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Get command, God, don't get
so greenly down Matzille coming. Welcome everybody,

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here, we go Happy Friday.
It is Matt Connerton Unleashed and we

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are live from the studios of w
m n H ninety five point three FM

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in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel six. If

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you're in Manchester and hello twelve our
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globe. You can go to my
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your live streaming options, social media
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etcetera, etcetera. And I am
not alone. If you haven't go problems

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out for Bath for you son,
I've got ninety nine problems, but change

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one. DJ Reckless is in the
house. We are Bath. Yes,

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I haven't seen uh. Let's guess
they haven't seen you in a long time,

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but thus obviously not true. I
haven't seen you here in a long

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time. No, it's been a
minute. It's been I'd say it's been

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a minute and a half. The
young people say that, right, a

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minute and a half. Yes,
yes, so we have Yes. DJ

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Reckless is here with us on this
Friday afternoon. By the way, we

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do not have coming up in the
second hour our musical guest Crooked Cash.

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They will not be here. They
let Jenny know early this morning, first

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thing, so they give us notice. But I guess one of the guys

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has a family emergency. So we
hope everything is okay and they will certainly

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reschedule, so no worries there.
We also don't have Eric Pilter his classic

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film review because he's got an internet
outage in his area in Cedar Rapids.

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I guess some city workers accidentally,
uh knocked out the internet in his neighborhood.

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He uh remember when Comcast did that? Did that here? Or that

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truck did that? I do remember
that? Yeah, yeah yeah he Uh

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what did he say here? Oh, I'm under an internet outage currently.

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A fiber line was hit or struck. I'm waiting. I'm waiting now to

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see when it comes back on.
And he said, uh, it's still

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down. They haven't been able to
repair it yet. He said, uh,

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yeah, they couldn't find where the
fiber line was cut and had to

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stop working for the night. According
to Uh, that's what what he was

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told. Yeah, yeah, so
that's uh, that's a shame. It's

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terrible. But anyway, so we'll
have Eric Pilcher's a film review on Monday.

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So but DJ Reckless is here so
and and by the way, you

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are going to be tomorrow night at
the hop Knot, our amazing sponsor.

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Of course, if you're watching online, you can see I've got the shirt

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I wear the colors with pride,
and they've got those delicious Gormet pretzels.

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They have an astortment of craft beer, and tomorrow is the hop Knot's fourth

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birthday, and they've got a bunch
of live music music. So during the

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day, excuse excuse me, Oh
my goodness, I'm so excited. I'm

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so excited about the hop Knot.
It's like I suddenly have a pizza a

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piece of pretzel caught in my throat
their DJ Reckless, even though I'm not

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actually consuming a pretzel. Yeah,
the math doesn't add up there. I

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know it's psychological. But yeah,
so they've got during the day, they've

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got Matt Litzinger. We'll be performing
there at one pm. At three pm,

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they have Jasmine Man and at four
pm they have michaela Horn and then

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they're gonna to close for a few
hours and then they're reopening at eight pm

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for a dance party with Big Gay
Events and DJ Reckless will be performing that

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guy sucks who does less kid?
Oh that's you silly, Oh my goodness,

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Oh my goodness. So this will
be your first time d Jane at

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the topnot correct, I think so? Yeah, not definitely. Yeah,

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yeah, very cool. And you're
gonna be part of the big gay events.

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Yeah, so that'll be fun.
Yeah, I'm excited. It's it's

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it's it's been an interesting week,
so yeah, yeah, we would have

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wrapped things up. Yeah tomorrow.
Of course, their their fourth birthday and

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one of our great sponsors here at
WMNH. But yeah, you had last

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night, you did. You were
at Murphy's Murphy's tap Room, right,

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Yeah, started a new new event
there weekly. Okay, so you're gonna

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be there every thursday? Ye outstanding. Well, I'm gonna have different there

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every Thursday. I'm not gonna be
there every Thursday. But we in it.

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We finally launched Reckless Unit Verity,
which is huge. It's it will

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be careful. You know, Trump
had Trump University and that ended horribly to

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totally different things. It's no fraud
here. There's no one good good there

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won't be a class action lawsuit against
you in the future hopefully. Well,

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very good either way, man,
it it was it was. It was

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definitely, definitely huge and very eye
opening to see for me and to see

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what I can do in this city. We put almost two hundred and fifty

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heads up in that building, so
excellent. It was massive and yo,

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honestly it's it was shocking. It
was shocking, especially with the turn of

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events last night with the car accident
on the corner of Elmin Auburn. Oh

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what happened? I saw somebody post
it on online that there was there was

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a big to do? Was it? Was it a really bad accident?

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It was really bad? Wow?
Yeah, multi cars, car and car

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and bike? Oh no, yeah, like a motorcycle or an actual bicycle

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a motorcycle. Oh okay, that's
never good. It seems like that's a

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trend lately too. Yeah. And
one of them at my thoughts are my

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thoughts are with the biker because I
know her personally. Oh kid, yeah,

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so I hope she's doing pretty good. No one's heard anything or listen,

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I haven't heard anything. Oh wow, that's terrible. It's super unfortunate.

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And the staff at Angel City.
I hope you're all are doing okay,

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because that's it's really unfortunate because she
was the bar manager at Angel City.

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Oh okay, yeah wow, oh
oh, sorry to hear that.

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So you don't know if she's okay
or not. No, I'm not entirely

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sure. I heard all of this
at like two am this morning. Yeah,

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I heard. I got a text
yesterday right when the event started that

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there was part of the street was
blocked off, and I considered for a

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minute, honestly canceling the event because
I didn't think anyone would come. And

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I showed up at eleven, my
opener was there and there was almost two

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hundred people. Wow, and I
was I was shocked. I was like,

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holy crap. But it all comes
back to like the networking I've done

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in this city, and it's it's
honestly, what has been for me recently

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is a lot of people have counted
me out over the past two years,

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did me wrong, did me dirty, And now I'm finally showing that Yo,

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I'm I'm I'm clearly gonna have to
do this myself. I've had my

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help in the city, I've had
my guidance, but when it comes down

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to it, it's whatever. Like
last night, that was one hundred percent

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my promotion me even Murphy said it. Yeah. And for me, me

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as a local DJ, to be
able to put that together on a week

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notice, it's massive, massive,
you only had a week. Yeah.

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He came to me like last week
and was like, hey, here,

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you want to do Thursdays. I
go absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I

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want to do Thursdays. Yeah.
I'm like, it's a chance for me

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to build my rapport with other DJs
and book them and for me to get

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these college kids out and honestly,
yo, shout it to everyone from saying

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as who came out last night?
That was that was that was huge And

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I honestly I haven't I haven't said
thank you to anybody yet on like Instagram

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or anything like that, because I
was waiting for this moment. Excellent,

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we're gonna clip this, We're gonna
put it up on the gram on DJ

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reckless must be what young people are
calling all right, But no, but

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no, honestly, like I want
to say thank you to everyone that came

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out last night and truly supports me
weekend and week out, you know,

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sharing my flyers, you know,
and just showing me support over the past

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two years. And I also want
to thank the haters because that's been my

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fuel from day one. Day one. We all know what happened with me

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and soho that really played a key
in it, all right, And I'm

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I'm I'm glad what happened with me
there happened because it showed me my worth

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and who I am, what I
can do, and it's I'm grateful for

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that, yeah, honestly, and
everyone that's did me wrong, counting me

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out, it's it's water under the
bridge. But didn't forget it. I

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didn't forget it. It's always been
in my head for the past two years,

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and now I finally have something to
show for it, for all the

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hard work and everything else, the
tears, the blood, the sweat,

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it's the frustration, the sweat,
the stress. And yeah, I mean

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I'm genuinely still in shock about last
night. Really, yeah, yeah,

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honestly, hasn't hasn't all come like
come to fruition yet. I'm just like

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sitting here, I'm like, Wow, were you unsure that a Thursday night

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would do well? Is that what
it was? Or you anything else will

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do well? Right? Right?
I'm not sure anything. I always expect

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zero people to show up. Really
yeah, I said last yesterday for the

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best prepare for. I said,
yesterday to the manager over there, I

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said, it's going to be hit
or miss this week. Yeah. I

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think it was a hit. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I'm

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laughing at the chat room. Melanie
just said Melanie Liberty, of course from

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the great state of Vermont. She
just said, what's up, dj Rack.

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I get pretty sweaty too, yeah, she Djane. She talks about

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that a lot, totally. Yeah, yeah, very good. Now,

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so uh and just to clarify,
so, so you've got every Thursday there,

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but it won't always be you.
Yeah, I know I'm gonna be

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there once a month other than like
I think I'm doing a Halloween thing there.

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I'm doing a Taylor Swift party there, and I'm doing my birthday bash

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day. Oh, very good.
When when's your birthday? It's November twenty

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nine. But Thanksgiving Eve it's going
to be the official birthday bash. Oh

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Thanksgiving Eve. That's a big night. Very good, very good. Now

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do you know yet? So for
the nights that you're not there, you're

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just gonna book out their DJs.
I'm fully booked up until like November.

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Now, oh, very good.
Put that out the way quick. Do

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you want to mention who's coming up
just some week? Next week, I

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have my residence DJ Shaun White there. I'm super excited for him to be

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there because he's one of the guys
I started this all out with. Started

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dad open for him. I opened
for him all the time. He's a

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great doucer and he teaches me a
lot, so it was only right for

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me to put him on. Yeah, and then the week after I'm not

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exactly sure who I have, but
I know I have somebody. Yeah,

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No, that's good. Yeah.
When I used to promote a lot of

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rock shows in the area and whatnot, I would always try to get get

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in with a venue where they would
give me a night, you know,

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one night a week. Actually,
I for if for people around here who

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who remember the old Uptown tavern that
we used to have up the street.

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I remember they gave me Thursday nights
there for a while, you know,

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and it was it was, it
was pretty successful. It's you know,

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never it was never as good as
a as busy as a weekend, but

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you know, Thursday nights if you
promote it, right, you can get

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people out and like you said too, you know, whereas you're really promoting

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to a college crowd, that certainly
helps because I get the impression that a

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lot of the college kids around here
they go out on Thursday nights because a

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lot of them go home on the
weekend on Friday. So Thursday night's kind

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of the night. Is that is
not enough? Sarially, sorry, I'm

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dealing with something for later, but
saying as they have a campus like they

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you, they have dorms like residence
halls. So they all found me out

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there. Yeah, they all party
on in center, are on campus and

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then don't go out Friday Saturdays,
but come out Thursdays. So and I've

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always had a good I've always had
a good what's call good reputation, would

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saying us because I did all their
like bar events that say Murphy's for almost

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a year and I'm coming up on
a year. Yeah, so I built

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I built that up, and I
did a few few on campus events for

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them. Yeah, And it was
weird because like last year during the Kentucky

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Derby, I went on went on
their campus for a party and it felt

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weird. I felt genuinely weird because
everybody knew me. I didn't know a

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single person. Everyone's graving pictures with
me, and it's like, I'm not

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used to that. So it's the
social awkwardness came out, and like,

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I gotta figure out a way through
that, because like yesterday, I must

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have taken at least three hundred photos
with people. Oh wow, yep,

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yeah, and that's what it is. Like, Yeah, i'd take my

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photo, I'd take photos of people. I put my hat forward, show

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my logo, and because it's subconscious, yes, they see my logo,

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they're like, oh, that looks
familiar, and then they'll see it somewhere

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else, like at Murphy's or something. When you mentioned doing that with your

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hat, I remember the have you
ever you you told Jenny and I about

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this, but I don't know if
you ever told the story on the air

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when when Channel nine approached you get
into this one. Yeah, yeah,

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yes, and I don't think I've
been on since that. I'm gonna find

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the audio while you're talking about it. Yeah, go ahead, okay,

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tell that story. I was going
to get lunch or something like that at

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the corner of Elmon Mechanics Street and
WMR was out there interviewing for something when

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Trump he had just got indicted or
something, and I was like, you

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know what, Sure, I'll say
something. But I was in my work

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shirt. So I ran over changed, put on my put on my reckless

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hat, put on my reckless hoodie, I think in my jacket, and

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I made sure I made sure my
logo was front and center this time,

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because the last time I tried this, that bonfire when we did the radio

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thon or whatever. Yeah, a
few years ago, they cut my logo

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off on my sweatshirt. I was
like, son of a gun, like

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I can't win. But it helped. It was. It was a funny

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thing, great, great marketing.
Yeah, I posted up on the socials.

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We at great engagement. The hate
messages from all the Trump He's was

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hilarious. It was it was it
was it was. It was a riot,

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the death threats, everything else.
I was like, okay, cool,

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I found the audio here. Mean
about him has always been negative.

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Some vooters, like Christian Lacosts,
have had their minds made up about whether

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or not they vote for Donald Trump
for a while now, from January sixth

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and now this like when does it
stop? You know what I'm when do

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people actually realize that he's not a
good person and he's not good for the

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country. Yeah, it's cool that. Uh were there other people they were

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talking to too, because they had
to wait for you to go do that.

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Uh, I don't think there was
anybody else that I was talking Yeah,

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but yeah, I know. It
was. It was funny. It

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was it was a riot. And
granted, everything I said in that interview

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is obviously true. That's how I
feel about him. Yeah, but like

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I didn't do it for that,
No, but that that is great,

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that is great publicity exactly. But
but you got a lot of uh,

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you got a lot of you got
a lot of hate for that, Yeah,

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from a bunch of eighty year olds
like okay, okay, cool,

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Well just leave your inheritance to me. Yeah, I don't care about your

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opinion. Just I care about your
inheritance or your your will priorities. Honestly,

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That's right. But no, no, no, it was. It

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was funny. It was cool.
Yeah. Yeah, well very good.

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Now what's uh what's on tonight tonight? I'm at snow. I'm on campus

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tonight for not interesting. When I
got a sorority's booking me out there,

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so we're gonna go out there.
We're gonna have some fun. I'm gonna

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make my connects have some some I'm
probably hit up an afterparty two. That's

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at some dorm I don't usually I
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okay, what time does that start? That's at eight I think eight to

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eleven, eight eleven, and then
tomorrow I'm gonna go to Santa's tailgate and

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film some TikTok contents, some pranks
and stuff like that. Oh you still

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do pranks, yeah, every now
and then. I just haven't uploaded anything

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because it gets I don't know.
I'm trying to correlate it to what I

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do. That's why I started the
Instagram page for Reckless University, because I

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don't want that to be a direct
reflection of me. I don't want that

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to target college kids. Oh I
see, like my my page is just

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for DJs and I hate that.
I hate it. I hate it.

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I hate it so much. Why
Because DJs are the most toxic people I've

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ever met my life. Really m
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that you're booking at. No No, No No. For example, though,

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like there was a there was a
group chat of Boston. DJ's right.

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Yeah, And I've never realized how
egotistical short people can be. And

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like there was this one kid like
who would talk so much trash about me.

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Yeah, he kicked me out of
the group chat over something, and

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then like people would tell me what
was being said in that group chat for

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almost months after I told you this
story. Oh yeah, and it's just

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like, yeah, that's all fuel
to fuel to me. That's all fuel

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to me. I'm playing down in
Boston almost every month now, Like okay,

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cool, Like all right, you
live down in Boston, Okay,

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it's cool, but like, don't
trash from me. I'm in a totally

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different market that's totally different than Boston. It's much easier. It's much easier

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out there to pack a club than
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that, well you got more college
kids there, yea here I mean,

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And it's like it's like confidently like
people people try me for like not being

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able to pack soho when I was
when I was there, I was bottle

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service. I do standing room only. That's ten times hardy. Yeah,

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always will be bottle service. You've
got groups of people coming in making the

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place look busy. Right standing room
only totally different, totally different. Now,

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Melanie in the chat room, she
was kind of bonding with you there

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over what you were saying. She
said, yeah, Dji, she said,

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yeah, DJ's are lame, and
then she said what I am short

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and I never talked trash? Is
that true? And then she says bottle

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service lame. Yeah, she's with
you, she's feeling you, she's picking

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up what you're laying down. The
young people say that right, No,

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okay, sorry, I try hard, too hard. Ah. Now,

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how long are you playing tomorrow night
at hopknot nine to twelve? Oh?

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Excellent, excellent, Yeah, excellent, excellent, Well, very good,

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very good. Well. DJ Reckless
is here with us. If you're just

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joining us. This is first time
on the show in a while actually,

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But if you've would like to call
in, if you've got anything for Reckless,

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well he's here, or anything else
you want to talk about. Six

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zero three two five zero six zero
seven six zero three two five zero six

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zero seven. You can also text
me at six one seven nine one seven

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four four seven six. I'm on
social media at Matt Connerton. You can

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email me Matt at matt Connerton dot
com and of course you can interact endo

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Pine in the Facebook live chat,
but the best thing to do so that

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we can hear and enjoy your dulcet
tones is to give us a call at

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six zero three two five zero six
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up tonight. So yeah, so
Reckless will be he'll be at the hop,

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not tomorrow night, very exciting tonight. I'm not sure what they're doing

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at the hop, not this evening, but I can tell you here on

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w M and H we have retro
Spectrum Radio with PAULI C. And I'll

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tell you what Paul posted on social
medi about it. Friday Night on Retrospectrum

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Radio will feature our third and final
segment of famous songs ripped off by your

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favorite artists and sitting in for DJ
Steve this week will be none other than

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Dan Randall from Dan Randall and the
Randletts. Do join us and we do

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recommend for that show. If you'd
like to hang out with us on the

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Facebook live chat, we'd love to
see you in there. Just go to

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the Retrospectrum Radio Facebook page, but
open a second browser tab and go to

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WMH radio dot org and click listen
live. Because Paul mutes the Facebook feed

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because of all the copyrighted music.
Facebook has been especially ticky about that recently,

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so so just open a second tab
to stream the audio while you hang

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out and chat with us in the
Facebook live chat. We love to uh,

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we love to see people in there. Do you ever you ever try

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to stream any of your set to
Facebook? And if so, do they

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do they knock it down? Or
what about it? I've seen you do

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it on Instagram, but but I've
done on Instagram in a wild They'll kick

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me off every yeah, every like
five minutes. And the issue is like

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they'll lench shadow band me or something. Oh they will. My engagement will

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tank and it's just like I'd rather
not. Oh okay, Yeah, I

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learned the hard way that Instagram is
very very uh, very strict, much

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more so than Facebook. Shannon is
on the line, Hi, Shannon,

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Hello, Hello him, DJ Reckless, Hi, about the retrospect from there?

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There are too many songs now they
start out and you think it's this

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one, and it's another one now
with the with the keys in the core

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progression or whatever is it? Okay? I thought you could not pat in

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a sound. You cannot, but
you can get it cleared pat sound,

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so you if you get it cleared
through the label, I believe that the

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artist made the song. You can
get it cleared through the artist. You

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can use it if it's a sample. Yeah, yeah, example, is

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that what you mean, sham No. I thought you just couldn't claim ownership

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to a like a beat or or
I don't know what I'm trying to say.

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Uh, well, I think it
was referencing. It's a story.

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I heard it one time ago,
and I think it was referencing on motorcycles.

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You know, the sound of opposed
to other bikes. They have distinct

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sounds, and you couldn't patent that
sound. I thought, I don't know.

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Oh right before uh Peter show started
this afternoon, and if he's listening,

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thank you for playing press Monkey and
high DJA Steve. Uh there was

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a song on. It was a
country song, but it clearly sounded like

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stand by Me. You know that, you know the songs? Yeah,

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it sounded like that that beat?
Okay? Does I say beat is my

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version of a beat as a sample? When you say beat, like,

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do you mean the drum track the
flow? I think she means like instrumental

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or like I don't know the technical
name. Yeah, I'm not sure exactly.

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I'm not sure exactly what you mean, Shannon. It's just just I

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don't know. Never mind, I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna figure it out

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if I just a flow do you
mean? It sounds like the saying I

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don't know? Do you mean like
the vibe like, uh yeah, hippie

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trip. I'm not gonna go vibe
and go real hippie here. But yeah,

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the if I think of a word, I'll let you know. Okay,

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a lot of a lot of snow, Shannon, But if probably see

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went went through all the different genres
of music, country and hip, he'd

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probably kind a lot more. That's
right, probably carry you through till Christmas.

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That's right. Yes, we could
do an eleven part series. Yeah,

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all right, we'll have a good
one and television policy and uh Dan

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and DJA. All right, Shannon, thank you for the call. All

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right, having tweekend too it DJ
bye bye. Well very nice. That

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opens up the line for you.
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seven six zo three two five zero
six zero seven. Yeah, we were

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on Paul's show. We've been we've
been doing this, you know, the

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Paul will play like a song and
then the original one that guess it yeah,

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and then but a lot of them
I voted not guilty. I should

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have a gavel because you know,
as you know, because you're not only

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a DJ, but you also play
guitar and you sing, and actually you

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in fact, a few years ago
you performed live on the show. So

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as you know, there are a
lot of chord progressions in rock mu that

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are very common. And and sometimes, you know, when these chord progressions,

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you know, they pop up in
these different songs and then somebody says,

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oh, well that that sounds like
that, that sounds like it ripped

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off this other song, and it's
like, okay, well, if you're

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gonna say this song ripped off that
song, there's also a hundred other songs

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that ripped off that song, you
know. So so to me, it's

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like you have to kind of accept
that there are just certain chord progressions and

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melodies and bits of melodies that are
just very common in music, and uh,

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and they just they come up a
lot, and it doesn't mean necessarily

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that it's someone trying to rip somebody
else off, or even if it does

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happen, it's probably not something they're
doing consciously. Oh, Shannon is calling

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back. I wonder if she thought
of the word Hi, Shannon. No,

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I didn't think of the word.
Okay, when you know, when

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they say dropped the beat, it's
they don't say dropped the sample if they

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dropped the beat. Oh, yes, reckless, you're a DJ. Can

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you explain that? No, drop
the beat? You know? Don't you

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don't you drop the beat when you're
a DJ? Yeah? Oh? Or

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that old school speak. No,
I get what you're saying. I do

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get what you're saying about ticking up
what I'm putting down. Yeah, it's

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it's it's it's I want to say
you're going for, Like the beat and

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sample can be the same thing.
That's two. It's a it's two two

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different terms for the same thing.
Right, So like hold on jay Z's

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song dirt dirt off your shoulders or
whatever? Okay, dirt off my shoulder?

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Yeah, yep, you take that, and you take bounce back by

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Big Sean or whatever. I believe, Okay, same instrumental, Oh,

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same sample. I've never heard bounce
back to different lyrics. It's just different

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lyrics. Yeah. Now, did
they have to get permission? And I'd

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assume. So, I mean,
yeah, the closest I can relate to

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that is my my friend actually is
a producer under the label Itaway a Mafia.

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He produced the song for Anelli Chappo, which is a which is a

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rap artist. He used the sample
from, or instrumental from Nelly's It's getting

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Hot in Here, Hot in Here. I've heard that a few tracks.

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Actually yeah, yeah, but he
but he used that did he gets?

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No? Nelly came out. Nelly
came out on the on the MTV Awards

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and performed the song with him.
Don't okay, I didn't see it.

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No, no, you The only
time you will get in trouble is if

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you don't ask for permission, right, if you don't get a contract with

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permission, right, That's why you
see like ed Shearon ed, Charon recently

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just had a lawsuit for it.
Yeah that he one, thankfully? Yes?

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Who else? Who else? Am? I think that Sharon's been sued

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a couple of times now. Led
Zeppelin are the worst offenders in history.

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But I mean there's eighty eight keys
on a piano, correct, Yes,

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yes there are, and there are
eight notes musically speaking, right, Okay,

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I mean there's only so much you
can do. So something's going to

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sound like something And I don't know
that's right. I don't have songs being

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played out there, but i'd be
flattered if somebody. I don't know.

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I guess I'm just different because to
me, it's music. Music is to

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be shared. It is not a
competition, you know, right, I

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don't know or how much can I
get because they written me off? Right,

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don't be greedy about your music sharing, right, it's not a competition.

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I made up a little risk,
but you do have to make a

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living. You made you made up
a yeah. Uh. Back when I

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was eighteen, my my ex he
was playing the acoustics. I said we'll

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try this, and you know he
did it. Now, I swear I

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had never heard it before. Whether
he did or not, I don't know.

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Some time later, Patience comes on
the radio. But guns and Roses,

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Yeah, are this the part of
it up? Muse? Okay,

407
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,119
so that was kind of neat,
but yeah, true story? Wow?

408
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:41,480
So okay, all right, I
just don't know, uh lingo or I

409
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:44,880
don't know. I think have you
considered legal action against guns and Roses?

410
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,359
Yeah? But you know it's it's
true. It's true story. I mean,

411
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:53,240
I if I knew how to get
ahold of him, I'd say,

412
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,039
you don't tell him. I'm not
lying. He played, he played,

413
00:29:56,039 --> 00:30:00,519
It made the sound, you know, and how do it? No?

414
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:07,200
Is that is that the progression?
Is that the core pro meaning? No,

415
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,079
no, no, no, I'm
so lost. No no no,

416
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:14,400
no no no no no, no
no no no. Is that the progression?

417
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,680
Or is that just a beat a
riff? All right? I don't

418
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,160
think that doesn't sound like patience by
guns and Roses. That sounds more like

419
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,720
get ready by no no no,
no, no, no, no no

420
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:33,920
no, so get ready. No, you're not doing no no no.

421
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:40,920
I wish I could sing falsetto it. I can, oh, I guess

422
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,440
I can do it if I try. Get Ready played bass. This is

423
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:55,480
why I played bass, because this
is what happens when a sick Okay,

424
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:02,720
Christen, does you gotta go to
radio voice? Thank you? All right?

425
00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:06,799
For the rest of the rest of
the rest of the show. He's

426
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:10,640
just gonna sing. No, I
can't do that, you know what.

427
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:14,039
I'm actually a pretty good harmony singer. If I'm singing with other people,

428
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:15,559
I can find the octave and kind
of lock in and whatnot. But on

429
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:19,720
my own. I do get lost. I have over the years had several

430
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,920
vocal coaches, all of all,
three of whom at different times in my

431
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:29,559
life. We're very encouraging, but
yeah, I just could never quite I

432
00:31:29,559 --> 00:31:34,000
actually did years ago right here in
Manchester. I participated in a recital because

433
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:40,759
my vocal teacher at the time was
having a recital at the library and it

434
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,759
was like a bunch of her thirteen
year old students and me singing. Actually

435
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:49,680
there was one other adult there part
of those, but yeah, it was

436
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,920
kind of weird. I sang Let
It Be by the Beatles, Let it

437
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,599
Be. She wanted me to sing
Daughters by John Mayer, but that would

438
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,880
have been alinging for me because I
would have been vomiting in my mouth while

439
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,680
singing it. But I loved singing
Let it Be. Let's see who we

440
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,079
have on the line here. Hi, welcome to Matt Connerton unleashed. Who's

441
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:17,599
this, Hey, Maddie, it's
me. It's polyc Yes. So tonight

442
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,759
we're going to be doing a little
bit of a twist to the last segment

443
00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:27,440
of the plagiarism. So like we
did play tonight, some of them were

444
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:30,880
they're mostly samples songs. Okay,
so you have to guess. You and

445
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:35,200
Dan Randall and our listeners at home, we'll have to guess whether or not

446
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,240
there was actually a lawsuit. Oh, that'll be fun. Oh, I

447
00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:42,480
like this, This will be cool. Just play like any of Edge Shearing

448
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,920
songs. There is there was a
lawsuit, that's that's true. But he

449
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,279
always wins always, yeah, which
was crazy to me. Yeah, but

450
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,480
yeah, that'll be fun. I'm
looking forward to that, Paul. I've

451
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:57,400
enjoyed this whole plagiarism thing. It's
been a lot of fun. But this

452
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,240
this sounds like it'll be particularly stim
and it'll be wonderful to see Dan Randall

453
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,400
of Dan Randall and the Randletts.
Absolutely, he'll tell us all about the

454
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,759
recent tour he's been on as a
as an audience member. Do you think

455
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:15,759
he'll do you think he'll sign us
with a sharpie? I'm sorry you cut

456
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:16,759
out? What was that, Matt? Do you think he'll sign us if

457
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:21,400
we give him a sharpie? Will
he sign our body parts? I hope

458
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:27,559
so. I mean I already have
like a whole rainbow variety of sharpie's in

459
00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:31,680
my backpack, so I'm hoping he
like colors. Me a little bit.

460
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:37,480
Actually, wow, that'll be great. You know something that Dan himself would

461
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:42,279
want. I want his autograph in
every single color of sharpie that I have.

462
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:47,119
Yeah, outstanding, that'll be fun. Yeah, because Dan would do

463
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,119
that. Dan would go. I
mean, Dan's going to see I just

464
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:53,839
spoke to him on I think Wednesday
night, yea, and to make plans

465
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:57,000
for him to come in. And
he told me that he's going to see

466
00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:00,200
Corey Saltman at the end of the
month. And I was pissed off him

467
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,039
because he didn't tell me that he
was going to that. I would have

468
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:07,119
went with him. He's going to
see Corey Corey Feldman a storian. Oh

469
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,239
my god. Yeah, it's like
a lecture. It's a lecture. Really.

470
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,760
Yeah. We'll get the details on
it tonight. But what Dan told

471
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,159
me, I'm like, Dan,
why didn't you tell me? Man?

472
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,800
He goes, well, the tickets
are hundred and twenty five bucks. I

473
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,400
didn't think he wanted to sit through
two hours of Corey Felban. I mean,

474
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,239
do you want to go? And
I said, hell, no,

475
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,559
I just wanted you to ask me
and think of me. Oh my god,

476
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,199
yeah, no, I couldn't sit
through two hours and then he's gonna

477
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:37,480
meet him to meet and greet.
Oh boy, wow, hey, listen,

478
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:42,880
don't ask he's gonna He's gonna ask
Corey if he could at least do

479
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,079
a couple of station bumpers for us, and uh, maybe call in at

480
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:52,039
the show. So maybe Corey Selman
will call in. Well probably not outside

481
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:55,800
the rebel fossibility. That's that's good, Okay, all right, cool.

482
00:34:57,119 --> 00:34:59,920
I'd like to I would like to
hear him saying What's Up with the Youth?

483
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,840
I think that would be a lot
of fun. That's what I told

484
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,840
Dan, I said, I'd love
to have him come into the studio and

485
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,360
do an unplugged version of What's Up
with the Youth? Yes, we can

486
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,639
all sing it with him. It'd
be great. I'd love that only on

487
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:14,639
the chorus. Would let him have
the verses. You know, I don't

488
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:19,039
want to ruin. I hope he
still dresses like Michael Jackson because you know,

489
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,400
you remember. You might not remember
this, but we played oh my

490
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:29,599
God. It was a Corey Feldman's
cover song of of Something That Shouldn't.

491
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,239
He turned it into a sexy love
song, but it was. It was

492
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,480
imagined by John Lennon. Do you
remember we played that with Corey Feldman up

493
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,559
front. You know, I actually
I think I do sort of recall it.

494
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:44,639
It's a little fuzzy, but yeah, it sounds familiar. Yeah,

495
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:49,960
well, he tries to he does
the little sounds that Michael Jackson may he

496
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:53,719
sings. He tries to be Michael
Jackson's pathetic. Yeah. It's pretty pretty

497
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,679
bizarre. But yeah, I mean, since the other Corey is dead,

498
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:05,599
there's no reason to see one Corey, right, reckless? What right?

499
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:08,440
Reckless? Yeah right? The other
Corey Corey Hayman's dad. So you know

500
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,599
looking up who oh yeah, back
in the day, brother, there were

501
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:20,760
two actors, teen actors, and
they were in every bad teen movie you

502
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,920
could think of, except for The
Lost Boys that was a good one.

503
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,840
But these two guys were both called
Corey, Corey Hayman, Corey Seldman,

504
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,360
and there were just two. I
don't know. They were so bad,

505
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,119
they were lovable, you know what
I mean. And you know Corey Seldman

506
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:42,159
the one Dan's going to Sason.
Okay, I see, he's been in

507
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:46,320
commercials since he was a little boy. We we uh have in the archives

508
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:52,199
at WMH video footage of Corey Haymes
doing a Heinz ketchup commercial when he was

509
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:58,079
like six years old. He in
some like pretty big movies too. Oh

510
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:00,480
yeah, yeah, Same by Me, The Gooney East. Oh yeah yeah,

511
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,880
stand by Me is really good.
Man by Me was probably his biggest

512
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,599
movie. He was also in Friday
the Thirteenth, A New Beginning. Oh

513
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:15,840
okay, And they had a reality
show. It was Corey Feldman and his

514
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,360
wife and Corey Ham comes to live
with them. It was I think it

515
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,000
was on VH one, right,
yeah, I remember that. I think

516
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:29,559
it might have that lasted what fifteen
twenty minutes? Yeah, I didn't last

517
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:35,280
long, it was, Yeah,
I didn't last long. I think it

518
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,719
was called The Two Corries, I
think, if I'm not mistaken, but

519
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,400
uh yeah, and then uh and
and I think shortly after that, Corey

520
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:47,599
Corey Ham left us. Yes,
Corey Hayme left us. And also Corey

521
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:53,199
Feldman was also on several episodes of
A Love Bote. I didn't know that,

522
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:58,960
but I'm not surprised, right,
Yeah, he was. He played

523
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,800
a problem child and one of the
episodes he was still in Mirror's Kid in

524
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:09,159
an episode. Oh all right,
it's pathetic, I know, Mad,

525
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,400
I'm sorry. I'm into the next
I'm sorry, Well, I know that's

526
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,360
kind of the point of your show
exactly. All right, I will speaking

527
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,400
of that, I'll see you guys
in a few hours. Man, all

528
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:24,079
right, sounds good, Paul,
I'll see you then. Than you have

529
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:28,519
a good night, Reckless you two? All right? Here it up?

530
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:30,360
Brother, of course? All right, bye bye, it has to be

531
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,280
done. Always nice to hear from
poll C and I get to see police

532
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,000
every Friday night from eight to eleven
PM for Retro Spectrum Radio with Policy along

533
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:43,679
with j Stevens. Tonight, we
will be joined by Dan Randall of Dan

534
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,840
Randall and the Randlettes. Yeah.
Ever hear this song reckless? What's up

535
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:54,400
with the youth? That sounds like
a remix? Actually it's quite bad.

536
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:00,119
Shannon is back on the line.
Hi, Shannon. I was all excited.

537
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:05,280
I thought it was going to educate
me a little one, but whatever,

538
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:13,400
okay, question what's up with the
youth? Shannon? By the way,

539
00:39:13,679 --> 00:39:16,559
what's up with the youth? Oh? Well, they butchered the English

540
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:21,000
language, so I mean, what
else you want? Hey? We just

541
00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:23,760
made it easier, thank you.
Yeah. No, Hey, it's smarter,

542
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,840
not harder. Okay, you all
we use literally always rasis like way

543
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,039
too much. Well, you can. You can blame Generation X for that,

544
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,679
My generation is responsible for for that, and then it's just it's perpetuating

545
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,840
Generation X too. But I don't
say like all the time. You probably

546
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,760
say it more than you realize,
because we all we all say we all

547
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,000
say it more than we realize.
Shannon, trust me, we all say

548
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:52,599
we all say it more than we
realize. No, the real question is

549
00:39:52,639 --> 00:40:02,679
what's up with the youth? Sorry? I thought was that the chorus?

550
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:07,519
What was it gonna? Corey Feldman? He was in stand by Me?

551
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,159
Now? Was he one of the
kids, the younger kids of the older

552
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:17,079
one? What's up with the youth? Corey Feldman? Was did you say?

553
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,599
Was was he one of the four
boys that went to look for the

554
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:24,360
body? I believe so. I
haven't seen that movie in decades, but

555
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:29,519
I believe so because River Phoenix is
gone. He was crazy. He played

556
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:34,440
Chris Gordo. I don't know his
real name. Burne is Jerry O'Donnell.

557
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,760
And then the other one was Teddy, and I think Teddy is Cory,

558
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,480
So I don't know. By the
way, Paul is confirmed this is the

559
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:50,800
correct version, not the remix.
I was wrong. What's that, Shane?

560
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,880
Well, when you're talking about sampling
and course progression and everything else that

561
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,679
bridges, where's the hook come in? Oh? The oka is coming up?

562
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,840
I think the hook is coming up, Shannon. That's the part where

563
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:09,360
he says, what's up with the
youth? Okay, the lago? All

564
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,199
right? The youth? What's up
with the youth? What's up with the

565
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:23,480
youth? What's up with the youth? What's up with you with youth?

566
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:29,960
What's up with the youth? What's
up with the youth? What's up with

567
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:35,000
youth? Shannon? Well, what's
uh? I can almost hear the song.

568
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,719
That's an original composition by Corey Feldman. Shannon, how dare you but

569
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:46,920
the beat the reckless? Uh?
Do you know where the beat is from?

570
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:54,480
On? What's up? You?
Thankin's bad? What's up? Who's

571
00:41:54,519 --> 00:42:00,519
bad? Michael Jackson? Oh,
Michael Jackson bad by Michael Jackson. Right,

572
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:04,480
Well, that would make sense that
Corey Feldman idolized Michael Jackson. Okay,

573
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,199
So I don't know this stuff.
I don't I don't have cable,

574
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:09,519
I don't read the paper, right, listen to the radio stuff? Huh,

575
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:19,079
don't know? That's where I get
my rapa hear that Corey Feldman,

576
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:22,800
he was spitting some rhymes in that
part. Did you know that he could

577
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,880
rap? No? No, no
mean either from listening to that, he

578
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,239
clearly cannot. No. I can
do a better job than that. Yeah,

579
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:42,079
go ahead, go ahead, spit
some bars you what's up with you?

580
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:46,239
Spit some bars about what's up with
the youth? Shannon? You can

581
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:53,519
do it? What's up with the
youth? Could you gotta learn the freestyle?

582
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:59,679
Shannon? You mean like your mimics, your impressions, my impressions,

583
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:04,320
that's a completely different subject. Police
is doing impression of somebody. My impressions

584
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,360
are masterful, they are thank you. Uh huh, I know point the

585
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:15,760
young people say that right, reckless
on point. He's dozing off on the

586
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,920
loved state. What Hey, that
was years ago. Hey, we don't

587
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,360
bring that out. That was years
ago. There's a different time of my

588
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,199
life. Shannon. Well, now
you've done it. Now I'm going home.

589
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,280
I'm going to the next gig.
Yes, all right, Shannon,

590
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:37,239
by bye bye. She never did
tell us beef. Now you get all

591
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,440
you're beefing with chipping Now now she's
off the phone, y'all got beef.

592
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,960
Y'all is beefing, beefing. I
like to say it with a deep voice,

593
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,320
beefing. Police in the chat room
says, this is like the waiting

594
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,519
room in purgatory. Oh, purgatory. That's where don Imus is. As

595
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:58,159
we as we learned recently, Isaac
Banks says Shannon in the eighties. Eighties

596
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:02,039
movie of stand By Me was Will
Wheaton aka Gordon. I don't remember if

597
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:06,719
Will Wheaton is one of the names
that Shannon mentioned. I was too busy

598
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,719
jamming out to What's Up with the
Youth by the great Corey Feldman. So

599
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:14,039
yeah, so do you have to
It's almost the top of the hour.

600
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:15,119
Do you have to go? It's
time to wrap it up. We want

601
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:21,199
to make me at least yeah.
We want to make sure before you go

602
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,599
that we plug everything. So where
are you gonna be tonight? Tonight?

603
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:30,440
I am at SNHU. Tomorrow,
I'm at the hop not hope to see

604
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,840
you there, everybody. It's gonna
be fun. Yes, yes, I

605
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:38,440
don't exactly think you've seen me.
DJ sounds like twenty twenty one and I

606
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,599
had a Windows laptop. Oh oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

607
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:45,440
that's right, that's right, You're
right. Yeah, yeah, guys.

608
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,280
And then every Thursday Murphy's Tap Room. Yep, it's a wild one.

609
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:54,320
Yep, yep. Five dollar green
tea shots, two dollar bud Lights,

610
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,599
five dollars Cheetos, five dollars Cheetos, Chitos, Oh, Titos. I

611
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:04,760
thought I said Cheetos. Yeah,
unfortunately, else ts. That'd be fun

612
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,880
if you could get like, well, no, actually five dollars for a

613
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:12,559
bag of Cheetos would be expensive,
but Titos. That's good. It's great

614
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:15,639
for me, very good. And
where should people go online to follow you?

615
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:22,400
Instagram at dj R E k L
s s dj reckless very good,

616
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:25,639
and you have, but you have
a separate one for reckless university. Correct

617
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,039
say it's it's literally reckless university type
practis university in the sound into the bar

618
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:34,440
and there it is. All right, very good, very good, Well,

619
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,000
thank you, thank you for coming
in. I'm gonna get to a

620
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,519
break and we'll let you scoot.
I think I'm gonna play What's Up with

621
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:44,599
the Youth? Uninterrupted by Corey Feldman
because look, it's uh, the guy's

622
00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:45,880
got a show coming up in the
area, so it might as well.

623
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,599
Big show, masks. It's gonna
sell out all right, DJ Reckless,

624
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,320
thank you so much. Give give
this a listen, and then we'll show

625
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,239
some love to our sponsors and then
we'll be back with more Matt Connerton Unleashed,

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don Matzille Gilly. Welcome back everybody, as we are into our number two

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numerow dose of Matt Connerton Unleashed and
we are live from the studios of w

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m n H ninety five point three
FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire.

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And it is a glorious day outside
in Manchester, also on Comcast Channel

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six if you're in Manchester, and
hello to all of our online listeners across

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the nation and around the globe.
You can go to my website Matt Connerton

634
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,000
dot com for all of your live
streaming options, social media links, contact

635
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info, show archives, etcetera,
etcetera. Today is Friday, September twenty

636
00:47:21,039 --> 00:47:23,599
second, twenty twenty three. My
favorite day of the week here, it's

637
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:28,199
my long day at WMNH and I
do love it so not only am I

638
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,840
on this show but of course tonight
I'll be on Retro Spectrum Radio with Paulyc

639
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:36,599
as we do every Friday night right
here from WMH ninety five point three FM,

640
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:38,960
and tonight we will be joined by
Dan Randall of Dan Randall and the

641
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:43,440
Randletts, making a return to the
show for this evening, so looking forward

642
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,800
to that as well. That'll be
really cool. Thank you again to DJ

643
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,039
Reckless for joining us during the first
hour, and I do want to remind

644
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:53,920
you that tomorrow night, DJ Reckless
will be Djane at the Hopknot from nine

645
00:47:53,960 --> 00:48:00,239
pm to midnight as the Hopnot our
amazing sponsors they celebrate their their four the

646
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,119
birthday, and so proud of them
and so proud to have them as a

647
00:48:04,119 --> 00:48:07,840
sponsor and to have that association.
It's a wonderful thing. They've got those

648
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,480
delicious gourmet pretzels, they have an
assortment of craft beer. They've also got

649
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:14,559
stuff going on during the day tomorrow. I would be remiss if I didn't

650
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:20,000
mention that too. They've got some
great musicians. Tomorrow one pm they have

651
00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:23,639
Matt Litzinger will be performing live.
At three pm they have Jasmine Man,

652
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:28,159
and then at four pm they have
michaela Horn. So they've got a few

653
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:30,000
live performers tomorrow, and then they're
going to close from five to eight for

654
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:34,199
a few hours to get ready for
the evening, and then they'll be reopening

655
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,000
at eight pm for a dance party
with big gay events and a set from

656
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:43,920
DJ Reckless from nine pm to midnight. That is all happening tomorrow night at

657
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,679
the hop Knot. So Jenny and
I will be there at some point and

658
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:52,599
we'd love to love to meet you
if you want to come on down enjoy

659
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:57,519
some delicious gourmet pretzels and some craft
beer, and wish the hop Knot a

660
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:00,159
happy birthday. Also, if you're
just joining us, just a couple of

661
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:06,960
notes about today's show for anyone who's
puzzled, if you're at all confused.

662
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,480
We did have a musical guest stop
plan for today, the duo Crooked Cash.

663
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:15,800
We're going to be making the return
of the show today, but one

664
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,039
of the guys reached out to Jenny
first thing this morning to let her know

665
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:22,719
that he had a family emergency.
So hopefully everything's okay. Completely understandable,

666
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,880
of course, so we will rebook
them. I'm sure Jenny will rebook those

667
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,199
guys for another day, but I
hope everything is okay. They're very talented

668
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,760
musicians but also a couple of really
good guys too. I really enjoyed meeting

669
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,480
them the last time that they were
here, so but so we will have

670
00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:42,800
them on in the future, I
promise. Also, we don't have Eric

671
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,119
Pilter's classic film review. We're going
to have that on Monday instead. Eric

672
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:51,559
has been suffering through an internet outage. Apparently in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

673
00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:55,920
Some city workers accidentally cut a line
that they shouldn't have or something that it

674
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,880
knocked out the internet in Eric's neighborhood. So he's been kind of dead in

675
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,800
the water as far as getting the
film review together. So he's gonna work

676
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,519
on it this weekend and we will
have that on Monday. But in the

677
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:15,559
meantime, we have lots to discuss. Let's see and actually let me refresh

678
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:21,119
the Facebook here will. I do
want to say helload everybody in the Facebook

679
00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:22,880
live chat. And speaking of chat, by the way, too, I

680
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:30,320
did mention on the show yesterday and
I did take Paul C's suggestion, so

681
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:36,119
you can join the Connor Tones if
you go to Matt Connerton dot com slash

682
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:39,559
tones. It's not anything you have
to pay for. It's totally free.

683
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,920
But it's sort of an unofficial club
that you can become a member of.

684
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:50,159
Just you'll have to put in your
email address and assign yourself a password to

685
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,679
enter. But kind of like a
Facebook group. But you can go in

686
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,079
there and post stuff, but maybe
you want to keep it away from social

687
00:50:57,079 --> 00:51:00,360
media, something a little bit more
exclusive. I mean, in theory anyone

688
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,800
can join, but it'll be you
know, it's it's behind uh uh,

689
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,320
the the wall there on the Matt
Connerton unleashed Facebook page in a sense,

690
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:14,119
so you know, we won't allow
anything in there that is either pornographic or

691
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:16,480
hate speech. Other than that,
though, you can go in there and

692
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:21,800
pretty much you know, no restrictions
on language or anything like that. And

693
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,960
uh, if you want to go
in there and maybe you have some dialogue

694
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:30,480
or anything that maybe is not you
don't feel quite as comfortable doing on social

695
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,519
media, you can do that.
You can post whatever you want in there,

696
00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:37,199
if you have ideas for the show, suggestions, subjects, you want

697
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,360
to fact check something, whatever it
is. You know, you can go

698
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,599
in there and post whatever you want. Really, but uh, and and

699
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:49,480
there will be some additional content in
there that is exclusive to that page in

700
00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:52,079
the future, but right now it's
just basically a basic forum that is set

701
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:57,199
up. But but yeah, just
go to Matt Connerton dot com slash tones

702
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,199
and you can join. You can
be one of the Connor Tones. And

703
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,199
thank you again to police for making
that suggestion. I do love it.

704
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,079
Let's see, we'll say, I'll
let everybody in the Facebook lave chat.

705
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:10,280
We'll see who we have in here. Oh, hello to Carrol Zowarrowitz who

706
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:15,679
joins us. Also Isaac Banks,
whom you might recall. He's from Greensboro,

707
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:21,280
North Carolina. He says, ri
ip Corey Hame while he died a

708
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,719
number of years ago. And the
oh, there were two seasons of the

709
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,960
Two Corries. Oh so I had
the name right. The reality show that

710
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,400
Corey Haman Corey Feldman did it was
the Two Corries. Isaac Banks also said

711
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,639
hashtag Matt Connerton, Corey Feldman,
and Corey Hame were in Michael Damien's video

712
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,239
of rock on Oh Yes, Yes, And I believe we've played that on

713
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,280
retro Spectrum Radio with policy. I
believe Paul played that song one week.

714
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,480
I don't remember what the subject was, but I believe that song was played

715
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:59,239
policy of course in the is in
the Facebook lave chat and encouraging me to

716
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:06,159
crank up the What's Up with the
Youth by Corey Feldman. Melanie implored me

717
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:08,719
to stop answering the phone. No, no, no, Isaac Banks says,

718
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:15,440
hashtag DJ Reckless. You can check
out is Heidi Lenhart Facebook live page?

719
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,639
Well a suggestion there for DJ Reckless, the Heidi Lenhart Facebook like page.

720
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:27,679
I'm not sure who Heidi Lenhurt is. Let's see. Jay fed joins

721
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,960
us in the Facebook live chat,
also from the Great State of Vermont.

722
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,079
Hello, Isaac Banks, says Shannon
in the eighties move Oh I read that

723
00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:38,880
already. Sorry, never mind,
all right, Paulice says, referring to

724
00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:45,000
the song. Well, we were
playing earlier while Shannon was on the line.

725
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:47,360
This is what happens when you're waiting
in line for the waiting room.

726
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,159
When you're in there, it's just
it's just Corey. It's Corey Feldman,

727
00:53:53,159 --> 00:54:01,199
little boy. Let's see ye.
And we talked about two briefly. Paul

728
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,559
mentioned when he called in that Corey
Feldman is going to be doing a speaking

729
00:54:06,639 --> 00:54:10,039
engagement that our friend Dan Randall of
Dan Randall and the Randletts will be attending,

730
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:15,320
and Paul said regarding that, wtf
could he possibly talk about for three

731
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,079
hours that wouldn't make people run for
their lives? Yeah, I don't know.

732
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:22,840
I mean, I've seen I've seen
over the years some interviews with Corey

733
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:29,960
Feldman, and based on the interviews
that I've seen of him and also his

734
00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:31,480
you know, he's made appearances on
The Howard Stern Show over the years and

735
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:37,920
whatnot, based on that, I
could not imagine paying money to actually hear

736
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:43,000
him talk and give some sort of
presentation. I honestly cannot imagine it.

737
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,280
Miriam Banish in the chat room says, is this the song that never ends?

738
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,880
L ol? Referring of course,
to What's Up with the Youth by

739
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,320
Corey Feldman, which I did play
earlier. Actually, Miriam, it's funny.

740
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:55,719
The song I think is only about
three minutes long, maybe three and

741
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,719
a half at the most, but
it does feel like it goes on and

742
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,920
on and on and on and on. Yeah, So I understand everything's relative,

743
00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:08,880
but I understand what you're saying.
Oh, Isaac Banks says, good

744
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:15,159
afternoon, Tammy Cochrane, how are
you doing my love? Oh? Isaac

745
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:20,320
and Tammy Cochrane. Wow, that
is scandalous. Isaac Banks also says hashtag

746
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:25,119
Matt Connerton. Heidi Lenhart is a
actress and singer from the TV show.

747
00:55:25,559 --> 00:55:31,639
She did a band of California Dreams
on NBC after Saved by the Bell on

748
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:37,480
NBC. Okay, I thought the
name was vaguely familiar, but I really

749
00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:40,400
couldn't be sure. Six zo three
two five six seven is a studio line

750
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,840
if you would like to join us
today six three two five six seven.

751
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:49,920
We do have some political news to
get to, but this is just one

752
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:55,679
other thing. Regarding yesterday's show,
I want to correct something that I said

753
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,800
that I later realized was kind of
ridiculous, but not anything political. It

754
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:06,559
has to do with a comment I
made regarding music. So we had a

755
00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:10,239
great guest yesterday, Rick Perry from
the great State of Texas. In fact,

756
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:15,920
I would say that Rick Perry from
the band Iron Jaw, probably the

757
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:22,000
second most famous Rick Perry from the
State of Texas. He joined us first

758
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,119
via Skype, and then Skype became
an issue, so then via phone.

759
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,000
But I love that band Iron Jaw, what a great band. Well,

760
00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:30,079
you'll you'll be hearing more of them
on the show in the future. But

761
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,920
you know, they've got kind of
a they've got a sound where you know

762
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,400
you can hear their influences. Definitely
Judas Priest, Iron Maiden bands like that,

763
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:40,119
and I think it was so,
you know, we talked a little

764
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:44,599
bit about that. Of course,
we talked about influences. And then Shannon,

765
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,599
this was because of a Shannon called
Shannon happened to call afterward, and

766
00:56:46,639 --> 00:56:51,119
I don't remember how the subject came
up, but I assume it had to

767
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:55,079
do with my conversation with Rick Perry. Shannon said something about Bruce Dickinson and

768
00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,719
how in the nineties Bruce Dickinson had
left Iron Maiden and did some solo material

769
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,519
and the comment that I made that
I realized later was so absurd, and

770
00:57:05,559 --> 00:57:08,320
I just want to correct myself.
I said something about, Yeah, I

771
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:14,000
was talking about Bruce Dickinson's solo material. I think he did maybe three albums

772
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:16,559
and then went back to Iron Maiden. Three solo albums, maybe only two,

773
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:21,360
No, I think there were three, and then and then he went

774
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,480
back to Iron Maiden. But the
comment that I made was I said,

775
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:27,719
yeah, Bruce Dickinson's solo stuff sounds
a lot like Iron Maiden, so if

776
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:30,719
you like Iron Maiden, you'd probably
like his solo stuff. But a specific

777
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,960
song came up in the conversation.
It was a song Tattooed Millionaire. Shannon

778
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,840
mentioned it and then just for the
hell of it, last night, late

779
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,079
last night, I was like,
you know, I haven't heard that song

780
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:45,679
in so long, and I always
really loved that song. So I played

781
00:57:45,679 --> 00:57:52,039
it and as I'm listening to it, I realized, this song doesn't sound

782
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:55,559
anything like Iron Maiden. And that's
what I realized. I'd made a completely

783
00:57:55,639 --> 00:58:00,639
ridiculous comment. Now, granted I
didn't say that all of Bruce Dickens solo

784
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:07,679
material sounds like Iron Maiden, but
to imply that that's basically what Bruce Dickinson's

785
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:13,480
solo material is, that's not accurate. Some of his solo material certainly sounded

786
00:58:13,519 --> 00:58:17,199
like Iron Maiden, but the song
Tattooed Millionaire sounds nothing like Iron Maiden.

787
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,119
And when I realized that I hadn't
listened to it in so long, I

788
00:58:21,159 --> 00:58:23,559
just I felt ridiculous. I mean, this does not sound, if anything,

789
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:25,239
this song. I'm just gonna play
a little bit of it. I'm

790
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:29,199
not gonna play the little thing,
but if anything, at least the verses

791
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,519
Bruce Dickinson, the way he sings, he actually sounds like Brian Johnson from

792
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:38,480
ac DC and on this particular song, which is very un Bruce Dickinson like,

793
00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:43,360
but nothing about this sounds like Iron
Maiden. And I'm listening to the

794
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,679
song because I always loved this song
and I hadn't heard it in so long,

795
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:49,280
And then I'm like, I can't
believe I made that comment about how

796
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,159
his solo stuff sounded like Iron Maiden. There's nothing here. Let's listen to

797
00:58:52,239 --> 00:59:16,840
this already that sounds nothing like Iron
Maiden right now. If you didn't know

798
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,880
who that was and you'd never heard
that song before, and I said,

799
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,519
who do you think this is,
what would you say? You would say

800
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:27,519
Brian Johnson era ac DC, Right, that's what that sounds like. Doesn't

801
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:42,199
sound anything like Iron Maiden. I
do love the song. Maybe I'll play

802
00:59:42,199 --> 00:59:44,199
the whole thing at the end of
the show today. Maybe that'll be our

803
00:59:44,239 --> 00:59:46,559
closer anyway, So I was listening
to that last night and I'm going,

804
00:59:46,679 --> 00:59:50,760
I can't believe I made that comment
that his solo material sounds like Iron Maiden.

805
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,480
That's clearly not that doesn't sound like
Iron Maiden. Like I said,

806
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,559
if I played that for you and
you didn't know, you would think it

807
00:59:55,599 --> 00:59:59,280
was a CDC. Right, If
you'd never heard that song before in your

808
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,639
life, you wouldn't be sitting there
going, yeah, oh that sounds like

809
01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:04,440
Iron Maiden? Is that is that
Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden? You would

810
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,159
never think that. So anyway,
I wanted to correct that, So maya

811
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:10,559
culpa, and Bruce Dickinson, if
you happen to be listening, I apologize

812
01:00:10,599 --> 01:00:15,320
if I if you in any way
felt that I was dismissive of your solo

813
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:20,480
material saying that it was just,
you know, a bargain a bargain version

814
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:24,000
of Iron Maiden. That's not what
I meant to imply. Or maybe I

815
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,679
did mean to imply it in the
moment, but then I realized later how

816
01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:34,360
stupid that was. All right,
we'll get into some more serious matters in

817
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,840
a moment, but let me give
the studio line again. Six zero three

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two five zero six zero seven six
three two five zero six O seven.

819
01:00:42,519 --> 01:00:46,679
My friends, Bob Menendez a name
that you might have been hearing today.

820
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:53,079
If you have been paying attention to
the news Senator Bob Menendez of the Great

821
01:00:53,119 --> 01:01:00,800
State of New Jersey when I heard
his name today, because he's in a

822
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,599
bit of trouble. You know,
when I heard his name today, you

823
01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:05,760
know what I was reminded of,
the first thing that I was reminded of.

824
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:10,400
I was reminded of the year twenty
seventeen when this show, well not

825
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:15,280
this show, but this version of
the show that airs here on WMH ninety

826
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:21,440
five point three FM, was in
its relative infancy, and I was talking

827
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,360
about Bob Menendez. See, I
have a really good memory for details about

828
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:31,519
some things. And as soon as
this story broke today about Bob Menendez and

829
01:01:31,559 --> 01:01:35,199
the ethics trouble that he's in,
and he looks like he's really in it

830
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,920
this time, the first thing I
thought of was I remembered in twenty seventeen

831
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:45,440
talking about the ethics trouble that he
was in then. And I remembered it

832
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:51,719
was twenty seventeen, because I remembered
exactly where I was when I was talking

833
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,000
about it on the show, because
it wasn't in this room. Because when

834
01:01:55,039 --> 01:02:00,000
I first came to wm ANDH,
we were still doing we were still doing

835
01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:04,599
the live radio shows in a different
studio, in a smaller studio that's on

836
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:08,840
a different floor in this building.
And I remember being in that room talking

837
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:15,079
about Bob Menendez. And I even
remember I remember being in that room talking

838
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:21,719
about Bob Menendez and wondering out loud
to the audience, when is this guy

839
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,480
gonna end up in jail? Because
that's this is not the first time he's

840
01:02:24,519 --> 01:02:30,039
been in ethics trouble, and it
seems pretty serious. And of course he

841
01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:36,559
did not end up in jail.
He was tried. He was not acquitted.

842
01:02:36,599 --> 01:02:40,639
However he was. It was a
hung jury, and that's it.

843
01:02:40,679 --> 01:02:46,159
That's how we got away with it. Well, it's now twenty twenty three

844
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:50,119
and it's all caught up to him
in a big way. But that was

845
01:02:50,159 --> 01:02:52,519
the first thing I thought of us. I said, wow, I remember,

846
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:58,280
I remember talking about Bob Menendez in
twenty seventeen in the old studio I

847
01:02:59,159 --> 01:03:01,920
was, I remember vividly. It's
weird how I can remember certain details about

848
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:07,239
certain things that would seem insignificant,
and yet for some reason, they're just

849
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,079
seared in my mind. But I
think I did the whole, the entire

850
01:03:10,119 --> 01:03:15,639
show that day, the whole two
hours about Bob Menendez, but he's really

851
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:22,960
in trouble now. Politico has the
story up Egypt, guns and money and

852
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,920
oh, I'm sorry, Yeah,
Egypt, guns, money and power at

853
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:31,719
the center of Menendez indictment publicity.
I'm sorry publicly a critic of Cairo.

854
01:03:32,199 --> 01:03:43,800
Privately, prosecutors allege the senator used
his influence to benefit Egypt. Here's what's

855
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:49,920
going on if you've missed it.
The indictment of Senator Bob Menendez, Democrat

856
01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:54,960
of New Jersey today accuses one of
the most powerful senators shaping American foreign affairs

857
01:03:54,960 --> 01:04:01,039
of using his perch to enrich himself
and exploit the complication relationship between the United

858
01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:06,079
States and Egypt. It is a
story about guns, money, and power

859
01:04:06,239 --> 01:04:15,079
that strikes at the fraud sector of
American diplomacy. Menendez denies any wrongdoing,

860
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:21,280
saying prosecutors quote misrepresented the normal work
of a congressional office unquote and attacked him

861
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,360
and his wife. But if the
allegations are proven, they will represent a

862
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:31,599
damning account of how American foreign policy
an automatic toward an autocratic ally was compromised

863
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:38,159
for several years, for years for
venal reasons. By the way, it

864
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:45,159
is interesting is his allegation against the
prosecutors that they and again quoting, misrepresented

865
01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:50,559
the normal work of a congressional office. What's particularly interesting about that is that

866
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:58,320
one would not necessarily expect that the
quote unquote normal work of a congressional office

867
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:05,360
would involve gold bar literal bars of
gold and cash, cold cash, cold

868
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:10,280
heart cash. Again literally you know
the kind of cash you put in your

869
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,639
freezer so no one thinks to I
guess that's what people do. They put

870
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,360
cash in their freezer when they're trying
to hide it from the authorities, because

871
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,639
obviously, you know, if law
enforcement, if the FBI shows up for

872
01:05:21,679 --> 01:05:25,840
a raid, they would never think
to look in your freezer. It seems

873
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,840
cliche, but apparently that's what they
did. They were putting money in the

874
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:36,159
freezer tucket behind the ice cubes.
I guess, you know, tens of

875
01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:42,360
thousands of dollars. And I'm not
sure that. I mean, do most

876
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:47,000
Americans assume that that is the normal
work of a congressional office, as Menendez

877
01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:53,079
claims. I mean, not that
anyone should be surprised necessarily. I mean,

878
01:05:53,119 --> 01:05:57,400
I do think Americans generally assume that
our politicians, at least at that

879
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,679
level are somewhat corrupt, and I
think everyone new Menendez was corrupt. But

880
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,679
oh, don't get me wrong.
Of course, you know, he used

881
01:06:04,719 --> 01:06:09,679
to be afforded the presumption of innocence
until proven guilty. But this time it

882
01:06:09,719 --> 01:06:15,320
really does look like it's going to
stick. I remember in twenty seventeen again,

883
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:16,719
I think I spent an entire two
hours on it one day on the

884
01:06:16,719 --> 01:06:23,679
show, really digging into it,
and it seemed like, definitely he and

885
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:28,119
his wife had done something dirty,
and we're taking bribes. But the whole

886
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:32,679
scheme seemed a little bit convoluted in
a way that one could understand why a

887
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:38,800
jury might find it difficult to find
their way to a conclusion that he and

888
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,199
his wife. I don't remember if
she was actually on trial he was,

889
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,679
I don't remember if she was as
well, but she's been entangled in all

890
01:06:45,719 --> 01:06:48,159
of this with him right along.
It would seem I could see at the

891
01:06:48,199 --> 01:06:51,800
time how it might be difficult for
a jury to get to the conclusion beyond

892
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:59,079
a reasonable doubt that he had done
something illegal. Clearly he had done something

893
01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:05,199
unethical, but not everything that's unethical
is necessarily illegal. Certainly, especially in

894
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,920
politics, there are a lot of
things that are unethical that maybe should be

895
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:15,440
illegal, but they aren't necessarily so
so I could see at the time,

896
01:07:15,519 --> 01:07:19,639
how you know, it was easy
to understand why it was a hung jury.

897
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:24,519
But this is this is he's not
going to get away with it this

898
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:27,639
time. Let me put it that
way, all right, So continuing on

899
01:07:27,719 --> 01:07:30,760
again, this is the article from
Politico which explains it pretty well. Egypt

900
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:36,119
receives about one point three billion per
year in foreign military financing, but by

901
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:43,079
law, tranches of the AID are
conditioned upon Egypt's progress on human rights concerns,

902
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,639
as determined by the State Department.
Whether Foggy Bottom clears, the aid

903
01:07:46,719 --> 01:07:51,320
is often subject to a regular tug
of war between lawmakers, the advocacy community,

904
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:56,559
and the executive branch. Traditionally,
the State Department is honored request to

905
01:07:56,599 --> 01:08:00,960
delay grants and weapons sales from the
chair or the ranking member of the Senate

906
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:05,960
Committee. Menendez, who has served
as the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations

907
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:11,159
Committee since twenty eighteen, has often
been a public critic of the Egyptian government,

908
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:19,119
rapping the Trump administration for inviting Egyptian
president elcc abdel Fatah LCC If I'm

909
01:08:19,119 --> 01:08:25,079
saying that correctly, for a state
visit in twenty nineteen and pressing then Secretary

910
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:30,359
of State Mike Pompeio to raise human
rights concerns with the leader, But federal

911
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:35,399
prosecutors claim Menendez was playing a different
role behind the scenes. This is where

912
01:08:35,399 --> 01:08:39,960
it gets. This is where it
gets a little, uh, crimey.

913
01:08:40,079 --> 01:08:43,439
Is that a word? Crimey?
Not grimy? Crimey? I suppose he

914
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:48,039
could say grimy. In an indictment
published Friday today, this just happened today.

915
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:51,359
This is breaking news almost. I
mean it's a few hours old.

916
01:08:51,479 --> 01:09:01,439
But prosecutors claim that Menendez accepted money, a luxury car, and gifts including

917
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:10,399
gold, from three New Jersey businessmen
in return for helping them and Egypt's repressive

918
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:16,359
regime. Prosecutors also claimed the New
Jersey Democrat gave sensitive information about US diplomats

919
01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:23,279
and Cairo quote that secretly aided the
government of Egypt, and improperly advised and

920
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:30,199
pressured unquote a US agricultural official to
safeguard a contract for one of the businessmen

921
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,119
to be the exclusive purveyor of halal
meat to Egypt. According to the indictment,

922
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:44,520
let me just say this, anytime
you've got meat involved, there's something

923
01:09:45,079 --> 01:09:53,560
not right. Here. That's a
long standing I learned that from watching NYPD

924
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:58,079
Blue or something. I don't know. It's an old Younger listeners are like,

925
01:09:58,119 --> 01:10:00,239
what, what are you even talking
about? Law and order? That

926
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:02,079
would be a more contemporary reference.
Even though that show has been on for

927
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:05,560
decades, it still exists, I
think, right, I don't really watch

928
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:12,439
much TV. Allegedly, Menendez,
starting in mid twenty eighteen, privately maintained

929
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:17,600
close relations with Egyptian officials and businesspeople
and readily shared sensitive information with his associates

930
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:25,159
about US policy toward Cairo. In
May twenty eighteen, Menendez allegedly disclosed to

931
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:29,199
Hannah, that's one of the businessmen
at a private dinner that a US government

932
01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:32,560
ban on sales of small arms and
ammunition to Egypt has been lifted, which

933
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:40,800
Hannah passed on to the Egyptian official. Later that month, Menendez allegedly ghost

934
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:46,119
wrote Cairo's lobbying pitch to other US
senators seeking support for the release of three

935
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:50,479
hundred million dollars in USA to Egypt. In July, after meeting with Egyptian

936
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:56,640
military officials, Menendez allegedly had his
wife Nadine, tell Hannah that he was

937
01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:04,439
signing off on the sale of forty
six thousand target practice rounds and ten thousand

938
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:11,960
rounds of tank ammunition worth ninety nine
million dollars. By the way this goes

939
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,520
on, we're going to continue it. But I'm just I'm wondering a rhetorical

940
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,119
question. You don't have to answer
you the audience, But is anybody other

941
01:11:20,199 --> 01:11:26,840
than myself wondering at this point?
How did he ever believe he would get

942
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:33,560
away with all of this? Did
he assume that everyone is so dirty that

943
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:40,920
everyone does it? And why would
he be any different? Is it arrogance?

944
01:11:41,039 --> 01:11:45,680
Is it delusions of grandeur or some
form of mental illness that makes someone

945
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:50,800
believe that they can do all of
this and no one's going to catch on,

946
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:58,079
and no one's going to investigate after
he already in twenty seventeen narrowly avoided

947
01:11:58,279 --> 01:12:08,239
being convicted and sent to prison.
So Menendez allegedly said in a text to

948
01:12:08,399 --> 01:12:15,399
Nadine, which she forwarded Dahnah quote, note these tank rounds are for tanks

949
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,520
they have had for many years.
They are using these in the Sinai for

950
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:26,520
the counter terrorism campaign unquote. The
State Department two months later announced it had

951
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:32,159
approved the sale of the package of
General Dynamics made high explosive and armor piercing

952
01:12:32,279 --> 01:12:36,920
rounds to help Cairo fight Islamic State
militants and the target rounds to train M

953
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:44,640
one Abrams tank crews. Adrian Watson, the White House National Security Council spokesperson,

954
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:48,840
said no comment when contacted for this
story. Spokespersons for the State Department

955
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:58,640
did not immediately respond to requests for
comment. Egypt's ambassador in Washington also said

956
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:04,000
no comment. Menendez is also accused
of intervening in Egyptian diplomatic entanglements and pushing

957
01:13:04,039 --> 01:13:09,760
for the US to put its finger
on the scales for Cairo after taking a

958
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:15,520
meeting with an Egyptian official dubbed the
General. Prosecutors alleged Menendez waded into a

959
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:21,159
long standing diplomatic dispute between Egypt,
Sudan, and Ethiopia over access to the

960
01:13:21,239 --> 01:13:30,479
Nile River and a large Ethiopian dam
project near the river's source waters. Oh,

961
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,359
by the way, side note,
Jfed just said in the chat,

962
01:13:33,399 --> 01:13:35,800
I hate to tell you, Matt, but I looked it up and there

963
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:45,399
is no internet outage in Eric Pilcher's
town. But wait a second. JFED

964
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,720
wanted to be the new film reviewer. So he has a motive for saying

965
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:54,560
something like that, I don't know
who to trust anymore. I don't know

966
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,520
who to trust. I mean,
I know who not to trust, Bob

967
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:05,880
Menendez. The construction of the Grand
Ethiopian Renaissance Dam has long been a top

968
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:12,479
foreign priority for Egypt, as Cairo
depends on unfettered water flows from the Nile

969
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,520
to sustain its population, which is
almost entirely concentrated along the rivers Delta and

970
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:23,439
Banks. Writing in April, Jaft
says, I blame Bruce. I do

971
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:28,479
as well. Writing in April twenty
twenty two, then Secretary Stephen Manuchin in

972
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,840
Pompeo to express concerns over quote stalled
negotiations between Egypt, Ethiopia, and the

973
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:40,319
Sudan over the dam. Menendez called
on the administration to quote significantly increased the

974
01:14:40,319 --> 01:14:45,880
State departments engagement on negotiations around the
dam. According to the indictment, Menendez

975
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:51,479
in February twenty eighteen reclaimed his post
as the Top panel's top democrat, just

976
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:58,199
days after the Justice Department dropped different
corruption charges against him. Okay, so

977
01:14:58,199 --> 01:15:00,800
those were the twenty seventeen charges.
February of twenty eighteen, the charges were

978
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:06,520
finally dropped after the hungjury and all
of that. At that time, Menendez

979
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:14,039
was accused of intervening in a Dominican
post contract dispute to benefit a Florida ophthalmologist

980
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,760
and a businessperson who had given Menendez
a large campaign donations. Oh, that

981
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,560
part I remembered wrong. And by
the way, I'm not saying this would

982
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,239
be funny. This literally is true. It's not a joke. I thought

983
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:30,880
it was. I thought it was
a dentist Menendez was. There was a

984
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,479
part of this whole scam Menendez was
running in twenty seventeen. It was actually

985
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:40,720
an optimologist, an eye doctor.
Menendez voluntarily stepped back from the job in

986
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:45,199
twenty fifteen after he was charged,
with an understanding from then Senate Minority Leader

987
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:49,520
Harry Reid that he would be reinstated
if cleared of charges. It's unclear if

988
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,520
Menendez will step back from his role
this time around, or if he did,

989
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,439
who would temporarily replace him as chair. By the way, I believe

990
01:15:56,439 --> 01:16:00,000
he already stepped down as chair,
so that must have happened after this was

991
01:16:00,039 --> 01:16:03,199
published. So again, this might
not be quite up to the minute,

992
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:12,159
but it's a really good explainer,
although it doesn't get into the gold bars

993
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:15,560
part in this article. Now,
something related to this so that I happened

994
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,960
to see and I didn't get a
chance to preread this, but this popped

995
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:25,520
up on media. How will MSNBC
handle its Menendez family conflict of interest?

996
01:16:26,279 --> 01:16:29,560
I don't know what this part's about, but you know I'm interested in all

997
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,640
things media, So let's look at
this. It says here Senate Foreign Relations

998
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:36,560
Committee Chairman Bob Menendez was indicted on
bribery charges for alleged crimes committed as part

999
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,399
of a scheme involving his wife,
Nadine, the Egyptian government, and three

1000
01:16:40,399 --> 01:16:44,720
New Jersey businessmen. Prosecutors for the
US Attorney's Office in the Southern District of

1001
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,640
New York charged Menendez with having quote
promised to and did use his influence and

1002
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:55,319
power and breach his official duty in
ways that benefited the government of Egypt unquote.

1003
01:16:59,279 --> 01:17:04,439
Besides the Nndez clan itself, Friday's
news could also be trouble for MSNBC,

1004
01:17:05,039 --> 01:17:11,960
the cable news network where Alisha Menendez, the forty year old daughter of

1005
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:19,359
Bob Menendez, hosts a weekend show
called American voices with Alisha Menendez awkward.

1006
01:17:23,239 --> 01:17:26,840
The most obvious question that comes to
mind is, quote, will MSNBC allow

1007
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,760
Menendez to address the scandal in any
way unquote. One might be quick to

1008
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,439
assume the answer is an easy no. But if CNN's handling of the Andrew

1009
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:40,399
Cuomo sexual misconduct cases any indication that
assumption can't be taken for granted. Let

1010
01:17:40,399 --> 01:17:45,680
me stop there for a moment,
because if I remember correctly, in the

1011
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:51,720
case of CNN Chris Cuomo, when
he was still there, he did not

1012
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:58,359
address his brother's sexual misconduct case,
but others on the network did, but

1013
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,439
Chris Cuomo did not on his show, which I thought was completely appropriate.

1014
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,039
By the way, I thought that
made sense for Chris Cuomo not to get

1015
01:18:04,079 --> 01:18:08,880
into it because it is his brother, So you wouldn't expect Chris Cuomo to

1016
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:14,079
be able to report on it objectively
in any way, and you know why

1017
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:16,840
even put him in that position.
From what I recall, I might not

1018
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:21,479
be remembering that exactly accurately, but
that's what I recall. It says here.

1019
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:26,119
In March twenty twenty one, after
the allegations against him first came to

1020
01:18:26,199 --> 01:18:30,760
light, CNN hosts Chris Cuomo opened
his show by acknowledging that he was quote

1021
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,399
aware of what's okay. This is
exactly what he said. He was aware

1022
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:38,359
of what's going on with my brother. Obviously I cannot cover it because he

1023
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,640
is my brother. Now, of
course CNN has to cover it. They

1024
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,479
have covered it extensively and they will
continue to do so. I've always cared

1025
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,840
very deeply about these issues and profoundly, so I just wanted to tell you

1026
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:53,119
that. Unquote again, I think
that's perfectly I mean, I have a

1027
01:18:53,119 --> 01:18:56,399
lot of other there are things about
Chris Cuomo that bother me, but not

1028
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:01,079
that that I thought was completely appropriate
at the time. But it says here

1029
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:06,720
the lines got blurrier from there.
That may it was discovered that Cuomo was

1030
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:11,079
advising Oh see, I forgot about
this part. I completely forgot this.

1031
01:19:11,079 --> 01:19:15,000
This is pretty important. Actually,
it was discovered that Cuomo was advising his

1032
01:19:15,119 --> 01:19:20,119
brother on how to handle the scandal. CNN called this inappropriate given his position,

1033
01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:24,920
but did not take any action to
discipline him. Eventually, it was

1034
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:29,039
revealed by the New York Attorney General's
Office that Chris Cuomo would use this position

1035
01:19:29,079 --> 01:19:31,800
atzy an end to gather intel and
possible accusers against his brother while working hand

1036
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:38,319
in hand with his staff. It
kind of goes on from there. But

1037
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:45,680
so now the question is how will
MSNBC handle this. And my I would

1038
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:51,800
I mean my suggestion and my thought
would be, either you simply don't I

1039
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:57,159
mean Alicia Alicia Menendez, she just
says a show that Arizon weekends, you

1040
01:19:57,159 --> 01:20:00,560
know, once a week on the
weekend. So she can only so many

1041
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,279
things in her limited a lotment of
time to begin with. So I would

1042
01:20:03,319 --> 01:20:06,880
say, have her either ignore that
there's always a million other stories, just

1043
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:13,119
don't cover obviously she's not going to
cover something involving her own parents, or

1044
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,920
have her address it similar to the
way that Chris Cuomo did and then move

1045
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,760
on from it. But that would
be my thought. But yes, but

1046
01:20:20,039 --> 01:20:24,920
Bob Menendez in a lot of trouble. Now. The one other thing,

1047
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,000
I do want to make sure that
we get in before we run out of

1048
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,680
time, because it's already almost twenty
minutes of And this is some breaking news.

1049
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:35,399
This is from the Hill dot com. Kevin McCarthy vows to strip Ukraine

1050
01:20:35,399 --> 01:20:45,520
money from Pentagon bill after a Marjorie
Taylor Green no vote. Now we'll look

1051
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,800
at the substance of the article in
a moment. But for anyone who hasn't

1052
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:53,439
been following, this been a hell
of a week for Kevin McCarthy House Speaker.

1053
01:20:54,319 --> 01:20:56,960
Looks like we're headed for a government
shut down at the end of the

1054
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:02,720
month. It looks like Kevin McCarthy
might get voted out by the You know

1055
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:11,760
these House Freedom members who are just
itching for a reason to what do they

1056
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:17,119
call that. There's a specific term, procedural term for a vote to remove.

1057
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,560
It's not a removal vote, though, there's another term. It escapes

1058
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,439
me, it'll come to me.
It might be here in the article.

1059
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:29,960
So he's got all kinds of trouble
while all of this is happening. Funding

1060
01:21:30,199 --> 01:21:32,560
to continue the effort, the war
effort in Ukraine, to continue to supply

1061
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:41,000
the Ukrainians with what they need that
hangs in the balance because the Republicans can't

1062
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:45,119
figure out how to how to get
this done with the budget. And by

1063
01:21:45,159 --> 01:21:48,239
the way, this is all after
McCarthy made certain promises. There was already

1064
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:53,319
a budget deal agreed to to avert
a debt default, which thank god,

1065
01:21:53,359 --> 01:21:58,119
we got through that. But now
McCarthy is in a position where if he

1066
01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:00,760
gives into the House Freedom Caucus.
He can't keep his word to the president

1067
01:22:02,039 --> 01:22:06,119
on that budget deal that they that
they passed, that they agreed to to

1068
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:11,279
raise the debt limit. I should
say, to be more precise, it's

1069
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:15,479
he's in a terrible position. Part
of me feels some sympathy for him,

1070
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,600
and part of me thinks, well, this is what you get, Kevin.

1071
01:22:21,039 --> 01:22:28,840
While all this is happening, you've
got Voladimir Zolenski visiting the United States,

1072
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:34,920
but Kevin McCarthy refused to have his
picture taken with him publicly. He

1073
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:41,119
did meet with Zelenski, which was
also a reversal because before McCarthy wasn't even

1074
01:22:41,119 --> 01:22:44,840
going to meet with Zelenski. Even
though Kevin McCarthy, and we all know

1075
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,279
Kevin McCarthy, you know, there's
nothing he says that actually means anything.

1076
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:53,600
I mean, look at January sixth. You know, he he condemned Trump

1077
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,000
after January sixth, and then next
thing, you know, he's does a

1078
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,560
complete reversal and he's going down tomorrow
ago and posing for a picture with him.

1079
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,840
He posed for a picture with Trump
right after January sixth, right not

1080
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:09,039
long after. But you know,
he says he says whatever he needs to

1081
01:23:09,039 --> 01:23:11,840
to try to survive, to get
through another day, as how speaker,

1082
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:15,039
because that's what matters to him above
all else. So he has said recently,

1083
01:23:15,159 --> 01:23:20,359
relatively recently, how important it is
to continue to support Ukraine, how

1084
01:23:20,399 --> 01:23:24,800
that is vital, vitally important,
and we do have an American interests there

1085
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,640
and that we must stay the course
with that. But now because he's at

1086
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:35,479
the mercy of people like Matt Gates
and Lauren Gropert Bobert, sorry, and

1087
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:42,960
even Marjorie Taylor Greene whom he seems
to have this alliance with, but she's

1088
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:48,279
making his life more difficult suddenly as
well. Now he's refusing to have his

1089
01:23:48,319 --> 01:23:54,479
picture taken with Zelenski, although he
did meet with Zelenski and somebody managed to

1090
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:59,520
get a picture on their phone.
So even though McCarthy, acting very cowardly

1091
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:04,920
refused used to have his picture publicly
taken with Voladimir Zelenski, somebody snapped a

1092
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:11,399
picture as they met privately. So
good, I'm glad. But now,

1093
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:16,000
oh McCarthy is hedging on support for
Ukraine. Now before we get to this

1094
01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:18,159
article, though, I have something
very important to say about this said,

1095
01:24:18,159 --> 01:24:23,800
I don't hear any anybody else pointing
out For those of you, Look,

1096
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,199
if you're a long time listener,
you know my position. I believe in

1097
01:24:26,239 --> 01:24:28,920
supporting Ukraine. I believe we have
to stand up to Putin, can't let

1098
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,079
Putin get away with this, and
so forth. However, I've also always

1099
01:24:32,079 --> 01:24:36,840
been sympathetic to some of the arguments
in the other direction, concerns about tensions

1100
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:41,920
with Russia, because nobody wants things
to escalate in a way that could be

1101
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,159
very bad for all of us,
and some other reasons too. I've been

1102
01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:50,760
sympathetic to those other arguments, and
but I have remained firm in my position

1103
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,880
ultimately that we must stay the course. But I would just like to say

1104
01:24:54,920 --> 01:25:00,840
this to the people who hear this. McCarthy is now saying he's going to

1105
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:08,359
vow he's now vowing to strip any
further support for Ukraine out of the budget,

1106
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:13,279
and we're going to effectively McCarthy is
now saying that's it, We're going

1107
01:25:13,319 --> 01:25:16,680
to abandon Ukraine. I would just
say to the people who think that that's

1108
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,920
a good idea. If you're someone
who you're on the other side of the

1109
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:27,359
issue, look, reasonable people can
disagree. I feel about the merits of

1110
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,680
us getting directly involved in this.
Again, I think we did the right

1111
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,000
thing. I support President Biden in
this, and all of the many,

1112
01:25:34,039 --> 01:25:39,359
many, not just Democrats, have
been pretty united in this. Republicans have

1113
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:44,239
not been. But I think a
majority of Republicans in the House and Senate

1114
01:25:45,239 --> 01:25:53,520
also support standing by Ukraine. And
that's great. But but some of the

1115
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:58,920
concerns, again, not all of
the concerns. Some of these Republicans who

1116
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,079
have pushed back on it, some
of them are just playing pro Russia.

1117
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:06,720
Let's just call it what it is. Reagan would be spinning in his grave.

1118
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:12,479
I have no doubt, but some
of them are sympathetic to Russia,

1119
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,600
and I think the reasons are obvious. But let's not even get into that.

1120
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,439
But I want to say to the
people who think that what McCarthy is

1121
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:24,880
doing is correct and they're happy about
this, because if you're if you're someone

1122
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,479
who doesn't think we should have ever
gotten involved in this to begin with,

1123
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:31,760
I'm talking to you. I want
to say to you those of you who

1124
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:36,079
feel that way, while I respect, well, I disagree with your position,

1125
01:26:36,119 --> 01:26:40,760
but I respect your position and I
understand and respect your concerns. But

1126
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:46,199
having said that, at this point, At this point, even if you

1127
01:26:46,319 --> 01:26:49,680
felt at the beginning of all this
that we should have stayed out of it,

1128
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:56,560
at this point, does it not
do more harm than good for us

1129
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:02,399
to walk away and abandon Ukraine after
we've all been so invested, literally invested

1130
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:10,760
in helping Ukraine try to fend off
Russia. Because even if your initial position

1131
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:15,359
was we shouldn't be doing this,
we've already done so much, have not

1132
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:20,439
we already gone too far to turn
back. Because even if you don't think

1133
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:24,000
we should have been a part of
this to begin with, now that we

1134
01:27:24,159 --> 01:27:30,600
have been for so long and so
much, won't it actually hurt America's national

1135
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:36,840
interests more for us to pull back
now and abandon Ukraine. Think about again,

1136
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:41,119
even if you're someone who disagreed with
us getting involved, think about how

1137
01:27:41,159 --> 01:27:45,239
it's going to look for us now
now that we already were involved, now

1138
01:27:45,279 --> 01:27:51,159
that we've been so involved, to
just walk away now, how does that

1139
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:53,960
make us look to the rest of
the world. And by the way,

1140
01:27:54,039 --> 01:27:56,880
look, if you're some sort of
neo isolation as I understanding, you don't

1141
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,079
care about how we look to the
rest of the world. And let's be

1142
01:27:59,119 --> 01:28:00,800
honest, there are a lot of
people who take that attitude too. They're

1143
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,199
the same people who think that we
shouldn't be a part of the UN because

1144
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:08,479
oh, we're America and we should
be on our own and not care what

1145
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:12,840
anybody thinks about us. But we
have to care what other people think about

1146
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,399
us, because we're all a part
of the world, and we have economic

1147
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,439
interests and national security interests to require
us to have somewhat of a positive relationship

1148
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:23,760
with at least some of the rest
of the world. So, but even

1149
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,880
if you feel that way, does
it not hurt us more at this point

1150
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,359
to walk away? Even if look
again, I'm talking to you, even

1151
01:28:31,399 --> 01:28:36,960
if you don't care at all about
Ukraine, even if you could not care

1152
01:28:38,079 --> 01:28:42,640
less about Ukraine, even if you're
one of those people who thinks that Ukraine

1153
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:46,720
got what they deserved and you believe
the Russian propaganda. Maybe maybe you're Tucker

1154
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:53,680
Carlson and you actually believe in and
promote the Russian propaganda. Right, even

1155
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:59,800
if you're that person. At this
stage of things, if we walk away

1156
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:04,680
now, isn't it going to be
even worse for us? Because it signals

1157
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:11,880
to putin If we walk away and
abandon them now, it signals to putin

1158
01:29:13,359 --> 01:29:16,960
Hey, just bleed us, bleed
us dry. We will lose patience,

1159
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:25,039
we will lose our solidarity with the
rest of NATO. You can wade us

1160
01:29:25,079 --> 01:29:29,279
out. You can wade us out. America is weak enough that you can

1161
01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:33,239
wait us out. And here's the
other thing. What does it say to

1162
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:40,760
Ji Jing Ping of China if we
walk away? Now? It says,

1163
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:45,359
hey, you want Taiwan, go
ahead. America might try to defend Taiwan

1164
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,880
for a little while, but in
the long run, nah, forget it.

1165
01:29:50,359 --> 01:29:55,520
That's what it says to him.
I'm telling you it is very dangerous.

1166
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:59,920
It is far more dangerous dangerous for
us to walk away than it is

1167
01:30:00,159 --> 01:30:03,199
just stick around, in my opinion. And Mike Doyle's on the line him,

1168
01:30:03,239 --> 01:30:06,239
Mike, hey, man, how's
it going. I'll be quick because

1169
01:30:06,239 --> 01:30:10,239
I know you're running out of time. Yeah. Hey, I can't remember

1170
01:30:10,279 --> 01:30:15,600
what your theory was on Afghanistan.
But isn't that the same theory? You

1171
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:19,800
know, all the time we put
into Afghanistan and money and years and deaths

1172
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:25,520
and et cetera, And you know, was it was it better to pull

1173
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,800
out or stay there? And well, I guess the same same theory as

1174
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:34,640
you're you're saying now, Well,
very very different situations in some ways though,

1175
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:39,560
because in Afghanistan we were directly and
like we weren't supporting, We weren't

1176
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:44,159
simply supporting. We were actually there
on the ground and fighting for twenty years.

1177
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:48,560
But my feeling with Afghanistan is,
well, it's not not really a

1178
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,560
binary choice of of getting out or
staying. I think I think that it

1179
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:58,479
was the right idea to get out, but I think it was done very

1180
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,840
very poorly, and I don't think
we should have necessarily gotten out completely.

1181
01:31:01,079 --> 01:31:04,479
I think we should have kept Bogram
Air Force Base. It didn't make any

1182
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:11,359
sense to me why we would give
that up, other than Biden was worried

1183
01:31:11,399 --> 01:31:14,880
about you know, well, then
it would look like we haven't really left.

1184
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,199
But I think we should have kept
maybe twenty five hundred troops there.

1185
01:31:17,399 --> 01:31:20,640
I think we should have lessened our
footprint there, but I think we should

1186
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:25,159
have kept a minimal presence and at
least held on to Bogram Air Force Base.

1187
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:29,439
And I was very critical of Again, I thought getting out was a

1188
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:32,800
great idea. Previous presidents had pledged
to get out and then didn't do it.

1189
01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:38,600
But I thought the way that it
was done was a disaster. I'm

1190
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,520
trying to remember some of the words
I used at the time. I think

1191
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:45,079
I recall saying it was buffoonery the
way it was handled, and uh,

1192
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:49,840
I was pretty critical and uh and
I still am. I'm still angry about

1193
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:54,399
it the way it was done.
Yeah. And the other point I wanted

1194
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:58,960
to make is a lot of a
lot of the both Republicans with Democrats that

1195
01:31:59,079 --> 01:32:02,680
want to continue to fund Ukraine.
I don't want to fund Ukraine or have

1196
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:09,520
a different strategy for funding Ukraine.
They're they're they're worried because a lot of

1197
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:13,600
a lot of the people nobody,
nobody else is helping. I guess is

1198
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,920
what you're saying, Like Poland just
said no more, we're done. Oh

1199
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:19,000
that's another given you. Yeah,
that's that's another thing that has me very

1200
01:32:19,039 --> 01:32:21,680
worried. Mike. By the way, and I had given Poland a lot

1201
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:27,199
of credit in the past, because
if you remember when when this first happened,

1202
01:32:27,279 --> 01:32:31,640
Poland really opened their arms for taking
in refugees from UH, both from

1203
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,960
Ukraine and from Russia, people who
are fleeing because they didn't want to get

1204
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:40,760
drafted. And and Poland was so
helpful and now all of a sudden,

1205
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:45,039
Poland is is basically walking away and
they're they're a member of NATO, and

1206
01:32:45,079 --> 01:32:47,720
it's like, uh, this is
not this is not good. I'm very

1207
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:53,600
worried that that we're just gonna walk
away all of us. Not just says

1208
01:32:54,199 --> 01:32:57,159
there's other countries. I was reading
about it. I can't remember who they

1209
01:32:57,199 --> 01:32:59,439
were, but I was they just
don't want to say it, you know,

1210
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,840
because they're barras. Yeah, but
Poland came out. Poland came out

1211
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:05,079
and said it. Yeah. And
the other argument, the other argument is

1212
01:33:05,119 --> 01:33:14,359
spending all of these billions of dollars
approaching trillions of dollars on Ukraine's border versus

1213
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,840
putting that kind of money into our
border, which obviously is becoming a little

1214
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:21,399
bit of a crisis with these cities
and you know, the homeless and all

1215
01:33:21,399 --> 01:33:26,880
that stuff. And so that's those
are the aguments I hear from from people

1216
01:33:27,039 --> 01:33:30,800
of why they don't want to they
don't want to continue to fund Ukraine.

1217
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,319
So I just wanted to throw that
in. Sure. Yeah, no,

1218
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:38,159
And like I said, I mean, I respect the concerns that people have

1219
01:33:38,359 --> 01:33:41,159
about it, but I really feel, well, what do you think,

1220
01:33:41,159 --> 01:33:45,840
Mike, I think that for us
to walk away now, regardless of how

1221
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,039
you felt about it when we first
got in, I think for us to

1222
01:33:48,079 --> 01:33:51,159
walk away now, I think it's
just too late, I think, and

1223
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:56,640
I think it emboldens Putin, and
I think it emboldens Xijing Ping if we

1224
01:33:56,720 --> 01:34:00,399
walk away now too, So that
that bodes that bodes what many people have

1225
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:06,399
been saying all along. Stop with
the increments to Ukraine and give them everything

1226
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:11,399
they need to win the war in
the next months or two months, and

1227
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,039
end, you know what I mean, and get their get their country back.

1228
01:34:14,399 --> 01:34:18,079
We're just we're you know, snippeting
in money here and money there.

1229
01:34:18,119 --> 01:34:21,359
Whenever they run low and they're running, you know, just stop it.

1230
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:26,079
Just end it go full for us, get in there, call NATO in,

1231
01:34:26,279 --> 01:34:29,399
say NATO, you're with us.
Let's just stop this. Well,

1232
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,399
but that's that's yeah, that's the
other argument, I know. But we

1233
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:36,760
do have to be. Something that
I do give the Biden administration credit for

1234
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:41,600
on this is I think it's I
think it makes sense to be cautious,

1235
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,039
especially in the early stages of this
because one thing that we all must remember,

1236
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:49,840
uh, is that we are dealing
with when you're talking about Russia,

1237
01:34:50,039 --> 01:34:54,760
the largest nuclear power in the country. They have even more nukes than us.

1238
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,079
Not of course, at a certain
point it doesn't even matter because it's

1239
01:34:58,119 --> 01:35:00,199
so much nukes, it's enough to
destroy the world multiple times over. But

1240
01:35:00,359 --> 01:35:03,840
so I think it. I think
it makes sense to be cautious. And

1241
01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:08,920
I know that for example, with
long range missiles, which I guess now

1242
01:35:09,399 --> 01:35:12,560
we are going to be sending them
long range missiles, but I remember that

1243
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:16,119
there was a concern earlier on that
what if we give them these and even

1244
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:20,640
if it happens by accidents, say, long range missiles are now being shot

1245
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:27,920
into Russia, directly into Russia by
Ukrainians, and then we're the ones who

1246
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,199
supplied them those missiles. Then someone, uh, you know, whether it

1247
01:35:31,199 --> 01:35:33,600
be Putin himself or one of his
advisors, might say, oh, look,

1248
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:38,199
the Americans are giving them long range
missiles that they're now using to attack

1249
01:35:38,279 --> 01:35:44,359
our cities inside Russia. Does that
cause an escalation? And so I think

1250
01:35:44,399 --> 01:35:47,279
it makes sense to be very cautious
and not just say here, we're just

1251
01:35:47,319 --> 01:35:51,239
going to give you everything. You
can't understand the other argument, though,

1252
01:35:51,319 --> 01:35:56,239
just get it done. Oh,
I understand it, I understand it.

1253
01:35:56,319 --> 01:36:00,880
But I but again, I do
worry about. There's a lot that can

1254
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:05,399
go wrong. Yeah, no,
oh absolutely. But if NATO all got

1255
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:11,239
together and said we're all in,
every country's gonna send their top forces,

1256
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,840
we're gonna end this once and for
all. Putin. So your choice,

1257
01:36:15,039 --> 01:36:16,920
We're gonna give you a week make
a decision, or we're coming in.

1258
01:36:17,079 --> 01:36:21,079
We're all coming in. We're gonna
protect Ukraine and we're gonna drive you back.

1259
01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:25,520
Done deal, you know, then
put the Then the onus is on

1260
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,960
him to make a call. You
know, is he is he that much

1261
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,399
of a dead one's death or does
he? Does he fear the threat that

1262
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:35,039
it's legit? And you know what
I mean? Just I don't know.

1263
01:36:35,199 --> 01:36:40,319
Just there there's all these different questions. So yeah, I mean, it's

1264
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,760
it's complicated stuff. But I wouldn't. I would not. I mean,

1265
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:48,520
if you're suggesting NATO just everybody starts
sending actual ground forces in that I would

1266
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,680
definitely oppose. I don't know,
it doesn't have to be ground, could

1267
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:56,640
be air, could be long range
missiles. I mean, just everybody just

1268
01:36:56,680 --> 01:37:00,159
say, finally we're in. We're
all in. This is NATO. I

1269
01:37:00,199 --> 01:37:01,640
know, it's not a country that
is in NATO. But we're going to

1270
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:09,359
protect them because you know whatever,
and just we're all coming in all together,

1271
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,439
Europe, Asia, anybody who's in
NATO, US, Canada, they're

1272
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,159
all coming Australia. I mean,
just stop the drip of money, money,

1273
01:37:17,199 --> 01:37:19,640
money, and some missiles, a
little few missiles here and a few

1274
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:24,199
missiles there. You know, this
thing's just lingering on. How long can

1275
01:37:24,279 --> 01:37:27,840
Russia last? I mean, they're
having kids fight now. They took their

1276
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,600
prisoners out of jails, they put
them on the front line. Somebody said

1277
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,920
they're starting up use women who want
to sign up. I mean, at

1278
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,880
one point, does Russia just you
know, say hey, all right enough,

1279
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:42,640
I can't go against thirty one other
countries that are in NATO, and

1280
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,560
and you know, so that's just
an argument. I hear of people saying

1281
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,119
that's why they don't want to send
any more money, because it's just a

1282
01:37:48,199 --> 01:37:51,479
drip, drip, drip versus let's
just end it one way or the other.

1283
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:56,159
Get in or get out, finish
it or get out. So that's

1284
01:37:56,159 --> 01:37:59,960
all I understand. I understand both
sides, and just it's a question.

1285
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,239
Yeah yeah, all right, Mike, Well yeah we are, we are

1286
01:38:02,279 --> 01:38:04,760
about out of time. But I
do, but I but I do appreciate

1287
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:08,399
the call in your thoughts. Thank
you. Yeah, have a good weekend,

1288
01:38:08,399 --> 01:38:12,199
all right, Mike, you two
take care bye bye. All right.

1289
01:38:12,239 --> 01:38:15,399
That was our friend Mike Doyle.
And yes, we are just about

1290
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,840
out of show, so we're gonna
wrap up. But yeah, I don't

1291
01:38:19,039 --> 01:38:21,720
but yeah, just for the record, just briefly, I don't. I

1292
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,520
understand the point that Mike's making,
but I don't. I don't agree with

1293
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:32,319
I would not, under any circumstances, support NATO directly confronting Russia over Ukraine

1294
01:38:32,359 --> 01:38:36,920
because that that could escalate into something
where, well, let's just be very

1295
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:41,920
blunt about it, where we all
end up dead. I'm not willing to

1296
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,319
take that risk. I'm not willing
to you know, I'm willing to support

1297
01:38:45,399 --> 01:38:47,920
Ukraine. I'm not willing to die
for Ukraine. Forgive me if I sound

1298
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,279
selfish, but no, and you
know, there might be something to it.

1299
01:38:51,319 --> 01:38:55,439
I mean, maybe Putin would back
down. Mike might be right.

1300
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:59,199
Maybe Putin would back down and say, wow, they're really serious. I

1301
01:38:59,239 --> 01:39:04,760
have no choice now, But maybe
he wouldn't. And uh, that could

1302
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,560
that could go bad very quickly.
All right, but we do have to

1303
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:12,560
go it is Friday, which means
I will be back tonight for retro Spectrum

1304
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,760
Radio with Paulice tonight from eight to
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1305
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:18,199
Randall and the ram Let's is going
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1306
01:39:18,239 --> 01:39:21,359
forward to that. I always love
my Friday nights here. So thank you

1307
01:39:21,399 --> 01:39:26,520
all. Thank you again to DJ
Reckless for joining us earlier. DJ Reckless

1308
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:30,520
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I think, well, uh yeah,

1313
01:39:46,039 --> 01:39:49,840
we'll leave you with this. I'm
gonna play Bruce Dickinson's Tattooed Millionaire since I

1314
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:54,920
was talking about it earlier to close
out the show, and uh, I

1315
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,159
will talk to y'all a little bit
later. I'll see you to night for

1316
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