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The guest tonight is a return guest,

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which I'm very happy to a back
and very excited. He was the author

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of Dancing with My Fate and we
had him on to talk about that book

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last time. This time he's got
a new book that's out titled American Values,

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so we'll be talking about that tonight. I'm excited. My guest is

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Sam. I'd let Sam welcome back. Pay Aaron, thanks again for having

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me back. I'm also really excited
to dig in and hear your thoughts and

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share some more on my own.
Hopefully some folks call in too. Yeah,

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yeah, that would be fun and
we definitely encourage it. So again

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the numbers three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six,

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call in, ask Sam a question, joined the conversation. Be happy

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to have you, but yeah,
it's it's great to hear you again,

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Sam, to be talking to you, and yeah, the book is awesome,

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I'll say, just out of the
gates. I got my copy and

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I read it, and it's one
of those books that it's like just incredibly

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easy to read. It's one of
those ones you just sit down and you

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just consume it. I could easily
sat down in one sitting and did it.

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I did it in two. But
it's very easy to read. It's

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quick concise, which I think is
also quite nice too. I like the

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fact that it's not too terribly long. I think that's actually strength that the

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book has. So yeah, overall, i'll just say that out of the

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gates, well done man. Thanks. Yeah. I mean I definitely always

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when I'm writing, this is a
little bit of writing nerdery, but you

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know, I try to channel my
inner hemming way, and you know,

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I don't want to waste people's time. I don't want to sound, you

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know, like I'm putting on errors
or being pretentious. I want to get

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to the point, get to the
meat, and hopefully I can connect,

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because that's what I'm trying to do
when I write, is connect with people.

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So any you know, privilties that
would distract from that, it's not

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really what I'm trying to do.
It's not easy to to write that way.

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And it took me about a year
to write this book. Pets one

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hundred pages took me a year.
But you know, I think I appreciate

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you saying that because I'd like to
believe that I achieved that. Oh yeah,

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yeah, definitely. Man. It's
really engaging. Yeah, engaging and

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easy to read without a doubt.
And it's an interesting format too. I

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mean, how would you describe this
book? What's what's the pitch to the

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reader on this book? What is
this book? What's the format? Just

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like give us like a brief sort
of like primer of what American values is.

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Sure? So the tagline I like
to have a little tagline and on

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the back, you know, the
tagline says, never stop trying to find

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out who others really are. Never
stop trying to show others who you really

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are. That's the mysterious. You
know. Hopefully that starts to pick people's

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curiosity and then I people to join
me on a journey across the United States

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from east to west. And maybe
I think this particular audience of your show

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will pick up on a lot of
things that maybe some other folks won't.

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But you know, I travel from
east to west on a search for what's

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really valuable. A lot of people
have gone on a journey west to find

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gold, and there's a lot of
symbolic value in that, and I'm doing

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the same thing. I'm looking for
symbolic gold. Okay, Now, reading

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this was interesting because there's like so
many stories and different places that you go.

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You go to specific places, like
each chapter is like a new destination

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that you're stopping at on the road
trip, so to speak. I was

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just wondering how many of these little
stories are things that actually happened to you.

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And then also, out of all
these places in the book, how

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many of you actually been to Have
you been to all these places in real

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life? Wouldn't you like to know? No, that's that's that's part of

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the mystery. And I think,
you know, I'll say that I won't

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tell you which ones, but there
are certainly a lot of things that I

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have done and that are real in
the book. And then there's some things

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that I kind of recreated virtually using
Google Maps and very you know, I've

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dug I dug into the space,
you know, so I know about it,

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but I haven't actually physically been there. But through technology you can basically

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be virtually there. To quote some
old stuff that you you had worked on

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it and it disn't pass, but
you know, you're able to facilitate a

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kind of a virtual scoping out of
a place. So it was a little

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bit of both. I did that
on purpose, because it's kind of intentional

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blurring of the lines between you know, metaphor and reality, which is a

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very American thing to do. Yeah, it's interesting. As I was reading

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it, I felt like you mentioned
a lot of places that I myself have

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been to and and and different things
you bring up are things that are like

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things that I remember from my past, Like all sorts of little details will

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pop up, places like the Stratosphere, a hotel I went to that when

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when in two thousand and eight,
when I first came out to California,

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that was one of the places we
stopped on the way, and that happened

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to be the hotel that my wife
and I stayed at at the time,

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So it made it. It brought
me back to that. And it's interesting

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that writing strike you because I'll give
it I'll give it away that I have

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not been to the Stratosphere. Yeah, yeah, I kind of that of

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all the places. I figured,
like, okay, he's probably making that

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up. But I found it interesting
and it made me specifically remember being up

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in the top of that building and
looking down. It was it was nighttime

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and looking down through the windows and
you could see Vegas and just that and

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just that trip. Generally speaking,
that was my first encounter with the whole

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city because I've never been out there
before. So again, it's kind of

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it's an interesting memory for me.
It kind of jives with what's going on

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the book. I know that you're
at the bar in this book. I

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didn't go to a bar up there, but I did just kind of go

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and look out the windows and it
was cool. So yeah, that was

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one of many bars. But what
was Adam sorry, is that I'm not

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sure if there's really a bar.
That was an oversight, I guess,

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right, yeah, I can't.
I can't remember if there's one up there,

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and I remember the windows. I
don't know if there's a bar at

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the top. Certainly a bar at
the bottom, because the casinos at the

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bottom at the base there, and
you better believe there's bars down there.

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But yeah, that was that was
cool, and I mean, there's so

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many things that popped up. Another
thing that popped up for me that just

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kind of brought me back to another
time in my life, was you're mentioning

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Kirk Schillings. Because being from Pennsylvania, the Phillies were on the TV and

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we used to watch Phillies games a
lot. Schilling was one of the star

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pitchers there for a while back at
the time that I was watching, so

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you know, I know him pretty
good. And yeah, that story was

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real, that that was a real
thing, and I you know, I

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did play a little league and I
do have a real memory of having big

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league chew and it was Kirk Chilling
and I thought he was cool because I

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was watching. I think it was
either Phillies or Red Sox. I don't

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remember when he, you know,
where he was in that moment, but

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you know, I was young,
and I think he was in the Phillies.

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He must have been, because Red
Sox was later. Yeah, okay,

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and he had the pinch as he
always you know, and I remember

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like mimicking that and you know,
being like, okay, I'm cool now

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because I'm like a pro baseball player. Yes, so the marketing of the

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bubblegum, that's what it was.
Is like, you can be like a

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baseball player, but you're not chewing
tobacco. You're doing something a kid's able

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to do. So there, yeah, yeah, And I mean we can

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we can back up a little bit
and talk about that story. But it's

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it's just really good to hear you
being able to relate so well to these

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stories. But you know, just
in general, my intention here is to

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be relatable because you know, this
is kind of a conspiracy yarn right in

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a way. But I found that, you know, every book I've read

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that has been kind of the truth
about the conspiracy, and you've come into

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it on this a lot at length
on your show, and it's it's scary,

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and you know, I I'm it
is scary, for sure. You

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know, the world can be scary, and I think there's there's enough of

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that. But what they're what needs
to be here, in my opinion,

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you know, is people being able
to relate to others, and not in

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a superficial way, but in a
very real way. And so for me,

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that story about Kurt Schelling and you
know, Marketers peddling, you know,

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activities for children that emulate cancer causing. You know, like, this

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is just a super relatable thing,
Like everybody can get that on some level,

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you know, no matter what your
upper room was. Yeah, and

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it's not necessarily even you're you're not
delving into conspiracy land by doing that.

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You're just like taking a casual observation
of the world, which when done so

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it's it's it's quite like, I
mean, it's it's it's crazy to think

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that something marketed to kids could have
such a dark, subversive side to it.

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But when you look at it on
his face, of course that's what

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it is. But we just kind
of take that as just a matter of

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course in our day and time,
and yeah, we don't think of it

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as like anything nefarious, even though
when on its face it is. And

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then that kind of that point leads
you back to the conspiracy theory sort of

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realm, and you're saying like,
well, I think what you're saying is

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like, look, these just like
things that we take for granted and don't

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even think twice about. Really sometimes
we'll stop and we'll talk for a minute.

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But when you look at it,
it's almost like a gateway to like,

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well, if this is going on, it stands to reason that you

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can kind of take that analogy further
and say, well, what else is

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happening? And it's almost as are
you making an argument for taking conversations further

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to what would be labeled by a
lot of people conspiracy theory and trying to

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destigmatize. You're just trying to relate, like, what's what's going on here?

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Yeah, So it's interesting that you
asked me that. So you know,

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I know you you and I have
a little bit more of the backstory

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than than your listeners, because you
know, I shared some drafts with you

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and such, so that the early
drafts of this book are were very different

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from the end, and they were
full of examples, and it was like,

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and look at this, and this, these politicians did this, and

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you know, there was this historical
event and this. If you look at

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this, then that means that they
must have been lying. So maybe they

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were lying about this, and you
know, and and I just took all

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of that out. I tried to
put myself in the shoes of someone who

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doesn't want to believe that, because
I think there's two types of ways to

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go about surviving this mess we're in. And the first is to think,

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like I want to believe that there's
a conspiracy, because then I know the

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truth with a capital T, and
that's comforting, you know, at least

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you know your enemy, right.
And then there's the other way to go

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about it, which is this can't
be true. I mean, I my

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neighbors, and you know, there
are people around me, and they're good

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people. How could this be true? You know? So, and both

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are valid, I mean, and
I think that that there's there is truth

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to both of those perspectives, and
airing on one side or the other in

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an extreme way is as a folly, so you know. But on the

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other hand, you know, the
example I gave of marketers peddling cancer causing

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substance as kids. You know,
it's indisputable, right. So the fact

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is there are very real dangers and
they're hard to swallow. And that's really

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where I was trying to come about
this book, is that this is something

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that we can relate to each other, you know, while at the same

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time you know acknowledging that, well, we can't really relate to them,

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right, the marketers like they're the
other big other in the room, in

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the unknown, and yet a lot
of people are in marketing, right,

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so and I'm not trying dis varage. I mean, there's a Bill Hicks

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thing on marketing, like I highly
recommend people look that up. But there's

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you know that that notwithstanding, you
know, I think that's the elephant in

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the room, right. It's it's
not so much that I'm trying to uncover

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anything in in the first chapter at
least or in the whole book really,

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except for one thing, which is
that you know, it's it's the elephant

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in the room, right. That's
that's part of what I think I'm trying

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sight. What it is I think
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it in different ways, and I
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where I win people over and win
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alienate people. So that's where I
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particular conspiracy or something else. So
that's that's wise. I appreciate the push

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and the poll and it's it's happening
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well, yeah, you start going
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know. There's definitely that happening as
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really enjoy that. And I'm gonna
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he's posting videos and stuff and he's
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of realm. Have you seen this? I had? I had no idea.

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synchronicities happening when I read this book, and that was one of them that

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popped up to me, and I
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like going into the right wing alternative
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to say it was like a decade
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off. Their buddy buddy on the
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fascinating to see like all those guys
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they kind of went they went into
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that's something. And you know,
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of gone into those areas a little
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in the water, and back in
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know, it's just again. I
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have at least dipped their toe into
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of my point of this first chapter
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you know, to get it right, and that's fair because there's consequences and

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agency in a lot of ways because
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you know, we're blind blindly grasping
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the time, and so you know, I tried to kind of capture that

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feeling of powerlessness, and that's more, you know, I think we're kind

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of moving on now into the chapter
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of the surge and you know,
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and all of this, and you
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and democracy is coming and this is
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I was there and it's like just
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the houses and you know, people
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armed mercenaries everywhere from all over the
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it seemed to be on the on
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really weird would be watching CNN in
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from patrol and you're like, oh, wow, okay, I guess the

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war is going well. So but
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was I think I can have empathy
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are trying to figure it out,
and yeah, they're probably getting it wrong.

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you have truth with a capital T, and you know, comfort is necessary

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to exist and survive, and if
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you know, being given to somebody
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then they're being manipulated, and you
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we're all full grown adults, but there's

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something to be said about that.
Ultimately, people are being victimized because information

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is being withheld, like people,
you know, Alex Jones is an obvious

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example or someone now, and you
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talk about specific people too much because
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you know, but you know,
there's plenty of examples of people that are

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like you know, it has been
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they were, sure right, sure, and so with that so rampant,

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make sense of things when somebody is
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you came to realize like, well, they were just saying that, and

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you don't even have all the answers
for that, like, well, we

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know we were just saying that,
but we still don't even know all the

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reasons. We just know that basically
they're b essing. We can tell that

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much, but beyond that, you
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you and you can tell that they're
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there are some people that are really good

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actors. Yeah, sure, well
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by the specifically you and your fellow
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wars in the Middle East. I
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of dichotomy or saying earlier of well
how do you interpret reality to just kind

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of say what you kind of like
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I'm not I'm not looking at all
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assume that it's such a dark world
because it's comforting and you kind of just

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willfully don't or do you kind of
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looking for the truth. And generally
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because of their service, the things
they saw not jiving with you know,

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the official propaganda lines that caused them
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here? And and honestly, fact
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know what the extreme right wing factions
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start Roads and his buddies of the
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He's like, oh, hey,
yeah, you saw horrible things over

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there here. Let me explain to
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a lot of them are now being
victimized by guys like him, you know,

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yeah, absolutely, and I can
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I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, you know.

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and myself like, oh God,
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know, And it's hard not to
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the things that I draw on though, when I have a desire to connect

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to others because you know, I
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so many times in my life that
you know, come at me, tell

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me your story. You know,
I will not judge you, my friend,

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because it's likely that I've been there. And if I haven't been there,

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you know, I'm I've been to
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places that I that I certainly can
relate, you know, even if I

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can't directly relate, I can certainly
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a blessing for me, I feel. And it took me a long time

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not to feel shame about making mistakes, you know, like and like you

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said, yeah, there is those
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the sand or you try and get
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I think I think you were I
think you're kind of pointing to the

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fact earlier that this is kind of
like the obvious outcome of this world that

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we've been given is and especially with
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with, is it's all about the
individual. Right, So you are supposedly

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empowered to go out there and make
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own life for yourself, and that
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because you're an American and you are
going to be able to you can think

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and be as free as you want
in your thoughts. And we've done,

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we've been given that to such a
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and nobody can and nobody can find
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not happening, and even together,
I don't think that's happening either, But

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just trying, like the enormity of
what we're faced with and the thought of

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like the individual person going out there
and facing that is just like what do

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you expect is going to happen?
You know that this happens to every This

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is our kind of collective experience.
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you know, in a nutshell,
it's you know, we're being lied to,

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manipulated, you know, undue influence, nudged, you know, the

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lots of ways that people like to
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interests that have the latest technology at
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chance, you know. So,
and so you know, the choice what

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we do have is the choice the
agency to to to one acknowledge right,

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like, this is the case.
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nutshell, what's my goal at least
for the first part of this book,

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that's that's my goal is is let's
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making mistakes and looking foolish. And
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done that a lot, and I
believe that if I cared, then I

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would, you know, make myself
look foolish. So a good way to

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not look foolish just to not care. And that's a mistake too, because

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if someone's punching your face, you
in the face, and you're like,

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I don't care, like you're still
a fool because you're just getting punched in

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the face, you know, So
you know, you have to care because

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it's affecting you, it's affecting us
all. You don't have to, but

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you know, not caring is kind
of is a is a not a it's

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it's not the it's not the right
way to go. It's not a good

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strategy. So we have to care, you know. And I think it's

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a good thing to care. I
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know, well, all right,
so what do we do? And that's

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the big question. And so the
first step, right, And I mean

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in my book, I you know, I get into you know, my

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my philosophy too there. But like
the first step is admitted, admit,

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admit the admit what the problem is. And the problem is we don't stand

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a chance against this massive, you
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no, we have free will,
but we don't really have free will

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in the way that the American dream
presents itself to us, because we are

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susceptible to these forces around us that
that govern our in some cases, you

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know, our very identities and how
we see ourselves, how we believe our

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stories are. So it's powerful.
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it's very liberating, right, and
I I try to manifest that liberation in

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the chapter on the desert. And
you know, when when I'm out in

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the desert, I feel again,
I wanted to make this about how I

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feel, not about because this is
this is they can't touch you here,

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right, Like this is part of
what I'm trying to say at the end,

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is they can't they can't touch you
inside in your heart because that's inside

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of you. We all own that
right, and that's where free will is.

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But it's from it's it's trickier than
just, you know, belief,

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because belief, I mean they can, they can. Those things are more

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malleable. But what isn't malleable is
our And it's not just like a purely

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emotional thing either, But it's like
this gut instinct you should always listen,

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man. And I'm trying to I'm
trying to explain it. I'm kind of

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having a little bit of difficulty.
It's well, it's these are all difficult

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things to articulate. And I think
that's where the book actually does well,

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is that it doesn't it's not always
trying to articulate the details. It's taking

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you on this journey because the book
is set up as a journey, as

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you're saying, from east to west. So that's what's happening. You're the

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list or the reader is along for
that ride and following you. And I

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think it's an interesting format because if
you're thinking about like a road trip or

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trip across the United States, that
would afford you this sort of stream of

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consciousness it's it's going to be the
natural outcome of doing that, is,

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especially if you're by yourself and taking
this trip, You're gonna have a lot

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of things going through your head and
you might find that, you know,

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you're you're coming across some interesting sites
along the way, and maybe you're maybe

408
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:40.960
you're even having epiphanies just based on
taking this trip, right, I mean

409
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.279
that was Yeah. So it's like, I'm I'm stopping at the diner,

410
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:51.200
right, and how many scenes in
American movies you pull up to the diner,

411
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:54.519
right, and then there's the strange
the waitress that's like, you know,

412
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:58.799
says something and you're like, huh, you know, and that's the

413
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:04.440
introduction to David Lynch movie. Right. But then but then you start thinking

414
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.159
about David Lynch, you know,
and you're like interesting, you know.

415
00:34:07.239 --> 00:34:12.079
But but that's where I mean,
and David Lynch actually plays with this very

416
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:16.039
thing a lot, you know,
the merging of metaphor and reality. Right.

417
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:23.960
Yeah, So I think it's just
it's no, I'm sorry, can

418
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:30.199
continue, I'll return it later,
keep going, I'm sorry. No,

419
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:35.960
Yeah, I mean I was just
gonna say, like I wanted it to

420
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:39.679
be experiential where you're in the diner, you're this is America, right,

421
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:43.880
not the abstractions, it's the people, it's the places. Right. So

422
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:49.079
you're driving through it, you have
an interaction, you feel something, and

423
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:54.199
then you understand how that feels,
and that's what's real. So that's the

424
00:34:54.800 --> 00:35:00.280
that's my baseline for what is the
real America? What are who are we?

425
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:06.039
What are we doing? You know, that feeling of and it's not

426
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:13.480
just a feeling, it's it's understanding
that feeling is what's real. So anyway,

427
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:16.639
go ahead, I want to hear
now. I mean, I I

428
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:23.920
started thinking about Lynch actually, and
and recently I was thinking about David Lynch,

429
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.519
you know, while I had time
to think to myself and and and

430
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:31.840
realizing that I think I like the
films of David Lynch. I know that's

431
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:36.519
a hot bun thing. Whether you
like it you hate it. I think

432
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:40.360
that. I mean, there,
he's an incredible filmmaker. Yeah. I

433
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:45.639
love the films, I really do. And and I was just thinking about

434
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:50.440
it. I think one of the
things I really enjoy about them is the

435
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:55.679
dialogue in them is really ridiculous.
It seems ridiculous and it's hilarious. And

436
00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:00.119
the things he has the characters say
just seems so like when you're watching the

437
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:04.719
film, you go, this,
this is not realistic. This is like

438
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.159
some sort of weird, like cartoony
David Lynch dream. But then I was

439
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:13.840
thinking about it and in my head
a lot of times, I'll I will

440
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:19.320
remember specific quotes from people that I've
seen in my life, and I revisit

441
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.079
these quotes over and over and I'll
actually say the things that they said because

442
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.639
it was just so hilarious and bizarre, and I was like, you know

443
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.920
what, like what that person,
this thing that this memory that I can't

444
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.760
shake, or just somebody's saying something
ridiculous is exactly like one of those lines

445
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:39.599
from a David Lynch film. So
that's not necessarily like unrealistic. That's sort

446
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:44.559
of style a dialogue, if anything. Like I wish that there was more

447
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:49.000
of that, you know, in
regular conversation, but where there is,

448
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.639
it's like so interesting that it makes
you remember it, and I don't know,

449
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:58.800
I'm just thinking about that right.
Well, I would say that that's

450
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:06.960
valuable. It's very valuable because that's
you're connecting with somebody. They're they're putting

451
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:12.360
themselves out there as they are you
know, or maybe not, maybe maybe

452
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.679
maybe inadvertently, maybe they're trying to
be someone they're not. But but somehow

453
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:23.599
they expose something real and you remember
that. And that's valuable because it's one,

454
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:28.320
I mean, I think those kind
of moments are very beautiful and meaningful.

455
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:35.239
And two, it's like a mirror, right like you look at it

456
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:39.400
and you see a part of yourself
that you couldn't see before. Potentially yes,

457
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:45.320
yeah, and and and it's it's
it's you're doing that in such a

458
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:50.039
bizarre, abstract way. The thing
being said in these instances, these quotes

459
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.199
out of my head, aren't they
seem like utter nonsense. They seem like

460
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:57.000
they make no sense if you were
to listen to it. But then somehow,

461
00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:59.760
and like a lot of times,
they'll have like a synchronistic quality,

462
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:04.679
the sorts of things like I've heard
people say things that I guarantee you they

463
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:08.719
had no idea what they were saying, but like you could you could interpret

464
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:15.480
it from like an esoteric standpoint where
like like deep occult sort of meaning is

465
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:22.360
being conveyed. And yet I'm guarantee
you the person saying them these things was

466
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.400
not thinking of it that way.
You know, I mean, but but

467
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:29.840
the thing that they said is like
really crazy and profound in a sense,

468
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:36.760
and there is this like synchronicity that's
kind of bouncing around and and that you

469
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:39.800
play with that concept of like at
that one scene in the bar, there's

470
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.599
like three things on the TV and
they're all kind of like saying the same

471
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.960
thing at the same time. That's
I thought that was pretty cool. That's

472
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:52.639
that's kind of like you wrote into
the book sort of similar sort of concepts

473
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.280
like oh, look at I'm looking
around and things are lining up in a

474
00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:59.599
bizarre sort of way. I don't
know what's going on here. And that

475
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:04.719
really happened because there was at the
gym I used to go to, they

476
00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:09.000
would have Fox News, CNN,
and MSNBC on three big screens, like

477
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:14.719
right in front of the treadmills,
and it was fascinating because it would literally

478
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:20.079
be like the same headlines at the
same time. I mean, I mean

479
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.679
to the point where you could tell
that they were talking to each other about

480
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:28.800
the programming, like it would be
the same exact topic, but one would

481
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.679
be like, you know, extremely
abrasive in one way, the other would

482
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:37.000
be abrasive in the other. So
it's just fascinating, you know, to

483
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:42.800
watch, Like, I highly recommend
people try that because I'm telling you it's

484
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:51.360
like you will quickly see that they
collude in the storytelling. You just watch

485
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:55.079
it for like twenty minutes. Yeah, there's clearly a list of like approved

486
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:59.679
stories. Right, this is what
we're all going to talk about today.

487
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.119
And now you go ahead and you
do your particular interpretation, you put your

488
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:08.079
branding onto it, and that's basically
what it is, right, and it

489
00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:14.599
lines up perfectly with that, uh
that that that dichotomy that we just talked

490
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:19.159
about earlier where it's like caring and
not caring because like Fox, it'll be

491
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:23.039
like those liberals, isn't this a
joke? You know? And then and

492
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:28.719
then the MSNBC will be like,
you know, we care so much,

493
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:32.119
but we're ignoring all of this other
stuff, you know, and it's like,

494
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.239
you know, it's that exact dichotomy
of this, you know, you

495
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:40.719
put your head in the sand or
you think you have the truth with the

496
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:45.840
capital T and they trade off with
each other, so it's not like one

497
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:51.800
side is like one thing and the
other is is the opposite. Like beltic

498
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:53.760
turns. One person will say,
oh, this is the truth with the

499
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:59.440
capital T. And then the other
side will be like, oh this those

500
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:04.199
rask was like you know, and
then they'll switch you know. So it's

501
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:10.079
it's very interesting, and it's like
a dance, an orchestrated dance on us,

502
00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:17.199
you know, playing out in our
own minds, you know. So

503
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.519
and and I will say this,
I mean, I will say that I've

504
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:29.920
done a lot of rabbit holing and
meta research. I mean, I'm I

505
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:36.320
I think that, I mean,
I don't, I don't. My personal

506
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:43.599
takeaway is that you know a lot
of people are you know, same same

507
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:45.880
as what you've said, where like
there's a lot of Charlottean's man, and

508
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.639
I mean you'd be surprised, you
know how how many. And again,

509
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.159
like I won't name names, but
like you you've had the courage to kind

510
00:41:54.159 --> 00:42:00.000
of call out some people and I
really appreciate that. And I feel similar

511
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:01.960
early there are people that I'm like, oh, this guy is like totally

512
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:07.840
legit and coming from the heart,
and then they're not. You know,

513
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.880
there's someone backing them, or there's
some agenda. And you know, people

514
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:15.840
have agendas and that's fine, but
there's some it's a deceptive agenda where they're

515
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:22.280
not. They're presenting themselves as someone
that they're not. Yes, and that's

516
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:27.679
hurtful, you know, and that's
not you know, that's not okay.

517
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.480
You're trying to victimize me when you
do that. And that's part of the

518
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:37.079
book too, is like, look
like, I don't don't expect that I'm

519
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:42.559
going to take this sitting down man, like you're trying to victimize me.

520
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:47.599
Okay, will not stay it,
man, Yeah, the dude does not

521
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:59.840
apply. Oh man, there's a
California quote there for you from a fiction,

522
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:05.639
no less, but it's a pretty
California none the less. Actually,

523
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.400
I had a question. I wanted
to ask you this use this term the

524
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:14.360
community, and I found that interesting
because I don't recall hearing that term being

525
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:19.400
used. Just explain what that term
is, where you got it from.

526
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.079
Is it a term that's that's that's
in use. I just never heard of,

527
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:27.599
Like, oh, what is the
community? Yeah? So, I

528
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:30.559
mean I kind of took a little
bit of artistic liberty. But the the

529
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:36.360
ic right when the intelligence community right? And so I'm playing on this idea

530
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:40.559
that the intelligence community calls itself a
community, and you know what they mean

531
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:47.559
is the agencies that make up the
intelligence apparatus of you know, the United

532
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:53.719
States and five Eyes, and you
know, it's an international intelligence community and

533
00:43:54.000 --> 00:44:00.559
it's called the community because it's not
one governance. You know, there's multiple

534
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:06.760
countries, multiple organizations, and so
you know, I you know, I

535
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.719
basically started calling it the community just
as kind of a tongue in cheek where

536
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:16.960
I'm like calling out the fact that
it's literally called the intelligence community. And

537
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:22.760
so I'm just taking off that first
bit and kind of expanding it a little

538
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:30.320
bit to include just general you know, military contractors and that group of people

539
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:36.599
that you know kind of everybody knows
is there and you know, and and

540
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:42.639
again like I don't I hope my
intention is not to denigrate people involved in

541
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.880
that, and I think that's touchy
too, But I mean I'm not one

542
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:51.320
of those people that is like because
that's because that would be me with the

543
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.119
truth, with the capital T,
saying that I know, you know all

544
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:57.480
of this, and you know,
there are people that that work really hard

545
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.880
to try and keep people safe,
and you know, I appreciate that,

546
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:07.280
you know, and I'm not gonna
take that away from anybody. Sure,

547
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:12.079
So yeah, I mean I want
to make that part well well understood,

548
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:16.760
you know. At the same time, Yeah, I mean there's as as

549
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:20.320
you know, I do talk about
a little bit in the book, like

550
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:28.519
there's a whole lot that is still
not reconcilable about things that have happened.

551
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:31.079
And you know, I'm not gonna
get into it because there are many other

552
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:37.960
books about that, just one.
I really like Jefferson Morley's book on James

553
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:43.639
Jesus Singleton. I've mentioned that one
before, and he's been a guest on

554
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:47.679
Chuck's show, and you know,
I'd say it takes a lifetime to understand

555
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.039
the nuances there. You could honestly
just watch the movie Three Days of the

556
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:59.360
Condor and you'll really get all you
need to know. I don't know if

557
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:02.960
you've seen that movie, but I
haven't known it. It's great. It's

558
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:07.760
such a great movie. And uh
yeah, I mean it's it's from the

559
00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:14.199
seventies and it came out during the
Church Committee and it's you know, it's

560
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:19.280
it's it's uh I guess, you
know, just just check it out,

561
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.280
you know, anyone who's interested.
But that was my kind of idea that

562
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.239
this is a community of people,
and it really is, and I mean

563
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:31.000
I I know that. I mean, it's it's so that I just wanted

564
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:37.280
to kind of have a shorthand way
to refer to this. If there's anyone

565
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:43.800
that's in the know, it's that
right, Well they should be by definition,

566
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.119
right, We all kind of hope
they are, because if they're not,

567
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:50.519
then where then no one is and
we're steering off a cliff right,

568
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.639
Yes, yes, yeah, we're
in trouble if yeah, that's the yea,

569
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:02.880
yeah, it's yes. Just the
use of the term community is as

570
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:08.760
you're saying, it's definitely used.
I've I've seen intelligence community floated a lot

571
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:14.760
and buy those who are within it. If you go out there, there's

572
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:20.280
podcasts with people from that community that
label themselves as such, and those are

573
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:25.280
fascinating to give them a lesson.
I think it's always very valuable to go

574
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:29.639
direct to the source when you're looking
up something like okay, if you have

575
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:34.000
an interest in intelligence, when you
go find a podcast where people going,

576
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.719
oh, hi, we're we're all
here to talk about such and such a

577
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:38.639
topic, and we're all from the
intelligence community. Here's so and so,

578
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.400
here's so and so, and here's
me. I've been in it for forty

579
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.360
years now and give that a lesson. See take what you will from that.

580
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.480
If you're interested in such societies,
go find one of their podcasts,

581
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.599
because they're out there too. There's
all sort of interesting stuff. Yeah,

582
00:47:53.599 --> 00:48:00.800
no, I agree, Yeah,
I guess I would say I've been I've

583
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:07.599
been misled from from that angle as
well. I think it's a good place

584
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:12.079
to go. But ultimately, you
know, don't don't take anything as gospel,

585
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.760
would be my advice. Well,
yeah, sure, sure, that's

586
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:17.320
well, I mean, and that
the trick with all this is, like

587
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:22.840
you you know that when they're saying
something publicly, first of all, there's

588
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:25.960
a bunch of stuff that's classified that
they can't even put on the table at

589
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.360
all, so their hands are tied. When they're discussing a lot of stuff,

590
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.639
you're not going to get the full
picture. So that's just on the

591
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:38.119
face of it. And then you
got to go, well, might they

592
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:47.599
be placing misinformation into public uh pronouncements
to serve the ends of their operation?

593
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:53.800
Is this in operation? And asking
those questions is just being savvy, right,

594
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.760
And we don't have to have hard
and fast answers toying these questions,

595
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.599
but to ask them, I think
is a lost when you're dealing with this

596
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:07.400
stuff, and ye too, yeah, I mean, ultimately too. One

597
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.760
thing I've I've kind of come to
understand is it's the big other, it's

598
00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:14.800
the big Day. And that's why
I kind of tongue in cheek made it

599
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:20.800
as the community because this is a
nameless entity that is not attributable, right,

600
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:24.000
And wouldn't they want it that way? Yeah? Right, sure,

601
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:28.880
lack of attribution because it's like,
well, we didn't do this. This

602
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:34.880
was a private citizen, you know, And that's that's kind of where the

603
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:39.360
rabbit hole ends, right because this
is now someone's privacy, right and things

604
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:44.559
like that, So, you know, and I think that's and that's kind

605
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:50.559
of part of it. So for
me, that chapter was less about you

606
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:58.039
know, critique or criticizing anything as
much as it was just about driving people

607
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.280
to the conclusion or hope that people
will come to the conclusion on their own

608
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:08.119
that we're up against this. We're
in the fun house of mirrors. You

609
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:15.440
know, we're not going to be
able to navigate this by ourselves and come

610
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:19.159
out the other side, you know, with our head on straight. Because

611
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:23.119
you know, actually, one of
the things that I thought about a lot

612
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:29.920
after our last podcast. You uh
you you told me, you know,

613
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.239
how'd you come out the other side, you know, And I was like,

614
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:35.719
well, you know, work in
progress. But I think about that

615
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:38.519
sometimes I'm like, well, I
kind of I didn't really, I don't

616
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:46.639
think yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, but I think this book,

617
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:52.519
I think this book, you know, is about as close as I've I've

618
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.079
come yet. I think, you
know, there's there's more to come,

619
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:01.400
you know. I'm already thinking about
tweaks to the last chapter, you know,

620
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:07.239
or something, or maybe an afterword
or something. And I'm already working

621
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:09.280
on another book too. Oh that's
good. Yeah, that's that's why I

622
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:14.280
would honestly have suggested, like you
just maybe leave this as it is and

623
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.559
then keep moving and make another book
that's either similar to this or go wherever

624
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.159
you know you feel you have to
and pick it up from there. Yeah.

625
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:27.360
Because this, Yeah, no,
I really enjoy this as it is.

626
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:30.840
This book, I think it definitely
works. And yeah, it's just

627
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:37.480
again, just a very easy read
that elicits a lot. It really brings

628
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:42.280
a lot up. It makes you
ask a lot of questions, it makes

629
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:47.719
you reflect on a lot of different
things, and also it does the good

630
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:52.840
job of not giving you too many
hard and fast answers on things, which

631
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:59.920
I think is the point that you're
trying to make. Maybe. Yeah,

632
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:06.800
I mean, I think there's some
things that are true, and I drive

633
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:09.039
towards those at the end, and
I won't really give those things away,

634
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:16.800
but you know, because I want
people to buy the book, you know,

635
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:21.320
and and I want people to reach
out to me and talk to me

636
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.599
about this, so you know,
I encourage people. It's not about money

637
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:29.719
or and you know, for me, I mean, it's it's about connections.

638
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.440
So you know, I would really
like for people to pick up a

639
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:38.559
copy and you know, reach out
to me and and and start a conversation

640
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:45.719
if you have thoughts. Uh,
yeah, I mean I have. I

641
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:47.199
know, we're like almost at a
time here, I have, like,

642
00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:53.159
uh, something I wanted to kind
of yeah, you know, you had

643
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:58.280
any other questions, Let's let's dive
in. And before that, let's just

644
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.559
first of all, I'll say that
I put the link to this on my

645
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:07.039
bookshop dot org affiliate. Thank so, if you go to bookshop dot org,

646
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.800
you'll find it at the top of
my little Books by Guesses at the

647
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:13.400
top of that now, so you
can find it there. I was gonna

648
00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:15.079
ask, do you have your own
website for this book? I know there's

649
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:17.679
one for Dancing with My Fate?
Do you have a website for this book?

650
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:24.519
Or or not yet? Or no? No I don't And you know,

651
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:30.800
just laziness on my part. So
that's okay. Yeah, you know,

652
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:36.679
I mean, look, man,
like people, very few people,

653
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.480
you know, buy books like this, and it's a shame. And I

654
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:45.559
you know, I hope that more
people will buy this book. It takes

655
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:49.119
a lot of work. And I
know you can relate to this parent because

656
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.400
I know you put a lot of
work into the podcast. And I'll tell

657
00:53:52.480 --> 00:54:00.119
you, you know, your podcast
has really been meaningful to me, and

658
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:05.559
so I appreciate it. I think, you know, every ounce of sweat

659
00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:09.079
that you put into this thing has
been worth it if you ask me for

660
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:13.800
what it's worth. And uh.
And so that's why I'm doing this is

661
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:19.079
to you know, hopefully a couple
of people, and I know people have

662
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:22.400
reached out, like there have been
people that have told me that like you,

663
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:27.760
and and there's been some other people
too, that this that my book

664
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:34.079
has really meant a lot to them, and that that is worth that is

665
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:39.880
very valuable. To me, you
know, very valuable. So yeah,

666
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:44.679
pick up a copy and uh,
you know it's it's it's short, so

667
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:47.679
you know most of you'll lose is
you know, a couple hours, and

668
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.239
I know for some people that's a
lot. So if it's going to stress

669
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:55.599
you out, don't worry about it. You know, really, I don't.

670
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:59.119
I don't want you to be stressed. But yeah, I mean,

671
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:05.400
if you have the time inclination,
I'd love to to dive in. Cool.

672
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:07.400
Now, you said that you'd like
people to get a hold of you.

673
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:13.400
What's the best way that they can
contact you? So if people go

674
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:19.920
to the Dancing with My Fate website, there's a email address on that website,

675
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.079
go ahead and email me there.
That's that's the best way to get

676
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:27.800
a hold of me. Okay,
that's Dancing with my Fate dot com?

677
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.559
Is it? Yeah, Dancing with
my Faith dot com? Yeah, okay,

678
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:35.119
okay, so there's that website.
Yeah, I definitely I recommend the

679
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:40.760
book everybody. It's an enjoyable read, like thoroughly thoroughly enjoyable, and yeah,

680
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:45.360
there's a lot to take from it. So yeah, American Values by

681
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:49.239
Sam i'd let was there was there
something else? You want to mention here,

682
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:54.199
Sam before we shift gears so to
speak. Yeah, yeah, just

683
00:55:54.400 --> 00:56:05.280
one thing, you know, the
the point if I had to distill it

684
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:10.280
in those two sentences, you know, I think we want to just you

685
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:19.119
know, put this out there.
You know, we don't life. Life

686
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:27.199
is more beautiful and more meaningful when
we confront and explode our symbols that aren't

687
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:32.719
living our heads and they restrict us. And you know, we we don't

688
00:56:32.800 --> 00:56:40.400
have to have illusions like money,
sex objects, status, some kind of

689
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:46.880
identity that we believe is ours that
has been given to us. We don't

690
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:52.039
have to be illusions. We don't
have to be the identity. We don't

691
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:54.480
have to be a sex object,
we don't have to be a rich person.

692
00:56:55.360 --> 00:57:00.239
These things are illusions. And that's
what my trip has thought me.

693
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:04.760
And now you all know that it
wasn't a real trip, but maybe it

694
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:12.800
was, so don't stop believing nice. That's what I'll leave you with,

695
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:17.039
Okay. I always like leaving it
with the song lyric that's guild in my

696
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:21.719
book. And I have to ask
you, Sam, do you want to

697
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:23.239
stick around for the Uncle's show in
the next hour? Do you have to

698
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:30.039
get going? I am gonna drop
off. I do want you to tell

699
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:35.079
Uncle I said, Hi, I
gotta early wake up in the morning.

700
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:38.679
I hear you. So all right, well it was great. It was

701
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:43.800
I will tell Uncle high absolutely and
it was great to have you here.

702
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:46.079
And you're always welcome back, man, even if you just want to call

703
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:49.920
in, you're welcome. Do you
do that. But we'll have you back

704
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.039
as a guest again. Man,
it's always great to talk to you.

705
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:55.480
Thanks Aaron, Yeah, thank thanks
a lot for having me on. It's

706
00:57:55.480 --> 00:57:59.280
a lot of fun. And uh
yeah, I hope to do it again

707
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:05.199
sometime. And Chuck, I know
I'll be on Chuck's show I think sometime

708
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:08.639
soon, so hopefully listeners will be
able to catch that as well. So

709
00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:13.679
cool, all right, yeah,
yeah, take care of Sam. All

710
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:15.920
right, Yes, stay tuned to
the o'chelly Radio network. Sam will be

711
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:21.719
up on a Chucks show in the
near future. But the even nearer future

712
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:27.159
this becomes Uncle the podcast right now, so keep listening if you're listening on

713
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o'chelly dot com. This of course
was the Age of transitions. Uh,

714
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the Age of Transitions. Dot com
is the website. My name is Aaron

715
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Franz and as always I will leave
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called in the truth about the day
of a assassination? Right, well,

725
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what do you want to know?
Judie Baker's wild claim Oswald girl rounds New

726
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Ruby and Barry An threw weapons.
Really imagine I could claim I have four

727
01:00:00.320 --> 01:00:04.559
wheels. It doesn't make me a
wagon. But okay, Dogwald was on

728
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the guilty and I'm trying to prevent
the murder of John Kennedy. Come on,

729
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now, has it real effort on
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730
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731
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732
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Brown utilizes her own words and the
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733
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well a different perspective. Let's say
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734
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736
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dot com. Ony Morney Morning Morning, Morning, Morning Morning. This is

749
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to see podcast. Co Wait cowad
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750
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:09.400
hand your cell phone and hang me
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751
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Watch out. If you're sitting down
for this, or if you're standing

752
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up, you're better get ready for
this because it's gonna hit the air drums.

753
01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:31.000
Uncle the podcast too, Uncle the
broadcast. My name is Aaron.

754
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:34.559
I'm the nephew of low Here me
is a start of show. Uncle.

755
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:42.599
Hello, Len gent Winning three hundred
and old five. That's ways the message

756
01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:49.639
three hundred five. That's three hundred
five is uh uh. That's tonight.

757
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:53.920
That's where we're at. Everybody,
episode numbers three you five. Uncle the

758
01:03:54.000 --> 01:04:00.079
podcast live every Sunday night on our
Chilly dot com. We start at eleven

759
01:04:00.199 --> 01:04:05.000
pm Eastern. Let's get those calls
one in the chuck, get them.

760
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:09.960
That's whool him out, all right, So right now I know this Uncle

761
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:15.000
weird night. We've got one listener
in Australia and everybody else is in America

762
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:23.599
tonight. Every they had all last
week, so they don't want to listen

763
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:28.480
tonight. I guess we were.
We were all over the world. He

764
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:32.880
scared off the international listener international and
listeners exactly what he said. We did

765
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:35.400
a fine job of that. I
call. Yeah, I don't know who

766
01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:42.800
you had guess take my guess away? Well yeah, yeah, yeah.

767
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:47.719
In the previous hour, I had
a guest I know, took him,

768
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:54.239
took my guess away from the people. Other people the KKK took your guest

769
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:58.920
away. Yeah, that's wasn't it
wasn't me. Yeah, yeah, maybe

770
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:02.719
it was uncle screaming hanging people last
week. You know, we would have

771
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:08.760
been that or I don't know what
it was. There are a couple of

772
01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:13.000
things that might have scared a couple
of people off, but we don't worry

773
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.840
about that uncle. We just let
it all hang out. Have you listened

774
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:20.079
to my shows out? Check check? I put some more out for you.

775
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:26.199
Did listen? Oh what on Instagram
and stuff? Yeah? I haven't

776
01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:28.880
been over to Instagram this week at
all. I was trying to catch up

777
01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:32.519
to everything, and finally I'm almost
caught up. So well, look and

778
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:39.360
listen to that because I put one
on Today, two on Today, two

779
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:45.599
two on Today and Instagram. Uncle's
talking about his videos that we've been posting.

780
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:49.119
We were posting they've been going quite
well. Yeah, So I was

781
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:56.079
shocked at the one at the at
the soccer because I didn't really think it

782
01:05:56.159 --> 01:06:01.039
would go and boom loaded. You
was on that lots of views you listen

783
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:05.960
to. So I was shocked to
hear that because I was meant to say

784
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:11.159
something, but I didn't mean to
say it. Okay, I was recommending

785
01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:14.760
people go check out that trip out
to the oil you can Eat shrimp joint

786
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.239
because I wanted to want to see
that one. Well, that one I

787
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:23.400
should didn't that should they went over
it should have sat. That's the video

788
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:29.840
that I put the most work and
honestly, UH love unto. And it's

789
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:33.639
gotten far less views on the view
counter than these other short videos that we

790
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:42.800
just make win basically less, far
less. That's that's for you. That's

791
01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:47.800
very surplus. So more people more, more, more people are watching shrimp,

792
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:51.679
people go crazy for shrimp. Would
have thought it was this place.

793
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:56.679
Well, people went more for your
tuna fish than they went for the big

794
01:06:56.800 --> 01:06:59.760
Jay Sanders and that wait, does
that his name? Jay Sanders. Ye,

795
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:04.159
Carold Sanders Gerald Sanders, right,
they went they went crazy for your

796
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:10.119
tuna fish and God help us all
sour crowd and uh, you know,

797
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:15.760
I just got to get into it, Chuck. I I like sour crowd

798
01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:23.159
two on a hot dog on a
sausage, you know, but fish,

799
01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:29.440
Yeah, I ain't had one come
on. And picking up from that,

800
01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:33.559
I put video. One of the
videos we shot and put it today was

801
01:07:33.719 --> 01:07:39.880
uncle making a cheese thing. The
title of video is called Cheese the Cheese

802
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:45.880
and he's just making a cheese lunch
in the microwave and I so we posted

803
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:49.559
it to Instagram. I reposted it
to YouTube. It's already nearly at two

804
01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:55.000
thousand views on YouTube, which is
good. People. I'm telling you that.

805
01:07:56.159 --> 01:08:01.559
I'm telling you something. They go
crazy on just my means like me

806
01:08:03.079 --> 01:08:12.199
people on Instaguium and then where he
poses, it's just absolutely go dang crazy.

807
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:15.280
It's not unlike the Food Network,
Uncle, Yeah no, we're basically

808
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.760
doing the same thing. Yeah,
well, well the NetWorld we pull the

809
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:24.600
network, then net without of the
doll waters sorry mine with mine because see

810
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:30.399
how many poor people done. I'm
listening. Move over. Gordon Ramsey's talking

811
01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:33.479
that's right, all of you,
all your celebrity chefs. You don't stand

812
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:40.239
a chance because we've got a whole
new take on how to make a meal,

813
01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:44.760
and people are really listening to it. They sure are. Yeah,

814
01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:48.720
it's exciting, So it's yeah,
it's interesting. It's somewhat discouraging to see

815
01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:55.159
the videos you wish would do good
not However, I will say I will

816
01:08:55.239 --> 01:09:00.720
say this because we're making this content
and we're experimenting. I keep kind of

817
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:02.800
dancing around this every time we talk
about this, but we're kind of like

818
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:08.439
playing around uncle. We're putting stuff
out there, and foods, well,

819
01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:10.920
yeah, I guess you are with
your food. You're kind of playing with

820
01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:15.920
your food, aren't you. Well, some of them sometimes someone away out

821
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:19.439
of making the mixture of how to
make it. Yeah, that's how I'm

822
01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:21.920
doing it. How are the gamers
streams doing? Though? When you guys

823
01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:27.640
play games those, uh, that
is less because I've been asking him.

824
01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:32.039
I wanted to play a couple of
them, but we just haven't. They're

825
01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:36.800
not himself to move along here,
Well, exactly, Chuck, You're you're

826
01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:42.800
getting at this and that the streams
we did to those didn't got limited engagement

827
01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.720
I really enjoyed them, and people
showed up live that regular listeners and that

828
01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:55.800
was a lot of fun, like
getting my jet. But my general take

829
01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:58.479
on this is like, I really
like a bunch of the stuff that we

830
01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:02.239
have already done. The gaming streams
good, the videos like the Gerald Sanders

831
01:10:02.399 --> 01:10:08.479
videos very good. And again you
could lump the merchandise into this. I

832
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:14.079
think it's good. But what I
want to do is keep making more of

833
01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:19.560
the things that appear to be getting
the attention and have ability to be like

834
01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:25.199
those breakthrough moments. And I'm I'm
thinking which in a way, yeah,

835
01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:29.840
it's these short videos, which is
videos of my food. That's what's doing

836
01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:32.119
it. Look, it's kind of
annoying because we're not putting much work into

837
01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:35.079
it, but it's also kind of
good because we can make them so easy

838
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:38.880
and keep making them. Maybe one
of them will catch fires so much that

839
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:42.079
it will become something. It's like
your five minute cooking show is the thing

840
01:10:42.119 --> 01:10:45.960
that's working. I don't think.
I don't understand. Isn't it weird?

841
01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:50.239
It's it doesn't really easy to say. I mean, even though you don't

842
01:10:50.279 --> 01:11:01.520
like, I understanding, but but
people go absolute and I mean, this

843
01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:05.479
is crazy, and I'll say Hello
Creative Accidents. He's in the Twitch chat

844
01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:09.600
room. He's also at the Ocelli
dot com chat room. Hello Creative Accidents

845
01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:14.039
and everybody else listening, glad to
have you here. And it's we've done

846
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:17.079
a great job with everything we've done
thus far, and we have a dedicated

847
01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:23.319
audience. The audience at Chelly dot
com is the best. But I also

848
01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:28.600
believe that there's a way to expand
this and I'm trying. I'm really trying

849
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:34.640
to put effort. And the reassuring
thing here is that perhaps with the least

850
01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:40.840
effort you can get the most returns. And that's the positive I'm taking from

851
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:44.439
these bizarre videos we've been posting.
It hasn't exactly happened yet. We've been

852
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:47.399
getting a lot of views for what
that's worth, but it's it's fun and

853
01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:53.399
it could work, and I think
it's good material. So well what you're

854
01:11:53.560 --> 01:12:00.199
saying. Then, with that in
mind, I'm going to find and I'd

855
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:02.600
like to return to the gaming streams. Perhaps we'll build up an audience by

856
01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:06.960
getting attention somehow, and then we
can turn to the things we really like

857
01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:10.840
doing and the people will be there. I don't know, and this might

858
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:15.520
be all a pipe dream as well. I'm just all front. Hold on,

859
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:17.239
we got a call on the wing. It's the first thing on the

860
01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:21.520
call. And I bet you're Jimmy. All right, jim come on in,

861
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:28.319
all right, you gott What did
I tell you? What did I

862
01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:33.920
tell you? By the way,
I want to talk a little bit about

863
01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:45.159
the what is that training camp?
And the training camp? You should be

864
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:49.840
proud of your team right now there, Jimmy, Detroit, Detroit Lions.

865
01:12:51.279 --> 01:13:00.039
They got some I don't want to
junx myself, but everything looks good.

866
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:05.359
I mean we should have an outstanding
season. Yeah, that's just a saying

867
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:09.720
that it should it should be that, right, Yeah, definitely, Yeah.

868
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:14.319
I think I know how they're doing
it now though. The people on

869
01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:19.399
that I'm just a moment chuck.
The people on that and doing it this

870
01:13:19.640 --> 01:13:28.880
way. They're putting it day by
day, on each game, on each

871
01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:34.880
players. So they'll show one for
one week, couple of teams and then

872
01:13:35.399 --> 01:13:43.600
off and in another week another uh
three days. So that's how they're working

873
01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:48.039
it. I'm seeing how they're working
it. The training camp things. That's

874
01:13:48.079 --> 01:13:51.000
how it moves. So have you
noticed that? Have you noticed that?

875
01:13:55.319 --> 01:14:02.199
Yeah? That's how it's worth it. I get realized that the heck coach

876
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:09.520
said that. It's I know what
he's up to me. I don't know

877
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:16.399
what he thinks. He's pretty good, head coach. That quarterback we got

878
01:14:16.520 --> 01:14:21.239
from you was a good deal in
the long run, in the long one,

879
01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:27.520
That's what we've been trying to tell
me. He will work on the

880
01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:30.880
long one, not the shoot one. In the long one, and and

881
01:14:31.319 --> 01:14:36.960
in time, come time come,
he will pick it up. He's probably

882
01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:45.159
already got some nice uh places how
to play and and and game thinkings.

883
01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:53.439
But but in the long one,
JAF, he's doing Philly will Yeah,

884
01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:57.199
yeah, yeah, we've said before. I know. I want to see

885
01:14:57.239 --> 01:15:00.640
him too good. I bet j
I think he's going to hope he does

886
01:15:00.319 --> 01:15:03.600
it. Definitely has the ability to. So it's just you know, being

887
01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:10.479
in the right place, doing the
right things. We'll see that. I'm

888
01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:15.720
interested to see how the Rams do
this year, because I don't even know

889
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:18.079
how to predict it at this I
don't know what they're up here on us.

890
01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:25.840
The point I just said, telling
him day by day they show a

891
01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:30.239
couple of training camps. Yeah we
haven't seen them. No, I haven't

892
01:15:30.319 --> 01:15:34.960
seen I amn't even seen the Dolphins
training camp. Guys see all of them

893
01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:42.840
or thirty two teams. I'm just
saying, and we haven't seen half of

894
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:49.079
them so the time in this whole
this coming week, we'll probably see three

895
01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:57.199
and in another set of three.
It's three times three six going down.

896
01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:05.199
Is how they operate the show on
they on the on the neck food.

897
01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:12.000
Yeah, you're talking about the televis
telling the televised televised training televising. Yeah,

898
01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:14.359
that's what I'm talking about. We
shall see that. I guess we

899
01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:16.439
might learn. That's how we do
the pub We see it, how how

900
01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:20.880
it looks. I'm just realizing that
today. I just found out out today.

901
01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:26.600
Can't wait to see that one.
And then they show the faces of

902
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:32.119
what training camps are gonna be,
the quarterback, the receiver, and the

903
01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:38.960
line packer. They show what camp. That's how they show it. Oh

904
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:42.479
okay, that's their format. That's
it format. Yeah, see, I

905
01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:45.239
know how they do it. Have
you seen any televised training camps, Jimmy,

906
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:56.000
even I haven't seen it. Yeah, we catch a couple because they

907
01:16:56.119 --> 01:17:01.239
do what sometimes they do them that
far from here, like fifty miles from

908
01:17:01.239 --> 01:17:08.560
where I'm at so like the local
news will show it live local. You're

909
01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:12.520
a local team, so you'll be
a local person to see that. It's

910
01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:16.960
gold like us seen it in I
haven't seen, but we haven't seen it

911
01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:19.680
because they haven't cooked. Yeah,
and you haven't seen the rams on the

912
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:24.520
local news, and I haven't seen
any of them yet, but they're coming.

913
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:27.720
I'm sure they come. It'll be
there, it'll beat it. And

914
01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:30.960
then of course we'll have the preseason
games. Those will be interesting to see

915
01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:36.199
the new talents. October August,
I mean August, like a couple of

916
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:41.680
weeks or not even like a week
or not even that's not even this week.

917
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:46.680
This coming week they'll start playing the
preseasons. Exciting, that's what's gonna

918
01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:50.199
happen. Bring it on. So
so, yeah, the football is coming

919
01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:54.640
back, and as such, we
will be talking about it here. They're

920
01:17:54.800 --> 01:17:59.840
on the broadcast on This is a
sports show sometimes sometimes a spot show,

921
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:03.319
sometimes whatever I make it. Sometimes
it's about food, sometimes it's about sports,

922
01:18:03.439 --> 01:18:09.159
you know. So it's that's what
they call the comedy show. It's

923
01:18:09.199 --> 01:18:13.680
always comedy, and it's always comedy, so uh, you can throw I

924
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:18.760
throw that all into it. So
whatever I'm throwing into my broadcast. That's

925
01:18:18.800 --> 01:18:23.479
what it's going to be. It's
a mix. Yeah, that's the world.

926
01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:27.399
It's a mixture. It's an interesting
mix. So yeah, we like

927
01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:30.439
to be a colectic here. I
make a little bit of everything. We're

928
01:18:30.520 --> 01:18:33.560
just trying to break through, Uncle, We're trying to break through on the

929
01:18:33.720 --> 01:18:40.439
online media scene. We're trying to
be visible. We're trying to get engagement.

930
01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:43.880
We're trying to get views, we're
trying to get likes. We're trying

931
01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:51.000
to get people that understand. Actually
my podcast, it's what we're trying to

932
01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:56.239
do. That's the that's the main
thing. What do you laugh at?

933
01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.159
So I kick well, I'm trying
to talk and really happen over here,

934
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:04.319
even laughing in the podcasting. If
we find somebody who's truly if somebody truly

935
01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:11.680
understands this show, yeah they deserve
I don't know what, but some kind

936
01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:15.520
of prize is some kind if you
understand the show, Chuck, what do

937
01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:21.279
we got anything in as we can
do something? What do you want prizes?

938
01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:26.840
What can we kick out? What
can we kick out? I don't

939
01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:30.119
know, because you guys ain't making
anything. You're not making nothing. You're

940
01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:34.279
talking about you're talking about the birch
stuff. You're upset that we don't have

941
01:19:34.399 --> 01:19:39.880
new bird. I'm trying to talk
to this man here, so I kick

942
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:43.439
here. You don't got nothing?
What we have? Uncle? The podcast

943
01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:49.279
t shirts? Well, that's it, but that's I'm We're gonna have more.

944
01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:56.800
I gotta give something to Chuck.
Chuck is pushing. He's doing more

945
01:19:57.159 --> 01:20:01.319
than you. Maybe, yes,
maybe, okay, pushing it out,

946
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:06.039
Okay, definitely like hey, Mike, hey, nice looking T shirt,

947
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:13.479
like a nice looking some other stuff
whatever it was, hats, hats and

948
01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:19.159
other things. But what are you
doing? I don't know what? And

949
01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:24.279
I'm still you owing about them?
Drop classes. No, not here yet.

950
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:28.520
We've got some hey, go in, I'm talking line around it.

951
01:20:28.880 --> 01:20:32.720
We've got some engagement in the chat
here. We've got challie doll x thirteen

952
01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:38.359
X. Where's Samus Davis? She's
asking? And then also he wants Uncle

953
01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:42.680
the podcast pop sockets? What the
heck are those? That's a product you

954
01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:46.000
suggested, Uncle. I don't know. I don't remember. You don't even

955
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.680
know what a pop socket is?
Dad? What do you know? Chat?

956
01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:51.800
You know? Anybo? No?
I don't. I don't know what

957
01:20:51.880 --> 01:20:56.760
a pop socket is no, I
don't. Well, whatever it is,

958
01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:00.119
I'm working on it, and it's
coming on it. What do you look,

959
01:21:00.399 --> 01:21:04.479
It's in the pipeline. We got
good things going on, right bigy.

960
01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:08.960
I hear it, but I don't
see it. On the lunch we

961
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:13.920
have shows the likes of which have
never been seen before. I know nothing.

962
01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:18.520
I know I know for a chuck
though, it is going to have

963
01:21:18.760 --> 01:21:24.880
me a T shirt one day it
comes. I know it. I know

964
01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:30.000
he's gonna come out with a shirt
for you. What I got. I

965
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:31.079
got a shirt coming for you.
I got I gotta wait for it to

966
01:21:31.159 --> 01:21:34.880
show up. I told you,
that's what. But with this man,

967
01:21:35.439 --> 01:21:42.520
I don't see that. Nothing.
Just just to wake with T shirts.

968
01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:45.520
Well, Sally Dolls saying that she
made pop sockets up, so so we

969
01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:49.920
got that on. Oh she apparently
it's a made up term on the fly.

970
01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:55.479
But that doesn't mean we can't make
him as my attitude, I'm I

971
01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:59.600
gotta can do attitude. Uncle,
Why what's this cannitude? I say,

972
01:22:00.319 --> 01:22:03.239
if you can think of it,
you can do it. Pop socket sounds

973
01:22:03.239 --> 01:22:06.520
like can't. Well, let's get
moving then, if you can do it,

974
01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:13.279
I can't. I don't see nothing
moving you can believe it, you

975
01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:16.560
can achieve it. I hear that. I can hear it. But let's

976
01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:25.439
see we unlet's see something you got. Let's see it in eyeball. You

977
01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:30.920
got you got to my stample.
I gotta see it in eyeball. You

978
01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:35.520
do as my meals. You see
him when I make example. Yes,

979
01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:44.439
Dan's showing you something. Okay,
I see but the people have to see

980
01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:51.439
it on Instagram, of course,
but it's the oh now creative Accidents has

981
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:56.199
an interesting insight at the Ocelli dot
com chat. He's saying, Uncle,

982
01:22:56.359 --> 01:23:00.760
I like your weather report on Instagram. What they need to talk to be

983
01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:04.880
prepared. Frankie McDonald, you don't
know who that is to your uncle Michael

984
01:23:05.039 --> 01:23:13.600
McDonald to singer. Are you thinking
about it? I remember his songs?

985
01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:18.279
Michael McDonald, Yeah, yeah,
Instagram. This is a different guy.

986
01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:24.800
This is Frankie McDonald. He's he's
carved a little niche for himself on social

987
01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:30.560
media where he's an interesting guy that
lives up in Canada and he I think

988
01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:38.319
British Columbia and he he does these
weather videos and he's an interesting guy.

989
01:23:38.479 --> 01:23:41.680
He does weather videos and he's he's
created an audience for himself, and so

990
01:23:42.319 --> 01:23:45.920
he not unlike what we sort of
hope to maybe do with our show.

991
01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:48.720
He's he's done it. So maybe
we should reach out to him and see

992
01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:51.039
if he could be a guest on
the show. He'd be a good guest

993
01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:59.720
on the show. Okay again,
Yeah, Frankie, Yeah, we'd love

994
01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:02.000
to have you on the show.
So maybe I'll send out an email here

995
01:24:02.039 --> 01:24:08.239
soon, not an email, I
would you say that? There we go

996
01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:15.039
on since the dress. Yeah,
I can find him on that should be

997
01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:21.119
that. Okay, new information on
new new info on pop sockets. Now

998
01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:26.399
we're being told pop sockets are the
handles on the back of phones. I

999
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:33.439
made up that uncle wanted them phones. Yeah, the back of back Oh

1000
01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:39.359
wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, you got those

1001
01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:43.800
those ones? Oh for a cell
phone? Those weird don't handles? It

1002
01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:48.039
stick on the back of the show. Understand you talking about nowadays? I

1003
01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:55.359
have I wouldn't put mine. My
zip thing came off because I lost the

1004
01:24:55.800 --> 01:24:59.640
glue off of it. Huh is
that what you're talking about? I think

1005
01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:00.840
that. I guess, so I
guess we are. Oh yeah, yeah,

1006
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:04.880
that's a good idea. Yeah,
yeah, because you know my wife

1007
01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:10.439
has one, Yes, I believe
and yeah, yeah, yeah, I

1008
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:12.840
know the one you saw him.
I know what you saw a little like

1009
01:25:13.159 --> 01:25:18.199
it almost looks like I've I've had
one. I have one, but I

1010
01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:24.199
can't put it together because I don't
have the glue. I have a few

1011
01:25:24.279 --> 01:25:27.359
of them. It's like a cabinet
draw Pa, how do you get the

1012
01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:32.079
glue on those? With this?
Lady? Well, this is all from

1013
01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:38.960
the twitch, Chatt, How do
you get the glue from them? How

1014
01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:43.159
do we get the gluey? They
hear, they hear, They definitely hear

1015
01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:45.479
the question. How do we get
the glue? How do we get the

1016
01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:53.520
glue for Popu pop Chuck? It's
to put some together because I have one

1017
01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:57.640
that I have it needs to be
repaired. Pig might take a minute to

1018
01:25:57.720 --> 01:25:59.960
get in the phone. Yeah,
it might take a minute to for them

1019
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:01.640
to hear it on Twitch. I'm
not sure if there's a little delay between

1020
01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:05.279
you and Twitch. I don't know. Uh, Like, I know there's

1021
01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:09.920
a minor delay on chelly dot com. Like it's a little behind, but

1022
01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:15.119
not by much. Asking can She's
saying, I got you uncle, there

1023
01:26:15.119 --> 01:26:21.600
you go. She's thinking of the
question, so have answer, because is

1024
01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:26.600
there a way to get some or
get some glue to fix it. Yeah,

1025
01:26:26.680 --> 01:26:29.960
there's probably a way to repair it
if you took a look at it.

1026
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:31.680
Either that or you know, you
just get a new one. That's

1027
01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:39.199
a popular way to go with a
lot of stuff. Well it might be,

1028
01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:45.760
yeah, I know it's I think
it is just to put a little

1029
01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:48.720
glue on it and popping on.
I have to take a look. I

1030
01:26:48.840 --> 01:26:53.800
am I'm can put it on it. I know the ones she's thought about.

1031
01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:55.319
No, we do, no,
No, I know what else.

1032
01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:01.720
I had him in Chapman. He
used to use them on your phone.

1033
01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:05.560
I had him on my phone.
I know you found it useful. Yeah,

1034
01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:11.479
to have that on your phone,
it is, It is okay,

1035
01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:15.640
but it has to stay there for
a while. That's glued, that's wants

1036
01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:21.319
to come off. Once it comes
off, trouble you can't get. That's

1037
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:26.399
what I'm asking If she's saying a
new one would be best, so she's

1038
01:27:26.439 --> 01:27:30.199
going with that answer is that it's
difficult to repair, easier to replace,

1039
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:36.239
So it goes I'm coole in this
planned obsolescens and they got those in and

1040
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:43.720
what places? Uh, I've seen
them around in all sorts of different places.

1041
01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:48.840
The phone stores must have them.
Probably truck stop would have them.

1042
01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:56.359
Maybe souvenir shops have them branded with
whatever. The souvenir shop is weird little.

1043
01:27:57.800 --> 01:28:00.880
I mean, you might find one
out of Ross Dress for Last because

1044
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:02.399
they have weird stuff in there.
You know, you find it anywhere out

1045
01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:06.600
of bed drift story. You might
roll up on it. I don't know

1046
01:28:06.680 --> 01:28:11.399
what you're gonna get it there,
so it definitely could be. You might

1047
01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:15.560
have to check. Yeah, you
can get ones that's slide on and off

1048
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:20.199
and our man to have them slide
and instead of you can't. That's what

1049
01:28:20.319 --> 01:28:23.880
this says. It says you can
get ones that's slide on and off and

1050
01:28:24.239 --> 01:28:28.439
ohize, that's that's what she just
said. Oh oh, let's see they

1051
01:28:28.520 --> 01:28:30.640
can look for that kind. Then
there you go, because that's kind I'd

1052
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:36.520
use more than I would put the
glue. Yeah. Let's see here.

1053
01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:42.439
The current view count on cheese the
cheese with Uncles up to one point nine

1054
01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:45.279
k views. That's not too bad
for being the first day, That's all

1055
01:28:45.279 --> 01:28:47.520
I'm saying. Going back to that
yet, I can't help myself. That's

1056
01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:56.760
the one I made today. Cho's
it's not bad. We shall see it's

1057
01:28:56.800 --> 01:28:59.960
just another Sunday night on a Shelly
dot com. That's all we're doing.

1058
01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:03.399
And we're just here talking. Yeah, we're talking, hating on a point

1059
01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:08.439
where we've got our caller, Jimmy, he's on the line with us.

1060
01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:14.199
We've got pretty good engagement across the
chat rooms via Twitch or dhli dot com

1061
01:29:14.319 --> 01:29:17.319
chat room. A lot of action
going on there. We got an audience.

1062
01:29:17.399 --> 01:29:21.199
U cool. It is a few
people listening. They're here, they're

1063
01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:30.960
there. But school man, I
am. He was in the chat moment,

1064
01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:33.520
but I haven't hearing him talking.
Yes, yes, he was earlier.

1065
01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:41.039
I think he still is the Dalli
chat he was. I'm not entirely

1066
01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:46.359
sure if he's still there, but
he was earlier tonight. Yeah, yeah,

1067
01:29:46.399 --> 01:29:49.840
he was there during my show.
Yeah, you didn't want to own

1068
01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:56.119
the comedy show. That's instrument.
Yes, indeed, you two could join

1069
01:29:56.199 --> 01:30:00.920
the chat at Ocelli dot com,
or you could watch the live stream Uncle

1070
01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:06.520
the podcast live streamed on YouTube,
on Twitch, on Twitter or x or

1071
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:12.439
wherever they call it Uncle's account there, and even Telegram if you can find

1072
01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:19.199
a weird little corner of Telegram.
Anybody notice my new glasses on? Yeah,

1073
01:30:19.319 --> 01:30:21.920
we're not here. Well on the
show, you're wearing yes, hello

1074
01:30:23.159 --> 01:30:26.279
on the show? Is that?
Oh no, what is this now?

1075
01:30:27.159 --> 01:30:31.359
Oh that's the thing, Okay,
that's show. That's just we're getting this

1076
01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:36.039
is what is this thing called a
pop what pop socket? The pop socket?

1077
01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:44.119
This is what did But this is
is this glued? This is where

1078
01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:49.279
it says. This is what they
talk she was talking about. Yeah,

1079
01:30:49.680 --> 01:30:54.359
how it pop? Competent enough to
do it? Whoa, It's like a

1080
01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:58.159
hall of mirrors. I'm looking at
myself on the phone here chipping me out.

1081
01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:06.239
Man. It's one of the things
all that uh huh, all the

1082
01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:15.840
way up forgetting things here. It
is so just imagine this. But the

1083
01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:19.840
graphic says uncle the podcast. Yeah, I like those ones like that instead

1084
01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:24.520
of the glue. Yea, I
have those ones. I have the one,

1085
01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:29.760
but I had the glue. I
wonder if we can and that's the

1086
01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:31.520
pop part, it pops up and
down. I wonder if we can make

1087
01:31:32.199 --> 01:31:36.840
can buy that piece. Thank you
very much. We might be all find

1088
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:41.960
us somewhere and get up branded and
then and then I can take it from

1089
01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:47.920
the glue. It gave me something
to think about these things. Food for

1090
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:53.560
thought is what we just ate yeah, food for thought. It's like a

1091
01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:58.720
dessert after dinner storted thing. Yeah, oh, there's okay. I do

1092
01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:01.520
see Ed in the chatroom. He
is there. He's talking about Uncle Lings.

1093
01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:08.119
No less, Oh what Uncle Lings? I guess that's I'm not saying

1094
01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:14.760
known about Uncle Lings talking about his
school. His school is too much.

1095
01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:17.960
It's either an appetizer or somebody who
listens to this show. I can't tell

1096
01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:21.199
which that is, but it sounds
like it could be either one of those

1097
01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:28.680
things. Uncle Ling. Uh so, yeah, well, are we on

1098
01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:32.840
a quiet type wait on phone calls? Well, Jimmy, I know Jimmy.

1099
01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:36.760
We got Jimmy. So how are
we doing over there? Jimmy,

1100
01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:44.840
how are we doing? Has anything
going for you? So? Doing good

1101
01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:53.520
here? Pretty good? M Jimmy's
maintaining Uncle Oh what's that? Now?

1102
01:32:53.680 --> 01:33:00.359
That the Canadian a spin off of
Rock Me? I wish that Canadian Robbin

1103
01:33:00.439 --> 01:33:04.199
with a call and he's got some
explaining to Yeah, that's what I'm waiting

1104
01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:12.439
for him. I gotta listen to
him now. Was that his his the

1105
01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:18.880
premiere of Canada is divorcing his wife? Oh? Yes, that's his wife's

1106
01:33:18.920 --> 01:33:32.159
divorcing. Oh who who is justin
Trudeau got Trudeau. I didn't know.

1107
01:33:32.239 --> 01:33:41.199
I didn't care about this when then
this happened, Yeah, pretty recently.

1108
01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:46.399
I mean the last few days.
Something he doesn't something she don't like,

1109
01:33:47.079 --> 01:34:00.479
probably whatever. Yeah, yeah,
on that phone, haven't he's doing.

1110
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:03.159
I know he can call us.
He's got the answers he has come on

1111
01:34:03.359 --> 01:34:08.600
Livin. Give me if it's cool. I'm waiting on the cool. Always

1112
01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:11.920
a good night when Robin calls in, because though you have to see what's

1113
01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:16.000
going on in that side of the
country. Yeah, it's you know,

1114
01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:19.960
it's the same continent, right,
Yeah, yeah, same continent, same

1115
01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:25.279
condent, North America. Part of
the North American community here. We need

1116
01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:29.760
to be good neighbors and keep up
with each other and know what's going on.

1117
01:34:30.039 --> 01:34:35.199
Yeah, it's all I'm sure.
And if you keep shaking him,

1118
01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:39.720
crave you give me any one.
I know he gave you a cool he

1119
01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:44.039
has, he would he will in
the future at some point. I don't

1120
01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:45.399
know when that'll be, but I'm
looking for to it. I can't wait

1121
01:34:45.520 --> 01:34:49.840
until the next time. Man,
it's good. Great, we're just living

1122
01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:57.439
our best life here on the broadcast, aren't we up? Call for what

1123
01:34:57.600 --> 01:35:03.199
I'm doing tonight? Chatting to ourselves. I tell bones, bringing off this

1124
01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:14.239
off the bown Chuck side. Indeed
not bad. My glasses? You like

1125
01:35:14.399 --> 01:35:18.159
those? We're talk Wait okay,
yeah, you mentioned the glasses earlier on

1126
01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:26.159
your thing. It's on the computer. Is it part of the graphics glasses?

1127
01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:31.279
It's one of these things in here. Just could take a while glasses

1128
01:35:31.399 --> 01:35:41.359
huh sun oh oh okay, now
I follow you. Okay, So this

1129
01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:49.000
so the thumbnail to one of these
short videos we've been talking about features Uncle

1130
01:35:49.079 --> 01:35:55.600
wearing his sun classes and yeah,
I think the thumbnail itself is kind of

1131
01:35:55.680 --> 01:36:00.079
captivating and garnered a few views in
and of itself. That's the angry Uncle

1132
01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:05.600
at soccer video, socking video,
something that I don't know what it was.

1133
01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:12.119
Yeah, I don't know how My
people kept on looking at Dancy Will

1134
01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:17.600
what he going about? We're onto
something. I don't know what it's.

1135
01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:21.720
These people that are looking at these
crazy things and they just want to look

1136
01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:27.319
at they are. Yeah. Now, there's all sorts of videos that these

1137
01:36:27.399 --> 01:36:31.800
YouTubers make. We could go about
emulating their formats Uncle, and I'm sure

1138
01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:36.039
it might do us some good to
do that. And some of the videos

1139
01:36:36.119 --> 01:36:44.319
aren't really gonna be doable like survive
two weeks in Antarctica. Whatever mister Best

1140
01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:47.960
happens to be doing. I don't
think that's really our style and we don't

1141
01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:53.680
want to be ripping off anybody like
that. But at the same time,

1142
01:36:53.720 --> 01:36:58.840
we could do those like reaction videos
where we watch weird videos we collect online

1143
01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:03.079
and then we react to them.
My think would be a good format that

1144
01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:06.239
does Uncle No, mister Beast.
Have you seen the mister Beast videos?

1145
01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:12.039
Uncle at all? No, No, he gives away tons of money.

1146
01:37:12.760 --> 01:37:16.000
You ever see this crazy money video
he gives away shows up or lets you

1147
01:37:16.039 --> 01:37:19.640
spend fifty thousand dollars right now,
and people don't believe him, and he

1148
01:37:19.720 --> 01:37:25.279
does. He lets him spend fifty
thousand dollars like he shows up ones.

1149
01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:31.039
I saw that hand the suitcase,
the guy that was a whistler. Well,

1150
01:37:31.119 --> 01:37:36.640
I was watching a bunch of mister
beasts with money. I was watching

1151
01:37:36.680 --> 01:37:40.359
a bunch of them this weekend with
my son. He said, he watches

1152
01:37:40.439 --> 01:37:42.920
them a lot. My son brought
him to me too, and he's like,

1153
01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:45.039
you gotta see this. I said, I'll come on, because he's

1154
01:37:45.039 --> 01:37:47.159
saying, oh no, this guy
gives away millions of dollars. I said,

1155
01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:50.920
who in there? Looker's gonna be
on YouTube giving away millions of dollars.

1156
01:37:51.399 --> 01:37:54.399
He said, oh no, you
gotta see it. And I watched

1157
01:37:54.479 --> 01:37:58.600
and lo and behold the guy does. Yeah, he just like walks in

1158
01:37:58.680 --> 01:38:00.039
him. Yeah, he walks into
a Walmart and says, hey, pick

1159
01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:02.159
out anything you want if you can
figure it out. If you can,

1160
01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:05.359
he like gives him there. He's
credit card and and he's like, hey,

1161
01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:08.159
well, you know what, if
you go over the limit, you

1162
01:38:08.199 --> 01:38:11.159
won't get anything. But if you
stay under the limit, and then people

1163
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:15.319
go nuts and shop and right,
you saw these errand didn't you? Oh

1164
01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:17.000
yeah, I've seen many of his
videos and yeah, I can't feel on

1165
01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:21.159
a whim. Just give somebody ten
grand like, oh do do? Like

1166
01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:25.600
this is some mundane thing, and
he gives you ten thousand dollars. Yeah,

1167
01:38:25.600 --> 01:38:27.680
I want to know what mall I
gotta go to, because I mean,

1168
01:38:27.840 --> 01:38:30.600
dude, you know, I know, I know he's given people large

1169
01:38:30.640 --> 01:38:39.000
sums of money. I'm sure he's
in a molly. He went to move.

1170
01:38:39.319 --> 01:38:42.600
He went to a crazy collector store. Right did you see the collector

1171
01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:46.520
one? The guy was grabbing like
autograph stuff and like big old movie stand

1172
01:38:46.600 --> 01:38:50.520
up movie props and all kinds of
like crazy stuff at like some California mall,

1173
01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:56.479
and they must have had like eighty
ninety thousand dollars worth of stuff.

1174
01:38:58.680 --> 01:39:02.800
Now we're getting also of interesting stuff
in the chat room. First of all,

1175
01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:08.520
Electric Dazz saying that the reaction videos
he thinks would be very good if

1176
01:39:08.520 --> 01:39:11.159
we did them, And I agree. I think the reaction video is a

1177
01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:17.439
good format for us to use.
Uncle like good. It's basically so,

1178
01:39:17.560 --> 01:39:21.520
mister Beast does this too. He's
got like his regular like co host guys

1179
01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:27.199
that show up, and one of
those guys, him and mister Beast watch

1180
01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:30.800
various videos. They collect all these
videos that they find online. It's like,

1181
01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:33.560
you know, and usually they're themes
like let's watch satisfying videos. So

1182
01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:38.439
they'll watch like somebody painting a wall
or whatever. Then I'll watch another video,

1183
01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:41.720
you know, paint being peeled or
whatever, satisfying videos. Okay,

1184
01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:46.159
let's look. Then I can see
that being good with your reactions being interesting.

1185
01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:49.840
Another good one which might be really
good for Uncle is if you can

1186
01:39:49.960 --> 01:39:56.439
find him music or stuff he's never
heard before or never seen before, Like

1187
01:39:56.560 --> 01:39:59.359
the music. I like the music
reaction ones where they're like, hey,

1188
01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:01.680
this is what happens when you play
you know, Slayer's Raining Blood for a

1189
01:40:01.760 --> 01:40:06.600
five year old. Yes, yes, exactly, And it's pretty funny those.

1190
01:40:06.960 --> 01:40:10.800
I mean, I know it's totally
waste of time, but it's just

1191
01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:15.520
like some of the stuff that happens
on there is pretty hilarious. When when

1192
01:40:15.560 --> 01:40:17.239
you like, we're gonna do this
for the first time, this person's ever

1193
01:40:17.319 --> 01:40:21.119
gonna hear this. You know,
they play metal or they play something weird.

1194
01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:25.119
Uh, you know, like,
hey, this is a song from

1195
01:40:25.119 --> 01:40:29.760
the eighties and they go, I
think that would be a good format to

1196
01:40:30.039 --> 01:40:33.079
use of us doing that, Uncle, I think that would be okay this

1197
01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:40.079
coming weekend. Oh, let's get
stuarted on it. Not now, we'll

1198
01:40:40.119 --> 01:40:43.199
do it soon, Do it soon
when you have the time, because yeah,

1199
01:40:43.199 --> 01:40:45.720
I know this week we've got another
request. Uncle. People are saying

1200
01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:56.159
they want a cactus taste test like
this. That's you that's talking about specialty,

1201
01:40:56.239 --> 01:41:00.640
uncle, Yes, specialty and the
back yard. That's right. We

1202
01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:14.720
could Uh how about the the the
the ones you're making with them to look

1203
01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:19.479
at, well, well, yeah, those the different even to have on

1204
01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:26.039
us. I would say that they
might get something out of that. It

1205
01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:30.159
occurs to me a crazy combo idea. You're ready for this one, Okay,

1206
01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:33.319
So Uncle puts together one of his
dishes, whatever they may be,

1207
01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:36.279
and then yeah, yeah, yeah, you can say it that way.

1208
01:41:36.359 --> 01:41:41.239
You get somebody with a reaction to
the dish. So now you got to

1209
01:41:41.239 --> 01:41:44.119
come and do a taste test.
I don't know if you should do it

1210
01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:46.600
with the kids, or if you
should do it with you know, a

1211
01:41:46.640 --> 01:41:51.479
neighbor, Like, find somebody who
can then do a taste test with Uncle's

1212
01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:56.199
food. Yeah, it could be
like Uncle's dinner party or something. You

1213
01:41:56.279 --> 01:41:59.680
invite people over and then Uncle cooks
and you have to eat whatever he sets

1214
01:41:59.720 --> 01:42:01.399
out you and then you have a
reaction. Okay, Uncle, not a

1215
01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:05.399
bad idea, right. I know
who I can start it with, though,

1216
01:42:06.319 --> 01:42:12.359
your son? Yeah, I gave
it to him. He'll eat will

1217
01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:16.840
trying is friend. Trying is friend, So you can force me. Well,

1218
01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:19.560
that's how you have to do it
with them. I know you had

1219
01:42:19.680 --> 01:42:24.760
to do it that some way.
Yeah, that might be a hard sell,

1220
01:42:24.840 --> 01:42:32.039
I'm thinking with that's him. You
have to find ways to encourage the

1221
01:42:32.600 --> 01:42:35.720
guests to eat your food. And
that's where mister Beast would be handed you

1222
01:42:35.800 --> 01:42:39.279
to have be like, I'll give
you twelve thousand dollars if you eat uncle

1223
01:42:39.399 --> 01:42:41.760
sandwich. Like, yeah, I
don't know if we're gonna be all pull

1224
01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:45.359
that off, but we have to
come up with an equivalent persuasive argument for

1225
01:42:45.439 --> 01:42:49.119
the person to get him to do
it. I guess not two thousand dollars

1226
01:42:49.239 --> 01:42:54.760
persuasive, but something I don't know. You can do a lot with mister

1227
01:42:54.800 --> 01:42:57.600
beast money. Okay, but I
don't got mister beast money neither you.

1228
01:42:57.760 --> 01:43:00.960
I don't think Uncle does. So
you know what we're gonna do it.

1229
01:43:00.039 --> 01:43:02.680
Look, man, I got ten
bucks for you. Come on, you

1230
01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:06.039
know ten bucks. Welcome to somebody
on the street. Excuse me, excuse

1231
01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:10.760
me? Would you eat this for
ten bucks? You would try that?

1232
01:43:11.840 --> 01:43:15.720
We could. It might work enough
to work. Yeah, the reaction videos

1233
01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:21.760
would be good. We may do
those. The cactus video I like actually

1234
01:43:21.920 --> 01:43:27.000
a lot, And that's a good
example of something that I would do if

1235
01:43:27.119 --> 01:43:30.720
we were doing more of if we
got to a point where we had an

1236
01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:35.000
audience. I knew that we were
gonna if we get to the point that

1237
01:43:35.079 --> 01:43:39.199
we'd like to be, we'd start
making videos like that. I would eat

1238
01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:44.039
the cactus with uncle and it would
be Yes. I think that would turn

1239
01:43:44.119 --> 01:43:49.119
out to be an interesting video on
call. Well, we we'd take these

1240
01:43:49.199 --> 01:43:53.720
spines off before we didn't, we'd
eat the inside of it and it would

1241
01:43:53.720 --> 01:44:00.359
be fine. It's very soft,
but we have a very good it could

1242
01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:04.039
be a very successful video segment.
What you guys should do is take that

1243
01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:09.680
food and get too hungry bumps,
So let fight it out. Who gets

1244
01:44:09.680 --> 01:44:17.920
stud like bum fights the video about? Yeah, I'm pretty sure everybody got

1245
01:44:17.960 --> 01:44:24.239
their bum fight videos band pretty much. That's all. Yeah, I think

1246
01:44:24.279 --> 01:44:27.640
I think Jimmy that that that's the
kind of thing that gets people knocking,

1247
01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:30.680
and especially now the Feds will come
knocking on your door you try and post

1248
01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:34.000
that on YouTube anymore. I read
something about that a couple of years ago

1249
01:44:34.119 --> 01:44:39.960
from the old successful because that was
a big thing on VHS and early DVD

1250
01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:45.760
was the Bumfight series. Yeah,
those guys got in trouble for sure.

1251
01:44:45.840 --> 01:44:50.800
I can't remember what exactly happened,
but they did. They did. Do

1252
01:44:50.840 --> 01:44:55.600
you remember what the charges were on
that chuck? They hit him with so

1253
01:44:55.800 --> 01:44:58.680
much different stuff. It pretty much
shut them down because they had a huge

1254
01:44:58.720 --> 01:45:03.840
successful mail order business this and it
got squashed by all sorts that they had

1255
01:45:03.880 --> 01:45:10.760
local, state charges everything. But
nowadays I read something about somebody trying to

1256
01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:14.039
resurrect that idea not too long ago. And I know for sure you can't

1257
01:45:14.079 --> 01:45:18.399
try and pull that on YouTube.
Ye, so yeah, you keep you

1258
01:45:18.479 --> 01:45:23.000
know, but there might be a
way to do it. Like I said,

1259
01:45:23.039 --> 01:45:26.279
if you if you're on the street, though, you offer somebody money,

1260
01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:30.039
that's a different thing where it's like
if you offer money not to you

1261
01:45:30.119 --> 01:45:32.680
know, not to fight, because
then you're encouraging what was it like encouraging

1262
01:45:32.720 --> 01:45:38.680
a violent act or whatever, because
yes, yeah, but you know the

1263
01:45:38.800 --> 01:45:42.239
bum fights thing. I don't want
to be emulating bump fights. Like I

1264
01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:45.479
think if I took anything from those
videos, it'd be just the talking to

1265
01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:49.520
the homeless I think can be a
good thing for video, but I wouldn't

1266
01:45:49.560 --> 01:45:54.439
want to do the bum fights variety. Well, they went crazy. They

1267
01:45:54.479 --> 01:45:57.119
went out there with that guy like
the crocodile hunter for a little bit and

1268
01:45:57.159 --> 01:46:00.960
they had bum hunter. Remember the
Yes, I think I remember that bit.

1269
01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:02.960
Yeah, I have seen the videos. Yeah, they were just like

1270
01:46:03.119 --> 01:46:05.359
pulling up people out of nowhere.
They were pulling them up when they were

1271
01:46:05.359 --> 01:46:09.920
sleeping and tying them up and all
kinds of crazy stuff. Yeah, they

1272
01:46:09.960 --> 01:46:14.119
got all he got out of hand
to those videos for sure. Yeah so

1273
01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:16.840
anyway, No, no, I
would not suggest the bum pipe thing,

1274
01:46:16.880 --> 01:46:19.960
but I mean going on the streets
somewhere in a public space, so long

1275
01:46:20.079 --> 01:46:24.199
as you are not you know,
so long as like businesses don't start calling

1276
01:46:24.239 --> 01:46:26.720
the cops on either chase your way
or whatever. Oh you know what,

1277
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:30.760
this brings up an interesting point.
Just the other day, a twitch streamer

1278
01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:34.159
put out some sort of message on
social media saying, hey, come down

1279
01:46:34.239 --> 01:46:39.039
to this park in New York City. I forget which one I'm gonna be

1280
01:46:39.159 --> 01:46:42.079
there giving out PlayStations. I think
it's what he said. And then a

1281
01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:45.720
bunch of kids showed up and there
ended up being a riot. Oh yeah,

1282
01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:49.319
the riot police came in. And
now that guy, that twitch streamer

1283
01:46:49.359 --> 01:46:54.560
has got charges on him because of
inciting a riot. But he didn't take

1284
01:46:54.640 --> 01:46:58.039
the proper precautions to create security or
anything, and he created it like a

1285
01:46:58.119 --> 01:47:00.520
flash mob that just sort of showed
up. And yeah, I just went

1286
01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:03.199
crazy out of control and they started
fighting with the cops and everything. It

1287
01:47:03.359 --> 01:47:06.600
was a madness because he was giving
away, he was he was giving away

1288
01:47:06.640 --> 01:47:12.119
either PlayStations or xboxes or something yep, and uh yeah, and just people

1289
01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:17.880
went nuts. So anybody going for
them, Hey, I can put it

1290
01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:23.399
in my machine. Pop. It's
it's a good comptionary tale. Uncle.

1291
01:47:23.439 --> 01:47:29.640
I mean we're talking all these like
gonough not not not not that fuck you

1292
01:47:29.720 --> 01:47:33.319
can't I not go that fut and
you gotta be careful not too That's that's

1293
01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:35.640
what we're saying. So we can
we can do these videos like well,

1294
01:47:35.680 --> 01:47:40.720
let's eat a cactus and make a
video. And we just had to keep

1295
01:47:40.760 --> 01:47:43.479
in the back of our mind.
Uncle is like, well, how far

1296
01:47:43.680 --> 01:47:46.840
is too far? Don't do that? Keep it simple, don't go too

1297
01:47:46.920 --> 01:47:53.079
crazy. I only do simple stuff. Yeah, exactly, like liking me,

1298
01:47:53.319 --> 01:47:59.119
you sthing sandwichs like I've been doing
me here bad simple stuff. I

1299
01:47:59.239 --> 01:48:04.079
mean put it. Do it more
than that you're looking for trouble, Yes,

1300
01:48:04.199 --> 01:48:08.479
exactly. We don't want to do
that. I mean that that that

1301
01:48:10.119 --> 01:48:15.239
now now there's there's it's it's an
odd time because it's it's got I feel

1302
01:48:15.279 --> 01:48:23.560
like we've really got to this point
where these streamers and internet celebrities and and

1303
01:48:23.920 --> 01:48:30.399
influencers whatever, or at this point
where they're doing these wild things, and

1304
01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:32.039
it's sort of you. They're on
the precipice where this sort of thing was

1305
01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:38.199
gonna start happening. Apparently it is
now. I don't want to get it

1306
01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:43.520
over overpopulating, you know, I
mean he want you want to do a

1307
01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:48.000
podcast, but not to have it
like you're saying, we just want to

1308
01:48:48.119 --> 01:48:54.000
change. I don't want know what
we're doing. You can't have ten thousand

1309
01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:56.520
people show up and you've got no
way to direct traffic. I mean,

1310
01:48:56.640 --> 01:49:00.439
that's that's that's a you know,
you got about ten minute it's left,

1311
01:49:00.520 --> 01:49:02.520
just so you know, because you're
gonna go six over the hour and we're

1312
01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:05.600
already at fifty six, so you
got about ten minutes left. Okay,

1313
01:49:06.079 --> 01:49:11.680
Well, very good, it's pretty
good, all right here? Ok fine,

1314
01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:17.560
no six manute. We should know
now, not many Colas or any

1315
01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:26.319
Jimmy. We know. And I
guess that last week didn't wasn't very good.

1316
01:49:28.159 --> 01:49:32.039
Got a better cut back on my
talking. I haven't been talking much

1317
01:49:32.479 --> 01:49:36.560
tonight. Oh do you want to
take a couple more words? Because of

1318
01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:42.800
because of what I said last week? It's not that good. Oh wait

1319
01:49:42.800 --> 01:49:45.079
a minute, you know what I
wanted to mention a couple of things.

1320
01:49:45.359 --> 01:49:47.640
Well, now you want a couple
of things. Well, first of all,

1321
01:49:47.640 --> 01:49:51.960
I wanted to correct something. I
mentioned that the Orkney Islands were in

1322
01:49:53.079 --> 01:49:57.800
Ireland. They are not. They're
their own islands off the coast of Scotland.

1323
01:49:57.880 --> 01:50:00.000
They're kind of affiliated with Scotland.
Not really, I don't know.

1324
01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:04.840
And then I also said that nobody
mentioned Jamaica Queen's. Actually your sister did.

1325
01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:09.960
And then also I must say thank
you to Carolyn, who gave us

1326
01:50:10.079 --> 01:50:14.600
a pretty good donation. And she
said, she said, yeah, she

1327
01:50:14.680 --> 01:50:16.520
gave us a good donation. And
she said, Uncle, enjoy watching your

1328
01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:18.960
videos and listen to your show.
So there we go. We got a

1329
01:50:19.039 --> 01:50:24.159
fan there. We must be doing
something right. Carolyn was very nice and

1330
01:50:24.199 --> 01:50:30.119
gave us a really good Carolyn So, thank you Carolyn, thank you forgotten

1331
01:50:30.319 --> 01:50:33.640
show. I was wondering who that
was. Yeah, thank Kaman. Now

1332
01:50:33.720 --> 01:50:39.680
wait a minute, she might be
listening. Apparently she is. And yeah,

1333
01:50:39.800 --> 01:50:43.319
she said as much in the comment
on the thing. But did you

1334
01:50:43.399 --> 01:50:45.640
want to mention something? I didn't
mean to cut you off there, uncle,

1335
01:50:45.720 --> 01:50:51.680
did you want to mention something like
very nice too? Finally listening to

1336
01:50:51.840 --> 01:50:56.960
me? Damn, that was nice. I appreciate that. Yeah, it's

1337
01:50:57.000 --> 01:51:05.399
good and yes, so what we're
good? Here? Is it quiet night?

1338
01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:10.600
Of course, I can understand people
do not want to it's a good

1339
01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:14.199
opportunity to workshop. Idea. Is
that call. That's what we're going We're

1340
01:51:14.319 --> 01:51:20.239
using shop of trying to make more
people listen. We are getting to that

1341
01:51:20.520 --> 01:51:26.319
point. It seems they are listening. Yes, I gotta say they are.

1342
01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:31.399
They're clearly are listening, especially to
my menus. Yes, to my

1343
01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:35.720
menus. You should you eating?
Amt to me? Well, you got

1344
01:51:35.760 --> 01:51:41.439
this money. See this cheese thing. See when he came over with the

1345
01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:45.920
cheese thing. I mean, yeah, it's just the menu. It's almost

1346
01:51:45.960 --> 01:51:51.479
two thousand views right now. We
just posted today, just one day.

1347
01:51:51.600 --> 01:52:00.479
And to find it. You're asking
pretty good for something like that might be

1348
01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:03.600
the way to go on call,
I think so you gotta choice them to

1349
01:52:03.720 --> 01:52:10.640
call in give me more. You
need to tregue them and get them to

1350
01:52:10.880 --> 01:52:15.279
You got plenty of listeners, reviewers. You just want to work. Callers

1351
01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:19.560
need more. That's what exactly what
you're saying, Jimmy, That's exactly what

1352
01:52:19.640 --> 01:52:25.640
I'm looking for. Don't to call, don't fay to call the number number

1353
01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:29.239
the numbers three one nine, five
two seven, five zero one six,

1354
01:52:29.520 --> 01:52:33.760
and that is the number to call
every week. If you want to call

1355
01:52:33.840 --> 01:52:40.000
me, that's the number to call. So don't he's dead. Yep.

1356
01:52:40.399 --> 01:52:43.720
You can use Skype as well.
Skype won't and talk in the Chuck.

1357
01:52:43.800 --> 01:52:46.399
You type a message to he'll bring
you on the show. On the show.

1358
01:52:47.079 --> 01:52:51.600
So Skype for the phone calls.
You love having you call in.

1359
01:52:53.239 --> 01:52:56.600
I think that's what we're gonna have
to push more on the phone calls.

1360
01:52:56.680 --> 01:53:00.000
But I don't do with the phone
pushing them, but on the phone calls.

1361
01:53:00.039 --> 01:53:03.640
This interesting too, is once you
get to a level of a certain

1362
01:53:03.720 --> 01:53:09.239
size of an audience, phone calls
flow into such a degree that you got

1363
01:53:09.359 --> 01:53:14.920
to keep like hanging up on them. This is people with larger audiences.

1364
01:53:15.039 --> 01:53:18.399
That seems to be how it goes
for them. Our our audience is good

1365
01:53:18.600 --> 01:53:23.000
and it's great, and it's a
good size, and it doesn't necessarily have

1366
01:53:23.199 --> 01:53:29.119
to be size. That's talking about
the sizes you know. Well, you

1367
01:53:29.199 --> 01:53:31.479
know, if you notice like a
revolution night, right, or other nights

1368
01:53:31.520 --> 01:53:33.760
where we got a lot of callers
that come in, I do I bring

1369
01:53:33.840 --> 01:53:38.680
them in and out, in and
out, because you have to Jimmy can

1370
01:53:38.760 --> 01:53:42.800
just hang out with us right like
he's been doing because there's not a lot

1371
01:53:42.840 --> 01:53:45.199
of callers. But if there was
more, yeah, you gotta you gotta

1372
01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:47.359
rotate him in and out, in
and out when you get to a certain

1373
01:53:47.439 --> 01:53:50.079
level. Yeah, that's the way
it is. And that usually means you've

1374
01:53:50.079 --> 01:53:55.199
got a large live audience, which
you know what, none of us really

1375
01:53:55.439 --> 01:54:00.119
almost nobody's got a large live audience
anymore, not a large one. You

1376
01:54:00.319 --> 01:54:02.720
was coming along, Chuck. My
audience is only to you know, not

1377
01:54:02.920 --> 01:54:05.880
not not much different than yours live. Most of the time, it's it's

1378
01:54:05.880 --> 01:54:10.760
all about the podcast after, you
know, just like these videos when you're

1379
01:54:10.920 --> 01:54:14.960
doing them live, there's a few
people there, but then thousands of people

1380
01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:16.600
will go get them later, you
know what I mean. That's just the

1381
01:54:16.640 --> 01:54:20.079
way they go back to them.
Yeah, yeah, that's a good thing

1382
01:54:20.119 --> 01:54:24.760
with the podcast. Well, yeah, that's what that's It makes it and

1383
01:54:25.760 --> 01:54:30.920
doesn't say if, for example,
a load of people was gonna cool,

1384
01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:36.039
but let's wait and see him put
it on an ab put it on this

1385
01:54:36.840 --> 01:54:45.079
show, and we'll get it back
to them and following late maybe they'll call

1386
01:54:45.279 --> 01:54:47.960
that maybe how it will Yeah,
yeah, but I'm telling you. I've

1387
01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:53.800
listened to some shows that are like
Vibrato show slash podcasts, and certain people

1388
01:54:53.960 --> 01:54:59.279
usually if it's a celebrity doing a
show, they can garner garner an audience

1389
01:54:59.359 --> 01:55:02.079
the size when they start taking calls. The calls keep coming in and the

1390
01:55:02.159 --> 01:55:05.680
host tends to like talk to him
for like a even like a few seconds,

1391
01:55:05.720 --> 01:55:09.359
and then they just hang up on
him. Then immediately they get another

1392
01:55:09.439 --> 01:55:12.520
call, and they keep going like
that for as long as they want.

1393
01:55:12.640 --> 01:55:16.560
Really, So it's that's that happens. Oh, I'm having a couple like

1394
01:55:16.680 --> 01:55:23.520
that. Back in the past,
I had a couple like that. It's

1395
01:55:23.600 --> 01:55:30.279
time money bakes to do. I've
had that. I know what you're talking.

1396
01:55:30.359 --> 01:55:34.439
It sets up an entire different dynamic
that we're not used to here because

1397
01:55:34.479 --> 01:55:38.640
you end up with like ten people
on the line, so you got to

1398
01:55:38.680 --> 01:55:41.039
try and get him in, get
him in, get him in. And

1399
01:55:41.439 --> 01:55:44.920
I'm having that problem on Friday nights. People are waiting a long time because

1400
01:55:44.960 --> 01:55:48.640
we're talking too much and other people
are talking too long, and I can't

1401
01:55:48.720 --> 01:55:53.119
get everybody. Jimmy could tell you
he was on he was on hold like

1402
01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:59.880
over an hour this past Friday on
my show yeah, yeah, Jim,

1403
01:56:00.079 --> 01:56:01.840
you're on You're on hold, like
over an hour on Friday, right,

1404
01:56:04.319 --> 01:56:09.840
Oh yeah, yeah, there was
a couple of people that were on hold

1405
01:56:09.880 --> 01:56:13.640
for an hour because we couldn't get
through the calls quick enough. See,

1406
01:56:13.680 --> 01:56:15.920
that's the thing. You got to
change the way that you deliver. If

1407
01:56:15.960 --> 01:56:17.520
you start getting a whole lot of
them lighting up, then you got to

1408
01:56:17.600 --> 01:56:20.920
move them through quickly. And I
did a bad job of it this this

1409
01:56:21.039 --> 01:56:24.560
week. I had I had at
least two of them sitting there for over

1410
01:56:24.600 --> 01:56:28.359
an hour, and uh did the
best I could trying to get through.

1411
01:56:28.399 --> 01:56:29.720
And I'm like, all right,
all right, all right, all right,

1412
01:56:29.760 --> 01:56:31.079
guys, move on, move on. And I just couldn't even get

1413
01:56:31.159 --> 01:56:36.199
him, you know. So it
was it was tough. But but usually

1414
01:56:36.279 --> 01:56:39.680
that doesn't happen. We're happy to
have one two callers, you know,

1415
01:56:39.840 --> 01:56:43.880
everybody's happy. But yeah, when
you get when you get them lined up

1416
01:56:43.920 --> 01:56:45.319
like that, you gotta run them
through as fast as you can. And

1417
01:56:45.399 --> 01:56:47.520
then at the end of the show
there's some guys you didn't even get to

1418
01:56:48.840 --> 01:56:54.680
no matter how fast you Well,
that's why I push it along, like

1419
01:56:56.039 --> 01:57:02.239
I'm gonna have a limit on my
talking five minute talk to the new people,

1420
01:57:03.319 --> 01:57:09.079
and then if there's another one behind
it, it comes back, chuck.

1421
01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:14.039
If another one behind it comes back, I'll say, hold him,

1422
01:57:14.399 --> 01:57:23.600
I gotta call them. I'm going
to do let's talk understanding the person who's

1423
01:57:23.680 --> 01:57:26.960
on it here it is uncle.
I'm set up for that already. The

1424
01:57:27.119 --> 01:57:30.760
second somebody calls in, if I
wait like a minute after they got on

1425
01:57:30.880 --> 01:57:32.359
there, I make sure that they're
gonna stay on hold, and then I

1426
01:57:32.520 --> 01:57:35.439
ring your phone. You hear it. So I'm set up. If we

1427
01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:41.039
got a hundred callers, okay at
the beginning of the show, no problem.

1428
01:57:41.239 --> 01:57:45.119
I will keep running them through to
you. Okay, But this is

1429
01:57:45.159 --> 01:57:47.880
wondering about that, because it's depending
on if I can get them tune and

1430
01:57:48.119 --> 01:57:51.479
just okay, I got another cluck, I got another clup. I'll get

1431
01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:55.199
them. I'll get them all.
That's what you were doing. You said,

1432
01:57:55.399 --> 01:57:58.520
I don't pick them up. I'll
pick them up all. But if

1433
01:57:58.560 --> 01:58:03.680
I got this many, I'm not
gonna let's say waste one, right,

1434
01:58:04.840 --> 01:58:08.800
That's what I'm knowing. That's what
I don't want to do. Yeah,

1435
01:58:08.880 --> 01:58:12.039
if everybody wanted to call in all
at once, no problem. I can

1436
01:58:12.119 --> 01:58:14.319
handle that. But you know,
What the problem was for me this past

1437
01:58:14.359 --> 01:58:16.840
week on the Friday Show is I'm
trying to talk and I'm trying to manage

1438
01:58:16.880 --> 01:58:20.960
other people talking. And what I
should have done is I should have put

1439
01:58:21.079 --> 01:58:26.119
Harlan on hold quicker and just okay, okay, good, you're done with

1440
01:58:26.199 --> 01:58:28.920
your point put. I should have
moved him along faster. And I wasn't

1441
01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:30.880
used to doing it. But when
I'm sitting here just being the producer,

1442
01:58:31.239 --> 01:58:35.399
it's easier because I can just watch
that phone line and I know how fast

1443
01:58:35.479 --> 01:58:39.920
I can run them through. The
problem is I see, yeah, when

1444
01:58:39.960 --> 01:58:44.920
you do with you own, that's
tough that I see what you're yeah,

1445
01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:46.720
yeah, yeah, I see what
you mean. Because I'm producing my show

1446
01:58:46.800 --> 01:58:50.079
too. That's the point. Yeah, if you're producing it and then you're

1447
01:58:50.159 --> 01:58:55.960
doing it and then you calling yeah, yeah, I see that, uncle.

1448
01:58:56.239 --> 01:59:00.800
Yeah. See, that's why you're
need That's why I need another guy

1449
01:59:00.840 --> 01:59:02.520
to help me out with the production, because the thing is, when I

1450
01:59:02.600 --> 01:59:06.199
do Your New Year's Revolution, we
get to everybody, right, everybody gets

1451
01:59:06.279 --> 01:59:11.439
on and sometimes boom boom boom boom
boom. Right, we get everybody.

1452
01:59:11.880 --> 01:59:15.439
See you're going to Texas. You're
going to Texas soon, in November.

1453
01:59:15.560 --> 01:59:26.079
Yeah, fine down if you can
find none ass or ass can you can

1454
01:59:26.199 --> 01:59:32.159
you? I'm lens, give me
a hand on my producing side. Producer

1455
01:59:32.239 --> 01:59:38.960
down there be in there in Dallas, somewhere in there, just to mention

1456
01:59:39.079 --> 01:59:42.279
it. We'll just mention. I'll
put it out like this. If somebody's

1457
01:59:42.319 --> 01:59:45.359
listening to the Uncle's show right now
and wants to help out with production on

1458
01:59:45.439 --> 01:59:48.439
Ocelli dot com. I won't hand
you Aaron and Uncle's show right away because

1459
01:59:48.600 --> 01:59:53.079
I handle that and I don't want
to trust nobody else with it until they

1460
01:59:53.079 --> 01:59:56.520
know exactly what they're doing. But
I'll teach you how to produce using my

1461
01:59:56.680 --> 02:00:00.199
show if you want. I'll teach
somebody how to produce again, want to

1462
02:00:00.279 --> 02:00:02.760
learn how to do this? And
you could be the other producer and we

1463
02:00:02.800 --> 02:00:04.920
could mix things up. It would
be great. I would love it.

1464
02:00:05.000 --> 02:00:11.439
We could do more shows. That's
where I see what you need. So

1465
02:00:11.680 --> 02:00:15.399
if you can fit that down,
say that. So let's see what happens.

1466
02:00:15.560 --> 02:00:20.039
You said that, see what happens
the next week exactly. Info at

1467
02:00:20.119 --> 02:00:25.239
o'chelly dot com right to me there
and I will I will set you up.

1468
02:00:25.279 --> 02:00:28.159
I'll show you how to do it. All of that. If if

1469
02:00:28.199 --> 02:00:30.520
you want to learn, I'll teach
you. I can't pay you, but

1470
02:00:30.640 --> 02:00:34.800
I can teach you. And you
know, hey, if things start to

1471
02:00:34.840 --> 02:00:36.720
work out towards the end of the
year, who knows, maybe we can

1472
02:00:36.760 --> 02:00:41.079
all start to get a little something
out of it too. But I can't

1473
02:00:41.079 --> 02:00:43.640
offer that right this minute. First
thing I gotta do is pay the guys

1474
02:00:43.680 --> 02:00:45.359
doing the shows. Then after that, if we can figure out a way

1475
02:00:45.359 --> 02:00:47.880
to make everybody a little bit of
money, that would be wonderful. But

1476
02:00:47.960 --> 02:00:49.920
it's not about the money. If
you want to learn how to do this,

1477
02:00:50.119 --> 02:00:54.159
and I can show you how to
run the phones and the broadcast and

1478
02:00:54.239 --> 02:00:58.840
all that, it's it's very very
helpful and you can take that skill and

1479
02:00:58.920 --> 02:01:00.800
do your own thing, your own
radio station after that if you want.

1480
02:01:01.399 --> 02:01:05.479
But you know, hey, help
me out for a little while. There

1481
02:01:05.520 --> 02:01:13.880
you go, there we go.
That worked. Wasn't good offer for possibly

1482
02:01:14.119 --> 02:01:17.640
somebody who could help me sell you
radio network and about just on one mind

1483
02:01:17.680 --> 02:01:21.920
doing it. Yeah, just to
say and that's I mean, this goes

1484
02:01:23.000 --> 02:01:26.079
back to the point of hyber mac
and cheese videos un called. Yeah,

1485
02:01:26.239 --> 02:01:30.720
going right back to my menu.
We're trying going to let menus, I

1486
02:01:30.840 --> 02:01:33.560
call up my menus, not cheese
man. Okay, sorry, my menu.

1487
02:01:33.680 --> 02:01:39.479
That's we're doing my menus. Okay, that's how you say. Okay,

1488
02:01:39.600 --> 02:01:44.199
not we're not doing cheese videos.
Okay, we're working on Uncle's menus.

1489
02:01:44.439 --> 02:01:46.720
Yeah, and we're doing a lot
of it. Yeah. And by

1490
02:01:46.880 --> 02:01:53.680
George, I think we're onto something
something because he even got got his wife

1491
02:01:54.000 --> 02:02:00.199
into doing the calling out and she
calling wait a minute, wait man,

1492
02:02:00.279 --> 02:02:02.079
let me go on phone and you
know how let go. So if you

1493
02:02:02.119 --> 02:02:05.960
want to watch these videos, it's
at on the podcast on Instagram mainly,

1494
02:02:06.079 --> 02:02:12.439
but also actually YouTube. It's at
Uncle podcast now and Twitter that were x

1495
02:02:12.600 --> 02:02:15.359
or whatever in the world it is, and we're Uncle the Podcast dot com.

1496
02:02:16.640 --> 02:02:19.239
I'm at the end of the show
for this week Uncle. Okay,

1497
02:02:19.399 --> 02:02:26.119
Jimmy, yo up, Okay,
shout out for Jimmy. Jimmy got shout

1498
02:02:26.159 --> 02:02:38.720
out, Yeah, shout out to
you. There's Chuck and everyone can n

1499
02:02:41.479 --> 02:02:45.840
support the network. Can have a
good weekend. Actually, I guess weekends

1500
02:02:45.880 --> 02:02:49.840
over a good pretty Greek take care, Jimmy, Thank you, Jimmy,

1501
02:02:50.279 --> 02:02:56.039
Uncle did you watch out out?
Shout out? Who is the ever listening?

1502
02:02:56.439 --> 02:03:04.720
I should say? Oh damn to
understand my menus and keep on listening

1503
02:03:05.800 --> 02:03:13.760
and watching. Who's that screaming?
Somebody screaming? I think it's everybody for

1504
02:03:13.840 --> 02:03:16.079
listening tonight, everybody in the chat
room. Great to have to again at

1505
02:03:16.159 --> 02:03:19.800
that must podcast. They must have
been the chatman. Caroline, thanks again

1506
02:03:19.880 --> 02:03:24.319
for the generous nation. We really
appreciate it, Uncle I, and bring

1507
02:03:24.399 --> 02:04:00.399
us home for there's a three hundred
and fifth episode. Bye bye the