WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:06.759 In today's episode, we are talking about book banning. Everyone's favorite subject, 2 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:13.240 book banning. God, it's happening across the United States. It is. 3 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:18.760 You have a local story you want to talk about. I do, don't 4 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:21.399 you? I do? Oh? I just thought you were asking me. 5 00:00:21.600 --> 00:00:25.719 Now you're telling me I do. Mary, There you go, put some 6 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:30.679 emphasis on it. Off behind that I did. I've got a story that's 7 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:35.920 a few weeks old from Michigan about some book banning. So let's get into 8 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:42.560 that topic. Okay, right after the break if you're back. Hey, 9 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:47.159 everybody, welcome to Latter Day Lesbian, the podcast about an ex Mormon gay 10 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:51.399 girl just trying to figure out her life. My name is Mary, my 11 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:56.359 name is Shelley. Yes it is. We are recording in a goofy way 12 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:59.880 today, So I'm hoping that your stuff's actually recording. Well I hope so 13 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:03.119 too. Otherwise, UM, yeah, you'll just be hearing Mary and it's 14 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:07.680 just not as fun. Okay, all right, I want to give a 15 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.000 shout out. Could I do a shout out? Oh? Sure, shout 16 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:14.239 out to Michelle. I think that was her name that we met last night 17 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:19.239 as we were walking down the streets of Oldtown Alexandria. Yeah, that was 18 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:26.079 a random, random sighting. Yeah, Michelle just yelled latter day lesbian and 19 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:30.000 she was with her friends who don't know about the podcast, and they were 20 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:36.319 horrified that she would just yell hate speech in downtown or in old town Alexandria. 21 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:40.200 So yep, but it wasn't hate speech, it was love speech. 22 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.079 Well I felt the love. Wait, I have more shout outs. Oh 23 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:49.280 you do happy birthday to both Diana and Kimberly. Oh yeah, friends of 24 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:55.519 the podcast and frequent at least once upon a time, frequent recorders with us. 25 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:57.959 Yes, we're getting it back on. Don't worry. Gotta work on 26 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.920 that. We're still ramping up. We sat we were ramping up. Well, 27 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:06.920 there's more moving that's happening. It's I'm moving again. So we're ramping 28 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:10.159 down a little bit again. But we will ramp back up within the next 29 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:14.800 while. Yeah. Sorry, this is a slow, slow start here, 30 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:16.520 yes, but we're getting there. Listen, we have lots of episodes. 31 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:23.680 You can always start over at the beginning, Okay. I mean, I'm 32 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:27.599 just trying to give encouragement because you know, or if you haven't already, 33 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:31.120 you can join ldl's Gant how do we say it's scandal sessions. Scandal sessions. 34 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:36.360 Yeah, yeah, well, the very latest one is recording I did 35 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:38.479 with my sister in early summer, and that's kind of a ship show, 36 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:45.639 kind of funny. The one before that you talk all about the slum you're 37 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:49.719 you're kind of living in. That's true, it's an accidental slum. It 38 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.439 is an acidental slum. But we don't want to give out too much information 39 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:55.960 because we want you to join Ldale Scandal Sessions. We also have a super 40 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:02.240 awesome private Facebook group for that where it's so private that you're freed event on 41 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:06.360 whatever the hell you want. And I have, oh you know what, 42 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:08.599 we should probably post in there about the latest episode. Yeah, yeah, 43 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:10.840 I haven't done that. I'll have to do a post. All right, 44 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:14.319 okay, all right, back to business. All right, Should we just 45 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:16.439 get into this episode about book banning? Yes, all right, this was 46 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:20.439 prompted. Do you get those news alerts on your phone, by the way, 47 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.879 shell, No, you don't get news alerts. That's how I found 48 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:28.319 out about my news because I get alerted. I should probably sign up for 49 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:30.439 something like that. Yeah, And so then it goes to the news app 50 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:36.800 that you have on your iPhone. Got then you can read stories unless you 51 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:38.919 don't have a subscription to some of them, but sometimes you can just read 52 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:44.159 them. Okay. I was able to read this story. This was from 53 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:49.560 August twenty sixth, so a while ago, Detroit Free Press, and I'm 54 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.120 just gonna read this article. Read it. A Michigan town may lose its 55 00:03:53.199 --> 00:04:00.400 only library after its staff refused to remove an lgbt Q book. Good for 56 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.680 them, though, good for the library. Stand up for yourself exactly. 57 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:10.439 Okay. When a library staff and a West Michigan township refused to remove its 58 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:15.840 books containing LGBTQ themes, go library resident. I edited that part. That's 59 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:19.639 good. Residents voted to defund their only library. They were like, we'd 60 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:25.120 rather have no library at all than a library with the filth and here, 61 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:30.879 yeah, with a queer book exactly. Yeah, We'd rather have no reading 62 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:34.800 than gay reading, even if it's like one percent of the books, and 63 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:40.399 this library shut it down right, and it might not even be one percent. 64 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:46.319 Remember when we interviewed our shelves and that lovely lady was talking about how 65 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:49.000 hard it is for libraries to get queer books in there, because you have 66 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:53.040 to request them and then the authors have to see that they want them, 67 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:56.319 and blah blah blah. Anyway, there are not a lot in these libraries, 68 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:00.759 and yet people get the stick shoved so far up their ass that they're 69 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:04.079 like, wait, there's two books. Shut the whole fucking thing down, 70 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:09.560 right, right, right right, Yeah, ridiculous. The Patmos, I 71 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:12.920 don't know if I'm saying that correctly. Could be Patmos. Say it however 72 00:05:12.959 --> 00:05:17.319 you want, Okay. The Patmos Library and Jamestown Township outside of Grand Rapids, 73 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:23.959 Michigan, lost eighty five percent of its operating budget after an August second 74 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:30.040 vote when it's funding was up for renewal. A conservative Christian group Weird That 75 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:38.560 Never Happened Never had campaigned against the library because of books it has deemed inappropriate 76 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:43.399 for children. The issue will be back on the ballot in November. There's 77 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:46.160 still time. Everybody's coming up. If you're in Michigan, get out there 78 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:50.680 and vote right one last time to save the library. If it doesn't pass, 79 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:54.879 the library will likely close. I'm gonna just say, library, let's 80 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.560 turn it into a drinking game. Every time you say library, I have 81 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.319 a sip of my coffee. Anyone at home, I want to play. 82 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:08.000 The saga illustrates a growing trend of book banning debates across the country that center 83 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:14.079 on LGBTQ books. While banning books is a decades old practice, thank you, 84 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:17.399 Puritan America. Yeah, I was gonna say that's only because Christianity is 85 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:23.959 more than decades old. It's never just like your random person. It's like 86 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:27.759 a random person living in your town. That's like ban the books. It's 87 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:32.279 always based on some kind of fucked up Puritan religion. Christianity name it, 88 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:36.879 what for Mormonism, name it. There's always some kind of religion behind banning 89 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:41.720 books. Of course, Shelley. We have to protect the children, yeah, 90 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.800 from the world, sure, the evil world, the evil, evil 91 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:49.519 world where there are queers that oh gosh, that reminds me. Sorry side 92 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:53.560 note, we're watching a League of their own. We just finished it. 93 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:58.000 This series a phenomenal series. Anyway. In there, there's like this girl 94 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.879 who's afraid of everything, and she thinks that every things out to get her. 95 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:03.399 And she realizes that one of the other girls is a lesbian they call 96 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:08.120 them what inverts, Yeah, and she's horrified at it. Doesn't want to 97 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.759 be your friend anymore. Blah. Blah blah. And then the other girl, 98 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:15.439 Carson gives her kind of like a speech about you're afraid of eating canned 99 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.959 foods that are bent. Your friend, like listing all these things that this 100 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:21.600 girl's afraid of, but she's like, just live your life right and keep 101 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:25.879 your friends. And so the next day Carson comes in the room and this 102 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:29.600 girl who's afraid of everything, she's trying to overcome her fears, and she 103 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:32.240 runs up to Carson kisses her right on the mouth, and then backs when 104 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:36.120 it's like, oh my gosh, it's not contagious. I'm not attractive to 105 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:40.920 you at all. This is fantastic. So I think there was a compliment 106 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:46.319 and there's somewhere somewhere somewhere. Yeah, but the realization that you can't catch 107 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:49.920 gayness right right, I'm not sure what this has to do with. Oh, 108 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:56.839 it was the fears, the religious attacking the gaze because they think it's 109 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:01.560 contagious, right, and if your children read queer themed or whatever books, 110 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:05.319 they're gonna become gay. Yeah, it doesn't work that way. I know. 111 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:09.199 Um, we oddly and are one of our airbnbs has a have a 112 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:11.680 book on carpentry. I'm not sure where that came from. But I'm wondering. 113 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:16.120 It's from nineteen sixty something, but it's cool looking and it's a very 114 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:18.680 retro. But I'm wondering if one of your kids read that carpentry book, 115 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:22.680 would they suddenly become a carpenter? Oh sure, or want to be a 116 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.639 carpenter because they read a book about it. Yeah, they would suddenly feel 117 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.519 You know how many books I've read on different subjects and I haven't been influenced 118 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:35.519 by that. M huh, weird. Weird. You would think that I'd 119 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:41.519 be so easily influenced by everything I've ever well answered this, have you ever 120 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:46.600 read a book that has heterosexual couples? Oh? Wow? Yeah, and 121 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:54.360 seen shows and movies so bombarded by that? Are you straight now? Exactly? 122 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:56.759 Your point is taken. Oh and I read a lot of the Bible 123 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:01.600 too, and that didn't stick. You'd think I'd be a big old Christian 124 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:03.559 or whatever because of all the Bible reading I did back in the day. 125 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.120 That didn't really stick either, No, thank god, because the Bible's pretty 126 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:13.240 fucked up, especially the Old Testament. But we've talked about that before. 127 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:18.679 Yeah, So the point is, what good does it do removing certain subjects 128 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:22.240 from libraries or wherever else. If you think that your kid is going to 129 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:26.720 read whatever book. Oh, they read a cookbook today. Guess what. 130 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:30.799 They still can't cook for shit. You know, it doesn't work that way. 131 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.639 It doesn't just doesn't work that way. Okay, And I am not 132 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.720 sure, but I am guessing with a big opinion here that these books are 133 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.039 trying to ban are not telling people how to be a queer. It's not 134 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:45.440 step by step right with pictures. Oh that would have been helpful, wouldn't 135 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:48.000 it. Oh God, I would have loved that book. Why wasn't that 136 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.360 in my library? I was too busy like reading Where the Red Fern Grows 137 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:54.519 and crying over and over. We should write a funny how to be a 138 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:58.840 lesbian. There's probably a how to be a lesbian book out there, but 139 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.080 a joking one, not like how to become a lesbian. And that's what 140 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:05.360 the Christians are worried about. The people will become a lesbian, their straight 141 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:11.559 kids will be swallowed up in vagina fantasies. That was hard to say. 142 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.879 Okay, Can I get continue with this article? Place? Yes? Sorry? 143 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:16.480 All right? Well, I was saying, while banning books is a 144 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:22.960 decades old practice. Conservative groups have recently focused on removing ones that center on 145 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:30.240 sexuality and gender identity. No coincidence there, along with race and religion, 146 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:35.639 also no coincidence there. I'm guessing the Bible may or may not still be 147 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:37.039 in there, but I think it would be. And this is just me 148 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:41.440 guessing. I don't have the facts on this, but I would think that 149 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:45.879 they are banning books that are anti religion, that are atheist based. But 150 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.879 this is my opinion. I don't know, just throwing that shit out there. 151 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:50.919 We could probably research that, I would say, probably or leg Wickan 152 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.879 or whatever. Right, Yeah, anything that's not Christian exactly. So this 153 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:01.639 fight has come to a head at the Patmos Library in Michigan, Okay, 154 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:09.080 they're protesting all LGBTQ books that are on our shelves, said Larry Walton, 155 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.840 Library board president. They want to ban books, which is unacceptable. We 156 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.679 the board will not ban books. Thank you, Larry, Thank you. 157 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:24.399 Out of about sixty seven thousand materials, about ninety pieces could be relative to 158 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:28.799 LGBTQ themes. That's what I'm saying. What is the percentage on sixty seven 159 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:35.279 thousand books, only ninety are thematic to LGBTQ stuff. If I knew how 160 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:37.879 to do that math with my calculator, I would, but it's very, 161 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:43.039 very low. It's a small percentage. Again, if you have a carpentry 162 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:45.399 book on the shelf doesn't mean if your kid reads it, they're going to 163 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:48.679 be a carpenter. This is so stupid. There's like alien books and shit 164 00:11:48.799 --> 00:11:52.159 too, like dinosaur books. You think those are the dinosaurs that are from 165 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:58.559 other planets that God kitty litter or scoop and no scattered around the Earth. 166 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.120 Yes, No, what I mean is there? I'm sure they're myth. 167 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:07.159 Dinosaurs didn't exist, Shelley. They came from other planets. God used the 168 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:11.360 big kittler scoop and gobbled him up, dumped him here to make it to 169 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:16.840 intersense of why the earth is? He needed layers. He just needed layers, 170 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.559 so he puts some fossils in there. Gotcha? What I meant was 171 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.600 there? I'm sure there are fiction not true books that star like a cat 172 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:30.360 that talks, that's true. I think there are talking animal books out there. 173 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:33.799 Yeah, how does that affect? I don't know. They're gonna think 174 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.679 their animals are gonna start talking. We're misleading children, right, and let 175 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.360 me also throw this out there. I could understand a parent not wanting a 176 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:48.480 young child to read a book that is sexually explicit, okay, but that 177 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:50.559 for me, that's whether it's straight or queer, I don't care. I 178 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:54.480 could understand me not wanting Cassidy to read like The Joy of Sex by what 179 00:12:54.559 --> 00:13:00.279 was her name again, I don't know, Ruth, doctor Ruth. However, 180 00:13:00.559 --> 00:13:03.960 libraries are always split into age groups, right, So when I go 181 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.200 to my public library, the kids section is off to the left, and 182 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.519 there's not going there will be there will be books for now anyway, you 183 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.759 know, like Jimmy has to Daddy or something like that. But it's it's 184 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:22.480 toned to that age group to have an understanding of families. So kids who 185 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:26.440 are in those kind of families don't feel like they're weird, and kids who 186 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:31.600 are not in queer families can understand. Right, So it's not like we're 187 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:37.600 letting elementary schools read gay porn. That's not it and that you know, 188 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.559 and that's stuff that I hear from the right is like kids shouldn't even be 189 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:43.080 reading about sex at that age. I'm like, well, sure, I 190 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:48.039 agree, but they're not giving them sex books at that age about straight or 191 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:52.759 queer relationships. Right now, if you've got let's say, a teenager or 192 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:58.279 young adult who is quite possibly experimenting with sex, with their identity, with 193 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:03.440 everything, why should they not have books available to help them feel normal, 194 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:07.240 right, so that something they can relate to exactly? Yeah, well I 195 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:11.799 agree. Basically it's sucking up the queer people. Bottom line. Once again, 196 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:16.000 who loses the queers? Sure? I mean the queer kids. Yeah, 197 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:18.919 I'll throw that out there the next queer generation. Well, right, 198 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.240 and then this thing is thrown in their faces. If it weren't for you 199 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:28.200 queers, we would have a library here. Basically, that's the message, 200 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:33.679 right, wouldn't have those nine books out of how many thousand? Yeah? 201 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:39.159 You only read that stat again, sure, ninety books out of sixty seven 202 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:41.960 thousand. Yeah. Those of you who know math and you just listen to 203 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:45.919 this podcast, go ahead and post that in Latter Day Lesbian podcast discussion. 204 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.919 Thanks, Joe, are you listening, Joe? What's the math? I 205 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:52.360 count that ship was out here? Oh my gosh, Okay, let me 206 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:56.919 continue. Okay. Ahead of the vote, a Christian group called Jamestown Conservatives 207 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:03.480 placed large signs in the town ship, urging residents to vote no, citing 208 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:11.279 concerns that the library was grooming children with books containing explicit material and LGBTQ themes. 209 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.840 Once again, you read a book on carpentry, you don't become a 210 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.360 carpenter. How many times we have to go over there? Well, that 211 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:22.320 was like the sixth time. I would also take a gander that if this 212 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.639 conservative group were to look through all of the books that are there available, 213 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:33.919 they will find heterosexual theme books that are just as explicit that they think the 214 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:37.799 queer books are. Yeah, what about just going after the queers? That's 215 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:39.279 it. I bet they have like fifty shades of gray. So I was 216 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:43.000 wondering that was the exact thing that popped into my head. Is that in 217 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:45.960 libraries they're not talking about it. I bet it is, But there's not 218 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:52.159 fifty shades of queer gray. Good analogy listeners, you know what the fuck 219 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:54.240 I mean? Right? How many different ways I have to say it? 220 00:15:54.240 --> 00:16:00.279 It's fucked up. It's a double standard, Yes, because the gays are 221 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:04.279 out to recruit, recruit yep, I want all of the young girls to 222 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:07.240 go to home depot with me, wear cargo pants. That's all I want. 223 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:11.200 We're gonna listen to melist the Etheridge along the way. We're gonna wear 224 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.480 plaid flannel blouses. We were just thinking about that episode of Old Blouse and 225 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:21.639 the Laundry. Where's that blood flannel blouse? Yeah, we were relieving our 226 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:26.720 video. Well, that episode is called not Your Typical Lipstick Lesbian. I 227 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.200 don't remember what episode number is, but that's pretty damn funny. But our 228 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:33.679 videos on our YouTube page, yep, where you could just say channel if 229 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:41.279 you want the videos on our YouTube channel. As you're funny, you're fun 230 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:47.240 to tease. Okay. The content and some of the books contains graphic sexual 231 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:51.399 dialogue and narrative, So quick, groom and our kids. No child has 232 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:55.840 an innate sense of being gender queer or gender fluid. It is manipulative, 233 00:16:55.840 --> 00:17:00.679 destructive and wrong, not true. A library that pushes this agenda is disrespectful. 234 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:07.720 This is from someone named Donna Rothman. She said you, Donna Rotman. 235 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:14.720 She said it at an August eighth board meeting. So again back to 236 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:18.759 the subject of are the heterosexual books there are? They don't. They don't 237 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:23.559 talk about sure to be straight, to have a normal babies, that's normal, 238 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:29.880 normal, And come on the libraries are pushing an agenda. There's ninety 239 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:32.960 books out of whatever that number was. You keep saying it's not if there 240 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:37.960 was an actually an actual agenda, they would be everywhere. Yeah, they're 241 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:42.400 just trying to have all populations represented. Is that so wrong? I don't 242 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:48.599 think so. Okay. The book that sparked the controversy at Patmos or pat 243 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:52.920 Mos, I'm not sure. Someone helped me out here is called Gender Queer, 244 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:56.319 a Memoir, a graphic novel by Maya Kobabi. Not sure if I'm 245 00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:03.119 saying that correctly. That details they're experiences exploring gender identity and sexuality. It 246 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:08.559 is the most commonly banned book, according to an analysis from pen America, 247 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:15.400 a literary and free speech organization. Patmos Library refused to ban Gender Queer, 248 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:19.960 but did remove it from its spot in the adult section and placed it behind 249 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:25.279 the counter. Oh so it's like it's like when you want to go buy 250 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:29.000 Suda fed you can't do that anymore. You have to request it behind a 251 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:34.440 counter or condoms. Yes, very similar. Wow, that is crazy. 252 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:38.200 That's like here back in the closet please, yeah, yeah, yeah, 253 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:41.519 yeah. You have to know what you're you can't just browse for it. 254 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.000 You have to come in knowing what book you want. Well, they wouldn't 255 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:48.880 want a straight person accidentally stumbling upon it, reading it and becoming queer. 256 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.960 I hate when that happened. It's horrible. Is that what happened to me? 257 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:56.079 No? Yeah, you know how many straight books I've read? Get 258 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:00.079 back to that, and I'm not straight. I have read zero queer books. 259 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:04.720 Zero. Really, you never read one single one. I've listened in 260 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:10.000 the recent past too, maybe three, But I'm seeing my entire life I 261 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:11.839 never did yet. Yeah, here you are. Yeah, yeah, I 262 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:17.920 can attest folks. Shelley is queer. Trust me on this one. Thanks 263 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:22.920 Mary, did you just out me? I know all right? Interested readers 264 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.400 would have to specifically ask for this book that is behind the counter gender queer. 265 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:30.279 Everybody asked for gender queer. Yes, by the way, good idea 266 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:36.400 their local libraries. Okay. Residents also wanted to ban Kiss Number eight and 267 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:41.640 Spinning Don't Know these both graphic novels that depict girls realizing they want to kiss 268 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:45.839 other girls. Go girls wanting to kiss other girls. I'm nothing wrong with 269 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:49.559 it. As a matter of fact, it's amazing, but I'm not recruiting 270 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:52.480 just so we're clear. Yeah, I'm just a fan. Well, I 271 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:56.920 bet there's books about girls wanting to kiss boys. I mean shit right, 272 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:00.319 Like I couldn't think of any because I'm not really a reader in Moore. 273 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:07.440 But like, yes, there are books of even elementary school, so many, 274 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:10.599 we just can't think of any. By the way, neither of these 275 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:15.000 books contain nudity. But this library, I said, library again, drink 276 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:21.279 they want to ban both these books about kissing girls. Okay. Jamestown resident 277 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.920 Connor Cook twenty five, said he I don't know why his age is important, 278 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:29.319 but whatever, said he witnessed homophobia growing up in the township as queer, 279 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:33.720 but the failed millage was still a gut punch, oh for sure. 280 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:37.359 Yeah. Cook volunteered at the library during the summer and said pat Mus was 281 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:41.279 a safe space for him to learn, a place where he could be himself. 282 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:45.920 Not anymore, Nope. He was homeschooled and said he had limited access 283 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:51.839 to resources, so the library helped him explore the world on his terms. 284 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:56.160 He said. We walked around our world every day surrounded by hate directed toward 285 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.440 specific groups of people, and most of us have the privilege to ignore it, 286 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:06.200 including myself. He said. This decision to defund the library was like 287 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:11.240 waking up one morning realizing they came for your home. Yeah, wow, 288 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:14.359 I know, because there was a safe space for him once pond time. 289 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:21.160 If Patmos Library closes, the roughly eight thousand Jamestown residents won't have access to 290 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:27.240 a nearby library and the resource it provides, like reliable WiFi. Libraries outside 291 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:32.200 the area charge up to one hundred and fifty dollars in fees for nonresident Cards 292 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:36.720 said, I don't know how to pronounce this person, a former librarian at 293 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:41.400 Patmos. Libraries are one of the last social places in our world where there 294 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:45.720 doesn't exist the expectation to spend money. So that freedom to be able to 295 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.519 go and pick up a movie for the night and not have to pay to 296 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:51.559 rent it, or taking out a board game for family game night. Wow, 297 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:53.160 I didn't know you could do all this, or kids going to use 298 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:57.400 the computers to research for projects. That all stops, she said. Removing 299 00:21:57.559 --> 00:22:03.519 LGBTQUE books or putting them behind a counter sends a message that people who want 300 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:07.079 to read these books or identify with these characters in the books are not fit 301 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:12.319 to be in public. Exactly exactly that is the message it sends, we 302 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:18.079 had to close our library because of you queers. Get out. This world 303 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:25.680 doesn't want you, starting with our town. Fuck that shit, Fuck that 304 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:30.119 shit. It's twenty twenty two, right like the year. I'm not sure 305 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:34.960 it should be, but people aren't acting like it. Yeah, I'm going 306 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:41.279 to wrap this up. There is still a way to be involved. They 307 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:45.160 have a go fund me. Oh. If you go to go fund me 308 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:52.480 dot com, search up Patmos Library and they have a fund there to save 309 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:56.200 the library. Good and that is sad that you need to save a library. 310 00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:57.720 Well it is, but this is going to come up for a vote 311 00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:00.599 again and yeah November. I mean they could be defunded in November. Oh 312 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.279 I know. I'm just saying, how Saturday is in twenty twenty two. 313 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:10.200 We need to help a random library in Michigan stay open, Yeah, because 314 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:14.480 they're being attacked by this fucking right wing conservative Christian group that hates the gays. 315 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:18.759 Yeah. Basically, they're trying to raise two hundred and forty five thousand 316 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:22.079 dollars and as of a month ago, they had one hundred and seventy eight 317 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.240 thousand donations. Good. Definitely getting there. If you would like to help 318 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:33.200 the Patmos Library if I'm saying that correctly. In Jamestown Township in Michigan, 319 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:36.839 go to go fundme dot com and throw them a couple of bucks. I'm 320 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:40.440 sure they'd appreciate it, and some queer books can get back on the show. 321 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:45.839 Yes, we have more to talk about about this subject. Don't more 322 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.960 of a local take on it in Virginia? Yes? Right, Just so 323 00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:53.359 happens that the local it's called Vienna Patch. I think in the Vienna is 324 00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:57.319 where I will be moving to in like five days, and I haven't started 325 00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:02.839 packing. A news blurb came out of there and talking about the books that 326 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:03.839 are being banned. So yeah, I want to touch on that just a 327 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:07.599 bit. All right, Why don't we take a quick break and we'll get 328 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:15.759 to it in just a second. Alrighty, you're right back, and we're 329 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:21.880 back. I spoke about the Vienna Patch into a small town. We're just 330 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:26.119 outside of Washington, DC, so we get some big news that comes in 331 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.200 anyway, this is coming out of Arlington, Virginia, which is close, 332 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:36.880 and it's banned books week school officials at nine school districts in Virginia, including 333 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:41.680 Fairfax County Public schools. That's where my kiddos go. We're among those challenging 334 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.880 and banning books in what a Banned Books Week twenty twenty two report called an 335 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:51.559 unprecedented fashion. While school districts across Virginia banned books over the past year, 336 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:56.599 Virginia Beach started it. Really yeah, go pat ro Robertson representing the Christian 337 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:02.720 Coalition or whatever the hell fuck or all right, I'm skipping that boring paragraph. 338 00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:06.799 The report from pen America, a New York based literary and free expression 339 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:11.640 nonprofit advocacy group, highlights how challenges to books have become a political issue nationwide. 340 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:15.359 It is political. I mean, now we have social media. You 341 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:19.200 see, it's all fucking political. And if you are a conservative you have 342 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:22.640 to believe this one way, right, and if you're liberal you have to 343 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:26.599 believe this one way. They're crossovers, for sure. But it seems to 344 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.559 me that the conservative side of things, at least what I see on social 345 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.759 media, is on the attack. Why does it have to be like that? 346 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:36.119 Why can't we be like, Oh, I'm a Republican, but I 347 00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:37.720 don't agree with all these things. Oh I'm a Democrat, Well I don't 348 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.240 agree with all these things. Why can't that be Okay, there are some, 349 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:42.640 but it's rare. It is rare. It's like you have to get 350 00:25:42.680 --> 00:25:47.480 on board with everything the party. Well, sure, because every time there's 351 00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:49.440 elections coming up. By the way, we've got election season around here coming 352 00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:52.680 up. Commercials and promotions and all those things. The ads, they are 353 00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.240 almost always hated based and fear based, very polarizing. Yes, you have 354 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:02.519 to scare your people into voting for you. If you do it for me, 355 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:04.920 then the other side is going to be, you know, killing babies 356 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.920 right after they're born, or pushing that queer agenda. Yes, you know, 357 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:14.039 somehow takes away from our traditional families. I still haven't figured that. 358 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:17.920 I still haven't taken away from it. I'm trying, but I haven't been 359 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.519 able to succeed anyway. The article also says a majority of the targeted books 360 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:29.240 focus on sexual identity, race, and racism. I was thinking about this. 361 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:32.559 Do you remember in the news. I think it's been in the last 362 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:37.680 year where people wanted to get rid of the statues of generals and things from 363 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.680 the South who were pro slavery. Sure, so, my right wing friends 364 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.799 would argue that, oh, well, you wanted to erase history by getting 365 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:51.400 rid of the statues. And it's like, no, this is so different. 366 00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:56.680 Getting rid of statues is not erasing history. It is a statement of 367 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.880 No, we don't admire these people who had slaves. Yeah, and why 368 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.599 do we have to memorialize shitty asshole people. Yeah, yeah, we're not 369 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:08.440 erasing history. I mean you can read there's no way to raise history. 370 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.680 No, by the way, no, it is there. Yeah, and 371 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.400 so no, fuckers, it's not the same thing. It's saying, you 372 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.799 know what, we don't idolize these people exactly. We don't literally and figuratively 373 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:26.359 put them on pedestals. Literally, they are on a pedestal to be memorialized. 374 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:27.640 Right, No, not okay, get rid of it? Yep, 375 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:33.200 okay, so um, right wingers, fuck that argument doesn't work for me. 376 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.480 In Virginia, by the way, where my kids are attending school in 377 00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:42.359 Fairbecks County. The books that are banned included temporary removal are Number one, 378 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.920 Gender Queer a Memoir, same one. Yep, that one gets a lot 379 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:51.119 of traction. There's one called lawn Boy. I think I'd like to read 380 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.119 these and see what the fuck are you so freaked out about. I am 381 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:59.240 a gay wizard, this is fucking awesome. Out of Darkness. Let me 382 00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:00.920 back up. I'm putting the authors out there if he wants to support these 383 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:06.079 books by getting them, asking for them in libraries, ordering them online. 384 00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:11.359 Gender Queer a Memoir by Maya I'm sorry, Koebabe, Kobobby, thank you, 385 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:17.240 sorry, I'm sorry, sir. Yeah, lawn Boy by Jonathan Evanson, 386 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:21.880 We've got I'm a Gay Wizard by Vs. Santoni, out of Darkness 387 00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:27.279 by Ashley Hope, Perez, The Poet X by Elizabeth Asavado, and When 388 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:32.920 Aid and Became a Brother by Kyle Lukoff. Why don't you send these to 389 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:34.640 me and I can put them in the show description, the show notes and 390 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.960 then people can just look them up. Okay, I'll stop reading because there's 391 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.160 a bunch more along these same lines. There was also an article that came 392 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.839 out. Okay, this just kind of made me laugh because sometimes the VNA 393 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.119 patch they just kind of list what's going on in the paper that you're about 394 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:55.400 to read, and it starts with transgender student State Guidelines, black Bear sightings, 395 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:59.839 Top Virginia News. What that's funny. I know, I'm like, 396 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.000 there could have been there should have been a way that you could, you 397 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.920 know, somehow separate that out. Okay, here's what's going around here. 398 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:15.519 Virginia Governor Glenn Junkin's ass hat new school guidelines restrict transgender student rights. Like 399 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:21.359 what the fuck? Thanks bro. Virginia Governor Glen Younkins administration release state education 400 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:26.440 guidelines that would roll back the rights of transgender students, moved by the States 401 00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.519 Republican governor weird that is expected to be challenged in court. The new model 402 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:36.160 policies released Friday will likely have to be adopted by all of the states one 403 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:41.920 hundred and thirty three school districts in October. They will require transgender students to 404 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:45.240 use school bathrooms and locker rooms matching this sex they were assigned at birth. 405 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:51.400 Let me start with that one. That's fucked up A but I'll also say 406 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:56.400 that that has been an issue for right wing forever, So I'm not surprised 407 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.640 at that right because they don't understand their home homophobes. How difficult it would 408 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.359 it be to add another bathroom? Like I love when I go into a 409 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.720 restaurant and it's just a bathroom. Well, we don't have a budget, 410 00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.160 you know what, let's budget some shit. Can we budget some shit for 411 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:17.079 education and schools where our children go, so we don't have how about diversity 412 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:23.279 among children? That thought? Okay, Also, schools have doors on their 413 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:27.680 bathroom stalls period, end of story. I mean, I could see in 414 00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:33.599 school where let's say a girl starting her period wouldn't want to share a bathroom 415 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.000 with boys. Just add a third damn bathroom. No, I get it. 416 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:38.839 I get it at a third bathroom. But again, I see, 417 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:42.440 I'm not surprised this part. I'm not surprised at I'm like, whatever they've 418 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:48.160 been, they've been fearmongering this since the beginning of time. Here's the one 419 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:49.680 that really, I mean, it all pisses me off, but this is 420 00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:53.759 really like why you got to be so mean? Right? The policies also 421 00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:59.319 make it difficult for students to change their name and gender at school. What 422 00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.519 why is that? Because that didn't you tell me that the teachers were They're 423 00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:04.920 asking teachers to use their birth name. You use their birth name. That's 424 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.519 what principles are asking teachers to do, right, yes, younkins. Virginia 425 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:14.279 Department of Education also stated in the model policies that the legal name and sex 426 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.680 of a student cannot be changed even upon written instruction of a parent or eligible 427 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:25.799 student without an official legal document or court order. That's fucked up. When 428 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.720 I was in seventh grade, the teacher asked first day school, what would 429 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.119 you like to be called? And I thought it would be funny to say 430 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:37.359 Gidget. And I was called Gidget for that entire year. There was no 431 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.519 problem that you have a new nickname. I do. I still have papers 432 00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.799 where I'm like Gidget Johnson. Fucking awesome. I found this at my parents' 433 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:49.720 house. Shelley's new name. Everybody feel free to send her messages. Greetings 434 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.559 Gidget, Say what's up? Gidget? Lying nun? Love it flying Nun. 435 00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.000 She's not the same person. Oh well, Gidget isn't the flying nun. 436 00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:02.039 It is in the Flying Nun. No, Sally Field played Gidget and 437 00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:07.640 the Flying Nun two different characters. Okay, got it, let me continue 438 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.680 reading. Okay. This is also part of the model that dickhead Yunkan is 439 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.480 putting out there. Oh, we need to come out with an apology. 440 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:21.920 Oh so I have been known to label Dalin a chokes like that bald asshole 441 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.440 or whatever. I say that. And we got a letter from someone, 442 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:30.880 and thank you for sending that in stating you're being aggressive with the word bald 443 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:36.759 can be hurtful to certain people who might have alopecia or anyone who anyone, 444 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.519 Yeah, yes, anyone yaone. Shouldn't make fun of people based on physical 445 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:45.599 characteristics, yes, and my apologies. We shouldn't make fun of people the 446 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:52.640 podcast. Okay, how about based on their strict conservative Mormon. Of course 447 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:53.680 we're going to make fun of that. Okay, we're allowed to do that. 448 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:58.240 Yes, no, no more his baldness just he's the devil. Okay, 449 00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:00.480 so sorry, Sorry, we've hurt anyone's feeling. I have absolutely no 450 00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.319 problem with bald people. I have a big problem with dalin a jokes. 451 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.480 Okay. Going on about this new model put out by the governor, teachers 452 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:14.440 and other school officials can only refer to a student by their pronouns associated with 453 00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.519 their sex at birth, and teachers will not be required to refer to a 454 00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:22.279 student's chosen names, regardless of paperwork, if they feel doing so would violate 455 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:29.079 their constitutionally protected rights. Thank god. So even if the student gets their 456 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.559 name legally changed, if the teachers have a problem with it, they can 457 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:39.240 keep calling him Sally or her Jonathan like what the because it goes against their 458 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:45.640 constitutionally protected rights. The teachers yes to not have to call what they think 459 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:52.799 is a boy. How is that religion? Religion? They like to act 460 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.440 like freedom of religion means you could treat people like shit if you have a 461 00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:04.400 problem with them being queer. Separate of state and religion has never actually truly 462 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:09.360 completely happened in this country. Fuck all, y'all. If the policies receive 463 00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:14.800 final approval, they will affect more than one million children enrolled in the States 464 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:19.119 public school system. Many of these students are expressing deep concerns about the model 465 00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:21.559 policies released Friday. As a matter of fact, you know what, what 466 00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:28.000 gidget shout it my kids that go to Madison High School. I love Madison 467 00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:30.800 High School and this is part of the reason that my ex hates Madison High 468 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:36.039 School. So Madison High School sent out a letter saying that they love all 469 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.960 of their LGBTQ plus students and they know that there's some worry and issues and 470 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:44.559 things going on right now with these laws, and that they're here for everyone. 471 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:46.400 Wow. Yeah, it's a great school. It's a great school. 472 00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:51.199 This is what a student said about the policies as a closeted student. I 473 00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.599 wouldn't be able to come home if my parents found out that I was queer. 474 00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:58.679 I am terrified that these draft regulations will take away one of the few 475 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:04.800 places I can just be myself. Yeah. Awful. The Youngcan administration counters 476 00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.159 that the new policies are part of his commitment to parental rights someone else's parents 477 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:14.400 and their rights about your child. Right, Oh my god. He also 478 00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.760 says, the asshole, it is not under a schools or the government's purview 479 00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:22.559 to impose a set of particular ideological beliefs on all students. What the fuck 480 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.519 are you doing when you're pressing heterosexuality. You're doing the same thing that you 481 00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:30.280 are accusing the queer community of doing. Shelley, That's normal. Sorry, 482 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:37.440 Gidget, thanks, that's right. So again, this is going to go 483 00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:42.480 to a vote and hopefully gets struck down. Democrat Delegate Danica Roem she says, 484 00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:46.320 you can't use executive action to overturn whatever this code is. The Virginia 485 00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:52.719 Human Rights Act ROM, Virginia's first openly transgender state lawmakers said in a tweet, 486 00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.400 if you want to break the law, then we'll see you in court. 487 00:35:54.800 --> 00:36:00.800 Nice. Yeah, let's go. Craig Kna, the University of Virginia 488 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:06.639 law professor, said the Young administration's new policies simply ignore Virginia Statute. It's 489 00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:10.000 like these people that have such a strong belief that the queers are out to 490 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:14.719 destroy everything, they think they can just Oh, I'm governor, let's make 491 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:16.840 a law. Fuck them, we're making a law. You can't just be 492 00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:21.239 governor and make a fucking law, dude. I guess he can. Well 493 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.800 he has, but hopefully get struck down because it goes against human rights. 494 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:31.000 Baby, sorry, Gidget. Think about how many laws in this country alone 495 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:37.400 have gone against human rights over the decades. It just what else is new? 496 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:42.079 I know, I think just because it's more focused now. Well, 497 00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:45.440 for the longest time I was part of this right wing bullshit and so none 498 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.800 of this this didn't phase me. I'm like, damn right, get those 499 00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:52.760 books out because I was brainwashed and fucked in the head. Now that I'm 500 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.320 on the other side of it and see the hurt and the pain and I 501 00:36:55.360 --> 00:37:00.679 am surrounded by the queer community, I get pissed. A piss I have 502 00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:06.639 children who might not be able to who walks upt for our mom be exposed 503 00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:14.920 in school to what is actually normal different genders, different identities, different races. 504 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.760 You know, group plans, protest of model policies. Thank you, 505 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:23.159 thank you, October sixth at Luther Jackson Middle School, and I bet there 506 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:27.000 will be tons of conservatives as well, so that'll be a fun fight. 507 00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:30.840 They say the revised guidelines will hurt students in a time where students are facing 508 00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:36.639 unparalleled mental health challenges. Thank you. Yeah, why are you fucking doing 509 00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:44.360 this when you hopefully know that LGBTQ plus youth are the top as far as 510 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:51.880 suicide ideation and attempting suicide and suicide in general. So when you say you're 511 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:55.920 trying to protect the family, fuck you. You're trying to protect certain families. 512 00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:01.119 Yeah. Do you think it's more important that your child never sees anything 513 00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:08.360 queer? Is that? Is Johnny more important than Susie who is considering taking 514 00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:14.880 their own life because of this? I fucking hit None of my none of 515 00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:22.320 my kids, None of my kids are more important than a child who will 516 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:25.719 take their own life because of what I'm teaching. I love my kids, 517 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:30.039 I adore my kids, but I do not want to teach them anything and 518 00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.840 have them act in any way that would cause another child to want to take 519 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.000 their own life, right period, end of a fucking story. Yeah, 520 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:40.440 thanks for coming to my ted, It's all I got baby. Oh no, 521 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:44.719 you did have that little thing about those personal libraries that people have. 522 00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.400 What are those called? Yeah? Yeah, I can't think of it. 523 00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:52.400 It's like the little library where people can be called little library, I don't 524 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.800 know. And it used to take a book and then do you drop off 525 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:58.719 a book or you just take books or whatever? Does that work in Vienna? 526 00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:02.239 And it's I'm sure it's other places to people can build like a mini 527 00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.519 libraries basically looks like a large mailbox. Typically they're everywhere. Okay, so 528 00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:10.519 it's not to know. I'm just not I just don't remember what they're called. 529 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:14.440 Yeah, yeah, I don't know. And I know that our good 530 00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:19.079 friend Diana who's been on the podcast has one in her front yard and she 531 00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:24.360 specifically wants and does put queer books in there, and same thing that I 532 00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:28.679 want to do. Anyway, my encouragement if people are like, well, 533 00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:30.679 what are we supposed to do that? Well, I mean this is this 534 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.960 is infuriating. What do we do A talk about it? Be if you're 535 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.800 in a house where you are allowed to put something out front, build a 536 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:42.159 library. You can look online and how to do it. You can find 537 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:45.440 the books. Likely once in a while someone will put a book of Mormon 538 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:47.360 in your library, and now that's happened before. You may burn that one 539 00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:52.559 and ban it. But let's keep those books out there. What if libraries 540 00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:58.320 get shut down, we as the community can keep those books out there available 541 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:02.000 to people who need them. It's called little Free library. There you go, 542 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.840 and you can go to a little Free Library dot org if you want 543 00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:07.719 to start your own. I love it. So you're going to start one? 544 00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:14.320 Yes, Gidget, Yes, Mary, that's just too funny. I'm 545 00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:22.920 Marry, I'm Gidget. Oh my gosh. Well I'm excited about you starting 546 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:27.239 that. That's really too Yeah. Diana is cool. It's all decorated with 547 00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:31.159 LGBTQ colors, Yeah, trans and gay flag, all that stuff. It's 548 00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:37.519 cool as it should be. Yeah. Well shit, everybody, we gotta 549 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.679 we gotta stop this bullshit. Yeah, fight back, people, fight the 550 00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:45.679 fuck back, help us out. Let's take another commercial break, and then 551 00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:50.760 we've got some patrons and supercast members. Maybe we just need to do their 552 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:54.719 last names according to book titles seems appropriate book titles that exist? Well, 553 00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.920 yeah, would you want to make them up? Well, I might have 554 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:01.199 to because I don't know a lot of books. I've read a lot when 555 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:05.280 I was young, and then I turned old and got hella busy. But 556 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.559 I am listening to audiobooks lately. Well that counts. That counts. All 557 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:10.760 right, great, all right, there are a lot of books out there. 558 00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.440 Yes, I think we got this, Yes, all right, We'll 559 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:21.800 be right back. Hey, pals, I want to talk to you once 560 00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:27.039 again about Modest Mixed Teas. So Chi tea is a personal fave of mine. 561 00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.440 I love it by itself or mixed with a little java for a dirty 562 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:37.400 chi. Either way, it starts with a chi fucking harder blend from Modest 563 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:42.400 Mixed Teas. It's so much more fragrant and tasty than grocery store chi. 564 00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.400 I mean, right away, you're hit with all the spices, cinnamon, 565 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:50.559 ginger, carnameo, fennel. It's so good I can't even describe it to 566 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.920 properly. 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Number one is one of my favorite people, 576 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:47.440 and I'm just gonna say his full name, oh shit, and then 577 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:52.920 give him a new name. Richard rawlins. He is so fun. Yeah, 578 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.639 we've run him to him numerous times. He always dresses up at some 579 00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:00.559 as something hilarious. When we were in Utah, he dressed as Joseph Smith. 580 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:08.880 But as interpreted via south Park South Parks Interpretation nominal h Richard rawlins. 581 00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:12.880 We need we need a word that starts with our. You mean a book? 582 00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.599 Yes, all right? Is it cheating to look up book titles? 583 00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:19.639 No? Ahead, just fifty famous book titles from literature. Go, um, 584 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:22.639 here's one called Rosemary and Rue. Have you ever heard of that? 585 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:28.000 I have not, but Richard Rosemary is a great name, is it? 586 00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:34.440 And Rosemary also is delicious on pork. Yeah, I'm kind of into sage 587 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.079 right now. We did buy some stage at the farmer's market, and we 588 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.280 bought some papas roots. We did. I'm just saw on that out there. 589 00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.199 Pause and talk about it. Sure, talk about some papas. Next 590 00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:47.440 up, Christie. N Oh, well, I've got one here called No 591 00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.360 Wind of Blame. I've never heard of this book. Well that would make 592 00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.599 her name Christie. No. Oh you don't like that, I mean Christie, 593 00:43:55.840 --> 00:44:01.719 No Christie, No Wind of Blame. Okay, take that and do 594 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.239 what you want for it. Christie, thanks for your patronage. By the 595 00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:07.440 way, Sorry about the ship name. Oh how about Christie? No Country 596 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.840 for Old Men? Oh that's a good better one. Yeah, it's a 597 00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.719 good book as well. I just I saw the movie. Okay, next 598 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:19.840 and get a book. Oh I want one. Oh, you got one 599 00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:22.599 as good as it gets. Is that a book or just a movie? 600 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.960 I don't know, but I like it. Okay, fine, you do 601 00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.559 one. That's a great movie. By the way, Mike an it starts 602 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:36.119 with A. I mean as is not really a word. How about Anne 603 00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:42.800 of green Gables gonna be the green game green Gables? And I apologize profusely 604 00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:46.360 that Mary gave you that name, and of green Gables, thanks for your 605 00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:52.320 patronage. Please don't cancel just because that's your name. The next one, 606 00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:58.039 the name that this person chose to put was Emily with two s two s's 607 00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:04.159 Nope, just ses could be a typo? Oh? Could she wants? 608 00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:07.599 Is the last name? Emily with two s? Ees? What letter am 609 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.239 I using? I'm not sure what's happening. Let's go with E because it's 610 00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:16.719 ees. Okay, because he's an easy one. Nope? Why am I 611 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:21.719 having trouble thinking of book titles right now? I don't know? Oh I 612 00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:27.000 got one, okay, go East of Eden John Steinbeck. Okay, the 613 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:30.639 author of that one. I like it. We could have also done Eclipse. 614 00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:34.360 Oh right, but in the New Moon or whatever Twilight series? The 615 00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.719 Twilight series? Has that been banned? Probably no, because it was written 616 00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.280 by a Mormon. Oh that's true, and it is all heterosexual. It 617 00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:44.840 is, and they don't actually have sex till they're married. Oh, thank 618 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:46.199 you Mormons. For showing that shit in there. I say, we banned 619 00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:51.480 that fucking book. Emily with two eclipses. Two eclipses, well, that 620 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:53.599 was the name of the book, so it's not East of Eden that had 621 00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:57.480 two ease in it. Naturally, Emily with two East of Eden that is 622 00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.360 better. It's two s's or two ease. I'm so just fly, just 623 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:05.840 go on, Thank you, Emily, Thanks Emily. Next up, Audrey 624 00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.760 b b Huh, Okay, I have to go back to a kid's book 625 00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:15.000 that I liked. Okay, Berenstein Bears, I love that one. Double 626 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:20.519 b. Yeah, Audrey Berenstein Bears, Thank you so much for your patronage. 627 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:22.360 Everybody, thank you? Serious? Is that all? Five? That's 628 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.599 five? Now you got some squad cast, right or super cast whatever you 629 00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:32.719 want to call you pick a name. We're giving people new names right now. 630 00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:38.199 So see you're read naming super cast squadcast. Squadcast is actually a way 631 00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:43.000 to record remote interviews. We don't use it currently. Oh so I can't 632 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.320 just take that name and use it because it's already a thing. Okay, 633 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:51.840 okay, So the first up for super Cast members Scott w and then the 634 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:53.519 book that comes to mind. I want to do it. You have been 635 00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:58.280 waiting for a w You have Where the Red Fern Grows. Oh, okay, 636 00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:00.639 that's a good one. I was gonna say when to the Willows? 637 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:02.320 But I like yours. Thank you, Scott, Where the Red Fern Grows? 638 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.679 Thank you? All right? Well, do you have an S for 639 00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.840 Angela s? I have one? Okay? Go. Ernest Hemingway wrote, 640 00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:15.800 the Sun also rises. I wasn't counting the yeah, like you wouldn't let 641 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:22.119 me count the ass. The sun also rises. I like it. Have 642 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:23.280 we read any of these books? Of all the books she named, I 643 00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:28.440 read Berenstein Bears and We're The Red Fern Grows. That's it. Did you 644 00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:31.039 read any of them? I didn't read. I was going to say I 645 00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:34.599 read East of Eden, but I didn't. But there was a movie starring 646 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.239 Jane Seymour back in the day that I watched about them. That book. 647 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:39.880 Yeah, I think I was that book. But in movie for got you 648 00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:43.880 you know how it happens. Yeah, people take books and they turn them 649 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.039 into movies. Right. Oh. Speaking of shout out to our friend Katie 650 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:51.960 Mack, she recommended I listened to the book where the Crawdad's Seeing on an 651 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.639 audio book and I did, and I really enjoyed it. And then the 652 00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:59.000 movie just came out on Amazon Prime and Mary and I watched it and I 653 00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.599 fucking loved it because I knew the background and like the details of it all. 654 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:07.079 Yeah, thanks Katie Mack. Totally loved it. M M. The 655 00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.199 next name is Heather E. It's another E, isn't it it is? 656 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:17.119 How about Eat Pray Love? Did anyone ever see that? Yeah? See 657 00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:20.920 it or read it. I'm gonna go with read it, Eat Pray Love. 658 00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:22.280 That's a great one. Yeah, you've read it, or you watched 659 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:28.079 it, or you just heard it's great. Um, I think see we're 660 00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:31.719 going with whoever said it was great? That's your new last name? All 661 00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:38.400 right? And the last Supercast member today Emily are An. There are Yeah, 662 00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:42.199 here's one I haven't read. It's supposed to be um one of the 663 00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:47.760 top fifty books. It's called Remembrance of Things Past, although I don't get 664 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:52.280 too hung up on remembering things past because I want to I like to live 665 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.159 in the moment. I can't remember jack shit, so it's it's not. 666 00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:58.760 Yeah. So if there's one called a Anxious about the Future, that would 667 00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.880 be book. Yeah, I think you should write that lets people can relate. 668 00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:05.360 I mean, let me tell you everything I'm worried about that's gonna go 669 00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.320 down today. Yep, that could be a great best seller. I'm sure 670 00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.320 I can go on this list. Next year we'll be reading this list and 671 00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:13.960 it'll say fifty one of the best books ever sold. Well, yeah, 672 00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:20.000 it's for people who are tired of just maintaining sort of a level content life 673 00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.079 of no drama. Like people get sick of that. Sometimes someone to write 674 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:27.920 a book on how to blow your anxiety out of the water, stay amped 675 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:31.000 up all the time. Yes, it sounds like a best seller. Okay, 676 00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:35.679 Well that is going to do it for Patreon and supercast today. If 677 00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:39.280 you would like to give us support, please visit Latter day lesbian dot org 678 00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:43.719 slash support. Yes, we do appreciate it things, we really do, 679 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.639 and we're trying to crank out more Scandal Sessions episode. We really are. 680 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:50.079 But at five dollars and above level yes, on either platform. We have 681 00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:52.000 quite a few out now, so if you haven't joined yet, it's not 682 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:53.400 like you're going to join and sit around and wait. Like there's quite a 683 00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:59.320 few out there are that we're trying to get more out Yeah, it's just 684 00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.079 been kind of an summer and it continues to be kind of a nutty fall. 685 00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:05.239 But that is gonna come down eventually. I'm moving in a week, 686 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:09.639 you are, and then I'm actually moving to a larger space in my apartment 687 00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:15.039 building as well, so we will have a recording student, actual studio. 688 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:17.679 We're doing a goofy thing right now. Yeah, and in my house, 689 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:22.199 I'm pretty sure there will be room for a small recording studio. Look at 690 00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:27.280 that, we can just record everywhere. There you go like it? All 691 00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.679 right, Well that's gonna do it for today's episode. Thanks everybody listening. 692 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:36.280 Thank you Dan from Extension Audio. Thanks for leaving it in. Dan, 693 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.440 appreciate it. Sorry, this one's a little goofy. We're gonna get back 694 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:43.880 to normal as soon as I figure out my garage band problem. I've got 695 00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:45.880 a big garage band problem right now. Not sure what's going on, don't 696 00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.480 know. And you know what, Sty're clear of those cults because they are 697 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:52.239 no joke, no joke at all. Tuculater