WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:07.599 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:14.320 fourteen fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services Ensure your most Prized Possessions. Katie z 3 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:18.559 R. Two Sack at iHeart Radio Station. Good afternoon, Welcome down the 4 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:21.760 Ballingham, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host for the day, Jay 5 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:25.839 Gonzalez. My buddy Steve is out one more day. He went to Vegas 6 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:29.239 over the weekend to bet some horses and he said he'd be back tomorrow, 7 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:32.079 so we'll see. I don't think it went well for him or a whole 8 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:36.079 lot of other people in the derby on Saturday. Everybody got kind of crushed 9 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:41.359 with a long shots coming in again. So if you had the chalk you 10 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.359 didn't. You didn't do well. But Steve will be back tomorrow. We'll 11 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:48.119 have some more guests. But I've got a couple of capable hands in today. 12 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:50.399 My son Adam, who's been on the show as a co host, 13 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:55.880 former sports information director at Arizona for football, women's basketball, among other sports. 14 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:59.159 He's here to join me and talking about stuff that's been going on over 15 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:03.119 the weekend and earned Devin got all our interns of wrapping up finals, and 16 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:04.519 but Devin has made some time to come in to day and hang with us. 17 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:08.519 So thank you guys for being here today. Absolutely be here all right. 18 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:11.959 Well, you know I had a place to start, and we got 19 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:15.760 another place to start and another place to start, but I'm gonna go back 20 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:18.239 to the initial place to start, and that was with the Suns yesterday. 21 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:21.560 Um. You know, they had a nice win, they've even the series 22 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:26.680 of two two. But we've got this incident with uh with Nikolajoki. Uh, 23 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:32.560 give it a little shove to mattach. Uh just be the owner of 24 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:36.439 the Sons who grabbed a loose ball. And there's a lot of just a 25 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:40.640 lot of uproar over this. And we'll have Jody Ailer from Fox Sports nine 26 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:42.840 ten and Phoenix. Uh, he'll be on the show and we'll talk to 27 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:48.000 him about not just the game but also this situation. But uh, in 28 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:51.560 the last in the last few minutes, it's come out that Yogi is not 29 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:56.000 going to be suspended. Uh, it looks like him according to Adrian Robzorowski, 30 00:01:56.040 --> 00:02:00.400 he's gonna get a twenty five thousand dollars fine, but fortunately it's not 31 00:02:00.439 --> 00:02:02.079 going to affect the series. Yeah, no, he shouldn't be suspended. 32 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:07.200 They were both dumb about it. Right, you're not a part of the 33 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.599 game. It should be a don't grab the ball. But also, yo, 34 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:14.360 kids can't just go into the stands and shoving people. Yeah, I 35 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.680 mean, you know when I heard it, at first I heard it that 36 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:21.280 he elbowed him, and then I watched it he just kind of nudged him. 37 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:23.560 He flopped a little bit, right, Well, okay, here, 38 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:28.840 No, he didn't flop. He embellished, And that's a different day. 39 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:32.719 Here's here's a difference because if Yokich touches either one of us here we are 40 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:37.400 following down. That is one of the largest human beings on the planet. 41 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:42.759 Okay, okay, you're right. He didn't flop. He did embellish. 42 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:46.400 He threw his hands up, he fell back. If yo push his knee 43 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:51.960 a little bit, I'm going here. Okay, I mean you say, 44 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:54.560 you know it wasn't that big a deal. Both guys were dumb. Yeah, 45 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:58.919 you know, should should have just given up the ball. I thought, 46 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:00.719 just don't the ball, I don't know, just grabbing and throwing back 47 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:04.039 in the court, right, which is you know we've sat on the sideline 48 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:06.840 games. You know, scoring and what ball comes on our way, we 49 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.240 get our hands on it and toss it back, right, But you know 50 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:13.639 so, so there's that. But also the way yokis Ranto the sideline to 51 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:16.400 grab the ball, I thought that little. You can't like they were both 52 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:20.919 dumb about it. You can't like there are gonna be repercussions. I have 53 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.039 no idea if Ishpia is gonna get fined or anything, right, matter to 54 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.120 him. If he gets the twenty five thousand dollars, fine, right, 55 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:30.599 But still like, you can't be going into the stands, even if it's 56 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:32.159 the owner, if it's someone else on the Sun's match, you can't be 57 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:36.240 going over there right right, I mean, what did you think, Devin 58 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:39.439 Well, I agree with him. It was done by both parties. So 59 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:44.159 I'm kind of glad the NBA decided to when they looked at the rule with 60 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:47.199 Yo Kids going into the stands, I'm glad that they decided that they weren't 61 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:51.919 going to suspend him because it just ruins the game basketball. That series is 62 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:55.039 too close one game. If Yo Kids misses Game five, Denver's knock, 63 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:59.479 Denver's gonna get blown out right and the series is over. Let me say 64 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:03.879 this. Let me say this, I'm surprised Suns fans are not like really 65 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:09.280 angry because I remember what year was the Robert Ory when Robert Rory shoves Steve 66 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:13.240 Nash, Right, a couple of the Suns players like stepped onto the court, 67 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.480 and right, they spend it, all of them, right goes into 68 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:23.040 ses the owner. Yeah, he doesn't get suspended, and fans have long 69 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:27.000 memories on stone saying they absolutely do. But what do you think the impact 70 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.279 of the owner coming out and saying that he did not want to see Yoki 71 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:34.560 suspended? Does that alter why the Suns? And I don't know either either 72 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.839 way. Like I'm a sunst I'm like yo, like you guys stole a 73 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:42.600 champiship from us for suspending the guys for stepping onto the court. Didn't even 74 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:45.600 do anything. He stepped onto the court. Let me suspend it. Let 75 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:48.600 me read the tweet that that HP has sent out is at seven fifty two 76 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:51.199 a m R. Time. So, first thing this morning, great win 77 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:56.240 for the Suns last night in an amazing series so far. Exclamation point that 78 00:04:56.360 --> 00:05:00.720 should be and is the only story. Suspending or finding anyone over last night's 79 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:02.839 incident would not be right. I have a lot of respect for Yoki and 80 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:06.720 don't want to see anything like that. Excited for Game five ghost Sons, 81 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:11.160 Oh yeah, it would not be fun if that suck. Do you think 82 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:14.319 that does anything for him in terms of his you know, because yeah, 83 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:17.360 he's but you know, there's been a few things that have gone on that 84 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:20.279 are just kind of you know, people are a little suspicious of his character 85 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:26.040 and stuff. One. Do you think that was a necessary Uh? It 86 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:30.480 was nice? Yeah, sure, do you And you think it had something 87 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.439 to do with the decision. Yeah, I think it had at least a 88 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:35.800 little bit to play. Yeah. Well in the end, I like you 89 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:40.000 guys, I'm glad that that they're not gonna do anything like that that's gonna 90 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:44.079 affect the series, affect to get twenty five thousand offs. Yoki is pocket 91 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.439 change as well. Um, and so you know, let's say they find 92 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:48.759 me, it should be a fifty or one hundred thousand. It's pocket change 93 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:54.240 him. Guy's a billionaire. Uh, you know, send that over to 94 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:56.720 me and I'll be happy with it. Right, So, so that's a 95 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:59.439 good thing. But uh, you know, we'll get a name, we'll 96 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:02.839 get Jodi Ayler's thoughts on that as well as just the series itself. I'm 97 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:06.920 a little surprised that the Suns were able to even the series. Um, 98 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:11.759 they didn't look good those first two games on the road, and it's hard 99 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.160 to look good on the road, but I thought they looked so bad that 100 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:16.759 I thought I thought they could get swept or maybe go down three one at 101 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:20.839 home. I disagree, disagree. This was gonna get tied up to to 102 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:25.360 two, Okay, at home? You know, Kevin and Devin book are 103 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:29.079 gonna play better. Yeah. I mean the Suns would have won Game two 104 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:30.720 if they didn't lose Chris Paul. That kind of threw everything out of whack, 105 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:32.839 right, and then they were able to game play in Games three and 106 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:39.680 four without Chris. So how much of an impact because Paul's out Game five? 107 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:43.959 How much have been impact for say, the Suns to win in Denver 108 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.040 and they take a three two and they're having all the success with Chris Paul 109 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.680 in the court. Does it change? It's bring back? What do you 110 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:54.360 do? Right? Um? I think in the long run they need Chris 111 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:59.319 Paul, Um, Devin Booker and two of the That's a few scores in 112 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.000 the NBA, But I think it is nice to have a guy like Chris 113 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:06.959 Paul to be able to kind of and and if part of the issue was 114 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:11.240 that he's you know, the end of the season, he was you know, 115 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:15.480 wearing out, grinding down, having this time off, whether for an 116 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:18.639 injury or not, he's not playing, you know, will that help him 117 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:25.920 you know, kind of recoup and and you know, be what every championship 118 00:07:26.360 --> 00:07:31.920 they need him. I even think it's hard to say because but ninety points, 119 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:35.920 well, that's the thing that I think they can but you know, 120 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:40.480 if if things get stagnant, Chris Paul can help that. Yeah, all 121 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:43.639 right, so we'll talk again. We'll talk more about that with Jody Ailer. 122 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:46.560 The second thing that I was thinking about starting the show with, and 123 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:48.879 I just didn't want to go into this into these weeds, but we do 124 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:55.360 have to bring it up. Bob Huggins, the head coach of West Virginia. 125 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:57.959 Um, you know we've talked about Huggins. You know, we talked 126 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:01.120 about him a lot when Kirk Crease said decided to to go to West Virginia. 127 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.639 Bob's kind of a grumpy guy, well known grumpy guy looks like a 128 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.800 grumpy guy doesn't really care if people think he's grumpy. And he was on 129 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:16.480 a radio show and the audio of it is out where he used a word 130 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:22.680 that um gets most people fired, starts with an F, has evolved in 131 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:26.600 a G in an s and uh. He used it twice in reference to 132 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:35.480 Hu. People from Xavier University called him Catholic blada bladas, and it's it's 133 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:43.759 out. He's issued an apology, the university has issued just issued a statement 134 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.759 of a little bit ago. The university statement says Coach Huggins remarks today on 135 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:52.120 a Cincinnati radio show where insensitive, offensive, and do not represent our university 136 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:56.240 values. Coach Huggins has since apologized. West Virginia University does not condone the 137 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:01.159 use of such language and take such actions very seriously. The situation is under 138 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:07.759 review, and we'll be addressed by the university and its athletics department. One 139 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:13.759 of the little pieces of this is that, uh, some time back, 140 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:20.039 Huggins had Tom Brennaman visit his basketball team, tweeted out, how you know 141 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:24.360 Tom Brennaman is a good guy. People make mistakes and those kinds of things. 142 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.759 Well, Tom Brenniman got fired as as a play by play announcer forreasing 143 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:31.399 the exact same word. So people are saying, well, it's no shock 144 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:35.879 that Bob Huggins uses that word to Tom Brennaman lost his job. You know, 145 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.039 the question now is does Bob Huggins lose his job? He's he's he 146 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:45.000 assured a long statement and apologizing and saying he will accept whatever consequences. But 147 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.159 it'll be interesting to see what those consequences are. I don't think he'll lose 148 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:54.080 his job. He will be remanded in some way. I don't know. 149 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.519 It sucks. Yeah, you have to be spot than that, right, 150 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:01.720 And if you listen to the conversation, you know, there's a couple of 151 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:07.759 guys on the radio, the radio host, they're pretty coupable. They're pretty 152 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:11.360 coupable too. They laughed very fast and loose. They laughed along with it, 153 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:15.120 and you gotta wonder, you know, does something happen to them? 154 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:18.879 And those guys probably since they didn't say the word, maybe orn't a suspension 155 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:22.000 or something like that. Hugans will probably get fined, maybe suspended, I 156 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:26.039 don't know. I mean, you guys are young guys. I'm the old 157 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.360 get off my long guy. There would have been a time when I said 158 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:30.960 he needs to be fired, and he needs to be fired right now. 159 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:35.360 I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I think something has to happen. 160 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:37.960 I mean, I don't know, I don't What I'm saying is I don't 161 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:45.080 think he'll give Yeah, do you think he should get fired? It kind 162 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:50.039 of depends on like this is hard. It depends on like a lot of 163 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.399 stuff, Like it's he always kind of in trouble like this West Virginia right 164 00:10:54.679 --> 00:11:00.399 there, like a constant issue. Well on top of insulting you know, 165 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.240 uh, you know the lgbtqs, you know, with his word, he 166 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:11.720 insulted the Catholics too. He insulted a religion, so maybe a little less 167 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:13.840 so, but still you know, he used you know, the word Catholic 168 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:18.200 as if it's a derogatory term. You know, so you have that too. 169 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:20.879 You just wonder. I don't know, And again he still have to 170 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:28.320 think about where he's at West Virginia exactly, you know what I'm saying. 171 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:31.799 So I don't know, I don't know what's going to happen. But so 172 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:37.320 you've got this uproar now, you know, stay two Like Bob Haggins doing 173 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:41.480 a Cincinnati radio hit in May, like and dropping this and like what's going 174 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:46.039 what are we doing here? You know, because we need stuff to go, 175 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:48.200 we need stuff going on, we need stuff happening. So so Bob 176 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:52.080 Huggins made in some hot water. Would be interesting to see what happens over 177 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.639 the next couple of days on whether or not he uh he he gets got 178 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:58.159 an item three, which we probably could say for for breaking news. But 179 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:03.080 item three, it's because we talked about it at length on Friday with the 180 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:07.879 Alabama baseball and a gambling a gambling a controversy over there. Now you got 181 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:13.320 two more schools, Iowa and Iowa State, who have now have gambling investigations, 182 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.440 gambling controversies. The Iowa baseball team, there were four guys from the 183 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.320 baseball team who were held out of a game. They're being looked at for 184 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.200 having gambled on I don't know if it's if it's gambling on their team or 185 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:28.200 other teams, but illegally gambling. And then you have like a dozen players 186 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:33.080 in the Iowa State athletic department football and a couple of other sports that are 187 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:37.639 also being looked at. Basically, it's a no tolerance for gambling if you're 188 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.399 an athlete if it were a college athlete, not even that if you work 189 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.799 at an NCAA institution, if you're working in the NCAA, Like when I 190 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.919 worked in Arizona, even when gambling was legal, I could as an SID. 191 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:54.759 It doesn't matter right you were in you were in the communications office. 192 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.919 So as a as A that's like rule number one. That's like rule number 193 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:01.639 one when you're working department. You can't gamble. You can't get anything right 194 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:05.039 on anything that has an NCAA sport. So like, yeah, well, 195 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.600 I mean think back Rick Newhizel got in a march Mania pool, right and 196 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:13.519 lost his job at Washington. So like even if let's say, I don't 197 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.879 know, trying to think of a sport that Arizona does not have, but 198 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.159 that is a water polo, right, Arizona doesn't have water polo, I 199 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:26.240 still can't gamble. Yeah, like anything that has an NCAA sporting. Yeah, 200 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.960 but the only the only thing you were allowed to, So we'll get 201 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:33.480 it. I want to have a little bit more of a discussion because we 202 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:35.879 had on this a little later. Because we had the discussion about you know, 203 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:39.480 people can say, well, you shouldn't have legalized gambling in the first 204 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:43.440 place. And the fact of the matter is these guys are getting caught because 205 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.960 there's legalized Ye. I don't think it's that they shouldn't have legalized gambling. 206 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:50.159 It's like this, I'm not surprised, Like this is this is what was 207 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:54.320 going to happen. Right, You've seen it happen in the NFL. I'm 208 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:56.120 sure it's happened other places that we just haven't heard about it. Right, 209 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:01.279 Yeah, it's too easy to bet it is it is, and it's it's 210 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.240 too easy to think you're not gonna get caught. But you know, if 211 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:05.080 you're using your phone or whatever, you're gonna get caught. You know. 212 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:11.879 I remember the wet we gotta get out for Jodey Ayler. But the player 213 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:16.080 recently who got oh, it was Stanley Barry Hill. He was gambling from 214 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:20.679 the facility and they were able to track that somebody was gambling from the Bills 215 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:22.679 facility and that's how you got caught. All right, Let's let's take our 216 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.960 breakwroad and come back. Jody Ayler's gonna be joining us from Fox Sports nine 217 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:30.879 ten up in Phoenix. We'll talk some Phoenix Suns. See if this uproar 218 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:35.840 over the UH the confrontation between his Bienniokich is over now that we're moving on 219 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:37.320 and what he thinks of the series, we'll stick around. We'll have Jody 220 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:43.440 Ayler right after the break. 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Brought to you by the Southern Arizona Business Coalition, 273 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:51.640 Streamy Life, I Mean My Heart Radio, Why this is I on 274 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:59.200 the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen, Welcome 275 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:03.519 Back on Falling Fox Sports fourteen fifteen on your host Jay Gonzalez as Steve Vera 276 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:06.880 out for one more day, but I got my co host Adam Gonzalez here 277 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:10.200 and U in turn Devin and now on the line, we've got Jody Ailer, 278 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:14.440 host of the Drive on Fox Sports fourteen excuse me, Fox Sports nineteen 279 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:18.680 up in Phoenix in the mornings following the Suns closely. So we wanted to 280 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.680 get some of Jody's takes on all the stuff that's been going on around around 281 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.519 the series with Denver Nuggets. Starting with just how the series is going. 282 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:32.000 We'll get to the mad should be NICOLAOK thing. But Jody, they even 283 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:33.240 the series. I don't know if you were surprised that they were able to 284 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:37.400 do that or what were your thoughts after they went down to zep Yeah, 285 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.559 I was, I was. I wasn't surprised they went down two. Oh. 286 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:45.480 I was surprised a little bit that they've been able to battle back both 287 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:48.599 games. But you know, what they've done is pushed the tempo and simplify 288 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:52.039 things. You know. They one of the things that had been bothering them 289 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:56.759 is that they did not have a lot of chemistry. That Kevin Brant had 290 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.039 played eight games in the regular season really three to finish, and then they 291 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:04.279 rent right into postseason mode and you know, the universal basketball languages, but 292 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:07.200 running a fast break, and it feels like the more fast breaks they run, 293 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:11.799 the better everybody else is off. And so far that's been the secret 294 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:14.880 to getting right back in this series. So it's best of three. You 295 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:18.119 know, that feels a lot more doable winning two of three than it felt 296 00:20:18.160 --> 00:20:21.839 like when they were down two oh and they had to win for the next 297 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:25.880 five. Jody, do you think point book is the way to go here? 298 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:30.920 You know, I actually think Campaign has been really really good for them. 299 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.119 The box score doesn't say that he's put up twelve points in two games, 300 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:37.200 but he's had I believe, eleven assists in those two games. I 301 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:41.759 think it's a really smart move to have Campaign play twenty five to thirty minutes 302 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:45.720 and then you know, point book when needed. But here's like the short 303 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:48.880 answers. Whatever they're doing with Devin Booker is what they should be doing right 304 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:52.920 because it's working at such a level. You don't need to change the thing 305 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.279 with Devin Booker. You don't need to change anything around about or with Devin 306 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:03.039 Booker. But I do think Campaign gives twenty five good minutes of just tempo 307 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:07.799 he plays for Defensively, he's active with his hands, and I'm you know, 308 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:10.319 one of the big stories we've been kind of chewing on, guys, 309 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:14.039 is you know what happens if and when Chris Paul is able to come back 310 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:18.279 before the series is over. Today it was reported by Seams Tranti that not 311 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:22.720 for Game five, but potentially for Game six and who that would be. 312 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:26.599 That would be a tough decision for Montie Williams if then somehow win Game five, 313 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.920 they've won three in a row, and then Chris Paul wants to come 314 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:34.480 back or they is able to come back. Do you think the way Booker 315 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:40.279 is playing right now is kind of the reason Kevin Durin is here, Like 316 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:44.079 they can't. In the past, the Nuggets would send their entire team at 317 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:47.240 Devin Booker. Now you can't really do that with you know, maybe the 318 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:51.640 best score of the basketball of all time also on the floor. Yeah, 319 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:56.000 I mean, I think for sure, I think I think we all recognize 320 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:59.759 what Devin book was capable of doing. You know what the interesting part is, 321 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:03.400 Devin Booker has not been at his best in the playoffs the last two 322 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:07.279 years. If you go back to the NBA Finals two years ago, he 323 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:11.799 scored nineteen points in Game six. They they needed this version at Devin Booker 324 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:15.200 last year, Game six, in Game seven against the Mavericks. He scored 325 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:19.440 thirty points combined in those two games. And so to see him elevating, 326 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:25.240 what's been really interesting is that it's Devin Booker leading Kevin Durant. It feels 327 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:29.279 like this is Devin Booker's team, not Kevin Durant. And it feels like 328 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:34.759 Devin Booker's the one with multiple NBA championships and NBA Finals MVP titles and not 329 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:38.039 Kevin Durant. So yeah, I mean, I think if you're talking about 330 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:44.119 what the idea was when Devin Booker and Kevin Durant joined forces, this right 331 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:48.400 now is kind of the most optimized version of it because they have been really 332 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:53.400 This last game was the first time both dudes played four really good quarters. 333 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:57.920 We hadn't seen the best of Kevin Durant. Devin Booker has allowed the Suns 334 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:02.799 to prosper even without that. And you saw me in at one hundred and 335 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:07.839 fifty eight points combined, one like sixty seven percent shooting the last two games 336 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.559 for those two do. So let's go back to that question though of Chris 337 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:17.079 Paul, and I mean, how different are things and how different are they 338 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:21.200 going to want them to stay if when Chris Paul does come back. So 339 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:26.640 they're very different right now. They're just pushing tempo at every single opportunity. 340 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.240 It's grabbed the rebound, push the tempo. With Chris Paul, you know, 341 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:33.720 campaign can be the outlet pass and he can push tempo and then make 342 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.680 the right decision. Chris Paul is not a guy that you want leading fast 343 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:42.039 break at the fast break. So what I think will be interesting is if 344 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:48.400 Chris Paul is healthy for game six, will I don't know that you start 345 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:52.240 Chris Paul. But here's the beauty. The game slows down in the final 346 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:55.680 four minutes of every type game, of every type playoff game, Chris Paul 347 00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:59.279 can still close with the best of them. So to me, I think 348 00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:03.720 I would still want Cameron Payne playing twenty five thirty minutes quarters won through three 349 00:24:03.799 --> 00:24:07.799 and a half, and then the last five minutes of the game. I 350 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:11.240 think Chris Paul's the closer on the floor. Okay, all right, so 351 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:15.720 what you know, we saw that thing you know with DeAndre Ayton early in 352 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.359 the you know, early in the series, kind he got caught loafing under 353 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:23.599 the Basket's what's DeAndre Ayton's role with what's going on now with these two guys. 354 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:27.160 It's just to be a role player, is kind of what his role 355 00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:30.839 is always supposed to be with the suns Us. He's a role player, 356 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:36.200 and the more he embraces that role. And I think someone I can't remember 357 00:24:36.200 --> 00:24:38.759 who would might have been Mike Malone recently who said, I think that role 358 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:42.599 players become sort of a dirty word in the NBA. But as we've seen 359 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:48.240 the Sun Sinker swim on how their role players play. NBA championships are won 360 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:52.039 by all time great players, but the role players surrounding those great players are 361 00:24:52.039 --> 00:24:56.680 determined which great NBA player wins. And I thought in twenty seven minutes, 362 00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:02.519 DeAndre Ayton made more hustle plays in Game four than he had the entire eight 363 00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:06.160 previous playoff games. I mean, the first possession of the game last night, 364 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:10.319 they had three offensive rebounds because DeAndre Eighten was just getting his hands on 365 00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:14.359 everything. One of the biggest plays of the game yesterday was it's a five 366 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:18.519 point game that the Nuggets have a fast break in the fourth quarter, Michael 367 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:22.039 Porter Junior pulls up for three well gets who deflected and altered that shot at 368 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:26.440 the last second. It was DeAndre eight and the hustling back on defense. 369 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:32.400 So really, DeAndre Eighten's role is play hard, grab rebounds, give solid 370 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:36.839 minutes against the Kohli Yokich and let the stars through the heavy lifting. And 371 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:40.319 here's the thing about role players too, and it's perfect with Shammont last night. 372 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:44.440 They have to win you a game in a in a tightly contested series, 373 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:48.240 the role players have to win you a game. Whether that's why I 374 00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:53.000 go ahead, whether it's Landry Shammon or back in O eight when Glenn Davis 375 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:56.880 and Nate Robinson went nuts in that finals game, that's kind of the one 376 00:25:56.920 --> 00:25:59.720 that comes to mind. But a role players are going to have to win 377 00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:03.720 you at least one game in a big series. You look around the NBA 378 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.519 right now. Listen, Malcolm Brogden is the NBA sixth man. Eric White's 379 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:11.640 great off the bench. You could look at the Lake because their role players 380 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:17.160 Austin Reaves, Jared Vanderbilt, guys that swing games. The Warriors, they 381 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:21.359 get a bunch from Jordan Pool. They're basically impossible to beat. So yeah, 382 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:23.400 Kavon Looney, I will enough rebound. The Suns didn't have that a 383 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:27.000 guy. And one of the reasons I picked them to lose to the Nuggets 384 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:32.000 in this series at the beginning is because no role players is stepped that Monty 385 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:37.759 Williams had really butchered the rotation we'd been screaming for Terrence Rostiget minutes for the 386 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.640 entire postseason, and so if they have And the other thing about role players 387 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.720 guys is it's a confidence game with them, right. If you don't show 388 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.759 them that you have confidence in them, they're not going to play well when 389 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:52.720 they get three shot the game. I think when Landry sham It's playing, 390 00:26:53.400 --> 00:26:56.759 I think you stick Landry sham At in the starting lineup for Game five. 391 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:03.200 I think you put Landry sham At camp on the floor with Durant Booker and 392 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:07.920 Eaton and Joshua Kobe, who is a zero offensive. I think Shammon, 393 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:11.279 you try that space the floor shooters. Now that Lames or Shammon's playing with 394 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.319 inconfidence, you, I think you ride that until the wheels fall up, 395 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.599 which might be the first quarter of game five, but you also want to 396 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.519 see that. Hey, Jody, UM, can we do this? We 397 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:25.920 got some static on the line, can we call you? Hang up and 398 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:27.720 call you right back. It's not it's nothing with you, it's our system 399 00:27:27.759 --> 00:27:30.680 over here. I want to finish this conversation. Let's hang up. We're 400 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:37.720 going to call you right now. I just, uh, that was chaos. 401 00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.799 It's that's happened to us a few times. So, UM, you 402 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.680 know there's nothing we can do it, and it's going to get worse and 403 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.119 to the point that you can't hear. So I want to see that. 404 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.039 About six minutes left, so I want to I want to continue. The 405 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.279 role player is in the NCAA tournament. It's like that time where you got 406 00:27:55.400 --> 00:27:57.079 to win a game when you don't play well, right, and this one 407 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.759 you got to win a game where maybe your stars aren't scoring. You're where 408 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.839 Devin Booker and Kevin Durant aren't you scoring thirty points? And you need Landry 409 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:06.279 sham right in a seven game series, you need to be able to do 410 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:07.640 that. You know too, as you said, haven't win at least one 411 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:14.559 of those games, so you know it's a just so you know they can't 412 00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:18.119 hear our listeners can't hear the dial tone and that stuff that's in our years. 413 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.039 Um But you know, when you have a seven game series like that, 414 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:22.920 you do have you got to win games different ways, obviously, but 415 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.559 as you said, at least one game where you're where you guys have to 416 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.119 step up and do that more often than not, like your guys are going 417 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.160 to lead you to a victory. But it's it's gonna come down to the 418 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:40.079 role player at Joe. Are you there? Okay, let's get okay, 419 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.519 you're back on the air. So okay, that was a good actually broke 420 00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:45.799 it a good time. Um. Let let's talk about the situation with Yoki's 421 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.319 first of all, you know, we'll get back to what they decided, 422 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:53.480 but a situation like this, it took place in this game. He's had 423 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:56.839 that. You know, he's had all day with this stuff going on before 424 00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:59.519 you know, we got we saw you know, he's not going to be 425 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:03.480 suspended, but just having to deal with that, you know, does that 426 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.680 impact anything at all going forward? Or now you just shake it off and 427 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:12.759 go play tomorrow for the Suns or for Yoki. I don't think it bothers 428 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.640 them, No, I don't think it's any issue for him. I mean, 429 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.599 he's pretty much a robot out there. He's just you know, he 430 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.799 putting up his numbers. You know. It's funny because the role player conversation, 431 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:23.920 I think is now a bigger issue for the Nuggets. You know, 432 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.960 can they get something out of KCP, Michael Porter, Junior, Bruce Brown, 433 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:33.799 someone to ease the load off Jamal Murray and and off of Yokijim Aaron 434 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.599 Gordon falls into that. But yeah, I don't think it'll affect Yokis at 435 00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.160 all. I don't think. I'm just glad to me the playoffs are about 436 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:45.039 the integrity of the series, and unless it's something absolutely egregious, I did 437 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.559 not think Yoki should have been suspended, and I'm glad the NBA made that 438 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.119 decision because Game five is going to be an absolute banker. Yeah, seriously, 439 00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.319 you know, and I know, you know we're Adam and I were 440 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:57.359 talking at the top of the show. You know, SUNS fans probably have 441 00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:02.680 a long emory thinking back to you know, the guys coming off the bench 442 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.799 with the Robert Or situation. Guys get suspended that series seemed you know, 443 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.559 everybody still believes turned on that whole situation, and you know, the Sun 444 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:12.640 are saying, you know, how come we're not getting ours now? But 445 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.359 what do you think as far as that goes? Yeah, I mean, 446 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:21.720 listen, the Carmack scales of justice have been imbalanced again to Suns for their 447 00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:26.880 inspirations, and so what I have complained that the Sun were the beneficiary of 448 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:32.559 a controversial commissioner's decision, I would not have complained about it. I wouldn't 449 00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:37.519 have claimed and I wouldn't have viewed the series differently because the Sons have been 450 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:38.440 on the other end of it so much. But yeah, I mean, 451 00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:44.160 obviously, two thousand and seven, when Robert or slams Steve Nash into the 452 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:47.519 scores table and I'm Mari Stott and Iron Boris ste I'll step onto the floor 453 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:51.119 and David Stern applies the letter of the law instead of the spirit of the 454 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:55.480 law, fundamentally flips that series. You're going to carry that in trauma for 455 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.119 a long time. But I do think you know, two years ago when 456 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.519 the Suns made their fine run, everybody kept saying, well, you didn't 457 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.720 you know Anthony Davis was injured and Jamal Murray was injured and GWHI Lenmond was 458 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:08.960 injured, which I always thought was ridiculous because they beat Lebron, James, 459 00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.359 Nicola, Yo Kitchen, Paul George to get to the NBA Finals. But 460 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:15.640 it would have felt similar had they beat the Nuggets in Game five and won 461 00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.039 this series. It just felt like everybody would have held it against them. 462 00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:22.000 The Suns are good enough to beat the Nuggets straight up if they keep playing 463 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.440 the basketball they're playing, so I think competitively, I don't think this changed 464 00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:30.599 as much in this series. That's also just what happened with every champion. 465 00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.240 You have to get lucky, like you have to stay you have to stay 466 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.759 healthy. Someone's going to go down for the team. It's gotta take advantage 467 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.160 of NCAA tournament, NBA finals, whatever sport. It is, like, 468 00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:42.400 that's just kind of what happens. Yeah, you don't you don't have to 469 00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.559 apologize when the breaks go your way, and in this case, you know, 470 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.519 the brakes didn't go all the way the Sun's way, but you I 471 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:56.079 thought one of the more interesting things was how kind of obviously disrespectful the Nuggets 472 00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:01.400 were postgame about Matt Hpiah, who just just repeatedly referring to him as a 473 00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:07.359 fan kind of in a derogatory way, like this guy thinks he's bigger than 474 00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.240 the game. This guy thinks he's something other than a fan. You're either 475 00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:13.200 a player, coach, or a fan. And there Mike Malone said it, 476 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:19.000 Yoki said it. I'm just curious if the Sun's absorbed any of that 477 00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:24.160 disrespect and will use it as bulletin board material for whatever slight extra motivation they 478 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:27.920 may be able to get out of it. What is an already hyper motivated 479 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.480 mode in game five? All right, we do have game five to a 480 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:36.400 series tight two two. It's you know, historically huge game winner of this 481 00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:38.759 game tends to e you know, go on and win the series. What 482 00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:45.160 do the Suns need to do in game five that continue doing what they're doing? 483 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.039 Do they have to find something else? What do they have to do 484 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:52.240 now? I think one of the biggest things that gets overlooked as Yokis had 485 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:57.519 four rebounds in game number four and the Sun's outrebounded the Nuggets. If they 486 00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.480 can win the glass, they will win Game five. Now, the Nuggets 487 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.640 were below five hundred and the regular season on the road, They've done really 488 00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.759 good at home. Role players tend to play better at home. In the 489 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:12.079 postseason, as we have witnessed the Sun so usually it's an advantage. I 490 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.599 think the Suns, if they can win the rebounding battle, they can win 491 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.079 this game. If the Nuggets get after it, I think the Nuggets win. 492 00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.799 I would lean towards the Nuggets in Game five, but you know, 493 00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:28.039 Devin Booker and Kevin Durant at this level are capable of beating anybody at any 494 00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.319 time, so nothing would surprise me. Would you be concerned if you are 495 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:37.039 a Denver fan and you lost the two games where Yokits went for nearly thirty 496 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:42.440 twenty and twenty and then scored fifty and you came out with two lasses? 497 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.640 Definitely. I mean think about how Suns fans would feel if it was reversed. 498 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:50.720 And Devin Booker has his last two games in the first two games and 499 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.119 they lost. So yeah, it's a great point. And like I mentioned 500 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:55.720 earlier, I think the role players for the Nuggets right now are under more 501 00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:59.519 pressure than the Suns role players. You know, Aaron Gordon is one of 502 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:04.839 the more trusting you of A players of the last twenty years because nobody denies 503 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:08.119 the size, the strength, the athleticism in college in the NBA, and 504 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:14.599 he's just one of those guys though that always leaves you wanting more. Like 505 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:19.960 Sean Miller just had this habit of recruiting guys that looked the part and had 506 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.719 the skills for the part, but couldn't quite put it together, which is 507 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:27.079 interesting because that basically sums up Sean Miller as a head coach, where he 508 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.599 had everything in place but couldn't quite come over the hump. Like every all 509 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.679 the best players he recruited were like the Sean Miller version of players, and 510 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.679 watching Aaron Gordon at this stage of his career be the same kind of guy 511 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:45.800 where you're just like man with all of that natural talent, he's never really 512 00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:51.480 developed into a legitimate offensive player, and I thank Garon Gordon is a huge 513 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:54.800 X factor for the Nuggets in Game five. All right, Jody, the 514 00:34:54.920 --> 00:35:00.280 sons of the Nuggets Game five tomorrow at seven o'clock our time, Slee should 515 00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.239 be fun. Yes, Sarah looking forward to it. Appreciate the time. 516 00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:05.559 So OHI man, thank you for the time. Thanks a whole bunch, 517 00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.800 take care too, all right. The Jody Eitler Fox Sports nine ten and 518 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.440 Phoenix always a lot of good insight. He I mean, he's one of 519 00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.360 those guys who's watching the game, he's tweeting during the game. He's got 520 00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:17.599 he's got, you know, commentary during the games, pays a lot of 521 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.920 attention to it, does his job. So good to have Jody on. 522 00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:22.760 So let's go and take our breakword and come back. We'll take your cost 523 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.559 five two zero four, one seventy four forty thoughts on the Son's Game, 524 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.199 Son's Series. I know Howard's out there somewhere lingering. So Howard, you 525 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.920 can give us a call to see tell us what you think, so we'll 526 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.000 be right back. 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A Team offers a fun and 566 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:30.079 exciting opportunity to work in the sports and entertainment industry, with flexible schedules that 567 00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.519 are perfect for those looking for a part time job or a second income. 568 00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.719 Come be a part of a winning team The A Team apply online today at 569 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:45.119 a team security dot net breaking down all the excess at Alls. It's Steve 570 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:51.880 Lavera and Jagen Salvins. This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen 571 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.760 fifty. Welcome back on Bolling on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host, 572 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:59.480 Jaken Dollas. My buddy Steve is on one more day of vacation. 573 00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.800 He'll be back tomorrow. I've got Adam Gonzala's former sports information director at Arizona 574 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:06.519 in the house. He also happens to be my son. I I always 575 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:08.480 have to mention that Adam so that they know. And then we've got Devin 576 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:14.360 in turn. Devin here for his usual Monday Monday running the board, so 577 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:16.880 we've been talking about the Sun's you know, great stuff from Jody Aylor. 578 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:21.440 You had a you had a little disagreement with him on his opinion of Aaron 579 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:25.360 Gordon. Yeah. I just think he's gotten substantially better, like every single 580 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.639 year, especially offensively, Like he can shoot the ball. He's an unbelievable 581 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:34.800 athlete. But him playing with Yokich is perfect. He plays so well off 582 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.599 of him because of the way Yokich can pass from the from the post and 583 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.719 he just cuts to the rim and it's always open, always taking good shots. 584 00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:45.440 Yeah, he's gotten so much better offense. He's not an offensive juggernaut 585 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:49.199 or like the lead offensive player bat he means he scored a sixteen points a 586 00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.000 game, yeah, and shot and shot high percentage. Yeah, and there 587 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:53.039 and there's a thought that he should have been an All Star this year, 588 00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:55.440 right, I mean he was even close, you know. So if he's 589 00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:59.480 close enough, he has to have gotten better. If he's just one of 590 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:04.960 those like really good to elite like role players, fourth or fifty guys right 591 00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:07.719 right, All right, so um we are gonna we are. We've got 592 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:12.199 some other stuff to talk about, all kinds of gambling things going on. 593 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:16.000 There's more stuff coming out about these Iowa gambling allegations. Um, it's now 594 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:22.519 the number of athletes and a staffer at Iowa that has been busted for gambling 595 00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:29.480 is up to twenty six uh in football, men's basketball, track, wrestling, 596 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:34.079 baseball, and then one full time staffer. There are fifteen people that 597 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:38.039 at Iowa State who are who are implicated in some gambling stuff. And as 598 00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:42.280 you mentioned, Adam rule number one right when you're an athletic department employee, 599 00:40:42.519 --> 00:40:46.199 you just can't. That is literally rule number one. There there's always signs 600 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:51.840 around you know, uh, buildings within the athletic departments that says it just 601 00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:53.320 says, don't bet on it. Right. It's like they're slow. And 602 00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:58.840 it gets to the discussion that you know when when when the situation came up 603 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:02.559 with the Alabama baseball you got fired over uh you know he he was apparently 604 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:07.159 relaying information to a buddy of his who went and put some bets down on 605 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:12.239 LSU to beat Alabama because of some inside information that he had. You know, 606 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:15.480 people, because we knew this was going to happen, they never should 607 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:20.039 have legalized gambling when it's completely the opposite. And there's been a number of 608 00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.679 columns by by national sports writers just talking about the fact that if this stuff 609 00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:29.519 war is not legal, If all these guys are gambling underground with bookies and 610 00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:31.960 whatnot, they're not getting caught. This is how you get caught. You 611 00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:36.960 go do this stuff. You bet legally, there's there's monitors in place for 612 00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:45.239 the books to know who's gambling, even from where we talked about Stanley Barry 613 00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:50.360 Hill, the form Arizona athlete who got busted because he wasn't betting on his 614 00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:54.400 team, but he was gambling, and he was gambling within the facility at 615 00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:58.880 at the Buffalo Bills, and that's what he got in trouble for. You 616 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.760 know, they even they excuse me, the Lions, you know, they 617 00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:06.360 said, you can you know, if you're an NFL player, you can 618 00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.400 gamble on other sports legally, you just can't gamble on football, and you 619 00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:15.159 can't gamble within the facility. And you know, so Stanley apparently was gambling 620 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.360 on other stuff, but he did it from the facility, and that's what 621 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.440 he got in trouble for. There're a couple other guys who are gambling on 622 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.400 football and they've been suspended for a year now, and so you know again, 623 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:34.400 if you know, it can't reiterate or stress enough that the gambling being 624 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.000 legal, that's how these guys are getting caught. So I don't know the 625 00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.360 particulars of what's going on in Iowa, but what I can probably tell you 626 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.320 is that these guys are getting caught because they're gambling legally. People know they're 627 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.599 you know, there's a way to know if they're athletes or whatever. I 628 00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.880 don't know if there's a database or whatever somewhere and they're finding out and these 629 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:54.800 guys can't be gambling. So I, you know, I don't know what 630 00:42:54.920 --> 00:43:00.280 else to say other than guys be smarter, ye right, just be smarter. 631 00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:05.679 Holy cow, Holy cow. Anyways, Um, we're gonna talk in 632 00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.400 a little bit. We're gonna talk about the PAC twelth softball tournament coming to 633 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:14.039 Tucsons starting Wednesday. Unfortunately, Arizona had a bad weekend over the weekend and 634 00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.719 they dropped into the play in game. They've got to play as U on 635 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:22.679 Wednesday at six o'clock at hilden Brand and the winner of that goes on to 636 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:27.679 play top seeded UCLA, who was really damn good. I'm sure didn't have 637 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.719 this in mind the Arizona was hosting the first Battle of tournament, that Arizona 638 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:36.400 ASU would be playing the first round game, to playing and to be in 639 00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.719 the playing game. And you know, you know Arizona fans, right, 640 00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:42.960 if Arizona's night in it, it's gonna be tough to get them out there 641 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.039 to the to the tournament. You're gonna rely on other fans traveling with their 642 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:50.480 team. Shela would probably be the only other team that would really travel decently. 643 00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.000 Yeah, yeah, and so um, I don't know. Stanford is 644 00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:59.280 pretty well not Stanford never travels on anything, do they? They're not catching 645 00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:05.960 them? But but there, you know the baseball does baseball play at Stanford 646 00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:07.159 or at home? Again? I know they got Stanford this week, and 647 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.960 I don't know where if they play here or there? I think it's here, 648 00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:13.079 Okay, well there, maybe some of their fans will come and catch 649 00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.480 a little both because Stanford is pretty good, right, aren't they the two 650 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.199 seed? Yeah? I believe that the two seed in softball. But you're 651 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:22.280 right, it's probably not the greatest year to have to have the tournament here, 652 00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:28.599 but we are gonna have Kenzie Fowler former Arizona picture also a color analyst 653 00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.079 for Pac twelve Networks. She also does it for ESPN. She's gonna be 654 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:35.960 on the show here at about twenty after and a really good video producer in 655 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.639 the Athletic Department of Arizona help there you go. Awesome. She helped me 656 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:43.400 so much in the when I went to the NCAA tournament basketball. Oh okay, 657 00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:47.000 she like doing like what kind of stuff? Uh, edits and produces 658 00:44:47.079 --> 00:44:50.719 videos. I think she mean I have worked there in a bit, but 659 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.159 she probably shoots more stuff now. She was mainly like editing and producing and 660 00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:58.239 all that. Oh okay. She's really good. And she's really good at 661 00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.440 social media too. She would u she would run our Instagram during games. 662 00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:07.679 Okay, when when things were getting like serious, like oh, we're in 663 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:12.039 the final four series, She's like, let me take Instagram off your plate. 664 00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:14.760 All right, sounds good, all right. I haven't told her you 665 00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:16.360 were gonna be on, so she'll be happy to know that you're here. 666 00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:21.000 All right. Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome, all right, though, 667 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:22.800 would still love to take your calls five two zero four, one seventy 668 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.239 four forty What do you think about this thing with the suns? Uh ay 669 00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.840 about their series and you get. I mean, you just have to be 670 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:31.719 happy that they didn't do anything that can screw up this series, right by 671 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.559 suspending yogat or anything like that. It's a fun series. I mean, 672 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.760 all the series are great right now. Right The Knicks heat kind of stinks. 673 00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:45.000 I'm loving it. I'm loving it. That kind of stinks, like 674 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:51.880 just kind of gross, not fun, old nineties but cool. I know. 675 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.760 But it's it's an even series though, right, it's two one, 676 00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:59.360 Yeah, you know, I think and here's the thing. I think Heather 677 00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.719 sub stand actually better than the Knicks. Well, they're certainly playing better, 678 00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:06.440 I mean obviously, I mean they beat the number one seed. It's it's 679 00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:08.840 just kind of I might turn it on when I go, all right, 680 00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:14.159 what about this? The six or Celtics series, that's fun. I mean 681 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:17.079 set like six or Celtics, like they they're going at it. They hate 682 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:21.239 each other. Yeah, they are very much going at And the thing is 683 00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.199 the Sixers really want to beat the Celtics. They they don't beat the Celtics 684 00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:27.960 just kind of the things. So they're trying to get over that hump um. 685 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:30.360 Did you watch a game? I didn't catch the end of it, 686 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:34.239 and I'm glad. I didn't because I don't want to see James Harden winning 687 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.719 games. It's just I don't like him. But it was finally we saw 688 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.880 James Harden go back to his Houston days and having a very very efficient shooting 689 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.800 night as well as not to throw over the ball. Yeah, he played 690 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:51.519 really well. Yeah. The problem was at the end of that game was 691 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.840 real, real bone head decision by Jaylen Brown. I mean, let Joel 692 00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.239 and Be hit it two and tie the game whatever, not to collapsed. 693 00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:10.599 I could hit that shot, would have hit that shot, all right, 694 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:15.320 And then you got the Lakers Warriors tonight. You think the Lakers make it 695 00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:20.119 three one? Really? Why it's in La? Their role players are gonna 696 00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:24.199 play well. Lebron still has not like exuded all of his energy. Yeah, 697 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:28.679 I think this could be the day that the game he does. Are 698 00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.400 you rooting for somebody there, Lebron? You are? Lebron is kind of 699 00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:35.760 my guy, Okay, like wherever he's playing, it's kind of my guy. 700 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:37.880 He leaves the Lakers, I don't care. I want Lebron to win. 701 00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:42.519 I don't want the Lakers to win. Okay, he's my I mean 702 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.039 he's my like Michael Jordan's Yeah he is, you know, yeah, like 703 00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:49.480 I was, not Steph Curry. No, it's Lebron James. Do you 704 00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:53.119 like Steph Curry? I love it. I like him more and more Steph 705 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:59.000 or Lebron? Oh, you like Adam more and more because a lot of 706 00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:02.840 got this big smile your faces, don't like Lebron James because they're still so 707 00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:08.679 connected to Kobe. I'm a Heat fan. Why do I think Noah's a 708 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:15.119 Lakers fan? I'm the one that last summer we got in the conversation about 709 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:20.800 the Heat culture Heat cultures back. Well, you got a big smile on 710 00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:24.679 your face about Lebron. You are you're rooting for him at all from the 711 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:28.239 Heat from because he was with the Heat or do you not? Or do 712 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.159 you hate him because he left the Heat? Oh? No, I love 713 00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:35.519 Lebron. I want to see Lebron Heat finals remask from like the Bubble. 714 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.280 We've already seen it in the semi. I have a feeling we're gonna see 715 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:45.199 the exact same conference finals match up Boston's Heat Lakers Nuggets, and then we'll 716 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.159 see what ends up there. But wow, no, I was. I 717 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:51.639 was explaining to my four month old son, Will be when he gets a 718 00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.400 little older. I'll tell him about Lebron James. Yeah, all right, 719 00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:59.760 let's take this call higher on the air and I on the ball. All 720 00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.840 right, sure was its having a beer? Okay when you're talking, So 721 00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.760 did you you had, Jody? We did? Yeah, yeah, he's 722 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:12.320 he's So what did he say? You know, I'll set him straight. 723 00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.559 What did he actually? He did say he thinks the Sons can win tomorrow. 724 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.320 Um, he said, they gotta you know, they've got a rebound 725 00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:23.440 um and and and uh you know they if they cannot rebound the Nuggets and 726 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:28.280 do what they did yesterday, that they that they can win. And so 727 00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.920 okay, he feels pretty good about him. He's happy like all of us. 728 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:35.239 He's happy that no, nothing was done with this uh uh yokich uh 729 00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.280 thing with with shps. So, you know, Jody sounded actually kind of 730 00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:42.679 upbeat about the Suns. I don't know if you think that, Hey, 731 00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:49.119 the joker is unbelievable. I'm gonna tell you right now, they're they're making 732 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.880 all this issue by the owner of the Sons. He is an amazing That 733 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:57.400 guy is really good. And it's like, in my opinion, you know, 734 00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:02.840 play the race you know that he is better than Himdeed or Yannis the 735 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:07.880 Greek. No matter what those guys suck compared to him, I never really 736 00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:14.599 saw him till this year. The defense is a part of basketball. Offensively, 737 00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:17.679 he's a better player. Oh yeah, he's a better passer and rebounder 738 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:21.840 than either one of those guys. I'll say, those guys are better defensive 739 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:25.599 players. Fine, all right, so here, let me go out. 740 00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:29.440 Let me let me give you this Jay so we can tell you. Okay, 741 00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:31.519 you got about a minute. Okay, I know because they were coming 742 00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:37.639 out to it. Who have told been telling people whoever wins the Denver Suns 743 00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:42.000 series, who's going to win it? All? That's not going out of 744 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:46.320 the limit all because the heat and the Knicks and and uh Steve's Warriors are 745 00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:50.199 gone. That's three out of the out of him. And I agree with 746 00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:54.119 you Gay that the Lakers win this. The Warriors are gone, so we 747 00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:58.280 just have to beat the Warrior. That's gonna be who's gonna win it? 748 00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.679 The Warriors and the Sun's beak because I'm sorry, we're gonna we're gonna kick 749 00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:08.559 the Eastern Conferences representatives. But all right, well, there you have it 750 00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:12.840 from from from Howard. Howard, I will give you, I will give 751 00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:16.440 you this authority. Um, the Suns have the best one two punch and 752 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:21.719 generally in the NBA, if you have the better top players, you'll win, 753 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.480 all right. Yeah, the bench out scoring up forty to eleven. 754 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.960 Okay, there we go, all right, Howard, thanks so much, 755 00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.639 man talcu later. Okay, you know it's kind of on Howard. He's 756 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:35.000 a huge Suns fan, so I don't know if you know that, but 757 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:39.199 um, yeah, I mean two games ago, I thought the Suns were 758 00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:43.440 toasted. I mean, you gotta wait for it to go back to beings. 759 00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:46.280 Yeah, but they just look so bad, and particularly DeAndre, it 760 00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:50.360 looks so disinteresting. It's so much diffen when you get when you get to 761 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:52.639 play at home, that's when your your role players play. Well yeah, 762 00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:57.000 yeah, well anyway, so that games, that games tomorrow, you got 763 00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.960 the uh, you got the Knicks and the heat coming up at about four 764 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:04.559 thirty hour time, and then you've got Golden State and the Lakers tonight. 765 00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.199 So fun stuff to talk about it, all right, So let's take our 766 00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:08.800 break top of the hour. Devin's gonna be back with breaking news, and 767 00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:13.760 then Kenzie Fowler will join us. We'll talk about some pack twelve SAPTA. 768 00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:14.480 We'll be right back