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This is I on the Ball with
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Station. Welcome everybody, Good afternoon.

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This is I on your ball,
in the ball, on my eyes.

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Whatever you rather with me? Jay, what you do? I not Gronko

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right over man, I not home
over Gronk never I know. And he's

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still looking like he's gonna spike the
ball, but he was on his back

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for a second there. Well,
good afternoon, everybody. This is Iron

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the ball. You hoping for something
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he's jagon'saus. Got our boy Kevin back

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and we've already started a little chaotically, but we're fine. We're fine.

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Good to see everybody. Tomorrow's big
game. A good show today. No

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more about basketball, right, A
lot of basketball. A little change in

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the schedule because we posted that we
were going to play the Tommy Lloyd Press

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conference at three fifteen, but we've
been trying to get Ryan Hanson on,

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uh, you know, brought waxing
a little, a little nostalgic here.

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It's the last trip to UCLA.
Rhyano has been a part of the program

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for a lot of years. He
grew up in the conference, you know,

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kind of like I did, and
I was talking about yesterday. So

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Ryan is going to join us at
three three seventeen seventeen three twenty, and

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then we'll play the Tommy Lloyd press
conference in the last segment of the first

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hour, right, and then in
the next hour, we found an Elie

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Times guy, Ben Bultch, and
he'll get on the line with us and

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talk about tomorrow's game, and I'll
ask him about his situation with the UCLA

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Bruins. He I'm gonna joke with
him, of course, and I won't

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see what I want to say,
because he's had it tough the last year

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or so, Chip Kelly, Chip
and Crona. And then the job situation.

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Ellie Times is going through a lot
of stuff. Yeah, but he

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still has his job. So he's
one of the better ones in the conference.

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So we'll we'll talk to him about
everything everything. The next hour should

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be a lot of fun. Yep. The girls play at night, Well,

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we played a night played to night
at the seven o'clock our time,

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right, I believe six o'clock Vegas
time. Okay, I thought it was

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six hard because we're not on daylight
savings, right, or they're not on

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daylight saving this, I believe.
I believe there at seven o'clock two some

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times seven o'clock they play in Washington. Okay, so we'll we'll monitor that

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and probably talk about it tomorrow.
Big game for them. They need to

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win. Yeah, they need to
win. I think I think they still

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got some, you know, little
glimmer of hope that they make enough of

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a run to get into the NCAA
tournament. They would likely they not likely

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if they win, they play USC
in the second round, it'll be an

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opportunity to kind of Okay, let's
win that game and maybe we're in.

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What's been adirable about in my at
least from that team or about that team,

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is they haven't given up given all. You know, they started with

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nine I think it was the beginning
of the year, very thin already,

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and then they went to seven,
two more left or kicked off or whatever

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you want to say, and then
they're still working their butt off and working

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very hard, when you could have
easily said, you know, enough of

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this already. We don't need this
stuff. And I think, you know,

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for those people who are saying,
well, you know Ida, you

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know, you know, she loses
players and your players leave and she's hard

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hard to play for and stuff like
that. Well, look at the seven

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and and and and the work that
they're putting in and and what they're going

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through, and how much they you
know, those seven seem to be together

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and maybe, you know, in
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they could, maybe they did need
to weed some people out there. So

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auditioned by something that happens, you
know, happens a lot. You know

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sometimes uh, you know, you
clear the decks and you all of a

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sudden, you know, the clouds
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It's still hard because they've only got
seven players, but certainly they feel

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better about themselves once they're on the
court. Yeah, yeah, no question.

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Uh, what you'll find out is
what I'll ask Jay right now.

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And I'm sure you've been in the
corporate well know, you've been in the

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corporate world where you've had to say
goodbye to people that were good. But

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we're a pain in the ad,
we're bad teammates. Yeah, and then

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you figure out you find somebody else
who you cary right, right, you

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know, I mean I've told you
you know that's right. I mean I

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went through with a guy at the
TEP and I remember the CEO just said,

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Okay, we think he's really good, but you obviously run the department.

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Just know that we continue to expect
the level of work that he produced

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and that you and that you have
to produce. It was hard. It

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was hard because the guy was really
good, but he was a pain in

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the ass. Did they replace him
eventually? Oh? Yeah, Well we

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got to replace him. But I
never had anybody as adept at public relations,

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just the physical, not physical,
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I mean, the guy was incredible, but he was so bad at

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the rest of it. Well,
was he not a people person? No?

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Well, I mean to me,
to me, you could be.

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You could pull as much magic out
of your bucket as you want. If

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you can't deal with people, what
the hell are you there for? Well

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he got fired because he didn't know. He couldn't, for the life of

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him, could not figure out how
to supervise people. And he was a

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supervisor. Is the world of people
place? Yeah, exactly, he couldn't

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deal with the people, and he
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you know, the technical public relations
aspect of what we were doing. I

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mean he he ran circles around I
mean I but that's why I hired it,

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because he was really damn You hire
people who can act things you can.

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Then I put him in charge of
a couple of people and he could

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handle it. And ultimately he was
doing things that led me to have to

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fire the guy. Yeah, and
it was unfortunate. Well, you could

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have a great point guard center or
whatever. They don't get the memo.

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There's no more memos, right,
you know, enough of the memos.

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You gotta go sorry exactly and that
and that, and that's how happens,

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you know. And then you,
as the coach or whatever you want to

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call yourself, you gotta you gotta
own that. I got to take responsibility

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at the end of the day.
And then in fact, all uh bend

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this because yesterday Cronin said, who's
to blame for all this? And he

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says me, why not me?
He's a coach. Well he's been blaming

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other people all season, luck but
he not. Yeah, yeah, we'll

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ask been because true yeah, one
press conference after another. He's throwing guys

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under the past. We'll see any
chance he gets a team. Yeah,

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we'll talk about that. We'll talk
about with I'm gonna have to look that

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up before we get him on.
Yeah, it's just quick quotes. A

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well, that's been about that too, So looking forward to talking to Rhino.

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I saw the saw the the Tommy
Lloyd press conference. I saw you

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asked a couple of quick questions.
Uh. He was again some of the

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Christians were kind of strange though.
You know, you're aware that the final

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fours in Phoenix, right, you
know what? Yeah, yeah, and

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then he looks at you like,
of course I know, of course I

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know, and we care about it. We're trying to get there, but

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not right now, you know.
Yeah, we need to do in some

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game. That was interesting, okay, so we'll go some You know,

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it was very lightly attended. I
bet press conference. I bet uh well,

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I think uh. I think Jason
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Sheer was not there, Bruce was
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You were not there, yeah,
Brian Peterson was there. Yeah. So

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so one of one of the younger
guys thirteen was nothing thirteen was not there.

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Well, you know what, A
couple of the kids weren't there too,

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because the spring break. The kids
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So about six of us. Yeah, some of the real jobs that we

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can't get to. So I watched
on the on the show, Who's the

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guy? Was there? A kid
was there? Yeah? Yeah, he

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was the guy. He he came
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on our show one time. The
player. Oh, I I left before

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they brought the player and I got
out of here. Okay, I can't.

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I hustle over here. And we
saw I got the clips into the

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into the computer with fifty eight seconds
left before the show. So I mean

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we we cut that as tight as
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So we'll get to that throughout the
show me or second half of this hour,

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after the after right after, after
the Ryan Hanson interview, after that

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break, we'll we'll go through the
clips and we'll play we'll play most of

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them we want. We we were
playing on playing the whole thing, but

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because we're using my recording of it, the question, you can't hear the

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questions, so it doesn't really do
any good to just play the answer.

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So we'll introduce each clip and we'll
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of it as we can. Right, Okay, next Friday, Next Monday,

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we talked to Desiree read Francois.
Okay, that's when Monday. So

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we'll have some stuff from her her
first week of the work, similar to

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what we did with with Brent Brannan, will have where we get ten minutes,

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get ten minutes, we'll sit down, we'll record it, and then

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we'll play it for you. That's
as plus, we're going to get to

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her right now. But you know
she's going in the back twop tournament as

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well. I'm sure she's up up
in Vegas right now. I think she's

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gonna be Yeah. Maybe I was
just gonna tease her already because you know

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how Jeff Fish was a pretty good
social media guy. It looks like she's

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the similar. Oh yeah, she's
on Instagram a lot. Answer. She's

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not a Facebook on Twitter. Maybe
on Twitter. I saw. I don't

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want to have to be going on
Instagram to get her stuff on Instagram him.

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Uh, she was strolling through the
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or maybe this morning before before anything. Uh, So Vegas it is the

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next couple of weeks here now,
can you feel things speeding up right now?

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Like what like us? You know, just we're just you know that

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slow. Yeah, be twelve you
cee l A U C l A coming

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up. You know, it's a
big weekend for for men's basketball. Then

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we go into the tournament and C
double A. I feel like we got

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our foot on the gas and we're
starting to you know, get up to

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jack it up a little bit.
Right, Well, you gotta get the

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road of Wickenberg. I'm flying this
time, man, I'm flying to you.

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We're got a bunch of we have
a motley crew of reporters getting off

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Arald. I don't know if I
told you the story of when we drove

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up for the West Regional last year. Oh, I still got the picture

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of that guy with a you know, packing and packing the side army.

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He's changing our tires. Deliberate music. Yeah yeah, yeah, you Banjo's

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dude that But I know that's what
he was trying to do. Deliverance,

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Yeah, said that was just it
was it was, it was, it

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was deliverance. We were like,
we need to keep an eye on each

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other. Do anybody disappear for a
second. We need to know where everybody

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is about. Pretty funny, Yeah, especially over and we were not on

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the main drag of Wickenburg. Okay, we were off, we were off

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to the side. It was pretty
fun right, Okay, Uh, anything

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else? Remember the phone call phone
number five two four one, six seventy

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four forty. We'll have some calls. So you can call us now if

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you'd like for a second. Uh, next off to the rhino. Uh

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taping or not taping interview. Well, we'll be ready for you then too,

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so you can call us while we're
playing the the clips. But uh,

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you know, it's interesting that you
know Tommy's approached He's okay, we're

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you know, you'll see you'll hear
him say we're done with Michael. He

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called it like a new start,
right because they're all the home games are

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over with. We're on the road
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know, we got this weekend,
we got the packed off tournament, we

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got the NUBAA tournament, and uh
and kind of a really interesting uh sense

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of how he's approaching this with his
team. Yeah, because I don't want

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to speak out of time. I'm
pretty sure Tommy is one of these coaches.

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But he's one of the coaches.
The season season in quarters almost it's

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like the maybe first quarter of the
season is what we have to do to

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see in the second quarter, it's
almost like a game within the game,

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right, So he might just see
this as like, all right, we're

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in the final quarter of the season
here, like we got to make something

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work because he's winning time. Yeah, it's almost like like these two games

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coming up are sort of part of
their postseason, right because they know that

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they got, you know, they
got to win these two games to win

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the Pack Culp Championship. He knows
Washington State is right there, They're probably

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gonna be at Washington and they got
you know, a tough trip ahead of

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him, and he fully expects these
guys to, uh, these guys to

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be to be ready. I didn't
cut the clip on USC. I thought

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we could use it uh tomorrow Friday, But you know, he just the

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fact that, you know, the
USC team that came here is not the

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USC team that they're going to face
up there on Saturday. Do you have

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a lot of breaking news? You
know? Okay, So let me said,

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did you see that the interview with
Saban? I guess yesterday or today

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or whatever it was. I saw
the story and he said one of the

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reasons why, one of the reasons, not the main reasons why he why

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he retired was because after they lost
to Michigan, his players were cranky and

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they're acting like poor sports and just
not the players that he played. That

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was part of it. And here's
a quote, and you'll guys like this.

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I thought we could have a expletive
of a team next year. And

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then maybe seventy or eighty percent of
the players you talk to, all they

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want to know is two things.
What assurance do I have that I'm going

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to play because they're thinking about transferring? And how much am I going to

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get paid? Our program here was
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create for your future and your personal
development academically and graduating and developing for an

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NFL career on the field, So
that kind of, you know, he

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started to I'm sure he started to
see it before, but now it became

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more interesting how much am I gonna
get paid? And am I gonna play?

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We'll say, when I walked in
the Doug Gottlieb Show was on overhead

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and here here in the studio and
I caught the tail end of that quote.

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I didn't know who said it,
so I thought he was I thought

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it was Chip Kelly because I know
if you saw what Chip Kelly said.

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Yes, no, but I think
I saw the reasons why. And we'll

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talk to Ben because he tweeted some
stuff too. But you could put Jagan

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zaliz Is the coach Jaginsawaz on this
court. You could put every quote,

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every coach on this quote, right, because that's just what about me?

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How much play time? How much
am I going to? Andy Lopez,

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Mike Andre, Dave Rubio, and
they're thankful they don't have to be put

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on that right spot? Right.
Yeah, you might even be able to

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put Dave Hekey in there. See, you know, just the fact just

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what that what matters to athletes?
You know, you get a guy like

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Dave Hekey who was all about the
athlete experience, right, but this isn't

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the athlete, No, he's talking
about and sure not what they're signed up

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for. Yeah yeah, okay,
all right, okay, well we have

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a caller. Come but listen,
do we can do real quick just take

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it in real higher on the air
and on the ball. Yeah, I

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want a couple of quick comments about
women's basketball. Okay, it's got to

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be real quick. Okay. Number
one, they beat Stanford with seven ladies.

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They gave sc all they could handle
was seven ladies. And I think

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physically, I think by the time
they played UCLA, I think physically there

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was a lot of wear and tear
on them and it caught up. But

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I definitely believe if I'm a tournament
team, I don't want to play Arizona

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and I'm really hoping that they get
the chance to play in the NC two

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way because I think they burned it
well. I think a lot of people

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would agree with you. And it
starts tonight for them. We'll see what

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they do. Yeah, all right, all right, thank you for calling.

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We appreciate it. Thanks. All
right, Okay, let's go and

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take our break. We're going to
come back change the schedule. Ryan Hanson

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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve
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phone, we have Ryan Hansen,
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analysts for the other station twelve ninety
covering the Cats a long time. You

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have a guy historian, Canager grew
up in this thing, right, yeah,

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yeah, you got you gonna miss
the Pac twelve and what we used

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to know of it, Oh,
absolutely right. I when it first came

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down that this thing was breaking up, right when USC and UCLA said we're

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out, I was sad. It
was like, is that possible? And

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then I kind of got numb to
it because it didn't seem real. And

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then I got excited about the Big
twelve. And then now that we will

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probably not see Washington State, Washington, Cal, Stanford, USC maybe ever

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again, or at least for the
foreseeable future inside McHale and I'm holding out

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hope for UCLA and Oregon possibly.
That's sad to me. There's some great

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rivalries, some great matchups, right, Steve, You and I have talked

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about this for years. Jay,
you and I have hit hit each other

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up on the Washington runs when they
had Brandon Roy and Lorenzo Romar and the

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Stanford teams with Mike Montgomery. It
just it's kind of sad that we will

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not have that when we're playing Arizona
and Iowa State. There's just not a

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rich history Arizona Cincinnati. Not a
lot of things to fall back on.

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A couple of games in there,
right, not that, not that year

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in, year out rivalry. But
right now, I don't know. I

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don't know how old you are,
but I believe I'm guessing that the Pac

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ten Arizona was in the Pac ten
before you were born. I am forty

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nine. I was alive during the
merge. Okay, my first couple of

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games would have been Wack Conference with
Joe Mels and Ma Cruz. Okay,

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all right, but close, all
right, See, I thought you were

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younger than you are, So there
you go. There's a little there's a

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little compliment there. But you know, I was nineteen when when Arizona,

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you know, in its first year
in the pack, in the pack,

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and I was so excited as a
kid, right as a teen. I'm

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a college student, I'm at the
U, and I'm like, we're gonna

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you know, we're not going to
be playing in Colorado State and Wyoming anymore.

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I'm playing USC and UCLA and the
excitement of that and then to see

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you know that that I felt that
at that time, and then to see

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that it's gone, I mean,
it's gone. To me, it all

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ends next week, I know.
There. You know, I've said there's

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baseball, there's softball, there's other
sports going on. But you know,

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the Pac ten and Pac twelve that
I grew up with was all about football

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and basketball, and it's over next
week. And the thought of that just

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I depresses the hell out of me
right now. Yeah, it's an interesting

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thought process when you go back to
that, that transition, right Arizona and

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ASU were moving up. They were
the ones that left at their own wishes

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up in a conference into a potential
you know. Now they were playing for

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Rose Bowls, they were playing for
automatic berths in the nca tournament, you

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know, and could go deeper because
of the competition that they were going to

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play, right, So, there
was a level of excitement that I'm sure

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some of the longtime fans wished there
could carry on the rivalry with New Mexico

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and New Mexico State some of the
other teams. I'm sure there was a

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feeling of quote unquote loss for that
those rivalries, but there was such greener

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pastures. This feels to me a
little lateral like unnecessary, a little lateral

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better in some worse than others.
So let's talk or waxpotic called the UCLA

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series through the years. Any ones
that stick out to you, I have

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a few. There's a number that
stick out for good and for bad,

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right, so, uh, of
course I'll go back to the worst one

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ever, the streak ending with Derek
Martin knocking down the shot. But in

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and amongst that, I have such
fond memories of the hatred running through my

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veins for Trevor Wilson and Don McClain
and Reggie Miller and those guys that era

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that really made us hate those guys, Walt Hazard Roman the sidelines, and

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then and then it started to evolve
more with the Jim Herrick and the O'Bannon

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brothers. So there were some great
stuff there. I remember Brian Williams had

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a colossible game at Pavilion, Yes, that was that one sticks out in

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my mind. I remember Chris Mills
hitting a baseline jumper at Polly Pavilion to

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send the game into overtime that ultimately
helped us win. I believe a Conference

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champ being shipped. Selina Statomai are
hitting a three at the top of the

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key in two thousand and five in
McHale Center sticks out in my mind.

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I'm Steve, I'm sure you recall
back to the two thousand and two comeback

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in the second half against UCLA nineteen
points. It was kind of reminiscent of

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the first game this year against UCLA
where Arizona had to overcome a massive neficit

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in the first half. No,
you're bringing up some great points to the

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Flalo. The Selima over a Flollo
shot right right after entering half court.

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I remember Luke just had to be
nineteen ninety three, ninety four or maybe

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ninety five, because Joe McCay was
on the team at the time, and

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Luke being so furious, he pounded
the table at Polly and got the attention

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to the scorekeepers and it made a
story, and I think I made in

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my book, one of my books, because I had to go find the

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scorekeeper and he says, yeah,
it was kind of strange because you know

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Luke would get fiery, but never
do that. That was something out of

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the ordinary. And he did that
because he got a call that was it

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was a bad call I think made
McClain was pushed underneath the basket or something.

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Speaking of Joe McClain, I know
that for sure it was Joe McClain.

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I remember the game vividly. Joe
got called for an over the back

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call on a rebound with like less
than two seconds in the game, and

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that was a one of a number
of bad calls that led to a loss

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for Arizona. And if I recall
correctly, in the last eleven minutes of

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that game, U C l A
was called for one file well loot off

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and at this point, if this
sports coke didn't go into the stands,

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you knew was right. You know, there's a little one that sticks in

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my mind, and I don't know
why this one sticks, but it always

408
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.960
because it happened right in front of
me and involves Joe McClain UCLA here and

409
00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:45.079
McLean had like he'd fallen to the
ground and he's on his back. No

410
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.319
no, no, not not Joe
McClean, but you're talking about Don McLean.

411
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:52.480
No, Joe McLean's on his back. And Don mcclan walks up,

412
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.960
puts his hand out to help him
up, and pulls his hand. I

413
00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.680
thought that was Bushler. Maybe what
that would have been Butchhler. Okay,

414
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.519
okay, one of eight years apart, So that would have been Bushler that

415
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:11.880
Don McLain pulled the with the handshake. Oh yeah, what's amazing now.

416
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:15.839
I think Don mcclan would do that
today. Matt Muellbach was pushed down.

417
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.880
He would probably pull the on today. I know that in the book that

418
00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.680
Anthony did a story about the U
c l A players you love to hate.

419
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:26.920
Okay, So there's a long a
whole bunch of a long list,

420
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:33.079
right, you know Tracy Murray Miller, who's the worst probably in your time?

421
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:38.920
You remember one that you we haven't
mentioned? How about Baron Davis as

422
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:42.680
a guy. Toby Bailey was the
guy that not not too many people love.

423
00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:48.480
Right, there's an Ottawan Petusca,
remember that big dude Petsca. Yeah,

424
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:53.720
Richard Petrusca, Yeah, I remember
him. Don Martin, Well,

425
00:27:53.839 --> 00:28:00.119
Martin was the one that uh Derek
Martin Martin. I mean just just I

426
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.480
hit it a great shot and being
a great player. People hated it just

427
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:08.519
because you know this. And I
think I can recall Lute and Herrick their

428
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:14.880
relationship. It was better off the
court than it was on, oh for

429
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:18.880
sure. Right, And it's amazing
coach. Coach Olsen, as you know,

430
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.559
had had a high respect for a
handful of guys, but yet it

431
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:29.720
ratcheted up his desire to beat them. And Mike Montgomery probably top that list

432
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:33.039
where he had a very very high
respect for him as a coach. But

433
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.119
when it was time to play Stanford, boy cranked it up a notch.

434
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:40.640
And I think Herrek was also in
that mold and clearly and Herk led the

435
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:45.319
Bruins to the ninety five national title. So he had the credentials for a

436
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.599
great coach because of he hung a
banner in PAULI. But yeah, coach

437
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:55.079
coach, I loved to beat UCLA
and growing up as a coach as a

438
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:59.119
high school coach and then at Long
Beach City College and Long Beach State there

439
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:03.279
in the shadows of Paul Pavilion,
coach Olson kind of had a love for

440
00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:10.279
UCLA because of his relationship with John
Wooden. And I'm guarantee you was Lut's

441
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.960
kind of measuring stick. How we
played against UCLA was his own personal measuring

442
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.440
stick of where he was in life
as a coach, and if he could

443
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:23.119
beat UCLA consistently, then he had
arrived. He was doing his job and

444
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.079
had made it. You know,
if we want to talk to villains,

445
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.240
let's talk about Walt Hazard for just
that couple of years. Oh my god,

446
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:34.759
I don't know what you thought at
that time? Was Walt somebody that

447
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:41.279
Lucas didn't have time for? Because
what was groucy? What was groucy?

448
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.200
I don't know if Lut I kind
of like your phrase, Jay that I

449
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.200
don't know if Lut had as much
time for him. I don't think he.

450
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:51.200
I don't think he disliked him,
but I think he may not have.

451
00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:55.039
They weren't great during the Hazard years. If you recall, there were

452
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.640
some good teams. They were up
and down in a couple of really really

453
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:04.039
good players that they weren't going consistently
winning championships and going deep into the tournament.

454
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.119
Right, those were the years that
Washington was winning the conference title,

455
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:14.880
work and State was making runs at
the Pac ten Conference championship. It wasn't

456
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:19.000
a consistently UCLA Arizona run just yet. I was kind of towards the end

457
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:23.480
of the Hazard era. Do you
remember the story? And if you don't

458
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.640
know, I'll like to tell it. Miller. Miller was being recruited by

459
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:32.119
loot here back in the day and
Miller came to visit. Did you ever

460
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:36.599
hear the story about him being recruited
here? That not the Reggie Miller.

461
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:40.440
When when you finished that, I've
got a Jason Capono. Every guy,

462
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:44.279
yeah Capono, Yeah, sharpshooter.
So he comes in, I guess at

463
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.960
nineteen eighty six, eighty seven,
and him and Whiteman are obviously close,

464
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.359
right, Lton and Whiteman. So
they take a Miller to the house of

465
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:56.039
the White Men's you know in the
policehows up north and he goes in and

466
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.720
they show him around, and Craig
as the kid at that time, I

467
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.759
don't know, eight ten, maybe
years old, and you walk around in

468
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:08.279
Craig being Craig shows of Miller.
Hey, come in the backyard. Let

469
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:11.200
me show you something. We had
to have some snakes in the backyard.

470
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:18.519
And Miller's the greatest snakes if you
have snakes here, right, covied year

471
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:23.359
not good? Right. There's good
things and bad things about the on campus

472
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:30.559
visits. But I remember we recruited
Jason Capono very hard at the same time,

473
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.839
same year recruiting class as Luke Walton
and Ricky Anderson and those guys were

474
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:37.799
it was kind of like, hey, we could take one or two of

475
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:41.880
those guys, but couldn't take all
three. And Luke committed first, Richard

476
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:47.440
Jefferson jumped in there, and then
Ricky Anderson grabbed one of the scholarship spots.

477
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.559
But then towards the end of those
guys' careers, I can still recall

478
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:55.839
and COO may not admit that this
happened, but I heard it with my

479
00:31:55.960 --> 00:32:00.119
own ears that told Luke, I
think his senior year, looking back,

480
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:05.759
I wish I could have played for
you, And so I know he had

481
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.720
a high respect for Loodles for sure, right right, Well, And you

482
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:12.640
use that word because in spite of, you know, the bitterness of some

483
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.039
of the rivalries, of some of
the rivalry games and stuff like that,

484
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.880
you did feel that the two programs
had a lot of respect for each other.

485
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.680
Recruited recruited the players. I mean
there was years where the starting five

486
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:29.559
of each team were recruited by the
other team. Hard like it almost was

487
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.440
down to the last two. I
mean, Tracy Murray and Wayne Womack were

488
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:37.319
best of friends growing up in high
school. One comes to Arizona, one

489
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:42.440
comes to Ucla and guess what we
recruited both UCLA recruited both that could have

490
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:47.000
very easily been Tracy Murray in an
Arizona uniform and Wayne Womack in a Bruin

491
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:51.400
blue, which I just can't can't
see that in my mind right, But

492
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:57.160
there was so much respect because it
was similar players, best of the West.

493
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.119
Both teams went deep and you and
I have talked about this, guys

494
00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.200
all the time, and I still
believe it to be true. And this

495
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:10.480
year is case endpoint. When UCLA
and Arizona are good, the conference gets

496
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:16.519
swag nationally, it gets repid Street
credibility. When one or both are down,

497
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:21.000
the league is down. Right.
What's happening this year? Boys?

498
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:25.400
It's a two bid league. It's
a point partly because Ucla is not UCLA.

499
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.599
If Ucla was the same Bruin program
we've seen when they're at their best

500
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:35.400
and Arizona is in the top ten, I guarantee you this is the five

501
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.880
or six bid league because of that
a lot, you know, getting back

502
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:43.519
to the whole, the whole respect
thing. And again another moment that that

503
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.000
struck me, and this I think
this happened while I was still covering the

504
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:50.880
team because I had to have been
there for a shoot around before and before

505
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:54.279
in Arizona Ucla game here, Michale
and we used to get to go to

506
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:59.759
the shooter rounds, right, and
I remember there's the Arizona guys are coming

507
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.720
off court and here comes the UCLA
guys and I'm like, okay, I

508
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:06.720
got to see this, right,
thinking, okay, you know, are

509
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:07.800
they going to you know, glare
at each other? What are they going

510
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.719
to do? And they're all coming
and they're all hugging each other, saying

511
00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:15.119
what's going on? You know,
and getting back to what you just said

512
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.159
about you know that these guys were
all friends and they were just happened to

513
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:22.559
wind up on separate teams and a
mon like their buddies. And tomorrow or

514
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:25.119
later today, they're going to be
going at it in a way that you

515
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:30.760
you know, not a lot of
other rivalries do. And it was fascinating

516
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:35.119
to me to see that. It's
a slightly different era though, right Jay,

517
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.639
And when you look at it now
with the foreign infusion of players on

518
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:45.519
both rosters, the transfer portal where
Arizona's got Caleb and key Shot who maybe

519
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:50.239
don't fully fully appreciate that rivalry because
they haven't had you know, they've played

520
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:54.000
UCLA in those an these down years
where Pella and Umar have those battles at

521
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:58.800
the PAC twelve tournament coming down to
the last play two years in a row.

522
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:04.119
They probably have that hatred. But
what's interesting is I don't think there's

523
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.199
as many Ruins that Arizona has recruited, and I don't think there's that many

524
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:14.280
Wildcats that UCLA has recruited. So
it's a different era from what you and

525
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:19.000
I have have. So, you
know, lovingly and maybe nostalgically looked back

526
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:23.079
at that era by gone times of
the nineties, eighties and nineties and into

527
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:28.800
the two thousands, the rivalry remains, but it's taken a different form.

528
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.800
Right when you think of Steve Alford
and Sean Miller added a lot of extra

529
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.480
flavor with the timeout in the last
minute of the game when the game is

530
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.679
out of hand, Right, that
was kind of fun. It was fun

531
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:45.000
to elevate the rave the hair on
the back of everybody's neck. But it's

532
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:49.159
taken on a different form. Wasn't
he touched the ball against You said I

533
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.800
was against Ucla. Yes, in
the past journey was Yes, it was

534
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:57.519
Michael Irving is finally allowed back on
the court. That all games what would

535
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:01.039
be on a ten year pan?
I think yeah. His picture was at

536
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:07.519
the border checkpoint coming into Azon said
you can't go pass here. Well,

537
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.480
right, we can talk days about
this, at least more time, but

538
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:14.199
we've already run out of time.
Got to go to commercial. Thanks a

539
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:16.039
bunch, Rhyo for coming on.
Appreciate it you. That'd be a good

540
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:22.119
one against the Bruin. Thanks on
you we could go. I looked at

541
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:23.280
the clock and I said, you
forgot this at the clock, but know

542
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:25.960
you didn't. We're doing We're out, Okay, all right, we're gonna

543
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:30.280
come back. We've got some Tommy
Lloyd press conference clips for you, some

544
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.719
interesting comments about a lot of different
things, and so we'll play that for

545
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585
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want to Oh no, no,
we're gonna do some clips. Yeah,

586
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:37.159
we talked about where am I to
son Arizona stek all right, we're talking

587
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:42.639
about the interesting approach that that that
Tommy Lloyd is making about. We're done

588
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:45.280
with Michael, we're moving on.
This is the clip that he talks about.

589
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:50.599
You know, Okay, the question
was basically about you realize the final

590
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:52.880
fours in Phoenix? What do you
you know? Are you guys trying to

591
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:55.239
get their kind of thing with very
funny question, but well, well here's

592
00:39:55.280 --> 00:40:00.280
his answer. I mean, I
love how it sets up. And we're

593
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:05.519
done with Michail done and it's it's
time to move on and play away from

594
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.559
here. So I mean, I
couldn't for ask for a better ending.

595
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:13.880
You know, I'm not talking Pac
twelve. You guys can get all you

596
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:17.400
know, philosophical and emotional and sentimental
about that. I'm just saying, you

597
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:21.639
know, for us to go out
and finish the season on the road,

598
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:23.760
it's good because we're gonna have to
play, you know, really well away

599
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:25.920
from home the rest of the year, so you know, and I think

600
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.960
we have been playing well away from
home as of late, so let's keep

601
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:31.800
it going. It's funny when I
was listening to that and I was kind

602
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:36.440
of smiling, uh you, and
he said, you guys can be philosophical,

603
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.000
bubboll, and I was thinking to
myself, Yeah, he's only been

604
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:42.840
here three years. He does he's
not fully invested. He's not even a

605
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.480
little invested in the in the history
of the meeting, of the fact that

606
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:49.320
this last game. Yeah, it's
like, just let's play. I don't

607
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.079
I don't care about other stuff.
Well, here, there's a there's a

608
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:54.199
clip to that he was asked about. You know, I mean, he

609
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:58.280
he obviously, and he's in the
West Coast. He's the West Coast,

610
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.760
guys, obviously, knows about the
rivalry, so we'll here's what he had

611
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.840
to say about the ending of the
rivalry. Well, you know, hopefully

612
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.480
the the memories will stay recent because
we'll continue to play them, you know,

613
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.760
so you know, and listen,
I know that there's a good chance

614
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.039
we'll have to play you know,
obviously you say once, maybe twice more

615
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:22.360
this year. So I know the
rivalry is important to both fan bases,

616
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:24.360
you know. I I don't get
too caught up in that, you know,

617
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:28.639
because I just have to try to
prepare my team to play against their

618
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:31.840
team, and and so any anything. You know that the past history really

619
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:37.519
has nothing to do with this game. But but emotions are involved for the

620
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.519
fans, and I understand that.
I don't know if they're the emotions are

621
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.719
as strong for you know, the
current players or the current coaching staffs.

622
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.440
But but I recognize how special the
you know, both brands are and what

623
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:52.519
they've meant in the history of college
basketball, and you know, and it's

624
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:55.039
an honor to be participating, you
know, as as a coach of one

625
00:41:55.079 --> 00:41:59.360
of the teams. You know,
it gets back to what Ryan Hanson was

626
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:02.599
talking about that, you know,
the where it used to be that these

627
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.239
guys well recruited by both the SILA
and USA. They don't really don't have

628
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:08.920
that anyway. These guys are coming
from all over the place, partly because

629
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:12.800
of the transfer port. Yeah,
yeah, kids, I don't think it

630
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.480
kids today. Maybe they did it
in the back of the day. But

631
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:17.719
it's it's let me play, let
me don't care. I just want to

632
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.079
I don't only care what I'm worrying. It's funny too, because I've been

633
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.519
seeing in the stuff that I feeds
that I watch a lot of the jet

634
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.639
fists. I don't know why it's
popping up, but it's a lot.

635
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:30.800
And he's wearing the purple w And
then I see Tommy with this, you

636
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:35.039
know, U a sweater, a
little quarter cut, and I'm thinking,

637
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:38.880
these guys must have tremendous amount of
swag from other schools. You know what

638
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.639
I'm saying, come back, you
know how the number of places that the

639
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:45.400
jet has for sure? Yeah,
Kevin O'Neil, Kevin Hill, I don't

640
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:46.920
remember this joke, but he'd come
in. He says, yeah, you

641
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:50.760
know, I've been all over the
place. I just burned my stuff at

642
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:55.599
the previous time, so you know, he has no clothes burned. I'm

643
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:59.440
still debating if I set my pack
twelve stuff on fire. No, no,

644
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:06.519
it to me because I like you, because it helps me, all

645
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:10.360
right, So he was he was
obviously asked about the last U c l

646
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:14.599
A game and how that went,
and so you just, you know,

647
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:16.599
had some comments about you know,
the fact that they came back and won

648
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:21.639
that game. Well, I mean, it was a frantic and panic game,

649
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:22.840
you know, I mean, they
they jumped us a little bit,

650
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.480
and you know, I mean,
and you got to give them credit.

651
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:29.519
They came in here and earned the
lead. And I'm sure we made mistakes,

652
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.000
but you know, mistakes happened in
basketball, and they capitalized on our

653
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:37.199
mistakes. So and then then we
scratch and clawed and found a way.

654
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:39.960
You know, I was proud of
that effort, but but I was also

655
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:44.679
you know, I'm aware, you
know, of how good UCLA can be,

656
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.480
and and you know, obviously we
got we gotta play better, you

657
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:51.159
know, going on the road to
give ourselves a chance to win than we

658
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.719
did, you know, in that
first half, and earning that second half

659
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:59.920
against them. If that start happens
again, which you know it probably won't,

660
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:01.920
there's no way they're going to be
well, he said, after that

661
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.159
game, you know we won that. We can't we were able to come

662
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.480
back and win this game because it
was years at home, So we can't

663
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:10.119
do that or they can't do that. So I asked him, Okay,

664
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:14.199
what's you know, what's the difference
between U c l A, that U

665
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.639
c l A team that you saw
here and the one that you're gonna see

666
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:21.519
tomorrow night. You know, no, no, I mean not in particular.

667
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:23.000
I mean I think that I don't
know if they've had any major injuries

668
00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:27.840
that I've noticed. You know,
they're they're definitely a better team now than

669
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:29.920
they were at the start of the
year. And you know, I think

670
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:32.559
guys, are you know, comfortable
with the roles that they're playing. You

671
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:36.639
know that they have a force inside
and Bona that's just a he's just a

672
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:38.960
really good player and he's a lot
to deal with that, you know,

673
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:43.360
on both ends of the floor.
So and then those guards have you know,

674
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.480
gotten comfortable and confident and you know, I mean, I know,

675
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:50.440
to me, they're they're a good
ball club, you know. I mean,

676
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:52.480
I think you you take away you
know, some of those losses they

677
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:57.159
had early in the season and and
and just focus on you know, there

678
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:01.719
are more recent stuff that they they're
pretty good. Yeah, they looked the

679
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:05.800
same to me, and they were
playing better, but they didn't look so

680
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.519
good last week. So I don't
know. We'll see what Again, it's

681
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:12.159
a matter of, you know,
where are their heads at for this series?

682
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:15.239
Do they really want to play this
and play out the season or are

683
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:17.119
they just sick of it? And
one wanted to be over with Yeah,

684
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:22.639
yeah, we'll see. He had
other topics too. I guess he talked

685
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:27.840
about you your question to comparing love
to somebody right now? Yeah, there

686
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.199
was that. Well I got,
I got a season high three questions in

687
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:34.599
today they did because there's nobody there. Yeah, well partly and next one,

688
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.119
well I did ask him. I
said, you know, Colin Boswell's

689
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.119
put a couple of really nice games
together, back and back. You know,

690
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:42.920
do you notice, you know,
when a guy's going well? Does

691
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:45.119
he have a little more bounce in
his step? Can you tell when they're

692
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:49.920
on the court that, uh,
you know that things are going well for

693
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:53.119
them? And what do you see? Well, I mean you can notice

694
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:55.719
when guys are playing well, you
know, I mean sometimes you know,

695
00:45:55.880 --> 00:46:00.039
you can see you know, basically, you know, than playing with joy

696
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:07.440
and excitement. But you know,
I would hope that you know, how

697
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:12.760
a guy his body language looks doesn't
necessarily reflect that he's playing good or bad.

698
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.000
You know, we we want guys
to be locked in and be playing

699
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.440
with effort energy, no matter how
well things are going for them individually.

700
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:21.760
But but you know, Kylon's growing. He's a good player. He's a

701
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:23.320
good player. He's just you know, he's had he's had an up and

702
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:29.400
down year like I think ninety nine
point nine percent of every other freshman or

703
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.800
eighteen year olds in the country,
you know, and and uh, you

704
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:35.280
know, he's a huge part of
what we do. And we have a

705
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.840
lot of belief in him. It's
funny because you know how I feel about

706
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.199
that. He's sure, he's eighteen, right, but he's got a lot

707
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.679
of games behind him. He's going
to be a junior here and in a

708
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:50.079
month pretty much. Yes, game
wise, he's going to be a junior.

709
00:46:50.840 --> 00:46:53.800
So enough of the age thing.
Yeah, exactly, and no exactly,

710
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:58.800
I mean it. He's he's he's
an old grizzled veteran. Yeah,

711
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:01.440
he really is. Who is one
of the at one time a few months

712
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:06.639
ago was considered an NBA prospect right
at a very high level. I think

713
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.440
he slipped a little with that,
but in time he'll rEFInd it. Yeah,

714
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:15.800
yeah. And then I asked him
if Caleb Caleb Love uh reminds him

715
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:20.440
of anybody that that he coached,
and you mentioned a guy, but then

716
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.199
he went into what he thinks of
how Caleb Love is playing. You know,

717
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:25.480
I mean a little bit like,
uh, you know, there's a

718
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:29.880
guy we had at Gonzaga named,
you know, Zach Norvel, you know,

719
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:31.920
who was a wing player that you
know, he's lefty, that was

720
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:36.960
different but just really talented offensively,
and you know, you know, could

721
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:42.480
had no problem getting up a high
volume of shots and in making tough shots.

722
00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.239
You know, Caleb is a special
player, and and he's having a

723
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.440
special year. And you know,
I'm sure there's gonna be a bunch of

724
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.599
accolades and awards coming his way,
you know, whether that's you know,

725
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:58.239
player of the Year type stuff or
or you know, all American type stuff.

726
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:00.760
But you know, we don't talk
about that, and that that that

727
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:05.159
stuff will be a byproduct of of
how our team performs, and and and

728
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.519
he's deserving of everything that comes his
way. But I know this, I

729
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:12.159
know his focus is just on when
in the next game, and we we

730
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.920
ain't getting any more complicated than that. Yeah, I mean now, it's

731
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:21.519
just about showing what you can do. March. They call it madness for

732
00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:23.639
a reason. Yeah, you gotta
win as many games as you can to

733
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:29.519
say, two three, that's five. Can they've gone nine of ten?

734
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:35.119
Right? Can they go eleven in
a row? Because that's what it is.

735
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.880
Can they go eleven in a row? Two? Three and five?

736
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:44.000
Six? And they don't really have
to go eleven in a row, No,

737
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.320
they don't. They don't. They
can go you know, even nine

738
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.639
out of eleven and still but as
long as they go six in a row

739
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.159
at the end. Sure, Sure, there's a lot to like about this

740
00:48:55.280 --> 00:49:00.199
team. We talked with this with
the course earlier the week. Uh,

741
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.119
can you trust this team to do
that? Go on a six game heater?

742
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:06.920
Right? Yeah? And I and
I don't you know, we don't

743
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.519
know that yet. But certainly something
that I don't know. You'll you'll you

744
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:14.719
look at it and you go,
they can, but we don't know.

745
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:16.719
What. Did they go nine to
nineer begin the year? No? No,

746
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:21.239
no, it was nine and no, and they played very good teams.

747
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.559
So they're capable of capable of going
nine in zero against good, good

748
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:28.719
teams. Right. Right. Let's
say they start out the season uh,

749
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:36.719
Morgan State, Duke, Uh,
Southern University, Belmont U, t Arlington,

750
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:42.000
Michigan State to Colgate Wisconsin three and
then they lost it Purdue three.

751
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.840
So they had three of those games
with n C Double A type teams.

752
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:46.920
Yeah. Uh. And then they
played Alabama, so that's four. Uh.

753
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:50.760
They went eight no, not nine
and eight No. But in those

754
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.039
stretch they had three three games against
n C double A teams. Lost Purdue,

755
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:57.599
beat Alabama, and lost in Florida
Atlanta. Yeah, so there was

756
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:00.639
of those five n C Double A
teams they went three two, Yeah,

757
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:05.199
three and two on any given day. Yeah, you can, like they

758
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:07.280
say, if if those team plays
as well as it can and can win

759
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:12.280
the title, well conversely, if
they don't play as well as they can,

760
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:15.920
they can lose it. They can
lose it. Yeah, we were

761
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.400
so we're so bad about that.
But it's but it's the truth. I

762
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.599
mean, it's honestly the truth.
Yeah, all right, I got a

763
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:24.840
couple of minutes. I want to
play this. He was he was kind

764
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.679
of asked, you know, well, let's go let's go to this one,

765
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:30.920
talking about, you know, the
stretch that they're in. You know,

766
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:34.559
it came. It came after they
they had lost to Oregon State,

767
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:38.840
then they went and beat Oregon then
they've won nine of ten. Uh basically

768
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:43.000
asked, what did you say?
What? What? What happened there that

769
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.679
that all of a sudden, you
know, you went on you've gone on

770
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:55.719
this. He was almost described as
a heater. I'm playing there wasn't a

771
00:50:55.800 --> 00:51:00.880
nine. Oh I'm sorry. Uh
oh, I must have missed that one.

772
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:02.679
Okay, let's skip that one and
we'll come back to that. Uh,

773
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.159
let's play clip number. He was
funny with that too. Yeah.

774
00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:13.239
Basically, as you know, is
the conference championship matter to you guys?

775
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:16.280
I mean it's something we've always had
a you know, desire to win.

776
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.320
But you know that they're they're they're
steps. Now. You know, you're

777
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:25.199
wrapping up the regular season, so
you know that this is like a new

778
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:29.760
beginning for us. We're done playing
a McHale, We're wrapping up the regular

779
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:31.960
season, then the tournament, you
know, and then then the NCAA tournament.

780
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:37.039
So you know, you can not
win the PAC twelve regular season and

781
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:38.559
still played well in the NA tournament. But you know, we want to

782
00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:43.079
go step by step and keep building. So you know, our focus right

783
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.039
now is to try to come out
and play really well this weekend and put

784
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:50.480
ourselves in position to win the PAC
twelve. We know that's not going to

785
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:52.119
be easy. You know, we
got a team that's you know, deserving

786
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.679
and right on our heels, so
we we've got to come out and and

787
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.880
play well on the road, which
is never easy to do, right,

788
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.400
especially with this team. In the
end. Through the whole new press conference,

789
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:07.599
he's very low key, right,
you know what, guys, I

790
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:09.360
know I got to talk to you
about all this stuff. I really only

791
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:15.280
give one crap right now about UCLA. Yeah, and given my choice,

792
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.559
I would not be here. Rude
right now, you know, I don't

793
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:22.239
want to be here. I think
he was kind of happy that they're only

794
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:25.239
like a handful of guys there,
but we still asked all the questions.

795
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:29.159
Yeah, yeah, because Nick filled
it up. Next year they come back

796
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:30.000
and I don't even think we probably
meet with them before they go to the

797
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:32.880
tournament, who knows. And then
the tournament opens and that's when it gets

798
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:37.719
Harry because it gets what happens.
The locker room opens and it's not closed

799
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.599
like it is now, and we
get more access to the guys in the

800
00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:45.400
press conferences. They're longer, so
always interesting. All right, Uh boy,

801
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.599
we're up against it, so we're
gonna take our break here at the

802
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:51.079
top of the hour, and then
Kevin's coming back with breaking news. Let's

803
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:51.559
stick around.