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you're listening, you got a question for the guests, be great to have
you call in and join us. The guest tonight is a return guest,
which I'm very happy to a back and very excited. He was the author
of Dancing with My Fate and we had him on to talk about that book
last time. This time he's got a new book that's out titled American Values,
so we'll be talking about that tonight. I'm excited. My guest is
Sam. I'd let Sam welcome back. Pay Aaron, thanks again for having
me back. I'm also really excited to dig in and hear your thoughts and
share some more on my own. Hopefully some folks call in too. Yeah,
yeah, that would be fun and we definitely encourage it. So again
the numbers three one nine, five, two seven, five zero one six,
call in, ask Sam a question, joined the conversation. Be happy
to have you, but yeah, it's it's great to hear you again,
Sam, to be talking to you, and yeah, the book is awesome,
I'll say, just out of the gates. I got my copy and
I read it, and it's one of those books that it's like just incredibly
easy to read. It's one of those ones you just sit down and you
just consume it. I could easily sat down in one sitting and did it.
I did it in two. But it's very easy to read. It's
quick concise, which I think is also quite nice too. I like the
fact that it's not too terribly long. I think that's actually strength that the
book has. So yeah, overall, i'll just say that out of the
gates, well done man. Thanks. Yeah. I mean I definitely always
when I'm writing, this is a little bit of writing nerdery, but you
know, I try to channel my inner hemming way, and you know,
I don't want to waste people's time. I don't want to sound, you
know, like I'm putting on errors or being pretentious. I want to get
to the point, get to the meat, and hopefully I can connect,
because that's what I'm trying to do when I write, is connect with people.
So any you know, privilties that would distract from that, it's not
really what I'm trying to do. It's not easy to to write that way.
And it took me about a year to write this book. Pets one
hundred pages took me a year. But you know, I think I appreciate
you saying that because I'd like to believe that I achieved that. Oh yeah,
yeah, definitely. Man. It's really engaging. Yeah, engaging and
easy to read without a doubt. And it's an interesting format too. I
mean, how would you describe this book? What's what's the pitch to the
reader on this book? What is this book? What's the format? Just
like give us like a brief sort of like primer of what American values is.
Sure? So the tagline I like to have a little tagline and on
the back, you know, the tagline says, never stop trying to find
out who others really are. Never stop trying to show others who you really
are. That's the mysterious. You know. Hopefully that starts to pick people's
curiosity and then I people to join me on a journey across the United States
from east to west. And maybe I think this particular audience of your show
will pick up on a lot of things that maybe some other folks won't.
But you know, I travel from east to west on a search for what's
really valuable. A lot of people have gone on a journey west to find
gold, and there's a lot of symbolic value in that, and I'm doing
the same thing. I'm looking for symbolic gold. Okay, Now, reading
this was interesting because there's like so many stories and different places that you go.
You go to specific places, like each chapter is like a new destination
that you're stopping at on the road trip, so to speak. I was
just wondering how many of these little stories are things that actually happened to you.
And then also, out of all these places in the book, how
many of you actually been to Have you been to all these places in real
life? Wouldn't you like to know? No, that's that's that's part of
the mystery. And I think, you know, I'll say that I won't
tell you which ones, but there are certainly a lot of things that I
have done and that are real in the book. And then there's some things
that I kind of recreated virtually using Google Maps and very you know, I've
dug I dug into the space, you know, so I know about it,
but I haven't actually physically been there. But through technology you can basically
be virtually there. To quote some old stuff that you you had worked on
it and it disn't pass, but you know, you're able to facilitate a
kind of a virtual scoping out of a place. So it was a little
bit of both. I did that on purpose, because it's kind of intentional
blurring of the lines between you know, metaphor and reality, which is a
very American thing to do. Yeah, it's interesting. As I was reading
it, I felt like you mentioned a lot of places that I myself have
been to and and and different things you bring up are things that are like
things that I remember from my past, Like all sorts of little details will
pop up, places like the Stratosphere, a hotel I went to that when
when in two thousand and eight, when I first came out to California,
that was one of the places we stopped on the way, and that happened
to be the hotel that my wife and I stayed at at the time,
So it made it. It brought me back to that. And it's interesting
that writing strike you because I'll give it I'll give it away that I have
not been to the Stratosphere. Yeah, yeah, I kind of that of
all the places. I figured, like, okay, he's probably making that
up. But I found it interesting and it made me specifically remember being up
in the top of that building and looking down. It was it was nighttime
and looking down through the windows and you could see Vegas and just that and
just that trip. Generally speaking, that was my first encounter with the whole
city because I've never been out there before. So again, it's kind of
it's an interesting memory for me. It kind of jives with what's going on
the book. I know that you're at the bar in this book. I
didn't go to a bar up there, but I did just kind of go
and look out the windows and it was cool. So yeah, that was
one of many bars. But what was Adam sorry, is that I'm not
sure if there's really a bar. That was an oversight, I guess,
right, yeah, I can't. I can't remember if there's one up there,
and I remember the windows. I don't know if there's a bar at
the top. Certainly a bar at the bottom, because the casinos at the
bottom at the base there, and you better believe there's bars down there.
But yeah, that was that was cool, and I mean, there's so
many things that popped up. Another thing that popped up for me that just
kind of brought me back to another time in my life, was you're mentioning
Kirk Schillings. Because being from Pennsylvania, the Phillies were on the TV and
we used to watch Phillies games a lot. Schilling was one of the star
pitchers there for a while back at the time that I was watching, so
you know, I know him pretty good. And yeah, that story was
real, that that was a real thing, and I you know, I
did play a little league and I do have a real memory of having big
league chew and it was Kirk Chilling and I thought he was cool because I
was watching. I think it was either Phillies or Red Sox. I don't
remember when he, you know, where he was in that moment, but
you know, I was young, and I think he was in the Phillies.
He must have been, because Red Sox was later. Yeah, okay,
and he had the pinch as he always you know, and I remember
like mimicking that and you know, being like, okay, I'm cool now
because I'm like a pro baseball player. Yes, so the marketing of the
bubblegum, that's what it was. Is like, you can be like a
baseball player, but you're not chewing tobacco. You're doing something a kid's able
to do. So there, yeah, yeah, And I mean we can
we can back up a little bit and talk about that story. But it's
it's just really good to hear you being able to relate so well to these
stories. But you know, just in general, my intention here is to
be relatable because you know, this is kind of a conspiracy yarn right in
a way. But I found that, you know, every book I've read
that has been kind of the truth about the conspiracy, and you've come into
it on this a lot at length on your show, and it's it's scary,
and you know, I I'm it is scary, for sure. You
know, the world can be scary, and I think there's there's enough of
that. But what they're what needs to be here, in my opinion,
you know, is people being able to relate to others, and not in
a superficial way, but in a very real way. And so for me,
that story about Kurt Schelling and you know, Marketers peddling, you know,
activities for children that emulate cancer causing. You know, like, this
is just a super relatable thing, Like everybody can get that on some level,
you know, no matter what your upper room was. Yeah, and
it's not necessarily even you're you're not delving into conspiracy land by doing that.
You're just like taking a casual observation of the world, which when done so
it's it's it's quite like, I mean, it's it's it's crazy to think
that something marketed to kids could have such a dark, subversive side to it.
But when you look at it on his face, of course that's what
it is. But we just kind of take that as just a matter of
course in our day and time, and yeah, we don't think of it
as like anything nefarious, even though when on its face it is. And
then that kind of that point leads you back to the conspiracy theory sort of
realm, and you're saying like, well, I think what you're saying is
like, look, these just like things that we take for granted and don't
even think twice about. Really sometimes we'll stop and we'll talk for a minute.
But when you look at it, it's almost like a gateway to like,
well, if this is going on, it stands to reason that you
can kind of take that analogy further and say, well, what else is
happening? And it's almost as are you making an argument for taking conversations further
to what would be labeled by a lot of people conspiracy theory and trying to
destigmatize. You're just trying to relate, like, what's what's going on here?
Yeah, So it's interesting that you asked me that. So you know,
I know you you and I have a little bit more of the backstory
than than your listeners, because you know, I shared some drafts with you
and such, so that the early drafts of this book are were very different
from the end, and they were full of examples, and it was like,
and look at this, and this, these politicians did this, and
you know, there was this historical event and this. If you look at
this, then that means that they must have been lying. So maybe they
were lying about this, and you know, and and I just took all
of that out. I tried to put myself in the shoes of someone who
doesn't want to believe that, because I think there's two types of ways to
go about surviving this mess we're in. And the first is to think,
like I want to believe that there's a conspiracy, because then I know the
truth with a capital T, and that's comforting, you know, at least
you know your enemy, right. And then there's the other way to go
about it, which is this can't be true. I mean, I my
neighbors, and you know, there are people around me, and they're good
people. How could this be true? You know? So, and both
are valid, I mean, and I think that that there's there is truth
to both of those perspectives, and airing on one side or the other in
an extreme way is as a folly, so you know. But on the
other hand, you know, the example I gave of marketers peddling cancer causing
substance as kids. You know, it's indisputable, right. So the fact
is there are very real dangers and they're hard to swallow. And that's really
where I was trying to come about this book, is that this is something
that we can relate to each other, you know, while at the same
time you know acknowledging that, well, we can't really relate to them,
right, the marketers like they're the other big other in the room, in
the unknown, and yet a lot of people are in marketing, right,
so and I'm not trying dis varage. I mean, there's a Bill Hicks
thing on marketing, like I highly recommend people look that up. But there's
you know that that notwithstanding, you know, I think that's the elephant in
the room, right. It's it's not so much that I'm trying to uncover
anything in in the first chapter at least or in the whole book really,
except for one thing, which is that you know, it's it's the elephant
in the room, right. That's that's part of what I think I'm trying
to accomplish in this first chapter is that it's hidden. It's hidden in plain
sight. What it is I think I get into later in the book,
and I don't think it's people can Like I said, people can come at
it in different ways, and I kind of want to have that wide funnel
where I win people over and win their trust because that's important. I don't
alienate people. So that's where I tried to not make this about exposing one
particular conspiracy or something else. So that's that's wise. I appreciate the push
and the poll and it's it's happening constantly in the book, it's like,
well, yeah, you start going pretty far, but then you pull back.
You're like, okay, like let's stay within reason or whatever. You
know. There's definitely that happening as you're speaking in the book, and I
really enjoy that. And I'm gonna actually wheel back around to Kirk Schilling.
Have you seen him lately? Have you seen any of his like, because
he's posting videos and stuff and he's very much gone into like the qann sort
of realm. Have you seen this? I had? I had no idea.
Wow, yeah, yeah, very interesting. Yeah, I tried.
So I looked him up as of a few years ago, and he was
kind of a cancer person that was like advocate kating for you know, awareness
for you know, drugs and you know, tobacco and things like that.
So I mean that's where I last. I don't have social media, I
don't have anything, so I didn't. That definitely adds an interesting twist,
Yeah, isn't it. I thought that. I find there's a lot of
synchronicities happening when I read this book, and that was one of them that
popped up to me, and I was just curious. I'm like, does
Sam know what Kurt Schilling has been up to like the past year or so
because he's he's into that, Like there's you can find clips of them talking
about that stuff online. Now it's it's it's really something interesting. Yeah,
No, I had no idea. In fact, I'll just go off on
a tangent. I can't help myself. Like the entire like nineteen nineties phillies
I used to watch on TV, like a lot of them have ended up
like going into the right wing alternative media ecosystem in one way or another.
I know Dikest was on Alex Jones like a long time ago. I want
to say it was like a decade ago. Him and Alex really hit it
off. Their buddy buddy on the air. Shilling is doing this now.
I know Darren Dalton years ago got into like UFOs and stuff, but that
was even before Dikester went on Alex Jones. But I just always found it
fascinating to see like all those guys I used to watch in the team like
they kind of went they went into these areas. I was like, huh,
that's something. And you know, if I'm being honest, I've kind
of gone into those areas a little bit myself, I'm like, what's what's
in the water, and back in Pennsylvania's like something going on or I don't
know, it's just again. I mean, I think I think to your
point, though, Aaron, I mean, I think a lot of people
have at least dipped their toe into the alternative. And you know, part
of my point of this first chapter is that do you blame people for looking?
I mean, I think there's a lot of responsibility foisted on us,
you know, to get it right, and that's fair because there's consequences and
I you know, I understand that, and I do take responsibility for that.
But on the other hand, I mean, we're we're really stripped of
agency in a lot of ways because there's so much information being withheld, so
you know, we're blind blindly grasping in the dark, you know, half
the time, and so you know, I tried to kind of capture that
feeling of powerlessness, and that's more, you know, I think we're kind
of moving on now into the chapter two where you know, like for me,
I've viewed it through the lens of coming back from Iraq, and you
know, in Iraq I saw, you know, this was at the height
of the surge and you know, Petraeus had just come out with the surge
and all of this, and you know, this was the elections in Iraq
and democracy is coming and this is what we're seeing on CNN. And then
I was there and it's like just whole neighborhoods just with bullet holes through all
the houses and you know, people living in fear, and you know,
armed mercenaries everywhere from all over the world. You know, it wasn't what
it seemed to be on the on the TV at all. And what was
really weird would be watching CNN in Iraq and you know, you're coming back
from patrol and you're like, oh, wow, okay, I guess the
war is going well. So but then when I came back home, it
was I think I can have empathy or compassion for you know, people that
are trying to figure it out, and yeah, they're probably getting it wrong.
And I'm not I'm not I'm not dismissing the consequences of getting it wrong.
But at the same time, I mean, what at the very beginning
of this conversation, I said, you know, it's comforting to believe that
you have truth with a capital T, and you know, comfort is necessary
to exist and survive, and if it's a false comfort but it's kind of
you know, being given to somebody as real, then that's you know,
then they're being manipulated, and you know they're they're a victim in that.
You know. Now, yeah, we're all full grown adults, but there's
something to be said about that. Ultimately, people are being victimized because information
is being withheld, like people, you know, Alex Jones is an obvious
example or someone now, and you know, I don't I try not to
talk about specific people too much because I don't want to get sued, but
you know, but you know, there's plenty of examples of people that are
like you know, it has been revealed that they are not who they claimed
they were, sure right, sure, and so with that so rampant,
I think it's what it's hard to know, it's hard to how do you
make sense of things when somebody is just coming at you so adamant about something
you came to realize like, well, they were just saying that, and
you don't even have all the answers for that, like, well, we
know we were just saying that, but we still don't even know all the
reasons. We just know that basically they're b essing. We can tell that
much, but beyond that, you can't tell further than that. Yeah,
you and you can tell that they're b essing, but you know that.
I'll just say, you know, there are some people that are really good
actors. Yeah, sure, well I know. I'm I'm also I'm fascinated
by the specifically you and your fellow veterans of the Iraq wars and the other
wars in the Middle East. I mean, you could apply the same sort
of dichotomy or saying earlier of well how do you interpret reality to just kind
of say what you kind of like say, well, I choose to believe,
I'm not I'm not looking at all those things. I'm not going to
assume that it's such a dark world because it's comforting and you kind of just
willfully don't or do you kind of look at questionable actions and start digging and
looking for the truth. And generally those are the two ways to go.
And certainly that's I've knowing other veterans I know they've done like yourself, specifically
because of their service, the things they saw not jiving with you know,
the official propaganda lines that caused them to go okay, well what's going on
here? And and honestly, fact ocs of these right wing I don't even
know what the extreme right wing factions that have splintered off from conspiracy culture.
I suppose we'll call him like which can be exemplified in qan On and certainly
start Roads and his buddies of the oath Keepers. He specifically caters to veterans.
He's like, oh, hey, yeah, you saw horrible things over
there here. Let me explain to you what is going on. And so
a lot of them are now being victimized by guys like him, you know,
yeah, absolutely, and I can I don't. I don't want to
get into too much detail about that for me, but I'll just say that
I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, you know.
And unfortunately that was a stumbling block on my own path. And there's some
things that I look back and I, you know, I kind of grimaced
and myself like, oh God, why I was such a fool, you
know, And it's hard not to feel like a fool. That's one of
the things that I draw on though, when I have a desire to connect
to others because you know, I mean, I've been made a fool of
so many times in my life that you know, come at me, tell
me your story. You know, I will not judge you, my friend,
because it's likely that I've been there. And if I haven't been there,
you know, I'm I've been to to you know, some low enough
places that I that I certainly can relate, you know, even if I
can't directly relate, I can certainly not judge, you know. So that's
a blessing for me, I feel. And it took me a long time
not to feel shame about making mistakes, you know, like and like you
said, yeah, there is those two paths. You put your head in
the sand or you try and get it. And I mean, but well,
I think I think you were I think you're kind of pointing to the
fact earlier that this is kind of like the obvious outcome of this world that
we've been given is and especially with this American mindset that we're we've been sold
with, is it's all about the individual. Right, So you are supposedly
empowered to go out there and make yourself, like, go of build your
own life for yourself, and that includes interpreting the world as you see fit
because you're an American and you are going to be able to you can think
and be as free as you want in your thoughts. And we've done,
we've been given that to such a degree. But that there's this atomization and
and nobody can and nobody can find the truth on their own. It's it's
not happening, and even together, I don't think that's happening either, But
just trying, like the enormity of what we're faced with and the thought of
like the individual person going out there and facing that is just like what do
you expect is going to happen? You know that this happens to every This
is our kind of collective experience. Yeah, I agree, And it's so
you know, in a nutshell, it's you know, we're being lied to,
manipulated, you know, undue influence, nudged, you know, the
lots of ways that people like to describe it. But this is happening.
We're being subjected to this every day, all the time by billion dollar vested
interests that have the latest technology at their disposal, and we don't stand a
chance, you know. So, and so you know, the choice what
we do have is the choice the agency to to to one acknowledge right,
like, this is the case. And that's kind of like if in a
nutshell, what's my goal at least for the first part of this book,
that's that's my goal is is let's let's acknowledge that this is the case.
And I was able to do that only after I got over my shame around
making mistakes and looking foolish. And I, like, I said, I've
done that a lot, and I believe that if I cared, then I
would, you know, make myself look foolish. So a good way to
not look foolish just to not care. And that's a mistake too, because
if someone's punching your face, you in the face, and you're like,
I don't care, like you're still a fool because you're just getting punched in
the face, you know, So you know, you have to care because
it's affecting you, it's affecting us all. You don't have to, but
you know, not caring is kind of is a is a not a it's
it's not the it's not the right way to go. It's not a good
strategy. So we have to care, you know. And I think it's
a good thing to care. I think we all should. But then you
know, well, all right, so what do we do? And that's
the big question. And so the first step, right, And I mean
in my book, I you know, I get into you know, my
my philosophy too there. But like the first step is admitted, admit,
admit the admit what the problem is. And the problem is we don't stand
a chance against this massive, you know, propaganda machine. And and so,
no, we have free will, but we don't really have free will
in the way that the American dream presents itself to us, because we are
susceptible to these forces around us that that govern our in some cases, you
know, our very identities and how we see ourselves, how we believe our
stories are. So it's powerful. But at the same time, I find
it's very liberating, right, and I I try to manifest that liberation in
the chapter on the desert. And you know, when when I'm out in
the desert, I feel again, I wanted to make this about how I
feel, not about because this is this is they can't touch you here,
right, Like this is part of what I'm trying to say at the end,
is they can't they can't touch you inside in your heart because that's inside
of you. We all own that right, and that's where free will is.
But it's from it's it's trickier than just, you know, belief,
because belief, I mean they can, they can. Those things are more
malleable. But what isn't malleable is our And it's not just like a purely
emotional thing either, But it's like this gut instinct you should always listen,
man. And I'm trying to I'm trying to explain it. I'm kind of
having a little bit of difficulty. It's well, it's these are all difficult
things to articulate. And I think that's where the book actually does well,
is that it doesn't it's not always trying to articulate the details. It's taking
you on this journey because the book is set up as a journey, as
you're saying, from east to west. So that's what's happening. You're the
list or the reader is along for that ride and following you. And I
think it's an interesting format because if you're thinking about like a road trip or
trip across the United States, that would afford you this sort of stream of
consciousness it's it's going to be the natural outcome of doing that, is,
especially if you're by yourself and taking this trip, You're gonna have a lot
of things going through your head and you might find that, you know,
you're you're coming across some interesting sites along the way, and maybe you're maybe
you're even having epiphanies just based on taking this trip, right, I mean
that was Yeah. So it's like, I'm I'm stopping at the diner,
right, and how many scenes in American movies you pull up to the diner,
right, and then there's the strange the waitress that's like, you know,
says something and you're like, huh, you know, and that's the
introduction to David Lynch movie. Right. But then but then you start thinking
about David Lynch, you know, and you're like interesting, you know.
But but that's where I mean, and David Lynch actually plays with this very
thing a lot, you know, the merging of metaphor and reality. Right.
Yeah, So I think it's just it's no, I'm sorry, can
continue, I'll return it later, keep going, I'm sorry. No,
Yeah, I mean I was just gonna say, like I wanted it to
be experiential where you're in the diner, you're this is America, right,
not the abstractions, it's the people, it's the places. Right. So
you're driving through it, you have an interaction, you feel something, and
then you understand how that feels, and that's what's real. So that's the
that's my baseline for what is the real America? What are who are we?
What are we doing? You know, that feeling of and it's not
just a feeling, it's it's understanding that feeling is what's real. So anyway,
go ahead, I want to hear now. I mean, I I
started thinking about Lynch actually, and and recently I was thinking about David Lynch,
you know, while I had time to think to myself and and and
realizing that I think I like the films of David Lynch. I know that's
a hot bun thing. Whether you like it you hate it. I think
that. I mean, there, he's an incredible filmmaker. Yeah. I
love the films, I really do. And and I was just thinking about
it. I think one of the things I really enjoy about them is the
dialogue in them is really ridiculous. It seems ridiculous and it's hilarious. And
the things he has the characters say just seems so like when you're watching the
film, you go, this, this is not realistic. This is like
some sort of weird, like cartoony David Lynch dream. But then I was
thinking about it and in my head a lot of times, I'll I will
remember specific quotes from people that I've seen in my life, and I revisit
these quotes over and over and I'll actually say the things that they said because
it was just so hilarious and bizarre, and I was like, you know
what, like what that person, this thing that this memory that I can't
shake, or just somebody's saying something ridiculous is exactly like one of those lines
from a David Lynch film. So that's not necessarily like unrealistic. That's sort
of style a dialogue, if anything. Like I wish that there was more
of that, you know, in regular conversation, but where there is,
it's like so interesting that it makes you remember it, and I don't know,
I'm just thinking about that right. Well, I would say that that's
valuable. It's very valuable because that's you're connecting with somebody. They're they're putting
themselves out there as they are you know, or maybe not, maybe maybe
maybe inadvertently, maybe they're trying to be someone they're not. But but somehow
they expose something real and you remember that. And that's valuable because it's one,
I mean, I think those kind of moments are very beautiful and meaningful.
And two, it's like a mirror, right like you look at it
and you see a part of yourself that you couldn't see before. Potentially yes,
yeah, and and and it's it's it's you're doing that in such a
bizarre, abstract way. The thing being said in these instances, these quotes
out of my head, aren't they seem like utter nonsense. They seem like
they make no sense if you were to listen to it. But then somehow,
and like a lot of times, they'll have like a synchronistic quality,
the sorts of things like I've heard people say things that I guarantee you they
had no idea what they were saying, but like you could you could interpret
it from like an esoteric standpoint where like like deep occult sort of meaning is
being conveyed. And yet I'm guarantee you the person saying them these things was
not thinking of it that way. You know, I mean, but but
the thing that they said is like really crazy and profound in a sense,
and there is this like synchronicity that's kind of bouncing around and and that you
play with that concept of like at that one scene in the bar, there's
like three things on the TV and they're all kind of like saying the same
thing at the same time. That's I thought that was pretty cool. That's
that's kind of like you wrote into the book sort of similar sort of concepts
like oh, look at I'm looking around and things are lining up in a
bizarre sort of way. I don't know what's going on here. And that
really happened because there was at the gym I used to go to, they
would have Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC on three big screens, like
right in front of the treadmills, and it was fascinating because it would literally
be like the same headlines at the same time. I mean, I mean
to the point where you could tell that they were talking to each other about
the programming, like it would be the same exact topic, but one would
be like, you know, extremely abrasive in one way, the other would
be abrasive in the other. So it's just fascinating, you know, to
watch, Like, I highly recommend people try that because I'm telling you it's
like you will quickly see that they collude in the storytelling. You just watch
it for like twenty minutes. Yeah, there's clearly a list of like approved
stories. Right, this is what we're all going to talk about today.
And now you go ahead and you do your particular interpretation, you put your
branding onto it, and that's basically what it is, right, and it
lines up perfectly with that, uh that that that dichotomy that we just talked
about earlier where it's like caring and not caring because like Fox, it'll be
like those liberals, isn't this a joke? You know? And then and
then the MSNBC will be like, you know, we care so much,
but we're ignoring all of this other stuff, you know, and it's like,
you know, it's that exact dichotomy of this, you know, you
put your head in the sand or you think you have the truth with the
capital T and they trade off with each other, so it's not like one
side is like one thing and the other is is the opposite. Like beltic
turns. One person will say, oh, this is the truth with the
capital T. And then the other side will be like, oh this those
rask was like you know, and then they'll switch you know. So it's
it's very interesting, and it's like a dance, an orchestrated dance on us,
you know, playing out in our own minds, you know. So
and and I will say this, I mean, I will say that I've
done a lot of rabbit holing and meta research. I mean, I'm I
I think that, I mean, I don't, I don't. My personal
takeaway is that you know a lot of people are you know, same same
as what you've said, where like there's a lot of Charlottean's man, and
I mean you'd be surprised, you know how how many. And again,
like I won't name names, but like you you've had the courage to kind
of call out some people and I really appreciate that. And I feel similar
early there are people that I'm like, oh, this guy is like totally
legit and coming from the heart, and then they're not. You know,
there's someone backing them, or there's some agenda. And you know, people
have agendas and that's fine, but there's some it's a deceptive agenda where they're
not. They're presenting themselves as someone that they're not. Yes, and that's
hurtful, you know, and that's not you know, that's not okay.
You're trying to victimize me when you do that. And that's part of the
book too, is like, look like, I don't don't expect that I'm
going to take this sitting down man, like you're trying to victimize me.
Okay, will not stay it, man, Yeah, the dude does not
apply. Oh man, there's a California quote there for you from a fiction,
no less, but it's a pretty California none the less. Actually,
I had a question. I wanted to ask you this use this term the
community, and I found that interesting because I don't recall hearing that term being
used. Just explain what that term is, where you got it from.
Is it a term that's that's that's in use. I just never heard of,
Like, oh, what is the community? Yeah? So, I
mean I kind of took a little bit of artistic liberty. But the the
ic right when the intelligence community right? And so I'm playing on this idea
that the intelligence community calls itself a community, and you know what they mean
is the agencies that make up the intelligence apparatus of you know, the United
States and five Eyes, and you know, it's an international intelligence community and
it's called the community because it's not one governance. You know, there's multiple
countries, multiple organizations, and so you know, I you know, I
basically started calling it the community just as kind of a tongue in cheek where
I'm like calling out the fact that it's literally called the intelligence community. And
so I'm just taking off that first bit and kind of expanding it a little
bit to include just general you know, military contractors and that group of people
that you know kind of everybody knows is there and you know, and and
again like I don't I hope my intention is not to denigrate people involved in
that, and I think that's touchy too, But I mean I'm not one
of those people that is like because that's because that would be me with the
truth, with the capital T, saying that I know, you know all
of this, and you know, there are people that that work really hard
to try and keep people safe, and you know, I appreciate that,
you know, and I'm not gonna take that away from anybody. Sure,
So yeah, I mean I want to make that part well well understood,
you know. At the same time, Yeah, I mean there's as as
you know, I do talk about a little bit in the book, like
there's a whole lot that is still not reconcilable about things that have happened.
And you know, I'm not gonna get into it because there are many other
books about that, just one. I really like Jefferson Morley's book on James
Jesus Singleton. I've mentioned that one before, and he's been a guest on
Chuck's show, and you know, I'd say it takes a lifetime to understand
the nuances there. You could honestly just watch the movie Three Days of the
Condor and you'll really get all you need to know. I don't know if
you've seen that movie, but I haven't known it. It's great. It's
such a great movie. And uh yeah, I mean it's it's from the
seventies and it came out during the Church Committee and it's you know, it's
it's it's uh I guess, you know, just just check it out,
you know, anyone who's interested. But that was my kind of idea that
this is a community of people, and it really is, and I mean
I I know that. I mean, it's it's so that I just wanted
to kind of have a shorthand way to refer to this. If there's anyone
that's in the know, it's that right, Well they should be by definition,
right, We all kind of hope they are, because if they're not,
then where then no one is and we're steering off a cliff right,
Yes, yes, yeah, we're in trouble if yeah, that's the yea,
yeah, it's yes. Just the use of the term community is as
you're saying, it's definitely used. I've I've seen intelligence community floated a lot
and buy those who are within it. If you go out there, there's
podcasts with people from that community that label themselves as such, and those are
fascinating to give them a lesson. I think it's always very valuable to go
direct to the source when you're looking up something like okay, if you have
an interest in intelligence, when you go find a podcast where people going,
oh, hi, we're we're all here to talk about such and such a
topic, and we're all from the intelligence community. Here's so and so,
here's so and so, and here's me. I've been in it for forty
years now and give that a lesson. See take what you will from that.
If you're interested in such societies, go find one of their podcasts,
because they're out there too. There's all sort of interesting stuff. Yeah,
no, I agree, Yeah, I guess I would say I've been I've
been misled from from that angle as well. I think it's a good place
to go. But ultimately, you know, don't don't take anything as gospel,
would be my advice. Well, yeah, sure, sure, that's
well, I mean, and that the trick with all this is, like
you you know that when they're saying something publicly, first of all, there's
a bunch of stuff that's classified that they can't even put on the table at
all, so their hands are tied. When they're discussing a lot of stuff,
you're not going to get the full picture. So that's just on the
face of it. And then you got to go, well, might they
be placing misinformation into public uh pronouncements to serve the ends of their operation?
Is this in operation? And asking those questions is just being savvy, right,
And we don't have to have hard and fast answers toying these questions,
but to ask them, I think is a lost when you're dealing with this
stuff, and ye too, yeah, I mean, ultimately too. One
thing I've I've kind of come to understand is it's the big other, it's
the big Day. And that's why I kind of tongue in cheek made it
as the community because this is a nameless entity that is not attributable, right,
And wouldn't they want it that way? Yeah? Right, sure,
lack of attribution because it's like, well, we didn't do this. This
was a private citizen, you know, And that's that's kind of where the
rabbit hole ends, right because this is now someone's privacy, right and things
like that, So, you know, and I think that's and that's kind
of part of it. So for me, that chapter was less about you
know, critique or criticizing anything as much as it was just about driving people
to the conclusion or hope that people will come to the conclusion on their own
that we're up against this. We're in the fun house of mirrors. You
know, we're not going to be able to navigate this by ourselves and come
out the other side, you know, with our head on straight. Because
you know, actually, one of the things that I thought about a lot
after our last podcast. You uh you you told me, you know,
how'd you come out the other side, you know, And I was like,
well, you know, work in progress. But I think about that
sometimes I'm like, well, I kind of I didn't really, I don't
think yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think this book,
I think this book, you know, is about as close as I've I've
come yet. I think, you know, there's there's more to come,
you know. I'm already thinking about tweaks to the last chapter, you know,
or something, or maybe an afterword or something. And I'm already working
on another book too. Oh that's good. Yeah, that's that's why I
would honestly have suggested, like you just maybe leave this as it is and
then keep moving and make another book that's either similar to this or go wherever
you know you feel you have to and pick it up from there. Yeah.
Because this, Yeah, no, I really enjoy this as it is.
This book, I think it definitely works. And yeah, it's just
again, just a very easy read that elicits a lot. It really brings
a lot up. It makes you ask a lot of questions, it makes
you reflect on a lot of different things, and also it does the good
job of not giving you too many hard and fast answers on things, which
I think is the point that you're trying to make. Maybe. Yeah,
I mean, I think there's some things that are true, and I drive
towards those at the end, and I won't really give those things away,
but you know, because I want people to buy the book, you know,
and and I want people to reach out to me and talk to me
about this, so you know, I encourage people. It's not about money
or and you know, for me, I mean, it's it's about connections.
So you know, I would really like for people to pick up a
copy and you know, reach out to me and and and start a conversation
if you have thoughts. Uh, yeah, I mean I have. I
know, we're like almost at a time here, I have, like,
uh, something I wanted to kind of yeah, you know, you had
any other questions, Let's let's dive in. And before that, let's just
first of all, I'll say that I put the link to this on my
bookshop dot org affiliate. Thank so, if you go to bookshop dot org,
you'll find it at the top of my little Books by Guesses at the
top of that now, so you can find it there. I was gonna
ask, do you have your own website for this book? I know there's
one for Dancing with My Fate? Do you have a website for this book?
Or or not yet? Or no? No I don't And you know,
just laziness on my part. So that's okay. Yeah, you know,
I mean, look, man, like people, very few people,
you know, buy books like this, and it's a shame. And I
you know, I hope that more people will buy this book. It takes
a lot of work. And I know you can relate to this parent because
I know you put a lot of work into the podcast. And I'll tell
you, you know, your podcast has really been meaningful to me, and
so I appreciate it. I think, you know, every ounce of sweat
that you put into this thing has been worth it if you ask me for
what it's worth. And uh. And so that's why I'm doing this is
to you know, hopefully a couple of people, and I know people have
reached out, like there have been people that have told me that like you,
and and there's been some other people too, that this that my book
has really meant a lot to them, and that that is worth that is
very valuable. To me, you know, very valuable. So yeah,
pick up a copy and uh, you know it's it's it's short, so
you know most of you'll lose is you know, a couple hours, and
I know for some people that's a lot. So if it's going to stress
you out, don't worry about it. You know, really, I don't.
I don't want you to be stressed. But yeah, I mean,
if you have the time inclination, I'd love to to dive in. Cool.
Now, you said that you'd like people to get a hold of you.
What's the best way that they can contact you? So if people go
to the Dancing with My Fate website, there's a email address on that website,
go ahead and email me there. That's that's the best way to get
a hold of me. Okay, that's Dancing with my Fate dot com?
Is it? Yeah, Dancing with my Faith dot com? Yeah, okay,
okay, so there's that website. Yeah, I definitely I recommend the
book everybody. It's an enjoyable read, like thoroughly thoroughly enjoyable, and yeah,
there's a lot to take from it. So yeah, American Values by
Sam i'd let was there was there something else? You want to mention here,
Sam before we shift gears so to speak. Yeah, yeah, just
one thing, you know, the the point if I had to distill it
in those two sentences, you know, I think we want to just you
know, put this out there. You know, we don't life. Life
is more beautiful and more meaningful when we confront and explode our symbols that aren't
living our heads and they restrict us. And you know, we we don't
have to have illusions like money, sex objects, status, some kind of
identity that we believe is ours that has been given to us. We don't
have to be illusions. We don't have to be the identity. We don't
have to be a sex object, we don't have to be a rich person.
These things are illusions. And that's what my trip has thought me.
And now you all know that it wasn't a real trip, but maybe it
was, so don't stop believing nice. That's what I'll leave you with,
Okay. I always like leaving it with the song lyric that's guild in my
book. And I have to ask you, Sam, do you want to
stick around for the Uncle's show in the next hour? Do you have to
get going? I am gonna drop off. I do want you to tell
Uncle I said, Hi, I gotta early wake up in the morning.
I hear you. So all right, well it was great. It was
I will tell Uncle high absolutely and it was great to have you here.
And you're always welcome back, man, even if you just want to call
in, you're welcome. Do you do that. But we'll have you back
as a guest again. Man, it's always great to talk to you.
Thanks Aaron, Yeah, thank thanks a lot for having me on. It's
a lot of fun. And uh yeah, I hope to do it again
sometime. And Chuck, I know I'll be on Chuck's show I think sometime
soon, so hopefully listeners will be able to catch that as well. So
cool, all right, yeah, yeah, take care of Sam. All
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That's whool him out, all right, So right now I know this Uncle
weird night. We've got one listener in Australia and everybody else is in America
tonight. Every they had all last week, so they don't want to listen
tonight. I guess we were. We were all over the world. He
scared off the international listener international and listeners exactly what he said. We did
a fine job of that. I call. Yeah, I don't know who
you had guess take my guess away? Well yeah, yeah, yeah.
In the previous hour, I had a guest I know, took him,
took my guess away from the people. Other people the KKK took your guest
away. Yeah, that's wasn't it wasn't me. Yeah, yeah, maybe
it was uncle screaming hanging people last week. You know, we would have
been that or I don't know what it was. There are a couple of
things that might have scared a couple of people off, but we don't worry
about that uncle. We just let it all hang out. Have you listened
to my shows out? Check check? I put some more out for you.
Did listen? Oh what on Instagram and stuff? Yeah? I haven't
been over to Instagram this week at all. I was trying to catch up
to everything, and finally I'm almost caught up. So well, look and
listen to that because I put one on Today, two on Today, two
two on Today and Instagram. Uncle's talking about his videos that we've been posting.
We were posting they've been going quite well. Yeah, So I was
shocked at the one at the at the soccer because I didn't really think it
would go and boom loaded. You was on that lots of views you listen
to. So I was shocked to hear that because I was meant to say
something, but I didn't mean to say it. Okay, I was recommending
people go check out that trip out to the oil you can Eat shrimp joint
because I wanted to want to see that one. Well, that one I
should didn't that should they went over it should have sat. That's the video
that I put the most work and honestly, UH love unto. And it's
gotten far less views on the view counter than these other short videos that we
just make win basically less, far less. That's that's for you. That's
very surplus. So more people more, more, more people are watching shrimp,
people go crazy for shrimp. Would have thought it was this place.
Well, people went more for your tuna fish than they went for the big
Jay Sanders and that wait, does that his name? Jay Sanders. Ye,
Carold Sanders Gerald Sanders, right, they went they went crazy for your
tuna fish and God help us all sour crowd and uh, you know,
I just got to get into it, Chuck. I I like sour crowd
two on a hot dog on a sausage, you know, but fish,
Yeah, I ain't had one come on. And picking up from that,
I put video. One of the videos we shot and put it today was
uncle making a cheese thing. The title of video is called Cheese the Cheese
and he's just making a cheese lunch in the microwave and I so we posted
it to Instagram. I reposted it to YouTube. It's already nearly at two
thousand views on YouTube, which is good. People. I'm telling you that.
I'm telling you something. They go crazy on just my means like me
people on Instaguium and then where he poses, it's just absolutely go dang crazy.
It's not unlike the Food Network, Uncle, Yeah no, we're basically
doing the same thing. Yeah, well, well the NetWorld we pull the
network, then net without of the doll waters sorry mine with mine because see
how many poor people done. I'm listening. Move over. Gordon Ramsey's talking
that's right, all of you, all your celebrity chefs. You don't stand
a chance because we've got a whole new take on how to make a meal,
and people are really listening to it. They sure are. Yeah,
it's exciting, So it's yeah, it's interesting. It's somewhat discouraging to see
the videos you wish would do good not However, I will say I will
say this because we're making this content and we're experimenting. I keep kind of
dancing around this every time we talk about this, but we're kind of like
playing around uncle. We're putting stuff out there, and foods, well,
yeah, I guess you are with your food. You're kind of playing with
your food, aren't you. Well, some of them sometimes someone away out
of making the mixture of how to make it. Yeah, that's how I'm
doing it. How are the gamers streams doing? Though? When you guys
play games those, uh, that is less because I've been asking him.
I wanted to play a couple of them, but we just haven't. They're
not himself to move along here, Well, exactly, Chuck, You're you're
getting at this and that the streams we did to those didn't got limited engagement
I really enjoyed them, and people showed up live that regular listeners and that
was a lot of fun, like getting my jet. But my general take
on this is like, I really like a bunch of the stuff that we
have already done. The gaming streams good, the videos like the Gerald Sanders
videos very good. And again you could lump the merchandise into this. I
think it's good. But what I want to do is keep making more of
the things that appear to be getting the attention and have ability to be like
those breakthrough moments. And I'm I'm thinking which in a way, yeah,
it's these short videos, which is videos of my food. That's what's doing
it. Look, it's kind of annoying because we're not putting much work into
it, but it's also kind of good because we can make them so easy
and keep making them. Maybe one of them will catch fires so much that
it will become something. It's like your five minute cooking show is the thing
that's working. I don't think. I don't understand. Isn't it weird?
It's it doesn't really easy to say. I mean, even though you don't
like, I understanding, but but people go absolute and I mean, this
is crazy, and I'll say Hello Creative Accidents. He's in the Twitch chat
room. He's also at the Ocelli dot com chat room. Hello Creative Accidents
and everybody else listening, glad to have you here. And it's we've done
a great job with everything we've done thus far, and we have a dedicated
audience. The audience at Chelly dot com is the best. But I also
believe that there's a way to expand this and I'm trying. I'm really trying
to put effort. And the reassuring thing here is that perhaps with the least
effort you can get the most returns. And that's the positive I'm taking from
these bizarre videos we've been posting. It hasn't exactly happened yet. We've been
getting a lot of views for what that's worth, but it's it's fun and
it could work, and I think it's good material. So well what you're
saying. Then, with that in mind, I'm going to find and I'd
like to return to the gaming streams. Perhaps we'll build up an audience by
getting attention somehow, and then we can turn to the things we really like
doing and the people will be there. I don't know, and this might
be all a pipe dream as well. I'm just all front. Hold on,
we got a call on the wing. It's the first thing on the
call. And I bet you're Jimmy. All right, jim come on in,
all right, you gott What did I tell you? What did I
tell you? By the way, I want to talk a little bit about
the what is that training camp? And the training camp? You should be
proud of your team right now there, Jimmy, Detroit, Detroit Lions.
They got some I don't want to junx myself, but everything looks good.
I mean we should have an outstanding season. Yeah, that's just a saying
that it should it should be that, right, Yeah, definitely, Yeah.
I think I know how they're doing it now though. The people on
that I'm just a moment chuck. The people on that and doing it this
way. They're putting it day by day, on each game, on each
players. So they'll show one for one week, couple of teams and then
off and in another week another uh three days. So that's how they're working
it. I'm seeing how they're working it. The training camp things. That's
how it moves. So have you noticed that? Have you noticed that?
Yeah? That's how it's worth it. I get realized that the heck coach
said that. It's I know what he's up to me. I don't know
what he thinks. He's pretty good, head coach. That quarterback we got
from you was a good deal in the long run, in the long one,
That's what we've been trying to tell me. He will work on the
long one, not the shoot one. In the long one, and and
in time, come time come, he will pick it up. He's probably
already got some nice uh places how to play and and and game thinkings.
But but in the long one, JAF, he's doing Philly will Yeah,
yeah, yeah, we've said before. I know. I want to see
him too good. I bet j I think he's going to hope he does
it. Definitely has the ability to. So it's just you know, being
in the right place, doing the right things. We'll see that. I'm
interested to see how the Rams do this year, because I don't even know
how to predict it at this I don't know what they're up here on us.
The point I just said, telling him day by day they show a
couple of training camps. Yeah we haven't seen them. No, I haven't
seen I amn't even seen the Dolphins training camp. Guys see all of them
or thirty two teams. I'm just saying, and we haven't seen half of
them so the time in this whole this coming week, we'll probably see three
and in another set of three. It's three times three six going down.
Is how they operate the show on they on the on the neck food.
Yeah, you're talking about the televis telling the televised televised training televising. Yeah,
that's what I'm talking about. We shall see that. I guess we
might learn. That's how we do the pub We see it, how how
it looks. I'm just realizing that today. I just found out out today.
Can't wait to see that one. And then they show the faces of
what training camps are gonna be, the quarterback, the receiver, and the
line packer. They show what camp. That's how they show it. Oh
okay, that's their format. That's it format. Yeah, see, I
know how they do it. Have you seen any televised training camps, Jimmy,
even I haven't seen it. Yeah, we catch a couple because they
do what sometimes they do them that far from here, like fifty miles from
where I'm at so like the local news will show it live local. You're
a local team, so you'll be a local person to see that. It's
gold like us seen it in I haven't seen, but we haven't seen it
because they haven't cooked. Yeah, and you haven't seen the rams on the
local news, and I haven't seen any of them yet, but they're coming.
I'm sure they come. It'll be there, it'll beat it. And
then of course we'll have the preseason games. Those will be interesting to see
the new talents. October August, I mean August, like a couple of
weeks or not even like a week or not even that's not even this week.
This coming week they'll start playing the preseasons. Exciting, that's what's gonna
happen. Bring it on. So so, yeah, the football is coming
back, and as such, we will be talking about it here. They're
on the broadcast on This is a sports show sometimes sometimes a spot show,
sometimes whatever I make it. Sometimes it's about food, sometimes it's about sports,
you know. So it's that's what they call the comedy show. It's
always comedy, and it's always comedy, so uh, you can throw I
throw that all into it. So whatever I'm throwing into my broadcast. That's
what it's going to be. It's a mix. Yeah, that's the world.
It's a mixture. It's an interesting mix. So yeah, we like
to be a colectic here. I make a little bit of everything. We're
just trying to break through, Uncle, We're trying to break through on the
online media scene. We're trying to be visible. We're trying to get engagement.
We're trying to get views, we're trying to get likes. We're trying
to get people that understand. Actually my podcast, it's what we're trying to
do. That's the that's the main thing. What do you laugh at?
So I kick well, I'm trying to talk and really happen over here,
even laughing in the podcasting. If we find somebody who's truly if somebody truly
understands this show, yeah they deserve I don't know what, but some kind
of prize is some kind if you understand the show, Chuck, what do
we got anything in as we can do something? What do you want prizes?
What can we kick out? What can we kick out? I don't
know, because you guys ain't making anything. You're not making nothing. You're
talking about you're talking about the birch stuff. You're upset that we don't have
new bird. I'm trying to talk to this man here, so I kick
here. You don't got nothing? What we have? Uncle? The podcast
t shirts? Well, that's it, but that's I'm We're gonna have more.
I gotta give something to Chuck. Chuck is pushing. He's doing more
than you. Maybe, yes, maybe, okay, pushing it out,
Okay, definitely like hey, Mike, hey, nice looking T shirt,
like a nice looking some other stuff whatever it was, hats, hats and
other things. But what are you doing? I don't know what? And
I'm still you owing about them? Drop classes. No, not here yet.
We've got some hey, go in, I'm talking line around it.
We've got some engagement in the chat here. We've got challie doll x thirteen
X. Where's Samus Davis? She's asking? And then also he wants Uncle
the podcast pop sockets? What the heck are those? That's a product you
suggested, Uncle. I don't know. I don't remember. You don't even
know what a pop socket is? Dad? What do you know? Chat?
You know? Anybo? No? I don't. I don't know what
a pop socket is no, I don't. Well, whatever it is,
I'm working on it, and it's coming on it. What do you look,
It's in the pipeline. We got good things going on, right bigy.
I hear it, but I don't see it. On the lunch we
have shows the likes of which have never been seen before. I know nothing.
I know I know for a chuck though, it is going to have
me a T shirt one day it comes. I know it. I know
he's gonna come out with a shirt for you. What I got. I
got a shirt coming for you. I got I gotta wait for it to
show up. I told you, that's what. But with this man,
I don't see that. Nothing. Just just to wake with T shirts.
Well, Sally Dolls saying that she made pop sockets up, so so we
got that on. Oh she apparently it's a made up term on the fly.
But that doesn't mean we can't make him as my attitude, I'm I
gotta can do attitude. Uncle, Why what's this cannitude? I say,
if you can think of it, you can do it. Pop socket sounds
like can't. Well, let's get moving then, if you can do it,
I can't. I don't see nothing moving you can believe it, you
can achieve it. I hear that. I can hear it. But let's
see we unlet's see something you got. Let's see it in eyeball. You
got you got to my stample. I gotta see it in eyeball. You
do as my meals. You see him when I make example. Yes,
Dan's showing you something. Okay, I see but the people have to see
it on Instagram, of course, but it's the oh now creative Accidents has
an interesting insight at the Ocelli dot com chat. He's saying, Uncle,
I like your weather report on Instagram. What they need to talk to be
prepared. Frankie McDonald, you don't know who that is to your uncle Michael
McDonald to singer. Are you thinking about it? I remember his songs?
Michael McDonald, Yeah, yeah, Instagram. This is a different guy.
This is Frankie McDonald. He's he's carved a little niche for himself on social
media where he's an interesting guy that lives up in Canada and he I think
British Columbia and he he does these weather videos and he's an interesting guy.
He does weather videos and he's he's created an audience for himself, and so
he not unlike what we sort of hope to maybe do with our show.
He's he's done it. So maybe we should reach out to him and see
if he could be a guest on the show. He'd be a good guest
on the show. Okay again, Yeah, Frankie, Yeah, we'd love
to have you on the show. So maybe I'll send out an email here
soon, not an email, I would you say that? There we go
on since the dress. Yeah, I can find him on that should be
that. Okay, new information on new new info on pop sockets. Now
we're being told pop sockets are the handles on the back of phones. I
made up that uncle wanted them phones. Yeah, the back of back Oh
wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, you got those
those ones? Oh for a cell phone? Those weird don't handles? It
stick on the back of the show. Understand you talking about nowadays? I
have I wouldn't put mine. My zip thing came off because I lost the
glue off of it. Huh is that what you're talking about? I think
that. I guess, so I guess we are. Oh yeah, yeah,
that's a good idea. Yeah, yeah, because you know my wife
has one, Yes, I believe and yeah, yeah, yeah, I
know the one you saw him. I know what you saw a little like
it almost looks like I've I've had one. I have one, but I
can't put it together because I don't have the glue. I have a few
of them. It's like a cabinet draw Pa, how do you get the
glue on those? With this? Lady? Well, this is all from
the twitch, Chatt, How do you get the glue from them? How
do we get the gluey? They hear, they hear, They definitely hear
the question. How do we get the glue? How do we get the
glue for Popu pop Chuck? It's to put some together because I have one
that I have it needs to be repaired. Pig might take a minute to
get in the phone. Yeah, it might take a minute to for them
to hear it on Twitch. I'm not sure if there's a little delay between
you and Twitch. I don't know. Uh, Like, I know there's
a minor delay on chelly dot com. Like it's a little behind, but
not by much. Asking can She's saying, I got you uncle, there
you go. She's thinking of the question, so have answer, because is
there a way to get some or get some glue to fix it. Yeah,
there's probably a way to repair it if you took a look at it.
Either that or you know, you just get a new one. That's
a popular way to go with a lot of stuff. Well it might be,
yeah, I know it's I think it is just to put a little
glue on it and popping on. I have to take a look. I
am I'm can put it on it. I know the ones she's thought about.
No, we do, no, No, I know what else.
I had him in Chapman. He used to use them on your phone.
I had him on my phone. I know you found it useful. Yeah,
to have that on your phone, it is, It is okay,
but it has to stay there for a while. That's glued, that's wants
to come off. Once it comes off, trouble you can't get. That's
what I'm asking If she's saying a new one would be best, so she's
going with that answer is that it's difficult to repair, easier to replace,
So it goes I'm coole in this planned obsolescens and they got those in and
what places? Uh, I've seen them around in all sorts of different places.
The phone stores must have them. Probably truck stop would have them.
Maybe souvenir shops have them branded with whatever. The souvenir shop is weird little.
I mean, you might find one out of Ross Dress for Last because
they have weird stuff in there. You know, you find it anywhere out
of bed drift story. You might roll up on it. I don't know
what you're gonna get it there, so it definitely could be. You might
have to check. Yeah, you can get ones that's slide on and off
and our man to have them slide and instead of you can't. That's what
this says. It says you can get ones that's slide on and off and
ohize, that's that's what she just said. Oh oh, let's see they
can look for that kind. Then there you go, because that's kind I'd
use more than I would put the glue. Yeah. Let's see here.
The current view count on cheese the cheese with Uncles up to one point nine
k views. That's not too bad for being the first day, That's all
I'm saying. Going back to that yet, I can't help myself. That's
the one I made today. Cho's it's not bad. We shall see it's
just another Sunday night on a Shelly dot com. That's all we're doing.
And we're just here talking. Yeah, we're talking, hating on a point
where we've got our caller, Jimmy, he's on the line with us.
We've got pretty good engagement across the chat rooms via Twitch or dhli dot com
chat room. A lot of action going on there. We got an audience.
U cool. It is a few people listening. They're here, they're
there. But school man, I am. He was in the chat moment,
but I haven't hearing him talking. Yes, yes, he was earlier.
I think he still is the Dalli chat he was. I'm not entirely
sure if he's still there, but he was earlier tonight. Yeah, yeah,
he was there during my show. Yeah, you didn't want to own
the comedy show. That's instrument. Yes, indeed, you two could join
the chat at Ocelli dot com, or you could watch the live stream Uncle
the podcast live streamed on YouTube, on Twitch, on Twitter or x or
wherever they call it Uncle's account there, and even Telegram if you can find
a weird little corner of Telegram. Anybody notice my new glasses on? Yeah,
we're not here. Well on the show, you're wearing yes, hello
on the show? Is that? Oh no, what is this now?
Oh that's the thing, Okay, that's show. That's just we're getting this
is what is this thing called a pop what pop socket? The pop socket?
This is what did But this is is this glued? This is where
it says. This is what they talk she was talking about. Yeah,
how it pop? Competent enough to do it? Whoa, It's like a
hall of mirrors. I'm looking at myself on the phone here chipping me out.
Man. It's one of the things all that uh huh, all the
way up forgetting things here. It is so just imagine this. But the
graphic says uncle the podcast. Yeah, I like those ones like that instead
of the glue. Yea, I have those ones. I have the one,
but I had the glue. I wonder if we can and that's the
pop part, it pops up and down. I wonder if we can make
can buy that piece. Thank you very much. We might be all find
us somewhere and get up branded and then and then I can take it from
the glue. It gave me something to think about these things. Food for
thought is what we just ate yeah, food for thought. It's like a
dessert after dinner storted thing. Yeah, oh, there's okay. I do
see Ed in the chatroom. He is there. He's talking about Uncle Lings.
No less, Oh what Uncle Lings? I guess that's I'm not saying
known about Uncle Lings talking about his school. His school is too much.
It's either an appetizer or somebody who listens to this show. I can't tell
which that is, but it sounds like it could be either one of those
things. Uncle Ling. Uh so, yeah, well, are we on
a quiet type wait on phone calls? Well, Jimmy, I know Jimmy.
We got Jimmy. So how are we doing over there? Jimmy,
how are we doing? Has anything going for you? So? Doing good
here? Pretty good? M Jimmy's maintaining Uncle Oh what's that? Now?
That the Canadian a spin off of Rock Me? I wish that Canadian Robbin
with a call and he's got some explaining to Yeah, that's what I'm waiting
for him. I gotta listen to him now. Was that his his the
premiere of Canada is divorcing his wife? Oh? Yes, that's his wife's
divorcing. Oh who who is justin Trudeau got Trudeau. I didn't know.
I didn't care about this when then this happened, Yeah, pretty recently.
I mean the last few days. Something he doesn't something she don't like,
probably whatever. Yeah, yeah, on that phone, haven't he's doing.
I know he can call us. He's got the answers he has come on
Livin. Give me if it's cool. I'm waiting on the cool. Always
a good night when Robin calls in, because though you have to see what's
going on in that side of the country. Yeah, it's you know,
it's the same continent, right, Yeah, yeah, same continent, same
condent, North America. Part of the North American community here. We need
to be good neighbors and keep up with each other and know what's going on.
Yeah, it's all I'm sure. And if you keep shaking him,
crave you give me any one. I know he gave you a cool he
has, he would he will in the future at some point. I don't
know when that'll be, but I'm looking for to it. I can't wait
until the next time. Man, it's good. Great, we're just living
our best life here on the broadcast, aren't we up? Call for what
I'm doing tonight? Chatting to ourselves. I tell bones, bringing off this
off the bown Chuck side. Indeed not bad. My glasses? You like
those? We're talk Wait okay, yeah, you mentioned the glasses earlier on
your thing. It's on the computer. Is it part of the graphics glasses?
It's one of these things in here. Just could take a while glasses
huh sun oh oh okay, now I follow you. Okay, So this
so the thumbnail to one of these short videos we've been talking about features Uncle
wearing his sun classes and yeah, I think the thumbnail itself is kind of
captivating and garnered a few views in and of itself. That's the angry Uncle
at soccer video, socking video, something that I don't know what it was.
Yeah, I don't know how My people kept on looking at Dancy Will
what he going about? We're onto something. I don't know what it's.
These people that are looking at these crazy things and they just want to look
at they are. Yeah. Now, there's all sorts of videos that these
YouTubers make. We could go about emulating their formats Uncle, and I'm sure
it might do us some good to do that. And some of the videos
aren't really gonna be doable like survive two weeks in Antarctica. Whatever mister Best
happens to be doing. I don't think that's really our style and we don't
want to be ripping off anybody like that. But at the same time,
we could do those like reaction videos where we watch weird videos we collect online
and then we react to them. My think would be a good format that
does Uncle No, mister Beast. Have you seen the mister Beast videos?
Uncle at all? No, No, he gives away tons of money.
You ever see this crazy money video he gives away shows up or lets you
spend fifty thousand dollars right now, and people don't believe him, and he
does. He lets him spend fifty thousand dollars like he shows up ones.
I saw that hand the suitcase, the guy that was a whistler. Well,
I was watching a bunch of mister beasts with money. I was watching
a bunch of them this weekend with my son. He said, he watches
them a lot. My son brought him to me too, and he's like,
you gotta see this. I said, I'll come on, because he's
saying, oh no, this guy gives away millions of dollars. I said,
who in there? Looker's gonna be on YouTube giving away millions of dollars.
He said, oh no, you gotta see it. And I watched
and lo and behold the guy does. Yeah, he just like walks in
him. Yeah, he walks into a Walmart and says, hey, pick
out anything you want if you can figure it out. If you can,
he like gives him there. He's credit card and and he's like, hey,
well, you know what, if you go over the limit, you
won't get anything. But if you stay under the limit, and then people
go nuts and shop and right, you saw these errand didn't you? Oh
yeah, I've seen many of his videos and yeah, I can't feel on
a whim. Just give somebody ten grand like, oh do do? Like
this is some mundane thing, and he gives you ten thousand dollars. Yeah,
I want to know what mall I gotta go to, because I mean,
dude, you know, I know, I know he's given people large
sums of money. I'm sure he's in a molly. He went to move.
He went to a crazy collector store. Right did you see the collector
one? The guy was grabbing like autograph stuff and like big old movie stand
up movie props and all kinds of like crazy stuff at like some California mall,
and they must have had like eighty ninety thousand dollars worth of stuff.
Now we're getting also of interesting stuff in the chat room. First of all,
Electric Dazz saying that the reaction videos he thinks would be very good if
we did them, And I agree. I think the reaction video is a
good format for us to use. Uncle like good. It's basically so,
mister Beast does this too. He's got like his regular like co host guys
that show up, and one of those guys, him and mister Beast watch
various videos. They collect all these videos that they find online. It's like,
you know, and usually they're themes like let's watch satisfying videos. So
they'll watch like somebody painting a wall or whatever. Then I'll watch another video,
you know, paint being peeled or whatever, satisfying videos. Okay,
let's look. Then I can see that being good with your reactions being interesting.
Another good one which might be really good for Uncle is if you can
find him music or stuff he's never heard before or never seen before, Like
the music. I like the music reaction ones where they're like, hey,
this is what happens when you play you know, Slayer's Raining Blood for a
five year old. Yes, yes, exactly, And it's pretty funny those.
I mean, I know it's totally waste of time, but it's just
like some of the stuff that happens on there is pretty hilarious. When when
you like, we're gonna do this for the first time, this person's ever
gonna hear this. You know, they play metal or they play something weird.
Uh, you know, like, hey, this is a song from
the eighties and they go, I think that would be a good format to
use of us doing that, Uncle, I think that would be okay this
coming weekend. Oh, let's get stuarted on it. Not now, we'll
do it soon, Do it soon when you have the time, because yeah,
I know this week we've got another request. Uncle. People are saying
they want a cactus taste test like this. That's you that's talking about specialty,
uncle, Yes, specialty and the back yard. That's right. We
could Uh how about the the the the ones you're making with them to look
at, well, well, yeah, those the different even to have on
us. I would say that they might get something out of that. It
occurs to me a crazy combo idea. You're ready for this one, Okay,
So Uncle puts together one of his dishes, whatever they may be,
and then yeah, yeah, yeah, you can say it that way.
You get somebody with a reaction to the dish. So now you got to
come and do a taste test. I don't know if you should do it
with the kids, or if you should do it with you know, a
neighbor, Like, find somebody who can then do a taste test with Uncle's
food. Yeah, it could be like Uncle's dinner party or something. You
invite people over and then Uncle cooks and you have to eat whatever he sets
out you and then you have a reaction. Okay, Uncle, not a
bad idea, right. I know who I can start it with, though,
your son? Yeah, I gave it to him. He'll eat will
trying is friend. Trying is friend, So you can force me. Well,
that's how you have to do it with them. I know you had
to do it that some way. Yeah, that might be a hard sell,
I'm thinking with that's him. You have to find ways to encourage the
guests to eat your food. And that's where mister Beast would be handed you
to have be like, I'll give you twelve thousand dollars if you eat uncle
sandwich. Like, yeah, I don't know if we're gonna be all pull
that off, but we have to come up with an equivalent persuasive argument for
the person to get him to do it. I guess not two thousand dollars
persuasive, but something I don't know. You can do a lot with mister
beast money. Okay, but I don't got mister beast money neither you.
I don't think Uncle does. So you know what we're gonna do it.
Look, man, I got ten bucks for you. Come on, you
know ten bucks. Welcome to somebody on the street. Excuse me, excuse
me? Would you eat this for ten bucks? You would try that?
We could. It might work enough to work. Yeah, the reaction videos
would be good. We may do those. The cactus video I like actually
a lot, And that's a good example of something that I would do if
we were doing more of if we got to a point where we had an
audience. I knew that we were gonna if we get to the point that
we'd like to be, we'd start making videos like that. I would eat
the cactus with uncle and it would be Yes. I think that would turn
out to be an interesting video on call. Well, we we'd take these
spines off before we didn't, we'd eat the inside of it and it would
be fine. It's very soft, but we have a very good it could
be a very successful video segment. What you guys should do is take that
food and get too hungry bumps, So let fight it out. Who gets
stud like bum fights the video about? Yeah, I'm pretty sure everybody got
their bum fight videos band pretty much. That's all. Yeah, I think
I think Jimmy that that that's the kind of thing that gets people knocking,
and especially now the Feds will come knocking on your door you try and post
that on YouTube anymore. I read something about that a couple of years ago
from the old successful because that was a big thing on VHS and early DVD
was the Bumfight series. Yeah, those guys got in trouble for sure.
I can't remember what exactly happened, but they did. They did. Do
you remember what the charges were on that chuck? They hit him with so
much different stuff. It pretty much shut them down because they had a huge
successful mail order business this and it got squashed by all sorts that they had
local, state charges everything. But nowadays I read something about somebody trying to
resurrect that idea not too long ago. And I know for sure you can't
try and pull that on YouTube. Ye, so yeah, you keep you
know, but there might be a way to do it. Like I said,
if you if you're on the street, though, you offer somebody money,
that's a different thing where it's like if you offer money not to you
know, not to fight, because then you're encouraging what was it like encouraging
a violent act or whatever, because yes, yeah, but you know the
bum fights thing. I don't want to be emulating bump fights. Like I
think if I took anything from those videos, it'd be just the talking to
the homeless I think can be a good thing for video, but I wouldn't
want to do the bum fights variety. Well, they went crazy. They
went out there with that guy like the crocodile hunter for a little bit and
they had bum hunter. Remember the Yes, I think I remember that bit.
Yeah, I have seen the videos. Yeah, they were just like
pulling up people out of nowhere. They were pulling them up when they were
sleeping and tying them up and all kinds of crazy stuff. Yeah, they
got all he got out of hand to those videos for sure. Yeah so
anyway, No, no, I would not suggest the bum pipe thing,
but I mean going on the streets somewhere in a public space, so long
as you are not you know, so long as like businesses don't start calling
the cops on either chase your way or whatever. Oh you know what,
this brings up an interesting point. Just the other day, a twitch streamer
put out some sort of message on social media saying, hey, come down
to this park in New York City. I forget which one I'm gonna be
there giving out PlayStations. I think it's what he said. And then a
bunch of kids showed up and there ended up being a riot. Oh yeah,
the riot police came in. And now that guy, that twitch streamer
has got charges on him because of inciting a riot. But he didn't take
the proper precautions to create security or anything, and he created it like a
flash mob that just sort of showed up. And yeah, I just went
crazy out of control and they started fighting with the cops and everything. It
was a madness because he was giving away, he was he was giving away
either PlayStations or xboxes or something yep, and uh yeah, and just people
went nuts. So anybody going for them, Hey, I can put it
in my machine. Pop. It's it's a good comptionary tale. Uncle.
I mean we're talking all these like gonough not not not not that fuck you
can't I not go that fut and you gotta be careful not too That's that's
what we're saying. So we can we can do these videos like well,
let's eat a cactus and make a video. And we just had to keep
in the back of our mind. Uncle is like, well, how far
is too far? Don't do that? Keep it simple, don't go too
crazy. I only do simple stuff. Yeah, exactly, like liking me,
you sthing sandwichs like I've been doing me here bad simple stuff. I
mean put it. Do it more than that you're looking for trouble, Yes,
exactly. We don't want to do that. I mean that that that
now now there's there's it's it's an odd time because it's it's got I feel
like we've really got to this point where these streamers and internet celebrities and and
influencers whatever, or at this point where they're doing these wild things, and
it's sort of you. They're on the precipice where this sort of thing was
gonna start happening. Apparently it is now. I don't want to get it
over overpopulating, you know, I mean he want you want to do a
podcast, but not to have it like you're saying, we just want to
change. I don't want know what we're doing. You can't have ten thousand
people show up and you've got no way to direct traffic. I mean,
that's that's that's a you know, you got about ten minute it's left,
just so you know, because you're gonna go six over the hour and we're
already at fifty six, so you got about ten minutes left. Okay,
Well, very good, it's pretty good, all right here? Ok fine,
no six manute. We should know now, not many Colas or any
Jimmy. We know. And I guess that last week didn't wasn't very good.
Got a better cut back on my talking. I haven't been talking much
tonight. Oh do you want to take a couple more words? Because of
because of what I said last week? It's not that good. Oh wait
a minute, you know what I wanted to mention a couple of things.
Well, now you want a couple of things. Well, first of all,
I wanted to correct something. I mentioned that the Orkney Islands were in
Ireland. They are not. They're their own islands off the coast of Scotland.
They're kind of affiliated with Scotland. Not really, I don't know.
And then I also said that nobody mentioned Jamaica Queen's. Actually your sister did.
And then also I must say thank you to Carolyn, who gave us
a pretty good donation. And she said, she said, yeah, she
gave us a good donation. And she said, Uncle, enjoy watching your
videos and listen to your show. So there we go. We got a
fan there. We must be doing something right. Carolyn was very nice and
gave us a really good Carolyn So, thank you Carolyn, thank you forgotten
show. I was wondering who that was. Yeah, thank Kaman. Now
wait a minute, she might be listening. Apparently she is. And yeah,
she said as much in the comment on the thing. But did you
want to mention something? I didn't mean to cut you off there, uncle,
did you want to mention something like very nice too? Finally listening to
me? Damn, that was nice. I appreciate that. Yeah, it's
good and yes, so what we're good? Here? Is it quiet night?
Of course, I can understand people do not want to it's a good
opportunity to workshop. Idea. Is that call. That's what we're going We're
using shop of trying to make more people listen. We are getting to that
point. It seems they are listening. Yes, I gotta say they are.
They're clearly are listening, especially to my menus. Yes, to my
menus. You should you eating? Amt to me? Well, you got
this money. See this cheese thing. See when he came over with the
cheese thing. I mean, yeah, it's just the menu. It's almost
two thousand views right now. We just posted today, just one day.
And to find it. You're asking pretty good for something like that might be
the way to go on call, I think so you gotta choice them to
call in give me more. You need to tregue them and get them to
You got plenty of listeners, reviewers. You just want to work. Callers
need more. That's what exactly what you're saying, Jimmy, That's exactly what
I'm looking for. Don't to call, don't fay to call the number number
the numbers three one nine, five two seven, five zero one six,
and that is the number to call every week. If you want to call
me, that's the number to call. So don't he's dead. Yep.
You can use Skype as well. Skype won't and talk in the Chuck.
You type a message to he'll bring you on the show. On the show.
So Skype for the phone calls. You love having you call in.
I think that's what we're gonna have to push more on the phone calls.
But I don't do with the phone pushing them, but on the phone calls.
This interesting too, is once you get to a level of a certain
size of an audience, phone calls flow into such a degree that you got
to keep like hanging up on them. This is people with larger audiences.
That seems to be how it goes for them. Our our audience is good
and it's great, and it's a good size, and it doesn't necessarily have
to be size. That's talking about the sizes you know. Well, you
know, if you notice like a revolution night, right, or other nights
where we got a lot of callers that come in, I do I bring
them in and out, in and out, because you have to Jimmy can
just hang out with us right like he's been doing because there's not a lot
of callers. But if there was more, yeah, you gotta you gotta
rotate him in and out, in and out when you get to a certain
level. Yeah, that's the way it is. And that usually means you've
got a large live audience, which you know what, none of us really
almost nobody's got a large live audience anymore, not a large one. You
was coming along, Chuck. My audience is only to you know, not
not not much different than yours live. Most of the time, it's it's
all about the podcast after, you know, just like these videos when you're
doing them live, there's a few people there, but then thousands of people
will go get them later, you know what I mean. That's just the
way they go back to them. Yeah, yeah, that's a good thing
with the podcast. Well, yeah, that's what that's It makes it and
doesn't say if, for example, a load of people was gonna cool,
but let's wait and see him put it on an ab put it on this
show, and we'll get it back to them and following late maybe they'll call
that maybe how it will Yeah, yeah, but I'm telling you. I've
listened to some shows that are like Vibrato show slash podcasts, and certain people
usually if it's a celebrity doing a show, they can garner garner an audience
the size when they start taking calls. The calls keep coming in and the
host tends to like talk to him for like a even like a few seconds,
and then they just hang up on him. Then immediately they get another
call, and they keep going like that for as long as they want.
Really, So it's that's that happens. Oh, I'm having a couple like
that. Back in the past, I had a couple like that. It's
time money bakes to do. I've had that. I know what you're talking.
It sets up an entire different dynamic that we're not used to here because
you end up with like ten people on the line, so you got to
try and get him in, get him in, get him in. And
I'm having that problem on Friday nights. People are waiting a long time because
we're talking too much and other people are talking too long, and I can't
get everybody. Jimmy could tell you he was on he was on hold like
over an hour this past Friday on my show yeah, yeah, Jim,
you're on You're on hold, like over an hour on Friday, right,
Oh yeah, yeah, there was a couple of people that were on hold
for an hour because we couldn't get through the calls quick enough. See,
that's the thing. You got to change the way that you deliver. If
you start getting a whole lot of them lighting up, then you got to
move them through quickly. And I did a bad job of it this this
week. I had I had at least two of them sitting there for over
an hour, and uh did the best I could trying to get through.
And I'm like, all right, all right, all right, all right,
guys, move on, move on. And I just couldn't even get
him, you know. So it was it was tough. But but usually
that doesn't happen. We're happy to have one two callers, you know,
everybody's happy. But yeah, when you get when you get them lined up
like that, you gotta run them through as fast as you can. And
then at the end of the show there's some guys you didn't even get to
no matter how fast you Well, that's why I push it along, like
I'm gonna have a limit on my talking five minute talk to the new people,
and then if there's another one behind it, it comes back, chuck.
If another one behind it comes back, I'll say, hold him,
I gotta call them. I'm going to do let's talk understanding the person who's
on it here it is uncle. I'm set up for that already. The
second somebody calls in, if I wait like a minute after they got on
there, I make sure that they're gonna stay on hold, and then I
ring your phone. You hear it. So I'm set up. If we
got a hundred callers, okay at the beginning of the show, no problem.
I will keep running them through to you. Okay, But this is
wondering about that, because it's depending on if I can get them tune and
just okay, I got another cluck, I got another clup. I'll get
them. I'll get them all. That's what you were doing. You said,
I don't pick them up. I'll pick them up all. But if
I got this many, I'm not gonna let's say waste one, right,
That's what I'm knowing. That's what I don't want to do. Yeah,
if everybody wanted to call in all at once, no problem. I can
handle that. But you know, What the problem was for me this past
week on the Friday Show is I'm trying to talk and I'm trying to manage
other people talking. And what I should have done is I should have put
Harlan on hold quicker and just okay, okay, good, you're done with
your point put. I should have moved him along faster. And I wasn't
used to doing it. But when I'm sitting here just being the producer,
it's easier because I can just watch that phone line and I know how fast
I can run them through. The problem is I see, yeah, when
you do with you own, that's tough that I see what you're yeah,
yeah, yeah, I see what you mean. Because I'm producing my show
too. That's the point. Yeah, if you're producing it and then you're
doing it and then you calling yeah, yeah, I see that, uncle.
Yeah. See, that's why you're need That's why I need another guy
to help me out with the production, because the thing is, when I
do Your New Year's Revolution, we get to everybody, right, everybody gets
on and sometimes boom boom boom boom boom. Right, we get everybody.
See you're going to Texas. You're going to Texas soon, in November.
Yeah, fine down if you can find none ass or ass can you can
you? I'm lens, give me a hand on my producing side. Producer
down there be in there in Dallas, somewhere in there, just to mention
it. We'll just mention. I'll put it out like this. If somebody's
listening to the Uncle's show right now and wants to help out with production on
Ocelli dot com. I won't hand you Aaron and Uncle's show right away because
I handle that and I don't want to trust nobody else with it until they
know exactly what they're doing. But I'll teach you how to produce using my
show if you want. I'll teach somebody how to produce again, want to
learn how to do this? And you could be the other producer and we
could mix things up. It would be great. I would love it.
We could do more shows. That's where I see what you need. So
if you can fit that down, say that. So let's see what happens.
You said that, see what happens the next week exactly. Info at
o'chelly dot com right to me there and I will I will set you up.
I'll show you how to do it. All of that. If if
you want to learn, I'll teach you. I can't pay you, but
I can teach you. And you know, hey, if things start to
work out towards the end of the year, who knows, maybe we can
all start to get a little something out of it too. But I can't
offer that right this minute. First thing I gotta do is pay the guys
doing the shows. Then after that, if we can figure out a way
to make everybody a little bit of money, that would be wonderful. But
it's not about the money. If you want to learn how to do this,
and I can show you how to run the phones and the broadcast and
all that, it's it's very very helpful and you can take that skill and
do your own thing, your own radio station after that if you want.
But you know, hey, help me out for a little while. There
you go, there we go. That worked. Wasn't good offer for possibly
somebody who could help me sell you radio network and about just on one mind
doing it. Yeah, just to say and that's I mean, this goes
back to the point of hyber mac and cheese videos un called. Yeah,
going right back to my menu. We're trying going to let menus, I
call up my menus, not cheese man. Okay, sorry, my menu.
That's we're doing my menus. Okay, that's how you say. Okay,
not we're not doing cheese videos. Okay, we're working on Uncle's menus.
Yeah, and we're doing a lot of it. Yeah. And by
George, I think we're onto something something because he even got got his wife
into doing the calling out and she calling wait a minute, wait man,
let me go on phone and you know how let go. So if you
want to watch these videos, it's at on the podcast on Instagram mainly,
but also actually YouTube. It's at Uncle podcast now and Twitter that were x
or whatever in the world it is, and we're Uncle the Podcast dot com.
I'm at the end of the show for this week Uncle. Okay,
Jimmy, yo up, Okay, shout out for Jimmy. Jimmy got shout
out, Yeah, shout out to you. There's Chuck and everyone can n
support the network. Can have a good weekend. Actually, I guess weekends
over a good pretty Greek take care, Jimmy, Thank you, Jimmy,
Uncle did you watch out out? Shout out? Who is the ever listening?
I should say? Oh damn to understand my menus and keep on listening
and watching. Who's that screaming? Somebody screaming? I think it's everybody for
listening tonight, everybody in the chat room. Great to have to again at
that must podcast. They must have been the chatman. Caroline, thanks again
for the generous nation. We really appreciate it, Uncle I, and bring
us home for there's a three hundred and fifth episode. Bye bye the