WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:04.599 Really really interested in this, and I just have one quick question for you. 2 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:09.320 This has been the hell of a week based on what I've seen on 3 00:00:09.560 --> 00:00:15.320 X But what was the high point as far as you're concerned with the with 4 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:19.480 with with what happened this week and whatnot, apart from the fact that you 5 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:23.839 know you released it, which which thing really Yeah, I mean, this 6 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:30.719 is our biggest product release in quite a while, and I mean the sol 7 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:37.000 cyber truck is you know, probably the most revolutionary product. So I've for 8 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:44.840 to actually reach production and to deliver liver the first our production articles to people, 9 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:49.799 you know, which means has passed all of the regulatory tests and and 10 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:52.759 it is reliable and something, you know, something that can be out there 11 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:58.000 on the roads. Was was extremely difficult. I've often said that, you 12 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:03.719 know, prod prototypes are easy, production as hard. With a small team, 13 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:07.760 you can make a prototype of almost anything within maybe six months with one 14 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:14.200 hundred people, but to actually create a production system you need ten sort of 15 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:19.519 ten thousand people and two years or three years. But actually two or three 16 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:26.040 years most people can't even do that. So I may not know this, 17 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:33.280 but I take Tesla as working at the speed of thought, not not like 18 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:37.040 what everybody else does, you know, committees and whatnot. You guys seem 19 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:42.640 to be able to spot something that should be done, and maybe other people 20 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:45.480 have spotted it as well, but you actually get it done. And that's 21 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:51.159 where like self driving. I'm really I've driven it. I'm very impressed with 22 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:57.599 that. I did give one suggestion now, taking this the first time into 23 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:04.000 a great, big, giant parking garage, that winding dudead. I've asked 24 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:06.920 the guys whether or not there's this is something you can do about putting a 25 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:09.360 little like a bar on the bottom so I can see where the hill my 26 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:15.919 wheels are. And they said, software done, and I think they may 27 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:19.439 have implemented it already. And that's what I mean by speed of thought. 28 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:23.199 So I like that kind of stuff. This episode of Monroe Live is brought 29 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:28.360 to you by the Three Dimensional Services Group. Hey, boys and girls, 30 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:34.800 I'm here with Dan and we're at three Dimensional Services Group. And Dan, 31 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:39.080 that's pretty impressive. Wanted to give us a little background on what you guys 32 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:44.360 do here. Okay, Well, the three Dimensional Services Group was founded by 33 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:50.120 Douglas Peterson thirty one years ago. We've grown into the world's largest, most 34 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:54.960 capable and most agile prototype and low volume manufacturer. In essence, we're a 35 00:02:55.120 --> 00:03:00.639 job shop on steroids. We work with the world's most in aative companies to 36 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:07.960 validate their designs and then we're able to take our low volume manufacturing processes and 37 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:13.599 scale them across a massive amount of equipment to allow us to support volumes that 38 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:19.479 a traditional prototype shop would never be able to support. We were always working 39 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:27.960 with our clients to accelerate their product development type timelines and enable them to be 40 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:32.159 as successful as possible by bringing their market or their products to market as quickly 41 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:37.560 as possible. So you've got some of the big names here. FUK is 42 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:42.520 one of the one of the machines that most companies aspire to. But you 43 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:46.919 said you've got eighteen more coming or something sixteen coming over the next coming months, 44 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:51.639 taking us to eighty eight machines in total. These are from brands like 45 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:59.080 starreg, Bobbyus, Pirmly, Fouk, hos YCM. We've got a variety 46 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.599 of mills foriety of applications, so metasamping is the core of our business. 47 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:06.360 And this press right here is one of the larger beds we have. This 48 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:11.159 is a fifteen hundred ton press. It's one of one hundred and twenty seven 49 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:16.040 presses that we have company wide. They've all got a variety of configurations allowing 50 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:21.240 us to take on a variety of jobs. But really this is the core 51 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:28.120 of our business. We are vertically integrated from a tool design perspective, run 52 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:31.079 all our own parts and then laser cut them as well. So this is 53 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:38.160 all handled in house, vertically integrated at a significant scale. So how many 54 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:41.600 presses do you m then? One hundred and twenty seven presses ranging from twenty 55 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:46.040 tons to five thousand tons? Five thousand Really, what are you doing a 56 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:48.920 five thousand tons tribular hydroforming? Oh? Hydro form? No? Okay, 57 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.920 good, Okay. So we're moved over here and we're now standing in front 58 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:59.600 of a Trump seventy seventy forty Trump laser and we're gonna hear a little bit 59 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:01.439 about it. Capability. You've got five access, Yeah, this is a 60 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:08.199 five access laser. We've got twenty five Trump five access systems company wide. 61 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:15.959 This particular version is a six kilowatt machine. These are the finest five access 62 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:21.759 laser cutting machines available on the market. Yeah, so this is really the 63 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:27.879 top of the line Trump equipment. It's software is integrated with our two D 64 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:31.720 lasers, allowing for us to cut blanks and instantly bring them over here and 65 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:38.240 bend a perfect part repeatedly. We're going to be able to produce very very 66 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:43.639 precision parts very quickly at a significant scale with the sort of equipment, and 67 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:48.319 we're great or very grateful to our partners at Trump that have given us this 68 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:51.560 equipment to use. Here. Okay, so Dan, I can see that 69 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:57.879 we're moving pieces over here, and we're standing in front of some sort of 70 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:01.360 a three access welding system or whatever. It's the cutting system. It's a 71 00:06:01.399 --> 00:06:05.360 cutting system. Yes, so this is a Trump True store system. We've 72 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:14.240 got a twin tower feeding a butterfly configuration to fifty forty twelve kill a lot. 73 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:20.399 Two D lasers are running off of this automation system, allowing us to 74 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:29.920 keep these lasers running as efficiently as possible. The speed of these lasers, 75 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:34.240 when we get up to the power that we currently have, absolutely necessitates this 76 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:41.439 automation, allowing us to keep the laser running as often as possible. You 77 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:46.199 know, it's funny, well not really funny, but to me, it's 78 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:55.759 very interesting. You have a pre production facility that I'm sure pretty much everybody 79 00:06:55.759 --> 00:07:00.800 would die to have. I'm surprised that you're not. You may be the 80 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:03.959 biggest in the world right now, but I'm surprised you're not twice as big 81 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:11.800 because everything you're doing here is things that OEMs and tier ones should be doing, 82 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:19.519 and I've seen I've seen progress slow right down with other companies with bigger 83 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:27.680 OEMs of any type, whether it's aerospace or appliances, whatever, they always 84 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.040 slow down because they try and do it internally. This is the best thing 85 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.959 as far as I'm concerned, and looking at what you've got going on here, 86 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:36.600 it seems to me that if I was in that kind of a situation, 87 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:42.800 that's what i'd want from you. So that's my assessment of everything I've 88 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:46.480 seen here today. Yeah, we appreciate that, and we want to work 89 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:49.560 with the world's most innovative companies. We want to work with the companies that 90 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:55.120 want to go fast and really change the world. We are a job shop. 91 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:59.800 All of the capabilities that everybody's seen here are available to anybody that wants. 92 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:03.639 It's as simple as just sending us your data and getting a project started. 93 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:09.360 Thanks to the three dimensional services Group for sponsoring this video. Whether you're 94 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:16.240 looking to source metal stamping, precision CNC machining, laser cutting, welded assembly, 95 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:22.360 or plastic injection molding, the Three Dimensional Services Group should be the source 96 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:30.040 to transform your EV aerospace appliance or technology designs into reality, while also providing 97 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:37.600 a bridge to start of production forty eight bolts. I mean, spend a 98 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:41.399 hard time that it's been at twelve voltes. Yeah, sixty years. So 99 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:46.360 I've got a question for you. How difficult was it to move from twelve 100 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:50.519 to forty eight? Because I know when the s came out, I wasn't 101 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:54.399 or the plaid came out, I wasn't happy. I thought you were going 102 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.559 to do it on that. I was looking for that big giant weight reduction 103 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:01.039 and cutting all the wire and whatnot. But this one you've got it in. 104 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.279 So how how difficult was it to get that to happen? Well, 105 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:09.279 it's very difficult to change the bus voltage from twelve to forty eight because all 106 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:13.879 of the peripheral items, everything that connects to it has to interface with forty 107 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.440 eight vaults or you've got to step down to twelve volts. Yeah, so 108 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:22.240 you know there are there are hundreds of things that interface to the low voltage 109 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:26.440 bus, and that's everything from you know, the electronics in the car, 110 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:33.080 the window, yeah, the window motor, the airbags, you know, 111 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:39.840 the think the seat adjustment mode. Everything is set, the headlamps, everything's 112 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:46.559 set to twelve vaults. So the entire supply chain, the entire design infrastructure 113 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:48.720 is set for twelve volts. This is why it's been stuck at this absurdly 114 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:54.360 low number for a long time. And I think, I mean it's people 115 00:09:54.360 --> 00:10:01.039 that know a little bit about electrical electrical engineering. You don't even know a 116 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:05.159 lot, but just a little bit. We'll understand that you you actually want 117 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:11.919 to hire voltage in order to reduce the resistance losses. So the heating in 118 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:16.919 any wire is the current is ice squared r, you know, so it's 119 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:20.000 the square of the current. So if you're trying to get a particular power 120 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:26.039 rating through then as you are as you as you increase the voltage, you 121 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:33.399 can decrease the currents that voltage times average use, your powers will whold power 122 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:39.000 consonant. But the heating is proportionate to the square of the current. So 123 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.080 you want to raise the voltage in order to lower the current, thus lower 124 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:46.200 the heating in the wire, and the net effect being that you can have 125 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:52.519 much thinner wires. Then as you raise the voltage, you can you can 126 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:56.519 drop the thickness of the wire, so you can have much you can use 127 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:00.399 much less. In a nutshell, you can use much less copper, and 128 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:03.519 the wire harness weighs much less as you raised the voltage, but you did 129 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:11.000 even more because it went to the new bus system. And you know, 130 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:16.600 in the eighties when I was still working for Forward, I did everything I 131 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:22.480 could to try and get us to go to the It was a bus system 132 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:28.039 that did that failed and we couldn't get that to happen. And once it 133 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.639 failed, that's it. We can never go back again. It's failed. 134 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:33.399 It'll never work, it'll never work. But you guys made it work. 135 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:39.279 And I heard a couple of different numbers, but somewhere between in in a 136 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:46.360 percentage of waiting was sometimes something around seventy percent of the communication wire disappeared forty 137 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:52.360 eight bold who cares it's gone? And this is another thing that you know. 138 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.200 Multiplexing was that's the name that it used to be called. But anyways, 139 00:11:56.240 --> 00:12:00.840 multiplexing was really good. But it was it was too slow, and 140 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:07.759 you've got it to work, and I just maybe you could explain who came 141 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:09.279 up with it, When did you decide that you were going to go in 142 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:13.840 that direction? Was it part of the forty eight bolt discussion? Or how 143 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.879 did that work? Well, there's there's actually a couple of things happening. 144 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:22.960 So besides forty eight volts, it's also moving to Ethernet over canvas. So 145 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:28.279 Ethernet just allows for a much higher data rate than the sort of the canvas, 146 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:33.639 which is a sort of typical data bus on a car. The you 147 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.679 know, one of the effects of of being able to of having a very 148 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.879 high bandwidth bus is that you don't have to have as many points of point 149 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.080 wires because you're not constrained by the data rate. So if your data rate 150 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:48.000 per wire is low, as it is typically with canvas, you have to 151 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:52.399 have many points point wires, whereas if you have a very high data rate 152 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:58.240 like Ethernet, then you can simply attached to the bus and not worry about 153 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.240 any kind of latency or or packet loss or you know, date data loss 154 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:09.440 essentially. So it's so you need far fewer point point wires. So it's 155 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.559 both going to four times higher voltage, thus having thinner wires and needing fewer 156 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:18.399 wires because we have a much higher data rate bus. Now, I think, 157 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:22.960 frankly, these things are pretty obvious. They're like, it's simply bringing 158 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:28.000 cars to the you know, you're the twenty fourth century, because we've had 159 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:33.960 ethanet for a long time. Yeah, there's nothing that's really prevented the car 160 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:39.519 industry from moving to a higher bus voltage and a much a higher data rate 161 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:43.639 system than can bus, which is a very old protocol. And so I 162 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:48.679 feel like, actually, what we're doing is we're kind of doing making the 163 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.240 obvious moves. They seemed very obvious to me, like as as opposed to 164 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:58.360 like some you know eureka. It's it's not like is it actually a breakthrough. 165 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.440 Well, we're just trying to bring car electronics to you know, the 166 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:07.279 year twenty twenty three, right, similar to what you'd have for you know, 167 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.320 a laptop or a you know, any kind of computer. Well, 168 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:16.240 without sounding like I'm sucking up, because hey, almost never do. I 169 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.519 just think it's because the leadership. I work with many different car companies, 170 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.399 some of them some of them small, but to make a decision like that 171 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:31.399 usually involves number one a bunch of nbas and number two lawyers, and as 172 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:35.360 soon as that comes into play, boom. I don't care what what engineer, 173 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:37.320 If you haven't got a leader, that's going to be no, I 174 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:43.159 don't care, just do it. And and that kind of an obvious idea 175 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:52.559 to an engineer is totally oblivious to people who count beans and basically try and 176 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:56.720 make you do nothing, nothing new. I mean, I mean, if 177 00:14:56.039 --> 00:15:00.879 somebody is gonna I believe it's important to be good at the have some good 178 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:05.240 understanding of the field that you are leading. So if you're leading to stay 179 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:07.519 technology company, you want to be I think good at engineering, or reasonably 180 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:13.759 good at engineering. If you're you know, leading a company which is sort 181 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:18.080 of more marketing based than you, I think being a skilled at marketing is 182 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:22.440 is it is fine, but you know, like you don't want the you 183 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.559 don't want your product to be something that you don't understand essentially, so, 184 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.279 uh, there's a lot of technology in the car, so I think it's 185 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:37.120 important to have an understanding of technology of engineering in order to make sensible decisions. 186 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:43.039 I mean, even for something I think as tripical as I squared to 187 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:48.440 our heating. If you ask, I think there won't be that many technology 188 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:54.159 company CEOs who would know what that means. I would say zero. I 189 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:56.840 think like Jensen want a well, a few others, you know, maybe, 190 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:00.759 but at the end of the day, very very few would know. 191 00:16:02.039 --> 00:16:04.480 And and if they did know, it wouldn't make any difference anyway, because 192 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:08.000 again they're going to have to bump in to the same roadblocks over and over 193 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:11.960 again, and then there it's the other roadblock, the roadblock, and you've 194 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:19.639 got basically strewed by wire. Wire is awesome if you actually I don't really 195 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:25.320 spend much time on it in the cyber Truck presentation because it was hard to 196 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:29.000 explain why it's going to be great, But you have to if you drive 197 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:33.360 the car, it's immediately obvious that's exactly. So the steer by wire means 198 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:41.360 that the the the steering yoke is not mechanically connected to the wheels. So 199 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:45.639 you're now, this is the way that all modern jet airliners so made. 200 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:51.879 Uh yeah, you know, it's the the sort of steering yoak or stick 201 00:16:51.919 --> 00:16:56.639 on on a modern airliner is simply a command to the computer. So for 202 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.720 the cyber truck, the steering oak is a command to the computer. So 203 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:04.279 that means is we can adjust the gain, which so uh, I'll try 204 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:08.359 to say this in ways that say an engineering orders would understand, but also 205 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.519 that maybe a general audience would also understand. By variable gain, it's kind 206 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:17.319 of like turning out the if you're going to amplify or something, do you 207 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:22.440 turn the amplifier to a low setting or a high setting, And so you 208 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:27.160 can increase the amplification of the motion of your steering yoke according to what speed 209 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:32.039 you're driving, so that if you're in a parking lot or like if you're 210 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:36.039 low speed driving, then a small movement of the steering yoke results in a 211 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:41.359 big movement in the wheels, so that you can you can do you know, 212 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.920 a U turn with with minimal movement of the steer of the steering yoke. 213 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:48.480 But then if you're on a highway and you're moving very fast, you 214 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.680 want the wheels to only move a small amount when you move the yolk. 215 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:59.640 So it's it's it basically moves the wheels the right amount based on the speed 216 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:02.839 that you're going and what your intentions are. Well, the other good thing 217 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:06.559 too is this has real, real steering, so when I first got into 218 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:11.400 it, it's very I don't know, nerve racking or imposing anyway, first 219 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.440 time you get in this thing. It's a very expensive truck. I got 220 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:21.920 like, I got maybe a couple of minutes of like rich Otto made all 221 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:23.799 this stuff happen. Anyway, he said, well, this, this, 222 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:27.240 this, this, and it's hey, gotta go because the you know, 223 00:18:27.319 --> 00:18:30.920 he had a lot of stuff to prepare. So we got out and the 224 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.920 very first thing I noticed, very first thing I noticed was I got to 225 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:40.960 get out of this parking spot and with real, real steering along with front 226 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:45.480 wheel steering as well. It's like it turned on a dime. This is 227 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:48.319 not like trying to turn the Queen Mary around. This is a This is 228 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:53.079 a really really in a parking lot. This is going to kick everyone's tail. 229 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.839 I mean it turns like a small car even though it's a car. 230 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:00.160 Yeah, so that was another thing that has been talked about for years but 231 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:04.720 never implemented. This car has got so many of This truck has got so 232 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:11.000 many applications that engineers have been talking about since I don't know, Moses was 233 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:17.200 a pupp This is this is kind of like everything that everything that I was 234 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:21.640 kind of hoping to see. So I'm I'm very very excited. I also, 235 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:26.279 you know, I haven't been the biggest fan of the Model three and 236 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:30.799 the Model wise backseat. This one year is a monster. I mean, 237 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:36.799 this is this is really I'm really really delighted with that. When I got 238 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:38.960 in there, I brought it around, showed it everybody. They absolutely loved 239 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:41.759 that back seat. Yeah, so it's very roomy inside. I mean you 240 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:45.680 can five large adults can easily see. Yeah, easily. Yeah. And 241 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.119 I mean, like I said, I drove it around. Oh, I 242 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:52.480 love the big So there's there's a bunch of people at General Motors when we're 243 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:56.880 trying to help them out, I said, why we got two win shoe 244 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:00.480 wipers. Why don't we just put it yours doesn't have it? But I 245 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.440 wanted a cam action that would catch both sites. You don't need it. 246 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:11.319 That windshields so huge, and that blade is so gigantic. It never like 247 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:15.720 yeah giants, Yeah yeah it is. And and it works really reasonably well 248 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.680 because I don't know how you arranged that we were going to drive in the 249 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:22.599 rain and the fog and the mud, but it worked out quite good because 250 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:29.119 we've got tons of really good, really good footage on how that thing works 251 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:33.440 and whatnot. So I I I love a lot of it. Your guys 252 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.720 told me all about the uh, the illumina or sorry, the stainless steel 253 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:42.599 and it's a three to oo x x whatever but series custom. Yeah. 254 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:45.799 But the big thing for me was when I found out I was pretty sure 255 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:51.799 it be austinitic because you can't have rust. But I didn't know that you 256 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:56.000 take the austinite, work hard in it and now it's sorry Martin site and 257 00:20:56.160 --> 00:21:02.119 uh. And hence the reason I couldn't understand the bullets because I've shot through 258 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:07.359 I do some hunting and I've shot through stainless steel in the past. Yeah, 259 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:10.680 but with martin'side just now chance. So that was that was a big 260 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:14.119 surprise. I've got a question for you, though, what was the biggest 261 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:17.960 hold hold up? I mean everybody's been, you know, holding their breath 262 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:23.880 for at least four years, so what really was the biggest the biggest challenge? 263 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:30.640 Well, I think people sometimes forget, you know, it's not like 264 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.839 we're going to deliver the car, and twenty nineteen we announced car twenty nineteen. 265 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:37.079 I think we sort of expected paths that we're in production in twenty a 266 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:42.759 couple of years later and twenty one or something like that. But you know 267 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:48.079 that there was a worldwide pandemic. Then there was a global chip shortage, 268 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.880 and there were shortages of so many parts. It would be irrelevant for us 269 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.400 to bring to market a car for what that we simply do not have parts. 270 00:21:56.440 --> 00:22:00.720 To me, Yeah, so that's a pretty good reason. Yeah, 271 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:06.519 I would add parts, we would add complexity, yeah, but we would 272 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:10.400 not show any incremental units. And that's that's uh, it would actually make 273 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:11.880 that make company worse. Yeah, So at the end of the day, 274 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:15.759 I wasn't going to try and answer that question. You know, a lot 275 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.279 of people have been asking, well, first off, we were under an 276 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:21.720 nd A kind of thing, and then and then people were asking me the 277 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:23.599 same question over and over again, and I'm thinking, you know what, 278 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:26.400 this would be a good time for you to shut up, Sandy, and 279 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:30.799 let's find out for sure. And that's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, 280 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.319 it just wasn't there. We couldn't make them. So now for a 281 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.559 few years there we we we actually couldn't even make enough of the Model Y 282 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:45.200 Model three. We were actually production constrained because of multiple potch storges, so 283 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:49.319 that the global pandemic shut down massive sections of the global supply chain. Yeah, 284 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:53.480 well it was true for everyone. Nobody. Nobody was immune to that 285 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:59.000 stuff. So so it was just if we if we can't even make enough 286 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:00.559 of the cars that we have designed, what's the point of bringing a new 287 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.839 one to market? Right? So I've got another question, Then, what 288 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:11.440 are you looking at? I've been asked Bloomberg and the I don't know, 289 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.400 a bunch of bunch of these different news magazines have been asking me, what's 290 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.960 the you know, volume going to be for this thing, say in twelve 291 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:26.079 months? What are you looking at? Well, we have your cautious about 292 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:30.160 four looking statements. As a public, publicly traded company, this is not 293 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:34.920 and it's also very difficult to forecast the production ramp in the beginning because the 294 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:40.519 production rapp is like this very difficult s curve, which means the production is 295 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:45.960 very slow in the beginning. You're constrained by whatever the least lucky, least 296 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:52.759 competent thing out of ten thousand items is. So the weak link. Yeah, 297 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:59.599 there's at least ten thousand unique parts and processes required to scale production and 298 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:03.319 whatever the like I said, the least lucky, dumbest thing in the whole 299 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:07.759 system. And it could be something complicated or something trivial that actually sets your 300 00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:14.720 output rate. So it's difficult. It's very difficult to predict the slope of 301 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:19.559 that s code. That's why you know it's and even just a few months 302 00:24:19.559 --> 00:24:26.240 difference one way or the other can really change the unit volume. But the 303 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:33.079 cyber truck is not something that will be material to the to Tesla's financials next 304 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:38.640 year, meaning it will not you know, of the vehicles we make, 305 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:42.920 it will be still such a small percentage that it will not be material in 306 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:48.640 twenty twenty four. It will probably be material in twenty twenty five. Yeah. 307 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:53.440 Well, I when we went down, they were dry cycling the machines 308 00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:57.839 and went on, and you know, I'm a pretty good guesser, and 309 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:03.960 it looked like this thing could be produced at sixty well when every sixty second, 310 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:07.839 sixty jobs an hour, whatever you want. It seemed to be somewhere 311 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:12.839 in there and your other ones. When I went through year before the model, 312 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:17.960 why I was doing about forty three seconds and I got exactly the same 313 00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:22.720 number when I went through. When I went through, what do you call 314 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:29.920 it Berlin. So I think at sixty sixty jobs per hours, kind of 315 00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:33.880 like where everybody else is, nobody's at forty three nobody, so that you're 316 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:40.720 unique. That that's that's great for the for the three and the and the 317 00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:45.400 why. I'm just hoping this thing will ramp up quickly. I know that 318 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:51.480 I talked to Oh, we missed you at the party last night. I'm 319 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:53.759 sure you had other things on your mind, but there was a there was 320 00:25:53.799 --> 00:26:00.359 about two thousand people there and or Becks had this party anyhow, it was 321 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.279 really kind of cool. But if you could have been there or maybe just 322 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:07.000 been a fly on the wall to hear what everyone had to say, I 323 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:12.079 mean, there was plenty of cheering and plenty of plenty of people anxiously awaiting 324 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:18.079 their their delivery on this. So I think that I think that this is, 325 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.680 without a question of a doubt, the most brilliant product that I worked 326 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.480 on. We worked on the Mini, but not the original one. So 327 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:30.200 is Agonus brought that out. That was a big deal. And then they 328 00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:47.279 and Danger Danger I don't know, I have no ideas, but anyways, 329 00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:52.200 on this one here, I think that this is the most iconic vehicle that 330 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.720 we've seen in at least forty years. Thirty or forty years. This is 331 00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:02.680 this is I specifically to make something that looked like the future. Wow. 332 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:06.000 So yeah, it's like, I mean I think that the really really it's 333 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:10.319 like if what car would blade run or drive that way? Yeah? Yeah, 334 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:14.039 so that's that's kind of like what I was like, I mean, 335 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:18.839 astal carrier from the future exactly. And quite frankly, I wanted to do 336 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:25.559 something like this when I was working at we were working for uh Land Rover 337 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:27.599 and they, you know, there was a thing called Judge Judge dread. 338 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:32.200 Yeah, judge read reread or drive this car for sure exactly, and that's 339 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.559 what we wanted to do. I wanted to buy the frames, ship them 340 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.279 over to the States, and then I would put a Judge Dread body on 341 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.920 it. They wouldn't go for it, Oh no, no, that'll never 342 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.839 work. This, on the other hand, is just absolutely phenomenal. When 343 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.559 we were driving, there was fog and muck and whatnot. The wing mears 344 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:55.640 were continuously fogging up, but it didn't matter once I found out that I 345 00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:57.240 could, so I just turned a turn signal and I could see what was 346 00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.480 going on. If I needed to see something else. Flip on the turn 347 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:04.839 signal, the camera comes up as clear as day, perfect, perfect, 348 00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:11.640 And then I find out that you also can wash the wash the glass like 349 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:17.359 the lenses off. Brilliant. I mean, I just don't understand why it 350 00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:21.799 is that no one else has kind of like jumped into this everybody else at 351 00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:23.319 all? Is the regulation? Well that means that we we just got to 352 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:29.240 stop right there, and that's that's the stupid part. But I got a 353 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:32.559 chance to see all the stuff. I mean, I'm really kind of impressed. 354 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:37.039 From an engineering standpoint, this is like, this is like nothing, 355 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.519 Nobody's got anything quite like this. So I'm like, I say, I 356 00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.359 know you're pressed for time, but I have just one other thing I'd like 357 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:51.480 to talk about a little bit. So we have this iconic vehicle and it'll 358 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.680 be it'll be great. I'm hoping, hoping I can get a couple of 359 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.680 them, so I know that this is going to be a great vehicle. 360 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:03.880 But there's the other guys that are also dying to get a Tesla, the 361 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.960 twenty five thousand dollars Tesla, and so I'm wondering, where where is that 362 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.519 exactly where where are you with that. Yeah, Unfortunately, because you're a 363 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.400 publicly traded company, I kind of comment on things that would have a material 364 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:19.680 impact on our financials. Okay, well there you go. Yeah, But 365 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.400 anyways, I'm hoping that that's not too far down the line. I really 366 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:29.400 really would like to see something where we can where like this one here. 367 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:34.079 I'm told that the one that I'm looking for, the beast, the tri 368 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:38.240 motor and everything. Yeah, and i'd like to get two of those in 369 00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:45.400 that vehicle is like one hundred plus grant. I think that I think that 370 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.799 that's the right price for this, but it's not the right price for the 371 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:55.240 for the kid that wants to take one to college or whatnot. So that's 372 00:29:55.279 --> 00:30:00.000 why I'm kind of anxious to find out what it is that can be done 373 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.640 and for those others that want to get into electrification but can't. So if 374 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.200 we can't do that, then let me shift gears. And what do you 375 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.000 think about that? You can say a little bit. I just can't tell 376 00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.279 you, you know, unit volume in dates, because that has a mask 377 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:21.599 that then that is a that is projecting the financials. Yeah, so we 378 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.799 obviously are we are working on a low cost electric vehicle that were made a 379 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:32.680 very high volume. We're quite far advanced in that work. The you know, 380 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:37.160 I review the production line plans for that every week, and I think 381 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:45.799 the the the revolution in manufacturing that will be represented by that car will blow 382 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:51.720 people's minds. It is not like any car production line that anyone's ever seen. 383 00:30:52.839 --> 00:31:00.000 It's just going to have the basically unbossed system or would this be too 384 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:07.599 much of a question as the thing, the thing that's most interesting about this 385 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:15.240 is a production system. It's a level of production technology that is far in 386 00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:22.480 advance of any automotive plant on Earth. I can early wait now, it's 387 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.039 gonna be cool. It's going to be very yeah, I think, you 388 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.880 know, And I should point out the uh that that we will be making 389 00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.319 that the first production line will be here in the Giga factory in Texas, 390 00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:38.480 in this facility, that it's going to be in Mexico or something that will 391 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:44.839 be the second place. Mhm oh, that's way cool. It would takes 392 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.799 you long to complete the factory in Mexico. Well, this place here seems 393 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.000 to be growing every time I come here. It seems to get bigger. 394 00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:59.839 We're adding a significant extension on the south and adding more buildings on on. 395 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:01.400 We have two thousand acres, so this is really just a small part of 396 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:06.759 the property. Yeah. Well, also, I kept hearing phase one. 397 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:09.640 This is phase one. So this is phase one. I can't imagine what 398 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.160 all the other phases must be. So yeah, this building is uh is 399 00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:19.000 three times the size of the Pentagon. Yeah, well the Pentagon I got 400 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.880 lost in as well. Yeah, it's easy to do that, but this, 401 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:28.079 this building is so unique in that everybody has ever since alber Khan showed 402 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.359 us, hey, let's have a flat building and gobble up a whole bunch 403 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:36.119 of property and then we don't have to go up and down we building that 404 00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:37.599 we do have flows this building, and yeah, I know, this has 405 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:42.559 got plenty of floors, and and what's nice about it is I start with 406 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:45.480 the light stuff and I move it down to the heavy stuff, and then 407 00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.400 I've drive it out the door. This what's that thing right over there? 408 00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:53.839 The seat system, that's a that's a great example of I mean, people 409 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:58.920 have talked about doing that. Nobody had the guts to do that. And 410 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:01.720 and by the way, I don't know, I don't know if you know 411 00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:08.880 it, but my my office chair is a model model wise seat that I 412 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:14.119 put little rollers on. Well, I have a bad I have a real 413 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.880 problem with my back. And and that's the only thing. I mean, 414 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:21.119 I don't I don't need to have a chiropractor. I mean I had gone 415 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.039 to the chiropractor in over a year, a year and a half, I 416 00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:28.559 guess now, because that's thet I have no idea. You know, we've 417 00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:30.039 taken them apart and one not. But I'm not a seat engineer. That 418 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:36.000 just seems to be perfect for everybody that I know of that sits in the 419 00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:40.000 front seats absolutely loves them. So but having those and popping them in and 420 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:46.160 I mean all the all the glorious stuff you did with the with how manufacturing 421 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:52.799 should be done, it drives me wild why other people haven't done anything. 422 00:33:52.880 --> 00:34:00.440 But again I I I don't know. I hate to start drooling all over 423 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.640 you, but I think it's just great leadership. I really, I really 424 00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:09.679 appreciate that. Yeah, I mean I pushed things very hard on engineering front. 425 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:16.719 So we would have been more adventurous actually with you know, with a 426 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:22.599 Model three or a Model Y, but we couldn't take a chance on a 427 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:30.639 on being too radical because if those were bet the company cars, so you 428 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.159 know, with with the cyber truck, it's no longer a bet the company 429 00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:38.320 situation. So we have the freedom to be adventurous here. H So let 430 00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:45.960 me ask an adventurous question. Okay, So I made a lot of noise 431 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.199 about what I think the future is going to look like. And one of 432 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.719 the things that I've said is that probably the biggest car company on the planet 433 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:58.280 will be by A d And then I'm putting Tessela in on second simply because 434 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:04.920 dyd's got such a head start. I've heard plenty of people, you know, 435 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.480 criticizing that. But who do you think is going to be the winners 436 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:19.039 and losers in the car industry? Well, I think it's too early to 437 00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:22.199 say for sure, but I mean the future is definitely electric. So yeah, 438 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:30.079 companies that are not making a significant investment in electric electric vehicles are basically 439 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.719 consigning themselves to the fate of the horse and buggy market. You know in 440 00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:36.800 the nineteen twenties, Yeah, you know, there are companies that were double 441 00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:46.119 down on the on horse carriages and actually you know so so you know you 442 00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.280 don't want to be the buggy what manufacturer in the age of water? Yes, 443 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:57.440 yeah, exactly right, so but there for me, there's two giants, 444 00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:02.320 three giants that I think are going to come down real hard and and 445 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.679 one in particular. But I just decided I don't want to go down that 446 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:13.760 path. So what I want to do is basically basically just tell you that 447 00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:19.119 this has really been phenomenal. I I'm really hoping that somehow I can make 448 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:23.079 something happen for us to well for me, first off, to drive something 449 00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:29.440 around and then secondly something that we can we can tear down and enlighten the 450 00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:31.480 rest of the planet on and by the way, I forgot, I even 451 00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:36.880 have a gift for you. So there you go, so the all you 452 00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:39.159 can open it up. It's got a little flap in the front. Here 453 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:47.519 you go and there you are. So so anyways, I gave him owner, 454 00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.639 Yes if so, and you can glue it to the fridge too, 455 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.280 So there you are fridge magnet. Yeah, yeah, well you're welcome. 456 00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:02.039 I it's not much, but I I really think that it's the least I 457 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:06.519 can do for all the stuff that you've done for Monroe. I mean, 458 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:12.199 you put us on the map I had. You know, it's been a 459 00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.039 rough first half of this year, this part of the year seems to be 460 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:20.360 going a whole lot better, and I, like, I say, I 461 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:24.320 want to be cognizant of your time and consider it. So I'd like to 462 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:28.039 thank you. By the way, I've got one other thing. Both of 463 00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:32.679 us are we're aliens, okay, both of us. You came from Canada 464 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.840 and before that South Africa. I came from Canada, and I found that 465 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:43.480 that Americans have kind of lost their way a little bit thinking about history. 466 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:52.119 And there's this Guyed Thomas Jefferson, and Thomas Jefferson used to say. He 467 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.639 used to say, in matters of fashion, go with the flow. In 468 00:37:54.760 --> 00:38:00.079 matters of principle, stand like a rock. I'm going to end this with 469 00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:06.039 shaking your hand, thanking you, thanking you for standing like a rock when 470 00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:10.480 you're sitting on a stage and someone is trying to humiliate you. I I 471 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:14.519 told everybody I won't go into this and I'm not going to get all, 472 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:19.480 you know, emotional and everything. But to me, I've watched that one 473 00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:27.719 clip that people have been putting out to me and putting up against forgotten their 474 00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.840 name, Disney or Land or whatever. At the end of the day, 475 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:35.400 I will never take my grandchildren ever to that place, ever, And I 476 00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.039 think you have to wonder what would Walt Disney think of the company that is 477 00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:42.920 his namesake. Today, I'm telling you what I think, Walt Disney turning 478 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:46.760 in is gveray faster than the growbit. I Well, I'm telling you what 479 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:52.800 I believe that. I believe that it won't. It won't take too much 480 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.440 longer before somebody goes, hey, you know what, this is bullshit. 481 00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.559 We we aren't we we we shouldn't be having to shovel down our throat any 482 00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:04.440 longer, and then there'll be a big change. But it isn't going to 483 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.760 happen. It isn't going to happen next week, that's for sure, and 484 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.760 that's unfortunate. But I love the first step for me. Right now, 485 00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:19.280 I think that people have gone completely stupid. I think that that I'm not 486 00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.840 supposed to talk about this either, but I think that people have fallen into 487 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:29.719 that same trap as what Nazi Germany had, where mass hysteria took over and 488 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:37.119 created a real giant mess and it took a World war to quell that. 489 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:44.360 Those incredibly bad thinking and stuff like that. So I'm hoping that it won't 490 00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.920 take a third World War to make something like that change the way we're thinking 491 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.320 and whatnot. But I do believe that somebody, somebody has to start looking 492 00:39:53.360 --> 00:40:00.840 at what's going on in the education system because listening to people talk just I 493 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.039 have to get up and walk away. It's very difficult for me to hire 494 00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.880 people because if I hear that kind of stuff. You know, we both 495 00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:14.239 chose this country. It wasn't that we got born here. We came here 496 00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:20.039 because this was this was the land of opportunity and and for measly, a 497 00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:23.760 country where you know you're you're you make progress based on on your skill and 498 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:30.400 your ability to work and how Yeah, if you're able to do you know, 499 00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:37.280 very useful things, then you get ahead. And uh, I feel 500 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:42.840 like we're starting to lose that starting. I'd say that we're getting real close 501 00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:47.039 to a watershed. And when that happens, it's very very difficult to make 502 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.800 to make the water go uphill. So I'm I'm very, very very nervous. 503 00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:58.239 I I don't know why or how this has happened. That's not my 504 00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.599 area of expertise, but I do know what I see. I want to 505 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:05.519 try to figure that out. Like I think some of these things started probably 506 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:09.679 earlier than people realize. I'm thinking. I think when they started with the 507 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:20.320 politically correct philosophy and whatnot, I think that that tipping that was starting, 508 00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:22.719 that that's kind of like where it started. And then and now it's gotten 509 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:29.039 so ridiculous that it even funny. And I don't know how that's like. 510 00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:30.559 It's like, it's really just another way of saying, like you have to 511 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:34.639 lie to fit in exactly, and then how and then more and more you 512 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:37.800 have to lie to fit in more and more light to fit in. And 513 00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:44.360 eventually that that that sort of housive cards of lives will collapse. It always 514 00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:49.960 does and it always has. But when it collapses, who gets crushed? 515 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.079 And and is there any recovery from something like that? How? How? 516 00:41:54.320 --> 00:42:00.280 Uh how how damn dumb can people be? Well, we've watched it happened 517 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:05.960 in the past. People who read history have watched the Roman Empire collapse, 518 00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.559 the Greeks, the Egyptians. I mean, show show me a nation, 519 00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:14.000 show me a civilization, I should say, and I'll show you, hey, 520 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:16.639 that collapsed. And why did it collapse? Well because the people went 521 00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:22.519 stupid or they spent more time watching watching what's going at this circus as opposed 522 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:27.440 to watching what was happening in their backyard. I mean, yes, very 523 00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:34.920 few empires collapsed simply due to external forces. They first defeated themselves from within 524 00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:38.440 exactly. Yeah. The only way to lose in the United States would be 525 00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:43.480 if we if we tear it down from the inside. And it seems to 526 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:45.639 me anyway that there's a lot of that stuff going on right now. So 527 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:52.159 yes, I think, I think, I suspect things will come to a 528 00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.480 head and the not too distant future. I hope you're well. I hope 529 00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:59.519 you're right and it moves in the right direction, but that there's going to 530 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.400 be something else. Yeah, now that's that's the truth too. Yeah. 531 00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:07.039 So anyway, I know your son needs to get to bed. Yeah, 532 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:15.840 and I pee quite frank. We were at that last night and I'm fading 533 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.639 fast. I had about six cups of coffee. It was a lot of 534 00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:22.079 fun. But anyways, thank you so much, thank you. I really 535 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:27.320 appreciate it. You're welcome. Yeah, and thanks very much everybody for watching, 536 00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.840 and Elon for for giving up his time, and and really I don't 537 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:35.440 know what time it is, but if you've got to go back to work 538 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:37.119 for another two hours, i'd say you