn't. In other words,

535
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we want to move away from precision. We want to move away from logic.

536
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:10.920
We want to move away from objective
truth. If originalism and textualism are

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00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:14.760
focused on, the text has written
in the past, as the commentator on

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00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:20.480
this, and this is actually coming
from a Second Amendment site bearing arms dot

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00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:24.800
com. If originalism and textualism are
focused on the text is written in the

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00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:34.000
past and living in constitutionalism favors in
the present vagaries and vicissitudes. Judicial moral

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00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:42.639
prophecy seeks to divine an unknowable,
unpredictable future and turns the judiciary into psychics

542
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:50.639
and soothsayers. What has been running
the mcguffins right with their models and their

543
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.639
projections. Oh, we see a
pandemic is coming. It's coming. I

544
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:57.199
can just see it. I can
see it in my computer models. We

545
00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:59.760
don't have anybody that's died yet of
me this stuff, but you know,

546
00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:01.559
we need to lock down the country
in March of twenty twenty, even though

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00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:06.719
nobody's died and we don't have anything
that could even be called We don't have

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00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.880
a pretended body count in China or
Italy or any place like that where they

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00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:14.840
said this is ore, he started. There was no body count that would

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support an epidemic there, but a
worldwide pandemic. They said they could just

551
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:24.360
see it. And so we had
the psychics and the soothsayers. But you

552
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:29.920
know, instead of looking at goat
and trails or you know, some kind

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00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:34.800
of Ouiji boards or tarot cards,
they had computers and so that made it

554
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:40.519
all believable to idiots zombies, and
the same thing has been going on for

555
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:45.199
decades with the climate stuff. Again, instead of goat and trails, they've

556
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:53.119
got computer models that are probably as
worthless as maybe even more worthless, because

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00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.880
at least people can see through that
scam. But you know, that's where

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we are right now, that's where
they are advocating for the judiciary to go.

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Before we take a quick break here
on rock Finn angry Tiger, thank

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you for the tip, and thank
you for the tip showing us what was

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that little clip? He says,
yes, David, is to marginalize all

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of our information and group us together
with the grifters. That's right, Yeah,

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that is That's why the CIA does
this stuff. That's why I call

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it the EBS thing that happened.
It was the extra bs as an excrement,

565
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because it's that extra BS that they
add to the truth that allows him

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to discredit the truth. It allows
him discredit the concerns about five G,

567
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the concerns about the JAB, and
all the rest of this on rock Finn

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Spencer long, thank you for the
tip, he said, David. Since

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I didn't die in the apocalypse yesterday, consider this my October subscription. Thank

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00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:59.880
you. I saw a babelin b
article a few days ago that Congress signed

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up for Ukraine Plus like Disney Plus, for only forty billion dollars a month,

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So I consider this subscription to be
much much more affordable. Well,

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yeah it is. We're gonna take
a quick break and we'll be right back.

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You're listening to the David Knight Show. Let's take a look at the

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new hero of the left in the
mainstream media in the Supreme Court, and

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00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:25.639
that is Justice Kavanaugh. This guy, if you remember, they vilified him

577
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.519
like a me too monster. Remember
how they did that? And now he's

578
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:37.280
their new hero because this Trump appointee
has done all everything that they love,

579
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:44.000
with the exception of the Dobbs decision
that overturned Rob Wade. This is the

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00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:49.760
headline from the La Times. Justice
Kavanaugh taps the brakes on the Supreme Court's

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00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:54.079
sharp move to the right. Now, he's always been a leftist, you

582
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:58.079
know, guy coming from the usual
place. It seems like they get most

583
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:05.119
of their Supreme Court appointee from one
Jesuit university, George Washington University. He's

584
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:09.360
always been a leftist. He is
just like Roberts, and they actually point

585
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:13.320
that out, you know that he's
even more of a swing vote. He

586
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:19.239
used to clerk for Kennedy, who
became a pretty hardcore leftist as well.

587
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.400
He was. I think it was
Reagan who put him in, if I

588
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:27.360
remember correctly. He's talking about it
here. I had not looked that up,

589
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:30.559
but I think, you know,
he had. They had expectations of

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00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:37.760
him being conservative for a libertarian,
but he had unhinged from reality decisions and

591
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:44.000
unhinged from liberty decision totally unhinged from
the Constitution and from liberty and Kavanaugh is

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00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:50.079
the same way. So he's now
the new hero to the leftist establishment,

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00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:55.800
they said, Stotch, Conservatives of
the LA time may have reason to worry

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00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:00.880
about Kevanaugh. We do. He
voted most often with Roberts, and he

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00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:07.840
voted more often with the courts three
liberal justices than he did with Thomas,

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the most conservative. They said,
Kevanaugh cast a deciding fifth vote to poll

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00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:22.280
the Biden administration's plan to require a
COVID nineteen vaccine. That basically tells you

598
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:25.159
all you need to know about this
guy. That is the dividing line.

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00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:30.000
If you can force somebody to inject
an experimental thing into their body as a

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00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:36.360
condition of living their life, that's
how does he come help? Could you

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00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:43.519
call anybody like that conservative or libertarian? And of course the new absurdity is

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00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:50.719
that Biden is now claiming that he
didn't have any mandates. Yeah, well,

603
00:53:50.719 --> 00:53:53.360
what a bunch of liars these people
are. You know, just like

604
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:58.360
Fauci, I didn't tell nobody to
do nothing. I didn't make nobody do

605
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:01.760
nothing. I made some you know, recommendations. You know, It's kind

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of like when the mafia would show
up at your small vegetable shop. In

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00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:13.039
Brooklyn. I'd suggest that you pay
somebody for some protection. Oh, we've

608
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.480
never been robbed here, beating up. You know, this is old school

609
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:19.840
New York. No, you know, something could happen to you, you

610
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:27.119
know, like for me, protection
from me. And that's what faut You

611
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:30.960
was selling. It was a protection
racket, which government always is. But

612
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:37.360
it had some real clear blackmail involved
there for the corporations. If they did

613
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:39.840
not run this stuff through, you
know, there's going to be carrots and

614
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:43.400
sticks, financial carrots and sticks.
And that's why I said, you know,

615
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:46.360
Trump was down with that. He
had already said in twenty nineteen,

616
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:50.079
Hey, they got to get the
shots. It's going around about measles and

617
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.440
that type of thing. We're not
going to listen to any parents objections about

618
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:57.440
this. We don't care what any
medical objections are about this. We don't

619
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:01.280
care about any religious objections. Don't
care if this is a private religious school.

620
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:07.440
You're going to get that measles shot, said Trump. So it was

621
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.280
in these people just play this game. As I said before, this is

622
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:16.239
like the Nuremberg excuse, but upside
down. You know, in Nuremberg people

623
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:22.639
said that's just following the autis there's
autis from above. Well, these people

624
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:27.559
are saying I didn't give nobody,
not what is any mandates? Well they

625
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.199
did, and you had a majority
of the Supreme Court said they could.

626
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:35.320
And now even after that, even
after went all the way to the court,

627
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:38.039
they argued that they could force people
to get it, and Kavanaugh signed

628
00:55:38.039 --> 00:55:42.800
on with those people. And now
Biden says, we didn't order anybody,

629
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:46.280
you know, So what was that
case about? What a bunch of liars?

630
00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:53.960
And this was again, you know, the the financial extortion, blackmail

631
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:59.719
millions of workers in hospitals and nursing
homes that had to get it or those

632
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:06.639
high hospitals would have their Medicare and
Medicaid funds turned off. And so here's

633
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:12.920
the for varication at the heart of
Kavanaugh's decision. Kavanaugh said, well,

634
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:15.800
the hospitals didn't object to this requirement, Yeah, because they're going to get

635
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:22.800
the money. They're being bribed for
this or blackmailed for this. The rules

636
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.880
were challenged by sixteen Republican state attorney
generals who did it on behalf of the

637
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:30.880
medical staff that were going to be
used as guinea pigs. Kavanaugh didn't care.

638
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:37.159
The majority of the Supreme Court didn't
care and a five to four decision,

639
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:42.639
and he was a swing vote on
that. Four other conservatives, including

640
00:56:42.800 --> 00:56:51.639
Trump, Gorsch, and Amy Coney
Barrett. Trump appointed justices Neil Gorsich and

641
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.960
Amy Coney Barrett that would have been
the other two would have been Clarence Thomas

642
00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:02.880
and Alito dissent to and said that
hospital workers should not be required to undergo

643
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:14.599
what Alito called an irreversible medical treatment
quote unquote. And yet Roberts and Cavanaugh

644
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:19.800
joined with a quote unquote liberal branch. They are the liberal branch of the

645
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:23.519
Supreme Court. And I don't mean
liberal in terms of being focused on liberty

646
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:30.480
or freedom, which is how they
stole that term. I mean authoritarian anti

647
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:37.559
constitutionalists. Twice, Kavanaugh played a
key role in upholding Biden's immigration policies against

648
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:45.199
lawsuits against lawsuits brought by Texas Republicans. As a matter of fact, remember

649
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:49.800
also going back to this, they
don't mention it in the La Times thing,

650
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:54.280
but I think it was one of
the key issues is that you had

651
00:57:54.280 --> 00:58:01.000
Trump. Under Trump, the CDC
said we're going to tell people that you

652
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:07.360
can't evict anybody because now we've done
this novel approach of locking people. Never

653
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:09.559
before in the history of America or
the world have we done this type of

654
00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:13.480
thing. But we're going to do
this now. And so now that we

655
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:16.000
locked everybody down and we told them
that they can't work and we put them

656
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:20.679
on universal basic income, you can't
throw people out of their homes and you

657
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:25.679
can't eject them for non payment of
rent. Okay, you can't e victim.

658
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.719
And so that happened under Trump.
It was extended multiple times under Trump.

659
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:34.480
Trump had no problem with that because
he was pushing that universal basic income.

660
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:39.159
You'll have nothing and you'll be happy
with what we give you. And

661
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:45.480
then it continued to be extended under
Biden for quite some time. And so

662
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:47.840
he had several lawsuits. They said
CDC doesn't have the authority to come in

663
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:52.440
and do something like that. That's
a private contract. How in the world

664
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.519
can you imagine that the CDC has
that kind of authority, And they were

665
00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:59.679
winning court decision after court decision,
and of course is a very clear issue

666
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:02.000
if you look at the law,
and when it got to the Supreme Court,

667
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:10.920
you had Justices Kavanaugh and Roberts again
making a five to four majority saying

668
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:15.119
no, they they don't have the
authority. They don't have the authority,

669
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:20.840
but they promised that they're going to
stop soon, by the end of the

670
00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:22.639
month. So I'm not going to
take that away from them. Well,

671
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:25.320
why wouldn't you. They're only going
to do it for another month or so,

672
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:28.719
so we'll let them. And then
on another month or so happened and

673
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:34.239
they didn't do it. The case
came back up, and then Kavanaugh and

674
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:37.079
Roberts says, all right, you
never had this authority. You said you're

675
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:39.440
going to stop it, and so
we didn't want to clip your wings here,

676
00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:43.840
you know, but now that you're
continuing with this thing, we're going

677
00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:47.320
to say you can't do it.
That's the kind of judges that Roberts and

678
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:52.000
Kavanaugh are. I think they're more
contemptible, quite frankly, than even the

679
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:57.280
three leftists. They're just so dishonest. They have the same values as a

680
00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:00.000
leftists, but they lie to you
about it. This is why I'm so

681
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:06.599
angry at Trump. I see a
trader as being far worse than the enemy

682
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:12.239
soldier who flies his flag and wears
his uniform. And these people are traders.

683
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:15.360
And Trump is a trader as well, because he does the same thing

684
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:20.440
stabs you in the back, pretends
to be one thing when he's another thing.

685
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:24.880
As I've said many times, you
treat prisoners of ward very differently than

686
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:30.719
you treat spies in your midst don't
you. The immigration law that he's affords

687
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:36.320
a substantial discretion to the executive he
said, and a five four ruling in

688
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:40.800
Biden versus Texas, and he says
in different presidents may exercise it differently.

689
01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.880
Well, I think that they treat
different presidents very differently at the Supreme Court,

690
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:50.679
don't they. Because with Biden,
they let him do whatever he wants

691
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:54.119
to do. With Obama, they
let DACA go through. Obama's administration doesn't

692
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:58.840
have to enforce the law. They
can declare they're not going to deport anybody,

693
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:02.360
they're going to defer action on childhood
arrivals. And then when Trump comes

694
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:07.440
along, you know again he didn't
want to do it. He kicked it

695
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:13.440
over to the Supreme Court because he
clearly has the authority to overrule an Obama

696
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:17.039
administration executive order. He's now the
executive but he kicked it to the Supreme

697
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:20.159
Court, and the Supreme Court said, no, you can't do anything about

698
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.840
that now. In this one when
it comes up to Biden, the Supreme

699
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:27.360
Court says five to four, No, the President can do whatever he wants

700
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:32.320
to with immigration. It's not about
the law, it's about whether they agree

701
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:38.559
with that policy or not. And
so la times he may become the Supreme

702
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:44.000
Court swing vote. Yeah, lots
of cheering in the mainstream media over this.

703
01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:50.239
And we know already what has happened
with him and also with the Supreme

704
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:54.599
Court when they talked about shutting down
churches and lockdowns. Yeah, you can

705
01:01:54.599 --> 01:02:00.800
shut down the churches, but you
can't shut down the casinos. What and

706
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:07.320
so you had church that lost that
court decision went to a casino and held

707
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.440
their church service in the casino to
make up point. It's just insanity.

708
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:15.639
And so now the pronoun debate is
likely to come up to the Supreme Court,

709
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:20.320
says Politico. So is the Supreme
Court now going to tell us what

710
01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:24.599
to say? Know, there's really
more about whether or not other people are

711
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:29.960
going to be allowed to dictate what
we can say. And it's really fundamentally

712
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:35.719
about parental rights. About parental rights, This article from Politico was once again

713
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:39.199
a pitch battle in America's culture wars
is making its way to the US Supreme

714
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:45.639
Court in this round, which whether
you're talking about marriage, you're talking about

715
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:49.360
when life begins, and all the
rest of this stuff, these are not

716
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:54.079
issues for the Supreme Court in this
round. The emerging question is whether public

717
01:02:54.119 --> 01:03:00.079
school children have a right to choose
names and pronouns affirming their gender, their

718
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:04.760
identity, or where their parents' rights
to manage the upbringing of their children overrides

719
01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:07.079
it. Well, you know,
it's kind of inherent in the way we

720
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:14.280
always refer to them as public school
children. You read that phrase there from

721
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:19.039
Politico, and most people just kind
of skip through that and what does that

722
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:22.199
really mean? What they really mean
by it, And they've been very explicit

723
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:29.639
about it and passed court decisions.
Public school children are children that the parents

724
01:03:29.679 --> 01:03:35.679
have abandoned to the state. And
previous court decisions they said, once you

725
01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:38.840
bring your child to the public school
and drop them off at the steps,

726
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:45.840
you have abandoned your child to the
care of the school, and we will

727
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:49.400
do whatever we wish to them.
We will talk to them about any kind

728
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:52.519
of sex that we wish. You
know, when that was first done,

729
01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:58.400
that was an eight year old girl. The father did not want her to

730
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:05.320
be involved in in a sexual class
where they were just explaining heterosexual sex.

731
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:09.559
But he thought she was too it
was too early for her to have that

732
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:12.119
kind of detail, so he wanted
her out of that class. They said

733
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:14.760
no, so he went in to
take her out of the class. They

734
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:17.920
arrested him for trespassing. They said, you know, you drop your kid

735
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:21.559
off, you've abandoned them to the
state, and we will operate in place

736
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:28.639
of the parents and local parentice and
so all this stuff about printal rights.

737
01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:33.320
People need to start understanding that in
the view of the government, you have

738
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:40.400
surrendered your rights when you surrender your
child. They belonged to the state at

739
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:45.800
least for that majority of the day. And the pronouns that we see here

740
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:51.639
don't really matter. The pronouns are
just a proxy of who has power and

741
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:57.159
who will dominate and who will raise
the children. Will they be raised by

742
01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:01.280
the parents or by the public school. That's the real issue, and people,

743
01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:04.960
even all of this fighting of the
school boards and all the rest of

744
01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:13.920
stuff is a distraction from that fundamental
issue. Parents sued over these gender issues

745
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:19.199
here in Politico says they alleged that
the defendants violated three different rights derived from

746
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:25.639
the Fourteenth Amendment one their fundamental parental
rights to direct the education and upbringing of

747
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:30.199
their children. Two their fundamental right
to direct medical and mental health decision making

748
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:36.639
for their children, and three their
fundamental right to familial privacy and family integrity.

749
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:42.679
Okay, now, I don't know
if that was in their brief saying

750
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.239
these rights were given to us by
the fourteenth Amendment the Constitution, and the

751
01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:48.920
government does not give us rights.
If they give us rights, they're not

752
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:57.719
rights, they're privileges. Rights come
based on our humanity. They are God

753
01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:04.719
given and therefore inalien government is told
in these amendments to respect those rights.

754
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:10.400
There should be a printal rights Amendment
to the Constitution, not to grant those

755
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:14.360
rights, but to tell them that
they need to respect those rights, just

756
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:18.239
like they need to respect our free
speech and our ability to protect ourselves with

757
01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:24.599
firearms and that type of thing.
But all of that is true except for

758
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:27.599
the fact that it comes from the
fourteenth Amendment. Politico says, none of

759
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:34.920
these rights are expressed expressly identified in
the Constitution. They don't have to be

760
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:40.559
right. We have the ninth and
tenth Amendment, which says, you know,

761
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:45.480
you don't have these powers federal government
or any government. Unless this has

762
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.960
been given to you by the people, by the states, or whatever.

763
01:06:50.239 --> 01:07:00.360
You cannot assume these powers and the
idea that get to direct the upbringing of

764
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:04.920
their children, that they get to
direct medical and mental health decision making,

765
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:10.599
and that the family is an important
institution. This is not something that we

766
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:15.760
have to be told from the right
or privilege that we have to be granted

767
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:19.280
by the government. The government needs
to be told this in a very explicit

768
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:24.199
way. Leave these things along.
The children do not belong to you.

769
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:27.760
This is all this that takes a
village to raise a kid's stuff, all

770
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:31.400
this Melissa Harris Perry stuff from MSNBC. We've got to get over this idea

771
01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:36.079
that the children belong to you.
Well, you better understand where these people

772
01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:41.159
are coming from and where Politico is
coming from. They said, all these

773
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:46.039
rights stem from the same aspect of
the Fourteenth Amendment that produced the original decision

774
01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:51.039
in Roe v. Wade, that
of substitive due process. That is total

775
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:56.559
bs. They're trying to tell you
that Roe v. Wade gave us printal

776
01:07:56.639 --> 01:08:02.840
rights. This is such a perversion
and an inversion of the concept of rights.

777
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:06.519
It's a perversion and an inversion of
what the Constitution is all about,

778
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:10.639
and what the Bill of Rights is
all about, and what parenting is all

779
01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:15.079
about. But that's where these people
are coming from, and that's where they

780
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:18.239
stand, and they are going to
stand on that and they're going to try

781
01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:21.800
to enforce that. But I think
it's very important to understand where these people

782
01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:28.039
are coming from. On Rockfinn Duke
Nukem, thank you very much for the

783
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:30.560
tip. He says, I enjoy
your show, Missley, especially when we

784
01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:33.680
talk about religion and God. Well, thank you. It's very divisive issue

785
01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:42.800
certainly here we talk about religion and
politics. Nothing controversial, right though I

786
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.600
generally abide with the notions of peace, faith and love for others. You

787
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.199
can see how the Bible is used
as yet another tool used to fracture humanity

788
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:55.279
us versus them. The violence justified
by biblical mandate throughout history makes me blush.

789
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:58.079
When you come off as an apologist
for this, well, let me

790
01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:00.119
be an apologist for that. And
I'm not apologizing for any of it.

791
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.439
I'm just explaining it. That's what
an apologist is. You know, when

792
01:09:03.439 --> 01:09:06.680
you look at a situation, I
think the one that comes up most often

793
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:14.079
is you know, as God tells
the Israelites to go in and take the

794
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:17.119
land from the Cannites, he said, kill everybody, take the babies,

795
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:24.520
and bash their heads against the rocks. Completely eradicate that civilization. And we

796
01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:30.439
should ask why that hasn't happened to
us, and why God was saying to

797
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.960
do that to them. It was
because if you go back and you look

798
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.600
at history and you look at the
context of this and later on, you

799
01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:40.039
see that in the Old Testament when
he says stay away from these people.

800
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:45.840
Their culture is a disease, and
it was a disease and it pulled the

801
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:51.039
people of Israel into it. And
rather than multiplying and you know, taking

802
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:55.039
the land and that type of thing, instead what they did was intermarried with

803
01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:59.760
this culture. They adopted it.
You even had kings of Israel who were

804
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:03.880
pass seeing their children through the fire. It was a religious right they had.

805
01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:08.079
That. The two big things that
were you know that you see coming

806
01:10:08.119 --> 01:10:13.199
back over and over again are these
ashtroth polls, you know, the goddess

807
01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:16.920
a Shira or astronot, you know, various variations of that. That was

808
01:10:17.119 --> 01:10:24.800
a free sex celebration, right,
big festival all around, free sects everybody

809
01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:28.800
right, and then you would a
few months later you would have this other

810
01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:35.960
festival that would be where you could
sacrifice your children to Molik for prosperity,

811
01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:43.439
murder your child. Now we know
from archaeological digs, we know that this

812
01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:49.880
was rampant throughout the Canaanite area,
Palestine area, and down into northern Africa,

813
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:56.319
the area that would later become Carthage. They had these big I think

814
01:10:56.319 --> 01:11:03.279
it's called Pofits where they had massive
graveyard of bones of children, and God

815
01:11:03.279 --> 01:11:06.520
had you know that that is something
that you know. They didn't need a

816
01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:12.520
direct revelation from God. They didn't
need law from Moses or anybody else to

817
01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:17.000
tell them that they needed to.
Everybody knows that, you know, there

818
01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:21.680
is a natural law that everybody knows. You don't kill other people, you

819
01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:26.279
don't steal stuff from them, but
especially you know, you don't kill your

820
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:32.600
children. That is so incredibly unnatural. And so they were justified. God

821
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:39.560
was justified in terms of telling them
to execute judgment. And over and over

822
01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:43.319
again in the Bible we see tremendous
hardship even on his own people Israel.

823
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:50.640
When they rebelled, he brought in
other nations to judge them. Unbelievably harsh

824
01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:57.840
things that happened with the Babylonians and
the Assyrians, and even in many cases

825
01:11:58.079 --> 01:12:00.720
God would come back to them with
a prophet said, you know, well,

826
01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:04.119
I pulled in these nations. I
moved them to come against you as

827
01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:08.359
a punishment. They did so much
more. I'm going to punish them now

828
01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:14.159
for their excesses. But we should
look at the Bible and we should tremble

829
01:12:15.199 --> 01:12:17.600
and what happened in Sodom and Gomoor
and the judgment that they suffered. What

830
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:24.159
happened to the people in the Canaanites
who were doing this child sacrifice, and

831
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:28.319
it continued on even after Israel went
into that area and so forth during the

832
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:34.760
Roman Empire and Carthage, where you
had Hannibal who was always fighting the Roman

833
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:41.800
Empire, and you had you know, he's the one who crossed the Alps

834
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.119
with the elephants and things like that, but he was a big threat to

835
01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:47.640
them, and perhaps because of that, but I think it was because God

836
01:12:47.720 --> 01:12:55.239
was moving them to judge Carthage,
because Carthage was involved in these same child

837
01:12:55.359 --> 01:13:01.399
ritual child sacrifices and these sexual orgy
cult followed up by child sacrifice cult,

838
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:06.319
and they go hand in hand.
And there was one Roman senator, I

839
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:10.239
think it was Kato, I can't
remember Kato, the elder or younger anyway,

840
01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:13.920
who ended every one of his speeches
in the Roman Senate they'd say,

841
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:17.920
oh, and one more thing,
Carthage must be destroyed, and they did

842
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:23.680
destroy it. God will execute judgment
on people. So the question, when

843
01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:28.079
we look at this and the harshness, the question should not be why were

844
01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:32.600
these people judged harshly? The question
should be why has he been so merciful

845
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:40.079
to us to delay this judgment?
To us, it's God's mercy and long

846
01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:45.199
suffering. He has shown us part
this is justified punishment to these people.

847
01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:48.439
He has shown that to us,
that that is what will happen to us.

848
01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:54.000
And yet he has, in his
mercy, both shown us what is

849
01:13:54.079 --> 01:13:58.479
right, shown us the consequences of
what is wrong, and given us time

850
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:01.119
to do the right thing and turn
towards him, both as individuals and as

851
01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:06.199
a culture. It may be too
late for our culture, it's not too

852
01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:11.840
late for any of us as individuals. And all of this is those types

853
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:15.960
of concerns that people have for that
are again the types of concerns that people

854
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:21.000
have, would God actually throws somebody
in hell? He makes it very clear,

855
01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:25.960
and if you believe the Bible,
that's very clear. People reject that

856
01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:30.239
because they don't like that that's what
the Bible says. But the key is

857
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:34.960
that all of us have been given
extended time. We've all been given an

858
01:14:35.039 --> 01:14:41.760
offer of God's free grace and mercy
and forgiveness and the offer of a new

859
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:45.560
beginning. And every day that we
thumb our nose at it is another day

860
01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:50.239
that we're building up, storing up
wrath to come. Whether it's society or

861
01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:56.840
whether it's us as individuals. But
anyway, that's my perceptive the way I

862
01:14:56.880 --> 01:14:59.720
see it. On Rock Fan,
Dougalog, thank you very much for the

863
01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:02.399
tip. On Rumble Rabid Roach,
thank you for the tip, he says,

864
01:15:02.399 --> 01:15:05.199
I was happy to suffer through a
class with my worst high school group

865
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:10.560
because I knew i'd follow it up
with David Knight. Well, thank you,

866
01:15:12.159 --> 01:15:18.199
thank you. Here's another piece of
history here. You still have Jack

867
01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:25.279
Phillips, the guy who was the
masterpiece of bakery. And if you remember,

868
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:27.760
you know this is a bakery.
He says, Well, I got

869
01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:30.720
pre made goods and I don't discriminate. I selled anybody who comes in here.

870
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:34.760
But if you come here and you
tell me that you want a particular

871
01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:41.479
cake to celebrate your homosexual marriage,
then I'm not going to do it because

872
01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:45.119
you're only doing that because you want
to rub my nose in this. Because

873
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:47.640
you know I'm a Christian. He's
playing Christian music, I think in the

874
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:50.600
bakery. I'm not sure about that, but I think I remember that.

875
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:55.319
But you know, you know that
I'm a Christian. It's like going into

876
01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:58.560
a Jewish deli and saying, you
know, I want you to, you

877
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:01.960
know, spell out I love Hitler
or whatever. You know. It just

878
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:06.119
that they were targeting his beliefs and
telling him that he had to create that.

879
01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:13.920
So he fought that in Colorado and
as a Colorado state government that was

880
01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:17.600
coming after him. The Colorado Supreme
Court was also involved in it, but

881
01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:20.840
it got overturned at the US Supreme
Court. And on the day that it

882
01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:27.840
was overturned in the US Supreme Court, you had one of the local Colorado

883
01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:35.560
lawyers who was an LGBT radical came
in and he was now a trainee,

884
01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:40.680
and he said, I want you
to make a cake to celebrate the anniversary

885
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:45.680
of my transition. I guess I'd
be a transversary cake. So he demanded

886
01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:47.800
that, and he says, no, I'm not going to do that,

887
01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:53.920
and so that began a new round, and that began a new round of

888
01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:58.159
the government in California and Colorado coming
after him. And again it's the same

889
01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:02.159
principle and they really don't care.
And so now he's fighting them again for

890
01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:05.000
years. And this is another case
that is going to be heard by the

891
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:09.960
Supreme Court. Presumably, the state, even though it had just been slapped

892
01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:15.960
down, launched an almost identical lawsuit
against another Christian owner of a digital corporation,

893
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:19.399
three h three Creative, and that
was also shut down by the Supreme

894
01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:25.079
Court. But again, they're coming
after this guy for the second time after

895
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:31.039
there's already been a Supreme Court ruling
about him and about these practices specifically there.

896
01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:34.640
I mean, it's no difference.
It's kind of like this judge in

897
01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:38.479
the Trump case I played yesterday and
goes, well, okay, there's no

898
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:42.319
two identical cases. You know,
maybe this guy was wearing a red shirt

899
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:44.560
on that day instead of a blue
shirt. So I guess maybe that's the

900
01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:48.960
difference in this was that when this
guy came in and demanded that he do

901
01:17:49.159 --> 01:17:54.960
that cake, maybe on that day
he was wearing a green shirt instead of

902
01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:59.720
a red one or something. No, the principal still the saying is still

903
01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:01.680
the same. And so they're trying
to get the Supreme Court without having to

904
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:06.319
go through all the legal process to
shut this down. Tell the Colorado State

905
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:11.439
persecutors to just stop this because this
is something that should affect everybody. Whether

906
01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:16.239
or not you agree with this.
You should not be compelled to do things

907
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:24.319
that violate your religious beliefs. That
was what Thomas Jefferson said. You know,

908
01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:28.680
the thing that he was most proud
of was not the Declaration of Independence,

909
01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:31.840
but his Document for Religious Liberty in
the State of Virginia. That's what

910
01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:35.960
he wanted to be recognized for.
He said, is that it is abhorrent

911
01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:43.960
to compel people to pay for and
to engage in beliefs and to do things

912
01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:47.520
that they don't agree with. So
this is a fundamental violation of that for

913
01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:51.960
everybody. And I used to,
as I said, he used to go

914
01:18:53.039 --> 01:18:56.720
to Colonial Williamsburg all the time.
There's a guy that who was very good

915
01:18:56.800 --> 01:19:00.880
is Thomas Jefferson. He's no longer
there now looked him up the other day

916
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:05.640
he is now at Monticello, and
as an older Jefferson, because he's quite

917
01:19:05.640 --> 01:19:10.279
a bit older now. But it
was back in the nineties when he was

918
01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:14.920
doing Jefferson and he would be brought
down to Raleigh, close to where we

919
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:17.600
lived, and there would be think
tanks that would have invite him in,

920
01:19:18.399 --> 01:19:24.119
and so I would go there I
and I engaged him in those meetings,

921
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:30.560
and I engaged in at Williamsburg.
I'm sure that he was tired of hearing

922
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:31.680
the question, but you know,
I said, well, you know,

923
01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:38.760
you said that it was wrong to
compel somebody to fund a religion that they

924
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:41.720
didn't believe him. That's what establishment
of religion really is. You know,

925
01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:46.439
they would require people all these different
states had different state religions, and the

926
01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:51.119
First Amendment came up because they didn't
want there to be an established federal state

927
01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:56.039
religion and that would be imposed on
everybody else because you know, in Rhode

928
01:19:56.079 --> 01:19:58.720
Island it was a Baptist, In
Maryland, it was the Catholics, and

929
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:01.920
it was kind of the Congregationalists in
most of New England and things like that,

930
01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:06.319
and so they didn't want to give
up their state churches. They're established

931
01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:12.479
state churches, and those established state
churches would in many cases require you to

932
01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:16.560
attend that church. But in other
cases they said, well, you don't

933
01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:18.920
have to attend it, but he's
still got to pay for it, still

934
01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:21.720
got to pay for it. And
so I would tell the guy who is

935
01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:28.199
a Jefferson and actor, I said, so, I agree with that principle,

936
01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:32.239
but you know, education is very
fundamentally about religion. So isn't it

937
01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:39.279
wrong to compel people to continue to
fund beliefs that are abhorrant to you,

938
01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:44.840
even if you're you and your children
are not compelled to attend. It is

939
01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:50.479
abhorrent to me to fund this gender
grooming that is going on, this Marxism,

940
01:20:50.600 --> 01:20:56.199
this hatred for our country, this
abuse of children, that is abhorrent

941
01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:01.319
to me. To fund that,
it violates everything in my conscience, you

942
01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:05.720
know, my idea of government,
my idea civility of the family, of

943
01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:11.520
the constitution, violates my religion.
To fund that. But anyway, that's

944
01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:14.600
where we are. So and we
had this discussion. I remember when it

945
01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:16.960
was going on and Gary Johnson was
running for president as a Libertarian, and

946
01:21:17.039 --> 01:21:20.359
he made the ridiculous analogy he said, yes, you know, this guy,

947
01:21:20.600 --> 01:21:27.800
Phillips should be forced to make this
cake. Now, what has happened

948
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:31.199
to the Libertarian Party? If they're
going to make this, they're going to

949
01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:36.279
have this guy be their candidate who
makes this argument. And the absurdity of

950
01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:39.279
what he had to say was he
said, well, you just think about

951
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:44.680
this. Think about if an electric
company could turn off your electricity because you're

952
01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:46.720
gay and they don't like that.
It's like, this is not at all.

953
01:21:47.239 --> 01:21:51.000
Do you realize you're talking about electric
utilities. You're talking about a company

954
01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:56.039
that's been given a monopoly. This
guy does not have a monopoly of bakeries.

955
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:58.640
There's any number of bakeries that they
could have gone to. They chose

956
01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:00.119
to go to him because they wanted
to up his nose in the cake.

957
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:06.680
I said, a better analogy would
be to look at the censorship that's being

958
01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:13.039
done on social media, which is
a de facto monopoly of the public square,

959
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:15.840
or a doopoly or oligarchy, if
you will. You have a few

960
01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:21.119
companies that are enforcing this stuff.
Even before we had all the receipts to

961
01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:24.600
show that it was coming from government, we knew it was coming from government.

962
01:22:24.600 --> 01:22:28.840
But I said, if you want
an analogy, Gary Johnson, then

963
01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:32.640
the analogy would be the phone company
when the phone company was mob Bell and

964
01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:35.399
or AT and T or whatever,
and they had a monopoly on the phones,

965
01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:41.960
and you got you know, the
operator, you know, one ring

966
01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:45.000
eating from what was her name?
Any of you wouldn't know. It was

967
01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:51.920
very old. But she's listening in
on the phone and she doesn't like what

968
01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:57.680
you say. She doesn't like you, so the monopoly phone company turns off

969
01:22:57.720 --> 01:23:00.600
your phone service. I said,
that's the analogy. Want to bring an

970
01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:04.000
anopoly thing in there to it.
It's not an individual small baker who is

971
01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:12.720
being who's being targeted. But this
latest lawsuit about the transiversary cake was this

972
01:23:13.119 --> 01:23:15.560
lawyer came back who had been fighting
him, you know and opposing him publicly,

973
01:23:16.439 --> 01:23:18.800
came in on the day that he
woned the Supreme Court and said,

974
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:23.279
I'm starting a new case against you
if you won't make my transiversary cake.

975
01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:28.319
So that is where we are,
and that is something that should affect everybody.

976
01:23:28.439 --> 01:23:32.199
No Americans should be compelled to express
or to do what they don't believe.

977
01:23:33.520 --> 01:23:38.840
And of course it's surprising that the
Supreme Court got that right because they

978
01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:43.920
were standing behind the fact that people
could be compelled to do what they don't

979
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:48.520
believe when it comes to the public
health and the jabs and all the rest

980
01:23:48.560 --> 01:25:29.159
of this stuff. We'll be right
back making sense. Comment again, you're

981
01:25:29.279 --> 01:25:39.000
listening to the David Knight Show.
Yeah, follow up comment. Thank you,

982
01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:41.960
rabid roache. She says, Uh, bake a cake to celebrate the

983
01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:44.800
fact that I chopped off my genitals
and set myself up for a life of

984
01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:48.920
misery. You big it? Yeah, that's un it is. It is

985
01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:54.840
a sad situation, and uh it
just the saddest thing about it. I

986
01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:57.439
mean, you know, we see
a lot of adults who regret this.

987
01:25:57.760 --> 01:26:00.039
And I remember when all this stuff
began, we didn't hear anything about this,

988
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:04.800
and till about fifteen, twenty,
fifteen, sixteen or whatever. Back

989
01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:09.680
in twenty fourteen, Michael Finn was
taking the lead with that with an adult

990
01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:15.000
Navy seal who had done that,
and he really regrets it, and he

991
01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:18.680
says, you know, I was
set up by these people. And he

992
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:23.479
says, if I can be set
up as an adult, we need to

993
01:26:23.479 --> 01:26:28.159
protect these kids. And we've heard
this over and over again from adults who

994
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:31.279
were set up for this stuff.
How easy is it to groom children.

995
01:26:31.319 --> 01:26:35.439
It's just reprehensible what is being done. What is being done by the medical

996
01:26:35.439 --> 01:26:42.560
community and the psychological community, a
psychologist, these people have been sources of

997
01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:45.960
misery and suffering for so many people
in so many different ways, and now

998
01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:51.520
they're focused like a laser beam on
the kids. That's what's so reprehensible about

999
01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:58.119
it. Anyway, this while we're
waiting for Tony to come on. This

1000
01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:01.079
is a short story, and it
is one of the funniest things I think

1001
01:27:01.079 --> 01:27:09.760
I've seen quite some time. Sam
bankman Fried, and there has been a

1002
01:27:09.880 --> 01:27:15.640
very detailed biography that has come out
just recently by the guy who wrote the

1003
01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:18.880
book about the Big Short, very
good book about the Big Shorts. I

1004
01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:29.680
don't know about SBF, but this
detail. He evidently has a dog that

1005
01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:34.399
is trained to kill, but who
doesn't. But Sam bankman Fried doesn't know

1006
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:44.079
the activation word. He's like lost
the password for the dog. It's like

1007
01:27:44.239 --> 01:27:48.319
all these stories about Joe Biden.
You know, We're getting this constant stream

1008
01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:54.640
of people that the dog has attacked
as Secret Service agents and now has attacked

1009
01:27:54.640 --> 01:27:59.800
somebody who is just there in the
garden. But I guess it's he's the

1010
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:06.880
family dog, but in this particular
one, this story is that and again

1011
01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:15.520
the book Is Going Infinite by Michael
lewis filled with strange anecdotes about this so

1012
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:19.279
called crypto hero or maybe he's a
heel, or maybe he's an inside plant

1013
01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:23.720
to discredit crypto in general. At
the end of the book, the writer

1014
01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:28.239
includes what may be an allegory for
the entire debacle and aside about his parents

1015
01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:33.560
getting a German shepherd that is trained
to kill if it hears a German language

1016
01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:39.640
command that they learned but that their
son failed to memorize. He doesn't know

1017
01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:43.640
the password for his dog. He
better not have any German friends, I

1018
01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:45.199
guess I gotta say that. So
when Sam was in a room with a

1019
01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:48.079
dog, it always felt as if
an accident was waiting to happen. He

1020
01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:53.359
wrote, it would have been very
Sam Bankman fried to have been eaten by

1021
01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:58.439
his own guard dog. Well,
the whole story sounds like a potential metaphor.

1022
01:28:59.319 --> 01:29:03.800
The existence of a canine killer named
Sandor was well documented at the beginning

1023
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:10.439
of twenty twenty three, when the
bankman Friedes welcomed the pup into their Palo

1024
01:29:10.520 --> 01:29:15.720
Alto home while their son was on
house arrest. As Forbes reported at the

1025
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:20.840
time, Sandor was indeed trained to
attack with a secret word quote unquote and

1026
01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:28.039
puck. The publication The UK revealed
that SBF's parents got the dog for him

1027
01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:32.760
as an unsolicited gift. Maybe they've
got a death wish for their son up

1028
01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:38.600
for his reckoning. He had just
shown up one day, so you know

1029
01:29:38.680 --> 01:29:43.760
when when you look at this and
then we'll get back to SBF later in

1030
01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:46.039
the show. Probably, But isn't
that the most amazing thing. You got

1031
01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:50.439
to attack dog trained to kill.
But this dufist doesn't bother to learn the

1032
01:29:50.479 --> 01:29:57.199
pass where the kill word, setting
himself up for this stuff. So we're

1033
01:29:57.239 --> 01:29:59.920
gonna take a quick break and we're
going to be right back with Tony or

1034
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:55.840
armand stay with us, hm hm
Joy listening to the David Night Show.

1035
01:30:56.720 --> 01:31:00.359
All right, welcome back and joining
us now? Is Tony Ardiman Why Wolf

1036
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:03.439
Gold? Of course he's kindly set
up David Knight dot gold to direct you

1037
01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:08.119
there and to let him know that
you're coming from this program. Good to

1038
01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:11.520
have you, Tony, Welcome,
good to see you, David. Thanks

1039
01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:15.840
for having me. I think SPF's
dog. Maybe the password is audit perhaps

1040
01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:19.199
he lost he lost the keys to
his own dog, like people lose their

1041
01:31:19.279 --> 01:31:23.920
keys to their bitcoin wall, you
know, isn't that funny? That is

1042
01:31:23.960 --> 01:31:28.920
the how many people we seen lost
the keys to something that is worth millions

1043
01:31:28.920 --> 01:31:30.720
of dollars and they can't find it
anywhere, or they threw away the disk

1044
01:31:30.760 --> 01:31:33.119
drive that had all the stuff,
you know, that that type of thing.

1045
01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:38.479
And of course this is a real
world consequence. Audit sounds kind of

1046
01:31:38.680 --> 01:31:41.239
German, doesn't it. Or maybe
it's just the association with the I R

1047
01:31:41.399 --> 01:31:46.000
S and uh, these these neo
Nazis or whatever that that's a double N

1048
01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:49.800
word. I guess, the neo
Nazis. But I guess that's why I

1049
01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:55.920
associate it with something German. I
don't know, but yeah, tell us

1050
01:31:56.199 --> 01:31:59.840
what what is on your mind?
You as we were talking in the break,

1051
01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:03.600
you said there's a lot of banks
that have been put on a death

1052
01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:06.600
watch. Tell us a little bit
about that. Yeah. I was looking

1053
01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:11.119
at a tweet from Robert Kiyosaki from
back on the first of October and I

1054
01:32:11.119 --> 01:32:15.199
wanted to read it. I was
not to retweet it on the wisewolf Gold

1055
01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:17.279
Twitter account, but I was going
over this morning. It says the FDIC

1056
01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:23.760
has over seven hundred and twenty five
US banks on a death watch list.

1057
01:32:23.960 --> 01:32:27.920
Says, what does that mean?
It means America does not need enemies.

1058
01:32:28.319 --> 01:32:31.800
America has bankers, our criminal bankers, start with Jerome Powell, the Fed,

1059
01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:36.640
Janet Yelling of the Treasury, and
Jamie demon of our banks. God

1060
01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:42.039
help us. USA does not need
criminals. We hire them as our bankers.

1061
01:32:42.439 --> 01:32:45.079
So said Robert Kiyosaki on his Twitter
account. Well that's so true.

1062
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:49.399
This is I think the biggest story
of our time, David, is going

1063
01:32:49.439 --> 01:32:55.560
to be the collapse of this financial
system, this fake financial system that really

1064
01:32:55.640 --> 01:32:59.399
has accelerated since nineteen seventy one,
since Richard Nixon took us off the gold

1065
01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:03.439
standard. And I wanted to talk
with you a little bit today about you

1066
01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:08.039
know, you opened up you're talking
about Sam Bankman Fry. But the crypto.

1067
01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:12.479
There's been so much movement there and
so many things going on with bitcoin

1068
01:33:12.520 --> 01:33:15.680
and crypto, and it's global.
We see Bank of America has launched its

1069
01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:21.279
own crypto. We've talked about CBDC. All of that. The private sector

1070
01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:26.960
and the decentralized market is a response
to the collapsing FIAT system. This is

1071
01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:30.760
all going on at the same time, and I mean we're watching gold,

1072
01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:34.560
watching central banks buying gold at record
pace. Shift Gold put out an article

1073
01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:39.600
today on zero Hedge. So there's
there's so much happening all at once,

1074
01:33:40.319 --> 01:33:43.159
you know, and the powers that
be are trying to capture that momentum by

1075
01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:45.760
creating CBDC. I honestly, David, I'm watching this and I'm just I'm

1076
01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:48.520
wondering if they can. I wonder
if it's gotten out of the control at

1077
01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:51.960
this point. Yeah, yeah,
who knows. It is amazing how many

1078
01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:56.399
different times I have seen these articles
that we've talked about this, you know,

1079
01:33:56.520 --> 01:34:00.319
before you and I about Costco selling
gold and being sold out everything.

1080
01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:03.359
You know, this is not about
central banks collecting gold anymore. This is

1081
01:34:03.399 --> 01:34:08.199
about the public starting to realize what's
going on here. And they've got a

1082
01:34:08.239 --> 01:34:15.239
new inflation floor, they're saying them. This is a Mark Spiegel of Standfull

1083
01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:19.520
Capital says, the new inflation floor
is going to be three to four percent.

1084
01:34:19.640 --> 01:34:23.600
They're not even trying to get back
to the magic standard has always been,

1085
01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:26.359
let's get inflation down to two percent. You know, they want to

1086
01:34:26.359 --> 01:34:29.000
inflate. They want to have inflation
but they don't want it to be any

1087
01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:31.840
higher than two percent. Now they've
just doubled that goal, which tells you

1088
01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:36.760
that there's something else going on.
And of course you're seeing people going through

1089
01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:43.000
Costco and other places showing snapshots that
they took a few months ago or a

1090
01:34:43.079 --> 01:34:45.319
year ago of what prices are and
how things are not up just a few

1091
01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:49.680
percent, there may be a double
or triple what they were. Well,

1092
01:34:49.760 --> 01:34:55.439
the the UN put out a notice
asking governments to stop the two percent goal

1093
01:34:55.880 --> 01:35:00.720
of inflation because it's hurting the economies
by not being more inflationary. And wait

1094
01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:03.479
a minute, I thought this was
supposed to be transitory. I thought that's

1095
01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:08.039
what Jerome Palle said. This was
all transitory, and Janet Yellen's used that

1096
01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:11.920
word transitory, that this wasn't going
to be an issue after they printed eighty

1097
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:16.920
percent of all the dollars that ever
created. Everything about the financial markets worldwide

1098
01:35:17.600 --> 01:35:23.760
is FIAT. It's fake, it's
built into the system, and it's unsustainable.

1099
01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:27.520
I mean, we're talking about trillions
upon trillions upon trillions. None of

1100
01:35:27.560 --> 01:35:30.960
this is going to be able to
be reeled in. And as we start

1101
01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:33.600
to see in the market in the
US, it's schizophrenic. As we talked

1102
01:35:33.640 --> 01:35:39.640
about every week on your show,
we're watching the price of gold go down.

1103
01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:42.199
At the same time, it's a
lot of the traders are saying,

1104
01:35:42.199 --> 01:35:45.000
well, we're fearful of the future. Why aren't you buying gold? But

1105
01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:47.079
they're saying, well, it's because
the Fed has raised rates, and of

1106
01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:50.600
course they have raised rates faster than
any time in history. We don't have

1107
01:35:50.680 --> 01:35:56.000
interest rates to the teams yet,
but they're believing that. And that's why

1108
01:35:56.000 --> 01:36:00.000
I think you're seeing the numbers in
precious metals. They're believing in the supremacist

1109
01:36:00.199 --> 01:36:03.560
of king dollar. I think that's
very short sighted. I don't think they

1110
01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:10.600
understand what has happened to the system
itself is in decline, and I think

1111
01:36:10.640 --> 01:36:13.560
that's what we're watching here. Yeah, you know, it's We went back

1112
01:36:13.640 --> 01:36:17.880
and rewatched recently The Big Short and
it was that same author who was doing

1113
01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:25.159
the biography of SBF and the common
thing. As I was looking at it

1114
01:36:25.159 --> 01:36:27.720
at this time, I was thinking, you know, they came up with

1115
01:36:27.840 --> 01:36:31.640
these financial derivatives that they had securitized
mortgages and everything. We just mix it

1116
01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:34.039
all together, put it in a
blender, and you know, you get

1117
01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:41.600
this whole slush slush fund thing essentially. But you know, they've always got

1118
01:36:41.760 --> 01:36:45.359
a different angle and everybody always thinks
that it's something that is different, and

1119
01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:50.159
yet there is a fundamental similarity there. You know, tistory doesn't repeat itself,

1120
01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:55.560
but it rhymes, and this financial
history rhymes. They come up with

1121
01:36:55.640 --> 01:36:59.359
these new schemes that are out there, but the fundamental thing is you got

1122
01:36:59.399 --> 01:37:01.399
to look at it these is this
real or not? And you've got to

1123
01:37:01.399 --> 01:37:04.960
get back to what is real.
And that was the thing about the two

1124
01:37:05.039 --> 01:37:08.760
characters, the central characters in his
book. There's a couple of them that

1125
01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:13.680
saw that, you know, this
whole securitized mortgage thing was going to go

1126
01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:16.920
really bad and that it was not
real at all, and they saw that

1127
01:37:16.960 --> 01:37:21.520
this was, you know, whatever
you make the financial instrument. The thing

1128
01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:27.479
that remains is that it is some
way for them to remove you from reality.

1129
01:37:28.279 --> 01:37:30.079
And you've got to get back to
something that is sound and that is

1130
01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:33.439
real. And I think there's nothing
that's more sound and more real than physical

1131
01:37:33.479 --> 01:37:36.880
gold. That's the key thing.
And you know you can't when you try

1132
01:37:36.920 --> 01:37:41.640
to evaluate all these different games and
tricks that they play, They're always going

1133
01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:45.920
to have a different game and different
tricks, but again your question always has

1134
01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:50.479
to be is this something that is
solid and is it real? Yeah,

1135
01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:58.039
the term hard money it comes from
the actual hardness of the asset and how

1136
01:37:58.079 --> 01:38:01.319
hard it is to produce. Every
time when you talk about the subprime mortgage

1137
01:38:01.399 --> 01:38:06.800
market or just credit itself after nineteen
seventy one, every time that you create

1138
01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:11.000
a loan, when you create a
mortgage, that's new currency that's being created

1139
01:38:11.039 --> 01:38:14.840
into the system. So if you
have this bonanza, this this market that's

1140
01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:18.920
looking at something like the mid two
thousands where they're you have low interest rates

1141
01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:25.279
and the government is creating the environment
to say no, you have to write

1142
01:38:25.319 --> 01:38:27.960
these loans, and you can.
You can get the ninja loans, the

1143
01:38:28.039 --> 01:38:30.840
no income, no job loans,
and just again, over and over,

1144
01:38:30.880 --> 01:38:34.279
these subtrimes built into this giant bubble
that is built to crash. Whereas something

1145
01:38:34.479 --> 01:38:39.680
that is backed by gold, you
have a currency system that has to have

1146
01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:44.640
checks and balances. That's where you
can have a safe environment. There's a

1147
01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:46.680
there's an economy that you can build
something on, you can have savings.

1148
01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:50.279
All of that's been taken away from
us. So we're in this free fall

1149
01:38:50.359 --> 01:38:54.640
where you know, the rich get
richer and the poor get poor because of

1150
01:38:54.680 --> 01:38:59.680
that system. That's why the elites
built the Federal Reserve, and it's the

1151
01:38:59.720 --> 01:39:02.920
money supply is the issue. You
go back to nineteen thirteen, you have

1152
01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:06.119
a dollar as good as gold.
You know, again, a twenty dollars

1153
01:39:06.079 --> 01:39:11.279
gold piece is roughly an ounce of
gold. By nineteen thirty three, because

1154
01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:14.560
the Federal Reserve had taken control of
the money supply, which is really the

1155
01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:17.239
banksters, they took control of it, they crashed the system. You know,

1156
01:39:17.279 --> 01:39:24.159
they had people were borrowing funds,
they had liquidity to borrow against stocks,

1157
01:39:24.159 --> 01:39:26.479
and then margin call happened, so
you know, you have the Great

1158
01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:30.479
Depression, and FDR made it illegal
for you to own gold so they could

1159
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:32.079
get the gold out of the hands
of the American people. He said,

1160
01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:35.479
turn your gold in, and people
did, and all of that gold David

1161
01:39:35.520 --> 01:39:40.680
went to the Bank of International Settlements. And once those twenty dollars goal pieces

1162
01:39:40.680 --> 01:39:44.680
were turned into all those gold coins, Franklin Roosevelt raised the price of gold

1163
01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:46.720
to thirty five dollars an ounce.
So they got the gold, and they

1164
01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:50.359
got the higher prices, and they
were able to offset whatever their losses were

1165
01:39:50.479 --> 01:39:54.439
that they caused and the Great Depression. So it's an end. It's a

1166
01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:57.680
club, and you ain't in it. You're not going to win this game.

1167
01:39:57.760 --> 01:40:00.439
So you got to look and see
what the elites do and what the

1168
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:03.960
banksters do, and not what they
say they want you in their fiat system.

1169
01:40:04.399 --> 01:40:08.800
And I was reading an article yesterday
and I didn't even know this,

1170
01:40:09.199 --> 01:40:12.560
just a little bit of history,
but it was on zero Hedge by the

1171
01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:17.520
International Man and they were talking about
in the nineteenth century, aluminum was very

1172
01:40:17.560 --> 01:40:23.000
sought after. It's very rare,
it doesn't occur naturally that often, and

1173
01:40:23.399 --> 01:40:26.600
now we just think of it's ubiquitous. It's like twenty cents a pound or

1174
01:40:26.600 --> 01:40:29.560
whatever it is, because we have
the ability through chemistry to make it in

1175
01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:33.439
mass. But back then, I
mean, Napoleon had his utensils that when

1176
01:40:33.479 --> 01:40:38.239
you go to his parties, people
the poor staff ate off the gold and

1177
01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:42.239
the silver, and the rich had
the aluminum, which is funny to us

1178
01:40:42.279 --> 01:40:45.000
now, but it was so much
more expensive, and by the Industrial Revolution

1179
01:40:45.079 --> 01:40:50.239
it just the price crater. But
people were getting their hands on aluminum.

1180
01:40:50.279 --> 01:40:54.439
And so what the article was saying
was if something is rare, something cannot

1181
01:40:54.479 --> 01:40:59.119
be reproduced easily, it becomes an
asset. And again it's another example of

1182
01:40:59.199 --> 01:41:01.520
hard asset. Well, gold has
stayed steady. I mean, we see

1183
01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:05.600
what's happened to illuminum, Gold and
silver have states that he especially gold.

1184
01:41:06.079 --> 01:41:10.319
You know, silver I think is
manipulated beyond the point where I can even

1185
01:41:10.359 --> 01:41:13.800
explain it. And we talked about
this many times, where you know,

1186
01:41:13.840 --> 01:41:18.560
even the paper price. You look
and it's estimated that for every ounce of

1187
01:41:18.640 --> 01:41:23.920
silver that they sell in paper,
you know, two hundred and forty times

1188
01:41:23.960 --> 01:41:27.800
one ounce exists in the real world. We don't really know what they're doing,

1189
01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:30.399
but I look at these these prices
right now are just absolutely ridiculous,

1190
01:41:30.680 --> 01:41:35.199
and I think it has to do
with that's the schizophrenia in the financial system,

1191
01:41:35.640 --> 01:41:40.680
and we really haven't reached a point
where reality is rearing its ugly head.

1192
01:41:40.720 --> 01:41:42.920
But I think that that day is
coming. You know, look at

1193
01:41:42.920 --> 01:41:47.399
this tweet by Robert Kiyosaki. You
mean the damage done and again inside job

1194
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:51.760
controlled demolition FTX, silver Gate Bank, Silicon Valley Bank, and all the

1195
01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:58.520
regional pressure that was put on We're
watching David. I think the auditioning of

1196
01:41:58.600 --> 01:42:01.199
the major banks to roll out the
Central Bank digital currency. It's going to

1197
01:42:01.239 --> 01:42:03.960
come after a crisis. So oh
yeah, well, I mean the long

1198
01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:06.840
way of saying, you need to
look at what value is that in the

1199
01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:11.319
future, not your dollar, And
that's true. And you know they're they're

1200
01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:15.119
how come you've got so many banks
that are on the death watch list?

1201
01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:17.359
Now, Well, it's because they
manipulated them with what with their bonds and

1202
01:42:17.359 --> 01:42:20.680
their treasury bonds and anything, rapidly
changing the rates on these things to you

1203
01:42:20.680 --> 01:42:25.479
know, make those bonds worthless,
and they couldn't adjust their position quickly enough.

1204
01:42:25.880 --> 01:42:27.880
So you know, now people are
saying, hey, you bonds are

1205
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:30.159
really good investments. Like seriously,
it was only just a few months ago

1206
01:42:30.159 --> 01:42:33.479
that we saw that as the weapon
to destroy these banks. You know,

1207
01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:38.960
when you've got something that it's like
a manufactured collectible or something, you know,

1208
01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:42.800
yeah, everybody go get the beanie
babies because their value is only going

1209
01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:44.960
to go up. And it's like, you're kidding me, right, They're

1210
01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:48.359
just making this stuff up all the
time, and it's not anything that's going

1211
01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:51.319
to have any lasting value. We
see seven hundred and twenty five of them

1212
01:42:51.319 --> 01:42:55.760
on the watch list, and you
know, as I mentioned earlier in this

1213
01:42:57.079 --> 01:43:03.359
court, case that went before the
Supreme Court about the Consumer Protection financial Consumer

1214
01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:09.960
Protection and Financial Board or whatever that
was put in place supposedly to protect consumers

1215
01:43:10.520 --> 01:43:14.479
and put in a lot of new
rules about what banks could how they could

1216
01:43:14.520 --> 01:43:16.800
do mortgages, right, and that
was what was driving these banks out of

1217
01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:20.079
business at the rate of a couple
hundred a year. And drudge doesn't import

1218
01:43:20.119 --> 01:43:23.800
on that again, you know,
but again that was a couple hundred a

1219
01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:26.560
year, and now we're looking at
seven hundred and twenty five based on the

1220
01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:30.920
actions of the Federal Reserve and their
rate manipulation in just this last year.

1221
01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:40.279
And the ridiculous commentary from mainstream media
was it was Vox who said, oh,

1222
01:43:40.319 --> 01:43:43.560
yeah, we don't want to get
rid of the consumer financial Consumer Protection

1223
01:43:43.640 --> 01:43:45.600
Financial Board, and all the banking
industry is telling us they don't want to

1224
01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:48.199
get rid of it because those are
the guys, the big guys who profited

1225
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:51.359
from these rules. They made it
impossible for small and medium sized banks to

1226
01:43:51.560 --> 01:43:55.479
do home loans anymore, and that
put a lot of them out of business,

1227
01:43:55.479 --> 01:43:59.359
and they want to keep that thing
going. But that's the insider game.

1228
01:43:59.399 --> 01:44:02.159
And when we talk about out silver
and the paper silver and paper gold.

1229
01:44:02.479 --> 01:44:06.640
I mean that that is essentially the
same game that they were playing with

1230
01:44:06.760 --> 01:44:11.319
secure highed mortgages. You know,
what do you really have here? Well,

1231
01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:14.279
do you really have a do you
really have a valuable mortgage here?

1232
01:44:14.319 --> 01:44:15.800
Is there anything of any value here? No, we just put this all

1233
01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:19.399
together and then you can buy shares
in it. And that's what they're doing

1234
01:44:19.439 --> 01:44:21.960
with the silver and goal, and
they're doing it in Shanghai, China.

1235
01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:26.319
You want to get you you want
to get yourself shanghaied, you know,

1236
01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:29.920
buy into the paper gold and the
paper silver shares. It's easy to buy

1237
01:44:29.960 --> 01:44:32.560
into them. You know, you
just go on to into the stock market

1238
01:44:32.600 --> 01:44:35.399
and they'll sell you this stuff.
But does it have any real value?

1239
01:44:35.439 --> 01:44:39.239
I don't think it does. I
think that there's another scam, just like

1240
01:44:39.279 --> 01:44:44.960
the securitized mortgages. It's funny when
history when governments pick up on that before

1241
01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:47.520
long before the people do. And
you look at what happened in the nineteen

1242
01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:53.960
sixties after the assassination and murder of
John F. Kennedy by the deep state.

1243
01:44:54.359 --> 01:44:57.439
We took the silver out of our
coin. It's something JFK didn't want

1244
01:44:57.479 --> 01:45:02.000
to do. He actually signed an
executive order on silver and had you know,

1245
01:45:02.279 --> 01:45:06.600
printed five dollars bills and notes direct
from the treasury, the only president

1246
01:45:06.680 --> 01:45:12.119
since Lincoln to do that. Well, you look at the debasement of the

1247
01:45:12.119 --> 01:45:16.000
currency. It happened post nineteen sixty
four. The governments around the world started

1248
01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:19.439
to take notice because we were technically
on a gold standard. We you know,

1249
01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:23.960
had the Breton Woods Agreement nineteen forty
four. Gold was thirty five dollars

1250
01:45:23.960 --> 01:45:27.840
announce and these countries would come over
and take their notes that they collected US

1251
01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:30.880
dollars and get a go to the
gold window. Well, after we started

1252
01:45:30.880 --> 01:45:33.000
debasing the currency, countries took notice. As matter of fact, the president

1253
01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:36.520
of France, the Gaul, he
sent warships over from France to pick up

1254
01:45:36.560 --> 01:45:41.800
his gold and again I think they
started to understand that. So there's a

1255
01:45:41.840 --> 01:45:45.439
there's a hint here that you know, when you start debasing things, and

1256
01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:49.359
especially since we've done this with the
massive amount of printing historical that's you know,

1257
01:45:49.680 --> 01:45:54.680
we don't these numbers, you can't
even fathom them that we delved into

1258
01:45:55.399 --> 01:46:00.359
post twenty twenty. And that's why
I think this everything that's based off dollars

1259
01:46:00.439 --> 01:46:02.680
right now is really a skew and
it doesn't make any sense. And this

1260
01:46:02.760 --> 01:46:06.840
may be a time when they're accumulating. You really just don't know. But

1261
01:46:06.920 --> 01:46:11.399
these numbers aren't reflecting reality. I
mean, the price of goal broke.

1262
01:46:11.439 --> 01:46:14.479
It's all time high in August of
twenty twenty, David, as you know,

1263
01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:19.000
and what's happened since then. We've
had a massive debasement of our currency

1264
01:46:19.079 --> 01:46:25.800
since then, and even the amount
of dollars used in financial transactions has dropped

1265
01:46:25.800 --> 01:46:30.319
close to fifteen percent globally since that
time. I mean, again, unprecedented.

1266
01:46:30.359 --> 01:46:34.800
So I don't think I don't think
the financial eleads and the mainstream media

1267
01:46:35.039 --> 01:46:39.359
they're never going to talk about this
until it's too late. And from what

1268
01:46:39.399 --> 01:46:42.319
I'm seeing, these stress tests and
other things. You have talked about the

1269
01:46:42.399 --> 01:46:46.319
banks going out of business and were
talking about bonds and other things. The

1270
01:46:46.359 --> 01:46:51.880
countries that are dumping us rapidly,
and it's happening even going into gold or

1271
01:46:51.920 --> 01:46:57.680
going to the Chinese. You want, this is historic and it's happening rapidly.

1272
01:46:57.800 --> 01:47:00.600
Oh yeah, And you know in
an article where they're talking about how

1273
01:47:00.760 --> 01:47:04.880
the use of the Euro has really
collapsed in the last nine months, again

1274
01:47:04.920 --> 01:47:10.319
because of this Ukraine stuff. Their
economy is on the ropes. And they

1275
01:47:10.359 --> 01:47:15.880
point out that the share of transactions
in the euro has dropped from thirty eight

1276
01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:19.239
percent in January to twenty three percent
at the end of August. And they

1277
01:47:19.279 --> 01:47:23.640
said, what is unusual about all
this is the fact that it hasn't happened

1278
01:47:23.640 --> 01:47:27.520
to the US yet. That is
right now is just in the Eurozone economy.

1279
01:47:28.279 --> 01:47:31.079
But you know, they continue to
be able to suspend reality with their

1280
01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:33.479
manipulations. And the question is,
you know, how long can they play

1281
01:47:33.479 --> 01:47:38.399
this con game. That's another thing
I noticed from the Big short you know,

1282
01:47:38.439 --> 01:47:43.720
these guys are going around and saying, you know, look, this

1283
01:47:43.760 --> 01:47:46.560
is what's being done, and this
is totally criminal and there's absolutely no value

1284
01:47:46.560 --> 01:47:49.560
here. And they're going to the
regulators, and they're going to the people

1285
01:47:49.600 --> 01:47:55.279
who do the rating of the bonds
and the ratings of the investments and stuff

1286
01:47:55.319 --> 01:47:58.399
like that, and they said,
yeah, okay, well, so what

1287
01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:00.840
I'm not going to do anything about
it. And this one character is like,

1288
01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:04.079
I just can't believe that the system
is this corrupt. I mean,

1289
01:48:04.119 --> 01:48:08.800
he just could not get his head
around the fact that these people are knowingly

1290
01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:12.479
doing this. But you know,
that's where we are right now. There's

1291
01:48:12.520 --> 01:48:15.520
many of us who understand that,
and that's really what is happening. But

1292
01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:19.359
in spite of all that, there's
a zero hydraunical talking about how gold is

1293
01:48:19.399 --> 01:48:25.359
held up extremely well in September,
even against rising real rates, even as

1294
01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:28.079
the home mortgages are starting to go
up to eight percent and everybody is to,

1295
01:48:28.239 --> 01:48:30.159
oh, now you need to get
into bonds and things like that.

1296
01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:34.680
No, actually, gold is holding
its own yeah, and it always will.

1297
01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:39.439
I mean again, there's the charts. If you look at the actual

1298
01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:44.359
supply of gold, I mean right
now, you know the annual supply is

1299
01:48:44.920 --> 01:48:47.279
not well, it's not in flux. There's not a lot of volume based

1300
01:48:47.319 --> 01:48:50.479
off of what's happened in history.
Most of the gold right now has already

1301
01:48:50.479 --> 01:48:54.720
been mined, and then it's come
from the centuries and centuries of mining.

1302
01:48:54.760 --> 01:48:59.760
So this isn't something that you can't
just go and create a new stock of

1303
01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:01.119
gold. They're not going to hit
some mother load anymore. This is not

1304
01:49:01.159 --> 01:49:05.119
going to happen. This is any
new exploration, any new mining is very

1305
01:49:05.119 --> 01:49:08.760
well crafted, very well planned.
It takes years, it takes lots of

1306
01:49:08.800 --> 01:49:12.000
work, so you just can't create
it out of thin air. And again

1307
01:49:12.039 --> 01:49:15.000
that's why governments are accumulating it.
Well. And as we look at you

1308
01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:19.880
know, this this mess in the
Civil War and the House GOP and I

1309
01:49:19.720 --> 01:49:24.840
I was looking at that, somebody
came up with about ten or twelve possible

1310
01:49:24.880 --> 01:49:27.600
candidates. You know, you've already
had Jim Jordan throw his hat in the

1311
01:49:27.680 --> 01:49:30.239
ring, then Steve Scalise officially.
There's other people they think may run,

1312
01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:33.920
like the house whipped Tom Emmer.
I thought, well, that'd be interesting.

1313
01:49:34.359 --> 01:49:38.800
I don't know anything about most of
these guys. I learned yesterday that

1314
01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:45.000
McHenry who is you know, the
secret speaker pro tem You know, they

1315
01:49:45.039 --> 01:49:48.479
don't tell people who it is until
the speaker's taken away for some reason.

1316
01:49:48.560 --> 01:49:51.000
Then that's like, you know,
well, let's open up the sealed letter

1317
01:49:51.039 --> 01:49:56.960
and find out who the replacement is. So the temporary replacement mckenry, somebody

1318
01:49:56.960 --> 01:50:01.319
who's been involved with the World Economic
Form speaking there many times, just like

1319
01:50:02.159 --> 01:50:04.760
McCarthy as well. But when you
look at Emmer, I don't know his

1320
01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:10.960
background except for the fact that he
has for several years running it has been

1321
01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:15.039
a big issue for him to oppose
this CBDC thing and to me, you

1322
01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:18.119
know, when we talk about all
the different things happening and the economic uncertainty,

1323
01:50:18.319 --> 01:50:20.760
inflation rearing its head, and all
the rest of this stuff, and

1324
01:50:20.800 --> 01:50:25.520
getting something that is real physical money, to me, it still goes back

1325
01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:29.119
to the CBDC thing. One of
the reasons why I don't think that emer

1326
01:50:29.239 --> 01:50:30.920
would get it because I think the
powers it be would want to keep somebody

1327
01:50:30.960 --> 01:50:38.279
away from the House Speakership who is
that that's strongly in opposition to CBDC,

1328
01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:43.319
because that is a big push for
both Trump and for Biden and for the

1329
01:50:43.439 --> 01:50:45.479
establishment to get that through. But
I think that is the key thing,

1330
01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:49.079
is what is going to happen with
the CBDC. That's always what I look

1331
01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:53.960
at in terms of the gold stuff. Yeah, and it's going to be

1332
01:50:54.039 --> 01:51:00.600
interesting because economic pressure is really where
the rubber meets the road in politics goes

1333
01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:02.199
back to the economy. Stupid,
you know, but that's really what it

1334
01:51:02.199 --> 01:51:05.079
comes down to it. Right now, we're still floating. There's a lot

1335
01:51:05.079 --> 01:51:10.600
of I mean psychological but the economy, despite what Robert Reich and Paul Krugman

1336
01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:14.159
say, the economy is not doing
well. I know that because I have

1337
01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:19.000
almost inverted my business where I'm buying
more instead of selling. And that's fine

1338
01:51:19.039 --> 01:51:21.920
because we're here, that's what we
do. We're a professional gold and silver

1339
01:51:21.960 --> 01:51:26.279
exchange. But I can tell people
are raising money, and I know people

1340
01:51:26.479 --> 01:51:30.720
and you know that are experiencing harder
economic conditions and having a harder time getting

1341
01:51:30.760 --> 01:51:34.880
liquidity. And some sectors are really
hurting, especially lending. So it's it's

1342
01:51:34.960 --> 01:51:40.079
not good. And you look at
what happened when when you have a financial

1343
01:51:40.079 --> 01:51:44.239
system that's on the ropes like ours, and when we reach some sort of

1344
01:51:44.279 --> 01:51:47.159
calamity, candidates like Robert F.
Kennedy Junior are going to be a lot

1345
01:51:47.199 --> 01:51:51.960
more attractive. And he's talked about, uh, the ability to hold bitcoin

1346
01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:56.760
being being sovereign and having your own
keys and your own wallet. That's good

1347
01:51:56.880 --> 01:52:00.880
and I think people are going to
start turning turning to golden We look at

1348
01:52:00.880 --> 01:52:02.680
you talked about the costco story and
you can't find gold there. Well,

1349
01:52:02.680 --> 01:52:04.960
you can get gold from men.
You can lock in the trade. You

1350
01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:09.479
can go for me anytime if if
the trading floor is open, I'll lock

1351
01:52:09.520 --> 01:52:12.640
it in for you. But people, I think again, this is this

1352
01:52:12.720 --> 01:52:17.119
is the beginning of the end of
the end, result of what's called Gresham's

1353
01:52:17.159 --> 01:52:20.560
law. And Gresham's law is when
bad money enters a system, good money

1354
01:52:20.560 --> 01:52:25.600
goes into a hot into hiding,
and that goes into hiding until this system

1355
01:52:26.119 --> 01:52:29.560
is complete, when it runs out
of everything. It's you know again,

1356
01:52:29.720 --> 01:52:31.399
Richard Nixon took us off the gold
standard seventy one. You got to know

1357
01:52:31.439 --> 01:52:35.319
this history, because that's when our
money became completely fake, and then other

1358
01:52:35.359 --> 01:52:40.239
countries all over the world started to
follow. So it's a complete worldwide financial

1359
01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:44.479
fake system. And they just print
it's Kynesian, you know. And I

1360
01:52:44.479 --> 01:52:46.960
think even Nixon said we're all Canesians. Now, well, good luck with

1361
01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:50.159
that, you know. John Mayner
Kaine said that gold was a barbarous relic.

1362
01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:54.680
Well, okay, then I guess
I guess. I guess I'm a

1363
01:52:54.680 --> 01:52:59.520
barbarian because I like value and I
don't want to take part in your fake

1364
01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:02.159
fiance system which has created so much
evil around the world. So I think

1365
01:53:02.159 --> 01:53:06.079
this people need to understand there's going
to be a shift in our perception of

1366
01:53:06.079 --> 01:53:10.199
what value is, and especially even
the average consumer. If you're selling out

1367
01:53:10.239 --> 01:53:13.760
of gold at costco, that's a
tell. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1368
01:53:13.760 --> 01:53:15.479
I think kines in economics is a
cane that people are going to lean on

1369
01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:20.319
that's going to pierce their hand.
You know, it's kind of and as

1370
01:53:20.319 --> 01:53:24.399
you're talking about, you know,
the Gresham's law as a system runs through

1371
01:53:24.439 --> 01:53:28.239
its completion now the words you go
through a cycle whereverybody realizes what a minute

1372
01:53:28.279 --> 01:53:30.079
this is, Uh, this is
garbage. And we're in that right now.

1373
01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:33.600
That's what the fourth turning is really
about. People realizing that, hey,

1374
01:53:33.680 --> 01:53:38.199
you know, Congress doesn't work.
Even the congressmen in Congress understand Congress

1375
01:53:38.199 --> 01:53:41.479
doesn't work. Uh, the federal
government doesn't work. None of these institutions

1376
01:53:41.520 --> 01:53:45.000
work. The schools don't work.
They're weaponized against us. And and and

1377
01:53:45.199 --> 01:53:48.520
you know when people look at the
financial system, they see how it's not

1378
01:53:48.600 --> 01:53:53.199
working and how it is also weaponized
against us. That is all part of

1379
01:53:53.239 --> 01:53:57.279
a fourth turning. Fourth turning.
Key thing in all of them has been

1380
01:53:57.319 --> 01:54:00.720
economics. They don't you don't always
have a war, but you always do

1381
01:54:00.920 --> 01:54:05.239
have massive economic unrest because of these
institutionals, institutional things that are failing.

1382
01:54:05.600 --> 01:54:11.359
Tell us a bit about what's going
on at Wisewolf and you know, how

1383
01:54:11.399 --> 01:54:15.359
are you doing personally there? And
with a store that's opened up now in

1384
01:54:15.399 --> 01:54:20.159
Texas physical presence there as well as
in Arkansas. But you know, tell

1385
01:54:20.199 --> 01:54:24.000
us at a bit about Wisewolf,
what's going on. Well, this morning,

1386
01:54:24.039 --> 01:54:27.760
I'm in Branson, Missouri, and
I'm here at this shop for the

1387
01:54:28.079 --> 01:54:30.680
next week or so. I've got
a great team up here, and we

1388
01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:34.479
got Dennis and Texas running it.
It's doing well, which is kind of

1389
01:54:34.479 --> 01:54:38.520
one customer at a time, and
it's proximity to the trading floor. And

1390
01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:42.000
we did that on purpose to create
a supply chain. Really, David,

1391
01:54:42.079 --> 01:54:45.039
I mean, I think that's all
goal dealers will be defined by their ability

1392
01:54:45.039 --> 01:54:48.600
to source product in the future.
So that's what I'm doing here. And

1393
01:54:48.960 --> 01:54:54.399
we have for your listeners if you're
listening live. We haven't announced it yet,

1394
01:54:54.399 --> 01:54:58.119
but I did a big silver buy
in for ninety percent, So all

1395
01:54:58.119 --> 01:55:02.279
those coins I was talking about pre
pre John F. Kennedy nineteen sixty four

1396
01:55:03.079 --> 01:55:09.800
or nineteen sixty three and before ninety
percent quarters half dollars, and we have

1397
01:55:09.880 --> 01:55:15.199
some ten ouns silver bars and about
I think about forty thousand dollars worth.

1398
01:55:15.239 --> 01:55:18.800
So we're going to be putting that
on a flash sale for all wolf Pack

1399
01:55:18.880 --> 01:55:21.960
members and that's going to go out
probably a little bit later today. I've

1400
01:55:21.960 --> 01:55:26.960
had it for a couple of days. Well, we're giving away Constitutional Silver

1401
01:55:27.439 --> 01:55:30.000
or anybody who joins wolf Pack or
upgrades and wolf Packet, if they're a

1402
01:55:30.039 --> 01:55:33.560
David Night listener, you can go
and just make sure you give David Knight

1403
01:55:33.600 --> 01:55:36.560
credit and we'll put your name aside
and that's going to we're going to send

1404
01:55:36.560 --> 01:55:41.840
you free Constitutional Silver, or if
you recommend somebody to join. That's to

1405
01:55:41.920 --> 01:55:45.239
me. Wolf Pack has been put
out front because the it's the community I

1406
01:55:45.279 --> 01:55:49.960
want to build and the network,
the purchasing power, all that I'm able

1407
01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:54.000
to do buy ins it. It's
just a good, good way to save.

1408
01:55:54.479 --> 01:55:58.560
It's a good way to stack in
kind of the face of dollar cost

1409
01:55:58.600 --> 01:56:01.079
averaging and the loss of purchase power
of the dollar. So whether gold's up

1410
01:56:01.159 --> 01:56:03.960
or down, you can just kind
of set it and we'll let us go

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01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:08.520
out and source your product for you. So go to David Knight dot gold

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and check out the tab that says
join Wolfpack. We have a lot going

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on there, and like I said, there's a flash sale going on today.

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If you want to go ahead and
email us or go to Davidnight dot

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gold and just let us. Know
you come from here. We haven't put

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01:56:19.960 --> 01:56:23.680
it out anywhere, so this is
the first time anybody's really hearing about it.

1417
01:56:23.720 --> 01:56:27.000
I had a David Night listener call
me yesterday and I actually sold him

1418
01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:29.600
some I said, well you get
to you get the first crack at it

1419
01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:31.800
because I have it sitting over here
on the shelf. So lots going on.

1420
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We definitely want to make gold and
silver affordable. Uh, and that's

1421
01:56:36.399 --> 01:56:41.439
why we developed wolf Pack. So
every call is important to us. Doesn't

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01:56:41.439 --> 01:56:44.000
matter how much you have, So
go to David Knight dot Gold. We

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01:56:44.319 --> 01:56:46.479
want you to be a part of
our of our pack. Well, that's

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01:56:46.479 --> 01:56:49.159
a great thing. You know that
you set this up to help people be

1425
01:56:49.199 --> 01:56:55.319
able to exchange information with each other
and and learn as well as you know

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01:56:55.359 --> 01:56:59.920
the flash sales like you're talking about, and then provide for you a main

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to save on a regular basis.
You know, that's the key thing for

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any kind of an investment program,
just doing it gradually and repetitively, and

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01:57:09.079 --> 01:57:13.319
that really does accumulate. And so
all those things are just indicative I think

1430
01:57:13.399 --> 01:57:15.640
of the way that you view the
business, Tony. You do a great

1431
01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:20.720
job of service for people, and
Tony I've known him for years, a

1432
01:57:20.760 --> 01:57:26.720
great, great guy, trustworthy and
all of that is very important. But

1433
01:57:27.760 --> 01:57:30.720
you know, it's we're now starting
to see that shift there. That's why

1434
01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:32.600
you're seeing the talk about. You
know, people can't find this stuff at

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retail, but Tony's got access to
the stuff there at the trading floor and

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01:57:40.079 --> 01:57:43.520
you know he'll eventually he can lock
in that price and eventually get that for

1437
01:57:43.640 --> 01:57:46.279
you. And that's the key thing. So thank you so much for joining

1438
01:57:46.359 --> 01:57:51.800
us Tony again. Wisewolf Gold and
you can find it at David Knight dot

1439
01:57:51.880 --> 01:57:55.520
Gold. We'll take you there and
let Tony know that we sent you.

1440
01:57:55.560 --> 01:57:58.079
Thank you so much, Tony,
Thank you, Dave appreciate it. Have

1441
01:57:58.119 --> 01:58:00.119
a good day. Okay, folks, you gotta take quick break and we're

1442
01:58:00.159 --> 01:58:05.279
going to join We're going to have
Guy Ralford join us, the gun guy.

1443
01:58:06.039 --> 01:58:10.720
It's got some very important information about
a self defense issue. He has

1444
01:58:11.239 --> 01:58:15.399
a Second Amendment attorney there, and
I think you're going to find this very

1445
01:58:15.399 --> 01:58:56.600
interesting. Stay with us, will
be right back in a world of deceit,

1446
01:58:56.920 --> 01:59:01.720
telling the truth is a revolutionary act. You're listening to the David Knight

1447
01:59:01.760 --> 01:59:05.880
Show, Yeah, you bet all
right. Joining us. Now is Guy

1448
01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:11.239
Ralford, and we've had him on
several times. That guy is an attorney

1449
01:59:11.760 --> 01:59:14.920
as well as an NRA firearms instructor
and other things like that, but he

1450
01:59:14.960 --> 01:59:19.000
focuses on a second amendment his practices
in Indiana, and there's a couple of

1451
01:59:19.119 --> 01:59:24.239
very interesting cases that he was directly
involved in, as well as a law

1452
01:59:24.960 --> 01:59:30.279
in Indiana that helps to clarify what
our rights are when we have to use

1453
01:59:30.359 --> 01:59:32.600
deadly force and self defense. And
so we want to talk about those two

1454
01:59:32.640 --> 01:59:35.760
cases with him. Thank you for
joining us, Guy. Oh, it's

1455
01:59:35.800 --> 01:59:40.159
always a pleasure, David. Let's
talk about this is a couple of different

1456
01:59:40.159 --> 01:59:44.520
cases. Christy Phillips was one that
you got involved in, and tell us

1457
01:59:44.520 --> 01:59:46.000
a little bit about the facts of
that case and then how that got you

1458
01:59:46.439 --> 01:59:54.119
to get involved in changing the law. And then now you've had another second

1459
01:59:54.159 --> 01:59:59.479
case and you've seen how important it
is that that law was changed. But

1460
01:59:59.520 --> 02:00:01.760
first tell us bit about Christy Phillips
and what happened in that particular case.

1461
02:00:02.479 --> 02:00:09.560
You bet Kisty is a very heroic
young lady who lives down in southern Indiana

1462
02:00:09.600 --> 02:00:14.000
in a very small town called Rising
Sun, Indiana. And here about four

1463
02:00:14.079 --> 02:00:20.199
years ago, she was involved in
a situation where there was a traffic stop

1464
02:00:20.279 --> 02:00:25.199
right in front of her house,
and it being a very small town,

1465
02:00:25.359 --> 02:00:29.359
the officer who had pulled over this
guy for suspicious activity in the neighborhood.

1466
02:00:30.399 --> 02:00:35.439
That officer's son was actually at Kisty's
house because he knew Kisty's daughter, and

1467
02:00:35.479 --> 02:00:42.159
so they're watching it basically as this
kid's dad and their fellow community member.

1468
02:00:42.239 --> 02:00:45.079
This police officer had pulled this person
over. A person turned out to be

1469
02:00:45.760 --> 02:00:50.640
on drugs, on methamphetamine as well
as other illegal drugs. He immediately got

1470
02:00:50.640 --> 02:00:59.000
out of the vehicle. He's screaming
profanity. He's screaming undecipherable gibberish. The

1471
02:00:59.039 --> 02:01:00.720
officer tells him to get tells him
to get back in his vehicle. He

1472
02:01:00.800 --> 02:01:04.760
doesn't. He ends up running up
on the officer, tackles the officer and

1473
02:01:04.880 --> 02:01:11.319
is trying to get the officer's gun. The person who was a former high

1474
02:01:11.359 --> 02:01:15.880
school wrestler, pretty stocky guy,
and he's winning the fight and and the

1475
02:01:15.920 --> 02:01:18.680
officer's losing control of his firearm.
There's they're still wrestling over it to some

1476
02:01:18.760 --> 02:01:25.359
degree, but but Kissy realizes this
is about to turn very bad very quickly,

1477
02:01:25.840 --> 02:01:29.560
she grabs her gun. She runs
out to the front of her house,

1478
02:01:29.600 --> 02:01:30.640
and she's yelling, get off him, get off him, stop.

1479
02:01:30.680 --> 02:01:38.159
Stop. That guy doesn't stop.
The gun's literally seconds or milliseconds away from

1480
02:01:38.239 --> 02:01:43.119
being aimed at the police officer's head, and she shot the bad guy and

1481
02:01:43.239 --> 02:01:47.399
uh and ended the threat and that
person ended up dying. But the that

1482
02:01:47.520 --> 02:01:51.760
officer actually later on told me,
uh, he said, he said,

1483
02:01:51.760 --> 02:01:54.680
you know, when I heard that
gun shot, I really thought it was

1484
02:01:54.760 --> 02:01:58.039
me dying, and I was and
I was saying a prayer that I just

1485
02:01:58.039 --> 02:02:01.119
hope my son didn't didn't watch me
get killed. But in fact, that

1486
02:02:01.279 --> 02:02:05.359
the gunshot was Kissedy, uh,
which is like Christie without the R.

1487
02:02:06.560 --> 02:02:13.359
It always sounds like people are mispronouncing
it. Yeah, I see that really

1488
02:02:13.439 --> 02:02:15.359
quickly. Yeah. Well it's not
as weird as guy, but it's a

1489
02:02:15.359 --> 02:02:19.359
little bit of an unusual name.
But but at any rate, Uh.

1490
02:02:20.319 --> 02:02:25.399
The local prosecutor's office called your hero. The local police officers called your hero.

1491
02:02:25.600 --> 02:02:30.319
This particular officer definitely called her a
hero, saying that she clearly saved

1492
02:02:30.319 --> 02:02:34.079
his life, but just shy of
Two years later, just before the statute

1493
02:02:34.119 --> 02:02:40.239
limitations would run, she get sued
for millions and millions of dollars by the

1494
02:02:40.279 --> 02:02:46.199
family of the deceased bad guy,
uh, saying that she was just a

1495
02:02:46.399 --> 02:02:53.279
hysterical female who had overreacted and and
and there was never a reason to use

1496
02:02:53.319 --> 02:02:58.800
deadly force. Uh and this was
wrongful death. And she now owes the

1497
02:02:58.880 --> 02:03:04.079
family mill Wow, did they not
have a Was there a police officer's body

1498
02:03:04.159 --> 02:03:10.840
camera or and our camera in the
police car that requires Yeah, there was

1499
02:03:10.920 --> 02:03:15.119
no video. There was no video
of the event. But everybody there,

1500
02:03:15.359 --> 02:03:17.720
everyone who witnessed it, including the
officer, told the same story. I

1501
02:03:17.720 --> 02:03:23.520
mean, there was really no ambiguity
about what happened. But because this was

1502
02:03:24.039 --> 02:03:29.159
something that happened literally in her front
yard, her homeowner's insurance was implicated.

1503
02:03:29.199 --> 02:03:32.760
And what's really interesting about homeowners insurance
in this situation is there's an exclusion for

1504
02:03:32.920 --> 02:03:36.960
intentional acts, like if I intentionally
hurt somebody on my property. But there's

1505
02:03:36.960 --> 02:03:42.000
an exception to the exclusion, which
is if I acted lawful and justified self

1506
02:03:42.079 --> 02:03:45.079
defense or defense of a third person. So her insurance company center a letter

1507
02:03:45.079 --> 02:03:47.960
and said, well, we're going
to defend you, but one we have

1508
02:03:48.000 --> 02:03:51.079
the right to settle if we want
and two, if it turns out you

1509
02:03:51.079 --> 02:03:55.840
were not justified, you have no
coverage as against any verdict that might be

1510
02:03:55.880 --> 02:04:00.600
imposed against you. Wow. So
the local police officers, the fterneral order

1511
02:04:00.680 --> 02:04:02.119
or police down there, looked at
this whole situation and said, we don't

1512
02:04:02.159 --> 02:04:08.000
like anything about this, the fact
she's being sued, that the insurance company

1513
02:04:08.079 --> 02:04:12.479
has the ability to control the defense
and any potential settlement. And they actually

1514
02:04:12.479 --> 02:04:15.920
called NRA. At the same time, they set up a gofund me account

1515
02:04:15.159 --> 02:04:19.920
and raised a bunch of money,
almost six figures. And so we want

1516
02:04:19.920 --> 02:04:24.800
to hire the best self defense lawyer
that we can find in Indiana, and

1517
02:04:24.800 --> 02:04:29.840
they called NRA. NRA thankfully,
at least I'm grateful they recommended me,

1518
02:04:30.520 --> 02:04:32.479
and she hired me, And I
told her two things when she hired me,

1519
02:04:32.560 --> 02:04:34.760
I said, I said, Kissy, we're not only going to win

1520
02:04:34.800 --> 02:04:39.640
this stupid case because it's a frivolous
lawsuit. Well, we're going to use

1521
02:04:39.680 --> 02:04:44.520
this case to change the law.
And that's exactly what we did. We

1522
02:04:44.560 --> 02:04:46.640
got that case dismissed. But in
the meantime, we had a bill pending

1523
02:04:46.640 --> 02:04:53.600
in the General Assembly in Indiana that
says there's complete immunity for the lawful and

1524
02:04:53.720 --> 02:04:57.319
justified use of force and self defense
or defense of a third person. You

1525
02:04:57.359 --> 02:05:00.439
can't file a lawsuit if you were
injured by that justified use of force,

1526
02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:05.199
or you're if you're the family of
a person who dies as a result of

1527
02:05:05.239 --> 02:05:10.159
that justified uh force and self defense
or defense of a third person. And

1528
02:05:10.199 --> 02:05:14.399
if you say, damn the torpedoes
and file a lawsuit anyway in the face

1529
02:05:14.439 --> 02:05:17.159
of this immunity, there's a mechanism
to get the case dismissed curly on what's

1530
02:05:17.159 --> 02:05:23.640
called summary judgment. And there's a
mandatory attorneys fees provision that says that the

1531
02:05:23.640 --> 02:05:28.399
plaintiff then has to pay back all
the defendant's attorneys fees were having brought that

1532
02:05:28.479 --> 02:05:32.920
troublous lawsuit in the face of the
immunity statute. So that's and you yours,

1533
02:05:32.960 --> 02:05:36.199
what we did. You were involved
that is an amazing case, the

1534
02:05:36.239 --> 02:05:39.840
facts of that, and then and
then the follow up to that, and

1535
02:05:40.119 --> 02:05:45.479
then you are involved in that legislation. Is that correct? I was because

1536
02:05:45.760 --> 02:05:49.560
and I'm real active legislatively. I
started a group called the Two Way Project,

1537
02:05:49.600 --> 02:05:54.399
which is folks focused on Second Amendment
rights. As you mentioned, my

1538
02:05:54.520 --> 02:05:58.800
law practice is folks focused on Second
Amendment rights, and so I'm very I've

1539
02:05:58.800 --> 02:06:02.399
always been very involved legislatively, and
I've helped write other bills or have written

1540
02:06:02.399 --> 02:06:06.079
other bills, and so here I
wrote a self defense bill that laid out

1541
02:06:06.279 --> 02:06:11.880
what we just described and then took
it to some legislators here in Indiana and

1542
02:06:11.920 --> 02:06:14.359
said, hey, we want to
get this thing passed. And I was

1543
02:06:14.399 --> 02:06:18.560
able to do that in the context
of Kisty's story, which made it that

1544
02:06:18.640 --> 02:06:21.640
much more compelling. And by the
way, I mean, I always liked

1545
02:06:21.680 --> 02:06:25.680
to brag that I wrote this thing
and then helped to get it passed.

1546
02:06:26.640 --> 02:06:30.000
But Kisty came in and testified in
both both the House committee that heard the

1547
02:06:30.039 --> 02:06:34.119
bill and the Senate committee in Indiana, and it wasn't it dry eye in

1548
02:06:34.239 --> 02:06:41.119
the room because of how compelling her
story was that she really was forced into

1549
02:06:41.159 --> 02:06:46.760
this to defend a neighbor and a
police officer, and then her life basically

1550
02:06:46.840 --> 02:06:50.239
could have been destroyed by her being
sued for millions and millions of dollars,

1551
02:06:50.239 --> 02:06:55.800
and it was very compelling. So
Kisty Phillips is the reason we have that

1552
02:06:55.880 --> 02:06:59.800
new statute. Well, that's great. I'm glad to see a happy ending

1553
02:06:59.840 --> 02:07:01.600
to this, and it is a
happy ending, and you know, she

1554
02:07:01.680 --> 02:07:05.199
went through this, but it's going
to be something she can be proud of.

1555
02:07:05.720 --> 02:07:09.760
You know, this there wasn't it
wasn't pointless suffering, and it had

1556
02:07:09.760 --> 02:07:13.640
a good resolution in it. You
know, you talk about her particular testimony,

1557
02:07:13.640 --> 02:07:17.239
it reminds me of years and years
ago the Louby cafeteria situation. Had

1558
02:07:17.279 --> 02:07:20.319
a woman who was a dentist and
she was there with her parents and she

1559
02:07:20.520 --> 02:07:26.319
was you know, at the time, she wasn't allowed to carry her firearms,

1560
02:07:26.359 --> 02:07:28.600
so she left it, and you
know, she was worried about the

1561
02:07:28.680 --> 02:07:31.359
legal invocations of it, so she
left it in her glove compartment, had

1562
02:07:31.800 --> 02:07:36.319
somebody drive through into the building with
its car, it gets out, starts

1563
02:07:36.359 --> 02:07:42.840
shooting people. And her testimony,
she later became a legislator, and I

1564
02:07:42.840 --> 02:07:47.479
remember seeing her testimony many many times, careful testimony of how if she had

1565
02:07:47.560 --> 02:07:53.239
had her gun, she could have
saved her parents, but she was told

1566
02:07:53.279 --> 02:07:56.159
that she couldn't and that made a
big, big difference. And unfortunately,

1567
02:07:56.199 --> 02:07:59.800
you know, it was a very
tragic situation for her because she lost both

1568
02:07:59.800 --> 02:08:03.079
of her parents and a lot of
people were killed in that The good thing

1569
02:08:03.239 --> 02:08:07.359
in this one is that even though
Kissy went through a real ordeal with that,

1570
02:08:07.479 --> 02:08:09.279
and it is an ordeal whenever you
have to use your gun to kill

1571
02:08:09.319 --> 02:08:16.159
somebody, but it is it is
preferable to seeing your loved ones or friends

1572
02:08:16.319 --> 02:08:22.079
or someone killed murdered unnecessarily. And
so you know, for all the stuff

1573
02:08:22.119 --> 02:08:24.680
that she went through it and had
had a great outcome, that's a super

1574
02:08:24.760 --> 02:08:31.359
story really well, you know.
And and what really hit me hard it

1575
02:08:31.399 --> 02:08:33.760
meant a lot to me is in
one of the committee hearings, I was

1576
02:08:33.760 --> 02:08:39.720
in the House Judiciary Committee, one
of the legislators seeing that that Kissy was

1577
02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:46.439
very emotional about this and was obviously
putting herself through the trauma again by coming

1578
02:08:46.479 --> 02:08:50.399
in and testifying publicly about it when
she didn't have to do that. She

1579
02:08:50.399 --> 02:08:56.279
she could have stayed home and avoided
having to relive that whole traumatic situation,

1580
02:08:56.399 --> 02:09:00.920
including the trauma be ensued where she
was worried about losing her her kids who's

1581
02:09:00.920 --> 02:09:05.159
a single mom. She was worried
about losing her her daughter's college savings funds,

1582
02:09:05.199 --> 02:09:07.359
and her house. But at any
rate, one of the legislators asked

1583
02:09:07.359 --> 02:09:11.439
her and said, you know what
made you come in and speak to us

1584
02:09:11.640 --> 02:09:16.000
and and and support this bill.
As you said, you know what,

1585
02:09:16.960 --> 02:09:22.640
without an immunity bill like this,
if these people were able to successfully sue

1586
02:09:22.640 --> 02:09:26.000
me, for instance, then I'm
worried that the next person won't run out

1587
02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:31.000
their door and save that police officer, or the next person won't, you

1588
02:09:31.039 --> 02:09:35.960
know, take their take their gun
into Libby's and have it available to them

1589
02:09:37.000 --> 02:09:41.560
to save innocent lives. And I'm
I'm worried about the negative effect that a

1590
02:09:41.600 --> 02:09:46.239
law seat like this has. And
I'm willing to put myself through this because

1591
02:09:46.279 --> 02:09:50.439
I think that we need this law
for exactly that reason, and as a

1592
02:09:50.479 --> 02:09:54.000
deterrent to those lawsuits, so that
the lawsuits aren't a deterrent to law abiding

1593
02:09:54.000 --> 02:10:00.199
citizens defending themselves or defending other innocent
people. And again, I that was

1594
02:10:00.239 --> 02:10:03.920
incredibly compelling. Oh yeah, yeah. And of course the insurance company,

1595
02:10:03.239 --> 02:10:07.439
if they didn't throw her under the
bus, they would have thrown everybody else

1596
02:10:07.520 --> 02:10:09.960
under the bus, even by making
some kind of a settlement. You know,

1597
02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:15.199
that's probably what these people had calculated. She's got deep pockets because of

1598
02:10:15.239 --> 02:10:20.039
the policy that's there, and you
know that would have established that kind of

1599
02:10:20.279 --> 02:10:24.520
precedent that you talked about for everybody
else and put a lot of people at

1600
02:10:24.600 --> 02:10:30.000
risk. It would have raised everybody's
insurance premiums, because that's why the insurance

1601
02:10:30.000 --> 02:10:31.000
company doesn't care about that kind of
stuff. It's like, yeah, we'll

1602
02:10:31.000 --> 02:10:35.760
make a settlement with them, and
we'll just raise everybody's premiums. So it

1603
02:10:35.840 --> 02:10:39.880
helped in so many different ways.
It truly is amazing. And that's something

1604
02:10:39.359 --> 02:10:43.880
the law getting passed is how long
ago was this case? You said they

1605
02:10:43.920 --> 02:10:48.720
waited two years before they came after
Kissy was And then when did this law

1606
02:10:48.760 --> 02:10:52.640
get put through? Did the law
just get passed through recently? Actually the

1607
02:10:52.720 --> 02:10:56.960
law just the law went into effect
twenty nineteen, Okay, okay, So

1608
02:10:58.039 --> 02:11:01.159
I guess the event with Kissy was
perhaps a little earlier than what I described.

1609
02:11:01.199 --> 02:11:05.520
But the law was passed in twenty
nineteen, and that was a little

1610
02:11:05.560 --> 02:11:09.880
more than two years after the original
incident. And it was kind of neat

1611
02:11:09.880 --> 02:11:16.640
because we had the NA annual meeting
here in Indianapolis that year and UH and

1612
02:11:16.720 --> 02:11:20.800
our governor, Governor Holcomb actually signed
the bill into law from the from the

1613
02:11:20.840 --> 02:11:24.520
main stage at the NA leadership conference, which was a big event. So

1614
02:11:24.600 --> 02:11:28.760
it was it was. It was
very satisfying. A lot of workmen into

1615
02:11:28.800 --> 02:11:33.159
it. But I was able to
be there with kisst when the governor signed

1616
02:11:33.199 --> 02:11:35.279
it, and so it was it
was. It was a big event,

1617
02:11:35.319 --> 02:11:39.800
but it's a it's a it's a
really important change, and I'm proud that

1618
02:11:39.840 --> 02:11:43.279
it happened in Indiana. But one
of the reasons I was so enthused about

1619
02:11:43.279 --> 02:11:46.560
talking to you about it, David, is there's no reason why this shouldn't

1620
02:11:46.560 --> 02:11:50.760
be the law in all fifty states. Now we know there are blue states

1621
02:11:50.760 --> 02:11:54.399
out there that would never consider it
in a million years. Could they despise

1622
02:11:54.520 --> 02:11:58.800
our ability to defend ourselves. But
for for for the majority of the states

1623
02:11:58.840 --> 02:12:03.680
in his country, there's no reason
why there shouldn't be a similar lay out

1624
02:12:03.680 --> 02:12:05.319
there protecting people. And I'll tell
you, I mean, for instance,

1625
02:12:05.359 --> 02:12:09.920
I'm I'm not only an instructor,
but I'm kind of a training junkie when

1626
02:12:09.920 --> 02:12:13.359
it when it comes to firearms and
self defense, and I go to multiple

1627
02:12:13.439 --> 02:12:18.319
classes every year, and I bet
I've been literally, I bet I've been

1628
02:12:18.359 --> 02:12:22.479
to three or four dozen k classes
where at some point there's a lecture that

1629
02:12:22.520 --> 02:12:26.600
says, and oh, by the
way, if you use force even if

1630
02:12:26.640 --> 02:12:28.960
you're completely justified, you just better
count on getting sued. The bad guy

1631
02:12:30.000 --> 02:12:31.279
is going to suit on. It
doesn't matter if he breaks into your house,

1632
02:12:31.640 --> 02:12:35.239
if he gets hurt, he's going
to sue you. Or if he

1633
02:12:35.279 --> 02:12:37.199
gets killed, his family's going to
sue you. And I would always sit

1634
02:12:37.199 --> 02:12:39.960
there listening to that lecture, especially
as a lawyer, going well, why

1635
02:12:41.119 --> 02:12:45.039
is that? Why is that?
Okay? You know what, and let's

1636
02:12:45.039 --> 02:12:46.680
fix this thing. You know,
we got this nail that we've been got,

1637
02:12:46.720 --> 02:12:50.319
the old sleeping dog has been laying
on this nail on the front porch

1638
02:12:50.359 --> 02:12:52.079
and just too much a problem to
get up and do something about it.

1639
02:12:52.119 --> 02:12:56.159
You know, let's fix this problem
exactly. And and and by the way,

1640
02:12:56.239 --> 02:13:00.920
Kissy at the time was the seventh
person that I had represented who would

1641
02:13:01.000 --> 02:13:05.800
lawfully and justifiably use force and self
defense and either got prosecuted or got sued

1642
02:13:05.920 --> 02:13:07.239
or both. And I looked at
that and said, you know, that's

1643
02:13:07.279 --> 02:13:11.600
just not okay. I'm not trying
to cut into my own business, but

1644
02:13:11.640 --> 02:13:16.680
I'd rather have citizens have immunity.
And that mandatory attorneys fees provision is so

1645
02:13:16.760 --> 02:13:22.239
important because that's a big deterrent because
before that Planeff's lawyer. I mean,

1646
02:13:22.279 --> 02:13:24.399
how many times have you heard the
commercial of well, unless I recover for

1647
02:13:24.439 --> 02:13:26.840
you, you don't have to pay
me any attorney's fees, right, I

1648
02:13:26.880 --> 02:13:31.159
mean you see that commercial all the
time. Well, now they can say,

1649
02:13:31.199 --> 02:13:33.640
well, you don't have to pay
me any money as your lawyer is

1650
02:13:33.680 --> 02:13:35.720
the Planeffs lawyer, unless we recover. But oh, by the way,

1651
02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:39.560
there's this immunity that we probably can't
defeat. And if we can't defeat it,

1652
02:13:39.640 --> 02:13:41.880
the case is going to get dismissed. And once the case get is

1653
02:13:43.239 --> 02:13:46.439
dismissed, you have to pay all
the other side their attorney's fees back.

1654
02:13:46.800 --> 02:13:50.840
Yeah, after recovering nothing. So
it's a huge deterrent and we're really proud

1655
02:13:50.880 --> 02:13:52.760
of it. That's good. Yeah, people need to look at that.

1656
02:13:52.800 --> 02:13:56.199
And you know, we see these
types of things going around there, the

1657
02:13:56.239 --> 02:14:00.640
gun control laws. Some you know, California will come up with some idea

1658
02:14:00.640 --> 02:14:03.840
in New Jersey and they'll start passing
that around. But it works the other

1659
02:14:03.880 --> 02:14:07.119
way as well. You know,
we've seen the increase in constitutional carry bills

1660
02:14:07.800 --> 02:14:11.720
going around and increasing in states,
and this is the type of thing that

1661
02:14:11.760 --> 02:14:16.600
really does need to increase. I've
heard all the commercials about you know,

1662
02:14:16.640 --> 02:14:20.720
well, if you carry concealed,
you know you need to join this organization.

1663
02:14:20.840 --> 02:14:22.159
We've got like an insurance policy here
to defend you. But you know,

1664
02:14:22.159 --> 02:14:26.119
cut it off at the beginning,
you know, don't clutter, don't

1665
02:14:26.159 --> 02:14:31.760
expose anybody to this jeopardy. If
it is justifiable and the law enforcement people

1666
02:14:31.359 --> 02:14:37.039
realize that it's justifiable, you should
not have any legal jeopardy over some kind

1667
02:14:37.079 --> 02:14:41.159
of a civil action that is being
taken over that that really is the right

1668
02:14:41.159 --> 02:14:43.920
approach. You're correct about it,
and that's how our statute works. Actually

1669
02:14:43.079 --> 02:14:46.720
good picking up exactly on your point, David, which is that if there's

1670
02:14:46.720 --> 02:14:52.640
no criminal prosecution from the use of
force where self defense or defense of a

1671
02:14:52.640 --> 02:14:58.520
third person is claimed, that lack
of criminal prosecution raises a presumption of justification,

1672
02:14:58.920 --> 02:15:03.600
which implicates the immunity, and you
can use that presumption of justification to

1673
02:15:03.600 --> 02:15:07.520
get the case thrown out early based
on a lack of criminal prosecution. So

1674
02:15:07.560 --> 02:15:11.319
it really works exactly like you suggested, and that's how we wrote the statute

1675
02:15:11.720 --> 02:15:16.079
that we've had for a while,
and here just recently what was really satisfying.

1676
02:15:16.159 --> 02:15:18.880
I know you've seen this opinion is. We were able to use that

1677
02:15:18.920 --> 02:15:26.680
statue to get a case where I
represented two homeowners who defended their home against

1678
02:15:26.680 --> 02:15:28.520
somebody trying to break in in the
middle of the night and then got sued

1679
02:15:28.560 --> 02:15:33.800
for it. We were able to
successfully have that case dismissed her more recently,

1680
02:15:33.800 --> 02:15:35.239
and that's a compelling story too.
Yeah, yeah, have this.

1681
02:15:35.560 --> 02:15:41.439
So you were involved in the landmark
case that pushed through the legislation that you

1682
02:15:41.479 --> 02:15:45.640
helped to write, and now you
had somebody who decided that they would they

1683
02:15:45.640 --> 02:15:50.159
felt lucky, so they were against
this law even though and you got that

1684
02:15:50.159 --> 02:15:52.319
shed down. Tell us about that
particular case. That's the details of that.

1685
02:15:54.119 --> 02:15:56.479
Sure, that one much more recent. In fact, it's really still

1686
02:15:56.520 --> 02:16:01.479
pending over a couple of straight of
issues. But this is one where two

1687
02:16:01.560 --> 02:16:07.960
homeowners in Indianapolis. We're asleep in
bed at three o'clock in the morning.

1688
02:16:07.199 --> 02:16:11.279
The dog starts barking. They realize
someone's pounding on the front door. They

1689
02:16:11.439 --> 02:16:16.239
ran out and the man did and
someone is kicking on their front door.

1690
02:16:16.680 --> 02:16:20.640
Then he's putting the full force of
his weight and his shoulder into the door,

1691
02:16:20.760 --> 02:16:24.600
trying to break the door down.
He's screaming, let me in.

1692
02:16:24.800 --> 02:16:28.439
Let me in. The homeowner yells, I don't know you go away,

1693
02:16:28.520 --> 02:16:33.719
and the guy outside is cussing a
lot and doesn't make a lot of sense,

1694
02:16:33.879 --> 02:16:37.719
but he runs around to the back
of the house tries to get in

1695
02:16:37.799 --> 02:16:41.639
the back door. It's locked,
thankfully, but then he breaks the window

1696
02:16:43.040 --> 02:16:46.920
in the next to the back door
in a parent attempt to reach in and

1697
02:16:46.000 --> 02:16:50.959
unlock the door. And the homeowner
at this point has retrieved his handgun and

1698
02:16:50.000 --> 02:16:54.600
he said, listen, go away, I have a gun, and the

1699
02:16:54.680 --> 02:16:58.559
guy that responded by saying, well, then you're going to have to shoot

1700
02:16:58.600 --> 02:17:01.719
me. Word I won't used it
starts with a B. You know you're

1701
02:17:01.760 --> 02:17:07.200
gonna have to shoot me, And
at which point he tried to gain entry,

1702
02:17:07.280 --> 02:17:09.600
and the homeowner, having no alternative, shot him. And exactly the

1703
02:17:09.639 --> 02:17:13.040
same thing in the sense that the
prosecutor's office looked at it. The police

1704
02:17:13.079 --> 02:17:18.719
investigated, all the physical evidence matched
up with what the story the both he

1705
02:17:18.840 --> 02:17:22.920
told and his wife told. It
was a clear case of castle doctrine,

1706
02:17:22.959 --> 02:17:26.479
where you can defend your home,
including with deadly force the way our laws

1707
02:17:26.520 --> 02:17:33.319
written in Indiana against an unlawful entry
and even to prevent an unlawful entry you

1708
02:17:33.319 --> 02:17:37.079
don't have to don't have to be
in your house. If they're trying to

1709
02:17:37.079 --> 02:17:39.760
get in your house, you can
prevent that unlawful entry, including with deadly

1710
02:17:39.799 --> 02:17:43.520
force. And that's the way the
law's written, this way it should be

1711
02:17:43.559 --> 02:17:48.479
written, and we included in our
immunity statue we defined as a forcible felony

1712
02:17:50.719 --> 02:17:54.200
someone trying to break into your home
in violation of the castle doctrine committee a

1713
02:17:54.200 --> 02:17:58.600
crime. A lot of states call
it breaking an entry, breaking and entering.

1714
02:17:58.600 --> 02:18:01.799
In Indiana we call it residential entry. But anyway, we said,

1715
02:18:01.840 --> 02:18:05.040
if you're trying to commit residential entry, that's a forcible felony. And in

1716
02:18:05.120 --> 02:18:09.760
Indiana, stopping someone from committing a
forcible felonies also justified in terms of the

1717
02:18:09.799 --> 02:18:16.799
use of deadly forced So again no
prosecution. And we raised this new immunity.

1718
02:18:16.959 --> 02:18:20.559
I put it in my answer to
the planeiff's complaint and said you can't

1719
02:18:20.559 --> 02:18:22.840
file this lawsuit. We have immunity
for this, and there's going to be

1720
02:18:22.879 --> 02:18:26.799
an attorney's fees award. They said, damn the torpedoes. No, no,

1721
02:18:26.920 --> 02:18:30.639
we think we can defeat it.
We think we have evidence that wasn't

1722
02:18:30.680 --> 02:18:33.719
justified. And just a couple of
weeks ago, we went in and had

1723
02:18:33.719 --> 02:18:39.440
a hearing, hearing Marion County,
which is Indianapolis, and just a matter

1724
02:18:39.479 --> 02:18:41.399
of days ago got the judge's opinion
where he said, Nope, the law

1725
02:18:41.479 --> 02:18:46.920
is clear. There's immunity under this
situation. The presumption that arises from the

1726
02:18:46.000 --> 02:18:50.719
lack of criminal prosecution could be used
to get a case dismissed when the plantiff

1727
02:18:50.760 --> 02:18:56.079
has no affirmative evidence to rebut the
presumption that the use of force was justified.

1728
02:18:56.600 --> 02:18:58.559
And here they had no a had
speculation. They said, well,

1729
02:18:58.680 --> 02:19:01.360
he was just asking to come in. He wasn't trying to break in.

1730
02:19:01.440 --> 02:19:03.840
Really, what about the broken window? I mean, it was really kind

1731
02:19:03.840 --> 02:19:07.159
of silly. But judge, judge, and I give judges a lot of

1732
02:19:07.159 --> 02:19:11.360
credit because judges don't like to dismiss
cases early. If you look at when

1733
02:19:11.399 --> 02:19:16.479
judges get reversed on appeal U grant, you know, dismissing cases early is

1734
02:19:16.600 --> 02:19:20.520
fertile ground for getting that reverse.
Not here because it's very very clear cut,

1735
02:19:22.000 --> 02:19:26.280
but generally speaking, judges are reluctant
to grant summary judgment or motions to

1736
02:19:26.319 --> 02:19:31.319
dismiss, and this judge had the
had the fortitude to do just that.

1737
02:19:31.559 --> 02:19:35.239
And said the laws also clear that
the plantiffs have to pay the defendants back

1738
02:19:35.239 --> 02:19:39.840
their attorneys fees, and so asked
me to submit my final statement on my

1739
02:19:39.000 --> 02:19:43.440
fee, which the courtal review,
and then they're going to award attorney's fees.

1740
02:19:43.479 --> 02:19:48.319
So my client doesn't have to worry
about paying me any money because they're

1741
02:19:48.319 --> 02:19:50.879
going to get that paid from the
planet. Uh. And you deserve it.

1742
02:19:52.159 --> 02:19:54.920
You've done a great job. You
defended that other person. You got

1743
02:19:54.440 --> 02:20:00.840
a law run through there, and
that law has held up now and that's,

1744
02:20:01.159 --> 02:20:03.360
you know, for a second time, you defended some of course you

1745
02:20:03.399 --> 02:20:07.159
said you defended a lot of people
like that, but that's exactly what we

1746
02:20:07.200 --> 02:20:11.200
should see with that. Let me
and of course I didn't mention the beginning

1747
02:20:11.200 --> 02:20:13.399
of the program. You've also got
a radio program. Besides being ANRA instructor

1748
02:20:13.440 --> 02:20:18.280
and besides having a law firm that
specialized in the Second Amendment, Guy Relford

1749
02:20:18.479 --> 02:20:20.399
R E. L F O R
D. If you want to find him

1750
02:20:20.399 --> 02:20:26.319
on Facebook if you need his help, But you also have a radio program,

1751
02:20:26.600 --> 02:20:30.600
The Gun Guy. I love the
title that. Yeah, yeah,

1752
02:20:30.680 --> 02:20:33.120
yeah, again the radio station likes
making use of my odd name, but

1753
02:20:33.440 --> 02:20:37.719
yeah, but yeah, it's just
a weekly show, David. It's just

1754
02:20:37.799 --> 02:20:43.040
on Saturdays in Indianapolis, but they
also put it out there as a as

1755
02:20:43.079 --> 02:20:48.959
a podcast as well, so a
lot of people who can't listen in live

1756
02:20:48.000 --> 02:20:52.159
from five to seven in central Indiana. We reach I think fifty two counties,

1757
02:20:52.159 --> 02:20:58.159
so it's a it's a good sized
radio station. But people who can't

1758
02:20:58.159 --> 02:21:01.520
listen in can go to WIBC com
and find the podcast as well. And

1759
02:21:01.799 --> 02:21:05.840
we just talked about Second Amendment issues. And it's it's kind of fun because

1760
02:21:05.840 --> 02:21:07.399
it's a call in show for the
whole two hours. Yeah, I'm on

1761
02:21:07.440 --> 02:21:11.280
the air, and that's my favorite. My actually, my very favorite is

1762
02:21:11.280 --> 02:21:16.280
when people call in and want to
argue with me because I do this for

1763
02:21:16.319 --> 02:21:20.879
a living, right, But but
it's it's a lot of fun. And

1764
02:21:20.120 --> 02:21:24.639
but you know, people call in
with everything under the sun, from legal

1765
02:21:24.719 --> 02:21:28.399
questions. I don't give legal advice
on the radio, but I can explain

1766
02:21:28.440 --> 02:21:33.000
what the laws say, and to
technical questions, gun questions, you know,

1767
02:21:33.079 --> 02:21:35.440
I mean, how do I fix
this problem with my trigger? On

1768
02:21:35.760 --> 02:21:37.639
AR fifteen. I'm just it's really
interesting. I never know what I'm going

1769
02:21:37.719 --> 02:21:41.600
to get, which really makes it
it's fun for me to do. Of

1770
02:21:41.600 --> 02:21:45.120
course, I always have somewhat of
an agenda in terms of what I want

1771
02:21:45.159 --> 02:21:48.959
to get into, but the listeners
often take us in different directions based on

1772
02:21:48.000 --> 02:21:50.000
the calls we get, which make
it makes it a lot of fun.

1773
02:21:50.200 --> 02:21:54.399
I bet it's fun, especially when
somebody calls in they want argument that when

1774
02:21:54.440 --> 02:21:56.799
you said where, you said that
that made me think of the old Monty

1775
02:21:56.840 --> 02:22:01.319
Python skit. You know where,
because you want an argument starts arguing about

1776
02:22:01.360 --> 02:22:03.680
whether he's going to do an argument
with him or not. But you've got

1777
02:22:03.760 --> 02:22:07.280
more substantial arguments to talk about.
Let me ask you this, because we've

1778
02:22:07.280 --> 02:22:09.760
had some interesting things. As you
point out, it brings up a lot

1779
02:22:09.760 --> 02:22:16.479
of different interesting points of law,
and we've had an interesting back and forth.

1780
02:22:16.559 --> 02:22:22.000
I talked about last week about the
fact that Trump went to South Carolina

1781
02:22:22.559 --> 02:22:26.680
and they had a commemorative gun that
had his face on the handle, and

1782
02:22:26.719 --> 02:22:28.600
it's like, oh, yeah,
I got to get one of these and

1783
02:22:28.600 --> 02:22:31.040
everything, and then his assistant said, yeah, he bought it. And

1784
02:22:31.079 --> 02:22:33.479
then he had all these people say, wait a minute, he's indicted for

1785
02:22:33.520 --> 02:22:37.600
a fella. He can't buy a
gun, which is very similar. As

1786
02:22:37.639 --> 02:22:41.920
Reason pointed out, it was exactly
the same type of thing that they're coming

1787
02:22:41.959 --> 02:22:43.600
after Hunter Biden. You know,
they're saying, well, you know,

1788
02:22:43.639 --> 02:22:48.319
you're not allowed to buy a gun
if you're a drug addict or drug user

1789
02:22:48.399 --> 02:22:50.760
or whatever. You know, both
of these things are non violent issues.

1790
02:22:50.799 --> 02:22:54.479
You know, Trump hasn't been convicted
of anything. He's just been indicted for

1791
02:22:54.600 --> 02:23:01.000
something, indicted for something that is
not a violent crime even and so you

1792
02:23:01.040 --> 02:23:01.680
know, they were looking at this
and they said, you know, we

1793
02:23:01.760 --> 02:23:05.239
need to look at these laws and
not be so colored. You know,

1794
02:23:05.239 --> 02:23:09.799
you've got people who were cheering the
fact that maybe we got another thing on

1795
02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:11.440
Trump here, or other people saying, yeah, let's get Biden on this

1796
02:23:11.479 --> 02:23:16.559
thing. But you know, maybe
the law itself is a thing that needs

1797
02:23:16.559 --> 02:23:18.840
to be changed as to whether or
not the ATF has it. And then

1798
02:23:18.879 --> 02:23:24.719
I saw another issue where they said, it looks like a Hunter may wind

1799
02:23:24.799 --> 02:23:30.280
up trying to use Bruin and that
decision to say, you know, this

1800
02:23:30.360 --> 02:23:33.840
is an unusual restriction that's been put
here that is not doesn't really have doesn't

1801
02:23:33.840 --> 02:23:37.639
fit in the historical context of what
was meant by the Second Amendment. And

1802
02:23:37.680 --> 02:23:41.879
so according to Bruin, maybe you
know, he gets off. He still

1803
02:23:41.879 --> 02:23:46.879
has an issue I would imagine of
lying on a form. But nevertheless,

1804
02:23:46.120 --> 02:23:50.159
you know, what do you make
of that of those two juxtaposition. I

1805
02:23:50.159 --> 02:23:52.840
oh, it's an interesting juxtaposition of
those two that you might have actually the

1806
02:23:52.959 --> 02:24:01.719
Biden family supporting the Second Amendment and
some freedoms involved there an intentional war and

1807
02:24:01.760 --> 02:24:07.120
litigation maker strange bedfellows. And but
yeah, I mean, if anybody would

1808
02:24:07.120 --> 02:24:09.280
have ever asked me I would support
a legal argument that Hunter Biden was making,

1809
02:24:09.479 --> 02:24:16.200
I would have doubted it. But
but here your wise, and you're

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dead on David to focus on the
Brewin decision, because both in the Trump

1811
02:24:20.319 --> 02:24:24.719
scenario and the Hunter Biden scenario,
that that's exactly where they're going. In

1812
02:24:24.719 --> 02:24:31.399
fact, the exact law that you
mentioned relative to Hunter Biden was recently found

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02:24:31.399 --> 02:24:35.319
to be unconstitutional. This is it
a district court case in Texas, so

1814
02:24:35.360 --> 02:24:39.159
it has no direct bearing on his
case. But I can see that it

1815
02:24:41.159 --> 02:24:45.280
really snowballing because you know, as
you said, and as you know,

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you know, Bruin says, look, we look at text, history and

1817
02:24:46.639 --> 02:24:52.559
tradition, and we look at the
text the Second Amendment. Does this law

1818
02:24:52.639 --> 02:24:56.200
implicate a protected writer not? If
it does, then we say, all

1819
02:24:56.280 --> 02:25:01.479
right, does the long history and
tradition of the regulation of this right support

1820
02:25:01.760 --> 02:25:05.280
this particular limitation in the sense that
it's been upheld and it's been found to

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02:25:05.280 --> 02:25:09.879
be legal and allowable under the Second
Amendment historically and traditionally in this country.

1822
02:25:11.000 --> 02:25:13.360
And that's going back to the founding. That's not since the Brady Bill in

1823
02:25:13.440 --> 02:25:18.840
nineteen ninety four. I mean,
that's all very very recent stuff. It's

1824
02:25:18.879 --> 02:25:20.719
all, you know, going back
to the founding and even to some degree

1825
02:25:20.719 --> 02:25:26.159
looking at English law that US law
is based on, and in this case

1826
02:25:26.200 --> 02:25:28.920
that found the law that says,
if you're a user of or addicted to

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02:25:28.959 --> 02:25:35.159
in the illegal drugs, you can't
possess a firearm and make it a felony

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02:25:35.200 --> 02:25:37.360
to do so. This court in
Texans looked at that and said, hold

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02:25:37.399 --> 02:25:43.239
on, we can find historical restrictions
on saying someone can't possess a firearm if

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02:25:43.239 --> 02:25:48.120
they're currently intoxicated or you know,
inebriated, impaired, but we don't see

1831
02:25:48.120 --> 02:25:52.520
anywhere just the occasional user and important
distinction. That was a case where this

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02:25:52.559 --> 02:25:58.200
guy was an occasional marijuana user and
he admitted to authorities he yeah, he

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02:25:58.239 --> 02:26:01.200
said, you know, I'm a
recreational marijuana user. I said, Oh

1834
02:26:01.200 --> 02:26:05.159
well, and marijuana is still illegal
at the federal level through the Controlled Substances

1835
02:26:05.200 --> 02:26:09.440
Act in nineteen seventy, so therefore
it's illegal under federal law. Therefore,

1836
02:26:09.479 --> 02:26:13.239
you've admitted you're a user of or
addicted to an illegal drug. Therefore you're

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02:26:13.239 --> 02:26:16.360
going to prison for ten years or
at least a maximum. And that's what

1838
02:26:16.399 --> 02:26:22.159
they found to be unconstitutional under the
Brewin analysis. But the very similar thing,

1839
02:26:22.360 --> 02:26:26.600
and in fact, Amy Cony Barrett
now on the Supreme Court wrote an

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02:26:26.639 --> 02:26:28.440
opinion that said just this. It
was a descent, but it was at

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02:26:28.440 --> 02:26:35.920
the Seventh Circuit. They said laws
saying even people convicted of nonviolent felonies should

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02:26:37.000 --> 02:26:39.479
not lose their rights. And the
law that says that if you have any

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02:26:39.520 --> 02:26:43.719
felony conviction, even a non violent
one, I mean you could have a

1844
02:26:45.680 --> 02:26:50.440
get a you know, an accounting
conviction based on tax fraud or something,

1845
02:26:50.719 --> 02:26:56.399
and suddenly you're being likened to a
violent criminal. We can't trust with a

1846
02:26:56.440 --> 02:27:01.159
firearm. And Amy Cody Barrett wrote
an opinion before ruined, obviously that said

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this is unconstitutional. There's no history
and tradition of limiting nonviolent people just because

1848
02:27:07.559 --> 02:27:11.040
of a criminal conviction, and then
compound that and say, well, here

1849
02:27:11.079 --> 02:27:13.840
Trump hasn't even been convicted of a
non violent felony. He's only been indicted.

1850
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Yeah, So the law that says
if you're just under an indictment for

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a felony, even a non violent
felony. So to say that's unconstitutional under

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02:27:22.280 --> 02:27:26.079
a Bruin analysis is not a stretch
because we're seeing we were seeing these different

1853
02:27:26.159 --> 02:27:28.360
laws, a lot of these very
recent laws, a lot of them part

1854
02:27:28.360 --> 02:27:31.200
of the Brady Bill, some of
them part of the Gun Control Act in

1855
02:27:31.239 --> 02:27:35.760
nineteen sixty eight. But a lot
of these are following one after the other.

1856
02:27:35.040 --> 02:27:41.239
And I'm somewhat expecting the pendulum to
swing back because, for instance,

1857
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there's a there's a case in front
of the Supreme Court right now that involves

1858
02:27:48.000 --> 02:27:52.520
the law that says if you are
under a domestic violence order of protection,

1859
02:27:52.920 --> 02:27:56.159
you can't possess a firearm, and
that that doesn't mean you've been convicted of

1860
02:27:56.159 --> 02:27:58.879
a cron That doesn't mean you you
know, you've been, it's been pre

1861
02:28:00.479 --> 02:28:05.079
that you are, you know,
a violent person based on your criminal history.

1862
02:28:05.760 --> 02:28:07.479
Is just a judge found enough of
a threat to say you ought to

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be under this domestic violence order protection. The Fifth Circuit again, another case

1864
02:28:11.799 --> 02:28:16.399
coming out of Texas found that law
to be unconstitutional, to say, wait

1865
02:28:16.399 --> 02:28:20.520
a minute, there's no criminal conviction
here, there's a there's a potential threat,

1866
02:28:20.600 --> 02:28:22.639
but we don't take people's constitutional rights
away on that basis, at least

1867
02:28:22.719 --> 02:28:28.079
not historically and traditionally under the Bruin
analysis that is in front of the Supreme

1868
02:28:28.120 --> 02:28:33.840
Court right now. And and and
it doesn't feel very good, I will

1869
02:28:33.879 --> 02:28:37.239
tell you, because the guys think
they might take the gun into the due

1870
02:28:37.280 --> 02:28:43.280
process later, as Trump said,
But this one had had been in multiple

1871
02:28:43.319 --> 02:28:50.159
domestic violence. This particular litigant had
been under mutual domestic violence order protection involving

1872
02:28:50.280 --> 02:28:56.719
multiple women. And and and he
does appear to have somewhat of a criminal

1873
02:28:56.799 --> 02:29:00.559
history. Now there's a reason that
blindfold is on, lady judge right.

1874
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And the judges aren't supposed to look
at the facts of any individual case and

1875
02:29:05.280 --> 02:29:09.479
be influenced by that. They're supposed
to do a strict legal analysis under the

1876
02:29:09.520 --> 02:29:13.440
concept that justice is blind. But
I think anybody who wouldn't think that these

1877
02:29:13.479 --> 02:29:20.559
particular facts wouldn't leave the Supreme Court
to go well, maybe we had to

1878
02:29:20.120 --> 02:29:22.959
roll this back just a bit.
I think it's probably being a little naive

1879
02:29:24.079 --> 02:29:28.600
because there's no old saying among lawyers
that bad facts make for bad law,

1880
02:29:28.399 --> 02:29:31.559
and these facts are not great.
It's not the case I would have wanted

1881
02:29:31.600 --> 02:29:37.079
to have taken up on that issue. But anyway, based on the analysis

1882
02:29:37.200 --> 02:29:41.559
is out there right now and based
on Bruin as it exists, these laws.

1883
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You know the fact that a eighteen
to twenty year old can't buy a

1884
02:29:43.159 --> 02:29:48.840
handgun in a gun store under federal
law. What's the history and tradition of

1885
02:29:50.120 --> 02:29:54.079
having to be twenty one to be
armed in this country when if you've joined

1886
02:29:54.120 --> 02:30:00.280
the militia quote unquote in seventeen ninety
one, at seventeen or sixteen. So

1887
02:30:01.680 --> 02:30:03.360
there's there's a lot to talk about
for a lot of these laws where we

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get drafted in modern America at eighteen
and sent to Vietnam. Right, but

1889
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you can't buy a gun, and
you know, that's the kind of stuff

1890
02:30:09.799 --> 02:30:13.760
that you know, we see,
and of course you know that was even

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02:30:13.840 --> 02:30:15.399
you know when I mentioned, you
know, take the gun and do the

1892
02:30:15.440 --> 02:30:18.159
due process later with the red flag
stuff and everything at that same meeting,

1893
02:30:18.200 --> 02:30:22.440
you know, Trump was pushing the
idea of let's raise the age that people

1894
02:30:22.479 --> 02:30:26.559
can buy guns. It's kind of
interesting because this whole Brewin thing, I

1895
02:30:26.559 --> 02:30:30.319
think it's going to you know,
hit a lot of these different issues again,

1896
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you know, like the bump stock
for example. You know, what's

1897
02:30:31.920 --> 02:30:37.479
Brewing going to do to the bump
stock. We've seen a surprising number of

1898
02:30:37.760 --> 02:30:41.520
losses in terms of the challenges against
the bump stock. And to me,

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02:30:41.639 --> 02:30:46.399
that was a very, very big
precedent because it established the fact that not

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02:30:46.440 --> 02:30:52.079
only could they infringe against our constitutional
you know, protections of a god given

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02:30:52.200 --> 02:30:56.000
right, but they could also it
could be done not just by the legislature,

1902
02:30:56.040 --> 02:31:00.719
but it could be done by the
bureaucracy or by a president that's running

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02:31:00.719 --> 02:31:03.079
the bureaucracy. And now we've seen
you know, Biden exercising that as well.

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And so when you go back here, look at the bump stock thing,

1905
02:31:05.920 --> 02:31:07.479
we got this I think it's a
Fifth Circuit talked about it just last

1906
02:31:07.479 --> 02:31:11.200
couple of days. Yeah, the
Fifth Circuit court where you got i know,

1907
02:31:11.319 --> 02:31:16.120
a Michael Carrgill back at that Central
Texas Gun Works who's running that through.

1908
02:31:16.159 --> 02:31:18.360
He's had a victory there, but
there's been losses on the other side

1909
02:31:18.360 --> 02:31:22.000
of this with a lot of other
courts. What do you think is going

1910
02:31:22.040 --> 02:31:24.040
to happen with that bump stock because
that is a big precedent. You know,

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we've never had regulation of attachments and
things like that before, especially by

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executive order. Yeah, it's such
an important point, David. I'm glad

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you raised it because I said when
it happened, you know Trump, you

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remember the news conference he said,
well, bump stocks are gone, right,

1915
02:31:41.840 --> 02:31:45.799
Tady's responding to the horrific shooting in
Las Vegas, and he said that,

1916
02:31:45.840 --> 02:31:46.559
well, he said, I can
do that. I don't need to

1917
02:31:46.559 --> 02:31:50.159
have any Guys. It's like,
well, that's exactly that's exactly right.

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And and so many people on on
you know, our side of the Second

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02:31:54.920 --> 02:31:58.440
Amendment debate said well, you know
what, if we give them bump stocks,

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then maybe they won't come after so
called assault weapons SI automatic rifles,

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02:32:03.360 --> 02:32:07.120
and so nobody really cares about bump
stocks anyway. So uh, you know,

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and even the NRA came out and
I strongly disagreed with the NRA on

1923
02:32:11.600 --> 02:32:15.079
this, and I said, this
publicly huge mistake. NRA came out and

1924
02:32:15.079 --> 02:32:18.719
said, we invite the ATF to
re examine the legality of bump stocks.

1925
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And I'm saying, I'm sorry,
you're inviting the ATF to rewrite laws written

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02:32:22.879 --> 02:32:28.000
by Congress and and and simply because
the president tells them to do so doesn't

1927
02:32:28.000 --> 02:32:31.120
make it legal or constitutional. It's
a it's a it's an inappropriate use of

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02:32:31.120 --> 02:32:35.479
the legislative power by an executive agency. And that's what we need to reel

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02:32:35.559 --> 02:32:37.280
back in this country. But but
when Trump did it and people say,

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well, guy, do you really
care about bumpstocks? I go, Now,

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bumpstocks are stupid. If you come
to my range where I'm teaching a

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class and you get a bumpstock on
your rifle, I'm gonna make fun of

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you, even you know, before
the band, because you're trading. You're

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02:32:48.680 --> 02:32:52.639
trading accuracy for rate of fire,
which is typically stupid. So at any

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rate, I didn't care about bumpstock. Bumpstocks are dumb. I would never

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02:32:54.799 --> 02:32:58.959
own one. But the precedent,
and that's why the point you made is

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02:32:58.000 --> 02:33:01.200
the important one. The precedent he
made by saying I'm going to snap my

1938
02:33:01.200 --> 02:33:03.399
finger. Well, what did Obama
say? I got a phone and a

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02:33:03.440 --> 02:33:07.280
pen? Yeah, Well, he
never much delivered on that, but President

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02:33:07.280 --> 02:33:11.440
Trump did and then and then,
now, what do you see in ATF

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02:33:11.600 --> 02:33:16.479
on so called ghost guns, atf
on what they're calling forced reset triggers,

1942
02:33:18.120 --> 02:33:20.639
ATF on short barreled rifles, where
they're saying, oh, well, we

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02:33:20.719 --> 02:33:24.879
told you ten years ago that if
you put a brace on your pistol,

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02:33:24.920 --> 02:33:26.840
it doesn't make it a rifle.
But we changed our mind. So now

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02:33:26.840 --> 02:33:33.000
we're going to rewrite a definition of
short barreled rifle as written by Congress and

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02:33:33.159 --> 02:33:37.079
all that's based on the bumpstock precedent. And now I think we have a

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02:33:37.120 --> 02:33:41.040
great shot at destroying a lot of
these, not only under the Bruin analysis,

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but because they are in fact unconstitutional
in the fact that their legislative authority

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02:33:46.440 --> 02:33:52.239
being exercised by the executive branch.
And we even had an important decision that

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02:33:52.280 --> 02:33:54.879
had nothing to do with guns at
the Second Amendment came out of Supreme Court

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02:33:54.920 --> 02:33:58.040
here a couple of years ago.
It was a West Virginia and it was

1952
02:33:58.079 --> 02:34:01.719
an ep A regulation case. I
think it was a clean water or clean

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02:34:01.760 --> 02:34:05.399
air case. I don't remember now, but they said hold on, you

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02:34:05.399 --> 02:34:07.159
know, the EPA just going out
there and making up its own rules without

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02:34:07.200 --> 02:34:13.520
an express delegation of authority from Congress
does doesn't fly anymore. And we're reeling

1956
02:34:13.559 --> 02:34:18.040
back on that fourth branch of government
that's become so danger in this country,

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02:34:18.319 --> 02:34:20.920
so dangerous in this country that our
founders never intended for, you know,

1958
02:34:20.959 --> 02:34:24.520
for the I R S and the
at F and all these executive agencies to

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02:34:24.559 --> 02:34:28.079
be able to have the power they
do, and a bunch of armed agents

1960
02:34:28.079 --> 02:34:33.799
turning around putting people in prison.
That's not what we ever envisioned from in

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02:34:33.879 --> 02:34:41.079
terms of enforcing rules that they've written
and that they've created without Congress. That's

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what was never intended by our founders. And so hopefully we get that reeled

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02:34:45.200 --> 02:34:46.879
back, and ATF is fertile ground
for that right now, for all the

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reasons you mentioned, Yeah, that
really it just I couldn't believe when that

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happened, because I've talked for the
longest time about the power of the gureacracy

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02:34:56.239 --> 02:34:58.879
of the regulatory state. I said, you know, we had this,

1967
02:35:00.200 --> 02:35:05.879
the slogan for the for seventeen seventy
six was no taxation without representation. Well

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02:35:05.879 --> 02:35:09.479
we have now taxation without representation because
these people can find us. But we

1969
02:35:09.479 --> 02:35:13.639
also have regulation without representation. And
what's even worse is they say, well,

1970
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because this is a rule and not
a law, you don't get due

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02:35:16.319 --> 02:35:20.360
process, you're going to get the
presumption of innocence, and you don't get

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protection against excessive fines. And so
we've seen this metastasize. You know,

1973
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originally I think it was the IRS
that was doing it predominantly, but now

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02:35:26.440 --> 02:35:30.840
it's metastasized all these different agencies,
and so now they're going to just do

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gun control by doing that as well, that's a really, really dangerous thing.

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And it was. It was not
just the bump stock, it was

1977
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also the pistol brace under Trump,
and that got put in in twenty nineteen.

1978
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Then they pulled it out in December
of twenty twenty, but then Biden

1979
02:35:46.399 --> 02:35:48.280
puts it back in La La Harris
when she's running, said yeah, I'm

1980
02:35:48.280 --> 02:35:52.200
going to give Congress on hundred days
to do all the gun control stuff I

1981
02:35:52.280 --> 02:35:54.639
want if you elect me as president, and then I'll just do it by

1982
02:35:54.639 --> 02:35:58.600
executive order. If they don't do
it at that point. It really is

1983
02:35:58.760 --> 02:36:01.040
a horrific thing, and it is
a much bigger problem than even just a

1984
02:36:01.079 --> 02:36:05.719
second amendment. To try to get
this regulatory state under control. So it'd

1985
02:36:05.719 --> 02:36:09.280
be interesting to see what happens with
the Supreme Court decisions on this. And

1986
02:36:09.319 --> 02:36:13.959
again, I think the bump stock
issue is such an important thing, even

1987
02:36:13.959 --> 02:36:16.479
though the bump stock itself, as
you point out, this total piece of

1988
02:36:16.479 --> 02:36:20.520
garbage. You know, everybody says
it's based of garbage, but it's an

1989
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important principle and that's the key thing. The principle is so important even if

1990
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the item isn't so well. It's
always great talking to you guy. And

1991
02:36:28.200 --> 02:36:33.360
again people can find a gun guy, and they can find that at what's

1992
02:36:33.600 --> 02:36:35.920
the call letters for the radio station? Again, where they can find that

1993
02:36:35.959 --> 02:36:41.200
poost WIBC. Yeah, you can
find me at WABC dot com or my

1994
02:36:41.319 --> 02:36:43.799
Twitter or x I guess we're calling
it now is just at Guy Ralford.

1995
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Great, great, Thank you very
much, guy. Always a pleasure to

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talk to you and thank you for
what you've done. And that's a great

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02:36:50.280 --> 02:36:54.719
example that you got there and other
states do need to implement that. That

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is an important law to protect people
who are doing what they can to protect

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themselves and protect they are innocent people. At the same time, thank you

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so much. Thank you, David. Always an honor. Thank you.

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We're gonna take a quick break,
folks, and we'll be right back.

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The seed in our hold, my
boys, man that go where all can

2003
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see me and with our devotion.
Boys call it the Liberty Tree. It's

2004
02:37:15.680 --> 02:37:20.319
a tall old tree and the strong
old tree. And we are the sons,

2005
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Yes, we are the sons,
the sons of liberty. M liberty.

2006
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It's your move. You're listening to
the David Knight show. Well,

2007
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we had a disturbing thing and it
happened yesterday in the UK. And always

2008
02:38:24.840 --> 02:38:31.760
a lot of disturbing things happening.
They're the fantasticizing Orwellian state. Lawrence Fox,

2009
02:38:31.920 --> 02:38:37.079
who is a was an actor until
he spoke out about his politics and

2010
02:38:37.120 --> 02:38:39.600
he got banned, but of course
he still is a very good actor.

2011
02:38:41.159 --> 02:38:45.760
He was in the played Hunter Biden
of all Things and My Son Hunter that

2012
02:38:45.840 --> 02:38:52.719
was done by fellow mclere. And
he is run for Mayor of London against

2013
02:38:52.879 --> 02:38:58.879
Sadik Khan. He has been involved
in the creation of a political party to

2014
02:38:58.079 --> 02:39:05.559
try to undo this globalist attack on
our society and our liberties, called Reclaim.

2015
02:39:05.239 --> 02:39:11.719
But he was arrested yesterday for things
that he had to say and I

2016
02:39:11.719 --> 02:39:16.639
thought it was kind of an This
is an interesting case because they have charged

2017
02:39:16.719 --> 02:39:22.000
him with conspiracy, not with hate
speech or something. He's been arrested on

2018
02:39:22.000 --> 02:39:28.719
suspicion of conspiring to commit criminal damage
to these despicable ultral o emission zone cameras.

2019
02:39:30.319 --> 02:39:33.120
And we've seen the videos of the
people out there, you know,

2020
02:39:33.200 --> 02:39:39.639
wearing masks and hiding their identity and
cutting these things down, and I sympathize

2021
02:39:39.639 --> 02:39:45.680
with them. Actually I'll say that
I applaud them, but I'm not engaging

2022
02:39:45.920 --> 02:39:50.600
in any of this conduct myself.
But he had declared his intention to participate

2023
02:39:50.639 --> 02:39:58.280
in that, openly defying these cameras, and so it was, you know,

2024
02:39:58.360 --> 02:40:01.719
this is a bit of activism that's
strictly speech. But let me show

2025
02:40:01.760 --> 02:40:05.760
you what happened. Here he is, as he's live streaming the police coming

2026
02:40:05.799 --> 02:40:11.360
into his home prior as part of
his arrest, doing a search of his

2027
02:40:11.479 --> 02:40:18.639
home. Morning guys in London's knife
ridden capital city where a fifteen year old

2028
02:40:18.639 --> 02:40:24.280
girl was stabbed to death with a
sword. We've got one two, show

2029
02:40:26.120 --> 02:40:33.479
one two, another three upstairs stealing
going through my house to intimidate me.

2030
02:40:35.239 --> 02:40:39.200
Because this is what the police are. They don't police with consent, anymore.

2031
02:40:39.399 --> 02:40:43.680
They police with fear and intimidation.
That is the stars the police force

2032
02:40:43.719 --> 02:40:46.520
that we've got nowadays. Instead of
being on the streets solving crimes ie the

2033
02:40:46.600 --> 02:40:50.280
murder of the poor fifteen year old
girl, they're on all over social media.

2034
02:40:50.520 --> 02:40:56.120
I take it the Uless scam.
Cameras outside of London are a complete

2035
02:40:56.879 --> 02:41:01.760
out of Uless done is a complete
scam. There's no scientific evidence. City

2036
02:41:01.879 --> 02:41:05.360
kind of rubbished the evidence and had
it rewritten to serve as needs. No

2037
02:41:05.479 --> 02:41:11.120
one vaited it. It's the beginning
and bringing in of a surveillance state.

2038
02:41:11.159 --> 02:41:15.920
And he's trying to make noises so
that I can't say that it's the beginning

2039
02:41:16.040 --> 02:41:20.239
of the surveillance state. And these
boys are the Starzi City stars. He

2040
02:41:20.799 --> 02:41:22.760
bless him so to have a lovely
day. I'm going to spend my day

2041
02:41:22.760 --> 02:41:26.319
in the clink in it. Yeah, And he's absolutely right about all that.

2042
02:41:26.360 --> 02:41:30.239
At the beginning of the you know, well, it's not the beginning,

2043
02:41:30.319 --> 02:41:35.280
but it's fantastasizing in the next level
of in your face surveillance state,

2044
02:41:35.399 --> 02:41:39.959
and these guys are acting as the
Starzi uh. And then but he had

2045
02:41:39.959 --> 02:41:43.319
also the reason that they were there. This this clip shows him talking a

2046
02:41:43.360 --> 02:41:48.959
little bit about them being there,
but also about what he said, which

2047
02:41:48.000 --> 02:41:56.520
is what they claim gives them their
rate to come there coming after what Look,

2048
02:41:56.559 --> 02:42:00.879
how many coppers there are in my
house coming to feel everything? Take

2049
02:42:00.920 --> 02:42:03.719
everything out of my ouse? La
ladies and gentlemen. Is the company that

2050
02:42:03.760 --> 02:42:07.840
we live in. The Only way
to deal with this be tearing down you

2051
02:42:07.920 --> 02:42:13.680
less cameras and to tear down every
single camera there is. And I will

2052
02:42:13.920 --> 02:42:16.879
I will be joining them to tear
down cameras as well, because I have

2053
02:42:18.000 --> 02:42:20.440
to. I'm one of those people
that puts my money where my mouth is,

2054
02:42:20.840 --> 02:42:26.959
so I'm pretty close with several and
I will be. Yeah, I'll

2055
02:42:26.959 --> 02:42:31.360
be out there with my angle grinder. I would encourage mass, mass removal

2056
02:42:31.399 --> 02:42:33.920
of the surveillance state, because once
it's there, you cannot remove it.

2057
02:42:35.200 --> 02:42:39.479
I would happy to be arrested myself, so you know I won't be.

2058
02:42:39.559 --> 02:42:41.040
I won't be when I go out
and take their cameras down, which I

2059
02:42:41.079 --> 02:42:43.920
will be doing, I won't be. I will be taking my phone with

2060
02:42:45.000 --> 02:42:48.719
me so they know exactly where I
am. I would happily sit there and

2061
02:42:48.719 --> 02:42:52.639
go sit in and go who voted
for this? What's your evidence for the

2062
02:42:52.639 --> 02:42:54.879
outer lon and clean air zone.
What's your evidence for that? Why are

2063
02:42:54.920 --> 02:42:56.879
you doing this? You know i'd
sit there and do it, but I

2064
02:42:56.959 --> 02:43:00.639
do that I've got, you know, several court cases go on his neck,

2065
02:43:01.040 --> 02:43:05.239
but yeah, I would. So
I think he knows what he's doing.

2066
02:43:05.440 --> 02:43:07.319
I think he is doing this knowing
that he's going to be arrested.

2067
02:43:07.360 --> 02:43:09.799
And this is the issue. You
know, we think about how do we

2068
02:43:11.840 --> 02:43:16.959
how do we approach these things?
There are certain things that are lines that

2069
02:43:16.040 --> 02:43:20.639
if you cross them, they will
arrest you. For example, you know,

2070
02:43:20.719 --> 02:43:24.319
we look at police dogs that are
out there and even if they set

2071
02:43:24.319 --> 02:43:28.479
the dogs on you, you entered
that dog, they they come after you

2072
02:43:28.559 --> 02:43:33.559
legally as if you had attacked a
police officer or something. And the same

2073
02:43:33.600 --> 02:43:37.559
thing is going to happen with these
robot police that are now being rolled out

2074
02:43:37.559 --> 02:43:41.799
in New York City and other places. You have these surveillance dialects. If

2075
02:43:41.799 --> 02:43:46.399
you want to call him that,
you know, the doctor who things is

2076
02:43:46.399 --> 02:43:52.319
what they look like. They don't
shout danger, danger warning Will Robinson like

2077
02:43:52.440 --> 02:43:56.319
the lost in spatialies. But you
know, if you don't like these things

2078
02:43:56.360 --> 02:44:00.000
and you kick them or vandalize them
or something that they'll probably come after you

2079
02:44:00.120 --> 02:44:03.920
as if you kick the police officer
and if you declare that you're going to

2080
02:44:03.959 --> 02:44:07.479
do that, and an open defiance
of it. And I think he knows

2081
02:44:07.520 --> 02:44:11.719
that he's not stupid. He knows
that, and he wants to challenge that

2082
02:44:11.040 --> 02:44:16.959
directly, and so hats off to
him, you know, to take that

2083
02:44:18.079 --> 02:44:22.520
on directly, to challenge this directly. I hope that they have a better

2084
02:44:22.600 --> 02:44:24.840
trial by jury system than we do
here in the UK in the US,

2085
02:44:24.879 --> 02:44:31.440
because again, the as we saw
from the Trump judge, well I can

2086
02:44:31.479 --> 02:44:35.559
do whatever I want. Well,
juries don't know what they're talking about.

2087
02:44:35.959 --> 02:44:39.440
And this is what we see from
judges as they've shut down trial by jury.

2088
02:44:39.159 --> 02:44:41.719
They lie to the jury's they say, well you don't. You're not

2089
02:44:41.760 --> 02:44:46.959
there to judge the facts of the
case or the law or how it's going

2090
02:44:46.959 --> 02:44:50.319
to be applied. You're not there
to judge whether or not the uless cameras

2091
02:44:50.360 --> 02:44:56.360
are correct. Your question is just
was he going to damage these things?

2092
02:44:56.479 --> 02:45:00.239
Was he conspiring to do it?
I'm talking to other people in that type

2093
02:45:00.239 --> 02:45:05.639
of thing. So if they're able
to pull that same kind of game that

2094
02:45:05.719 --> 02:45:09.319
they do here, he'll be courageous
but he'll be a martyr at the same

2095
02:45:09.360 --> 02:45:11.600
time. To do that. I
would like to see it establish a precedent

2096
02:45:11.600 --> 02:45:13.680
where jury says, yeah, that's
right, we don't like these things,

2097
02:45:13.680 --> 02:45:16.840
and we're going to let people off
if they want to tear him down.

2098
02:45:16.680 --> 02:45:20.360
But that is I'm not sure if
that's the world that we live in.

2099
02:45:20.159 --> 02:45:24.280
I'm not sure if that's the judicial
system that they're going to see there.

2100
02:45:24.680 --> 02:45:28.840
It's very much like what he's talking
about in terms of cutting the heads off

2101
02:45:28.879 --> 02:45:33.799
of these u LES surveillance cameras.
It reminds me of the beginning of Cool

2102
02:45:33.840 --> 02:45:39.040
Hand Luke or you see as the
credits are rolling at the beginning of the

2103
02:45:39.040 --> 02:45:46.200
film, you see a drunken Paul
Newman who is out there with a like

2104
02:45:46.239 --> 02:45:50.079
a pipe cutter and he's like staggering
around and he's cutting the heads off of

2105
02:45:50.079 --> 02:45:52.680
parking meters and everything. And he
gets arrested and they sent him to jail

2106
02:45:52.760 --> 02:45:58.280
for a considerable amount of time for
the property damage that he did. And

2107
02:45:58.639 --> 02:46:03.280
he gets that's there and you know, what are you here for? And

2108
02:46:03.559 --> 02:46:07.040
he says that cutting the heads off
parking meter sir, And he goes,

2109
02:46:07.079 --> 02:46:11.040
oh, what do you think that's
going to get you, He said,

2110
02:46:11.079 --> 02:46:13.120
I don't know, sir, what
it's going to get you a couple of

2111
02:46:13.159 --> 02:46:18.319
decades here in prison. And then
of course that key seen from the movie

2112
02:46:20.280 --> 02:46:26.360
where they are putting the handcuffs and
the chains on his ankles and his feet,

2113
02:46:26.799 --> 02:46:31.479
which is really what these uless cameras
are really about. They are hammering

2114
02:46:31.520 --> 02:46:37.319
them in and that's what's happening right
now as they're putting those cameras up,

2115
02:46:39.079 --> 02:46:45.120
as they're enacting these restrictions against us. It's the handcuffs and the manacles that

2116
02:46:45.159 --> 02:46:52.680
they're putting on us. Would you
never stop listening to them clinging, because

2117
02:46:52.719 --> 02:46:58.719
they're gonna remind you what I've been
saying. You don't go, I wish

2118
02:46:58.719 --> 02:47:07.159
you being so good to meet Cavin. Don't you ever talked that way to

2119
02:47:07.239 --> 02:47:26.840
me? Let up? What we've
got here is failure communic Some man you

2120
02:47:26.920 --> 02:47:33.639
just can't reach, that's right,
and some men you just can't beat into

2121
02:47:33.639 --> 02:47:37.879
submission. And I got an idea
that Lawrence Fox is one of those men

2122
02:47:37.920 --> 02:47:43.239
you can't beat into submission. Well, you have this case in Switzerland about

2123
02:47:43.239 --> 02:47:46.639
free speech. This is more typical
of what we see happening a Swiss writer

2124
02:47:46.760 --> 02:47:54.280
who called a journalist quote a fat
lesbian unquote was sentenced to sixty days in

2125
02:47:54.319 --> 02:48:00.319
prison, and the LGBT is plotting
that, and so is the main stream

2126
02:48:00.479 --> 02:48:07.040
media. And this woman is objectively
a lesbian. She makes that very clear.

2127
02:48:07.159 --> 02:48:11.479
She's an activist about that, so
there's no question about that. Of

2128
02:48:11.520 --> 02:48:16.479
course, fat is subjective and it's
meant as an insult. So we're not

2129
02:48:16.520 --> 02:48:22.559
allowed to insult somebody. And I
guess when you pull up one of the

2130
02:48:22.559 --> 02:48:26.079
pictures there are the NBC News AP
report from Information Liberation shows her picture,

2131
02:48:28.079 --> 02:48:33.000
I guess the truth is no defense
so at this, but again it's an

2132
02:48:33.000 --> 02:48:37.479
insult. You're not allowed to insult
people if they're politically connected or if their

2133
02:48:37.639 --> 02:48:45.479
causes are those of the government.
NBC News and the AP, as Information

2134
02:48:45.559 --> 02:48:50.000
Liberation points out, are praising this
jail sentence. This guy who said that

2135
02:48:50.079 --> 02:48:56.159
got sixty days in jail for calling
this woman a fat lesbian. But again,

2136
02:48:56.200 --> 02:48:58.719
you know, in this particular picture, she doesn't look like she's that

2137
02:48:58.760 --> 02:49:03.840
heavy. But again it's all subjective
and it fundamentally was an insult. So

2138
02:49:03.879 --> 02:49:09.079
he gets sixty days in jail for
insulting her. LGBT groups as NBC hailed

2139
02:49:09.680 --> 02:49:13.840
the sixty eight jail sentence of a
court in Switzerland gave to a writer and

2140
02:49:13.879 --> 02:49:18.520
a commentator for writing a journalist as
a fat lesbian, among many other critical

2141
02:49:18.559 --> 02:49:22.600
remarks. You know, we used
to have really harsh things said about people,

2142
02:49:22.639 --> 02:49:30.840
even during campaigns. People called Abraham
Lincoln a nutmeg addict, among other

2143
02:49:31.040 --> 02:49:33.319
things. They made fun of his
physical appearance, and resident was actually a

2144
02:49:33.360 --> 02:49:37.680
hatchet face. That's the son of
a nutmeg dealer. That's right, that's

2145
02:49:37.760 --> 02:49:41.399
right. Yeah, thank you for
correcting me on that. That's You're exactly

2146
02:49:41.520 --> 02:49:45.559
right, Travis, hatchet faced son
of a nutmeg dealer, because that was

2147
02:49:45.920 --> 02:49:50.200
essentially a kind of a drug at
the time. The AP goes on to

2148
02:49:50.239 --> 02:49:54.040
say, this court decision is an
important moment for justice and for rights of

2149
02:49:54.200 --> 02:50:01.200
LGBTQI people in Switzerland. The conviction
of Alain Sorel is a strong signal that

2150
02:50:01.280 --> 02:50:05.959
homophobic hatred cannot be tolerated in our
society. These are people who hate free

2151
02:50:05.959 --> 02:50:13.159
speech because again, your ability to
you should be able to say hateful things,

2152
02:50:13.200 --> 02:50:18.559
even if I don't agree with that
sentiment, even if I don't like

2153
02:50:18.639 --> 02:50:22.719
hearing hateful speech from people like Trump
or other people. He should be allowed

2154
02:50:22.760 --> 02:50:26.200
to say that, and it should
not be a crime. It is only

2155
02:50:26.239 --> 02:50:31.440
a crime if you hate speech.
I don't know the AP was chiming in

2156
02:50:31.479 --> 02:50:35.239
on this, and of course the
AP has been famous for quite some time

2157
02:50:35.440 --> 02:50:39.000
about having its own speech rules,
So I'm not really exactly sure what terms

2158
02:50:39.639 --> 02:50:43.879
the AP would like you to use
for a fat lesbian that would be acceptable

2159
02:50:43.920 --> 02:50:48.799
to them. On rock Fan,
Chris m thank you very much for the

2160
02:50:48.840 --> 02:50:50.399
tip, he says, thanks for
all you do, David. I'm a

2161
02:50:50.440 --> 02:50:54.159
longtime listener, and I've listened.
I've learned a lot from me. Well,

2162
02:50:54.159 --> 02:50:58.799
thank you. Two favorite things that
I've learned from you. Precedent Trump

2163
02:50:58.600 --> 02:51:03.760
is right. This simple title summarizes
Trump in just two words. I'm afraid

2164
02:51:03.799 --> 02:51:07.520
that's just correct. And the term
of guffin. I'd never heard of this

2165
02:51:07.600 --> 02:51:09.360
term before you introduced it to me. I liked the term so well that

2166
02:51:09.440 --> 02:51:13.239
I ordered a McGuff and T shirt
from your website today. Well, thank

2167
02:51:13.280 --> 02:51:16.040
you very much. I have one
here. I don't usually talk about merchandise,

2168
02:51:16.120 --> 02:51:20.639
but here is the mcguffin T shirt, and you can see that in

2169
02:51:20.719 --> 02:51:24.719
real real time. Here there we
go. And so thank you very much.

2170
02:51:24.840 --> 02:51:28.399
I appreciate that, and I'm proud
of that design. By the way,

2171
02:51:28.600 --> 02:51:33.719
I think for the love of the
road, for the Trump chew toy

2172
02:51:33.840 --> 02:51:37.120
that he sent to us and our
dogs really do like this as well.

2173
02:51:37.000 --> 02:51:43.200
She can see he's missing two legs
or one leg in an arm. And

2174
02:51:43.399 --> 02:51:46.959
it's been a rough time here for
Trump and in this the Night Household,

2175
02:51:48.000 --> 02:51:54.280
but we have on multiplications thrown him
to the dogs, both metaphorically and literally.

2176
02:51:54.680 --> 02:51:58.120
So it really was a surprise to
see that package where we opened for

2177
02:51:58.200 --> 02:52:01.719
the arm was like, what is
this this orange hair that was ticking up

2178
02:52:01.719 --> 02:52:05.000
there? But on Rock fan,
Chad Warren, thank you very much.

2179
02:52:05.079 --> 02:52:07.040
I'm glad I finally started watching David's
show after all this time. Well,

2180
02:52:07.079 --> 02:52:11.959
thank you, I appreciate that.
Before we run out of time here,

2181
02:52:11.959 --> 02:52:16.079
we've got about eight minutes left.
I wanted to talk about what's going on

2182
02:52:16.159 --> 02:52:20.719
with emmigration, and you may have
seen that at the top of the Drudge

2183
02:52:20.719 --> 02:52:26.200
Report last night. I think it
popped up the fact that Biden is going

2184
02:52:26.239 --> 02:52:31.959
to build a wall, and of
course it'll be just as ineffective as Trump's

2185
02:52:31.959 --> 02:52:35.639
wall was, and it's just as
much of a dodge for the immigration problem,

2186
02:52:35.639 --> 02:52:39.719
because that's not really getting to the
fundamental aspect of it. And let's

2187
02:52:39.760 --> 02:52:43.680
talk about the fundamental aspect of it. I've always said that it's about the

2188
02:52:43.680 --> 02:52:46.120
welfare magnet and what you can get
when you come in. Well, of

2189
02:52:46.159 --> 02:52:50.600
course, as we talked about the
person who had all these people who were

2190
02:52:50.719 --> 02:52:56.360
seated, they had been caught and
they were going to be released by the

2191
02:52:56.479 --> 02:53:01.280
US government. And so they're asking
them of the reporters going down the line,

2192
02:53:01.959 --> 02:53:07.040
asking them in English and also in
Spanish if necessary. But a lot

2193
02:53:07.079 --> 02:53:11.120
of these people coming from Africa or
from Asia, all these different places,

2194
02:53:11.719 --> 02:53:13.639
but asking them, you know,
where'd you come from and where are you

2195
02:53:13.719 --> 02:53:16.040
going? Almost all of them are
going to New York. Why, Well,

2196
02:53:16.120 --> 02:53:20.920
because, like the bank robbers said, that's where the money is and

2197
02:53:22.479 --> 02:53:26.319
that is where the nice hotels are
for people. And so Babel and Bee

2198
02:53:26.360 --> 02:53:33.959
had had a funny headline vacationing family
poses as illegal immigrants to get a free

2199
02:53:33.959 --> 02:53:37.120
hotel room in New York City.
Good evening. I mean, oh,

2200
02:53:37.159 --> 02:53:41.079
la amiga, amigo, amigo has
amiga. I guess I don't know.

2201
02:53:41.319 --> 02:53:46.360
In nice Spanish, I guess one
is gender related, right, How is

2202
02:53:46.399 --> 02:53:50.760
that going to happen all these these
languages like Spanish and German, so if

2203
02:53:50.760 --> 02:53:52.719
you have to know the gender of
something, they got to really be confused.

2204
02:53:52.760 --> 02:53:58.239
This goes way beyond pronouns for those
people. Anyway, we're weary illegal

2205
02:53:58.280 --> 02:54:01.920
immigrants looking for a top floor owner
suite, preferably with a jacuzie away from

2206
02:54:01.920 --> 02:54:07.920
the ice machine, poor Fovar.
Feeling compassion for their plight, the hotel

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employee offered condolences to the Donaldson family
for Governor Hockle's harsh words about illegal immigrants

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coming to New York such ignorance,
responded Missus Donaldson. You know, a

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little room service would go a long
way toward healing the wounds some what do

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you Americans call them margaritas? Perhaps, Well, that's not too far away

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from the truth that we say happening
there in New York. They're spending on

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02:54:33.000 --> 02:54:37.040
these migrants between three hundred and five
hundred dollars a night on hotel rooms.

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That's one of the reasons why they're
looking at a bill, a total tab

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02:54:41.399 --> 02:54:43.799
because of the number of people,
in the amount of money that they're spending,

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a bill of about four and a
half billion dollars. And of course

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these rates that they have now negotiated
with these hotel owners are in many cases

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twice twice what the hotel owners were
paying we're charging for rooms before. Well,

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I tell you, those New York
liberals drive a hard bargain, don't

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02:55:05.360 --> 02:55:09.840
they tell you what? We got
this big contract and we're gonna you know,

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02:55:11.200 --> 02:55:15.479
one of the hotels talking about this
about three months ago. It's a

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02:55:15.559 --> 02:55:24.719
hotel that was declaring bankruptcy because nobody
other than illegal immigrants from other countries,

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02:55:24.959 --> 02:55:26.360
you know, illegal aliens want to
go there and get free stuff. But

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most people don't want to go to
New York to vacation for so many reasons.

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But you know it's after the lockdown. Everything they not recovered and things

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have, you know, a lot
a lot of issues reasons that you would

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02:55:41.920 --> 02:55:45.280
not want to go to New York
City the past. People used to want

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02:55:45.319 --> 02:55:48.280
to go for a Broadway. I
don't know that's even opened up yet really,

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02:55:48.639 --> 02:55:52.600
but anyway, they were going out
of business, and then Eric Adams

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02:55:52.680 --> 02:55:56.000
comes around. It's like, well, I will give you, like,

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02:55:56.159 --> 02:56:01.600
you know, ninety percent occupancy guaranteed
and we'll pay you twice of what you

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02:56:01.639 --> 02:56:05.719
were charging people before. Wow,
you know that's driving a really hard bargain.

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02:56:05.719 --> 02:56:09.239
If you're going to come in and
give somebody full occupancy and pull them

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02:56:09.239 --> 02:56:11.920
out of bankruptcy, you don't you
think you'd negotiated price. But no,

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02:56:11.000 --> 02:56:16.840
not these guys. And so this
is the type of thing that is pulling

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02:56:16.879 --> 02:56:22.159
people in. And there was about
four hundred and fifty miles of wall that

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02:56:22.319 --> 02:56:28.680
is there now at the border out
of two thousand miles, and you know,

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02:56:28.760 --> 02:56:31.440
those four hun and fifty miles,
most of that was a repaired wall

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02:56:31.600 --> 02:56:35.520
that Trump did. He didn't really
do anything new. So think of this

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02:56:35.559 --> 02:56:41.600
in terms of, well, we've
got a you know, we got a

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twenty foot wall here, but there's
only four feet that actually have a wall.

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The rest of it is a big
open walkway. The other sixteen feet

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02:56:52.280 --> 02:56:54.239
is a big open walkway. That's
what our border looks like. You know.

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02:56:54.319 --> 02:56:58.000
So maybe got two feet on this
side and two feet on that side,

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02:56:58.040 --> 02:57:01.760
and then you got sixteen feet of
an open walkway for people to come

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02:57:01.840 --> 02:57:05.319
right through. That's what our border
looks like. After Trump's wall, you

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02:57:05.360 --> 02:57:07.399
think it's going to get any better
with Biden's wall, And of course you

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02:57:07.440 --> 02:57:09.920
had the Department of Homeland Security come
in and say, well, we've just

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02:57:11.000 --> 02:57:15.319
waived all these environmental regulations, and
I forget, it's like a like thirty

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02:57:15.319 --> 02:57:20.159
different regulations. They just waved,
why didn't Trump do that? Why didn't

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and again it's not going to stop
anything. They said, well, we

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02:57:24.559 --> 02:57:28.239
have an emergency, this is this
is something. We needed to do something

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02:57:28.280 --> 02:57:37.159
about this immediately, says may Orcus
at Homeland Security. And yet the only

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02:57:37.200 --> 02:57:41.200
thing they could do would be,
you know, set up some Concertino wire

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02:57:41.319 --> 02:57:46.959
and put the military there at the
border to defend our border for once,

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02:57:48.120 --> 02:57:54.680
except that the Biden administration has been
sending troops down to cut that Concertina wire

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02:57:54.719 --> 02:57:58.600
or whatever. There was a recent
video by Michael Jahn who had interviewed he

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02:57:58.719 --> 02:58:03.920
was now at the Darien Gap doing
reports about how these traffickers, these NGO

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02:58:05.040 --> 02:58:09.000
traffickers who charging people a fortune,
or they're getting paid by Soro so other

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02:58:09.040 --> 02:58:13.159
people like that, bringing them in
and they're now indebted to them. Maybe

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02:58:13.159 --> 02:58:18.040
they have to work in prostitution,
or they bring these kids in or trial

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02:58:18.079 --> 02:58:22.840
trafficking. But however they get there, they're coming into various places in Central

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02:58:22.879 --> 02:58:26.719
America and then they have to funnel
through that Darien Gap. And so he

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02:58:26.799 --> 02:58:30.440
was showing all the people coming in, but he had a picture of somebody

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02:58:30.479 --> 02:58:33.879
in uniform and you see a big
crowd of people on the other side of

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02:58:33.879 --> 02:58:37.360
the concertina wire. And then this
is an American official in uniform and he's

2266
02:58:37.399 --> 02:58:39.440
got heavy gloves on and he's holding
the wire and he's cutting it, and

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02:58:39.479 --> 02:58:43.840
there's a patch on his shoulder.
And when I saw that, I don't

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02:58:43.840 --> 02:58:46.479
know if there was an update to
that to say where the guy was from,

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02:58:48.360 --> 02:58:50.600
but Michael Jahn put that out and
he says, so who is this?

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02:58:50.879 --> 02:58:54.879
You know what is this patch?
Anybody recognize this patch? And you

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02:58:54.920 --> 02:59:01.239
know what group or organization or branch
of the military. You're a border patrol

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02:59:01.440 --> 02:59:05.920
or you know what bureaucracy is this
guy part of? Now we need to

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02:59:05.920 --> 02:59:09.159
know what's going on. And quite
frankly, it has gotten so bad now

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02:59:09.920 --> 02:59:15.200
that Biden is going to talk about
building a wall, but it's just talk.

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02:59:16.159 --> 02:59:20.000
If you've got the welfare magnet,
you're going to pull people over it,

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02:59:20.159 --> 02:59:24.040
under it, through it, around
it. That's why they're coming in.

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02:59:24.680 --> 02:59:28.200
And you've got to stop that welfare
magnet. The wall is ever much

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02:59:28.680 --> 02:59:35.159
every bit as much of a distraction
as a beard as a headfake, as

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02:59:35.159 --> 02:59:39.159
it always was with Donald Trump.
But isn't it interesting that Biden is now

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02:59:39.680 --> 02:59:43.760
resorting to that. Of course,
you know, the JAB was bad until

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02:59:43.760 --> 02:59:46.840
he became president, and then it
was a good thing and he mandated it.

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02:59:48.319 --> 02:59:52.200
And of course maybe he sees an
opportunity to build a wall around us,

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02:59:52.280 --> 02:59:56.040
because that's what Ron Paul always said. To be careful about that wall.

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02:59:56.040 --> 02:59:58.840
It can keep you in a country
as well. Thanks for listening.

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