WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:05.519 How you doing out there? It's me Tiggert. I am Duc Wayne Duck. 2 00:00:05.799 --> 00:00:08.880 It's me Bunkers Deep Bobcat. All right, y'all? Did is it 3 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.640 rate your favorite fire fly you desire? Hold the old knock gud. My 4 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:19.000 name is Jim Cummings and welcome to tuned In. All right, welcome back 5 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:22.039 to another episode of Tuned In with Jim Cummings. Today, our guest is 6 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:25.160 Kevin McNally. Thank you very much for joining us. It's my pleasure, 7 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:30.679 did well, thank you for being here. This is wonderful. Yeah, 8 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:33.560 you were just in the neighborhood and uh, I know it's one of it 9 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:36.520 and we've you know, we've met a few times recently at comic cons and 10 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:39.600 so thank you for inviting me. It's really nice. Well, I'm glad 11 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:42.359 you can make it. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. Nothing else to 12 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:46.679 do, that's right, that's right. Well you you kind of like me. 13 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:51.000 We're con men these days, aren't we? As in conventions and con 14 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:55.719 men bye and the other and the other and all the applications apply. But 15 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:59.320 yeah, but it's it's it's fun stuff. It's a fascinating world. And 16 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:02.799 you know, I've I've got to meet some amazing people. But you of 17 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:07.640 course, I remember once sitting an opposite me were a tinker Belt, Thumper 18 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:12.000 and Bambi from the original movie, and I thought, who else gets to 19 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:15.000 meet these people? You know? And I have to say the very young 20 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:19.599 incarnations of tinker Bell, Bambian and Thumb nowadays. But yes, yes, 21 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.439 I've met some people. And you know that it's a nice group of people 22 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.280 that you keep on re meeting, and you meet in different places, and 23 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:29.359 the travels great and the friendship's great, and I love it. Yeah, 24 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:33.200 I do too. There's a there's a certain camaraderie there is. Camaraderie is 25 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:37.680 a very good word, I feel, and it's you know, you if 26 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:40.840 someone has too many people, like if William Shatner shows up and eats the 27 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:42.760 show, You're going, well, he's a really nice guy, that bastard. 28 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:49.079 I know. I fortunately never managed to have my blood sucked by William 29 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:55.079 Shatner. So but I'm sure having said that, I've opened up a whole 30 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:57.840 bag of worms. Yes, well, I hope so. And you heard 31 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:00.120 it here first. Well, of course, the thing that often happens to 32 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:04.959 me that really blows me out is that you know, I've been in a 33 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.560 couple of episodes of Doctor Who, both the classic back in the eighties and 34 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:12.680 Flux last year. Of course I get invited along to a lot of those, 35 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.919 but if there's a recent Doctor Who there, I've sort of had it. 36 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:20.000 Yeah, I'm sitting there twiddling my thumbs while they have lines around the 37 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:23.439 block, you know, right, quite rightly so, but yeah, little 38 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:28.960 things like that can happen. Yeah, that's that franchise has been going sixties 39 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:34.360 sixty years. Yeah it is. I remember because I was just turned seven 40 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:38.080 when I accidentally saw the first episode of it accidentally, like yeah, well 41 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:40.599 I tell you what happened, because it was on the radio, so that 42 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:46.719 was no TV black and white. Yes, my mum used to take me 43 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:50.360 out shopping on a Saturday afternoon. We get back in time for me to 44 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:54.199 see my favorite show, the Telegoons at six fifteen, and we got back, 45 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:57.759 and of course I was seven years old, so I didn't pay much 46 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:01.400 attention each week, and he said, and now a new new program, 47 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:06.120 Doctor Who, And according to my mum, I went running crying into the 48 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:10.479 kitchen saying the Telegoons, stupid doctor. She said, well go doctor, 49 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:14.599 go and watch it and see if you like. You never know, it 50 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:16.719 could be a near franchise, it could be good, and you know, 51 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:20.840 and then I was hooked for the next thirty years. You know, wow, 52 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:23.639 until today in a minute. Now, it's extraordinary. I can't believe 53 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:30.719 you were never one of the Doctor Who's Well, I share your disbelief. 54 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:37.400 Jim and I have slightly more acrimony in my I would mix. But it's 55 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:39.479 a funny thing actually about those parts, because I would love to have been 56 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:45.919 Doctor Who. But I remember once there's a very famous TV procedural that's quite 57 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.879 popular over here on Acorn and brit Box and stuff, and I've been in 58 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:54.560 it a couple of times. And the leading sort of the leading detective decided 59 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:59.479 to retire. So I got a phone call from my agent saying John's going 60 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:02.759 and I'd like you to know Kevin is on the short list as his replacement. 61 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:08.759 Well, I really don't enjoy procedurals very much, so I said, 62 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:11.560 to imagine, can you phone him back and in the same term of voice, 63 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.240 ask them kindly to take my name off that list because I couldn't. 64 00:04:15.279 --> 00:04:19.439 I couldn't imagine spending six years going around saying so where were you on the 65 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:24.279 night of the fourteenth, And in what position did you find the body? 66 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:27.759 You know, I mean, I just I mean lovely. People enjoy it, 67 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.639 but I wouldn't enjoy being it, right, Yeah, a little too 68 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:35.720 cookie cutter? Yeah yeah, yeah, got a particularly good phrase. Well, 69 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:41.959 you probably enjoyed the challenge of the stretch the list of that. I 70 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:47.800 do enjoy that, and so I'm much more interested in playing more colorful characters. 71 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:51.680 Yes, I think, yes, And I'm sure that's the case for 72 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:55.879 you as well, with your extraordinary range of voices. I must tell you 73 00:04:55.920 --> 00:05:00.399 something about the voices, actually, because I'm quite recent, quite recent to 74 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:05.319 voice acting. The way it happened was quite extraordinary. Just before lockdown, 75 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:12.439 Oh, I thought to myself, why is nobody taking full advantage of this 76 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:16.480 beautiful, mallifluous voice that I have? So I went out and I spent 77 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.839 I was just gonna ask that I spent a lot of money on recording equipment. 78 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:27.079 Then lockdown happened and all of the agents were being phoned up. Can 79 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.040 anybody record from home? And my smug little hand went up in the air. 80 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:33.879 Oh and I became a voice actor, which i'd never really, I 81 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:36.879 mean, i'd done bits and pieces. Sure, but I just did my 82 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:42.319 first cartoon. I'm on the second series of that, so really really interesting 83 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:46.360 development to have happened later in life. I know that is wonderful. And 84 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:48.000 and if I'm not mistaken, Let's see, what is the name of this 85 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:54.800 famous cartoon, the wing Feather Saga, This Wing Feather Saga. It hasn't 86 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:59.560 got huge distribution, but the people who like it love it. I'm just 87 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:09.120 hoping one day I get to replace somebody in an iconic character. I'd love 88 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.879 to play one of those iconic characters. Oh yeah, I agree. Do 89 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:16.199 you have a specific one in mind. Well, I'm very very keen on 90 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:21.279 all of the Looney tunes, so you know that's good. I'm not many 91 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:27.319 of them, so have had it. Well you're you're Taz the Tasmanian Devil. 92 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:34.560 Yeah, and oh yeah yeah, see see that you have to practice, 93 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:38.680 Yes, I can see that. Yeah, a lot of memorization. 94 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:43.839 Yeah, of course, the go first No, no, you got it, 95 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:46.839 that's not even the right sound. Okay, don't ever do that again, 96 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:54.839 thank you. All right, Well that's about it. Yeah. Yeah, 97 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:58.439 oh that's good. That's good stuff. Hopefully, Well we'll see. 98 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:04.279 I'm interested what recording you purchased. Oh yeah, I oh god. It's 99 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:11.560 called a pro Max. It's a little into midiory box and you can either 100 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:15.399 record on a onto a USB or you can direct it through one of those 101 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:21.680 applications on your computer. But it just stops you using crap stuff like your 102 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:27.000 phone, your phone, yeah, and putting your head under pillows and stuff. 103 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:29.839 I got a nice wrap around, right right. I mean the amount 104 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:34.720 of times I've crouched in the airing cupboard of hotel rooms, yes, surrounded 105 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:40.000 by cushions to do an audition. It's really quite undignified. The bath towels 106 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:44.399 are yeah, the bank exactly. Yeah, well I know those towels and 107 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.040 cushions, yeah yeah. But it's it's a lot of fun. Well. 108 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:50.879 The good thing about voiceover is you don't have to be on set. You 109 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:56.319 don't have to look good. I just to say that I did it. 110 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:01.279 This is a long time ago I used to do. Boy, should I 111 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.800 tell this? Sure? Why not? Go on? I did for TBS. 112 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:09.879 I was the guy Turner Broadcasting System and I was coming up next on 113 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:13.720 TBS. I was one of those guys, you know, and I just 114 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.879 treated it like another character because nobody really talks like this, that's true. 115 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:24.480 So I just did that, and I said, okay, I'm gonna do 116 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:30.000 it. I got naked, went into the thing and recorded a slew of 117 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:37.080 promos or whatever. I don't even remember the show, but I remember hearing 118 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.279 it on to mes and I go, do I sound naked? You know? 119 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:45.200 And apparently I snuck one by. Nobody knows, really, no one 120 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:46.720 knows you were naked. Well you did that, No nobody knows. It's 121 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:52.159 funny about that voice, because one of the first voice gigs I ever got 122 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:56.639 in America was announcing I can't remember what the network was, maybe c W 123 00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:01.840 Donner, was it, TBS, No, it was Once upon a Time? 124 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.240 Oh and I so I was like, and now on CBS, it's 125 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:09.120 once upon a Time. And I listened to loads of people and that was 126 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:13.960 a very American delivery. Well, no, I want to I always try 127 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.960 to play American here, oh, because I don't want to just play Romans 128 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:22.799 and Nazis. So you know, I try to be American if I possibly 129 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.480 can. And most of the TV work I've done here, I've played Americans. 130 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.799 So that's good. That's good. I enjoy it as well, because 131 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:33.120 you know, you're adopting a whole new nationality, a whole new personality, 132 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.759 whole new voice. I love it. Oh that's great. Yeah, that's 133 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:43.320 really good. Well I've been pigeonholed. It's in any number of cartoons and 134 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:50.000 movie Princess and the Frog. I was a Cajun because when I was a 135 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.440 kid, I was a deckhand. I'm born in Yarxtann, Ohio, but 136 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:54.919 I moved to New Orleans at an early age, right out of high school. 137 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:58.759 And the only job I could get that I could eat that day. 138 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:03.480 I think I've said this before a few times, but was when you get 139 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:05.759 a deckhand on the river broak because they have a galley there, there's a 140 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:07.639 kitchen. You can eat food all day. So I said, well, 141 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.799 I'm out there, and then I discovered that I was. Even though everybody 142 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:16.039 was born in America, most of them were from Louisiana. And they dogged 143 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.279 like this, that's the way that they target you know it. I'm too 144 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.279 boy. You go there, you get that boundary bread tea and get on 145 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.600 back here. And I said, what the hell did you just say? 146 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:28.919 Yeah, so I picked that up, and you know, you picked those 147 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:33.159 things up and put them in the bank. And you never know, you 148 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.320 never know. So that guys, I must say, being in Tupelo, 149 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:43.600 Mississippi recently, which i'd never been to, I it was the first time 150 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:48.120 in my life in America and I've been coming here and working here for twenty 151 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:52.480 five years now that there were people who speaking to me. I didn't understand 152 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:54.360 what they were saying to me. It's such a strong accent. But I 153 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.799 was trying to get it in there and think, well, one day somebody 154 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.840 might ask me to be from Missisis you know, so I've got a little 155 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:07.360 voice print now. Yeah, that accident one of my favorite things. And 156 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:13.080 it was Tennessee Williams wrote it. Oh gosh, which one was it? 157 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:18.480 It was Orson Wells was in it? Michael Kine and it was my favorite 158 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:22.519 thing. Oh what is the name of it? It's very famous movie. 159 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:28.440 Anyway he was was it Orson Wells or anyway? It was Michael Kaine? 160 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:33.720 And he said, well, I don't know about yowl, but look at 161 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:39.759 here, yoell oh, I got it down and offhead. Enough of this 162 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:45.960 yowl. And it was it was just major mad enough to smack your grandma. 163 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:48.240 I know. I wanted to see that you've got to remember that for 164 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:52.480 the end of that. Well it was a Tennessee Williams. I have never 165 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:58.360 ever seen Michael Kine attempt any accents other than his ingrained Cockney accent, which 166 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.080 is fantastic. Yeah, but the idea of Michael kind of going, you 167 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.519 know what they say down there, yo, not a lot of people know 168 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:07.279 that. It might be quite interesting to watch. Yes, it is, 169 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:11.080 it is. I wonder if Orson was trying to do a Southern accent too, 170 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.000 I know, was he just trying to sell my wine? Yes? 171 00:12:16.240 --> 00:12:20.320 Probably, So it was either Orson or or oh gosh, I can't think 172 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.840 of that. He weren't on air. I would be looking it up now. 173 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:26.360 Yeah, we're in a bar. I'd be like this. Yeah, 174 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:30.960 well shit, yeah, I can actually watch it on Aline. It's great. 175 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.279 Ye. Well we'll be in a bar soon, so yeah, exactly. 176 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:39.000 Well yeah, well the mystery will be closed for too long. So 177 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:41.720 this is one of my favorite things. We were talking about it earlier when 178 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:48.279 Chris Farley from Saturday Night I met Paul McCartney. He said, I can't 179 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:52.639 remember the exact intes, so he goes, so, anyway, you're Paul 180 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.279 McCartney and everything right, Paul goes, yeah, that that's that's what they're 181 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:01.679 telling me. He goes, you are a beetle. Oh yeah, yeah 182 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:03.639 it was, it was that was a beetle. What was that like? 183 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.559 He goes, that was good and that was it. He goes, Wow, 184 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:13.879 so brilliant. It's very good. Paul McCartney by the way, Oh 185 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.720 yeah, we don't know. I like Paul's was this great? Oh yeah 186 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:22.360 yeah yeah, well every every American has. That was our first introduction to 187 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:26.440 to the end. Yeah yeah, not to England or Cockney or any Cockney 188 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:28.840 everybody. I mean, I've been doing Coartney since I was a month old. 189 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:33.200 Really, but Liverpool, I hear. I've never seen it because it's 190 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:39.360 probably white. Now. The first time the Beatles appeared in the America, 191 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.440 they were introducers and now Cockney rock band the Beatles. Oh really, John 192 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:50.360 was furious, I would think, because it's the exact opposite of that. 193 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.200 There's a great story about the rivalry between the Beatles and the Kinks. Actually 194 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:58.200 they did it. They did it. The Kinks supported the Beatles in the 195 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:03.440 sixties and they got Ray Davis got on the lift and John Lennon was there 196 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:09.200 and they're all messed with John No, and John said are you Ray Davis 197 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:13.039 from the Kinks? And he said, yeah, yeah, I am, 198 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:18.279 and he went a word that we don't use here and got out years later 199 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:24.480 rhymes with runt. Yeah yeah. Years later, Ray Davis is going to 200 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.720 rent an apartment in the Dakota Building and he gets in the lift and John 201 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:35.080 Lennon gets in and John looks at him and says, are you Ray Davis? 202 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:39.399 And he goes yeah, and John says sorry about the other night, 203 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:48.080 the other nights like forty years. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, 204 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:50.279 Cracker, that is a good one. Is there any Have you ever 205 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:56.919 met any of those four lads? No, sadly not. And what happened 206 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:03.519 to me, it's a personal te is when we did the fourth Pirates of 207 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:07.879 the Caribbean film, Paul McCartney was in it, and they didn't tell anybody, 208 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:15.120 and so I just found out the next I was talking to Johnny Depp 209 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:18.759 and he said, guess who I was working with yesterday? I said who? 210 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:22.639 I said, Paul McCartney. I said, didn't you tell me come 211 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:26.080 down and send a note to Paul McCartney. Yes, I know. No, 212 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.879 I never got a chance to meet anything maybe this time for Paul and 213 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.000 Ringo. Yeah, yeah, oh god, well, you know, I 214 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.440 do have while we're on the subject, I do have a little story. 215 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.879 I used to be a musician still there, I guess in New Orleans, 216 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:46.399 and uh, we we were fairly popular. Band name was Fusion. Nobody 217 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:50.360 cares. But we would go on Saturday mornings or Friday mornings whatever and hang 218 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:54.879 around at the local rock and roll music store where they sold the guitars and 219 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:58.879 drums, symbols and everything, because we're waiting for people to recognize us and 220 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:03.440 know, you never know. And so we're hanging around the office of the 221 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:11.799 fella there and uh, and he's sitting there fiddling with the bass, you 222 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.440 know, and he's and I noticed that he's playing it upside down because he 223 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:19.360 was right handed. And I said, uh, and that's that's a left 224 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:23.240 handed bass that you're playing is Oh, yeah, well, Paul's left handed. 225 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:30.399 And there was a fellow that worked there named Paul Williams and I said, 226 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.759 no, he's not. And he plays a rickenbacker. And he was 227 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.720 in this horrible show band called the New South or something, and they all 228 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:41.919 wore vests and had big wide mutton chops and you know, very dated. 229 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:45.320 And I said, no, no, he doesn't. He goes, oh, 230 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.679 he's been playing playing bass all his life. He's you know, he's 231 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:55.159 and he's recording. Actually, what do you mean he's recording what tia yellow 232 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:59.360 ribbon around the old oak tree. I think it's been done And he said, 233 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:02.240 no, no, no, over at Saints Studios. He's recording a 234 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:06.759 new album, a new album. Oh so he's recording a new album. 235 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:10.599 How about his first album? No, no, he's had many, many 236 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:14.920 albums. And I go, okay, well that's ridiculous. I gotta go. 237 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:18.160 You're you're on crack or whatever, you know. And he picks up 238 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:23.519 this this case and boom puts it down. And it's got LaGuardia insured insured, 239 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:27.759 New Orleans International Insured insured and he's putting it. I said, what 240 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:33.039 the hell? Why did he buy this overseas? He said, oh, 241 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:38.200 I'm sorry, this is Paul McCartney's base. We're fixing, fixing the intonation, 242 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:42.519 I said, And I grabbed it from it, and I swear to 243 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:47.559 you, I turned it around like this and rubbed my head on the forehead 244 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:52.200 from top to bottom on the strings, just because I said, I'm going 245 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:56.279 to steal some magic. Yeah, it didn't work. Didn't do a damn 246 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:03.039 thing. To choose another comper except defaced pause. Yeah, pauls probably watching. 247 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:07.079 Yeah, of course he is a great fan of mine. And yeah, 248 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:12.160 yeah, so sorry Paul wherever you are. Sorry, Okay, I'm 249 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:18.559 done. That's spent. That's once I got my Yeah, and that that 250 00:18:18.599 --> 00:18:22.720 will be that. Ye lovely, So what's the The next thing? Is 251 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:26.279 you're on the road again? No, I finished being on the road now, 252 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:33.319 And what I'm hoping to do is I made a wonderful feature film with 253 00:18:33.400 --> 00:18:41.279 the brilliant Diane West and she played my wife, and it's a prequel to 254 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:45.759 Rosemary's Baby, and we're gonna I'm gonna go back to England and launch it 255 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:49.839 there. It's really you know, I get to play the old Satanist from 256 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:55.079 the film and it's really really enjoyable. Apart from that, I don't know 257 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.160 what the next project is, but it will be my favorite. I'm sure 258 00:18:57.319 --> 00:19:00.200 yes it will. Yeah, well, this one's going to be my favorite. 259 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:04.000 Are you going to know? All I can remember is it was the 260 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:08.519 first time that I ever saw a man with a pierced ear on film. 261 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:15.039 And is that the fellow, you're playing that you have a yeah, and 262 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:18.319 and somebody noticed it. And during Rosemary's Baby, because it was so very 263 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.359 long ago, that was a rarity. You never saw that. Yeah, 264 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:27.160 and I forget it was a mea faroh summity, John, I don't think 265 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:30.680 it was my character. I hopefully we would have picked up on that. 266 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:33.440 But if we have, I'm going back and saying, you go to c 267 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.519 G I PSD. Yeah, I should investigate that. What else I'm on 268 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:41.359 to looking up? Oh yeah, Michael Kaine doing a Southern accident. Michael 269 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:44.839 Kaite. Yeah, your cat on a Hutton roof. Oh well there you 270 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.440 go there. Yeah, i'd had to come to me. Thank you for 271 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:51.880 the jar. Yeah, the smack to the back of my head. Never 272 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:55.720 know that works every time. Yeah, exactly right, Brandon, exactly. 273 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:57.400 You know, Kevin, I'd love to hear your story. You told me 274 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.359 four about you should tell you our listeners, the An Eastwood story, the 275 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:04.240 one that's not for kids. Oh yes, yeah. I was working with 276 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:11.119 a very dear friend of mine, Toby Toby Stevens, who is Dave Maggie 277 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.400 Smith's son, really nice chap, known him for years and I was doing 278 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:19.480 a job with him, and I'd just seen him in a film called Space 279 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:26.240 Cowboys playing a young Clint Eastwood because he physically looked quite like him, but 280 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:30.920 they chose him even though he was British. So I said, oh great. 281 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.200 You know, did you get any tips from Clint about how to be 282 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.160 a young Clint Eastwood? He said. I braved it up and I went 283 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:41.119 at the reads and I said, Clint, can you give me any tips 284 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:45.079 on how to play the young you? And Clint said, yeah, sure 285 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:49.599 kid, He said, whatever you say, whatever you do, just be 286 00:20:49.720 --> 00:20:56.000 thinking fuck you. That's how you play me. And you look at him 287 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.440 and you go, that's absolutely right. Yeah, because he can say, 288 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:06.880 Hi there, how are you doings across? Oh good, Yeah, it's 289 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:11.559 a lovely story. Yeah, that'd make a good tattoo. Yeah, whatever 290 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:14.599 you do and whatever you think, whatever you do and whatever you say, 291 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:19.079 just think fuck you. Yeah. You developed the US accent? Was it 292 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:22.640 an easy one to pick out? What is the most challenging accent to try 293 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:27.720 and pick up? The interesting thing is I started out in theater doing New 294 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:33.599 American plays and it was at one point that a friend, an American friend 295 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:36.079 of mine, came up to me and said he said, listen, Kevin, 296 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:37.960 you're doing these plays from all over America, and you always use a 297 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.720 New York accent. He said, You've got to You've got to find another 298 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.440 accent. So it was that point that I was then about to do Glengarry 299 00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:48.839 Glenn Ross playing Ricky Roma in the West End. So I purposely tried to 300 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.799 learn a Chicago accent. And I found out that learning a Midwest accent is 301 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:59.559 a great starting place. But the advantage we as English actors had was that 302 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:04.759 we grew up totally immersed in American movies, which isn't the case the opposite 303 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:10.400 way around. So I grew up just with the movies. Those are the 304 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:14.319 accents I heard, and when we played in the playground, we played in 305 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:18.920 you know, varying degrees of competent American accents. But so it's been with 306 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:25.359 me all my life, really, and I certainly I tell you what I 307 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:30.000 did find challenging. I played a role a few years back of a guy 308 00:22:30.039 --> 00:22:33.920 from Boston, and I had to work really hard on that because I found 309 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:41.160 it immensely difficult to earn a Northeast Coast accent that wasn't New York yet. 310 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:44.359 Yeah, you're right, about that. That's a it's a mish marsh. 311 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:48.880 It's really tricky. Yeah, I agree, there's very strange ours in it 312 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:52.799 as well. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, trying to conjure it ver 313 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:56.480 well. I'm fascinated by ac since. In fact, I was appalled by 314 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.599 our Prime Minister in England the other day, who is, as you probably 315 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:06.200 know, a very wealthy, posh millionaire. He's always claiming that he came 316 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.680 from a sort of a poor background, and so somebody said to him, 317 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:11.880 so, why do you talk so partial? He said, well, my 318 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.359 parents told me if I wanted to get along, I shouldn't have an accent. 319 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:19.759 And I thought the very idea that you think you don't have an accent 320 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:27.480 when you talk like this is just ludicrous and shows a real ignorance about culture. 321 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:30.480 You know, Yeah, it sure does, really does. He thinks 322 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:37.960 he is the neutral start for all cultures. Arrogant to say the very least. 323 00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:41.920 He should have went straight to Cartney. He should have done and then 324 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:48.759 said you're all at the end. Hello, I'm governing you all, and 325 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:53.160 I'm doing it very badly. Jim, what's your favorite British accent? My 326 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:59.559 favorite British as probably Liverpool Yeah, who's that little old man? Then? 327 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:02.839 Yeah, they're very clean, isn't he? Yeah, it's very clean, 328 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:07.319 very clean. Yeah, And I always tried to figure around why are they 329 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:11.759 saying then when? Because you know, who's that little old man? Then 330 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:15.839 when? Then? You know, I mean what does that mean? Yeah, 331 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:17.920 no, it's a weird one. It's weird. You get a lot 332 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:22.799 of that though in the Liverpool accent. I grew up in a place called 333 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:26.839 Birmingham, so I do a perfect Birmingham accent as well. And my family 334 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.119 is Irish, so my Irish is pretty perfect. In fact, the greatest 335 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:34.759 compliment I ever gone was I went over to Ireland to play an irishman. 336 00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:38.440 I was very glad that they cast me as that that happens less and less, 337 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:44.119 but the lighting cameraman I thought, well, I'll keep the accent the 338 00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:48.160 whole time because I really I've got to be perfect. I'm with a lot 339 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:51.599 of Irish actors and I know them very well and I don't want to, 340 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:53.279 you know, pop out and they're thinking, why is this brick playing an 341 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:57.880 Irishman. So about a year later, I'm back in England doing a British 342 00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:04.039 film and I lighting cameraman comes over and is watching me, and he comes 343 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:07.559 up to me at one point and says, Kevin, I've got to tell 344 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:12.759 you, your English accent is fucking terrible. That's better than a compliment. 345 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:18.640 It's better than a compliment, isn't it. That really is Yeah, fucking 346 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:21.920 terrible English accent. Well I got it from my parents. Yeah, blame 347 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:25.759 them and where I grew up. Yeah, that's good stuff. It's good 348 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:29.359 stuff. Yeah, you can't beat that. You can't. Wow, Well, 349 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:33.240 your parents are responsible for your Gibbs voice, right, yes, absolutely, 350 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:37.359 because I mixed well, there are four people responsible for my Gibbs voice. 351 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.759 My dad's Irish accents, my mother's Bristol accent, and Dublin and Bristol 352 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.720 were the two major pirate ports in the eighteenth century. But also my favorite 353 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:49.880 comedian is a guy called Tony Hancock, and he used to do an impression 354 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:56.119 of Robert Newton in Treasure Island, and he would do it really over the 355 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.640 top like that. So I sort of mixed all four together and came up 356 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:03.160 with and slap me thrice and hand me to me, Mama, it's Jack. 357 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.720 That's what I came up with. Wow, I almost knew what you 358 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:14.599 said. That's really good. You've done this before, oh man. I 359 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:19.200 remember the first time I was ever over to Great Britain, did a tour 360 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:22.799 of all the countries and you know, and you sit there and from America 361 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.079 you know everything. I mean, you go to Texas and it takes you 362 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:30.400 three days to just drive across the damn thing. And I remember hearing that 363 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:34.880 David Niven say, well, you know, it's impossible to get two hundred 364 00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:41.680 miles away from the ocean when you're in England. Wow, that's because England 365 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:47.160 has such a Britain has such a giant footprint on the earth, and I 366 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:51.279 suspect it's because of their location. If you had to go anywhere, I 367 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.359 mean, it's the gateway to Europe, and you used to do it by 368 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:59.039 water. So if you own that gateway, you own everything. And here 369 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:02.839 they are, and there's four countries there, there's Whales or Scotland, there's 370 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.519 you know, and I've got wait a minute, yeah, and I'm going 371 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.960 in Ireland obviously. Yeah. And it's just but it's very funny because growing 372 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:15.119 up, you know, since I've lived here a lot, and particularly at 373 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.279 the conventions, people say I just drove six hours to get down here just 374 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:19.759 to get your autograph. And I think that's really nice if you think you 375 00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:22.200 very much. But the idea that you're hop in your car and drive for 376 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.839 six hours. When I was a kid we used to go on a holiday. 377 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:29.480 It took about one hour and forty five minutes. My dad either would 378 00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.759 be food in the car, there would be water, he would he would 379 00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:34.759 have he'd been under the hood for an hour. Yeah, you know, 380 00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:40.000 no stopping. It was like that was a major journey. It was to 381 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.240 get to the coast. Sure, sure, yeah, wow, that's so 382 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.440 true. Now did you go down where? Was it not? Not? 383 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:49.599 Where'd everybody go at the south of England for the for the ocean? It 384 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:55.039 was, well, it depends Brighton. Brighton, that's right, is the 385 00:27:55.079 --> 00:28:02.880 major go to coastal town for London. Certainly. I started my career filming 386 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.680 a TV show called Poldoc in the seventies and we filmed that in Cornwall that 387 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.160 I've never been to. And that's a beautiful place to go. Well, 388 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.480 it's a beautiful place. It's described as a very boring picture in a beautiful 389 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:21.920 frame. That's because it's fantastic coast and then it's just more Michael York was 390 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:25.160 from there, I believe, right, I think he was. Yeah. 391 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.640 I worked with him once. He went on and on about it, and 392 00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:33.480 I just had my first trip to England. So he was very, very 393 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.319 excited and did you go to store on the Wall And I said, yes, 394 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:38.400 I did, and he goes, okay, then you were there. 395 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:42.359 Yeah, so I got credit. Well, the other way around for me 396 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:48.680 is that English people are very ignorant about the United States, and you know, 397 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.839 they'll say, oh, what's weird because Americans are too well, well 398 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.240 there is some truth in that, but they you know, they'll say, 399 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:57.319 they'll say, so, what's America like? And I said, well, 400 00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.599 it's like asking what Europe's like. So you know, yeah, many different 401 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:04.200 places I've been to America and I always go, let me guess Orlando. 402 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:10.160 Yeah, that's where I went. Yeah. Yeah, so it's the main 403 00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:14.000 place people go. Yeah. Yeah, so it sounds like cartoon characters, 404 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.519 Yeah, very much. Yeah. Well I have a question for you, 405 00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:19.440 Kevin. Yeah, going back to mister Gibbs, I heard a story that 406 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.400 you initially weren't even going to go to the audition for that role. Is 407 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.079 true, that's absolutely right? Yeah, can you tell that story? I 408 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:32.400 had been going up for roles in America movies for ten years and I never 409 00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:33.359 got them, and I just it was a waste of time. And it 410 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:38.119 was my birthday and I was sitting in the back garden sunny day with some 411 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:42.319 friends, getting drunk basically, and one of them said, aren't you supposed 412 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.559 to be going to an audition for a film today? And I said, 413 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.519 yeah, but it's an American film. I'll never get it. You know, 414 00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:49.200 it's no good. They said, well you should try. You know, 415 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.839 it's a ticket in the lottery. And I said, well, it 416 00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.839 doesn't mean I'm drunk now, and the other friend said, as far as 417 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.480 I remember, it wasn't it for a pirate? I said yes. He 418 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.599 said, what, it doesn't matter how bloody drunk you are, drive you 419 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:02.839 come on, I'll drive you. So I went along and got off of 420 00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:04.519 the park the next day. So, wow, I'm really glad that they 421 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:08.119 made me that they made me go, that's not bad now. The thing 422 00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:14.319 that had really pissed me off before was that I was on a bus going 423 00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:22.680 to an audition for Spider Man to play the Green Goblin, right, And 424 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.440 I actually got off the bus and came home because I thought this is adiiculous. 425 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:30.480 And I actually said to a friend, whoever the guy who played it 426 00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.359 was, I said, I bet they get that guy to do it, 427 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.400 And sure enough, a week later it was Willem Dafoe gone role. You 428 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:37.519 know, I mean, I I know that, you know I'm going to 429 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.799 choose William Dafoe to play the Green Goblin over me, But they weren't going 430 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.480 to choose William Dafoe to play mister Gibbs over me. So that's right, 431 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.119 glad, I went, Yeah, that was a career, right, Oh 432 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:55.559 completely. I mean I had I had done what young actors should do about 433 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.000 three times in my life, which is a reset. And I was in 434 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:04.480 the theater in about ninety seven and I was looking in the mirror playing my 435 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.759 makeup, and I thought, I guess I'll never be on the back lot 436 00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.839 of Hollywood Studio now. And I got to me all night, and I 437 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:12.960 phoned my agent the next morning. He said, I haven't done a film 438 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:17.920 in eight years. I'm not accepting any roles, but I'll do anything in 439 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:21.319 the film. And it got round and some friends. Guy put me in 440 00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.640 Spice World, and a guy put me in a film called Entrapman, and 441 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:30.079 another guy put me in a small role in mister Bean film that he was 442 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:34.640 doing, so I was back on the list. Yeah, and that's when. 443 00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:38.519 And that's when I did the Irish film with Joan Allen, so I 444 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.799 was working with more international people and so I started to get better parts, 445 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.599 and then I was on the list when mister Gibbs came up. So you 446 00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.359 have to help yourself as well. I think you can't just drift on and 447 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.000 I hope things will happen. You have to see where the little holes are 448 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.160 or where the floors are, and how can you make that better? You 449 00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.319 know, how can you make yourself more employable? Yeah, well that's good 450 00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:00.599 advice for Yeah the folks come up. Yeah, no, absolutely, And 451 00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.759 I liked that because more and more as I've got older over the last ten 452 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.160 years, I teach a lot more now. And I work with a particularly 453 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:13.960 good company called Real Scene, where I direct their final films because they come 454 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.680 out of it with a show, real professional photographs and a short film that 455 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:22.920 they're staring. So it's a really nice little package that they get and I 456 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:25.400 love that. They just give me a crew and a cast and a script 457 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:29.200 and they say, oh wow, shoot that, and I have absolutely comp's 458 00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:34.240 lovely. It's really good time. Yeah, and last year it was great 459 00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:37.079 because it was quite a big group. So we did four related sci fi 460 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:43.759 shorts, and sci fi is my genre love so much. In fact, 461 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:47.680 if I mentioned my book yet, I know tell us more. I have 462 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:51.759 written a sci fi book called Sons of Soul. Get it on Amazon, 463 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:58.799 that's all, No, Sol sol Son. Oh okay, so getting on 464 00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:00.920 Amazon very cheap, very cheap. If you ever bring it to a convention, 465 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:05.079 I'll sign it for you. That won't be very cheap. But yeah, 466 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.039 right, I'd love to see you all. Let me see y'all. 467 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.480 That's right, that's right, boy. That was weird. It was as 468 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.559 if Michael Kaine was in the room. I have one more question for you 469 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:20.480 about Pirates of the Caribbean. Okay. I heard that during the filming of 470 00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.920 the last Pirates of the Caribbean, the fifth one, that Johnny Depp was 471 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:27.400 kind of out of his element and had to be fed his lines through an 472 00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.119 ear piece under his wig. Can you verify of that's true? It isn't 473 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:37.160 true. Johnny always has an earpiece under his wig because he has a man 474 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:44.359 in his trailer feeding him music all the time in between takes and the it's 475 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.599 really interest because if you if you go up and talk to Johnny, he'll 476 00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:50.759 give a little tap, says. You get the guy to turn the music 477 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:52.400 down and talk to you, and then he's back on it again listening to 478 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.599 the music because he's an absolute he's an absolute whale for music. He just 479 00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.359 eats it like fucking Plankton. You know, he's a hell of a guitar 480 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.119 player. Oh, he's wonderful. Yeah, he's amazing. I was very 481 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:07.440 disappointed. I got tickets to go and see him at the Hollywood the Hollywood 482 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:12.920 Vampires at the O two Arena, and I was filming and we ran over 483 00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.760 like I couldn't get there. So I missed seeing him. But I will 484 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:19.679 get to see those people one day. I did. I did meet Alice 485 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.960 Cooper at a convention. He was a heck of a nice guy. I 486 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.719 golfed with him once, did you really? Yeah? Yeah, he golfs 487 00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:28.800 out in more Park. Yeah. And he was talking a lot about golfing, 488 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:32.880 big golfing. Yeah, I know he's I remember I met him a 489 00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:36.599 few times and he goes, well, people think I'm you know, and 490 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:42.119 of course he's saying this with the vampire eyes on the makeup and he goes. 491 00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.559 People think I'm you know, Vincent Price, but I'm really more like 492 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:52.280 Fred McMurray. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so fascinated by this 493 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.039 concept though, that he listens to music between takes. Is that for his 494 00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:00.000 enjoyment or does he somehow use that to get into characters? I think probably 495 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:05.760 not so much getting to character, but I think he doesn't necessarily want You 496 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:12.280 can on set very often be distracted by small talk and chats, and you 497 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:16.079 will notice I notice it that when I'm on set, being an older man 498 00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:20.239 now, I tend to keep to myself and I've got my iPad and I've 499 00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.559 got stuff and I can carry them through the day. And a lot of 500 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.880 the younger people are busy telling stories and having a great time, and they're 501 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:28.920 exhausted by the end of the day. They don't have the energy for that 502 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.840 final scene. And so I think that's part of his reasoning too, that 503 00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:36.039 he doesn't want to get too much involved in chit chatting, you know, 504 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:42.079 so he keeps concentrated as he keeps keeps himself distracted by the music and not 505 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:45.239 by you know, a myriad of things that people are throwing at him. 506 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:49.519 That's fascinating to me. Wow. I heard the George C. Scott was 507 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:55.760 speaking to that angle. He he would sit around smoking cigars with the crew, 508 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.679 playing cards non stop, nod stop right up or two and action. 509 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:04.599 Then he would take a star out and then walk on and then just be 510 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.360 absolutely in the scene, you know. And I was like, wow, 511 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:12.840 I mean it's like turns off a on and off a light switch. Which, 512 00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:16.559 yeah, well, I remember once having the great honor of working with 513 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:22.119 Robert Duval and we had this little singing in a corridor together and it was 514 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.039 quite intense. And I said to it and said, I hope you don't 515 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.840 mind me saying, but I really thought you might be a bit more method 516 00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:30.719 than this might be a more difficult day. But you seem to turn it 517 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.639 on and off like many other actors. And he said, tell you one 518 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.800 thing, kid, if you haven't got in your pocket, you can't pull 519 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:39.039 it out. And I thought, what a great piece of advice for an 520 00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:43.639 actor. It's got to be there ready, yeah, you know, so 521 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.719 that you can just haven't got it in your pocket, you can't pull it 522 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:51.000 out. Wow. Really good, really good advice. It's very much like 523 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:52.199 a voice acting, isn't it, Jim. You can just snap into the 524 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.559 voices whenever you feel like it. You don't need a method, really, 525 00:36:54.559 --> 00:37:00.199 do you. Yeah. Yeah, Well we're schizophrenic and we are too, 526 00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:04.000 so it's it helps, you know. I've never even thought about it. 527 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.360 People have told me that before, and I don't. Yeah, I think 528 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:13.159 it's I think it comes from my childhood, you know. I thought mel 529 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:16.880 Blank was amazing and all these different things, and I did impressions of my 530 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:21.880 family. And one of the first things I did when I came to LA 531 00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.199 was to go to see Meil Blank's tombstone. Oh yeah, how about that? 532 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:31.639 But talking about yeah, that's all folks, But talking to that thing 533 00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:37.000 about you know, preparational being ready. I was talking to a fellow actor 534 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:42.360 about this, who works on an American show with a rather methody American actor, 535 00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.000 and he said something very insightful to me. He said, the problem 536 00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:51.079 is because his preparation is the same and very intense. His performance is completely 537 00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:55.400 the same all the time. There's no variety. Can't surprise himself because he's 538 00:37:55.480 --> 00:38:00.880 he's stuck there in this method. I mean, just whatever his method is. 539 00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.760 I don't know whether it's method, but you know he's he's stuck there 540 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.719 and he can't do it unless he does that. So I think you should 541 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:12.039 be able to surprise yourself. That's a good way to put it. It's 542 00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:14.039 a really good way to put it. Yeah, I think so. Have 543 00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:20.239 you ever surprised yourself with a voice. It's not so much surprising yourself with 544 00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.960 a voice which you look prepared, but surprise yourself with the journey through the 545 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.119 scene. You know that you might not have guessed that something that the other 546 00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.039 person says makes you angry, and so you do the rest of the scene 547 00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:36.559 angry with him. You might not have even thought of that until it happens. 548 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.000 Because what people who often get a mussed in a method do is that 549 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.119 it doesn't take any account into what the other people are doing, because they're 550 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:46.360 just deciding on what they're going to do in advance that they come in and 551 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:49.440 you go, well, that's true, I might as well not be here. 552 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.760 You know, you've just got your ship worked down. Yeah, well, 553 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.159 acting is a lot. A lot of acting is reacting. I think 554 00:38:55.199 --> 00:39:00.480 most of me is reacting. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Yeah. You 555 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:05.079 got to stay nimble. You gotta stay nimble. You gotta stay trim well. 556 00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:09.519 I think that's what it's impact because you can't react to people in the 557 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:13.599 same room, you know. That's I think that's what's But that's where your 558 00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.159 imagination comes in, I imagine. I think a lot of what you're saying 559 00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:22.239 comes from your hit your background in theater, because you've done a performance on 560 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:23.800 stage so many times. It's kind of I don't know, at least to 561 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:28.039 me. It's the fun part where you get to play those little games within 562 00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.360 the performance, you know, but also what the theater teaches you is to 563 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:34.760 turn up really, really well prepared. Yeah. So I always say to 564 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.079 my students, be well prepared and then flexible on the day. But because 565 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:43.039 those foundation that foundation work you've done, even the director doesn't like it, 566 00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.639 once you do something totally different, that foundation work still is there for you. 567 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:50.280 You'll just go off it another way, that's all. So it's it's 568 00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:53.519 yeah, that's definitely the two months awards I have for my students. Yeah, 569 00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:58.639 that's that's great. And how often do you do classes? As often 570 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.519 as I can? I have a friend I teach it will see maybe I 571 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:07.239 direct three times a year there and in between whenever i'm free this guy who 572 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:13.360 does these classes for anybody who wants to come, very inexpensively. He'll just 573 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:15.320 phone me up and say can you do one on Tuesday, and I say, 574 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.320 yeah, i'll be They just tell me the venue and it's really nice. 575 00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:21.960 I've got very friendly with those bunch of people, and all of them 576 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.360 are very much for people who work and make a living and have to try 577 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:30.239 to fit the classes in around that. So the real scene for instances only 578 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:35.079 at the weekends, and Paul will do his things at nighttime. So it's 579 00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:37.480 for people who are you know, are out there. They're grown ups, 580 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.360 they're in the world and they want to or in some cases people who may 581 00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.239 be retired ten years ago and think, hit, I want to go back 582 00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:45.800 into it again. I'll go and take some refreshers, you know. Yeah. 583 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:51.519 Yeah, oh absolutely, well you're never You're never too old, No 584 00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:57.199 exactly, Yeah, why why resire? I'll take the money. Yeah yeah, 585 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:00.960 yeah, I mean I'm not stupid, yeah, but but yeah, 586 00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:06.159 no, you know, I'm still in granddads. I'm fully prepared to go 587 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.400 to great great granddads. I don't mind. If I live long enough, 588 00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:13.320 it'll be great, no kidding. Wow, did you learn anything from Johnny 589 00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:19.559 Depp working with him over across the various films. Yeah, I did both. 590 00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:25.079 He and Tom Cruise I worked with in the early two thousands, and 591 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:30.039 I had always been the sort of English actor who if I made a mistake, 592 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.559 I stopped and started again, and I learned keep going, keep going. 593 00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.320 There is such a thing as editing, you know, just keep going, 594 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:38.360 pick it up, pick it up a sentence back, go with it, 595 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.840 go with it, don't lose the energy, don't start again, and 596 00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.960 then don't stop building up going. Oh I'm going to fuck up. I'm 597 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.880 going to fuck up. Just keep it flowing and going and keep reacting to 598 00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:50.639 the people because the camera's picking it all up and it's all going to be 599 00:41:50.679 --> 00:41:52.920 useful in the edit. Hm. That's good. I look from those two, 600 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:57.519 that's good advice right there. Yeah, yeah, well he would know. 601 00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.880 Tom Cruisers. I think he's underrated actor. Actually, yeah, well 602 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:07.519 he's a judged actor, isn't he. Yeah he's a pigeonhole. Yeah, 603 00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:12.800 he's a little he's a little too successful for people to think he's good. 604 00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:15.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just no. He was a pleasure to 605 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:20.679 work with, absolute pleasure. What did you work with him on a film 606 00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.920 called Valkyrie. Okay, yeah about the attempt to Yes, yeah, nice 607 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:28.960 film, Yeah, yeah, I thought so. Yeah. We were just 608 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.880 talking about his performance in Tropic Thunder. Oh yeah, yeah, brilliant. 609 00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:36.039 Yeah, he's not a character actor. We don't get any more character than 610 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.920 that, No, that is for sure. Yeah, brilliant. Another underrated 611 00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:43.039 movie. Just on a little tangent about tom Cruise that I thought he was 612 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.920 so underrated and was the Edge of Tomorrow. Did you ever see that movie? 613 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:47.760 Sci fi movie? It's one of my favorite movies all time. I 614 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.199 know Angela Riseberg very well. She played my daughter on stage a couple of 615 00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.800 times, I think, and I thought that was a great film, and 616 00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:57.039 you know, just a two hander. I mean it was just amazing, 617 00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.000 absolutely amazing. Yeah. Yeah, well it's my genre sci fi as well. 618 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:04.599 So yeah, I was told you about my book. You can pick 619 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.239 up very cheap on Amazon. Now, what's the name of it again, 620 00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:09.400 Sons of Soul. Oh, well, there you have it. Yeah, 621 00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:13.360 it's almost like as a link for in the description of this podcast. Yes, 622 00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:19.719 they might be. They better, Ben, Oh, that's good stuff. 623 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.400 What are some of his favorite sci fi films growing up? Well, 624 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.360 the greatest one two thousand and one of Space Odyssey, of course, A 625 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:29.280 Planet of the Apes. I'm really into hard science fiction, you know, 626 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:34.360 and my book is very much an homage to the to the golden age of 627 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:38.280 science fiction, Robert Heinlein, Isaac Asimov, Arthur C. Clark, you 628 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:45.920 know, good world building, proper science, no fantasy. So those those 629 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:49.079 are the films that I love. But I even love going back. I 630 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:53.159 suppose I got suckered into it when they were repeating all those fifties George Powell 631 00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:58.119 films on un British television in the sixties, so you know, Destination Moon 632 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.159 and things like that was wonderfu well people. It's been put forth that Isaac 633 00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:07.199 Asimov basically designed the lunar landing module when they did land on the Moon. 634 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:13.559 Yeah, in I don't remember the book, but they said, well, 635 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.199 you know, they had to make it as a tripod and it had to 636 00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:22.679 have shock absorbing to it, just because I mean, and then people with 637 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.039 I don't know, twenty years later, twenty years later there was a tripod. 638 00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.599 There was one. You know, it's landing and it's going like that 639 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:32.480 because uneven terrain, uneven terrain, you don't know what the trend is going 640 00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:37.000 to be like, well, they say that science fiction always precedes science fact. 641 00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:42.599 Yeah, absolutely so. I think the other great thing about science fiction 642 00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.320 wasn't And Stephen Fry, if you know who he is, was very kind 643 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:49.280 enough to write a little bit of blurb on my book and he said, 644 00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:55.880 like all great science fiction futuristic stories tell us more about today, about heroism, 645 00:44:55.960 --> 00:45:00.239 love, adventure, and the world we live in today, but it 646 00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.440 does it in a very ornate way. I think that's a really nice description 647 00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.320 of what science fiction is. Yes, well, I'm a sci fi guy. 648 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:13.199 That was one of my Yeah. Do you know the most wonderful thing 649 00:45:13.239 --> 00:45:17.199 happened when I finally got my book published and I sent it this guy and 650 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.000 he was a designer, And the designer came back to me and said, 651 00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:27.440 I've just found out that the image of the spaceman running on the front of 652 00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:32.639 the original Have Spacesuit Will Travel has just come into the public domain. Would 653 00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:36.320 you like it on the front of your book? And I said, damn 654 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.760 straight, I would like it on the book. So that's like a link 655 00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:44.480 right back to the Golden age, you know, having that image, and 656 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.159 it's an image you'll instantly recognize if you yes, with the rounded helmet, 657 00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:52.000 Yeah, that's right, and the tanks and he's running like that, he's 658 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.079 running. Yes, Oh wow, that's awesome. Yeah. I don't even 659 00:45:55.159 --> 00:46:00.119 use that word awesome, so yeah, because it's everyone uses it, so 660 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:05.880 I don't. Well, it's it's it's gone into the background with placement words. 661 00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.920 Nowadays, if I sit in another restaurant with somebody saying, like every 662 00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:14.719 four seconds, I'm going to thump somebody out, yeah, thank you, 663 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.440 I like don't like that either. I like don't like it, like like 664 00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.119 you know, when you don't like something. Yeah, I'm like that. 665 00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:27.480 Oh that's one of my pet peeves too. I can't tell you how get 666 00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.800 a lot of that out here? Oh yeah you do. Yeah, unbelievable. 667 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:34.920 West Coast, I think is thinking yeah, exactly and your choice and 668 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.840 thoughts and yeah, I also am a little bit annoyed, annoyed by the 669 00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:43.519 output inflection and everything. Doesn't that drive you crazy? I don't know what 670 00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:45.880 you're talking about? No, do you know what I'm saying? Though not 671 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:50.960 really really, Like I'm seeing that people go up at the end of everything, 672 00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:52.199 as if they're not quite sure it's a statement, but think they want 673 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:57.599 to make it a question like you know, oh yeah, somebody is going 674 00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.920 to get their face filled. Oh yeah, god, one of my pet 675 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:05.000 peeks. That's like the Valley accent, rightly pretty much value. It is 676 00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.480 the value, I guess, and it just drives. It's meaningless. It's 677 00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:14.440 just it might as well be like saying that I'm stupid. Yeah, because 678 00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:19.960 you sounded I like how whenever anybody does that accent too, you always have 679 00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:23.079 to put on a female voice. You always just slightly shift into a field. 680 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:30.440 Yeah that's true, that's true. But have you ever been interviewed by 681 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:32.360 somebody who was using or speaking that way and it just distracts you to the 682 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.840 point where you don't even realize what they've been saying anymore if you get diferent 683 00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.880 answered the question, have you ever had interviewers that it is so distracting with 684 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:45.199 the way they speak. Yes, yeah, I got interviewed by one guy 685 00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.199 who, after everything I said, he'd go, oh, fair enough, 686 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:52.119 fair enough anything. Can you think of another thing to say when I've given 687 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:55.239 you answer to your question? Yes, yeah, I know it's sort of 688 00:47:55.239 --> 00:48:00.360 a begrudging yeah, well that'll do sort of yeah, yeah, fair enough 689 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:05.360 boy, Yeah, that's what It's really downputting, isn't it. Yeah? 690 00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.039 Fair enough? Are you sure? Yeah? You know what. I'm gonna 691 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.239 give you a minute, think about it. Yeah, get back to me. 692 00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:19.800 Yeah, and then we can see, yeah, where people are just 693 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.400 giving us the finger on mass or what about my mother tox? Exactly like 694 00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:28.199 that. Yeah, and yeah, we just last about a half our audience. 695 00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.159 Well, you know what. Fair enough, fair enough, fair dudes, 696 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.880 I don't want him anywhere. You mentioned thumping people in a bar earlier, 697 00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.480 if they speak that way. If you found any good pubs in the 698 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:44.920 in the US, well no, is the simple answer that because I don't 699 00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:50.519 particularly like pubs anyway. I like a really classy bar. And whenever I 700 00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:53.519 go past the bar and there's no seats at the bar, I always say 701 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:57.519 what I put my head in and I say, what a waste of a 702 00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.679 bar, and then I straight off before they can get me. So I 703 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:07.239 really like a classy lowlit joint, but preferably playing you know, some Sinatra 704 00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:12.360 piano, nice wine and then and that's the way I like to Chidren, 705 00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:16.760 that's I like that. I like that. I can't There is a British 706 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:22.760 pub in Santa Monica and there's one thousand oaks, and it's one of thousand 707 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:28.719 oaks. The one what I like is next door to the British pub in 708 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:35.280 Santa Monica, and it's on Santa Monica Piano. No, not here the 709 00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:39.559 main Broadway boulevards, thank you. The boulevard is not that and bad. 710 00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.719 They've they've got a shop to it next all that sells English products that you 711 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.519 can't get. But of course, the one English product you can't get here 712 00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:52.440 is a beef extract called bovrel. And even they're not allowed to import it 713 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.639 because you can import beef products between England and America. I don't know, 714 00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:01.000 but we did not know that. It's true. Wow, So you're not 715 00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:06.960 even allowed to import a beef extract spread. Oh wow, I didn't know 716 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:12.679 that. Learned something new that mad. I think it was probably inspired by 717 00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:15.800 Yeah, when we had the mad cow disease, what twenty eight years ago, 718 00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:17.960 whatever it was. It's what my wife, she's British, she still 719 00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:21.280 not allowed to donate blood and a strya because she was in the country at 720 00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:22.719 that point in time. Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, I've heard 721 00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:29.000 that. Wow, it's extraordinary. That's not fair. Getting back to Pirates 722 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.719 though, Yes, has Jeffrey Rush ever forgiven you for stealing his voice? 723 00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:37.360 I started it. I was first. I was first, and he turned 724 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:39.599 to me and he said, God, damn it, that's the voice I 725 00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:45.840 was going to use. And so we decided. I said to him, 726 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:49.480 well, look, if anybody notices, we'll try not to speak next to 727 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:51.800 each other. And I think there was a time when we spoke and then 728 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:53.079 they gave up and just said, yeah, i've scenes together for fakes. 729 00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:57.800 But I said, I always say my accent comes from the fact that my 730 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.360 dad's Irish and mother from Bristol, So you just say your dad's from Bristol 731 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:04.440 and your mother from Ireland, and it's a completely different accident, and that's 732 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:09.079 what he tells people. You got a down pat Yeah, very good. 733 00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:12.719 Well you also played Gibbs in the games. Did you have to take a 734 00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.519 different approach to the character when you're doing for video games because you didn't have 735 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:16.840 actors that had sort of bounce off or no. I'll tell you a funny 736 00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:21.519 story about that though, because the first game came out and I had nothing 737 00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:23.719 to do with it, and I thought even asked me to do the voice, 738 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:27.159 and I was speaking to a friend of mine who's a voice actor, 739 00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.679 And I said, do you know do you know the name of the voice 740 00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.119 actor who's done mister Gibbs in the game. He said, yeah, yeah, 741 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.719 he's a friend of mine. I said, have you got his number? 742 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:37.320 I said yeah. I said, will you dial it for me? 743 00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:42.639 And he died it. I got the phone and I said, in my 744 00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.800 best Liam Nissen, I said, if you do mister Gibbs again, I 745 00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:52.599 will find you and your family and I will kill you all. Anyway, 746 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:54.760 the next game. The next game, they've phoned me and asked me to 747 00:51:54.760 --> 00:52:01.159 do the voice. Oh that's good stuff. Oh man, okay, so 748 00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:06.199 that's the key. Yeah. Violence is always the key. Yes, yeah, 749 00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.679 violence and threats. They were threatening to replace me eons ago for Winnie 750 00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:19.079 the Pooh and I said, no, I wish you would try, Thank 751 00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:20.599 you. I was, I was going to ask you to do that. 752 00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:27.920 It's not going to be pretty if you've never been bounced like you're getting ready 753 00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:32.280 to be bounced. Don't make me light my butt. Wait, that's Ray 754 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:40.119 from Princess and yeah, right, fantastic. Well something that used to get 755 00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:45.400 me kicked out of class? Was it crazy? Crazy? Crazy? Yeah? 756 00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:49.760 I mean, just for the record, I had a teacher throw me 757 00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:53.360 up against the locker and because I was in speech tournaments and I would do 758 00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:59.519 pretty well. Yeah, you know and uh a teacher who used to date 759 00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:02.519 a cousin. Mind so they lived across the streets, so she you know, 760 00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:07.599 I knew him from his relationship with her. And I'm sure I was 761 00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:10.239 annoying as a seven year old, and there I was as a fifteen year 762 00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:14.320 old, and he goes, let me tell you something. Comings you're going 763 00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.000 to work in the steel mail for sixty five years, then you're going to 764 00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:22.239 retire and lose money on the Cleveland Browns and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay, 765 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:25.360 so I got you, you and your little voices. He can get out 766 00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:30.480 of here. So I sort of ended up giving him the finger in a 767 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:36.360 spiritual and mental way. They said so similar amount. I had this digit 768 00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:40.400 biology teacher. Yeah, and don't you find that that people down playing you 769 00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:44.280 telling you to shut up and sit in the corner. Oh, you're going 770 00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:46.639 to pay for that. We're going to brag. You know me, I'm 771 00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:51.480 a bit of a chatterboo because you may notice us check And I remember once 772 00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:57.079 you said to me McNally. McNally, you're never going to amount to anything, 773 00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:02.440 now, shut up. And I remember thinking, yeah, yeah, 774 00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:07.599 see that that amounts to inspiration. Absolutely, I didn't respond to you know 775 00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:14.840 what if you put your head into it, if you put your shoulder to 776 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:20.400 the wheel, your nostril on the grindstone or whatever, all those cliches, 777 00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:23.280 and like, no, I'll just have a sore nose. Yeah that's all. 778 00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:29.920 Yeah. Yeah's blood everywhere? Yeah, the blood exactly right. Yeah, 779 00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:32.599 so yeah, yeah, well you know, revenge is supposedly the best. 780 00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:37.719 Yeah, it's the best. Best revenge is the best success of the 781 00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:42.199 best revenge? Yeah? Absolutely? Is that what happened to you? Brenda 782 00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:45.639 always? But I'm actually sitting here, you poob be follen, I'm thinking, 783 00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:47.480 what would a conversation between Gibbs and Pooh sound like? That's I was 784 00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:52.159 trying to vision in my head. Right now, we can find out. 785 00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:57.199 Do you have a smackle of honey about you? We don't tend to keep 786 00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:00.440 honey on the ship, mister Pooh, But if you behave of yourself, 787 00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:04.239 I might let you have a mackerel. Later, a smackerel, you'll get 788 00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:06.679 a smack. Get rude to me? Again, mister pooh, now get 789 00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:13.039 back to scrubbing that deck. Ay, ay, sir, he's a good 790 00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:20.440 lad Winnie. We could really take that down into a terrible, terrible place. 791 00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:22.840 We really could. Yeah. I was about to go there, but 792 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:28.800 yeah, no terrible to you later in me? Can yeah? All right? 793 00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:32.440 Can everybody right? That's it? All right? Oh? Good stuff? 794 00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:37.000 Sort of. We on this podcast we usually do a voice swap since 795 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:40.639 we kind of just just did it here, And how it works is Jim 796 00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:45.000 will do a voice or a line of one of his characters, and then 797 00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.639 would you mind doing that same line as mister Gibbs of course, and then 798 00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:51.519 we can do vice versa. Yes, I think we should start with dark 799 00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:53.360 Wing. What do you think about that? Okay, sure, dark Wing 800 00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.880 duck You might know him, you might not, but he is yeah, 801 00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:00.159 he's uh, he's coming back. So I hope I didn't let the cat 802 00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:06.199 out of the bag too late. Anyway. I am the terror that flaps 803 00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:10.039 in the night. I am the terror that flaps in the night. Wow. 804 00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:14.199 Yes, okay, So I will do one now for you, and 805 00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.119 you've got to do it as a duck wing. Yeah, dark Wing or 806 00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:21.079 dark Wing Okay, dark Wing. It is. It's my favorite line. 807 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:25.079 Slap me thrice and hand me to me mama. It's jack. Slap me 808 00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:30.920 thrice and hand me to my mama. It's quack jack. Sorry, sorry, 809 00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:37.519 excellence. That's good stuff. Yeah great, oh man, who has 810 00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:38.840 more fun than us? Yeah? And we get paid for this, by 811 00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:45.440 the way, Yeah no we don't really, but but man, this is 812 00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:46.760 the stuff that used to get you kick out of class too, right Oh 813 00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:52.119 yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, to make people laugh. Yeah, 814 00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.880 life is good. Yeah, the pearls of my jacket were always the first 815 00:56:55.880 --> 00:57:00.719 to go get out there. Now. Oh yeah, that's true. Now 816 00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:04.559 you you had uniforms and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I 817 00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.480 went to what we call a grammar school, so it was old boys and 818 00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:13.079 we were all in uniform and it was pretty rotten place to be really yeah 819 00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:16.440 yeah yeah, especially without girls, especially without girls. Yeah that didn't help. 820 00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:20.800 Yeah. Oh man, I went to one of those in fifth and 821 00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:22.360 sixth grade, and I actually really liked the fact that there were no girls. 822 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:25.320 So really it was like, you're young, you know, it's like 823 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:28.880 a distraction. Yeah, you know, we could all rough house with each 824 00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:31.199 other. It's just later on you think, actually we were all the girls 825 00:57:31.239 --> 00:57:35.239 you know, yeah later on, Yeah, by eighth grade, you go, 826 00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:38.400 you know, yeah, exactly, we could do with a girl or 827 00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:42.719 too in this class. I didn't mean that to sound like Christopher Walker. 828 00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:47.199 You know, you have got to understand what I'm saying to you, and 829 00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:55.639 it's not misogynistic. Oh so, so what do we think are we? 830 00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:01.639 What's happening in Brandon? I think I think we're pretty good Supernatural just later, 831 00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:05.320 yeah, but a bit bit bit supernatural. Yeah. I was thinking, 832 00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:09.119 well, I'd heard that the boys were big pranksters, and so I 833 00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:13.639 thought i'd get in first. And I had a scene early on where one 834 00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:16.880 of the boys was up in this you know crane off the top of a 835 00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:20.480 off the top of a van, quite a small van, quite a big 836 00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:22.599 crane, and he was up there and he's not very good with heights, 837 00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:27.440 so I just took to booting the side of the car so he would wobble 838 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.360 up there and he'd be going, please stop. I'm saying, okay, 839 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:34.400 but no pranks from you guys, or this is going over. So I 840 00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.880 thought i'd get in there first with them. But lovely guys, lovely guys. 841 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:39.039 That was on Supernatural. Yeah, yeah, And that was shot in 842 00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:44.079 Vancouver, right, Yes, it was in Vancouver. Yeah, yeah, 843 00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.480 Yeah, It's got a lot of terrain around that can be any part of 844 00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:51.159 the States, so it's a really good place. Yeah, tons up there. 845 00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:54.280 I actually heard a story. I worked on the crew of Arrow actually 846 00:58:54.840 --> 00:58:58.920 shot up in Vancouver, and I heard a story that for pirates of the 847 00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:01.360 Caribbean, they have the BC Ferries, Right, are you familiar with those, 848 00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:05.840 the big fairies that shuttle you between all the islands and the Pacific Northwest, 849 00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:09.440 And they had one that was out of commission. So the production bought 850 00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:13.679 that ship and then they were converting it and they spent something like five or 851 00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:17.000 six million dollars converting into a pirate ship up there in Horseshoe Bay, And 852 00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:21.199 then they were going to do some reshoots on it, decided to not even 853 00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:24.679 use it and just scrapped it was And then it was really weird because on 854 00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:30.280 those reshoots they then just built the deck on land and we did it that 855 00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:34.800 way. Interesting. Yeah, interesting, I'd heard that story before. But 856 00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:37.679 what a waste. I mean, it blew my mind that you could go 857 00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:42.679 through with that much time and effort. And yeah, it was built, 858 00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:46.360 sat for two weeks and struck all within five weeks. They just incredible. 859 00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:51.239 But you know, probably for a good reason. I don't know, safety, 860 00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:54.519 maybe even I don't know. Yeah, it wasn't for money, No, 861 00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:58.719 who knows. It could have been a tax right off. You see 862 00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:02.760 how these days they're little writing off the entire movies. Entire moviesdays, you 863 01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:07.159 know. Yeah, speaking of Looney Tunes, they just scrapped the Wiley Coyote. 864 01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:14.000 There was a Wily Coyote live live action movie that guy in the works, 865 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:15.920 and they just completely scrapped the entire movie. Oh no, I'm sorry 866 01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.400 to hear that. I know. It's wild to me. I was looking 867 01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:22.519 forward to that. Yeah, me too. I would have been had I 868 01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.880 heard of it. Yeah, now I miss it. Yeah. Oh well 869 01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.280 yeah, do we get to shake hands on camera at the end. I 870 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:34.000 think we do. Well. Thank you so much, God speed and thank 871 01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:37.280 you, Jim. Thanks so it's amazing. Kevin McNally, everybody, thanks 872 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:43.480 guys, you love guys. Thank you very much. Do y'all give him 873 01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:47.639 the clap. It's been done, all right, Thank you everybody for watching. 874 01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:51.159 That was another episode of Tuned In with Jim Cummings. Today we had 875 01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:53.679 Kevin McNally Thank you so much for joining us. Please don't forget to follow 876 01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:59.280 us on all social media and you can get bonus content by twosome and you 877 01:00:59.320 --> 01:01:02.519 can get bonus content by subscribing to us on Patreon. Please drop a like 878 01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.920 and a subscribe and we'll see you in the next one. Thank you very 879 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:10.599 much. Excellent work, excellent work. Notice how he didn't stop and go 880 01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:14.559 back to the start. He just kept powering through because I know I took 881 01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:17.000 that advice right there, he's lessens. Yeah, yeah, that's right.