Speaking of buzz, this maybe has the opposite. I don't know, I'm
gonna pull up this guy's name. So we talked about this a couple of
weeks ago, and this is why we always talk about the ce Tier rumors
and stuff, because it ended up being a true rumor that they have announced
I guess not fully announced here, but it's now the s Tier scoopers are
reporting this writer for the X Men. So before I get the name here,
it's reported that. Let's see, so it's still as of right now.
Sounds like the plan is for this film still to be after Secret War.
So even though they're getting a writer. That's the other thing this report
that now they are hunting for a director, which is kind of funny because
like, well, obviously that would be the next step, right, I
would imagine. But still, I guess in the MCU world its strategy from
Disney. Yeah, I guess in the MC world, it means kind of
like, well, they're not gonna get the they're not gonna cast the X
Men first, they're gonna get the director. So it's like makes sense,
right, Like there's a couple of times they did that, but it's still
playing sounds like it's gonna be Secret Wars and it's the guy. His name
is Mike Michael Leslie. He has written which this is is on my list.
I'm gonna check it out. It's a TV show that has Florence Pugh
and hence to your name the Little Drummer girun. I did hear good things
about that. Other things he were in was last year The Hunger Games about
of songbirds and snakes. He wrote Macbeth. He also wrote Assassin's Creed and
that's about it. There's a few other things, but those are mostly short,
so those are kind of hard to gauge. And then he does have
now You See Me three coming out, so I won't see that, but
I'll have to see what other people gauge that as. And I think it's
this has been the same thing like the swift thing met. I think this
has actually been met with a lower reception because I don't think it's that it's
all wor screwed, because it's like someone pointed out today, like you can
have someone write this and then you look at their credits ten years later and
they do something great, right like look at the Rooster Brother the same thing
they had done community and you mean to pre and then they do endgame and
civil war like of course anybody can do this, but I think it's more
just that p people and you know, maybe I'm biased too, and maybe
or just the people I follow are to similar mindset. Just I think people
were kind of hoping with the X Men, we were gonna get a bit
more hootspall off the gate of like a name that would go maybe not on
our tour, maybe not like a Tarantino, but just something we're go,
oh, this is really exciting. And I feel like this is just kind
of a paint by numbers. This is what the MCU usually does is we're
just going to get a writer that has some cred you know, some good
stuff, some bad stuff, and we have to wait and see. And
that's about it, right, And that's where it's like until I get a
director, because my hope is it was gonna be like a you know,
not that it's great to say his name now, but like Avengers with Joss
Whed or like Black Panther with Coogler, where they wrote and directed. So
we got this great director that also writes, and I go, oh,
great, and who knows this guy could write the script. They could hire
a director and they could go, you know what, could I do A
passover? Of course? But for me it's it's not like a it didn't
get me jazz, and I I just think again, as I'm not trying
to be the what is that expression when it's you foretell something and you try
to make it happen. Oh, self fulfilling prophecy. I don't want to
be. But I just feel like after ninety seven, as I've said,
either almost every week, I'm just so worried now and that movie comes out,
everyone's gonna be like, well, it's not ninety seven and this thing
really sucks now, you know. I feel like that's gonna be the new
bar. And this writer doesn't get me too excited, but I'm going to
try and be as you know, confident as possible, like I guess,
for example, like I didn't love The Hungry against Me. I liked enough,
but they did write like a young cast. So he's used to writing
younger characters. And I do feel like they will write the X Men at
least some of them to be younger. So there's there's some of that.
So it's not like all bad, but it's not a name that I gets
me juicing for the potential mcux men coming up in a couple of years here.
Yeah, no, I hate to be an echo chamber on this,
especially when we don't have a kirklandor Taylor here to balance this out. But
I'm in the same similar boat as you. When I saw this guy's name
and just looked his IMDb and stuff, I was getting Jeff Loveness vibes,
you know, they oh yeah, yeah things, And then you know,
I look deeper and it's like, okay, yeah, this little Drummer Girls
show. This sounds interesting. I want to go check this out. And
I didn't even hear about this until sorry, also side tangent, I was
looking at that, you know, Florence Pugh, Michael Shannon's in there.
Alex scars guard. Have you ever seen have you seen what Alex Scarsguard's picture
is on his IMDb page. It's like the suit jacket and he's in a
boxers or whatever. Yeah, yeah, he's been asked about that. He's
a guy. I just like it, so, okay, I never does
does he choose that the agents? Do they? Well, you can like
if you're probably a younger son really weird pictures that people have, and I
assumed it was just like I guess, not quite like Wikipedia, because then
you have people trolling all the time, putting people's crazy faces in there.
But like next year when we do the like full release of Adrenic Crow,
when it's just gonna be out on VOD all the time, we'll have an
IMDb page and of course will pick the pictures. But usually once you're big
enough, you just have somebody do that for you. But uh, he
just enjoys that picture, so I love that for him. But yeah,
and even there in the chats, you're bad mic. That little drummer girl
is very very good, That's what I've heard. So that's a good sign.
Mike also a big fan of Songbirds and Snake because I can remember.
Yeah, So, uh, did you end up seeing that one? I
thought you did. I have not got around it. I think I was.
I think maybe originally was like gonna be Taylor's pick or something for the
mess. It was almost it was on the tip of my tongue, but
that I never got around to. Chrismo happened, right, So at some
point I'd like to check it out. But it's the third best Hunger Games
movie. Okay, out of five four, so it's fine. So that's
right in the middle of the pack. Take those Yeah. Yeah, So
I'm not super hopeful of this, but it is also largely an unknown quantity.
All I've seen is Assassin's Creed, which I don't know it's been like,
can you believe that came on the second year of geek first? Oh
man, Yeah, it's a long time ago. Now that a long time
ago. It was a very very long time agoing it's like, I don't
remember what I didn't like about that movie. I have to go back and
listen to our review, and I'm sure writing it had something to do with
it. But also that movie went through all sorts of I feel like development,
health things from what I can remember, so like, who knows how
much of the issues of that were strictly this guy's writing words on pages versus
all the other cogs that go into the machine course makes one of these things,
you know. So, and that was also a decade ago pretty much
to this point, so maybe he's got a lot better in that time too,
which certainly read a lot of other things. So so I don't know.
I guess I'm trying to be hopeful in this way, but it is
it is a weird movie to me to have a very question mark type pick
on there. And once again, maybe he's a question mark because I just
haven't, you know, binged through all of his projects. But it does
seem like a bit of a strange pick. I think I would if I
was in Disney's shoes here want someone with more experience. It's like, it's
like the swift thing. For me, it's different if this was twenty nineteen
era, where they're just on a roll and you just go, well,
I trust them. We have enough reasons past three years to be weary of
some things, right. That's where for me it'd be like, hey,
maybe you can sludge the budget on this project on that. But for X
Men, which everyone deems is like, well, this is the future of
the MCU, you gotta get this one right, because I legitimly think of
that movie as like a not even a dud. If it's like, oh,
it was fine, I think so many people are gonna check out.
I think that that first X movie has to hit like Avengers twenty twelve or
Guardians twenty fourteen, Like I think it really has to come out to make
people. Not that you want to see everything the MCU, but that main
thing you want to be it has to be pulling you. And that's where
I think it has to really really hit, and it's danger if it doesn't.
Like you could argue that way with like, look what happened with before
the major stuff, even with the King and am Man stuff that almost felt
like a bad taste in Peole smell for Kang because that movie was so men.
So many people that I talked to were done with King, even to
the point of like little stuff of well he lost in his first movie.
What do I care? And I talked to so many people that are like,
I don't care about Kang, and it's like man for Care, that's
so many excites. One movie they killed it and abvious the other stuff happened
and they got rid of it. Well maybe they're going to retool the character,
but still like it. First impressions are everything. You can maybe get
them back with X Men, it's just and then you'll get that history of
Man like you do not want the revision's history of all. I guess Fox
X Men wasn't that bad, you know, like that's you don't want that,
you know it's gonna happen. I mean, yes, X Men is
very much an uphill battle from the perspective of just yeah, you have all
these established characters. People love a lot of the castings here, even in
both eras. You know, there's preferences here there, there's changes and things
that happen, but like there coming back this year like freshly, you know,
exactly. Yeah, so it's a lot to overcome, uh, just
in that way alone. So I don't know, I feel like it,
and like there's so many characters, Like, there's so many ways you could
take this story that it's so much easier to pull off a origin story for
Captain America than it is to do an ensemble movie with characters who have not
been established yet, like with I mean specific actors in these roles, and
you know, maybe they pull in Hugh Jackman and he's in this or something,
so there you go, that would be a major thing. But then
you also have the expectations higher if you do something like that as well.
And then if even if just yeah, soon after Deadpool, if you bring
in someone else in that role as Wolverine, like good luck doing that.
They didn't even do that in the Fox movies, you know, like they
just did with him. So so yeah, it's it's gonna be really tricky.
So I guess I'm very curious to see who they pick for the uh
I mean for the casting of course, but the directing as well. And
uh, hopefully this one doesn't have all this sort of just like so many
movies lately Nam Stephen, like, oh, the writer has been switched out
and a new director in here, the rewriting the script. They're delaying and
they're kicking it back, and if this one is one that they are like
putting their foot on the gas to get it out at asap, Like well,
X Men ninety seven is still a big deal, and they're balancing all
these other projects out they're and they're trying to slow down, Like it just
seems like there's a lot dangerous territory ahead of them to have this come out
and be successful. And I don't know, maybe, like obviously they've be
thinking about X Men for a long time. They bought that a long time
ago. Now they've had it in the back of their head. It's not
like they're just suddenly on May twenty first, twenty twenty four starting to think
about X Men. But yeah, I worry a bit if they're just going
all in on this and like putting other things to the side just to make
it happen. Like what if maybe there's like a better director doing another MCU
thing right now that would have been the perfect X Men pick, But like
they're all kind of tied up right now because they hadn't really planned that far
ahead or something like that. Well, I think that's at least One thing
that does give me some hope is if the planet is supposed to be Secret
Wars as of right now, which I don't even know if it's gonna hit
Secret Wars is twenty twenty six, that would tell me, like this X
movie is still like three years away. That almost gives me some calm of
this guy's like, let's say this is the writer that sticks with it.
This guy has like two and a half years to crack the code. Maybe
you know, like he did, like this is like hopefully a good way
of we don't want you to rush or eyeing you two years in advance,
get us a good X Men thing, because then it's also at that time
too, and maybe this is the Devil's advocate. They also have time to
pivot. If they get this guy's script, they go not good. It's
not like with a man, right, like Jeff Loven this was writing Avengers
five and then they kicked him. They got new people, right, So
maybe they're trying to avoid that where they want to have enough time where hey,
in a year, if this guy's script isn't good, we can go
to someone else. And it's not us trying to like struggle and be like,
oh, we got to hit this date because I don't even know if
Secret War is gonna hit twenty six, Like that's a I don't know,
that feels two years away. Yeah, that's starting to feel it's starting to
feel tricky. Yeah, you know, who knows. I'd like it,
but uh yeah, we'll see. And I'm happy that. Seemingly I would
imagine we'll got mune projects. But I'm always in the camp of I don't
want I know people have pitched that they should do the X Men in the
same way as Avengers, where you get like a Cyclops movie in a Wolverine
movie. I don't want that. I want the crew together. I think
there's some you can do, but I don't want the full Avengers lead up
again. I think this is a crew that you do mostly to get yeah
there at least a start. So I think that's hard to do at this
point in time. Yeah, especially because that's not like Yeah. The established
norm for for this series and my last plug too is check out on Patreon.
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Me, Dylan, Kirk Glint and there are some fun ones there,
so go check that out. All in the Phase two tier. And there's
three episodes, so it's about speak of I forget if this was a brendon
ours, it must have been a bread and butter up. So remember when
we did like the ten years we planned out like the next ten years of
Marvel, like all the movies and TV projects that were gonna happen, right,
Yes, it was? Yeah, was that three years ago that we
did that now a twenty one? Like we still have a Google doc of
it because that is all it's definitely out there. But yeah, I definitely
we should definitely look through that at some point. But maybe it hasn't been
long enough yet. It feels like it's been a while ago now, but
so much has changed in the realm of the MCU since, like the information
we had when we recorded that one MC ten years So okay, I won't
so you can go there. Yeah, we we did this in two thousand
and twenty three is when we planned. When we did that, wee last
year. It must have been last year. If not, I was late
two thousand. Are you sure someone hasn't just like opened it last year and
that's why it's showing that date. Uh, dyl Muss is the owner.
No changes since you last feed it. I did just click on it,
set my screw it. But just because in our list we have twenty twenty
three listed and it has all the projects that were coming up, so maybe
it was twenty twenty two. Wow, So it feels like that was a
long time ago now, But it does. I just I feel like there's
a ton has changed in terms of MC release dates in that time. But
so well, it is funny. We did say that The X Men were
going to come out in twenty twenty seven, and as of right now,
if it if Secret Wars weren't, if this were everything that goes planned,
it would be what was the King Dynasty release date on that thing? Let's
see here, that was probably twenty twenty four, right, or twenty twenty
five. Let's see Avenger Oh no, we definitely, this must have been
twenty twenty two. Then we had Avengers five at twenty twenty nine, so
we did this before the comic con. Oh wow, yeah, we were
totally different with that thing. We should put that in the description or something.
Yeah, people will check that episode. That's I'm sure a fun one
to listen back to you even yea, even now, I'm like, I
want to listen and see what we were thinking there, because now that's something
I was wrong on too. I think at one point said that they should
wait long for Avengers. Also had a Young Avengers in there beforehand or something
we did we did have I saw if any Young Avengers camp, but still
and it does have a lot to do with the writing, but how the
MCUs played out, I think they should have done an Avengers sooner than we
have. I think that was a mistake, so I think they they bungled
that. But quick a few notes on the Marvel Last week, they at
the upfront they announced Daredevil's coming out in March twenty twenty five, as right
now, it's only nine episodes. Was not set if that's the season one
or in total, so that went from that eighteen to nine, which is
probably probably smarter, you know, playet safe. They announced Agatha is coming
out twenty twenty four September, so this year as the title of Agatha all
along, so they did that. Ironheart is confirmed for next year apparently the
reason they pushed it because they want to be closer to Armor Wars, which
to me is still a movie that's never gonna happen, but I'm glad they're
still trying. And then this is probably coming from a ce Tier rumor,
but you know someone nonetheless that has a track record. This is Hawkeye season
two details, So it sounds like that's the work and that I've heard a
lot more more around But where is okay? Here? It is so supposedly
right now that Clint Barton is gonna come back and Hailey Seinfeld's gonna be there
as Kate Bishop. Let's see they the source of that. The second season
would be inspired by The Raid, where most of the action would be set
in one location where Kate Bishop and Clint Barton would be stuck. Also,
a big role would go to a Hawkeye's brother's Barney, who is like he's
also an archer, but he's kind of a like he's not like an anti
hero. Yeah, he's not an anti here, but he's a questionable guy.
Maybe a Jack Sparrow, like we we're talk about pirates a second,
where you know he's might do good, but he'll steal, Like, he'll
steal things, he'll commit some crime. Yeah, there you go. So
how would you feel about that? Of like one season, I don't even
never see them rain, But the Raid is like this classic action movie but
it is like a mixed martial arts, big stunt movie where a guy has
to go up all these levels and it's just one building where he's fighting people.
And that sounds like the idea here as that would be season two,
so clearly a good safer on the budget, and maybe it's like a I
don't know, maybe it's to ensure picture. When you say that is do
you remember the movie the platform, that Netflix movie that means you sequals come
out this year, sequels coming out this year? There's a sequel? No?
Yeah, yeah, I remember the picture when you say that, but
no, I don't know. I like that. It's it feels like very
mortal combat to me, just climbing the tower whatever they call it in that.
And also this could maybe help with Jamie Rener. I don't know how
much action he can do, but I feel like one location would help him
along with that because I remember we had that. Yeah, he almost died
a couple of years ago. So true. Yeah, I mean you got
that, you got like squid game, Like that's just not what I would
have pictured for this season two of this. I guess it could work.
I guess it could be interesting, it could be fun. I guess I'm
worried that it's all just gonna be like on the volume and then it's gonna
look like some weird like hope not like it's just gonna be like concrete backgrounds,
Like why don't you guys just find an actual warehouse or something. Maybe
they will the time you know they did with a Daredevil. They're shooting in
the streets again, right, so maybe they'll go, oh, hey,
let's do that and final ware Plus they say one location, but I guarantee
you'd get like flashbacks or other scenes that happen. Yeah, I feel like
I want some of her out in the world, and I would also maybe
want to see a couple like I'd want to see of course, Florence Pugh
appear again as Elena. I would love to see him on because like,
where else is she gonna be? I'd love to see her pop in out
of their homies according to the Marvels, even just for an episode or something.
So I don't know, I'm i'm I feel on that part of it.
But honestly, just the prospect of getting a season two that I didn't
think we would get one, just based on how things have been sounding lately.
But I really enjoyed that show and watch it again and just to enjoyed
it even more the second time, So that's exciting to me. I don't
know, if I don't how much I feel about this Barney Barton trick shot
guy. We'll see what goes on there? That just seems like a weird
thing of like, how has that not been mentioned before in the his you
you know, I remember Vision HISTORYW guy was single for four years and then
he was all a sudden married with kids. Right, So it's like a
it fits with Hawkeye just feel kind of came out of nowhere after all this
time. She definitely came out of nowhere. Oh. I never had a
family growing up. You had a fake mom, you had a cast.
Off the top of your head, who'd you cast as as Jeremy Renner's brother,
I have to be like, it sucks that he was back. It
was really buff from the pictures I see, but I feel like every Marvel
character is buff when you just google the comic version. It doesn't suck because
I know the Snyer people were happy. But in a world where he wasn't,
Ben Affleck would make a great Barney Barton because I just feel like that
Barney. Yeah, and I don't think you've seen the movie, but they
had really good chemistry in the town together, him and Renner, like in
a friendly brother of these sort of ways. So that is actually like right
off the top where I could see would be really good subs. Go Mark
Wrlberg, which I do not want really at all. Give me Glenn Powell
for a trick shot. No, he's gotta be Cyclaws, right, he's
gotta. He's not gonna go. He's too buugh for Cyclops, but just
enough. Cyclops can be bigger than Logan for once. You know. It's
fine. Okay, Yeah, that's uh he No, he's too Maybe that's
a good pick. Maybe that's a good pick. I'm gonna put in blonde
grizzled actors see Scars guard. Throw one of them in there. Wilson,
we already got him, I'll see and what not. Carl Urban, Yeah,
come back for a second MC role. Oh boy, Yeah, No,
I'm happy the Homelander guy. He can come in and do uhhot.
No, I think he's rumored to be joined the DCU apparently this week.
That's the big hot rumor going around that it's not exclusive true. No,
James Gunning, He's like, no, no more, I saw it happen.
Yeah, No, I really don't know. I think they'd probably get
some. I don't know, you get some with good chemistry. Off Renner.
I feel you gotta make him feel. It could be like a one
off kind of character that like dies in it, or he could be something
they want to integrate into the greater MCU. So it's a but like,
I don't know, I want it to be about Okay, Bishop, you
know, I think he'd be a dier, you'd be dire, he'd be
a dire And also the same thing, I'm still wondering what we do with
Hawkeye because I thought Hawkeye could end here. Yeah, like I figured he
would. He would appear in a second season, but I guess I wouldn't
have assumed that he would be protagonist energy in the same way he was in
the first season. Well, I guess the brother. That kind of makes
sense though, right If Kate's looking in at some things and she finds out
it's Barney Bardon and that's why she would go to Clint. That actually does
make sense to me. That's how you get him back in the action.
That's his brother. And then it's like, kind of it makes sense because
again I've said this before, I want him have the cap ending. I
don't want Secret Wars and Clint Barton dying, Like that's not the ending I
want for that character. I think some characters should get an happy ending and
the same way Cat got his. I think he should. I think some
angle up, yeah, like especially like we don't have enough family man people
in the Yeah, and he lost them already for five years. Like yes,
to me, that would just be one of those like, uh,
bummer for the sake of being bummers. You know, I wouldn't appreciate that.
So there's bigger fish to fry if you want a big emotional death on
screen. Yeah, and anything of the shows daredebil Agatha, Ironheart before we
move on. Ummm no, I guess this Daredevil thing. I probably talked
about it and I just can't remember. But like the season one is being
split, like why are they not just doing two seasons? Well, so
that's split anymore. They didn't. They didn't. They didn't even film those
other episodes. That's why now it's only down to nine. Okay. So
I was wikipeding around and I saw that there was like it was two sets
of that was the plan. That's not the plan anymore. No, now
the plan is just the nine. And they didn't even say like, oh,
this is season one. I think they're just gonna do this and see
what the reaction is I Yeah, I you know, I want all the
Devil daredel I can get, but that twenty seven episodes, whoever it was,
that was too many. So I'm I'm I'm happy with this smarter.
Hopefully that means it's easier to do higher success rate. Then we get a
second season and all that. But yeah, the rest of this nothing too
crazy there. I guess I'm not shocked by the Iron Heart kick Agatha.
It's coming out that shows d a man like we will watch it and review,
but I just think that, like it's I don't think I'm excited to
see Aubrey Plaza and what's his Name's in there? The crazy guy what's his
name? Crazy guy Eric Andre? He's in there? Right? Oh,
izy, I forgot about that. I think you're right. I mean,
let me confirm I should probably know this. Yeah, I just yeah,
I just don't know how they're gonna get that. I don't know. I
wonder. I feel like that's gonna be very miss Marvel Territory. I don't
know how. I don't see the poll for that. For people don't seem
in up upcoming projects. I swear that was a thing. Maybe I'm no
you're right now, I remember that was the thing, So it's not as
I am to be a released. So yeah, maybe he's technically not announced
or something. Yeah, exactly one of those rumored castings. So well,
we'll be right back and we're gonna talk about some trailers after this and we're
back, and I suppose you know what. I agree, they don't watch
but Simpsons. But I agree, he says, I feel like Agatha as
a show now is like the Simpsons show. That's way too late. And
I think so, I think like Wantavision was what two thousand and twenty or
twenty one. Nothing came out in twenty twenty, right, Yeah, you're
right, so it's twenty one, so it's yeah, three years later and
okay, it's almost four years later because Wanavision came out January twent so it
was the first one to break down the doors. Yeah, hopefully the show's
good, but I just don't I don't know. Like I said, it's
one of those shows that were green light in that era. So but we'll
see. Yeah,